January 26, 2023 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to Bills GM Brandon Beane taking a shot at the Bengals working with stars on their rookie contracts, but the Bills made their own bed with Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs. Senior NFL Reporter for MMQB.com, Albert Breer gives an update on Sean Payton, the Broncos coaching search and Burrow’s potential contract. Plus, an update on Live Bet Jesus.
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this is just a hotly contested matchup at the Australian
Open uh live bet Jesus called a shot. I mean
it feels good at this point, Brady, I know you've
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gotta be proud of him. Minus twelve hundred should feel
good when you get that bet, right, I mean you
better feel good if youren rist twelve hundred bucks and
one hundred but if you're gonna win, you know, a
hundred bucks, a hundred bucks. What it reminds me of?
Who was the jack a that bet one point four
million and that Jags wild card frown game versus the Chargers.
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Oh yeah, oh yeah? And he lost he live bet
the Chargers. It was like it was like one point
four million to win, like ten grand? What a loser?
All right? You guys have been around people with a
lot more money than I have. Do you buy that
story that's somebody dropped one point four million dollars? You
come on, man like that that is reckless, beyond reckless? Well,
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what would have what would he have? One? I think
it was like eleven thousand or something like that. I
think that was the return like eleven thousand or twelve thousand,
something like that. Here's here's how you have to view
something like that. For someone who's really rich, that's like
an eight percent return. Okay, would you take eight percent
return on your money in this uh economic environment? Sure,
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because you're gonna have a hard time sometimes finding this
somewhere else. Here's where you'd say you'd never take it
that sort of risk. Like if if there's the potential
chance that you're not going to earn that eight percent,
you're gonna lose one point four million. You have to
be so flushed with cash that you're actually willing to
be able to lose that and not feel any issues
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after losing one point four million. So I'm gonna say
that happened, and that person is for Aquillcy rich and
they just they literally looked at it like, oh, this
is a shoe in it's not gonna get any more valued.
Then at least can take my profit, my eleven grand,
my eight percent moved forward. That's ridiculous. That might be
the that I mean, this isn't towards you cute. I
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mean just that explanation is some dumb ass like you
to understand how the dumbest of dumb ass if that's
if I'm a bet a million dollars, I'm I'm I'm
gonna come away with ten thousand, eleven thousand, that's got
to be the How did that person become a million?
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Was guaranteed though if you thought it was guarantee, But
it's not guaranteed. No guarantee, nothing is, nothing is. But
there's also people who would say, if you earn eight
percent in the betting world, you are crushing it. You're
crushing it. Like, if you're making eight percent of your
money in the betting world, that's really really good. It's
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hard to do so for professional betters out there, if
you talk to them, their goal, like during the course
of an entire season is to go if they can
go on their picks much yeah, like, but that is
that's what they consider successful. So anything beyond that is outrageous.
I mean, this guy, I I don't know what his
other betting interests are um and I don't know how
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many times he bets, but get that next. Anybody out
there listening to us, if you want to make a
bet like that, just give me, give me the bet,
give me the money you're gonna spend on that there too,
that they're gonna go away anyway. There are two people
I would not trust, the two people in the NFL.
I would not trust that kind of money with in
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a live situation with the lead Brandon Staley and Matt Ryan.
I'm not putting my money on either side of that
because we've seen what happens. Brandon Staley does weird stuff
from time to time. And then also Matt Ryan's just
a part of some of the worst losses as evident
from the Vikings Colts game earlier this year in which
or we're up what thirty three to nothing or thirty
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three three or some crap like that, and they melted
down and put Jeff Saturday in there. Do you have
Matt Ryan's got a history of that, you know, and
it's all his fault. It's never the defense. It's all
his fault when it comes from outside of the outside
of the Atlanta, New England's Super Bowl? Was there another
one this year that was he was involved with, Yeah,
the Vikings cult, which LaVar's. That was when LaVar jumped
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off the Jeff Saturday wagon, he said, I'm out. He
see there's no reason for Jeff Saturday to become in
a room head coach. I don't know this history, right,
I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. You
I have no idea, man, all right, So revisionists of
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what what was there? Let's nothing. So Brandon Bean of
the Buffalo Bills, the general manager for the Buffalo Bills,
he was talking with the media yesterday and they were
asking him just about the situation in Cincinnati as opposed
to Buffalo. And you know, I don't know if anybody saw,
but Brandon Bean's a general manager of a team that
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got their asses handed to him at home last weekend
by the Cincinnati Bengals. And so they asked him about
their situation moving forward, the salary cap, etcetera, etcetera. And
here was the Bill's GM talking about those Cincinnati Bengals.
They right now are on the advantage of a rookie
quarterback contract, and they had some lean years without getting
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too much into their build. And I don't want to
I don't want to suck bad enough to have to
get Jamaar Chase. Like he's a heck of a talent.
I'd love to have him, but you gotta you gotta
go through some lean years to do that, and you
know they were able to get borrow one. And I
don't remember where Chase was drafted. Those pretty high like,
and those guys are on their rookie deals. We're paying
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Stefon Diggs pretty hefty number. We're paying Josh Allen a
pretty hefty number. So there is the constraints of the cap.
So there's there that was like kind of like a
backhanded compliment, like super backhanded, right, it's true, how's he
gonna ask? Man, I feel like we ain't gonna suck
like them to be able to be good in the
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future as an excuse him make an excuse. That's an excuse.
It's a slight, you know, it's it sounds a little salty.
You're a little salty. We're paying this hefty number while
they're on rookie contracts and it's only because we don't
suck as bad as they did. But that's your fault.
You didn't. You didn't do you take advantage may chance,
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maybe you needed to suck good enough to be helped
to catch march ages Joe burrow By Florences and and
and you Jackson and a few other maybe the people's accounts.
I mean some people try to do that. I mean, um, alright,
moving on, it was an easy lay up, but it
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was easy. The bills were never as bad as the
Bangles were during that stretch because josh Allen was what
picked seven and I think did they move up for
him or maybe that was Joshua who cares, But they
were never They were never that bad like Cincinnati was
during that stretch. But they didn't have to go out
and pay trade what they did for Stefan Diggs and
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then pay them all that money. That was their choice.
And now they've paid josh Allen. Isn't this kind of
on Buffalo that they didn't take advantage of the opportunities
they had to get to a super Bowl while josh
Allen was still on his rookie deal. And sometimes you're
not gonna be lucky enough to or it's gonna work
out that way. Right. Um. Everyone wants to go back
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to the overtime versus Kansas City and how those rules
worked out. Uh, Look, they if they played some defense
too down the stretch there, I don't think they'd pa
they'd be complaining about this. The other thing is, I
think when you talk about you know, how you allocate
your cap. Okay, so you've got a quarterback at a
wide receiver, You're you're spending a bunch of money on
Go hit with the rest of your picks. Go go
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hit with all the other draft picks. Then on defense
and up front, you know, on the offensive line and
other spots like That's the reality of it is, as
much as you want to make it about, oh, look
who we're paying, there's a lot of teams here in
that position. I mean, you make that same excuse about
the Kansas City Chiefs. Don't Don't they have a quarterback
right now that's gonna win the m v P that's
still playing, that's not on his rookie contract. Don't they
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have a tight end that's not on his rookie contract.
I mean, you start kind of combing through how the
Chiefs orchestrate and handle their roster. They seem to be
able to make it work. I mean, I just I
feel like, you know, as much as there's some truth
to it, there's also an element of they didn't achieve
what they need to achieve. They're the Super Bowl favorites,
they didn't get there this year. That's okay, But I
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think anyone who watched them this year, and I kept
saying this phrase all year long, in order for them
to win games, Josh Allen had to play like Superman
every single week. It was like a running back bike
a Mintian that it was like Josh Allen probably leading
the way Josh Allen leaving rush yards this past week too. Probably, Yeah,
I mean it's it's like he literally had to play
that way every single week. And Stefan Diggs is by
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far and away their number one. He's one of the
best receivers in the NFL. You take him away, what
else do they have? Not as much. I just it's
not that complicated with that team. You know, defensively, the
Vontnell injury, that one hurt them, I think as much
as anything. Their secondary is banged up this year. There's
a lot, there's a lot of things you can point
to for the lack of success. The bottom line as though, um,
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they didn't achieve what they needed to and that's why
he's gotta, you know, answer that question and have to
deal with the reporters who are who are now feeling
that way or asking those questions about it. By the way,
Josh Allen narrowly beat out Devin Singletary for the rushing championship.
In that game against the Bengals, he had twenty six
yards Devon Singletary at twenty four. So how many carries
eight for Josh Allen, six for Devon Singletary, nineteen carry
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sixty three yards? You know, I feel like that probably
could have been addressed in the draft. You know, it wasn't.
Wasn't James could James Cook. I just haven't been using him. Yeah,
the listen, it's all on the Bengals and their rookie
salary cap. That's how it goes. You know the rules well,
and I think if you're the Bengals, you know you've
seen Joe Burrow. Now what is this year three for him? Yes?
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Yea yeah, I mean so you you now pick up
a fifth year option. But that's irrelevant. I would be
trying to get him to it to an extension right now.
I'd be doing everything I could to get him outside
that a big extension, right but that price is going
to go up about a year. Yeah, Like I don't
want anyone else to be able to do a deal
and have to surpass that. So I would do that
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deal as soon as I could, as soon as the
season ends. Let me ask you this, because of everything
that's going on with Lamar Jackson. If you're Joe Burrow,
do you wait even if Cincinnati comes in, unless they
offer you something that it's just can't say no contract?
Do you wait until you see what happens with Lamar Jackson? Well,
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the team may feel like they want to wait and see, right,
because they don't want to set the precedent of, you know,
being a team that signs their quarterback to a deal
and then Lamar is able to surpass them and signs
a better deal. Or you know, again, no one's gonna
touch to the Shawn Watson contract. I'd be shocked if
they did. Burrow might be the one that makes a
lot of sense for that though, Like, if you're going
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to like he's the one that I feel like the
way he's playing, the way he's been since he's come
into the league, and everything they've got tied up in him,
he'd be a guy that I would I would look
at giving that sort of deal to. But I just
I don't. I don't think if you're the Bengals, though,
you want to wait and you want to you know,
risk potentially like having to deal with that down the road.
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I think you you pay, and they're gonna have to restructure.
I shouldn't say restructure. They're gonna have to change the
way they've paid out most contracts because they don't pay
out a lot of cash and they're gonna have to
unless they hamstrung, you know, hamstring their themselves for the
force sable future because of how much um they have
to put into a salary. Isn't this part of the
reason why they got a naming rights deal for the stadium,
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so they can bring in more cash, more cash flow.
I mean they they'll continue to keep exercising ways of
joint stuff. I mean, you got a set of just
a sports book, just sp well, that's why in Ohio
you can gamble now in the state of Ohio. It
sort of January one this year. If I was them,
I would be searching so hard for a big time
sponsorship to bring in even more cash flow. And that's
essentially going to go right in Joe Burrow's pocket this offseason.
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It should and then Jamar Chase the following year. Man,
that's awesome. They just theyre bringing a sports book, just
build a sports book. So these guys can get paid.
I mean, but but then Brandon Bean's gonna say, well,
they have an advantage because we can't do that here
in Buffalo, you know, Like that's the problem though. It's
just not fair for you gamble in New York yet,
I don't know. I'm not sure you can. Can you
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gamble in New York for sure? Yeah? I mean when
we do our draft kings read it says that you
can hit hope and why or text it. Yeah, if
you got a problem, Yeah, if you have a problem
gambling in New York, right, I think I think LaVar
is like connecting the dots, saying if you have a problem,
obviously you're able to gamble. So there he's Yeah, I
think Jos having a hard time connect those dots. No, No,
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I connected those dots. I'm a dot connector. It's what
I do. Hey, do you have an update on the
Australian Open by the way? You tre? Yeah? So the
TV was changed to um we need an update on
the weather locally here in l A. Okay, you know
what step of v uh ah man. You know, LaVar
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LaVar witdis and studio always has to have the weather
on in studio, just wants to know what's going on
the climate, literally the climate of the country. You're going
to put that on me, but I'm not even in
the studio. I'm just saying so like in your honor,
like they wanted to make sure that you're gonna put
that on me, and I'm not even in the studio
with you. Okay, So here's you just told on yourself.
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I didn't. I didn't tell it anything. I'm focused. Yes,
I'm a dot connector and I'm a dot connector. All right,
they're not focused on the show. So here's the of
the world this. So they know Arena Sabolenka, who was
the underdog that Live Bet Jesus picked to ben h
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seven six the first set and a five one lead
in the second set. So it looks like Live Jesus
Pick is well on, well on its way to hitting
here and Lee, if you could, at what point in
the match did Live bet you just to make that
bet was a four one? Uh he Sablanca had just
won the first set in the match. That was that
was the other question. So no, no, because that's not
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she was already Did we have another visit to Margut
reatavill yesterday. No, unfortunately. Hey, by the way, did you
find out if they had one in Arizonaly for Super Bowl? Oh?
I'm looking that up. Yeah, we gotta we gotta hit
up the Phoenix Margarita. Is there one of Phoenix? Oh?
Come on that that would be one of the desert.
That doesn't even make sense. I mean, there's one of
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Basis in the desert. Come on, yeah, come on, let's
look this up. But like Margarita, Bill is more about
like the boat life, you know, Yeah, you have a
boda desert. Yeah. Plus in Arizona you gotta go to
like but you will be thirsty in the desert though,
well he's always thirsty. I'm thirsty. It's hot as hell
out here. Let's go to Marge the PhoX. We're going
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oh yeah, yeah, there's one in Phoenix. Leads so excited
right now. Oh man, it's two pros and a cup
of Joe. Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas
open at eight am. Alright, so, uh well, because yeah,
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because who doesn't want Margarite. We're really going to do this.
Coming up next, we do have an update on one
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But right now we turn it over to the man himself.
Now we mentioned this, could you picture the great Albert Brier,
senior NFL reporter at the mm QB. Get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier hanging out by a cigarette machine
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back in Columbus, Ohio, listening to Allison Chains while people
can't figure out how to get a pack of lung
darts out of there. He just hits the side of
it and down they fall. So, Albert, is there any
truth to that story about you back in the day
in Columbus? I mean, I want to do a few
places that had cigarette machines, so I don't know that
I was hanging out by them. I mean, Brady, you
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probably know all the places I used to go to
because most of them are closed now. But like I
i'd hang out like two's whoa? Well, whoa? Did he
pass out? Did you pass out? Albert? Are you okay?
Was that a tectic test? Are you there? Albert? By
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the way, he said he I got a twos. Who
hasn't hung out with a couple of twos from time
to time? You know that happens, It happens. I hope
Albert is okay. That might have been the greatest calling
he's ever had. I just hope I need to Albert's
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voice to be kidding me. All right, Albert, are you there?
I found? So I found Okay. Now, I was like,
I was like going through all the old Columbus bars,
which I'm sure right, you have to know the names
of the places I went to, right like because those
are all closed now. But you said they're all closed
now though, But maybe can you name a few, well,
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two zigs which became four kegs, which became the old
patio outer in still there, so like the spot bar,
which is where like our quarterback out a duy coming
out of there, um, when I was a senior. So
those are like be a few of the places you
I'm sure you knew some of those places, right, Yeah,
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I've heard of some of those. I didn't really frequent, um,
you know, going down on you know, High State's campus month,
so I mean you know I mean for that, No, No,
I was. I was dating a girl who's in mind
of Ohio, so I would usually get to Oxford and
go there and being uptown on all that, well, that
is that is higher brow. So you are too hygebrow.
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Oh wow, So now now you're throwing a bunch of
mind Ohio folks that under the bus. Woweable. Now, Albert,
let me ask you a question. What's more likely to
happen you going back to some of those bars in
Columbus or Sean Payton actually coaching somebody next year? Oh my, God. Well,
like I said, I can't go back to those bars
because they don't exist. But I think it was an
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increasing chance that Sean Payton's going back to Fox. I mean,
I I don't know. I think there was sort of
this feeling that, you know, the perfect job was going
to land in his lap. And I'm not sure any
of these are ones that he wants to chase. Um
And I honestly don't know how hard these like different
places are recruiting him either. Like, I don't know it's
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been a land rush for him either. So it's just
it sort of feels like the right fit might not
be there this time around. I don't know if he
wants to marry himself to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson. Um.
You know, I think in Carolina, in Houston, that's a
little bit more of a build type of situation. And
I don't know if the geography is right there for him.
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I think he's sort of like to stay west, so UM,
I'm not sure that any of these like really match
up for him. I think he's comfortable, you know, in
his job at Foxton. He's comfortable living out in Manhattan Beach,
and Um, I think he's comfortable to wait for another year.
I mean, I think the other thing that people like
ignore a little bit is he is a little older now,
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so you know, this very well could be his last shot,
you know, as an NFL coach, and so um, I
think he was always going to be selective. I just
think the feeling probably from him was that the right
job was gonna come along. And I'm just not sure
that the right job is out there for him right now.
So I think that there's a pretty good chance he
winds up back on TV now year. Wow. I mean,
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and is that more just an indication on his thoughts?
I look at the Broncos I feel like that's probably
the one a lot of people are trying to connect
him to a lot of people thought maybe he'd take.
Is that an indictment on Russell Wilson or the set
up there in Denver? I mean, what would you what
would you say about that opportunity? Yeah, I mean I
I think the idea of working for the Waltons probably
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appeals to him, you know. And I and look like
I think the asking price is another piece of this too,
Like I don't know, if I go all these places
are willing to go to million dollars to go and
get him now Denver. I think if Denver felt really
strongly about it, they would, you know, um, And I
think the idea of working for the Waltons appeals to him.
It's just I think so much of this for a
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coach like Sean Payton is about how you're gonna structure
the team and how you're gonna set it up. If
he goes to Denver, will they let him hire his
own general manager? If he goes to Denver, what does
he do about the quarterback? I just think like some
of the things structurally about the way he's set it
up or an issue. And yeah, I mean I think
to some degree, Brighty it isn't and on on where
Russell Wilson is in his career and whether or not,
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like there's really juice left there, you know, because if
you're gonna pay a guy almost fifty million dollars a
year and that guy is gonna be on your salary
cap at fifty million dollars a year for the foreseeable future,
well you know, then he's gonna have to make up
for other holes or deficiencies on your team. Like that's
just the way it works, Like, that's the environment that
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Aaron Rodgers lives in. It's the environment Pat Mahomes lives in,
you know. And can Russell Wilson be that guy? Who?
Can he still be that guy who lifts up everything
around him? I don't know that there's a real belief
out there that he is that guy anymore? M wow?
So who is who would be? Are are you hearing
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the best candidate or or the guy that Denver Broncos
or Arizona Cardinals are are seeking because I'd seem to
feel like Arizona would have been super attractive for Sean
Payton before they got into GM. I think you bring
in a GM now that makes it difficult because now
between Kyler Murray and the new GM, if there's no
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no relationship, you know what what happens there? LeVar, I
agree with you. Like the fact that Arizona hired Monty
Austin for it is their GM tells me they're not
locked in on Sean Payton, you know, because and they're
gonna talk to him today. And I just think like
when you if you were really like we're going to
lock stock and barrel after Sean Payton and We're gonna
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pay him whatever he wants. Aren't you leaving your GM
spot open until you talk to him? You know what
I mean? Like, aren't you gonna at least give yourself
the opportunity to offer him the chance to pick his
own GM. You know, That's why I think their focus
is sort of shifted elsewhere. And so you know, they
had Dan Coin in for a second interview. Um, they
like one of their internal candidates, Vans Joseph Um. And
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then I think Brian Flores is a very strong candidate there. Um.
He came up and scouting with their new GM Monty
Austin fort Um. He interviewed really well there five years
ago in two thousand and eighteen. It's sort of what
set him up to get the Miami job. You know,
he interviewed well there. Michael Bidwell told the rest of
the owners like how impressive flooras was. The four interviews
got the Miami job the next year. So I think
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that i'd be looking at those three um in Arizona,
you know. And then Denver, I think Dan Quinn is
still a very strong candidate there. He's got the relationship
with George Peyton. You know. I also think David Shaw,
the former Stanford coach, is appealing to them now, like,
can you put together in NFL staff? Can he convince
the owners there that he could win in the NFL
leve I think that those are those are the questions
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they're asking themselves right now. But I think the idea
of kind of going outside the box and hiring David
Shaw is a very very serious consideration with the owners.
They're especially considering all the ties to Stanford that exists
in that building right now. Albert we are joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert,
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we were talking about just the situation Brandon Bean was
sort of throwing a shot at Cincinnati and they've got
guys on a rookie deal, etcetera, etcetera. What what does
a contract look like for Joe Burrow at this point
in time? And do you think it happens this offseason?
I mean, if I'm the Bengals, I go to Joe
Burrows agent, I say, please, just don't make it hurt
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too much. I mean, he can ask, he can ask
for whatever he wants to guys. You know what I mean,
Like I he's changed the base of that franchise. I
I I think, Um, it's gonna take some creativity on
this on both sides to get something done. Um, that's
gonna set them up to continue to compete like the
same way that the Chiefs and and and my homes
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we were. We're very creative like and I don't think
that that Burrows gonna take that sort of structure, But
I think they're gonna have to be creative to work
around some things. But I mean, I think you're talking
based on five million dollars, probably fifty five. Um, you
know when you go from there, and it's gonna be
interesting because there are a few of these that have
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a chance to get done over the next couple of months,
justin Herbert's another one, and then obviously Lamar Jackson's out there,
and so it's gonna be interesting to see if there's
a little bit of a game of chicken out there
too with you know, who goes first here, and so
you know, I think all three of those could kind
of play into one another. You know, if you're Herbert
and your borrow, maybe you want to wait until you
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know the the free agent market opens in the middle
of March to see what happens with Lamar, so you
can sort of set your expectations accordingly. UM, but make
no mistake about it, like it's gonna be very, very
expensive to sign Joe Burrow long term. UM. I think
there's gonna be some creativity to whatever deal they get done.
And I do think the Bengals are fully big guarantee
(27:42):
or fully or fully prepared to pay what it's gonna
take to get Joe Burrow. With the one caveat being,
I do think that because of the ESCOR rules, it's
gonna be a little bit more difficult for them than
other teams to fully guarantee a contract, right, They're gonna
have all that cat somewhere right astro to make sure
they can pay it. That's always one of the interesting
(28:04):
nuances that it show sets a little bit of light
on how how wealthy some of these owners are. UM.
I want to ask you about the hiring process with
the Colts. I know Dan Quinn still hasts to interview
Jeff Saturday's going back for a second. UM. I mean
this has been a team that some some candidates have
just turned down flat out, not just wanted to go
interview at all. Where are they at? What are your
(28:25):
thoughts on where this is headed? They've been all over
the place, Brady, I Um, I know there are at
least a few people who've been involved in this thing
who think that Jim Urcy really wants to hire Jeff
Saturday and so long as you have Saturday can put
together a confidence staff, he's gonna do it. And you
know even that, like I've heard that there are other
(28:47):
people in that building, the thing is a bad idea
to do it, to go forward with it based on
how the year ended, and are trying to get as
many people in front of um Jim mur saying whether
you know his daughter to Carly, it's Chris Ballet, the GM.
You know, the director of team development, Brian Deckers involved.
Um that one of the reasons they're putting so many
(29:08):
people in front of Jim Ercy is because they're trying
to convince him that it is not a good idea
to go forward with Jeff Saturday as the head coach.
We'll see what happens, you know, I think with he
Morris is a really strong candidate there. Um, he'll go
back for a second interview on Friday. Is over is
another one who's done well in the process, Dan Quinn,
Like you said, UM, a strong candidate there. But I
(29:28):
think one of the reasons why they've cast such a
wide net is, you know again, A because I think
the other people in the room are trying to get
as many people as they can in front of Jim Rcy,
you know, and b if it does wind up being
Jeff Saturday, they can at least say we looked through
absolutely everything before we went and did this. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter
(29:51):
at the mm QB always good stuff. Albert, thanks so much.
We'll do it again next week. I feel like I broke.
I feel like I had a good streak of no
phone troubles and then there were earlier today. What the
hell was the thought like one of those staticky things. No,
it was like it was like you were hitting a button,
(30:11):
like you it sounded like passed out on your face.
Your face was laying on the phone. Yeah, yeah, like
like somebody got up on something effect. Yeah. We didn't
like it. We were scared, you know. I was to
come up with some pretty cool theories. How that happened.
I guess right, yeah, John Wick showed up to away
that out there, Albert. Uh by the way, Albert ten seconds.
(30:36):
So we gotta get your down your picks on the
game this weekend. I think the I think the Bengals
in the Niners when um, I think the Bengals are
gonna win the Super Bowl, like I just I mean,
I mean, Brady knows this for me. Like I've been
in Joe Burrow Believer for a while, I actually still
think there are a lot of people who don't realize
(30:58):
just how good the kid is over the arrows. I know.
It's not even that man, like you know what it is.
It's like I think he's like I think I think
he's Tom Brady. I think I think it's exactly though
he's more Montana than he is Brady. Yeah, but here's
what I mean by that, Brady, Like, I I think
(31:19):
like the same mistake that people made with Tom Brady
fifteen years ago, where people would say, and this is
totally forgotten now, but people looked at him and said
that's a game manager. Because he wasn't physically overwhelming. They
look at him and say, like, that's a game manager.
Like you just you have to be good around now.
He was number one overall. What are you talking about?
(31:40):
It's the same narrative though Brady, isn't it Like, No,
I don't know anyone who actually says Joe Burrows. I've
never heard anyone say that. From his time at l
s U to his time and sincin that, I have
not heard anyone say that. Well, I just think that
they don't look at him the same way that they
look at Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes because he's not
as freakish fist. That's sort of what I'm getting at.
(32:02):
And so I think that there's that like his strengths
are stuff that you can't see. That's where that's you
can see his time, you can see, but like the
way he the way he like gets guys open, the
way he controls everything out there. I just think that
there's so many strengths he has that you cannot see that.
I think that's where similar to Brady. I think Brady
(32:22):
a lot of Brady strengths early in his career and
people wound up seeing them over the years, But earlier
he does things you can't see out that when you're
watching them on TV and they manifested wide open receivers.
They manifest in Tyler Boyd. Yeah, I agree with um. Well,
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there it is the picture of Albert Brier, straight from
the man himself. But our all right, so we appreciate it.
We're up against it. But let's do it again next week.
And now we'll see if your picks come through this weekend.
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there's no dollar menu anymore. It's the value manu. Yea,
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this is just a hotly contested matchup at the Australian
Open uh live bet Jesus called a shot. I mean
it feels good at this point, Brady, I know you've
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gotta be proud of him. Minus twelve hundred should feel
good when you get that bet, right, I mean you
better feel good if youren rist twelve hundred bucks and
one hundred but if you're gonna win, you know, a
hundred bucks, a hundred bucks. What it reminds me of?
Who was the jack a that bet one point four
million and that Jags wild card frown game versus the Chargers.
(01:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah? And he lost he live bet
the Chargers. It was like it was like one point
four million to win, like ten grand? What a loser?
All right? You guys have been around people with a
lot more money than I have. Do you buy that
story that's somebody dropped one point four million dollars? You
come on, man like that that is reckless, beyond reckless? Well,
(02:08):
what would have what would he have? One? I think
it was like eleven thousand or something like that. I
think that was the return like eleven thousand or twelve thousand,
something like that. Here's here's how you have to view
something like that. For someone who's really rich, that's like
an eight percent return. Okay, would you take eight percent
return on your money in this uh economic environment? Sure,
(02:33):
because you're gonna have a hard time sometimes finding this
somewhere else. Here's where you'd say you'd never take it
that sort of risk. Like if if there's the potential
chance that you're not going to earn that eight percent,
you're gonna lose one point four million. You have to
be so flushed with cash that you're actually willing to
be able to lose that and not feel any issues
(02:55):
after losing one point four million. So I'm gonna say
that happened, and that person is for Aquillcy rich and
they just they literally looked at it like, oh, this
is a shoe in it's not gonna get any more valued.
Then at least can take my profit, my eleven grand,
my eight percent moved forward. That's ridiculous. That might be
the that I mean, this isn't towards you cute. I
(03:16):
mean just that explanation is some dumb ass like you
to understand how the dumbest of dumb ass if that's
if I'm a bet a million dollars, I'm I'm I'm
gonna come away with ten thousand, eleven thousand, that's got
to be the How did that person become a million?
(03:36):
Was guaranteed though if you thought it was guarantee, But
it's not guaranteed. No guarantee, nothing is, nothing is. But
there's also people who would say, if you earn eight
percent in the betting world, you are crushing it. You're
crushing it. Like, if you're making eight percent of your
money in the betting world, that's really really good. It's
(03:57):
hard to do so for professional betters out there, if
you talk to them, their goal, like during the course
of an entire season is to go if they can
go on their picks much yeah, like, but that is
that's what they consider successful. So anything beyond that is outrageous.
I mean, this guy, I I don't know what his
other betting interests are um and I don't know how
(04:20):
many times he bets, but get that next. Anybody out
there listening to us, if you want to make a
bet like that, just give me, give me the bet,
give me the money you're gonna spend on that there too,
that they're gonna go away anyway. There are two people
I would not trust, the two people in the NFL.
I would not trust that kind of money with in
(04:40):
a live situation with the lead Brandon Staley and Matt Ryan.
I'm not putting my money on either side of that
because we've seen what happens. Brandon Staley does weird stuff
from time to time. And then also Matt Ryan's just
a part of some of the worst losses as evident
from the Vikings Colts game earlier this year in which
or we're up what thirty three to nothing or thirty
(05:02):
three three or some crap like that, and they melted
down and put Jeff Saturday in there. Do you have
Matt Ryan's got a history of that, you know, and
it's all his fault. It's never the defense. It's all
his fault when it comes from outside of the outside
of the Atlanta, New England's Super Bowl? Was there another
one this year that was he was involved with, Yeah,
the Vikings cult, which LaVar's. That was when LaVar jumped
(05:26):
off the Jeff Saturday wagon, he said, I'm out. He
see there's no reason for Jeff Saturday to become in
a room head coach. I don't know this history, right,
I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. You
I have no idea, man, all right, So revisionists of
(05:47):
what what was there? Let's nothing. So Brandon Bean of
the Buffalo Bills, the general manager for the Buffalo Bills,
he was talking with the media yesterday and they were
asking him just about the situation in Cincinnati as opposed
to Buffalo. And you know, I don't know if anybody saw,
but Brandon Bean's a general manager of a team that
(06:07):
got their asses handed to him at home last weekend
by the Cincinnati Bengals. And so they asked him about
their situation moving forward, the salary cap, etcetera, etcetera. And
here was the Bill's GM talking about those Cincinnati Bengals.
They right now are on the advantage of a rookie
quarterback contract, and they had some lean years without getting
(06:28):
too much into their build. And I don't want to
I don't want to suck bad enough to have to
get Jamaar Chase. Like he's a heck of a talent.
I'd love to have him, but you gotta you gotta
go through some lean years to do that, and you
know they were able to get borrow one. And I
don't remember where Chase was drafted. Those pretty high like,
and those guys are on their rookie deals. We're paying
(06:50):
Stefon Diggs pretty hefty number. We're paying Josh Allen a
pretty hefty number. So there is the constraints of the cap.
So there's there that was like kind of like a
backhanded compliment, like super backhanded, right, it's true, how's he
gonna ask? Man, I feel like we ain't gonna suck
like them to be able to be good in the
(07:11):
future as an excuse him make an excuse. That's an excuse.
It's a slight, you know, it's it sounds a little salty.
You're a little salty. We're paying this hefty number while
they're on rookie contracts and it's only because we don't
suck as bad as they did. But that's your fault.
You didn't. You didn't do you take advantage may chance,
(07:33):
maybe you needed to suck good enough to be helped
to catch march ages Joe burrow By Florences and and
and you Jackson and a few other maybe the people's accounts.
I mean some people try to do that. I mean, um, alright,
moving on, it was an easy lay up, but it
(08:00):
was easy. The bills were never as bad as the
Bangles were during that stretch because josh Allen was what
picked seven and I think did they move up for
him or maybe that was Joshua who cares, But they
were never They were never that bad like Cincinnati was
during that stretch. But they didn't have to go out
and pay trade what they did for Stefan Diggs and
(08:22):
then pay them all that money. That was their choice.
And now they've paid josh Allen. Isn't this kind of
on Buffalo that they didn't take advantage of the opportunities
they had to get to a super Bowl while josh
Allen was still on his rookie deal. And sometimes you're
not gonna be lucky enough to or it's gonna work
out that way. Right. Um. Everyone wants to go back
(08:43):
to the overtime versus Kansas City and how those rules
worked out. Uh, Look, they if they played some defense
too down the stretch there, I don't think they'd pa
they'd be complaining about this. The other thing is, I
think when you talk about you know, how you allocate
your cap. Okay, so you've got a quarterback at a
wide receiver, You're you're spending a bunch of money on
Go hit with the rest of your picks. Go go
(09:05):
hit with all the other draft picks. Then on defense
and up front, you know, on the offensive line and
other spots like That's the reality of it is, as
much as you want to make it about, oh, look
who we're paying, there's a lot of teams here in
that position. I mean, you make that same excuse about
the Kansas City Chiefs. Don't Don't they have a quarterback
right now that's gonna win the m v P that's
still playing, that's not on his rookie contract. Don't they
(09:28):
have a tight end that's not on his rookie contract.
I mean, you start kind of combing through how the
Chiefs orchestrate and handle their roster. They seem to be
able to make it work. I mean, I just I
feel like, you know, as much as there's some truth
to it, there's also an element of they didn't achieve
what they need to achieve. They're the Super Bowl favorites,
they didn't get there this year. That's okay, But I
(09:49):
think anyone who watched them this year, and I kept
saying this phrase all year long, in order for them
to win games, Josh Allen had to play like Superman
every single week. It was like a running back bike
a Mintian that it was like Josh Allen probably leading
the way Josh Allen leaving rush yards this past week too. Probably, Yeah,
I mean it's it's like he literally had to play
that way every single week. And Stefan Diggs is by
(10:11):
far and away their number one. He's one of the
best receivers in the NFL. You take him away, what
else do they have? Not as much. I just it's
not that complicated with that team. You know, defensively, the
Vontnell injury, that one hurt them, I think as much
as anything. Their secondary is banged up this year. There's
a lot, there's a lot of things you can point
to for the lack of success. The bottom line as though, um,
(10:33):
they didn't achieve what they needed to and that's why
he's gotta, you know, answer that question and have to
deal with the reporters who are who are now feeling
that way or asking those questions about it. By the way,
Josh Allen narrowly beat out Devin Singletary for the rushing championship.
In that game against the Bengals, he had twenty six
yards Devon Singletary at twenty four. So how many carries
eight for Josh Allen, six for Devon Singletary, nineteen carry
(10:56):
sixty three yards? You know, I feel like that probably
could have been addressed in the draft. You know, it wasn't.
Wasn't James could James Cook. I just haven't been using him. Yeah,
the listen, it's all on the Bengals and their rookie
salary cap. That's how it goes. You know the rules well,
and I think if you're the Bengals, you know you've
seen Joe Burrow. Now what is this year three for him? Yes?
(11:18):
Yea yeah, I mean so you you now pick up
a fifth year option. But that's irrelevant. I would be
trying to get him to it to an extension right now.
I'd be doing everything I could to get him outside
that a big extension, right but that price is going
to go up about a year. Yeah, Like I don't
want anyone else to be able to do a deal
and have to surpass that. So I would do that
(11:39):
deal as soon as I could, as soon as the
season ends. Let me ask you this, because of everything
that's going on with Lamar Jackson. If you're Joe Burrow,
do you wait even if Cincinnati comes in, unless they
offer you something that it's just can't say no contract?
Do you wait until you see what happens with Lamar Jackson? Well,
(12:02):
the team may feel like they want to wait and see, right,
because they don't want to set the precedent of, you know,
being a team that signs their quarterback to a deal
and then Lamar is able to surpass them and signs
a better deal. Or you know, again, no one's gonna
touch to the Shawn Watson contract. I'd be shocked if
they did. Burrow might be the one that makes a
lot of sense for that though, Like, if you're going
(12:23):
to like he's the one that I feel like the
way he's playing, the way he's been since he's come
into the league, and everything they've got tied up in him,
he'd be a guy that I would I would look
at giving that sort of deal to. But I just
I don't. I don't think if you're the Bengals, though,
you want to wait and you want to you know,
risk potentially like having to deal with that down the road.
(12:45):
I think you you pay, and they're gonna have to restructure.
I shouldn't say restructure. They're gonna have to change the
way they've paid out most contracts because they don't pay
out a lot of cash and they're gonna have to
unless they hamstrung, you know, hamstring their themselves for the
force sable future because of how much um they have
to put into a salary. Isn't this part of the
reason why they got a naming rights deal for the stadium,
(13:07):
so they can bring in more cash, more cash flow.
I mean they they'll continue to keep exercising ways of
joint stuff. I mean, you got a set of just
a sports book, just sp well, that's why in Ohio
you can gamble now in the state of Ohio. It
sort of January one this year. If I was them,
I would be searching so hard for a big time
sponsorship to bring in even more cash flow. And that's
essentially going to go right in Joe Burrow's pocket this offseason.
(13:29):
It should and then Jamar Chase the following year. Man,
that's awesome. They just theyre bringing a sports book, just
build a sports book. So these guys can get paid.
I mean, but but then Brandon Bean's gonna say, well,
they have an advantage because we can't do that here
in Buffalo, you know, Like that's the problem though. It's
just not fair for you gamble in New York yet,
I don't know. I'm not sure you can. Can you
(13:50):
gamble in New York for sure? Yeah? I mean when
we do our draft kings read it says that you
can hit hope and why or text it. Yeah, if
you got a problem, Yeah, if you have a problem
gambling in New York, right, I think I think LaVar
is like connecting the dots, saying if you have a problem,
obviously you're able to gamble. So there he's Yeah, I
think Jos having a hard time connect those dots. No, No,
(14:11):
I connected those dots. I'm a dot connector. It's what
I do. Hey, do you have an update on the
Australian Open by the way? You tre? Yeah? So the
TV was changed to um we need an update on
the weather locally here in l A. Okay, you know
what step of v uh ah man. You know, LaVar
(14:39):
LaVar witdis and studio always has to have the weather
on in studio, just wants to know what's going on
the climate, literally the climate of the country. You're going
to put that on me, but I'm not even in
the studio. I'm just saying so like in your honor,
like they wanted to make sure that you're gonna put
that on me, and I'm not even in the studio
with you. Okay, So here's you just told on yourself.
(15:00):
I didn't. I didn't tell it anything. I'm focused. Yes,
I'm a dot connector and I'm a dot connector. All right,
they're not focused on the show. So here's the of
the world this. So they know Arena Sabolenka, who was
the underdog that Live Bet Jesus picked to ben h
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seven six the first set and a five one lead
in the second set. So it looks like Live Jesus
Pick is well on, well on its way to hitting
here and Lee, if you could, at what point in
the match did Live bet you just to make that
bet was a four one? Uh he Sablanca had just
won the first set in the match. That was that
was the other question. So no, no, because that's not
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she was already Did we have another visit to Margut
reatavill yesterday. No, unfortunately. Hey, by the way, did you
find out if they had one in Arizonaly for Super Bowl? Oh?
I'm looking that up. Yeah, we gotta we gotta hit
up the Phoenix Margarita. Is there one of Phoenix? Oh?
Come on that that would be one of the desert.
That doesn't even make sense. I mean, there's one of
(16:07):
Basis in the desert. Come on, yeah, come on, let's
look this up. But like Margarita, Bill is more about
like the boat life, you know, Yeah, you have a
boda desert. Yeah. Plus in Arizona you gotta go to
like but you will be thirsty in the desert though,
well he's always thirsty. I'm thirsty. It's hot as hell
out here. Let's go to Marge the PhoX. We're going
(16:29):
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right now. Oh man, it's two pros and a cup
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Now we mentioned this, could you picture the great Albert Brier,
senior NFL reporter at the mm QB. Get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier hanging out by a cigarette machine
(17:58):
back in Columbus, Ohio, listening to Allison Chains while people
can't figure out how to get a pack of lung
darts out of there. He just hits the side of
it and down they fall. So, Albert, is there any
truth to that story about you back in the day
in Columbus? I mean, I want to do a few
places that had cigarette machines, so I don't know that
I was hanging out by them. I mean, Brady, you
(18:19):
probably know all the places I used to go to
because most of them are closed now. But like I
i'd hang out like two's whoa? Well, whoa? Did he
pass out? Did you pass out? Albert? Are you okay?
Was that a tectic test? Are you there? Albert? By
(18:45):
the way, he said he I got a twos. Who
hasn't hung out with a couple of twos from time
to time? You know that happens, It happens. I hope
Albert is okay. That might have been the greatest calling
he's ever had. I just hope I need to Albert's
(19:09):
voice to be kidding me. All right, Albert, are you there?
I found? So I found Okay. Now, I was like,
I was like going through all the old Columbus bars,
which I'm sure right, you have to know the names
of the places I went to, right like because those
are all closed now. But you said they're all closed
now though, But maybe can you name a few, well,
(19:31):
two zigs which became four kegs, which became the old
patio outer in still there, so like the spot bar,
which is where like our quarterback out a duy coming
out of there, um, when I was a senior. So
those are like be a few of the places you
I'm sure you knew some of those places, right, Yeah,
(19:52):
I've heard of some of those. I didn't really frequent, um,
you know, going down on you know, High State's campus month,
so I mean you know I mean for that, No, No,
I was. I was dating a girl who's in mind
of Ohio, so I would usually get to Oxford and
go there and being uptown on all that, well, that
is that is higher brow. So you are too hygebrow.
(20:14):
Oh wow, So now now you're throwing a bunch of
mind Ohio folks that under the bus. Woweable. Now, Albert,
let me ask you a question. What's more likely to
happen you going back to some of those bars in
Columbus or Sean Payton actually coaching somebody next year? Oh my, God. Well,
like I said, I can't go back to those bars
because they don't exist. But I think it was an
(20:37):
increasing chance that Sean Payton's going back to Fox. I mean,
I I don't know. I think there was sort of
this feeling that, you know, the perfect job was going
to land in his lap. And I'm not sure any
of these are ones that he wants to chase. Um
And I honestly don't know how hard these like different
places are recruiting him either. Like, I don't know it's
(21:00):
been a land rush for him either. So it's just
it sort of feels like the right fit might not
be there this time around. I don't know if he
wants to marry himself to Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson. Um.
You know, I think in Carolina, in Houston, that's a
little bit more of a build type of situation. And
I don't know if the geography is right there for him.
(21:20):
I think he's sort of like to stay west, so UM,
I'm not sure that any of these like really match
up for him. I think he's comfortable, you know, in
his job at Foxton. He's comfortable living out in Manhattan Beach,
and Um, I think he's comfortable to wait for another year.
I mean, I think the other thing that people like
ignore a little bit is he is a little older now,
(21:41):
so you know, this very well could be his last shot,
you know, as an NFL coach, and so um, I
think he was always going to be selective. I just
think the feeling probably from him was that the right
job was gonna come along. And I'm just not sure
that the right job is out there for him right now.
So I think that there's a pretty good chance he
winds up back on TV now year. Wow. I mean,
(22:01):
and is that more just an indication on his thoughts?
I look at the Broncos I feel like that's probably
the one a lot of people are trying to connect
him to a lot of people thought maybe he'd take.
Is that an indictment on Russell Wilson or the set
up there in Denver? I mean, what would you what
would you say about that opportunity? Yeah, I mean I
I think the idea of working for the Waltons probably
(22:22):
appeals to him, you know. And I and look like
I think the asking price is another piece of this too,
Like I don't know, if I go all these places
are willing to go to million dollars to go and
get him now Denver. I think if Denver felt really
strongly about it, they would, you know, um, And I
think the idea of working for the Waltons appeals to him.
It's just I think so much of this for a
(22:42):
coach like Sean Payton is about how you're gonna structure
the team and how you're gonna set it up. If
he goes to Denver, will they let him hire his
own general manager? If he goes to Denver, what does
he do about the quarterback? I just think like some
of the things structurally about the way he's set it
up or an issue. And yeah, I mean I think
to some degree, Brighty it isn't and on on where
Russell Wilson is in his career and whether or not,
(23:04):
like there's really juice left there, you know, because if
you're gonna pay a guy almost fifty million dollars a
year and that guy is gonna be on your salary
cap at fifty million dollars a year for the foreseeable future,
well you know, then he's gonna have to make up
for other holes or deficiencies on your team. Like that's
just the way it works, Like, that's the environment that
(23:25):
Aaron Rodgers lives in. It's the environment Pat Mahomes lives in,
you know. And can Russell Wilson be that guy? Who?
Can he still be that guy who lifts up everything
around him? I don't know that there's a real belief
out there that he is that guy anymore? M wow?
So who is who would be? Are are you hearing
(23:45):
the best candidate or or the guy that Denver Broncos
or Arizona Cardinals are are seeking because I'd seem to
feel like Arizona would have been super attractive for Sean
Payton before they got into GM. I think you bring
in a GM now that makes it difficult because now
between Kyler Murray and the new GM, if there's no
(24:07):
no relationship, you know what what happens there? LeVar, I
agree with you. Like the fact that Arizona hired Monty
Austin for it is their GM tells me they're not
locked in on Sean Payton, you know, because and they're
gonna talk to him today. And I just think like
when you if you were really like we're going to
lock stock and barrel after Sean Payton and We're gonna
(24:30):
pay him whatever he wants. Aren't you leaving your GM
spot open until you talk to him? You know what
I mean? Like, aren't you gonna at least give yourself
the opportunity to offer him the chance to pick his
own GM. You know, That's why I think their focus
is sort of shifted elsewhere. And so you know, they
had Dan Coin in for a second interview. Um, they
like one of their internal candidates, Vans Joseph Um. And
(24:53):
then I think Brian Flores is a very strong candidate there. Um.
He came up and scouting with their new GM Monty
Austin fort Um. He interviewed really well there five years
ago in two thousand and eighteen. It's sort of what
set him up to get the Miami job. You know,
he interviewed well there. Michael Bidwell told the rest of
the owners like how impressive flooras was. The four interviews
got the Miami job the next year. So I think
(25:14):
that i'd be looking at those three um in Arizona,
you know. And then Denver, I think Dan Quinn is
still a very strong candidate there. He's got the relationship
with George Peyton. You know. I also think David Shaw,
the former Stanford coach, is appealing to them now, like,
can you put together in NFL staff? Can he convince
the owners there that he could win in the NFL
leve I think that those are those are the questions
(25:36):
they're asking themselves right now. But I think the idea
of kind of going outside the box and hiring David
Shaw is a very very serious consideration with the owners.
They're especially considering all the ties to Stanford that exists
in that building right now. Albert we are joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert,
(25:56):
we were talking about just the situation Brandon Bean was
sort of throwing a shot at Cincinnati and they've got
guys on a rookie deal, etcetera, etcetera. What what does
a contract look like for Joe Burrow at this point
in time? And do you think it happens this offseason?
I mean, if I'm the Bengals, I go to Joe
Burrows agent, I say, please, just don't make it hurt
(26:17):
too much. I mean, he can ask, he can ask
for whatever he wants to guys. You know what I mean,
Like I he's changed the base of that franchise. I
I I think, Um, it's gonna take some creativity on
this on both sides to get something done. Um, that's
gonna set them up to continue to compete like the
same way that the Chiefs and and and my homes
(26:39):
we were. We're very creative like and I don't think
that that Burrows gonna take that sort of structure, But
I think they're gonna have to be creative to work
around some things. But I mean, I think you're talking
based on five million dollars, probably fifty five. Um, you
know when you go from there, and it's gonna be
interesting because there are a few of these that have
(27:00):
a chance to get done over the next couple of months,
justin Herbert's another one, and then obviously Lamar Jackson's out there,
and so it's gonna be interesting to see if there's
a little bit of a game of chicken out there
too with you know, who goes first here, and so
you know, I think all three of those could kind
of play into one another. You know, if you're Herbert
and your borrow, maybe you want to wait until you
(27:21):
know the the free agent market opens in the middle
of March to see what happens with Lamar, so you
can sort of set your expectations accordingly. UM, but make
no mistake about it, like it's gonna be very, very
expensive to sign Joe Burrow long term. UM. I think
there's gonna be some creativity to whatever deal they get done.
And I do think the Bengals are fully big guarantee
(27:42):
or fully or fully prepared to pay what it's gonna
take to get Joe Burrow. With the one caveat being,
I do think that because of the ESCOR rules, it's
gonna be a little bit more difficult for them than
other teams to fully guarantee a contract, right, They're gonna
have all that cat somewhere right astro to make sure
they can pay it. That's always one of the interesting
(28:04):
nuances that it show sets a little bit of light
on how how wealthy some of these owners are. UM.
I want to ask you about the hiring process with
the Colts. I know Dan Quinn still hasts to interview
Jeff Saturday's going back for a second. UM. I mean
this has been a team that some some candidates have
just turned down flat out, not just wanted to go
interview at all. Where are they at? What are your
(28:25):
thoughts on where this is headed? They've been all over
the place, Brady, I Um, I know there are at
least a few people who've been involved in this thing
who think that Jim Urcy really wants to hire Jeff
Saturday and so long as you have Saturday can put
together a confidence staff, he's gonna do it. And you
know even that, like I've heard that there are other
(28:47):
people in that building, the thing is a bad idea
to do it, to go forward with it based on
how the year ended, and are trying to get as
many people in front of um Jim mur saying whether
you know his daughter to Carly, it's Chris Ballet, the GM.
You know, the director of team development, Brian Deckers involved.
Um that one of the reasons they're putting so many
(29:08):
people in front of Jim Ercy is because they're trying
to convince him that it is not a good idea
to go forward with Jeff Saturday as the head coach.
We'll see what happens, you know, I think with he
Morris is a really strong candidate there. Um, he'll go
back for a second interview on Friday. Is over is
another one who's done well in the process, Dan Quinn,
Like you said, UM, a strong candidate there. But I
(29:28):
think one of the reasons why they've cast such a
wide net is, you know again, A because I think
the other people in the room are trying to get
as many people as they can in front of Jim Rcy,
you know, and b if it does wind up being
Jeff Saturday, they can at least say we looked through
absolutely everything before we went and did this. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter
(29:51):
at the mm QB always good stuff. Albert, thanks so much.
We'll do it again next week. I feel like I broke.
I feel like I had a good streak of no
phone troubles and then there were earlier today. What the
hell was the thought like one of those staticky things. No,
it was like it was like you were hitting a button,
(30:11):
like you it sounded like passed out on your face.
Your face was laying on the phone. Yeah, yeah, like
like somebody got up on something effect. Yeah. We didn't
like it. We were scared, you know. I was to
come up with some pretty cool theories. How that happened.
I guess right, yeah, John Wick showed up to away
that out there, Albert. Uh by the way, Albert ten seconds.
(30:36):
So we gotta get your down your picks on the
game this weekend. I think the I think the Bengals
in the Niners when um, I think the Bengals are
gonna win the Super Bowl, like I just I mean,
I mean, Brady knows this for me. Like I've been
in Joe Burrow Believer for a while, I actually still
think there are a lot of people who don't realize
(30:58):
just how good the kid is over the arrows. I know.
It's not even that man, like you know what it is.
It's like I think he's like I think I think
he's Tom Brady. I think I think it's exactly though
he's more Montana than he is Brady. Yeah, but here's
what I mean by that, Brady, Like, I I think
(31:19):
like the same mistake that people made with Tom Brady
fifteen years ago, where people would say, and this is
totally forgotten now, but people looked at him and said
that's a game manager. Because he wasn't physically overwhelming. They
look at him and say, like, that's a game manager.
Like you just you have to be good around now.
He was number one overall. What are you talking about?
(31:40):
It's the same narrative though Brady, isn't it Like, No,
I don't know anyone who actually says Joe Burrows. I've
never heard anyone say that. From his time at l
s U to his time and sincin that, I have
not heard anyone say that. Well, I just think that
they don't look at him the same way that they
look at Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes because he's not
as freakish fist. That's sort of what I'm getting at.
(32:02):
And so I think that there's that like his strengths
are stuff that you can't see. That's where that's you
can see his time, you can see, but like the
way he the way he like gets guys open, the
way he controls everything out there. I just think that
there's so many strengths he has that you cannot see that.
I think that's where similar to Brady. I think Brady
(32:22):
a lot of Brady strengths early in his career and
people wound up seeing them over the years, But earlier
he does things you can't see out that when you're
watching them on TV and they manifested wide open receivers.
They manifest in Tyler Boyd. Yeah, I agree with um. Well,
(32:43):
there it is the picture of Albert Brier, straight from
the man himself. But our all right, so we appreciate it.
We're up against it. But let's do it again next week.
And now we'll see if your picks come through this weekend.
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