January 31, 2023 • 41 mins
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seems like it's a formality. The Houston Texans are going
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to hire a brand new head coach. Now if it
sounds like we've said that the past two or three
off seasons and got there in the league, I forgot
about him for two seconds, like they still need a
coach like they But apparently Damiko Ryan's the defensive coordinator
with the same thing let play there, who was an
All pro there, started his career there. Apparently he is
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the odds on favorite to get the job. He's already
told the Denver Broncos reportedly that he's not interested. That's
nobody wants to touch Denver. That's the weirdest part of
this whole thing to me, I don't I don't understand
what's happening. Why do you not understand it? What do
you think the problem? What do you mean you think Mr? Mr? Mr?
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Was it not? You think it's cornball behavior? Just kind
of chased everybody away? Love. I don't know what I
was to put put their money down? Wasn't the laugh
It could be? Yeah, I mean the final strong could
have been the dangerous? What burrito? What was it that
he was sandwich? He's not living safe, He's living dangerous.
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You know, we gotta do be just all of it,
like all of it, I mean, is there. I mean,
he's got CR si Era by the way, not CR.
But but here's the thing. He does have Sierra though
so and he does have and he does have his
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Sierra but and he does have his own office you
can go to. I can't believe you're not going to
hit the button. Bert, How are you gonna call her
si Ara? It's Sierra Sierra. There's one man, there's one
man who would know the answer to this. Definitely. I've
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got intimate knowledge on this portion of the conversation. The
latest mess it up Lea I'm good. I'm passing on
this one. What do you mean said it both ways?
You've said it both ways and you don't care. Just
pull up one of her songs. She says her name
before she starts singing the song. I don't one of
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them she eame? Yeah? Does she? Yeah? That's Sierra though.
Just whatever it is, she's hot. I mean, have you
ever seen her perform in person? No, it's pretty impressive.
I don't think i'd be allowed. Um yeah, so what
are Yeah? I felt like it was more more. Houston
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isn't interesting. Timber is interesting because of Russell Wilson, and
nobody wants to coach because of Russell Wilson. There we go,
let's pick up from there. It up just I'm surprised, well,
just quickly on the Houston Texans front. I'm surprised that
the Texans are going to land a guy who's got
the qualifications of Damiko Ryan's and what he's done in
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San Francisco, considering they've and one and done on head
coach is the past couple of years. They're a mess man.
And the fact that if you could land to Miko
O Ryan's, you gotta be looking around going Okay, here
we go again, because I can't. And I'm surprised that
to Miko Ryan's would look at this and say, I'd
rather go there and I know the personal ties to
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it than go to Denver because it feels like Houston's
the last organization I would trust if I'm trying to
get my start and head coaching in the NFL. Am
I wrong for pointing out an obvious deal here, but
it is what it is because people love pointing out
race and racial deals. Third, this will be the third
black coach that they've hired. I'm just saying, I mean, Berno,
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what's the Is there something to take away? Okay, but
they could call Sierra Sierra, you go ahead the button.
I mean, I don't know all of you people. You don't.
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I mean, I'm just I'm just trying to clarification with
a stream. It's you people called her cr you and
Jonas actually believable where you at on this. I'm reading notes.
I know what you're talking about. Hey, But honestly, though,
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let's let's be like, is there something to be made
of that? I mean, because let's be clear, there are
a lot of times we sit there and say there
are racial issues and want me to say, go ahead,
say it there. You think they're doing it to try
to cover up the racial issues they've got. I don't.
I don't. That's not why I said it. I that
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that wasn't the road I was going down. But I
just found it to be interesting that. I mean, you
don't find that to be a tad bit interesting three
in a row. There were some accusations that were thrown
out back when Deshaun Watson was that was and so
it almost seems like, you know, they're they're trying to
not make it look like that by by their recent
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hirings passed. Whatever the case may be. Um, that's not
for for me to necessarily discuss. I think it's just
it's kind of worked out the way it's worked out. Um,
you went with the first time head coach, David Coley
didn't like that after a year, and maybe that had
had to do more with you know, Nick Sirianni and
and the front office and how that was gonna work together.
But then you end up hiring Lovely Smith because you
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realize when he was a part of the process of
entering head coaches, he's your best candidate at least that's
what you say. So what you give him a year
and that's hit. So then you move on from him.
Now you bring in a young defensive mine who would
be a first time head coach, and Damiko Ryan's I
think the point that's brought up is the fact that
why would any candidate want to go there? I think
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that's a bigger point without a huge, huge guarantee, no offset.
I mean, it would have to be to me at
least a five six year deal and the perfect contract.
So I made cal McNair pay if he fires me
after one year. So that way, I'm not saying, like
you know, I'm not saying that I'm the you know,
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the fool in this case for taking a job when
you've seen the previous two guys get out set after
one year. But maybe it's the right time now, you know,
maybe it's the right time to come to come take
this organization over and build it up whatever it is.
I just I think it's it's such an unattractive job
for that reason, and so if you better get the
contract you want. What what pick do they have this year?
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They would have had one had Levi Smith not won
the game. Okay, so they have the number two overall picks,
so they can get a they can get a franchise guy,
either Will Levis or or you'd have to assume maybe
Bryce or maybe uh c j strout their speculation. They
might be trying to trade up to one because the
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Bears are sitting at one, Indianapolis is sitting at four.
And if they're going both in the market for the
same quarterback, say Bryce Young, you don't want to lose
him to somebody in your division. So they're gonna try
and do whatever they can to make sure Indie doesn't
get their guy, and so they could end up at one.
Which look, if you start over at one and you
get start and it's just to one and Doun's in
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a row, man, come on, well, I mean, if i'm
Damiko Ryan's I'm looking at it like one. I played there.
I have a history there and and and it was
the glory days of the Texans. For one, they were
really fine defense. I believe him and uh Cushing were
two of the badasses on on that defense at the
linebacker's position. And the great thing about Cushing never piste hot,
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never on the gas, no issues whatsoever. I'm a fan, Yeah,
I'm a fan of Cushing. I mean, I'm just saying,
you know you call it? I mean Jonas does I mean, wait,
it's ever heard anyone who I've seen and been around
that community that takes stuff for performanceancing drugs talk about
it that way? What do you mean? Okay, bro never
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never piste it before? Nope. How do you say stuff
like that? You act like it's a thing. Yeah, you
should hear his off air slang. Anyway. Um So, man
Ji Rule used to be a big time rap artist
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and that Holler Holler video was one of his finest moments. Yeah,
that was one of his best moments. Um, I digress.
We do have MPD. You get that we have MTV
on and uh I mean yeah, So anyway, Um, I'm so,
I'm so distracted. I'm so, I'm so distracted. But here's
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the thing. Right, if I'm Demiko Ryan and I'm taking
this job, he's probably looking at it the same way
you just described it, like you've had to one and Dun's.
It's two minorities that have been one and Dun's. You're
not going to be a one and done with Damiko
Ryan if you bring him in and and if you're
getting you're you're getting the guy you want in terms
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of a quarterback, a franchise caliber, franchise great quarterback in
the draft. You know, it's a fresh start and and
you get an opportunity to, you know, rebuild. I would
assume that the most most relevant approach to being a
Houston Texans UM decision maker is to give the GM
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and the head coach at least three to four years
for a rebuild in Houston, because that's what it's gonna take.
I mean, you're talking about you lost your franchise quarterback,
you lost your franchise defensive player, you lost your franchise receiver.
I mean, at some point point you gotta really really
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start to rebuild. You haven't seen a real true UM
effort in rebuilding like they used a you know, a
quarterback that was already on the roster for this past season,
I mean the season before. We all know how that
played out. And this seems like, as you mentioned, it
seems like the perfect timing if you're going to and
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it seems like the perfect fit. You know, if you
ask me to to bring in a guy who's familiar
with the organization, familiar with the city, has has a
like um from the city has a buy in, because
that's what's gonna take. It's gonna take someone who has
like kind of like to me, that uniting type of
energy in and Demiko is is everything. I don't know
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him personally, but from everything that I ever heard about
him as a player, because I always respected his game. Um,
everything I ever heard about him as a player as
he was always like a great a uh stand up
dude and a big time leader. And just watching him
on the sideline for the forty nine is exciting, watching
how the guys react and how they you know, they
play for him, because to me, that's that's the biggest thing,
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right You gotta be a coach that players believe in
and are willing to to play for. And that's sometimes
that's a very complicated and difficult uh task for for
adults to do with other adults that are making money.
Also financially, they paid David Coley twenty two million dollars,
they're paying love E. Smith. Now, didn't they have to
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pay out a significant amount for the Deshaun Watson stuff.
Remember they were also part of the conversation. They knew
what was going on, Wasn't it like thirty million dollars
they had to pay out to that's that's a lot
of that's a lot to pay out. And then you're
bringing in Damiko Ryan's I can't imagine. But you're still selling,
you know, a luxury box to the lawyer that you'll understand.
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These owners make so much money off the TV deal
they cannot fail like the like this this business, it's
it's like impossible. You could be the worst in the
league and you're still gonna make money. It's unbelievable. I
telling I watch all the games. It's prediculous. Can you
imagine being a Texas fan right now? It's like, hey,
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where's your owner's money going. Well, there's a couple of things.
Two head coaches that were fired after a year, a
massage parlor scandal and all that, and all the people
that tried to give massage therapy to DeShawn Watson allegedly
allegedly we're giving massage there. I mean, I hope it
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works for Devika. I'm just surprised that what so what
do you think the you think this is going to
be similar to the Kyle Shannon Because Kyle Shannon got
what a six year deal when he first got to
San Francisco like that he got a long term deal there.
Do you think Damiko Ryan's is absolutely going to get
a long term deal here? And and that's what it's
going to take to to get him to take the job,
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knowing the history of the commitment, Yeah, for certain, after
what has just happened. You gotta show a commitment that
you can't lose your fan base and you can't lose
the trust and to buy in. I mean that that's
a large part of all of this, right. You gotta
bees your fan base, your clientele. You gotta deliver. I
think this is a good move for them, Honestly, I
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think it's a really good move for them. I just
don't know how good of a move it is for Demiko.
But you know, you're getting an opportunity. Though I feel
the exact same way. I think this would be a
home run for Houston, but Houston done messed it up
so many times. Like I just, I don't know. I
I worry more for him, you know, And I think
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he's in such a good spot right He's in a
tremendous job with San Francisco. They had the number one
d this year, you know, with that group coming back
a lot of them. I mean, they've they've gotta you know,
they've gotta signed both safeties. Both safeties are unrestricted free agents,
and their cornerbacks a couple of um both of what
you got hurt are unrestricted free agents. But you know,
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they've got a great nucleus coming back. And I don't
know that you need to rush to to to go
take this job because he's going to have more opportunities.
So I just I don't know. I mean, I think
he's agree, he'll be a great head coach, and I
s don't know if Houston is the right place for
him to get started, even though he obviously had had
a successful career there and was drafted there. Maybe there's
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still some ties that make a lot of sense. Two
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two That's actually true. Yeah, that's true. That's actually not
a lie, which is rare. It is a rare, rare
moment of the truth here on this show. Did you
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(17:27):
She she's she out of here at age sixty four,
send the shout out to the original Wednesday. Are you
Adams Family fan? Do you uh? Maybe, way way back,
way back? Yeah, happened there. There's there wasn't very much
on television. There was Mash and there was the Adams Family,
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and there was um the Cospiees. I was usually watching
the Strongest Man competition back in the day. They didn't
have that. Back in the back that too. You might
have watched Gladia, remember that American Glad. Yeah, that was
a pretty cool show. Jim and I Competition he was
pretty good. Turbo he's pretty good. Yeah, okay, Laser all right.
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The girls were a pretty athletic on that show. They
slammed the hell out of you. Yeah, indeed, I mean
it's very true. That was an awesome show. Why do
you think you bring that back? They're trying who Todd
Christensen was? Was the hose he was trying to shoot
with tennis balls? Remember him, Todd Christensen? Yeah, absolutely great broadcaster.
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I had no idea. Who was also a great football
player too. He had there's a great hairy. You know.
He was the first that first dude that made uh
having a Jerry Curl you know popular? Was he? I mean,
you know on the on the what you know? What
do I mean Todd Christensen? I'll understand. But the problem
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is he had a Jerry Curl. On's wrong with that?
And it was wet with Curl activator. It's not natural
you're saying, I mean he activated it. Okay, okay, and
I'm with you to they should bring it back, didn't
they try and bring back They called it like something
like something games or something like that. Didn't didn't have
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Rock tried to do it too, the Rock to do
like a variation of it. Ye, he's doing everything. Well.
You ever see his trailer at the what is the
Universal Studios, It's like a whole building his trailers like
a hotel. I thought they did try and bring it
back and MGM and WW tried to bring it back,
tried to reboot it. Yeah, what was the other one
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that where people are jumping over the water? Um, it's
like the new one American one. Maybe that's like the
comp Maybe that's what they're trying to that's not here's
what you're not getting hunted. We started judging all those
juice stuff dudes you're on the show who were bullying
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problem because they're bullying because they average people who go out.
Next thing, you know, laser would clothesline them as they
try to stick with those balls and like the little
basket or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
And by the way, they're not testing on that show.
I'm pretty sure I'm not saying they can't take whatever
they want. Jon Us. The point I'm bringing out we
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put a negative connotation on it. You shouldn't have so
now we're like, oh, you don't want to be like
those guys and look like them, you mean, absolutely jacked
and just beating the hell out of normal. Joe's literally
like beating the hell out of them. Yeah, it's like
now people judge them for it. There you go. Yeah,
well listen, Oh that sucks. I know, to bring it back. Man.
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They was whooping ass on that show. God they were.
That's the best part. It's like so many people rejoiced,
like just your average dude getting absolutely polish. It's you
remember when they were on the swinging rings and them
big strong mothersuckers would be just swinging on them joint
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something that they'd be panicking the little weakling everyone's at
once a while they all starts taking that they just
dropped before the guy even get to him. What about
did they have like remember they like, yeah, just standing
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on the two platforms. And the best part was in
the rare times that one of the gladiators lost, they
were so pissed started that was Nitro. That was Nitro.
He started throwing his helmet at him like he really
wanted to fight the dude. Yeah, fits like he really
had a rage moment. I remember it exactly. Yeah, he
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definitely raged on him, like running with the bulls. I
mean the way they went up there. Bad stuff happens,
the way they wore the white they climbed up the walls.
It's kind of interesting. They let him get that hit start,
they climb up the walls and they're here. They come,
pull them on down, right on by, and pull them
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(22:33):
the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, following their loss
to the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. He spoke with
the media yesterday about the status and situation of Joe Burrow,
his quarterback, trying to get a deal done and locking
him up long term. I think that starts now internally,
and so again, just wrapped up with the team today
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and as you go forward you start talking about Joe
and and all the other players. Yeah, so better go
ahead and get that locked in. And if that starts internally,
if you're the Ravens, are you sitting there going hold
please please? Oh no, the second quarterback of the division
to reset the market, thic. Come on, man, you know
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you know they're desperately trying to get it done. You
know Baltimore is trying to get it done before any
of the Shenanigans get going. You know they are. Yeah,
he ain't budget. It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, here's the
only thing I would say. I still think Burrows contract
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as much as like another deal coming up, would help
make the case that you know, no one's gonna give
you a fully guaranteed five year deal like the Browns
gave Watson. You're gonna see Burrows deal eclipse Watson's in
total value. You'll see has be worth more than two
and thirty. Guarantee you that it will probably ballpark to
(23:58):
sixty like I would think will do when I said
this yesterday. They'll do a long term extension. So they'll
do probably a six year extension. It could be somewhere
north of two fifty and I would not be shocked
if you didn't see again. The escrow portion of this
is what makes it hard. You know that the ownership
group where the owner is gonna have to have that
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cash set aside an escrow. So I don't know if
the guarantees will be quite as big for that reason,
because they're a family run team and it's it's just different.
But the total value of the contract is gonna be high.
And you better believe Joe Burrow is gonna be making
our average annual value of forty five to fifty million
a year, and well, you know, take it. But that
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I don't know that Lamar jackson situation is gonna get
any clearer. I mean, they're two completely different players because
it's still not all the way guarantee. Yeah, it's not
on the way guaranteed. And even then, I just think
there's still injury concern. You know, I don't know that
Lamar Jackson's deal is gonna be as long, and I
don't know that it's gonna be as as high as
total value. Now they might say, yeah, we'll pay you
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forty five million a year, but on a on a
four year deal as opposed to a six year deal
because we're a little concerned about, you know, what would
happen if you, you know, keep getting injured and you
can't play, and and how how's that going to impact
you as a player, if you do have a significant
lower body injury. Yeah, uh, it's It'll be interesting to
(25:27):
see how it plays out. And maybe maybe someone like
Joe Burrow getting a deal done, um, maybe helps Lamar
Jackson feel a little bit better about maybe not getting
fully guaranteed. You know, I don't ever want to speak
out of term for someone else and what they're trying
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to get done, especially in the financial realm. But if
you really think about it, I mean, you don't have
to get too caught up into ring. It's fully guaranteed
if you're getting forty five some million dollars a year, Like,
I don't think that you have to get that blown
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away or or that bullish on fully guaranteed if you're
getting that type of scratch yearly, is Lamar Jackson better
than Deshaun Watson. He's accomplished more because I mean he's
no longer the best quarterback in the division. That's Joe Burrow.
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That's Joe Burrow, and that would have been a better question.
Do you think that he's a better quarterback than Joe Burrow?
No chance. And that's why you didn't even know he
has still because I'm just wondering if the Ravens look
at Lamar Jackson and go, maybe he's peaked. Maybe the
best of Lamar Jackson we've already seen. And that's sort
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of where the splint. That's always a possibility, and that's
within their room and their rights to feel that way.
But that's that's a really risky approach to take, considering
how hard it is to find a quarterback. It just
it feels like you gotta pay him because that's where
you're at. You gotta do it. You can try and
(27:14):
go in another direction. But look, part of the reason
why John Harbaugh and and a lot of people there,
you know, are still in Baltimore. If you go back
to the season when Lamar Jackson got drafted, there was
a talk because Ozzy knewsoon was leaving and Joe Flacco
was in his final year, and there was talk that
John Harbor was going to be out too, that they
were going to amiclatebly all walk the other way. This
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is gonna be one final run and they're going to
start the rebuild. And then Lamar got hot. That season
is rookie year, they made the playoffs, and the rest
was history. I just wonder how far apart they actually
are to where it would get to the point that
Baltimore just says, look, we've gotten the best we could
get out of him, and now we go in another direction.
It's just risky considering how hard it is to find
(27:57):
a franchise quarterback is super or to find a franchise guy,
and you do have a guy in Lamar Jackson. I mean,
there's no reason to downgrade him or to you know,
minimize what he represents to your team. He's definitely your
franchise quarterback. Question is can you figure out a way?
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Because I think what we're learning about today's NFL, if
they don't want to pay it, they're they're going to
be more prone to go the opposite direction than to
be strong armed into doing something they don't want to do.
I think that that's become pretty pretty obvious and pretty
prevalent if you ask me, unless the franchise is in
(28:41):
a desperation situation, which you don't find that often. You know,
but I mean, you look at the New York Jets,
that's a possibility. You look at the the Houston Texans,
that's a possibility. Um, but the Houston Texans are drafting,
so that's not going to be a free agent situations.
So you gotta you have to understand the market you're in.
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You have to understand your value, and within understanding your
value and going after what you feel feel is fear
fear market value, you still have to be very, very
sensible and the approach that that you're taking that doesn't
make you a sellout, doesn't make you dumb, doesn't make you,
you know, anything other than someone who's doing business at
a high level for high stakes. That sounds like for me.
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But they're good for Cincinnati though. They get an Ohio guy.
Joe Burrow is going to be their quarterback for the
next what ten twelve years, is going to get a
monster deal, and they've got one of the best quarterbacks
in the league and they're gonna be in in contention
for the next decade plus. I mean, so if you're
a Bengals fan, I know, uh, I know, you know
Brandon being wanted to take shots at them. Hey, whatever
(29:49):
you want to call it. They had the number one
pick of the draft, they landed and they hit a
home run. And now Zach Taylor's you know, the conversation
is different with them. I was gonna go back to
kind of the on on the note at LaVar talked about.
I look at it and just think there are so
many talented quarterbacks who are coming out from the college
ranks that some of these teams probably feeling boldened to,
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you know, basically say all right, if like, if you
don't want to agree to this, like, we'll go find
someone else that we can draft develop and we'll put
our stock into that. I mean, there's four guys right
now that are just being discussed in the first round
of this year's draft. There's two in the next year's
draft that people are probably looking at his franchise quarterbacks
(30:31):
in Caleb Williams and Drake May. I mean, so you're
talking about six guys right now. I don't know that
there's necessarily six spots or six teams. And you say, like,
are are really dead set on needing a quarterback this offseason?
And that's not including the fact that you've got Derek Carr,
Tom Brady, you know, Aaron Rodgers, and as you look
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through some of the others that could be being moved around.
I mean it's there's not that many spots if you're
playing musical chairs of quarterbacks and the spots in the league, right,
So I just think as a team, to Lavarr's point
about them feeling more, you know, maybe rigid in their negotiations,
it's because, yeah, you can kind of turn around and
(31:14):
you know, go ahead and say, all right, like we're
just gonna go draft a guy next year. And now
you have to be in striking distance to do that,
or the the you after the right luck, or maybe
you have to give you up some of that draft
capital to do that. But I think there are and
there's there's so many young talented guys coming out now,
maybe more so than ever before, that really affords you
the chance to do that. It's two pros and a
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What do we got? Guys? We were just talking about
Joe Burrow. I wanted to ask, would you rather have
Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow as your quarterback for the
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next ten years? Patrick Mahomes, I think you'd say my
Homes based on what he's done so far? Right, Ah,
I mean you got I'm gonna go Joe Burrow. I
don't know that you can go wrong, by the way.
(35:30):
I love Joe, and I think you know we we've
seen what we've seen Patrick Mahomes do has been historical.
I don't know that we've ever seen a quarterback like this.
Was one different from y'all just wanted this question. If
you put Burrow in Kansas City, is there a similar result,
(35:53):
I mean the same as mahomes. Yes, it might be more.
Oh you think it would have more than one? Who
of all? He might have more? You might I don't know.
I don't know. I'll take I'll take my home. I mean,
I'll take what's in hand. I mean, definitely take the
bird in hand. But I mean you just put burrow
and arrowhead. I mean they did call it burrow hit.
(36:18):
That was That was Dave Chappelle though, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah,
it fellas. Would you rather have a maid or a chef? Chef?
A maid? A maid? I'm little bar Yeah. By the way,
what doesn't make sense about Jonas? And his answer is
(36:38):
you don't eat? Jonas? What what would use the chef for? Buddy?
Maybe you don't eat? Maybe, uh, maybe it'd changed my life,
you know, maybe the chef would come in and show
me a new world. You know. I look like, here's
what you would need the maid for to clean all
those white underwhether you've got skin marks in for that's
(36:58):
what you're on top. The way, berto you ever noticed
is always white underwear. You notice that Berto, that's a
matter to color. It's still same skip mark. Thank you, hey,
but those are your underwear, not mine, so you're calling
yourself first. I learned my lesser. I learned my lesson.
I hit my early twenties, and after a few nights
of boozing, I realized, Yeah, the white aisle doesn't work
(37:20):
for me anymore. In more ways of the one fellas,
would you rather never have a hot meal again or
never have a cold drink again? I'd rather never have
a cold drink. Yeah, I'd rather never have a cold
drink too. Although that's tough. That is a tough one
because I am like love with a cold drink is
(37:42):
what's room temperature considered? That's not cold temperature is acceptable?
That I can have room temperature, I would. I love
hot meals. Yeah, I'd rather deal with a lukewarm or
room temperature drink than a beverage. Then do you prefer
cold water or room cold? Hate it? Here's the problem.
(38:06):
You couldn't have a nice cold beer. Yeah, yeah, you're
long islands, Yeah, they were just they don't they don't
hit the suck them down faster. It just doesn't hit
the same no, they would not taste as good. But
with that being said, I'd rather do that than have
a cold meal every single day because you imagine ordering
(38:27):
a pizza and you just it's got to be cold.
Cold pizzas like cold pizzas. Yeah, But the problem is
the only reason cold pizza is good is because it
was once hot. So everything's cooked, so you just get dope.
They didn't say anything about that, you still gotta cook it.
So are you saying that it's not even like you
gotta eat cold food as in like cold cuts and
(38:48):
stuff like you have leftovers, cold cuts, yeah, all that stuff.
If I can eat leftovers that are cold every single day,
I might take the cold. By the way, I asked
this question of Brady we're having the conversation about it,
is chicken palm the best leftover food of all time?
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Because the next day, when you heat up chicken palm
in the microwave, it is outstanding. Ribs are what really, man,
because there's no breading or anything like that, so when
you heat them up, it's like you're all the way good.
I ain't gonna lie to you. By the way, I
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got some Tomali's from one of my families that one
of the kids that I coached his grandma made me
some Tomali's and you can have them bad boys frozen
for literally forever and pull them bad boys out and
they are still going to be money when you heat
him up there, So to Molly's might be how on
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that list. I had me some green ones the other
day and I thought about Burdo. I was gonna send
you a uh a message, but it's messed up. Berno.
I was like, I was like, man, and I need
I need Burno. Why I've been begging Burdo Burno telling
me I gotta pay him six to ten thousand dollars
for a runout Tomali's lavarrez. Berno, how much if I
(40:16):
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actually will pay it. But go ahead, there we go.
Would you rather lose your sense of smell or taste?
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seems like it's a formality. The Houston Texans are going
(01:52):
to hire a brand new head coach. Now if it
sounds like we've said that the past two or three
off seasons and got there in the league, I forgot
about him for two seconds, like they still need a
coach like they But apparently Damiko Ryan's the defensive coordinator
with the same thing let play there, who was an
All pro there, started his career there. Apparently he is
(02:16):
the odds on favorite to get the job. He's already
told the Denver Broncos reportedly that he's not interested. That's
nobody wants to touch Denver. That's the weirdest part of
this whole thing to me, I don't I don't understand
what's happening. Why do you not understand it? What do
you think the problem? What do you mean you think Mr? Mr? Mr?
(02:43):
Was it not? You think it's cornball behavior? Just kind
of chased everybody away? Love. I don't know what I
was to put put their money down? Wasn't the laugh
It could be? Yeah, I mean the final strong could
have been the dangerous? What burrito? What was it that
he was sandwich? He's not living safe, He's living dangerous.
(03:05):
You know, we gotta do be just all of it,
like all of it, I mean, is there. I mean,
he's got CR si Era by the way, not CR.
But but here's the thing. He does have Sierra though
so and he does have and he does have his
(03:28):
Sierra but and he does have his own office you
can go to. I can't believe you're not going to
hit the button. Bert, How are you gonna call her
si Ara? It's Sierra Sierra. There's one man, there's one
man who would know the answer to this. Definitely. I've
(03:49):
got intimate knowledge on this portion of the conversation. The
latest mess it up Lea I'm good. I'm passing on
this one. What do you mean said it both ways?
You've said it both ways and you don't care. Just
pull up one of her songs. She says her name
before she starts singing the song. I don't one of
(04:09):
them she eame? Yeah? Does she? Yeah? That's Sierra though.
Just whatever it is, she's hot. I mean, have you
ever seen her perform in person? No, it's pretty impressive.
I don't think i'd be allowed. Um yeah, so what
are Yeah? I felt like it was more more. Houston
(04:37):
isn't interesting. Timber is interesting because of Russell Wilson, and
nobody wants to coach because of Russell Wilson. There we go,
let's pick up from there. It up just I'm surprised, well,
just quickly on the Houston Texans front. I'm surprised that
the Texans are going to land a guy who's got
the qualifications of Damiko Ryan's and what he's done in
(04:57):
San Francisco, considering they've and one and done on head
coach is the past couple of years. They're a mess man.
And the fact that if you could land to Miko
O Ryan's, you gotta be looking around going Okay, here
we go again, because I can't. And I'm surprised that
to Miko Ryan's would look at this and say, I'd
rather go there and I know the personal ties to
(05:17):
it than go to Denver because it feels like Houston's
the last organization I would trust if I'm trying to
get my start and head coaching in the NFL. Am
I wrong for pointing out an obvious deal here, but
it is what it is because people love pointing out
race and racial deals. Third, this will be the third
black coach that they've hired. I'm just saying, I mean, Berno,
(05:42):
what's the Is there something to take away? Okay, but
they could call Sierra Sierra, you go ahead the button.
I mean, I don't know all of you people. You don't.
(06:03):
I mean, I'm just I'm just trying to clarification with
a stream. It's you people called her cr you and
Jonas actually believable where you at on this. I'm reading notes.
I know what you're talking about. Hey, But honestly, though,
(06:29):
let's let's be like, is there something to be made
of that? I mean, because let's be clear, there are
a lot of times we sit there and say there
are racial issues and want me to say, go ahead,
say it there. You think they're doing it to try
to cover up the racial issues they've got. I don't.
I don't. That's not why I said it. I that
(06:50):
that wasn't the road I was going down. But I
just found it to be interesting that. I mean, you
don't find that to be a tad bit interesting three
in a row. There were some accusations that were thrown
out back when Deshaun Watson was that was and so
it almost seems like, you know, they're they're trying to
not make it look like that by by their recent
(07:12):
hirings passed. Whatever the case may be. Um, that's not
for for me to necessarily discuss. I think it's just
it's kind of worked out the way it's worked out. Um,
you went with the first time head coach, David Coley
didn't like that after a year, and maybe that had
had to do more with you know, Nick Sirianni and
and the front office and how that was gonna work together.
But then you end up hiring Lovely Smith because you
(07:35):
realize when he was a part of the process of
entering head coaches, he's your best candidate at least that's
what you say. So what you give him a year
and that's hit. So then you move on from him.
Now you bring in a young defensive mine who would
be a first time head coach, and Damiko Ryan's I
think the point that's brought up is the fact that
why would any candidate want to go there? I think
(07:56):
that's a bigger point without a huge, huge guarantee, no offset.
I mean, it would have to be to me at
least a five six year deal and the perfect contract.
So I made cal McNair pay if he fires me
after one year. So that way, I'm not saying, like
you know, I'm not saying that I'm the you know,
(08:17):
the fool in this case for taking a job when
you've seen the previous two guys get out set after
one year. But maybe it's the right time now, you know,
maybe it's the right time to come to come take
this organization over and build it up whatever it is.
I just I think it's it's such an unattractive job
for that reason, and so if you better get the
contract you want. What what pick do they have this year?
(08:40):
They would have had one had Levi Smith not won
the game. Okay, so they have the number two overall picks,
so they can get a they can get a franchise guy,
either Will Levis or or you'd have to assume maybe
Bryce or maybe uh c j strout their speculation. They
might be trying to trade up to one because the
(09:01):
Bears are sitting at one, Indianapolis is sitting at four.
And if they're going both in the market for the
same quarterback, say Bryce Young, you don't want to lose
him to somebody in your division. So they're gonna try
and do whatever they can to make sure Indie doesn't
get their guy, and so they could end up at one.
Which look, if you start over at one and you
get start and it's just to one and Doun's in
(09:24):
a row, man, come on, well, I mean, if i'm
Damiko Ryan's I'm looking at it like one. I played there.
I have a history there and and and it was
the glory days of the Texans. For one, they were
really fine defense. I believe him and uh Cushing were
two of the badasses on on that defense at the
linebacker's position. And the great thing about Cushing never piste hot,
(09:48):
never on the gas, no issues whatsoever. I'm a fan, Yeah,
I'm a fan of Cushing. I mean, I'm just saying,
you know you call it? I mean Jonas does I mean, wait,
it's ever heard anyone who I've seen and been around
that community that takes stuff for performanceancing drugs talk about
it that way? What do you mean? Okay, bro never
(10:09):
never piste it before? Nope. How do you say stuff
like that? You act like it's a thing. Yeah, you
should hear his off air slang. Anyway. Um So, man
Ji Rule used to be a big time rap artist
(10:30):
and that Holler Holler video was one of his finest moments. Yeah,
that was one of his best moments. Um, I digress.
We do have MPD. You get that we have MTV
on and uh I mean yeah, So anyway, Um, I'm so,
I'm so distracted. I'm so, I'm so distracted. But here's
(10:53):
the thing. Right, if I'm Demiko Ryan and I'm taking
this job, he's probably looking at it the same way
you just described it, like you've had to one and Dun's.
It's two minorities that have been one and Dun's. You're
not going to be a one and done with Damiko
Ryan if you bring him in and and if you're
getting you're you're getting the guy you want in terms
(11:15):
of a quarterback, a franchise caliber, franchise great quarterback in
the draft. You know, it's a fresh start and and
you get an opportunity to, you know, rebuild. I would
assume that the most most relevant approach to being a
Houston Texans UM decision maker is to give the GM
(11:40):
and the head coach at least three to four years
for a rebuild in Houston, because that's what it's gonna take.
I mean, you're talking about you lost your franchise quarterback,
you lost your franchise defensive player, you lost your franchise receiver.
I mean, at some point point you gotta really really
(12:01):
start to rebuild. You haven't seen a real true UM
effort in rebuilding like they used a you know, a
quarterback that was already on the roster for this past season,
I mean the season before. We all know how that
played out. And this seems like, as you mentioned, it
seems like the perfect timing if you're going to and
(12:23):
it seems like the perfect fit. You know, if you
ask me to to bring in a guy who's familiar
with the organization, familiar with the city, has has a
like um from the city has a buy in, because
that's what's gonna take. It's gonna take someone who has
like kind of like to me, that uniting type of
energy in and Demiko is is everything. I don't know
(12:44):
him personally, but from everything that I ever heard about
him as a player, because I always respected his game. Um,
everything I ever heard about him as a player as
he was always like a great a uh stand up
dude and a big time leader. And just watching him
on the sideline for the forty nine is exciting, watching
how the guys react and how they you know, they
play for him, because to me, that's that's the biggest thing,
(13:07):
right You gotta be a coach that players believe in
and are willing to to play for. And that's sometimes
that's a very complicated and difficult uh task for for
adults to do with other adults that are making money.
Also financially, they paid David Coley twenty two million dollars,
they're paying love E. Smith. Now, didn't they have to
(13:28):
pay out a significant amount for the Deshaun Watson stuff.
Remember they were also part of the conversation. They knew
what was going on, Wasn't it like thirty million dollars
they had to pay out to that's that's a lot
of that's a lot to pay out. And then you're
bringing in Damiko Ryan's I can't imagine. But you're still selling,
you know, a luxury box to the lawyer that you'll understand.
(13:50):
These owners make so much money off the TV deal
they cannot fail like the like this this business, it's
it's like impossible. You could be the worst in the
league and you're still gonna make money. It's unbelievable. I
telling I watch all the games. It's prediculous. Can you
imagine being a Texas fan right now? It's like, hey,
(14:12):
where's your owner's money going. Well, there's a couple of things.
Two head coaches that were fired after a year, a
massage parlor scandal and all that, and all the people
that tried to give massage therapy to DeShawn Watson allegedly
allegedly we're giving massage there. I mean, I hope it
(14:32):
works for Devika. I'm just surprised that what so what
do you think the you think this is going to
be similar to the Kyle Shannon Because Kyle Shannon got
what a six year deal when he first got to
San Francisco like that he got a long term deal there.
Do you think Damiko Ryan's is absolutely going to get
a long term deal here? And and that's what it's
going to take to to get him to take the job,
(14:54):
knowing the history of the commitment, Yeah, for certain, after
what has just happened. You gotta show a commitment that
you can't lose your fan base and you can't lose
the trust and to buy in. I mean that that's
a large part of all of this, right. You gotta
bees your fan base, your clientele. You gotta deliver. I
think this is a good move for them, Honestly, I
(15:15):
think it's a really good move for them. I just
don't know how good of a move it is for Demiko.
But you know, you're getting an opportunity. Though I feel
the exact same way. I think this would be a
home run for Houston, but Houston done messed it up
so many times. Like I just, I don't know. I
I worry more for him, you know, And I think
(15:36):
he's in such a good spot right He's in a
tremendous job with San Francisco. They had the number one
d this year, you know, with that group coming back
a lot of them. I mean, they've they've gotta you know,
they've gotta signed both safeties. Both safeties are unrestricted free agents,
and their cornerbacks a couple of um both of what
you got hurt are unrestricted free agents. But you know,
(15:56):
they've got a great nucleus coming back. And I don't
know that you need to rush to to to go
take this job because he's going to have more opportunities.
So I just I don't know. I mean, I think
he's agree, he'll be a great head coach, and I
s don't know if Houston is the right place for
him to get started, even though he obviously had had
a successful career there and was drafted there. Maybe there's
(16:19):
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He was the first that first dude that made uh
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you know on the on the what you know? What
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And it was wet with Curl activator. It's not natural
you're saying, I mean he activated it. Okay, okay, and
I'm with you to they should bring it back, didn't
they try and bring back They called it like something
like something games or something like that. Didn't didn't have
(19:19):
Rock tried to do it too, the Rock to do
like a variation of it. Ye, he's doing everything. Well.
You ever see his trailer at the what is the
Universal Studios, It's like a whole building his trailers like
a hotel. I thought they did try and bring it
back and MGM and WW tried to bring it back,
tried to reboot it. Yeah, what was the other one
(19:43):
that where people are jumping over the water? Um, it's
like the new one American one. Maybe that's like the
comp Maybe that's what they're trying to that's not here's
what you're not getting hunted. We started judging all those
juice stuff dudes you're on the show who were bullying
(20:04):
problem because they're bullying because they average people who go out.
Next thing, you know, laser would clothesline them as they
try to stick with those balls and like the little
basket or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
And by the way, they're not testing on that show.
I'm pretty sure I'm not saying they can't take whatever
they want. Jon Us. The point I'm bringing out we
(20:26):
put a negative connotation on it. You shouldn't have so
now we're like, oh, you don't want to be like
those guys and look like them, you mean, absolutely jacked
and just beating the hell out of normal. Joe's literally
like beating the hell out of them. Yeah, it's like
now people judge them for it. There you go. Yeah,
well listen, Oh that sucks. I know, to bring it back. Man.
(20:48):
They was whooping ass on that show. God they were.
That's the best part. It's like so many people rejoiced,
like just your average dude getting absolutely polish. It's you
remember when they were on the swinging rings and them
big strong mothersuckers would be just swinging on them joint
(21:10):
something that they'd be panicking the little weakling everyone's at
once a while they all starts taking that they just
dropped before the guy even get to him. What about
did they have like remember they like, yeah, just standing
(21:31):
on the two platforms. And the best part was in
the rare times that one of the gladiators lost, they
were so pissed started that was Nitro. That was Nitro.
He started throwing his helmet at him like he really
wanted to fight the dude. Yeah, fits like he really
had a rage moment. I remember it exactly. Yeah, he
(21:52):
definitely raged on him, like running with the bulls. I
mean the way they went up there. Bad stuff happens,
the way they wore the white they climbed up the walls.
It's kind of interesting. They let him get that hit start,
they climb up the walls and they're here. They come,
pull them on down, right on by, and pull them
(22:13):
right on down. Great view. Um, it is two pros
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(22:33):
the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, following their loss
to the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. He spoke with
the media yesterday about the status and situation of Joe Burrow,
his quarterback, trying to get a deal done and locking
him up long term. I think that starts now internally,
and so again, just wrapped up with the team today
(22:56):
and as you go forward you start talking about Joe
and and all the other players. Yeah, so better go
ahead and get that locked in. And if that starts internally,
if you're the Ravens, are you sitting there going hold
please please? Oh no, the second quarterback of the division
to reset the market, thic. Come on, man, you know
(23:16):
you know they're desperately trying to get it done. You
know Baltimore is trying to get it done before any
of the Shenanigans get going. You know they are. Yeah,
he ain't budget. It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, here's the
only thing I would say. I still think Burrows contract
(23:37):
as much as like another deal coming up, would help
make the case that you know, no one's gonna give
you a fully guaranteed five year deal like the Browns
gave Watson. You're gonna see Burrows deal eclipse Watson's in
total value. You'll see has be worth more than two
and thirty. Guarantee you that it will probably ballpark to
(23:58):
sixty like I would think will do when I said
this yesterday. They'll do a long term extension. So they'll
do probably a six year extension. It could be somewhere
north of two fifty and I would not be shocked
if you didn't see again. The escrow portion of this
is what makes it hard. You know that the ownership
group where the owner is gonna have to have that
(24:18):
cash set aside an escrow. So I don't know if
the guarantees will be quite as big for that reason,
because they're a family run team and it's it's just different.
But the total value of the contract is gonna be high.
And you better believe Joe Burrow is gonna be making
our average annual value of forty five to fifty million
a year, and well, you know, take it. But that
(24:43):
I don't know that Lamar jackson situation is gonna get
any clearer. I mean, they're two completely different players because
it's still not all the way guarantee. Yeah, it's not
on the way guaranteed. And even then, I just think
there's still injury concern. You know, I don't know that
Lamar Jackson's deal is gonna be as long, and I
don't know that it's gonna be as as high as
total value. Now they might say, yeah, we'll pay you
(25:04):
forty five million a year, but on a on a
four year deal as opposed to a six year deal
because we're a little concerned about, you know, what would
happen if you, you know, keep getting injured and you
can't play, and and how how's that going to impact
you as a player, if you do have a significant
lower body injury. Yeah, uh, it's It'll be interesting to
(25:27):
see how it plays out. And maybe maybe someone like
Joe Burrow getting a deal done, um, maybe helps Lamar
Jackson feel a little bit better about maybe not getting
fully guaranteed. You know, I don't ever want to speak
out of term for someone else and what they're trying
(25:50):
to get done, especially in the financial realm. But if
you really think about it, I mean, you don't have
to get too caught up into ring. It's fully guaranteed
if you're getting forty five some million dollars a year, Like,
I don't think that you have to get that blown
(26:11):
away or or that bullish on fully guaranteed if you're
getting that type of scratch yearly, is Lamar Jackson better
than Deshaun Watson. He's accomplished more because I mean he's
no longer the best quarterback in the division. That's Joe Burrow.
(26:32):
That's Joe Burrow, and that would have been a better question.
Do you think that he's a better quarterback than Joe Burrow?
No chance. And that's why you didn't even know he
has still because I'm just wondering if the Ravens look
at Lamar Jackson and go, maybe he's peaked. Maybe the
best of Lamar Jackson we've already seen. And that's sort
(26:53):
of where the splint. That's always a possibility, and that's
within their room and their rights to feel that way.
But that's that's a really risky approach to take, considering
how hard it is to find a quarterback. It just
it feels like you gotta pay him because that's where
you're at. You gotta do it. You can try and
(27:14):
go in another direction. But look, part of the reason
why John Harbaugh and and a lot of people there,
you know, are still in Baltimore. If you go back
to the season when Lamar Jackson got drafted, there was
a talk because Ozzy knewsoon was leaving and Joe Flacco
was in his final year, and there was talk that
John Harbor was going to be out too, that they
were going to amiclatebly all walk the other way. This
(27:36):
is gonna be one final run and they're going to
start the rebuild. And then Lamar got hot. That season
is rookie year, they made the playoffs, and the rest
was history. I just wonder how far apart they actually
are to where it would get to the point that
Baltimore just says, look, we've gotten the best we could
get out of him, and now we go in another direction.
It's just risky considering how hard it is to find
(27:57):
a franchise quarterback is super or to find a franchise guy,
and you do have a guy in Lamar Jackson. I mean,
there's no reason to downgrade him or to you know,
minimize what he represents to your team. He's definitely your
franchise quarterback. Question is can you figure out a way?
(28:18):
Because I think what we're learning about today's NFL, if
they don't want to pay it, they're they're going to
be more prone to go the opposite direction than to
be strong armed into doing something they don't want to do.
I think that that's become pretty pretty obvious and pretty
prevalent if you ask me, unless the franchise is in
(28:41):
a desperation situation, which you don't find that often. You know,
but I mean, you look at the New York Jets,
that's a possibility. You look at the the Houston Texans,
that's a possibility. Um, but the Houston Texans are drafting,
so that's not going to be a free agent situations.
So you gotta you have to understand the market you're in.
(29:03):
You have to understand your value, and within understanding your
value and going after what you feel feel is fear
fear market value, you still have to be very, very
sensible and the approach that that you're taking that doesn't
make you a sellout, doesn't make you dumb, doesn't make you,
you know, anything other than someone who's doing business at
a high level for high stakes. That sounds like for me.
(29:26):
But they're good for Cincinnati though. They get an Ohio guy.
Joe Burrow is going to be their quarterback for the
next what ten twelve years, is going to get a
monster deal, and they've got one of the best quarterbacks
in the league and they're gonna be in in contention
for the next decade plus. I mean, so if you're
a Bengals fan, I know, uh, I know, you know
Brandon being wanted to take shots at them. Hey, whatever
(29:49):
you want to call it. They had the number one
pick of the draft, they landed and they hit a
home run. And now Zach Taylor's you know, the conversation
is different with them. I was gonna go back to
kind of the on on the note at LaVar talked about.
I look at it and just think there are so
many talented quarterbacks who are coming out from the college
ranks that some of these teams probably feeling boldened to,
(30:11):
you know, basically say all right, if like, if you
don't want to agree to this, like, we'll go find
someone else that we can draft develop and we'll put
our stock into that. I mean, there's four guys right
now that are just being discussed in the first round
of this year's draft. There's two in the next year's
draft that people are probably looking at his franchise quarterbacks
(30:31):
in Caleb Williams and Drake May. I mean, so you're
talking about six guys right now. I don't know that
there's necessarily six spots or six teams. And you say, like,
are are really dead set on needing a quarterback this offseason?
And that's not including the fact that you've got Derek Carr,
Tom Brady, you know, Aaron Rodgers, and as you look
(30:52):
through some of the others that could be being moved around.
I mean it's there's not that many spots if you're
playing musical chairs of quarterbacks and the spots in the league, right,
So I just think as a team, to Lavarr's point
about them feeling more, you know, maybe rigid in their negotiations,
it's because, yeah, you can kind of turn around and
(31:14):
you know, go ahead and say, all right, like we're
just gonna go draft a guy next year. And now
you have to be in striking distance to do that,
or the the you after the right luck, or maybe
you have to give you up some of that draft
capital to do that. But I think there are and
there's there's so many young talented guys coming out now,
maybe more so than ever before, that really affords you
the chance to do that. It's two pros and a
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We are going to have another edition avoid you rather
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Let's turn it over to Edmund Garcia. All right, thank you, Jonas.
We start with news from the NFL where San Francisco
forda and his quarterback Brock Purty suffering a complete terror
of his owner collateral ligment in his right elbow. It's
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Tommy John surgery, may be available to return in six months.
(32:00):
Ex Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore hired for the same
job with the Los Angeles Chargers. In NBA games of note,
Luca Dodgers had fifty three points with the Mavericks and
there one eleven, one oh five one over the Pistons.
That's his fourth fifty point game so far this season.
Sear Is losing on to the Magic one nineteen to
one oh nine. It was the Nets knocking off the
Lakers to one oh four. Steph Curry thirty eight points
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and twelve assists for the Warriors, and there one twenty
win over the thunder Trailblazers top the Hawks behind Damian
Lillard's forty two points, and the Wizards beat the Spurs
in San Antonio one seven to one oh six. That
snapped a twenty two game losing skid four Washington in
San Antonio, their last road win over the Spurs was
in nine tom College Basketball Number ten, Texas Number eleven
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Baler seventy six to seventy one. Texas Tech was down
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Virginia wins at Syracuse sixty seven sixty two, just one
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In NHL News, the New York Islanders acquired Vancouver Canucks
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rather your random top sports or otherwise? Alright? Lead to lap?
What do we got? Guys? We were just talking about
Joe Burrow. I wanted to ask, would you rather have
Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow as your quarterback for the
(35:10):
next ten years? Patrick Mahomes, I think you'd say my
Homes based on what he's done so far? Right, Ah,
I mean you got I'm gonna go Joe Burrow. I
don't know that you can go wrong, by the way.
(35:30):
I love Joe, and I think you know we we've
seen what we've seen Patrick Mahomes do has been historical.
I don't know that we've ever seen a quarterback like this.
Was one different from y'all just wanted this question. If
you put Burrow in Kansas City, is there a similar result,
(35:53):
I mean the same as mahomes. Yes, it might be more.
Oh you think it would have more than one? Who
of all? He might have more? You might I don't know.
I don't know. I'll take I'll take my home. I mean,
I'll take what's in hand. I mean, definitely take the
bird in hand. But I mean you just put burrow
and arrowhead. I mean they did call it burrow hit.
(36:18):
That was That was Dave Chappelle though, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah,
it fellas. Would you rather have a maid or a chef? Chef?
A maid? A maid? I'm little bar Yeah. By the way,
what doesn't make sense about Jonas? And his answer is
(36:38):
you don't eat? Jonas? What what would use the chef for? Buddy?
Maybe you don't eat? Maybe, uh, maybe it'd changed my life,
you know, maybe the chef would come in and show
me a new world. You know. I look like, here's
what you would need the maid for to clean all
those white underwhether you've got skin marks in for that's
(36:58):
what you're on top. The way, berto you ever noticed
is always white underwear. You notice that Berto, that's a
matter to color. It's still same skip mark. Thank you, hey,
but those are your underwear, not mine, so you're calling
yourself first. I learned my lesser. I learned my lesson.
I hit my early twenties, and after a few nights
of boozing, I realized, Yeah, the white aisle doesn't work
(37:20):
for me anymore. In more ways of the one fellas,
would you rather never have a hot meal again or
never have a cold drink again? I'd rather never have
a cold drink. Yeah, I'd rather never have a cold
drink too. Although that's tough. That is a tough one
because I am like love with a cold drink is
(37:42):
what's room temperature considered? That's not cold temperature is acceptable?
That I can have room temperature, I would. I love
hot meals. Yeah, I'd rather deal with a lukewarm or
room temperature drink than a beverage. Then do you prefer
cold water or room cold? Hate it? Here's the problem.
(38:06):
You couldn't have a nice cold beer. Yeah, yeah, you're
long islands, Yeah, they were just they don't they don't
hit the suck them down faster. It just doesn't hit
the same no, they would not taste as good. But
with that being said, I'd rather do that than have
a cold meal every single day because you imagine ordering
(38:27):
a pizza and you just it's got to be cold.
Cold pizzas like cold pizzas. Yeah, But the problem is
the only reason cold pizza is good is because it
was once hot. So everything's cooked, so you just get dope.
They didn't say anything about that, you still gotta cook it.
So are you saying that it's not even like you
gotta eat cold food as in like cold cuts and
(38:48):
stuff like you have leftovers, cold cuts, yeah, all that stuff.
If I can eat leftovers that are cold every single day,
I might take the cold. By the way, I asked
this question of Brady we're having the conversation about it,
is chicken palm the best leftover food of all time?
(39:11):
Because the next day, when you heat up chicken palm
in the microwave, it is outstanding. Ribs are what really, man,
because there's no breading or anything like that, so when
you heat them up, it's like you're all the way good.
I ain't gonna lie to you. By the way, I
(39:31):
got some Tomali's from one of my families that one
of the kids that I coached his grandma made me
some Tomali's and you can have them bad boys frozen
for literally forever and pull them bad boys out and
they are still going to be money when you heat
him up there, So to Molly's might be how on
(39:54):
that list. I had me some green ones the other
day and I thought about Burdo. I was gonna send
you a uh a message, but it's messed up. Berno.
I was like, I was like, man, and I need
I need Burno. Why I've been begging Burdo Burno telling
me I gotta pay him six to ten thousand dollars
for a runout Tomali's lavarrez. Berno, how much if I
(40:16):
want you to make me some Tamali's and thousand dollars,
actually will pay it. But go ahead, there we go.
Would you rather lose your sense of smell or taste?
Smell and I can actually do this show on comfort
(40:37):
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