September 14, 2023 • 37 mins
The lack of preseason play from starters led to sloppy play in week 1. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer talks about the Jets plans at QB going forward. Plus, a TNF Preview on Over/Unders.
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been two conversations that have popped up. We are one
week into the NFL season, and there's the field versus
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turf discussion, which we could have later on, and then
there's also this one about how certain teams looked week
one and whether or not it was rushed from not
participating in the preseason. And so then the question becomes,
all right, who should play in the preseason? Should more
guys get some more reps? To me, it feels like
this is a depends on the player, maybe depends on
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the team, and maybe it's up to the coaches to
identify that. But you can't deny that some teams looked
absolutely awful. Week one.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It looks sloppy.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I mean, the operations, ball security, it just it looks sloppy,
looked out of sync. And I know whether played a
factor in some there's a bunch of games with potential
weather or whether that did impact the game Cleveland Cincinnati
in particular, but I think there's I mean, Nick Sirianni
came out and said it as we talked about the
Thursday night game tonight, even though the Eagles gotta win,
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he thought they came out and they didn't look as
you know, cleaning their operations and how they played, and
he's got to rethink that. And look, they have, you know,
two new coordinators. I would have thought you would have
saw more of more play from them the preseason for
that reason alone. But I think you're gonna have to
revisit it for a number of reasons. I don't think
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it's just how the style of play went. There's some
thought that as we as we look at the Aaron
Rodgers injury, and everyone wants to blame it on the turf,
which I'll be honest with you, if you know, if
he's not getting hit by Leonard Floyd, that injury is
not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So to me, that's not that's not a turf injury.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Now you might say, well, if it was grass, maybe
his foot would have I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The guy landed on.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Top of him of them, so it doesn't matter if
it was grass or turf. It's it's probably that injury
is probably taking place. What I do know is this,
guys are expected after not really ramping up to the
intensity that a regular season game you know, really calls for,
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are going from a practice to that, and it's really different,
Like the one one thing I can say from my
rookie year to being able to play through through all
of it, Like there are different speeds and intensities to it.
Preseason is a higher Like playing in a preseason game
is much more intense than in practice. It just is
there's cutthrow guys out there flying around trying to just
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you know, make a roster at that point, and it's
it's a much greater intensity. So it prepares your body
for that. If you're a quarterback, you're getting hit. You
don't have a red jersey on regular season you know,
amps up from there. Postseason amps up from there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Like that.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That's just the intensity and speed of all of it.
And so when you're basically taking a jump from practice
and you're kind of you know, I guess you'd say
transitioning from one of those gears from first to third,
first to fourth, it's it's a little different. Like on
your body takes a little more to get going right,
the RPMs takes a little slower to ramp them up.
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And I think that plays a role in a lot
of soft tissue injuries as well. And so even from
an injury standpoint, it might sound crazy because people are like,
what are you talking about. If you're playing a preseason game,
you have a chance of getting hurt, Yeah, you do.
But if you're practicing football, you have a chance of
getting hurt, like we've heard, We've we've seen guys who
went down and practice this training camp, not even a game.
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It's football. You always run that risk. I mean, you
tell me what would be a better situation. Aaron Rodger
is playing you know, four play. I mean he might
be he might be the one or one of few
who are excluded from it because you've paid him and
they mean so much to your team, where you don't
want to subject them to it, but a lot of
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other guys that should probably be playing just to get
their bodies ready for what's going to be a long
seventeen game season. I think there's a lot of data
too that backs that up in regards to you know,
sports performance in training too. For a lot of teams
that played some of their starters early on.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I think you got to look at the way they
practice as well. The schedule of how how physical, how
the lack of physicality you know, and practices has changed
dramatically and drastically also. I mean it's one thing to say, Okay,
we're not going to play our starters at the risk
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of them getting injured in an insignificant game. We have
framed preseason as a time for guys to fight for
their jobs, and that's basically what preseason is for. I
always thought preseason was guys playing themselves back into shape.
That's what I thought it was for first game. You
get out there, you take one or two one or
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two series in the first preseason game as starters, so
that you can feel like you're about to die and
pass out from from a drive taking place, whether you're
on offense or on defense, you get maybe one more
drive in there, and then you get out of there.
Second game, you do maybe one series or two series.
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You know, you get out of their third game. You
play that third preseason game like it's a real game,
and then maybe you get out in the fourth quarter,
but you you take your reps in the third game
as if it is a real even the preparation for
the game is more of a game type of approach.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Fourth the last, the last preseason game. It was really
generally for those guys, like basically when the when the
starters weren't playing to get in game condition, that was
when you're looking at who who you're going to hire,
who's going to make the roster, and and so on
and so forth, get your film for as as an
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audition for other teams, whatever it may be. It's not
that anymore. And I've been saying that for a while now.
I know we've had this debate since we've started doing
the show as well. Is to play the starter or
not to play the starter? That is the question. Like
we've had this debate before.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It was a Shakespeare Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean I just figured and you know, Lulu everything
that that Aaron Rodgers, has you say it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
More of like a play like a thespian voice show?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Are uh?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
As we have this conversation about what should take place
or not take place within the parameters of the National
Football League, the question that continues to present itself to
the is well, do you play the starters or do
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you not play the starters?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
To play.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Or not to play? That is the question.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fantastic, thank you, but but that is to me, I
feel like that may have gotten lost in all of this,
is that, as as you mentioned Q, you cannot recreate
game reps anywhere else but in a game. And I
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said this, I may mention of this as it applied
to college as well. Seeing these early games of big
matchups take place between teams, you're not necessarily you're benefiting
from the entertainment aspect of it. You're not benefiting from
getting the best from each team against one another this
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early in the season.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Have you guys been around people, not just in football,
but in any professional environment that think that they're too
good for the prep or the practice that goes into
being good. That oh I don't need that, you know,
I can to me that this is you know, this
is where you take inventory on what it is like,
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what you really are, because I've always felt more comfortable. Look,
I could probably do a show without prepping. I don't
want to do a show without prepping. To me, I
want to be able to feel like I've done the
work to get me compared to perform at a better
level or at a higher level. And I just wonder
if there's maybe some players or coaches who aren't recognizing
players that do need those reps because they're not good
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enough just to go out there with no practice like
Nick Bosa. Different story. That guy went out there, wasn't
in camp the entire time, and they were never worried
about it. But Nick Bosa is a rarity. Maybe there's
more guys who need to be accountable for what they
need to get ready for games.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I can promise you this, Nick Bosa was working out
while he wasn't in camp. He was training while he
wasn't in camp like that. Dude doesn't look like that,
doesn't play like that hasn't accomplished as much as he
has if he's.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Not preparing himself.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I've never seen anyone be able to excel without, you know,
going through a process and having some sort of preparation
right now, they might be uber talented, we're not working
as hard as others. That's that's true in some cases.
Bo I've personally never dealt with a player who didn't
have some sort of process the way he went about
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preparing to go play and whether I was practice, you know,
working out with the running and whatever it was. And
usually the best that I'd ever been around. They were
always some of the hardest workers. There was always some
of the most focused, most detailed in what they were
doing and what they wanted to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'll just say, there have been guys that just aren't
practice guys. They're just not practice guys. I was just
telling my son, was having this conversation with my son
the other day. You can sit there and be like, what, Dad,
he doesn't do as well as me in practice. He
doesn't You know this guy daa die this or that,
And I say, you know, football culture, you gotta understand
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there's sometimes there's there's practice squad, all Americans, all pros,
and they go into the game and they disappear. You
don't see what you see in practice. Then sometimes you
have guys that aren't practice guys at all and they
look like they shouldn't even be on the team, and
then the lights come up and their game goes up
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all the way up. And it's unexplainable the phenomenon of
a guy that just isn't into practicing and can go
turn it on in the game, or a guy that
practices like the best football player in the world, but
it doesn't translate to the game. It's just a weird thing.
But as far as preparation is concerned, you can't cheat
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being in game condition for a game, you can't cheat it.
So regardless of whatever your process may be or how
you get there, in order for you to be at
the level where you can compete and be effective and
actually earn your way onto the field, you have to
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have some semblance of being prepared to play, because you
have to earn the trust of those coaches to put
your ass on the field to begin with. And if
you go out there and you're dead after one play
and you got to come out and you're tapping your head,
that that act will run short. It'll run drive very quickly.
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So if you're a guy that doesn't like the practice,
you're still a guy that's probably doing everything that it
takes to make sure you're staying in the type of
condition where when you get your opportunity and you get
out there, you're doing what it is that needs to
be done. That's just the law of it. You know,
that's just the law of it. And once you've proven that,
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then you get the benefit of the doubt. Like, oh,
this player here, like you know that, Like the reports
that were coming out that Davante Adams doesn't like the practice. Okay, well,
I've seen enough of Davante Adams in the game where
I say, okay, right, But now you see somebody like
Kyler Murray, Like Kyler Murray doesn't like the practice. Kyler
Murray isn't out there. And the way you're gonna say,
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you might, I don't know, like I might question it,
like he might eat that work. He might need to
see it. Zach Wilson, Now he doesn't practice like well,
he needs that work, he needs to see it. I
think the same thing about pretty much most of the league.
These guys need to get out and see see it
from real games, game reps. I just don't this whole
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new way of doing the preseason and never playing any
of your starters the entire preseason. I'm not attributing that
to Aaron Rodgers' injury. I will say I will attribute
some of these injuries to them not their bodies, not
being game ready, game rep ready, and getting into a game.
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I will attribute some of the sloppy play and the
mistakes that are made to not being game ready, game
rep ready. I will attribute it to that, because you
gotta do it in order to improve at it. If
you're not doing it, then at some point you have
to go through the acclamation process of what it feels
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like to play game reps for four quarters. For those
out here who have never played game reps at a
high level for four quarters, that s is hard. It's hard,
it's not easy. So that's that's something to take into
consideration that, Yeah, you might have to reconsider how preseason
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is being approached.
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find out whether or not there will be a major move.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
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Speaker 2 (15:48):
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
We're gonna have some over unders for you coming up
in about twenty minutes from now. But right now we
turn it over to a Thursday tradition. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get them on
Twitter or x or whatever the hell they're calling it
now at Albert Breer. Al what's happening? Good morning? Do you?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
What's happening? Guys?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Good morning? All right, So let's get right to the
biggest story in the NFL thus far this season, the
Aaron Rodgers injury. What's the planet quarterback? What are you hearing?
Are they reaching out to veterans. Who's most likely to
come in? Are they just going to rock with Zach
Wilson and Tim Boyle.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well, they're gonna.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I think they will add a veteran backup of some sort.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
You know, Joe.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Douglas at GM there has some connections to a couple
of guys who are available. Nick Foles, he's with him
at phil Ladelphia. Carson Wentz would be another one. But
you know, I know that the idea for at least
right now is to put a United Front up behind
Zach Wilson and give him some runway and see what
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he can make of the next couple of months, you know.
And I think it's sort of an acknowledgment that there's
not a better option out there right now.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
It's also I think sort of where they were at,
you know, when they when they went into this whole thing,
and that they didn't think Zach Wilson was completely a
lost cause. And I can remember talking to Robert Sala
about this a few times and that he felt like
Zach Wilson just needed to have the pause button hit
on his career and he needed things to slow down
a little bit, And they would have kept Zach Wilson
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behind Roger.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
This is the standard standard bersh Man. It's like every
single week.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Hey, can we reconnect with the leader labs reconnecting with that?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Okay, before Brew comes on, we start taking a poll
and you're like a bet of if Brew a bad.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Connection, I think he's got one more cut out in him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's got one more in him, I think so on
this one. Sure if it's at one and a half,
are we taking over under.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
It's like does every other radio interview he does have
this issue?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's just uwesome. Well's so we could get Honestly, I
don't think it's actually real. I think this is now
part of a bit. This is it's now like Albert's
Albert CROs bit, his trademark. You know, it's like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Something gets a little controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
He's like, yeah, it's kind of like his bat flip.
You know everybody's got that. You know that's his Albert
Briers bat flip.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Ab Right here you go, AB's back.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I feel like, you guys think I can have a
voice that's like staticky or whatever for you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Does happen on any other radio interview.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
I have had?
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, there's another radio station that I work quite a
bit with that. Uh my phone is a bit for
them too.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I think it's the town I live in.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Damn Nantucket man, who'll get you every time.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
But what I was trying to say about.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
That, so you're a believer in Zach Wilson, you think
it's going to be a pro bowler, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, what I'm saying is the Jets.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
The Jets didn't think there was something there to continue
to develop. They wouldn't have they wouldn't have held onto him.
I don't think it would have been good for him.
It wouldn't have been good for them based on where
he was drafted. But they really did feel like the
best thing for the team was let's go get Aaron
Rodgers because the opportunity is obviously out there to do that,
and then let's see if hitting the reset button and
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pausing and slowing things down a little bit with Zach
Wilson and developed developing him behind Aaron Rodgers would work better.
And I don't think they felt like it was a
sure thing that it was gonna work out over time,
But like they did at least want to give it,
give that a shot.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Obviously because of the injury, everything's in fast forward it
a little bit. But I know they felt like he
made some progress to the point where he's their best
option right now.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Here's the thing is, I'm not buying any of that.
So like Robert Sawah that jet I. They can say
whatever they want. The reality is they made him. He
was the number two overall pick. They were popcumitted. Yeah,
and so they're trying to save face with all this
Joe Douglas. You know, they're all trying to save face.
That's fine. I think in regards to Zach Wilson and
LaVar and I kind of you touched on this earlier,
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like this gonna be a good thing. This might be
the best thing that happened to him, because either he's
gonna play better, he's he's going to have grown and matured,
which you'd hope. So with another offseason, another preseason, Aaron
Rodgers helping out, and this roster, you know, continuing.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
To grow around the quarterback position too. So either he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
He's gonna swim or he's gonna sing and and then
they can definitively move on because everything you just said
right there, Albert, doesn't make sense. If Rogers is going
to play for two or three years, and and you've
got Wilson a contract where it have to pick up
a fifth year option, so what are they gonna extend them?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Brady Is said they didn't know. They didn't know if
Rogers now he says he's going to play two years.
That's what he said to them when he when he
that's there.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Two years.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Maybe you don't know, but you don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I sure like this guy changes.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
This guy changes his mind every five minutes.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
So like, okay, so so hold on, hold on there,
So so hold on, let's play this out. Let's say
Rogers had stayed healthy, Wilson didn't play it all this year.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
They got to make a decision on the fifth year option.
They're picking it up or not?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Probably not because it's okay.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
So then so then Rogers decides to come back for
another year, right because he's contracted to and the guarantees
and so forth. And then then he's gonna hit free
agency because he because if assuming Wilson wasn't going to play,
he becomes a free agent. So you understand what there's
what I understand, what can you trade him.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And get value? You trade him and get value.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
But what sort of value are you going to get
for him at this point?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I mean I would say that something is better than nothing,
Like there's like, hey, you know, you don't go broke
taking a profit.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Something's better nothing?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Yeah, I mean like, but but I mean, just is
it worth like pawning them off for a fourth round pick?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Like you think that there's still a glimmer.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Of hope that you can develop him for the net,
like behind Aaron Rodgers for a year or two, you
can develop him and maybe you get a different player
in the back end.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I mean, look, I think I think you would be
better off being somewhere else where.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
He's going to get a lot more reps.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I don't think you get development of this level from practice.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm team Q.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Okay, but all right, so I just look like I
just think a huge part of this is context to Brady, right,
And it's like when you draft the guy's second overall
and you're rebuilding with the Jets were two years ago.
That's different than what they're going to be asking him
to do now, Like, and I think what they're going
to be asking him to do now is much different.
So the context that he's coming into this whole situation
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is a lot different. And like, I just like I
think the idea that like the idea that he would
learn from Aaron Rodgers and he gets to develop behind
Aaron Rodgers and there was no pressure on him this offseason,
and like he could work on himself this offseason and
and all of it wasn't on him this offseason. I think,
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I know people in that building felt like a benefit
or over the last four.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Or five Albert.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I know, I know now, but if you have a better.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Did we say, like, hey, he needs to take a
pause on his career.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Okay, but like let's say, let's say let's say what
what I just talked about the last five or six months.
Let's say that that caused him to take a step
in his development or two steps in his development.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Just great them.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Right, And now you're asking now, but but now, but
now he's walking onto this. Now you're asking now when
he goes back into the game, you're asking a whole
lot less of him because your expectation of him isn't
as high. So you're gonna lean on Breese Hall and
Dalvin Cook and that you can do.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
A lot more. You're gonna run the football, you play
great defense.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's what it sounds like. That's exact same formula had
last the exact same form I'm with you, but I
know what.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
They lost that formula when brisawt, when Breshall got hurt.
They lost that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Formula the degree.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
So like, I just think that the context of what
you're putting him into is different now.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
So like let's see how that goes, you.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Know, And to me, it's look, I mean if there
was if Matthew Stafford was available, I think they would
look at that. There's nothing like that available right now?
Is the problem?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know, not even some of these other veteran guys
that like maybe you're heading into the last.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Year they're going to be with those teams, None of
these teams one of part ways, Like.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Who'd you bring up?
Speaker 7 (25:07):
I'm here, Like Bryan Tannehill, I mean you could make
that phone call, Like I think that that might make
some sense to make that phone call, but I mean,
how how much further does that get you? Are you
competing for a championship.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Then I would I would feel a lot more confident.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Ryan Tannehill coming there as my quarterback than I would
be with the scenario right.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, because because here, here's here's the unfortunate thing. Here's
here's unfortunate thing that you have.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
The second that Wilson goes in and plays and it
looks anything like last year, the fan base turns on
him again. Yeah, because they because you've already risen their
expectations and their excitement with Rogers and now and look,
it was a collective like, oh no, we've got to
go back to.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
This the locker room because and I'm with you on that.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
The locker room could quote on you too, you know
what I mean, like like, I'm with you on that,
and I just but I do think, like, look, Greig,
part of the problem is timing, too, And I think
that this is a major piece of it. If we
were in week seven or week eight and close to
the trade deadline and you had teams out there, like
let's say at that point the Titans are two and five.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Right now, we're.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Talking about something that's a little bit different. And I
think that that's where the timing sets up here, where
you can give Zack Wilson a month, you can give
him six weeks and I.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Don't I don't think he has that long.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He doesn't have that long.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You've got a bye week week six.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You've got to have someone in there that if like
you want him to take over for Zach Wilson, that's
what you're aiming for.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You how to do it? Now?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
You give Zach Wilson a week five and if he
doesn't look like he's going to be the guy, you
better have someone in there that's ready to go, that
gets two weeks to prepare for that week seven game.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Yeah, And so what I'm what I'm saying, Brady is like,
right now, you're not going to have a lot of
veteran quarterbacks that are going to be a bit like
Mike Rabel's not trading Ryan Tannehill right now, O day,
Matt Ryan, Mike Brabel might trade him. Mike Brabel might
trade him if he's one and four, right, like sound that,
But what.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
About Matt Ryan?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
What about Matt Ryan?
Speaker 7 (27:08):
So that's an interesting name, Like so I think I
think that one, like to me is different than like
a Philip Rivers or Tom Brady hail Mary because Matt
Ryan played last year and I know he has to
completely shut the door I'm playing.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So that would be.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
One that I would definitely look at and say, I
would look at that, and I would say, let's bring
Matt Ryan in here as the backup for now, right,
and let's see how Zach Wilson handles that. And if
he doesn't handle that, well, then we've got our starter.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
So I think that that sort of scenario could make
some sense. But I mean, as far as making a
trade right now, I would I could see where you
would want to wait a month, six weeks to see
what teams sink to the bottom of the standings, what
quarterbacks might be available, because I think maybe the worst
thing you could do is trade at that for something
that's just blah right now, when in October there could
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be something better available. Because team X, Y or Z
fell off the map.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Sure, hashtag team Breer. Hashtag team no no, no, no no,
we won that. That's we won that. That's a ten
eight for Breer. Easy to score.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Therein because my phone actually held up.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
My phone is the.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Winner because your phone did hold out? Did yeah? Hold?
Who knew Albert before I let you go? The result
this weekend? Poor performance that surprised you the most a
team that just looked awful. That surprised you the most.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I know one Cincinnati, maybe Cincinnati. I I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Maybe I expected too much, but I mean that was
and I don't I think it's gonna be fine. Like
I think that winning the Super Bowl. I'm not going
to back off of that. Just I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Don't know if there's any gaming quality of that game.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah, damn uh oh ab he has to get fired
up reception.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Damn it, jinks myself.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah you did, you did all right?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Jonas was right there.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I said one morning, Well, listen, that's on Jonas for
asking that last question. That's what it really alternate Wilson
like and decision making. It was just a bad.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Decision, honestly, honestly, I'll follow in the sword and it's
not me. I tried to do this while I was
dropping my kid off at school. So like that's probably
the real problem.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I think.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
For some reason, for some reason, yeah, he was tested too.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
He has like he was like me and mugging me.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
The whole time.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
But I uh, I like, I like it's my fault
because for some reason, just with you guys, I got
to be in like a stationary position for this to
work out, because usually if I'm like sitting on my porch,
it's just fine.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, Well, you know when you're in your car and
your car is moving, you know, the results can can vary.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
The result.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
The results of your reception can can vary at times, Albert.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
So I'm telling you that's why I think it's the
town I live in.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, so where do you live again? What's your home address?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Nantucket, Nantucky? Yeah, he's in the Estates.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Ohio state.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is traveling a Notre Dame soon. Hey, Albert, we appreciate it.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB, and we'll do it again next week.
All right, all right, guys, my guy al for Brier. There,
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Speaker 4 (32:06):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I have been losing.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You know you're a lion low life gamely genuine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's over under alight lead to lap first that we
do last week, Well, it was a close one last week,
even though no one did that.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Well, well, we had uh at this point last week
we Travis Kelcey was just about starting his workouts. We
hadn't figured out yet whether or not he was going
to play, so we had an over under on plays
or snaps taken by Travis kelce It was at a half.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Brady had taken the over.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Jonas LaVar, you guys took the under, which of course
you won, but Brady, you did win the under.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
On Aiden Hutchinson sex at a half, that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Was under he they were a costing him for four quarters. Yeah,
so that's I mean, clearly, that's an asterisk right there.
On Hayden Hutchinson sacks in that spot. So I've been bored.
I don't think we would count that for Brady, right,
that's that counts. That counts.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
But Jonas and LeVar, you guys tied with two three
because you had the under on the game total, which
was at fifty three. Of course, the Lines won that
game twenty one to twenty. Week one is in the books.
You guys have a you guys being Jonas and LeVar
have a one point lead on you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
There, Brady, All right, here we go.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So now we start week? Yeah, come on, we've got
vikings Eddy game total.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Forty nine over under. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Where are you there?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We got?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I thought party was just upset because you had lost
last week, or maybe that or Albert Briers phone's allergic.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Oh no, it's not allergic. We'll clean up in the podcast.
Please sell good? Maybe seems to Mark. Is Brady there?
Speaker 11 (34:04):
I guess, I guess, I guess we're there. I mean,
damn you what to the body? Or he's not getting
off the stool. Damn what if we found under?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What did? Him and Albert bren are still arguing on
the phone right now. He's like, you know what's going on?
He was not finished with. Hey, we didn't even get
to have State named McCord their quarterback. All right, so,
uh so what do we want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Move it?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
I guess we're just gonna move along here.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We gotta well, we can't do it without him.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
We'll revisit it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, well we come back to over under his next
hour maybe and uh and just get into uh yeah,
let's come back to over unders. Let's let's do it
next hour. Yeah. We we can't do it at him. Yeah,
we could do over because we were going to do
in or out right, Well yeah, I mean, but you know,
we'll do it over under his next out.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
The show is over.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Goodbye. We gotta fight out. What's going on here? Somebody check?
It's that fallen Maybe it's at Vegas.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Chuck, get up.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We got him, We got him, We got one. Sorry, okay,
come on go sorry, okay, all right, So catch Brady
up on the picture we've done so far, le.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Brady, we just started.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We have the game total game over under at forty
nine under.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Okay, under, I'm falling and.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I moving on on over unders. We've got Kirk Cousin
passing touchdowns at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Sam was talking on here say that again.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Kirk Cousins passing touchdowns one and a half.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm gonna take the over. Under.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I'm gonna take the over. I'm a fellows.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Jalen Hurts passing and rushing yards combined three one and
a half.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'm gonna take that over. I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Do they know the signals again this week? That could
be a problem.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Man, take the under.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Receiving yards for Justin Jefferson is at ninety three and
a half.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Over take the over over, Yeah, I'll take the over.
He he had some comments that he was.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Curious slaves matched up well with him.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, but but Justin Jefferson made note of that, and
he's keeping receipts. Okay, he didn't like how that went
last year.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
We take the over.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, take the over me the overly.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
Lastly sacks for Jalen Carter tonight out of half what
Sega sacks sacks?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
No, Garrett Bradbury, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Gonna take Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I might take the over on that one too.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, but it's kind of unfair that Philadelphia ended up
with Jandon Carter. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I just I love the fact they're trying to build
like the Georgia in the NFL. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Is fun.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
He's a big dude. But that is this week's edition
of over Others. He on a Fox Sports Well.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I mean we could have drugged that out a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, we drug it out a little bit. We did
a little earlier on. I mean we were, you know, bragging,
Lebar and I were bragging about tying for week one. Yeah, everyone, no,
you you Yeah, that's all right. It's always this week
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been two conversations that have popped up. We are one
week into the NFL season, and there's the field versus
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turf discussion, which we could have later on, and then
there's also this one about how certain teams looked week
one and whether or not it was rushed from not
participating in the preseason. And so then the question becomes,
all right, who should play in the preseason? Should more
guys get some more reps? To me, it feels like
this is a depends on the player, maybe depends on
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the team, and maybe it's up to the coaches to
identify that. But you can't deny that some teams looked
absolutely awful. Week one.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It looks sloppy.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I mean, the operations, ball security, it just it looks sloppy,
looked out of sync. And I know whether played a
factor in some there's a bunch of games with potential
weather or whether that did impact the game Cleveland Cincinnati
in particular, but I think there's I mean, Nick Sirianni
came out and said it as we talked about the
Thursday night game tonight, even though the Eagles gotta win,
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he thought they came out and they didn't look as
you know, cleaning their operations and how they played, and
he's got to rethink that. And look, they have, you know,
two new coordinators. I would have thought you would have
saw more of more play from them the preseason for
that reason alone. But I think you're gonna have to
revisit it for a number of reasons. I don't think
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it's just how the style of play went. There's some
thought that as we as we look at the Aaron
Rodgers injury, and everyone wants to blame it on the turf,
which I'll be honest with you, if you know, if
he's not getting hit by Leonard Floyd, that injury is
not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So to me, that's not that's not a turf injury.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Now you might say, well, if it was grass, maybe
his foot would have I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The guy landed on.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Top of him of them, so it doesn't matter if
it was grass or turf. It's it's probably that injury
is probably taking place. What I do know is this,
guys are expected after not really ramping up to the
intensity that a regular season game you know, really calls for,
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are going from a practice to that, and it's really different,
Like the one one thing I can say from my
rookie year to being able to play through through all
of it, Like there are different speeds and intensities to it.
Preseason is a higher Like playing in a preseason game
is much more intense than in practice. It just is
there's cutthrow guys out there flying around trying to just
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you know, make a roster at that point, and it's
it's a much greater intensity. So it prepares your body
for that. If you're a quarterback, you're getting hit. You
don't have a red jersey on regular season you know,
amps up from there. Postseason amps up from there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Like that.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That's just the intensity and speed of all of it.
And so when you're basically taking a jump from practice
and you're kind of you know, I guess you'd say
transitioning from one of those gears from first to third,
first to fourth, it's it's a little different. Like on
your body takes a little more to get going right,
the RPMs takes a little slower to ramp them up.
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And I think that plays a role in a lot
of soft tissue injuries as well. And so even from
an injury standpoint, it might sound crazy because people are like,
what are you talking about. If you're playing a preseason game,
you have a chance of getting hurt, Yeah, you do.
But if you're practicing football, you have a chance of
getting hurt, like we've heard, We've we've seen guys who
went down and practice this training camp, not even a game.
(05:11):
It's football. You always run that risk. I mean, you
tell me what would be a better situation. Aaron Rodger
is playing you know, four play. I mean he might
be he might be the one or one of few
who are excluded from it because you've paid him and
they mean so much to your team, where you don't
want to subject them to it, but a lot of
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other guys that should probably be playing just to get
their bodies ready for what's going to be a long
seventeen game season. I think there's a lot of data
too that backs that up in regards to you know,
sports performance in training too. For a lot of teams
that played some of their starters early on.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I think you got to look at the way they
practice as well. The schedule of how how physical, how
the lack of physicality you know, and practices has changed
dramatically and drastically also. I mean it's one thing to say, Okay,
we're not going to play our starters at the risk
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of them getting injured in an insignificant game. We have
framed preseason as a time for guys to fight for
their jobs, and that's basically what preseason is for. I
always thought preseason was guys playing themselves back into shape.
That's what I thought it was for first game. You
get out there, you take one or two one or
(06:31):
two series in the first preseason game as starters, so
that you can feel like you're about to die and
pass out from from a drive taking place, whether you're
on offense or on defense, you get maybe one more
drive in there, and then you get out of there.
Second game, you do maybe one series or two series.
(06:52):
You know, you get out of their third game. You
play that third preseason game like it's a real game,
and then maybe you get out in the fourth quarter,
but you you take your reps in the third game
as if it is a real even the preparation for
the game is more of a game type of approach.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Fourth the last, the last preseason game. It was really
generally for those guys, like basically when the when the
starters weren't playing to get in game condition, that was
when you're looking at who who you're going to hire,
who's going to make the roster, and and so on
and so forth, get your film for as as an
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audition for other teams, whatever it may be. It's not
that anymore. And I've been saying that for a while now.
I know we've had this debate since we've started doing
the show as well. Is to play the starter or
not to play the starter? That is the question. Like
we've had this debate before.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It was a Shakespeare Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean I just figured and you know, Lulu everything
that that Aaron Rodgers, has you say it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
More of like a play like a thespian voice show?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Are uh?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
As we have this conversation about what should take place
or not take place within the parameters of the National
Football League, the question that continues to present itself to
the is well, do you play the starters or do
(08:26):
you not play the starters?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
To play.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Or not to play? That is the question.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fantastic, thank you, but but that is to me, I
feel like that may have gotten lost in all of this,
is that, as as you mentioned Q, you cannot recreate
game reps anywhere else but in a game. And I
(09:01):
said this, I may mention of this as it applied
to college as well. Seeing these early games of big
matchups take place between teams, you're not necessarily you're benefiting
from the entertainment aspect of it. You're not benefiting from
getting the best from each team against one another this
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early in the season.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Have you guys been around people, not just in football,
but in any professional environment that think that they're too
good for the prep or the practice that goes into
being good. That oh I don't need that, you know,
I can to me that this is you know, this
is where you take inventory on what it is like,
(09:48):
what you really are, because I've always felt more comfortable. Look,
I could probably do a show without prepping. I don't
want to do a show without prepping. To me, I
want to be able to feel like I've done the
work to get me compared to perform at a better
level or at a higher level. And I just wonder
if there's maybe some players or coaches who aren't recognizing
players that do need those reps because they're not good
(10:12):
enough just to go out there with no practice like
Nick Bosa. Different story. That guy went out there, wasn't
in camp the entire time, and they were never worried
about it. But Nick Bosa is a rarity. Maybe there's
more guys who need to be accountable for what they
need to get ready for games.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I can promise you this, Nick Bosa was working out
while he wasn't in camp. He was training while he
wasn't in camp like that. Dude doesn't look like that,
doesn't play like that hasn't accomplished as much as he
has if he's.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Not preparing himself.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I've never seen anyone be able to excel without, you know,
going through a process and having some sort of preparation
right now, they might be uber talented, we're not working
as hard as others. That's that's true in some cases.
Bo I've personally never dealt with a player who didn't
have some sort of process the way he went about
(11:00):
preparing to go play and whether I was practice, you know,
working out with the running and whatever it was. And
usually the best that I'd ever been around. They were
always some of the hardest workers. There was always some
of the most focused, most detailed in what they were
doing and what they wanted to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'll just say, there have been guys that just aren't
practice guys. They're just not practice guys. I was just
telling my son, was having this conversation with my son
the other day. You can sit there and be like, what, Dad,
he doesn't do as well as me in practice. He
doesn't You know this guy daa die this or that,
And I say, you know, football culture, you gotta understand
(11:42):
there's sometimes there's there's practice squad, all Americans, all pros,
and they go into the game and they disappear. You
don't see what you see in practice. Then sometimes you
have guys that aren't practice guys at all and they
look like they shouldn't even be on the team, and
then the lights come up and their game goes up
(12:05):
all the way up. And it's unexplainable the phenomenon of
a guy that just isn't into practicing and can go
turn it on in the game, or a guy that
practices like the best football player in the world, but
it doesn't translate to the game. It's just a weird thing.
But as far as preparation is concerned, you can't cheat
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being in game condition for a game, you can't cheat it.
So regardless of whatever your process may be or how
you get there, in order for you to be at
the level where you can compete and be effective and
actually earn your way onto the field, you have to
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have some semblance of being prepared to play, because you
have to earn the trust of those coaches to put
your ass on the field to begin with. And if
you go out there and you're dead after one play
and you got to come out and you're tapping your head,
that that act will run short. It'll run drive very quickly.
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So if you're a guy that doesn't like the practice,
you're still a guy that's probably doing everything that it
takes to make sure you're staying in the type of
condition where when you get your opportunity and you get
out there, you're doing what it is that needs to
be done. That's just the law of it. You know,
that's just the law of it. And once you've proven that,
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then you get the benefit of the doubt. Like, oh,
this player here, like you know that, Like the reports
that were coming out that Davante Adams doesn't like the practice. Okay, well,
I've seen enough of Davante Adams in the game where
I say, okay, right, But now you see somebody like
Kyler Murray, Like Kyler Murray doesn't like the practice. Kyler
Murray isn't out there. And the way you're gonna say,
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you might, I don't know, like I might question it,
like he might eat that work. He might need to
see it. Zach Wilson, Now he doesn't practice like well,
he needs that work, he needs to see it. I
think the same thing about pretty much most of the league.
These guys need to get out and see see it
from real games, game reps. I just don't this whole
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new way of doing the preseason and never playing any
of your starters the entire preseason. I'm not attributing that
to Aaron Rodgers' injury. I will say I will attribute
some of these injuries to them not their bodies, not
being game ready, game rep ready, and getting into a game.
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I will attribute some of the sloppy play and the
mistakes that are made to not being game ready, game
rep ready. I will attribute it to that, because you
gotta do it in order to improve at it. If
you're not doing it, then at some point you have
to go through the acclamation process of what it feels
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like to play game reps for four quarters. For those
out here who have never played game reps at a
high level for four quarters, that s is hard. It's hard,
it's not easy. So that's that's something to take into
consideration that, Yeah, you might have to reconsider how preseason
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is being approached.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
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find out whether or not there will be a major move.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
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Speaker 2 (15:48):
For one NFL team as we catch up with our
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Speaker 4 (16:00):
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
We're gonna have some over unders for you coming up
in about twenty minutes from now. But right now we
turn it over to a Thursday tradition. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get them on
Twitter or x or whatever the hell they're calling it
now at Albert Breer. Al what's happening? Good morning? Do you?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
What's happening? Guys?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Good morning? All right, So let's get right to the
biggest story in the NFL thus far this season, the
Aaron Rodgers injury. What's the planet quarterback? What are you hearing?
Are they reaching out to veterans. Who's most likely to
come in? Are they just going to rock with Zach
Wilson and Tim Boyle.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well, they're gonna.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I think they will add a veteran backup of some sort.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
You know, Joe.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Douglas at GM there has some connections to a couple
of guys who are available. Nick Foles, he's with him
at phil Ladelphia. Carson Wentz would be another one. But
you know, I know that the idea for at least
right now is to put a United Front up behind
Zach Wilson and give him some runway and see what
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he can make of the next couple of months, you know.
And I think it's sort of an acknowledgment that there's
not a better option out there right now.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
It's also I think sort of where they were at,
you know, when they when they went into this whole thing,
and that they didn't think Zach Wilson was completely a
lost cause. And I can remember talking to Robert Sala
about this a few times and that he felt like
Zach Wilson just needed to have the pause button hit
on his career and he needed things to slow down
a little bit, And they would have kept Zach Wilson
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behind Roger.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
This is the standard standard bersh Man. It's like every
single week.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Hey, can we reconnect with the leader labs reconnecting with that?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Okay, before Brew comes on, we start taking a poll
and you're like a bet of if Brew a bad.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Connection, I think he's got one more cut out in him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's got one more in him, I think so on
this one. Sure if it's at one and a half,
are we taking over under.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
It's like does every other radio interview he does have
this issue?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's just uwesome. Well's so we could get Honestly, I
don't think it's actually real. I think this is now
part of a bit. This is it's now like Albert's
Albert CROs bit, his trademark. You know, it's like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Something gets a little controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
He's like, yeah, it's kind of like his bat flip.
You know everybody's got that. You know that's his Albert
Briers bat flip.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Ab Right here you go, AB's back.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I feel like, you guys think I can have a
voice that's like staticky or whatever for you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Does happen on any other radio interview.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
I have had?
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, there's another radio station that I work quite a
bit with that. Uh my phone is a bit for
them too.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
I think it's the town I live in.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Damn Nantucket man, who'll get you every time.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
But what I was trying to say about.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
That, so you're a believer in Zach Wilson, you think
it's going to be a pro bowler, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, what I'm saying is the Jets.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
The Jets didn't think there was something there to continue
to develop. They wouldn't have they wouldn't have held onto him.
I don't think it would have been good for him.
It wouldn't have been good for them based on where
he was drafted. But they really did feel like the
best thing for the team was let's go get Aaron
Rodgers because the opportunity is obviously out there to do that,
and then let's see if hitting the reset button and
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pausing and slowing things down a little bit with Zach
Wilson and developed developing him behind Aaron Rodgers would work better.
And I don't think they felt like it was a
sure thing that it was gonna work out over time,
But like they did at least want to give it,
give that a shot.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Obviously because of the injury, everything's in fast forward it
a little bit. But I know they felt like he
made some progress to the point where he's their best
option right now.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Here's the thing is, I'm not buying any of that.
So like Robert Sawah that jet I. They can say
whatever they want. The reality is they made him. He
was the number two overall pick. They were popcumitted. Yeah,
and so they're trying to save face with all this
Joe Douglas. You know, they're all trying to save face.
That's fine. I think in regards to Zach Wilson and
LaVar and I kind of you touched on this earlier,
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like this gonna be a good thing. This might be
the best thing that happened to him, because either he's
gonna play better, he's he's going to have grown and matured,
which you'd hope. So with another offseason, another preseason, Aaron
Rodgers helping out, and this roster, you know, continuing.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
To grow around the quarterback position too. So either he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
He's gonna swim or he's gonna sing and and then
they can definitively move on because everything you just said
right there, Albert, doesn't make sense. If Rogers is going
to play for two or three years, and and you've
got Wilson a contract where it have to pick up
a fifth year option, so what are they gonna extend them?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Brady Is said they didn't know. They didn't know if
Rogers now he says he's going to play two years.
That's what he said to them when he when he
that's there.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Two years.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Maybe you don't know, but you don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I sure like this guy changes.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
This guy changes his mind every five minutes.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
So like, okay, so so hold on, hold on there,
So so hold on, let's play this out. Let's say
Rogers had stayed healthy, Wilson didn't play it all this year.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
They got to make a decision on the fifth year option.
They're picking it up or not?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Probably not because it's okay.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
So then so then Rogers decides to come back for
another year, right because he's contracted to and the guarantees
and so forth. And then then he's gonna hit free
agency because he because if assuming Wilson wasn't going to play,
he becomes a free agent. So you understand what there's
what I understand, what can you trade him.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And get value? You trade him and get value.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
But what sort of value are you going to get
for him at this point?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I mean I would say that something is better than nothing,
Like there's like, hey, you know, you don't go broke
taking a profit.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Something's better nothing?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Yeah, I mean like, but but I mean, just is
it worth like pawning them off for a fourth round pick?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Like you think that there's still a glimmer.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Of hope that you can develop him for the net,
like behind Aaron Rodgers for a year or two, you
can develop him and maybe you get a different player
in the back end.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I mean, look, I think I think you would be
better off being somewhere else where.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
He's going to get a lot more reps.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I don't think you get development of this level from practice.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm team Q.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Okay, but all right, so I just look like I
just think a huge part of this is context to Brady, right,
And it's like when you draft the guy's second overall
and you're rebuilding with the Jets were two years ago.
That's different than what they're going to be asking him
to do now, Like, and I think what they're going
to be asking him to do now is much different.
So the context that he's coming into this whole situation
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is a lot different. And like, I just like I
think the idea that like the idea that he would
learn from Aaron Rodgers and he gets to develop behind
Aaron Rodgers and there was no pressure on him this offseason,
and like he could work on himself this offseason and
and all of it wasn't on him this offseason. I think,
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I know people in that building felt like a benefit
or over the last four.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Or five Albert.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I know, I know now, but if you have a better.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Did we say, like, hey, he needs to take a
pause on his career.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Okay, but like let's say, let's say let's say what
what I just talked about the last five or six months.
Let's say that that caused him to take a step
in his development or two steps in his development.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Just great them.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Right, And now you're asking now, but but now, but
now he's walking onto this. Now you're asking now when
he goes back into the game, you're asking a whole
lot less of him because your expectation of him isn't
as high. So you're gonna lean on Breese Hall and
Dalvin Cook and that you can do.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
A lot more. You're gonna run the football, you play
great defense.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's what it sounds like. That's exact same formula had
last the exact same form I'm with you, but I
know what.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
They lost that formula when brisawt, when Breshall got hurt.
They lost that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Formula the degree.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
So like, I just think that the context of what
you're putting him into is different now.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
So like let's see how that goes, you.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Know, And to me, it's look, I mean if there
was if Matthew Stafford was available, I think they would
look at that. There's nothing like that available right now?
Is the problem?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know, not even some of these other veteran guys
that like maybe you're heading into the last.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Year they're going to be with those teams, None of
these teams one of part ways, Like.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Who'd you bring up?
Speaker 7 (25:07):
I'm here, Like Bryan Tannehill, I mean you could make
that phone call, Like I think that that might make
some sense to make that phone call, but I mean,
how how much further does that get you? Are you
competing for a championship.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Then I would I would feel a lot more confident.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Ryan Tannehill coming there as my quarterback than I would
be with the scenario right.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, because because here, here's here's the unfortunate thing. Here's
here's unfortunate thing that you have.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
The second that Wilson goes in and plays and it
looks anything like last year, the fan base turns on
him again. Yeah, because they because you've already risen their
expectations and their excitement with Rogers and now and look,
it was a collective like, oh no, we've got to
go back to.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
This the locker room because and I'm with you on that.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
The locker room could quote on you too, you know
what I mean, like like, I'm with you on that,
and I just but I do think, like, look, Greig,
part of the problem is timing, too, And I think
that this is a major piece of it. If we
were in week seven or week eight and close to
the trade deadline and you had teams out there, like
let's say at that point the Titans are two and five.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Right now, we're.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Talking about something that's a little bit different. And I
think that that's where the timing sets up here, where
you can give Zack Wilson a month, you can give
him six weeks and I.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Don't I don't think he has that long.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He doesn't have that long.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You've got a bye week week six.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You've got to have someone in there that if like
you want him to take over for Zach Wilson, that's
what you're aiming for.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You how to do it? Now?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
You give Zach Wilson a week five and if he
doesn't look like he's going to be the guy, you
better have someone in there that's ready to go, that
gets two weeks to prepare for that week seven game.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Yeah, And so what I'm what I'm saying, Brady is like,
right now, you're not going to have a lot of
veteran quarterbacks that are going to be a bit like
Mike Rabel's not trading Ryan Tannehill right now, O day,
Matt Ryan, Mike Brabel might trade him. Mike Brabel might
trade him if he's one and four, right, like sound that,
But what.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
About Matt Ryan?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
What about Matt Ryan?
Speaker 7 (27:08):
So that's an interesting name, Like so I think I
think that one, like to me is different than like
a Philip Rivers or Tom Brady hail Mary because Matt
Ryan played last year and I know he has to
completely shut the door I'm playing.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So that would be.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
One that I would definitely look at and say, I
would look at that, and I would say, let's bring
Matt Ryan in here as the backup for now, right,
and let's see how Zach Wilson handles that. And if
he doesn't handle that, well, then we've got our starter.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
So I think that that sort of scenario could make
some sense. But I mean, as far as making a
trade right now, I would I could see where you
would want to wait a month, six weeks to see
what teams sink to the bottom of the standings, what
quarterbacks might be available, because I think maybe the worst
thing you could do is trade at that for something
that's just blah right now, when in October there could
(28:03):
be something better available. Because team X, Y or Z
fell off the map.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Sure, hashtag team Breer. Hashtag team no no, no, no no,
we won that. That's we won that. That's a ten
eight for Breer. Easy to score.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Therein because my phone actually held up.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
My phone is the.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Winner because your phone did hold out? Did yeah? Hold?
Who knew Albert before I let you go? The result
this weekend? Poor performance that surprised you the most a
team that just looked awful. That surprised you the most.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I know one Cincinnati, maybe Cincinnati. I I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Maybe I expected too much, but I mean that was
and I don't I think it's gonna be fine. Like
I think that winning the Super Bowl. I'm not going
to back off of that. Just I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Don't know if there's any gaming quality of that game.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah, damn uh oh ab he has to get fired
up reception.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Damn it, jinks myself.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah you did, you did all right?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Jonas was right there.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I said one morning, Well, listen, that's on Jonas for
asking that last question. That's what it really alternate Wilson
like and decision making. It was just a bad.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Decision, honestly, honestly, I'll follow in the sword and it's
not me. I tried to do this while I was
dropping my kid off at school. So like that's probably
the real problem.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I think.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
For some reason, for some reason, yeah, he was tested too.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
He has like he was like me and mugging me.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
The whole time.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
But I uh, I like, I like it's my fault
because for some reason, just with you guys, I got
to be in like a stationary position for this to
work out, because usually if I'm like sitting on my porch,
it's just fine.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, Well, you know when you're in your car and
your car is moving, you know, the results can can vary.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
The result.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
The results of your reception can can vary at times, Albert.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
So I'm telling you that's why I think it's the
town I live in.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, so where do you live again? What's your home address?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Nantucket, Nantucky? Yeah, he's in the Estates.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Ohio state.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is traveling a Notre Dame soon. Hey, Albert, we appreciate it.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB, and we'll do it again next week.
All right, all right, guys, my guy al for Brier. There,
my guy al for Brier. All right, it is Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
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(30:42):
we look ahead to the beginning of Week two in
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Speaker 4 (32:06):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I have been losing.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You know you're a lion low life gamely genuine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's over under alight lead to lap first that we
do last week, Well, it was a close one last week,
even though no one did that.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Well, well, we had uh at this point last week
we Travis Kelcey was just about starting his workouts. We
hadn't figured out yet whether or not he was going
to play, so we had an over under on plays
or snaps taken by Travis kelce It was at a half.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Brady had taken the over.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Jonas LaVar, you guys took the under, which of course
you won, but Brady, you did win the under.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
On Aiden Hutchinson sex at a half, that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Was under he they were a costing him for four quarters. Yeah,
so that's I mean, clearly, that's an asterisk right there.
On Hayden Hutchinson sacks in that spot. So I've been bored.
I don't think we would count that for Brady, right,
that's that counts. That counts.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
But Jonas and LeVar, you guys tied with two three
because you had the under on the game total, which
was at fifty three. Of course, the Lines won that
game twenty one to twenty. Week one is in the books.
You guys have a you guys being Jonas and LeVar
have a one point lead on you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
There, Brady, All right, here we go.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So now we start week? Yeah, come on, we've got
vikings Eddy game total.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Forty nine over under. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Where are you there?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We got?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I thought party was just upset because you had lost
last week, or maybe that or Albert Briers phone's allergic.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Oh no, it's not allergic. We'll clean up in the podcast.
Please sell good? Maybe seems to Mark. Is Brady there?
Speaker 11 (34:04):
I guess, I guess, I guess we're there. I mean,
damn you what to the body? Or he's not getting
off the stool. Damn what if we found under?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What did? Him and Albert bren are still arguing on
the phone right now. He's like, you know what's going on?
He was not finished with. Hey, we didn't even get
to have State named McCord their quarterback. All right, so,
uh so what do we want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Move it?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
I guess we're just gonna move along here.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We gotta well, we can't do it without him.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
We'll revisit it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, well we come back to over under his next
hour maybe and uh and just get into uh yeah,
let's come back to over unders. Let's let's do it
next hour. Yeah. We we can't do it at him. Yeah,
we could do over because we were going to do
in or out right, Well yeah, I mean, but you know,
we'll do it over under his next out.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
The show is over.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Goodbye. We gotta fight out. What's going on here? Somebody check?
It's that fallen Maybe it's at Vegas.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Chuck, get up.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We got him, We got him, We got one. Sorry, okay,
come on go sorry, okay, all right, So catch Brady
up on the picture we've done so far, le.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Brady, we just started.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We have the game total game over under at forty
nine under.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Okay, under, I'm falling and.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I moving on on over unders. We've got Kirk Cousin
passing touchdowns at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Sam was talking on here say that again.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Kirk Cousins passing touchdowns one and a half.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm gonna take the over. Under.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I'm gonna take the over. I'm a fellows.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Jalen Hurts passing and rushing yards combined three one and
a half.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'm gonna take that over. I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Do they know the signals again this week? That could
be a problem.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Man, take the under.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Receiving yards for Justin Jefferson is at ninety three and
a half.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Over take the over over, Yeah, I'll take the over.
He he had some comments that he was.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Curious slaves matched up well with him.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, but but Justin Jefferson made note of that, and
he's keeping receipts. Okay, he didn't like how that went
last year.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
We take the over.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, take the over me the overly.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
Lastly sacks for Jalen Carter tonight out of half what
Sega sacks sacks?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
No, Garrett Bradbury, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Gonna take Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I might take the over on that one too.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, but it's kind of unfair that Philadelphia ended up
with Jandon Carter. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I just I love the fact they're trying to build
like the Georgia in the NFL. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Is fun.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
He's a big dude. But that is this week's edition
of over Others. He on a Fox Sports Well.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I mean we could have drugged that out a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, we drug it out a little bit. We did
a little earlier on. I mean we were, you know, bragging,
Lebar and I were bragging about tying for week one. Yeah, everyone, no,
you you Yeah, that's all right. It's always this week
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