March 29, 2022 • 39 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington wonder what the ripple effect will be from the Tyreek Hill trade. The Broncos bidding war will get expensive but could someone negotiate a discount? The Lions get Draft and Hard Knocks love on the same day. Plus, a visit from Live Bet Jesus.
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So why was one move made in the NFL recently?
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Bert got me going. It's uh my heart rate. Uh So.
One of the the major moves made in the NFL
last week was the Tyreek Hill trade, the Kansas City
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Chiefs trading their three time All Pro wide receiver to
the Miami Dolphins for several draft picks, including a first
round pick this year, uh and several others. And so
the question was that why would Kansas City make the move?
And that was sort of the the wondering of a
lot of people out there. Was there something going on
behind the scenes? Where were we at with this whole thing?
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Was there any sort of drama there? In casey Andy Reid,
the head coach of the cleave of the Kansas City Chiefs,
spoke about it yesterday and explain the reasoning behind the decision.
We did try to sign Tyreek at a certain cost
once against passat Now you can see what we're doing
here with the players we brought in, and we feel
they're very good football players. The end result is gonna
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be what takes place during the season. But Brent's building
this thing back to where we feel comfortable so that
we can go win on Sundays. So is that mean
Davanta Adams is the reason that Tyreek Hill is no
longer Kansas City chief. That the price got so high
that Kansas City said, uh, we can't make this work.
I don't know if that's the case. I again, Davante
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Adams from a pure production standpoint, would have a better
statistical argument that he's the number one wide receiver. But
I think we all know tyreks Hill's speed makes them
such a different element to all of it. And I
think he you know, when when he signed his contract extension.
Initially when he got into the league, there was still
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some concern about off the field stuff and his history
that even I think left somebody on the able for him. Now,
since he's been a good actor during his time at
least you know what we perceived on the outside, Now
that he's been a good actor for that long period
of time, he can go cash in and get one
of those big money deals. I just I think I
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think it's hard to like directly say it was Davante
Adams only because we didn't see the details of that
deal until later, and it's not that great of a
deal when you really break it down as far as
what he's getting and guarantees and signing and those sorts
of things. So I don't know if it had so
much to do with it. I just think he looked
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at his age, his production, everything he's done up to
this point, and said, I have the opportunity to go
make a lot of money. I've got to utilize that
leverage now to go do it. And if Kansas City
can't come to an agreement for a long term deal,
which they tried to, I'll I mean, look a there
Ken City looked at it. Pribcely said, well, we know
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we can get something back and return for him. So
as much as this is a great opportun for him
to go make a big money deal somewhere else, it's
also a great opportunity for us to go ahead and
get a bunch of draft picks in return for him.
I mean, think about the compensation that we've seen for
various you know, wide receivers. It's kind of a mixed bag.
I mean, Stefan Diggs went for a bunch of picks
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to Buffalo, had a huge impact, you know, Davante Adams.
You know, maybe we say it's it's kind of similar. Um,
I don't know that you see received quite as much
draft conversation as Tyreek Hill. And then you see other
guys who don't go for quite as much. DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, yeah,
the bag of funyans. So, I mean, again, we said
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this last week, I'll keep saying it. He's not gonna
live up to the contract. He's gonna become frustrated. I mean,
based on Mike McDaniels past and how he wants to
run the football, and two on his skill set versus
Patrick mahomes he better be counting that money be happy
about that, because I don't think he's gonna be happy with,
you know, the situation that he's he's put in on
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a the play from the playing field standpoint. I think
that Kansas City, as I I've you know, I've maintained,
feel confident about what they're going to be able to
do without Tyreek Hill, whether they like it or not.
Maybe it's not. Of course, it's not the most ideal
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situation to lose your you know, your your best receiver
and and and most dangerous weapon in terms of who
Pat Mahomes Patrick, excuse me, my homes Is is delivering
the ball to uh. But I think that the belief
in my homes and what they can do to keep
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putting tools around him so that he can have success.
Is where their confidence is. It's in it's in Andy Reid,
and how they draw up their place it's in it's
in Andy Reid, and what their game plans are going
to be. I think that those are the things that
they're leaning into and and and really historically speaking, I
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mean that's just the NFL is probably the biggest, the biggest,
I guess league to to do that, to handle things
that way where it's like, you know what, as good
as he is, we're still willing to let him go
like that. Generally, you don't see that really happen in
other sports. You get a superstar of of that magnitude,
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they're going to have a long, long career wherever it
is that they're at, because you realize the value of
what that person is as a brand, not just as
a player, but as a brand on and off the
you know, wherever, whatever the sport maybe, but football, they
just handle things differently. It's always the shield, it's always
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the team that is bigger than any one part. And
and that's what we're seeing play out here. I mean,
just listening to the sound. It just sounded they're confident
and what it is they they feel like for what
it's worth, it's a tremendous loss. But if there was
a winner in the scenario of being, you know, facing
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that loss of Tarik Kill, I think they felt confident
in where they came out and what they were able
to get. I mean, you know, because you know they've
got Patrick Mahomes, you would think, and I know Andy
Reid mentioned, you know, yesterday and talking about Patrick Mahomes
and their confidence in him moving forward, but you're you're
not going to replace Tyreek Hill. So I just wonder
what happens to Kelsey now, like, is this Kelsey? Is
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he gonna get? You know, are people gonna pay more
close attention to Kelsey? Are his number is gonna dip? How?
What is this gonna look like? Are they gonna try
and buy the football more? Are they gonna It's a
great point because now you almost wonder is Kelsey expendable?
If this is gonna happen to Tyreek Hill, it could
happen to Travis Kelsey because they're not effective without the
other ones say that, yet you don't we don't know,
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we don't know that LaVar said, it's like it's it's
all bet on Patrick Mahomes being able to elevate whoever's
around him. Now, I think the I think the hard
thing that you lose out on is it takes a
while to develop chemistry. This doesn't happen overnight, you know.
So oftentimes when you throw football up to someone downfield,
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that ball leaves your hand. I mean, for example, a
typical go route right, just a straight fly go nine,
whatever you wanna call it, where your wide receiver just
taken off running down the field. That ball will leave
a quarterback's hands when the wide receiver, depending on his speed,
is in between ten and twelve yards downfield. Think about
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that for a second. He catches it between forty to
forty four yards downfield if thrown on five step drop
with one hitch and a throw, So that ball is
in the air for basically thirty of those yards and
that wide receiver. And again this is a little easier
because it's just a spot more yards down field where
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you're throwing and keeping him on that line, that's where
that net ball is gonna be. But thirty of those
yards of the wide receiver's route, the ball is already
in the air. That's chemistry, and that stuff happens over time,
and that's where I think you take that for granted sometimes.
And you also take for granted. You know, Okay, you
bring in Marquez Valdez Scandling, he's fast. We know that
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Juji Smith Schuster, he catched the football well kind of possession.
Guide could do a little bit after the football too.
And if you took both those two players and their
average production together over the course of their NFL career,
it would it would have mountain more yards then Tyreek
Hill barely more yards per year, less receptions, less touchdowns.
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So they're banking on all that working out, and I'm
just like, I don't know, Like, I don't think you're
gonna get the same production out of both. May be
at least not this year, maybe in the future, in
two years from now. But I think Travis Kelsey is
the next one to keep an eye on because it's
almost sends a message to him if you want that
sort of contract, you want big time money, even though
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you may be deserving of it, you might have to
get it somewhere else. I was listening to uh T
j houshman Zada and you guys talking about this this weekend,
LaVar and he made the point, and I thought it
was interesting. He said, justin Jefferson and Jamaar Chase have
come into the league and exploded immediately, and maybe do
teams around the league look at that and go all right,
well that, you know, we'll just find another guy like
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that in the NFL. Well, maybe there's not another guy
like that, depending on where you're drifting, And that was
my response to him. Maybe there isn't, but maybe there is.
You just don't know until you know. You know, even
with Juju Juju Smith Schuster, right, he's got to be
motivated to do what he can do because it's his
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fall off was was big off and now he's you know,
and the most crowded TikTok market in the country. With
Jackson Mahomes, I mean, like he's got to figure this
thing out that they'll they'll work to make it for well,
I don't know, I want to know where is coming from.
I think it comes in case see it's between one
of those two. Yeah. I think they're going to form
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an alliance and make it work, you know, partnership. Yeah,
I think so. Social media world, Yeah, it is. Yeah,
the collaborations are big and collapse. Yeah, yeah, there's always
a chance, that's all I'll saying. Listen, if if it
works out, then Patrick Mahomes further built his legend, and
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Andy Rea, you know, puts himself in a position to
to be in more conversations as one of the great
at the coaching position. And what does it mean for
Araby enemy I don't know, but this is one of
those moments where it's like, man, Kansas City has at
the Kansas City way, there's that there's that possibility, or
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it could go to opposite direction, like it's over because
they're not a dynasty yet. They're not. Everybody's talking dynasty,
but they're not there, so they're going either way. Look
at history though with Andy Reid, and we've said this before,
in order to get to Super Bowls, winning super Bowls,
he's had to have those star wide receivers. He had
t O he had t Sean Jackson, he had Tyreek Hill. Yeah,
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I mean, if you wanna throw Travis Kelsey in there,
I mean we can act like it doesn't matter. It matters,
and it's mattered in those games. It mattered in winning
a Super Bowl with Tyreek Hill's ability to get open
downfield versus forty nine, that completely flipped the game on
its head. I just I feel like when you look
at the rest of the division and what they've done
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this offseason, with the Chiefs have done well, they could
be in trouble. But if it's a Campbell, they're doing
the exact opposite of what everyone else is doing. They're
building economically, they're building back to the draft, and everyone
else is spending money. I'm trying to turn this thing
around right now. Is it fair to say everybody in
the a f C West has improved this offseason except
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for the Chiefs. No, it's not. It's not fair like well,
like the Raiders have improved, the Chargers have improved, improved,
it's justin read an upgrade over Tyron Matthew. I have
no idea at this point. I don't I don't think
so leadership wise. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
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I just think the amount of draft picks that they
have that they received from it. They did at Juju,
they did at at scan uh Scandaling. I don't think
that they of course, you you you feel the loss
of to re kill, but if you're gonna lose a
player like that, look at all of the other things
that they have so that they may get a playmaker
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in in in the draft as on the defensive side
of the ball might not even be on offense side
of the ball. So I mean, I wouldn't say that
they didn't improve. I mean they haven't improved yet. If
that's how you're gonna say it, Yeah, I wouldn't say
that they I wouldn't say that they haven't. I mean
with those those picks and that possibility, there's a chance
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with those picks and there those possibilities that they will improve.
I mean, what about the reversal here, because during the
season Brady and I were more optimistic on the Chiefs
and you are. I'm not saying I'm optimistic. That's not
true at all. That's not true. I'm not I'm not
saying I'm optimistic about them. I'm just my opinion of
it is is what they were able to receive with
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their trade of of tore Hill puts them. I mean, again,
I believe in draft picks. Maybe maybe that's not a
general consensus. I believe in draft picks. So if you
get a lot of us I'm good with that. You
were obviously at this point in time, you were you
were done playing, but you were in d C for
everything with with Robert, you know, Robert Griffin the third
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and Washington that time, and those draft picks. The interesting
thing about that is that one year, which would have
been r G three's rookie year, was still farther than
the Rams ever got with all the draft picks they got.
And by the way, it's not that they didn't have
you know, they had some misses, but they also had
some really good picks with those picks. They also had
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a number of players for productive pros, etcetera, etcetera. It's
just at the end of the day, I just you know,
I'm not sure if you're gonna go as far just
getting draft picks. I think those draft picks have to
mean something. Yeah, I agree, but I'm willing to take
my chances with them draft picks meaning something. If I
got a part ways, I want draft picks stock, that's all.
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in stores. How about it? How your voice wasn't deep enough?
But we'll take it. Well, listen, you know, I got
a little always, you know, a little little horse today
for the first time in my life. So it's just
first time. Just uptime of the throat, right, yeah, just
a little I'm just saying, you got a little horse. Huh. Yeah,
you are unbelievable. Never stops, absolutely stops. How much money
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you guys got on you? You got you got enough
money on you? Like what you mean? I mean you
guys excuse me? Yeah, all morning, we all do Yeah,
working hard here. Now. I was gonna ask you, like,
do you guys carry much cash anymore? I don't care
cash at all. I usually carry like around twenty bucks
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or so, just in case, you know, just just trying,
just in case. Yeah, what's that going to do for? Well?
I don't know, like you know, if I you know, likerash,
if I go to a place it doesn't doesn't accept cards,
Like there's some places they don't accept credit, so they
would rather you deal in cash. You know. That's so
like you know, there's there's like the digital wallets now,
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like I don't know, I got teenagers, So I'm I'm
like I'm going to do for you to Like if
I if I go pick up the wife and pastries
at at a Mexican market, Um, a lot of you know,
they don't want to use a credit card, so they
you know, I understand the point where there's businesses that
don't use credit, they want to use cash. I'm just
asking it's twenty enough to carry in your pocket. Yeah, yeah, no,
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it's enough. I mean, I just you know, you pay,
it's like, you know, five six bucks and you get
to go. You know, if I know I'm going to
a place like that, I'm going to draw the cash out.
If I know I'm going to like a food stand
or a place where they're only taking cash. You know,
ironically enough, we knew exactly where you're if that were
the direction you were going to go in with that
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you you would actually do that at a place not there.
It's the funniest thing because ever noticed the terminals there
charge you way more like casinos that casino. They charge
you so much more to draw out money from them.
Think about that. You want to draw out a hundred bucks,
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you gotta give him ten bucks? Is that what it
is in the casino? Yes, So you take out two
hundred bucks a cost you twenty bucks. Dude. I found
that out the hard way one time in Vegas. That's
all I know, had way too much to drink. I
saw a bunch of college friends that I had no
idea I was gonna end up running into. They were
playing craps. I was hammered. I went to go grab
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some cash. I was looking at it, thinking, my gosh,
that's ridiculous. But if I don't do this, I don't
know what. I don't know where else to to do it. Transaction,
get cash. So i've i've if I want to go gamble,
I gotta go do it. I mean three, I'm not
going to leave the property to go get cash, and
they know it. Three fifty three fifty it's me. It's
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like standard operating procedures appalls me, like every time I
see three dollars or three whatever, it's like it's appalling,
Like I'm giving you, I'm paying you for you to
give me my money. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Well,
I just make sure I take something that's worth three
dollars and fifty cents from whatever place I had to
pay for their cash. So that way, at least it's
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a small percentage of what you're taking out. Yeah, or
you put something in your pocket when you're at the cash, rightister,
I mean listen you, I mean they want to play
games here, we can play games. Here's here's like, let's
have facts of gum. Let's have a relevant moment here.
Why the hell did you ask? Well, that's because the
Denver Broncos are for seven. We go there, we got
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did you not do I not get credit for my
forget you? Forget you Jonas? Thank you, Kiah um sale.
There's a few issues though it's so far reportedly there's
more than five bidders, less than twenties. So let's just
put it somewhere in there. There's there's a lot of bidders. Um,
you gotta have cash, man, if you want to buy
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an NFL franchise, it's not about your net worth alright,
net worth obviously a lot of people out there you
can have millions. In this case, you need to have billions.
You need to be liquid. You need to have some
in your pocket, Yeah, like a million in your pocket
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to be able to pay for this. So I personally,
and I've said this, I think four billion is the
starting bid. I think it goes up from there. Honestly,
I wouldn't be shocked if if the Broncos didn't sell.
By the way, historic franchise have had a lot of success,
unbelievable City Sports Town. And now you've got Russell Wilson.
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Like that price just went up because you've got Russell Wilson.
You've got this this stacked lineup, You've got a guy
who may be there for the next four eight years,
however long it is. That is gonna be a nice
run of wins and money generated off of that. At
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least that's my anticipation. That's probably what the Broncos are
selling to a lot of these bidders, and it's one
of the reasons why the price tag probably keeps going up.
The only thing that makes the price tag go down
is they just had a fire up stadium that took
out you know a few of their suites and seats,
and I don't know it's gonna be ready in time
for the season. That being said, though, it's it's it's
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gonna go for a lot, a lot of money. The
most recent team was Carolina at two point two billion,
two points just under two point three billion. They sold
for eighteen If you just look around, everything's gone up
in price right just over the last you know, year
and a half. It's gotta be four billion, like it.
I mean, it has to be at least four billion dollars.
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And for the Denver Broncos. Look, you're gonna make that
money back just based on all the TV deals, everything
that comes along with it, the Russell Wilson aspect of it.
Uh like all of that stuff. It feels like if
you make four billion back, well, if you pay that
in cash, you see how much how much? Well, it's
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it's tough because you don't know. I mean, profits are profits,
but you don't know how those profits are being if
they're being put back into the company, if they're being distributed,
you know, if you're holding on the cash whatever it is.
So I'm not sure you look at it that way,
don't you. What you look at is you look at
the return on your investment, right the r o I,
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and then you always have the upside at the end
when you sell. That's what you're gonna get a multiple
of what you bought it for. And I don't have
off the top of my head, you know what, um
what the Bowling family bought it for originally, But I
am sure they're making a at least ten x or
more from what they bought it from four originally that
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would be my guests. So it's currently valued, by the way,
but this is based on Forbes at three point seven
five billion dollars. And so just to compare to the
richest person in Colorado, who's Philip and Shuts. So if
if you've heard of and Shuts before, or if you haven't,
I should say you probably actually have, you just haven't
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realized it. You guys, ever heard of a E. G.
And Shuts Entertainment? Yeah, So that's the family that basically
owns all the stadium and arenas that you all go
to around the country when you go watch sporting events.
They own a lot of them. They got the money
that well that he's so so Philip and Shuts is
worth about ten billion, and so just to put this
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into perspective, you'd have to have of your total value
to be able to be in that instance, right, uh,
the majority owner of the team if you have ten
billion dollars and it would be tied up into a
sports franchise. I saw they were one of a couple
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of the names that were mentioned were Tom Brady and
then Peyton Anning potentially tied into you know, being interested
in wanting to be owners. And they quickly pointed out
but they would have a small role because basically they
don't have the money. Those guys, as wealthy as they are,
don't have that type of money. There's different types of wealth.
And Tom Brady and Peyton Manning for for everyday schmucks
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like the rest of us will get it and go man,
those guys are really wealthy in comparison to that guy,
a g guy or whatever his name is, not even
not even in the same stratosphere as far as wealth.
To be able to own an NFL it's generally a
passion a family business. It's never for wanting to make money.
It's generally, I won't say never, it's generally not about
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making the money when you're owner of a franchise, so
you know it is different money. Jeff Bezos has got
to be one of the guys in contention, right, I
mean it feels like, you know, Joe Ellis was, um,
who's who's kind of running it? All? Is was pretty
confidential about who the bidders were that he was asked about.
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John Elway was asked about Peyton Manning and he kind
of he just shoved it off and said, you can
ask those guys about their involvement if any. But that's
the reality is. Um, they're not gonna say who's necessarily
bidding on it. Um, there's probably some liability there that
it could come into play. But I would imagine that,
you know, Payton or or John might be a part
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of an ownership group. Right, but you guys pull some
money together to trying to make it happen. Yeah, that's
not unthinkable, I said Tom Brad. And why I said
Tom Brady, I meant John Elway. I have no idea why,
I said Tom Brady. But John always got what like
still four or five car dealerships in Denver. He's got
to look after. Maybe he's a little too busy, I mean,
don't I don't know that. They might just have his name.
He might not have any involvement anymore. There was a
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car wash that I used to go do that was
Lenny dike Stros car wash out here in Simi Valley, California.
And it was weird. Um some stuff came out and
then all of a sudden it wasn't his car wash anymore.
I don't know what happened. It's weird how that how
that worked. So apparently you just put your name on
it and don't have to do a whole lot, but
if you get into some trouble, they'll take it away.
It was the famous kicker for the ram shouse. That's uh,
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famous kicker for the Rams. He's got a he's got
a restaurant, I frequent. Yeah, there it is, has got
a restaurant. Yeah, it's really good to their food is
really good and they and they go crazy, they go
nuts in there on Sundays. It's a great, great environment.
Shouts out to them. That does the day house. Uh
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yeah restaurant. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean? Oh, I
see what you guys are doing. And I'm glad that
Bertoe missed it. Because I just thought, for one for
a second that he would hit the button. You know, well,
I just said, those people are really kind to me
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when I go into the restaurant. But yeah, there, I've
just figured out I'd make it easier. I mean, I
I just didn't understand what you're getting at. Now. Can
I ask you guys a question. Do you think somebody's
going to try and haggle on the price because part
of the stadium burnt last week? It's like, it's like
when when you pay for a can of chili that's
dented on the side, you get it for like us
(28:14):
in a buck on the on the you know, the
the aisle. There's a better comparison. Here's what's gonna happen.
Have you ever gone to buy a house, something's wrong
with the house and all that, and you force the
person who's selling to remedy the situation to your satisfaction.
I imagine that's what's gonna happen. They'll say, look, we're
not paying for the improvements to the seeds, the sweets
and all that. Or maybe if you feel like you
(28:35):
have enough leverages to sell or the bullet family, They're like, nope,
you're gonna buy it as is. Despite that, you know,
when you're buying a house, you get in those scenarios too,
So it could go either way, but it definitely will
impact to a degree if they can't get you know,
it fixed in time the revenue for this upcoming year.
I also don't buy the fact that it's not gonna
get fixed in time. The NFL, they've they've got resources.
(28:56):
They can say, well, you know there's you know, shortages
of supplies and things like that. It's the NFL. They
put on games in the middle of a pandemic. They
can get this stadium fixed in time. They got like
six months to figure it out and come together and
make it happen for God's sakes, that's how it works,
all right. It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here.
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to hear from live at Jesus here momentarily, I have
no idea what he's even betting on. Is there anything
(30:44):
going on? Is there like spring training games going on
right now that we're not aware of. Is there a
golf tournament you're a golf guy. Is there a golf
tournament somewhere like earlier in the week for a golf tournament,
unless we're talking about some foreign country, I'm not aware
of the soccer maybe right somewhere. If I have no idea,
at some point time there is spring training, it'd be
odd though at this hour, I'm not sure that would
(31:06):
be the direction. Is the cricket somewhere at some point
I don't know? See that's the thing, like I never
know what's going on until the piece of paper falls
from the sky and then I read the wager on
the air. Um, I mean, trust me, if I had
any impact on this, he would lose every week, not
win every week like he does. I'm assuming it's a
he by the way every week. Yeah, you're confusing. He
(31:27):
didn't even win last week. Hey, I don't. I'm not sure.
I mean, I think you know last I remember lie
by Jesus at one like three in a row, and
so so whatever happened at that, If I'm not there,
there was a couple of tweets. I can go back
to the history if you'd like. I don't think that's necessary.
I think just taking taking my word for it is
probably the best approach when it comes that is actually
(31:47):
probably the worst approach. So I don't understand what that's
supposed to mean. I'm I'm as honest as they come.
Uh so, so again we will hear from Lie Bet
Jesus momentarily Fox Sports Radio. It's it's it's confirmed there's
going to be an appearance. I mean, I'm assuming he
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never flames coming. Uh he never flames. It's it's raining
shuttlecocks and cash on this fine day March of this year.
You uh you, if I'm not mistaken, you've bet on
to much Jr. Pop off plus ten and a half
over Victor Axelsson in German badminton and you lost or
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excuse me, live Bet Jesus, I don't. Yeah, that's weird.
He replied to it as sinner. Okay, right, yeah, well
I do remember now and now now you know, starting
to jog my memory here a little bit. Uh yeah,
he did bet on badminton. That is that is Yeah,
German German badminton. For those of you wondering whether or
not German badminton was ever going to make an appearance
(32:55):
on live radio, it absolutely has. Uh so again we know,
can I did it? Badminton is really really fun to watch.
Badminton is one of the great most underrated summertime activities,
right next to cornhole. I would say badminton and cornhole
the best summertime activities. Absolutely it is. It's gotta love
(33:16):
how you got them being bags? Yeah, what's what's the
matter with you? Get it together? It's real skill to
be able to toss and love them being bags just
just right? What do you go on? Hey, the weather
is starting to heat up. It's it's cornhole season, all
right for a lot of people out there, right, so
(33:37):
I want to play bags. It's cornhole people's season for
a lot of people a year out. Okay, I'm trying
to have an adult conversation and I'm just trying to
finish with v Yeah. There it is. The the the
face of Big New kick off and now the man
who gave a stiff arm on Big New just think
it's all about tossing that being bag to score. What
(34:02):
is wrong with you? Brady Brady, Come out of your guy.
We have lost him, absolutely lost. You never played the
back tossed before? You never played bags, lavarts corn hole.
(34:24):
A lot of people call bags, yeah they never heard. Yeah, exactly,
I've never heard. You've never heard anybody called bags before? No?
All right, well, I mean, you know, get out a
little bit more. Jonas does this because he thinks he's
trying to be like a trendsett I'm not nowhere. I'm like,
I'm not like left handed cigarettes, which bags is called
(34:45):
a d bag had left handed cigarette until I met you. Okay,
what about it? A lung dart cigarette? Ever heard about
lung dart? Alright, I've heard that before. Okay, let's see,
I'm not making stuff up. The green wolf is one
that I hadn't heard, but I think that. What about
the hippie lettuce? Hippie lettuce is real? Yeah, there's there's
(35:09):
that so again, you know, yeah, the booger sugars, Yeah,
that's all right. You know. Bending the elbow a term
for drinking beers, bending the elbow, getting banged up. Brady Brady,
his buddies taught me that one getting banged up if
you're drunk, like when you drank too much. Yeah, I
(35:29):
heard that from Brady's golf tournament. One of this buddy said,
at bang up, you know I've never heard that before. Yeah,
so you never heard that. I have never heard it. LaVar,
Please don't repeat what almost did? Almost did? You almost end? Though.
Roberto is a terrible influence, absolutely horrible influence. Bag tossing,
(35:51):
that's your I don't think I listen. You get a bag,
You get a bag, You get a everybody gets a bag.
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how about the Detroit Lions getting picked for hard knocks
and they get the draft. You think there's a coincidence there?
They said, all right, if you guys take hard knocks,
will give you the draft. That works. Brady, You you're
connected there in the NFL's out of this works. Since
nobody wants to be a part of hard knocks that
(36:36):
this happens. I don't know how it works. Um, I
just I feel like we throw out bones to you know,
certain cities and teams that aren't gonna get Super Bowl love. Right,
We're not gonna get a super Bowl Detroit again, probably
until they build a new stake. Um, they just got
the draft in. But it's it's like the NFL's way
(36:56):
of trying to create equity amongst the teams, you know,
So let's let's go ahead and throw out hard knocks here.
We'll give these guys you know, a draft here or there.
But it's just it's not doesn't have the same type
of a lord to it. But I think it'll be entertaining.
But no one ever wants to do hard knocks. Now, hey, Brady, listen,
(37:18):
I don't know what's happening here. And all right now,
all the lights are completely out in the studio. I
can't see anything. Uh there is the TVs are flashing
on and off except for that one over there, and
they're showing something on a on a train apparently. Uh.
And and now there's a there there's a hovering cloud
that is opening up over the studio here and a
piece of paper is falling down onto the desk. Just see.
(37:41):
You know, we're on the up and up here. This
is not a game. This is one of Brady's ideas
where hey, let's do some goofy stuff on the radio,
since you guys want to be broadcasters and I want
to have some fun. Here's the proof there, It is there,
it is. Oh my god, this is a stunner. And
(38:02):
now makes me wonder a couple of things. It is
tonight or this morning, depending on where you are listening
to this program right now. On the twenty ninth of
March two, that I live that Jesus proclaimed the pick
to be Vietnam plus one against Japan in World Cup qualifying.
(38:25):
How about that Brady called it? I mean, apparently I'm
reading it's right here on the paper of our Look
it's right there on the paper. Do they see that.
It's right? It's it's right there. Plus one Vietnam is
plus one against Japan according to this piece of paper
right here. Yeah, I mean, I'm not familiar with that.
I can't confirm any of that inform you. I don't
(38:47):
what are you talking? I'm reading what's on a piece
of paper, like like, why why am I getting my balls? Not?
What is the plus thousand for the money line drawer?
No bet, they're Type one one. Yeah, so I'll begin
plus the spread. It was like, you know what, right,
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Bert got me going. It's uh my heart rate. Uh So.
One of the the major moves made in the NFL
last week was the Tyreek Hill trade, the Kansas City
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Chiefs trading their three time All Pro wide receiver to
the Miami Dolphins for several draft picks, including a first
round pick this year, uh and several others. And so
the question was that why would Kansas City make the move?
And that was sort of the the wondering of a
lot of people out there. Was there something going on
behind the scenes? Where were we at with this whole thing?
(01:47):
Was there any sort of drama there? In casey Andy Reid,
the head coach of the cleave of the Kansas City Chiefs,
spoke about it yesterday and explain the reasoning behind the decision.
We did try to sign Tyreek at a certain cost
once against passat Now you can see what we're doing
here with the players we brought in, and we feel
they're very good football players. The end result is gonna
(02:08):
be what takes place during the season. But Brent's building
this thing back to where we feel comfortable so that
we can go win on Sundays. So is that mean
Davanta Adams is the reason that Tyreek Hill is no
longer Kansas City chief. That the price got so high
that Kansas City said, uh, we can't make this work.
I don't know if that's the case. I again, Davante
(02:32):
Adams from a pure production standpoint, would have a better
statistical argument that he's the number one wide receiver. But
I think we all know tyreks Hill's speed makes them
such a different element to all of it. And I
think he you know, when when he signed his contract extension.
Initially when he got into the league, there was still
(02:53):
some concern about off the field stuff and his history
that even I think left somebody on the able for him. Now,
since he's been a good actor during his time at
least you know what we perceived on the outside, Now
that he's been a good actor for that long period
of time, he can go cash in and get one
of those big money deals. I just I think I
(03:14):
think it's hard to like directly say it was Davante
Adams only because we didn't see the details of that
deal until later, and it's not that great of a
deal when you really break it down as far as
what he's getting and guarantees and signing and those sorts
of things. So I don't know if it had so
much to do with it. I just think he looked
(03:35):
at his age, his production, everything he's done up to
this point, and said, I have the opportunity to go
make a lot of money. I've got to utilize that
leverage now to go do it. And if Kansas City
can't come to an agreement for a long term deal,
which they tried to, I'll I mean, look a there
Ken City looked at it. Pribcely said, well, we know
(03:55):
we can get something back and return for him. So
as much as this is a great opportun for him
to go make a big money deal somewhere else, it's
also a great opportunity for us to go ahead and
get a bunch of draft picks in return for him.
I mean, think about the compensation that we've seen for
various you know, wide receivers. It's kind of a mixed bag.
I mean, Stefan Diggs went for a bunch of picks
(04:17):
to Buffalo, had a huge impact, you know, Davante Adams.
You know, maybe we say it's it's kind of similar. Um,
I don't know that you see received quite as much
draft conversation as Tyreek Hill. And then you see other
guys who don't go for quite as much. DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, yeah,
the bag of funyans. So, I mean, again, we said
(04:39):
this last week, I'll keep saying it. He's not gonna
live up to the contract. He's gonna become frustrated. I mean,
based on Mike McDaniels past and how he wants to
run the football, and two on his skill set versus
Patrick mahomes he better be counting that money be happy
about that, because I don't think he's gonna be happy with,
you know, the situation that he's he's put in on
(04:59):
a the play from the playing field standpoint. I think
that Kansas City, as I I've you know, I've maintained,
feel confident about what they're going to be able to
do without Tyreek Hill, whether they like it or not.
Maybe it's not. Of course, it's not the most ideal
(05:20):
situation to lose your you know, your your best receiver
and and and most dangerous weapon in terms of who
Pat Mahomes Patrick, excuse me, my homes Is is delivering
the ball to uh. But I think that the belief
in my homes and what they can do to keep
(05:40):
putting tools around him so that he can have success.
Is where their confidence is. It's in it's in Andy Reid,
and how they draw up their place it's in it's
in Andy Reid, and what their game plans are going
to be. I think that those are the things that
they're leaning into and and and really historically speaking, I
(06:02):
mean that's just the NFL is probably the biggest, the biggest,
I guess league to to do that, to handle things
that way where it's like, you know what, as good
as he is, we're still willing to let him go
like that. Generally, you don't see that really happen in
other sports. You get a superstar of of that magnitude,
(06:25):
they're going to have a long, long career wherever it
is that they're at, because you realize the value of
what that person is as a brand, not just as
a player, but as a brand on and off the
you know, wherever, whatever the sport maybe, but football, they
just handle things differently. It's always the shield, it's always
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the team that is bigger than any one part. And
and that's what we're seeing play out here. I mean,
just listening to the sound. It just sounded they're confident
and what it is they they feel like for what
it's worth, it's a tremendous loss. But if there was
a winner in the scenario of being, you know, facing
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that loss of Tarik Kill, I think they felt confident
in where they came out and what they were able
to get. I mean, you know, because you know they've
got Patrick Mahomes, you would think, and I know Andy
Reid mentioned, you know, yesterday and talking about Patrick Mahomes
and their confidence in him moving forward, but you're you're
not going to replace Tyreek Hill. So I just wonder
what happens to Kelsey now, like, is this Kelsey? Is
(07:34):
he gonna get? You know, are people gonna pay more
close attention to Kelsey? Are his number is gonna dip? How?
What is this gonna look like? Are they gonna try
and buy the football more? Are they gonna It's a
great point because now you almost wonder is Kelsey expendable?
If this is gonna happen to Tyreek Hill, it could
happen to Travis Kelsey because they're not effective without the
other ones say that, yet you don't we don't know,
(07:58):
we don't know that LaVar said, it's like it's it's
all bet on Patrick Mahomes being able to elevate whoever's
around him. Now, I think the I think the hard
thing that you lose out on is it takes a
while to develop chemistry. This doesn't happen overnight, you know.
So oftentimes when you throw football up to someone downfield,
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that ball leaves your hand. I mean, for example, a
typical go route right, just a straight fly go nine,
whatever you wanna call it, where your wide receiver just
taken off running down the field. That ball will leave
a quarterback's hands when the wide receiver, depending on his speed,
is in between ten and twelve yards downfield. Think about
(08:39):
that for a second. He catches it between forty to
forty four yards downfield if thrown on five step drop
with one hitch and a throw, So that ball is
in the air for basically thirty of those yards and
that wide receiver. And again this is a little easier
because it's just a spot more yards down field where
(09:01):
you're throwing and keeping him on that line, that's where
that net ball is gonna be. But thirty of those
yards of the wide receiver's route, the ball is already
in the air. That's chemistry, and that stuff happens over time,
and that's where I think you take that for granted sometimes.
And you also take for granted. You know, Okay, you
bring in Marquez Valdez Scandling, he's fast. We know that
(09:25):
Juji Smith Schuster, he catched the football well kind of possession.
Guide could do a little bit after the football too.
And if you took both those two players and their
average production together over the course of their NFL career,
it would it would have mountain more yards then Tyreek
Hill barely more yards per year, less receptions, less touchdowns.
(09:50):
So they're banking on all that working out, and I'm
just like, I don't know, Like, I don't think you're
gonna get the same production out of both. May be
at least not this year, maybe in the future, in
two years from now. But I think Travis Kelsey is
the next one to keep an eye on because it's
almost sends a message to him if you want that
sort of contract, you want big time money, even though
(10:13):
you may be deserving of it, you might have to
get it somewhere else. I was listening to uh T
j houshman Zada and you guys talking about this this weekend,
LaVar and he made the point, and I thought it
was interesting. He said, justin Jefferson and Jamaar Chase have
come into the league and exploded immediately, and maybe do
teams around the league look at that and go all right,
well that, you know, we'll just find another guy like
(10:34):
that in the NFL. Well, maybe there's not another guy
like that, depending on where you're drifting, And that was
my response to him. Maybe there isn't, but maybe there is.
You just don't know until you know. You know, even
with Juju Juju Smith Schuster, right, he's got to be
motivated to do what he can do because it's his
(10:55):
fall off was was big off and now he's you know,
and the most crowded TikTok market in the country. With
Jackson Mahomes, I mean, like he's got to figure this
thing out that they'll they'll work to make it for well,
I don't know, I want to know where is coming from.
I think it comes in case see it's between one
of those two. Yeah. I think they're going to form
(11:15):
an alliance and make it work, you know, partnership. Yeah,
I think so. Social media world, Yeah, it is. Yeah,
the collaborations are big and collapse. Yeah, yeah, there's always
a chance, that's all I'll saying. Listen, if if it
works out, then Patrick Mahomes further built his legend, and
(11:35):
Andy Rea, you know, puts himself in a position to
to be in more conversations as one of the great
at the coaching position. And what does it mean for
Araby enemy I don't know, but this is one of
those moments where it's like, man, Kansas City has at
the Kansas City way, there's that there's that possibility, or
(11:57):
it could go to opposite direction, like it's over because
they're not a dynasty yet. They're not. Everybody's talking dynasty,
but they're not there, so they're going either way. Look
at history though with Andy Reid, and we've said this before,
in order to get to Super Bowls, winning super Bowls,
he's had to have those star wide receivers. He had
t O he had t Sean Jackson, he had Tyreek Hill. Yeah,
(12:18):
I mean, if you wanna throw Travis Kelsey in there,
I mean we can act like it doesn't matter. It matters,
and it's mattered in those games. It mattered in winning
a Super Bowl with Tyreek Hill's ability to get open
downfield versus forty nine, that completely flipped the game on
its head. I just I feel like when you look
at the rest of the division and what they've done
(12:39):
this offseason, with the Chiefs have done well, they could
be in trouble. But if it's a Campbell, they're doing
the exact opposite of what everyone else is doing. They're
building economically, they're building back to the draft, and everyone
else is spending money. I'm trying to turn this thing
around right now. Is it fair to say everybody in
the a f C West has improved this offseason except
(13:00):
for the Chiefs. No, it's not. It's not fair like well,
like the Raiders have improved, the Chargers have improved, improved,
it's justin read an upgrade over Tyron Matthew. I have
no idea at this point. I don't I don't think
so leadership wise. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
(13:20):
I just think the amount of draft picks that they
have that they received from it. They did at Juju,
they did at at scan uh Scandaling. I don't think
that they of course, you you you feel the loss
of to re kill, but if you're gonna lose a
player like that, look at all of the other things
that they have so that they may get a playmaker
(13:44):
in in in the draft as on the defensive side
of the ball might not even be on offense side
of the ball. So I mean, I wouldn't say that
they didn't improve. I mean they haven't improved yet. If
that's how you're gonna say it, Yeah, I wouldn't say
that they I wouldn't say that they haven't. I mean
with those those picks and that possibility, there's a chance
(14:04):
with those picks and there those possibilities that they will improve.
I mean, what about the reversal here, because during the
season Brady and I were more optimistic on the Chiefs
and you are. I'm not saying I'm optimistic. That's not
true at all. That's not true. I'm not I'm not
saying I'm optimistic about them. I'm just my opinion of
it is is what they were able to receive with
(14:26):
their trade of of tore Hill puts them. I mean, again,
I believe in draft picks. Maybe maybe that's not a
general consensus. I believe in draft picks. So if you
get a lot of us I'm good with that. You
were obviously at this point in time, you were you
were done playing, but you were in d C for
everything with with Robert, you know, Robert Griffin the third
(14:49):
and Washington that time, and those draft picks. The interesting
thing about that is that one year, which would have
been r G three's rookie year, was still farther than
the Rams ever got with all the draft picks they got.
And by the way, it's not that they didn't have
you know, they had some misses, but they also had
some really good picks with those picks. They also had
(15:09):
a number of players for productive pros, etcetera, etcetera. It's
just at the end of the day, I just you know,
I'm not sure if you're gonna go as far just
getting draft picks. I think those draft picks have to
mean something. Yeah, I agree, but I'm willing to take
my chances with them draft picks meaning something. If I
got a part ways, I want draft picks stock, that's all.
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(16:56):
in stores. How about it? How your voice wasn't deep enough?
But we'll take it. Well, listen, you know, I got
a little always, you know, a little little horse today
for the first time in my life. So it's just
first time. Just uptime of the throat, right, yeah, just
a little I'm just saying, you got a little horse. Huh. Yeah,
you are unbelievable. Never stops, absolutely stops. How much money
(17:22):
you guys got on you? You got you got enough
money on you? Like what you mean? I mean you
guys excuse me? Yeah, all morning, we all do Yeah,
working hard here. Now. I was gonna ask you, like,
do you guys carry much cash anymore? I don't care
cash at all. I usually carry like around twenty bucks
(17:45):
or so, just in case, you know, just just trying,
just in case. Yeah, what's that going to do for? Well?
I don't know, like you know, if I you know, likerash,
if I go to a place it doesn't doesn't accept cards,
Like there's some places they don't accept credit, so they
would rather you deal in cash. You know. That's so
like you know, there's there's like the digital wallets now,
(18:07):
like I don't know, I got teenagers, So I'm I'm
like I'm going to do for you to Like if
I if I go pick up the wife and pastries
at at a Mexican market, Um, a lot of you know,
they don't want to use a credit card, so they
you know, I understand the point where there's businesses that
don't use credit, they want to use cash. I'm just
asking it's twenty enough to carry in your pocket. Yeah, yeah, no,
(18:30):
it's enough. I mean, I just you know, you pay,
it's like, you know, five six bucks and you get
to go. You know, if I know I'm going to
a place like that, I'm going to draw the cash out.
If I know I'm going to like a food stand
or a place where they're only taking cash. You know,
ironically enough, we knew exactly where you're if that were
the direction you were going to go in with that
(18:53):
you you would actually do that at a place not there.
It's the funniest thing because ever noticed the terminals there
charge you way more like casinos that casino. They charge
you so much more to draw out money from them.
Think about that. You want to draw out a hundred bucks,
(19:13):
you gotta give him ten bucks? Is that what it
is in the casino? Yes, So you take out two
hundred bucks a cost you twenty bucks. Dude. I found
that out the hard way one time in Vegas. That's
all I know, had way too much to drink. I
saw a bunch of college friends that I had no
idea I was gonna end up running into. They were
playing craps. I was hammered. I went to go grab
(19:35):
some cash. I was looking at it, thinking, my gosh,
that's ridiculous. But if I don't do this, I don't
know what. I don't know where else to to do it. Transaction,
get cash. So i've i've if I want to go gamble,
I gotta go do it. I mean three, I'm not
going to leave the property to go get cash, and
they know it. Three fifty three fifty it's me. It's
(19:55):
like standard operating procedures appalls me, like every time I
see three dollars or three whatever, it's like it's appalling,
Like I'm giving you, I'm paying you for you to
give me my money. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Well,
I just make sure I take something that's worth three
dollars and fifty cents from whatever place I had to
pay for their cash. So that way, at least it's
(20:19):
a small percentage of what you're taking out. Yeah, or
you put something in your pocket when you're at the cash, rightister,
I mean listen you, I mean they want to play
games here, we can play games. Here's here's like, let's
have facts of gum. Let's have a relevant moment here.
Why the hell did you ask? Well, that's because the
Denver Broncos are for seven. We go there, we got
(20:40):
did you not do I not get credit for my
forget you? Forget you Jonas? Thank you, Kiah um sale.
There's a few issues though it's so far reportedly there's
more than five bidders, less than twenties. So let's just
put it somewhere in there. There's there's a lot of bidders. Um,
you gotta have cash, man, if you want to buy
(21:03):
an NFL franchise, it's not about your net worth alright,
net worth obviously a lot of people out there you
can have millions. In this case, you need to have billions.
You need to be liquid. You need to have some
in your pocket, Yeah, like a million in your pocket
(21:23):
to be able to pay for this. So I personally,
and I've said this, I think four billion is the
starting bid. I think it goes up from there. Honestly,
I wouldn't be shocked if if the Broncos didn't sell.
By the way, historic franchise have had a lot of success,
unbelievable City Sports Town. And now you've got Russell Wilson.
(21:47):
Like that price just went up because you've got Russell Wilson.
You've got this this stacked lineup, You've got a guy
who may be there for the next four eight years,
however long it is. That is gonna be a nice
run of wins and money generated off of that. At
(22:07):
least that's my anticipation. That's probably what the Broncos are
selling to a lot of these bidders, and it's one
of the reasons why the price tag probably keeps going up.
The only thing that makes the price tag go down
is they just had a fire up stadium that took
out you know a few of their suites and seats,
and I don't know it's gonna be ready in time
for the season. That being said, though, it's it's it's
(22:29):
gonna go for a lot, a lot of money. The
most recent team was Carolina at two point two billion,
two points just under two point three billion. They sold
for eighteen If you just look around, everything's gone up
in price right just over the last you know, year
and a half. It's gotta be four billion, like it.
I mean, it has to be at least four billion dollars.
(22:49):
And for the Denver Broncos. Look, you're gonna make that
money back just based on all the TV deals, everything
that comes along with it, the Russell Wilson aspect of it.
Uh like all of that stuff. It feels like if
you make four billion back, well, if you pay that
in cash, you see how much how much? Well, it's
(23:10):
it's tough because you don't know. I mean, profits are profits,
but you don't know how those profits are being if
they're being put back into the company, if they're being distributed,
you know, if you're holding on the cash whatever it is.
So I'm not sure you look at it that way,
don't you. What you look at is you look at
the return on your investment, right the r o I,
(23:30):
and then you always have the upside at the end
when you sell. That's what you're gonna get a multiple
of what you bought it for. And I don't have
off the top of my head, you know what, um
what the Bowling family bought it for originally, But I
am sure they're making a at least ten x or
more from what they bought it from four originally that
(23:52):
would be my guests. So it's currently valued, by the way,
but this is based on Forbes at three point seven
five billion dollars. And so just to compare to the
richest person in Colorado, who's Philip and Shuts. So if
if you've heard of and Shuts before, or if you haven't,
I should say you probably actually have, you just haven't
(24:13):
realized it. You guys, ever heard of a E. G.
And Shuts Entertainment? Yeah, So that's the family that basically
owns all the stadium and arenas that you all go
to around the country when you go watch sporting events.
They own a lot of them. They got the money
that well that he's so so Philip and Shuts is
worth about ten billion, and so just to put this
(24:36):
into perspective, you'd have to have of your total value
to be able to be in that instance, right, uh,
the majority owner of the team if you have ten
billion dollars and it would be tied up into a
sports franchise. I saw they were one of a couple
(24:56):
of the names that were mentioned were Tom Brady and
then Peyton Anning potentially tied into you know, being interested
in wanting to be owners. And they quickly pointed out
but they would have a small role because basically they
don't have the money. Those guys, as wealthy as they are,
don't have that type of money. There's different types of wealth.
And Tom Brady and Peyton Manning for for everyday schmucks
(25:17):
like the rest of us will get it and go man,
those guys are really wealthy in comparison to that guy,
a g guy or whatever his name is, not even
not even in the same stratosphere as far as wealth.
To be able to own an NFL it's generally a
passion a family business. It's never for wanting to make money.
It's generally, I won't say never, it's generally not about
(25:40):
making the money when you're owner of a franchise, so
you know it is different money. Jeff Bezos has got
to be one of the guys in contention, right, I
mean it feels like, you know, Joe Ellis was, um,
who's who's kind of running it? All? Is was pretty
confidential about who the bidders were that he was asked about.
(26:00):
John Elway was asked about Peyton Manning and he kind
of he just shoved it off and said, you can
ask those guys about their involvement if any. But that's
the reality is. Um, they're not gonna say who's necessarily
bidding on it. Um, there's probably some liability there that
it could come into play. But I would imagine that,
you know, Payton or or John might be a part
(26:22):
of an ownership group. Right, but you guys pull some
money together to trying to make it happen. Yeah, that's
not unthinkable, I said Tom Brad. And why I said
Tom Brady, I meant John Elway. I have no idea why,
I said Tom Brady. But John always got what like
still four or five car dealerships in Denver. He's got
to look after. Maybe he's a little too busy, I mean,
don't I don't know that. They might just have his name.
He might not have any involvement anymore. There was a
(26:44):
car wash that I used to go do that was
Lenny dike Stros car wash out here in Simi Valley, California.
And it was weird. Um some stuff came out and
then all of a sudden it wasn't his car wash anymore.
I don't know what happened. It's weird how that how
that worked. So apparently you just put your name on
it and don't have to do a whole lot, but
if you get into some trouble, they'll take it away.
It was the famous kicker for the ram shouse. That's uh,
(27:08):
famous kicker for the Rams. He's got a he's got
a restaurant, I frequent. Yeah, there it is, has got
a restaurant. Yeah, it's really good to their food is
really good and they and they go crazy, they go
nuts in there on Sundays. It's a great, great environment.
Shouts out to them. That does the day house. Uh
(27:32):
yeah restaurant. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean? Oh, I
see what you guys are doing. And I'm glad that
Bertoe missed it. Because I just thought, for one for
a second that he would hit the button. You know, well,
I just said, those people are really kind to me
(27:53):
when I go into the restaurant. But yeah, there, I've
just figured out I'd make it easier. I mean, I
I just didn't understand what you're getting at. Now. Can
I ask you guys a question. Do you think somebody's
going to try and haggle on the price because part
of the stadium burnt last week? It's like, it's like
when when you pay for a can of chili that's
dented on the side, you get it for like us
(28:14):
in a buck on the on the you know, the
the aisle. There's a better comparison. Here's what's gonna happen.
Have you ever gone to buy a house, something's wrong
with the house and all that, and you force the
person who's selling to remedy the situation to your satisfaction.
I imagine that's what's gonna happen. They'll say, look, we're
not paying for the improvements to the seeds, the sweets
and all that. Or maybe if you feel like you
(28:35):
have enough leverages to sell or the bullet family, They're like, nope,
you're gonna buy it as is. Despite that, you know,
when you're buying a house, you get in those scenarios too,
So it could go either way, but it definitely will
impact to a degree if they can't get you know,
it fixed in time the revenue for this upcoming year.
I also don't buy the fact that it's not gonna
get fixed in time. The NFL, they've they've got resources.
(28:56):
They can say, well, you know there's you know, shortages
of supplies and things like that. It's the NFL. They
put on games in the middle of a pandemic. They
can get this stadium fixed in time. They got like
six months to figure it out and come together and
make it happen for God's sakes, that's how it works,
all right. It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here.
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I Heart Radio app. We are gonna hear, We're expecting
to hear from live at Jesus here momentarily, I have
no idea what he's even betting on. Is there anything
(30:44):
going on? Is there like spring training games going on
right now that we're not aware of. Is there a
golf tournament you're a golf guy. Is there a golf
tournament somewhere like earlier in the week for a golf tournament,
unless we're talking about some foreign country, I'm not aware
of the soccer maybe right somewhere. If I have no idea,
at some point time there is spring training, it'd be
odd though at this hour, I'm not sure that would
(31:06):
be the direction. Is the cricket somewhere at some point
I don't know? See that's the thing, like I never
know what's going on until the piece of paper falls
from the sky and then I read the wager on
the air. Um, I mean, trust me, if I had
any impact on this, he would lose every week, not
win every week like he does. I'm assuming it's a
he by the way every week. Yeah, you're confusing. He
(31:27):
didn't even win last week. Hey, I don't. I'm not sure.
I mean, I think you know last I remember lie
by Jesus at one like three in a row, and
so so whatever happened at that, If I'm not there,
there was a couple of tweets. I can go back
to the history if you'd like. I don't think that's necessary.
I think just taking taking my word for it is
probably the best approach when it comes that is actually
(31:47):
probably the worst approach. So I don't understand what that's
supposed to mean. I'm I'm as honest as they come.
Uh so, so again we will hear from Lie Bet
Jesus momentarily Fox Sports Radio. It's it's it's confirmed there's
going to be an appearance. I mean, I'm assuming he
(32:08):
never flames coming. Uh he never flames. It's it's raining
shuttlecocks and cash on this fine day March of this year.
You uh you, if I'm not mistaken, you've bet on
to much Jr. Pop off plus ten and a half
over Victor Axelsson in German badminton and you lost or
(32:33):
excuse me, live Bet Jesus, I don't. Yeah, that's weird.
He replied to it as sinner. Okay, right, yeah, well
I do remember now and now now you know, starting
to jog my memory here a little bit. Uh yeah,
he did bet on badminton. That is that is Yeah,
German German badminton. For those of you wondering whether or
not German badminton was ever going to make an appearance
(32:55):
on live radio, it absolutely has. Uh so again we know,
can I did it? Badminton is really really fun to watch.
Badminton is one of the great most underrated summertime activities,
right next to cornhole. I would say badminton and cornhole
the best summertime activities. Absolutely it is. It's gotta love
(33:16):
how you got them being bags? Yeah, what's what's the
matter with you? Get it together? It's real skill to
be able to toss and love them being bags just
just right? What do you go on? Hey, the weather
is starting to heat up. It's it's cornhole season, all
right for a lot of people out there, right, so
(33:37):
I want to play bags. It's cornhole people's season for
a lot of people a year out. Okay, I'm trying
to have an adult conversation and I'm just trying to
finish with v Yeah. There it is. The the the
face of Big New kick off and now the man
who gave a stiff arm on Big New just think
it's all about tossing that being bag to score. What
(34:02):
is wrong with you? Brady Brady, Come out of your guy.
We have lost him, absolutely lost. You never played the
back tossed before? You never played bags, lavarts corn hole.
(34:24):
A lot of people call bags, yeah they never heard. Yeah, exactly,
I've never heard. You've never heard anybody called bags before? No?
All right, well, I mean, you know, get out a
little bit more. Jonas does this because he thinks he's
trying to be like a trendsett I'm not nowhere. I'm like,
I'm not like left handed cigarettes, which bags is called
(34:45):
a d bag had left handed cigarette until I met you. Okay,
what about it? A lung dart cigarette? Ever heard about
lung dart? Alright, I've heard that before. Okay, let's see,
I'm not making stuff up. The green wolf is one
that I hadn't heard, but I think that. What about
the hippie lettuce? Hippie lettuce is real? Yeah, there's there's
(35:09):
that so again, you know, yeah, the booger sugars, Yeah,
that's all right. You know. Bending the elbow a term
for drinking beers, bending the elbow, getting banged up. Brady Brady,
his buddies taught me that one getting banged up if
you're drunk, like when you drank too much. Yeah, I
(35:29):
heard that from Brady's golf tournament. One of this buddy said,
at bang up, you know I've never heard that before. Yeah,
so you never heard that. I have never heard it. LaVar,
Please don't repeat what almost did? Almost did? You almost end? Though.
Roberto is a terrible influence, absolutely horrible influence. Bag tossing,
(35:51):
that's your I don't think I listen. You get a bag,
You get a bag, You get a everybody gets a bag.
There's two right there. Dollar Shaved Club. The Dollar Shave
Club six blade razor brings noticeably smooth shaves with six
stainless steel blades or swift hair removal and a lubricating
(36:14):
strip that keeps saying smooth. Dollar Shaved Club razors are
sold at Dollar Shave Club dot com or in stores. Hey,
how about the Detroit Lions getting picked for hard knocks
and they get the draft. You think there's a coincidence there?
They said, all right, if you guys take hard knocks,
will give you the draft. That works. Brady, You you're
connected there in the NFL's out of this works. Since
nobody wants to be a part of hard knocks that
(36:36):
this happens. I don't know how it works. Um, I
just I feel like we throw out bones to you know,
certain cities and teams that aren't gonna get Super Bowl love. Right,
We're not gonna get a super Bowl Detroit again, probably
until they build a new stake. Um, they just got
the draft in. But it's it's like the NFL's way
(36:56):
of trying to create equity amongst the teams, you know,
So let's let's go ahead and throw out hard knocks here.
We'll give these guys you know, a draft here or there.
But it's just it's not doesn't have the same type
of a lord to it. But I think it'll be entertaining.
But no one ever wants to do hard knocks. Now, hey, Brady, listen,
(37:18):
I don't know what's happening here. And all right now,
all the lights are completely out in the studio. I
can't see anything. Uh there is the TVs are flashing
on and off except for that one over there, and
they're showing something on a on a train apparently. Uh.
And and now there's a there there's a hovering cloud
that is opening up over the studio here and a
piece of paper is falling down onto the desk. Just see.
(37:41):
You know, we're on the up and up here. This
is not a game. This is one of Brady's ideas
where hey, let's do some goofy stuff on the radio,
since you guys want to be broadcasters and I want
to have some fun. Here's the proof there, It is there,
it is. Oh my god, this is a stunner. And
(38:02):
now makes me wonder a couple of things. It is
tonight or this morning, depending on where you are listening
to this program right now. On the twenty ninth of
March two, that I live that Jesus proclaimed the pick
to be Vietnam plus one against Japan in World Cup qualifying.
(38:25):
How about that Brady called it? I mean, apparently I'm
reading it's right here on the paper of our Look
it's right there on the paper. Do they see that.
It's right? It's it's right there. Plus one Vietnam is
plus one against Japan according to this piece of paper
right here. Yeah, I mean, I'm not familiar with that.
I can't confirm any of that inform you. I don't
(38:47):
what are you talking? I'm reading what's on a piece
of paper, like like, why why am I getting my balls? Not?
What is the plus thousand for the money line drawer?
No bet, they're Type one one. Yeah, so I'll begin
plus the spread. It was like, you know what, right,
you don't have to answer that. It's not really important
(39:11):
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