November 23, 2023 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and A Cup of Joe the guys talk Colts Owner Jim Irsay and his recent comments portraying himself as a "white billionaire victim". They also breakdown the RB in the NFL and how this season almost every RB won't be hitting their season overs in yards due to injuries, underperformance, and under use!
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buying should be. All right, Jeff, So, let's dive right
in here. Colts team owner Jim irsay, oh baby, this
is uh.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is a wild one over here.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Right, So Jim irsay, he did a wide ranging interview
with HBO Sports. Yeah, and he was talking about in
September twenty fourteen. He was he was pulled over, right,
and it was one misdemeanor count of operating a vehicle
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while intoxicated. And his view of this whole thing, he said,
I am prejudiced against because I'm a rich, white billionaire.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh boy, yeah, if.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'm the age, I'm sorry Jim mersay that you are.
I know you are oppressed as a white rich billionaire.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yep, yeah, he said.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
If I'm just the average guy down the block, They're
not pulling me, pulling me in, of course not, he said,
pulling me in?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
What what is? It is? Continue?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, so he is.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
These This is why when you like think to yourself,
like why are the colts sometimes not better?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Would be Yeah, you're like their owner is out of
his mind. Out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I mean, imagine being so detached in reality that you
think that a white, rich billionaire is someone targeted.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
By some That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
He goes on and says, I don't care what it
sounds like. It's the truth. I don't give a damn
what people think, how anything sounds or sounds like. The
truth is the truth, and I know the truth. So
he says that he was targeted and it's because he's
a rich, white billionaire. Now a couple of the facts
of this whole thing. Again, we're talking March of twenty fourteen.
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This is the Indianapolis suburb of Carmel, and so police
spotted someone driving a car very slowly stopped in the roadway,
failed to use a turn signal, he failed to field
sobriety tests, couldn't recite the alphabet like, Bro, you're going
(03:11):
in at that point, like nothing to do with you
owning a team or anything. You being a billionaire. You
are going to the clink at that point. That's how
it goes.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I have.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
A family member who's a my wife's family on our side.
That's a police officer. We have read of the police officers.
Let me promise you, man, when they go to pull
you over like that, they're not thinking, well, this is
jim irsay in the car. Let's get him. Everybody right,
let's get jim irsay yeah, man, like you were inebriated,
like this is just take take take to l which
(03:49):
I think he has, right, I mean, I think he's
sobered up, right. That's that's I think one of the
outcomes of this. I didn't watch the interview yet, But
I think that's right. I know you you're in Indianapolis
sports a lot a lot closer than eye. But he
has sobered up, right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes, yeah he has, but so like it doesn't sound
like it, no, I.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Know, So just like take take the l you got.
You just apologize, you know, be be contrite about it,
be honest about what happened, and then like move it along.
But that's that's just out of touch with reality. And
then you get the football part of it. This is
sort of why the team is bad of touch with
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reality too. Right. You have an owner who is way
too involved in the process, and when you see him
do interviews like this and you listen to him talk
and you wonder, well, why is my team not doing
better when my owners is involved? This is why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And man, you flash back to the Andrew Luck era, like,
like again, think about what he did early on in
his career without anything resembling a good offensive line, a
crazy team owner, and Andrew Luck is just bagging himself
up and down the field. They go to the playoffs
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the first three years he's in the NFL. That makes
it even more impressive what he was able to do
and they had the number one pick, right, they were
I think two and fourteen the year prior when they
got Andrew Luck. It's incredibly impressive what he was able
to do. I don't like how he retired like fifteen
days before the season or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But what he was able to do statistically, stacking wins,
getting to the playoffs with that much chaos around him,
it's remarkable. And think about what the Colts have been
since Andrew Luck. They have been an absolute grease fire.
And you're right, Jeff, a lot of that connects directly
to Jim Mersey. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, I don't remember Angeloux's first playoff game. It was
a blur. I think in my head, what was it again?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
To you?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, I don't remember that game for some reason. I
know the last time I remember, we were up thirty
eight ten. That's all I remember, and then just blacked out.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
What was it was like the forty five forty four
Fish game something like that.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
That's exactly what it was. We were up thirty eight
ten the third quarter and lost. It's nearly impossible to
do in the NFL, So I can't believe. He went
on did an interview and said that he is an
oppressed rich, rich white owner.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That alone right there.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of just you know, being a rich white billionaire does
have its drawbacks, like.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Just just to begin with, this is how I'm going
to frame this whole argument.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Man oh old old Jim Mersey. Yeah, Real Sports is
the last episode, right, isn't it like coming to the
close pretty soon?
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, which is It's very much. I've enjoyed Real Sports
over the years. They did a really good job. I
gotta watch this now, I haven't. I haven't watched this episode.
I gotta watch jimmrsay just babble around about about being
oppressed an umpressed persons here.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeahites from that.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
It just shows you this is the exact point we've
made about some teams like ownership. The best teams are
run by owners that that are pretty much hands off. Now.
You know, Robert Kraft is you know, the face of
the Patriots, but he also is not there every day
as his main job. Right, A lot of owners have
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other jobs like this is not their main jobs, not
being you know, the owner of a team, which I
don't think is jimmersay is number one thing he does anyways.
But like you know, the Giants are a team that
actually and you know their owners, their business is the
Giants football. That's what. That's what, that's the business. For
the most part, it's not. But you see these owners
that are way too involved. For example, I live in Charlotte.
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David Tepper is a he's a finance guy. What does
he know about running a football team? Like, your job
is to hire people to help you run that football
team and then trust that the people that you hired
are the ones that are going to, you know, to
run your organization in the right way. When you get
involved in the process, you're not watching the film. You're
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not paying attention to cap. You know, like when you
when you inject yourself in the process, when it's not
your day job, you're not there every day, you lose.
Like there's no no winning organization is is controlled by
an owner who thinks he knows better than the people
he's hired to do the business right. Yeah, Clark Hunt,
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the Chiefs owner, he lives in Dallas. I think they
fly in the game and fly home. But do you
think he's telling Andy Reid and Brett vich who to
draft and who to pick up. Now, I understand if
you're drafting a quarterback first overall or in the first round.
I understand your owner being part of that process. That
that's the face of your franchise. The owner should be
part of the determining whether or not that person is
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can be just qualified to be the face of your franchise.
But everything else, like, let let your staff do it.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and think about this too, Jeff, where man, you
compare just the Giants to the Colts.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Think about this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So the Giants were at a contract stalemate with Saquon Barkley, right,
and the Colts were at a contractual stale mate with
Jonathan Taylor. And think about how both teams handled that
so much differently. You had jim irsay the oppressed white
billionaire owner, right, like you had Jim irsay tweeting stuff
(09:39):
about the running back market is what it is. Spare
me your tears. You know, he got involved heavily. Next thing,
you know, Jonathan Taylor's like, get me out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's a whole thing. He made it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Way more complicated than it ever needed to be. Meanwhile,
the Giants there weren't any crazy tweets or statements or
anything about the running back market as a whole or
Saquon Barkley specifically, and that thing got ironed out much
much easier. Jim Mersey's fingerprints were all over that whole
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calamity being what it was.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
That just shows how he's running a team and it's
it's not smoothly by any means.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And I think that what makes it, you know, like
even even more dragging with that situation is they didn't
have pay Jonathon Taylor and the Giants ended up not
paying a sakon on me in the game, a one
year deal the game, I think a million dollars more
than he probably was going to get it into a
franchise tag. But like they ended up giving in anyways,
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and the Giants did not give in, which I think
I think is the way to do it. Let me
look at the Giants, now, can you imagine if you
had paid, if you had paid like Saquon Barkley, what's
happening this season for your team? Like can you imagine
having to be on the hook for your running back
next season? Like saying they're on the hook for Daniel
Jones next season and they're gonna draft a quarterback most likely,
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and so Jim Ursay is not even doing the business
part of it well as well. So it's just I
feel like culture and a bat situation. I mean, they
got they had paid Manning, which you know they drafted
and he sort of obviously won him a lot football games.
They ruined Andrew Luck and they have done nothing since then. Yeah,
you know, I think I do think that change seconds
a good coach. Ar Andy Richard might be good one
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day obviously, just you know, injured this year.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, It's it shows you how much and this is
not breaking news, but the right quarterback means for your franchise.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You know, you could have chaos going on around.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You, and if you've got a baller, it's it's a
huge leg up and you could have That's the other thing.
You could have stability. You could have good ownership if
you don't have a quarterback. Look at the Steelers, right,
like the Steelers have great ownership stability.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And Kenny Pickett is just a guy. So far. We've
got a special Thanksgiving treat for you though.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Here Jeff, we have got the audio of Jim Irsay's
interview with Bryant gumbel here.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh, here you go.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Would you like to hear this? Here we go here? Yeah,
here's what Jim.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Irsay says about his twenty fourteen run in with the Fudds,
if you will check it out.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Was that the low point for you?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
No?
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Not really, because the arrest was wrong. I had just
had kip surgery and been in the car for forty
five minutes and what they asked me to walk the line?
Are you kidding me? I can barely walk it all.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So you're saying you couldn't walk because you'd had the
hip surgery, not because you were on any kind of killers.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I mean, I'm not saying that as a fact.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So why did you plead to the misdemeanor just.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
To get it over with?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Look at I am prejudiced against because I'm a rich,
white billionaire if I'm just the average guy down the
block pulling me and of course that do.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know what it's going to sound like if people
hear you say they're prejudiced against a rich don't.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It sounds like it's the truth.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I don't you know, Andrea, I could give a damn
what people think. Anything sounds it sounds like the truth
is the truth.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And I know the truth. Okay, when you say the
truth is what it is, I know my own truth.
That's that's.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Every time someone says you just ignore the rest of
what they're gonna say, it's an immediate hard pass. You're like,
I know the truth. It's in deep in me and
I know it, and you don't. It's like, well that
that's not a thing. That's the thing. People say that
they have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Very good by Andrea Kramer, though, that was very.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I've had many surgeries, all right, I've never driven high
on painkillers before, so you know the idea that you
know that's the reason why you're on high painkillers. I mean,
I should be you should be driving, buddy. You're a billionaire,
call call a driver. You don't have a driver on
standby for yourself. There's no excuse if anyone are drinking
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and drive obviously now or be obviously you know, high
on pay medicine. When when you have options to go
pick you up now and you're a billionaire, you have
a you have a driver. Where are we going?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's I don't know why there's this disconnect. If he
was drinking it'd be immediate, like, bro, why are you driving?
But it's like if you're hopped up on pain killers,
it's the same freaking thing. You're inebriated, you're not lucid,
you know what I mean, Like you're completely right.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's I mean living that scene from from a Wolf
of Wall Street, right, I mean you take those that's
I can imagine. Jim ur said that that's how he
was driving that and that. But of course, like the
best part about that is that that's exactly how he
thinks it happened, right. He thinks he drove home and
was and was in a not in an apparent state,
(15:01):
and then you have the flashback. It's like, no, buddy,
you're you're on lots and of course you're gonna look
like you'll know what you're you know, you're gonna drive
over a place. So I don't know if it was
body cam footage of that arrest or anything like that
would be interesting to see just from a you know,
a perspective of you know, how how intoxicatedor neebraid was
he and keeps saying intoxicated, but neebraded because he wasn't intoxicated.
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So God the rich white owner I found. I'm looking
at Twitter right now, the video.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's like, it's insane, it's crazy. It's it's wild, man,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I know my own truth.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah yeah, I know the truth. I don't care how
it sound.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So it's like, bro, you gotta be right, you know
what I mean? And he's not close to being right.
That's the that's one of the shames of this whole thing.
We got a lot to do. Jeff coming up next.
It's an interesting take from a former player that's gotten
quite a bit of traction. We'll get to that momentarily.
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I'm Pribban. No, he's Jeff Schwartz.
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thoughts were about. This is Tom Brady. He was on
with Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Smith and what he was hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
By the way, what I like, what a what a pairy?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think that I gotta What do you mean by that? Jeff?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I just like I mean, I mean, was there a
word when you thought like Tom Brady on Steven A.
Smith's podcast? Just you know, I think those words two
years agould have been never said, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Here we are here, we are in the Year of
Our Lord twenty twenty three. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But Brady had a lot of thoughts on what he
said is a mediocre NFL product, Yes you will, Yeah,
so check out this is what he had to say.
It's about a minute long, but listen carefully because he
makes several points.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Here. Here's Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL.
I don't see the excellence that I saw in the past.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Why not and why not?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I think the coaching isn't as good as it was.
I don't think the development of young players is as
good as it was. The rules have allowed a lot
of bad habits to get into the actual performance of
the game. So I just think the product, in my opinion,
is less than what it's been. I think I look
at a lot of players like ray Lewis and Rodney
Harrison and Ronnie Lott and guys that impacted the game
in a certain way, and every hit they would have
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made would have been a penalty. Your coach is complaining
about their own player being tackling and not necessarily, why
don't they talk to their player about how to protect themselves.
We used to work on the fundamental of those things
all the time. Now they're trying to be regulated all
the time. Offensive players need to protect them, Selling, it's
not the defensive player to protect offensive player. A defensive
needs to protect and sell. I didn't throw the ball
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to certain areas because I was afreak. Players are gonna
get knocked out. That's the reality. I didn't throw it
to the middle when I played ray Lewis because you
knock him out of the game and I couldn't afford
to lose a good player.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Have you seen that gift of Grandpa Simpson yelling at
the cloud? Is that gift before? No? No, I don't,
but it does. It does sound like that, right.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
The thing that Tom Brady is I think trying to say,
and I think I've said for many years now, and
why and the NFL is not the same. There's two things,
and I think they're both related. One is that we
just have less practice time. There's less it's it's almost
cut of half. Now. I'm not advocating for two days,
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trust him. I've been through that. I don't think we
need to go back to that. But we're to point
now where you know, every fourth day you get a
day off. Every third day is a uh, you know,
an easy practice because the GPS is tell you. You
got to keep guys fresher. You're not in the building
of the off season as much anymore. Right, we used
(21:08):
to be in ten weeks, four days a week. That's
not the way it is anymore. You know, we used
to even just like it didn't it kind of you know,
we used to have team bonding events more often. We
used to because we were we were with each other
all the time, like there was you know, you were
always sort of with each other and you're always you know,
(21:29):
in the locker room together and always you know, going
to team meals and hanging out together. And we used
to we used to to watch film more together, guys
on their iPads. That's the one thing that actually railed
against for a long time now is like I think
that the communication and this is a very specific offensive
line thing, it's not as good anymore between offensive line
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players because they don't sit and watch film together. We
used to have to we have iPads. Like in the NFL,
we had to have to sit brian together as an
offensive line and walk to film in the morning after practice.
Piece we didn't have iPads. We couldn't go home and
watch it home. We had to watch with each other
we'd to watch with the quarterback, right, we could watch
the blitz stuff with the quarterback pose. There was no
iPad to go home to watch. And all of these
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things have made the game a little bit sloppier because look,
you have to practice, we know this, right, You have
to practice to be better. Practice, you don't practice much,
not going to be as good. So and then the injuries, right,
so injuries this season are just like ridiculous and a
lot of quarterback position. And look, I don't know what
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the data says as far as the less practice time
is more injuries, but it does feel like, figure, this's
a feel and I'm sure someone will be like, Ah Schwartz,
I saw the data says something different, but it does
feel like as we have less in practice time, there
have been more NFL injuries on the whole. Yeah, and
again because you when you practice. When you practice, you
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practice putting your body in stressful situations that you will
have to be in on Sundays, and your body gets
used to be in the situations and be able to
you know, to to you know to to to play
and get used to your body being toorted in weird
ways and getting you know, and getting pressure in those
weird ways on your body. So other than Tom Brady's
(23:23):
onto something. But I will say though, if quarterback injuries
next season are limited, that we don't complain about this
at all. Right, It's just that it happens that this
year everyone's hurt and then even the good players like
Patrick Mahomes aren't playing as well. It's not Mahomes's fault,
per se, and so the product is not isn't as
(23:44):
good this season. Those are all contriving. I'm with Tom Brady.
There's all contributing factors. It's just when Tom Brady says
it sounds like an old man, you know, being upset
about it. Back in my day, Back in my day,
we practiced it out.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's funny too. It back in my day was last year. Yeah, year,
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I was. I came to the NFL in two thousand
and eight, and then time Brady with two thousand and one.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Two thousand because one was his first. Yeah you're starting.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
So look, we used to practice like freaking crazy, right,
We double days, full pads, you know, it was. It
was in training camp was intense, right, And I'm not
advocating to go back to that intense training camp. But
you got a lot of working man, got a lot
of work in Think about my position, the offensive line position.
You know your your Dolphins unfortunately have had injuries over
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the offensive line for so many years now. And the
backups are the backups at all adequate answers, And that
is always no, you never back and part of it
is And look, I was a seventh round pick. I
was on practice for my first year. I don't know
if I would have made the NFL if I didn't
have practice to get better.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Sure, there's no practice anymore. The practice is cut in half.
You're you're hitting is cut in half. You don't hit
anymore in practice. You don't tackle, you don't. And it
is fairly interesting when you look at the winning programs,
both college football and the NFL, and the one thing
they have in common, Brian, is they still hit in practice.
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Dan Lane, not Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart. You know Dan Lanning,
Organ does hit, but Kirby Smart, Nick Saban, you know
their physical defensive guys that hit it practice. You still
hits it practice. Andy Freakin Reid does live tackling periods
in training camps.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Still the players talk about this they do these like
drills and practice.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's well it's called it's long drive drill.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And long drive drill.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah yeah, and they're just gassed, I mean just dead.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It prepares them for the season.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
It is, it's it's it's a lot. It's it's about
twenty plays in a row, twenty plays straight. Now, obviously
offensively there's no rest. The defensive guys get a little bit.
I think the defense guys a little bit in that period,
but we're we're twenty plays in a row on offense,
no rest, and that's long drive drill and gets you
(26:09):
ready for the season. So Indie ritsl does these things.
Nick Saban Kirby smart, Yeah, and well I know it's
not for everyone, but I still think that that has
a positive impact on your chance to win football games,
and that teams don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Well, you know, I thought of the movie Desperado with
Antonio Banderaz and.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
His and his guitar full of weapons.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, that's guitar full of weapons right there. But he
says during the movie at one point he's telling this
little kid, He's like I told you man, all day,
every day, he's telling him to play guitar and practice
a lot. And I just thought of that randomly while
you're talking about practicing as a football player. If you're
not practicing the way you once did in the NFL, right,
(27:00):
you're not going to get better.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It's a simple concept.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But imagine a guitarist who's just like, you know what,
I'm not going to practice that much and hope to
be really good guitar.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Something where Johnny Depp goes blind by the end is
like the Desprado.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
No, no, no, Johnny Depp. No, it's Antonio banderashyak No.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I know, I know, But isn't there isn't there isn't something.
It's a maybe a different movie with Antonio Vendera. Isn't
it interesting? Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Nonetheless, I'm going through the Johnny Depp catalog in my mind.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I'm curious what movie you're talking.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Maybe maybe maybe someone else in the movie goes blind. Nonetheless,
it is uh, I'm with you, like, you have to practice.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, you gotta practice.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Let's pick this back up, Jeff, because there's one other
part of this that I think we have to point out.
With what Tom Brady's talking about with the mediocre NFL
product if you will, first though, Kevin Wired to spin
us around the sporting landscape on Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you, keV.
What's going on giving.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
You guys to can't wait for the feast I'm gonna
get to have this afternoon, so we'll.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Be playing of football on the watch while we're all.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Eating the turkey, the stuffing, cranberry sauce, whatever pie you
might have for dessert. A lot to look forward to
as well as the NFL. Do we have some updates
for the games today? The Packers confirming that Aaron Jones
is out for today's game against the Lions, so he
will not be on the feat be on the field.
Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll. He did say on Wednesday
(28:35):
that he expects quarterback Gino Smith to start tonight against
the forty nine Ers. That comes after Smith miss most
of the fourth quarter last Sunday against the Rams. He
had a shoulder injury that he sustained on a big
hit from Aaron Donald. Much of the sports action happened
last night. The day before Thanksgiving saw a lot of
NBA action. Big matchup in the Eastern Conference between the
(28:59):
Celtics and Bucks, and it's Boston winning it by three.
One nineteen won sixteen, so the Celtics now twelve and
three on the season. Jalen Brown twenty six points and
eight assists in the win for Boston. The Heat over
the Cavaliers won twenty nine ninety six as Kyle Lowry
had twenty eight points. Nuggets fall to the Magic one
twenty four, one to nineteen to Spy a triple double
(29:20):
from Nikola Jokic thirty points, thirteen rebounds and at twelve assis.
Timberwolves beat the seventy six ers one twelve ninety nine.
Pelicans over the Kings won seventeen one to twelve. Thunder
get a big game again from Jay Gilgess Alexander with
a forty points, twelve assists in three blocks as they
beat the Bulls won sixteen one oh two.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The Clippers over the Spurs one oh nine, one oh two.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
The most notable thing in that game didn't even happen
on the court, at least not during the game. It
was Greg Popovich grabbing the microphone to a cost his
fans for booing Kawhi Leonard, and of course they reacted
by booing him even harder, but he did go have
twenty six points, says. The Clippers again do win it
by seven one o nine, one oh two Sons over
(30:05):
the Warriors one twenty three, one point fifteen. Chris Paul
ejected in the second quarter after he picked up a
couple of technicols, so his return to the desert ends hastily,
and the Mavericks over the Lakers one o four one
oh one, LA racing a twenty point devasit even taking
a two point lead over a minute to go, but
then Kyrie Irving hitting a three pointer to making a
(30:27):
one point lead.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The Lakers in.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
Response turned the ball over Kyrie Irving foul that would
make two free throws to increase it to three, and
there was only a second left for the Lakers to
try to win it and unable to hit that three pointer,
as the Mavericks do win it one O four, one
oh one.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Back to you guys, Thank you, Kevi.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's Brian though and Jeff Schwartz on Fox Sports Radio
in for two Bros and a cup of Joe. We're
live here from the Tireck dot Com studios. I just
looked it up, jee, what's.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Up on f in Mexico. It's a Desperado sequel.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Really, I've never seen that movie.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, that's you Doos. Yeah, so I was. I was
the same sort of the same thing. I was scared
was the wrong movie.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
You're in the same ballpark.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, this thing about Tom Brady talking about it's a
mediocre product in the NFL right now, I was thinking
back to what we were talking about earlier on the show,
which is the rules changing we're thinking about as a
defensive player, if we're talking about outlawing the hip drop tackle, yeah,
(31:27):
if you're you know, like you're trying to catch someone
from behind, you wrap them up around the hip and
you sink your hips and you might land on his leg.
They're talking about outlawing that, or the strike zone, or
not landing on a quarterback, or just all the rule
changes that are present today compared to what Tom Brady mentioned.
(31:48):
He mentioned Ronnie Lott, ray Lewis, Rodney Harrison, and he
said himself, he's like, those guys couldn't play in today's game.
That's the shame to me, is with the f of
the rules, you're talking about some all time greats, Ronnie Lott,
ray Lewis, They couldn't reach their full potential in today's
(32:10):
NFL with the rules being what they are, and when
you're not able to hit someone in today's game like
you were back then, Yeah, there's a trickle down effect.
There's a ripple effect. Well, how do you bring the
guy down to the ground. It's gonna make your fundamentals
look even worse than they actually are.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
The only thing that the only push better have on.
Like a guy ray Lewis think he'd be good any generation,
like he would just figure it out and and and so,
like you know, he figured it out.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I think that's not that it can Ronnie Lott might
figure it out too, but.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Different type of player. Obviously, you're not gonna have the
same type of player.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You can't just declet a guy who's you know this
quote unquote defenseless receiver. Now, there were no defenseless receivers
when Ronnie Lott was out there.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
You know, it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I think we're near the same agember, like the I
mean jacked up segments like did you used to vote?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Oh yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Was a voted segment each week, the players getting bically knocked.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Out, yes, and the whole crew at the same time.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
They'd be like you got checked up. You would never
have that.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
It was like it was like segment two weekly hits.
It knocked out the knocked out offensive players, Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And probably all the hits you might have had concussions involved.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
And it's completely different now.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
And I think that obviously you know that the being
you know, being protective of players is the way to go.
But yeah, it was that used to be. Like what
we celebrated was Ronnie Lott, right, it was these hits,
you know, John Lynch was these hits that just used
to rep dudes.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Right, But think about that. If you can't do that anymore,
what do you do?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Like, so can't hit I can't hit low uh right.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So it makes your fundamentals look even worse. How do
you tackle legally in today's NFL? It's not nearly as
easy as it once was in previous eras no, when
the rules it was like the wild wild West compared
to now.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
But it's sort of the point about like two, if
you're going to change the rules, which again I mean
it's totally within your prograt have to do for the NFL,
then you're not allowing players the time to practice the
new rules rights because there's less practice time. So both
things I think are.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Correlated, absolutely no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I can never, by the way, I use the word
correlated again without thinking about our guy built. There's there's
no way to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That is stephen A has the it's fluid, it's fluid.
Crack is it's correlated. It's all correlated right here with
my same game parlay.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, I wonder what he's doing today when you send
him a text about what actually has got today?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh man, Yeah, he's got to be on a dog.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Maybe he's on Washington.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah, thirteen and a half. I think he's on He
has to be on Washington.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
He's probably on Washington, just.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Walking the casino and Thanksgiving and put that a good cool, cool,
you know, twenty two hundred on it.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, this was just in my shoe, you know, it
was in my pocket. Is the loose change over here?
Give me a you know, a couple of dimes on
Washington plus thirteen and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
That's our guy crack from.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
My dad asked me recently what a peanut bet for
crack is?
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Is what a peanut is yeah, and I was like,
I think it's I think it's twenty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
No, I think it's five hundred. I think it's five
hundred bucks. I think it's a nickel for crack that.
I think that's what he calls a peanut peanut bet.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Okay yeh because I know that, Like he'll do his
standard unit. But he stared unit is like all over it,
he said us bets ups before like it can be.
I think it's between two and five thousand. It's sort
of a standard.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, he's it's probably like thirty three hundred, right with
the juice that tall right right, Yeah, I think that's
more so his standard.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's either twenty two or thirty three.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Yeah, So he's the best. I love Crack. I hope
we get to do some in person stuff this year
with him.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I do too, man, I hope we have a road
yeah some really so.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
But yeah, correlated correlated parlays, guys, if you do one today.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Good luck, It's all correlated, absolutely all right, coming up next,
Hopefully you have many options on your Thanksgiving menu, right,
We've got a lot of options in the prop bet
market as well. We've got to go over this right
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All right, Jeff, So, three NFL games on the menu today.
(37:19):
We got a lot of prop bet options, many prop
bet options. You know we always hone in on quarterback
rushing yardage? Yes, what do you think about old crazy legs,
Jared Goff? Today it's set at a yard and a half.
Get to two yards rushing.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Though, No, Well, this is a thing. There's a big,
big neo potential here to ruin your day a man, Yeah, right,
like Neil the last three plays the game day round
day ruin. Well, I mean I think Geno Smith, anything
you get with him under feels like, oh way to
(37:57):
go right. I mean, he's no guarantees even healthy to
play this game. It's right and a half. Do I
see right now? I'd be playing fund going under? There?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Go under on a Gino right there.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, you watched the game last week where he was
his whole right arm was just wrapped in this you know,
this bandage type thing. He's looking up at the heavens
and pain like, oh it hurts so bad, the triceps
contusion right there, So listen, I'm with you, man makes
(38:31):
it the whole game.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
There's a you know, I have to do the the
offshort thing. Where I live, there's no number for like
Cowboys sacks.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Probably is probably is like four and a half. I
mna bet the over on that one.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I could absolutely see the over hitting in that one,
unless you're doing just a bunch of quick stuff with Sam.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
House do that though, though I know they're just like
let's go and step and air it.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Out.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
It's like, we don't have time to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Ah, screw it, Like we'll have some time at some point, right,
Like what do you have for fifteen times?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
What do you I don't have I don't see right now.
For Sam Howell attempts.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
So it's at thirty nine and a half high. But
that that's it, goes all the averages. Yeah, yeah, that's bro.
They just throw it and throw it and throw it
and throw it. Brian Robinson's rushing prop is at forty
three and a half. That's his yardage prop. Bet right there.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Who's Brian Robinson the Washington running back? Right?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Forty three and a half. Well, it's not a whole lot, right,
and Brian Robinson is good. It's just they don't give
them the ball a whole heck of a lot. They're like, Sam,
air it out, do what you do, man, take us
to the promised land.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
In the early game, I kind of think that, I
mean Dylan to go over it would be right.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
They got to run the.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Ball forty seven and a half yards.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, and you don't have a j you don't have
Jones back there, Jones.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
I kind of like that. Actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna
hit on that right now.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You might might roll with that.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, So you know, I think I told you before
the season ended up doing taking every running back under
in the NFL. Yeah, I can find for sorry running
backs and like it's gonna do very well, you know,
like Aaron Jones.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Like again like a lot of wear and tear man.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I hate unders, but like this is like Aaron Jones
is going to be out how many weeks now?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You think, I don't know. It's a sprained mcl so yeah,
probably he has two.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Hundred and forty five yards right now, and I have
I have under eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah that's yeah, depending on how long he's out, that
might be a no sweat cash right there, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, I mean even like guys that are like starting
like I have I have Madison under for the for
them looking at my under nine hundred and point five,
he has five hundred and forty two right now, it
feels yeah, I mean, but he's had last week was
the most of had all season though not most, but
(41:12):
he hit. He went ninety three ninety five in October
September October, they went twenty six forty four, thirty nine
thirty one forty four, twenty seven eighty one. Like, you know,
I'm in I think I'm in a good spat with
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
How about David Montgomery, the Lion's running back today.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna I think I'm gonna lose my under
on him.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
He's had a really good season and uh but you
know you get the one two combination with Montgomery and
Jamiir Gibbs, you know. So that's what I hate sometimes
if you take the over on a running back and
it's just not their series, you know what I mean,
depending on where they are in the game. It's like, shoot,
(41:55):
I need like three more yards and my guy is out.
It's the other guy who's in there. Sometimes you just
come up short when it comes to that.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
That's why running back stuff, I think it's so hard
to take over as unless you specifically know that guy
is going to be the the belkout the day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
It's like Christian McCaffrey, he should be the guy to
not unless they have a like a healthy lead. Yeah,
and then he put in Mitchell and you come up
short there.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Man, I like what you're thinking with Gino. I think
that's a good place to start and Sam Howell attempts
aj Dillon over.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah, there's some options right there. Yeah, absolutely some options.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
We got more on the football schedule coming up. We'll
get to uh more about the games today and a
little bit beyond here in Week twelve. Hang with us
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buying should be. All right, Jeff, So, let's dive right
in here. Colts team owner Jim irsay, oh baby, this
is uh.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is a wild one over here.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Right, So Jim irsay, he did a wide ranging interview
with HBO Sports. Yeah, and he was talking about in
September twenty fourteen. He was he was pulled over, right,
and it was one misdemeanor count of operating a vehicle
(01:30):
while intoxicated. And his view of this whole thing, he said,
I am prejudiced against because I'm a rich, white billionaire.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh boy, yeah, if.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'm the age, I'm sorry Jim mersay that you are.
I know you are oppressed as a white rich billionaire.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yep, yeah, he said.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
If I'm just the average guy down the block, They're
not pulling me, pulling me in, of course not, he said,
pulling me in?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
What what is? It is? Continue?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, so he is.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
These This is why when you like think to yourself,
like why are the colts sometimes not better?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Would be Yeah, you're like their owner is out of
his mind. Out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I mean, imagine being so detached in reality that you
think that a white, rich billionaire is someone targeted.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
By some That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
He goes on and says, I don't care what it
sounds like. It's the truth. I don't give a damn
what people think, how anything sounds or sounds like. The
truth is the truth, and I know the truth. So
he says that he was targeted and it's because he's
a rich, white billionaire. Now a couple of the facts
of this whole thing. Again, we're talking March of twenty fourteen.
(02:50):
This is the Indianapolis suburb of Carmel, and so police
spotted someone driving a car very slowly stopped in the roadway,
failed to use a turn signal, he failed to field
sobriety tests, couldn't recite the alphabet like, Bro, you're going
(03:11):
in at that point, like nothing to do with you
owning a team or anything. You being a billionaire. You
are going to the clink at that point. That's how
it goes.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I have.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
A family member who's a my wife's family on our side.
That's a police officer. We have read of the police officers.
Let me promise you, man, when they go to pull
you over like that, they're not thinking, well, this is
jim irsay in the car. Let's get him. Everybody right,
let's get jim irsay yeah, man, like you were inebriated,
like this is just take take take to l which
(03:49):
I think he has, right, I mean, I think he's
sobered up, right. That's that's I think one of the
outcomes of this. I didn't watch the interview yet, But
I think that's right. I know you you're in Indianapolis
sports a lot a lot closer than eye. But he
has sobered up, right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes, yeah he has, but so like it doesn't sound
like it, no, I.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Know, So just like take take the l you got.
You just apologize, you know, be be contrite about it,
be honest about what happened, and then like move it along.
But that's that's just out of touch with reality. And
then you get the football part of it. This is
sort of why the team is bad of touch with
(04:26):
reality too. Right. You have an owner who is way
too involved in the process, and when you see him
do interviews like this and you listen to him talk
and you wonder, well, why is my team not doing
better when my owners is involved? This is why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And man, you flash back to the Andrew Luck era, like,
like again, think about what he did early on in
his career without anything resembling a good offensive line, a
crazy team owner, and Andrew Luck is just bagging himself
up and down the field. They go to the playoffs
(05:03):
the first three years he's in the NFL. That makes
it even more impressive what he was able to do
and they had the number one pick, right, they were
I think two and fourteen the year prior when they
got Andrew Luck. It's incredibly impressive what he was able
to do. I don't like how he retired like fifteen
days before the season or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But what he was able to do statistically, stacking wins,
getting to the playoffs with that much chaos around him,
it's remarkable. And think about what the Colts have been
since Andrew Luck. They have been an absolute grease fire.
And you're right, Jeff, a lot of that connects directly
to Jim Mersey. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, I don't remember Angeloux's first playoff game. It was
a blur. I think in my head, what was it again?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
To you?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, I don't remember that game for some reason. I
know the last time I remember, we were up thirty
eight ten. That's all I remember, and then just blacked out.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
What was it was like the forty five forty four
Fish game something like that.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
That's exactly what it was. We were up thirty eight
ten the third quarter and lost. It's nearly impossible to
do in the NFL, So I can't believe. He went
on did an interview and said that he is an
oppressed rich, rich white owner.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That alone right there.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of just you know, being a rich white billionaire does
have its drawbacks, like.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Just just to begin with, this is how I'm going
to frame this whole argument.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Man oh old old Jim Mersey. Yeah, Real Sports is
the last episode, right, isn't it like coming to the
close pretty soon?
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, which is It's very much. I've enjoyed Real Sports
over the years. They did a really good job. I
gotta watch this now, I haven't. I haven't watched this episode.
I gotta watch jimmrsay just babble around about about being
oppressed an umpressed persons here.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeahites from that.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
It just shows you this is the exact point we've
made about some teams like ownership. The best teams are
run by owners that that are pretty much hands off. Now.
You know, Robert Kraft is you know, the face of
the Patriots, but he also is not there every day
as his main job. Right, A lot of owners have
(07:33):
other jobs like this is not their main jobs, not
being you know, the owner of a team, which I
don't think is jimmersay is number one thing he does anyways.
But like you know, the Giants are a team that
actually and you know their owners, their business is the
Giants football. That's what. That's what, that's the business. For
the most part, it's not. But you see these owners
that are way too involved. For example, I live in Charlotte.
(07:54):
David Tepper is a he's a finance guy. What does
he know about running a football team? Like, your job
is to hire people to help you run that football
team and then trust that the people that you hired
are the ones that are going to, you know, to
run your organization in the right way. When you get
involved in the process, you're not watching the film. You're
(08:18):
not paying attention to cap. You know, like when you
when you inject yourself in the process, when it's not
your day job, you're not there every day, you lose.
Like there's no no winning organization is is controlled by
an owner who thinks he knows better than the people
he's hired to do the business right. Yeah, Clark Hunt,
(08:38):
the Chiefs owner, he lives in Dallas. I think they
fly in the game and fly home. But do you
think he's telling Andy Reid and Brett vich who to
draft and who to pick up. Now, I understand if
you're drafting a quarterback first overall or in the first round.
I understand your owner being part of that process. That
that's the face of your franchise. The owner should be
part of the determining whether or not that person is
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can be just qualified to be the face of your franchise.
But everything else, like, let let your staff do it.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and think about this too, Jeff, where man, you
compare just the Giants to the Colts.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Think about this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So the Giants were at a contract stalemate with Saquon Barkley, right,
and the Colts were at a contractual stale mate with
Jonathan Taylor. And think about how both teams handled that
so much differently. You had jim irsay the oppressed white
billionaire owner, right, like you had Jim irsay tweeting stuff
(09:39):
about the running back market is what it is. Spare
me your tears. You know, he got involved heavily. Next thing,
you know, Jonathan Taylor's like, get me out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's a whole thing. He made it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Way more complicated than it ever needed to be. Meanwhile,
the Giants there weren't any crazy tweets or statements or
anything about the running back market as a whole or
Saquon Barkley specifically, and that thing got ironed out much
much easier. Jim Mersey's fingerprints were all over that whole
(10:13):
calamity being what it was.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
That just shows how he's running a team and it's
it's not smoothly by any means.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And I think that what makes it, you know, like
even even more dragging with that situation is they didn't
have pay Jonathon Taylor and the Giants ended up not
paying a sakon on me in the game, a one
year deal the game, I think a million dollars more
than he probably was going to get it into a
franchise tag. But like they ended up giving in anyways,
(10:43):
and the Giants did not give in, which I think
I think is the way to do it. Let me
look at the Giants, now, can you imagine if you
had paid, if you had paid like Saquon Barkley, what's
happening this season for your team? Like can you imagine
having to be on the hook for your running back
next season? Like saying they're on the hook for Daniel
Jones next season and they're gonna draft a quarterback most likely,
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and so Jim Ursay is not even doing the business
part of it well as well. So it's just I
feel like culture and a bat situation. I mean, they
got they had paid Manning, which you know they drafted
and he sort of obviously won him a lot football games.
They ruined Andrew Luck and they have done nothing since then. Yeah,
you know, I think I do think that change seconds
a good coach. Ar Andy Richard might be good one
(11:28):
day obviously, just you know, injured this year.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, It's it shows you how much and this is
not breaking news, but the right quarterback means for your franchise.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You know, you could have chaos going on around.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You, and if you've got a baller, it's it's a
huge leg up and you could have That's the other thing.
You could have stability. You could have good ownership if
you don't have a quarterback. Look at the Steelers, right,
like the Steelers have great ownership stability.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And Kenny Pickett is just a guy. So far. We've
got a special Thanksgiving treat for you though.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Here Jeff, we have got the audio of Jim Irsay's
interview with Bryant gumbel here.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh, here you go.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Would you like to hear this? Here we go here? Yeah,
here's what Jim.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Irsay says about his twenty fourteen run in with the Fudds,
if you will check it out.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Was that the low point for you?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
No?
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Not really, because the arrest was wrong. I had just
had kip surgery and been in the car for forty
five minutes and what they asked me to walk the line?
Are you kidding me? I can barely walk it all.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So you're saying you couldn't walk because you'd had the
hip surgery, not because you were on any kind of killers.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I mean, I'm not saying that as a fact.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So why did you plead to the misdemeanor just.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
To get it over with?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Look at I am prejudiced against because I'm a rich,
white billionaire if I'm just the average guy down the
block pulling me and of course that do.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know what it's going to sound like if people
hear you say they're prejudiced against a rich don't.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It sounds like it's the truth.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I don't you know, Andrea, I could give a damn
what people think. Anything sounds it sounds like the truth
is the truth.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And I know the truth. Okay, when you say the
truth is what it is, I know my own truth.
That's that's.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Every time someone says you just ignore the rest of
what they're gonna say, it's an immediate hard pass. You're like,
I know the truth. It's in deep in me and
I know it, and you don't. It's like, well that
that's not a thing. That's the thing. People say that
they have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Very good by Andrea Kramer, though, that was very.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I've had many surgeries, all right, I've never driven high
on painkillers before, so you know the idea that you
know that's the reason why you're on high painkillers. I mean,
I should be you should be driving, buddy. You're a billionaire,
call call a driver. You don't have a driver on
standby for yourself. There's no excuse if anyone are drinking
(14:08):
and drive obviously now or be obviously you know, high
on pay medicine. When when you have options to go
pick you up now and you're a billionaire, you have
a you have a driver. Where are we going?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's I don't know why there's this disconnect. If he
was drinking it'd be immediate, like, bro, why are you driving?
But it's like if you're hopped up on pain killers,
it's the same freaking thing. You're inebriated, you're not lucid,
you know what I mean, Like you're completely right.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's I mean living that scene from from a Wolf
of Wall Street, right, I mean you take those that's
I can imagine. Jim ur said that that's how he
was driving that and that. But of course, like the
best part about that is that that's exactly how he
thinks it happened, right. He thinks he drove home and
was and was in a not in an apparent state,
(15:01):
and then you have the flashback. It's like, no, buddy,
you're you're on lots and of course you're gonna look
like you'll know what you're you know, you're gonna drive
over a place. So I don't know if it was
body cam footage of that arrest or anything like that
would be interesting to see just from a you know,
a perspective of you know, how how intoxicatedor neebraid was
he and keeps saying intoxicated, but neebraded because he wasn't intoxicated.
(15:21):
So God the rich white owner I found. I'm looking
at Twitter right now, the video.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's like, it's insane, it's crazy. It's it's wild, man,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I know my own truth.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah yeah, I know the truth. I don't care how
it sound.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So it's like, bro, you gotta be right, you know
what I mean? And he's not close to being right.
That's the that's one of the shames of this whole thing.
We got a lot to do. Jeff coming up next.
It's an interesting take from a former player that's gotten
quite a bit of traction. We'll get to that momentarily.
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
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thoughts were about. This is Tom Brady. He was on
with Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Smith and what he was hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
By the way, what I like, what a what a pairy?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think that I gotta What do you mean by that? Jeff?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I just like I mean, I mean, was there a
word when you thought like Tom Brady on Steven A.
Smith's podcast? Just you know, I think those words two
years agould have been never said, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Here we are here, we are in the Year of
Our Lord twenty twenty three. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But Brady had a lot of thoughts on what he
said is a mediocre NFL product, Yes you will, Yeah,
so check out this is what he had to say.
It's about a minute long, but listen carefully because he
makes several points.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Here. Here's Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL.
I don't see the excellence that I saw in the past.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Why not and why not?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I think the coaching isn't as good as it was.
I don't think the development of young players is as
good as it was. The rules have allowed a lot
of bad habits to get into the actual performance of
the game. So I just think the product, in my opinion,
is less than what it's been. I think I look
at a lot of players like ray Lewis and Rodney
Harrison and Ronnie Lott and guys that impacted the game
in a certain way, and every hit they would have
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made would have been a penalty. Your coach is complaining
about their own player being tackling and not necessarily, why
don't they talk to their player about how to protect themselves.
We used to work on the fundamental of those things
all the time. Now they're trying to be regulated all
the time. Offensive players need to protect them, Selling, it's
not the defensive player to protect offensive player. A defensive
needs to protect and sell. I didn't throw the ball
(20:02):
to certain areas because I was afreak. Players are gonna
get knocked out. That's the reality. I didn't throw it
to the middle when I played ray Lewis because you
knock him out of the game and I couldn't afford
to lose a good player.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Have you seen that gift of Grandpa Simpson yelling at
the cloud? Is that gift before? No? No, I don't,
but it does. It does sound like that, right.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
The thing that Tom Brady is I think trying to say,
and I think I've said for many years now, and
why and the NFL is not the same. There's two things,
and I think they're both related. One is that we
just have less practice time. There's less it's it's almost
cut of half. Now. I'm not advocating for two days,
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trust him. I've been through that. I don't think we
need to go back to that. But we're to point
now where you know, every fourth day you get a
day off. Every third day is a uh, you know,
an easy practice because the GPS is tell you. You
got to keep guys fresher. You're not in the building
of the off season as much anymore. Right, we used
(21:08):
to be in ten weeks, four days a week. That's
not the way it is anymore. You know, we used
to even just like it didn't it kind of you know,
we used to have team bonding events more often. We
used to because we were we were with each other
all the time, like there was you know, you were
always sort of with each other and you're always you know,
(21:29):
in the locker room together and always you know, going
to team meals and hanging out together. And we used
to we used to to watch film more together, guys
on their iPads. That's the one thing that actually railed
against for a long time now is like I think
that the communication and this is a very specific offensive
line thing, it's not as good anymore between offensive line
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players because they don't sit and watch film together. We
used to have to we have iPads. Like in the NFL,
we had to have to sit brian together as an
offensive line and walk to film in the morning after practice.
Piece we didn't have iPads. We couldn't go home and
watch it home. We had to watch with each other
we'd to watch with the quarterback, right, we could watch
the blitz stuff with the quarterback pose. There was no
iPad to go home to watch. And all of these
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things have made the game a little bit sloppier because look,
you have to practice, we know this, right, You have
to practice to be better. Practice, you don't practice much,
not going to be as good. So and then the injuries, right,
so injuries this season are just like ridiculous and a
lot of quarterback position. And look, I don't know what
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the data says as far as the less practice time
is more injuries, but it does feel like, figure, this's
a feel and I'm sure someone will be like, Ah Schwartz,
I saw the data says something different, but it does
feel like as we have less in practice time, there
have been more NFL injuries on the whole. Yeah, and
again because you when you practice. When you practice, you
(23:01):
practice putting your body in stressful situations that you will
have to be in on Sundays, and your body gets
used to be in the situations and be able to
you know, to to you know to to to play
and get used to your body being toorted in weird
ways and getting you know, and getting pressure in those
weird ways on your body. So other than Tom Brady's
(23:23):
onto something. But I will say though, if quarterback injuries
next season are limited, that we don't complain about this
at all. Right, It's just that it happens that this
year everyone's hurt and then even the good players like
Patrick Mahomes aren't playing as well. It's not Mahomes's fault,
per se, and so the product is not isn't as
(23:44):
good this season. Those are all contriving. I'm with Tom Brady.
There's all contributing factors. It's just when Tom Brady says
it sounds like an old man, you know, being upset
about it. Back in my day, Back in my day,
we practiced it out.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's funny too. It back in my day was last year. Yeah, year,
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I was. I came to the NFL in two thousand
and eight, and then time Brady with two thousand and one.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Two thousand because one was his first. Yeah you're starting.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
So look, we used to practice like freaking crazy, right,
We double days, full pads, you know, it was. It
was in training camp was intense, right, And I'm not
advocating to go back to that intense training camp. But
you got a lot of working man, got a lot
of work in Think about my position, the offensive line position.
You know your your Dolphins unfortunately have had injuries over
(24:31):
the offensive line for so many years now. And the
backups are the backups at all adequate answers, And that
is always no, you never back and part of it
is And look, I was a seventh round pick. I
was on practice for my first year. I don't know
if I would have made the NFL if I didn't
have practice to get better.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Sure, there's no practice anymore. The practice is cut in half.
You're you're hitting is cut in half. You don't hit
anymore in practice. You don't tackle, you don't. And it
is fairly interesting when you look at the winning programs,
both college football and the NFL, and the one thing
they have in common, Brian, is they still hit in practice.
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Dan Lane, not Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart. You know Dan Lanning,
Organ does hit, but Kirby Smart, Nick Saban, you know
their physical defensive guys that hit it practice. You still
hits it practice. Andy Freakin Reid does live tackling periods
in training camps.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Still the players talk about this they do these like
drills and practice.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's well it's called it's long drive drill.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And long drive drill.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah yeah, and they're just gassed, I mean just dead.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
It prepares them for the season.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
It is, it's it's it's a lot. It's it's about
twenty plays in a row, twenty plays straight. Now, obviously
offensively there's no rest. The defensive guys get a little bit.
I think the defense guys a little bit in that period,
but we're we're twenty plays in a row on offense,
no rest, and that's long drive drill and gets you
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ready for the season. So Indie ritsl does these things.
Nick Saban Kirby smart, Yeah, and well I know it's
not for everyone, but I still think that that has
a positive impact on your chance to win football games,
and that teams don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Well, you know, I thought of the movie Desperado with
Antonio Banderaz and.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
His and his guitar full of weapons.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, that's guitar full of weapons right there. But he
says during the movie at one point he's telling this
little kid, He's like I told you man, all day,
every day, he's telling him to play guitar and practice
a lot. And I just thought of that randomly while
you're talking about practicing as a football player. If you're
not practicing the way you once did in the NFL, right,
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you're not going to get better.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It's a simple concept.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But imagine a guitarist who's just like, you know what,
I'm not going to practice that much and hope to
be really good guitar.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Something where Johnny Depp goes blind by the end is
like the Desprado.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
No, no, no, Johnny Depp. No, it's Antonio banderashyak No.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I know, I know, But isn't there isn't there isn't something.
It's a maybe a different movie with Antonio Vendera. Isn't
it interesting? Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Nonetheless, I'm going through the Johnny Depp catalog in my mind.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I'm curious what movie you're talking.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Maybe maybe maybe someone else in the movie goes blind. Nonetheless,
it is uh, I'm with you, like, you have to practice.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, you gotta practice.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Let's pick this back up, Jeff, because there's one other
part of this that I think we have to point out.
With what Tom Brady's talking about with the mediocre NFL
product if you will, first though, Kevin Wired to spin
us around the sporting landscape on Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you, keV.
What's going on giving.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
You guys to can't wait for the feast I'm gonna
get to have this afternoon, so we'll.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Be playing of football on the watch while we're all.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Eating the turkey, the stuffing, cranberry sauce, whatever pie you
might have for dessert. A lot to look forward to
as well as the NFL. Do we have some updates
for the games today? The Packers confirming that Aaron Jones
is out for today's game against the Lions, so he
will not be on the feat be on the field.
Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll. He did say on Wednesday
(28:35):
that he expects quarterback Gino Smith to start tonight against
the forty nine Ers. That comes after Smith miss most
of the fourth quarter last Sunday against the Rams. He
had a shoulder injury that he sustained on a big
hit from Aaron Donald. Much of the sports action happened
last night. The day before Thanksgiving saw a lot of
NBA action. Big matchup in the Eastern Conference between the
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Celtics and Bucks, and it's Boston winning it by three.
One nineteen won sixteen, so the Celtics now twelve and
three on the season. Jalen Brown twenty six points and
eight assists in the win for Boston. The Heat over
the Cavaliers won twenty nine ninety six as Kyle Lowry
had twenty eight points. Nuggets fall to the Magic one
twenty four, one to nineteen to Spy a triple double
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from Nikola Jokic thirty points, thirteen rebounds and at twelve assis.
Timberwolves beat the seventy six ers one twelve ninety nine.
Pelicans over the Kings won seventeen one to twelve. Thunder
get a big game again from Jay Gilgess Alexander with
a forty points, twelve assists in three blocks as they
beat the Bulls won sixteen one oh two.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The Clippers over the Spurs one oh nine, one oh two.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
The most notable thing in that game didn't even happen
on the court, at least not during the game. It
was Greg Popovich grabbing the microphone to a cost his
fans for booing Kawhi Leonard, and of course they reacted
by booing him even harder, but he did go have
twenty six points, says. The Clippers again do win it
by seven one o nine, one oh two Sons over
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the Warriors one twenty three, one point fifteen. Chris Paul
ejected in the second quarter after he picked up a
couple of technicols, so his return to the desert ends hastily,
and the Mavericks over the Lakers one o four one
oh one, LA racing a twenty point devasit even taking
a two point lead over a minute to go, but
then Kyrie Irving hitting a three pointer to making a
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one point lead.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The Lakers in.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
Response turned the ball over Kyrie Irving foul that would
make two free throws to increase it to three, and
there was only a second left for the Lakers to
try to win it and unable to hit that three pointer,
as the Mavericks do win it one O four, one
oh one.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Back to you guys, Thank you, Kevi.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's Brian though and Jeff Schwartz on Fox Sports Radio
in for two Bros and a cup of Joe. We're
live here from the Tireck dot Com studios. I just
looked it up, jee, what's.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Up on f in Mexico. It's a Desperado sequel.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Really, I've never seen that movie.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, that's you Doos. Yeah, so I was. I was
the same sort of the same thing. I was scared
was the wrong movie.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
You're in the same ballpark.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, this thing about Tom Brady talking about it's a
mediocre product in the NFL right now, I was thinking
back to what we were talking about earlier on the show,
which is the rules changing we're thinking about as a
defensive player, if we're talking about outlawing the hip drop tackle, yeah,
(31:27):
if you're you know, like you're trying to catch someone
from behind, you wrap them up around the hip and
you sink your hips and you might land on his leg.
They're talking about outlawing that, or the strike zone, or
not landing on a quarterback, or just all the rule
changes that are present today compared to what Tom Brady mentioned.
(31:48):
He mentioned Ronnie Lott, ray Lewis, Rodney Harrison, and he
said himself, he's like, those guys couldn't play in today's game.
That's the shame to me, is with the f of
the rules, you're talking about some all time greats, Ronnie Lott,
ray Lewis, They couldn't reach their full potential in today's
(32:10):
NFL with the rules being what they are, and when
you're not able to hit someone in today's game like
you were back then, Yeah, there's a trickle down effect.
There's a ripple effect. Well, how do you bring the
guy down to the ground. It's gonna make your fundamentals
look even worse than they actually are.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
The only thing that the only push better have on.
Like a guy ray Lewis think he'd be good any generation,
like he would just figure it out and and and so,
like you know, he figured it out.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I think that's not that it can Ronnie Lott might
figure it out too, but.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Different type of player. Obviously, you're not gonna have the
same type of player.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You can't just declet a guy who's you know this
quote unquote defenseless receiver. Now, there were no defenseless receivers
when Ronnie Lott was out there.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
You know, it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I think we're near the same agember, like the I
mean jacked up segments like did you used to vote?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Oh yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Was a voted segment each week, the players getting bically knocked.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Out, yes, and the whole crew at the same time.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
They'd be like you got checked up. You would never
have that.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
It was like it was like segment two weekly hits.
It knocked out the knocked out offensive players, Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And probably all the hits you might have had concussions involved.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
And it's completely different now.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
And I think that obviously you know that the being
you know, being protective of players is the way to go.
But yeah, it was that used to be. Like what
we celebrated was Ronnie Lott, right, it was these hits,
you know, John Lynch was these hits that just used
to rep dudes.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Right, But think about that. If you can't do that anymore,
what do you do?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Like, so can't hit I can't hit low uh right.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So it makes your fundamentals look even worse. How do
you tackle legally in today's NFL? It's not nearly as
easy as it once was in previous eras no, when
the rules it was like the wild wild West compared
to now.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
But it's sort of the point about like two, if
you're going to change the rules, which again I mean
it's totally within your prograt have to do for the NFL,
then you're not allowing players the time to practice the
new rules rights because there's less practice time. So both
things I think are.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Correlated, absolutely no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I can never, by the way, I use the word
correlated again without thinking about our guy built. There's there's
no way to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That is stephen A has the it's fluid, it's fluid.
Crack is it's correlated. It's all correlated right here with
my same game parlay.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, I wonder what he's doing today when you send
him a text about what actually has got today?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh man, Yeah, he's got to be on a dog.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Maybe he's on Washington.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah, thirteen and a half. I think he's on He
has to be on Washington.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
He's probably on Washington, just.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Walking the casino and Thanksgiving and put that a good cool, cool,
you know, twenty two hundred on it.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, this was just in my shoe, you know, it
was in my pocket. Is the loose change over here?
Give me a you know, a couple of dimes on
Washington plus thirteen and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
That's our guy crack from.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
My dad asked me recently what a peanut bet for
crack is?
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Is what a peanut is yeah, and I was like,
I think it's I think it's twenty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
No, I think it's five hundred. I think it's five
hundred bucks. I think it's a nickel for crack that.
I think that's what he calls a peanut peanut bet.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Okay yeh because I know that, Like he'll do his
standard unit. But he stared unit is like all over it,
he said us bets ups before like it can be.
I think it's between two and five thousand. It's sort
of a standard.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, he's it's probably like thirty three hundred, right with
the juice that tall right right, Yeah, I think that's
more so his standard.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's either twenty two or thirty three.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Yeah, So he's the best. I love Crack. I hope
we get to do some in person stuff this year
with him.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I do too, man, I hope we have a road
yeah some really so.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
But yeah, correlated correlated parlays, guys, if you do one today.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Good luck, It's all correlated, absolutely all right, coming up next,
Hopefully you have many options on your Thanksgiving menu, right,
We've got a lot of options in the prop bet
market as well. We've got to go over this right
around the corner. I'm Brian know, he's Jeff Schwartz. We're
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All right, Jeff, So, three NFL games on the menu today.
(37:19):
We got a lot of prop bet options, many prop
bet options. You know we always hone in on quarterback
rushing yardage? Yes, what do you think about old crazy legs,
Jared Goff? Today it's set at a yard and a half.
Get to two yards rushing.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Though, No, Well, this is a thing. There's a big,
big neo potential here to ruin your day a man, Yeah, right,
like Neil the last three plays the game day round
day ruin. Well, I mean I think Geno Smith, anything
you get with him under feels like, oh way to
(37:57):
go right. I mean, he's no guarantees even healthy to
play this game. It's right and a half. Do I
see right now? I'd be playing fund going under? There?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Go under on a Gino right there.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, you watched the game last week where he was
his whole right arm was just wrapped in this you know,
this bandage type thing. He's looking up at the heavens
and pain like, oh it hurts so bad, the triceps
contusion right there, So listen, I'm with you, man makes
(38:31):
it the whole game.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
There's a you know, I have to do the the
offshort thing. Where I live, there's no number for like
Cowboys sacks.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Probably is probably is like four and a half. I
mna bet the over on that one.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I could absolutely see the over hitting in that one,
unless you're doing just a bunch of quick stuff with Sam.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
House do that though, though I know they're just like
let's go and step and air it.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Out.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
It's like, we don't have time to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Ah, screw it, Like we'll have some time at some point, right,
Like what do you have for fifteen times?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
What do you I don't have I don't see right now.
For Sam Howell attempts.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
So it's at thirty nine and a half high. But
that that's it, goes all the averages. Yeah, yeah, that's bro.
They just throw it and throw it and throw it
and throw it. Brian Robinson's rushing prop is at forty
three and a half. That's his yardage prop. Bet right there.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Who's Brian Robinson the Washington running back? Right?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Forty three and a half. Well, it's not a whole lot, right,
and Brian Robinson is good. It's just they don't give
them the ball a whole heck of a lot. They're like, Sam,
air it out, do what you do, man, take us
to the promised land.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
In the early game, I kind of think that, I
mean Dylan to go over it would be right.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
They got to run the.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Ball forty seven and a half yards.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, and you don't have a j you don't have
Jones back there, Jones.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
I kind of like that. Actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna
hit on that right now.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You might might roll with that.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, So you know, I think I told you before
the season ended up doing taking every running back under
in the NFL. Yeah, I can find for sorry running
backs and like it's gonna do very well, you know,
like Aaron Jones.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Like again like a lot of wear and tear man.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I hate unders, but like this is like Aaron Jones
is going to be out how many weeks now?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You think, I don't know. It's a sprained mcl so yeah,
probably he has two.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Hundred and forty five yards right now, and I have
I have under eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah that's yeah, depending on how long he's out, that
might be a no sweat cash right there, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, I mean even like guys that are like starting
like I have I have Madison under for the for
them looking at my under nine hundred and point five,
he has five hundred and forty two right now, it
feels yeah, I mean, but he's had last week was
the most of had all season though not most, but
(41:12):
he hit. He went ninety three ninety five in October
September October, they went twenty six forty four, thirty nine
thirty one forty four, twenty seven eighty one. Like, you know,
I'm in I think I'm in a good spat with
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
How about David Montgomery, the Lion's running back today.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna I think I'm gonna lose my under
on him.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
He's had a really good season and uh but you
know you get the one two combination with Montgomery and
Jamiir Gibbs, you know. So that's what I hate sometimes
if you take the over on a running back and
it's just not their series, you know what I mean,
depending on where they are in the game. It's like, shoot,
(41:55):
I need like three more yards and my guy is out.
It's the other guy who's in there. Sometimes you just
come up short when it comes to that.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
That's why running back stuff, I think it's so hard
to take over as unless you specifically know that guy
is going to be the the belkout the day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
It's like Christian McCaffrey, he should be the guy to
not unless they have a like a healthy lead. Yeah,
and then he put in Mitchell and you come up
short there.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Man, I like what you're thinking with Gino. I think
that's a good place to start and Sam Howell attempts
aj Dillon over.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah, there's some options right there. Yeah, absolutely some options.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
We got more on the football schedule coming up. We'll
get to uh more about the games today and a
little bit beyond here in Week twelve. Hang with us
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