October 9, 2024 • 36 mins
The Jets can distract from the dysfunction by bringing in Davante Adams and Haason Reddick. The Patriots march Drake Maye out for his debut vs the Texans. Plus, upsets and more on “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Robert Salah was on that sideline like this could be it.
They're doing a replay. They're doing a replay on NFL network,
Like in the back of his mind, like in his heart,
like I know he told he gave an account that
he was blindsided or shocked by it, But do you
think in his heart like cause you know, it's like
(01:45):
when you're going to break up with somebody, Like if
you're the one that's getting broken up with, not so
much the one that's breaking doing the breaking up. Well,
well let's play like this. If you're the one that's
doing breaking up, you start to treat.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
The person you're call to break up with different every
you have a problem with everything.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's it's like a different interaction between the person that
you don't want to deal with any more, and then
that person starts to catch on to the fact that
they're going to break up with me.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Did you leave your shoes out downstairs? You know how
I feel about this?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Like, you know how I feel everything, Try and get
out one you just hung up on me. No, my
phone cut out, poor service. No, no, no, you've done
this before, and this exactly that's disrespect. I mean, you're
just trying to totally separate from the whole situation, and
so he had to fill it. They didn't just sneak
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up on him, and it's like, yeah, you're fired, like
the number two defense in the NFL right now.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's crazy. So I'm not sure it doesn't matter. I
think he was blindsided by all this. I mean I
really do. I don't think you saw this coming. And
it sounds like from the from the accounts of his
day and the meetings, he was more focused on trying
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to fix the offense, which is currently twenty seventh. So
there's there's elements of this that speak more to Woody
Johnson doing this on his own based on whether their
information he gathered, Like did he talk to Aaron Rodgers
about the team and where they're at? Sure they could
have had philosophical conversations or just you know, catching up
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conversation where things are at, just catching up. Well, he
could have he could have spoken to him about other things.
You know, like if there's Scott Shapiro called us, hey,
how's the show going where you guys at how things
are going? Blah blah blah, you know, and if you
speak your mind like you're not thinking like, oh, he's
just gonna go fire the guy twenty four hours later.
So that's that's the truth of probably how this all
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played out, because it doesn't make any sense for it
to be now their buys later in the season, so
obviously it's hard to wait. They've got a big game
versus Buffalo, which I guess he just didn't want to
wait to see the result of that game, because look,
if Whatdy Johnson did this, maybe he was feeling for
a while now Sala wasn't the guy, and this is
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just when he decided to rip the band aid off.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Last year he had the excuse because Rodgers wasn't there.
But now that they've gotten into it. It's interesting because
as I'm trying to point out, like the defensive side
of the ball, that's his category. Maybe that's why Jeff
Ulbrick gets the takeover as head coach. Couldn't put Hacket there.
We saw that looked like as a head coach, it
was a disaster. He's the one they wanted to demote.
He's the one they tried to replace in the offseason
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with Arthur Smith. So you could do that, so you
elevate Jeff Ulbrick and you move on from your head coach,
even though it's not that side of the ball that's
been the issue so far. But he had to have
Whatnie Johnson had to have been feeling and sensing, yeah,
maybe this guy isn't it. He's not the right guy
for this team. And he had to have made that
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decision based off whatever he gather heard over the course
of that twenty four hour period coming back from London.
And I don't know, maybe it was someone's mits over
there in London.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Maybe I might, I might.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Your coach didn't seem like to be a good manager
over there, like well we call him a head coach.
That might we call the managers out here. We played
real football, No, we we play football. You guys play soccer.
You know that mate knows just round ball. So it's
over here. But either way it's rubbish. Your whole team's rubbish,
all right, You move all from that manager, move all
(05:28):
you rubbish, all right? I have a have a few pints.
You know, we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did the Brits say eight or is that more Australia?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
They kind of both do, right, because there's they're just
sent Australians or sentence.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
From are they say bloat? I guess that what they
would say.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's when's the last time you've been to London? J Hey,
jonas have you?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
When have you been in London? I never? Okay, cool,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Good talk, good story, geez man, Like you don't have
to rub it in that you have more freaking flyer
miles than I do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I mean, you know, you know, it's interesting to the
point that Q's making number two rated defense, their second
in their division. They are only one game behind the
team that they're going to.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Wait, that's why, like this week's huge.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, Yeah, so they could actually tie for the division
and basically be own the tiebreaker against the Bills if
they win this game.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, and they fired him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Had to happen, hey, the whole and by the way,
the best part.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
About that might be what's working against him though. They
might be like, we're this bad and we have Robert Salok.
That's that's where a Rod said, we're this bad and
we have Robert sala as our coach.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Get him out of here and let's go hit and
win this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You want to hear how delusional Woody Johnson is.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So buried in all this is the fact that a
Son Raddick is still not shown up.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That is very true.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So Woody Johnson was asked what his message would be
to a Son Reddick, and he said this the Sam,
get in your car, drive down ninety five and cover
it in New York jets and we can.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can meet you and give you an escort right
into the building and you'll fit right in and you're
going to love it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Here, and you're going to feel welcome, and you're going
to accomplish great things with us.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But anybody, he's not one of the police. Score. He
wants more money. That's what it is. It's the contract.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I know he's still in Philly.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Nobody can't find.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
The practice facility there in form Park. He knows where
it's at. He wants a new contract, would he that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
He's asking for.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Why the hell would Hassan Reddick walk into that like
that's like him walking into the Tropicana's being trained, like
you know what he you know now, upon further review,
I remember I left something in there. As all the
rubble is crumbling down on it, Why would anybody want
in on that? And if you're DeVante Adams and I
know they say, well, this doesn't deter him from wanting
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to go to the Jets, Like if you're if you
mean to tell me, Devanta Adams isn't looking a little
bit sighe eyed at this thing, going wait, what is
going on over there?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You could you could deflect and take away from the
focus of losing a head coach so early in the season.
If you brought in Davante Adams, it could be a
very very welcome distraction to to all of the dysfunction.
(08:30):
I mean, I'm just saying he gets what he wants.
Would he would get what he wanted. The fans probably
get what they want to a degree until they lose.
I mean, and they might win. I mean Lazard and
Davante Adams with Aaron Rodgers and Breis Hall in that backfield,
Garrett Wilson and Garrett Wilson. I mean, but I'm just
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saying the old the old gang. Yeah, you know, I'm
just listen. I I'm not sure or why they're twenty
seventh in offense. I don't know why, but it'll be
interesting to see if it dramatically changes now that Robert
Sila is gone.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And what makes it change, Like, let me ask you
guys that what makes the offense go from being twenty
seventh to I don't know, a better offense.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I won't give a ranking. What makes what makes it better? Better?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Play calling?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, the play calling has been atrocious. They are like
very very static. You know, they need to do more
pre snap movement, motion formations, things of that nature to
get things going. I mean, they need to focus on,
in my opinion, at least trying to run the football.
They are dead last, dead last in the league in
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rushing thirty second, so that to me is one of
the biggest things that they got to figure out. Because
you have two talented backs in Preset Hall and Brayln Allen,
So they've got to figure that portion of their offense out.
They can't expect Rogers, at now forty years old, hampered
by a ankle injury, to carry them. They're not able
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to do it. So they've got to figure out a
way of improving.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The run game. You only have to beat Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You only got to beat Buffalo, Like you're telling me,
you could have ride the season out like New England sucks.
They stink. The Dolphins they suck, they stink. You got
some tough games along the way. I mean, you got
to play against. I read off the list of teams
that they got to play against. They'll have the Steelers,
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they'll have the Texans, They'll have some games ahead of
them at the Cardinals, they'll have some challenging games ahead
of them. But as it applies to their own division,
they only got to be Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, it's the other sort of cutthroat part to
this whole thing, and there's a lot of it is
very cutthroat, but the fact that Robert sala is never
going to get an opportunity to be a head coach again. Ever,
the way this played out publicly, the way, you know,
his back and forth to try and please other people,
he probably did a lot of things that he really
didn't want to do and went against his own judgment
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or his own gut feeling just to try and please
everybody around him and ultimately got clipped five games into
the season with a division game coming up on the
horizon after a bad performance in London. And if you believe,
like any of the reporting that's out there and this
is kind of ironic, that this is how it played out,
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that really what started this was that game against Denver
that they were so bad against Denver because they were
coming off that win, Rogers looked impressive. I think it
was Thursday night football and the feeling was, all right,
they're starting to round into form. Starts need to find
his groove. Then they played Denver and they were terrible,
but like, look, the weather conditions were atrocious, the offense
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wasn't good. And if Greg Zerline makes that kick, I mean,
what are we talking about here? The Jets win that game,
and I don't know if this is a discussion and
what the irony of all this is. It was Sean
Payton on the other side, who was the guy who
was critical of Nathaniel Hackett and critical of that whole
coach and.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Said, don't be talking about my coat like that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And if that really was the beginning of the end
for this whole thing, to have it be Sean Payton
in whatever conditions you want to call those.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, it's so Robert Salah probably his last opportunity, which
sucks if you think. And that's why I hate when
people like to, you know, tell well, so and so
should be fired or I'm glad he's fired or this
and that when it comes to coaches like man, there's
a lot of people that are impacted by all of this. Like,
it's not just him, it's his family, it's other coaches
that are probably going to be bye by that were
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his hirings after the season. They've got to now figure
it out. And not everybody's making a ton of money
like Robert sale is, but it's also he probably worked
his entire life to be a head coach, finally gets
his opportunity and it ends like this and.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
He I mean that's the you know, that's the business.
Then everybody's got to deal with the ups and downs
the given scenario of having that small margin opportunity.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's why you get compensated so well too. Yeah, let's
be real about it. That's why you get compensated. What
you get compensated, so just for the upside, it's for
the downside. Of the entire career as well. I do
wonder if he'll look at this experience and he'll look
back and say, I gave maybe one player too much power,
too much control, or I catered too much to that player.
(13:54):
I mean, the hiring of Nathaniel Hackett had everything to
do with Aaron Rodgers. I mean maybe there's a relationship there.
I think he's a good coach, but I find that
hard to believe when they were trying to replace in
this past offseason and they were trying to bring in
Arthur Smith instead elected to go to Pittsburgh, didn't want
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to have to deal with the whole Aaron Rodgers and
basically being on the staff but not running the offense
because it's Rogers offense. So I wonder if he's going
to look back and question how much power he gave
Aaron Rodgers. I want if get another opportunity, or if
this felt like at times such a disaster going through
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the quarterback issues that he faced, that he'll be able
to see the other side of it. I mean, he's
a good defensive coach. That's what got him the head
coaching job in the first place. I do hope this
for him. I hope he learned that like being nice
and so accommodating to the media, in the end, it
doesn't get you anywhere, Like there's still the ones that
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are going to be running your obituary when it's all
said and done. And I do feel like there is
an element of wanting to try to present the best
way possible to the New York media and cater to
them at times, and it got him in trouble. He
wasn't on the same page oftentimes. It didn't seem like
with his quarterback, whether it's Zach Wilson or whether it's
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Aaron Rodgers, or however you want to go about how
they've handled that situation through the year since when he
was there. But it never led to him getting any grace,
him getting any less publistic or anything else about what's
transpired there and how this all went down. So it's
another example of you see why Bill Belichick the handles
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the media the way he did when he was a coach.
It's understandable because he knew better than anyone else it
wasn't going to save you from getting fired in your job.
I think a lot of coaches think, oh, I may
prolong it or people aren't going to ride nasty of
pieces and.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Maybe the owner won't read it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It doesn't matter. In the end. You got to win.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
You gotta win.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's the only thing that matters. That's the only thing
that matters.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And I don't think you.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ever created the team the culture of the locker room
dynamic necessary to be able to have any sort of
sense of sustained success through the dysfunction of the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what I learned since my son's went born,
It's a lot easier to be an uncle than to
be a dad, because when you're a dad, you got
to be an a hole. Sometimes you gotta let him know.
When you're an uncle, you can be the cool guy.
And it was almost like Robert Sala wanted to be
the uncle and needed to step in and put his
foot down. He just couldn't do it, and ultimately he got.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
A well he put his foot down, and.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know by the way I do like how they
were like he was escorted out of the building. Okay,
so what was he like like trying to beat up
Woodie Johnson?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like, I mean, I don't know how the security guys
were LeVar for the teams you were with. But it's
not like these are some like jacked up security dread,
you know, saying like oh we all be sure, we
need you to leave right now. It's like, yeah, we
have someone that comes down and escorts you out. That's
how it works. I mean in most cases with players,
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it's not really someone from security, but you better believe like,
yeah it's an intern of someone, but someone from securities
making sure you leave, like there's a process to it,
like you have to get off the premises, you don't
work there anymore. I just the how that's reported and
how it's blown out of proportion is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
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Speaker 5 (17:39):
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, we are going to have our midweek Awards,
the good, the bad, the ugly coming up here in
a little over fIF teen minutes from now. But we
get some good news. If you are Drake may Well,
I don't know. I don't know if it's good news.
He's going to be the starting quarterback for the New
England Patriots. He will get the nod now they've been brutal.
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That was kind of the projection going into the season,
and so Drake may will get the opportunity to be
the starter for the Patriots moving forward. That was announced yesterday,
And as Eddie mentioned, Derek Carr's got this oblique injury.
He's going to be out indefinitely, which means potentially Jake
Hayner gets the opportunity to be the starter. The Fresno
State Bulldog or the damn Rattlesnake out of South Carolina,
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Spencer Ratt. Oh, what is that rattlesnake? Oh, that's a rattlesnake.
That doesn't sound like a rattlesnake. That at one sounds
like a rattlesnake. That sounds like a rattle. That doesn't
sound like a rattle.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's what a rattlesnake sounds like.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Bro kind of sounded like a rattle. Sounds more like
a rattle.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
There you go, that one right there, Jonas, do yours?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I like yours?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It doesn't sound you know, I get back to me
and get back to me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
On Game Day, you remember Medusa and in a clashing
of the title, the original one though, the snakes on head. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it kind of sounds it kind of sounds like both
of them.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And by the way, you want to you want to
feel old, go back and watch that movie. The graphics
and all the graphics.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I kind of like that though. Man, I kind of
appreciate those old ass movies like that. The first Godzilla movies,
you could tell they were hand puppets. They were people
running in lego cities. I was like, man, it's like
Lockingness Monster. It's like some guy with the long arms
and a sock on his hand. It's not actually.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And we bought it though, Yeah, read every book on
it all right, So Drake may uh, yes, they're not
a very good team, but don't you have to just
see what you have at this point, Brady like, isn't
this like like, let's let's see what we got in
Drake May, Like, let's throw.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Them out there, you know? Is that what we got
to do?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean the season's over, just.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Throw them out there like it's uh like it's shoving
the waters.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, right before you know, let's let's see what we
got here, you know, pleasant little diversionary tactic. Potentially with
the whole Jiburo Peppers story, that's.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
This feels a little bit like an episode of Jaws,
but with quarterbacks a little bit. No, although I know
it's one of your favorite What scene would best epitomize
what throwing Drake May is behind this offense?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Be?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, I mean in a couple of weeks, it would
be the lady's leg floating up to the man in
the water early on, like that would probably be it.
And then as far as Spencer Rattler, it feels like
it's a better situation. I'm curious to see what.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's a different situation. Yeah, I mean, granted they've they've
had a losing streak, but it's due to injury. It's
not like when when car can come back. He's coming
back he's playing. This is different. This is this is like, hey,
we're not winning. We need a spark. We got to
throw in Drake May. Like at least the Saints won
a couple of games to start the year, it's not
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the case for New England. They lack competitiveess. Their defense
keeps them in games, but offensively they don't have much
else going on. So look, it's great he gets some
burn time. They see what they got in him. It's
gonna be a tough task. I mean, they've they've got
to try to do a lot to this roster to
help improve, you know, the quarterback's ability to be effective,
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because they just they don't.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Have that right now.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And it's not like Drake May is a dynamic type
rusher where he can make up for the lack of
talent around him and be able to do with his legs.
That's not his game. He's not Jayden Daniels. So that
makes it even that much more difficult. You know, he's
going to see the kitchen sink of looks. Team's gonna
play a lot more man and varieties of man against
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some amongst the zone cover because they're not scared about
him taking off. He's capable, but it's it's again not
dynamic like Jayden Daniels, who's a rookie and who's flourishing,
and in part because again teams are limited in what
they can do against them. That's one of the best
things about being a dual threat quarterback is when you
can take off and run and teams show you man
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to man, Edward's got their backs turned. There's a lot
of yards to be made, and you do it once
in a game. It scares every defensive coordinator out of
running at the rest of the game. So it simplifies
what you see. Drake may he's he's going to see
it all. It's to be a lot more difficult for him.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Uh you know, I just wonder if the supporting cast no,
are are going to be able?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
What well, I was going to ask you this what
all right? Well, you're you're a defender. You find out
a rookie's making his first start in the.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
NFL with a team already in the rest. Yes, I'm
going to get it. I'm gonna go get these stats.
I'm going to get these status at game. Let's say
you're in your Pro Bowl stack game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
That game.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I don't care what his name is either it's a
stack game because the team is in duress, you know
what I mean, Like they're they're they're throwing him in
and out. That could be a recipe for disaster for
us as defenders, cause he could come out and light
us up. But looking at them being a one win team,
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they're struggling.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
They pulled, they pulled the.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Guy that they felt was the better guy, and they're
putting in the younger guy, which means that for us
our my my interpretation is it's an act of desperation,
you know. So to me, we're going out there and
it's like call my number, Call my number, man, Like
I this is a blitz game for me, Like let's
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but that's that's as a linebacker. That's as a you know,
a hitting duties linebacker from pass rusher to playing the run.
But that's even fun to be able to play the run.
It's even fun to be able to play the play
the pass because they they manage. This is what I
do know, Drake May is going to be asked to
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manage the game.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I don't look at when when you're you're bringing in
a rookie to be a game manager in his first
game out. I don't see them doing too many things
that are exotic. I don't see them doing too many
things that are off the beating path of what it
is that they're going to do personality wise as an offense.
And so my preparation would be there's going to be shorter,
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quicker passes. They're going to try to get it as
close to him as they can, or or whatever it
is that he feels most comfortable with, so he might
be good at throwing it out in the flats, you know,
whatever it may be. I'm gonna be anticipating drop offs
to the to the to the running back, but I'm
going to anticipate a lot of run until they get
to a point where they have to be forced the pass.
(25:06):
That's what I would assume. That's what I would assume,
because you don't want him to be the reason why
you lose the game. You don't want to put too
much on him coming into a situation where it's a
one win team with four losses and you're asking him
to what save the team. I don't think so. So
as a defender, you know, you're probably coming into this
(25:28):
game super confident in terms of what what type of
stat line you're going to be able to get, whether
it be a corner or safety, or whether it be
somebody who's up front. That's that's how you that's how
they're probably viewing this going into the game. They have
again Texans, Yeah, yeah, they definitely, Yeah, they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Drake May's got the Texans to open up his NFL
career as a starter, so that'll be Yeah, it's not
going to be an easy easy I gotta feel like
what would be the play call just to try and
get rid of any of the nerves early on, Like Brady,
what would you what would you have told?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Shot?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, just if.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
You want you want to play action shot. You know
that's that's usually not like what Lee's talking about. I
know back there somewhere at least bartender bartender, Yeah, you know,
we're talking about the type of shot that you run
the ball a couple of times, a little play action
with some big personnel. So you know you're gonna get
(26:34):
like a post size safety. You know, go throw up
one of those good old deep posts with like a
crossing route to open up one of the two and
you just allow him to let it loose. Man, just
heave that thing, get all those nerves and all the
anxiousness out, put a lot of air on it. Let
the guy go run underneath it. Maybe get a p
I and look if it gets picked off, you just ye,
(26:55):
it's kind of like a pun you know, just chalk
it up.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
He does have a howlitzer. You caning at the rattles.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It's pretty struck. It's not like Joe Milton though, Joe Milton.
Joe Milton has a holitzer.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
By the way, is Milton dressed this year for the
Patriots as he suited up?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, there's a third quarterback designation, so you know he
probably could even.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Though he's not active.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, well, good luck to them. That'll be a fun one.
I mean, maybe Spencer, that will be a fun one.
Maybe Spencer Rattler and Drake Maker communicate at some point
during the course of their their times this weekend. You know,
they could get together and potentially talk to each other. Uh,
you know, if they don't have each other's cell phone number,
maybe use like some sort of a radio device LeVar.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That could be I'm glad you said that because saying,
you know, rabbid radios.
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(28:49):
Halloween Song?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I watched one and two yesterday. Yeah I can't. We
can't watch those movies in the my wife's not a
big fan, so I got to like figure out a way.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
To So what do you do? You still watch them?
Like someone else's house?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Just wait till she goes to bed and then kinpe
one of those in during the weekend of those. I
haven't yet, but I do plan on it. Put you
in the mood, put you in the season.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So vampires enjoy horror flicks, y'all. Don't get scared there,
Jonas do y'all get scared?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think you're talking to someone else, like, I got it.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Do scary movie scare you?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No type.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, I'm not a big fan of them.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Like, and how do you feel about like interview of
a vampire?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like when they do vampire movies, how do you feel
like are those like realistic or are they embellished? Like
you know, like when we watch football movies it's like that,
or shows it's like that looks that is nothing like
how it is or that's it that's all like when
you watch Yeah, when you watch vampire movies, like, are like,
what's the best vampire movie? The best representation of your kind?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's a good question. A lot of them are just
aren't all that realistic? No, you no, no, not at all,
Like you.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Know, but like the bat on the string out of
the ceiling, like that's like when you go, like the
smoke comes up and then he goes, that's kind of
that's kind of cheese baumb okay, you know, because that's
play that's playtime. Because as you've seen, like real vampires
drive two thousand and six Toyota tacomas with child seats
and like loose pieces coming off coming off the end
(30:25):
with the Sanford and Son song as they're being attacked
by bats that are somehow still in the building that
nobody's gotten rid of.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
So your cousin you're distinct.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
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Speaker 3 (31:29):
Of course, there.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely all right, lead to lap.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Who's got what?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we started with
the good and you know it's a good week because
we have Brady delivery, all right?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, Randy, Yeah, I feel like every ever since I
brought up that like I never would get the good,
that would constantly give me the bad. I do feel
like I'm getting it. I'm like back in the normal rotation. Yeah,
like I'm getting a little more often, you know, Lisa
yearned it. Thanks thanks man, I am my good for
the week. Are the upsets. It's college football at its finest.
(32:13):
I throwout this stat earlier. Four of the top eleven
teams went down this past weekend in the AP Pool.
It's the first time since two thousand and seven we've
seen a weekend like that. There's more to come, I
can assure you of that. Some people a little concerned
about conference realignment. I think it's going to be a
better thing for the regular season. Better matchups, more upsets.
It'll be a ton of fun. Uh. That being said,
(32:35):
I'm not sure who's gonna get upset this weekend, but
I think it's what you see as it's the fun
in college football. Man, it's a goalpost going all the
way down Broad Party into the Cumberland River, I believe
is what it is right there. Like that's the sort
of thing that differentiates college football from everything else out
there in sports. I love it. It was awesome. Congrats
(32:58):
to Vandy, Congrats to Arkansas. Congrats to who else am
I missing? As far as the big upsets this past weekend,
Minnesota'll be usc Minnesota. Congrats to the golfers. Uh yeah,
although US favorite, so it's not Okay, yeah, yeah, but
I digress. That's the glory of college football, the David
(33:19):
and Goliath, the little man finding a way to get
the dub to get the win.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well, guys can have good without the bad.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
LeVar, what was bad this week?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm trying to decide which one do you want to
go with with ugly because I could go baseball, I
could go football.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Which one you want to do?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I mean, you know, like when it comes to the
negative stuff, I've got a holster full.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
We got a holster pick whatever you want. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'll go with Robert salas firing. You know, I was
thinking Dodgers, but I'll go with Robert Salas his firing.
I mean, when you look like Xercees off of three
hundred and.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You changed the script.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, when you don't win the war, when you just
have a heart, man, know, when you know Thermopra, what
was it Thermoprale? It was supposed to be won by
zerse and his army.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Their military forces were supposed to be so so large
that you write three hundred yes and one, King Leonidas
Rogers in his three hundred Uh. They they went a
hit and won won, the won the war against uh
(34:29):
xercees and uh you know zers Salah. So I'm gonna
say that's my bad for the week.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I mean, you're kind of ruined any chance we've got
to getting him on the show, you know, with all
these with all these jokes, Robert.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Salah, why would we have ruined it? I kind of
was like, yeah, but he can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, he's remember I've already talked about it. He can't say.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I can't say it word. Man, that's severance practice. It
looks good, it looks good enough to be like, you know,
I'll suck it up. You know, I'll deal with it.
What's your ugly man from bed the worst?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Jonas? What was ugly? So we talked about all those
upsets in college football. It was a great weekend of
college football. A lot of excitement, a lot of first
case in point Vanderbilt, who gets it done? You saw
the NFL. There were some great games in the NFL.
The Bengals and the Ravens were a classic matchup. You saw,
you know, the Cowboys and Steelers go down to the wire.
(35:20):
It felt like football really delivered and then buried in
the mix of all of it was the Dolphins and
the Patriots. You talk about a bag of crap, a
bucket of vomit that was rolled out there on display
like that game. I would check out just to be
(35:40):
in awe of how bad those teams are. And we've
made the point before. If you wanted to know about
Tua's value to the Dolphins, you're seeing it. And if
you want to know about Bill Belichick's value to the
New England Patriots or Tom Brady's value to the Patriots,
you saw it on full display. And now they're going
with Drake May. While everybody else had like a big
(36:02):
matchup or a fun matchup and a lot of excitement
that was out there, the Dolphins and the Patriots were
the game that back in the day, there was always
one that would be in Standard Deaf while everything else
was in HD. That was your SD game of the week,
the Patriots and Dolphins, brutal matchup. And I feel bad
for the fans who had to pay prices to get
into that game. So there's your ugly for the weekly.
(36:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Robert Salah was on that sideline like this could be it.
They're doing a replay. They're doing a replay on NFL network,
Like in the back of his mind, like in his heart,
like I know he told he gave an account that
he was blindsided or shocked by it, But do you
think in his heart like cause you know, it's like
(01:45):
when you're going to break up with somebody, Like if
you're the one that's getting broken up with, not so
much the one that's breaking doing the breaking up. Well,
well let's play like this. If you're the one that's
doing breaking up, you start to treat.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
The person you're call to break up with different every
you have a problem with everything.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's it's like a different interaction between the person that
you don't want to deal with any more, and then
that person starts to catch on to the fact that
they're going to break up with me.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Did you leave your shoes out downstairs? You know how
I feel about this?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Like, you know how I feel everything, Try and get
out one you just hung up on me. No, my
phone cut out, poor service. No, no, no, you've done
this before, and this exactly that's disrespect. I mean, you're
just trying to totally separate from the whole situation, and
so he had to fill it. They didn't just sneak
(02:40):
up on him, and it's like, yeah, you're fired, like
the number two defense in the NFL right now.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's crazy. So I'm not sure it doesn't matter. I
think he was blindsided by all this. I mean I
really do. I don't think you saw this coming. And
it sounds like from the from the accounts of his
day and the meetings, he was more focused on trying
(03:08):
to fix the offense, which is currently twenty seventh. So
there's there's elements of this that speak more to Woody
Johnson doing this on his own based on whether their
information he gathered, Like did he talk to Aaron Rodgers
about the team and where they're at? Sure they could
have had philosophical conversations or just you know, catching up
(03:28):
conversation where things are at, just catching up. Well, he
could have he could have spoken to him about other things.
You know, like if there's Scott Shapiro called us, hey,
how's the show going where you guys at how things
are going? Blah blah blah, you know, and if you
speak your mind like you're not thinking like, oh, he's
just gonna go fire the guy twenty four hours later.
So that's that's the truth of probably how this all
(03:49):
played out, because it doesn't make any sense for it
to be now their buys later in the season, so
obviously it's hard to wait. They've got a big game
versus Buffalo, which I guess he just didn't want to
wait to see the result of that game, because look,
if Whatdy Johnson did this, maybe he was feeling for
a while now Sala wasn't the guy, and this is
(04:11):
just when he decided to rip the band aid off.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Last year he had the excuse because Rodgers wasn't there.
But now that they've gotten into it. It's interesting because
as I'm trying to point out, like the defensive side
of the ball, that's his category. Maybe that's why Jeff
Ulbrick gets the takeover as head coach. Couldn't put Hacket there.
We saw that looked like as a head coach, it
was a disaster. He's the one they wanted to demote.
He's the one they tried to replace in the offseason
(04:35):
with Arthur Smith. So you could do that, so you
elevate Jeff Ulbrick and you move on from your head coach,
even though it's not that side of the ball that's
been the issue so far. But he had to have
Whatnie Johnson had to have been feeling and sensing, yeah,
maybe this guy isn't it. He's not the right guy
for this team. And he had to have made that
(04:58):
decision based off whatever he gather heard over the course
of that twenty four hour period coming back from London.
And I don't know, maybe it was someone's mits over
there in London.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Maybe I might, I might.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Your coach didn't seem like to be a good manager
over there, like well we call him a head coach.
That might we call the managers out here. We played
real football, No, we we play football. You guys play soccer.
You know that mate knows just round ball. So it's
over here. But either way it's rubbish. Your whole team's rubbish,
all right, You move all from that manager, move all
(05:28):
you rubbish, all right? I have a have a few pints.
You know, we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did the Brits say eight or is that more Australia?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
They kind of both do, right, because there's they're just
sent Australians or sentence.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
From are they say bloat? I guess that what they
would say.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's when's the last time you've been to London? J Hey,
jonas have you?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
When have you been in London? I never? Okay, cool,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Good talk, good story, geez man, Like you don't have
to rub it in that you have more freaking flyer
miles than I do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I mean, you know, you know, it's interesting to the
point that Q's making number two rated defense, their second
in their division. They are only one game behind the
team that they're going to.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Wait, that's why, like this week's huge.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right, Yeah, so they could actually tie for the division
and basically be own the tiebreaker against the Bills if
they win this game.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, and they fired him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Had to happen, hey, the whole and by the way,
the best part.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
About that might be what's working against him though. They
might be like, we're this bad and we have Robert Salok.
That's that's where a Rod said, we're this bad and
we have Robert sala as our coach.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Get him out of here and let's go hit and
win this thing.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You want to hear how delusional Woody Johnson is.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So buried in all this is the fact that a
Son Raddick is still not shown up.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That is very true.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So Woody Johnson was asked what his message would be
to a Son Reddick, and he said this the Sam,
get in your car, drive down ninety five and cover
it in New York jets and we can.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can meet you and give you an escort right
into the building and you'll fit right in and you're
going to love it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Here, and you're going to feel welcome, and you're going
to accomplish great things with us.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But anybody, he's not one of the police. Score. He
wants more money. That's what it is. It's the contract.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I know he's still in Philly.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Nobody can't find.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
The practice facility there in form Park. He knows where
it's at. He wants a new contract, would he that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
He's asking for.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Why the hell would Hassan Reddick walk into that like
that's like him walking into the Tropicana's being trained, like
you know what he you know now, upon further review,
I remember I left something in there. As all the
rubble is crumbling down on it, Why would anybody want
in on that? And if you're DeVante Adams and I
know they say, well, this doesn't deter him from wanting
(08:02):
to go to the Jets, Like if you're if you
mean to tell me, Devanta Adams isn't looking a little
bit sighe eyed at this thing, going wait, what is
going on over there?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You could you could deflect and take away from the
focus of losing a head coach so early in the season.
If you brought in Davante Adams, it could be a
very very welcome distraction to to all of the dysfunction.
(08:30):
I mean, I'm just saying he gets what he wants.
Would he would get what he wanted. The fans probably
get what they want to a degree until they lose.
I mean, and they might win. I mean Lazard and
Davante Adams with Aaron Rodgers and Breis Hall in that backfield,
Garrett Wilson and Garrett Wilson. I mean, but I'm just
(08:53):
saying the old the old gang. Yeah, you know, I'm
just listen. I I'm not sure or why they're twenty
seventh in offense. I don't know why, but it'll be
interesting to see if it dramatically changes now that Robert
Sila is gone.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And what makes it change, Like, let me ask you
guys that what makes the offense go from being twenty
seventh to I don't know, a better offense.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I won't give a ranking. What makes what makes it better? Better?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Play calling?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, the play calling has been atrocious. They are like
very very static. You know, they need to do more
pre snap movement, motion formations, things of that nature to
get things going. I mean, they need to focus on,
in my opinion, at least trying to run the football.
They are dead last, dead last in the league in
(09:51):
rushing thirty second, so that to me is one of
the biggest things that they got to figure out. Because
you have two talented backs in Preset Hall and Brayln Allen,
So they've got to figure that portion of their offense out.
They can't expect Rogers, at now forty years old, hampered
by a ankle injury, to carry them. They're not able
(10:16):
to do it. So they've got to figure out a
way of improving.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The run game. You only have to beat Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You only got to beat Buffalo, Like you're telling me,
you could have ride the season out like New England sucks.
They stink. The Dolphins they suck, they stink. You got
some tough games along the way. I mean, you got
to play against. I read off the list of teams
that they got to play against. They'll have the Steelers,
(10:47):
they'll have the Texans, They'll have some games ahead of
them at the Cardinals, they'll have some challenging games ahead
of them. But as it applies to their own division,
they only got to be Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, it's the other sort of cutthroat part to
this whole thing, and there's a lot of it is
very cutthroat, but the fact that Robert sala is never
going to get an opportunity to be a head coach again. Ever,
the way this played out publicly, the way, you know,
his back and forth to try and please other people,
he probably did a lot of things that he really
didn't want to do and went against his own judgment
(11:25):
or his own gut feeling just to try and please
everybody around him and ultimately got clipped five games into
the season with a division game coming up on the
horizon after a bad performance in London. And if you believe,
like any of the reporting that's out there and this
is kind of ironic, that this is how it played out,
(11:45):
that really what started this was that game against Denver
that they were so bad against Denver because they were
coming off that win, Rogers looked impressive. I think it
was Thursday night football and the feeling was, all right,
they're starting to round into form. Starts need to find
his groove. Then they played Denver and they were terrible,
but like, look, the weather conditions were atrocious, the offense
(12:08):
wasn't good. And if Greg Zerline makes that kick, I mean,
what are we talking about here? The Jets win that game,
and I don't know if this is a discussion and
what the irony of all this is. It was Sean
Payton on the other side, who was the guy who
was critical of Nathaniel Hackett and critical of that whole
coach and.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Said, don't be talking about my coat like that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And if that really was the beginning of the end
for this whole thing, to have it be Sean Payton
in whatever conditions you want to call those.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, it's so Robert Salah probably his last opportunity, which
sucks if you think. And that's why I hate when
people like to, you know, tell well, so and so
should be fired or I'm glad he's fired or this
and that when it comes to coaches like man, there's
a lot of people that are impacted by all of this. Like,
it's not just him, it's his family, it's other coaches
that are probably going to be bye by that were
(13:02):
his hirings after the season. They've got to now figure
it out. And not everybody's making a ton of money
like Robert sale is, but it's also he probably worked
his entire life to be a head coach, finally gets
his opportunity and it ends like this and.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
He I mean that's the you know, that's the business.
Then everybody's got to deal with the ups and downs
the given scenario of having that small margin opportunity.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's why you get compensated so well too. Yeah, let's
be real about it. That's why you get compensated. What
you get compensated, so just for the upside, it's for
the downside. Of the entire career as well. I do
wonder if he'll look at this experience and he'll look
back and say, I gave maybe one player too much power,
too much control, or I catered too much to that player.
(13:54):
I mean, the hiring of Nathaniel Hackett had everything to
do with Aaron Rodgers. I mean maybe there's a relationship there.
I think he's a good coach, but I find that
hard to believe when they were trying to replace in
this past offseason and they were trying to bring in
Arthur Smith instead elected to go to Pittsburgh, didn't want
(14:14):
to have to deal with the whole Aaron Rodgers and
basically being on the staff but not running the offense
because it's Rogers offense. So I wonder if he's going
to look back and question how much power he gave
Aaron Rodgers. I want if get another opportunity, or if
this felt like at times such a disaster going through
(14:37):
the quarterback issues that he faced, that he'll be able
to see the other side of it. I mean, he's
a good defensive coach. That's what got him the head
coaching job in the first place. I do hope this
for him. I hope he learned that like being nice
and so accommodating to the media, in the end, it
doesn't get you anywhere, Like there's still the ones that
(14:59):
are going to be running your obituary when it's all
said and done. And I do feel like there is
an element of wanting to try to present the best
way possible to the New York media and cater to
them at times, and it got him in trouble. He
wasn't on the same page oftentimes. It didn't seem like
with his quarterback, whether it's Zach Wilson or whether it's
(15:19):
Aaron Rodgers, or however you want to go about how
they've handled that situation through the year since when he
was there. But it never led to him getting any grace,
him getting any less publistic or anything else about what's
transpired there and how this all went down. So it's
another example of you see why Bill Belichick the handles
(15:41):
the media the way he did when he was a coach.
It's understandable because he knew better than anyone else it
wasn't going to save you from getting fired in your job.
I think a lot of coaches think, oh, I may
prolong it or people aren't going to ride nasty of
pieces and.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Maybe the owner won't read it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It doesn't matter. In the end. You got to win.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
You gotta win.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's the only thing that matters. That's the only thing
that matters.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And I don't think you.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ever created the team the culture of the locker room
dynamic necessary to be able to have any sort of
sense of sustained success through the dysfunction of the New
York Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what I learned since my son's went born,
It's a lot easier to be an uncle than to
be a dad, because when you're a dad, you got
to be an a hole. Sometimes you gotta let him know.
When you're an uncle, you can be the cool guy.
And it was almost like Robert Sala wanted to be
the uncle and needed to step in and put his
foot down. He just couldn't do it, and ultimately he got.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
A well he put his foot down, and.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You know by the way I do like how they
were like he was escorted out of the building. Okay,
so what was he like like trying to beat up
Woodie Johnson?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like, I mean, I don't know how the security guys
were LeVar for the teams you were with. But it's
not like these are some like jacked up security dread,
you know, saying like oh we all be sure, we
need you to leave right now. It's like, yeah, we
have someone that comes down and escorts you out. That's
how it works. I mean in most cases with players,
(17:06):
it's not really someone from security, but you better believe like,
yeah it's an intern of someone, but someone from securities
making sure you leave, like there's a process to it,
like you have to get off the premises, you don't
work there anymore. I just the how that's reported and
how it's blown out of proportion is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you
coming up next year from the ti rack dot Com Studios.
So a couple of quarterbacks in the NFL got some
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tell you what that news is right here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, we are going to have our midweek Awards,
the good, the bad, the ugly coming up here in
a little over fIF teen minutes from now. But we
get some good news. If you are Drake may Well,
I don't know. I don't know if it's good news.
He's going to be the starting quarterback for the New
England Patriots. He will get the nod now they've been brutal.
(18:15):
That was kind of the projection going into the season,
and so Drake may will get the opportunity to be
the starter for the Patriots moving forward. That was announced yesterday,
And as Eddie mentioned, Derek Carr's got this oblique injury.
He's going to be out indefinitely, which means potentially Jake
Hayner gets the opportunity to be the starter. The Fresno
State Bulldog or the damn Rattlesnake out of South Carolina,
(18:43):
Spencer Ratt. Oh, what is that rattlesnake? Oh, that's a rattlesnake.
That doesn't sound like a rattlesnake. That at one sounds
like a rattlesnake. That sounds like a rattle. That doesn't
sound like a rattle.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's what a rattlesnake sounds like.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Bro kind of sounded like a rattle. Sounds more like
a rattle.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
There you go, that one right there, Jonas, do yours?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I like yours?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It doesn't sound you know, I get back to me
and get back to me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
On Game Day, you remember Medusa and in a clashing
of the title, the original one though, the snakes on head. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it kind of sounds it kind of sounds like both
of them.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And by the way, you want to you want to
feel old, go back and watch that movie. The graphics
and all the graphics.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I kind of like that though. Man, I kind of
appreciate those old ass movies like that. The first Godzilla movies,
you could tell they were hand puppets. They were people
running in lego cities. I was like, man, it's like
Lockingness Monster. It's like some guy with the long arms
and a sock on his hand. It's not actually.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And we bought it though, Yeah, read every book on
it all right, So Drake may uh, yes, they're not
a very good team, but don't you have to just
see what you have at this point, Brady like, isn't
this like like, let's let's see what we got in
Drake May, Like, let's throw.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Them out there, you know? Is that what we got
to do?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean the season's over, just.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Throw them out there like it's uh like it's shoving
the waters.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, right before you know, let's let's see what we
got here, you know, pleasant little diversionary tactic. Potentially with
the whole Jiburo Peppers story, that's.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
This feels a little bit like an episode of Jaws,
but with quarterbacks a little bit. No, although I know
it's one of your favorite What scene would best epitomize
what throwing Drake May is behind this offense?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Be?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, I mean in a couple of weeks, it would
be the lady's leg floating up to the man in
the water early on, like that would probably be it.
And then as far as Spencer Rattler, it feels like
it's a better situation. I'm curious to see what.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's a different situation. Yeah, I mean, granted they've they've
had a losing streak, but it's due to injury. It's
not like when when car can come back. He's coming
back he's playing. This is different. This is this is like, hey,
we're not winning. We need a spark. We got to
throw in Drake May. Like at least the Saints won
a couple of games to start the year, it's not
(21:15):
the case for New England. They lack competitiveess. Their defense
keeps them in games, but offensively they don't have much
else going on. So look, it's great he gets some
burn time. They see what they got in him. It's
gonna be a tough task. I mean, they've they've got
to try to do a lot to this roster to
help improve, you know, the quarterback's ability to be effective,
(21:36):
because they just they don't.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Have that right now.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And it's not like Drake May is a dynamic type
rusher where he can make up for the lack of
talent around him and be able to do with his legs.
That's not his game. He's not Jayden Daniels. So that
makes it even that much more difficult. You know, he's
going to see the kitchen sink of looks. Team's gonna
play a lot more man and varieties of man against
(21:58):
some amongst the zone cover because they're not scared about
him taking off. He's capable, but it's it's again not
dynamic like Jayden Daniels, who's a rookie and who's flourishing,
and in part because again teams are limited in what
they can do against them. That's one of the best
things about being a dual threat quarterback is when you
can take off and run and teams show you man
(22:21):
to man, Edward's got their backs turned. There's a lot
of yards to be made, and you do it once
in a game. It scares every defensive coordinator out of
running at the rest of the game. So it simplifies
what you see. Drake may he's he's going to see
it all. It's to be a lot more difficult for him.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Uh you know, I just wonder if the supporting cast no,
are are going to be able?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
What well, I was going to ask you this what
all right? Well, you're you're a defender. You find out
a rookie's making his first start in the.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
NFL with a team already in the rest. Yes, I'm
going to get it. I'm gonna go get these stats.
I'm going to get these status at game. Let's say
you're in your Pro Bowl stack game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
That game.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I don't care what his name is either it's a
stack game because the team is in duress, you know
what I mean, Like they're they're they're throwing him in
and out. That could be a recipe for disaster for
us as defenders, cause he could come out and light
us up. But looking at them being a one win team,
(23:29):
they're struggling.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
They pulled, they pulled the.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Guy that they felt was the better guy, and they're
putting in the younger guy, which means that for us
our my my interpretation is it's an act of desperation,
you know. So to me, we're going out there and
it's like call my number, Call my number, man, Like
I this is a blitz game for me, Like let's
(23:56):
but that's that's as a linebacker. That's as a you know,
a hitting duties linebacker from pass rusher to playing the run.
But that's even fun to be able to play the run.
It's even fun to be able to play the play
the pass because they they manage. This is what I
do know, Drake May is going to be asked to
(24:16):
manage the game.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I don't look at when when you're you're bringing in
a rookie to be a game manager in his first
game out. I don't see them doing too many things
that are exotic. I don't see them doing too many
things that are off the beating path of what it
is that they're going to do personality wise as an offense.
And so my preparation would be there's going to be shorter,
(24:42):
quicker passes. They're going to try to get it as
close to him as they can, or or whatever it
is that he feels most comfortable with, so he might
be good at throwing it out in the flats, you know,
whatever it may be. I'm gonna be anticipating drop offs
to the to the to the running back, but I'm
going to anticipate a lot of run until they get
to a point where they have to be forced the pass.
(25:06):
That's what I would assume. That's what I would assume,
because you don't want him to be the reason why
you lose the game. You don't want to put too
much on him coming into a situation where it's a
one win team with four losses and you're asking him
to what save the team. I don't think so. So
as a defender, you know, you're probably coming into this
(25:28):
game super confident in terms of what what type of
stat line you're going to be able to get, whether
it be a corner or safety, or whether it be
somebody who's up front. That's that's how you that's how
they're probably viewing this going into the game. They have
again Texans, Yeah, yeah, they definitely, Yeah, they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Drake May's got the Texans to open up his NFL
career as a starter, so that'll be Yeah, it's not
going to be an easy easy I gotta feel like
what would be the play call just to try and
get rid of any of the nerves early on, Like Brady,
what would you what would you have told?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Shot?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, just if.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
You want you want to play action shot. You know
that's that's usually not like what Lee's talking about. I
know back there somewhere at least bartender bartender, Yeah, you know,
we're talking about the type of shot that you run
the ball a couple of times, a little play action
with some big personnel. So you know you're gonna get
(26:34):
like a post size safety. You know, go throw up
one of those good old deep posts with like a
crossing route to open up one of the two and
you just allow him to let it loose. Man, just
heave that thing, get all those nerves and all the
anxiousness out, put a lot of air on it. Let
the guy go run underneath it. Maybe get a p
I and look if it gets picked off, you just ye,
(26:55):
it's kind of like a pun you know, just chalk
it up.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
He does have a howlitzer. You caning at the rattles.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It's pretty struck. It's not like Joe Milton though, Joe Milton.
Joe Milton has a holitzer.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
By the way, is Milton dressed this year for the
Patriots as he suited up?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, there's a third quarterback designation, so you know he
probably could even.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Though he's not active.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, well, good luck to them. That'll be a fun one.
I mean, maybe Spencer, that will be a fun one.
Maybe Spencer Rattler and Drake Maker communicate at some point
during the course of their their times this weekend. You know,
they could get together and potentially talk to each other. Uh,
you know, if they don't have each other's cell phone number,
maybe use like some sort of a radio device LeVar.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That could be I'm glad you said that because saying,
you know, rabbid radios.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
That could be the way they communicate.
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Speaker 2 (28:27):
Hell yeah, it's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. We are going to have
our freek Awards, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly,
and that's yours next here on FSR, be sure to
catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays
at six am Eastern three am Pacific. Oh the best
(28:49):
Halloween Song?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I watched one and two yesterday. Yeah I can't. We
can't watch those movies in the my wife's not a
big fan, so I got to like figure out a way.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
To So what do you do? You still watch them?
Like someone else's house?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Just wait till she goes to bed and then kinpe
one of those in during the weekend of those. I
haven't yet, but I do plan on it. Put you
in the mood, put you in the season.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So vampires enjoy horror flicks, y'all. Don't get scared there,
Jonas do y'all get scared?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think you're talking to someone else, like, I got it.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Do scary movie scare you?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No type.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, I'm not a big fan of them.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Like, and how do you feel about like interview of
a vampire?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like when they do vampire movies, how do you feel
like are those like realistic or are they embellished? Like
you know, like when we watch football movies it's like that,
or shows it's like that looks that is nothing like
how it is or that's it that's all like when
you watch Yeah, when you watch vampire movies, like, are like,
what's the best vampire movie? The best representation of your kind?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's a good question. A lot of them are just
aren't all that realistic? No, you no, no, not at all,
Like you.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Know, but like the bat on the string out of
the ceiling, like that's like when you go, like the
smoke comes up and then he goes, that's kind of
that's kind of cheese baumb okay, you know, because that's
play that's playtime. Because as you've seen, like real vampires
drive two thousand and six Toyota tacomas with child seats
and like loose pieces coming off coming off the end
(30:25):
with the Sanford and Son song as they're being attacked
by bats that are somehow still in the building that
nobody's gotten rid of.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
So your cousin you're distinct.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Basically that's basically how that goes. But all right, who cares,
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do on the radio yesterday. He's gonna have some strong
(30:56):
words for the for the LA Dodgers, So that'll be
uh that there is good. Huh Yeah, it's a same
old story. Looks like it's shaping up that way, so
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Speaker 3 (31:29):
Of course, there.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely all right, lead to lap.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Who's got what?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we started with
the good and you know it's a good week because
we have Brady delivery, all right?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, Randy, Yeah, I feel like every ever since I
brought up that like I never would get the good,
that would constantly give me the bad. I do feel
like I'm getting it. I'm like back in the normal rotation. Yeah,
like I'm getting a little more often, you know, Lisa
yearned it. Thanks thanks man, I am my good for
the week. Are the upsets. It's college football at its finest.
(32:13):
I throwout this stat earlier. Four of the top eleven
teams went down this past weekend in the AP Pool.
It's the first time since two thousand and seven we've
seen a weekend like that. There's more to come, I
can assure you of that. Some people a little concerned
about conference realignment. I think it's going to be a
better thing for the regular season. Better matchups, more upsets.
It'll be a ton of fun. Uh. That being said,
(32:35):
I'm not sure who's gonna get upset this weekend, but
I think it's what you see as it's the fun
in college football. Man, it's a goalpost going all the
way down Broad Party into the Cumberland River, I believe
is what it is right there. Like that's the sort
of thing that differentiates college football from everything else out
there in sports. I love it. It was awesome. Congrats
(32:58):
to Vandy, Congrats to Arkansas. Congrats to who else am
I missing? As far as the big upsets this past weekend,
Minnesota'll be usc Minnesota. Congrats to the golfers. Uh yeah,
although US favorite, so it's not Okay, yeah, yeah, but
I digress. That's the glory of college football, the David
(33:19):
and Goliath, the little man finding a way to get
the dub to get the win.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well, guys can have good without the bad.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
LeVar, what was bad this week?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm trying to decide which one do you want to
go with with ugly because I could go baseball, I
could go football.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Which one you want to do?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I mean, you know, like when it comes to the
negative stuff, I've got a holster full.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
We got a holster pick whatever you want. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'll go with Robert salas firing. You know, I was
thinking Dodgers, but I'll go with Robert Salas his firing.
I mean, when you look like Xercees off of three
hundred and.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You changed the script.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, when you don't win the war, when you just
have a heart, man, know, when you know Thermopra, what
was it Thermoprale? It was supposed to be won by
zerse and his army.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Their military forces were supposed to be so so large
that you write three hundred yes and one, King Leonidas
Rogers in his three hundred Uh. They they went a
hit and won won, the won the war against uh
(34:29):
xercees and uh you know zers Salah. So I'm gonna
say that's my bad for the week.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I mean, you're kind of ruined any chance we've got
to getting him on the show, you know, with all
these with all these jokes, Robert.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Salah, why would we have ruined it? I kind of
was like, yeah, but he can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, he's remember I've already talked about it. He can't say.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I can't say it word. Man, that's severance practice. It
looks good, it looks good enough to be like, you know,
I'll suck it up. You know, I'll deal with it.
What's your ugly man from bed the worst?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Jonas? What was ugly? So we talked about all those
upsets in college football. It was a great weekend of
college football. A lot of excitement, a lot of first
case in point Vanderbilt, who gets it done? You saw
the NFL. There were some great games in the NFL.
The Bengals and the Ravens were a classic matchup. You saw,
you know, the Cowboys and Steelers go down to the wire.
(35:20):
It felt like football really delivered and then buried in
the mix of all of it was the Dolphins and
the Patriots. You talk about a bag of crap, a
bucket of vomit that was rolled out there on display
like that game. I would check out just to be
(35:40):
in awe of how bad those teams are. And we've
made the point before. If you wanted to know about
Tua's value to the Dolphins, you're seeing it. And if
you want to know about Bill Belichick's value to the
New England Patriots or Tom Brady's value to the Patriots,
you saw it on full display. And now they're going
with Drake May. While everybody else had like a big
(36:02):
matchup or a fun matchup and a lot of excitement
that was out there, the Dolphins and the Patriots were
the game that back in the day, there was always
one that would be in Standard Deaf while everything else
was in HD. That was your SD game of the week,
the Patriots and Dolphins, brutal matchup. And I feel bad
for the fans who had to pay prices to get
into that game. So there's your ugly for the weekly.
(36:26):
We think about that lee that's in good bed and
the ugly I like it, Yeah, sol it all around, guys,
all right, So it is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next
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