October 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Tom Brady is now a minority owner of the Raiders, but does this mean Bill Belichick could be heading to Vegas? The latest edition of Quinn’s Wins and the Lions kick the tires on Haason Reddick.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
What's the change or nuts. It's a good song, my guy,
it's a good song. My god.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
M h.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Can I touch my roots? Geez you you? I mean?
Can I touch my roots? It's like reggae church music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's reggae music. He's it's tireds Ragley, Relax. You're smoking
weed with why not? Sounds like that would make sense
in your house?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Some what is there any such thing as Mexican reggae? No?
They do. I mean, it's just they do what they do.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like uh, just I feel like I'm gonna say this
and get some don't don't do it, don't do I
feel like every song sounds the same. No oh oh,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I can pick up like my wife can put on
any Mexican song. I can pick up the tempo and
rhythm and insert lyrics and without ever hearing it before.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Within five I can't do the screen.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Where I swear to you, I've thought like the CD
was skipping and just on replay, I'm like it just
it all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Sounds literally we're playing different songs like it would be
right back.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But it sounded pretty much the same. Damn.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So when we had this, they wrong, No, you ain't
far off. So my wife's brother had a big like
baptismal party recently to where they were. I mean it
was it looked like a wedding and I don't even
know how much they spent on this, like this ranch,
and it was like really really nice.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And we go there.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They've got a mariachi band and there's like legitimately twelve
guys on stage. They're all drinking behind the stage before
and they get up there and they're playing, and I'm
watching those guys going at least five of them aren't
doing a single thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
They literally doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's like, oh, they're there though for the aesthetics, Like.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
I mean, just like, have a bunch of guys play
guitar hero for Christ's sake, Like just throw them on
state they're not doing anything, and you just come to realize, Yeah,
there's like a lot of those like instruments.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In that music. Could probably get away with like not
having those guys there.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You know. It's like the White Stripes figured it out.
They're like, are we just gonna have two members and
we're not gonna have a bassist?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We got a guitarist, we got a drummer, and then
we'll just want to twenty one let's do that, not
twenty one pals.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What are they call? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Twenty one No, No, somebody else did that too, two
person band.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
But it is good because you could throw it on
like any sort of station like playlist on like iHeart
or any place like that, and just let it fly
during you know, during Sinco to Mayo or Mexican Independence Day,
and every song is going to be a banger because
they all sound twenty one pallets.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Isn't that a two man band?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You were right, I just checked it. Yeah a yeah, yeah,
they'd be killing it too. Just them two.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Should also be pointed out. I tried to play Celia
Cruz as my opener on this show and it got
boot off the stage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Ah, I'm thinking any other, any other atmosphere, that song
would be fly.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Three in the morning and let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No fr that's like, I don't know, that's like feel
sexy type stuff, stand up and with a suit on
and you know, do sosa dancing and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That ain't right here. I mean, listen, we tried to
do it all from the s mine.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, unlike my song with Tyres Riley, you know,
it's more a reggae vibe, just a smooth reggae vibe.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, you tried to ruin it. No, I would never
do that. You tried to ruin it. Yeah, well for
all us reggae fans, you know ruined it. Hey it
is uh.
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so Uh, Kirk Menahan threw this out recently that he's
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talked to two sources, a couple of sources out there
that have said that Tom Brady's first move when he
takes over the Raiders is to reach out engage Bill
Belichick's interest in the head coaching. So they were listening
to our so kind of feel like we were kicking
that around a couple of days ago as the potential.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, guys, man, it's a little obvious, right, I mean
it's we're taking full credits that original of a thought.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Guy, somebody else had that full credit. We're first show out. Yeah,
I'm not credit for that. We're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Here's a tough part about that stuff coming out now
is Antonio appears as your head coach, and everything you
do when you first take over, whether you're responsible for something,
all right, So if it's the operations, the roster, what
have you, could be the border you've got to take
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responsibility for. Then what happens from that point moving forward,
and then you're setting precedents.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So in this case, when he comes in.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
There and this report gets out there, it's like, okay, well,
then any head coach that ever comes in to be
the Las Vegas rate. It's as long as time Britty's
part of the ownership is going to be subchecked to
while they have their job still someone else reaching out
to see if Bill Belichick or the next head coaching
candidate is potentially ready. Like, this is the sort of
thing where when you take over, you don't want what
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you're trying to do behind the scenes to become public.
You'd like it to stay behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, how true do you think it is? Or is it,
like you said, it's not like it's a military secret
to have that thought process, is it, Well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You would rather other people speculate rather than saying, this
is what the first thing Tom Brady's doing, right, because
that comes from somewhere right, And all I'm saying is
like you would immediately want to come out, make a
statement and say, hey, we're supporting the team. We're excited
to see what they can do the rest of this year.
You know this is you know however he sees it,
But you just don't want to set a precedent that
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now moving forward, everyone's going to look back to and say, well,
you know, he took it over and then he was
doing this or he took over, and then like it's
anyone ever safe, because now you're constantly going to have
to deal with the speculation that no matter what happens,
there's always gonna be someone shopping out there for the
next best thing, the next best head coach, et cetera.
The other thing is, you know, obviously he's tasked with
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I guess the operations whatever technically his title is.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But he's part of the ownership group, so it can't
fire himself, right, I.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Mean, I guess he technically step away from it, but
he's still going to be a part of that organization,
and so it's probably better off that he's just looked
at this kind of silent partner, minority owner. I mean,
Richard Seymour is a part of the group that took over,
you know, that invested into the Raiders. And what's interesting
is you didn't hear anything really about that until we
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heard that it was approved and it was like, oh, by
the way, Richard Seymour was part of this group.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, I understand, he's Tom Brady, he's a huge name.
It's hard for him to probably keep secrets, but it
would be better off if the strategy wasn't fully out
there for all to see, especially considering you're in the
middle of a season. It's one thing if this is
the off season and you can have these conversations about
people's job security and moving on to Bill Belichick, but
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at a fairness to ap, at a fairness to every
head coach that takes that position moving forward, and probably
even Bill. Like if Bill Belichick, if I'm singing in
his seat, I'm probably thinking to myself, Hey, Tom, why
don't we wait till.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Maybe the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You know, unless you guys make a decision and that
job's open, Let's not talk about that job being open.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's only fair.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think a lot of coaches who've been around enough
probably feel that way and would echo that sentiment.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I just wonder, how, like, when things like this happen,
how far before things like this surface are they being discussed,
Like Tom Brady isn't kicking in the gear because now
he's getting the approval. Tom Brady knew he was going
to get the approval at some point somebody told him, like,
it's going to take a little time, but we'll get
to approval.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Are you saying there's like a thing that like tampering
that exists, and I mean or colluding or whatever it
may be.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like even the same thing with Aaron Rodgers said can't
wait to play with you again, Like that one just
stands out big time, like he was so sure when
he said it. Like when these things start to happen
and execution of whatever the next you know, phases or
whatever it is you're going to do, whatever takes place,
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how long before it gets to the public, is it
already being discussed. I would be curious to be a
like to know like at one point like oh that
that conversation started, you know, eight nine months ago, Oh
it started two years ago, whatever it may have been.
I just don't feel like these types of things that
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get leaked out when they do, and it happens when
it happens is in the moment, like boom, now he's
got the he's got the approval, the group's got the approval.
Now here's what's being leaked out about what he's thinking
he wants to do. Like that's it. It happened before. Then,
it happened before now, it had to have happened before now.
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I would assume, just.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Assume we can speculate.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But again that's that's where I feel like, it's just
it's unfair when when you're taking over it's now part
of the organization.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's fair for us to do because that's our job.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Like we kind of have to speculate, We kind of
have to read into things and read the tea leaves
and give an opinion on it. But as far as
the actual operations of what Tom Brady is now doing,
it it's now it's different. You're you're held accountable to
a certain degree, and everything you do is going to
be measured and monitored and it's going to be done
so in looking at it from the prism of the
Las Vegas Raiders, because that's who you represent, and this
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is an organization that's had a hard time finding traction.
Maybe they're unfortunately their best you know, era or time
where you felt positive about this team was when John
Gruden was head coach, and so you're now trying to
kind of recapture that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
However, that fell apart, and I feel.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Like now it's going to be hard to be able
to build up this trust in the team and being
able to tea be a team that competes unless they're
able to have more stability with their coaching positions, their
front office, everything else that goes along with that.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
By the way, the more you hear guys that were
on that team, like Max Crosby talk about John Gruden,
the more you start to get the vibe that he
got screwed.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Like you know, you guys talked about. Maybe it was
yesterday's show about Jerry Jones. Maybe it's not even about
winning games with Jerry Jones. Maybe it's really about the
attention that he's able to garner and building the brand
of the Dallas Cowboys and how valuable that has been.
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They don't win s and yet it's the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Why.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
If I'm Mark Davis, I've had in my lifetime watching
my dad run this team. If I'm a Rooney, I've
had this moment in my lifetime with my dad running
this team, that they were the focal point of the
National Football League. The Raiders have a tremendous fan base.
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And maybe it's not about winning right now. Maybe it's
purely about moving the needle in terms of the attention
that you're able to generate and the value you're able
to generate by the people who are associated with what
it is that you're doing. And if you bring in
a Bill Bell along with the ownership group having and
boasting Tom Brady being a part of it, that's enough
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to sell hope, that's enough to create intrigue and interest
to it already really really robust fan base. I mean,
I think this is more just as much a marketing play,
marketing move even for the league. The league gets to
brag about and embrace the fact that one of its
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greatest players of all time is now on an ownership
group of one of the most storied franchises in league history.
There's something to be said there, the story can be
told there, and it can be monetized. So to me,
I feel like sometimes it's just as big a move
for what it represents off the field than even what
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it represents on the field.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You mentioned Jerry Jones, by the way, we should point
out we discussed his comments towards the radios Sean and
RJ in Dallas. He doubled down, apparently talking with Diana Rassini, Oh,
transitioning off that, well, well, I mean, are we like,
what else do we have on it? He mentioned Jerry Jones,
So I thought I figured we were going.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
To get to I was just gonna say this about
Belichick too. It's always a solid when you're a coach
who wants to get back into it, when you have
someone too that immediately gets his name out there, right,
and there's no one who's gonna, you know, advocate more
for Bill Belichick, be a reference for Bill Belichick than
Tom Brady. And so I'm not saying this is necessarily
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the motivation behind it, if those conversations are happening, but
it's good when you're on TV, you're out there and
you know you've already got Oh, there's one team that's
gonna be interested, right, I mean, Tom Brady's helping create
a market for Bill Belichick and a desire or at
least perceived desire for for bell Bill Belichick after going
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through an off season where I think we all thought
he was gonna get a job, and it seemed like
there's some hesitation with organizations because they know what that
might bring. That might bring a guy who's gonna come
in and control the whole thing, and there's people in
positions of power that don't want to give up that power.
So there's also an element here of this being positive
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for Bill Belichick. And you know, I'm not again not
saying it's necessarily by design, but like an ancillary effect
of this would be Bill Belichick's names back out there
for a head coaching job a before it's open, but
be and we're what six weeks into the season, seven
weeks in the season, like that's that's That's another piece
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of this that again maybe not by design, but definitely
part of the conversation when it comes to, you know,
Tom Braddy's involvement in an NFL franchise, but how it
may help some of the people that he's been involved
with in the past.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Let's just say that it happens hypothetically. What do you
think Robert Kraft's thinking, Like, wait a second, I thought
you guys didn't like each other, Like why couldn't we
have figured this out towards.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The end of things behind the scenes, Like no, they
they Cat's been burying the hatchet.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, Belichick and Brady seem like they're on great terms now,
like like almost them not being like playing the coach
player role was better for their relationship because it feels
like Robert Kraft's kind of on the outside looking in
and those guys have have you know, kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Maybe only because that's that's self like, like you said,
it's a family owned it's a family ram business. Yeah,
it's a family ram business. So Robert Kraft could have
been in on this. But if you're gonna choose family
over you know, work, family, then that's what he did.
And that's that's what he's doing. So he's living with that.
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I mean, that's that's not Again, if if it were different,
I would assume that Robber Kraft would be like, why
would you go anywhere else to have ownership? Your value
is here the I mean, could you imagine the impact
that this this move would would have on especially right
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now where where the currently the New England Patriots are.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, they're in the same type of situation.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, maybe they have a quarterback, so they're a
little bit ahead of Las Vegas maybe, but I mean,
to have have that scenario. Only thing I would say
is is that you're not bringing Bill Belichick into that
scenario though. That's the only thing that's that's not going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So and we don't know that they're going to I mean,
I think you've you've got to be open minded if
you're Tom Brady too in a sense that like you
just had Josh McDaniels there, you had a funt office
that kind.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Of match that, like you had the New England Trust
kind of there.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Like if Bill Belichick comes back to coach, who's his
OC would be Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I mean I would think so.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Why would you think so? Because then now is Mark
Davis looking at it like I just hired this previously
and it didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Work, and yeah, the vibe of it was bad. That's
a bad move. Vance Joseph was the head coach in
Denver and now he's DC. Truth, But was it as was?
Was it?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Did it play out the same way? Like that kind
of played out pretty public that there was a like
a disconnect between Daniels and Daniel McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Daniels Daniels would ass and.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The player Mike mcdand's your guy in Miami McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, Seah, I just said it before.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I'm not sure it's the right fit anyway for Bill
Belichick and the time frame he's looking to succeed and
win and if Don Shull's record matters, you know you're
taking over the Raiders job. You're probably gonna have to
be coaching their six seven years I think in order
to be able to surpass Don Shull's win lost record.
Maybe maybe it's fall four or five, but different challenge
if that's your motivation. And obviously, if you're talking about
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a team to go win a Super Bowl, there's a
lot of things missing from that roster that I think
you need to be competitive consistently week in and week out.
So I'm not sure that's the right fit. And that's
kind of why I just say, like it's good for
Bill Belichick though that his name's out there and that
there is a potential like thought that, oh no, they
could hire him as well.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But I think the last little thing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'll say about the announcement of Tom Brady and getting
the minority stake is the way they're setting him up
with him being having control over operations or overseeing that
however you want to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's setting him up.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
To be the majority owner or at least the face
of the group that's going to have the majority stake
in it. Because if he's getting intricately involved in the
operations of the actual organization, like we know he knows football,
we know he knows, you know, what he sees in talent,
what he sees in the players, et cetera. We know that,
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but if he's getting involved with the operations and learning
from that standpoint, to me, that's what this is really about.
This is really setting up for him eventually to take
over as majority owner at some point, to put together,
you know, more capital, to end up buying out Mark Davis,
who might turn into like a limited partner or a
minority owner, but to give them eventually a majority share
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of the team.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think that's where this is all heading.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on
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Speaker 3 (20:15):
We need to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It feels like there's some fuzzy math when it comes
to Quinn's wins. It feels like Lee and Brady er
in cahoots to try and pump up the numbers a
little bit to make things look a little better. But
we'll discuss that in another edition of some Quinn's Wins
for you on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
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move before the NFL deadline, the trade deadline that is.
That'll be yours here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now,
I guess it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I'm a winner winning. Here's all illnesses. It really does.
I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's Quinn's wins.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
As we're heading into Thursday night football, not just in
the NFL, also college football two and one last week,
nine to four overall on the year, it's been a
good year so far, so let's keep this thing going.
We're gonna start off with Georgia State heading to Huntington,
West Virginia to take.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
On the Thundering Herd.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
There's a Sunbelt matchup between these two teams. Marshall's looking
to rebound off the lost in Georgia Southern. They actually
gave up twenty one points in the fourth quarter last week. Meanwhile,
Georgia State is looking for the first conference win and
to avoid losing three straight. Georgia State's led by their
quarterback Christian vay Air, who's third of the conference in passing,
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talked about how good Vandy is, right you guys, you
know we saw the beat Alabama for that historic win.
Will they followed up with a win over Kentucky. That
this Georgia State team beat Vanderbilt earlier this year. Believe
that or not, so give them a little bit of
a credit. This is a team that can put up
some points, in particular through the air. In Marshall's past,
defense is in the bottom half of the Sun Belt.
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So I'm going to take the nine points here and
Georgia State on the short week on the.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Road versus Marshall. That's the first bet.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So you can get it at nine right now in
most books, but shop around if you can find a
little bit better. Next up, college football, we've got a
battle in the ACC Boston College. Bill O'Brien's fighting Eagles
there headed down to Blacksburg to take on a Virginia
Tech team.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's a sold out crowd.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Both teams coming off thereby, we know how this works,
right You hear the Metallica playing the Little Ener Sandman.
One of the best atmospheres you can find in college football.
Here's the crazy bar. BC is seeking its first winning
Blacksperson's twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
This is a Bill O'Brien team.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
By the way, I mentioned that Last of Love twenty
four unanswered in a loss to Virginia, a bad loss.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Last time they were out.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Playing Virginia tach quarterback Kyin Drones and running back base
Shawl Tootson a nice tandem in the back that as
far as running goes, Tuton's actually second in the a
SEC and rushing first in touchdowns and drones is very
capable of runner third in the AEC. Four quarterbacks for
that matter, so this will be a battle between athletic
dual threat quarterbacks. Thomas Castiano's for BC is an absolute playmaker.
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The difference in this one is I think he's gonna
be under a lot of duress. This Virginia Tech team
actually leads the ACC in sacks, so I'm gonna lean
towards the side of Virginia Tech here laying seven points. Now,
some books have it up to seven and a half
at this point, if you can tease it down to seven.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
That would be the ideal play.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
But lay the points here with Virginia Tech and finally
Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
The Saints are looking to snap at four games losing streak.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I remember New Orleans is coming off that beatdown they
got from Tampa Bay last week. We Denver, they lost
what looked to be a tight game based on the
box score, but it really wasn't. If you watch the
Chargers game, they really controlled that whole thing. The big
key in this one is quarterback Spencer Ratler is getting
a second start, the rookie, and he'll be without Chris
o'laves in concussion protocol and their dynamic receiver Rashid Shaheed, who's.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Got a knee injury, neither going to play in this one. Look.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
New Orleans is a tough place to play, especially in
primetime on a short week, but this offense is decimating.
They're going up against the Broncos defense that's top four
and scoring in total defense.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I feel like the points are gonna be hard to
come by.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't mind the underplay, but that's not my advice here.
I'd be laying the points with the Denver Broncos going
into New Orleans. Lay the two and a half here.
I think they get to win and cover that spread
as they take care of the rookie in a primetime spot.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So now, what is the record looking like?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
By the way, well done, But what is the record
looking like on Quinn's wins?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Because yeah, so we announced at the start of it
two and one, last week nine and four. Overall, it's
actually in the rundown. I'm not sure if you've you've
gotten the rundown.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, because on the rundown it says ten and.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Four already, Jonas, I feel so bad, but you must
not get the updated rundowns Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Look I'm looking at ten and four in this rundown here.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, this onenown says two and one and nine and four, LeVar.
If you want to check your email, I believe there's
been an updated rundown's been sent out.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So look what's printed, LeVar. This is why I'm not
bringing me in.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
This is why I wonder what's going on behind the
scenes here.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Lee, Do you I mean you send an updated rundown?
Is it? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Just Jonas is living in the past like always and
does never check his email or check his text messages, so.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He's never really up on the speed on things. I
did send an updated rundown.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Oh jeez, Jonas, what's the one that's printed out?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I mean, Lee, would you love if, like Jonas was
more professional and I actually got up with this technological
age so he actually read his emails and text messages
during a show.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's printed in front of me. Can you that for me?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I am seeing on the email now that isn't what
actually what's printed in front of me?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What jon is that the print out in front of me?
What was?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That print out that you have is uh is the
old one yet? But that's what was giving to us Jonas.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think the general point here is you need to
learn to check your emails listen.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
The general point here is that there's already some fishy people.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
This is and this is part of the reason why
if you are actually somebod who listens to Knox Locks
or Jonas's show or Jonas's bets, one of the reasons
why you can never make the bet that he makes
is because he prints off something and then two days
later is still giving you that same betting advice and
the numbers moved, So he doesn't adapt with technology.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
He's an analog mode and it's hard for him to
adapt with the times.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Right hold on, I'm not going to be attacked here
on the air. And by the way, if you doubt
the credibility of Knox locks Saturday two to four Eastern time,
eleven am to one, beg in Pacific times where you
can find all that and sometimes also.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Known I think, I think, I think I'm gonna go
ahead and just go to the bathroom, maybe go number
two with that.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, and sometimes I wouldn't go before that show either
because sometimes I'm known to host up on game as
well too. So like if you if you're looking for
me in this man, leave me out. If you're looking
for full throttle coverage here on Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio,
you know where to find it at the Jonas Knox
on x is where you can get a hold of that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Right. So, apparently some of the numbers are you know,
we've got to look it doesn't at all two and
one last week, nine and four overall, I don't know.
I'm looking at bars.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Why why are you keep I just don't say, can
you tell me what that says right there.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I will not old Rundown. They're in cahoots. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Guy's behind the scenes are in cahoots setting yourself?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Are you setting yourself up? Because you know Knox Locks
has a terrible overall record?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, but I can't be held accountable for that. If
teams don't want to perform.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The best you too is you have all day to
pick whatever you want on a Saturday and Sunday for
Knox Locks, and then that's what you go based off of.
Right pigeonhold into three games tonight, and I'm giving you
betting advice on that. Meanwhile, you've got this array of
games to pick from and you still can't pick one
hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Just because I go one one in one in a
week doesn't mean that I should be held responsible for that.
Why don't you hit up some of your buddies in
the NFL and say, hey, play up to your standard.
I got a guy who's holding it down for two
to four hours on a Saturday. Who need you guys
to come through and pull up.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Your figured like dynamite for Jonas. But he just can't
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Two to four hours depends so you do my show
one time, that you do it one time.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And that's what you're thinking. Depends as long as I
keep get my check. You go right ahead, you go
do that show for four hours. By the way, did
you make sure it's good? Though? Did you hear Metallica
is going to play in Blacksburg?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
They're going to play at the stage. I think it's
I think it's coming up in May.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They're gonna oh not for the gang, no, no, nothing,
they do.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
For the runouts as you if you ever been there,
by the way, for have you guys been there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Never been? Never been?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I showed because so when my daughter has soccer games,
I've got like a rock mix that I play, so
enter Sandman's part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
The hard thing is is like they'll ask about the lyrics.
I'm like, oh gosh, and they're like, what's what's Sandman?
I'm like, oh, okay, Well, I was like, it's kind
of like the Boogeyman kind of like anyway, It's like
it's like you, like, my children are not of age
to actually explain to the lyrics of most songs, so
they have an understanding of it, especially during a certain era.
(29:39):
But in particular rock songs. That being said, it's part
of the mix. And she's like, why do you why
do you think this song is so much fun? I go, well, like,
look at this video, and so I'd show her like
the intro to when the team's run out for Virginia Tech.
So it's like they see the crowd, the lights, the
team running out, and she's like, oh, okay, I get
it now, Daddy, I get it. So now she gets
(30:00):
pumped up about every time she hears it.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
It's I think the best as far as college football
songs and traditions.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
It Just look all respect to House of Pain in Wisconsin.
And you know, if you want to do mister bwa
man Arbor.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Gonta, give you the problem with the House of Pain
and Wisconsin or jump around all that, it's the fact that,
like when we were there last, it wasn't as much fun.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It wasn't a close game. They weren't up. Bama was
beating them.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So you get to that point in the game they
lost their starting quarterback, Tyler Van Dyke, and it was like,
all right, it feels like everyone's waiting for this.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Now they're just gonna leave.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
So That's the problem is once you get into the game,
if you're not being competitive, there's a different feeling that's
associated with that song. At least at the beginning of
the game, like it's zero zero, everyone's excited, like we're
in this thing, we're part of the home field advantage
until we're not, you know, But you don't get the
song after that.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, it's pretty sweet, So that'll be That's always a Jonas.
You need to fly out there and you need to
experience it in real life. That's what let's go. Why
why does that have to be we? Why can't just
you go?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, I would prefer that, but I want you guys
to think that I want to be seen with you,
so I mean, I'll make it happen alone.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I got we tried the fine system. I'm the only
one who donated. I don't even think donated.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You actually did, actually did so, Jonas would have owed
the most money out of everyone anyway. Why is that, Well,
because you're a passive aggressive at least two to three
times a show.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Because LaVar really hasn't gone back and back into history
with some of those diagoms.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We He hasn't done any of that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No what, I'll just keep it real man like when
you bring it up. When you bring it up, I'm
gonna tell you the truth of it from my vantage point.
But you guys chose the wrong one to get me
on fines.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Although I will say this, I do miss the coy
pond story. That is my call. I know, get I'm
mad about it. That's the time, the greatest story. I
lost family members that that that whole. I didn't realize
they're so expensive. What happened with the Brode? They're super expensive?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Bro Like, you have no idea how much money I
lost when my my core stopped to stop. Generator they had,
they had names and everything. My kids named them. So
now what is a generator?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
After the KOI?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
What's what happened to the KOI? I bet it smelled though? Huh?
It was bad. It was bad. I was so I
was so upset. My wife's my wife's I'm done.
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Speaker 3 (34:38):
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Speaker 3 (35:09):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Did you guys see the speculation out there when it
comes to the potential movement, the potential trade of Hassan Reddick.
Apparently the Detroit Lions have kicked the tires with Aiden
Hudgson going down with the injury. By the way, I
think if I have this correct, the guy who he
accidentally leg whipped that. He snapped his leg on like
(35:32):
the next day got a massive contract extension. Tang No
really a Lee McNeil, Yeah, yeah, you got kind of
odd timing. But Hassan Reddick is uh is out there
apparently the new how much would it cost him to
pull off that trade with the Jets? A lot of
the Lions and then and then Hassan Reddick is going
(35:55):
to want a contract done right, So it's not they
don't get the just absorb what it is. Like, Well,
here's what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They could do the trade with the Jets right because
there's like, no, he doesn't have like a no trade
class where he can exercise it, does it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, here's where it gets interesting.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So the Jets would reportedly have to send a twenty
twenty six second round pick to the Eagles if the
Jets traded him back to the NFC.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Ooh, so how he rose?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Ooh, he's a beast, He's a beast.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He knew his son was going to be a problem
for him.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He was already playing, don't don't bring that back over here, please,
y'all could have him, but don't send him back.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
In So how he rose was just sitting back going.
I mean, we got problems here, but at least one
of those problems. But yeah, sod reddick, you know, at
least they are well. He could be helping the Eagles
right now too.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
For what.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I just thought that, you know, his new agency was
going to be able to get this whole thing square.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh you know that's C's boy, man, you gotta yeah,
that's right. I like Drew. He's a good dude.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I could tell when you like somebody, you like your
damn Yeah, I mean I can tell when you don't
like somebody.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
What's the change or nuts. It's a good song, my guy,
it's a good song. My god.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
M h.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Can I touch my roots? Geez you you? I mean?
Can I touch my roots? It's like reggae church music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's reggae music. He's it's tireds Ragley, Relax. You're smoking
weed with why not? Sounds like that would make sense
in your house?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Some what is there any such thing as Mexican reggae? No?
They do. I mean, it's just they do what they do.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like uh, just I feel like I'm gonna say this
and get some don't don't do it, don't do I
feel like every song sounds the same. No oh oh,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I can pick up like my wife can put on
any Mexican song. I can pick up the tempo and
rhythm and insert lyrics and without ever hearing it before.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Within five I can't do the screen.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Where I swear to you, I've thought like the CD
was skipping and just on replay, I'm like it just
it all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Sounds literally we're playing different songs like it would be
right back.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But it sounded pretty much the same. Damn.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So when we had this, they wrong, No, you ain't
far off. So my wife's brother had a big like
baptismal party recently to where they were. I mean it
was it looked like a wedding and I don't even
know how much they spent on this, like this ranch,
and it was like really really nice.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And we go there.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They've got a mariachi band and there's like legitimately twelve
guys on stage. They're all drinking behind the stage before
and they get up there and they're playing, and I'm
watching those guys going at least five of them aren't
doing a single thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
They literally doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's like, oh, they're there though for the aesthetics, Like.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
I mean, just like, have a bunch of guys play
guitar hero for Christ's sake, Like just throw them on
state they're not doing anything, and you just come to realize, Yeah,
there's like a lot of those like instruments.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In that music. Could probably get away with like not
having those guys there.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You know. It's like the White Stripes figured it out.
They're like, are we just gonna have two members and
we're not gonna have a bassist?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We got a guitarist, we got a drummer, and then
we'll just want to twenty one let's do that, not
twenty one pals.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What are they call? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Twenty one No, No, somebody else did that too, two
person band.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
But it is good because you could throw it on
like any sort of station like playlist on like iHeart
or any place like that, and just let it fly
during you know, during Sinco to Mayo or Mexican Independence Day,
and every song is going to be a banger because
they all sound twenty one pallets.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Isn't that a two man band?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You were right, I just checked it. Yeah a yeah, yeah,
they'd be killing it too. Just them two.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Should also be pointed out. I tried to play Celia
Cruz as my opener on this show and it got
boot off the stage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Ah, I'm thinking any other, any other atmosphere, that song
would be fly.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Three in the morning and let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No fr that's like, I don't know, that's like feel
sexy type stuff, stand up and with a suit on
and you know, do sosa dancing and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That ain't right here. I mean, listen, we tried to
do it all from the s mine.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, unlike my song with Tyres Riley, you know,
it's more a reggae vibe, just a smooth reggae vibe.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, you tried to ruin it. No, I would never
do that. You tried to ruin it. Yeah, well for
all us reggae fans, you know ruined it. Hey it
is uh.
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so Uh, Kirk Menahan threw this out recently that he's
(05:24):
talked to two sources, a couple of sources out there
that have said that Tom Brady's first move when he
takes over the Raiders is to reach out engage Bill
Belichick's interest in the head coaching. So they were listening
to our so kind of feel like we were kicking
that around a couple of days ago as the potential.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, guys, man, it's a little obvious, right, I mean
it's we're taking full credits that original of a thought.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Guy, somebody else had that full credit. We're first show out. Yeah,
I'm not credit for that. We're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Here's a tough part about that stuff coming out now
is Antonio appears as your head coach, and everything you
do when you first take over, whether you're responsible for something,
all right, So if it's the operations, the roster, what
have you, could be the border you've got to take
(06:18):
responsibility for. Then what happens from that point moving forward,
and then you're setting precedents.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So in this case, when he comes in.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
There and this report gets out there, it's like, okay, well,
then any head coach that ever comes in to be
the Las Vegas rate. It's as long as time Britty's
part of the ownership is going to be subchecked to
while they have their job still someone else reaching out
to see if Bill Belichick or the next head coaching
candidate is potentially ready. Like, this is the sort of
thing where when you take over, you don't want what
(06:48):
you're trying to do behind the scenes to become public.
You'd like it to stay behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, how true do you think it is? Or is it,
like you said, it's not like it's a military secret
to have that thought process, is it, Well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You would rather other people speculate rather than saying, this
is what the first thing Tom Brady's doing, right, because
that comes from somewhere right, And all I'm saying is
like you would immediately want to come out, make a
statement and say, hey, we're supporting the team. We're excited
to see what they can do the rest of this year.
You know this is you know however he sees it,
But you just don't want to set a precedent that
(07:25):
now moving forward, everyone's going to look back to and say, well,
you know, he took it over and then he was
doing this or he took over, and then like it's
anyone ever safe, because now you're constantly going to have
to deal with the speculation that no matter what happens,
there's always gonna be someone shopping out there for the
next best thing, the next best head coach, et cetera.
The other thing is, you know, obviously he's tasked with
(07:45):
I guess the operations whatever technically his title is.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But he's part of the ownership group, so it can't
fire himself, right, I.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Mean, I guess he technically step away from it, but
he's still going to be a part of that organization,
and so it's probably better off that he's just looked
at this kind of silent partner, minority owner. I mean,
Richard Seymour is a part of the group that took over,
you know, that invested into the Raiders. And what's interesting
is you didn't hear anything really about that until we
(08:15):
heard that it was approved and it was like, oh, by
the way, Richard Seymour was part of this group.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, I understand, he's Tom Brady, he's a huge name.
It's hard for him to probably keep secrets, but it
would be better off if the strategy wasn't fully out
there for all to see, especially considering you're in the
middle of a season. It's one thing if this is
the off season and you can have these conversations about
people's job security and moving on to Bill Belichick, but
(08:41):
at a fairness to ap, at a fairness to every
head coach that takes that position moving forward, and probably
even Bill. Like if Bill Belichick, if I'm singing in
his seat, I'm probably thinking to myself, Hey, Tom, why
don't we wait till.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Maybe the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You know, unless you guys make a decision and that
job's open, Let's not talk about that job being open.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's only fair.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think a lot of coaches who've been around enough
probably feel that way and would echo that sentiment.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I just wonder, how, like, when things like this happen,
how far before things like this surface are they being discussed,
Like Tom Brady isn't kicking in the gear because now
he's getting the approval. Tom Brady knew he was going
to get the approval at some point somebody told him, like,
it's going to take a little time, but we'll get
to approval.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Are you saying there's like a thing that like tampering
that exists, and I mean or colluding or whatever it
may be.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like even the same thing with Aaron Rodgers said can't
wait to play with you again, Like that one just
stands out big time, like he was so sure when
he said it. Like when these things start to happen
and execution of whatever the next you know, phases or
whatever it is you're going to do, whatever takes place,
(09:54):
how long before it gets to the public, is it
already being discussed. I would be curious to be a
like to know like at one point like oh that
that conversation started, you know, eight nine months ago, Oh
it started two years ago, whatever it may have been.
I just don't feel like these types of things that
(10:15):
get leaked out when they do, and it happens when
it happens is in the moment, like boom, now he's
got the he's got the approval, the group's got the approval.
Now here's what's being leaked out about what he's thinking
he wants to do. Like that's it. It happened before. Then,
it happened before now, it had to have happened before now.
(10:39):
I would assume, just.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Assume we can speculate.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But again that's that's where I feel like, it's just
it's unfair when when you're taking over it's now part
of the organization.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's fair for us to do because that's our job.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Like we kind of have to speculate, We kind of
have to read into things and read the tea leaves
and give an opinion on it. But as far as
the actual operations of what Tom Brady is now doing,
it it's now it's different. You're you're held accountable to
a certain degree, and everything you do is going to
be measured and monitored and it's going to be done
so in looking at it from the prism of the
Las Vegas Raiders, because that's who you represent, and this
(11:13):
is an organization that's had a hard time finding traction.
Maybe they're unfortunately their best you know, era or time
where you felt positive about this team was when John
Gruden was head coach, and so you're now trying to
kind of recapture that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
However, that fell apart, and I feel.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Like now it's going to be hard to be able
to build up this trust in the team and being
able to tea be a team that competes unless they're
able to have more stability with their coaching positions, their
front office, everything else that goes along with that.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
By the way, the more you hear guys that were
on that team, like Max Crosby talk about John Gruden,
the more you start to get the vibe that he
got screwed.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Like you know, you guys talked about. Maybe it was
yesterday's show about Jerry Jones. Maybe it's not even about
winning games with Jerry Jones. Maybe it's really about the
attention that he's able to garner and building the brand
of the Dallas Cowboys and how valuable that has been.
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They don't win s and yet it's the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Why.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
If I'm Mark Davis, I've had in my lifetime watching
my dad run this team. If I'm a Rooney, I've
had this moment in my lifetime with my dad running
this team, that they were the focal point of the
National Football League. The Raiders have a tremendous fan base.
(12:44):
And maybe it's not about winning right now. Maybe it's
purely about moving the needle in terms of the attention
that you're able to generate and the value you're able
to generate by the people who are associated with what
it is that you're doing. And if you bring in
a Bill Bell along with the ownership group having and
boasting Tom Brady being a part of it, that's enough
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to sell hope, that's enough to create intrigue and interest
to it already really really robust fan base. I mean,
I think this is more just as much a marketing play,
marketing move even for the league. The league gets to
brag about and embrace the fact that one of its
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greatest players of all time is now on an ownership
group of one of the most storied franchises in league history.
There's something to be said there, the story can be
told there, and it can be monetized. So to me,
I feel like sometimes it's just as big a move
for what it represents off the field than even what
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it represents on the field.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You mentioned Jerry Jones, by the way, we should point
out we discussed his comments towards the radios Sean and
RJ in Dallas. He doubled down, apparently talking with Diana Rassini, Oh,
transitioning off that, well, well, I mean, are we like,
what else do we have on it? He mentioned Jerry Jones,
So I thought I figured we were going.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
To get to I was just gonna say this about
Belichick too. It's always a solid when you're a coach
who wants to get back into it, when you have
someone too that immediately gets his name out there, right,
and there's no one who's gonna, you know, advocate more
for Bill Belichick, be a reference for Bill Belichick than
Tom Brady. And so I'm not saying this is necessarily
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the motivation behind it, if those conversations are happening, but
it's good when you're on TV, you're out there and
you know you've already got Oh, there's one team that's
gonna be interested, right, I mean, Tom Brady's helping create
a market for Bill Belichick and a desire or at
least perceived desire for for bell Bill Belichick after going
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through an off season where I think we all thought
he was gonna get a job, and it seemed like
there's some hesitation with organizations because they know what that
might bring. That might bring a guy who's gonna come
in and control the whole thing, and there's people in
positions of power that don't want to give up that power.
So there's also an element here of this being positive
(15:15):
for Bill Belichick. And you know, I'm not again not
saying it's necessarily by design, but like an ancillary effect
of this would be Bill Belichick's names back out there
for a head coaching job a before it's open, but
be and we're what six weeks into the season, seven
weeks in the season, like that's that's That's another piece
(15:36):
of this that again maybe not by design, but definitely
part of the conversation when it comes to, you know,
Tom Braddy's involvement in an NFL franchise, but how it
may help some of the people that he's been involved
with in the past.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Let's just say that it happens hypothetically. What do you
think Robert Kraft's thinking, Like, wait a second, I thought
you guys didn't like each other, Like why couldn't we
have figured this out towards.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The end of things behind the scenes, Like no, they
they Cat's been burying the hatchet.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, Belichick and Brady seem like they're on great terms now,
like like almost them not being like playing the coach
player role was better for their relationship because it feels
like Robert Kraft's kind of on the outside looking in
and those guys have have you know, kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Maybe only because that's that's self like, like you said,
it's a family owned it's a family ram business. Yeah,
it's a family ram business. So Robert Kraft could have
been in on this. But if you're gonna choose family
over you know, work, family, then that's what he did.
And that's that's what he's doing. So he's living with that.
(16:41):
I mean, that's that's not Again, if if it were different,
I would assume that Robber Kraft would be like, why
would you go anywhere else to have ownership? Your value
is here the I mean, could you imagine the impact
that this this move would would have on especially right
(17:01):
now where where the currently the New England Patriots are.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, they're in the same type of situation.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, maybe they have a quarterback, so they're a
little bit ahead of Las Vegas maybe, but I mean,
to have have that scenario. Only thing I would say
is is that you're not bringing Bill Belichick into that
scenario though. That's the only thing that's that's not going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So and we don't know that they're going to I mean,
I think you've you've got to be open minded if
you're Tom Brady too in a sense that like you
just had Josh McDaniels there, you had a funt office
that kind.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Of match that, like you had the New England Trust
kind of there.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Like if Bill Belichick comes back to coach, who's his
OC would be Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I mean I would think so.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Why would you think so? Because then now is Mark
Davis looking at it like I just hired this previously
and it didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Work, and yeah, the vibe of it was bad. That's
a bad move. Vance Joseph was the head coach in
Denver and now he's DC. Truth, But was it as was?
Was it?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Did it play out the same way? Like that kind
of played out pretty public that there was a like
a disconnect between Daniels and Daniel McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Daniels Daniels would ass and.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The player Mike mcdand's your guy in Miami McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, Seah, I just said it before.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I'm not sure it's the right fit anyway for Bill
Belichick and the time frame he's looking to succeed and
win and if Don Shull's record matters, you know you're
taking over the Raiders job. You're probably gonna have to
be coaching their six seven years I think in order
to be able to surpass Don Shull's win lost record.
Maybe maybe it's fall four or five, but different challenge
if that's your motivation. And obviously, if you're talking about
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a team to go win a Super Bowl, there's a
lot of things missing from that roster that I think
you need to be competitive consistently week in and week out.
So I'm not sure that's the right fit. And that's
kind of why I just say, like it's good for
Bill Belichick though that his name's out there and that
there is a potential like thought that, oh no, they
could hire him as well.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But I think the last little thing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'll say about the announcement of Tom Brady and getting
the minority stake is the way they're setting him up
with him being having control over operations or overseeing that
however you want to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's setting him up.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
To be the majority owner or at least the face
of the group that's going to have the majority stake
in it. Because if he's getting intricately involved in the
operations of the actual organization, like we know he knows football,
we know he knows, you know, what he sees in talent,
what he sees in the players, et cetera. We know that,
(19:45):
but if he's getting involved with the operations and learning
from that standpoint, to me, that's what this is really about.
This is really setting up for him eventually to take
over as majority owner at some point, to put together,
you know, more capital, to end up buying out Mark Davis,
who might turn into like a limited partner or a
minority owner, but to give them eventually a majority share
(20:07):
of the team.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think that's where this is all heading.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you coming up next here.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We need to get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It feels like there's some fuzzy math when it comes
to Quinn's wins. It feels like Lee and Brady er
in cahoots to try and pump up the numbers a
little bit to make things look a little better. But
we'll discuss that in another edition of some Quinn's Wins
for you on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. In about fifteen minutes from now, we're going
to discuss one team kicking the tires on a potential
move before the NFL deadline, the trade deadline that is.
That'll be yours here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now,
I guess it's time for this.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I'm a winner winning. Here's all illnesses. It really does.
I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's Quinn's wins.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
As we're heading into Thursday night football, not just in
the NFL, also college football two and one last week,
nine to four overall on the year, it's been a
good year so far, so let's keep this thing going.
We're gonna start off with Georgia State heading to Huntington,
West Virginia to take.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
On the Thundering Herd.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
There's a Sunbelt matchup between these two teams. Marshall's looking
to rebound off the lost in Georgia Southern. They actually
gave up twenty one points in the fourth quarter last week. Meanwhile,
Georgia State is looking for the first conference win and
to avoid losing three straight. Georgia State's led by their
quarterback Christian vay Air, who's third of the conference in passing,
(21:57):
talked about how good Vandy is, right you guys, you
know we saw the beat Alabama for that historic win.
Will they followed up with a win over Kentucky. That
this Georgia State team beat Vanderbilt earlier this year. Believe
that or not, so give them a little bit of
a credit. This is a team that can put up
some points, in particular through the air. In Marshall's past,
defense is in the bottom half of the Sun Belt.
(22:18):
So I'm going to take the nine points here and
Georgia State on the short week on the.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Road versus Marshall. That's the first bet.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So you can get it at nine right now in
most books, but shop around if you can find a
little bit better. Next up, college football, we've got a
battle in the ACC Boston College. Bill O'Brien's fighting Eagles
there headed down to Blacksburg to take on a Virginia
Tech team.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's a sold out crowd.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Both teams coming off thereby, we know how this works,
right You hear the Metallica playing the Little Ener Sandman.
One of the best atmospheres you can find in college football.
Here's the crazy bar. BC is seeking its first winning
Blacksperson's twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
This is a Bill O'Brien team.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
By the way, I mentioned that Last of Love twenty
four unanswered in a loss to Virginia, a bad loss.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Last time they were out.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Playing Virginia tach quarterback Kyin Drones and running back base
Shawl Tootson a nice tandem in the back that as
far as running goes, Tuton's actually second in the a
SEC and rushing first in touchdowns and drones is very
capable of runner third in the AEC. Four quarterbacks for
that matter, so this will be a battle between athletic
dual threat quarterbacks. Thomas Castiano's for BC is an absolute playmaker.
(23:35):
The difference in this one is I think he's gonna
be under a lot of duress. This Virginia Tech team
actually leads the ACC in sacks, so I'm gonna lean
towards the side of Virginia Tech here laying seven points. Now,
some books have it up to seven and a half
at this point, if you can tease it down to seven.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
That would be the ideal play.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
But lay the points here with Virginia Tech and finally
Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
The Saints are looking to snap at four games losing streak.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I remember New Orleans is coming off that beatdown they
got from Tampa Bay last week. We Denver, they lost
what looked to be a tight game based on the
box score, but it really wasn't. If you watch the
Chargers game, they really controlled that whole thing. The big
key in this one is quarterback Spencer Ratler is getting
a second start, the rookie, and he'll be without Chris
o'laves in concussion protocol and their dynamic receiver Rashid Shaheed, who's.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Got a knee injury, neither going to play in this one. Look.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
New Orleans is a tough place to play, especially in
primetime on a short week, but this offense is decimating.
They're going up against the Broncos defense that's top four
and scoring in total defense.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I feel like the points are gonna be hard to
come by.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't mind the underplay, but that's not my advice here.
I'd be laying the points with the Denver Broncos going
into New Orleans. Lay the two and a half here.
I think they get to win and cover that spread
as they take care of the rookie in a primetime spot.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So now, what is the record looking like?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
By the way, well done, But what is the record
looking like on Quinn's wins?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Because yeah, so we announced at the start of it
two and one, last week nine and four. Overall, it's
actually in the rundown. I'm not sure if you've you've
gotten the rundown.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, because on the rundown it says ten and.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Four already, Jonas, I feel so bad, but you must
not get the updated rundowns Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Look I'm looking at ten and four in this rundown here.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, this onenown says two and one and nine and four, LeVar.
If you want to check your email, I believe there's
been an updated rundown's been sent out.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So look what's printed, LeVar. This is why I'm not
bringing me in.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
This is why I wonder what's going on behind the
scenes here.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Lee, Do you I mean you send an updated rundown?
Is it? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Just Jonas is living in the past like always and
does never check his email or check his text messages, so.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He's never really up on the speed on things. I
did send an updated rundown.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Oh jeez, Jonas, what's the one that's printed out?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I mean, Lee, would you love if, like Jonas was
more professional and I actually got up with this technological
age so he actually read his emails and text messages
during a show.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's printed in front of me. Can you that for me?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I am seeing on the email now that isn't what
actually what's printed in front of me?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What jon is that the print out in front of me?
What was?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That print out that you have is uh is the
old one yet? But that's what was giving to us Jonas.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think the general point here is you need to
learn to check your emails listen.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
The general point here is that there's already some fishy people.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
This is and this is part of the reason why
if you are actually somebod who listens to Knox Locks
or Jonas's show or Jonas's bets, one of the reasons
why you can never make the bet that he makes
is because he prints off something and then two days
later is still giving you that same betting advice and
the numbers moved, So he doesn't adapt with technology.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
He's an analog mode and it's hard for him to
adapt with the times.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Right hold on, I'm not going to be attacked here
on the air. And by the way, if you doubt
the credibility of Knox locks Saturday two to four Eastern time,
eleven am to one, beg in Pacific times where you
can find all that and sometimes also.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Known I think, I think, I think I'm gonna go
ahead and just go to the bathroom, maybe go number
two with that.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Well, and sometimes I wouldn't go before that show either
because sometimes I'm known to host up on game as
well too. So like if you if you're looking for
me in this man, leave me out. If you're looking
for full throttle coverage here on Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio,
you know where to find it at the Jonas Knox
on x is where you can get a hold of that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Right. So, apparently some of the numbers are you know,
we've got to look it doesn't at all two and
one last week, nine and four overall, I don't know.
I'm looking at bars.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Why why are you keep I just don't say, can
you tell me what that says right there.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I will not old Rundown. They're in cahoots. I'm not.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Guy's behind the scenes are in cahoots setting yourself?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Are you setting yourself up? Because you know Knox Locks
has a terrible overall record?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, but I can't be held accountable for that. If
teams don't want to perform.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The best you too is you have all day to
pick whatever you want on a Saturday and Sunday for
Knox Locks, and then that's what you go based off of.
Right pigeonhold into three games tonight, and I'm giving you
betting advice on that. Meanwhile, you've got this array of
games to pick from and you still can't pick one
hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Just because I go one one in one in a
week doesn't mean that I should be held responsible for that.
Why don't you hit up some of your buddies in
the NFL and say, hey, play up to your standard.
I got a guy who's holding it down for two
to four hours on a Saturday. Who need you guys
to come through and pull up.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Your figured like dynamite for Jonas. But he just can't
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Two to four hours depends so you do my show
one time, that you do it one time.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And that's what you're thinking. Depends as long as I
keep get my check. You go right ahead, you go
do that show for four hours. By the way, did
you make sure it's good? Though? Did you hear Metallica
is going to play in Blacksburg?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
They're going to play at the stage. I think it's
I think it's coming up in May.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They're gonna oh not for the gang, no, no, nothing,
they do.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
For the runouts as you if you ever been there,
by the way, for have you guys been there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Never been? Never been?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I showed because so when my daughter has soccer games,
I've got like a rock mix that I play, so
enter Sandman's part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
The hard thing is is like they'll ask about the lyrics.
I'm like, oh gosh, and they're like, what's what's Sandman?
I'm like, oh, okay, Well, I was like, it's kind
of like the Boogeyman kind of like anyway, It's like
it's like you, like, my children are not of age
to actually explain to the lyrics of most songs, so
they have an understanding of it, especially during a certain era.
(29:39):
But in particular rock songs. That being said, it's part
of the mix. And she's like, why do you why
do you think this song is so much fun? I go, well, like,
look at this video, and so I'd show her like
the intro to when the team's run out for Virginia Tech.
So it's like they see the crowd, the lights, the
team running out, and she's like, oh, okay, I get
it now, Daddy, I get it. So now she gets
(30:00):
pumped up about every time she hears it.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
It's I think the best as far as college football
songs and traditions.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
It Just look all respect to House of Pain in Wisconsin.
And you know, if you want to do mister bwa
man Arbor.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Gonta, give you the problem with the House of Pain
and Wisconsin or jump around all that, it's the fact that,
like when we were there last, it wasn't as much fun.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It wasn't a close game. They weren't up. Bama was
beating them.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So you get to that point in the game they
lost their starting quarterback, Tyler Van Dyke, and it was like,
all right, it feels like everyone's waiting for this.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Now they're just gonna leave.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
So That's the problem is once you get into the game,
if you're not being competitive, there's a different feeling that's
associated with that song. At least at the beginning of
the game, like it's zero zero, everyone's excited, like we're
in this thing, we're part of the home field advantage
until we're not, you know, But you don't get the
song after that.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, it's pretty sweet, So that'll be That's always a Jonas.
You need to fly out there and you need to
experience it in real life. That's what let's go. Why
why does that have to be we? Why can't just
you go?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, I would prefer that, but I want you guys
to think that I want to be seen with you,
so I mean, I'll make it happen alone.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I got we tried the fine system. I'm the only
one who donated. I don't even think donated.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You actually did, actually did so, Jonas would have owed
the most money out of everyone anyway. Why is that, Well,
because you're a passive aggressive at least two to three
times a show.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Because LaVar really hasn't gone back and back into history
with some of those diagoms.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We He hasn't done any of that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No what, I'll just keep it real man like when
you bring it up. When you bring it up, I'm
gonna tell you the truth of it from my vantage point.
But you guys chose the wrong one to get me
on fines.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Although I will say this, I do miss the coy
pond story. That is my call. I know, get I'm
mad about it. That's the time, the greatest story. I
lost family members that that that whole. I didn't realize
they're so expensive. What happened with the Brode? They're super expensive?
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Bro Like, you have no idea how much money I
lost when my my core stopped to stop. Generator they had,
they had names and everything. My kids named them. So
now what is a generator?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
After the KOI?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
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Speaker 3 (32:26):
What's what happened to the KOI? I bet it smelled though? Huh?
It was bad. It was bad. I was so I
was so upset. My wife's my wife's I'm done.
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Did you guys see the speculation out there when it
comes to the potential movement, the potential trade of Hassan Reddick.
Apparently the Detroit Lions have kicked the tires with Aiden
Hudgson going down with the injury. By the way, I
think if I have this correct, the guy who he
accidentally leg whipped that. He snapped his leg on like
(35:32):
the next day got a massive contract extension. Tang No
really a Lee McNeil, Yeah, yeah, you got kind of
odd timing. But Hassan Reddick is uh is out there
apparently the new how much would it cost him to
pull off that trade with the Jets? A lot of
the Lions and then and then Hassan Reddick is going
(35:55):
to want a contract done right, So it's not they
don't get the just absorb what it is. Like, Well,
here's what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
They could do the trade with the Jets right because
there's like, no, he doesn't have like a no trade
class where he can exercise it, does it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, here's where it gets interesting.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So the Jets would reportedly have to send a twenty
twenty six second round pick to the Eagles if the
Jets traded him back to the NFC.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Ooh, so how he rose?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Ooh, he's a beast, He's a beast.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He knew his son was going to be a problem
for him.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He was already playing, don't don't bring that back over here, please,
y'all could have him, but don't send him back.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
In So how he rose was just sitting back going.
I mean, we got problems here, but at least one
of those problems. But yeah, sod reddick, you know, at
least they are well. He could be helping the Eagles
right now too.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
For what.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I just thought that, you know, his new agency was
going to be able to get this whole thing square.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh you know that's C's boy, man, you gotta yeah,
that's right. I like Drew. He's a good dude.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I could tell when you like somebody, you like your
damn Yeah, I mean I can tell when you don't
like somebody.
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