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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Good morning?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
All right, your Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, let's discuss because apparently,
while Russell Wilson was waxing poetically at his end of
season press conference talking about how he plans to be
back in Pittsburgh. He wants to be back, loved his
time there, loved his teammates, the city, the setup, all
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of that, and at times played pretty good quarterback for
the Steelers this year. But apparently not everything was all
that smooth when it came to Russell Wilson, even though
he's working out in Pittsburgh Steelers gear, he's doing all
the stuff after the season here and trying to talk
about how great the organization is. Mark Coboli, who covers
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the Pittsburgh Steelers, he pointed out that, well, listen, you know,
not everything was apparently all that smooth because he did
not see eye to eye with offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.
As Kaboli put it, when he wrote up his column
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discussing the end of the season and the Pittsburgh Steelers
and what their plan is at quarterback. He said the
following that the working relationship between Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson,
they fought through it their differences as best as they could,
but it was not a great working relationship. And there
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is some thought there that the organization and people within
the organization, including Arthur Smith at one point, preferred Justin
Fields over Russell Wilson. So, huh, all that is in
the back Druser?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Is that a smear? Is that a smear campaign? Though?
I will say this, if you think about.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It, hasn't that kind of been Russell Wilson's resume?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's like, wasn't that how it was? And like you.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Remember seeing how him and Sean Payton interacted and Denver, Yeah,
and just kind of how his teammates eventually came out
talked about him and how they felt about him in Seattle.
So this seems like this kind of is following him
in terms of how he's viewed.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's like the third time we've heard something like this,
and you know, they there was reports that came out
this season where they and even you know in what
Mark Botley reported here at the end of the season,
and he put this out yesterday or the day before,
just saying, look, they spent a lot of time working
together to learn the offense. They even joked about it
at one point Mike Tomlin mentioned it. But as much
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as they work together and tried to work through it
just not a great relationship overall. And now this is
to your point, Seattle, he had a falling out with
Pete Carroll, Denver, he had a falling out with everybody Pittsburgh.
Apparently him in the offensive coordinator did not see eye
to eye. And we're not having the greatest working relationship
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while trying to, you know, get the offense together. From
a player standpoint, this does feel like it's not so
much as Seattle thing. Maybe it's not a Denver thing.
Maybe it's not a Pittsburgh thing.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
This just like it's a Russell Wilson thing. Yeah, that's
what sounds like. Like it's a diva mentality. And listen, well,
for whatever it's worth, you know, quarterbacks are divas. They're
just different type of people man, and like receivers like these,
these guys have different types of ment to emotional makeups
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and how they do things and how they handle things.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And some guys are much more extreme than the other.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist, and I
don't think it takes somebody being bold enough or brave
enough to actually say that, oh without getting in trouble
or getting accused of being a hater of this person
or data that whatever it may be, that you would
say your conclusion of Russell Wilson is that he's a diva.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I knew it was official.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
When he had that shiny ass prompt suit on with
the shiny shoes, Like he's a diva, like, no doubt
about it. That his approach to things. You know, he's
been in an Entourage movie, he married a singer entertainer.
You know, there was the whole conversation point when you
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remember when Tom Brady was in the super Bowl and
Russell Wilson was sitting with the commissioner and there were
reports that came out that Russell Wilson won it to
kind of pull off the same exact thing, go to
a market, create the same environment that Tom Brady. You
remember that, Like, I just think that everything that you
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look at says, if it looks like a duck, walks
like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
And Russell Wilson is a diva. He walks like one,
he talks like one, and he acts like one. And
that just is what it is. So the question is
is his results do his results offset the diva mentality?
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You know, you look at a guy like Aaron Rodgers,
nobody is surprised when you say Aaron Rodgers is a diva.
It just is what it is. He has diva tendencies,
he does things in a diva way. He's in the media,
he wants to make sure that you can hear his
voice and hear how he talks about things and his
superior reasoning into as to why things happen the way
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that they do. A special within his ecosystem. And you
know what, He's been talented enough in years past where
he could get away with it. It's just that the
water ran bad, the whale went bad for him when
he went to New York. Didn't play out the way
that he thought it would play out. Russell Wilson, he
had some really good, good weeks with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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But I find it not surprising that come the end
of the season, after a disappointing departure from the playoffs
and not having as much offensive output as you would
have liked to have seen from this team. That you
hear some of these things surface about the quarterback because
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you got that feeling coming out of Denver. That the
reason why him and Sean Payton kind of butted heads
is the guy with the offense, the office in the
building and the twenty million dollar house with three bathrooms
and one hundred different you know, or a hundred different
bathrooms and only three bedrooms that you know, this is
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just a different dude.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You're dealing with a different type of dude.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I think you're kind of being unfair and misrepresenting where
he lived in Denver. It was okay, four bedrooms, twelve
craft closets like that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That was I mean, I wasn't far off.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I mean, you know, I feel like we've got I
wasn't far here.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
If we're going to do it, how many did I say?
Sixteen bathrooms? Three rooms? Far off? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean, look, and who knows. And this is not
to discredit the reporting of of Koboli, who's been covering
you know, the Steelers for years and years. I mean
I would assume, you know, his sources are pretty good
on this. Maybe this is true that Russ and Arthur
Smith as OC didn't have a great working relationship, and
maybe this will impact what they do moving forward if
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he was that much of a diva. I just I
look at it like this any way you want to
slice it. The Steelers are in no man's land in
that division. They just are, like thankfully the Cleveland Brown
are a vomit bucket, and you can look to them
and go, well, at least we're not them. But when
you look around that division, that conference, and your solution
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at quarterback is and your answer at quarterback and predicament
at quarterback is the same as it was last year.
This year they were supposed to learn who their guy
was going to be going forward, like you would have
like whether it was going to be justin Fields, whether
it was going to be Russell Wilson. A they're on
the Chiefs, but let's find out who gets this gig?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
They don't have an answer now, And you just played
an entire season and went to the playoffs. That's bad.
Like you're no man's land again in that division, same
as you were last year going into the season. So basically,
what did this year accomplish? Like I really don't know,
like you're the same team.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You want to know what it accomplished.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know what it accomplished, Jonas Unfortunately it accomplished almost
justify all of the critics of Mike Tomlin. You know,
I've heard this whole undercurrent of how people from internal
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positions that may not be or may be still associated
with the organization or not associated with the organization talking
about how the culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Has been lost.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And it's not something that I've ever wanted to believe,
because I feel like what I see at Mike Tomlin
is certainly a man who embraces what the still city represents.
And so when I heard that, these were kind of
the sentiments that were being you know, kind of put
out there as it applied to Mike Tomlin and what
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the locker room was like, or what the culture was
like and what it's become from what it was when
guys like Rod Woodson and Greg Lloyd and Levon Kirkland.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We're in that locker room too. Now with the.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Current group of guys that are there, It's like the
things that made the Steelers, what made the Steelers through
the Chuck Nole era, through the Bill Coward era and
maybe potentially the early days of when Mike.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Tomlin was there are gone.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And then you start to say to yourself, no, because
you listen to the way Mike Tomlin interviews and his soundbites,
and you get a very solid feeling of he's very
very rooted in the person that he is, the principles,
the values that he represents. You get a great feel for,
you know, what you believe him to be by the
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things that he says and how he represents himself. But
then you hear about all of these situations that continue
to keep arising, you know, starting with Antonio Brown and
you know the beef between him and Ben Roethlisberger, and
then now you got this receiver. You know, you got
the Pickings deal. Then you know now the latest being,
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you know, the beef between Russell Wilson and the offensive coordinator.
It's like, why did you even bring Russell Wilson there?
Like it's kind of interesting because when I said it,
it's like, he's not a Pittsburgh guy, but yet you
brought him there. And while for a moment in time
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it kind of looked like it might work out, then
you come to find out later on that there was
like internal beefing going on with Russell Wilson and the
coaching staff or the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Then you start to think to yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Huh, like, oh, Justin Fields might have been the better option.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Justin Fields didn't play that well as a startup.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
He's like, Russ is there and Justin's there because it
didn't work with the guy you spent a first round
pick on and Kenny Pickett and if you remember, and
if you remember, there was and look Mark Madden who's
covered Pittsburgh sports for long time, and he was consistent
on this the entire time and said Pickett refused to
go into a game at one point or refuse to
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suit There was an opportunity for him to suit up,
but he was going to be a backup and he
refused to so he didn't like That's another story that
came out last year. So there is a lot of
stuff that you bring up that you look at and go,
that's kind of you don't hear that like, and and
they can try and dispute it and refute it all
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they want, but there is seemingly a lot of chaos there,
kind of under underreported and underdiscussed based on how everybody
feels about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I'm just I've never been one to try to start
any type of be for drama that's connected to a
fine coach.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I just never. I've never been.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Into that and to speculate, because that can be damaging.
I'm on a national platform and I like to try
to be as responsible as I possibly can when I'm
speaking on coaches.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And even players.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I just that's why I got into media to begin,
because I feel like the misrepresentation of players and coaches
at times is unbearable to me. You got people that
I have no idea what things really are about, haven't
experienced it, but yet they feel the need to define
it and report it and feed it to the masses
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of people. That's why I got into media. So I
try to be very careful and cognizant of how I'm
representing what I say. I would like to try to
be as accurate as I possibly can and be fair
and even so that the voice that I'm giving is
a voice of not only the people and someone who's
reporting what they feel and opinions to the people, but
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also what I feel and what the opinions are of
the athlete and.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The coaches as well. And I just got to be honest.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
With you, I feel like there is an escalation of
smoke that is coming from Pittsburgh. I feel like there
might have have to be more discussion surrounding what is
the future of the Pittsburgh Steelers, because I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Know that now.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Some of the things that I've heard, like that culture
of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent, especially in the locker
room and around the building, if it's getting lost, if
the message has been so diluted and eroded through the years,
if that's what it is, and now it's just more
so the figurehead of seeing and hearing what Mike Tomlin
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represents almost more so is representative of himself, not so
much of the team and the organization. I just wonder
if there is some validity to that statement when you
hear it being said. And I'm just basing that off
of things I've heard from former players and people who've
been around it. That's not me making it up, that's
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me hearing it from people I've been around, that have
been in the building, that have experienced it firsthand, and
that that for me at first, I was like, yeah,
that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That doesn't sound right to me. I don't subscribe to that.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What's wrong with asking the question? Yeah, like what's wrong
with heay Man?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They're just asking that, Like you gotta start asking it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
They're just every year there's there's some issue, there's something
that pops up, and he just wonder, Like I love
Mike Tomlin. I mean, if they were going to make
him available for a trade, somebody would trade for him.
You'd be an upgrade in a lot of places, and
just you do wonder. There's just there seems to be
a lot of stuff going on there every year, every
single year.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's like it's interesting because the way he handles the media,
it's very it's very calculated, and it really really is
very strong with how his brand has been built. His
persona is connected to the way he handles himself, much
like a Bill Belichick. But the difference here is you
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bring a guy that's witty, who strong willed, alpha male
type of guy, type A type personality, and Mike Tomlin,
and he's fitting into a culture that's already been established
and built. Jonas right, like Chuck Nole, alpha male, strong
type of guy led the Steel curtain led a lot
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of really really amazing football players during his tenure. Bill
Cower the same exact carbon copy, just a younger, newer
version of what Chuck Nole represented, and seemingly.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's what you got.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And Mike Tomlin when he took over for Bill Cower,
So you're talking about something that was already established. Whereas
when you think about the persona of Bill Belichick and
what he represented and how he built his brand within
the media because of how he handled the media and
his calculated approach to how he did interviews and what
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he did, he created that he was the beginning. He
was the alpha of the situation. He was the creator
of the culture and how it was seen. So whoever
came after that would be fitting in what it was
that he created culturally speaking as a New England Patriot.
And I just wonder for Mike Tomlin in his scenario
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and where he's at right now, is this what could
ultimately be the undoing of what Mike Tomlin is as
the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, is that you're not
the creator of the culture.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You are in the lineage.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You are in the line of it, and at some
point you got to understand that those things that helped
you to become as popular as you became as the
coach are based off of what we're established. Those principles
and those core values, they were established before you got there,
So you being how you are organically plays into what
this organization has represented. But if that's not really what
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it is, and it's just the persona that plays out
in the media, and now you're this far into the
tenure of your time there as a coach, and it
seems like there's an exposing of maybe the realness or
the trueness isn't what it appears to be. Now the
question becomes, well, who is Mike Tomlin? Who does what
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does he really represent? How does that play a part
into where this team goes and how it achieves or
doesn't achieve the success level of it Because seemingly you're
getting the same exact results every single year.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You don't lose.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You're good enough to not be bad, but you're not
good enough to be better than what you've become.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's almost like a college coach who's winning with somebody
else's recruiting class.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean, but now you don't have that recruiting class. Anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So now you're left to win what you're creating, and
you win, but you're not winning at the level you
were when you came in took over Bill. Yeah, you
think about it. That super Bowl that he won was
that was Bill Cowarts team. So I mean, I don't know,
you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 4 (20:45):
Man, this song stinks.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
You better learned to love it. He's going to be
at the Super Bowl. Jonas.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Who is that?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
It's Kendrick and Sizza Cool.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
She's blowing up.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Everybody loves except Jonas. Yeah, Sizza Yeah, s z a.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, okay, Jonas.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
You didn't know who Zendaya was?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I mean, yeah, I just don't. I don't get what
all the hype is.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I don't know what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I don't I don't understand. Like and then I asked
Lee and Lorena, I'm like, hey, who's Sindia? Like, you
know who Senda? She's dating Tom Holland, Who's what is
that a clothing brand? Tom Holland?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
You remember who Tom Holland?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I was thinking, we just talked about it two days ago.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Where does Zendeia come from? Though?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I don't know where does Zindia come from?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, I'm sure Lorena knows where she came from?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
But no, thank you, Lorena? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh is that the show where like everybody's a drug
addict and.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Like one of the main characters not hey listen though
I'm not asked that. I'm asking where did the conversation?
Like Lee, why did you bring up Zendaya?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Asking?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I I brought her up the other day because I
saw some like on on Twitter there was like a
headline Zindian and so and so, and I was like,
who is India? Why is that a headline? And then
they filled me in on who Zendia.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Was because she got gaged. Did they got in gamede
Spider Man and Mary Jane?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Whoever, whoever Tom Holland is, Tom Holland could walk in
here with a name card that says I'm Tom Holland.
I have no idea who he is, no clue, no offense.
I mean, if he's a listener of the program, why
wouldn't he be. We appreciate.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean they've been they've been rocking out for a
little while now, right, What do you mean by that they've.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Been together for a while.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They're both exactly They are built physically exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's what's that mean?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They're both built the same.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That guy doesn't even that guy's knock anymore. He just
walks through a key hole. Why is that's like a ten?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I mean she's probably like a buck faf damn or ninety.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Tom Hollin's a uh mister athletic now, I mean he's
very acrobatic.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
He's built, he's ripped, he's built. Yeah, he's on the
cover of Men's Health.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Are you what are you looking at? He's on the
cover of Men's health.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, I saw that at the at the grocery store yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Tom Holland is on the cover of Men.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
He's a ripped dude, is what I'm trying to say.
You're trying to say he's a skinny guy and he's
built like Zendia.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He's ripped.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's a ripped dude. You're telling LeVar Arrington. Yeah, that
Tom Holland is a ripped dude.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You better keep that to yourself.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, I regret saying that, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Like that might be the dumb thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Is that worse than when they were saying brooks kep
go's built like a linebacker at a buck eighty five.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I mean when you weigh when you weigh one hundred pounds,
it's not hard to look ripped, you know, Like it's
not hard to see a person's muscles and see their bones, Like, yeah,
you could show them like looking like he's got muscles
and stuff, which he does.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I mean he does, but he's little. He's a little dude.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's not hard to be be six y five and
be you know, two hundred and sixty pounds seventy pounds
and be ripped. Then out I'm like, okay, that's cool,
but you're like literally five foot what how tall is he?
Five eight?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, little dude.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, five eight, weighs one hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Five You got which you got?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And you're ripped and they're gonna put you on men's
health Like come on, man, stop that.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah different.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Here's the problem, though, you can't do this with Lee
around Oscar season because he's an actor, right, yes, okay,
you can't do it around the Oscar season with leagues.
He defends every movie, every actor, every everything, not when
it comes to the Oscars. Okay, is he up for
an Oscar?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
No? In fact, he's I don't think he's ever been
up for an Oscar.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
He actually had some some worthy stuff as a kid,
but recently he's more of a you know, Marvel character,
so they don't get those.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Good for him, it's getting paid, but I still have
no idea.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean, he is ripped up now now that I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Looking, you're googling him.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Huh, he's ripped up for him.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
His a little skinny ass coming into big people's lives.
You know us that have to go on PhD weight
loss doctor.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know what I mean? Like your mother for kick
your ass if I see you.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
So I'm talking about Yeah, two.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Pro little dudes acting like it's it like you got
to get in shape, Like all you gotta do is
lift one weight to show a muscle. One wait, do
one set up to get a muscle. Meanwhile, people like me,
we got to work out for like months at a
time just to see a ripple.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So bitch, yeah, and then you know what, and then
Lee's gonna come on here and defend him. But he
won't defend you. That's what kisses me up.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's just stupid because Lee's built way worse than me.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Damn, wow, we're Lea's going to the gym nowadays two days.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, he said he was, but I don't believe it. Yeah,
I know, Lorraina said she's going to start.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
We took a photo at the gym.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, at least get really committed to it. Man, he's
walking away going to the gym together.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean Lee went today.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Just make sure you get a video and leave running
on the traadmill because that will be the funny.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You should have seen him today, LeVar. He was sweating.
There was bullets coming from all orifices of his face.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Ew, the incline was like a twelve.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You should see Lee trying to run from his place
to get to the gym.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Now, Lee, is it is it a known fact in
your house that you're working out with Lora?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Was that? Or is that breaking news? An?
Speaker 8 (27:18):
You know what, It's funny you bring that up far
that was discovered not long ago.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Oh, I mean, why don't y'all keep the workout thing
going on?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Like Lee clearly needs some more peace of mind in
his in his you know, his daily living.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I mean, he needs he needs a spot while he's benching.
What do you want?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Like, he needs a spot, He needs a better spotter
in life to.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Giving him consistency and motivation.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, there you go, whichppreciate, thank you?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
And protein drinks.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love the Oh okay, all right, Lee?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Are you giving Lorena those same things in return?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I am?
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Indeed. Yeah, we're keeping each other motivated.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's wow, and delivering her protein drinks.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
No, he doesn't have any protein drinks.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Lee doesn't have protein drinks. Okay, alright e. Then well
that'll do it. That'll wrap up this edition of Lee
and Lorena at the gym.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He does he does it just says bombased sapphire on
the front.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's is there protein and bombay sapphire. I don't know
that would be a first.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
By the way, LeVar, I do want to mention this.
You've got some company. You've got some company. I was
gonna we were gonna do this, but I want to
make sure we get this in before we're going to
break here. The College Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, and that's the new one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Michael Vick he's in there. Nick Sabin, he's in there.
Urban Meyer.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That's that's two of the best ever.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Michael Strahan he's in there.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I didn't even know that he played college football.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, what do you think? He went straight to the pro?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
How do you make it to the College Football Hall
of Fame from the college Michael Strahan went to?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I mean, where do you go? Texas Southern. I think
they went to Texas Southern. But other players Blake Elliott,
Greg Essinger, Graham Harrold Slayton.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Slayton, Yeah, running back from West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
By the way, he was so good.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He was dope.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
West Virginia loading Nada is also.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Going to load nada. That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
So you get yourself some company there in the Hall
of Fame class.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So I mean, clearly the coaches are the headliners and
Mike Vick, you know, they're the headliners of this class.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I mean, any like any any.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Welcome, welcome to the family. You know, I'll see them there.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'll be there and uh, based on how this past
year went, uh, probably gonna get a little whild there
at some point.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Oh, man, Tommy Fraser is a party animal. Man shouts
out to my man, Tommy.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Frazer, Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Zach Wigert, that's my home boy. I love seeing Zach
every time I go there. Marcus Allen and Ronnie Lot
they're the ogs. Like straight o G, double O G trip,
triple O G. They they they just bro They're like
they're just different. Marcus like really cool.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Though.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Marcus Allen's in like a bunch of Hall of Fames.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, I mean, if there's a Hall of Fame, he's
in it. Yeah, of everything. Stupid man, get out of here,
wrong with you.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I just say, he's got a lot of teammates over
the years.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, he had, Yes, he had.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'll never forget when we had Marcus. We had Marcus
Allen as a guest Mike North, so Marcus out, he goes, Hey, Marcus,
I gotta ask you a question because I've remember had
a chance to talk to you. But uh, I just
heard some stuff, you know, throughout the years. Gosh, you
must have been tired when you were playing, okay, And
(31:31):
he didn't know how to answer, and he was like,
a you caught me.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean he doesn't look at day over thirty one,
God like, he's a good looking dude. His his swag
and his personality is one of a kind. I mean,
you know, if you're Marcus Allen, that's just kind of
like it's a it's what they call a blessing and
a curse all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And if you know, you know that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And by the way, and by the way, a running
back and played full back at times in his career
with the and still still with it, like hasn't lost
a step. It looks great, like.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Mentally is still there everything now. Man, So.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Good for him, Yeah, definitely, I wonder what that like
if they did a documentary on him.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well, he was involved in one about o j Simpson,
but for other reasons in that documentary.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, but what if they went to the side and said,
like the moufossa movie that just came out, you you
go to the to the side, and you like, let's
get a different vantage point of what it was like
to be a usc running back and and there weren't
any questionable murders or anything involved.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
It was just.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
It was just living life in southern California. He did
quite all right, shouts out the Marcus Allen, Let the go,
Baby Go it is.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
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(34:12):
this weekend in the NFL, some concern I believe we've
we've lost Lebar so we will try and connect with
him here in just a moment. But there's some concern
out there that Tom Brady is dealing with what some
people have called a quote unquote conflict of interest because
he's going to be calling the Commander's Lions game, and
(34:35):
he also happens to be very interested in bringing Ben Johnson,
the offensive coordinator for Detroit to Las Vegas to be
the coach of the Raiders. Ben Johnson says that he
spoke with Tom Brady, you know, shortly before Packers game.
That was before that was the first time he had
actually met and spoken with Tom Brady. But there are
(34:56):
some people that think that Tom Brady's got a conflict
of interest. He's trying to hire this guy and he's
calling his game. I'm sorry, I just I don't I
really don't think it's that big of a deal. I
really don't like Tom Brady's called a bunch of games
this year. Chances are whoever gets the Raiders head coaching
job is probably going to be somebody who was coaching
(35:19):
in a game that Tom Brady called this year. So
to act now that all of a sudden, this isn't
the right way to do things. This is how things
should be done, and there should be some concern about it,
like what do you want? You allowed him to be
a part of this while he was trying to become
part owner of the Raiders. This is what happens. It's
like the gambling stuff, like you wanted gambling in your sport.
(35:42):
There's going to be some issues that may be a
little bit awkward or uncomfortable. But it's too late now
toothpastees out of the tube. He's calling the game. I
think people are kind of making a little bit too
much out of this. I don't look at this as
being him not being able to do his job correctly
because somebody that he wants to hire as a head
coach happens to be on the sideline for a team
that he's calling a game for.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, but you still got to have an opinion towards it, right,
I mean, and you can't just brush over it and
just say, you know, this is someone who is calling
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I mean, there may be a moment.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
In time where there needs to be a criticism towards
Ben Johnson or whatever it may be, and because of
the maybe created conflict of interest in you wanting him,
you're going to make sure you represent yourself in the
best manner.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
That you can so you don't turn them off. I'm
just saying it's.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Possible to think that he might not do every single
thing he would do had he not had any type
of vested interest in one of the persons that was
a part of the game that he was calling.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
So if they hired Mike McCarthy as coach, and it
turns out Mike McCarthy's the head coach.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Of the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
You know how many Mike McCarthy games Tom Brady called
this year like an f load the first three four.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, but that's but you didn't know.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You didn't like ahead of it, Like right now, it's
not looked at as okay, he could possibly be the
coach of the Raiders. Tom Brady is now owner of
the Raiders, and Tom Brady is going to be a
part of the coaching search for the new coach.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's not where you're at with it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So you can't go back in twenty twenty twenty retrospect
and say that that was a problem then or could
have been a problem then because you didn't know. But
now you do, it's clear, it's present, it's here, it's
right in front of you. And the bottom line is
is that there is some truth to saying that. If indeed,
(37:42):
in fact, Tom Brady is interested in Ben Jonson taking
over the job and he's going to help choose who
the new head coach is going to be, and he's
one of the recipients and he's calling the game, there
could be a conflict of ventures there done.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I just I don't think there is, and I don't
think it's that give a deal, Like I really don't
like if there was some like gambling, like Tom Brady
owned a sports book and you know he's being It's
like I can understand that if he's got money on
a game, and like I can understand that, But this
is a guy that he that he potentially wants to
hire as a head coach, and he's an offensive coordinator
for a team of a game he's called. I just
(38:18):
I don't I don't see what the big deal is.
I really don't.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I just explained to I don't agree.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I don't think it's a big deal. Like, I don't
like you could say that I've got a lot of
coaches that he called.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You go take take a sip of water and think
about what I just said. Damn, that's what I think.
Hour three coming at y'all, Fox Radio.