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buying should be all right. So we got some collateral
damage from Super Bowl fifty nine. We have no idea
whether or not Travis Kelsey's gonna retire. I find it
hard to believe I'd have got retired in that game.
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I think he's gonna be back, That's my guess.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Some bad taste in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then like the visions of him, like, you know,
the cutaways of him, and the way he looked, the
b roll that they were leveraging. He just looked like
a dude that was defeated. Man Like, I don't you know,
I wouldn't want to walk away having been one of
the most dominant tight ends to ever play the game.
And that's your last memory of me. But that would
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just be my assessment of that, you know. And I
don't think there's any collateral damage in terms of anything
else other than you just came up short. Because the
dude is a winner, and he's got a ton of
Super Bowls, and he's got and he's got Taylor Swift
at the games.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh but that's see, that's where you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
There's plenty of collateral damage for this game, but you
have to be able to kind of think outside the box. Okay,
So for example of that box, the collateral damage is
Taylor Swift. I mean, it's all fun and games when
you went back to back Super Bowls and you're going
for a three peat and you're arguably the best tight
end potentially ever.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But I mean, she doesn't lose, So how is she
good to deal with losing?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Is she gonna be around quite as much? I mean,
this was a knock to her record too. I believe
there were ten.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And zer when she showed up this season, so she had.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
A great record as well. I mean, we've never seen
this before. How the Swift He's going to handle a
Super Bowl defeat? And who knows what this means for
her career moving forward and their relationship moving forward.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
All they know is wins.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's all they know.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah, they went awards, they're showing up that we've got
a rocket launcher in the studio. They're showing up supporting
their Kansas City chiefs, and now they've got to deal
with the fact that their guy Kelsey just got his
ass whooped on national television in front of one hundred
and twenty six million people.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
The next group up, the Dallas Cowboys collateral damage. I mean, one,
you've got a team that's won two Super Bowls in
the last what six years or so whatever, it's been
one with a backup, But you have to deal with
that now, the fact that like they're the team that's
all in, they are the team that now potentially with
this roster, maybe they're the ones that could go on
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a three p But more so than that, you moved
on from the guy that was their offensive coordinator. He
was in your house, he was your offensive coordinator and
Kevin Moore, and you moved off of him to then
let him go win a Super Bowl with the Eagles,
and now he's become the head coach with the New
Orleans Saints. Not to mention that, you know, again we
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already talked about Dan Quinn earlier this year, but again
another piece of collateral damage, where like even Jerry Jones
and the Dallas Cowboys are sitting there looking themselves like, dang,
we had that guy's r O C.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Now he's got a Now he's got a ring.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Did you hear what Jerry Jones said. I think it
might have been Thursday or Friday. Then New Orleans Eagles
got them some glu or hole, so he expected, well, no,
that was Afterwards he called it a shocker that the
Cowboys weren't this year Super Bowl and then went on
to say, let me get.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
That, Jerry, we know that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Uh that, but that's like creating. That's rhetoric, like you're
creating all like different conversation.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
He also said this, I wouldn't have signed Dak Prescott,
the highest paid player in the NFL, if now wasn't
when we wanted to win. This is a shaker to
be here at the Super Bowl and not have the
Cowboys here. I didn't plan on that when I made
the agreement with him. So we're going to do everything
we can to get there. I'm just starting to understand
him more though. And you know what the crazy thing
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is is far away from the legitimacy of what he
said is in terms of him reality, he truly believes that.
And if you're and if you're strategic enough, if you're
bold enough to say what you're feeling in the moments
that the microphone and the cameras are in your face,
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and you've, for all intensive purposes, he has garnered the
credibility in the belief of a tremendously large and supportive
fan base. For all the people that sit there and
say they they can't stand Jerry Jones and this, that
and the other within that Cowboy community, Jerry Jones is
like something like a lower case g O D to
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those people. Well, yea, because they're dormats. Okay, so there's
a lot of scratch with them dormats. He walking all,
he walking over top of a lot of scratch with
them dormats. Tell tell me if you guys agree. I
feel like the Cowboys are further away from being a
legitimate contender this year than they have been in like
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five or six.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, easily. And I think about your entire coaching staff.
Two of the guys you had on your staff. One
goes to Washington the division, wins to become the head
coach and plays in the NFC Championship Game. The other
now goes wins a Super Bowl ring as an OC
win and he's going to become a head coach for
the New Orleans Saints. And then the other one you
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had you just said to yourselves. We can't come to
an agreement, so we let Mike McCarthy's contract, you know,
terminator or expire. And so now you find yourselves with
Brian Schottenheim. I mean, this is not plan A. B.
See probably maybe D somewhere down the line. But again,
the Dallas Cowboys, because of this Philadelphia win, they're receiving
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a piece of collateral damage and all this. You know
who else another NFL team, the Miami Dolphins. You literally
fired Vic Fangio because he coached the defense too are
You had star players like Jalen Ramsey who literally was
quoted as saying they missed used us.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Think about that? Did they misuse the cornerbacks in Philly?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean, I look at the Miami Dolphins, a very
talented roster, and yet they pushed him out of town.
Philly couldn't hire Vic Fangio fast enough. There in lies
a super Bowl ring and one of the better defensive
performances we've seen. Again, talented defense in Philly. You gotta
give Vic Fangio some credit, seal with the way he
constructed that plan.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How damning is that, though, when you really think about it,
How damning is that that you have a Super Bowl
winning former offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator that was
one game away from being in that game. And they
meet up head to head in the NFC Championship. How which,
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by the way, the same flipping division. It's the same division.
You not only let these mother lovers get away from you,
you let them go into the same division you were in. Now.
I mean, Kellen is leaving, but a lot of if
we recall, some of the rumway that was allotted to
Mike McCarthy was based off of saying, you know what,
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we got to move on from Kellen Moore, I'm going
to take over the play calling duties.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It was like, oh, so.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Kellen is conveniently getting rolled under the bus for this
scenario of why you came up short this year. Keep
in mind there was a discon and it played out
in the media early on between Zimmer and Parsons. What
does that relationship look like? Micah didn't have the type
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of season this year that he had under Dan Quinn.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
He got a little derailed after that injury. Was that
a Thursday night gat?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, he started off hot, but I'm just saying
it wasn't. It just didn't look the same. That defense
didn't look the same under Zimmer. It just didn't. And
so I just think there's a lot of questions there.
So when you sit there and say, is it safe
to say they're further away from being a Super Bowl contender?
(09:38):
I think it all comes back to Jerry Jones's ability
to sell hope in the offseason, and what better place
to sit there and say what he said that you
quoted at the Super Bowl. You know how many Dallas
Cowboy fans is like, damn right, Jerry, let's get it going.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Let's get it going, Let's do what we need to do.
And you lean on the.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Fact that, Okay, we did play pay Dak Prescott, he's
going to come back healthy. We're we already took care
of c d Lamb. He's gonna come back. We're gonna
find CD somehow. We're gonna rebuild. We're gonna find somebody
to help ceedee Lamb. We're gonna get Mike Aside. We're
gonna find some pieces to build on that defense, sade
of the ball. We're gonna be a better team next year.
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We're gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
They're the least they're the least interesting team. In that division.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That's that's true. So so collateral damage lists giants really are.
We've got Taylor Swift, We've got the Dallas Cowboys, We've
got the Miami Dolphins now which are part of that
group because they wanted to move on for Vic Fangio
for coaching them too hard, mis misusing them.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Excuse me. Next up is Giselle punching.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I mean, if you think about it, if Patrick Mahomes
wins that Super Bowl, all right, Mahomes now has done
a three peat. He's got four super Bowls before he's
really thirty, and he's that much closer to trying to
surpass Tom Brady. And maybe people would make the case
in the short stint, all he's known is the AFC
Championship weekend, and obviously as many Super Bowls as has
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been to and Super Bowls he's won in that stint
that you would say, okay, he's in maybe goat status
in the short term, but maybe long term as well.
But now with the Eagles winning, not only is that
in question right where Tom Brady sits atop of.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
The mountain, still no one's been able to repeat.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The loss hurts Patrick Mahomes to the point where it
feels like getting past seven might be insurmountable or it
might be tough, depending on Travis Kelce what he decides
to do in the next year. This year, maybe Andy
Reid at some point he'll probably look to retire. All
those things are still out there, and now not having
that Super Bowl makes it that much harder for you
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to then get.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Past Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
So every single season now as Fox's number one analyst,
you're gonna get the X up there, the goat still
broadcasting for Fox. And then meanwhile, the relationships kind of
you know, do you separate at this point?
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Do you think that just out of spite? She watches
the broadcast in Portuguese, like just I can't hear them.
I don't want to. I don't want to with this,
Like can you throw somebody else on? Like so like
give me somebody else from you know, from the motherland,
so I can you actually take in this game?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
And I'd have to deal.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
With I feel like the better question is is does
the new addition have any interest in American football at all?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
The new addition, like the baby are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Like the new love interests both the.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
New love it is in the BJJ in jiu jitsu.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, they probably watching the UFC, you know the game,
you know, Yeah, I mean the question is, do you
really believe that that game was on in in Gsell's creb,
you know the other day?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
All I know is it's like he's going to be
calling those NFL games for the foreseeable future, and it's
gonna be a reminder all out there who the real
goat is.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
He definitely reminded them.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
And there does feel like we kind of touched on
this a little bit yesterday. It does feel like there's
a significantly different tone about his potential at catching Tom
Brady based on what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I did not think i'd feel that way, but I
feel that way now.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Like there was something about the jump from three to
four to where it was like, oh, this might actually happen.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
And now you're like, I don't know, dude.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Because I don't think he's playing that long, Like I
don't think he's coming close to playing as long as
Brady's I.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Just think I think the conversation opens up that and
and it's it kind of for my baby that's going
in the draft. It kind of was perfect timing for
for Edges defensive who.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Ryan Williams, the Alabama guy you said, your.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Baby, the guy a bunch of Oh that's who that
is talking about Abdul Carter.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The thing about it is is that, well, if y'all
let me make my thing point, I'm gonna make my point.
What would the fingernail kid be my baby for? Like
that's kind of weird, man, Like you made that awkward
like that. I don't I don't you know what. I'm
walking around holding his hand calling my baby, Like, where
where you going with that? Where you're trying to go?
(14:24):
I'm talking about the idea of defensing Patrick Mahomes. It's like,
if you can get a good enough defensive front, you
can do the things in coverage that well, you wouldn't
normally be able to do if you don't get pressure
on him with four men at max zero zero blitzes
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in the game. And Patrick Mahomes has one of the
lowest outputs of offense in his career, So it's gonna
you're now going to go back to placing. If I
was going to look for an offensive lineman or maybe
I felt like this year says, Okay, maybe I need
to value a running back a little bit more. Whatever
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it may be, a receiver, I need another receiver that
top spot. I can guarantee you the top spots in
this year's draft are going to be Edges, an interior
defensive lineman, because what this game represented was a blueprint
as to how you can get on top of this
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this Kansas City's Kansas City Chief team, whether you're in
the AFC or the NFC, because in NFC they won
the NFC and ultimately the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, that was a lot. That's the point I was
trying to get to and look at a deep defensive
tackle class. So I think there will be a lot
of guys who go off the board first round, first
first few rounds, and obviously I do, I do A
Carter is probably going to go off the board one
for a non quarterback. The only issue with with again
defending against Mahomes, I think Denver is the first team
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in the division actually has a pick and they pick
at twenty and then it's it's you know, the charges
at like twenty two and you know kind of on
down the line, you know, looking through it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Obviously, Kansas City and there as well.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But the Raiders are that other team that you'd say, Okay,
they've got Max Crosby, maybe they would be a team
that we throw in a consideration, but they're at six, like,
I'm not sure how do a car that gets there?
And plus they they need a quarterback. That being said,
it does bring up the AFC West as the other
team that it feels like there's a little collateral damage
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here because if there was ever a time, if you
think about this where Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid had a
red ass, it was following that loss to the Tampa
Bay Bucks where they come back, they respond. They're able
to you know, come back and rip off a couple
more Super Bowls and kind of reload. And it's not
like this team, as much as we want to kind
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of be down on them. Racie Rice will be back
at some point, if Kelsey comes back, if they have
another free agency as well as draft, and they can
you know, solidify that offensive line. This is a group
that very much is going to have a red ass
coming back. They try to win the AFC West, get
a top of the the AFC playoff picture, and try
to get back into that Super Bowl Game again, so
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collateral damage is kind of like the Las Vegas Raiders
who don't have a roster built there yet, and the
Chargers and Broncos that I mean, they're they're there. They're
not quite as good as the Chiefs, but I would
see say the Chiefs are going to take it out
on those guys next year with the way they try
to reload and rebound off of just an absolute blow.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Loss.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Got Jim Harbaugh waiting there as well too, you know,
thinking he was going to get an opportunity, Denver thinking
they were going to take the next step, and now
you got Casey ready to and by the way, one
of their unrestricted free agents, Tray Smith, there was some
speculation that he was going to be like on his
way out.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
After not that he had a great game.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
There was one play specifically where got called for a
holding because he got be so bad by Jalen Carter.
But if you're the Chiefs, do you not look at
what happened in that game and go we do whatever?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
We keep going heavy, heavy, heavy old line.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You gotta go heavy old line because if you know
that a four man front allows for defenses to use
their coverages in a more effective way against his which,
by the way, I mean when you're throwing those names
that that you just throw in through in, it does
make it more difficult to defense this team because there's
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going to be more pass concepts you can use route
wise for Patrick Mahomes. But keep in mind, it was
that taking away the first read from Patrick Mahomes that
bought those pass rushers just a little bit more time
to make him uncomfortable. And if I'm looking at it,
that's going to be my scheme going into this season.
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So I'm loading up, all right, guy, those teams that
we said are competitive in the West, you got bo Nicks,
young talent, and Denver you can load up. Like if
I'm if I'm the Chargers, you can load up.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
We got Herbert.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But if I am the Kansas City Chiefs having Patrick
Mahomes on my team, I want to make sure I
have a steel wall in front of my quarterback so
that he has time and he has protection safety that
leads to confidence in.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Him being able to do what he does best.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Did they bring I think they was it all five
new starters following the Tampa Bay Super Bowl loss.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, yeah, that next year. That's why I said, like,
they will rebuild the retool and they'll have a red
ass going into this. By the way, the Kansas City
Chiefs have a fifteen point seven million in salary cap
space heading the next year. And what's interesting about it is,
remember Mames signed that ten year, four and fifty million
dollars deal, and this is what's happened over the life
of the deal is they have been able to obviously
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restructure that as they receive bigger, you know, cap hits
depending on the year. So for example, you know Mahomes
again takes you to a Super Bowl, granted you know
you would have liked to win it, and he's Super
one MVP, you have a little more leverage your negotiation.
But he has seven years left on this deal. So
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unless Clark Hunt is going to be really cheap about it,
if you want to create more cap space, you're going
to continue to do what they've done. You're gonna you're
gonna restructure the You're gonna give him a signing bonus,
You're going to reduce his cap hit, which his base
salary for twenty twenty five is only sixteen point sixty
five zero, so you can even lessen that number more
depending on what they want to do. So they may
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depending on how that again they look at this, they
may not feel like they need to do much with it.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
But you can still figure out a.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Way of pushing those numbers down the line because you
have the best quarterback on the planet currently in the NFL,
so you can refinance with him and create little aditional
cap space.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
The problem for Trey Smith is.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I think he's gonna warn a contract somewere around twenty
million per year like he played well enough, or he's
going to cash in as one of the top paid
interior guards. So I don't know that they're going to
allocate that much just into one position, and it'll be
interesting to see where they go in the draft. Obviously
that they draft now thirty first with the Super Bowl
being finished, and you could find yourself with a solid
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either in tier defensive lineman there. That's where I think
they'll still be value. Obviously as Chris Jones gets up
there in age or offensive lineman like you're talking about
guard tackle something like that, both those should be still
available at that spot. But you know, I don'd have
to look at the free agency list to see who's
gonna be out there.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's gonna be interesting. It really will be to see
where they go with that pick.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
And this is a team that if you think about
any trades that they would potentially make with the start
of the new league year, it's this is a team
that you give away sometimes late first round picks because
is that guy gonna be a legitimate, bona fide starter
right now for a team that's in the window of
winning right now. If your answer is maybe not, depending
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on how you view those players available, you go deal
that pick and you say, we'd rather go trade for
a guy we know that can come in and start
and play right away, and we can take on that
veteran contract and we can make it work within our.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Salary cap space.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like That's that's how the teams at this spot, that's
how they look at draft picks. You know, everyone wants
to say, oh, we're gonna in the first round. Well, okay,
it may take them some time to develop. There's no
time for that with some of these teams. They want
to win right now. And if that's the case, you
don't mind giving them a couple first round picks.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Can I make a prediction here, No, Trey Smith, He'll
be signing with the Bears. Okay, like that because Ryan
Poles was there in Kansas City when they drafted him
and brought him in, and plenty of cap space too,
and they have a big need there. That's something they're
going to address. So Kansas City is going to be
looking for a new starting guard.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Of all people, I listed the Miami Dolphins, Taylor Swift,
Dallas l bunch of f who's receiving the most collateral damage?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I think it's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think it's Taylor Swift because I don't know, I
think it. I think I will say this, she can
turn her negative into a positive by creating an album
purely based upon the roller coaster ride of this season
and the heartbreak of how the season ended. It's like
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a relationship, right, It's like a breakup, a bad breakup
at the end of a relationship. If she turns an
album into this journey, I think it becomes a win.
But right now, I don't know why we can horrible
collateral damage here.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I don't know why we can't just keep it football.
I'm gonna go Giselle. She's gonna have to deal with
Tom Brady for football, and.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
There's not.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
You know, there's not a Brazilian jiu jitsu tournaments for
her to attend to try.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And clearly, well she's gonna be going.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Through some mental jujitsu just to be able to get
him out of her head.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sure, clearly there's enough jiu jitsu going on training wise
before you even get to the jiu jitsu competition. Thus,
nine months later comes to jiu jitsu protege.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
You gotta watch that anaconda choke. That's a true. It's
called a dars choke. It's an anaconda.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That's a true.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
What are you talking about? That's it? Put that thing
to sleep works, get that work.
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Speaker 6 (25:37):
According to Jay Glazer and a report that came out
on Sunday, the expectation is Aaron Rodgers is expected to
leave the New York Jets. They are expected to move on.
This from Glazier, Aaron Rodgers flew back to New Jersey
last week to meet with the Jets about his future
with the team, only to be told that the team
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was moving on from him. If that means that he
will be a June first designation that allows him to
sign with any team in the league on March twelve
if he decides to continue to play. Given that Aaron
made the effort to fly back to discuss his future.
All signs point to him continuing to play. It just
won't be for the Jets. So they didn't never play
for the Jets, damn. The real question becomes where does
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he play? And according to our good friends at DraftKings,
the odds are out and the Pittsburgh Steelers are currently
the favorite to land Aaron Rodgers at plus two hundred,
followed by the Raiders, the Niners, the Vikings, and the Colts.
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So those are your top teams when it comes to
odds team.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I just don't think he is Pittsburgh material.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Here we go again, Here we go again, Really, Judges,
I mean, the last time you said that about a guy.
He took you guys to the playoffs barely, and after
what he did to you guys in the super barely listen,
barely barely and barely you know, like, okay, it was
really Seattle's defense, not not Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Even though he did thought about Rogers against.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Get you guys there though.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah barely. You know, he did come in and have
a few good games.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
But you know, wait, you're telling me last year if
Russell Wilson's not your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You guys make the playoffs even.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
As good as the defense was, yeah, because we always
make and the defense hasn't been as good as they
need to be. You know, they're they've been. They got
to do better too, they're lacking as well. But I
just didn't feel like, you know, I was hoping, I
was pulling forward justin fields to do better, because well,
I think he fits the culture, which I don't know
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if that's an eroding culture now from what I'm hearing,
is kind of diminishing and dwindling down. But I just don't.
I did not think that Russell Wilson's way of going
about things. And this is not an attack on him.
It's just just thinking about how our city is and
how I grew up understanding what Pittsburgh Football, Steeler, you know,
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Steeler's culture is. Like, I just didn't feel like all
that glitz and glamour that Russell Wilson represented was what
Pittsburgh football represents.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And I would say, in his defense, though he didn't
come out with a new sandwich during.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
The season, that fair, that's fair. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I mean, I feel like Aaron Rodgers, like, yeah, you
go in there and you do.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That like what he did to to Xerxes.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I just don't think that plays out well at all
in Pittsburgh. You know, you go in there and you
want to start hearing people out.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I just don't want ncapped Zerxes. And I thought we
came to the conclusion that he wasn't involved at all.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think he did. I never I never jumped off
of that. I always stayed on it. It's just that
after all the reports came out, Yeah, because I think
the milk went bad after that sheeese. I think Woody Johnson,
I think the milk went bad. I think Woody Johnson
really was leaning on Aaron Rodgers as a friend, a
confidant as well as, you know, his secret weapon to
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getting this team to the next level. And all these
things were being done, like bringing in Davante Adams or
changing coaches, whatever may have been, and it got worse,
and it's like, wait, it's supposed to turn out like
how Tom Brady did. It isn't when you came here,
didn't you say this is going to happen the way
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this happened, and this is how it's supposed to go.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's not how it's going well. I hate you. I mean,
I hate you.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I mean, who's the most recent Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback to
win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Ben Roethlisberg. Can he Pickett?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Well, so they should, that's a trick question. They said
he got.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Some good jobs.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
They're not a good job John.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
They're not in a position to dictate John any quarter
that's misleading.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
And by the way, before Kenny Pickett, it was Russell
Wilson because he just happen to.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Win with set.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Both are misleading, both are misleading. They did not win
as Steeler quarterbacks. Misleading information. No, strike it from the record, people, Jorie,
he did not hear this. Here's the reality. If it's
not Rogers, who's gonna be the quarterback? Then the Steelers
next year? It's a it's a why does it have
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to be if not Rogers, because.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There's not Yeah, I mean I get that, But it
could be the betting odds favorite for his landing spot.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We could be talking about a different team for Rogers
the land and he doesn't need the further dwindled down
the culture in Pittsburgh, Like, let's start.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Over Russell Wilson or Rodgers and Pittsburgh next year. Who
do you want? Who's saga?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Russell Wilson or Rogers neither to pick one.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Any quarterback, pick any quarter justin justin fields sticks pick
thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Something They have been common and I'm just saying there's something.
There's something there.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I see it. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It feels like the halftime show again.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
You know what the can't get it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We can't get it. We can't dance revolution.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Look here's me, uh here make rates baiting. The revolution
will be televised in Pittsburgh. That Kendrick LeVar, Kendrick LeVar, I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Just I'm just not sure that Pittsburgh's ready.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Oh no, not the voice, not the voice.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Pittsburgh's ready for that revolution.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That's why you Russell Wilson, I will say this thought
was the era.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
We we know who you were, Russ.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
We know a if you if you look at the
Steelers roster, it's not any better offensively than what you
had in New York.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
If we're being honest, you have a better offense in
New York. Well you got more more weapons.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Maybe maybe like the offensive line could be Maybe it's
a wash. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I mean Pittsburgh actually, you know, ran the ball right
and at times looked all right. But as far as
weapons to throw to, I would say that Jets have
the advantage. You know, running back Najie Harris has been productive,
you know, you go, I mean, Warren's been productive. Brutsol's
I think a stud. So maybe that's a wash too,
Maybe it's even there, tight end, I don't know. I'd
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probably lean friarm youth at that point. So I don't know,
but I would say it's even if not, the Jets
have the advantage.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So?
Speaker 4 (32:55):
If you looked at Rogers last year and you're the
Pittsburgh Steelers front office and you are looking at trying
to go bring him in, you have to be saying yourself,
we looked at Rogers, who, by the way, statistically didn't
have that bad of a year as everyone made it
out to be. But you have to look at it
and say, we feel like that had a lot to
do with him coming off an injury and another offseason
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to recover, another opportunity to prepare himself with Arthur Smith,
mind you, who's the OC, and knowing him I think
he'd want to have a quarterback like Rogers who he
feels like he could work with. They could do a
lot of things as far as changing plays and getting
in the right the perfect call. That would make some sense,
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but it still begs the question, you know, do you
have enough firepower out around him to fully utilize Rogers
in that offense?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I just think you got guys like Pickens who you know.
It's just he's going to be someone you have to
deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That's fun though. I mean, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, is
that fun? Do I want to have those type of conversations?
What does that look like? You come into that locker room.
I just think you come into that locker room the
way Aaron Rodgers seemingly, because I could be totally wrong,
but seemingly the way this dude handles things. I just
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don't know how that. I just feel like that would
be an irritant and an agitation that's unneeded.
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post championship moment, Like when Michael Jordan hugged the trophy
and was crying. That was just felt authentic, that felt genuine,
And now you've got like Jason Tatum trying way too hard.
Jalen Hurts is smoking a cigar sitting in front of
the trophy that it's just like, come on, dude, like.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We get it.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Like there was a commercial that was pumped out like
right after the game was over, they were ready to
fire it off.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I mean, that's not on them.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's that's on the people that are taking advantage of
those moments.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
What about like just.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Some genuine enthusiasm, you know, smoking your cigar in front
of your locker. Actually, winning isn't genuine.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Isn't there a smoking section to go do that in?
He's got to do it in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yes, in the stadium in one of the concourses. I'm
sure they've got a you know, a designated space for that.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Jonics. Is that what you want him to do?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah? I just walk up there, go up the.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Escalator and his pads and everything, and just take the
cigar with him.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
This is a lung dard free zone.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
This is why Tom Brady is so important to calling games.
It's like if Tom Brady was like it was so
unauthentic that I did, I'd be like, dang, was it?
Like Okay, I get it. Like he could do it,
but you you sign it. You ain't win to no
super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Damn Wait what about Tony Romo?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
He ain't nobody care. They ain't got no super Bowl Raine,
he shots fired. He can't do that, and I don't care.
Ain't enough bosses to boss me on telling Kirk kurb
Street that you ain't got no super Bowls to be
saying that ain't authentic? Sorry, sorry, Tom Brady. Can we
got a whole bunch of seven reasons to tell you
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why that ain't authentic?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Not you