February 13, 2025 • 38 mins
Joe Burrow wants the Bengals to be more aggressive with the salary cap. Matt Patricia is a great fit for the DC job in Ohio State but will fans be on board? And Cam Newton calling out former teammates is unnecessary.
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By the way, somebody did somebody did an offer up
on social media to have h Lee come to Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Again and shot on some beers and catch them.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't know why it's an impossible thought that we
could go to Green Bay. It's not for the draft.
I mean it feels like that's a doable, doable thing.
You know, maybe we get we get to work on that, Lee.
I mean, Lee, you're the Packers fan. You start hitting
up the powers that be?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, Lee, does anyone uh you know, and and any
one of the executives side listen to you?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Sure? Yeah, absolutely do they? Yeah? Absolutely, only when he's
snitching and tell him what to do.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
If you say to him, hey, we'd love to go
to the draft, are they like, oh okay, Lee, Or
are they like, oh, we thanks for bringing that to
our attention.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
They will say thanks for bringing that to our attention.
We'll look into it. We'll see, uh if we could
get a game plan together.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And then they give you.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
All that you're Tommy Bahama short. Just keep moving on
through life, You just keep walking.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, I mean that is what I do. But uh, yeah,
circle back, We'll circle back.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Who's your go to for stuff like that? Lee?
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Whoever we need to talk to.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
But I mean that first would be Scott.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, our Lord and Savior. Here's the selling point, all right.
So the draft is in Green Bay. We are on
in Green Bay. So we have an affiliate out there,
the great Steve Zabe and Zabe who Lebar was on
with last week at the super Bowl. He does a
show out there statewide. Mike Keller, great dude, worked with
him many times before. Also, there's a thought Abdul Carter
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could be going number one overall to Tennessee and Cleveland,
Rady's former stomping grounds. Cleveland is going number two. Travis Hunter,
the bar played for the Giants. They're picking third. I
mean it's like there's there's a real selling point here.
He's a packer saying, Lee, do you think you could
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sell Thisslie?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh yeah, definitely. As long as you guys are on board,
then I'll uh go go for it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I'm in, We're in, We're all ind is it?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Maybe one day I'll be in.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Plus, I made lots of friends out there who will
offer great airbnbs.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
If we need if we can't find hotels, because I
know they.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Will fill anything. Looks great to you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm not trusting Lee's Airbnb plugs.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No way Lee staying in a motel that comes with
a hard key and the plastic room number attached to it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They tell you know it's good. No way cockroaches tang.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, well, Nicodemus he lives there, man, Nicodemus followers. I'm
just telling you you don't want to mess with Nicodemus
and the followers.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Brother, They'll get you. It's a bad idea. No. Speaking
of the draft, I'm serious, rats, bro.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And speaking of uh, the draft coming up, the Cincinnati
Bengals are picking at seventeen, so they'll be, uh, they'll
be trying to build around that roster. You've got, you know,
more conversation about somebody else who would like to uh
maybe venture out and uh and try to go elsewhere.
One of their best defenders, most consistent defenders over the
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past several years, Jermaine Pratt.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Uh, he is looking for a trade. That's their best defender.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, he's one of their better, more consistent defenders. I
wouldn't say, but he's been really solid for them over
the past several years.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
He's looking for a trade.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
If he can't get a deal done, I've believe he's
in the final year of a three year contract, so
so par for the course with the Bengals, another player
looking to get a deal and demanding a trade if
you can't get it done, at least publicly. Joe Burrow
was actually talking about the Cincinnati Bengals cap situation with
Pardon my take, and had this to say.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
You could convert some of the money to a signing bonus,
will lower the cap hit. You can push some of
the money to the back end of the contract that
lowers the cap, and then when you get to the
back end of the contract you can restructure it and
convert it to a signing bonus. You understand the cap,
I mean not really kind of because we.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Don't think that it exists way more than we do.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Well, definitely, some teams seem to make it feel that way.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, I have just pretended it doesn't exist for.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
A while, and the Eagles are paying everybody. Yeah yeah,
so it seems like the way whatever they're doing bang bang, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
As you kind of pointed out, that's the couple different
ways you go about doing it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He's what he's not pointing out is when you do
extend it out So let's say, like, for example, you'll
hear me talk about the avoidable years on the end
of a contract. Those still count against your cap. You're
just spreading it out far enough because because even a
signing bonus it counts against your cap the differences you
spread out that signing bonus over the remainder of years
of the contract. So you know, just to make math easy,
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if you had a twenty million dollars signing bonus, you
had four years left, right, that's five million per year
as opposed to if you're going to pay him twenty
million in base salary. Does that make sense? So that's
that's in essence, how you go about, you know, making
or creating space within the cap. But as as Burrow's
kind of pointing out, those are essentially the two ways
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of doing it. The hard thing is that teams don't
necessarily always want to do it because they don't want
to have to have a guy who's not on their
roster count against their cap. Now it's becoming more of
the in vogue thing to do, and that's why you
see Philadelphia do it, you see the Saints do it,
and they'll they'll come up with other ways of getting
around it at that point. But that's in essence what
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a lot of teams are doing now that are having success.
And the problem is, and Burrough should I mean, and look,
it's a good situation for Burrow when you're a franchise quarterback,
when you've gotten that second big contract. I always keep saying,
you're you're the mortgage company. You're who the team comes
back to to refinance to create cap space, because there's
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no concerns about you as you know, as a player,
if you're in question, like they know you're their guy.
So whatever you're slated to make in base sally that
stated within the contract, they can always come back. You
convert some that in signing bonus and spread it out,
come back the next year, do it again, do it again,
do it again. And so they have to be willing
to do one of two things though. They have to
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have the cash and be willing to pay out the
cash in order to do that, and they have to
be willing to spend like that's the other portion of this.
You know, they can do different things to create you know,
cap space for Joe Burrow, but they're actually willing to
spend that money on players instead of put in their pockets.
So there's there's all sorts of different questions around to
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me how the Bengals are gonna handle this offseason with
some of their star players. But if it's anything like
we've seen in the past, they're gonna lose a guy
or two, Like they're probably gonna lose Trey hendricks Trey Hendrickson,
They'll probably lose t Higgins.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So if that happens, it's a rap. I'm sorry, it's
a rap. You can forget about it. If they lose Hendrickson,
that's it totally changes the way their defense, how it goes.
He is the catalyst of their defense. T Higgins is
a big hit too. I mean, you saw it when
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he was injured that they are different offense with him out.
They're much better defense when they have him in. I
mean off excuse me, there is much better offense when
they have Higgins. I just I think that's a brutal hit.
If I'm the Cincinnati Bengals, why do you allow that
to happen? Why do you allow I mean, if you can't,
if you cannot, you know, protect against it. I get it,
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But like like we're talking about it, you can ultimately
figure out a way to keep your best players you can,
and that's the bottom line. I mean, is t Higgins
going to go on the open market and get what
Jamar Chase will get? No, he's not, so figure it
out because somebody's going to pay him the same type
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of dollar that you would have had to pay him
at the end of the day. And it's not going
to be for a one receiver. But yet he brings
one receiver quality to your offense. So I just I
don't know, I think that's a bad look. I think
letting Hendrickson go is I mean, it just totally changes
the way your team is.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's interesting how he sort of publicly created a line
in the sand so the fan base knows, hey, this
is how this is possible. Let's see if they make
it work, and basically letting him know, we've got to window,
we've got opportunity here, and if this doesn't get done,
you go backwards.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
And he's putting you on notice.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah that this organization is cheap. That team definitely goes
backwards of day. If those guys walk bottom line, well.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
If you look an update on why we will not
be going to the NFL drafting Green Bay?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Sure is that?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay? Just taking a gander here at some of the
hotel options that are available there in Green Bay. The
cheapest hotel option I can find is a Motel six
there in Green Bay for six hundred and eighty dollars,
so that seems to be unlikely. The Motel the Village
in Green Bay for six hundred and ninety nine. And
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then things really start to escalate. We got the Motel
six at Green Bay, Lamba, that's seven twenty a night.
And then there's some airbnbs vr or excuse me vrbo
is for forty five hundred fifty three hundred a night
one night, So there is some price gouging if you will,
going on. They're in green Bay. So kudos to the
NFL for selecting Green Bay to have the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I mean, Motel six and you know where there at?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
You know, I told you I got some some friends
I made last time there, said they give me some
good price on their airbnbs.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Are you guys.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Hey Lee, why don't you do this? Why don't you
reach out to them and see what that good price
would be? And because the link, Yeah, because they're willing
to to you know, for go not getting I don't know,
to three thousand in profit. Uh, they're probably not the
type of people that want to stay at their place
because they're absolute morons. Than if that's if they're gonna
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fore go getting three thousand bucks extra night and giving
you a deal.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Now, not only that, but when we check in, chances
are they're going to pull off when we start, you know,
falling asleep, like wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
A second, would you guys be up? Why is our
space moving?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Would you I'll be honest, and this isn't like judgmental
of Lee. I just don't know that I want to
stay at any place that Lee would recommend. Okay, where
did you guys be up for a little bit of
a commute? You know in the from Wiscon from Milwaukee, No,
from Madison. They've got a graduate Madison. That's a fairly
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long time far of a commute two hours.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Every time I've had to come see I've had to
commute like some crazy ass commute, Like when I came
from Chicago to you know, Columbus because I would have missed.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, but that's because you had flight issues.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I would couldn't fly out.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, well, I mean we could just act like we
got flight issues and just you know, jump on that
that road and have good conversation, have a few laughs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I mean I'm looking at options, you know, Oh you
see what do your road trips?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What you're saying for, I mean, we could turn it
into a road trip. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, Jonas, the more likely thing would be you'd
you'd stay in Milwaukee because even though it's probably equidistant
from uh, you know, like Madison to Green Bay, you
might be able to get a direct flight into Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Both Yah, yeah that too. Yeah, you can't yeah in Milwaukee.
Ist I got Now, I have a plug in Milwaukee
a couple, do you.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, Milwaukee's not bad mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I mean I've never been, but I've just heard from
my buddies out Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So that's not overly credible. Credible if you've never actually
been there.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, But I mean the guy that, unlike Lee, I
think my sources are pretty pretty solid.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I trust yours more than Lee. But in this case,
you've never even been there.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I've never been, but I've heard it several times, and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So negative we're trying to come up with solutions here,
I'd say one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Are you just trying to repeat some d bag on Access?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I were saying, why come on, we're trying to come
up with him.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm just being a realistic and I don't I don't
want to get let down, get let down to.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
All I'm saying is is that there there's some good
looking people there too, is what I'll say. In Milwaukee,
and I do know that for a fact. All Right,
that's all all I say. One of my plugs is
back from from college. They're Milwaukee and nice. They used
to always talk about Milwaukee and this, that and the other.
And Jeffrey Dahmers from Are they the plug or are
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you the plug? No, there's a different plug. But in
that scenario, I mean at one point, LeVar was possibly
what you just said. No, No, I'm never the outlet.
Now pause, noop, always the Plug's what I.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Heard there used to be in No Fear shirt. Sometimes
you're the plug, sometimes you're the outlet.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, let's go to the break that touched that one.
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Speaker 4 (15:54):
More people are about fed up, tired of it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They're hearing a lot of commentary from a former teammate
and they're sick of it all. We will get into
that discussion for you again twenty minutes from now here
on FSR. It's official. We have a new arrival to
the Great City of Columbus. And that arrival is Matt Patricia,
who takes over as defensive coordinator for Ohio State. It
is now officially a done deal there for the Buckeyes.
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So he takes over for Jim Knowles who took off
to go to Penn State. And so the replacement there
is Matt Patricia. And now the conversation turns to what
the hell is that going to?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Look? Like? Yeah? Like that now good for us? So
it is more of.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
The hold on just taking shots already for Yeah, well,
what do you think Matt Patricia's a good defensive Cordninators
won two Super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Okay, who was he? What was he?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
What do you want to do just because he was
with Tom Brady defense to do anything?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I thought their defense was good.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I just, you know, sometimes, because I would, I would
make the argument, who is the star defensive player that
he had?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yet? But what I would say is sometimes even coaches
are benefactors to systems. Matt Patroit is a He's a
system coach. I mean, at least that's how I looked
when he was a head coach. Most of them, defender,
most most coaches that came from New England are not
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good coaches.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They just haven't been good.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I disagree with that. Bill O'Brien won like a bunch
of its most Romeo, I love Romeo.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Romeo wasn't a good head coach.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, so here's the difference is one he's not not.
I know that, I know, but I would never make
the case that those guys aren't good coaches because just
to get your foot in the door and to interview
and then be offered a job by Bill Belichick, you
have to be a good coach, Like, you can't be
a bad coach and then get your foot the door
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in New England or even for Nick Saban if you
want to go to the college level. Like I'm sorry now,
they might not be good head coaches because I think
that that encompasses something completely different. But as far as
running a defense and being able to teach and help
people learn it all that I mean. If you ever
spend any time with pat Patricia, dude, he is as
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sharp as they come. So I don't have any doubts.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I think Detroit was I hope he's a good fit.
Is this all about optics?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because of the way he looked the Laminate with a
pencil behind his ear, which doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Detroit was terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because this because maybe I just have a block against
him because of when that whole thing got messy in
the media with him and and something that people were
talking behind one another's back. So so my recollection of
it is is kind of is kind of foggy or whatever.
But it just kind of I just recall the conversations
about him as a coach during that time. I don't
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know the man. I just I'll just say I gave
maybe a reactionary reaction to it. And I'll take my chances.
We took your we took your guy, and he's he's
a really he did a fine job for Ohio State.
I'll say that we could have been they could have
been a little better in the secondary, but they did
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have some players in the secondary, at least one or two,
at least two.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, I don't know. I'll leave it up. I'll
leave it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'll defer to you on this, but I'm I just
think that's something something that happened during his tenure that
that had everybody up in arms about him, and I
was like, okay, and then next thing you know, he's
losing his job. You know, but you're right, it's a
defensive coordinator job.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I think there's two things that stand out to me
just having had so many New England assistants as head coaches.
The one thing is the way they handle the media.
I understand the what's behind it, Like when you play
for a coach that had coached under Bill Belichick. Their
whole goal is to limit distractions. And how do most
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those distractions come about? The media? Us Like, we're part
of that, right, Someone says something, someone does, something makes
an observation, blah blah blah. That's how these things happen.
And if players, because we're talking you listening to sound bites,
we're talking about what players say. If players say a ton,
then that's typically how it comes about. So they tend
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to be as coaching staffs, extremely guarded and abrasive almost
with how they go about handling those media relationships. And
they also do that with their players. I mean, I
was like, if there's one of the things I think
I would go back if I could, you know, in
starting in college would have been show more personality, especially
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through like my junior senior year when things started rolling
for us and it was coached out of me, it
was like, these guys are the enemies. You don't want
to give them anything. You don't want to you know,
you don't want to give our opponents anything. And that's
how I was trained. So that's how I operated, whether
it was at you know, Notre Dame, where was that Cleveland,
whether it was at in Denver, you know, many of
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the stops that I'd been at where I had a
New England head coach. So that was the first thing.
I think because of that, it doesn't only rub like
the media the wrong way. I don't think it gets
off to a good first step. But also I feel
like for you know, for a former player like you too,
you probably look at it like, man, why these guys
being such a holes? And and you see that. So
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again I understand why they do it. But at the
same time, if you don't have the success like Bill
Belichick has, you can't do it. And then the other
thing is you just got to be yourself. Like as
much as you want to try to build the culture
and system that Bill Belichick built in New England, there
also has to be this element of I can't do
it exactly like that, I need to do it based
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on like who do I have? Like to me, what
always gets overlooked with the best coaches is who do
you have in your roster? Like your system is about
the players, and by the way, that goes to any company,
like for our show, for example, like we well, I'm
just saying we try to build our least. I try
to think of our show as and like, well, how
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can varxcel, how can jonasix sol? How do we build
out things that make sense for people involved?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
How do we get Lee involved in his personal life?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But definite we try to.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
But but the truth is is that's what a great
coach is. A great coach figures out how to put
all those pieces together of the puzzle. And I think
there's too often times that you know, guys who left
New England, who especially were working with Tom Brady Bill Belichick,
they felt like they could do things a certain way.
It's like, well, yeah, you could because you had Tom Brady.
You don't have Tom Brady the next roster, so you've
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got to figure out different ways of building it and
doing it. You know, you talk about Matt Patricia, you
know it took Dan Campbell three years before they end
up being a playoff team and having success. It wasn't
like this happened overnight. People tend to forget. They were
three and third team and one his first year. Then
they went to nine and eight. Then they went to
twelve and five, and that's what they lost in the
conference championship game. But you know, and again so I
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not trying to make the case for Patricia's head coach
in Detroit, but there was a lot of changes too.
You know, they brought in Chris Spielman to the front
office and I think that was one of the best
moves that isn't talked about enough in Detroit to be
quite frank. But back to the initial topic with Patricia,
I think he'll be good for what they need. You know,
these are guys who, you know, the the NFL caliber players.
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They're trying to get to the next level. He's going
to put in a scheme that I think fits all
of that. He's a smart guy. And also he's been
a head coach. So that's the one thing that if
you're looking at you know, Ryan Day and saying, well,
Brian Hartlin's my OC, he doesn't have as much experience
calling plays and being in that position. I'm probably gonna
have to lean more on the offensive side, and so
because of that, I need an experienced defensive mind, a
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guy who's been a head coach before, who I can
delegate or I can trust that he's going to be
able to run that defense and he's gonna be able
to own a part of the team because he's been
a head coach before. He understands the message, he understands
how this is all going to work. So I actually
think it's a really good fit for where Ohio State.
Is that right now?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The fan base, what's their reaction to it? Because you
lose Knowls, you bring in Matt Patricia. Are they on
board with it? Or is it a oh here we
go not sure about this? Like it's now the conversation becomes,
we've taken a step back before the guy he's even
gotten a chance to coach a game there in Columbus.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I mean, I wouldn't really know. I haven't really been out.
This just happened. So I've been kind of my entire
family's been sick. I'm finally getting sick.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
It's like kind of well, I like, here's how I
look at it all. Right, in flu season, as soon
as one of my children get sick, I'm like, all right,
everyone get together in a Powell, let's all get this
so we can get over with it. Because now that
we have seven, it's like, it's like basically seven.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Weeks by a way to everyone out there, not seven
children and seven yeah, seven total.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Unless there's a couple out there I didn't know about.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I mean, and it could have.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, but the point is like, usually let's just say
it's about a week, right, give or take maybe less
mine more depend on the kid. But that's like seven
weeks of just everyone that's something someone in the house
being sick at some point. So anyway I have I've
I've been finally getting what my two year old almost
two year old son had, and our little infant had
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to go to the emergency room the other day. So
it's been quite the week. So I have not been
able to like pull people randomly. But if I go
to Kroger today, I'll make sure to just ask how
they feel.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Kroger, go get you some pop back.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Besides the snark, everything okay with the little one you
mention mentioned the emergency.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, it's a backhand, even though I mean, what do
you mean with the snark. I mean, it just asks
is he okay, Yeah, he's good. You got to go
through a little adversity in life social early on. Dang,
what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I just I like I like the coaches and and
and Columbus. That's all I'm gonna say. If you want
to know a Penn Stater's reaction to who they have
as their coordinators, me, I'm happy about it.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You guys got the same projected wind total. By the way,
I mean exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All the all the Notre Dame is trying to like
poach our guys, so we got you know, there's always
that Well, my understanding is that they didn't poach him.
He had reached out. Okay, yeah, well my understanding you
don't need to get out of that's you brought it up,
and I heard he's not the only one. It's what
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I'm hearing that I could be off, but I might be.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I don't know what other position we have open.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I don't know, but I just heard. I don't know.
I don't know, but I don't. They don't need to
be going to Anne Arbor.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
We already you already took our basketball coach, which I
like our new coach, who were good, but he's done
a great job. Finally we were finally good. Yeah, he
has well, we were finally good and then you come
take them. Now, we got a really really good running
back to coach st Lawn boys.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
You want to take in.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
The state has the softest schedule next year.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's so good. It's such a good schedule. Listen, I
looked at it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Nevada, I Villan Nova. That's your first three games. You
have a bye before you play Oregon. That's right, and
by the way, hosting Organs right, UCLA Northwestern and then
at Kinnick, which that could you could stumble there, a
bye before they have to go to Columbus to play
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Ohio State. And then it's Indiana at home, Michigan State, Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
At home, and then at Rutgers.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, my goodness, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
The Nebraska's Nebraska is a game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But I just feel like at home Ohio State, Ohio
State in Ohio and Nebraska to two Oregon.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You have buys before both. You have buys before both
of your toughest games. I think we're looking pretty good.
That's an easy schedule.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I feel like we're looking pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you know, and and I'll say, like, I feel
confident about Ohio State this year, do you.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I've got questions, Like I just I'm curious to see
where this all goes.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think we're going to be a better team than
what we were this year.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
You should be. You have everyone back. I lose that duel,
but you've got a lot of guys coming back.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Correct. Then there's some guys in the wings. That's all
I'm gonna say, right, some guys of the week. I'm
not just saying, man, man, I was telling you there's
some guys in the wings.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, King Mac came back. You know, people may
not know who King Mac is. You will know who
he is this year. He came back from Alabama. But yeah,
I feel really good about where Penn State is. Turn
of the Mac, Return of the Mac. Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 1 (29:30):
Man, we were using them this morning. I'll tell you
that nasty out there. Be safe out there.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I got my wife.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Were you guys getting dumped on?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Huh yeah, yeah, I almost broke my wife's windshield changing
the windshield wipers.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Because you don't know how to deal with cars, real
cars you gotta deal with you.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Actually, Jonas are like the least handy person for some
that claims to be like a hard had lunch built.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's a why, that's okay.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
What's a lie? What's a lie?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
That's a lie.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I'm honest about my mouthfunkunctions due, aren't you guys? Don't man,
You guys drive new rides like you're not familiar with
this world. My truck's nineteen years old. You don't know
what that world's like because just.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Because your truck is old, you're trying to get away
from the fact that you're not handy at all.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey, you think your lunch pale and hard hat's gonna
fit in that tesla you drive?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
No chance to drive a tesla anymore? Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm about for like six years. I'm going to panic
and get one. If we got to stay on this
time slot, I'm going to panic and get one.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
So it drives me, drives itself.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
By the way, that's actually smart. I will never do ever.
Why that's weird. There's no one out there. All right,
you guys don't hear what I want to have that
out there?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
What did you do?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I used to This is so bad. I used to
tie an ankle weight. Yeah, just steering wheel because you
have to give it pressure otherwise, like it'll it'll like
check you to make sure you're paying attention, and so
I pay attention. But like I think it messed up
to steering a little bit. But uh, I would usually
on long trips, I think like the Tampa Bay Super
(31:00):
I drove over with like an ankle weight on it.
I only had to touch the student string with like
two or three times. It was nice, pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's highly All I know is I was out eating
with my my my peeps one kids, I mentored and
we were leaving and it was really cold out where
we were at. We were in Stanford, right, it was
really cold, and and he was like, yeah, just you know,
just way here, da da da this that and the other.
And one minute later his car comes pulling up, like
(31:31):
I was. I was like, I don't understand this, Like
what world? What type of world do we live? In
your car? Not only did he park his car like
his car parked like he parked the car parked itself,
and I mean it was a tight space, parked itself perfectly.
Then when he needed the car for us to leave,
he called the car like there's no need for valet,
(31:53):
no more, just call your car, no thanks.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's just weird.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
By the way, you still didn't address the fact, man, Jonas.
You still don't address the fact you're not handy. You
just drive an old truck. That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, you use like you use prophylactics to like fix
things under the hood, Like that's you still live in
that world.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
We're talking about. Huh. I don't wear gloves. I get
my hands dirty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, I'm talking you guys have housekeepers like like you
know nothing about the everyday life.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Okay, a woman to really open up this can of worms.
You said that you have in laws who are willing
to do it for you, the same people.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
It's not it's not LaVar's fault. It has me the
same people at his house.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You can't have you can't have people on payroll, all right,
you don't have fl Like listen, if you if you want,
you know, hookups with the packers, like who.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Do you go a j hawk? That that's an in law.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So if I want hookups on you know, somebody to
help out around the house, I'm not going to be
judged for that. Completely different. Where's the button for that?
By the way, Lareta, forget your lawn too. In your gardening,
we ain't got one, Yes you do. Oh you ain't
got a garden. You got a gardener. That's that's out
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of control. That's really out of control.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I have nothing to do with that, that's all. Jonahs,
don't put that up after me. She's listening to Happy Valentine's,
Happy Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
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Speaker 1 (33:26):
You think Lee's if she's listening is Lee? You want
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Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, she's on the parking structure with it.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Would you like to send your guys shout out?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
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Speaker 4 (33:43):
You want to give a shout out?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Nope, Speaking of shout outs, somebody gave a shout out
to their X. Not the nicest way to do it, though,
and it didn't land well with a lot of people
who used to be there. We'll hear that and get
into that for you next year on FSR.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
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former team, the Carolina Panthers on The Travis Hunter Show
and had this to say about his former team.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
When I was the first pick, I went into a
locker room of losers. How did you end the pressure
of being the top pick. Let's put it in perspective.
You're the top pick.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Because what no, no, no, no, that you're looking at it
from a personal situation. I'm talking about from the professional situation.
You're the top pick because that was the worst team
in the NFL the year before. For me, I wanted
to be the number one pick. You could potentially be.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
The first pick, but bro, you have no way of
impacting the game like a quarterback doesk. You can lock
down the number one receiver, you can make impact players
on offense all you want, but it's still not like
a quarterback. My issue is when I was the first pick,
I went into a locker room of losers.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Guys didn't know how to win, guys didn't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
It's just money.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
They're just players, tue.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
That was from cam Newton. Now Steve Smith was the
first to speak out on it. He was not happy
about cam Newton's comments. UH Captain Munterlin, who was a
former cornerback for the Carolina Panthers, said the following. For
him to say that we were losers was a slap
in the face. This was a team who was two
years removed from playing in the NFC Divisional Round against
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the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
We lost a couple of pieces.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
We had checked down Jimmy Classon at quarterback, and we
had a bad year. For him to say losers was crazy.
I don't know why Jimmy Clawson caught astray there, but.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
He went very good in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Okay, well like well, wasn't he wasn't he a rookie
that year though, I think so. He wasn't around long,
was he.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
But it's like, no, but I'm saying I think that
was his rookie year.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
They're upset because Cam Newton was critical of them, just
you know, doesn't sit well with me.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Because Jimmy, I mean Jimmy Smith, Steve Smith is not
one to take moments like these and not take full
advantage of how he would whoop his ass.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Basically, right, he wasn't that confrontation with him. Okay, So
here's some truth. Is he right in what he's saying? Yeah,
there's there's players that at that level are not gonna
be able to excel the way other players are. Right,
Like Cam was a very unique talent. He went to Florida,
They're successful during his time there before he got kicked out.
He went to a Juco, played all right there well
enough to go to Auburn, went to national championship, the Heisman,
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has a phenomenal season, So all he knew at that
point in time was winning. And so he goes to Carolina,
a team that, as captain Munloan pointed out, was two
years removed from the Divisional round. They struggled with a
rookie quarterback. I believe in Jimmy Clawson. It wasn't like
Cam Newton let the world on fire in his rookie year.
They struggled to make the playoffs till his third year.
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Like people tend to forget, like it's a revisionist history.
They went from being in the number one overall team
to being six and ten the next year. So I look,
there's there's truth he says. But at the same time,
you listen to it and you just go, why is
it needed to be said? Like like some of these things, man, Like,
I just I don't understand why some of these guys
make comments like this, especially to teammates and guys who
you like, Bled Sweat, worked with, did everything with.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's it's to get that he's in the media. I mean,
he is like really circulating. So I guess you just
keep those polarizing stories going
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By the way, somebody did somebody did an offer up
on social media to have h Lee come to Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Again and shot on some beers and catch them.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't know why it's an impossible thought that we
could go to Green Bay. It's not for the draft.
I mean it feels like that's a doable, doable thing.
You know, maybe we get we get to work on that, Lee.
I mean, Lee, you're the Packers fan. You start hitting
up the powers that be?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, Lee, does anyone uh you know, and and any
one of the executives side listen to you?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Sure? Yeah, absolutely do they? Yeah? Absolutely, only when he's
snitching and tell him what to do.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
If you say to him, hey, we'd love to go
to the draft, are they like, oh okay, Lee, Or
are they like, oh, we thanks for bringing that to
our attention.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
They will say thanks for bringing that to our attention.
We'll look into it. We'll see, uh if we could
get a game plan together.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And then they give you.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
All that you're Tommy Bahama short. Just keep moving on
through life, You just keep walking.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, I mean that is what I do. But uh, yeah,
circle back, We'll circle back.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Who's your go to for stuff like that? Lee?
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Whoever we need to talk to.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
But I mean that first would be Scott.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, our Lord and Savior. Here's the selling point, all right.
So the draft is in Green Bay. We are on
in Green Bay. So we have an affiliate out there,
the great Steve Zabe and Zabe who Lebar was on
with last week at the super Bowl. He does a
show out there statewide. Mike Keller, great dude, worked with
him many times before. Also, there's a thought Abdul Carter
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could be going number one overall to Tennessee and Cleveland,
Rady's former stomping grounds. Cleveland is going number two. Travis Hunter,
the bar played for the Giants. They're picking third. I
mean it's like there's there's a real selling point here.
He's a packer saying, Lee, do you think you could
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sell Thisslie?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh yeah, definitely. As long as you guys are on board,
then I'll uh go go for it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I'm in, We're in, We're all ind is it?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Maybe one day I'll be in.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Plus, I made lots of friends out there who will
offer great airbnbs.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
If we need if we can't find hotels, because I
know they.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Will fill anything. Looks great to you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm not trusting Lee's Airbnb plugs.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No way Lee staying in a motel that comes with
a hard key and the plastic room number attached to it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They tell you know it's good. No way cockroaches tang.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, well, Nicodemus he lives there, man, Nicodemus followers. I'm
just telling you you don't want to mess with Nicodemus
and the followers.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Brother, They'll get you. It's a bad idea. No. Speaking
of the draft, I'm serious, rats, bro.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And speaking of uh, the draft coming up, the Cincinnati
Bengals are picking at seventeen, so they'll be, uh, they'll
be trying to build around that roster. You've got, you know,
more conversation about somebody else who would like to uh
maybe venture out and uh and try to go elsewhere.
One of their best defenders, most consistent defenders over the
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past several years, Jermaine Pratt.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Uh, he is looking for a trade. That's their best defender.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, he's one of their better, more consistent defenders. I
wouldn't say, but he's been really solid for them over
the past several years.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
He's looking for a trade.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
If he can't get a deal done, I've believe he's
in the final year of a three year contract, so
so par for the course with the Bengals, another player
looking to get a deal and demanding a trade if
you can't get it done, at least publicly. Joe Burrow
was actually talking about the Cincinnati Bengals cap situation with
Pardon my take, and had this to say.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
You could convert some of the money to a signing bonus,
will lower the cap hit. You can push some of
the money to the back end of the contract that
lowers the cap, and then when you get to the
back end of the contract you can restructure it and
convert it to a signing bonus. You understand the cap,
I mean not really kind of because we.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Don't think that it exists way more than we do.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Well, definitely, some teams seem to make it feel that way.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, I have just pretended it doesn't exist for.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
A while, and the Eagles are paying everybody. Yeah yeah,
so it seems like the way whatever they're doing bang bang, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
As you kind of pointed out, that's the couple different
ways you go about doing it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He's what he's not pointing out is when you do
extend it out So let's say, like, for example, you'll
hear me talk about the avoidable years on the end
of a contract. Those still count against your cap. You're
just spreading it out far enough because because even a
signing bonus it counts against your cap the differences you
spread out that signing bonus over the remainder of years
of the contract. So you know, just to make math easy,
(06:23):
if you had a twenty million dollars signing bonus, you
had four years left, right, that's five million per year
as opposed to if you're going to pay him twenty
million in base salary. Does that make sense? So that's
that's in essence, how you go about, you know, making
or creating space within the cap. But as as Burrow's
kind of pointing out, those are essentially the two ways
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of doing it. The hard thing is that teams don't
necessarily always want to do it because they don't want
to have to have a guy who's not on their
roster count against their cap. Now it's becoming more of
the in vogue thing to do, and that's why you
see Philadelphia do it, you see the Saints do it,
and they'll they'll come up with other ways of getting
around it at that point. But that's in essence what
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a lot of teams are doing now that are having success.
And the problem is, and Burrough should I mean, and look,
it's a good situation for Burrow when you're a franchise quarterback,
when you've gotten that second big contract. I always keep saying,
you're you're the mortgage company. You're who the team comes
back to to refinance to create cap space, because there's
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no concerns about you as you know, as a player,
if you're in question, like they know you're their guy.
So whatever you're slated to make in base sally that
stated within the contract, they can always come back. You
convert some that in signing bonus and spread it out,
come back the next year, do it again, do it again,
do it again. And so they have to be willing
to do one of two things though. They have to
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have the cash and be willing to pay out the
cash in order to do that, and they have to
be willing to spend like that's the other portion of this.
You know, they can do different things to create you know,
cap space for Joe Burrow, but they're actually willing to
spend that money on players instead of put in their pockets.
So there's there's all sorts of different questions around to
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me how the Bengals are gonna handle this offseason with
some of their star players. But if it's anything like
we've seen in the past, they're gonna lose a guy
or two, Like they're probably gonna lose Trey hendricks Trey Hendrickson,
They'll probably lose t Higgins.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So if that happens, it's a rap. I'm sorry, it's
a rap. You can forget about it. If they lose Hendrickson,
that's it totally changes the way their defense, how it goes.
He is the catalyst of their defense. T Higgins is
a big hit too. I mean, you saw it when
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he was injured that they are different offense with him out.
They're much better defense when they have him in. I
mean off excuse me, there is much better offense when
they have Higgins. I just I think that's a brutal hit.
If I'm the Cincinnati Bengals, why do you allow that
to happen? Why do you allow I mean, if you can't,
if you cannot, you know, protect against it. I get it,
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But like like we're talking about it, you can ultimately
figure out a way to keep your best players you can,
and that's the bottom line. I mean, is t Higgins
going to go on the open market and get what
Jamar Chase will get? No, he's not, so figure it
out because somebody's going to pay him the same type
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of dollar that you would have had to pay him
at the end of the day. And it's not going
to be for a one receiver. But yet he brings
one receiver quality to your offense. So I just I
don't know, I think that's a bad look. I think
letting Hendrickson go is I mean, it just totally changes
the way your team is.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's interesting how he sort of publicly created a line
in the sand so the fan base knows, hey, this
is how this is possible. Let's see if they make
it work, and basically letting him know, we've got to window,
we've got opportunity here, and if this doesn't get done,
you go backwards.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
And he's putting you on notice.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah that this organization is cheap. That team definitely goes
backwards of day. If those guys walk bottom line, well.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
If you look an update on why we will not
be going to the NFL drafting Green Bay?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Sure is that?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay? Just taking a gander here at some of the
hotel options that are available there in Green Bay. The
cheapest hotel option I can find is a Motel six
there in Green Bay for six hundred and eighty dollars,
so that seems to be unlikely. The Motel the Village
in Green Bay for six hundred and ninety nine. And
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then things really start to escalate. We got the Motel
six at Green Bay, Lamba, that's seven twenty a night.
And then there's some airbnbs vr or excuse me vrbo
is for forty five hundred fifty three hundred a night
one night, So there is some price gouging if you will,
going on. They're in green Bay. So kudos to the
NFL for selecting Green Bay to have the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I mean, Motel six and you know where there at?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
You know, I told you I got some some friends
I made last time there, said they give me some
good price on their airbnbs.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Are you guys.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Hey Lee, why don't you do this? Why don't you
reach out to them and see what that good price
would be? And because the link, Yeah, because they're willing
to to you know, for go not getting I don't know,
to three thousand in profit. Uh, they're probably not the
type of people that want to stay at their place
because they're absolute morons. Than if that's if they're gonna
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fore go getting three thousand bucks extra night and giving
you a deal.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Now, not only that, but when we check in, chances
are they're going to pull off when we start, you know,
falling asleep, like wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
A second, would you guys be up? Why is our
space moving?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Would you I'll be honest, and this isn't like judgmental
of Lee. I just don't know that I want to
stay at any place that Lee would recommend. Okay, where
did you guys be up for a little bit of
a commute? You know in the from Wiscon from Milwaukee, No,
from Madison. They've got a graduate Madison. That's a fairly
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long time far of a commute two hours.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Every time I've had to come see I've had to
commute like some crazy ass commute, Like when I came
from Chicago to you know, Columbus because I would have missed.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, but that's because you had flight issues.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I would couldn't fly out.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, well, I mean we could just act like we
got flight issues and just you know, jump on that
that road and have good conversation, have a few laughs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I mean I'm looking at options, you know, Oh you
see what do your road trips?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What you're saying for, I mean, we could turn it
into a road trip. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, Jonas, the more likely thing would be you'd
you'd stay in Milwaukee because even though it's probably equidistant
from uh, you know, like Madison to Green Bay, you
might be able to get a direct flight into Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Both Yah, yeah that too. Yeah, you can't yeah in Milwaukee.
Ist I got Now, I have a plug in Milwaukee
a couple, do you.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, Milwaukee's not bad mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I mean I've never been, but I've just heard from
my buddies out Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So that's not overly credible. Credible if you've never actually
been there.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, But I mean the guy that, unlike Lee, I
think my sources are pretty pretty solid.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I trust yours more than Lee. But in this case,
you've never even been there.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I've never been, but I've heard it several times, and.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So negative we're trying to come up with solutions here,
I'd say one of them.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Are you just trying to repeat some d bag on Access?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I were saying, why come on, we're trying to come
up with him.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm just being a realistic and I don't I don't
want to get let down, get let down to.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
All I'm saying is is that there there's some good
looking people there too, is what I'll say. In Milwaukee,
and I do know that for a fact. All Right,
that's all all I say. One of my plugs is
back from from college. They're Milwaukee and nice. They used
to always talk about Milwaukee and this, that and the other.
And Jeffrey Dahmers from Are they the plug or are
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you the plug? No, there's a different plug. But in
that scenario, I mean at one point, LeVar was possibly
what you just said. No, No, I'm never the outlet.
Now pause, noop, always the Plug's what I.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Heard there used to be in No Fear shirt. Sometimes
you're the plug, sometimes you're the outlet.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, let's go to the break that touched that one.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
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Speaker 4 (15:54):
More people are about fed up, tired of it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They're hearing a lot of commentary from a former teammate
and they're sick of it all. We will get into
that discussion for you again twenty minutes from now here
on FSR. It's official. We have a new arrival to
the Great City of Columbus. And that arrival is Matt Patricia,
who takes over as defensive coordinator for Ohio State. It
is now officially a done deal there for the Buckeyes.
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So he takes over for Jim Knowles who took off
to go to Penn State. And so the replacement there
is Matt Patricia. And now the conversation turns to what
the hell is that going to?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Look? Like? Yeah? Like that now good for us? So
it is more of.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
The hold on just taking shots already for Yeah, well,
what do you think Matt Patricia's a good defensive Cordninators
won two Super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Okay, who was he? What was he?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
What do you want to do just because he was
with Tom Brady defense to do anything?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I thought their defense was good.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I just, you know, sometimes, because I would, I would
make the argument, who is the star defensive player that
he had?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yet? But what I would say is sometimes even coaches
are benefactors to systems. Matt Patroit is a He's a
system coach. I mean, at least that's how I looked
when he was a head coach. Most of them, defender,
most most coaches that came from New England are not
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good coaches.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
They just haven't been good.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I disagree with that. Bill O'Brien won like a bunch
of its most Romeo, I love Romeo.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Romeo wasn't a good head coach.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, so here's the difference is one he's not not.
I know that, I know, but I would never make
the case that those guys aren't good coaches because just
to get your foot in the door and to interview
and then be offered a job by Bill Belichick, you
have to be a good coach, Like, you can't be
a bad coach and then get your foot the door
(18:00):
in New England or even for Nick Saban if you
want to go to the college level. Like I'm sorry now,
they might not be good head coaches because I think
that that encompasses something completely different. But as far as
running a defense and being able to teach and help
people learn it all that I mean. If you ever
spend any time with pat Patricia, dude, he is as
(18:20):
sharp as they come. So I don't have any doubts.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I think Detroit was I hope he's a good fit.
Is this all about optics?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because of the way he looked the Laminate with a
pencil behind his ear, which doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Detroit was terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because this because maybe I just have a block against
him because of when that whole thing got messy in
the media with him and and something that people were
talking behind one another's back. So so my recollection of
it is is kind of is kind of foggy or whatever.
But it just kind of I just recall the conversations
about him as a coach during that time. I don't
(19:00):
know the man. I just I'll just say I gave
maybe a reactionary reaction to it. And I'll take my chances.
We took your we took your guy, and he's he's
a really he did a fine job for Ohio State.
I'll say that we could have been they could have
been a little better in the secondary, but they did
(19:22):
have some players in the secondary, at least one or two,
at least two.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, I don't know. I'll leave it up. I'll
leave it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'll defer to you on this, but I'm I just
think that's something something that happened during his tenure that
that had everybody up in arms about him, and I
was like, okay, and then next thing you know, he's
losing his job. You know, but you're right, it's a
defensive coordinator job.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I think there's two things that stand out to me
just having had so many New England assistants as head coaches.
The one thing is the way they handle the media.
I understand the what's behind it, Like when you play
for a coach that had coached under Bill Belichick. Their
whole goal is to limit distractions. And how do most
(20:07):
those distractions come about? The media? Us Like, we're part
of that, right, Someone says something, someone does, something makes
an observation, blah blah blah. That's how these things happen.
And if players, because we're talking you listening to sound bites,
we're talking about what players say. If players say a ton,
then that's typically how it comes about. So they tend
(20:28):
to be as coaching staffs, extremely guarded and abrasive almost
with how they go about handling those media relationships. And
they also do that with their players. I mean, I
was like, if there's one of the things I think
I would go back if I could, you know, in
starting in college would have been show more personality, especially
(20:49):
through like my junior senior year when things started rolling
for us and it was coached out of me, it
was like, these guys are the enemies. You don't want
to give them anything. You don't want to you know,
you don't want to give our opponents anything. And that's
how I was trained. So that's how I operated, whether
it was at you know, Notre Dame, where was that Cleveland,
whether it was at in Denver, you know, many of
(21:10):
the stops that I'd been at where I had a
New England head coach. So that was the first thing.
I think because of that, it doesn't only rub like
the media the wrong way. I don't think it gets
off to a good first step. But also I feel
like for you know, for a former player like you too,
you probably look at it like, man, why these guys
being such a holes? And and you see that. So
(21:33):
again I understand why they do it. But at the
same time, if you don't have the success like Bill
Belichick has, you can't do it. And then the other
thing is you just got to be yourself. Like as
much as you want to try to build the culture
and system that Bill Belichick built in New England, there
also has to be this element of I can't do
it exactly like that, I need to do it based
(21:53):
on like who do I have? Like to me, what
always gets overlooked with the best coaches is who do
you have in your roster? Like your system is about
the players, and by the way, that goes to any company,
like for our show, for example, like we well, I'm
just saying we try to build our least. I try
to think of our show as and like, well, how
(22:13):
can varxcel, how can jonasix sol? How do we build
out things that make sense for people involved?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
How do we get Lee involved in his personal life?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But definite we try to.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
But but the truth is is that's what a great
coach is. A great coach figures out how to put
all those pieces together of the puzzle. And I think
there's too often times that you know, guys who left
New England, who especially were working with Tom Brady Bill Belichick,
they felt like they could do things a certain way.
It's like, well, yeah, you could because you had Tom Brady.
You don't have Tom Brady the next roster, so you've
(22:46):
got to figure out different ways of building it and
doing it. You know, you talk about Matt Patricia, you
know it took Dan Campbell three years before they end
up being a playoff team and having success. It wasn't
like this happened overnight. People tend to forget. They were
three and third team and one his first year. Then
they went to nine and eight. Then they went to
twelve and five, and that's what they lost in the
conference championship game. But you know, and again so I
(23:08):
not trying to make the case for Patricia's head coach
in Detroit, but there was a lot of changes too.
You know, they brought in Chris Spielman to the front
office and I think that was one of the best
moves that isn't talked about enough in Detroit to be
quite frank. But back to the initial topic with Patricia,
I think he'll be good for what they need. You know,
these are guys who, you know, the the NFL caliber players.
(23:30):
They're trying to get to the next level. He's going
to put in a scheme that I think fits all
of that. He's a smart guy. And also he's been
a head coach. So that's the one thing that if
you're looking at you know, Ryan Day and saying, well,
Brian Hartlin's my OC, he doesn't have as much experience
calling plays and being in that position. I'm probably gonna
have to lean more on the offensive side, and so
because of that, I need an experienced defensive mind, a
(23:52):
guy who's been a head coach before, who I can
delegate or I can trust that he's going to be
able to run that defense and he's gonna be able
to own a part of the team because he's been
a head coach before. He understands the message, he understands
how this is all going to work. So I actually
think it's a really good fit for where Ohio State.
Is that right now?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The fan base, what's their reaction to it? Because you
lose Knowls, you bring in Matt Patricia. Are they on
board with it? Or is it a oh here we
go not sure about this? Like it's now the conversation becomes,
we've taken a step back before the guy he's even
gotten a chance to coach a game there in Columbus.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I mean, I wouldn't really know. I haven't really been out.
This just happened. So I've been kind of my entire
family's been sick. I'm finally getting sick.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
It's like kind of well, I like, here's how I
look at it all. Right, in flu season, as soon
as one of my children get sick, I'm like, all right,
everyone get together in a Powell, let's all get this
so we can get over with it. Because now that
we have seven, it's like, it's like basically seven.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Weeks by a way to everyone out there, not seven
children and seven yeah, seven total.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Unless there's a couple out there I didn't know about.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I mean, and it could have.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, but the point is like, usually let's just say
it's about a week, right, give or take maybe less
mine more depend on the kid. But that's like seven
weeks of just everyone that's something someone in the house
being sick at some point. So anyway I have I've
I've been finally getting what my two year old almost
two year old son had, and our little infant had
(25:25):
to go to the emergency room the other day. So
it's been quite the week. So I have not been
able to like pull people randomly. But if I go
to Kroger today, I'll make sure to just ask how
they feel.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Kroger, go get you some pop back.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Besides the snark, everything okay with the little one you
mention mentioned the emergency.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, it's a backhand, even though I mean, what do
you mean with the snark. I mean, it just asks
is he okay, Yeah, he's good. You got to go
through a little adversity in life social early on. Dang,
what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I just I like I like the coaches and and
and Columbus. That's all I'm gonna say. If you want
to know a Penn Stater's reaction to who they have
as their coordinators, me, I'm happy about it.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You guys got the same projected wind total. By the way,
I mean exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All the all the Notre Dame is trying to like
poach our guys, so we got you know, there's always
that Well, my understanding is that they didn't poach him.
He had reached out. Okay, yeah, well my understanding you
don't need to get out of that's you brought it up,
and I heard he's not the only one. It's what
(26:38):
I'm hearing that I could be off, but I might be.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I don't know what other position we have open.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I don't know, but I just heard. I don't know.
I don't know, but I don't. They don't need to
be going to Anne Arbor.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
We already you already took our basketball coach, which I
like our new coach, who were good, but he's done
a great job. Finally we were finally good. Yeah, he
has well, we were finally good and then you come
take them. Now, we got a really really good running
back to coach st Lawn boys.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
You want to take in.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
The state has the softest schedule next year.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's so good. It's such a good schedule. Listen, I
looked at it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Nevada, I Villan Nova. That's your first three games. You
have a bye before you play Oregon. That's right, and
by the way, hosting Organs right, UCLA Northwestern and then
at Kinnick, which that could you could stumble there, a
bye before they have to go to Columbus to play
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Ohio State. And then it's Indiana at home, Michigan State, Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
At home, and then at Rutgers.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, my goodness, that's.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
The Nebraska's Nebraska is a game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But I just feel like at home Ohio State, Ohio
State in Ohio and Nebraska to two Oregon.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You have buys before both. You have buys before both
of your toughest games. I think we're looking pretty good.
That's an easy schedule.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I feel like we're looking pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you know, and and I'll say, like, I feel
confident about Ohio State this year, do you.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I've got questions, Like I just I'm curious to see
where this all goes.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think we're going to be a better team than
what we were this year.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
You should be. You have everyone back. I lose that duel,
but you've got a lot of guys coming back.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Correct. Then there's some guys in the wings. That's all
I'm gonna say, right, some guys of the week. I'm
not just saying, man, man, I was telling you there's
some guys in the wings.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, King Mac came back. You know, people may
not know who King Mac is. You will know who
he is this year. He came back from Alabama. But yeah,
I feel really good about where Penn State is. Turn
of the Mac, Return of the Mac. Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 1 (29:30):
Man, we were using them this morning. I'll tell you
that nasty out there. Be safe out there.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I got my wife.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Were you guys getting dumped on?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Huh yeah, yeah, I almost broke my wife's windshield changing
the windshield wipers.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Because you don't know how to deal with cars, real
cars you gotta deal with you.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Actually, Jonas are like the least handy person for some
that claims to be like a hard had lunch built.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
That's a why, that's okay.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
What's a lie? What's a lie?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
That's a lie.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I'm honest about my mouthfunkunctions due, aren't you guys? Don't man,
You guys drive new rides like you're not familiar with
this world. My truck's nineteen years old. You don't know
what that world's like because just.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Because your truck is old, you're trying to get away
from the fact that you're not handy at all.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey, you think your lunch pale and hard hat's gonna
fit in that tesla you drive?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
No chance to drive a tesla anymore? Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm about for like six years. I'm going to panic
and get one. If we got to stay on this
time slot, I'm going to panic and get one.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
So it drives me, drives itself.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
By the way, that's actually smart. I will never do ever.
Why that's weird. There's no one out there. All right,
you guys don't hear what I want to have that
out there?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
What did you do?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I used to This is so bad. I used to
tie an ankle weight. Yeah, just steering wheel because you
have to give it pressure otherwise, like it'll it'll like
check you to make sure you're paying attention, and so
I pay attention. But like I think it messed up
to steering a little bit. But uh, I would usually
on long trips, I think like the Tampa Bay Super
(31:00):
I drove over with like an ankle weight on it.
I only had to touch the student string with like
two or three times. It was nice, pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's highly All I know is I was out eating
with my my my peeps one kids, I mentored and
we were leaving and it was really cold out where
we were at. We were in Stanford, right, it was
really cold, and and he was like, yeah, just you know,
just way here, da da da this that and the other.
And one minute later his car comes pulling up, like
(31:31):
I was. I was like, I don't understand this, Like
what world? What type of world do we live? In
your car? Not only did he park his car like
his car parked like he parked the car parked itself,
and I mean it was a tight space, parked itself perfectly.
Then when he needed the car for us to leave,
he called the car like there's no need for valet,
(31:53):
no more, just call your car, no thanks.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's just weird.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
By the way, you still didn't address the fact, man, Jonas.
You still don't address the fact you're not handy. You
just drive an old truck. That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, you use like you use prophylactics to like fix
things under the hood, Like that's you still live in
that world.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
We're talking about. Huh. I don't wear gloves. I get
my hands dirty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, I'm talking you guys have housekeepers like like you
know nothing about the everyday life.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Okay, a woman to really open up this can of worms.
You said that you have in laws who are willing
to do it for you, the same people.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
It's not it's not LaVar's fault. It has me the
same people at his house.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You can't have you can't have people on payroll, all right,
you don't have fl Like listen, if you if you want,
you know, hookups with the packers, like who.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Do you go a j hawk? That that's an in law.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So if I want hookups on you know, somebody to
help out around the house, I'm not going to be
judged for that. Completely different. Where's the button for that?
By the way, Lareta, forget your lawn too. In your gardening,
we ain't got one, Yes you do. Oh you ain't
got a garden. You got a gardener. That's that's out
(33:12):
of control. That's really out of control.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I have nothing to do with that, that's all. Jonahs,
don't put that up after me. She's listening to Happy Valentine's,
Happy Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas and Oxley.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You think Lee's if she's listening is Lee? You want
send a shout out? If she's listening, got got We're late, but.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, she's on the parking structure with it.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Would you like to send your guys shout out?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You want?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
You want to give a shout out?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Nope, Speaking of shout outs, somebody gave a shout out
to their X. Not the nicest way to do it, though,
and it didn't land well with a lot of people
who used to be there. We'll hear that and get
into that for you next year on FSR.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
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Speaker 3 (34:14):
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(34:36):
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videos on YouTube. Cam Newton made some comments about his
(34:57):
former team, the Carolina Panthers on The Travis Hunter Show
and had this to say about his former team.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
When I was the first pick, I went into a
locker room of losers. How did you end the pressure
of being the top pick. Let's put it in perspective.
You're the top pick.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Because what no, no, no, no, that you're looking at it
from a personal situation. I'm talking about from the professional situation.
You're the top pick because that was the worst team
in the NFL the year before. For me, I wanted
to be the number one pick. You could potentially be.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
The first pick, but bro, you have no way of
impacting the game like a quarterback doesk. You can lock
down the number one receiver, you can make impact players
on offense all you want, but it's still not like
a quarterback. My issue is when I was the first pick,
I went into a locker room of losers.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Guys didn't know how to win, guys didn't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
It's just money.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
They're just players, tue.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
That was from cam Newton. Now Steve Smith was the
first to speak out on it. He was not happy
about cam Newton's comments. UH Captain Munterlin, who was a
former cornerback for the Carolina Panthers, said the following. For
him to say that we were losers was a slap
in the face. This was a team who was two
years removed from playing in the NFC Divisional Round against
(36:16):
the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
We lost a couple of pieces.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
We had checked down Jimmy Classon at quarterback, and we
had a bad year. For him to say losers was crazy.
I don't know why Jimmy Clawson caught astray there, but.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
He went very good in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Okay, well like well, wasn't he wasn't he a rookie
that year though, I think so. He wasn't around long,
was he.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
But it's like, no, but I'm saying I think that
was his rookie year.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
They're upset because Cam Newton was critical of them, just
you know, doesn't sit well with me.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Because Jimmy, I mean Jimmy Smith, Steve Smith is not
one to take moments like these and not take full
advantage of how he would whoop his ass.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Basically, right, he wasn't that confrontation with him. Okay, So
here's some truth. Is he right in what he's saying? Yeah,
there's there's players that at that level are not gonna
be able to excel the way other players are. Right,
Like Cam was a very unique talent. He went to Florida,
They're successful during his time there before he got kicked out.
He went to a Juco, played all right there well
enough to go to Auburn, went to national championship, the Heisman,
(37:30):
has a phenomenal season, So all he knew at that
point in time was winning. And so he goes to Carolina,
a team that, as captain Munloan pointed out, was two
years removed from the Divisional round. They struggled with a
rookie quarterback. I believe in Jimmy Clawson. It wasn't like
Cam Newton let the world on fire in his rookie year.
They struggled to make the playoffs till his third year.
(37:51):
Like people tend to forget, like it's a revisionist history.
They went from being in the number one overall team
to being six and ten the next year. So I look,
there's there's truth he says. But at the same time,
you listen to it and you just go, why is
it needed to be said? Like like some of these things, man, Like,
I just I don't understand why some of these guys
make comments like this, especially to teammates and guys who
you like, Bled Sweat, worked with, did everything with.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's it's to get that he's in the media. I mean,
he is like really circulating. So I guess you just
keep those polarizing stories going
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