June 24, 2025 • 41 mins
LaVar debut’s the ROAR+ app, a place for Penn State student-athletes and fans everywhere. The Commanders will bring back elements of the Redskins jerseys. Flag Football pretends NFL talent won’t translate. Plus, ‘Would You Rather…?’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, hey, I tell all my dracks.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Break it up, back it up, bring it down, back
it up.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Back it up, mess it up, break it up.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Break it up? Lorena, you approve of this? I love
a song. When's the good part?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
M hmmm, she said, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Hey, By the way, is this already?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Is this the second tribute to stripper song that you've
had as your intro?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, it's early, so I just figured I play some
more upbeat up tempo music.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean, they're probably getting out of work right now.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It might still be going. Damn. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It turns out to all of those hard working uh,
human beings out there, by the way, that may still
be putting in that time, putting in that working in
between breaks, they're listening to two pros and a cup
of Joe, like, appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Black and Drag got you back.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Damn right it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They are. That's a bar. Black and Drag got you back.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But did I ever tell you the story speaking of
strippers when I was a bust, When I was a
busboy at TGI Fridays, they don't have strippers in there,
they don't, but they when you got tips, it was cash.
And so I took cash in to the bank to,
you know, try and put it in my account. But
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it was a lot of ones, because the bartenders when
they would pay tip you out of the servers, they'd
give you all the ones, they'd keep all the big bills.
And so I walked in there with this just giant
stack of ones that I'd been collecting with my tips,
and the lady working at the bank got my number,
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called my house after the bank and asked if I
was a stripper, because apparently those were the only people
that would ever bring cash in. And so for you
exotic dancers out there, I know your pain. I know
what it's like to be judged. I know what it's
like to get the weird looks. I got you walking
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in with sweaty one dollar bills to a bank to
try and cash it all in. And I don't know
in this day and age where you can just tap
a card or use your phone, I don't know if
that's possible at a strip club. But if you're still
paying cash, just know you are not alone in that
troubled world.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Just let them know. I wonder if somebody's created like
bar code stickers for strippers, or like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Little stickers on their ends, right on their.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Sper Has a stripper gotten a bar code tattooed on
them that takes you right to their their cash app
or their venmo?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, it's likely a brilliant idea, that is a Yeah,
that's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So if you are one of those hard working, hustling
exotic dancers out there, coded, you know, make it easy
for everybody, you know, in this day and age where
it seems like cash flow is at a minimum.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox with you,
We are going to take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern time six o'clock Pacific. LeVar takes
center stage. Please roar plus the listen. Uh, this is
big for you. And did it just launch yesterday? Is
this the Uh, it's a soft launch, it hasn't gone live.
(04:29):
It's an app that will go live and.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's basically, uh, it's yeah, it's for student athletes. It's
it's run by the student athletes. There there will be
people like myself that are contributing content. I'll do Quite
Franklin with Coach Franklin again for the third year. I'm
doing a show also called We Are with LeVar. Basically,
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you know where the nil is now? You know, there's
so many people out here just you know, begging for
money and taking you know, the NIL era as as
an opportunity to just openly beg the fan for money.
But one thing that people don't understand Jonas sometimes the
people that are asking for more and more money and
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always asking for money, is is that our fans, you know,
they spend a lot of money. They invest in so
many different things that are connected to the sports community,
whether it be tickets. If you have tickets then that
means you got to pay for gas. That means you
got to try to figure out if you're going to
stay there overnight or if you're going to drive back
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to where you're going. You know, what are you going
to eat for food? If you're taking a kid, they're
going to want a T shirt or a jersey. There's
a lot of things that you know, these these fans
are are investing in that give back to the sports
programs that they support.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So when NIL hit, you know, one of.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The biggest things that one of the great, you know,
great things that Pat Craft, the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Athletic director at.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Penn State, wanted to do was be innovative in the
approach because Penn State needed to really really take a
strong step into this century, you know, like be current
from the hotel rooms that are there. I mean, the
airport is still an on coin conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But their favorite airport in the world.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I Mean it's easy to get through, for sure of it.
It's just hard to get into and out of with
a big airplane. But anyway, you know, so the idea
of it was to create a platform where the one
thing that has always mattered the most and all of
these equations and The reason why NIL is so prominent
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and so big to to college athletics is that it's
the athlete, you know, and it's it's interesting because me
being a part of it and teaming up with Pat
Kraft and talking to the athletic department about player driven content,
I think a lot of people misinterpret or miss put
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it in the wrong context or maybe not the wrong context,
just not in the context that I see it in Jonas.
And when you look at player driven content, I believe
player driven content is what we're doing right now. You know,
whether if it's a podcast show, teach them how to
do a podcast show, you know, teach them how to
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represent themselves well, teach them how to talk about the
things that they're passionate about, and give them a script,
help them out and let's run with it. And so
there are a lot of things that happen off the
competition field or court or ice or whatever it may
be that fans are tremendously interested in. And so for
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all of the fans that have always complained or wanted
to understand what NIL is about. In I L is
the acronym for name, image and likeness, and so what
ROAR plus has done for the Penn State community and
the sports community. It's giving our athletes the opportunity to
build their voice and build their brand and basically monetize
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the content. So it's not like we're you're being begged
for money. It's like you're looking at content of people
that you know, whether it's Carter Storrucci. You know who
is Starachi who won five national titles wrestling, whether it's
Drew Aller the Star quarterback, or k Tron Allen and
Nick Singleton, and hearing about their stories and different things
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like that. It's just bringing to life the opportunities to
hear from the athletes in a way that it's never
been done before. So it's pretty exciting. It launched yesterday,
a soft launched. The app will actually launch Jilache four.
So I'm just super proud of my school. I'm super
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proud of of Pat Kraft and the job he's doing
as athletic director. Just super proud to be a part
of it and to help be a sounding board for
you know, what's taking place there.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I'm talking about make sure you check it out.
It's roar r o a r or plus dot com.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
One thing that I did notice.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
And what's always fun when we go on these trips
to graduate hotels. We do the shows from graduate hotels,
whether it's in Columbus or Columbia, South Carolina, or even
in state college. Like on the outside, we think we
have an understanding how important that is to.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The people there, how die hard and loyal that fan
base is.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And then you get there and it's an unbelievable watch
just to see, Wow, this they really live and breathe
and some of them die with this team like this
is like this is their life. And so to be
able to provide them a place where they can find
out more about the athletes that they support, the athletes
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they drive to to watch and be entertained by each
and every fall or even throughout the course of the year,
with the wrestling program as successful as it is, that's
that's cool. And also from the player standpoint, look, some
of them might stumble into this and be like, I mean,
I'll guess I'll do a podcast and find out, man,
I love this stuff, and then go.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
To school for media. I did not go to school
for me. I went to school to be rehab education.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I wanted to be a counselor who counseled young young
men and women on, you know, how to get good
grades or how to live their lives or even at
one point I thought about going into special education. I
did not go to school for media, so you're right,
and media training is such a it's such an underserved
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talent and skill. It's like for all of these guys
that are playing men and women that are playing sports,
you know, they're not really there's not really time taken
to teach them how to how to you know, express
themselves and speak well when when they're on the microphone
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or when they're in front of a camera. So it's
something that I've been doing for so long. I mean,
one of the first dudes I've ever mentored who turned
into an amazing football player and also turned into an amazing,
amazing media personality with Sean Merriman.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So I've been.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Working with young men for a really, really long time.
And then so when the NIL space came about, I
felt as though one of the things that I could
bring to the table to help progress our university was
to actually start taking an active role in helping our
student athletes understand how powerful they can be just by
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understanding what the community they serve, you know, how to
communicate with them, how to tell them about the things
that you care about and tie that into the things
that our community cares about. So just learning some really
valuable lessons on being able to communicate and understanding that
your brand is based off of entertaining the fan base,
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but also creating experiences, you know, and understanding what that
represents and what it means. It's going to play out
on Raw Plus and in a way where it organically
shows takes the fans into you know, deeper dives with
with the you know, with the athletes and their content.
So it's pretty cool, man, and it's it's super exciting.
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It's the first of its kind. You know, there's nowhere
else where it's being done. There are other places organ
they have an app that's similar in nature where they're
using content, but the idea of player driven content is
in the way and the form that it's being done
by Penn State is such an innovative approach. So it'd
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be fun to watch, you know, if you're a Penn
State fan or a sports fan, you'll probably want to
check it out.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Now from that, in your college to the team that
drafted you. In the NFL, we do have a an
only the other one is now the Commanders it is,
and those Commanders, according to Kevin Sheehan of FSR affiliate
the team ninet eighty in DC, the Commanders may be
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bringing back something close to their old unis, all right,
something close to the unis that you wore when you
were drafted by that team back in two thousand, all right.
So it might start as maybe an alternate jersey, but
they're going to maybe potentially slowly start to morph back
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into those uniforms, which you don't realize until you see
it for the first time in a long time. And
I think I mentioned this to you. I saw somebody
wearing an old school Washington redskin jersey back in the day.
And obviously there's gonna be some changes because they don't
have the same name and all that stuff. But the
color scheme, the design, those things are fantastic. Those are sweet.
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And so if you just go back and you've seen
other teams in the NFL go back to some of
these unis. You've seen the Seahawks do it, the Eagles
with the Kelly Green, the Giants when they go back
to the old the old block lettering giants on the helmet.
So now potentially Washington could be going down that road
as well too. And if you just go back and
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look at those jerseys, I don't know if you appreciated
it in real time. Those are sweet, man. Especially the
white jerseys, like those old school white road jerseys were
awesome back in the day.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, when we went all burgundy, that was dope. All
white was dope. The throwback uh spear on the helmet
Florida State looking ones were super crazy, dope. There are
some really great, you know, great uniforms that we wore
when I was there, So do I remember in real time?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I enjoyed wearing the uniform, figuring out how to wear
the uniform, and you know, had a lot of great
moments in it too, you know, so.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's cool that that the new the new group, the
things that they're doing are so creative. And I mentioned,
you know, talking about innovation in terms of the approach
with Penn State. You know, you got to give a
lot of credit to you know, Harrison and Company, Uh,
the ownership group. They have ushered in what is seemingly
(15:47):
a very healthy, uh approach and understanding of what their
identities are. And it's becoming the culture of what the
identity is for this new Commands team, new new lad
Commanders team. So I think that's cool because a lot
of the fans truly truly love and and connected with
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that Washington Redskins brand. And and now that the name
has changed and and the color scheme, it didn't really change.
It's just more progressive if you ask me, it's just
more it's it's a it's a new age, more Boulder
type of look, but it's not it's definitely not what
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the uniforms used to be. So just understanding that the
fan base loves the Glory Day you know, the fun
Bunch and Art Monk and Ricky Sanders, and you know
and and uh, you know Gary Clark, John Riggins, obviously,
the Hogs, Doc Walker, Brian Mitchell. These are the type
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Darryl Green, these are the types of players.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And that's the.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Time James Thrash, well, that was a little bit after
the Glory Days. James Thrash. I played with James Thrash
while I was there. But that is what the city
has truly leaned on and the Doug Williams era, the
Joe Fasman's, you know, the Mark Rippins. So anything that
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would take you back, take the fans back to that,
and give them the feeling that that's what they're doing,
I think would be a tremendous tribute to those.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Of the past. But it also is.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
A very very cool way of connecting with the fan
base because they truly loved those Super Bowl years that
that they were able to bring into the district.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Do you ever think they'll go back to the name.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And let me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Ask again, I'm not I'm not as versed on Redskins
and and and any of those words. This is all
I'll saying. I've maintained this since I was a player.
Is there has been plenty of years that I was
a Redskins fan. There were plenty of years because my
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family's from Virginia, by the way, there have been plenty
of years where I played for the team, and when
we would pull up the people that were protesting, it
was like three or four the same people everywhere we went,
three or four the same people.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And when the.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Questions were asked, because we as players started asking the
question like if this is the equivalent to basically calling
us the you know, the N word, Then that's a
conversation that needs to be had. And so those topics
were being broached while I was an active player, and
there never seemed to be a conclusion that came back
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an overwhelming feeling like you can walk outside today and
holler Indian, or you could holler redskin or Chief or
you know, one of those types of names, and people
aren't offended. Whether people to accept that or not, there's
not a large enough voice or presence to say or
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establish that that's what it is. So all I can
do is defer to hearing the few people that say it.
If they saying that it's a slur, then it's a slur,
I guess, you know. But it's not as though people didn't,
you know, take the time to do the research and
ask the different tribes. And this tribe over here thinks
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it's an honor, you know, it's honoring Native Americans. This
tribe over here, this chief doesn't think that it is.
He thinks that it's a slur. So you have differing
of opinions on it. But I mean, will it ever
go back? I would probably say I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And I also wonder if part of the hesitation to
go back is because of how connected it would be
to the past.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And by the past, I mean Dan Snyder.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It feels think that would be the biggest issue. I
think it would be more of the social conscience of
people that that would be more more of a topic,
because I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Think Dan Snyder was so defiant about it for so
many years, like just refuse to even acknowledge it.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But do we have any recollection of cook? You know?
Do we have because there's.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
History connected to cook, you know, and and the ownership
that he brought to the table. It's just to me,
it's just one of those topics that we we're at
in society now. There's so many woke approaches, there's so
many sensitive approaches to things that if there were a
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real conclusion to come to there would still be so
many detractors if it came back that it was okay
to use it. I just think that people have to
deal with so much woke at this point that I
don't think that I don't think that the Riskin's name
will ever come back.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I just I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, So listen, they may too many.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Other things connected to If you start allowing those things
to kind of come back, it's like, oh, we're progressive,
we've moved on from that, So to go back to.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It, I don't know how that would be received.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah, So it looks like they potentially could bring back
the old Unis in some sort of form or fashion
closely resembling what they had back in the day, but
the name probably a long shot to ever get changed
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Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up a
little over fifteen minutes from now, we are going to
have another edition of would you rather here? Hard hitting
questions from the one and only lead to lap and
we will have to add thank those hard hitting questions
right here on Fox Sports Radio. So this is apparently
we're going to open up some competition here. They've decided,
(23:09):
you know what, this is how we're going to handle this.
And this is in relation to the flag football debate
that's been going on. Should NFL players get involved? You
got the flag football universe, which is kind of a
little bit protective at this point. Cali Brownson, she's USA
football Senior Director of High Performance and National Team Operations.
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She told the La Times that their mission is to
pick the players who give Team USA the best chance
of winning a gold medal, not the players who have
the biggest names.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
The cool thing about our process is when you come
out to the trials, there is no name on the
back of your jersey.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You get a number.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
You have the same opportunity to try out as the
person next to you. We'll just be excited to have
the best team that we could. But I always do
and always will stand up for who current who we
currently field. They're the best flag football players in the world,
both men and women, and they deserve their flowers too,
So gonna open it up the competition. We're gonna let
NFL players compete for this, and then we'll see who
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makes the best team when it comes to USA and
the representatives for flag football.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And the Olympics coming up in LA in a.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Couple of years.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And the part that I think is comical about this
is the flag football players who keep pointing out the
intricacies of their game and the IQ it takes to
play their game. These are some of the best athletes
in the world to play in the NFL. You mean
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to tell me they wouldn't be able to pick up
the little details of your game pretty quickly here to
go ahead and perform and excel at a high level.
I just don't like this site. I know that it's
a technically a different game, but it's still football, you know, like,
just without all the contact and all the rough housing.
(25:03):
I feel like NFL players are going to be more
equipped than just any Joe Blow walking in there trying
to compete for.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
This flag football.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You do run the ball in flag it's not just
seven on seven. So you do have linemen, you do
have a pass rush, you have a quarterback, you have receivers,
you have a running back. And do you have to
be versatile because you got to go both ways. There
are different intricacies that are connected to things you do
(25:35):
in flag, but in essence, it's still the root of it,
is still the concepts of it. It's still football. It's
still football. And I know Q has always took a
hard line on not thinking that flag football is football,
but and some of our estimations that have played the game.
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We do think that it is closely related and almost
a way to gradually introduce your kids into football to understand,
you know, the different parts of the game. You know,
whether it be the quarterback's position, whether it be you know,
a receiver, and what the route concepts may be. That
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does exist in flag football. But this goes back to
the conversation that we had earlier Jonas about the NBA
and how is the NBA, which, by the way, this
was a very well watched what sixteen million I heard
on the update that watched the game that that is
impressive for the NBA. But when we talked about the
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comparisons of how the NFL is able to leverage and
build and grow and through storytelling and through experiences and
apply appealing to the fan bases, this is one of
those moments. This is one of those moments. There shouldn't
be any just anyone that's able to walk off the
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street and try out for a flag team to try
to make it into the playoffs, I mean, into the Olympics.
That doesn't that doesn't sound right. There's no other, there's
no other. You're not going to walk into a track
situation just off the street. You have to qualify.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, what do you think this is usc where homeless
guys can go field punts?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Come? Okare you You should have to qualify. You should
have to go through a screening process for one, just
out the gate. If NFL players want to throw their
hats into into throw their names into the hat to
be considered, they're already qualified. Yes, they have already. They
already have a resume and a current job that would
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say their skill set makes them qualify to be you know,
eligible to to participate.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's it's the equivalent to if some blow hard was
at a mini putt golf course like a golf and stuff,
and he's getting ready to hit a ball in to
a wind meal that goes through a clown mouth on
the other side, and Scottie Scheffler rolls up and he goes, sorry, man,
this is mini pot Yeah. You just stick to what
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you know. Dude, that's the best golfer in the world.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
If he wants to partake and bring notoriety and exposure
and be involved in all this, not only should you
be open to it, you should be welcoming to it
and stop trying to create this divide like, Nah, it's
a different game to stop. These are the best players
on the planet. Okay, they're gonna be able to figure
this out. It's preposterous to think that they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, you're gonna base it off of the way to
quarterback throws. Okay, so who's going to out throw the
who's going to out throw NFLQB that's playing seven on seven.
So you're gonna measure the way they throw. You're going
to measure how fast the receivers are and the type
of routes they're going to run. Who's going to run
better routes? Who's going to be faster? Right, Like, you're
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going to get offensive lineman. I think it's three. You
have a center and you have two guards. I believe
in seven on seven and if those are true linemen,
if those are true linemen that we're talking about, can
you imagine, Because here's the thing I believe. I believe
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because of the way flag football is, two of the
linemen maybe are allowed to go out for passes. I believe.
I could be wrong. I could be a little rusty.
I used to coach. I used to coach Flag. But
here's the thing I wouldn't even Jonas. I don't care
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if it's okay, if it's seven.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Guys, is it seven guys that are out there?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Three on the line, a quarterback receive two receivers and
it might be a back, so it might be what
seven guys. I believe even seven guys anyway, I would
be comfortable with the three guys in fact, including the fourth.
(30:08):
Say Lamar Jackson is your quarterback, or Josh Allen is
your quarterback?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Right? Or Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback? Right? One of
these guys that are.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Also mobile is your quarterback? In the seven on seven?
I believe you can run. I believe a quarterback can run,
and not seven on seven in flay, I believe a
quarterback can run.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Let me pull up the rules. I just I just.
All I'm saying is who's going to cover?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't care if you have seven men out there,
who's going to outpass rush? If we have two of
the best offensive tackles in a center that is your
offensive line, who's going to pass rush that? And who's
going to cover Tyreek Hill and Justin Jefferson on the outside.
A Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson on the outside. I
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don't care how many players you got out there. You
don't have enough guys to be able to cover them.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Let's go to our I have all the rules and
inside information. Insider lead to lot for the latest league.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Well, some leagues do have seven players. The Olympic flag
football teams will be five on five, five on five, okay,
with two twenty minute halves seventy yard field. I could
keep going down the list, but yes, to answer your question,
five on five.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
And by the way, NFL players don't need this, Like,
if we're being honest here, this is kind of beneath them.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm sorry, Like it just is.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So if they want to, if they want to show up,
like you're a Dave and Busters and Michael Jordan wants
to play Papa Shot, are you gonna tell him no?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Like no, stop, like welcome him in.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yes, come be a part of this, bring the attention,
bring all like anything you want with us. And if
there's gonna be some guys who do want to partake,
and it's probably not even gonna be maybe even star
NFL players, And you're going to see what real football
players look like in comparison to everybody else. And that's
not to diminish. You know what they're doing with flag
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football and the specialists in that. Dude, those guys are awesome,
but there it feels like there's levels to this and
nobody just wants to acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm gonna tell you what will happen. Here's what will happen.
You'll come out. The quarterback, if it's an NFL quarterback,
will read the defense. If the defenders of any nation
are within five to seven yards of the receivers before
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that ball is snapped, they're going up top. If they
are beyond seven yards and it's like eight to nine
to ten yards off before the ball is snap, they're
throwing it immediately. It's a catch and throw immediately. And
good luck getting them dudes flags. Good luck.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Now. I believe you get you get.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You start at seventy yards, you start at the five
yard line. I believe you can get. How many how
many first downs can you you get?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I want to say it's like three or four something
like that. Maybe it's like four.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Hey, Lee, if you want to be Mike Pereira or
Dean Blandino when it comes to this stuff, you need
to pick up your game here, Okay, we need the
rules and we need details on the rules.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
When it comes to flag football.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
No no lineman, no offensive or defensive lineman. Two blitzers.
As long as they start seven yards from the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You get four plays to cross midfield. Yep. Once the
team crosses.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Midfield, it gets four plays to score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So in essence, get eight plays.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Okay, So here's what Lamar Jackson should say. I don't
need four plays, give me two.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
We'll be fine. I'm just telling you out here.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm just telling you right now. If it's any of
the elite players.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
That not even they don't even have to be the elites.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
They could be back up.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, if you're off, if you're not in a press
man coverage, they're going to throw the ball immediately. If
they're in a pressman coverage, jonas they're going up top,
it's going to be a touchdown in one play. The
only way they don't get the touchdown is if they overthrow.
If it's a bad throw, that's the only way it
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doesn't happen. Scientifically speaking, there is not a person that
exists in this world that's going to be able to
cover the dudes that play in the National Football League
man to man in a passing in a passing game,
it's a passing game. Not to mention, you got to
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get close enough to that man to grab his flag.
Good luck with that. I don't think people understand. If
you want to get a good representation of how quickly
these dudes move and how fast they move, try to
find your way to a sideline to watch a pro
football game or even.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A college game. It is lightning fast, bro, You know what?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
And you know the other thing too, is that I
don't know what the if you were to tackle somebody
or bring somebody down, I don't know what sort of
penalty or fine comes along with. I don't know if
you're ejected from the game or whatnot. But there also
is the possibility that maybe one of these flag football
players gets a little frisky and then an NFL player
is like, Okay, one play, We're going to try this
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the way I know how to do it and just
run somebody over. And then you got to deal with
that reality, and then who wants to get close to
grabbing a flag afterwards? If you're if you're worried about
whether or not you're going to get clawborates. It's just
the whole thing, the idea that there could be any pushback.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't even have to do that. There's just not
There's just not going to be a person humanly possible,
like humanly able to cover an elite football player, which
would be any take pick and choose who you want
to use. I don't care if their first, second, or
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even third string on an NFL roster. They are going
to be way, way, way too talented for the rest
of the pool out there to.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Be able to contend with them. And I know people
might be sitting there saying that, oh, he's naive.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Levar's naive for saying this. What a horrible take, dadadab
this and that No, I'm not, I am not. My
toes are down. Ten of them are down on this
hill and I'll die on it with this take. There
is not a person in another nation, another country that
would be able to physically be able to play with
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the skill the skill level of the guys that would
be coming into the fold, if they were coming from
the National Football League to play in it, there's not
a skill level. There might be There might be somebody
who's fast. There might be somebody who's strong, but when
you're talking about the the understanding of the game, how
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to run the routes, the dimensions of the field, running
out the yack yards after to catch all those things,
you don't have that, and you're not going to be
able to compete at a high enough level to deal
with an elite quarterback and receiving corps in flag football.
So it doesn't make sense to actually act like it
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like it's open to everybody.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
No, be qualified, yeah, be qualified.
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Let's make his toy and now, would would you rather
your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
All right?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Lead to lop?
Speaker 7 (38:52):
What do we got guys? Dolly Parton just announced that
she's going to have a residency in Vegas. We all
know how we feel about Dolly Partner.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
We are know how that work?
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah you can't.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Again, say it again, play it again. Dolly Parton could
get that work work? She can't? Would would a E
not a O?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Well? Would you rather have permission to get out? You
know what?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I mean, go go, you know, do what I need
to do. But I'm just saying, Dolly, it'd be you disappeared.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
That's all I'm want to.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Now, you do have other choices in the terms of
Vegas residencies that you could go.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Put it in work with you.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
See Carrie Underwood, Shania Twain, Janet Jackson, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry.
Those are the current women residencies out there in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Stular so interesting.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
I've seen Aguilary recently, Dolly, Dolly my baby.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I'd rather see Dolly, to be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
Yeah, not a bad choice, guys, would you rather not that?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Shake?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Gilgess.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Alexander has to make a choice between these. But would
you rather win the NBA Finals MVP or the season MVP?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Ooh, that's a good one. I'd rather win the season MVP.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah me too. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Now, winning the finals MVP also means that you likely
won the finals.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Mean I get that, But you could have had a
really good finals series but not had a great season.
Getting MVP of the season means you had a great season,
which means ultimately you're the reason why they're there to
win it.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So if somebody got MVP of that, it's cool because
everybody was giving me the attention because I'm the MVP anyway.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, what else you got, Lee? That's your Would you
rather for the weekend? What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Would you rather throw a hell mary or catch a
hell Mary?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Throw one.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm gonna just send one up right now, for Lee, damn,
and for Dolly Parton.
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Yeah?
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Break it up? Lorena, you approve of this? I love
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M hmmm, she said, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Hey, By the way, is this already?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Is this the second tribute to stripper song that you've
had as your intro?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, it's early, so I just figured I play some
more upbeat up tempo music.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean, they're probably getting out of work right now.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It might still be going. Damn. Yeah.
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It turns out to all of those hard working uh,
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be putting in that time, putting in that working in
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of Joe, like, appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Black and Drag got you back.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Damn right it.
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They are. That's a bar. Black and Drag got you back.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But did I ever tell you the story speaking of
strippers when I was a bust, When I was a
busboy at TGI Fridays, they don't have strippers in there,
they don't, but they when you got tips, it was cash.
And so I took cash in to the bank to,
you know, try and put it in my account. But
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it was a lot of ones, because the bartenders when
they would pay tip you out of the servers, they'd
give you all the ones, they'd keep all the big bills.
And so I walked in there with this just giant
stack of ones that I'd been collecting with my tips,
and the lady working at the bank got my number,
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called my house after the bank and asked if I
was a stripper, because apparently those were the only people
that would ever bring cash in. And so for you
exotic dancers out there, I know your pain. I know
what it's like to be judged. I know what it's
like to get the weird looks. I got you walking
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in with sweaty one dollar bills to a bank to
try and cash it all in. And I don't know
in this day and age where you can just tap
a card or use your phone, I don't know if
that's possible at a strip club. But if you're still
paying cash, just know you are not alone in that
troubled world.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Just let them know. I wonder if somebody's created like
bar code stickers for strippers, or like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Little stickers on their ends, right on their.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Sper Has a stripper gotten a bar code tattooed on
them that takes you right to their their cash app
or their venmo?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, it's likely a brilliant idea, that is a Yeah,
that's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah.
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So if you are one of those hard working, hustling
exotic dancers out there, coded, you know, make it easy
for everybody, you know, in this day and age where
it seems like cash flow is at a minimum.
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Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox with you,
We are going to take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern time six o'clock Pacific. LeVar takes
center stage. Please roar plus the listen. Uh, this is
big for you. And did it just launch yesterday? Is
this the Uh, it's a soft launch, it hasn't gone live.
(04:29):
It's an app that will go live and.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's basically, uh, it's yeah, it's for student athletes. It's
it's run by the student athletes. There there will be
people like myself that are contributing content. I'll do Quite
Franklin with Coach Franklin again for the third year. I'm
doing a show also called We Are with LeVar. Basically,
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you know where the nil is now? You know, there's
so many people out here just you know, begging for
money and taking you know, the NIL era as as
an opportunity to just openly beg the fan for money.
But one thing that people don't understand Jonas sometimes the
people that are asking for more and more money and
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always asking for money, is is that our fans, you know,
they spend a lot of money. They invest in so
many different things that are connected to the sports community,
whether it be tickets. If you have tickets then that
means you got to pay for gas. That means you
got to try to figure out if you're going to
stay there overnight or if you're going to drive back
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to where you're going. You know, what are you going
to eat for food? If you're taking a kid, they're
going to want a T shirt or a jersey. There's
a lot of things that you know, these these fans
are are investing in that give back to the sports
programs that they support.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So when NIL hit, you know, one of.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The biggest things that one of the great, you know,
great things that Pat Craft, the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Athletic director at.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Penn State, wanted to do was be innovative in the
approach because Penn State needed to really really take a
strong step into this century, you know, like be current
from the hotel rooms that are there. I mean, the
airport is still an on coin conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But their favorite airport in the world.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I Mean it's easy to get through, for sure of it.
It's just hard to get into and out of with
a big airplane. But anyway, you know, so the idea
of it was to create a platform where the one
thing that has always mattered the most and all of
these equations and The reason why NIL is so prominent
(06:48):
and so big to to college athletics is that it's
the athlete, you know, and it's it's interesting because me
being a part of it and teaming up with Pat
Kraft and talking to the athletic department about player driven content,
I think a lot of people misinterpret or miss put
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it in the wrong context or maybe not the wrong context,
just not in the context that I see it in Jonas.
And when you look at player driven content, I believe
player driven content is what we're doing right now. You know,
whether if it's a podcast show, teach them how to
do a podcast show, you know, teach them how to
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represent themselves well, teach them how to talk about the
things that they're passionate about, and give them a script,
help them out and let's run with it. And so
there are a lot of things that happen off the
competition field or court or ice or whatever it may
be that fans are tremendously interested in. And so for
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all of the fans that have always complained or wanted
to understand what NIL is about. In I L is
the acronym for name, image and likeness, and so what
ROAR plus has done for the Penn State community and
the sports community. It's giving our athletes the opportunity to
build their voice and build their brand and basically monetize
(08:19):
the content. So it's not like we're you're being begged
for money. It's like you're looking at content of people
that you know, whether it's Carter Storrucci. You know who
is Starachi who won five national titles wrestling, whether it's
Drew Aller the Star quarterback, or k Tron Allen and
Nick Singleton, and hearing about their stories and different things
(08:43):
like that. It's just bringing to life the opportunities to
hear from the athletes in a way that it's never
been done before. So it's pretty exciting. It launched yesterday,
a soft launched. The app will actually launch Jilache four.
So I'm just super proud of my school. I'm super
(09:03):
proud of of Pat Kraft and the job he's doing
as athletic director. Just super proud to be a part
of it and to help be a sounding board for
you know, what's taking place there.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I'm talking about make sure you check it out.
It's roar r o a r or plus dot com.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
One thing that I did notice.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
And what's always fun when we go on these trips
to graduate hotels. We do the shows from graduate hotels,
whether it's in Columbus or Columbia, South Carolina, or even
in state college. Like on the outside, we think we
have an understanding how important that is to.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The people there, how die hard and loyal that fan
base is.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And then you get there and it's an unbelievable watch
just to see, Wow, this they really live and breathe
and some of them die with this team like this
is like this is their life. And so to be
able to provide them a place where they can find
out more about the athletes that they support, the athletes
(10:07):
they drive to to watch and be entertained by each
and every fall or even throughout the course of the year,
with the wrestling program as successful as it is, that's
that's cool. And also from the player standpoint, look, some
of them might stumble into this and be like, I mean,
I'll guess I'll do a podcast and find out, man,
I love this stuff, and then go.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
To school for media. I did not go to school
for me. I went to school to be rehab education.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I wanted to be a counselor who counseled young young
men and women on, you know, how to get good
grades or how to live their lives or even at
one point I thought about going into special education. I
did not go to school for media, so you're right,
and media training is such a it's such an underserved
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talent and skill. It's like for all of these guys
that are playing men and women that are playing sports,
you know, they're not really there's not really time taken
to teach them how to how to you know, express
themselves and speak well when when they're on the microphone
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or when they're in front of a camera. So it's
something that I've been doing for so long. I mean,
one of the first dudes I've ever mentored who turned
into an amazing football player and also turned into an amazing,
amazing media personality with Sean Merriman.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So I've been.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Working with young men for a really, really long time.
And then so when the NIL space came about, I
felt as though one of the things that I could
bring to the table to help progress our university was
to actually start taking an active role in helping our
student athletes understand how powerful they can be just by
(11:56):
understanding what the community they serve, you know, how to
communicate with them, how to tell them about the things
that you care about and tie that into the things
that our community cares about. So just learning some really
valuable lessons on being able to communicate and understanding that
your brand is based off of entertaining the fan base,
(12:19):
but also creating experiences, you know, and understanding what that
represents and what it means. It's going to play out
on Raw Plus and in a way where it organically
shows takes the fans into you know, deeper dives with
with the you know, with the athletes and their content.
So it's pretty cool, man, and it's it's super exciting.
(12:41):
It's the first of its kind. You know, there's nowhere
else where it's being done. There are other places organ
they have an app that's similar in nature where they're
using content, but the idea of player driven content is
in the way and the form that it's being done
by Penn State is such an innovative approach. So it'd
(13:02):
be fun to watch, you know, if you're a Penn
State fan or a sports fan, you'll probably want to
check it out.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Now from that, in your college to the team that
drafted you. In the NFL, we do have a an
only the other one is now the Commanders it is,
and those Commanders, according to Kevin Sheehan of FSR affiliate
the team ninet eighty in DC, the Commanders may be
(13:29):
bringing back something close to their old unis, all right,
something close to the unis that you wore when you
were drafted by that team back in two thousand, all right.
So it might start as maybe an alternate jersey, but
they're going to maybe potentially slowly start to morph back
(13:49):
into those uniforms, which you don't realize until you see
it for the first time in a long time. And
I think I mentioned this to you. I saw somebody
wearing an old school Washington redskin jersey back in the day.
And obviously there's gonna be some changes because they don't
have the same name and all that stuff. But the
color scheme, the design, those things are fantastic. Those are sweet.
(14:15):
And so if you just go back and you've seen
other teams in the NFL go back to some of
these unis. You've seen the Seahawks do it, the Eagles
with the Kelly Green, the Giants when they go back
to the old the old block lettering giants on the helmet.
So now potentially Washington could be going down that road
as well too. And if you just go back and
(14:38):
look at those jerseys, I don't know if you appreciated
it in real time. Those are sweet, man. Especially the
white jerseys, like those old school white road jerseys were
awesome back in the day.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, when we went all burgundy, that was dope. All
white was dope. The throwback uh spear on the helmet
Florida State looking ones were super crazy, dope. There are
some really great, you know, great uniforms that we wore
when I was there, So do I remember in real time?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I enjoyed wearing the uniform, figuring out how to wear
the uniform, and you know, had a lot of great
moments in it too, you know, so.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's cool that that the new the new group, the
things that they're doing are so creative. And I mentioned,
you know, talking about innovation in terms of the approach
with Penn State. You know, you got to give a
lot of credit to you know, Harrison and Company, Uh,
the ownership group. They have ushered in what is seemingly
(15:47):
a very healthy, uh approach and understanding of what their
identities are. And it's becoming the culture of what the
identity is for this new Commands team, new new lad
Commanders team. So I think that's cool because a lot
of the fans truly truly love and and connected with
(16:12):
that Washington Redskins brand. And and now that the name
has changed and and the color scheme, it didn't really change.
It's just more progressive if you ask me, it's just
more it's it's a it's a new age, more Boulder
type of look, but it's not it's definitely not what
(16:33):
the uniforms used to be. So just understanding that the
fan base loves the Glory Day you know, the fun
Bunch and Art Monk and Ricky Sanders, and you know
and and uh, you know Gary Clark, John Riggins, obviously,
the Hogs, Doc Walker, Brian Mitchell. These are the type
(16:56):
Darryl Green, these are the types of players.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And that's the.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Time James Thrash, well, that was a little bit after
the Glory Days. James Thrash. I played with James Thrash
while I was there. But that is what the city
has truly leaned on and the Doug Williams era, the
Joe Fasman's, you know, the Mark Rippins. So anything that
(17:19):
would take you back, take the fans back to that,
and give them the feeling that that's what they're doing,
I think would be a tremendous tribute to those.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Of the past. But it also is.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
A very very cool way of connecting with the fan
base because they truly loved those Super Bowl years that
that they were able to bring into the district.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Do you ever think they'll go back to the name.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And let me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Ask again, I'm not I'm not as versed on Redskins
and and and any of those words. This is all
I'll saying. I've maintained this since I was a player.
Is there has been plenty of years that I was
a Redskins fan. There were plenty of years because my
(18:05):
family's from Virginia, by the way, there have been plenty
of years where I played for the team, and when
we would pull up the people that were protesting, it
was like three or four the same people everywhere we went,
three or four the same people.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And when the.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Questions were asked, because we as players started asking the
question like if this is the equivalent to basically calling
us the you know, the N word, Then that's a
conversation that needs to be had. And so those topics
were being broached while I was an active player, and
there never seemed to be a conclusion that came back
(18:43):
an overwhelming feeling like you can walk outside today and
holler Indian, or you could holler redskin or Chief or
you know, one of those types of names, and people
aren't offended. Whether people to accept that or not, there's
not a large enough voice or presence to say or
(19:07):
establish that that's what it is. So all I can
do is defer to hearing the few people that say it.
If they saying that it's a slur, then it's a slur,
I guess, you know. But it's not as though people didn't,
you know, take the time to do the research and
ask the different tribes. And this tribe over here thinks
(19:29):
it's an honor, you know, it's honoring Native Americans. This
tribe over here, this chief doesn't think that it is.
He thinks that it's a slur. So you have differing
of opinions on it. But I mean, will it ever
go back? I would probably say I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And I also wonder if part of the hesitation to
go back is because of how connected it would be
to the past.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And by the past, I mean Dan Snyder.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It feels think that would be the biggest issue. I
think it would be more of the social conscience of
people that that would be more more of a topic,
because I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Think Dan Snyder was so defiant about it for so
many years, like just refuse to even acknowledge it.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But do we have any recollection of cook? You know?
Do we have because there's.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
History connected to cook, you know, and and the ownership
that he brought to the table. It's just to me,
it's just one of those topics that we we're at
in society now. There's so many woke approaches, there's so
many sensitive approaches to things that if there were a
(20:46):
real conclusion to come to there would still be so
many detractors if it came back that it was okay
to use it. I just think that people have to
deal with so much woke at this point that I
don't think that I don't think that the Riskin's name
will ever come back.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I just I don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, So listen, they may too many.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Other things connected to If you start allowing those things
to kind of come back, it's like, oh, we're progressive,
we've moved on from that, So to go back to.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It, I don't know how that would be received.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah, So it looks like they potentially could bring back
the old Unis in some sort of form or fashion
closely resembling what they had back in the day, but
the name probably a long shot to ever get changed
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we will have to add thank those hard hitting questions
right here on Fox Sports Radio. So this is apparently
we're going to open up some competition here. They've decided,
(23:09):
you know what, this is how we're going to handle this.
And this is in relation to the flag football debate
that's been going on. Should NFL players get involved? You
got the flag football universe, which is kind of a
little bit protective at this point. Cali Brownson, she's USA
football Senior Director of High Performance and National Team Operations.
(23:33):
She told the La Times that their mission is to
pick the players who give Team USA the best chance
of winning a gold medal, not the players who have
the biggest names.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
The cool thing about our process is when you come
out to the trials, there is no name on the
back of your jersey.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You get a number.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
You have the same opportunity to try out as the
person next to you. We'll just be excited to have
the best team that we could. But I always do
and always will stand up for who current who we
currently field. They're the best flag football players in the world,
both men and women, and they deserve their flowers too,
So gonna open it up the competition. We're gonna let
NFL players compete for this, and then we'll see who
(24:13):
makes the best team when it comes to USA and
the representatives for flag football.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
And the Olympics coming up in LA in a.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Couple of years.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And the part that I think is comical about this
is the flag football players who keep pointing out the
intricacies of their game and the IQ it takes to
play their game. These are some of the best athletes
in the world to play in the NFL. You mean
(24:43):
to tell me they wouldn't be able to pick up
the little details of your game pretty quickly here to
go ahead and perform and excel at a high level.
I just don't like this site. I know that it's
a technically a different game, but it's still football, you know, like,
just without all the contact and all the rough housing.
(25:03):
I feel like NFL players are going to be more
equipped than just any Joe Blow walking in there trying
to compete for.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
This flag football.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You do run the ball in flag it's not just
seven on seven. So you do have linemen, you do
have a pass rush, you have a quarterback, you have receivers,
you have a running back. And do you have to
be versatile because you got to go both ways. There
are different intricacies that are connected to things you do
(25:35):
in flag, but in essence, it's still the root of it,
is still the concepts of it. It's still football. It's
still football. And I know Q has always took a
hard line on not thinking that flag football is football,
but and some of our estimations that have played the game.
(25:56):
We do think that it is closely related and almost
a way to gradually introduce your kids into football to understand,
you know, the different parts of the game. You know,
whether it be the quarterback's position, whether it be you know,
a receiver, and what the route concepts may be. That
(26:16):
does exist in flag football. But this goes back to
the conversation that we had earlier Jonas about the NBA
and how is the NBA, which, by the way, this
was a very well watched what sixteen million I heard
on the update that watched the game that that is
impressive for the NBA. But when we talked about the
(26:39):
comparisons of how the NFL is able to leverage and
build and grow and through storytelling and through experiences and
apply appealing to the fan bases, this is one of
those moments. This is one of those moments. There shouldn't
be any just anyone that's able to walk off the
(26:59):
street and try out for a flag team to try
to make it into the playoffs, I mean, into the Olympics.
That doesn't that doesn't sound right. There's no other, there's
no other. You're not going to walk into a track
situation just off the street. You have to qualify.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, what do you think this is usc where homeless
guys can go field punts?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Come? Okare you You should have to qualify. You should
have to go through a screening process for one, just
out the gate. If NFL players want to throw their
hats into into throw their names into the hat to
be considered, they're already qualified. Yes, they have already. They
already have a resume and a current job that would
(27:42):
say their skill set makes them qualify to be you know,
eligible to to participate.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's it's the equivalent to if some blow hard was
at a mini putt golf course like a golf and stuff,
and he's getting ready to hit a ball in to
a wind meal that goes through a clown mouth on
the other side, and Scottie Scheffler rolls up and he goes, sorry, man,
this is mini pot Yeah. You just stick to what
(28:10):
you know. Dude, that's the best golfer in the world.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
If he wants to partake and bring notoriety and exposure
and be involved in all this, not only should you
be open to it, you should be welcoming to it
and stop trying to create this divide like, Nah, it's
a different game to stop. These are the best players
on the planet. Okay, they're gonna be able to figure
this out. It's preposterous to think that they wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, you're gonna base it off of the way to
quarterback throws. Okay, so who's going to out throw the
who's going to out throw NFLQB that's playing seven on seven.
So you're gonna measure the way they throw. You're going
to measure how fast the receivers are and the type
of routes they're going to run. Who's going to run
better routes? Who's going to be faster? Right, Like, you're
(28:58):
going to get offensive lineman. I think it's three. You
have a center and you have two guards. I believe
in seven on seven and if those are true linemen,
if those are true linemen that we're talking about, can
you imagine, Because here's the thing I believe. I believe
(29:20):
because of the way flag football is, two of the
linemen maybe are allowed to go out for passes. I believe.
I could be wrong. I could be a little rusty.
I used to coach. I used to coach Flag. But
here's the thing I wouldn't even Jonas. I don't care
(29:42):
if it's okay, if it's seven.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Guys, is it seven guys that are out there?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Three on the line, a quarterback receive two receivers and
it might be a back, so it might be what
seven guys. I believe even seven guys anyway, I would
be comfortable with the three guys in fact, including the fourth.
(30:08):
Say Lamar Jackson is your quarterback, or Josh Allen is
your quarterback?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Right? Or Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback? Right? One of
these guys that are.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Also mobile is your quarterback? In the seven on seven?
I believe you can run. I believe a quarterback can run,
and not seven on seven in flay, I believe a
quarterback can run.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Let me pull up the rules. I just I just.
All I'm saying is who's going to cover?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't care if you have seven men out there,
who's going to outpass rush? If we have two of
the best offensive tackles in a center that is your
offensive line, who's going to pass rush that? And who's
going to cover Tyreek Hill and Justin Jefferson on the outside.
A Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson on the outside. I
(30:55):
don't care how many players you got out there. You
don't have enough guys to be able to cover them.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Let's go to our I have all the rules and
inside information. Insider lead to lot for the latest league.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Well, some leagues do have seven players. The Olympic flag
football teams will be five on five, five on five, okay,
with two twenty minute halves seventy yard field. I could
keep going down the list, but yes, to answer your question,
five on five.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
And by the way, NFL players don't need this, Like,
if we're being honest here, this is kind of beneath them.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm sorry, Like it just is.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So if they want to, if they want to show up,
like you're a Dave and Busters and Michael Jordan wants
to play Papa Shot, are you gonna tell him no?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Like no, stop, like welcome him in.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yes, come be a part of this, bring the attention,
bring all like anything you want with us. And if
there's gonna be some guys who do want to partake,
and it's probably not even gonna be maybe even star
NFL players, And you're going to see what real football
players look like in comparison to everybody else. And that's
not to diminish. You know what they're doing with flag
(32:03):
football and the specialists in that. Dude, those guys are awesome,
but there it feels like there's levels to this and
nobody just wants to acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm gonna tell you what will happen. Here's what will happen.
You'll come out. The quarterback, if it's an NFL quarterback,
will read the defense. If the defenders of any nation
are within five to seven yards of the receivers before
(32:32):
that ball is snapped, they're going up top. If they
are beyond seven yards and it's like eight to nine
to ten yards off before the ball is snap, they're
throwing it immediately. It's a catch and throw immediately. And
good luck getting them dudes flags. Good luck.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Now. I believe you get you get.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You start at seventy yards, you start at the five
yard line. I believe you can get. How many how
many first downs can you you get?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I want to say it's like three or four something
like that. Maybe it's like four.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Hey, Lee, if you want to be Mike Pereira or
Dean Blandino when it comes to this stuff, you need
to pick up your game here, Okay, we need the
rules and we need details on the rules.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
When it comes to flag football.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
No no lineman, no offensive or defensive lineman. Two blitzers.
As long as they start seven yards from the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You get four plays to cross midfield. Yep. Once the
team crosses.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Midfield, it gets four plays to score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So in essence, get eight plays.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Okay, So here's what Lamar Jackson should say. I don't
need four plays, give me two.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
We'll be fine. I'm just telling you out here.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm just telling you right now. If it's any of
the elite players.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
That not even they don't even have to be the elites.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
They could be back up.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, if you're off, if you're not in a press
man coverage, they're going to throw the ball immediately. If
they're in a pressman coverage, jonas they're going up top,
it's going to be a touchdown in one play. The
only way they don't get the touchdown is if they overthrow.
If it's a bad throw, that's the only way it
(34:18):
doesn't happen. Scientifically speaking, there is not a person that
exists in this world that's going to be able to
cover the dudes that play in the National Football League
man to man in a passing in a passing game,
it's a passing game. Not to mention, you got to
(34:39):
get close enough to that man to grab his flag.
Good luck with that. I don't think people understand. If
you want to get a good representation of how quickly
these dudes move and how fast they move, try to
find your way to a sideline to watch a pro
football game or even.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A college game. It is lightning fast, bro, You know what?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
And you know the other thing too, is that I
don't know what the if you were to tackle somebody
or bring somebody down, I don't know what sort of
penalty or fine comes along with. I don't know if
you're ejected from the game or whatnot. But there also
is the possibility that maybe one of these flag football
players gets a little frisky and then an NFL player
is like, Okay, one play, We're going to try this
(35:25):
the way I know how to do it and just
run somebody over. And then you got to deal with
that reality, and then who wants to get close to
grabbing a flag afterwards? If you're if you're worried about
whether or not you're going to get clawborates. It's just
the whole thing, the idea that there could be any pushback.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't even have to do that. There's just not
There's just not going to be a person humanly possible,
like humanly able to cover an elite football player, which
would be any take pick and choose who you want
to use. I don't care if their first, second, or
(36:02):
even third string on an NFL roster. They are going
to be way, way, way too talented for the rest
of the pool out there to.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Be able to contend with them. And I know people
might be sitting there saying that, oh, he's naive.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Levar's naive for saying this. What a horrible take, dadadab
this and that No, I'm not, I am not. My
toes are down. Ten of them are down on this
hill and I'll die on it with this take. There
is not a person in another nation, another country that
would be able to physically be able to play with
(36:40):
the skill the skill level of the guys that would
be coming into the fold, if they were coming from
the National Football League to play in it, there's not
a skill level. There might be There might be somebody
who's fast. There might be somebody who's strong, but when
you're talking about the the understanding of the game, how
(37:01):
to run the routes, the dimensions of the field, running
out the yack yards after to catch all those things,
you don't have that, and you're not going to be
able to compete at a high enough level to deal
with an elite quarterback and receiving corps in flag football.
So it doesn't make sense to actually act like it
(37:22):
like it's open to everybody.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
No, be qualified, yeah, be qualified.
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Let's make his toy and now, would would you rather
your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
All right?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Lead to lop?
Speaker 7 (38:52):
What do we got guys? Dolly Parton just announced that
she's going to have a residency in Vegas. We all
know how we feel about Dolly Partner.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
We are know how that work?
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah you can't.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Again, say it again, play it again. Dolly Parton could
get that work work? She can't? Would would a E
not a O?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Well? Would you rather have permission to get out? You
know what?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I mean, go go, you know, do what I need
to do. But I'm just saying, Dolly, it'd be you disappeared.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
That's all I'm want to.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Now, you do have other choices in the terms of
Vegas residencies that you could go.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Put it in work with you.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
See Carrie Underwood, Shania Twain, Janet Jackson, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry.
Those are the current women residencies out there in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Stular so interesting.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
I've seen Aguilary recently, Dolly, Dolly my baby.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I'd rather see Dolly, to be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
Yeah, not a bad choice, guys, would you rather not that?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Shake?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Gilgess.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Alexander has to make a choice between these. But would
you rather win the NBA Finals MVP or the season MVP?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Ooh, that's a good one. I'd rather win the season MVP.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah me too. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Now, winning the finals MVP also means that you likely
won the finals.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Mean I get that, But you could have had a
really good finals series but not had a great season.
Getting MVP of the season means you had a great season,
which means ultimately you're the reason why they're there to
win it.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So if somebody got MVP of that, it's cool because
everybody was giving me the attention because I'm the MVP anyway.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, what else you got, Lee? That's your Would you
rather for the weekend? What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Would you rather throw a hell mary or catch a
hell Mary?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Throw one.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm gonna just send one up right now, for Lee, damn,
and for Dolly Parton.
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