February 3, 2022 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to Hue Jackson trying to confirm Brian Flores' claims about bribery for tanking. They investigate what went into Jim Harbaugh returning to Michigan and the Vikings hiring Rams OC Kevin O'Connell. Plus, found sniper rifles, fake Super Bowl rings and Bengals practice facility
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o'clock Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio. So a couple
of topics that are floating around the world of the enniment, which,
by the way, the Super Bowl is coming up a
little over a week from now, if anybody cares, so
that would be happening. But the the Brian Flores sagas
continuing on, we talked about just sort of the implications
and just you know, the the racial impact that it's
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having and those conversations that have gone on. Uh. The
other portion of this is the claims that Steven Ross,
the owner of the Dolphins, was offering him a hundred
thousand dollars for losses back in two thousand nineteen. Reports
say that there is proof of this. Steven Ross has
denied it, so we wait to see how that all
plays out. And then Hugh Jackson, UH, the former Brown's
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head coach. Uh, he alluded to being rewarded for losses
while in Cleveland, which if that's the case, he's probably
a multi multi, multi multibillionaire at this point because they
did a lot of losing. And Hugh Jackson was on
ESPN yesterday talking about his claims specifically, I wasn't offered
a hundred thousand dollars for every game, but there was
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a substantial amount of money made within you know what
happened in the situation every year at the end of it,
no coach takes a job to lose, and I think
people understand that you take jobs to win. Your contract
says wins, you don't get paid for losing. And then
here I am, after being one in thirty one, I'm
kept the third year and given a contract extension that
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nobody knew. So that should tell everybody something right there.
Why do you keep a coach who's one in thirty
one when your track record has been to get rid
of coaches? How does that support though racism? I it
doesn't that counter doesn't that actually be counter to that?
Is it? If if if you were so bad, were
you win what one in thirty one, that then you
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got an extension? I just I don't. I wonder is
there a confusion over being rewarded. I think there's a
little bit of confusion to every thing that's out there.
There's there's the discussion point of being rewarded for for
throwing games, losing games, which, guys, it's a bribe. Let's
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call it what it is. That that's what the legal
term is for it. And so if he's saying he's
being bribed and do signing up for what he initially
signed for, because that's where he contradicts himself. Everyone knew
when Paul de Podesta got hired by the Cleveland Browns
the direction they were going to go, and Hugh Jackson
signed up for that. The all those guys who were
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part of that signed up for that. They were going
to tank, accumulate draft picks and build up their salary
cap space. That's what they did, and it was so
they then could you know, get to a point where
they were competitive like we saw a year ago and
even this year to a degree. The reality is Hugh
Jackson signed up for that. He couldn't have ended up,
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you know, being hired for that job and listening to
them have this plan and not go, well, I don't
want to be a part of this. I mean, he
signed up for it. So I don't really understand how
him saying that he got an extension after going through
that but then subsequently got fired, how that proves anything.
It almost contradicts what he's trying to say. Well, I
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think he proves the point of confirmation. Yeah, but because
because I mean, but again, to me, racism, the idea
of racism would have been to get rid of them
after one of those seasons, after maybe even the first
season of of losing and and basically moving on from
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him for for him doing what they wanted him to do.
That's that's the epitome of what you would say is racism.
But if you're saying that you gave me three more
years like and an extension to lose these games, then
that isn't racism. That's you supported the plan. Yeah, I
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had a plan, you executed the plan, you were rewarded
for it at secuting the plan. So I don't again,
I think that him coming out and being supportive of
the claim that Flora has made, I don't think that
that Hugh was definitely or or making it a point
about it being all about racism. I think he was
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looking at it from the practices approach of of how
some of these things are done. Sometimes it's just more
about creating the validity of it versus trying to to
totally match all of it together. I would assume, Okay,
not otherwise why I come out and even say it,
because it is if you're trying to claim it's racism
and you're you're supportive of what Floras is saying, that
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is a crazy contradiction. We we all acknowledge that that
teams tank, right, And I don't know if tanks are
right word, but we acknowledge a teams maybe aren't focused
on the present, but they're focused on the future. And
I think that's where then you have to sort of
just decide what were they doing that was impact act
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in the future. If if Hugh Jackson made mention of
this in his interview where he said, you know, we
had the youngest roster in the NFL, I don't know
how having the youngest roster in the NFL means equates
to wins. Well, maybe they were trying to cut cap
to your point, Brady, and try and get rid of
all the contracts, tear it all down and build it
back up. I don't know that like him being given
a contract because they're showing patients in him even though
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they're one and thirty one. I don't know how that's
considered a bribe. I don't know. I don't know how
you make that, because if that's the case, I wonder
how many other organizations around, not just the NFL, the
world of sports could say, oh, yeah, well, apparently I
was given a bribe because I was still paid my
full contract and then given an extra year because we
were a bad team. I don't I don't understand. It's
the exact opposite of what have with Brian Flores. If
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the accusation or the allegation is that Brian Flores wouldn't
tank in his first year, they didn't get Joe Burrow,
they got a quarterback that you know, Chris Career still
wanted or Stephen Ross still wanted and he wasn't comfortable
with which how he handled him, meaning him in too ah,
you know, his rookie year like this this past season.
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It makes a lot of sense if you connect the
dots how he handled that whole situation. But if he's
claiming he got fired because of that, and if he
had to fall out with Stephen Ross because of not
taking the bribe not tanking, it's the exact opposite then
of what Hugh Jackson's claiming in his clip because he
got the extension. Now, he eventually got fired or got canned,
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but it seemed like there was a lot of other
infighting and things going on between him, Greg Williams and
and all the other parties. Wanted the job. I mean,
let's be clear about that. Craig wanted the job, so
and and and the situation with with Hugh, I mean,
at some point you gotta start winning. I mean they
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and and they they you know they did not start
to win while he was there. Again, I think he
was just trying to confirm that. Well, from my perspective,
it's happened with me. But you can't take what you
said and turn that into this now confirms that racism
was involved. And I think that that's the original point here.
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And and so if you're using if you're using this
the admission of of what what took place from from
coach Jackson, then you're using it purely to prove the
point that it does happen. So if you're using that
as your proof, uh, in your case. But again now
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it still comes back to for me, and I'll continue
to say this, what do you hope like them reporting
that this is he's a fighter, he's gonna fight it.
Like he could have just took the money and walked
away this that and other. What is your ultimate end?
What is your ultimate goal in this? Because I'm still
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not clear, Like if you get that settlement, if you
get a pay day off of this, was that what
it was worth? Is that is that is that Ultimately,
what you wanted is to be compensated for how you
felt you were treated and how things were handled, because
that's your your suing for a reward. You're you're you
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want to be awarded for what took place. So is
that your ultimate end? Because to me, I just feel
like there are there are blurred lines in terms of
the approach to all of this, and I would just
like to understand where it's coming from. That's that's all, Like,
what is your ultimate end from the the bribe as
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we can call it? That Apparently, Brian Flores says that
he has proof of that Stephen Ross is offering him
a hundred thousand dollars, even if he was offering him
a hundred thousand dollars to lose games, all right, As players,
I mean, you're you're not gonna go out there and
just half asset to lose a bunch of games because
there's no guarantees you're gonna get be back next see,
and there's no guarantees as players you're gonna get any
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of that hundred thousand dollars. So even if he like,
even if he does offer him a hundred thousand dollars
to lose games. How can that impact whether or not
a team wins or loses games. I still think it's
it's a valid point. However, it doesn't matter when it
comes down to whether or not a chord, an arbor,
or a judge or someone would see it as bribery.
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It doesn't have to be successful in order for it
to be considered a bribe. And that's the problem with this.
It still breaks a law if there's intent there, and
if there's documentation of that intent, whether it's correspondence, text
messages as I believe you heard, or an eye witness
account that will speak on the record, then it doesn't matter.
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As as long as they have evidence to prove this.
You then look at up being a bribery charge, which
becomes a bigger issue. So I understand what you're saying,
because that was my first thought was what was a player?
I don't give a crap If my coach is, you know,
telling me to take I can't afford to do that
because the reality is, if you're a bad football team,
not only is he not gonna have a job next year,
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you might not even so you've got to play well enough.
But the truth is, it doesn't matter when it comes
to the legalities of what this bribe would essentially mean
for Steven Ross or potentially Jimmy has them, even though
again none of what Hugh Jackson saying really makes sense
in regards to help in his case. It almost contradicts
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what happened with Floors and his experience as compared to Hughes. Yeah.
I mean, because he's trying to make it seem like
it was racism that played a part and why he
was being told to take I mean, if I'm trying
to interpret it the way that he's trying it's trying
to be presented, right is would that be would that
be safe to assume that you're trying to you're trying
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to make it appear that racism, like him being a
black coach, is why they wanted to games, right, Well,
I mean yeah, I mean that's that's that's what it is.
And then and then if we go down that road,
Gus Bradley was kept around in Jacksonville for a long
time and they were awful, and they were bad and
bad and bad, and he kept coming back and kept
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coming back, and finally Jacksonville decided all right. Similar with
Hugh Jackson, at some point, we got a lot of
top draft picks here, we got to start winning games,
and then he was out the door. So yeah, I
don't I don't think if anything, Hugh Jackson sort of
made a little bit more confusing, and he smeared you
confirm what what Floras is saying to be true, but
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you're basically going you're contradicting or or going against the
fact that, all right, well, they didn't get rid of me.
In fact, they rewarded me with an extension. Steve wilkeson
Arizona is an interesting one because he was there a
year and it wasn't an ideal situation, and he you know,
Josh Rosen was a rookie quarterback and they gave him
a year and and and fired him and then brought
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in Cliff Kingsbury and drafted Kyler mur He said, there
were any coach out there right now that could claim
they felt like there was racism involved with how they
were treated and handled into situation, it would be COLLI
like to me, he would be the one that you
would say, I would like to know what he has
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to say, because you were put in the worst scenario
that a first time head coach could be put in
and that's an organization with that, and it's back. You
tried your darndest to try to figure this thing out
with with what they gave you, and and you were rewarded,
rewarded with being fired. That could be to me, I
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would be interested in what his experience was. But with
this Flora's situation again, because it's the racial card, people
are gonna listen and and it's going to be entertained
and it's going to be vetted out. I'm interested to
see how far it goes and what the ultimate end
is because it's just not clear. It's not clear. It's
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kind of all over the place if you ask me.
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fs ARE. So we talked about the the Jim Harbaugh
SAUGA earlier in the show, just sort of the whatever
the hell is happening where Jim Harbaugh was reportedly and
there were reports out there based out of I think
it was the Wolverine dot com or ann Arbor dot
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net or one of those UH fan sites out there,
where Jim Harbaugh was going to Minnesota. Uh, he was.
It's basically a foregone conclusion he was going to sign
with the Vikings and be their new head coach. As
it turns out that was not the case. Other reports
came out and said there was a maybe some confusion
about whether or not Harbaugh was thinking he already had
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the job. Minnesota apparently didn't offer him the job, and
so he left there and then told Michigan that he
was going back there. He was not taking the Minnesota
Vikings job. So the question is, wasn't the right move
if the job was offered to Jim Harbaugh? Did he
make the right move going back to Michigan or should
he have taken the Minnesota Vikings job? What what is
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the right move in your guy's mind for Jim Harbor?
What would be the smart move going back to Michigan.
I don't really know how you could compare the two,
not knowing you know what's behind the closed doors, and
I don't know what was being offered or talked about
Minnesota all things. And that's why, but that's why I
going back to Michigan. Is is the right answer? Is
because we don't know all of the information as to
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why he chose to close that door. Yeah, but you
don't know if he's going to receive any additional benefits
or reassurances from Michigan. That's what I wonder, because I
haven't seen that anywhere that they bumped his But he chose,
but he chose to go back to Michigan. He didn't
take the job in Minnesota. Well no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. There's a theory that whatever happened yesterday
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afternoon that maybe it was the Vikings who said, okay,
let's you know, kind of go our separate ways, and
Hardbaugh got word out for study wasn't going there, so
it wouldn't look like he got turned down since it
was so public he was meeting with them. So I
don't think you should go and say, well, he chose Michigan,
because I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think,
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you know, there was there was an opportunity there and
at some point of broke apart for whatever reason. But
the reality is this is a day and age now
where you look at the n I L and the
competition in recruiting, and look, we we know Ohio State
is going to put a bunch of resources and assets
into it. You know, they've been outward about it, some
of their alumni have been outward about it. We haven't
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heard quite as much from Michigan. Now. They do have
a thing called Valiant where their their players can go
and make money for their n I L. You know
from that, but you know, it doesn't sound like it
compares as well as what Ohio State has or even
some of these SEC schools. Whether jimbo Offisher wants to
admit it or not, the whole thing is just weird
how it all played out, because people thought in Minnesota
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was weird. Now there was the relationship that he that
he had with a Dopha Menza, the GM in Minnesota
from his time in San Francisco, but it seemed like
it came out of nowhere. And the fact that Minnesota
already had somebody in line, and that report came out
right after the Harbors stuff. The fact that you know,
Kevin O'Connell is basically the guy that's reportedly going to
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get hired after the Rams Super Bowl, the Rams offensive coordinator,
leads me to believe that maybe Minnesota was like, uh,
we're not quite sure. We'll take the interview, will sit
with him, we'll talk with him. But it's just there's
something that doesn't add up through them. So you're saying
they might have already been feeling like they're going to
hire someone else before they did the interview with like, like,
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I want to make sure you're clear on this, Yeah,
if you and Brady wanted to weigh in on that.
So what you're saying is there's a possibility, there's a
strong possibility that they may already have a coach that
they really really want over over Horror Hardball. That's that's
what you're just saying. Is that possible? Brady? Uh, Yeah,
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that's possible. So okay, alright, well maybe we should hit
the races button. Maybe maybe they're being racist against Hardball
in this moment because they're I mean, it's a sham, Yeah,
there were, It's a sham of of an interview. If
they already have someone that they feel like they want
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to hire already, can not we obviously we're still in
the Flora's topic and this discussion. One of the things
I didn't really understand about all this is is Patrick Graham,
who's the defensive court in there, the courdenitor with the
you know, New York Giants, who was also up for
the Vikings job along with Rheim Morris as the other
minority candidate. Um he had already satisfied the Rooty rule
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for the New York Giants, so he interviewed, if I'm
not mistake, and reportedly interviewed on the twenty six of January.
So one of the details of of all this that
I don't really understand, and I'm not sure anyone's talked about,
was if if it was just Brian Flores going up
to satisfy the Rooney rule. And I believe his interview
is on Thursday, which would have been I think is
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a second interview, sure, but but I guess the point
is is why would you interview Patrick Graham or why,
you know, why would you take the time to interview
him a second time unless there was legitimate interest. I
know there's a text message from Bill Belichick, but you
know that doesn't necessarily mean that they told Bill Brian
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Dable was for sure getting the job. He just might
have been the one that they talked to about and
vetted about when they were going through their research of
the candidates. I mean, maybe they didn't need to go
to Bill Belichick to vet Brian Flores, maybe they felt
like they had enough on him or whatever the case
may have been. Like, that's one of the things I
don't really understand is, you know, people were kind of
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acting like, what it was only Brian Flores as a
minority candidate for the Giant's job. That that's that's not
the truth, that's not the case. And also from a
sham interview standpoint, if they already knew they were hiring
Brian day Ball, then shouldn't Dan Quinn feel like he
got shammed because he also I could care less about that.
You said that yesterday. The other thing is answer Brian Flores,
and you knew that, and you thought that was it
was a sham, why would you go That's the thing
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to me. If you're a man of principle, you're saying
you're a man of principle, why why you even go
take the interview if you feel like it's a sham
or you feel you know, humiliated in all the other
terms that were you. My whole thing is again, the
reason why I just pointed that out to to you know,
to you Jonas and to you Brady, is I just
found that to be interesting. If you're listening to what
you're saying. You go take the interview, because it's not
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over until it's over. It's not done until it's done.
I think we just experience that with it's not over
until So is the Houston job in the New Orleans job?
Who I think Brian Flores is up for both? Is
that still in the mixing? You can't. I can't assume.
There's no way you could assume that those jobs still
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be in the mix. There's no way, Like what now
he's gonna get announced as the new head coach of
the Houston Texans while suing the National Football League over
discrimination and racism. Uh, In terms of the hiring process,
I I can't see how that would work out. But again,
the idea of taking an interview and being a part
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of the interviewing process and trying to get a gig,
it comes down to this. You keep putting your best
foot forward until they tell you you have the job
or somebody else got it. That's how it works in
the workforce. You put your best foot forward. You guys
did how many years of radio five on the weekends
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until you got to this point? I did weekends. I
didn't have a weekday show I did weekends. I put
my hat in into the conversation of I love to
work with with guys like Brady and Jonas. I I
put my hat in there. I'm gonna put my best
foot forward. If they told me now we're gonna go
with Brady and and Jonas, that's we feel good about that.
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That doesn't mean that I gotta jump off into all
of these wild tangents. They might say, you know what,
they've put five years in together, They've put the time,
and we trust them. They have a great chemistry. I mean,
there were a lot of questions coming into doing our show,
like what's their chemistry gonna be? Like? How is the
show going to sound? What does this look like? Right?
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The bottom line is we got an opportunity to do it,
and we're doing it now. We we were. We have
a morning show, and we make make it work. If
if one of us doesn't get chosen for the job,
it doesn't necessarily have to be anything else other than
the simple reality of they wanted somebody else. Like Like,
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the bottom line is when when I met my chick
and I thought for two for for for well more
than two minutes, but I just didn't think that I
was her type of guy, right, I shot my shot.
I couldn't believe it worked. Still to this day, don't
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believe that it worked. But it did. And you know what,
I was chosen for the job. If she went in
a different direction, if her personal preferences did not fit
or match what I represented or what I brought to
the table, all I can do is accept that that's
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what the situation called for and continue to to look
for opportunities where I can put my best foot forward
again least I checked. That's what you call the American way.
That's you. You have an opportunity to take it and
do it somewhere else they may have done. Brian Floor
has a favor. There's a possibility them not choosing him
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and wanting him. It's not about humiliating him, it's not
about making it racial. In essence, it's about them doing
you a favor because maybe the situation they were bringing
you in wasn't going to be the best situation for
you anyway, So focus in on where the best situation
for you is going to be at that moment in
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time that's now in your rear view, that's now under
the bridge. If they didn't want you. They didn't want you.
You're not gonna go Why Why am I go running
around and they didn't want me. There's a problem, Like
na Bro, it's not always. It's not always. It doesn't
always play out that way. It seems like the Belichick
text was really by and he made made mention of
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it that it really was humiliating that Belichick thought he was,
you know, talking to Brian Davis. You can't make a mistake.
That is, as Brian Flores, you can't make the mistake. Look,
we interviewed this true story. I was filling in for
Doug Gottlieb on a show and Isaiah Thomas was one
of the guests, and he came on the air and said, oh,
I thought I was gonna be talking to Doug Gottlieb
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And I said, yeah, we thought we were gonna be
talking to I was like, yeah, well we thought we
were gonna be talking to Joe Dumars. So it's I'm
just like, it's something like it happens sometimes people make mistakes,
but I don't know that it's the most consulting thing
in the world that like, I mean, well, he comes
on the air and basically humiliates mean, good point. I'd
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rather talk to Govin Doug anyways. But like the the
idea that because he confused Brian's in his phone and
all of a sudden it goes in this direction, like
that felt like it really, I mean, that's the thing
about it. You don't have to be if he made
the mistake. Oh that's my bed, you made the mistake,
you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't have to
be any there's so like when it really matters, it
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really matters, Like when it's really prejudice and it's racism
and it it happens, and it's it's happening in a
very very malicious way. It's happening, and it should be addressed.
But that isn't always what it is. I'm sorry, Like
I'm always shoot from the head. That isn't always what
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it is. And and sometimes to get the impact that
you're seeking, if you're one that that really really lives
for social change and and improvement and and getting ahead,
you gotta understand that there if you're looking at every
single thing and calling it this and calling it that,
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you take away the impact of when it really is that.
So I'm not saying that this isn't what it really
is for Flora's because I don't know his scenario from
from what I know. But if I'm looking at it
from the standpoint of in the total whole of everything
that that takes place in terms of workplace environment and
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how it's treated and how you hire and how you
go about race relations and different things like that. We
have to be and when I say we, we as
as as minorities, we have to be aware of of
when and where and how this all works as well.
We have to educate ourselves on how the game works
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as well. You gotta play the game to win. So
if you're gonna put something out there like that, just
make sure and maybe it's gonna come out. Just maybe,
like you said earlier, Brady, he's taking this to court,
he must have some type of information. Maybe that information
is going to come out. I just hope for the
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sake of how this represents minority communities that it is
what he's saying it is, because that makes it that
much more difficult, not just on him, it makes it
time much more difficult on other minorities. So that's that's
the idea of it. I do think it's gonna be
interesting though to see, you know what other coaches would
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join in on the class action lawsuit, and and partly
because again Hugh actions and very outspoken about his time
in Cleveland. And I just wonder if they're gonna be like, no, man,
you're actually a kind of contradicting what we're trying to
stay here, like you know what, what's what? What occurred there?
What happened actually as contradicting our point, Like Brian ended
up getting fired because you wouldn't comply with that strategy,
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you know, to tank or take that brought you actually
took it at least admittedly and were rewarded reward. I
do wonder if they're like, no, man, like that's that's
gonna miss this whole thing up, Like, we appreciate you
being outspoken about it, but we're gonna have to go
in different directions out there now. You know, it's so
funny about the Brian Forest thing too, when people go,
my god, he was the best coach that Dolphins had
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had and blah, dude, he had literally the exact almost
virtually the exact same record as Adam Gaze, except Gaye
went to the playoffs. Like, so let's like let's not
pretend like all of a sudden, you know, he was
Vince Lombardi and he got canned. Like come on, I mean,
it wasn't like they were this great football team. I
mean they were one in seven they started the year.
It's like, you know, there's there's a lot more to it.
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I mean, look, there is something to be said for
the way that they didn't fight back. But yeah, it's
funny you say that he finished up Adam Cases record
there was twenty and Joe Philbin was right around the
same record before those guys. So it's not like this
is just all of a sudden, this is the first
time they've ever fired a coach like this. No, we've
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like this has happened, like this is what Stephen Ross
has done. Joe phil It's just like the same thing.
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do we got, b Q. Let's start off with some
fun ones. All right, we've got a Florida man. Got
to start off with the Florida man. He's out there
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magnet fishing. I'm not sure if you guys have ever
done that before. Typically you're used to seeing those guys
with the with the metal detectors on the beach right
in the headphones, walking around looking for jewelry and loose change. Well, fairly,
there's a magnet fishing and he went out with his grandson.
Well he he reeled into sniper rifles. And yes, that's
not a type of fish. He reeled in two sniper
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rifles that he found in the ocean. Wow, I mean okay, now, now,
so this is in Florida. Was this in any particular fingerprints? Would?
I can't reveal where it was at a forensic somebody
about to go to jail to sniper I mean, why
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would why would sniper rifles end up in the ocean
because they need to get a body magnet, like fishing
body magnets, dexter. Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody go go
what a thousand feet away? It feels like a scene
of Ray Donovan, like some people hold onto center blocks
trying to swim right. Yeah, I mean some sniper rifles.
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That's uh. Which, by the way, I encourage you to
check out the Oliver Stone JFK documentary. Wow Wow, Okay,
moving on, Um, A New Jersey Man, I don't want
to make sure I emphasize this, and I think Jonas
will know where I'm going. A New Jersey man pleads
guilty to fraud. Yes, he was selling fake Tom Brady
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Family Super Bowl rings. I mean I remember, remember Jonas,
He's a New Jersey man, so he's essentially selling fake memorabilia.
You wouldn't particularly know who this could could be, would you. Okay,
let me just think. Um. I mean, like, just based
on the description, it sounds like the guy's name would
start with an e UM and a short name like
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an e Van Eli Eli manning all the rebel possibility.
I mean it's on his resume. I mean, you know
he has sold fake merchandise before. But don't worry about that.
Disappeared quickly. You know, that just sort of disappeared out
of the blue. Just no more story. It's weird that works.
You know that the pull those guys got, um so
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Tom Brady's family they each get a super Bowl ring?
Like what I mean? I guess that's what this guy
was selling. I mean, I have no idea of this true.
LaVar's that shrewd? Do they does the whole family get
super Bowl rings? And they get super Bowl rings? How
would no? Okay, how would though? I don't not think
the wives do. I don't think the whole family. Let
me ask you, guys this, If you'd want a super
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Bowl how many members of your family would have gotten
a ring? That's my wife, But it wouldn't have been
a ring they do the Brady That's the correct answer.
Nobody should get one, just you guys. She can wear it,
she could put it on, but she could get one.
I think they made they made a deal where the
(35:12):
face of the super Bowl ring goes on a necklace.
It's like a charm. How many members of the family
are getting a college Football Hall of Fame ring. Well,
I mean, if I had a choice, my wife would
get one and she wasn't even there. And let me
tell you something, if but if I didn't have that
college football career, I probably wouldn't have her right, Well,
(35:36):
thank you college football career. I'll say this right now,
if I ever make the Fox Sports Radio Hall of Fame,
my wife's not getting a damn thing. Sing yourselfish, Probably not. Yeah,
I don't know, share your award. The Bengals, who are
a team playing in the Super Bowl, very proud organist. Yeah,
they'll be practicing indoors this week. The only issue is
(35:56):
they don't have an indoor facility. Um, they will be
practicing at the University of Cincinnati that does have an
indoor stadium. Uh kind of odd, right like that. You're
an NFL franchise. You can't build some sort of indoor
facility to not practice in the frigid cole this week
is my entire career, you know, I was outside of college.
I mean, of course we had indoor facility in college.
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We just didn't have any in the NFL. You know,
I didn't make any said I remember when they opened
up the season a couple of years ago, the Bengals,
and it was like the first day of training camp
and they went to Dayton to practice and the surface
was so bad that A J. Green suffered an injury
and was really never the same in Cincinnati. And it
got me to thinking, if you're A J. Green, are
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you looking at the Bengals right now and going you
gotta be kidding me all the crap I went through
and now I'm sure there's a lot of Bangals gotta
be right. Yeah, Yeah, I'm interested to hear with. But
t J has been a fan and a supporter and
he's been picking them the entire way. And I was like,
you're being a Homer and it's playing out well for you.
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I'm waiting to see if it's going to run out.
It might not run out on him for a while,
picked against him this year on New show. I don't think,
so good for him. It's been right alive, Alright. I
don't want this one. I've been sitting on for a
little while. I didn't want to. I don't want to
get political, but it's it's it's laughable at this point.
So there's a few politicians in the state of California
(37:20):
who've gotten in trouble for going to the NFC Championship game.
And let's just say it being a little hypocritical. All right,
you're San Francisco Mayor London Breed, l A Mayor Eric Garcetti,
and then of course our our favorite governor Gavin K. Newsome. Uh.
And it's just it's only because, look, they were photographed
numerous times not wearing masks. Even though it's a ton
(37:42):
of mass mandates. It's really more of what they said
after the fact, once they started getting pressure from the media.
For example, the mayor of l A, Eric Garcetti, says
he held his breath for the maskless photos with Magic Johnson,
so there's no chance he could possibly get COVID. And
then there's some claimed that he was very judicious and
held held us mask in his hand while all the
(38:04):
photos were being taken, even though other photos and video
would document otherwise. I held, I held my breath. That
that's the that's the compos the politician way. I mean,
can anybody at some point just acknowledge the charades that
are going on? Super dumb slice bread is the best
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o'clock Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio. So a couple
of topics that are floating around the world of the enniment, which,
by the way, the Super Bowl is coming up a
little over a week from now, if anybody cares, so
that would be happening. But the the Brian Flores sagas
continuing on, we talked about just sort of the implications
and just you know, the the racial impact that it's
(01:21):
having and those conversations that have gone on. Uh. The
other portion of this is the claims that Steven Ross,
the owner of the Dolphins, was offering him a hundred
thousand dollars for losses back in two thousand nineteen. Reports
say that there is proof of this. Steven Ross has
denied it, so we wait to see how that all
plays out. And then Hugh Jackson, UH, the former Brown's
(01:42):
head coach. Uh, he alluded to being rewarded for losses
while in Cleveland, which if that's the case, he's probably
a multi multi, multi multibillionaire at this point because they
did a lot of losing. And Hugh Jackson was on
ESPN yesterday talking about his claims specifically, I wasn't offered
a hundred thousand dollars for every game, but there was
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a substantial amount of money made within you know what
happened in the situation every year at the end of it,
no coach takes a job to lose, and I think
people understand that you take jobs to win. Your contract
says wins, you don't get paid for losing. And then
here I am, after being one in thirty one, I'm
kept the third year and given a contract extension that
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nobody knew. So that should tell everybody something right there.
Why do you keep a coach who's one in thirty
one when your track record has been to get rid
of coaches? How does that support though racism? I it
doesn't that counter doesn't that actually be counter to that?
Is it? If if if you were so bad, were
you win what one in thirty one, that then you
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got an extension? I just I don't. I wonder is
there a confusion over being rewarded. I think there's a
little bit of confusion to every thing that's out there.
There's there's the discussion point of being rewarded for for
throwing games, losing games, which, guys, it's a bribe. Let's
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call it what it is. That that's what the legal
term is for it. And so if he's saying he's
being bribed and do signing up for what he initially
signed for, because that's where he contradicts himself. Everyone knew
when Paul de Podesta got hired by the Cleveland Browns
the direction they were going to go, and Hugh Jackson
signed up for that. The all those guys who were
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part of that signed up for that. They were going
to tank, accumulate draft picks and build up their salary
cap space. That's what they did, and it was so
they then could you know, get to a point where
they were competitive like we saw a year ago and
even this year to a degree. The reality is Hugh
Jackson signed up for that. He couldn't have ended up,
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you know, being hired for that job and listening to
them have this plan and not go, well, I don't
want to be a part of this. I mean, he
signed up for it. So I don't really understand how
him saying that he got an extension after going through
that but then subsequently got fired, how that proves anything.
It almost contradicts what he's trying to say. Well, I
(04:14):
think he proves the point of confirmation. Yeah, but because
because I mean, but again, to me, racism, the idea
of racism would have been to get rid of them
after one of those seasons, after maybe even the first
season of of losing and and basically moving on from
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him for for him doing what they wanted him to do.
That's that's the epitome of what you would say is racism.
But if you're saying that you gave me three more
years like and an extension to lose these games, then
that isn't racism. That's you supported the plan. Yeah, I
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had a plan, you executed the plan, you were rewarded
for it at secuting the plan. So I don't again,
I think that him coming out and being supportive of
the claim that Flora has made, I don't think that
that Hugh was definitely or or making it a point
about it being all about racism. I think he was
(05:16):
looking at it from the practices approach of of how
some of these things are done. Sometimes it's just more
about creating the validity of it versus trying to to
totally match all of it together. I would assume, Okay,
not otherwise why I come out and even say it,
because it is if you're trying to claim it's racism
and you're you're supportive of what Floras is saying, that
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is a crazy contradiction. We we all acknowledge that that
teams tank, right, And I don't know if tanks are
right word, but we acknowledge a teams maybe aren't focused
on the present, but they're focused on the future. And
I think that's where then you have to sort of
just decide what were they doing that was impact act
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in the future. If if Hugh Jackson made mention of
this in his interview where he said, you know, we
had the youngest roster in the NFL, I don't know
how having the youngest roster in the NFL means equates
to wins. Well, maybe they were trying to cut cap
to your point, Brady, and try and get rid of
all the contracts, tear it all down and build it
back up. I don't know that like him being given
a contract because they're showing patients in him even though
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they're one and thirty one. I don't know how that's
considered a bribe. I don't know. I don't know how
you make that, because if that's the case, I wonder
how many other organizations around, not just the NFL, the
world of sports could say, oh, yeah, well, apparently I
was given a bribe because I was still paid my
full contract and then given an extra year because we
were a bad team. I don't I don't understand. It's
the exact opposite of what have with Brian Flores. If
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the accusation or the allegation is that Brian Flores wouldn't
tank in his first year, they didn't get Joe Burrow,
they got a quarterback that you know, Chris Career still
wanted or Stephen Ross still wanted and he wasn't comfortable
with which how he handled him, meaning him in too ah,
you know, his rookie year like this this past season.
(07:05):
It makes a lot of sense if you connect the
dots how he handled that whole situation. But if he's
claiming he got fired because of that, and if he
had to fall out with Stephen Ross because of not
taking the bribe not tanking, it's the exact opposite then
of what Hugh Jackson's claiming in his clip because he
got the extension. Now, he eventually got fired or got canned,
(07:27):
but it seemed like there was a lot of other
infighting and things going on between him, Greg Williams and
and all the other parties. Wanted the job. I mean,
let's be clear about that. Craig wanted the job, so
and and and the situation with with Hugh, I mean,
at some point you gotta start winning. I mean they
(07:51):
and and they they you know they did not start
to win while he was there. Again, I think he
was just trying to confirm that. Well, from my perspective,
it's happened with me. But you can't take what you
said and turn that into this now confirms that racism
was involved. And I think that that's the original point here.
(08:13):
And and so if you're using if you're using this
the admission of of what what took place from from
coach Jackson, then you're using it purely to prove the
point that it does happen. So if you're using that
as your proof, uh, in your case. But again now
(08:35):
it still comes back to for me, and I'll continue
to say this, what do you hope like them reporting
that this is he's a fighter, he's gonna fight it.
Like he could have just took the money and walked
away this that and other. What is your ultimate end?
What is your ultimate goal in this? Because I'm still
(08:58):
not clear, Like if you get that settlement, if you
get a pay day off of this, was that what
it was worth? Is that is that is that Ultimately,
what you wanted is to be compensated for how you
felt you were treated and how things were handled, because
that's your your suing for a reward. You're you're you
(09:20):
want to be awarded for what took place. So is
that your ultimate end? Because to me, I just feel
like there are there are blurred lines in terms of
the approach to all of this, and I would just
like to understand where it's coming from. That's that's all, Like,
what is your ultimate end from the the bribe as
(09:41):
we can call it? That Apparently, Brian Flores says that
he has proof of that Stephen Ross is offering him
a hundred thousand dollars, even if he was offering him
a hundred thousand dollars to lose games, all right, As players,
I mean, you're you're not gonna go out there and
just half asset to lose a bunch of games because
there's no guarantees you're gonna get be back next see,
and there's no guarantees as players you're gonna get any
(10:02):
of that hundred thousand dollars. So even if he like,
even if he does offer him a hundred thousand dollars
to lose games. How can that impact whether or not
a team wins or loses games. I still think it's
it's a valid point. However, it doesn't matter when it
comes down to whether or not a chord, an arbor,
or a judge or someone would see it as bribery.
(10:23):
It doesn't have to be successful in order for it
to be considered a bribe. And that's the problem with this.
It still breaks a law if there's intent there, and
if there's documentation of that intent, whether it's correspondence, text
messages as I believe you heard, or an eye witness
account that will speak on the record, then it doesn't matter.
(10:46):
As as long as they have evidence to prove this.
You then look at up being a bribery charge, which
becomes a bigger issue. So I understand what you're saying,
because that was my first thought was what was a player?
I don't give a crap If my coach is, you know,
telling me to take I can't afford to do that
because the reality is, if you're a bad football team,
not only is he not gonna have a job next year,
(11:08):
you might not even so you've got to play well enough.
But the truth is, it doesn't matter when it comes
to the legalities of what this bribe would essentially mean
for Steven Ross or potentially Jimmy has them, even though
again none of what Hugh Jackson saying really makes sense
in regards to help in his case. It almost contradicts
(11:32):
what happened with Floors and his experience as compared to Hughes. Yeah.
I mean, because he's trying to make it seem like
it was racism that played a part and why he
was being told to take I mean, if I'm trying
to interpret it the way that he's trying it's trying
to be presented, right is would that be would that
be safe to assume that you're trying to you're trying
(11:52):
to make it appear that racism, like him being a
black coach, is why they wanted to games, right, Well,
I mean yeah, I mean that's that's that's what it is.
And then and then if we go down that road,
Gus Bradley was kept around in Jacksonville for a long
time and they were awful, and they were bad and
bad and bad, and he kept coming back and kept
(12:14):
coming back, and finally Jacksonville decided all right. Similar with
Hugh Jackson, at some point, we got a lot of
top draft picks here, we got to start winning games,
and then he was out the door. So yeah, I
don't I don't think if anything, Hugh Jackson sort of
made a little bit more confusing, and he smeared you
confirm what what Floras is saying to be true, but
(12:35):
you're basically going you're contradicting or or going against the
fact that, all right, well, they didn't get rid of me.
In fact, they rewarded me with an extension. Steve wilkeson
Arizona is an interesting one because he was there a
year and it wasn't an ideal situation, and he you know,
Josh Rosen was a rookie quarterback and they gave him
a year and and and fired him and then brought
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in Cliff Kingsbury and drafted Kyler mur He said, there
were any coach out there right now that could claim
they felt like there was racism involved with how they
were treated and handled into situation, it would be COLLI
like to me, he would be the one that you
would say, I would like to know what he has
(13:18):
to say, because you were put in the worst scenario
that a first time head coach could be put in
and that's an organization with that, and it's back. You
tried your darndest to try to figure this thing out
with with what they gave you, and and you were rewarded,
rewarded with being fired. That could be to me, I
(13:40):
would be interested in what his experience was. But with
this Flora's situation again, because it's the racial card, people
are gonna listen and and it's going to be entertained
and it's going to be vetted out. I'm interested to
see how far it goes and what the ultimate end
is because it's just not clear. It's not clear. It's
(14:01):
kind of all over the place if you ask me.
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fs ARE. So we talked about the the Jim Harbaugh
SAUGA earlier in the show, just sort of the whatever
the hell is happening where Jim Harbaugh was reportedly and
there were reports out there based out of I think
it was the Wolverine dot com or ann Arbor dot
(15:26):
net or one of those UH fan sites out there,
where Jim Harbaugh was going to Minnesota. Uh, he was.
It's basically a foregone conclusion he was going to sign
with the Vikings and be their new head coach. As
it turns out that was not the case. Other reports
came out and said there was a maybe some confusion
about whether or not Harbaugh was thinking he already had
(15:46):
the job. Minnesota apparently didn't offer him the job, and
so he left there and then told Michigan that he
was going back there. He was not taking the Minnesota
Vikings job. So the question is, wasn't the right move
if the job was offered to Jim Harbaugh? Did he
make the right move going back to Michigan or should
he have taken the Minnesota Vikings job? What what is
(16:08):
the right move in your guy's mind for Jim Harbor?
What would be the smart move going back to Michigan.
I don't really know how you could compare the two,
not knowing you know what's behind the closed doors, and
I don't know what was being offered or talked about
Minnesota all things. And that's why, but that's why I
going back to Michigan. Is is the right answer? Is
because we don't know all of the information as to
(16:29):
why he chose to close that door. Yeah, but you
don't know if he's going to receive any additional benefits
or reassurances from Michigan. That's what I wonder, because I
haven't seen that anywhere that they bumped his But he chose,
but he chose to go back to Michigan. He didn't
take the job in Minnesota. Well no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. There's a theory that whatever happened yesterday
(16:50):
afternoon that maybe it was the Vikings who said, okay,
let's you know, kind of go our separate ways, and
Hardbaugh got word out for study wasn't going there, so
it wouldn't look like he got turned down since it
was so public he was meeting with them. So I
don't think you should go and say, well, he chose Michigan,
because I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think,
(17:12):
you know, there was there was an opportunity there and
at some point of broke apart for whatever reason. But
the reality is this is a day and age now
where you look at the n I L and the
competition in recruiting, and look, we we know Ohio State
is going to put a bunch of resources and assets
into it. You know, they've been outward about it, some
of their alumni have been outward about it. We haven't
(17:32):
heard quite as much from Michigan. Now. They do have
a thing called Valiant where their their players can go
and make money for their n I L. You know
from that, but you know, it doesn't sound like it
compares as well as what Ohio State has or even
some of these SEC schools. Whether jimbo Offisher wants to
admit it or not, the whole thing is just weird
how it all played out, because people thought in Minnesota
(17:55):
was weird. Now there was the relationship that he that
he had with a Dopha Menza, the GM in Minnesota
from his time in San Francisco, but it seemed like
it came out of nowhere. And the fact that Minnesota
already had somebody in line, and that report came out
right after the Harbors stuff. The fact that you know,
Kevin O'Connell is basically the guy that's reportedly going to
(18:18):
get hired after the Rams Super Bowl, the Rams offensive coordinator,
leads me to believe that maybe Minnesota was like, uh,
we're not quite sure. We'll take the interview, will sit
with him, we'll talk with him. But it's just there's
something that doesn't add up through them. So you're saying
they might have already been feeling like they're going to
hire someone else before they did the interview with like, like,
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I want to make sure you're clear on this, Yeah,
if you and Brady wanted to weigh in on that.
So what you're saying is there's a possibility, there's a
strong possibility that they may already have a coach that
they really really want over over Horror Hardball. That's that's
what you're just saying. Is that possible? Brady? Uh, Yeah,
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that's possible. So okay, alright, well maybe we should hit
the races button. Maybe maybe they're being racist against Hardball
in this moment because they're I mean, it's a sham, Yeah,
there were, It's a sham of of an interview. If
they already have someone that they feel like they want
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to hire already, can not we obviously we're still in
the Flora's topic and this discussion. One of the things
I didn't really understand about all this is is Patrick Graham,
who's the defensive court in there, the courdenitor with the
you know, New York Giants, who was also up for
the Vikings job along with Rheim Morris as the other
minority candidate. Um he had already satisfied the Rooty rule
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for the New York Giants, so he interviewed, if I'm
not mistake, and reportedly interviewed on the twenty six of January.
So one of the details of of all this that
I don't really understand, and I'm not sure anyone's talked about,
was if if it was just Brian Flores going up
to satisfy the Rooney rule. And I believe his interview
is on Thursday, which would have been I think is
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a second interview, sure, but but I guess the point
is is why would you interview Patrick Graham or why,
you know, why would you take the time to interview
him a second time unless there was legitimate interest. I
know there's a text message from Bill Belichick, but you
know that doesn't necessarily mean that they told Bill Brian
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Dable was for sure getting the job. He just might
have been the one that they talked to about and
vetted about when they were going through their research of
the candidates. I mean, maybe they didn't need to go
to Bill Belichick to vet Brian Flores, maybe they felt
like they had enough on him or whatever the case
may have been. Like, that's one of the things I
don't really understand is, you know, people were kind of
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acting like, what it was only Brian Flores as a
minority candidate for the Giant's job. That that's that's not
the truth, that's not the case. And also from a
sham interview standpoint, if they already knew they were hiring
Brian day Ball, then shouldn't Dan Quinn feel like he
got shammed because he also I could care less about that.
You said that yesterday. The other thing is answer Brian Flores,
and you knew that, and you thought that was it
was a sham, why would you go That's the thing
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to me. If you're a man of principle, you're saying
you're a man of principle, why why you even go
take the interview if you feel like it's a sham
or you feel you know, humiliated in all the other
terms that were you. My whole thing is again, the
reason why I just pointed that out to to you know,
to you Jonas and to you Brady, is I just
found that to be interesting. If you're listening to what
you're saying. You go take the interview, because it's not
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over until it's over. It's not done until it's done.
I think we just experience that with it's not over
until So is the Houston job in the New Orleans job?
Who I think Brian Flores is up for both? Is
that still in the mixing? You can't. I can't assume.
There's no way you could assume that those jobs still
(22:00):
be in the mix. There's no way, Like what now
he's gonna get announced as the new head coach of
the Houston Texans while suing the National Football League over
discrimination and racism. Uh, In terms of the hiring process,
I I can't see how that would work out. But again,
the idea of taking an interview and being a part
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of the interviewing process and trying to get a gig,
it comes down to this. You keep putting your best
foot forward until they tell you you have the job
or somebody else got it. That's how it works in
the workforce. You put your best foot forward. You guys
did how many years of radio five on the weekends
(22:43):
until you got to this point? I did weekends. I
didn't have a weekday show I did weekends. I put
my hat in into the conversation of I love to
work with with guys like Brady and Jonas. I I
put my hat in there. I'm gonna put my best
foot forward. If they told me now we're gonna go
with Brady and and Jonas, that's we feel good about that.
(23:06):
That doesn't mean that I gotta jump off into all
of these wild tangents. They might say, you know what,
they've put five years in together, They've put the time,
and we trust them. They have a great chemistry. I mean,
there were a lot of questions coming into doing our show,
like what's their chemistry gonna be? Like? How is the
show going to sound? What does this look like? Right?
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The bottom line is we got an opportunity to do it,
and we're doing it now. We we were. We have
a morning show, and we make make it work. If
if one of us doesn't get chosen for the job,
it doesn't necessarily have to be anything else other than
the simple reality of they wanted somebody else. Like Like,
(23:52):
the bottom line is when when I met my chick
and I thought for two for for for well more
than two minutes, but I just didn't think that I
was her type of guy, right, I shot my shot.
I couldn't believe it worked. Still to this day, don't
(24:14):
believe that it worked. But it did. And you know what,
I was chosen for the job. If she went in
a different direction, if her personal preferences did not fit
or match what I represented or what I brought to
the table, all I can do is accept that that's
(24:35):
what the situation called for and continue to to look
for opportunities where I can put my best foot forward
again least I checked. That's what you call the American way.
That's you. You have an opportunity to take it and
do it somewhere else they may have done. Brian Floor
has a favor. There's a possibility them not choosing him
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and wanting him. It's not about humiliating him, it's not
about making it racial. In essence, it's about them doing
you a favor because maybe the situation they were bringing
you in wasn't going to be the best situation for
you anyway, So focus in on where the best situation
for you is going to be at that moment in
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time that's now in your rear view, that's now under
the bridge. If they didn't want you. They didn't want you.
You're not gonna go Why Why am I go running
around and they didn't want me. There's a problem, Like
na Bro, it's not always. It's not always. It doesn't
always play out that way. It seems like the Belichick
text was really by and he made made mention of
(25:42):
it that it really was humiliating that Belichick thought he was,
you know, talking to Brian Davis. You can't make a mistake.
That is, as Brian Flores, you can't make the mistake. Look,
we interviewed this true story. I was filling in for
Doug Gottlieb on a show and Isaiah Thomas was one
of the guests, and he came on the air and said, oh,
I thought I was gonna be talking to Doug Gottlieb
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And I said, yeah, we thought we were gonna be
talking to I was like, yeah, well we thought we
were gonna be talking to Joe Dumars. So it's I'm
just like, it's something like it happens sometimes people make mistakes,
but I don't know that it's the most consulting thing
in the world that like, I mean, well, he comes
on the air and basically humiliates mean, good point. I'd
(26:25):
rather talk to Govin Doug anyways. But like the the
idea that because he confused Brian's in his phone and
all of a sudden it goes in this direction, like
that felt like it really, I mean, that's the thing
about it. You don't have to be if he made
the mistake. Oh that's my bed, you made the mistake,
you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't have to
be any there's so like when it really matters, it
(26:47):
really matters, Like when it's really prejudice and it's racism
and it it happens, and it's it's happening in a
very very malicious way. It's happening, and it should be addressed.
But that isn't always what it is. I'm sorry, Like
I'm always shoot from the head. That isn't always what
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it is. And and sometimes to get the impact that
you're seeking, if you're one that that really really lives
for social change and and improvement and and getting ahead,
you gotta understand that there if you're looking at every
single thing and calling it this and calling it that,
(27:30):
you take away the impact of when it really is that.
So I'm not saying that this isn't what it really
is for Flora's because I don't know his scenario from
from what I know. But if I'm looking at it
from the standpoint of in the total whole of everything
that that takes place in terms of workplace environment and
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how it's treated and how you hire and how you
go about race relations and different things like that. We
have to be and when I say we, we as
as as minorities, we have to be aware of of
when and where and how this all works as well.
We have to educate ourselves on how the game works
(28:12):
as well. You gotta play the game to win. So
if you're gonna put something out there like that, just
make sure and maybe it's gonna come out. Just maybe,
like you said earlier, Brady, he's taking this to court,
he must have some type of information. Maybe that information
is going to come out. I just hope for the
(28:32):
sake of how this represents minority communities that it is
what he's saying it is, because that makes it that
much more difficult, not just on him, it makes it
time much more difficult on other minorities. So that's that's
the idea of it. I do think it's gonna be
interesting though to see, you know what other coaches would
(28:53):
join in on the class action lawsuit, and and partly
because again Hugh actions and very outspoken about his time
in Cleveland. And I just wonder if they're gonna be like, no, man,
you're actually a kind of contradicting what we're trying to
stay here, like you know what, what's what? What occurred there?
What happened actually as contradicting our point, Like Brian ended
up getting fired because you wouldn't comply with that strategy,
(29:16):
you know, to tank or take that brought you actually
took it at least admittedly and were rewarded reward. I
do wonder if they're like, no, man, like that's that's
gonna miss this whole thing up, Like, we appreciate you
being outspoken about it, but we're gonna have to go
in different directions out there now. You know, it's so
funny about the Brian Forest thing too, when people go,
my god, he was the best coach that Dolphins had
(29:37):
had and blah, dude, he had literally the exact almost
virtually the exact same record as Adam Gaze, except Gaye
went to the playoffs. Like, so let's like let's not
pretend like all of a sudden, you know, he was
Vince Lombardi and he got canned. Like come on, I mean,
it wasn't like they were this great football team. I
mean they were one in seven they started the year.
It's like, you know, there's there's a lot more to it.
(30:00):
I mean, look, there is something to be said for
the way that they didn't fight back. But yeah, it's
funny you say that he finished up Adam Cases record
there was twenty and Joe Philbin was right around the
same record before those guys. So it's not like this
is just all of a sudden, this is the first
time they've ever fired a coach like this. No, we've
(30:21):
like this has happened, like this is what Stephen Ross
has done. Joe phil It's just like the same thing.
Like so, but you know, hey, whatever, Two Pros and
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That'll be up shortly. But right now, it's time for
something we do on the show every single day, and
it's called this Turn on the Loose. Let's go to
the news desk. What here's Brady Quinn. Al Right, what
do we got, b Q. Let's start off with some
fun ones. All right, we've got a Florida man. Got
to start off with the Florida man. He's out there
(32:11):
magnet fishing. I'm not sure if you guys have ever
done that before. Typically you're used to seeing those guys
with the with the metal detectors on the beach right
in the headphones, walking around looking for jewelry and loose change. Well, fairly,
there's a magnet fishing and he went out with his grandson.
Well he he reeled into sniper rifles. And yes, that's
not a type of fish. He reeled in two sniper
(32:35):
rifles that he found in the ocean. Wow, I mean okay, now, now,
so this is in Florida. Was this in any particular fingerprints? Would?
I can't reveal where it was at a forensic somebody
about to go to jail to sniper I mean, why
(33:00):
would why would sniper rifles end up in the ocean
because they need to get a body magnet, like fishing
body magnets, dexter. Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody go go
what a thousand feet away? It feels like a scene
of Ray Donovan, like some people hold onto center blocks
trying to swim right. Yeah, I mean some sniper rifles.
(33:23):
That's uh. Which, by the way, I encourage you to
check out the Oliver Stone JFK documentary. Wow Wow, Okay,
moving on, Um, A New Jersey Man, I don't want
to make sure I emphasize this, and I think Jonas
will know where I'm going. A New Jersey man pleads
guilty to fraud. Yes, he was selling fake Tom Brady
(33:45):
Family Super Bowl rings. I mean I remember, remember Jonas,
He's a New Jersey man, so he's essentially selling fake memorabilia.
You wouldn't particularly know who this could could be, would you. Okay,
let me just think. Um. I mean, like, just based
on the description, it sounds like the guy's name would
start with an e UM and a short name like
(34:08):
an e Van Eli Eli manning all the rebel possibility.
I mean it's on his resume. I mean, you know
he has sold fake merchandise before. But don't worry about that.
Disappeared quickly. You know, that just sort of disappeared out
of the blue. Just no more story. It's weird that works.
You know that the pull those guys got, um so
(34:30):
Tom Brady's family they each get a super Bowl ring?
Like what I mean? I guess that's what this guy
was selling. I mean, I have no idea of this true.
LaVar's that shrewd? Do they does the whole family get
super Bowl rings? And they get super Bowl rings? How
would no? Okay, how would though? I don't not think
the wives do. I don't think the whole family. Let
me ask you, guys this, If you'd want a super
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Bowl how many members of your family would have gotten
a ring? That's my wife, But it wouldn't have been
a ring they do the Brady That's the correct answer.
Nobody should get one, just you guys. She can wear it,
she could put it on, but she could get one.
I think they made they made a deal where the
(35:12):
face of the super Bowl ring goes on a necklace.
It's like a charm. How many members of the family
are getting a college Football Hall of Fame ring. Well,
I mean, if I had a choice, my wife would
get one and she wasn't even there. And let me
tell you something, if but if I didn't have that
college football career, I probably wouldn't have her right, Well,
(35:36):
thank you college football career. I'll say this right now,
if I ever make the Fox Sports Radio Hall of Fame,
my wife's not getting a damn thing. Sing yourselfish, Probably not. Yeah,
I don't know, share your award. The Bengals, who are
a team playing in the Super Bowl, very proud organist. Yeah,
they'll be practicing indoors this week. The only issue is
(35:56):
they don't have an indoor facility. Um, they will be
practicing at the University of Cincinnati that does have an
indoor stadium. Uh kind of odd, right like that. You're
an NFL franchise. You can't build some sort of indoor
facility to not practice in the frigid cole this week
is my entire career, you know, I was outside of college.
I mean, of course we had indoor facility in college.
(36:17):
We just didn't have any in the NFL. You know,
I didn't make any said I remember when they opened
up the season a couple of years ago, the Bengals,
and it was like the first day of training camp
and they went to Dayton to practice and the surface
was so bad that A J. Green suffered an injury
and was really never the same in Cincinnati. And it
got me to thinking, if you're A J. Green, are
(36:37):
you looking at the Bengals right now and going you
gotta be kidding me all the crap I went through
and now I'm sure there's a lot of Bangals gotta
be right. Yeah, Yeah, I'm interested to hear with. But
t J has been a fan and a supporter and
he's been picking them the entire way. And I was like,
you're being a Homer and it's playing out well for you.
(37:00):
I'm waiting to see if it's going to run out.
It might not run out on him for a while,
picked against him this year on New show. I don't think,
so good for him. It's been right alive, Alright. I
don't want this one. I've been sitting on for a
little while. I didn't want to. I don't want to
get political, but it's it's it's laughable at this point.
So there's a few politicians in the state of California
(37:20):
who've gotten in trouble for going to the NFC Championship game.
And let's just say it being a little hypocritical. All right,
you're San Francisco Mayor London Breed, l A Mayor Eric Garcetti,
and then of course our our favorite governor Gavin K. Newsome. Uh.
And it's just it's only because, look, they were photographed
numerous times not wearing masks. Even though it's a ton
(37:42):
of mass mandates. It's really more of what they said
after the fact, once they started getting pressure from the media.
For example, the mayor of l A, Eric Garcetti, says
he held his breath for the maskless photos with Magic Johnson,
so there's no chance he could possibly get COVID. And
then there's some claimed that he was very judicious and
held held us mask in his hand while all the
(38:04):
photos were being taken, even though other photos and video
would document otherwise. I held, I held my breath. That
that's the that's the compos the politician way. I mean,
can anybody at some point just acknowledge the charades that
are going on? Super dumb slice bread is the best
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