July 5, 2024 • 42 mins
Brian Noe and Jason Martin (in for Brady, LaVar and Jonas) continue their conversation about Dak Prescott and other NFL quarterbacks before getting into a talk about a series of clips that have gone viral from HBO's Hard Knocks Offseason! What do the guys think about Joe Schoen's insistence on not paying Saquon Barkley, as well as his conscious emphasis on the offensive line? They close out the show with a funny story about Jaylen Brown losing a custom ring, and rewarding the fans who found it.
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all right, j mart So, I was thinking about this
with the honeymoon period for NFL quarterbacks right some currently
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the honeymoon is still going on where we just kind
of shrug our shoulders and we don't crush them if
they come up short. Other quarterbacks, there is no honeymoon
period in sight, not at all, And you were talking
the last hour about Dak Prescott. He's been in the news.
He was recently in a walking boot. He had a
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minor right foot sprain. But the walking boot is off
and he should be good to go. But I was
thinking about this, building off your topic where you're talking
about you could take any quarterback in the league other
than Patrick Mahomes to start your team.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Who are you going with?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And it just made me think of there's no honeymoon
period for Dak Prescott. But if you compare that to
a guy like Jordan Love, the Packers quarterback. What's funny
if you look at those two guys, Jason So Dak Prescott.
A couple of years ago, he threw two really bad
interceptions on the road against the forty nine Ers in
a playoff game, and he got crushed, and deservedly so
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Jordan Love. He had a good performance against the Cowboys.
They won that game in the playoffs, and then the
next game played pretty well against San Francisco until the
final minute when it mattered most, and he threw one
of the worst playoff interceptions I've ever seen, late across
his body over the middle of the field. Easy interception,
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gift wrapped it. Terrible decision, no pushback, no negativity because
he's still in the honeymoon period. So how long do
you think it's gonna take for Jordan Love in particular
C J. Stroud, We're all like, ah, man, these guys,
but the honeymoon period is going to end. How long
do you think it's gonna take?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think it depends on the individual and it depends
on the situation. When you look at Dak, I don't
think he I think there was honeymoon period for him
at the very beginning, but it ended quickly because it's
going to with the cowboys. With Jordan Love, I think
he did take a little bit of flack. But certainly
this is kind of the difference between the two circumstances,
right it happens to Jordan Love and the kind of
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talking point afterwards, He's just trying to make a play.
He's a young guy trying to make a play, as
opposed to gosh, what was he thinking? Where was he looking?
Dak Prescott does the exact same thing, and it's bomb overpaid.
You should let him go move on from him. Finally,
that just shows the difference in mentality and perspective. But again,
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this is somebody who was in his first season, in
his first postseason, and by all indicators, and I certainly
would say this, he certainly outperformed what I was expecting
him to do in his first year as a quarterback
of the Green Bay Packers. Why don't you talk about
a couple of guys that have been in the league
a little bit longer. I think the honeymoon period will
end for Justin Herbert this year if they struggle, and
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eventually Josh Allen's got to get to a super Bowl. Yeah,
I mean really like you've paid him the money and
the one thing that he has always had in front
of him to kind of deflect any negativity towards him
is his head coach. And guess what he still does.
And I think that I think eventually, if then we
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could have done this year, Sean mc durmott, probably you
have to. You have to start looking at doing something else.
But he's the one that still takes I think a
brunt of what's going on there, but I think that's
gonna be one. And then you look at a guy
who probably didn't really have any honeymoon, and anything he
does negative it's time to bench at Miss Brock party.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Mm hmm, yeah right. I think that a couple of
guys first off with Herbert. I think the honeymoon period
has been over. I think it officially was over when
they lost a playoff game to Jacksonville. And I wasn't
one of the people criticizing Herbert. He took a lot
of criticism after they lost that game. Remember they had
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the big lead, they were up I think it was
twenty seven to nothing, and they ended up losing the game,
and there was a lot of Herbert pushback where hey,
he puts up all these numbers, but you got to
close the deal. And it's like they were up twenty
seven to nothing, play some freaking defense, you know, get
a stop. It's way more on the defense than on Herbert.
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But he got criticized heavily for that, and that's one
of the indications where it's like, Okay, the honeymoon is
officially over. I think it's interesting with a couple of
young guys. I don't know if there was ever a
honeymoon period with Bryce Young, the Panthers starting quarterback. He
had a rough rookie season, and I don't think that
many gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't
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hear a whole lot of well, I mean, look at
the receivers around him, and give it a little bit
of time. It was just like, oh, gosh, they might
have really screwed up because CJ. Stroud is crushing it
and the other quarterback. I would bring up Bears rookie
Caleb Williams. I don't think he's ever gonna have a
honeymoon period, and I don't think it's right. But there's
been so much scrutiny with that guy just coming out
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of college. He hasn't even taken an NFL snap, And
do you anticipate many people like, hey, give it time.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
He's a young guy.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's gonna be oh, look at this freaking guy and
look at that throw and blah blah blah. I don't
think they're gonna give him any time to adjust to
life in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, it's interesting because it's sort of flipped because there
was a lot of negativity and now, like I read
an article a few days ago that said, do the
Bears have one of the top five offenses in the
NFL already? And I was like, wait, whoa, whoa? Whoa right?
Can he play it down first? Like you're setting him
up to not be able to live up to expectations.
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I'm gonna give you one that came to me while
we were thinking. While we were talking, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,
the honeymoon may already be over. Oh yeah. I think
a lot of people now look at his ceiling and
see it as lower. That's certainly where I am, like,
I still think he can be a solid player buttive
the negatives at this point. I don't think he's gonna
fix all of those problems. There's something there that maybe
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maybe it was overvalued, or maybe urban Meyer killed it
in year one with what happened with the Jags, but
because that was about as bad a situation as you
can find. But I do look at the Trevor Lawrence
thing and say, all right, all the talk of the
next John Elway and all of that like that, I
think that might be in the rear view now. Maybe
he's still gonna do it. But I mean, he was
in the playoffs and he won a game. He beat
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the aforementioned Justin Herbert a couple of years ago. But
last year was definitely one of those where you were
anticipating the next step, and instead I'm not even sure
they ran in place. I'm not sure that they did
not fall behind, despite you know, Calvin Ridley being there
and all of those things. So I think he's the
guy that you look at and you say that is
the danger for some of these guys is if Trevor
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doesn't do it this year, I feel like at that point,
the conversation about him changes permanently.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting where you just look around the
NFL and there are only a handful of quarterbacks where
you could say the honeymoon period is still going on,
right because if you're a veteran quarterback, you're just expected
to win, no matter what you're expected to win, and
if you don't, you got to step it up. That's
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just the way it goes with life in the NFL.
You probably have on one hand the quarterbacks that the
honeymoon period is still going on. I would say it's
Jordan Love right now. I would say it's still c. J. Stroud.
I would say that a young guy like Jaden Daniels,
the Washington Commander's rookie like those are a few. Anthony
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Richardson with the Colts, you know, if he gets banged
up again, it's gonna be like, well, he's gonna get
criticized for that where he just can't stay upright. But
they're probably only about four maybe five quarterbacks in the
whole league where they get the benefit of the doubt
whether they're really young or they haven't won playoff games yet.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
That's about it. Think about that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
The rest of the league probably like twenty six twenty
seven quarterbacks, there is no honeymoon period and they are
expected to win no matter what.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And that's so weird when you think about young quarterbacks,
because that's still a pretty recent phenomenon that young quarterbacks
come in and you almost assume they're gonna start immediately.
I mean for much of our life, Brian, that ain't
how it worked at all. Right, Even the top pick
sat on the bench and you were not expecting to
see him immediately. Now, if you get drafted in the
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first round, you better be out there or they might
have made a bad pick. Even though you look at
the case of Jordan Love, I don't know that they did.
Now you can look at it in the circumstance and
what it ended up doing to their relationship with Aaron Rodgers.
But you can't look at what Jordan Love did last
year and say, Okay, well they didn't know what they
were doing. They drafted. You know, somebody had no business
being in that spot. I don't think that's the case.
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But again, you're expected to come in and make an
impact almost immediately, and it just got harder because of CJ. Stroud.
Now now again it's like, if you use a first
round pick, we need a c. J. Stroud. We don't
need somebody sitting on the bench for two years. So
you need to come in and be instant impact for us.
And the problem there is most of the guys, especially
the top top picks, are going to teams with crap
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offensive lines after playing behind the equivalent of like a
giant wall in college, and you know, they end up
taking their lumps and learning the speed of the game
and all of those things, but none of them are
really given much grace anymore. Grace is is a lost
art when it comes to the NFL quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, it really is. And what's interesting to me is
Lamar Jackson. He's not in the honeymoon period because he's
expected to win. But I will say that the pushback
with Lamar coming up short in the playoffs is a
lot lesser than many other quarterbacks that would be in
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the same position. Where if you look at Lamar, he's
a two time MVP, and where are the playoff wins?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And he isn't vilified the same way if you put
some other quarterbacks in the same position, like a reigning
two time MVP. And he goes down again at home
against the Chiefs in a game where he didn't play
very well. Completion rate is fifty four, had a touchdown
pass and an interceptions.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Not of good performance by Lamar.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
There are a lot of quarterbacks that would be heavily
criticized a lot more than Lamar is, and I find
that to be pretty interesting. His playoff record is two
to four, it's a two time MVP, has got as
many MVP as as playoff wins.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
He isn't crushed the way some other guys are.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I think that the Ravens are the cowboys of the AFC.
I think that's what they are in the Lamar Jackson era.
They're a team that wins a bunch of regular season games,
they get a lot of attention, and then when the
playoffs come and the big stage comes.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
They don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think the Ravens are the cowboys of the AFC,
and so I'm not saying he's in the honeymoon period,
but it's a lot closer to that than it is
with some other top quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely thought of him, and they're
the cowboys of the AFC until they lose in the playoffs,
at which point they get like a Block three television
segment and then you move on. Sure, right, that's the difference.
That's right. If Lamar were the coach of Dallas or sorry,
with a quarterback of Dallas rather and doing the exact
same thing they do two hours on him. So I
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think that's the difference is that Baltimore doesn't get quite
scrutiny because they don't have It's not quite his box
office a topic. But certainly what you're saying is still accurate.
Another guy where the hunt moon period. Look, he was
in a Super Bowl a couple of years, but Jo
when Hurts, they took a step back last year, I think,
and now you've got a new OC and I do
expect that he's going to turn it around. But Hurts
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is another guy where there were and I also think
that the honeymoon period ends well, I don't know. I
think it ends faster on the extremes it ends for
Trevor Lawrence, even though you're gonna give him the benefit
of the doubt longer because he was the number one
pick and he was supposed to be the guy joehen
Hurts lost his job to Atagovloa, had to go to Oklahoma,
played phenomenal football pretty much his entire college career, despite
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the fact that the knock on him was that you know,
he couldn't He wasn't a guy that you feared throwing
the football. He was more of an athlete, all of
those things. Then he comes to the NFL and there's
still knocks, and then he starts winning. He gets to
a super Bowl and he plays a classic game and
gets outdueled. Even though maybe he outplayed Patrick Mahomes in
that Super Bowl, they still find a way to lose
that game. But I don't know that he gets the
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same benefit of the doubt as some other guys because
of what you thought he was in college, if that
makes sense. And I think the same thing is true
of like a Kayleb Williams because of what we think
Caleb Williams was. The honeymoon period may either not exist
or be much shorter, or it may be much longer
for some guys like a Jayden Daniels who just came
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off a Heisman trophy because of well, we know he's good.
It's just got to be. We got to fix a
couple things around him. So I think that's what I'm saying.
It's so individual based on so many other factors.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's uh. I'll put it this way. It takes a
lot for you to change your tune about a quarterback.
If you're just like, eh, you know, Brockbirdy, I didn't
think he was great at Iowa State. He's gonna have
to move mountains in the NFL for you to be like, man,
this freaking guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Right like, and even then when he struggles once, you're like,
that's why he was picked last.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's right, Yeah, Or what you were saying about Jalen Hurts.
If Jalen Hurts was a you know, first round pick
or or you know, tenth overall, that might change the.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Way you view what he's done in the NFL. So
it does. It does take a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And the other way too, you know, if you thought
really highly of Trevor Lawrence coming out of Clemson, it's
it takes a lot for you to completely move off
of that because he hasn't put up the numbers. But
some people still believe in him because he does have
the ability.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
He just hasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You haven't had the production yet, so it takes a
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Joe here live from the Tyraq dot com studios. So
I watched the first episode of off season with the
New York Giants HBO Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Did you check that out at all?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I have heard that the Giants are getting some flack
for being too open and some of the things they.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Showed really Okay, Hey what the Saquon bar all the conversation? Yeah, yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I you know what, I don't know how to say
this exactly where it's not captivating television, But there have
been a couple of conversations that have been pretty interesting
to hear. And uh, I love where Dan Morgan he
had a conversation with Joe Shane. So those are the gms, right,
(17:29):
we're talking Panthers and Giants, and so Dan Morgan he
brought it up. He was like, hey, you want to
give us a couple of ones for Burns? You know,
like and you get to actually hear that. It's hard
to hear. It sounds like someone's talking over it, but
listen to Dan Morgan. He says, you want to give
us two ones for Burns, meaning two first round picks.
(17:52):
Here's a little taste of what it sounded like.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I want to give us cold ones for friends.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Ooh, that's sounded an awful lot. Like the Panthers. Just
let the Giants know the pass rusher extraordinary Brian Burns
is available.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, I mean yes, but something handing the right direction.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I love stuff like it's the football nerd in me
where it's you know, you want to give us two
ones or like a one and something that's the groundwork
to the deal that was eventually made.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I love stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean it's good too. It's good from an entertainment
standpoint or just something being really interesting standpoint to pull
back the curtain and see some of that stuff. Is
that great for the franchises involved and the players being discussed?
I don't know. I mean, I don't know where you
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draw the line when you have somebody bring a playbook in,
you know, you know you're cutting them and that's being filmed.
I don't know. I don't know if that's where you
draw the line or if something like this is where
you draw the line. I do think that that kind
of thing right there that you just played is why
people would want to watch Hard Knocks as opposed to
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random highlights from this practice where you don't really see anything,
you don't get anything. It's all very carefully and meticulously
protective of the franchise. And that's the thing. And you know,
I talked to a coach who is part of both
Amazon series as well as the Max series, meaning all
(19:36):
the NFL in season stuff as well as the Hard
Knock stuff, and it's just like it's always misinterpreted, it's misapplied.
It's not the team that has the ability to lease
something on the cutting room floor is not them. It's us,
Like we tell them when they can film, when they can't,
we can point at we can like hold up a
hand and they know that the cameras have to turn
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because they're not able to show this. And we get
to screen every bit of foot before it runs, and
if we don't want it in, it's out. Because it
is a propaganda piece. It is a piece that is
supposed to be advertising and publicity for the NFL and
for a specific franchise. It's not a gotcha show, it's
not an investigative report. It is to pull back the curtain.
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But it's all about interest, it's all about creating, generating
all of that kind of thing. So I think that's
maybe the most intriguing part of this is so they
knew this was gonna air and they ran it so
clearly they didn't think it was crossing the line or
it was going to be in any way controversial.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, and they said they had a couple of conversations
about sa Quon Barkley and they're thinking about letting them go.
Do we let him seek out a trade? And they're
just sitting there talking like, who's gonna pay this guy
twelve million dollars? Right, and then give us a pick
on top of doing that. So to hear those conversations,
(20:58):
it's been interesting. That was one of the quotes from
the GM Joe Shane of the Giants, he said, you're
paying Daniel Jones forty million dollars. It's not to hand
the ball off to a twelve million dollar back. And
that's one of the other themes, at least the first episode,
is they're trying to give Daniel Jones a chance. They're like,
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we got to upgrade the offensive line and give this
guy a chance, and.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
They're right, they're right for approaching it that way.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I find that to be a little bit interesting
as well, Jason is it gets tricky. There's not a
lot of room for nuance when you're evaluating certain NFL
quarterbacks because it gets tricky real fast. I don't think
there's a problem with saying, hey, listen, Daniel Jones is
not a difference maker.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We know that, but what does he have to work
with exactly?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know, Like that's a little bit of a nuanced look,
and it sounds like you're giving him more of the
benefit of the doubt than you should. But it's like, dude,
they gave up the second most in NFL history last year.
That's a real thing, and they don't have a great
offensive line. They drafted Melik Neighbors. He could be a stud,
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but before that, who have his receivers been exactly, you know, Like,
I don't think he's a difference maker, but he certainly
doesn't have a difference making supporting cast either.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, that's right, I mean, and I do think that's
fair because look at how he look at him and
then look at Brock Party for example, like Daniel Jones,
he gets knocked even though there's not a lot around him.
And look, I also think that he is kind of
average at best. I don't think he was probably drafted
where he should have been drafted and things of that nature.
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But does he look like he could be a starter
in the NFL? Sure? Does he look like he's going
to be leading a team to the Super Bowl? No,
And the year that they made that deep playoff run,
that felt like an aberration and it was. But you
look at Party for example, Party, I'm looking right now
on FS one, Party's eighth best to win MVP this
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year tied for the eighth best odds. The biggest reason
for that is because he's not perceived anywhere near the
best player on his own team, right Like, because they
have everything around him. They've got guys on defense that
you love that are getting paid big money. They've got
Christian McCaffrey, who's newly married. Congratulations to him and Olivia.
I can I can speak on that because I didn't
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know anything about the wedding until like Christian McCaffrey basically
came at the Vogue reporter or whatever that like attacked
his wife's wedding gown.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh my god, did you see this?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, this wedding get like she said, you know, she
was wearing kind of this classic deal and it was
very modest, and said, you know, she wanted her dress
to really feel like the seriousness of the commitment that
she was making to Christian and all this kind of stuff,
and it was very cool. But this reporter was like, yeah,
but you don't dress modestly most of the time, and
you're trying to tell us how we should be in
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our marriage. Christian McCaffrey's like, how low rent are you?
I wish you had the class my wife did. And
all this got like very interesting. I know it's a
little bit of a sidebar, but it is. Yeah, it's fine, sure,
but I think that's it. Like there's no Christian McCaffrey there.
And Saquon Barkway, you want to talk about the honeymoon period,
being over, Like, we haven't talked about Saquon for any
(24:19):
real reason in a while. We'll see what happens this
year in Philadelphia. But like Daniel Jones is just one
of those guys where it's like, hey, he's all right.
But it's very easy, especially if you're in New York
in a big market where you're going to be featured
in the Game of the week a lot anyway, just
because of the function of how many eyeballs you bring,
because you're a New York team, there's just a different
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there's a different level of scrutiny, there's a different expectation.
So I think that's part of it is. You know,
I do think that he probably takes more than he should,
but that's what you sign up for when you're a
top ten pick drafted by the Giants to play quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I'll just say two things.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Where I saw the group picture of it was Christian
McCaffrey and some of his teammates like Kyle Hughes check
and I think George Kittle was in the picture and
his former Panthers teammate Greg Olsen, and Greg Olsen looked
like he was on a nine day bender.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
It's like it's a ari. It's all crazy. He's like
a take a picture, man.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You gotta look it up, man, it is awesome. The
other thing is I love that you brought up Rock Purty.
I would love to see a role reversal. If you
put Daniel Jones in that Niners offense and you put
Rock Party in that Giants offense, you would see both
quarterbacks look quite a bit different.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, but who do you think? I'll tell you though,
I still think Perty. I think Party. I think something
about Party and the way he plays and his mentality
and his ability to be coached and all those things.
I still think he might he might be a better
option for the Giants. Sure, I don't have a problem
with that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But it's like we look at these quarterbacks to be
the difference makers, and I get that, but it oftentimes
takes more than that, and we just gloss over the
supporting cast as if it doesn't matter, and it matters
way more than we often make it out to matter.
It's like, if you put Daniel Jones with the Niners,
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his numbers look way better. If you put Brock Purdy
with the Giants, his numbers look way worse. And again
this is maybe Malik Neighbors is a stud wide receiver.
This is before this season when they had hardly anything
to work with. What is Purty doing with that offense?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
So it's just it matters, That's all I'm saying. For sure,
the supporting cast matters. You know who else matters? Brian Finley?
You know, Brian Fenley matters to me, It matters to you,
It matters to America.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
How much do I matter to you, Brian? Because I
spell my first name the right way Brian should be spelled.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Oh no, no, no no, when you spell it with the
You're just to want to be Ryan.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
That's all it is.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Actually, that's pretty good. I've never heard that before. Is
that what all Brian's would? An? I say, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Just made up off the top of my head. It's like,
you're just pretty used. You're like, where where do I?
Where do I belong? I don't know where I.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You're just an impostor Ryan, just Brian with a Y.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You don't know what's going on exactly. That is true.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
There are fewer of us, so that makes this kind
of cool.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I guess that make you an impostor Ian.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Brian An impostor Ian.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Hey, there's also Ryan Johnson who ruined Star Wars with
the Last Jedi, but luckily also did Knives Out, which
is a classic. So and that's our I a n
So you're also a fake Ryan, see it?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It loses a little bit of steam because of the
Ian Brian. You know, if most Ian's were Irons, right,
it would work a little more.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There's Ryan Why Ryan? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Is he the only guy that pronounces it iron?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
That's there are only a couple of Irons out there.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Can I tell you this. I've interviewed the guy. I've
talked to him a lot, Iron Eagles one of the
nicest dude. Here you go.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, he's awesome, dude, man, He yes, he would be
on the Portland Show. I was doing a local show,
but because he's the Nets guy, so we'd have him
on a lot to preview like a Blazers Nets game.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
He was awesome everything.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He is tremendous. He really is.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yeah, he's one of the if not the greatest. Right now,
and when it comes to play by play and what's
happening last night, as we gave you the play by
play of what happened in the world of sports.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Some baseball to get to.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Diamondbacks hammer the Dodgers nine to three thanks to those
two home runs from Christian Walker, the Royals coming up
short at home ten to eight to the Rays. Matt
Chapman going yard for the Giants as they slug it
out and win it against the Braves four to two.
Mariners overcome the Oriole seven to three. Padres take out
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the Rangers three to one. The Cubs annihilate the Phillies
ten to two, aided by those twelve hits. Copa America quarterfinals,
Yes we're going there. Soccer Argentina escaping Ecuador four to
two in penalty kicks following a one to one tie.
So there was a ton of drama down the stretch there,
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and I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
My job if I didn't mention.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
There was a tremendously important competitive eating contest.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yesterday, Major League eating.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, Patrick Bertolletti winning the Nathan Sawdog eating contest, and
he did it by shoving fifty eight hot dogs and
buns down his throat in ten minutes, by the way,
but it's hard to put a lot of esteam behind
what he did in his performance, considering that Joey chestnutt,
who has done much better and did much better, did
not participate in seid event, and he was at a
(29:50):
separate fundraising event, and he did fifty seven hot dogs
in five minutes, and then afterwards he had some nice
things to say about what it means to be a
competitor and an eating legend. I never thought I'd put
competitor and eating legend in a sentence, but here we go,
speaking of two guys that are legends in sports radio. Yeah,
(30:10):
I said it. They're doing national radio. It's Jason Martin
and Brian Know.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's super kind of you, Brian?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Are should you not comparing us to Browny James?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I could compare you to anybody that's a competitive eater.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
There's only one, well, there's two. I'll take Kobe Yashi also, right,
like we know Joey Chestnut but Kobeyashi's got to be made.
I mean, Kobyashi was the original. He's the only two
competitive eaters I know. I guess I know. Pseudo.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Now, should we call Bertoletti the raptors of the competitive
eating circuit?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
There?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Right sham championships?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, because they still had Kawhi.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
They did have Kawhi, but no KD missing Clay for
basically a couple of games. Right, Yeah, I think bertlet
he's raptor ish, He's raptors like from that twenty nineteen
sham title right there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, is that a little too far?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I don't know, not necessarily. I mean, you remember when
Alabama crush Notre Dame in National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I know you'll appreciate our touchdowns. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
That almost felt like a sham because it was like,
I mean, did they actually play against another team in
that game?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now that is below the belt?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like there, how about Georgia TCU?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Now that was what was that sixty five to seven?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And that was then? It could have been much worse.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It really could have been. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So I ran across two NFL I guess you could
call them stats that made me say wow. The first
one the Cleveland Browns, so Jason. Over the last four years,
the Browns record is thirty seven and thirty So it's
it's pretty good, right, winning about fifty five percent of
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their games.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Nothing to right home about, but good?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
You would have to go all the way back.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
To nineteen eighty six through eighty nine to find a
four season span that was as successful. Think about all
the nineties, all the two thousand's, all the twenty tens,
all of that. You got to go all the way
back to the eighties to find a four season span
(32:26):
where a record was at least thirty seven and thirty
for the Browns.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
For the Browns, well, I mean that.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Was Kozar and Sure Biner and you know those guys.
So I mean since then, they've kind of been the
doormat oh man of the NFL. Like I've done this before,
you may have too. We've done radio long enough that
you've probably had this moment where I've run down the
list as fast as I can, like trying to speed
read on air, all the quarterbacks that have started for
(32:54):
that team. Oh sure, since Bernie Cozar. It is an
incredible list of Oh man, I forgot about You need
to hear that song from like nineteen ninety two, and
you're just kind of wondering to yourself. You're like, man, gosh,
I haven't heard that in ages. I really like that.
This is the same thing, except you didn't really like that. Yeah,
But you're like, but you think about it. I mean,
(33:15):
the Dolphins have had had a list too since Apparently
I'm just taking shots at you. I'm not really, but
you had like Cleo Lemon.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Oh yeah, and some of these dudes that you just.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Completely forget about. Well, that's like the Browns entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Sure, oh they were freaking brutal for a long time.
This isn't breaking news. But thirty seven and thirty again,
it's all right, you're a few games.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Over you hope that's not what you're hanging your hat on.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, that's not amazing. Think how many teams have not
won a Super Bowl. The Cowboys are a good example.
The Cowboys would look at thirty seven and thirty over
a four season span and be like.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
That's brutal.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What They've won twelve games full of times here lately,
you know, So you don't have to go back to
the mid nineties to find a four season span where
they want at least thirty seven games.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
That hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The other thing that blew my mind is the forty
nine ers. So if you look at their schedule, they
play eight games where they'll have less rest than their opponents, right,
and that's the most in NFL history. That's what blew
my mind is they will have less rest than eight
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of their opponents, and they're like minus twenty one days
in the rest.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Teams are coming off of buy a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, teams are coming off of buye or they play
on Monday night and their opponent played on Sundays, stuff
like that. So they're at a great disadvantage in terms
of rest this season. Something to keep in mind. If
you're looking at the Niners.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They are and they're playing obviously a first place schedule,
so I mean that's a bear of a schedule. If
they get through that and they're still top couple seeds
in the NFC, they're gonna definitely have earned it, that's
for sure. That's that is not a Joey Spaghetti or
whatever his name is that won the eat contest yesterday.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I would love if his name was Spaghetti in the
hot dog contest, you know, that would have That's nice whatever, man,
I mean, maybe he should go make a name for
himself eating something else because the hot dog thing that
I think that gimmick's.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Already been taken.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, it's really interesting how much it varies, like the
first place compared to the last place schedule.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so huge.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The Niners, like you mentioned, first play schedule. So they
pick up the Chiefs, they played the Cowboys on Sunday
night and then not terrible, but they're at Tampa. But
you compare that to the last place team in their division,
the Arizona Cardinals. The Arizona Cardinals their last place schedule,
they're three games, they get the Commanders, they get the
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Chargers at home on Monday night, and then they're at
the pan Anthers. Like that, it's night and day. A
lot of times playing a first place compared to a
left Well.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I mean look at I mean even the Ats. I
mean like do you look at San Francisco, at Miami,
at Buffalo, at Green Bay, at Tampa, you know, at Minnesota,
Like there's a lot of there's a lot of games
where it's just like, yeah, those are not ones that
I would request if I was a fan of that team,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, Yeah, that's a tough road man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
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the air. So I love this story. Here, j mart
We've got a Jalen Brown, member of the Boston Celtics. Yep,
just want a championship. So he had lost a ring
of his at the championship parade. This is not a
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championship ring yet, he doesn't have that. This is just
a different ring. But very nice, says Juice on it.
The Jay is spelled with the seven like his number,
and it's also his sportswear brand.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
But he lost this ring.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
He promised a big reward to whoever got the ring
back to him, and so there was a couple they
found the ring, they got in touch with Jalen Brown.
They said, hey, we got your ring, man, and again
this is the guy who signed a little more than
a three hundred million dollar contract a year ago and
promised a big reward. So if you found this ring
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of Jalen Brown and you got it back to Jalen Brown,
what would you be hoping for in terms of a
payment there?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
See, I don't know. Do you do the reverse psychology
thing where hey man, it's yours, I can't take anything,
it's yours, you know, huh, hate that you lost it,
But in your mind you're like, but this is gonna
score me big because I'm doing this, like on the surface,
it seems like this really moral thing with a ton
(39:51):
of integrity behind it and just being a really good guy.
And he's going to really open up the bank account
for me now because I'm not coming ending a price
in advance. Or do you just say, all right, you
made three hundred mil, I need three mil, I need
three mil.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I love it. I love the approach.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I think this, unless you ask for it, you're not
getting it right. And so the couple they got as
signed basketball, they got a jersey, and they're gonna get
two court side tickets for the Celtics ring ceremony.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Just for the ceremony.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
How about for the season, right, right exactly? It should be,
should be for the season, should be for the finals.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And I give it to him and I say, hey, look,
I was trying to do a nice thing and give
him the thing back, and then he kind of shafted me.
So then I go to an interview and I'm just like,
he's a chump, Like he's not he's not an upstanding guy.
I was expecting more and he offered me nothing. I
wish i'd thrown the ring away. Like then I try
to bury him after the fact, Oh he dropped. I
(40:58):
thought maybe I dropped. Now I think we lost be
no there for just a second. But yeah, see, I
don't know. I think that there's a part of me
it's just I would just give him the ring back
because it's the right thing to do. But then there's
another part of me it's just like, I mean, this
is my opportunity to sort of win a lottery, and
I'm not gonna win the lottery because I don't play
the lottery. But yeah, you know, maybe you just take
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whatever he gives you to say, hey, you know what
if you want to give me something that's fun. If not,
because it was a free thing for you anyway, you
just picked it up off the ground. But it is
a good story. It's fun story, unlike the hot dog
eating contest, which I'm sure is still going to be
talked about throughout the day, but I don't know that
it needs to be talked about in terms of being
a scandal or anything like that. But it's a function
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of July fifth that there's going to be more talk
about the eating contest than maybe a lot of the
other things. But one of the thing Brian know, of course,
for being here, probably just let him go a little
bit early, maybe pay him a minute less worth of time.
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all right, j mart So, I was thinking about this
with the honeymoon period for NFL quarterbacks right some currently
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the honeymoon is still going on where we just kind
of shrug our shoulders and we don't crush them if
they come up short. Other quarterbacks, there is no honeymoon
period in sight, not at all, And you were talking
the last hour about Dak Prescott. He's been in the news.
He was recently in a walking boot. He had a
(01:34):
minor right foot sprain. But the walking boot is off
and he should be good to go. But I was
thinking about this, building off your topic where you're talking
about you could take any quarterback in the league other
than Patrick Mahomes to start your team.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Who are you going with?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And it just made me think of there's no honeymoon
period for Dak Prescott. But if you compare that to
a guy like Jordan Love, the Packers quarterback. What's funny
if you look at those two guys, Jason So Dak Prescott.
A couple of years ago, he threw two really bad
interceptions on the road against the forty nine Ers in
a playoff game, and he got crushed, and deservedly so
(02:14):
Jordan Love. He had a good performance against the Cowboys.
They won that game in the playoffs, and then the
next game played pretty well against San Francisco until the
final minute when it mattered most, and he threw one
of the worst playoff interceptions I've ever seen, late across
his body over the middle of the field. Easy interception,
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gift wrapped it. Terrible decision, no pushback, no negativity because
he's still in the honeymoon period. So how long do
you think it's gonna take for Jordan Love in particular
C J. Stroud, We're all like, ah, man, these guys,
but the honeymoon period is going to end. How long
do you think it's gonna take?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think it depends on the individual and it depends
on the situation. When you look at Dak, I don't
think he I think there was honeymoon period for him
at the very beginning, but it ended quickly because it's
going to with the cowboys. With Jordan Love, I think
he did take a little bit of flack. But certainly
this is kind of the difference between the two circumstances,
right it happens to Jordan Love and the kind of
(03:20):
talking point afterwards, He's just trying to make a play.
He's a young guy trying to make a play, as
opposed to gosh, what was he thinking? Where was he looking?
Dak Prescott does the exact same thing, and it's bomb overpaid.
You should let him go move on from him. Finally,
that just shows the difference in mentality and perspective. But again,
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this is somebody who was in his first season, in
his first postseason, and by all indicators, and I certainly
would say this, he certainly outperformed what I was expecting
him to do in his first year as a quarterback
of the Green Bay Packers. Why don't you talk about
a couple of guys that have been in the league
a little bit longer. I think the honeymoon period will
end for Justin Herbert this year if they struggle, and
(04:10):
eventually Josh Allen's got to get to a super Bowl. Yeah,
I mean really like you've paid him the money and
the one thing that he has always had in front
of him to kind of deflect any negativity towards him
is his head coach. And guess what he still does.
And I think that I think eventually, if then we
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could have done this year, Sean mc durmott, probably you
have to. You have to start looking at doing something else.
But he's the one that still takes I think a
brunt of what's going on there, but I think that's
gonna be one. And then you look at a guy
who probably didn't really have any honeymoon, and anything he
does negative it's time to bench at Miss Brock party.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Mm hmm, yeah right. I think that a couple of
guys first off with Herbert. I think the honeymoon period
has been over. I think it officially was over when
they lost a playoff game to Jacksonville. And I wasn't
one of the people criticizing Herbert. He took a lot
of criticism after they lost that game. Remember they had
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the big lead, they were up I think it was
twenty seven to nothing, and they ended up losing the game,
and there was a lot of Herbert pushback where hey,
he puts up all these numbers, but you got to
close the deal. And it's like they were up twenty
seven to nothing, play some freaking defense, you know, get
a stop. It's way more on the defense than on Herbert.
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But he got criticized heavily for that, and that's one
of the indications where it's like, Okay, the honeymoon is
officially over. I think it's interesting with a couple of
young guys. I don't know if there was ever a
honeymoon period with Bryce Young, the Panthers starting quarterback. He
had a rough rookie season, and I don't think that
many gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't
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hear a whole lot of well, I mean, look at
the receivers around him, and give it a little bit
of time. It was just like, oh, gosh, they might
have really screwed up because CJ. Stroud is crushing it
and the other quarterback. I would bring up Bears rookie
Caleb Williams. I don't think he's ever gonna have a
honeymoon period, and I don't think it's right. But there's
been so much scrutiny with that guy just coming out
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of college. He hasn't even taken an NFL snap, And
do you anticipate many people like, hey, give it time.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
He's a young guy.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's gonna be oh, look at this freaking guy and
look at that throw and blah blah blah. I don't
think they're gonna give him any time to adjust to
life in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, it's interesting because it's sort of flipped because there
was a lot of negativity and now, like I read
an article a few days ago that said, do the
Bears have one of the top five offenses in the
NFL already? And I was like, wait, whoa, whoa? Whoa right?
Can he play it down first? Like you're setting him
up to not be able to live up to expectations.
(06:56):
I'm gonna give you one that came to me while
we were thinking. While we were talking, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,
the honeymoon may already be over. Oh yeah. I think
a lot of people now look at his ceiling and
see it as lower. That's certainly where I am, like,
I still think he can be a solid player buttive
the negatives at this point. I don't think he's gonna
fix all of those problems. There's something there that maybe
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maybe it was overvalued, or maybe urban Meyer killed it
in year one with what happened with the Jags, but
because that was about as bad a situation as you
can find. But I do look at the Trevor Lawrence
thing and say, all right, all the talk of the
next John Elway and all of that like that, I
think that might be in the rear view now. Maybe
he's still gonna do it. But I mean, he was
in the playoffs and he won a game. He beat
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the aforementioned Justin Herbert a couple of years ago. But
last year was definitely one of those where you were
anticipating the next step, and instead I'm not even sure
they ran in place. I'm not sure that they did
not fall behind, despite you know, Calvin Ridley being there
and all of those things. So I think he's the
guy that you look at and you say that is
the danger for some of these guys is if Trevor
(08:01):
doesn't do it this year, I feel like at that point,
the conversation about him changes permanently.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting where you just look around the
NFL and there are only a handful of quarterbacks where
you could say the honeymoon period is still going on,
right because if you're a veteran quarterback, you're just expected
to win, no matter what you're expected to win, and
if you don't, you got to step it up. That's
(08:32):
just the way it goes with life in the NFL.
You probably have on one hand the quarterbacks that the
honeymoon period is still going on. I would say it's
Jordan Love right now. I would say it's still c. J. Stroud.
I would say that a young guy like Jaden Daniels,
the Washington Commander's rookie like those are a few. Anthony
(08:52):
Richardson with the Colts, you know, if he gets banged
up again, it's gonna be like, well, he's gonna get
criticized for that where he just can't stay upright. But
they're probably only about four maybe five quarterbacks in the
whole league where they get the benefit of the doubt
whether they're really young or they haven't won playoff games yet.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
That's about it. Think about that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
The rest of the league probably like twenty six twenty
seven quarterbacks, there is no honeymoon period and they are
expected to win no matter what.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And that's so weird when you think about young quarterbacks,
because that's still a pretty recent phenomenon that young quarterbacks
come in and you almost assume they're gonna start immediately.
I mean for much of our life, Brian, that ain't
how it worked at all. Right, Even the top pick
sat on the bench and you were not expecting to
see him immediately. Now, if you get drafted in the
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first round, you better be out there or they might
have made a bad pick. Even though you look at
the case of Jordan Love, I don't know that they did.
Now you can look at it in the circumstance and
what it ended up doing to their relationship with Aaron Rodgers.
But you can't look at what Jordan Love did last
year and say, Okay, well they didn't know what they
were doing. They drafted. You know, somebody had no business
being in that spot. I don't think that's the case.
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But again, you're expected to come in and make an
impact almost immediately, and it just got harder because of CJ. Stroud.
Now now again it's like, if you use a first
round pick, we need a c. J. Stroud. We don't
need somebody sitting on the bench for two years. So
you need to come in and be instant impact for us.
And the problem there is most of the guys, especially
the top top picks, are going to teams with crap
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offensive lines after playing behind the equivalent of like a
giant wall in college, and you know, they end up
taking their lumps and learning the speed of the game
and all of those things, but none of them are
really given much grace anymore. Grace is is a lost
art when it comes to the NFL quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, it really is. And what's interesting to me is
Lamar Jackson. He's not in the honeymoon period because he's
expected to win. But I will say that the pushback
with Lamar coming up short in the playoffs is a
lot lesser than many other quarterbacks that would be in
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the same position. Where if you look at Lamar, he's
a two time MVP, and where are the playoff wins?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And he isn't vilified the same way if you put
some other quarterbacks in the same position, like a reigning
two time MVP. And he goes down again at home
against the Chiefs in a game where he didn't play
very well. Completion rate is fifty four, had a touchdown
pass and an interceptions.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Not of good performance by Lamar.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
There are a lot of quarterbacks that would be heavily
criticized a lot more than Lamar is, and I find
that to be pretty interesting. His playoff record is two
to four, it's a two time MVP, has got as
many MVP as as playoff wins.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
He isn't crushed the way some other guys are.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I think that the Ravens are the cowboys of the AFC.
I think that's what they are in the Lamar Jackson era.
They're a team that wins a bunch of regular season games,
they get a lot of attention, and then when the
playoffs come and the big stage comes.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
They don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think the Ravens are the cowboys of the AFC,
and so I'm not saying he's in the honeymoon period,
but it's a lot closer to that than it is
with some other top quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely thought of him, and they're
the cowboys of the AFC until they lose in the playoffs,
at which point they get like a Block three television
segment and then you move on. Sure, right, that's the difference.
That's right. If Lamar were the coach of Dallas or sorry,
with a quarterback of Dallas rather and doing the exact
same thing they do two hours on him. So I
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think that's the difference is that Baltimore doesn't get quite
scrutiny because they don't have It's not quite his box
office a topic. But certainly what you're saying is still accurate.
Another guy where the hunt moon period. Look, he was
in a Super Bowl a couple of years, but Jo
when Hurts, they took a step back last year, I think,
and now you've got a new OC and I do
expect that he's going to turn it around. But Hurts
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is another guy where there were and I also think
that the honeymoon period ends well, I don't know. I
think it ends faster on the extremes it ends for
Trevor Lawrence, even though you're gonna give him the benefit
of the doubt longer because he was the number one
pick and he was supposed to be the guy joehen
Hurts lost his job to Atagovloa, had to go to Oklahoma,
played phenomenal football pretty much his entire college career, despite
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the fact that the knock on him was that you know,
he couldn't He wasn't a guy that you feared throwing
the football. He was more of an athlete, all of
those things. Then he comes to the NFL and there's
still knocks, and then he starts winning. He gets to
a super Bowl and he plays a classic game and
gets outdueled. Even though maybe he outplayed Patrick Mahomes in
that Super Bowl, they still find a way to lose
that game. But I don't know that he gets the
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same benefit of the doubt as some other guys because
of what you thought he was in college, if that
makes sense. And I think the same thing is true
of like a Kayleb Williams because of what we think
Caleb Williams was. The honeymoon period may either not exist
or be much shorter, or it may be much longer
for some guys like a Jayden Daniels who just came
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off a Heisman trophy because of well, we know he's good.
It's just got to be. We got to fix a
couple things around him. So I think that's what I'm saying.
It's so individual based on so many other factors.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's uh. I'll put it this way. It takes a
lot for you to change your tune about a quarterback.
If you're just like, eh, you know, Brockbirdy, I didn't
think he was great at Iowa State. He's gonna have
to move mountains in the NFL for you to be like, man,
this freaking guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Right like, and even then when he struggles once, you're like,
that's why he was picked last.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's right, Yeah, Or what you were saying about Jalen Hurts.
If Jalen Hurts was a you know, first round pick
or or you know, tenth overall, that might change the.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Way you view what he's done in the NFL. So
it does. It does take a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And the other way too, you know, if you thought
really highly of Trevor Lawrence coming out of Clemson, it's
it takes a lot for you to completely move off
of that because he hasn't put up the numbers. But
some people still believe in him because he does have
the ability.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
He just hasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You haven't had the production yet, so it takes a
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Now We're in for two pros and a cup of
Joe here live from the Tyraq dot com studios. So
I watched the first episode of off season with the
New York Giants HBO Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Did you check that out at all?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I have heard that the Giants are getting some flack
for being too open and some of the things they.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Showed really Okay, Hey what the Saquon bar all the conversation? Yeah, yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I you know what, I don't know how to say
this exactly where it's not captivating television, But there have
been a couple of conversations that have been pretty interesting
to hear. And uh, I love where Dan Morgan he
had a conversation with Joe Shane. So those are the gms, right,
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we're talking Panthers and Giants, and so Dan Morgan he
brought it up. He was like, hey, you want to
give us a couple of ones for Burns? You know,
like and you get to actually hear that. It's hard
to hear. It sounds like someone's talking over it, but
listen to Dan Morgan. He says, you want to give
us two ones for Burns, meaning two first round picks.
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Here's a little taste of what it sounded like.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I want to give us cold ones for friends.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Ooh, that's sounded an awful lot. Like the Panthers. Just
let the Giants know the pass rusher extraordinary Brian Burns
is available.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, I mean yes, but something handing the right direction.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I love stuff like it's the football nerd in me
where it's you know, you want to give us two
ones or like a one and something that's the groundwork
to the deal that was eventually made.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I love stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean it's good too. It's good from an entertainment
standpoint or just something being really interesting standpoint to pull
back the curtain and see some of that stuff. Is
that great for the franchises involved and the players being discussed?
I don't know. I mean, I don't know where you
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draw the line when you have somebody bring a playbook in,
you know, you know you're cutting them and that's being filmed.
I don't know. I don't know if that's where you
draw the line or if something like this is where
you draw the line. I do think that that kind
of thing right there that you just played is why
people would want to watch Hard Knocks as opposed to
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random highlights from this practice where you don't really see anything,
you don't get anything. It's all very carefully and meticulously
protective of the franchise. And that's the thing. And you know,
I talked to a coach who is part of both
Amazon series as well as the Max series, meaning all
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the NFL in season stuff as well as the Hard
Knock stuff, and it's just like it's always misinterpreted, it's misapplied.
It's not the team that has the ability to lease
something on the cutting room floor is not them. It's us,
Like we tell them when they can film, when they can't,
we can point at we can like hold up a
hand and they know that the cameras have to turn
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because they're not able to show this. And we get
to screen every bit of foot before it runs, and
if we don't want it in, it's out. Because it
is a propaganda piece. It is a piece that is
supposed to be advertising and publicity for the NFL and
for a specific franchise. It's not a gotcha show, it's
not an investigative report. It is to pull back the curtain.
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But it's all about interest, it's all about creating, generating
all of that kind of thing. So I think that's
maybe the most intriguing part of this is so they
knew this was gonna air and they ran it so
clearly they didn't think it was crossing the line or
it was going to be in any way controversial.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, and they said they had a couple of conversations
about sa Quon Barkley and they're thinking about letting them go.
Do we let him seek out a trade? And they're
just sitting there talking like, who's gonna pay this guy
twelve million dollars? Right, and then give us a pick
on top of doing that. So to hear those conversations,
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it's been interesting. That was one of the quotes from
the GM Joe Shane of the Giants, he said, you're
paying Daniel Jones forty million dollars. It's not to hand
the ball off to a twelve million dollar back. And
that's one of the other themes, at least the first episode,
is they're trying to give Daniel Jones a chance. They're like,
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we got to upgrade the offensive line and give this
guy a chance, and.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
They're right, they're right for approaching it that way.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I find that to be a little bit interesting
as well, Jason is it gets tricky. There's not a
lot of room for nuance when you're evaluating certain NFL
quarterbacks because it gets tricky real fast. I don't think
there's a problem with saying, hey, listen, Daniel Jones is
not a difference maker.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We know that, but what does he have to work
with exactly?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know, Like that's a little bit of a nuanced look,
and it sounds like you're giving him more of the
benefit of the doubt than you should. But it's like, dude,
they gave up the second most in NFL history last year.
That's a real thing, and they don't have a great
offensive line. They drafted Melik Neighbors. He could be a stud,
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but before that, who have his receivers been exactly, you know, Like,
I don't think he's a difference maker, but he certainly
doesn't have a difference making supporting cast either.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, that's right, I mean, and I do think that's
fair because look at how he look at him and
then look at Brock Party for example, like Daniel Jones,
he gets knocked even though there's not a lot around him.
And look, I also think that he is kind of
average at best. I don't think he was probably drafted
where he should have been drafted and things of that nature.
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But does he look like he could be a starter
in the NFL? Sure? Does he look like he's going
to be leading a team to the Super Bowl? No,
And the year that they made that deep playoff run,
that felt like an aberration and it was. But you
look at Party for example, Party, I'm looking right now
on FS one, Party's eighth best to win MVP this
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year tied for the eighth best odds. The biggest reason
for that is because he's not perceived anywhere near the
best player on his own team, right Like, because they
have everything around him. They've got guys on defense that
you love that are getting paid big money. They've got
Christian McCaffrey, who's newly married. Congratulations to him and Olivia.
I can I can speak on that because I didn't
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know anything about the wedding until like Christian McCaffrey basically
came at the Vogue reporter or whatever that like attacked
his wife's wedding gown.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh my god, did you see this?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, this wedding get like she said, you know, she
was wearing kind of this classic deal and it was
very modest, and said, you know, she wanted her dress
to really feel like the seriousness of the commitment that
she was making to Christian and all this kind of stuff,
and it was very cool. But this reporter was like, yeah,
but you don't dress modestly most of the time, and
you're trying to tell us how we should be in
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our marriage. Christian McCaffrey's like, how low rent are you?
I wish you had the class my wife did. And
all this got like very interesting. I know it's a
little bit of a sidebar, but it is. Yeah, it's fine, sure,
but I think that's it. Like there's no Christian McCaffrey there.
And Saquon Barkway, you want to talk about the honeymoon period,
being over, Like, we haven't talked about Saquon for any
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real reason in a while. We'll see what happens this
year in Philadelphia. But like Daniel Jones is just one
of those guys where it's like, hey, he's all right.
But it's very easy, especially if you're in New York
in a big market where you're going to be featured
in the Game of the week a lot anyway, just
because of the function of how many eyeballs you bring,
because you're a New York team, there's just a different
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there's a different level of scrutiny, there's a different expectation.
So I think that's part of it is. You know,
I do think that he probably takes more than he should,
but that's what you sign up for when you're a
top ten pick drafted by the Giants to play quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I'll just say two things.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Where I saw the group picture of it was Christian
McCaffrey and some of his teammates like Kyle Hughes check
and I think George Kittle was in the picture and
his former Panthers teammate Greg Olsen, and Greg Olsen looked
like he was on a nine day bender.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
It's like it's a ari. It's all crazy. He's like
a take a picture, man.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You gotta look it up, man, it is awesome. The
other thing is I love that you brought up Rock Purty.
I would love to see a role reversal. If you
put Daniel Jones in that Niners offense and you put
Rock Party in that Giants offense, you would see both
quarterbacks look quite a bit different.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, but who do you think? I'll tell you though,
I still think Perty. I think Party. I think something
about Party and the way he plays and his mentality
and his ability to be coached and all those things.
I still think he might he might be a better
option for the Giants. Sure, I don't have a problem
with that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But it's like we look at these quarterbacks to be
the difference makers, and I get that, but it oftentimes
takes more than that, and we just gloss over the
supporting cast as if it doesn't matter, and it matters
way more than we often make it out to matter.
It's like, if you put Daniel Jones with the Niners,
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his numbers look way better. If you put Brock Purdy
with the Giants, his numbers look way worse. And again
this is maybe Malik Neighbors is a stud wide receiver.
This is before this season when they had hardly anything
to work with. What is Purty doing with that offense?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
So it's just it matters, That's all I'm saying. For sure,
the supporting cast matters. You know who else matters? Brian Finley?
You know, Brian Fenley matters to me, It matters to you,
It matters to America.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
How much do I matter to you, Brian? Because I
spell my first name the right way Brian should be spelled.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Oh no, no, no no, when you spell it with the
You're just to want to be Ryan.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
That's all it is.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Actually, that's pretty good. I've never heard that before. Is
that what all Brian's would? An? I say, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Just made up off the top of my head. It's like,
you're just pretty used. You're like, where where do I?
Where do I belong? I don't know where I.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You're just an impostor Ryan, just Brian with a Y.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You don't know what's going on exactly. That is true.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
There are fewer of us, so that makes this kind
of cool.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I guess that make you an impostor Ian.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Brian An impostor Ian.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Hey, there's also Ryan Johnson who ruined Star Wars with
the Last Jedi, but luckily also did Knives Out, which
is a classic. So and that's our I a n
So you're also a fake Ryan, see it?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It loses a little bit of steam because of the
Ian Brian. You know, if most Ian's were Irons, right,
it would work a little more.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There's Ryan Why Ryan? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Is he the only guy that pronounces it iron?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
That's there are only a couple of Irons out there.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Can I tell you this. I've interviewed the guy. I've
talked to him a lot, Iron Eagles one of the
nicest dude. Here you go.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, he's awesome, dude, man, He yes, he would be
on the Portland Show. I was doing a local show,
but because he's the Nets guy, so we'd have him
on a lot to preview like a Blazers Nets game.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
He was awesome everything.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He is tremendous. He really is.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yeah, he's one of the if not the greatest. Right now,
and when it comes to play by play and what's
happening last night, as we gave you the play by
play of what happened in the world of sports.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Some baseball to get to.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Diamondbacks hammer the Dodgers nine to three thanks to those
two home runs from Christian Walker, the Royals coming up
short at home ten to eight to the Rays. Matt
Chapman going yard for the Giants as they slug it
out and win it against the Braves four to two.
Mariners overcome the Oriole seven to three. Padres take out
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the Rangers three to one. The Cubs annihilate the Phillies
ten to two, aided by those twelve hits. Copa America quarterfinals,
Yes we're going there. Soccer Argentina escaping Ecuador four to
two in penalty kicks following a one to one tie.
So there was a ton of drama down the stretch there,
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and I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
My job if I didn't mention.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
There was a tremendously important competitive eating contest.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yesterday, Major League eating.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, Patrick Bertolletti winning the Nathan Sawdog eating contest, and
he did it by shoving fifty eight hot dogs and
buns down his throat in ten minutes, by the way,
but it's hard to put a lot of esteam behind
what he did in his performance, considering that Joey chestnutt,
who has done much better and did much better, did
not participate in seid event, and he was at a
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separate fundraising event, and he did fifty seven hot dogs
in five minutes, and then afterwards he had some nice
things to say about what it means to be a
competitor and an eating legend. I never thought I'd put
competitor and eating legend in a sentence, but here we go,
speaking of two guys that are legends in sports radio. Yeah,
(30:10):
I said it. They're doing national radio. It's Jason Martin
and Brian Know.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's super kind of you, Brian?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Are should you not comparing us to Browny James?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I could compare you to anybody that's a competitive eater.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
There's only one, well, there's two. I'll take Kobe Yashi also, right,
like we know Joey Chestnut but Kobeyashi's got to be made.
I mean, Kobyashi was the original. He's the only two
competitive eaters I know. I guess I know. Pseudo.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Now, should we call Bertoletti the raptors of the competitive
eating circuit?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
There?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Right sham championships?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, because they still had Kawhi.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
They did have Kawhi, but no KD missing Clay for
basically a couple of games. Right, Yeah, I think bertlet
he's raptor ish, He's raptors like from that twenty nineteen
sham title right there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, is that a little too far?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I don't know, not necessarily. I mean, you remember when
Alabama crush Notre Dame in National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I know you'll appreciate our touchdowns. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
That almost felt like a sham because it was like,
I mean, did they actually play against another team in
that game?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now that is below the belt?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like there, how about Georgia TCU?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Now that was what was that sixty five to seven?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And that was then? It could have been much worse.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It really could have been. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So I ran across two NFL I guess you could
call them stats that made me say wow. The first
one the Cleveland Browns, so Jason. Over the last four years,
the Browns record is thirty seven and thirty So it's
it's pretty good, right, winning about fifty five percent of
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their games.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Nothing to right home about, but good?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
You would have to go all the way back.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
To nineteen eighty six through eighty nine to find a
four season span that was as successful. Think about all
the nineties, all the two thousand's, all the twenty tens,
all of that. You got to go all the way
back to the eighties to find a four season span
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where a record was at least thirty seven and thirty
for the Browns.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
For the Browns, well, I mean that.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Was Kozar and Sure Biner and you know those guys.
So I mean since then, they've kind of been the
doormat oh man of the NFL. Like I've done this before,
you may have too. We've done radio long enough that
you've probably had this moment where I've run down the
list as fast as I can, like trying to speed
read on air, all the quarterbacks that have started for
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that team. Oh sure, since Bernie Cozar. It is an
incredible list of Oh man, I forgot about You need
to hear that song from like nineteen ninety two, and
you're just kind of wondering to yourself. You're like, man, gosh,
I haven't heard that in ages. I really like that.
This is the same thing, except you didn't really like that. Yeah,
But you're like, but you think about it. I mean,
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the Dolphins have had had a list too since Apparently
I'm just taking shots at you. I'm not really, but
you had like Cleo Lemon.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Oh yeah, and some of these dudes that you just.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Completely forget about. Well, that's like the Browns entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Sure, oh they were freaking brutal for a long time.
This isn't breaking news. But thirty seven and thirty again,
it's all right, you're a few games.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Over you hope that's not what you're hanging your hat on.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, that's not amazing. Think how many teams have not
won a Super Bowl. The Cowboys are a good example.
The Cowboys would look at thirty seven and thirty over
a four season span and be like.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
That's brutal.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What They've won twelve games full of times here lately,
you know, So you don't have to go back to
the mid nineties to find a four season span where
they want at least thirty seven games.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
That hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The other thing that blew my mind is the forty
nine ers. So if you look at their schedule, they
play eight games where they'll have less rest than their opponents, right,
and that's the most in NFL history. That's what blew
my mind is they will have less rest than eight
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of their opponents, and they're like minus twenty one days
in the rest.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Teams are coming off of buy a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, teams are coming off of buye or they play
on Monday night and their opponent played on Sundays, stuff
like that. So they're at a great disadvantage in terms
of rest this season. Something to keep in mind. If
you're looking at the Niners.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They are and they're playing obviously a first place schedule,
so I mean that's a bear of a schedule. If
they get through that and they're still top couple seeds
in the NFC, they're gonna definitely have earned it, that's
for sure. That's that is not a Joey Spaghetti or
whatever his name is that won the eat contest yesterday.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I would love if his name was Spaghetti in the
hot dog contest, you know, that would have That's nice whatever, man,
I mean, maybe he should go make a name for
himself eating something else because the hot dog thing that
I think that gimmick's.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Already been taken.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, it's really interesting how much it varies, like the
first place compared to the last place schedule.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so huge.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The Niners, like you mentioned, first play schedule. So they
pick up the Chiefs, they played the Cowboys on Sunday
night and then not terrible, but they're at Tampa. But
you compare that to the last place team in their division,
the Arizona Cardinals. The Arizona Cardinals their last place schedule,
they're three games, they get the Commanders, they get the
(35:56):
Chargers at home on Monday night, and then they're at
the pan Anthers. Like that, it's night and day. A
lot of times playing a first place compared to a
left Well.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I mean look at I mean even the Ats. I
mean like do you look at San Francisco, at Miami,
at Buffalo, at Green Bay, at Tampa, you know, at Minnesota,
Like there's a lot of there's a lot of games
where it's just like, yeah, those are not ones that
I would request if I was a fan of that team,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, Yeah, that's a tough road man, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
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Just search two Pros wherever you get your podcasts, and
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the air. So I love this story. Here, j mart
We've got a Jalen Brown, member of the Boston Celtics. Yep,
just want a championship. So he had lost a ring
of his at the championship parade. This is not a
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championship ring yet, he doesn't have that. This is just
a different ring. But very nice, says Juice on it.
The Jay is spelled with the seven like his number,
and it's also his sportswear brand.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
But he lost this ring.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
He promised a big reward to whoever got the ring
back to him, and so there was a couple they
found the ring, they got in touch with Jalen Brown.
They said, hey, we got your ring, man, and again
this is the guy who signed a little more than
a three hundred million dollar contract a year ago and
promised a big reward. So if you found this ring
(39:18):
of Jalen Brown and you got it back to Jalen Brown,
what would you be hoping for in terms of a
payment there?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
See, I don't know. Do you do the reverse psychology
thing where hey man, it's yours, I can't take anything,
it's yours, you know, huh, hate that you lost it,
But in your mind you're like, but this is gonna
score me big because I'm doing this, like on the surface,
it seems like this really moral thing with a ton
(39:51):
of integrity behind it and just being a really good guy.
And he's going to really open up the bank account
for me now because I'm not coming ending a price
in advance. Or do you just say, all right, you
made three hundred mil, I need three mil, I need
three mil.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I love it. I love the approach.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I think this, unless you ask for it, you're not
getting it right. And so the couple they got as
signed basketball, they got a jersey, and they're gonna get
two court side tickets for the Celtics ring ceremony.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Just for the ceremony.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
How about for the season, right, right exactly? It should be,
should be for the season, should be for the finals.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And I give it to him and I say, hey, look,
I was trying to do a nice thing and give
him the thing back, and then he kind of shafted me.
So then I go to an interview and I'm just like,
he's a chump, Like he's not he's not an upstanding guy.
I was expecting more and he offered me nothing. I
wish i'd thrown the ring away. Like then I try
to bury him after the fact, Oh he dropped. I
(40:58):
thought maybe I dropped. Now I think we lost be
no there for just a second. But yeah, see, I
don't know. I think that there's a part of me
it's just I would just give him the ring back
because it's the right thing to do. But then there's
another part of me it's just like, I mean, this
is my opportunity to sort of win a lottery, and
I'm not gonna win the lottery because I don't play
the lottery. But yeah, you know, maybe you just take
(41:20):
whatever he gives you to say, hey, you know what
if you want to give me something that's fun. If not,
because it was a free thing for you anyway, you
just picked it up off the ground. But it is
a good story. It's fun story, unlike the hot dog
eating contest, which I'm sure is still going to be
talked about throughout the day, but I don't know that
it needs to be talked about in terms of being
a scandal or anything like that. But it's a function
(41:40):
of July fifth that there's going to be more talk
about the eating contest than maybe a lot of the
other things. But one of the thing Brian know, of course,
for being here, probably just let him go a little
bit early, maybe pay him a minute less worth of time.
The guys will be back next week. Play more where
you're listening to it, we really appreciate it. Hope you
(42:02):
enjoyed your holiday as well. Maybe there's gonna be some
WNBA to watch this weekend. I don't know. We'll watch
a little bit of Caitlin Clark. That will be about it,
all right for Brian. Now, I'm Jason Martin. We will
see you next time here on Fox Sports Radio.
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