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Marcus Freeman answers for the historic loss by Notre Dame to Northern Illinois. The guys hold Pete Prisco’s feet to the fire for his Week 1 predictions. Plus, a daily dose of “You In or Out?”

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Speaker 2 (01:53):
So Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame, I
can't wait for this one.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Following the loss to Northern Illinois over the weekend, which
by the way, Brady Quinn listened to on a k
and O X sports radio on his way back from
ann Arbor, and Marcus Freeman spoke about his team's mindset
heading into that game. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
You know, this is the first time in my three
years as a head coach that we have won the
big game. Early in the season, right, two losses to
Ohio State and then all of a sudden we win
and and everybody says, hey, you're going to the playoffs.
You got a easy schedule. We all hear and I
think we started to believe that. And there is a

(02:39):
physical approach to prepare for a game, and I think
physically we prepared the right way. But there's also a
mental approach and a mental mindset that you have to
have every single week, and I think that's where.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
We fail.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
So that's the I guess the explanation for Marcus Freeven
as to why Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think there's a couple of things that this is
just my perspective from playing, having played there, being on
the outside now, which I feel like is always unique
because everyone tells you when you're there, like you really
don't understand the magnitude of Notre Dame until you leave,
And it's true, you know, you don't understand the reach
it has, you don't understand the pole it has, how

(03:28):
people identify you, and it's very true from that sense
that it's always a part of you, you know, and
a lot of other schools feel like that. But the
Catholic institution obviously has a greater poll because of the
Catholic Church and etc. So we don't need get off
on that tangent. But the general point is when you

(03:51):
go to Notre Dame, you kind of take on this
identity of like there's always been national attention, and for
the guys that use the go threat of high school,
I feel like they oftentimes have a better feeling for
what they're signing up for, maybe not fully being aware
of it, but having a pretty good sense as opposed
to in the world of nil when when guys come

(04:14):
from different schools, they really don't know, especially if they're
only going to be there for a year. So it's
like it's almost as if like they had this other
college experience and then they go to this and they're like, whoa,
this is really different, Like I don't you know, I
haven't been in a program that's like kind of trained me, prepared.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Me to adapt to this, and it's very very different.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
So I think that approach is difficult for every transfer
that comes in to be on the big stage like
that and the national attention that comes along with it.
And there's obviously other places too that you know, they
kind of battle that same thing. That's kind of one
thing to where I think the mentality is you have
to understand everyone's always going to give you their best

(04:56):
shot because you're Notre Dame. And it's gonna sound biased
because I'm a Notre Dame man, but I experienced that.
I understand the trash talk that I heard being in
that stadium, being on that field, and the things people
would say, and then the things they talk about. How
you know you'd get a lesser team that would come
in there. Well, I mean, look, we never played group
of five teams, so I can't speak to that, but

(05:18):
you would get teams that would come in there and
say like, hey man, we're making history today, like we're
gonna remember this one forever.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
They'd say things like four for forty, we remember these
next four years for the next forty, you know, And
they say things like that because for Northern Illinois in
their program, that is the biggest win in their program's history,
not just because of the ranking, but because of who
it is, the proximity of Northern Illinois to South Bend,
all of that, everything that that encompasses. And I think

(05:46):
the thing that you have to be able to train
your team and thing you have to be able to
do is realize that there just because the schedules perceive
to be easier, which it is. I mean, I think
we'd all agree looking at their schedule for the state
doesn't look as good. They already got past Texas and
m Louisville. Okay, they'll they'll be ranked, they'll be good.
USC could be good, but it doesn't matter. Everyone's gonna

(06:07):
give you their best shot, like Louisville couldn't wait to
get you in their house last year and look how
that ended up. So you have to prepare yourself mentally,
emotionally to be there for that every single week because
they're gonna pull something out that they've never showed before.
They're gonna throw the kitchen sink, they're gonna do something
that's gonna be unique to this game. To take that shot,

(06:27):
to take that chance, and that's just unfortunately. I think
one of the things that became someone apparent last week
is that for a home opener, when if you're a
player coming out, especially if to be your last year,
there for your home opener, you should be running out
of that tunnel with your head on fire, ready to
decapitate someone on defense or ready to just go ahead

(06:50):
and just bludgeon someone on offense up front and dominate.
And unfortunately, that was not the way the game went.
It didn't seem like that was the mentality of the team.
I don't know all the sigers that go into it,
but that's the thing moving forward, is like every it
doesn't matter Purdue's coming off of buy you gotta go
to their house. I don't care what the perception is
of Purdue. You're gonna get their best shot. You're going

(07:12):
to get their best shot. There's gonna be stuff you
haven't seen before. And so that's what they're gonna have
to deal with now every single week, understanding that that's
the position they put themselves in.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Is it as concerns. So this is what my thought was.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
It would be one thing like if Notre Dame had
come out and you know, like losing the game, I
get it, but the fact that there was no response
in game that there was they trailed for a lot
of that game by the time they took the lead,
then it just it felt like there was no real
adjustment or wake up call throughout the course of the game,

(07:46):
Like they went down early and there was no real
response like I would assume, like and we've seen team
like Penn State was losing to Bowling Green and then
Penn State figured it out and ended up and responded
and ended up winning that game. And it didn't look
pretty and it wasn't what everybody expected, but at least
there was a response. It didn't feel like there was
any response in game, and it was almost like I

(08:09):
can get Marcus Freeman saying, yeay, we started to believe
our own height. But there was no point during the
game where they said, hey, wait a second, guys, we're
in a dog fight here against a mac A Max school,
a team that we should not be in a dogfight
in with. Let's get this together and let's finish this
game off. And there was none of that. And I
just wonder how concerning is that based on the fact that, yeah,

(08:29):
coming into the game, I get it, you weren't ready
to go that happens, But even during the three plus
hours the game was going on, there didn't seem like there.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Was much of a change.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
When I think that's in coming on the players that
are there in player leadership, I think that's one of
the dynamics that's difficult to deal with when you do
have portal players. You know, when you do have guys
coming in that you're looking for leadership out of they've
already got a number of things they're dealing with. They're
dealing with the transition to a new campus, new place,
they're still learning their daily life classes, et cetera. They're
dealing with a new offense. They're dealing with all these things.

(09:04):
So there's a lot of newness that makes it difficult
to be able to make it all come together in
one year's time with no preseason, none of that. And again,
and not the point to Riley Leonard specifically, but he's
as the quarterback of Notre Dame. You always get more
blame than you should get more credit than you should get.
And they're passing struggle. I think they're ranked like one
hundred and thirtieth. They've yet to throw a touchdown pass.

(09:25):
They're one of four or five teams. So of course
that's going to be where blame goes or criticism goes.
But people have to take you into account. I said
this before he had multiple surgeries in the offseason. He
did not play in the spring game. It's an entirely
new offense, not just for him but for everyone else too,
So he's adjusting to developing chemistry with the guys he's
throwing to. Along with the chemistry with this offensive line

(09:48):
along with his feel for the offense. So there's a
bunch of reasons where like if you play out that
money money Carlos scenario or simulator, Yeah, Northern Illinois, some
of those ten thousand different scenarios was gonna be Notre
Dame if they don't have their best day. And not
only did they not have their best day, they probably
head close to their worst. I mean, again, a lot

(10:09):
of the blame goes on the offense, but it's I
mean the defense gave up some big plays. The defense
allow how you know, various things to happen. I mean,
when you lose like that, everyone's involved. And I said
it yesterday and I'll reiterate it. It's one of the
worst losses in Notre Dame history. Show me another time
there's been a top ten rank Notariame team that's lost
to a group of five team where they're a four

(10:30):
touchdown favorite and on top of that being a four
touchdown favorite. But as your home opener, I mean, LaVar,
that's where I sit there and just go like it's
tough to deal with, like not having the juice for
a home opener, and I think Penn State could relate
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
To my I'm sitting here just listens ustrates you. I
think everybody was in shock. I think I was getting
sick to my stomach, like I can't believe that these
guys have opened up this time. We haven't stopped them
like I was. I just remember in my head, I'm
sitting there talking to myself, like, there's no possible way

(11:10):
that we're not going to Well, you did get.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Them, SHO got that fly.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
There's just there's there's no way we can lose our
home opener to bowling Green, no offense to bowling Green.
You know, I thought that they were well coached, well prepared.
I thought that their game plan and their strategy was
was was superior.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
To what we had going on defensively.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
But even with that being said, I'm like, okay, halftime,
we got to make the adjustments and and really at
the end of the day, what needs to happen is
we need to assert ourselves in a way where we
showed dominance up front. It's gonna all start up front,
and I would assume that that's what would have happened

(12:07):
with No they're dame too, Like just the idea of
understanding the difference between the smaller schools and the bigger
schools is generally going to be in the trenches offensively. Defensively,
you should not be able to withstand the amount of
strength and depth that a Power five team has. But yeah,

(12:33):
I mean I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
And I was tremendously I don't want to say I
was like thinking we were going to lose, cause I
felt like halftime. Halftime is like, come on, guys, Like halftime,
you adjust, you come out, and you do what you
need to do. Because we had offense going Our offense

(12:53):
was really was really doing well.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
We were like the.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Jets right Our offense was not really kind of story.
Our offense was scoring, they were doing what they needed
to do, but our defense could not stop Bowling Green's
Office offense. And that was that was concerning, and it
was concerning to me not to lose to them. It
was concerning to me for what we got to go
through for the rest of the season. But I think

(13:19):
they tightened it up in and were able to pull
it together. But yeah, I was sitting there feeling the
same type of way for a moment like this cannot happen,
can't lose at home.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Steve Sharkesian was basically telling his team and said afterwards,
you know, we're looking at Notre Dame as like the example,
like don't do what happened there where all of a
sudden you start to believe the highest I.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Felt like that was Florida State and that was legitimately
a good like Georgia Tech is a major Division one school,
it's a program, but you still were like looking at it,
like Georgia Tech isn't going to beat Florida State. So
there was the caution that was the tale of caution
right there. Don't be that team that's favorite and allow
a team to sneak up on you and and hit

(14:03):
you in the mouth.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Like I kind of the Florida State when I can
understand more because look it's all the way over in Ireland,
like you know, we we don't. It's a neutral field.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's week one, and that takes coming off of an
undefeated season and and yes sort of and brought in Ukulele,
you know what I mean, you'd have thought that they
were going to be much better than what they ended

(14:36):
up being so far.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, it's home opener and and just not not a
whole lot of response. But who they got Miami with
Ohio is their next home game in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I feel bad for them, man. I bet you they
like the amount of misery and feeling miserable in practice
and how hard they're probably going to practice and how
hard those coaches are going to run with.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
The tough part is is like Mima Ohio is actually
all right, and like Chuck Martin, he was that Notre Dame,
so he knows the staff, you know, he knows the air.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
He knows that he knows all of it.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
So they are going to rock them, I hope so
that they're going to come out. I mean, it's just
it's just the understanding of what they did, the magnitude
of what they did. Like they they they got to
look at each other and be like, if we don't
whip the s out of everybody else we see moving forward,

(15:42):
we will be remembered as possibly the most disappointing team
that's played here. I just can't see that what it
is for a Notre Dame, a golden domer.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm gonna mention something. I don't know if I said
this yesterday or not. I'm curious to get you guys
take because this is Tom Foyneller from CBS.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
He said that a loss.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Against a team like that that was that unexpected, that's
that bad, means Notre Dame should not be deserved to
make the playoff. Now, my comment and rebuttal would be, well,
that's why we have a subjective committee, because if Notre
name goes twelve and one or excuse me, eleven to one,
that's up for them to decide. Then if they had
a bad day and got beat.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
But how do you guys know just that is?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is something that I heard people like kind of
saying like, well, they're eliminated from the playoff, and like, well,
wait a second, there's a lot of football left to
be played.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So I don't look at it.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Aaron Taylor I was watching the Iowa Iowa State game
and it was still on afterwards, and he was making
the point, obviously a Notre Dame guy, and he was
upset about it, and.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
His point was there's not enough quality wins.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Left on the schedule to get them into the playoff
that he thinks thinks there dumb, yeah, No, it could
have been just emotional in the moment he was, he
was clearly just half.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
That's when because at the end of the day, we
can say all of that, but teams are going to lose.
Teams are going to lose, So you got to take
that into consideration all things giving sure, if every team
that's within the top fifteen don't lose, which I'm certain

(17:21):
somebody plays somebody, it does.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Put even more focus on that final game against UC. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I mean, all they got to do is win out,
win out, because somebody's going just like Notre Dame gave
it away, somebody else is going to give it away
and give it right.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Back, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Like, that's that's sports, that's college sports. I don't think
there's any time to soak or feel bad about it.
Just kick everybody's ass the rest of the way and
the rest of it will work out. I don't think
that it's a oh, they don't deserve to be in
the playoff now. They lost, they lost, you know what
I mean, Like they lost to George Florida State lost
to Georgia Tech. Bounce back, they didn't. You lost to

(18:03):
the who in Northern Illinois bounce back and went out.
Because somebody's going to do the same exact thing, and
they're going to do it in a moment that's going
to be super advantageous for somebody to get into the
twelve man or yeah, a twelve team playoff.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't think they're eliminated at all.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
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on pristo?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
How are we feeling so? Pete?

Speaker 8 (19:45):
You know, it's amazing that LeVar and Brady decided to
show up today. We're scared.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Why is that?

Speaker 8 (19:52):
I don't know why? Why were you ht?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
That's when the that's when the internet crashed? O.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Okay, all right, we had some technical issues, Pete.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Pete took some liberties to kind of just, you know,
spout off, say whatever he wants. Pete, how are your pickstling?
Given that I whooped you the past two years.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Well, you haven't whip me, beat me by a half
a game last.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Year we had to we had to give you all
these prop bets and special exceptions in the playoffs because
you got trounced in the regular Yeah, no one will remember.

Speaker 8 (20:20):
Anyway, he beat He beat me, but barely, and I'll
give him credit where credits do he beat me? But
so far this week I was eight six and two
against the spread.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's good for you, Pete's good for you, Pete?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Can I ask you because this is one of my
favorite things to do that Brady has pointed out that
you like to do. So this is why I feel
like you and I are are thinking along the same
lines here. Which game did you get wrong? But we're
still on the right side of afterwards?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yes, this is great?

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Which one did I get?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Brady?

Speaker 8 (20:53):
Brady? Brady hates that because it's.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
The stupidest thing. Pete. I'm with you. I do the
same thing. Come on, let's hear.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
I'm trying to think of one of the games that
I got well, I mean, I did get Jackson the Bengals,
I was no, the Bengals was a mess. Nobody got
that one right?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That was I know. But were you on the right
side of that one? It just whatever happened there? You
got it wrong?

Speaker 8 (21:14):
No, I was on the wrong side. That was disgusting.
That was no. Which one was I on the right side? God,
that's a good question. I'm trying to think off the
top of my head.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You know what Steelers were You on the right side
of the Steelers?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
Wait? Oh, it irritates them so much. When I used
to do that, it would be like, oh, to be
on the right side when you didn't get it wrong? Well,
it was right side something fluky.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Apps, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, it's always food gayzy, it's fluky. Whatever with you,
Pete Peter don't want to transition to the New York Giants.
We were caught up about this, but I'm either already
feeling questions about Daniel Jones getting benched for one weekend
of the season.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
How bad is this going to get in New York.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
Well, it's gonna get bad. It's gonna get bad for
the front office. It's going to get bad for Brian Dabele.
I mean, and then you have a former New York
Giant defensive coordinated kind of sitting out there without a job.
You know, Bill Belichick and you know that. You know
the Marrack family. They love to go back to their
roots and go back to people who have links to
their organization. So I think I think it's bad for

(22:12):
Brian Daviel. Daniel Jones was awful the other day. But
more than that, the opfensive line, which was supposed to
be improved, wasn't improved. The pass rush, which was supposed
to be improved, wasn't improved. They have major issues, and
you know, it's it's never as bad as it looks
in week one, other than Carolina, but it's But so
I think they have a chance to bounce back this
week because Washington didn't exactly light it up either. But

(22:34):
there's big problems in Newbork.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Pete, did you see what Tiki Barber had to say
about Daniel Jones. No, what did he say Where the
quote where he was saying that he thinks that people
would agree with him that he would take Daniel Jones
over Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
That quote is out there.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
That's a moronic take. I mean, that's that's like, that's
like something he used to say when he.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Worked next Tank.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
There's no way anybody over Prescott.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Why do you say stuff like this, Pete, I mean,
it's like, by the way, I've already gotten word that
you're already getting into it with your new co host
down there about them trying to teach you stuff about
defensive back play and all that.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I heard you got sensitive already, Tang.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
Well, you know that was Logan, Logan Ryan. He jumped in,
he emptied the chamber the first day, and now he
has nothing left. It's kind of like when you got
in there and they all told me, they said, you
have to break Brady because Brady's never been checked, because
he was always is a dark quarterback. And by the
time Brady left, I had broken him.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
When on the Bar Show, Pete, there was no way
you broke me and Chad, not not us together.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
That that's no.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
The only thing, the only thing that's ever broken Pete
was the flu he got in Atlanta when he had
to go get a special shot for some doctor that
supposedly revived him.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
In the Watson, he.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Was a miracle worker. Whatever he gave.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
You were like the Shawn Watson this last That's one
of the great quotes ever said on this show. Whatever
he gave me my ass, he was a miracle worker.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
That's why I shot a shot a needle.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Okay, yeah, okay, good, I'm glad we cleared that update
that league.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's really funny.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Actually, now that you put it in that context, it
hit me.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Hey, Pete, can I ask you this?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
And watching and and and picking what's going on in
the league this year?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
All right?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
You we talked about no one seeing what happened with
New England, but when you look at some of these teams,
you know, it's kind of like, well, we talked about
the New York Giants, but let's talk about the New
York Jets.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
From last night.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I'm not high on them, but and I'm I'm I'm
not saying that because they lost last night. I'm not
sure what they'll do the rest of the way, but
I do not have them making the playoffs. What has
been your vision of them?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
How?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
How are you looking at them? How would you like,
you know, kind of what they say, fade them or whatever.
How would you look at this New York Jets team
for this season?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well?

Speaker 8 (25:17):
I thought they'd be better than what they looked like
last night. And it's not just you know Rogers. I
thought the offensive line would be better. I thought the
defense would be the same old defense, and they were
bad on defense. That's what stood out to me. They
were really bad on defense, and they got pushed around
in the run game that you know, they got guys

(25:39):
wide open in the secondary oft times. It just didn't
look like their defense. And on the offense, the offensive
line wasn't great. Rogers, you know, has one weapon basically,
and you know, up until a late run, Breest Hall
was averaging two point six per carry. So they have
issues and big issues. And I don't know if Rogers
can you know, become Rogers and overcoming because they don't

(26:01):
have a lot of weapons. I mean, who's he's throwing
to his buddy Alan Lazard. Alan Zzard doesn't scare anybody.
They have major issues, and I don't like my pick
of them going deep into the playoffs as the as
the wildcard team, I think.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
The division, well, who are your super Bowl picks on
that note?

Speaker 8 (26:18):
What's that? Brady?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Who are your super Bowl picks? On that note?

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Can I can I take Jets?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
You said the Jets?

Speaker 8 (26:27):
No? I picked the Packers and the Bills.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Okay, that's not bad because I was about to say,
do you think that the Bills are going to win
that division?

Speaker 8 (26:37):
I think the Builders. I think the Builds are is
just as good as they've always been, and they will
go down to Miami on Thursday night and Josh Allen
will owe the Dolphins like he always does, and there'll
be two to zero and sit in the top of
the division. I mean that, everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You well, you have to understand LeVar, there's a long, long,
reaching back conversation that it's just it doesn't make any sense.
So Pete, on Draft night, when Joe Burrow has taking
number one overall by the Cincinnati Bengals, he said he
would win multiple super Bowls. That's the quote, Pete, Stop
trying to back away from it. Here's the problem. What

(27:13):
year is this for Joe Burrow in the league?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Seven? Is this seventh year?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
He had chick for Burrow. Didn't think it might be
a seventh.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Okay, but it wasn't multiple. I didn't say multiple.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
First off, stop getting into your cover three deep middle
backpedal A right. You said it, You said it, you
said it's Here's the crazy part, Pete, here's the crazy part.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
He never picks them.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
He makes this proclamation and then he never thinks the
Cincinnati Bengals are going to win a super Bowl. Look,
maybe the slow start and they obviously last week one
is part of that. But Pete, you can't keep not
picking them. If you said something and you still believe
it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Well, maybe next year I'll pick them, But but.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
You won't because you said that last year and you
didn't pick him this year.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
I said one maybe, well after after after Sunday, I'm
glad I didn't pick him. Awful.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean, so, Pete, are you going, Pete, are you
gonna be wrong about that one?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Or you're gonna keep pushing it off twenty twenty, I
still pick.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
To have.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Then in the next couple of years.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean maybe the Burl's only been four years.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
This is fifth season, twenty twenty years and on no point,
and on no point have you picked so you got
you got five years for them to win too.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
No, I said one, maybe two?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I didn't know you said multiple. You said multiple.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Sounds like he's owning you right now, Pete, Are you
going to let this just happen on the show like this?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It sounds like Q is owning you, Pete, Pete, I
don't want to hype in it. Listen.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't want to get you know, get us in
any more. Trouble here and get you anymore. He I
did want to get your thoughts on this. Will Levis
had maybe the worst interception of the weekend. And you
have heard, I've already seen from people on X about
your support of Will Levis.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
You are a believer in him.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
How bad was the inbox and the replies to you
following that terrible pick six from Will Levis in Chicago?

Speaker 8 (29:21):
Oh oh, they get killed me, I mean, and rightfully
for that interception. Rightfully so it was. It was bad.
It was a dumb play, and he'd be first when
he said it after the game it was super play
and rightfully so. But again, was he the worst quarterback
in that game that day? He made the worst play,
But was he the worst quarterback the other guy? Nobody?

(29:41):
Everybody just glosses over the Is that the bar.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Though, Pete for a year? He's been in the league
for a year, Pete, is that the bar?

Speaker 8 (29:50):
What'd you say?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Is that the bar for comparison?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You're comparing him to a rookie in his first start
ever versus a guy who's been in the league.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
For a year.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah, but pray, this guy's made seven starts himself. Seven,
He's got what he's got seven more than that rookie
dead seven.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, and he's also sat back and watched and seeing
the game, playing and everything else that goes on. There
is something to that. So you can say it starts
all you want. He's been in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
For a year.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Okay, so so he's got seven more starts and and
and he was playing on the road against a better defense,
one of the better defenses in the league, and he
opened the season. He didn't play that great, but it
was just the other guy on the other side was
just as bad. You want to go around the league
and talk about bad quarterback play, there's a lot of Atlanta.
Let's go down to Atlanta and you're.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Pound Are you back?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Are you back pounding away at Kirk Cousins? Are you
back hammering Kirk Cousins?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
What'd you say?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Are you back hammering Kirk Cousins? Back at it again? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Just so you guys know, you know what, you know
what happened before that game.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
I'll tell you exactly what happened before the game. When
they went in there. The Steelers were warming up and
they were telling everyone walking around on the field saying, hey,
it's a big game. It's a big game, and Kirk
curt it was a big game. Of course the moment.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is Pete had to eat his words.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Pete had to eat his words for like the past
two years because because it has played so well and
then and then now he keeps bringing back these same
narratives so different than Russell Wilson. Like when Russell Wilson
comes back to start and play, Pete will literally lamb
based him every Tuesday that you come on the show.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Is that is that I'm true?

Speaker 8 (31:21):
Pete russe stakes.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Even even if.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
He wins Player of the Week, Pete will not mention that.
You know, hey, Pete, you know you know what I
like about your approach.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Somebody gets on to you about will love us, and
you're like, oh yeah, watch this and you just turned
the gun around on everybody else and every other quarterback's
got it.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Good stuff there he is, Pete. We love till Pete till.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
It's always good to come home with guys I've owned.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Over the years.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Pete enjoy ever beating me in picks, all right, enjoy that.
It's get him on x at Priscos. Pete Prisco, senior
NFL columnists for CBS Sports and CBS Sports HQ.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
That was fun. He's the best man. I'll tell you
this much. Just from working with him for.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Almost a decade, you guys would probably say I'm combative.
Pete is like the ultimate combative person on set. There'd
be times when he would start off an argument, like
arguing for something, and then by the end of it,
he'd be turning around arguing that's the point against himself,
like the point that you initially made keep be on
your side, but wouldn't want to agree to him. It's like,

(32:35):
it's the most confusing thing I've ever dealt with in
my life.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's having a discussion with Pete Prisky. Do you see
what he did? It was really like jiu jitsu.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
He just went the subject of Will Levis, whose guy
gets brought up? And he literally went after Caleb Williams,
Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Hey, that's the proper that's the proper thing to do,
proper thing to.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Do this to me. Used to do this.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
We used to do our picks, and we would do
our previews of the game. And he's got these different petisms.
So he brings out the quarterback scales. So in essence,
every single time there was a game where there was
a quarterback, whether it's he loves Rogers, always picked Rogers,
He'll always picked Josh Allen h Help, usually picked Burrow.

(33:23):
But there's like others that he'll never pick, like Kirk Cousins,
like Russell Wilson. So he would always default to the
quarterback scale. And he does this demonstration where he literally
takes his hand above his head, he drops it. He's
like a quarterback scales. It's like Rogers, and he's just
like Rogers is better. So like that's that's like a

(33:43):
very succinct way of picking games. But that's how Pete
would do it.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I mean we were one weekend and he's already off
and running.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knoxon
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Speaker 3 (34:02):
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Coming from.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
A Fall, Two pros and a cup of Joe, Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you Dibbs. Yeah,
we're gonna be back on there tomorrow six am Eastern Time,
three o'clock Pacific.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
No, Lely, shoot that the wrong lease shooting at the
wrong monitor? Kelly, Why are you shooting at Michael Jackson?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Lee? Hey, yeah you're here? No more? What Lly? What
you doing with?

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh we knew you, by the way.

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Speaker 3 (35:08):
Two pros and a cup of show what even enough?
If they're at least or if.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
They're out all right? Lead lap what we got guys.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
There is a documentary call coming out called Aaron Rodgers Enigma,
and the docuseries will reportedly chronicle his uh jets, his
return from the Achilles ten to tear three part docuseries
coming out in Netflix.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh watch it, I'm in Well, I don't have time.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Honestly, it sounds cool, but I just I've got this
ankle situation right now.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I got my own injury I'm coming off from. Is
that swelling gone down at all or not much? I mean,
do I trust me?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I've been doing everything of it. Man, I'm scared of
what you may do with it. I've gotten really ugly.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Are you being serious? Yeah? Man, Yeah, he sent me
a piece. Scared of what wh what is? I don't know,
but he was he was wearing was icing it was.
I was not.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He was wearing cross That was my watching that had
a nice walk.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Scared of what I might do with it. What do
you think I do with my spirit? I just see
the stuff to get cute, to see the stuff you said.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't know. I'm not sure what's gonna be happening.
I never sent anything personal. No, but you know, I
don't know it is Uh, it was pretty swollen. So
that's cold blooded, dude. Trust me. I was out when
I was out doing it.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
As soon as I drove back, I was like, hey,
I'm gonna need some help getting the kids out of
the car. Al she walked outside, she goes, oh my gosh,
were you hopping or were you able to walk?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Honestly, I thought I was gonna throw up it.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
That's why I thought, like, all right, maybe my boy's
a little bit of shock because I heard it kind
of like a pop, and I wasn't sure if I
like tore something or broke something.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
But it was like a little bit like I'm just
trying to get the.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Kids inside and like get him situated to go to bed,
and then i'llorry about it later.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
But yeah, it took me back.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It was like when you had like a real injury
where you're like, oh my gosh, like somebody just snapped
in my body.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
That's how I felt. Damn what else we got, guys?

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Ryan Seacrest uh daan as the host of Wheel of Fortune,
apparently failed to mention Pat Sajack. But yeah, Ryan Seacrest,
the new host of Wheel of Fortune. Hey listen, now,
that guy works his ass off.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah. I don't know how he does it.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
I don't know how he has the time to have
as many jobs as he does, but does a damn
good job and Wheel of Fortune's fun.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, you could probably put him in like any role
and he'd be good.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah, I'm not going to watch it, but I'm in
on it. I support him, I'm in I support that's
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
And speaking of somebody who's good in every role, this, uh,
this is kind of old news, but it got past me.
Nicholas Cage is going to be playing John Madden in a.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Movie on the showy Yeah you actually? Men did I yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Because then we started talking about who else should play it,
and we brought up Frank Frank, Frank, my bad Frank,
and he listened to the show. We talked about this before,
but we know that might have been one. That might
have been one of them nights.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I can't do that was one of them night John
Candy's name was thrown out. Lee might have missed that show.
Just remember that.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah, John Candy would have been a dope. Madden bad
a way.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Put down the bottom. International friendlies in soccer.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
We got the United States versus New Zealand out in.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Mexico versus Canada, and on Lee not remembering that, we
talked John Matten and he was here and gave us
the topic.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
And on that Lee, I do a lot of things. Please, please,
gonna come in tomorrow and go. Did you guys see
the Chiefs from the Super Bowl?

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Bye,
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