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October 11, 2024 37 mins

Kyle Shanahan knows how to beat the Seahawks in Seattle. The Bears pursuing Tom Brady him in free agency reveals Mitch Trubisky as “that f-ing guy.” Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.

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(01:12):
I'll say this about the Seattle Seahawks. First of all,
they're not a very good team. Secondly, those old school
unis and that venue are as good as it gets.
And I don't think that Seattle gets talked about enough
as far as being one of the great venues. But
it is beautiful, especially when you see just sort of
shots outside. That place is fantastic, man, just the entire city.

(01:35):
And I know you played there a little bit, Brady.
That's a cool spot man to see it.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
You know, it's by falling away one of the best
stadium's environments everything in the NFL. It's a special fan
base too, you know, the old twelfth Man theme and
all that. It's real. I mean, you go to other
stadiums and it's loud and it's everything else, but that place,
when it is rocking, it's a tough place to be
able to come back when you're behind. It's a huge

(02:03):
advantage for them. Communication wise. We've seen the stats and
the numbers through the years too, as fall as far
it fallse starts and how that's usually impacted teams and
their defense being to get off the field. So it's
it's a crazy place. It's why last night's victory and
the way San Francisco did it is by design. They
know it's a divisional opponent. In order to be able

(02:25):
to not allow that crowd to get into it, you
got to start off fast, You got to find a
way of taking the lead, and you have to really
stay ahead. You know, you have to not allow them
to really to find any momentum whatsoever in that game.
And even though Seattle found at points they brought it
back to within one score, for the most part, San
Francisco dominated that game and the crowd really never played

(02:45):
a factor.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You know who's really good against Seattle in their career?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Who's that?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
LeVar Arrington? Four and one? Yeah, against Seattle in his career.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
He loves Seattle. Is that true?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:57):
How you know that?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
You know, got my stats?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
We can look stuff up. He actually called his his
his rat friend from Chaka Cheese. He gave him that step.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
So still disturbing that you got two of those in
your life.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I mean what, honestly, I see a lot more often
than the other Wow. And I'm not talking about.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
You doing a lot of damage here, a lot of
hurt feelings on this show. I forget that Friday hurt
feeling Friday here on this show.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The forty nine Ers coach Kyle Shanahan, he did talk
about just sort of the team's approach heading into this game,
especially when you know things got a little bit closer
down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
You know that we're sick about those two losses that
we had, and we know, you know, I talked about
some heart losses are harder than others, and when you
feel like you had those one especially division games, that's
made us sick about it. And you know, we've gone
on a stretch here the last two years where we've
won a lot of games in a row and a
lot of the fourth quarters and some of those win
strings these last two years haven't been that tight, and

(04:02):
guys have been able to relax a little bit on stuff.
And we've been talking about how these two losses are
a reminder and how the NFL works, and I think
we got a little spoiled in that way of just
human nature of sometimes feeling too relaxed and you can
never feel to relax.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
It is true if you look back at those two losses,
the gag job against the Rams and whatever the hell
that was against the Cardinals, this is a five and
one football team.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, they're sitting at five hundred.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
And there's kind of a feeling that like, well, you know,
they're not the same. Yeah, they've got the injuries and
all that to go along with it. But even with
all that said, they should be five and one and
they're sitting at five hundred.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Because of those times.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
I was selling that stock you already. I was. I'm
not now right, but I was. I mean I didn't,
I wasn't a believer in it, but I mean they
last night.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
How many times do you hear you are what your
record says you are. I mean that's every coach, every organization,
everyone said that at some point. Yeah, And I think
that teams that are undefeated are the teams that have
one loss at this point. They don't talk about as
much because they don't want to focus on anything other
than that that next opponent, that next week. You know,
the teams that are struggling or the teams that are
five hundred, like San Franz that could have been better,

(05:13):
should have been better, Like, you've got the opportunity now
the next week kind of they just played, but like
the next opportunity they get to go out and prove it.
And that's the reality of the NFL. That's why, like
when people say those stats, people make those comments, it's
part of it. And you look back at the end
of the season and that's that's one of those things
you look at and say, Okay, is there a trend?

(05:33):
You know, hey, we lost these tight games. Why do
we lose these tight games? Well, it was a penalty, here,
was a lack of execution, you know here, you know
something in the red zone here? Okay, like those are
the things we need to focus on cleaning this thing up.
Or even yeah, your bye week or for example, with
a longer break. Now if there's Ay night football, they'll
they'll take it as a mini buy and I'll start
to look at that and say, hey, hey, guys, these

(05:54):
are the points of emphasis we need to clean up
as we move forward. So that's typically why you hear
that coach talk now, because that's what they're going to
focus on, trying to improve upon whatever those mistakes were,
whatever they felt like they lost those tight games in
the past, tried to changement before.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, well, we do have an update elsewhere in
the NFL A guy who you know, potentially wanted to
be a forty nine ers quarterback. I know they at
least kicked the tires on trying to trade for him,
Tom Brady, back in the day when Jimmy Garoppolo they
weren't sure whether or not he was going to be healthy.
They you know, considered, hey, what about bringing in Tom.
They tried to trade for him once before as well too.

(06:33):
They have not been shy about admitting that. Brock Purty
knows about that. All of that said, Tom Brady kind
of made some noise when he pointed out a couple
of weeks ago that one of the teams, if not
Tampa Bay, that he would have considered going to, was
the Chicago Bears. That they were very stealth in their
approach in trying to get Tom Brady to come play

(06:54):
for the Bears back when he left the New England
Patriots in twenty twenty. Well, George McCaskey, the owner of
the Bears, he spoke about that situation recently.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
That seems like ancient history at this point. But I
do remember we were interested in pursuing him and didn't
work out for us.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
Worked out great for.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Him with Tampa.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Anytime you're in a situation like that, you're not putting
all of your eggs in one basket, so you're looking
at alternatives. It's the same and free agency. It's the
same in the draft. You know, if the person you're
targeting isn't available, if you want to make sure that
you've done your due diligence on all other options. So
that was one option that we were looking at.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
God, Tom, just be thankful you didn't go. You went
to Tampa Bay, as you should have gone. They were
a fringe playoff team in Chicago. They were nowhere close
to where Tampa was as far as the roster goes.
And he made the right decision.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
He was there and won a super Bowl in his
first year.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Wouldn't happen?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I questioned, If he did, they would have screwed it
up somehow, some way, they would have screwed it up.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
No, I don't know that, to be certain, I don't know.
Tom Brady man tom Brady effect, that's what they call it,
The Tom Brady effect.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Does this not bring up through the fact that remember
when he said, like.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
You can keep him for that guy, for that guy
who was the quarterback at that time.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
It was Mitch Trubisky. That's an easy one. I mean,
is that now connecting the dots, I thought a quarterback
was Vegas.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, everyone assumed it was.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Ever assumed it was because no one thought that Tom
Brady be interested in Chicago. But now connecting all the dots,
you're still you're sticking.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
With that fing guy.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
And uh, because like if he had such an issue,
because if you think about it, if he had such
an issue with the Raiders making that decision, then why
is he so tight with Mark Davis that now he's
going to be brought up potentially as an owner. Like
if you would have held a grudge of their choice
to keep Derek Carr, I wouldn't imagine that his relationship

(09:01):
with Mark Davis would be what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And so now that you add in the idea that
it could have been the.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Bears, Trubisky makes a ton of sense, which you know,
sucks for Trubisky to have to hear, but it does
make some sense now that you look back on it.
And now we kind of get that question answered as
to who maybe he was talking about. Does feel like
it would have been Trubisky over Derek?

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I mean, that's an easy winner. I'll tell you that
easy winner. Where's Mitch at now?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Buffalo?

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:31):
I mean is it thirteen?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah? Listen, he wasn't that bad with the Bears, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
No, I mean it didn't seem like it was the
most functional situation there.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Four.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah, Matt Naggie kind of kind of steered everybody in
the wrong direction when it came to that.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
But you know, he went.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
To Tampa Bay as he should have, and he was fantastic,
and even when they didn't win the Super Bowl, and
you know, I think it was Aaron Rodgers got the MVP,
like you could argue Tom Brady should have been the
MVP like and if not for a blown coverage against
the Rams in a playoff game, maybe they're making another
run towards the Super Bowl. Like he did exactly what

(10:10):
he should have gone and gone to the Bucks. That
team was ready to go. They just needed a quarterback
that wasn't gonna throw thirty picks. Tom Brady was that guy,
so he stepped in and got it done. Plus you know,
better weather, you know, COVID restrictions. Probably a little bit
loud to be himself, Yeah, a.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Little bit more lenient.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Everything went fine for Tom.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
So that's that's where we stand with the Chicago Bears
pursuit of a quarterback. But they might have one now
in Caleb Williams, you know, and they're they're in London
taking on the Trevor Lawrence led Jacksonville Jaguars, who I
think their flight was delayed heading out there. The Bears
have been out there since Tuesday, and I think the Jaguars,

(10:55):
because of the hurricane, their flight was delayed. So I
don't know if that impacts anybody's thought on how it
goes when it comes to that matchup this weekend.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But are you liking the nine thirty kickoff times?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Oh, Brady? On the East coast there you like? Yeah,
I love it, man, And I think I mean, you're
an early riser. I thought I thought you'd like it
on the West coast. But I mean, to wake up
on Sunday and it would be the Lord's Day and
also football, I mean, you just feel blessed, just just blessed.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I meant ten am out here every single week, Like
it's That's.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
What I'm saying. You guys get it, you got you
guys get to experience that every week for US East
Coasters though, you know, we get to get some stuff
done in the morning, you know, make sure we go
to church and uh they get back for all the games.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
And all that. Yeah, to go to church.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Got to it is.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Oh, by the way, I should be pointed out here
that I know everyone's looking around going you know, why
does it feel a little bit different? Like why is
it today so special?

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Us?

Speaker 9 (11:50):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Football Friday?

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Friday, Yeah, Friday.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
Football Friday, Friday football Friday comes, it's Friday. It's Friday, Friday.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Listen Friday, Friday, Friday. Come on, ye, come on, let
me do it for Addy.

Speaker 10 (12:28):
We gotta Sunday, got it all, got it off, we
gotta do it.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Friday.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Here we go, come on.

Speaker 10 (12:35):
Eddie gee Friday night and Friday. All right, football Friday.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
Freddy Quinn, Freddy Quinn loves it so brety, come on,
love pretty Cuinn.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Don't don't do a lee.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
What were you saying?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
What were you what did you shouting?

Speaker 11 (12:54):
Move us and got an interception yesterday last night. Move fassa,
move Fassa? What didn't move offs to get an interception?
Last night in the.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Game, whoa move Fassa?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
What are you telling didn't one of the niners wasn't there?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Name Mafossa?

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Whoa?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh no, okay, I don't know, Lee, I don't know
how to.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's move Stafa.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Moustafa Ustafa?

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Whoa?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Man? Oh bort leeboard just can't get right. Have you
got a car yet? What's your situation?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm driving, I'm driving around.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Move his Grandmam's car.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, okay, you're just gonna keep that, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Until next year?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
I got plans.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, turn it in, tang.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
That's a trade in trade for what?

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Lee?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (13:57):
I got an eye on a few different uh different models.
You want me to tell you the models right now?

Speaker 6 (14:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
No, no, you don't have to do anything that. I'll
just continue to procrastinate with your life.

Speaker 11 (14:08):
Yes, oh wow, yeah, oh wow, bang good jump stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Mount function LeVar your thoughts on the phone?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Mix up of names?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
There? Hey man? Yeah, desolitely man. He was so confident too.
He took us all the way into the Lion King too,
just took us there when oh hell, move move stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Hey, he's a rookie. I'm STI getting getting his name right.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, it's his fault. Yeah, man, if he was older,
he would have gotten it right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
of the air coming up next from the tire rack
dot Com Studios. Apparently there's some speculation about the potential
trade in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
We'll tell you who it involves right here on FSR.

Speaker 12 (15:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 5 (15:19):
I mean, the recall for Ranta to find this so
fast was pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I didn't know it existed.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Oh who found?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I typed in moufassa and it popped up.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Oh okay, here we are.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Who would have ever thought one of the lyrics would
say exactly what the conversation consisted of.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, seriously, common mistake?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Uh, Lee, I don't think you should be speaking on
what's a common mistake in this uh specific subject.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I did make the mistake, so yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
But you which is you?

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, we just pick and choose which one we want
to talk about.

Speaker 11 (15:53):
Funny enough, I went through my text last night because
I was texting my Seahawks buddy Todd, and I, uh yeah,
accidentally sent him a gift of mufasa.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
You know, like Todd's uh been on the wagon.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Yeah, you don't talk about him as much.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah, he has been kind of toning it down a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
I think he's, you know what, he has a little
bit him.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, he's actually gonna he's actually taking better care of himself.
He's doing good. He's lost some weight.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
You guys are like step brothers. It's almost like the parents,
you know, they broke up and you guys have to
actually like grow up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And we meet up at the Catalina Wine mixer.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
What's here?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, well it is two pros and a cup
of jail here on Fox Sports Radio. Mufasa Mustafa. I mean,
we welcome anybody here on this show, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Now, I hope you guys are ready for this, because
after we uh talk to Eddy Garcia coming up here shortly,
we're gonna have to throw a parlay party, So you
better have your money line picks ready to go, because
we're gonna build a three team money line parlay here
courtesy of our friends at DraftKings. It's gonna payout plus money,
all right, So be thinking about that after we hear

(17:04):
from Eddie.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you want to mention this though? First?

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Apparently Amari Cooper, the wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns,
there's a thought that, you know, as the Browns continue
to be a bag of vomit this season in the NFL,
that maybe they're going to move on from Amari Cooper,
if you remember they kind of his name was thrown
out there and the potential Brandon Ayuk trade before the season. Well,
Amari Cooper, and I believe this is the first time

(17:28):
I've ever heard the guy's voice spoke about those rumors recently.

Speaker 13 (17:32):
I'm not thinking about that. I'm not thinking about us
not winning some games. I'm thinking about us winning some games.
So that doesn't even cross my mind. I mean, it's
the easiest thing in the world to do to jump
off this ship when it's sinking, I guess I would say,
But I mean, I don't even consider myself that type
of person, you know, that's what people who aren't dedicated

(17:53):
to That's what people who aren't committed through.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Things get hard.

Speaker 13 (17:56):
Sometimes you just have to you just have to fight
your way through it. I'm a fighter. I know the
guys on these team, they're fighters. Uh, and that's what
fighters do, you know, until the end, Fight until the end.
So that's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Damn, fight all you want, buddy, but uh, that teammate
until the end.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Though, because the end does matter. Fighting till the end
does matter.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
What is the end November fifth of the trade deadline?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Like what? Like?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
What is the end with a Mariy Cooper there? I mean,
it's just.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he would be happy to
get the hell out of there. I would say that.
But then that again, now the question becomes is it
a greener any other sad situation then where he is
right now? Or is it just a matter of just

(18:48):
changing right So I'm I mean, what I'm saying is
is with the the you know, the idea of what
the you know what could be versus what is is
it just a matter of changing your quarterback and changing
the trajectory of what the team could possibly be doing

(19:09):
or is it the hypothetical of where he could end up?

Speaker 5 (19:12):
I mean courtering control client the quarterback is the only
thing that really matters, Like coaching doesn't matter anything else.
So you really want I want to do a segment
on that. Let's finish, you should have Jonas down this path.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
No, let's transit talk. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Because quote, like you have to read the quote, right,
Kevin Stefanski, who's you know, a two time Coach of
the Year who coached up a team that had its
fourth string quarterback and admitted to the playoffs winning eleven games
last year. But apparently that doesn't matter according to some.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
And so what's so what's your take on it?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Well, first off, this is the quote, and this was
set on the you know, Collin Coward Show yesterday. But
Joel apparently believes that it doesn't matter who your coach is,
it matters who your quarterback is. Has Bill Belichick done
anything without Tom Brady?

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Noo?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Has any Reid done anything without Patrick Mahomes. I'm not
saying that they're not good, but what we're trying to
do here, we're trying to where are we trying to
be good or are we trying to win super Bowls?
Because the New York Jets are all in on winning
a super Bowl. That's why you bringing Aaron Rodgers in.
Now you are trying to bring in a coach that's
going to get him to the divisional round. Good for you.

(20:30):
You guys are kind of good. Now.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
I believe it's not a contradiction, though.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Well, I would just say this all right. Is the
quarterback important?

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Is the coach important? Of course, football is the ultimate
team sport, and in particular at the NFL level, why
coaching matters so so very much is the fact that
talent's equated. So at high school pee wee for example,
you know, my cousin plays on a little football team.

(21:01):
I go see him play on Sundays, and one thing's
very apparent. It's really easy to coach at other levels
because it's pretty simple. You get the guy who's really
good to the football and so that could be a quarterback,
it could be a running back, could be a wide receiver.
But talent's not equated. There's teams that are more talented
than others, and the more talented teams win. Hence the
reason why if you look at the history of the

(21:23):
College Football Playoff or even the last two decades of
college football, the most talented teams which have tended to
reside in the SEC have won. But even the teams
that have played off for a national championship have been
teams at the college level that have been the most talented,
the best recruiting. Look at the top twenty five rankings
before you come in any season. Usually there are teams
that are teams that did well the year before, but

(21:45):
have the most talent based on the recruiting rankings based
on the transfer portal. So at the NFL level, talent
is equated, which means scheme is vital to your ability
to be able to succeed. I mean, look for example
at the New York Jets, they're not moving on from
their quarterback. They're moving on from their coach. They're moving
on to a different play caller, which shows the significance

(22:08):
of coaching. You know, Patrick Mahomes is a tremendous talent.
Why didn't he win more in college? Then if it's
just about the quarterback, if that's so important, if that's
the only thing that really matters, why didn't he win
a national Championship because coaching matters, the scheme matters, all
of it. I mean, I would he actually say now
more than ever that coaching and scheme matters at the

(22:31):
NFL level because of how little training these players have
had for a game that's very different than what they
play in high school and in college. It's not a spread out.
The ability to throw RPOs at the college level was
drastically different than at the NFL because of the difference
in the rule. You can be three yards downfield in
college or high school, for example, you only be one
yard downfield in the NFL. So that takes away a

(22:53):
large portion of your playbook that you're not running. You
have more pass pro schemes, you have more run blocking schemes,
all of it because you're trying to find matchups, you're
trying to find edges based on schemes. So I would
actually argue the exact opposite that coaching may be more
important as ever at the NFL level. Now that look,
that's just my experience, you know, going through almost eight years,

(23:15):
you know, eight my eighth year into a training camp Laval.
I don't know how you feel, but I just felt
like at that level from the fundamentals, training to scheme
to everything else. I'm not saying it's better as far
as the coaching always, but it's more important than ever before,
in particular now and especially at that level from a
scheme standpoint, all.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
That I've always thrived when I had better coaches. Our
teams have always thrived when we had better coaching, you know,
and coaches. I don't get that. I mean, it's kind
of just listening to the quote that you read off
by Joel, it's a contradiction because if coaching doesn't matter

(23:58):
and all you need is a quarterback, then why isn't
why isn't Robert Salas still the head coach, and why
aren't the New York Jets undefeated? Right? I mean, wouldn't
that wouldn't that go to the side of reasoning that
Joel Klatt introduced to the conversation, Right, there's no reason

(24:21):
for Joe for Robert sala to be fired, and there's
no reason to have any conversations about what needs to
happen with the New York Jets because you have one
of the greatest quarterbacks to ever played the game, and
if all you need is a quarterback, then you should
have been good, but that's not the case. That's not

(24:41):
the case. So I mean, I look at the scenario
of what a coach represents. A coach represents structure, a
coach represents creating a culture, which to me, in more
cases than not, is one of the most important parts
of what a coach brings to the table, you know,

(25:04):
the ability to delegate to competent people, you know, and
what that represents to you know, maybe in some cases
it's not all about development and the pros. It's more
so about you know, teaching execution of what it is
that you want to get done. Development is something that
I would assume at this point the player, the athlete

(25:26):
themselves has to make a very vested, active interest in
continuing to develop themselves once they get to the league.
But coaching, you can never understate or undervalue what coaching
represents because it is it is so vitally important to

(25:46):
be able to get all those guys from all these
different places, these different backgrounds to go and pull in
one direction. You can't understate that because let me tell you,
a quarterback does not in a lot of cases, they
don't represent that to the entire team, you know, Like

(26:08):
in terms of what the value system or what the
leadership system is. It can be vastly different by unit, right,
you know what I mean? Like I never really had
like did I have great relationships with my quarterbacks? Sure,
but did our quarterback actually come and set the tone,

(26:32):
like come into the defensive meeting room and tell us,
you know, what it is that he's feeling and what
it is that we need to do, or on the
practice field while we're on by the way, mind you
a different field than the starting quarterback. He didn't come
over there and set the tone for us to have,
you know, the type of practice that we needed to have.

(26:54):
If the defense goes out there, ask Joe Burrow and
doesn't do what they're supposed to do, you could throw
for four or five touchdowns in a game. We gave
up six seven touchdowns in the game. So how so
how good well was being the quarterback representation of being
being a winning you know, a winning product? Right? I

(27:16):
think that's just kind of overstate. You gotta have a
coach man creates balance.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
And I would go a step further and just saying
I guess in the quote and if we're just saying that,
like that's all, it's about like in order to ultimately
justify success. Apparently Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, and Barry Bonds
aren't worth anything because they never won a championship, right,
I mean, if that's what you're saying, because you know
Dan Marino never won a super Bowl or Barry Sanders

(27:41):
never won a super Bowl, well, like, if that's how
you're defining it, and you know that's how we're talking, Kelly, Well, sure,
Jim Kelly, if we're talking just in terms of you
have to win a super Bowl, right like Andy Reid
was already on a path by the way of being
a Hall of Fame coach before he had won a
Super Bowl with the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, like that,
that's just a fact. That's not my opinion. It was

(28:02):
in what two right, yeah, exactly. So you know you
go back and look at that and you just go
it's it's a statement and one in which you know,
I'm not saying you have to play in the NFL
to be able to understand it, but it helps because
you see what Mike Tomlins done over the entire course
of his tenure in Pittsburgh, never having a losing season,

(28:22):
what's seventeen years that is ridiculous. That is through personnel,
through staff changes, through all of it. That is a
head coach who's been able to maintain a level higher
than most in that span and now. And I would
argue the fact that, yeah, they've got well, one super
Bowl at that time, and it came with a guy
who's gonna be a Hall of Famer in Ben Roethlisberger,

(28:43):
but there was also plenty of years where they were
successful in the sense of making the playoffs while not
having that. So I just I don't know why you
got to make a comment like that, And maybe it
was in regards to, hey, would Mike rab Will be
a good fit for the Jets at this time kind
of to on that, and maybe it's in response to that.
But the truth of the matter is the quarterback's extremely important.

(29:08):
No one's going to deny that. But I don't know
that he's any more important than the head coach. I
don't know that is any more important than a lot
of the other pieces, especially in the game of football
that go around, especially at the NFL level, considering when
you talk about the how big scheme matters and how
big of an impact coaches play in that regard, not
just from a schematic standpoint, but game planning and also

(29:28):
you know, teaching fundamentals all the things because of how
different that game is at the NFL level, that's compared
to the college or high school level. But it's hard
to know that unless you've been in the NFL and
you've played.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
In the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
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Speaker 4 (29:42):
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Speaker 3 (29:46):
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Speaker 6 (29:47):
All right?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
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Speaker 4 (29:55):
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Speaker 3 (30:03):
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Speaker 5 (30:05):
Here's the hard part about this, man, It's not an
easy week. Get a lot of divisional matchups, some of
which you never know how which way this thing is
gonna go. But I'm gonna go with the Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
There in New England.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
M all right, it's gonna be my money line.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Parlay money line are.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Just to win, just to win outright, just.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
To win it out right. Here we go. I am
going to go with.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
The Washingtons plus all right, Yes it is. It's gonna
juice us things up.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Win against the Ravens out wut.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, if you are familiar with this show, and if
you or if you're just new to this show, let
me go ahead and just tell you how this works.
I'm the only one that goes out on a limb.
I'm the only one that actually has the I think.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
LeVar just did. I don't know why you're saying than
Cube just took us six and a half point under.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, but for the first time, my limb is going
to be a little bigger here, all right. So what
I'm going to tell you right now is, if you
want to have some guts, if you want to have
some stones, I'll take the Eagles on the money line
against the Cleveland Browns at a minus four to seventy.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
So that being said.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
We're trying to be funny about it. We've got the
plus odds at this point, We've.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Got the uh yeah, Lee, we did win last week.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
We did in fact win last week.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
Yes, we did plus plus three nineteen, so I'm talking
about day.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
But are we plus odds this week?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, because thanks to LeVar. LaVar really helps our cause's
thank you, v.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I don't know about this all.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, So how this works.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
We've got the Commanders on the money line that'll pay
out significantly. We've got the Texans on the money line.
They are a favorite at minus two ninety. And we've
got the Eagles on the money line. So that three
team parlay, if all of those teams win outright eight,
it's plus four sixty two. So if you bet one

(32:04):
hundred dollars, it'll bring you back five sixty two. So
all you need is the Eagles, the Commanders and the
Texans to win outright this weekend, and you're being paid
out a plus four to sixty two on this edition
of our parlay party here on two pros and a
cup of yo.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
And by the way, if it does pay out that much,
you can thank LeVar because he really went on on
a limb with the Commanders.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah that was two forty five.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah, I don't feel like it.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, it's a parlay party, baby, It is two pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up next, we're going to close up shop here
on a football Friday with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
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Speaker 12 (32:44):
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Speaker 3 (33:03):
Lots to get to.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
On that Monday edition, we look back at Week six
in the NFL, a busy weekend in college football. We
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Speaker 12 (33:35):
These might smell a little fun.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Came What is that?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
That sounds incredible?

Speaker 12 (33:38):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's lack?
It's Lee's lackovers?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
All right to laugh? What do we got?

Speaker 11 (33:46):
All right, guys? Some leftovers from Tuesday? But I think
they're still good. Before the weekend, the Utah Hockey Club
won their first game of their inaugural season against the
Blackhawks on Tuesday night and Tuesday right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Beating them five to two. That was pretty good.

Speaker 11 (33:59):
But they also did was set a new record at
Delta Center where they sold over one hundred and twenty
thousand dollars in beer, which is a record in that stadium.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'n know they drank what'd you think they were selling
out there?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Jumps all like on draft Probably Capri sun, maybe like
a zema something like that.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I mean, there's no IPAs, that's for sure. Brady's a
big I PA guy, he would know.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
But I don't. I don't drink IPAs. Sorry, Sorry, does.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Disappoint those out there like IPA's not my thing? But now, Lee, like,
how much do we have a like your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (34:36):
We don't care? We should probably move on to the
next story. I know Jonas is trying to make this
a thing, but this was Tuesday.

Speaker 11 (34:42):
That's what leftovers are. This was from Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
So here's the real question. You still eat leftovers from
Tuesday and on Friday.

Speaker 11 (34:49):
Hell yeah, that's not even that bad. Oh I go
way worse than that. It depends what you're eating. But yeah,
come on, what that's what leftover? What left What is your.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Three days later? Like there's there's got to be a cutoff,
like cut like two days. I would say forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, on everything, anything pretty much.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
And there's certain things that you are not gonna eat
us leftovers well, like we've said it before, chicken palms
the best leftover food on the.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Planet hour the top.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Yeah, that's any any Italian food leftovers pretty good.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
I don't know, man, ribs are pretty good when they're leftovers.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
Yeah, but I would eat that, like.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Like gumbo is good, like to like I would eat
gumbo too ish like a seafood gumbo, Yeah I would.
I would.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
I wouldn't eat seafood two hours.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
Leftovers, Yeah I would, even though I wouldn't do that. Yeah,
I did that once. I miss I think I missed
work or I was I was hurting at work the
next day.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I remember that. I think you guys remember that too.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
We do interesting Hey, speaking of leftovers, we were talking
about hair of the dog the other day and I
found this little clip on the interwebs.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
This guy who agrees with me. Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
One of the.

Speaker 9 (36:12):
Best feelings of all time is when you balance the
hair of the.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Dog perfectly right. So you go on a tear.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
You wake up on a Sunday and you go, there's
no way I'm dealing with this, down to the bar,
pub whatever, and you have like six just enough.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
To kirk here to hang over and get.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
You into a nice sort of a buzz, and then
you get some sort of food and you go sleep
at nine bit like that, kind of just just enough
that you're drunk but you're not, and then you wake up,
and then you wake up Monday fresh.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
That guy agrees with you.

Speaker 11 (36:41):
I think everyone should agree with that guy. I think
it's better than you. If you hadn't even drink.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
There needs to be an intervention. If I wasn't convinced
before that moment, I am totally convinced now.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's just a little bit of medicine. Man, it makes
you feel better.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
No, it's right.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's science looking for solutions.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
You know, it's science.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Lee. What are your plans for the weekend.

Speaker 11 (37:07):
I am going to start today with a little hangout
by the pool with the Philadelphia Cheese Steak sandwich, see
a movie Terrifier three, and we'll see where we go
from that.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
We're gonna paint the place and take pictures.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
On Monday, We're going to paint the place.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh, you're invited.

Speaker 11 (37:22):
It's gonna be a paint party, all white, paint party,
all dang racist.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'll be missing that
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