January 13, 2025 • 37 mins
The Vikings and Rams will put a bow on Wildcard Weekend after relocating the game to Arizona. Tom Brady tries to lure Ben Johnson to the Raiders. Steve Sarkisian gets major heat following Texas loss to Ohio State. All that and much more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's give this part.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
All hell yeah, come on, Var.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is this is Brady's hour.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Let's go Var.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Why are you saying let's go Var up top to Brady?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
You don't claive EVNM.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm confused.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Why is this me? It's Jonas.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
If anyone you chose this song, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You're the hour?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:02):
But the reality is I chose it for Jonas. This
is his hype before he goes on Saturdays. This is
what he listens to.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now, I got you lose yourself.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
It's till I collapse. You know something about till I collapse.
I'll do radio for the rest of the days. That
until they killed me or something.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, got you to care.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Well, he did come in like and and again continue
thoughts and prayers. I don't want to make too much
of a joke of it, but to all the victims
and everything taking place with the fires. But I mean
Jonas did act as though he was the savior of
radio and people's happiness.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Uh, you know Saturday on?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Is that because he actually did his show, his four
hour show four hours?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Why was it four hours?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Like?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Why do people have to listen that hour?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Not?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Well, because he volunteered to do four hours, like because
everybody was told that we were doing best off and
Jonas seemed to be maybe the only one who was
able to get the information and memo that well, you
know what, you can go on technically right now because
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the you know, the the evacuation has been you know,
the order has been lifted.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
So Jonas was looking for this opportunity and took it
and did it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, and you know, there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Well, the one person I know did not get the
memo is lead a lab most likely what do you mean,
lack of computer, laptop, desktop, any.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of them.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
All comes to the phone, phone, phone.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Right, people are setting him carrier pigeons, You know, smoke
signals like he's not even communicating with anything that would
be close to today's technology.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You know, my favorite part about the dynamic is Brady's
so exasperated by Lee constantly. There's just this this sigh
of frustration.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
No, it's it's my mind is blown at times because
I feel like we keep getting closer to this reality
of Lee, like taking the next step, and.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Then it feels like it's two steps back. You hear
more about what he might be falling off.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
I mean, man, I've heard now that is funny. I
feel like Lee has created a new genre, or even
just a new interpretation of steps back.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
That Lee walks backwards. That is what I'm starting to believe.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Our lives can.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Be any further apart, which is what makes me laugh
because just the contrast, like getting ready to welcome a
fifth child this week, Lee can't even like send out
an email. It's just it's so far apart.
Speaker 9 (03:54):
Leang, Yes, I love you, buddy, but you need some help.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Ah, So I mean, you know, and you know it
doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Fun and Games until it a fun and games until.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Until Lee ends up as a chalk out line.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, until she's got a point it at you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And then that's the problem is you're in the water.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Hey, Lee, what a good birthday gift be, or even
for Valentine's Day? Is that's coming up? Would it be
a kevlar vest? Would that be a fair.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Thing to give you? I'll take what I could get. Yeah,
safety first.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
I don't think anyone would notice after you were the
same alta for three days straight, you know, they go,
he's got a kevlar vest under there. It's hard to
tell the stench from the clothes he's wearing for three.
Speaker 10 (04:56):
Days, drawing more attention, fencing mask, you know, like anything,
it will protect him from you know what, what could
be impending doom each and every day.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
But you know what, hey, you know, listen to eat
your own.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
And surprise, he hasn't been poisoned by now that would.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's the next step. It's like if you've seen Game
of Thrones, there's all sorts of options out there, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
There are all sorts of options. You know that is that?
That is very accurate? We crossed off they all play
out on Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
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Speaker 6 (05:40):
Happened to be the one that uh, Don Joy was
messing around with.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You know what I mean, Don Joy? You mean great Joy?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, great Joy, great Joy?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You call him don Joy?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, don Joy?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
These yeah, you know, you know you saw what happened
to Don Joy.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Is that guy's name, Great Joy?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, but Don Joy sounds better.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It does sound better. Good call, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, what happened to him?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
He was very good.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You remember what happened to him?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, he died valiantly.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah. What happened?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
What? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what happened before that? They put
him through it? Yeah, he put him through what? What? What?
Speaker 9 (06:29):
Like?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
What you could actually end up going through? Go go
give people just a snippet of what happened?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What happened?
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Okay, yep, you know what, well done, Well done, Jonas,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Jonas? Well done.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
A whole lot of snippet, A whole lot of snippet
going on? Okay, all right, Yeah, then he feed it
to the dogs too, like what you wasn't getting it back?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You fed it to the hounds.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Tay Tay, lead Joy.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It is.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
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no idea what the hell is going to happen in
this game tonight, No clue. I don't know how the
move impacts the Rams. I don't know if this does
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anything to the Vikings, who are already going to travel anyways.
The Rams are apparently loading up fans in a bus
that's leaving Inglewood. Here the buses are live outside the
in Inglewood that they're going to take to the game
in Arizona. I have no idea what to expect, Like
literally no idea what to expect. So at least there
is the element of surprise in this game. I just
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find it hard to believe that Sam Darnold is going
to roll out that bag of crap two weeks in
a row that he rolled out last week. I just
I can't see that happening with the season they've had.
But could all be for not?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Have you ever seen a snowball stop growing when it's
rolling downhill and picking up more snow.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, So it could.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Either be that or it could just be it was
just two bad weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean, when that trend started going bad.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
For the Pittsburgh Steelers this season, it was like there
was cause for concern. I gotta tell you, when you're
supposed to be trending up, which is the end of
the year, unless you're doing so well that you're pulling
guys out and you're not doing as well because you're
not playing your guys. That was not the case with Minnesota.
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That was not the case with Pittsburgh. Both of these
teams were trending down heading into this postseason, and I
just don't know if if that trend is breakable at
this point, I don't know. And for what is worth,
If Matthew Stafford continues to play the way he's been playing,
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and Whoka Nakua keeps cooking them up and vaping them
and smoking these boys out here, and you toss in
a little bit of Cooper Cup with that, Minnesota cond
find themselves heading home after having a magical season, right,
that really could possibly happen.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I think if there's anything we learned from the wildcard round,
it feels like it's more of a byproduct, and this
is usually the playoffs every single year. The quarterbacks that
have experience that have been there, you feel most confident
in and you see the fact that they're able to
adapt to a different speed, a different level and fight
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through it. And that's pretty much that's what we saw,
you know, in the wildcard round so far. It's one
of the reasons why if I'm looking at this game tonight,
I sit there and say, like, I trust Matt Stafford,
I trust Sean McVay, I trust all those pieces. And
and it's another thing that's Kevin O'Connell. It's just Sam Darnold.
If he plays the way he kind of has of late,
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that doesn't make me overly optimistic. And I'm not sure
what's going to change that switch. When you know, the
last time we saw him out it was a huge moment.
You could basically call it a playoff game because you
were playing for a buy for the number one overall
seed for the division, and it was one of his
worst games to date. And I think you go back
and you look at Philly and you look at that
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game by Jordan Love. He was pressing. You know, he's
someone who's a young player in this league, extremely talent
that has been fantastic in the regular season, but on
that stage in the playoffs, it's not quite there yet.
You know, he's got to pick up and learn from
the experiences. Very similar to Justin Herbert talked about him
to begin the show. So I just kind of keep
going back to the quarterback position and saying it just
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it feels like, you know, outside of looking at the
Washington Commandos and them finding a way to win last
night and moving on to the next round, which Baker's
got a little bit more playoff experience than Jaden Daniels,
but not much like you rely heavily and lean heavily
on the quarterbacks. You trust the teams that have been there,
that have gone through all this before. It feels like
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it's that easy to handicap these things.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
If Sam Darnold struggles.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Does this talk about the biggest, most epic crash and burn?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Ever, I was gonna say this, because he's hit.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
He's hitting for a nice pay day and will whether
it be from Minnesota or someone else.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But does that change whether or not you give him
that payday? I for your Minnesota, Like I wonder if
that would if they would look at this and go
two biggest games of the year and he fell flat
on his face.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Maybe we stayed there away.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
It doesn't have implications these last few games have had
and locations. This game has major implications on what Sam
Bradford's future is because if look at it this way,
you have a skit. Donald, excuse me, you have a
skit at the end of the season. You have a
skid at the end of the season, and then you
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lose and go out in the first round of the playoffs.
Why wouldn't you just be like, yeah, we had a
good run with him, but we got McCarthy. He's rehabbing,
he's healthy, let's just move on. Like, why would you
not take that stance if you don't have a serious
run in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think this game has serious implications.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, which is wild to think about because a month
ago it was I mean, is he your long term answer?
And now now it feels like this could all be
riding on this game tonight and it goes.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
It's one of the reasons too, why it's like you
let it play out. You know, everyone's always trying to
like agree to a long term extension with Donald during
the season, and from Sam Donald's standpoint, I'm sure his
representation was knocked on the door of Quasi Adolpho man
Son saying, come on, man, like, let's do this deal.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
But now you look at it and go, okay, we
got we got time. You know, we've got a quarterback
we drafted in the top ten to be able to
be the guy. Let's just let this thing play out,
so you know. And another thing about tonight's game is
I think LA could be one of the more wild
card teams that could make a run because of some
of that experience. Because the playmakers var just talked about
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that's a dangerous team, and it's one of those that
it's kind of like it was kind of like Cincinnati
and Joe Burrow. Like let's be honest, if Joe Burrow
and Cincinnati got in the playoffs, that would have been
a dangerous team. People have been like, ohof, I don't
have to worry about playing against Joe and that offense
Jamar Chase t Higgins that grew.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Even as bad as their defense has been that that
was kind of a scary team. I think LA is
that other team that played with house money. Man, how
many people expect them to be there this year? You know,
what were the expectations for the Rams? Like here we are,
go ahead and play with that house money and see
where it takes you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot on the line from
the Minnesota Vikings and the Rams tonight, and they're doing
it all in Arizona, So have fun with that. There's
also you know, the the reported wins are going to
pick up here, so we might be dealing with it
a little bit more here in southern California based on
the what we've seen the past few days. So yeah,
it's gonna be gonna be an interesting night for Rams fans,
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both locally and watching that game and or if they're
busting out there being in Arizona for that game as
well too. So it is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
can I I also want to throw this at you
because we didn't have a chance to get into it
with the Mike Rabel agreeing to becoming the next head
coach of the Patriots. One of the stories that came
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out and you guys, tell me where this lands. With
you the apparently Tom Brady is really intrigued by Ben Johnson,
enamored by Ben Johnson, and he's been giving him the
full court press to want to go to Vegas and
coach the Raiders, and that he's spoken with his agent
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that you know, Ben Johnson has become more and more
interested in potentially talking to the Raiders and interviewing for
that job and potentially liking what he's got there. What
am I missing about the Raiders job that Tom Brady
or Ben Johnson see that I don't see because I
don't know how Ben Johnson is any different than Antonio
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Pierce when they don't have a quarterback in that division.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right, Yeah, I mean you can have it. Q.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Go I mean it's a very you already answered your
own question though, but go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Cue.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Well, I think my perspective on it is this is
more about Tom Brady and his influence as what is
a limited partner, right, a minority owner, than it is
anything else.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
If Ben Johnson is the bell.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Of the ball in this hiring cycle and your first
year being a part of the ownership organization, you can
find a way of convincing Ben Johnson to come be the.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Head coach for the Las Vegas Raiders. That's a win.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Now again, I don't know his relationship with Mike Grabel.
We talked about that in the past. Would that have
made some sense. Maybe Tom doesn't see the Raiders as
a team that needs a more defensive mind a head coach,
or maybe he didn't want to go down that road
of someone like Mike Rabel who's his friend, and deal
with that. But I think this has everything to do
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with Tom Brady and him being able to get the
guy that he wants him, being able to have the
influence that he has or thinks he has on the league,
and being able to get these types of people to
set up the Raiders for success and ultimately, in my opinion,
one day become the majority owner.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Like that is the play.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
If you look at really, like what is attractive about
the Raiders outside of its an incredible band brand, They've
got an unbelievable history and fan base, like outside of
those things, and a great like new stadium in a
place like Las Vegas, Like you're looking at it from
a competitive standpoint, going this is not a good situation.
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And so even for Tom Brady to invest into this
particular team. You know, I'm sure people were like, wait,
why Las Vegas? Why not the Patriots? Why not the Bucks?
You just want a Super Bowl them. You don't think
the Glazer family would let him become a part of
the ownership structure there in Tampa. And so the answer
can only be, what's because he wants to one day
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majority owner and the Craft family has sons they'll pass
the team down to, They'll keep it within the family.
Maybe the Glazers do as well. There's all those things
you take into account. It's like, well, if you want
to own a franchise, it helps to be a minority owner,
get your foot in the door, and then you make
a play at one point in time for the majority ownership.
And so if that's the case, you look at the
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long term plan, like how do you convince the NFL,
how do you convince Mark Davis, Roger Candel all the
powers that be that you one day should be the
guy who can be a majority owner. There has to
be a level of building and success. And so by
getting Ben Johnson, by trying to build this team up
to have success. By doing that, like that's one example
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of showing it and proving it.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's what I think this has to do with.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know what's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And to add to that point, he does already had
he had ownership and the basketball team as well in
Vegas as well, so he's kind of diversifying within that
that market.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
A lot of times that comes along with that comes
along with some of the other ownerships, right like that
member the ISHBA who just bought the majority ownership of
the Suns, like he took on the WNBA team as well,
Like that kind of came along with the deal.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, I'll just say this because I know we're up
against it all.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
At least, I'll say.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
For me, I believe Tom Brady is a winner. I
believe he's proven he can win as a player. But
to be able to win as a coach is very different.
To be able to win as a GM like John
Lynch has done but has not been able to get
that elusive super Bowl just yet, that's that's a different
it's a different game. As an owner, I'm certain it's
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all together a different game. So while I'll sit there
and I'll say, Okay, Tom Brady, you know has the chops,
he has the background, the understanding, the support system to
be able to build a winner in Vegas. I think
it's safe to say you don't know until you know
with something like this, and one thing's for certain, I
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would assume being a winner as an owner is probably
going to be a much more humbling experience than being
a winner as a player.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And I would say, and I would.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Offer the reasoning to be You've played the game your
entire life. You had opportunities to learn, grow, develop, fail, win, succeed,
you know, come up short, all kinds of different training
things that took place through the years. And you have
only been an owner for less than a year, So
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I understand there'll be a lot of lessons you take
into being an owner from what you learned throughout your life,
your life's journey. But still, nonetheless, being an owner still
is something that's new for him and he's going to
have to go through those learning phases of being an owner.
And I think that there could be success, but there
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could also be major, major failure and what takes place
and to see how that plays out, I think is
going to be super intriguing.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, well, Nielsen, good luck, godspeed to the Las Vegas
Raiders in that division with no quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Have fun, with that.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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It's the matchup that's going to impact somebody's entire life.
Here coming up very very soon, we'll get into that
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Speaker 3 (21:15):
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Two Pros and a Coup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with the air Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers here on
this football Recap Monday. That'll be yours here from the
tire rack dot Com Studios. Now, on Friday night, we
knew who was going to be in one half of
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the National Championship for College Football. We were waiting on
the second and we.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Knew we went have.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Jim Man, jam My old Spice, he's not wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
You shut your ass up, Hey, you can sit your
ass down.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
I'm just saying, if y'all would have won, you would
have been gloating and you'd have been talking.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I would have been tearing you up. You're right exactly,
and you don't want but tearingdn't.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So sit your ass down, let you know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Damn all right, that's fair, that's fair. Y'all.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
See what y'all did to men Nation, y'all got you
talking to me bad?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Or radio.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Y'all done to me this time.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Y'all didn't really do it this time, but.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We do know who Notre Dame will be playing now.
Thanks to Jack Sawyer and a strip sack, the Ohio
State Buck guys are onto the national Championship.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Sex has wanted the window. They didn't want to win.
They didn't want to win.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Man the touchdown before half a killer like it felt
like Texas got a little momentum back and then very
first play the.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Screen Treveon was shot out of a cannon on that
I do want to address one sequence that I feel
like Steve Sarkisian is taking a lot of heat and
let me just preface anything I say by this, and
I think you guys would agree, Like, does anyone watch
more film on the Ohio State defense in preparation for
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that game than Steve Sarkasian his staff?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Is that fair to say? Guys?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Okay, could we stop second guessing like the play calling
and realize that, like there's in no instance ever and
LeVar you've coached, I don't think you've ever called a
play and went up, I'm calling this stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Like you call it because you think it's going to work,
based on all the research you've done, all the game planning,
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your data, your analytics, what you think you're going to
get an Oftentimes, more often than not, especially for good
play callers, offensively and defensively, you get what you think
you're gonna get. But there's a lack of execution. Someone
loses a one on one matchup. So if you go
down to we're talking about the jack sare Stripsack, which
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a lot of people point to and say, well, they
were first and goal, and look at the ploy calling.
Look Steve circuit, oh my gosh, and in particular, the
toss play we used to call it Taxi didn't have
a different formation, but the toss play that lost them
like seven yards and kind of put them more backed up.
Everyone seem to have an issue with it. And so
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when I go back and watch it, they're in man
to man. They end up bringing the tight end over
who obviously is man, comes along with him Ransom, who's
got him in coverage, And at that moment, I'm thinking
to myself, like, Okay, you're not gonna try to run
up the middle again. You tried that on first and
goal didn't work right, brought in all the big bodies.
You try to do that. You're going up against what
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the number two, number three defense in the country, the
number two or three red zone touchdown percentage defense in
the country.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Like the Ohio State. That good.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's really it's been seldom that you've seen teams run
the ball against him into the end zone, especially up
the middle. So they do this toss play to the
outside and Downs ends up running underneath and coming through
Scott Free. Now, Downs didn't ultimately make the play. Downs
took a stiff arm, was down and that was pretty
much it. If that play was blocked properly, it's most
(25:32):
like a touchdown for Texas. However, your tackle didn't block
well out in space, your wide receiver wing go is
in man to man coverage. If he just blocks down
in the safety Ransom in this case, which was his assignment,
And you could kind of see Second guesses himself as
what is and what he's supposed to do, usually to
its most dangerous man MDM. And so he's gonna look
(25:52):
at the safety, try to block down in the safety.
His man's gonna follow him until he realizes it's a run.
By that point in time, he's probably out leveraged and
he's probably gonna have to try to go make an
angle tackle at best the pylon. So again, it wasn't
a bad play call. It was really poor execution by
two players in particular.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And that happens.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
It happens thought of course the game in big moments
all of that, and so I just I'm so tired
of hearing these people like second guests, Steve Sarkisian who's
made his name, he's a head coach at Texas because
of his offensive play calling, like that is why he's
where he's at.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Can we just stop it. It's it's so tiresome, man,
it really is.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Can I can I add to this conversation. Please.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I was I was in state college, and I was
eating enjoying a meal. And I love fans. I love
engaging fans. I will say, for the most part, it's
pretty cool. The one thing that has run its course
with me is having patients about coach Franklin. And and
so that was one of the questions, like, well, what
(26:58):
do you think about coach Franklin. And then somebody ask
you that you already know what their conclusion already is.
They want you to support them in being able to
bash coach Franklin. And I said, my response to that
would be all of the fans out there that think
they can take all of the elements that James Franklin
(27:18):
has brought to the table to get them to the
point of where they are one game away from playing
international title game. I want to see you do it.
I want to see you put together your coaching staff.
I want to see you recruit. I want to see
you get the commits. I want to see you coach them.
I want to see you create the schedule. I want
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to see you make sure they graduate. I want to
see you make sure that they're doing the things that
they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I want to see you do it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I want to see you do it because if you
have such a strong opinion of knowing what isn't good
and they suck and they can't do this and they
can't do that, I'd love to see you do it,
love to see how you fare out.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And what it is that you're able to do, since
you know so much about what a coach can and
can't do, and what.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
They should have called and why they should have did
it and why they didn't do it, and this, that
and the other. Okay, let's make the rubber meet the road.
Let's really truly make the rubber meet the road. Could
you really lead a team any Give you the most
major team, give you Penn State, give you a Notre dame,
and give you Texas. Do you think that you could
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do a better job than what that coach is doing.
I don't even need to get to the place of
where Steve Sarkisian. Steve Sarkisian was in position to beat
Ohio State. He was in position to beat Ohio State.
It didn't play out. Okay, it didn't happen boom, they lost,
But they are a few plays away from playing in
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a national title game. I just don't understand the the
losion that some of these people live in. What is
it that is going to make you happy? Because, you
know what's interesting, whatever coach loses this game, maybe not
Freeman because Freeman, but has become somewhat of a national phenomenon. Sweetheart.
I think it's the whole hairline thing. Give James Franklin
(29:18):
credit for it. He's like this national sweetheart. But outside
of outside of Freeman, if Ryan Day were to lose
black Beard, if he were to lose this game, do
you understand how bad his ass is going to get
lit up by the fan base, by the media, by everybody.
(29:38):
Do you understand how ugly that's going to get He
couldn't beat Michigan, he couldn't win in the national title game.
It's like, it's never enough for you, schmucks. It's never enough.
Win is enough enough? You'll win a national title? You
lose game one the next year, you know what they'll say,
(29:58):
you gotta fire them. What's wrong with them? Why can't
they win? Like you know, it's fun, just don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Before we were going so we were getting ready to
leave to head to the stadium, for the Orange Bowl,
and Lee and I were downstairs at the hotel and
there was a Penn State fan who was there with
his wife, and they're just kind of, you know, got
to talking, and that guy we got, you know, thirty
seconds into the conversation, I think James Franklin's a terrible coach.
I'm thinking to myself, we've heard that so much, and
(30:30):
you hear it so often about terrible coach, terrible plaque.
I honestly don't believe that the general public has any
idea why or has any reasoning to put behind why
somebody's a terrible coach or why something was a terrible
play call, Because if you're not there, you have no
clue what the plan was supposed to be. You have
(30:50):
no idea, you like, just from the outside, you have
no idea what was happening, what was called, what was
going on. But it's kind of a general term that's
thrown out, terrible coach. Okay, And we were making the
point on on Friday, if James Franklin was fired, he
(31:10):
would get hired in fifteen minutes, Like if Ryan Day
was let go by Ohio State, You mean to tell
me with what he's done he wouldn't have a job
almost immediately, like just this this whole concept of terrible.
This guy is not good Sarkesian like he's it's not
like he's coached at like run of the mill in
Texas's his first ever program he's ever been at. No,
(31:32):
he's been at big programs and worked at big universities.
And it's not because he's an idiot, Like, it's not
because he slept his way to the top. No, like
he actually put the time in. He knows what the
hell he's doing. So when you hear these people talk about,
well what's this and he's terrible, Okay, well then go
get better, like find somebody better, because if that guy leaves,
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he's gonna have a job in twenty minutes. It's weird. Man.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
On a side, not only is he gonna have a job,
there's going to be a lot of them kids that
end up not being at that school.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Too, So work on that one too.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
On a side note, can we get a play by
play of Lee on that media bus to the stadium?
I mean he had to have brought drinks or something
with him, right.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
No, we didn't, we didn't take the media bus.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, what do you have that beneath us. How did
I get there? Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
We took an uber. Oh yeah, they can't.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Okay, So then how was the trip there? Because it
took a while, and I assumed Lee brought drinks.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Actually we got a coffee to go.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
No, not we, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking
about Lee.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, to go.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
You didn't put any alcohol in it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Lee.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Well, I had a beer at the at the hotel
bar waiting for Jonas to come on down, and then
we got a coffee to go.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You had a G and T.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Oh, I did have a G and T?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Is that a beer and a gn T? Or just
a G and T?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Just a G and T.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
And you didn't put any alcohol on the coffee.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, but he thinks you are horrible. Bro. You gotta
do better with your life.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Man, I'm just saying you got to do at the stadium,
he was holding a medello, So I know.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I know you started drinking at some point.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I found the open bar at the at the.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Lee. Can you know one thing we don't ask you, bro?
How much water do you drink?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I've been on this PhD you know, doctor deal, and
you know how much water do you drink?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like honest, honest answer. How much water do you drink?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Some days I do better.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
You can always drink more water. My goal is a half.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Again, that was not an answer said like.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
I can always do better. Some days are better than others,
but yeah, you can always have more water. Yeah, and
then just leave space for like like someone's gonna accept that.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
How many glasses? How many glasses of water or average
do you drink in a day? Like two glasses of water?
Like you are going you are in trouble, bro, what
you are?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You are? You are? You are in some serious trouble.
So you drink? How many are right? How many glasses?
How many on average?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
How what's your ratio of water glasses of water to
things that you drink like alcohol wise or beer.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Average?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I'll drink like two or three seltzers and then two
or three and then a.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Couple and that's like your water intake. Ye, so two
or three seltzers to every one water? Yeah, on average?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
On average?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Bro, he has an iguana.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Until you're not an iguana, until you're not drink water.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
It's amazing.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
He gonna he's gonna come in one day and his
ankle is gonna be all swoll up like how ma
can get You're gonna have them bloodshot ankles and and shins,
and you're gonna be like, what what the hell is happening?
You're gonna realize it's too late. Some better start drinking
some water.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Some days I'm pretty good, Like I'll do a half
callon a day some days when I'm on.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It old, okay, damn all right.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
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Speaker 3 (36:15):
These might smell a little fun.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Time to find out what's lack.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's Lee's lap, alright, Lee, speed it up?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, I don't know what how much I could get
in here?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
We'll speaking alright, Lee, speaking of smelling fucky, I was
not able to retrieve any small bottles of shampoo or body.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Wash because now they like they attach them to the walls.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now and Lee, have you taken a shower yet? Uh?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Yes, of course, Hey Lee, they do that for cheap
asses like yourself. They realized what was happening. Now they
did it.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Dang jerk move.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
They do connect them to the wall. Dang, I will
I don't. I don't actually believe you took a shower?
Yet Go take a shower today, Take an extra one.
It's okay, all right,
Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a
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(00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's give this part.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
All hell yeah, come on, Var.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is this is Brady's hour.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Let's go Var.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Why are you saying let's go Var up top to Brady?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
You don't claive EVNM.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm confused.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Why is this me? It's Jonas.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
If anyone you chose this song, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You're the hour?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:02):
But the reality is I chose it for Jonas. This
is his hype before he goes on Saturdays. This is
what he listens to.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now, I got you lose yourself.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
It's till I collapse. You know something about till I collapse.
I'll do radio for the rest of the days. That
until they killed me or something.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, got you to care.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Well, he did come in like and and again continue
thoughts and prayers. I don't want to make too much
of a joke of it, but to all the victims
and everything taking place with the fires. But I mean
Jonas did act as though he was the savior of
radio and people's happiness.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Uh, you know Saturday on?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Is that because he actually did his show, his four
hour show four hours?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Why was it four hours?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Like?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Why do people have to listen that hour?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Not?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Well, because he volunteered to do four hours, like because
everybody was told that we were doing best off and
Jonas seemed to be maybe the only one who was
able to get the information and memo that well, you
know what, you can go on technically right now because
(02:08):
the you know, the the evacuation has been you know,
the order has been lifted.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
So Jonas was looking for this opportunity and took it
and did it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, and you know, there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Well, the one person I know did not get the
memo is lead a lab most likely what do you mean,
lack of computer, laptop, desktop, any.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Of them.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
All comes to the phone, phone, phone.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Right, people are setting him carrier pigeons, You know, smoke
signals like he's not even communicating with anything that would
be close to today's technology.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You know, my favorite part about the dynamic is Brady's
so exasperated by Lee constantly. There's just this this sigh
of frustration.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
No, it's it's my mind is blown at times because
I feel like we keep getting closer to this reality
of Lee, like taking the next step, and.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Then it feels like it's two steps back. You hear
more about what he might be falling off.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
I mean, man, I've heard now that is funny. I
feel like Lee has created a new genre, or even
just a new interpretation of steps back.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
That Lee walks backwards. That is what I'm starting to believe.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Our lives can.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Be any further apart, which is what makes me laugh
because just the contrast, like getting ready to welcome a
fifth child this week, Lee can't even like send out
an email. It's just it's so far apart.
Speaker 9 (03:54):
Leang, Yes, I love you, buddy, but you need some help.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Ah, So I mean, you know, and you know it
doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Fun and Games until it a fun and games until.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Until Lee ends up as a chalk out line.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, until she's got a point it at you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And then that's the problem is you're in the water.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Hey, Lee, what a good birthday gift be, or even
for Valentine's Day? Is that's coming up? Would it be
a kevlar vest? Would that be a fair.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Thing to give you? I'll take what I could get. Yeah,
safety first.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
I don't think anyone would notice after you were the
same alta for three days straight, you know, they go,
he's got a kevlar vest under there. It's hard to
tell the stench from the clothes he's wearing for three.
Speaker 10 (04:56):
Days, drawing more attention, fencing mask, you know, like anything,
it will protect him from you know what, what could
be impending doom each and every day.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
But you know what, hey, you know, listen to eat
your own.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
And surprise, he hasn't been poisoned by now that would.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's the next step. It's like if you've seen Game
of Thrones, there's all sorts of options out there, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
There are all sorts of options. You know that is that?
That is very accurate? We crossed off they all play
out on Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
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Speaker 6 (05:40):
Happened to be the one that uh, Don Joy was
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Speaker 4 (05:43):
You know what I mean, Don Joy? You mean great Joy?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, great Joy, great Joy?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You call him don Joy?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, don Joy?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
These yeah, you know, you know you saw what happened
to Don Joy.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Is that guy's name, Great Joy?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, but Don Joy sounds better.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It does sound better. Good call, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, what happened to him?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
He was very good.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You remember what happened to him?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, he died valiantly.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah. What happened?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
What? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what happened before that? They put
him through it? Yeah, he put him through what? What? What?
Speaker 9 (06:29):
Like?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
What you could actually end up going through? Go go
give people just a snippet of what happened?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What happened?
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Okay, yep, you know what, well done, Well done, Jonas,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Jonas? Well done.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
A whole lot of snippet, A whole lot of snippet
going on? Okay, all right, Yeah, then he feed it
to the dogs too, like what you wasn't getting it back?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You fed it to the hounds.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Tay Tay, lead Joy.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
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Speaker 4 (07:16):
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this game tonight, No clue. I don't know how the
move impacts the Rams. I don't know if this does
(07:39):
anything to the Vikings, who are already going to travel anyways.
The Rams are apparently loading up fans in a bus
that's leaving Inglewood. Here the buses are live outside the
in Inglewood that they're going to take to the game
in Arizona. I have no idea what to expect, Like
literally no idea what to expect. So at least there
is the element of surprise in this game. I just
(08:00):
find it hard to believe that Sam Darnold is going
to roll out that bag of crap two weeks in
a row that he rolled out last week. I just
I can't see that happening with the season they've had.
But could all be for not?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Have you ever seen a snowball stop growing when it's
rolling downhill and picking up more snow.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, So it could.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Either be that or it could just be it was
just two bad weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I mean, when that trend started going bad.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
For the Pittsburgh Steelers this season, it was like there
was cause for concern. I gotta tell you, when you're
supposed to be trending up, which is the end of
the year, unless you're doing so well that you're pulling
guys out and you're not doing as well because you're
not playing your guys. That was not the case with Minnesota.
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That was not the case with Pittsburgh. Both of these
teams were trending down heading into this postseason, and I
just don't know if if that trend is breakable at
this point, I don't know. And for what is worth,
If Matthew Stafford continues to play the way he's been playing,
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and Whoka Nakua keeps cooking them up and vaping them
and smoking these boys out here, and you toss in
a little bit of Cooper Cup with that, Minnesota cond
find themselves heading home after having a magical season, right,
that really could possibly happen.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I think if there's anything we learned from the wildcard round,
it feels like it's more of a byproduct, and this
is usually the playoffs every single year. The quarterbacks that
have experience that have been there, you feel most confident
in and you see the fact that they're able to
adapt to a different speed, a different level and fight
(09:57):
through it. And that's pretty much that's what we saw,
you know, in the wildcard round so far. It's one
of the reasons why if I'm looking at this game tonight,
I sit there and say, like, I trust Matt Stafford,
I trust Sean McVay, I trust all those pieces. And
and it's another thing that's Kevin O'Connell. It's just Sam Darnold.
If he plays the way he kind of has of late,
(10:18):
that doesn't make me overly optimistic. And I'm not sure
what's going to change that switch. When you know, the
last time we saw him out it was a huge moment.
You could basically call it a playoff game because you
were playing for a buy for the number one overall
seed for the division, and it was one of his
worst games to date. And I think you go back
and you look at Philly and you look at that
(10:39):
game by Jordan Love. He was pressing. You know, he's
someone who's a young player in this league, extremely talent
that has been fantastic in the regular season, but on
that stage in the playoffs, it's not quite there yet.
You know, he's got to pick up and learn from
the experiences. Very similar to Justin Herbert talked about him
to begin the show. So I just kind of keep
going back to the quarterback position and saying it just
(11:02):
it feels like, you know, outside of looking at the
Washington Commandos and them finding a way to win last
night and moving on to the next round, which Baker's
got a little bit more playoff experience than Jaden Daniels,
but not much like you rely heavily and lean heavily
on the quarterbacks. You trust the teams that have been there,
that have gone through all this before. It feels like
(11:25):
it's that easy to handicap these things.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
If Sam Darnold struggles.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Does this talk about the biggest, most epic crash and burn?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Ever, I was gonna say this, because he's hit.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
He's hitting for a nice pay day and will whether
it be from Minnesota or someone else.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But does that change whether or not you give him
that payday? I for your Minnesota, Like I wonder if
that would if they would look at this and go
two biggest games of the year and he fell flat
on his face.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Maybe we stayed there away.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
It doesn't have implications these last few games have had
and locations. This game has major implications on what Sam
Bradford's future is because if look at it this way,
you have a skit. Donald, excuse me, you have a
skit at the end of the season. You have a
skid at the end of the season, and then you
(12:15):
lose and go out in the first round of the playoffs.
Why wouldn't you just be like, yeah, we had a
good run with him, but we got McCarthy. He's rehabbing,
he's healthy, let's just move on. Like, why would you
not take that stance if you don't have a serious
run in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think this game has serious implications.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, which is wild to think about because a month
ago it was I mean, is he your long term answer?
And now now it feels like this could all be
riding on this game tonight and it goes.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
It's one of the reasons too, why it's like you
let it play out. You know, everyone's always trying to
like agree to a long term extension with Donald during
the season, and from Sam Donald's standpoint, I'm sure his
representation was knocked on the door of Quasi Adolpho man
Son saying, come on, man, like, let's do this deal.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
But now you look at it and go, okay, we
got we got time. You know, we've got a quarterback
we drafted in the top ten to be able to
be the guy. Let's just let this thing play out,
so you know. And another thing about tonight's game is
I think LA could be one of the more wild
card teams that could make a run because of some
of that experience. Because the playmakers var just talked about
(13:24):
that's a dangerous team, and it's one of those that
it's kind of like it was kind of like Cincinnati
and Joe Burrow. Like let's be honest, if Joe Burrow
and Cincinnati got in the playoffs, that would have been
a dangerous team. People have been like, ohof, I don't
have to worry about playing against Joe and that offense
Jamar Chase t Higgins that grew.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Even as bad as their defense has been that that
was kind of a scary team. I think LA is
that other team that played with house money. Man, how
many people expect them to be there this year? You know,
what were the expectations for the Rams? Like here we are,
go ahead and play with that house money and see
where it takes you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot on the line from
the Minnesota Vikings and the Rams tonight, and they're doing
it all in Arizona, So have fun with that. There's
also you know, the the reported wins are going to
pick up here, so we might be dealing with it
a little bit more here in southern California based on
the what we've seen the past few days. So yeah,
it's gonna be gonna be an interesting night for Rams fans,
(14:23):
both locally and watching that game and or if they're
busting out there being in Arizona for that game as
well too. So it is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
can I I also want to throw this at you
because we didn't have a chance to get into it
with the Mike Rabel agreeing to becoming the next head
coach of the Patriots. One of the stories that came
(14:44):
out and you guys, tell me where this lands. With
you the apparently Tom Brady is really intrigued by Ben Johnson,
enamored by Ben Johnson, and he's been giving him the
full court press to want to go to Vegas and
coach the Raiders, and that he's spoken with his agent
(15:05):
that you know, Ben Johnson has become more and more
interested in potentially talking to the Raiders and interviewing for
that job and potentially liking what he's got there. What
am I missing about the Raiders job that Tom Brady
or Ben Johnson see that I don't see because I
don't know how Ben Johnson is any different than Antonio
(15:29):
Pierce when they don't have a quarterback in that division.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Right, Yeah, I mean you can have it. Q.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Go I mean it's a very you already answered your
own question though, but go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Cue.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Well, I think my perspective on it is this is
more about Tom Brady and his influence as what is
a limited partner, right, a minority owner, than it is
anything else.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
If Ben Johnson is the bell.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Of the ball in this hiring cycle and your first
year being a part of the ownership organization, you can
find a way of convincing Ben Johnson to come be the.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Head coach for the Las Vegas Raiders. That's a win.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Now again, I don't know his relationship with Mike Grabel.
We talked about that in the past. Would that have
made some sense. Maybe Tom doesn't see the Raiders as
a team that needs a more defensive mind a head coach,
or maybe he didn't want to go down that road
of someone like Mike Rabel who's his friend, and deal
with that. But I think this has everything to do
(16:34):
with Tom Brady and him being able to get the
guy that he wants him, being able to have the
influence that he has or thinks he has on the league,
and being able to get these types of people to
set up the Raiders for success and ultimately, in my opinion,
one day become the majority owner.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Like that is the play.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
If you look at really, like what is attractive about
the Raiders outside of its an incredible band brand, They've
got an unbelievable history and fan base, like outside of
those things, and a great like new stadium in a
place like Las Vegas, Like you're looking at it from
a competitive standpoint, going this is not a good situation.
(17:17):
And so even for Tom Brady to invest into this
particular team. You know, I'm sure people were like, wait,
why Las Vegas? Why not the Patriots? Why not the Bucks?
You just want a Super Bowl them. You don't think
the Glazer family would let him become a part of
the ownership structure there in Tampa. And so the answer
can only be, what's because he wants to one day
(17:39):
majority owner and the Craft family has sons they'll pass
the team down to, They'll keep it within the family.
Maybe the Glazers do as well. There's all those things
you take into account. It's like, well, if you want
to own a franchise, it helps to be a minority owner,
get your foot in the door, and then you make
a play at one point in time for the majority ownership.
And so if that's the case, you look at the
(18:00):
long term plan, like how do you convince the NFL,
how do you convince Mark Davis, Roger Candel all the
powers that be that you one day should be the
guy who can be a majority owner. There has to
be a level of building and success. And so by
getting Ben Johnson, by trying to build this team up
to have success. By doing that, like that's one example
(18:23):
of showing it and proving it.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's what I think this has to do with.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know what's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And to add to that point, he does already had
he had ownership and the basketball team as well in
Vegas as well, so he's kind of diversifying within that
that market.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
A lot of times that comes along with that comes
along with some of the other ownerships, right like that
member the ISHBA who just bought the majority ownership of
the Suns, like he took on the WNBA team as well,
Like that kind of came along with the deal.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, I'll just say this because I know we're up
against it all.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
At least, I'll say.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
For me, I believe Tom Brady is a winner. I
believe he's proven he can win as a player. But
to be able to win as a coach is very different.
To be able to win as a GM like John
Lynch has done but has not been able to get
that elusive super Bowl just yet, that's that's a different
it's a different game. As an owner, I'm certain it's
(19:24):
all together a different game. So while I'll sit there
and I'll say, Okay, Tom Brady, you know has the chops,
he has the background, the understanding, the support system to
be able to build a winner in Vegas. I think
it's safe to say you don't know until you know
with something like this, and one thing's for certain, I
(19:45):
would assume being a winner as an owner is probably
going to be a much more humbling experience than being
a winner as a player.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And I would say, and I would.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Offer the reasoning to be You've played the game your
entire life. You had opportunities to learn, grow, develop, fail, win, succeed,
you know, come up short, all kinds of different training
things that took place through the years. And you have
only been an owner for less than a year, So
(20:20):
I understand there'll be a lot of lessons you take
into being an owner from what you learned throughout your life,
your life's journey. But still, nonetheless, being an owner still
is something that's new for him and he's going to
have to go through those learning phases of being an owner.
And I think that there could be success, but there
(20:41):
could also be major, major failure and what takes place
and to see how that plays out, I think is
going to be super intriguing.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, well, Nielsen, good luck, godspeed to the Las Vegas
Raiders in that division with no quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Have fun, with that.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Coin, Jonas KNOCKX
with you coming up next from the tire rack dot
Com Studios. It's the game, it's the game it's on.
It's the matchup that's going to impact somebody's entire life.
Here coming up very very soon, we'll get into that
for you next on FSR.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 4 (21:29):
Two Pros and a Coup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with the air Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers here on
this football Recap Monday. That'll be yours here from the
tire rack dot Com Studios. Now, on Friday night, we
knew who was going to be in one half of
(21:50):
the National Championship for College Football. We were waiting on
the second and we.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Knew we went have.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Jim Man, jam My old Spice, he's not wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
You shut your ass up, Hey, you can sit your
ass down.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
I'm just saying, if y'all would have won, you would
have been gloating and you'd have been talking.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I would have been tearing you up. You're right exactly,
and you don't want but tearingdn't.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So sit your ass down, let you know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Damn all right, that's fair, that's fair. Y'all.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
See what y'all did to men Nation, y'all got you
talking to me bad?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Or radio.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Y'all done to me this time.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Y'all didn't really do it this time, but.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We do know who Notre Dame will be playing now.
Thanks to Jack Sawyer and a strip sack, the Ohio
State Buck guys are onto the national Championship.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Sex has wanted the window. They didn't want to win.
They didn't want to win.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Man the touchdown before half a killer like it felt
like Texas got a little momentum back and then very
first play the.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Screen Treveon was shot out of a cannon on that
I do want to address one sequence that I feel
like Steve Sarkisian is taking a lot of heat and
let me just preface anything I say by this, and
I think you guys would agree, Like, does anyone watch
more film on the Ohio State defense in preparation for
(23:26):
that game than Steve Sarkasian his staff?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Is that fair to say? Guys?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Okay, could we stop second guessing like the play calling
and realize that, like there's in no instance ever and
LeVar you've coached, I don't think you've ever called a
play and went up, I'm calling this stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Like you call it because you think it's going to work,
based on all the research you've done, all the game planning,
(23:54):
your data, your analytics, what you think you're going to
get an Oftentimes, more often than not, especially for good
play callers, offensively and defensively, you get what you think
you're gonna get. But there's a lack of execution. Someone
loses a one on one matchup. So if you go
down to we're talking about the jack sare Stripsack, which
(24:16):
a lot of people point to and say, well, they
were first and goal, and look at the ploy calling.
Look Steve circuit, oh my gosh, and in particular, the
toss play we used to call it Taxi didn't have
a different formation, but the toss play that lost them
like seven yards and kind of put them more backed up.
Everyone seem to have an issue with it. And so
(24:37):
when I go back and watch it, they're in man
to man. They end up bringing the tight end over
who obviously is man, comes along with him Ransom, who's
got him in coverage, And at that moment, I'm thinking
to myself, like, Okay, you're not gonna try to run
up the middle again. You tried that on first and
goal didn't work right, brought in all the big bodies.
You try to do that. You're going up against what
(24:59):
the number two, number three defense in the country, the
number two or three red zone touchdown percentage defense in
the country.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Like the Ohio State. That good.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's really it's been seldom that you've seen teams run
the ball against him into the end zone, especially up
the middle. So they do this toss play to the
outside and Downs ends up running underneath and coming through
Scott Free. Now, Downs didn't ultimately make the play. Downs
took a stiff arm, was down and that was pretty
much it. If that play was blocked properly, it's most
(25:32):
like a touchdown for Texas. However, your tackle didn't block
well out in space, your wide receiver wing go is
in man to man coverage. If he just blocks down
in the safety Ransom in this case, which was his assignment,
And you could kind of see Second guesses himself as
what is and what he's supposed to do, usually to
its most dangerous man MDM. And so he's gonna look
(25:52):
at the safety, try to block down in the safety.
His man's gonna follow him until he realizes it's a run.
By that point in time, he's probably out leveraged and
he's probably gonna have to try to go make an
angle tackle at best the pylon. So again, it wasn't
a bad play call. It was really poor execution by
two players in particular.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And that happens.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
It happens thought of course the game in big moments
all of that, and so I just I'm so tired
of hearing these people like second guests, Steve Sarkisian who's
made his name, he's a head coach at Texas because
of his offensive play calling, like that is why he's
where he's at.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Can we just stop it. It's it's so tiresome, man,
it really is.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Can I can I add to this conversation. Please.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I was I was in state college, and I was
eating enjoying a meal. And I love fans. I love
engaging fans. I will say, for the most part, it's
pretty cool. The one thing that has run its course
with me is having patients about coach Franklin. And and
so that was one of the questions, like, well, what
(26:58):
do you think about coach Franklin. And then somebody ask
you that you already know what their conclusion already is.
They want you to support them in being able to
bash coach Franklin. And I said, my response to that
would be all of the fans out there that think
they can take all of the elements that James Franklin
(27:18):
has brought to the table to get them to the
point of where they are one game away from playing
international title game. I want to see you do it.
I want to see you put together your coaching staff.
I want to see you recruit. I want to see
you get the commits. I want to see you coach them.
I want to see you create the schedule. I want
(27:39):
to see you make sure they graduate. I want to
see you make sure that they're doing the things that
they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I want to see you do it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I want to see you do it because if you
have such a strong opinion of knowing what isn't good
and they suck and they can't do this and they
can't do that, I'd love to see you do it,
love to see how you fare out.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And what it is that you're able to do, since
you know so much about what a coach can and
can't do, and what.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
They should have called and why they should have did
it and why they didn't do it, and this, that
and the other. Okay, let's make the rubber meet the road.
Let's really truly make the rubber meet the road. Could
you really lead a team any Give you the most
major team, give you Penn State, give you a Notre dame,
and give you Texas. Do you think that you could
(28:34):
do a better job than what that coach is doing.
I don't even need to get to the place of
where Steve Sarkisian. Steve Sarkisian was in position to beat
Ohio State. He was in position to beat Ohio State.
It didn't play out. Okay, it didn't happen boom, they lost,
But they are a few plays away from playing in
(28:56):
a national title game. I just don't understand the the
losion that some of these people live in. What is
it that is going to make you happy? Because, you
know what's interesting, whatever coach loses this game, maybe not
Freeman because Freeman, but has become somewhat of a national phenomenon. Sweetheart.
I think it's the whole hairline thing. Give James Franklin
(29:18):
credit for it. He's like this national sweetheart. But outside
of outside of Freeman, if Ryan Day were to lose
black Beard, if he were to lose this game, do
you understand how bad his ass is going to get
lit up by the fan base, by the media, by everybody.
(29:38):
Do you understand how ugly that's going to get He
couldn't beat Michigan, he couldn't win in the national title game.
It's like, it's never enough for you, schmucks. It's never enough.
Win is enough enough? You'll win a national title? You
lose game one the next year, you know what they'll say,
(29:58):
you gotta fire them. What's wrong with them? Why can't
they win? Like you know, it's fun, just don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Before we were going so we were getting ready to
leave to head to the stadium, for the Orange Bowl,
and Lee and I were downstairs at the hotel and
there was a Penn State fan who was there with
his wife, and they're just kind of, you know, got
to talking, and that guy we got, you know, thirty
seconds into the conversation, I think James Franklin's a terrible coach.
I'm thinking to myself, we've heard that so much, and
(30:30):
you hear it so often about terrible coach, terrible plaque.
I honestly don't believe that the general public has any
idea why or has any reasoning to put behind why
somebody's a terrible coach or why something was a terrible
play call, Because if you're not there, you have no
clue what the plan was supposed to be. You have
(30:50):
no idea, you like, just from the outside, you have
no idea what was happening, what was called, what was
going on. But it's kind of a general term that's
thrown out, terrible coach. Okay, And we were making the
point on on Friday, if James Franklin was fired, he
(31:10):
would get hired in fifteen minutes, Like if Ryan Day
was let go by Ohio State, You mean to tell
me with what he's done he wouldn't have a job
almost immediately, like just this this whole concept of terrible.
This guy is not good Sarkesian like he's it's not
like he's coached at like run of the mill in
Texas's his first ever program he's ever been at. No,
(31:32):
he's been at big programs and worked at big universities.
And it's not because he's an idiot, Like, it's not
because he slept his way to the top. No, like
he actually put the time in. He knows what the
hell he's doing. So when you hear these people talk about,
well what's this and he's terrible, Okay, well then go
get better, like find somebody better, because if that guy leaves,
(31:53):
he's gonna have a job in twenty minutes. It's weird. Man.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
On a side, not only is he gonna have a job,
there's going to be a lot of them kids that
end up not being at that school.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Too, So work on that one too.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
On a side note, can we get a play by
play of Lee on that media bus to the stadium?
I mean he had to have brought drinks or something
with him, right.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
No, we didn't, we didn't take the media bus.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, what do you have that beneath us. How did
I get there? Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
We took an uber. Oh yeah, they can't.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Okay, So then how was the trip there? Because it
took a while, and I assumed Lee brought drinks.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Actually we got a coffee to go.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
No, not we, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking
about Lee.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, to go.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
You didn't put any alcohol in it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Lee.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Well, I had a beer at the at the hotel
bar waiting for Jonas to come on down, and then
we got a coffee to go.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You had a G and T.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Oh, I did have a G and T?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Is that a beer and a gn T? Or just
a G and T?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Just a G and T.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
And you didn't put any alcohol on the coffee.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, but he thinks you are horrible. Bro. You gotta
do better with your life.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Man, I'm just saying you got to do at the stadium,
he was holding a medello, So I know.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I know you started drinking at some point.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I found the open bar at the at the.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Lee. Can you know one thing we don't ask you, bro?
How much water do you drink?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I've been on this PhD you know, doctor deal, and
you know how much water do you drink?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like honest, honest answer. How much water do you drink?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Some days I do better.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
You can always drink more water. My goal is a half.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Again, that was not an answer said like.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
I can always do better. Some days are better than others,
but yeah, you can always have more water. Yeah, and
then just leave space for like like someone's gonna accept that.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
How many glasses? How many glasses of water or average
do you drink in a day? Like two glasses of water?
Like you are going you are in trouble, bro, what
you are?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You are? You are? You are in some serious trouble.
So you drink? How many are right? How many glasses?
How many on average?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
How what's your ratio of water glasses of water to
things that you drink like alcohol wise or beer.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Average?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I'll drink like two or three seltzers and then two
or three and then a.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Couple and that's like your water intake. Ye, so two
or three seltzers to every one water? Yeah, on average?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
On average?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Bro, he has an iguana.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Until you're not an iguana, until you're not drink water.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
It's amazing.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
He gonna he's gonna come in one day and his
ankle is gonna be all swoll up like how ma
can get You're gonna have them bloodshot ankles and and shins,
and you're gonna be like, what what the hell is happening?
You're gonna realize it's too late. Some better start drinking
some water.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Some days I'm pretty good, Like I'll do a half
callon a day some days when I'm on.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It old, okay, damn all right.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with the right. So speaking of Lee, We've got Lee's leftovers,
will close up shop with next year on FSR, be sure.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
To catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 4 (35:39):
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Speaker 3 (36:15):
These might smell a little fun.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Time to find out what's lack.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's Lee's lap, alright, Lee, speed it up?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, I don't know what how much I could get
in here?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
We'll speaking alright, Lee, speaking of smelling fucky, I was
not able to retrieve any small bottles of shampoo or body.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Wash because now they like they attach them to the walls.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now and Lee, have you taken a shower yet? Uh?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Yes, of course, Hey Lee, they do that for cheap
asses like yourself. They realized what was happening. Now they
did it.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Dang jerk move.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
They do connect them to the wall. Dang, I will
I don't. I don't actually believe you took a shower?
Yet Go take a shower today, Take an extra one.
It's okay, all right,
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