January 16, 2025 • 39 mins
Jim Harbaugh pushes back on criticism against Justin Herbert following their elimination. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer talks coaching searches and the National Championship. Plus another edition of Lee’s Leftovers.
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Brady Quinn on the show, you know not. I mean, listen,
I'm not going to excuse the absence the birth of
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a child. That is what is going on. He is
up to eight hundred and three children. This will be
eight hundred and four, and they are currently in the
process of making that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
He did say that he would potentially be calling in
everything goes smooth, and we are we're hoping that it
will because they've been through this a few times. He
did say he would be calling in at some point
if he could. So maybe maybe Brady Quinn will be
discussing the newest arrival to the Quinn household from a
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hospital somewhere in Ohio. That could be the case. So,
I don't know what was the what was the biggest
memory for you from uh, you know, uh the birth
of a child? Like do you have a idea? Do
you recall anything? Does mine? Happened during COVID So it
was kind of a weird time.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I mean, I just felt like the best memory was
the fact that everybody was okay, yeah, you know every
single time, like you know, you just you just hope,
you hope for everything to it's like the most the
most like subtle things of Okay, this happened, the baby's coming,
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the baby came out, the baby's there, okay, the mom
is okay, there's ten fingers, there's ten toes, like you know,
baby's breathing okay. Like there's no crazy complications or anything
going along with it. Like those are my best memories
because it's like it's like hitting your pinky toe. It
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only matters when it happens, you know, I mean, like
it only would have mattered if something was not what
it was supposed to be. It was pretty routine every time,
And that's the most memorable part of it is that,
And the part that I liked the most about it
is that it was it was routine.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you cry it all?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah I didn't either, Like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Even always felt as though I always felt as though
very emotional like accomplishments in life like getting drafted or having.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
A kid, or you know, tying the knot.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Or whatever it may be, that you know, you find
yourself in tears like no, it's not, you know, it's not,
it's no.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I just I never I just thought it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Was I've never cried over things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, like it happened. It was really cool and it's
an amazing moment. You'll never forget it. And I was
just like, uh, all right, breathing, can we get this
show on the road. Let's let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Off that dump that dump that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Get we on the road, get this show on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Oh oh, I thought I heard something different, my bet,
Oh bet, my bet, I thought I heard something totally
different from you. Right, No, No, that was not a
way because oh god, I swear I heard him say,
didn't something different?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, that was My mentality was like, hey,
let's let's let's get rocking and rolling here, all right.
What you got to do? What's next? What happens now?
So yeah, but again that congratulating to uh, to Brady
and and Alicia and who knows it could be having
a conversation with a newborn in the background at some
point here soon. All right, So let's have a conversation
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about another quarterback in the NFL who's gotten some heat
all throughout the course of the week. That somebody would
be none other than Justin Herbert of the LA Chargers,
who went into Houston last week as a three point
favorite and proceeded to throw four interceptions. Just not a
great performance by the Chargers as a whole. It felt
like that was a game that they probably could have
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had control of early. They couldn't do enough on offense.
Houston stayed alive in the game. There was a missed
interception by Derwin James in the end zone which would
have been a key play in the second half, and
then it was just like a landslide after that pick six,
another interception, nether interception. Just a bad game all the
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way through for the LA Chargers and Justin Herbert. But
Jim Harbaugh, his head coach no surprise here, stuck up
for his quarterback when discussing the situation yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
My responsibility.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
We did not put him in We did him in
disservice and didn't put him in the positions to be
successful enough. But he played like a beast. I mean,
there's nobody And that was your question, how do I
think he played? After watching the tape, you know, I
second that doubled on that statement. There's nobody. There's nobody
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in this entire organization who gives more blood, sweat and
tears and contributes more produces more for the entire organization
justin Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So that is Jim Harbust going up for his quarterback,
Justin Herbert. And whether he wants to, I mean he
wants to, you know, believe this or if he wants
to go in this direction or not. There is a
narrative that is slowly being built with Justin Herbert. That
narrative is, well, he can get you to the postseason,
but what can he do afterwards? Saving with the Lamar Jackson.
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It doesn't mean it's always fair and it's always right,
but that is a reality because that was awful this
past week. It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I just wonder why he's not falling under as much
heat as as a Lamar Jackson or a Trevor Lawrence.
Why is it he being talked about in that manner?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
What do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Right? At some point?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't know, Like I can get your head coach
defending you and speaking highly of you.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He was not a beast in that game.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's like, let's be clear, he was pedestrian in that game.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like that's cool that you like hyping in.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
We could go back to the elevator story and clearly
know that you have an affinity, a healthy affinity for
your quarterback. Nobody has a problem with you having a
healthy affinity. But what you got to be careful of
is when you're sitting there and you're hyping someone up
and it cost you your own credibility in the end.
And so to me, I'm just curious, like Justin Herbert
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has not delivered anything out of the ordinary since being
the quarterback of the Los Angeles Chargers, So why isn't
he falling under fearce, scrutiny and criticism for sitting.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
At home right now? Why is that? Like?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
What has is what has transpired that has kind of
kept Justin Herbert from the cross hears of being criticized
for not delivering more in the postseason. I think this
was right about the time where, like Trevor Lawrence makes
it to the postseason, everybody's like, Okay, he's showing the
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potential to possibly transition into being more than just a
quarterback that came in with high promise as a draft pick,
and and that that ship almost seems.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
To have sailed.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Like, I don't know that anybody knows how to really
kind of address or talk about.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Where we're at with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Why are we not having the same conversation about Justin Herbert?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, you know, why are we not? I mean,
are you noticing a theme between those two?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Is that what one's black? Ones white? What's the problem?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
What we got here? What's the problem here?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean, look, I mean, if we want to have
like the Trevor Lawrence conversation is interesting, here's but here's that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Would have been the easy play. That would have been
the easy play. But we don't have that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
These are two of the most good looking as white
boys that you're going to get, ye play the position,
the very tall, long flowing hair, good looking dudes. So
you have put it on anything. We can't make it
about race. We can't make it one is uglier than
the other.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We're kind of carbon cop.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can we run with this on our on the f
SR Twitter account, just to have one of us quoted
as saying, man, this conversation would be so much more
interesting if Trevor Lawrence was black, Like, this would be
one of those like we can because.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It would be all because it would be an easier
way of justifying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Right, It would be the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You can't you can't.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I can't figure this one out. Though this one is confusing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, I mean, here's what's not confusing. Trevor Lawrence looks
like the guy and the painting and Ghostbusters too, That's
what's not confusing. And anybody that wants to dispute that,
they can dispute it all they want. But here's the
part about like either discussion, whether it's Trevor Lawrence, whether
it's Justin Herbert, whether it was Lamar Jackson. Anybody that
wants to point to quote unquote playoff failures, that's fine.
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That team that has those guys isn't letting them go
because you'd rather be in a position to get to
the postseason and you'll take your chances when you get there.
There's no guarantees that you're going to be able to
win a playoff game or overcome playoff adversity. Dak Prescott
struggled in the postseason at times. Guess what still got paid.
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And so anybody that wants to have the discussion about, well,
Trevor Lawrence doesn't deserve this. And Justin Herbert that okay,
But how many quarterbacks are you taking over Justin Herbert
right now? In the NFL, Like, how many other teams
in the NFL wish they had a Justin Herbert as
opposed to their current coquarterback majority of them?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And so so we moved the gold post and qualified
differently outside of having success. No, there's another metric. There's
other metrics. Of course, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, No, what I'm saying other metrics.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
The other metrics is what other quarterback would you rather
have than Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What what I'm saying is, if we're only going to
decide whether or not somebody's a success in the NFL
based on playoff success, then you're going to cant be
canceling out a lot of careers in the NFL of
people who came up short in the postseason but were
damn good players in the regular season. And I just
I think I think we base a lot of this
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on well they It's like the Chargers as a whole
didn't play great. His oh line didn't. Like there's a
lot of factors that go into like people not playing well.
Like there's a lot like there's other things that happen,
like Lamar Jackson, Like did anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Think quarterbacks and hey, coaches, they get the blame quarterback,
and hey, coaches done, whatever it is you want to
call it. You know what, those same elements exist for
Patrick Mahomes, and yet he still finds a way to
be a part of or being the catalyst of why
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the Kansas City Chiefs win. Like done, and they should
all be measured and weighed the same way. You know,
some of them teams have more weapons than what Patrick
Mahomes has, and yet this team continues to still find
ways to win games. They're pushing for their third championship.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, but he's the exception to a rule. Like I mean,
it's like Tom.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Brian, this is the pros. This is the pros. It's
the pros. So while he is the exception to the rule,
you are still based measured and weighed off of being
that exception to the rule. If you're not that exception
to the rule, you're just another guy. You're just another guy.
Because ultimately, what are you trying to do if you're
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a team in the National Football League?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Jonas, what you trying to do?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You trying to win games?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, you're not trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Not everybody's trying to win the super Bowl, but just
trying to win the game.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, then then thirty one teams fail every year and
should be held account well that failure.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Only the guys who show the promise of taking your
team to that big game, only the guys who win
that big game, should be void of the criticisms and
should be void of all of the things that are
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said about them in terms of if they can do
it or or how we should be viewing.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Them as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Only the guys who show the potential to take their
teams to those places should not fall victim to those
types of like really really very critical, very very aggressive
approaches to what are you as a quarterback to this team?
And I think Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert should fall in
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that category.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
He should be under criticism.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So you don't think he should be called a beast
until he proved No, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
No little beast. Damn, you're a little beast. You ain't
a beast beast, You're a little beast. You're Jimmy's beast.
You're Jimmy Horrorball's beast. But I'm just like, seriously, seriously, though,
you can't sit there and tell me that if you're
not taking like Lamar Jackson. Okay, you could say Lamar
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Jackson hasn't gotten it done in the playoffs, but at
the end of the day, I don't think there's anybody
yet that would say my criticism should be I don't
know that Lamar Jackson can take us to a super Bowl,
because that would be inaccurate and it would sound uninformed
and uneducated. Sure, he doesn't have a great record in
the playoffs, but everything about what he does says that
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he has the potential to take his team to the
to the super Bowl. Agreed, same thing with Josh Allen,
Same thing with Jalen Hurts. Agreed same thing with pretty
much most all the elite quarterbacks, franchise quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The only ones you don't say that about are the
ones that can't do it. They can't do it. So
if you look at like you said, most of these teams, sure,
most of these teams, Jared Goff, I think we say he.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Could take his team to the to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Done it.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
All the teams that are left in the playoffs right now,
I think you would say that their quarterback can take
and Jaydon Daniels is only a rookie, and we still
had the idea that you know what, I don't think
it's a foregone conclusion that that Detroit's just going to
run away with winning the game against against Washington.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean, the Commanders and the Texans are just because
they need another team to play like, I mean, they're
really I mean, nobody really considers that one of the final.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Are you telling me that the Texans don't have a
chance with CJ. Stroud as their quarterbacks try to make
it to the Super Bowl? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
As the in laws would say, Settle, settle chance that they're.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Winning like zero zero? Hey, zero, Settle. They got a chance.
They got a chance because they got a quarterback that
you could talk about in regards to possibly carrying their
team deeper into the playoffs. Now, if they continue to lose,
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now that becomes the narrative.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Now the criticisms are warranted.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
If Lemar Jackson doesn't get to the super Bowl this year,
stop giving him MVP. Stop saying he's like, oh, this
is the best player in your league. He's not good
enough to deliver the goods when the goods are needed.
You got to start having those conversations. And if you're
going to have that about the best player, in the league,
the most talented gifted player athletically in the league.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That was MVPs.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
That everybody else should fall victim to being open to
those criticisms as well.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
There's a better chance of the Washington Bullets winning the
Super Bowl and the Commanders think about that?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What about this week?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What about say, Mark? They winning? Yeah, that's happening. It
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Coming up next here from the tiraq dot com studios,
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of these rumors that are out there about coaches going
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We'll get into that next for you here from our
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:17):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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That will be yours here on FSR. But right now
it is a Thursday tradition. It is Albert Breer, the
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He is a senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at
the MmpB. You can get him on x at Albert
Breer AB. Good morning, How are we feeling?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I see Brady's ducking me huh.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh geez swiping early. He's they're expecting us are looking
pretty good.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I wish if we just tay congratulations to Brady. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
So uh he's well thanks, that's very kind of that's
very nice for you to be looking the say congratulations
to him like.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
You know, the last time for the last time week. Yeah,
that's the last time this week.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Can I support LeVar in this moment, like just like okay,
all about that was.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
A tough one, LeVar, that was a tough one. I
will say that. I mean, you guys have I mean,
like I felt the total we played. You guys have
some athletes like I I don't know, like it was
it would be hard for me to watch that if
I was TENN State and not feel one's hard. Yeah,
that combination of like Abuel Carter and Tyler Warren and
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Nick Singleton Allen and like it's just you sort of
look at and it's like, was this the team? You
know what I mean? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, you know, all those guys, Well, some of those
guys are coming back next year at least, you know, yeah,
they chose to come back, so we should be good
to give you know.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah, well maybe maybe it'll be like a slat like
this year right where we we got everybody back for
an extra year. So anyway, I'm trying to help. I'm
trying to help with oar out there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, thank you for the support. I appreciate that. Abe.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I got to ask you, how real is the Ben
Johnson to the Raiders smoke that's out there.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I think relatively real, Like you know, I Tom Brady
is a factor in this, and you know, like I
I think at the beginning of it, Ben wasn't even
gonna take an interview with them, you know. And yeah,
and I think I said to you guys, would be
a little bit more selective. So, you know, the three
interviews that he had chosen to take more New England,
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which I think he sort of viewed that as a
warm up, and he liked the New England job, but
I think most people felt like it was probably going
to very ball along.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Then yeah, Jacksonville and Chicago and and you know, Brady
I was was was really able to sell his people
on the idea of of of what the Raiders could
be and what the Raiders we're gonna do to change
what they've been over the last couple of decades, and
that this wouldn't be the same old Raiders, and you know,
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it's it's not just Tom like which you know, I
think he's a piece of it, you know, and he's
not going to be there day to day. He lives
in Florida. But you know, I think there was this
sort of like conviction that like there's gonna be we're
gonna get good people there, and you know there's gonna
be there's gonna be financial backing there with you know,
this this, uh, this this private equity CEO Egan Durban
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and some other guys investing in the team now, and
you're gonna have some time to build it out. So
the roster isn't very good now. I don't think you
guys need me to tell you that. And there's gonna
whoever is the coach is going to need some runway,
you know. But I think what the Raiders have to
offer is sort of different than what the other teams
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have to offer, which Jacksonville has Trevor Lawrence, a decent
cor of players, Chicago has Caleb Williams. Some pieces that
build around the Raiders kind of offer you a blank
slate where it's like, Okay, we're going to give you
the chance to build this the way that you see fit,
and we're going to give you this flaying canvas. And
so I think the appeal to the job is a
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little bit different than than than what you're seeing with
the other with the other two. But yeah, I mean,
the interest is real. He wouldn't have taken the interview
unless it was he wasn't going to take an interview
this year with the job that he wouldn't, you know,
legitimately see himself taking, which is one reason why you
don't hear about him with the Jets.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Ab was Mike McCarthy not re upping and still being
the coach of Dallas a surprise to Jerry Jones and
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know, Jonas asked a question, any of these coaches
out here and upgrade to Mike McCarthy. I think that
Dion's Sanders should be a legitimate contender or recipient for
the job, not because you know, the fame and the
splash idea of it. I think he's really a good
coach and I think he might be maybe the final
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frontier in terms of somebody who actually thinks just as
highly of themselves and what they know and what they
bring to the table and would be able to handle
being in an environment such as Jerry Jones and Steven Jones.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, I think LeVar, like the last thing you said
is an important piece of it, which like, not everybody's
cut out to coaching Dallas. You know, it's a different
environment there. It's not the same as the other thirty one,
you know, and the pressure of being in that role
managing the relationship with ownership when ownership so involved in
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the football operation, the structure of it is is just different.
You know, the pressure is just different. And you know,
I think the the upside of all that is the
coach is going to have a major say, you know.
And I think Jerry's coaches would all tell you that that,
like the coach there is not just you know, it's
not just their coach. He's gonna have input in personnel.
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He's gonna input and have input in the way the
team's put together. And so you know, like I I
think understanding kind of the dynamics of the organization are
an important piece of it. I also think, like you know,
for all the flash and everything else, I mean, lavarthink
you degree with the actually an old school coach, right,
like you know what I mean, like he like, I think,
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his principles if you watch, you watch the way he works,
you watch what he the way he handles his team's
very old school, you know. And I think in that way,
it's not unlike like a Saban or a Belichick where
it's like you're going to have a team that is
gonna really be grounded and fundamentals and and it's going
to be tough, you know, and and and and and
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it's going to be looking for a certain type of player.
So I think all that stuff is good, you know,
Like I think the flip side of it is, you
would you are going to need some infrastructure to help
him adjust the coaching at the NFL level from a
scheme standpoint and all of that. So I think, like
you can you can build that stuff out, you know
what I mean, Like you can you can go get
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coaches that are going to be able to help you
in those areas and and help support Dion as he
makes this transition to the NFL. So I I I
don't think it's the craziest idea in the world that
that that he could make it work. It's a risk
it could certainly crash and burn. But I do think,
like beyond all the packaging that we get, like what
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we see with Dion, you know, there is an old
school like like fundamental approach to the way that he
does it. But I think, you know is lost in
some corners of the NFL and probably would work in
Pro football if again, you had the right infrastructure around
him to support him with some of the stuff that
he might need to catch up on in terms of
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in terms of coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Albert Brier is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on ex at Altbert Brier, Abe, who's the
next if you had to guess right now, next vacancy filled?
And who's the guy that gets it?
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I mean, the rules make it really tough to have
to get this stuff done fast, you know. The one
that I the one that I sort of feel good about.
So like I think Mike McCarthy could wind up with
the Saints. I think Ben Johnson if like if certain
things move around, like if they if they could reassign
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Trent Balki, I think he could end up in Jacksonville.
I think Vegas is a possibility for him. I like
Aaron Glenn with the Jets or Saints. Maybe, like if
McCarthy winds up with the Saints, and I think Glenn
winds up with the Jets. Chicago's a wild card to
me because I think Chicago, you know, I think, you know,
if you look at Chicago, could could have be McCarthy,
could have be Glenn.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I think you have like the small you know, circle
of the small group of coaches that I think are
going to sort of have a couple of teams, like
really looking hard at them. So Chicago's the one that's
I think a little bit harder to peg right now.
And I'm not quite sure what direction they go in,
but I will give. I will give like the team's credit.
Like it does seem like most of these teams are
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going into this with a pretty open mind. And I
think that's a good thing to see, you know, because
when you go in with an open mind, it gives
you a chance to go and have like real conversations
with people, and it's gonna make your organization better. Having
talked to other teams about the way they do business,
you know, guys from other teams, about the way that
they do business, it's going to give whoever your choice
(27:38):
for the net for your next coach is the best
chance to succeed. So so yeah, I mean I think
I look, i'd say the next one to be filled,
that'd be kind of tough to peg, you know, got
into my head. Maybe I'd take one to the jests.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
We were just talking last segment about Justin Herbert. Jonas
seems to think that Justin Herbert should be left alone
and looked at glowingly the same exact way Jim Harball
looks at him. I say he should be under the
same type of scrutiny and criticism as as Trevor Lawrence
and Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Why is it that it seems like.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Trevor or Justin Justin Herbert is seemingly immune to like
really really I won't say harsh, but definitely should be
a little bit more intense scrutiny and criticism on what
he can possibly get done as a quarterback in the
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Well, I think part of it is like the market
he's in, right, I mean, like if he was in
a market in the northeast, or he was the quarterback
of the Bears of the Cowboys, don't you guys think
it would be different?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What are you trying to say about la career? Damn man?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, I don't know. I don't know. It's charge of
sheiver like like overtaking lad. I mean, look, I'm just saying, look,
don't you it's different. It's just different. And it's like
I look at it, like you know, like there are
certain places where you know, the quarterback of the football
team is going to be viewed like every every everything
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that he does is going to be watched very very closely,
and every game is going to be treated like a
season onto itself, you know what I mean. Like, and
I don't know that that that Herbert's been under that
sort of microscope, you know, on a week to week
based in Los Angeles. And now that said, I think
he's got I think he's already a really good quarterback,
you know, and I think like Jim Harvard is the
(29:35):
right coach for him, and I think they're going to
get there. You know. I look at the quarterback across town,
and you know, in Matthew Stafford, he had to ride
out a lot of bumps early in his career and
he wound up getting there. The flip side of it, though,
the flip side of it is the very elite quarterbacks,
right like, look at what those guys go through and
(29:55):
have made it. Pat made it for the right like
Joe Burrow, I would say, like lifted up that organization
and change the perception of angles, right like, and played behind.
I mean, got to a Super Bowl with a really
shaky offensive line. You look at Lamar Jackson this year,
they lose sixty percent of their offensive line. They don't
miss a beat. Buffalo Josh Allen, they lose Stefan Diggs,
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they lose Mitch Morris this offseason, the defense loses a
lot of its leadership infrastructure. They may be better this
year than they were the year before. Kansas City is
the ultimate example. They trade Tyreek Kill. They went back
to back Super Bowl the two years after they trade
Tyreek Kill. Think about that, right, and then think about
like their tackle issue this year, like what they had
to kind of fight through a tackle and not knowing
(30:40):
who their left tackle was until the very end of
the year when they move a guard out there to
play that position. Let's they have all the injuries you
know at receiver with Rushie Rice and Hollywood Brown going
down its shifts. I mean, like that's the very elite level,
like where instead of like being kind of clide your circumstances,
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you're fixing every problem your team has. And so is
Herbert on that level. I don't think we can say
he's on that level yet, right because those guys have
done it, and I don't know that he's done it
like they have. But there's no shame in being, you know,
in the next level down, which I think is probably
where he's at right now.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Alber Breer before we let you go. This is a tradition.
I'm looking at DraftKings right now. Ohio State an eight
and a half point favorite. I might have got up
to nine, maybe in nine and a half someplace, but
it's been pretty steady at eight and a half on
DraftKings throughout the course of the bank. Yeah. What do
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you think, Breer, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Who are you guys taking?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's a lot of points, it is, but Notre Dame's
pretty banged up, so I can understand why that would
be the thought. But it is a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think Ohio State is going to destroy him.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I under play on.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Such a high level right now.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It's if they continue, like Texas was going to be
their hardest game.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I I and I watched LeVar, right it sort of
felt like there were points of the tens. I don't
want to rehash anything.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
For you, but I didn't feel like there were We
should have took the game over.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
They could have took the feel like that. It felt
like it felt.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Like we could have ran away with it. Yes, right, right, right?
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And I and I sort of feel like this, like
the Texas game if you look, and I think Texas
was a team that physically was like most of the
Ohio States tire. There were points where Ohio State could
have run away with that, and like they kept the
penalties kept coming, and you had a bad turnover, and
like there were certain things that kind of kept that
(32:47):
one close. My my, my, my, my, my head says,
they cover my heart says, I don't want to jink
some So I'll give you the point in the interest
of in the interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Do very very good, well played, that is well played.
That'll keep you freaking sorry.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I gotta be my gambling, my gambling language.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Right, I'll take some point.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, well a B. We appreciate it. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB,
the star of and Amazon's NFL on Prime Thursday night
coverage and get him on x at Albert Breer, thanks
so much, enjoying the games this weekend. Good luck to
the buck guys on Monday.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
All right, all right, thanks guys, and all seriousness, all
the best everybody out there in Los Angeles. I hope
you guys, are you guys and your families are doing
good and everybody else too. We're all we're all rooting
for you out there.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, it's been a wild one. So yeah,
we're hopefully hopefully out of the woods at some point here.
Thanks Ab, We'll do it again next week. Guys, the
Great Albert Breer with us year on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (34:47):
These might smell a little fun, came what does that?
Sounds incredible, but they're still good. Time to find out
what's left? It's Lee's laugh jovers.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And by the way, can I just give a shout
out to h Veto and Ricky who put the imaging
together for Lee's leftovers? The added detail of opening the
fridge and the bottles and the side side drawer and
the side yeah, just kind of clanging against the walls
of the fridge. Just you know, it's a nice little touch.
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What else we got Lee? Well?
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Also a shout out to one of our listeners who
put out an AI generated image of Brady with his
newborn son.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Have you seen this? It doesn't look anything like Brady.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
It almost got me for a second, was like, Brady
wouldn't put out a picture right his son's.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Dressed in Ohio steak. Hear right? It's the arm Jonas
look at the baby's arm.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
It's like the arms are melding into each other, connected
to Brady's arm.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, that's a really that's a piss poor job of
an Ai.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Yeah, good job Ai.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah that sucked. Guys.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
You know when you make an excuse to like get
out of you know, somebody invites you to something, you're like, sorry, man,
I can't make it this time. You know, next time maybe,
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, var Leabar does it to me every time I
ask him to go anywhere and hang out.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
And then they have the follow up. He's like, oh, well,
you know, the day after that, we could do it again.
And you're like, man, you got to keep coming up
with excuses. Iowa Sam, a day after I turned him
down for Iowa versus USC, he's asking me to go
to Iowa versus.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
U c l A.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
When's that game Friday night? So I haven't given him
an excuse.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Yet, but to give him an excuse, I don't want
to because I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't want to go, you don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I will, but charm, but charm.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I have to be there for Iowa because my spy,
my own spice.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean like and plus the last time you
and Sam hung out, things got a little creepy and weird,
and you know, he gets lost doing public transportation, and
you guys drink hard when you get together, so I
don't know that that's best for anybody. They serve booze
at UCLA Games, do you know?
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I think they do at the pavilion?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh West, what's a fun spot?
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Man, it is a good spot. Yeah, yeah, we'd take
uber there. It's just the other side of the hill,
if you know in La it's getting there.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Oh gosh, I know right.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, based on how things are going for you elsewhere,
you probably won't need to come up with an excuse.
You'll have a legitimate one by Friday night.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
So that's true. I might have nowhere else to go. Guys,
we were talking Sizza earlier today and I didn't make
the connection that she's coming out with a movie today
along with Keiky Palmer called One of Them Days.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's actually got one hundred percent on Rotten Tomato right now.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Kat Williams is in it, I believe.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Yeah, it's star Studed cast Ray helped produce it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Man, it sounds like some stars.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well you're trying to say you don's.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, who doesn't know? Who doesn't know Easter egg?
Speaker 8 (38:04):
I mean, okay, all right, guys.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Amidst a lot of controversy, State Farm is pulling their
ad for the Super Bowl on Fox, which is you know,
they're charging seven million for thirty second spot.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Why are they in the news recently?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah, I don't know what they're up to lately, but
they said they're going to be focusing on people in need,
and uh, instead of putting out ads for the super Bowl,
they're pulling it.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah, okay, oh yeah, they're gonna have to pay out
a lot of money for them home. That's the translation. Yeah,
you try to make it seem like you're doing something good.
Meanwhile you're gonna have to pay for something. Must be
a lot of people that that got State Farm insurance.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Oh oh, guys, good news for everybody. FDA has removed
red dye three, removing it from all food, including candy corn.
Candy Corner is no longer allowed to use red dye three.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I got news for you. Yeah, they could remove red
dye nineteen. Nobody's eating candy corn exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
So yeah, but they eat them them hot cheetos though.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Oh, is that the stuff in hot cheetos?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Red forty is hot cheetos. That's another dy that is
still nut that they still can use.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
How about just don't eat it.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
That's a good that's a good call.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
How about no dies? How about that damn
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Brady Quinn on the show, you know not. I mean, listen,
I'm not going to excuse the absence the birth of
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a child. That is what is going on. He is
up to eight hundred and three children. This will be
eight hundred and four, and they are currently in the
process of making that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
He did say that he would potentially be calling in
everything goes smooth, and we are we're hoping that it
will because they've been through this a few times. He
did say he would be calling in at some point
if he could. So maybe maybe Brady Quinn will be
discussing the newest arrival to the Quinn household from a
(01:53):
hospital somewhere in Ohio. That could be the case. So,
I don't know what was the what was the biggest
memory for you from uh, you know, uh the birth
of a child? Like do you have a idea? Do
you recall anything? Does mine? Happened during COVID So it
was kind of a weird time.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I mean, I just felt like the best memory was
the fact that everybody was okay, yeah, you know every
single time, like you know, you just you just hope,
you hope for everything to it's like the most the
most like subtle things of Okay, this happened, the baby's coming,
(02:35):
the baby came out, the baby's there, okay, the mom
is okay, there's ten fingers, there's ten toes, like you know,
baby's breathing okay. Like there's no crazy complications or anything
going along with it. Like those are my best memories
because it's like it's like hitting your pinky toe. It
(02:57):
only matters when it happens, you know, I mean, like
it only would have mattered if something was not what
it was supposed to be. It was pretty routine every time,
And that's the most memorable part of it is that,
And the part that I liked the most about it
is that it was it was routine.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you cry it all?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah I didn't either, Like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Even always felt as though I always felt as though
very emotional like accomplishments in life like getting drafted or having.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
A kid, or you know, tying the knot.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Or whatever it may be, that you know, you find
yourself in tears like no, it's not, you know, it's not,
it's no.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I just I never I just thought it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Was I've never cried over things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, like it happened. It was really cool and it's
an amazing moment. You'll never forget it. And I was
just like, uh, all right, breathing, can we get this
show on the road. Let's let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Off that dump that dump that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Get we on the road, get this show on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Oh oh, I thought I heard something different, my bet,
Oh bet, my bet, I thought I heard something totally
different from you. Right, No, No, that was not a
way because oh god, I swear I heard him say,
didn't something different?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, that was My mentality was like, hey,
let's let's let's get rocking and rolling here, all right.
What you got to do? What's next? What happens now?
So yeah, but again that congratulating to uh, to Brady
and and Alicia and who knows it could be having
a conversation with a newborn in the background at some
point here soon. All right, So let's have a conversation
(04:45):
about another quarterback in the NFL who's gotten some heat
all throughout the course of the week. That somebody would
be none other than Justin Herbert of the LA Chargers,
who went into Houston last week as a three point
favorite and proceeded to throw four interceptions. Just not a
great performance by the Chargers as a whole. It felt
like that was a game that they probably could have
(05:07):
had control of early. They couldn't do enough on offense.
Houston stayed alive in the game. There was a missed
interception by Derwin James in the end zone which would
have been a key play in the second half, and
then it was just like a landslide after that pick six,
another interception, nether interception. Just a bad game all the
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way through for the LA Chargers and Justin Herbert. But
Jim Harbaugh, his head coach no surprise here, stuck up
for his quarterback when discussing the situation yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
My responsibility.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
We did not put him in We did him in
disservice and didn't put him in the positions to be
successful enough. But he played like a beast. I mean,
there's nobody And that was your question, how do I
think he played? After watching the tape, you know, I
second that doubled on that statement. There's nobody. There's nobody
(06:03):
in this entire organization who gives more blood, sweat and
tears and contributes more produces more for the entire organization
justin Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So that is Jim Harbust going up for his quarterback,
Justin Herbert. And whether he wants to, I mean he
wants to, you know, believe this or if he wants
to go in this direction or not. There is a
narrative that is slowly being built with Justin Herbert. That
narrative is, well, he can get you to the postseason,
but what can he do afterwards? Saving with the Lamar Jackson.
(06:37):
It doesn't mean it's always fair and it's always right,
but that is a reality because that was awful this
past week. It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I just wonder why he's not falling under as much
heat as as a Lamar Jackson or a Trevor Lawrence.
Why is it he being talked about in that manner?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
What do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Right? At some point?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't know, Like I can get your head coach
defending you and speaking highly of you.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He was not a beast in that game.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's like, let's be clear, he was pedestrian in that game.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like that's cool that you like hyping in.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
We could go back to the elevator story and clearly
know that you have an affinity, a healthy affinity for
your quarterback. Nobody has a problem with you having a
healthy affinity. But what you got to be careful of
is when you're sitting there and you're hyping someone up
and it cost you your own credibility in the end.
And so to me, I'm just curious, like Justin Herbert
(07:39):
has not delivered anything out of the ordinary since being
the quarterback of the Los Angeles Chargers, So why isn't
he falling under fearce, scrutiny and criticism for sitting.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
At home right now? Why is that? Like?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
What has is what has transpired that has kind of
kept Justin Herbert from the cross hears of being criticized
for not delivering more in the postseason. I think this
was right about the time where, like Trevor Lawrence makes
it to the postseason, everybody's like, Okay, he's showing the
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potential to possibly transition into being more than just a
quarterback that came in with high promise as a draft pick,
and and that that ship almost seems.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
To have sailed.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Like, I don't know that anybody knows how to really
kind of address or talk about.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Where we're at with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Why are we not having the same conversation about Justin Herbert?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, you know, why are we not? I mean,
are you noticing a theme between those two?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Is that what one's black? Ones white? What's the problem?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
What we got here? What's the problem here?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean, look, I mean, if we want to have
like the Trevor Lawrence conversation is interesting, here's but here's that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Would have been the easy play. That would have been
the easy play. But we don't have that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
These are two of the most good looking as white
boys that you're going to get, ye play the position,
the very tall, long flowing hair, good looking dudes. So
you have put it on anything. We can't make it
about race. We can't make it one is uglier than
the other.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
We're kind of carbon cop.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can we run with this on our on the f
SR Twitter account, just to have one of us quoted
as saying, man, this conversation would be so much more
interesting if Trevor Lawrence was black, Like, this would be
one of those like we can because.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
It would be all because it would be an easier
way of justifying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Right, It would be the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You can't you can't.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I can't figure this one out. Though this one is confusing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, I mean, here's what's not confusing. Trevor Lawrence looks
like the guy and the painting and Ghostbusters too, That's
what's not confusing. And anybody that wants to dispute that,
they can dispute it all they want. But here's the
part about like either discussion, whether it's Trevor Lawrence, whether
it's Justin Herbert, whether it was Lamar Jackson. Anybody that
wants to point to quote unquote playoff failures, that's fine.
(10:21):
That team that has those guys isn't letting them go
because you'd rather be in a position to get to
the postseason and you'll take your chances when you get there.
There's no guarantees that you're going to be able to
win a playoff game or overcome playoff adversity. Dak Prescott
struggled in the postseason at times. Guess what still got paid.
(10:43):
And so anybody that wants to have the discussion about, well,
Trevor Lawrence doesn't deserve this. And Justin Herbert that okay,
But how many quarterbacks are you taking over Justin Herbert
right now? In the NFL, Like, how many other teams
in the NFL wish they had a Justin Herbert as
opposed to their current coquarterback majority of them?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And so so we moved the gold post and qualified
differently outside of having success. No, there's another metric. There's
other metrics. Of course, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, No, what I'm saying other metrics.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
The other metrics is what other quarterback would you rather
have than Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What what I'm saying is, if we're only going to
decide whether or not somebody's a success in the NFL
based on playoff success, then you're going to cant be
canceling out a lot of careers in the NFL of
people who came up short in the postseason but were
damn good players in the regular season. And I just
I think I think we base a lot of this
(11:39):
on well they It's like the Chargers as a whole
didn't play great. His oh line didn't. Like there's a
lot of factors that go into like people not playing well.
Like there's a lot like there's other things that happen,
like Lamar Jackson, Like did anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Think quarterbacks and hey, coaches, they get the blame quarterback,
and hey, coaches done, whatever it is you want to
call it. You know what, those same elements exist for
Patrick Mahomes, and yet he still finds a way to
be a part of or being the catalyst of why
(12:12):
the Kansas City Chiefs win. Like done, and they should
all be measured and weighed the same way. You know,
some of them teams have more weapons than what Patrick
Mahomes has, and yet this team continues to still find
ways to win games. They're pushing for their third championship.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, but he's the exception to a rule. Like I mean,
it's like Tom.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Brian, this is the pros. This is the pros. It's
the pros. So while he is the exception to the rule,
you are still based measured and weighed off of being
that exception to the rule. If you're not that exception
to the rule, you're just another guy. You're just another guy.
Because ultimately, what are you trying to do if you're
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a team in the National Football League?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Jonas, what you trying to do?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You trying to win games?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, you're not trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Not everybody's trying to win the super Bowl, but just
trying to win the game.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, then then thirty one teams fail every year and
should be held account well that failure.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Only the guys who show the promise of taking your
team to that big game, only the guys who win
that big game, should be void of the criticisms and
should be void of all of the things that are
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said about them in terms of if they can do
it or or how we should be viewing.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Them as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Only the guys who show the potential to take their
teams to those places should not fall victim to those
types of like really really very critical, very very aggressive
approaches to what are you as a quarterback to this team?
And I think Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert should fall in
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that category.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
He should be under criticism.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So you don't think he should be called a beast
until he proved No, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
No little beast. Damn, you're a little beast. You ain't
a beast beast, You're a little beast. You're Jimmy's beast.
You're Jimmy Horrorball's beast. But I'm just like, seriously, seriously, though,
you can't sit there and tell me that if you're
not taking like Lamar Jackson. Okay, you could say Lamar
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Jackson hasn't gotten it done in the playoffs, but at
the end of the day, I don't think there's anybody
yet that would say my criticism should be I don't
know that Lamar Jackson can take us to a super Bowl,
because that would be inaccurate and it would sound uninformed
and uneducated. Sure, he doesn't have a great record in
the playoffs, but everything about what he does says that
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he has the potential to take his team to the
to the super Bowl. Agreed, same thing with Josh Allen,
Same thing with Jalen Hurts. Agreed same thing with pretty
much most all the elite quarterbacks, franchise quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The only ones you don't say that about are the
ones that can't do it. They can't do it. So
if you look at like you said, most of these teams, sure,
most of these teams, Jared Goff, I think we say he.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Could take his team to the to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Done it.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
All the teams that are left in the playoffs right now,
I think you would say that their quarterback can take
and Jaydon Daniels is only a rookie, and we still
had the idea that you know what, I don't think
it's a foregone conclusion that that Detroit's just going to
run away with winning the game against against Washington.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean, the Commanders and the Texans are just because
they need another team to play like, I mean, they're
really I mean, nobody really considers that one of the final.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Are you telling me that the Texans don't have a
chance with CJ. Stroud as their quarterbacks try to make
it to the Super Bowl? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
As the in laws would say, Settle, settle chance that they're.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Winning like zero zero? Hey, zero, Settle. They got a chance.
They got a chance because they got a quarterback that
you could talk about in regards to possibly carrying their
team deeper into the playoffs. Now, if they continue to lose,
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now that becomes the narrative.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Now the criticisms are warranted.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
If Lemar Jackson doesn't get to the super Bowl this year,
stop giving him MVP. Stop saying he's like, oh, this
is the best player in your league. He's not good
enough to deliver the goods when the goods are needed.
You got to start having those conversations. And if you're
going to have that about the best player, in the league,
the most talented gifted player athletically in the league.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That was MVPs.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
That everybody else should fall victim to being open to
those criticisms as well.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
There's a better chance of the Washington Bullets winning the
Super Bowl and the Commanders think about that?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What about this week?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What about say, Mark? They winning? Yeah, that's happening. It
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Coming up next here from the tiraq dot com studios,
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of these rumors that are out there about coaches going
this place and that place, and who's involved and who's talking.
We'll get into that next for you here from our
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:17):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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That will be yours here on FSR. But right now
it is a Thursday tradition. It is Albert Breer, the
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He is a senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at
the MmpB. You can get him on x at Albert
Breer AB. Good morning, How are we feeling?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I see Brady's ducking me huh.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh geez swiping early. He's they're expecting us are looking
pretty good.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I wish if we just tay congratulations to Brady. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
So uh he's well thanks, that's very kind of that's
very nice for you to be looking the say congratulations
to him like.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
You know, the last time for the last time week. Yeah,
that's the last time this week.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Can I support LeVar in this moment, like just like okay,
all about that was.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
A tough one, LeVar, that was a tough one. I
will say that. I mean, you guys have I mean,
like I felt the total we played. You guys have
some athletes like I I don't know, like it was
it would be hard for me to watch that if
I was TENN State and not feel one's hard. Yeah,
that combination of like Abuel Carter and Tyler Warren and
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Nick Singleton Allen and like it's just you sort of
look at and it's like, was this the team? You
know what I mean? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, you know, all those guys, Well, some of those
guys are coming back next year at least, you know, yeah,
they chose to come back, so we should be good
to give you know.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah, well maybe maybe it'll be like a slat like
this year right where we we got everybody back for
an extra year. So anyway, I'm trying to help. I'm
trying to help with oar out there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, thank you for the support. I appreciate that. Abe.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I got to ask you, how real is the Ben
Johnson to the Raiders smoke that's out there.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I think relatively real, Like you know, I Tom Brady
is a factor in this, and you know, like I
I think at the beginning of it, Ben wasn't even
gonna take an interview with them, you know. And yeah,
and I think I said to you guys, would be
a little bit more selective. So, you know, the three
interviews that he had chosen to take more New England,
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which I think he sort of viewed that as a
warm up, and he liked the New England job, but
I think most people felt like it was probably going
to very ball along.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Then yeah, Jacksonville and Chicago and and you know, Brady
I was was was really able to sell his people
on the idea of of of what the Raiders could
be and what the Raiders we're gonna do to change
what they've been over the last couple of decades, and
that this wouldn't be the same old Raiders, and you know,
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it's it's not just Tom like which you know, I
think he's a piece of it, you know, and he's
not going to be there day to day. He lives
in Florida. But you know, I think there was this
sort of like conviction that like there's gonna be we're
gonna get good people there, and you know there's gonna
be there's gonna be financial backing there with you know,
this this, uh, this this private equity CEO Egan Durban
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and some other guys investing in the team now, and
you're gonna have some time to build it out. So
the roster isn't very good now. I don't think you
guys need me to tell you that. And there's gonna
whoever is the coach is going to need some runway,
you know. But I think what the Raiders have to
offer is sort of different than what the other teams
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have to offer, which Jacksonville has Trevor Lawrence, a decent
cor of players, Chicago has Caleb Williams. Some pieces that
build around the Raiders kind of offer you a blank
slate where it's like, Okay, we're going to give you
the chance to build this the way that you see fit,
and we're going to give you this flaying canvas. And
so I think the appeal to the job is a
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little bit different than than than what you're seeing with
the other with the other two. But yeah, I mean,
the interest is real. He wouldn't have taken the interview
unless it was he wasn't going to take an interview
this year with the job that he wouldn't, you know,
legitimately see himself taking, which is one reason why you
don't hear about him with the Jets.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Ab was Mike McCarthy not re upping and still being
the coach of Dallas a surprise to Jerry Jones and
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know, Jonas asked a question, any of these coaches
out here and upgrade to Mike McCarthy. I think that
Dion's Sanders should be a legitimate contender or recipient for
the job, not because you know, the fame and the
splash idea of it. I think he's really a good
coach and I think he might be maybe the final
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frontier in terms of somebody who actually thinks just as
highly of themselves and what they know and what they
bring to the table and would be able to handle
being in an environment such as Jerry Jones and Steven Jones.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, I think LeVar, like the last thing you said
is an important piece of it, which like, not everybody's
cut out to coaching Dallas. You know, it's a different
environment there. It's not the same as the other thirty one,
you know, and the pressure of being in that role
managing the relationship with ownership when ownership so involved in
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the football operation, the structure of it is is just different.
You know, the pressure is just different. And you know,
I think the the upside of all that is the
coach is going to have a major say, you know.
And I think Jerry's coaches would all tell you that that,
like the coach there is not just you know, it's
not just their coach. He's gonna have input in personnel.
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He's gonna input and have input in the way the
team's put together. And so you know, like I I
think understanding kind of the dynamics of the organization are
an important piece of it. I also think, like you know,
for all the flash and everything else, I mean, lavarthink
you degree with the actually an old school coach, right,
like you know what I mean, like he like, I think,
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his principles if you watch, you watch the way he works,
you watch what he the way he handles his team's
very old school, you know. And I think in that way,
it's not unlike like a Saban or a Belichick where
it's like you're going to have a team that is
gonna really be grounded and fundamentals and and it's going
to be tough, you know, and and and and and
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it's going to be looking for a certain type of player.
So I think all that stuff is good, you know,
Like I think the flip side of it is, you
would you are going to need some infrastructure to help
him adjust the coaching at the NFL level from a
scheme standpoint and all of that. So I think, like
you can you can build that stuff out, you know
what I mean, Like you can you can go get
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coaches that are going to be able to help you
in those areas and and help support Dion as he
makes this transition to the NFL. So I I I
don't think it's the craziest idea in the world that
that that he could make it work. It's a risk
it could certainly crash and burn. But I do think,
like beyond all the packaging that we get, like what
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we see with Dion, you know, there is an old
school like like fundamental approach to the way that he
does it. But I think, you know is lost in
some corners of the NFL and probably would work in
Pro football if again, you had the right infrastructure around
him to support him with some of the stuff that
he might need to catch up on in terms of
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in terms of coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Albert Brier is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on ex at Altbert Brier, Abe, who's the
next if you had to guess right now, next vacancy filled?
And who's the guy that gets it?
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I mean, the rules make it really tough to have
to get this stuff done fast, you know. The one
that I the one that I sort of feel good about.
So like I think Mike McCarthy could wind up with
the Saints. I think Ben Johnson if like if certain
things move around, like if they if they could reassign
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Trent Balki, I think he could end up in Jacksonville.
I think Vegas is a possibility for him. I like
Aaron Glenn with the Jets or Saints. Maybe, like if
McCarthy winds up with the Saints, and I think Glenn
winds up with the Jets. Chicago's a wild card to
me because I think Chicago, you know, I think, you know,
if you look at Chicago, could could have be McCarthy,
could have be Glenn.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I think you have like the small you know, circle
of the small group of coaches that I think are
going to sort of have a couple of teams, like
really looking hard at them. So Chicago's the one that's
I think a little bit harder to peg right now.
And I'm not quite sure what direction they go in,
but I will give. I will give like the team's credit.
Like it does seem like most of these teams are
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going into this with a pretty open mind. And I
think that's a good thing to see, you know, because
when you go in with an open mind, it gives
you a chance to go and have like real conversations
with people, and it's gonna make your organization better. Having
talked to other teams about the way they do business,
you know, guys from other teams, about the way that
they do business, it's going to give whoever your choice
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for the net for your next coach is the best
chance to succeed. So so yeah, I mean I think
I look, i'd say the next one to be filled,
that'd be kind of tough to peg, you know, got
into my head. Maybe I'd take one to the jests.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
We were just talking last segment about Justin Herbert. Jonas
seems to think that Justin Herbert should be left alone
and looked at glowingly the same exact way Jim Harball
looks at him. I say he should be under the
same type of scrutiny and criticism as as Trevor Lawrence
and Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Why is it that it seems like.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Trevor or Justin Justin Herbert is seemingly immune to like
really really I won't say harsh, but definitely should be
a little bit more intense scrutiny and criticism on what
he can possibly get done as a quarterback in the
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Well, I think part of it is like the market
he's in, right, I mean, like if he was in
a market in the northeast, or he was the quarterback
of the Bears of the Cowboys, don't you guys think
it would be different?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What are you trying to say about la career? Damn man?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, I don't know. I don't know. It's charge of
sheiver like like overtaking lad. I mean, look, I'm just saying, look,
don't you it's different. It's just different. And it's like
I look at it, like you know, like there are
certain places where you know, the quarterback of the football
team is going to be viewed like every every everything
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that he does is going to be watched very very closely,
and every game is going to be treated like a
season onto itself, you know what I mean. Like, and
I don't know that that that Herbert's been under that
sort of microscope, you know, on a week to week
based in Los Angeles. And now that said, I think
he's got I think he's already a really good quarterback,
you know, and I think like Jim Harvard is the
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right coach for him, and I think they're going to
get there. You know. I look at the quarterback across town,
and you know, in Matthew Stafford, he had to ride
out a lot of bumps early in his career and
he wound up getting there. The flip side of it, though,
the flip side of it is the very elite quarterbacks,
right like, look at what those guys go through and
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have made it. Pat made it for the right like
Joe Burrow, I would say, like lifted up that organization
and change the perception of angles, right like, and played behind.
I mean, got to a Super Bowl with a really
shaky offensive line. You look at Lamar Jackson this year,
they lose sixty percent of their offensive line. They don't
miss a beat. Buffalo Josh Allen, they lose Stefan Diggs,
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they lose Mitch Morris this offseason, the defense loses a
lot of its leadership infrastructure. They may be better this
year than they were the year before. Kansas City is
the ultimate example. They trade Tyreek Kill. They went back
to back Super Bowl the two years after they trade
Tyreek Kill. Think about that, right, and then think about
like their tackle issue this year, like what they had
to kind of fight through a tackle and not knowing
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who their left tackle was until the very end of
the year when they move a guard out there to
play that position. Let's they have all the injuries you
know at receiver with Rushie Rice and Hollywood Brown going
down its shifts. I mean, like that's the very elite level,
like where instead of like being kind of clide your circumstances,
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you're fixing every problem your team has. And so is
Herbert on that level. I don't think we can say
he's on that level yet, right because those guys have
done it, and I don't know that he's done it
like they have. But there's no shame in being, you know,
in the next level down, which I think is probably
where he's at right now.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Alber Breer before we let you go. This is a tradition.
I'm looking at DraftKings right now. Ohio State an eight
and a half point favorite. I might have got up
to nine, maybe in nine and a half someplace, but
it's been pretty steady at eight and a half on
DraftKings throughout the course of the bank. Yeah. What do
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you think, Breer, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Who are you guys taking?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's a lot of points, it is, but Notre Dame's
pretty banged up, so I can understand why that would
be the thought. But it is a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think Ohio State is going to destroy him.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I under play on.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Such a high level right now.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It's if they continue, like Texas was going to be
their hardest game.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I I and I watched LeVar, right it sort of
felt like there were points of the tens. I don't
want to rehash anything.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
For you, but I didn't feel like there were We
should have took the game over.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
They could have took the feel like that. It felt
like it felt.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Like we could have ran away with it. Yes, right, right, right?
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And I and I sort of feel like this, like
the Texas game if you look, and I think Texas
was a team that physically was like most of the
Ohio States tire. There were points where Ohio State could
have run away with that, and like they kept the
penalties kept coming, and you had a bad turnover, and
like there were certain things that kind of kept that
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one close. My my, my, my, my, my head says,
they cover my heart says, I don't want to jink
some So I'll give you the point in the interest
of in the interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Do very very good, well played, that is well played.
That'll keep you freaking sorry.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I gotta be my gambling, my gambling language.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Right, I'll take some point.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, well a B. We appreciate it. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB,
the star of and Amazon's NFL on Prime Thursday night
coverage and get him on x at Albert Breer, thanks
so much, enjoying the games this weekend. Good luck to
the buck guys on Monday.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
All right, all right, thanks guys, and all seriousness, all
the best everybody out there in Los Angeles. I hope
you guys, are you guys and your families are doing
good and everybody else too. We're all we're all rooting
for you out there.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, it's been a wild one. So yeah,
we're hopefully hopefully out of the woods at some point here.
Thanks Ab, We'll do it again next week. Guys, the
Great Albert Breer with us year on Fox Sports Radio.
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on FSR. Coming up next, we are going to close
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on FSR.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (34:47):
These might smell a little fun, came what does that?
Sounds incredible, but they're still good. Time to find out
what's left? It's Lee's laugh jovers.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And by the way, can I just give a shout
out to h Veto and Ricky who put the imaging
together for Lee's leftovers? The added detail of opening the
fridge and the bottles and the side side drawer and
the side yeah, just kind of clanging against the walls
of the fridge. Just you know, it's a nice little touch.
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What else we got Lee? Well?
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Also a shout out to one of our listeners who
put out an AI generated image of Brady with his
newborn son.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Have you seen this? It doesn't look anything like Brady.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
It almost got me for a second, was like, Brady
wouldn't put out a picture right his son's.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Dressed in Ohio steak. Hear right? It's the arm Jonas
look at the baby's arm.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
It's like the arms are melding into each other, connected
to Brady's arm.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, that's a really that's a piss poor job of
an Ai.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Yeah, good job Ai.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah that sucked. Guys.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
You know when you make an excuse to like get
out of you know, somebody invites you to something, you're like, sorry, man,
I can't make it this time. You know, next time maybe,
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, var Leabar does it to me every time I
ask him to go anywhere and hang out.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
And then they have the follow up. He's like, oh, well,
you know, the day after that, we could do it again.
And you're like, man, you got to keep coming up
with excuses. Iowa Sam, a day after I turned him
down for Iowa versus USC, he's asking me to go
to Iowa versus.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
U c l A.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
When's that game Friday night? So I haven't given him
an excuse.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Yet, but to give him an excuse, I don't want
to because I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't want to go, you don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I will, but charm, but charm.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I have to be there for Iowa because my spy,
my own spice.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean like and plus the last time you
and Sam hung out, things got a little creepy and weird,
and you know, he gets lost doing public transportation, and
you guys drink hard when you get together, so I
don't know that that's best for anybody. They serve booze
at UCLA Games, do you know?
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I think they do at the pavilion?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh West, what's a fun spot?
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Man, it is a good spot. Yeah, yeah, we'd take
uber there. It's just the other side of the hill,
if you know in La it's getting there.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Oh gosh, I know right.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, based on how things are going for you elsewhere,
you probably won't need to come up with an excuse.
You'll have a legitimate one by Friday night.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
So that's true. I might have nowhere else to go. Guys,
we were talking Sizza earlier today and I didn't make
the connection that she's coming out with a movie today
along with Keiky Palmer called One of Them Days.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's actually got one hundred percent on Rotten Tomato right now.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Kat Williams is in it, I believe.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Yeah, it's star Studed cast Ray helped produce it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Man, it sounds like some stars.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well you're trying to say you don's.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, who doesn't know? Who doesn't know Easter egg?
Speaker 8 (38:04):
I mean, okay, all right, guys.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Amidst a lot of controversy, State Farm is pulling their
ad for the Super Bowl on Fox, which is you know,
they're charging seven million for thirty second spot.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Why are they in the news recently?
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah, I don't know what they're up to lately, but
they said they're going to be focusing on people in need,
and uh, instead of putting out ads for the super Bowl,
they're pulling it.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah, okay, oh yeah, they're gonna have to pay out
a lot of money for them home. That's the translation. Yeah,
you try to make it seem like you're doing something good.
Meanwhile you're gonna have to pay for something. Must be
a lot of people that that got State Farm insurance.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Oh oh, guys, good news for everybody. FDA has removed
red dye three, removing it from all food, including candy corn.
Candy Corner is no longer allowed to use red dye three.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I got news for you. Yeah, they could remove red
dye nineteen. Nobody's eating candy corn exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
So yeah, but they eat them them hot cheetos though.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Oh, is that the stuff in hot cheetos?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Red forty is hot cheetos. That's another dy that is
still nut that they still can use.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
How about just don't eat it.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
That's a good that's a good call.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
How about no dies? How about that damn
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