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So there is a fair question to be asked, what
are the Cowboys going to do? What are the Raiders
going to do? What's the plan because it's getting kind
of late in the game here, and everybody else has
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kind of gobbled up the quote unquote top candidates. Brian
Schottenheimer was the leader. We heard Kellen Moore. It was
just last week Dion Sanders was like the favorite, the
betting favorite to get the Cowboys gig And meanwhile, other
teams in your division are playing for the chance to
go to a Super Bowl. So what's the how do
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we think this is going to go with the Dallas
Cowboys here just gonna go?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, it feels like because they because well, which first off,
Brian Schotenheimer's never been a head coach before, and for
all the things that Albert Brier talked about yesterday with us,
you know, he's familiar, he's been a part of the offense.
I think that's one of the reasons why Kellen Moore
was an intriguing candidate for them, is they want someone
that they're familiar with, that's familiar with how they operate
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and the personnel and the team, and obviously an offensive
mine because they feel like, you know, maybe the defense
is fine. You know, they look at that side of
the ball and they're like, we feel comfortable with our
personnel here. But this is about Dak Prescott, either Kellen
Moore Brian Schottenheimer getting the most out of him with
the contract that they've got him under and given again,
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how they kind of address the running back position or
lack thereof. It's very apparent and even the money they
have wrapped up in Ceede Lamb, they want this offense
to go through Dak, to go through the air, and
that's where their money's being spent, and so their money
is going to continue to be spent on a coach
that's going to help drive that.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
So that's where we're at.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
And I think this is large and large part comes
out because they don't have a plan or they didn't
have a plan with how things ended with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
What's really interesting about it is.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You know, Mike McCarthy didn't do a bad job necessarily
in Dallas. I mean, he gets there and he essentially
makes this team for the most part. I mean, I
guess you look at this past season, you say it
was it's kind of tough to evaluate because you're playing
with the backup for the majority of the year. But
when Dak was healthy, this team was a twelve win team.
This team was a playoff team. Now it ended in
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disastrous ways, but they still were I would say, a
level up from what they were previously under Jason Garrett.
So you got to give Mike McCarthy a little credit.
What's interesting about him as part of this converse is
he might be out again. I mean, you look at
his career record. He's when a super boys got a
good winning percentage. But again, Mike McCarthy might be on
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the outside looking into having any head coaching.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Job, and yet it's not.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I mean, I guess he technically didn't get fired even
though they didn't sign him back. It just and the
whole thing seems really odd the way it's worked out,
specifically for the Dallas Cowboys this offseason.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I just look at both situations and I I to me,
I feel as though it's already wrong to even be right.
That's that's like my conclusion on looking at it.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
It's like as your last bait, Well, because.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You don't you don't have like what is what was
your strategy and and what why would you allow if
you were playing it on Mike McCarthy being back as
the head coach, as some people have reported, then why
didn't you make sure that that business was handled before
his contract ran out? That's one. And if you weren't
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going to renew him and you were going to allow
his contract to run out the way that you did
and you didn't re up them, then why wouldn't you
have the coach and waiting lined up, do your interviews,
fulfill your obligations on the rules that go into your interviews,
and then hire your coach. Secondly, in Las Vegas, if
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you're going to fire a coach, if you're going to
fire the coach, and all reports given are saying it's
leading towards the influence of Tom Brady getting this coach
over here to come coach for your team, and then
that same coach goes to a different team and you
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fired your coach, who, by the way, no coach in
the league in the world would have won with that team.
You fire him after one season and you don't have
a replacement to the replacement, You didn't have a second
option lined up outside of Ben Johnson, where you can
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make a really really strong move and decision and show
that you're now arrival and participation with this organization is
going to lead to less confusion, more stability, stronger decisions
being made, a stronger culture being developed. You think this
is the right move and sending that type of a message,
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I don't think so. So. I think for both teams
Dallas and Las Vegas, it's a loss before you even
get an opportunity to get a win. Now they get
a win out of it. Good for them. They pulled
something off that probably looks very unlikely. But looking at
the rosters of both of these teams, I don't see
there being a win in terms of whoever it is
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that you bring in to lead these teams.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
The other one is the Saints. I know that these
storms of who pushed back dam Really here's here's what
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Wait a second, Wait a second, I honestly just forgot
that Toby was still open.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Well, and here's why this, I swear, yeah, like and
I'm and I was looking at it going, okay, I
know that McCarthy's been kicked around. Robert Sala had an
interview there, but these interviews have been pushed back because
of the snow storms that they got there. Did you
fire Dennis Allen on November fourth, Like, you mean to
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tell me since then they haven't like done any like
digging or had anybody like kind of pinned down. This
is what we're looking for, That's what we're looking for.
That like they've gotten a head start over all this.
I just assumed because of the momentum and the enthusiasm,
he maybe Darren Rizzi will get an opportunity. But now he's,
you know, looking at these our special teams jobs in
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Denver and potentially Chicago, like the Aints, you're just kind
of floating out there in no man's land, and it's like,
what were you just waiting until everybody arrived for Super
Bowl Week to then announce who you're hire was? Because
we can't be in the game, at least can we
get some headlines while the game's being played in our hometown.
That's That's another one that I just I don't understand
what the delay is, just taking a long time. Maybe
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Mike McCarthy, he's got some ties there.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Here's the thing is, can you dig in deeper? You
did call this team not the most irrelevant, the most
How do you describe the Saints?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I had the Titans as the team that's kind of
the most irrelevant as far as Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
But the Saints were the running for you, we talked
about this.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, it just kind of it's they It feels like
they should be so much better than they actually are.
And it feels like we've had that same conversation at
least a couple of years now. When Derek Carr got there,
the thought was, hey, maybe and they're not even close.
And now there's there's talks maybe Derek Carr could be
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traded to the Giants, Like that's out there, so can we.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Be real about it?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Though? Too, they went through three years straight years of
being seven to nine with Sean pay and Andrew Brees. Like
there were years where the Saints it was like that
then even with you know, a future Hall of Famer
it probably as you know, a coach as well as
the quarterback. And yet there was years of just like
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what is this team? And I feel like that's the
hard thing right now is they've had their runs, They've
had their moments. Probably you know, looking at that twenty
eighteen season when they lost in the conference championship, that
was like the moment they got stolen from them by
the Rams. And bad officiating, but that was like the
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high point. I mean, you have to go back to
the Super Bowl back in what two thousand and nine? Yeah,
and then since then it's like, yeah, there's been some
great season, but there's been a lot of just all right,
you kind of a whole hum year.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So again, I apologize. I know the weather's.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Delayed some of the interviews, but I completely forgot added
them to the list.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You could do. Was there a snowstorm in November fifth,
Like you couldn't like get like kick the tires on
anybody and be like, hey, you know, like Belichick was available.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
He's still he's still Avaia.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh you guys are so infatuated with Belichick. Damn get
a different coach.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Damn. Okay, pick any other coach you want to throw
their name out there. Who are they even interviewing?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Damn? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I told like, that's the one thing I'd say is
even for the Raiders, you know, we heard about spy tech,
but like, who else outside of Pete Carroll. There's's a
report on that, and maybe that's who they got their
eyes set on. But I mean there's talk of Robert Sala,
Who's you know, he's going to sign back with the
forty nine ers as a defensive coordinator, but with jobs
still open.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He's interviewed with the Jags, interview with the Raiders. Even
though it doesn't seem like they're going that.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Direction, it looks or sounds as if there's maybe still
some interest or hope in his mind. But you gotta
look at this too. Salo was twenty and thirty six
with the Jets, and at times it seemed like, you know,
the high watermark was seven to ten, but at times
it seemed like it was a bit of a dumpster fire.
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And you're a team that's selling that. I mean, boy,
you brought up retreads, like how are you selling that
as an organization?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And he was if what I had seen is that
if they didn't get it done with Liam Cohen, that
Robert Salo was like really gonna have an opportunity there
in Jacksonville as the head coach.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So, like I said, he would have been able to
come out with gold paint, would him being zer ses
and being in character would have been in full like
full swing.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well that's in Jacksonville, New Orleans. He did interview too,
but I guess I don't know if he was taken,
but even if.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
He went to New Orleans, either way, he could come
out and it might even be even more so, like
he could go hit Bourbon Street, French Quarter, all kinds
of places he'd be accepted walking around. He could even
do one of those deals where you put the tip
the tip yard down and you like you stand there
like you're a statue.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, he could do it.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's a good move. He could do it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You guys get people money when they throw that.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Multi faceted, multi purposed.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
If people, if people are playing it, if people are
playing an instrument at a supermarket, parking lot there, holidays, Yeah,
I always giving money because at least they're doing something.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You're a tipper. I saw that last night. I just
tell him I don't carry cash. Trump being a tipper,
Oh wow, I'm not a tipper. You're a tipper.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
You should be.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
You know why he's a tipper because I'm a tipper.
Because you've worked some of those jobs. You've got like
a strong appreciation for what that person's doing.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
That's right. Struggle when you when you're.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
A bus boy, when you're work in a restaurant like
a valet, you talking understand.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I mean, Jonas is tip money is way too It's
just it repulsed me.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I just discussed too much or too little.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Too much? Did he just give you a tip? You
get the hell away from this. That lady was like,
oh my gosh, sweetheart, thank you so much. I'm looking
at my dude. He gave me my drink. We get
our drinks at the same time. He tipped. I didn't tip.
I looked at him, like, keep working hard, sir, you
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want to tip. Keep working your ass off. One day
you'll be standing on this side of the bar. Damn.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
By the way, if you would have said that, I
would have run away.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's your tip, mother, lover.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
If you would have said that, I would run away.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Ali, You're a cheap ass. Do you tip?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
We were just talking about this.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yes, I do tip on probably more than I should
for my income, because I'm gonna say.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Probably a lot of people talking about your income, it's
about how much you're spending and how much they're doing
for you at the moment.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Well, I'm which I'm a twenty to twenty five percent
tipper right on routine.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I guess the difference is though you do end up
I'm a big tipper when I go to a place
and I sit down, Like that lady last night at
the hotel bar, she did not get a good tip
at all.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I gave her a below standard rate.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Well, we kind of we had to bust her on table.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
We had to bust her on the table. Then the
bartender who's over overflowed a man too. He comes over.
He don't even speak good English. I don't even know
what he had going on. He's like so sorry. I'm like,
hey man, thanks for coming. Finally, like we were standing
there literally for like twenty minutes, people just walking back.
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The chick that that was serving us just walking back
like you don't see this table. And then the one lady.
I'm like, I'm just like, hey, right, come through the stable,
and I guess that's where people consider me to be hostile.
I get tired of stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I mean, the only eyes that we got at that
point when we walked in were from the two gals
that were working, you know, And there were two gals
all right.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
They were a couple of captain captain hooks out.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
They were vampires too, yeah, they were. They were looking
they weren't lookers.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
What's the market price?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Say they were looking? They weren't lookers.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well whatever they were charging it for that one.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Leeds told me that Jonas sometimes just go around and
ask how much, you know, just to get an idea,
told me.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I mean asking for a friend.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Nothing that He's like, what does it look like? You
know in Houston versus l A? You know?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, what do we have inflation hitting you guys?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And then we have the conversation and then usually it
ends there.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But but you know, speaking of the Saints, Drew Brees
want Drew Brees once got caught up because they exposed
him for being a cheap tipper because he did to
go food and when he went and picked up the food,
he gave him like a less of a tip because
he wasn't dining in, he was taking it to go,
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And they took me.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Does that warrant? Hold on? Does that warrant a normal tip?
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Can I can I speak in on this?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Jonas?
Speaker 9 (17:28):
He worked in a restaurant. Granted it was Chuffie Cheese.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
But screw you, Larta. I worked at TGS Friday.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Terrace.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Okay, I've worked in restaurants too.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Let's call it specialists. Okay, so let's call them to
go specialists. Not only do they take your order, they
put it in, they bag it up, they make sure
it's all there for you with your sauces. So although
they're not bringing you fresh drinks and making sure that
your visit's good, they make sure that when you leave,
you don't have to come back. So I think it's
still warrants a tip.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, that's what that's what we're saying that he did morena.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
At least he.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Didn't tip, and it was between fifteen to twenty percent.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It just was that's that's not right. That's not right.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And they thought because he's a celebrity and he's rich
and all that, that he should have tipped there.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
Oh yeah, see that's not right.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
It was probably a huge order and they it was
probably a huge tip either way.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Well, that's the thing I don't understand is like, so
when Elon Muscos gets takeout, like, is everyone expecting him
just to throw them a thousand dollars because he's Elon.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Musk, Thank you many, Like.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
That's it's disrespectful to him then for what he's done.
Speaker 10 (18:35):
I had a guy to be a thousand dollars to
take a shot at tequila with him.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
We don't have to out in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I tell you what, Lorena, some of your stories, man,
I just you know, I just I gotta I gotta wonder,
like a thousand dollars tip to take a shot with somebody.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Yeah, And I had to check with my manager to
make sure it was okay, but he said, if that's
what he wants to do, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
And it was the expensive tequila. It was the good
one nineteen forty two.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
It was it was a very.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
What was the point the thousand dollars tip? And to
take the shot? Like, what what was the point?
Speaker 9 (19:19):
That is a great question.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Lee, How much is a shot of Don Julio in
nineteen forty two?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
It depends where you're going, man, it depends where you're
coming from, because some people will be.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
What's the one of the white bottle? It's even more?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What was it called casagos?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It's way more?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Which one was that likelue paint on them?
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Yeah, it's the one that's all really fancy you ding
it on topic thing?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, I got the ring to do it. I'd be
dinging the hell out of that top of that tequila.
What's it called?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
It's class Yeah, thank you, yeah, thank you Brady.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
How much is a shot of that?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It's not cheap, man, it's expensive.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
It's like two hundred dollars a bottle while out of
a liquor store. So he gave you, So he bought
you what like one hundred dollars shot, a thousand dollars shot,
and then gave her what is the ultimate? Like, what
was his conversation with you leading up to that thousand dollars?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
I was just his server.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
We're at a table with his wife and I'm assuming
his brother and his wife, and he.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Was like, come on, take a shot with us. I
was like, I can't do it. No, I can't drink
on the job.
Speaker 10 (20:23):
He's like, I'll give you one thousand dollars if you
take a shot with us, Like that's.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
What it was. And then I ended up taking three
with them, and then I was absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Too tipsy, taking threes company to.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Five company coming, we've been waiting for you, we've been
waiting for you. Here's a shot for you, and maybe two.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Are some veterans there? All? Right? So you ended up
taking three? Did they pay one thousand dollars more again,
like three thousand dollars for the shots.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Just knew I was done working for the night, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You weren't done working for it. Well, if you aren't
done working, buying you a thousand dollars shot, I don't
cost a thousand dollars.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
The worst part people want tip out.
Speaker 10 (21:15):
I'm like, you still get your five percent bro wip?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh yeah, so you don't share.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It with everyone?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
No, that's my tip.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So so here we go, So hold on, hold on you.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yeah, you're sitting here and making it getting on everyone
else for how they're tipping.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
But you're not sharing your tips like you're supposed to.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
I did my proper tip out for what my sales
were that night. Okay, yeah, I did my proper tip out.
Whatever I get true colors.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Just showed out your true colors.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Just true.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
And by the way, by the way, did you guys
see what was happening there? Lee's now defending her to
try and you know, butter out Lee.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
She's not sharing a thousand dollars tip with you.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Can I have a number three? Just up a different spotter.
You know you'd be happy. Just get a shot. That's
for certain. Damn I think friendship with Loreno or getting
a shot because I'm gonna take a shot shot all day,
all right. He sorry for you, but I'm gonna take
I'll take the drink today, gladly. Uh.
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Speaker 5 (22:58):
In the control room.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
I said, I said, it's getting hot in the air.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
They still have a fixed at ac No.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
The fact that you're using and talking about air conditioning
when everyone else in the country is dealing with a
polar vortex. I mean, it's snowing afoot in New Orleans.
There's snow on the ground in destined, Florida. It's incredible
that you have the audacity to complain about not having
an air.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Conditioning, right.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, it is really inconsiderate.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Some people are having fun with it, though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
I see snowball fights?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh yeah, they got dumped. I'm I mean, how do
you find fun in the heat of no ac.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
On the beach.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Where there's no a c I mean, oh no, nobody
has any cold beverage.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Still trying to figure out where that bat died at
because they can smell at the times there in the building.
But it is two pros and a couple of the
sports radio. If you see a bat, there's there's an burner.
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Speaker 4 (25:05):
So uh let me ask you guys a question here
because you're strapped up, strapped up, and no doubt you
were strapped up Monday night watching the National Championship game.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was you.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Know what, I wasn't thinking about what you're watching? Notre
Dame in Ohio State. How many other people were watching?
Oh you weren't thinking that? No, And so I was curious, Well,
when the ratings come out and they go, well, it's
you know, it's down twelve percent from last year's championship
between Michigan and Washington, Like now, you know, I know
that there is some concern and people like, oh, that's it.
(25:36):
That's a bad look for is it Notre Dame? Is
it Ohio State? Like I just at times I'm like, man,
I don't okay, you're not watching. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I got a better game last year Michigan and Washington
versus Notre Dame in in Ohio state, it's probably kind
of the same. No, I don't think so. No, I
don't think it's close.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Here's what I'm saying is I think generally speaking, like
forget just college football playoff, the divisional round struggle for
the NFL, they were down about nine ten percent or
the wildcard round was down like nine percent. And I
think that you know that even the divisional round was down,
like they were both down around somewhere close to ten
percent or ten percent wildcard divisional round. So this is
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not just exclusive to the college football playoff. I think
it's in general. I mean, I'm more asking the question
because you know, someone had asked me like, hey, there's
not as much a buzz about the National Championship. I'm saying, well,
I'm not the right person to ask, because you know,
I live in Columbus. There's a lot of Ohio State
fans who are like super excited about it. I'm a
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Notre Dame alum, so everyone I know that went to
Notre Dame is super excited about it. I was in
Atlanta for about twenty four hours. Everyone down there was
super excited, So you never really know how it's going
to play out on air. But you know, look, you've
got a holiday, you've got the inauguration. All those things
end up playing a factor into probably people not watching
(27:04):
or paying as much attention. And they peaked at like
twenty six million people. But in general, I just think
the way the season keeps getting prolonged, people are gonna
have to understand that you're not going to have as
strong a viewership. Like the more of anything, right, the
less scarce something is, the less I'm motivated to go watch.
(27:25):
You have eighty two games in the NBA if I
missed one, so what, it's not the end of the world.
Same thing for hockey, definitely, same thing for baseball. I mean, hell,
it's hard to pay attention much to baseball, and so
they really get into the end of the season and
we figure out where we're at the penot race.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I mean, that's just the reality of it.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
So unfortunately for the NFL and even college football as
we see it expanded playoff in college what we're going
to be is eighteen games in the regular season. Maybe
they added eighth team right to the playoffs at some
point instead of seven on each side. You know, all
those things to me amount to more, which I know
it's about money, it's about TV ratings, trying to bring
up you know, the licensing or the media rites deal.
(28:06):
But in doing that, you're gonna find people are disinterested.
You're gonna find more blowouts where people aren't gonna tune
in as long. I mean, am I crazy for just
kind of saying like that's the day and age we're
at in regards to sports and TV viewership?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Can I ask a silly question? Could it possibly be?
Like how are ratings measured? Are they still measured the
old Are they still measured the old fashioned way?
Speaker 6 (28:34):
So Nilsen has evolved over time and they have different
metrics for measuring you know, cable broadcast versus streaming. Okay,
so those are kind of two different conversations, which.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Are they we're cool to streaming streaming numbers into the
total viewership that they're putting out there.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
So they view it differently because of the way they
go about measuring them. And I can dive deeper into it,
although it's kind of boring, but the reality is there's
been adjustments in For example, they used to not be
able to rate like hotels and bars, which now that's changed,
so they've been able to kind of hone in more
(29:16):
on how they go about rating, you know, games with
with really a greater idea of what the total viewership
is when they didn't use to have the ability to
do that before. So that's changed now for cable and broadcast,
for streaming kind of similar, but again the metrics are
different in regards to how they go about looking at
like how long someone's you know, viewing and what that
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equates to see.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think I think the reason why ratings aren't high
like people would assume they would be is because there's
so many different ways to consume content now. I don't
think that is that it's less interesting. I just think
that it's less centralized. Like, for instance, I recall there's
(30:00):
not one time I watched a major sporting event when
I was growing up and we weren't all in the
same room watching it. Yeah, all my siblings, my mom,
my dad, my mom didn't even like sports, but we
were all there watching it, and it was in one
centralized place. This was the TV to watch it on,
This is where we watch it. And I think that's
(30:20):
like a lot of historically how people view view sports
was you know you're getting you huddle around the radio,
or you huddle around the TV, you watch it. I
just think everybody, like young kids, they don't even watch TVs.
They they consume on their phones. So if they're watching
that game, they're going they're treating that game just like
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they're treating a post on social media. They go back
and forth to the game like it's a social media post.
Adults are probably watching it on TV. The adults, the
older generation of people. Those are the people that you're
getting ratings off of because they still are resistant to
doing things in a new way, and so you get
your ratings. But to me, I feel like you have
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so many different people going in so many different directions.
If you're in a household anymore, and everybody has their
mobile devices and everybody's looking at something totally different, and
at one point in time, y'all might all have it
on the game at the same time. You might not
never it might not ever happen. But I just think
trying to capture what ratings represent now with all of
(31:26):
the technology advances, I just think that it's not I
don't think that it's fair to say that people aren't interested.
I think people were truly interested. People who are into
football were truly interested in what was going to take
place with the national championship. I think they were. I
don't think that's gone anywhere. I just think people's level
(31:49):
of interest that may have not like a sister growing
up in my time was watching the game with us,
whether she wanted to or not. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And I also think that we've got to change how
people are catching the game. They may not sit through
and watch an entirety of a game, but are we
counting how many times clips have been viewed, highlights have
been viewed. People watch stuff in short bursts on social
media like all like, So when I see the numbers
come out, I don't look at that and go, oh,
that means college football is a sport is suffering. My
(32:21):
asset is how many people were watching highlights from that
game or saw a clip from that game like it
was a good year for college football. It's not the
end all be all anymore.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
And again I think again you're having two different discussions
because ratings, oftentimes are the reason why they're substantial is
because you're talking about the percentage of population in that
metered market that was viewing. And that's powerful for a
network to go to advertisers and say, if you're trying
to advertise to this demographic which is what watches this sport,
(32:54):
and this is the best place to do it, Like
this is the best place to put a commercial, you know, promotion,
whatever it is. And so that's why that's one side
of the conversation. And so what this is giving us
a window into is again, the longer these leagues create
their seasons, the less viewership you're probably gonna get per game. Now,
(33:14):
that doesn't mean that over the course the season that
you don't get more viewership, right, you're getting more games.
You get a week, you get an eighteenth game. Yeah,
thirty two teams playing, right, sixteen games, So you're getting
in total more viewership, just maybe not as much for
that one individual game. If you look at the playoff,
you get a twelve team playoffs versus fourteen playoffs.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
So you know the package of.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
What was sold that ESPN obviously owns and then subble
it out to tnt IT and totality the ratings are
going to equate to more for advertisers, and so they
should be able to recruit more money from that it's
just not more money for each one of those individual games,
if you catch my drift. But you know, digitally speaking,
you know, look they've got you. Nielsen has a you know,
(33:57):
proprietary way of going about measuring all of that. You know,
they basically they basically take the streaming games, the devices
used to stream them, the content, and the streaming source
and they're able to actually calculate that to have all
those things you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
So the problem now is.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Like for us, when we talk about what ratings are,
it's more than just saying, well, this is how many
tuned in on the cable or broadcast channel to watch.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
It is the impressions. It is you know, all the
different you know, clicks, etc. That we're able to see it,
and exposure is different.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
It's just it's a different business model for those streaming
services to then say, like what their impact is by
having the rights.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
To the NFL or to college football. If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
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though it is time for this.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
These might smell a little fun game.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
What is that? Sounds incredible?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But they're still good.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's Lee's lacks, all right, d lap, what do we got?
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Well, guys, I hope we're all in for a fun
filled weekend. I know Larina and kooperl loop are they're
going out to a Michelin star rust.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
On dinner snitching, snitching.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
What it's not tomorrow, it's tonight.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
It's tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh you feel well?
Speaker 10 (36:08):
We're citron Okay, it's yeah, Santa Monica, where is it?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It is Santamon's left out. I was left his return
in the favor of snitching.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
This really is a leftover.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Hey, hey, is it just you and Coop?
Speaker 9 (36:25):
No, his wife is coming.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
To okay, knock on her door. You've got a common
thing going on right now.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
I'm looking at the menu. Looks very good.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Let's looking at the menu.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Yeah, we've got some monk fish Coop is it?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yes? He is?
Speaker 8 (36:47):
Get some some crusted duck.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
All right?
Speaker 7 (36:55):
The name lobster.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Okay? So Lee going or some going out with Coop
is your leftovers and and talking about what they're going
to be, like possible entrees will be when they go out.
That's that's that's how you're feeling. Well, Yeah, what's the
motivation behind putting coop In and Lorena out there. Well,
hopefully they.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Bring me some leftovers. That's the that's the hope.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Damn, that's the hope. I often get You want to invite, like.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Well, I would have appreciated it, invite. Not sure I
could have made it, but you know, it's it's nice
to be thought of.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Now, if you were invited, would you have gone by
yourself or what you had brought out your workout?
Speaker 7 (37:38):
But I would have brought my significant on other?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, of course, Oh okay, your significant other?
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Okay, all right, good deal to dine l A.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
It's Lorena. Why why do you never bring a date
with you when you do these things? Like why don't
you bring a lit to go? Why don't you flip
the table on these guys? Like why don't did you
bring a date to go with you? On these these things?
Speaker 9 (38:03):
No one deserves to be validated like that, LeVar, She.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Gets hers to go, She's fine, Tank Covin.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I got Lorena in validated waiting for I went in everyone.
I'd heard it all the tape. Yeah, kill the feeling
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