June 6, 2023 • 38 mins
LaVar talks about the anxiety he had before games, a game of chicken between Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow, Colts CB Isaiah Rodgers betting on games and much more on “You In or Out?”
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Speaker 4 (02:47):
You know, yeah, I know about Rogan. You know, Fred's
a good guy. Brogan's heroes, Fred and you got Jeff Schwartz.
I got Fred Rogan. We can we can play this game.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
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Who knows two pros and no Joe. Yeah, maybe that
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Speaker 3 (03:08):
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Speaker 4 (03:31):
Let me ask you a question. Is it stressful for
you to drive a show?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Like?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Not?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Maybe not stressful? Maybe stressful might be too strong. But
do you have like a tabit of anxiety when you're
going to do a show and you're driving it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Never? Never? Ever?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Man, I get it's wiety, bro I fun. I get
anxiety running when I was running this show. Like when
I run up one game, I have zero anxiety, but
when I ran this one, I like felt anxiety.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I don't know. Maybe it's you just don't do it often.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, did you ever get anxiety when you played football?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yes, so you got You ever see my fingers? My
fingers man?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh as you bit them down?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'm a bit yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And my my my, that's like when my nerves, like
my anxiety kicks in, I bite my fingers. I know
it's people are sitting there ooing me right now saying
that's gross. But truth anxiety I get like so and
you don't even realize you're doing it, no, because it's
just it's just the anxiety hits Like I was feeling
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the anxiety Friday and Monday. Man, I just like to
come in like on Friday, Monday through Friday, and even
even on Saturdays, like I have you know, TJ will
run the show every once in a while. I just
like being able to comment off of what's set up,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But when you got to set topics up.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And and guide it and this that and other and
transition it the right way and do the reads. And
I was looking at my reads, I was I had
to I had to read. I was like this Jones.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was like, gusta indo, I just don't mess it up.
Don't mess up to read.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I just for whatever reason radio, I've never gotten nervous.
I've never gotten anxiety. There's never I get excited.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I don't know. I just have never thing when I
when I was when I was doing music, when I
was in the band, I would get like a little
anxiety or nerves and the second we started all gone.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Bro, I'd be still gone to my heart. I'd be
sick to my heart.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Before a game, like they'd be going out to do,
whether I was a captain or not, I'd be like,
please let the offense go first. Please let the offense
go first. Please let the office go first. I ain't
want to go out for really. I think Josh Allen
still throws up before every game.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I just didn't. I just didn't want to go first.
I never wanted to go first.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But once you were out there, it was oh, first hit, yeah,
first place over, yeah, yeah, first play, It's like, all right,
let's rock.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But up until then, it was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
S, what's weird about that is they tell you the
only thing worse than getting your ass whooped is waiting
for it to happen. And you were the one whooping ass.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But you know, when you're looking at dudes that are
like six six six seven three hundred, like first off,
John run In, I had to remind myself. I had
to remind myself of the Trey Johnson's and and the
Trey Thomas's, and the John Runyons and the Larry Allens.
I had to remind myself because I look at these
athletes today.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I told you I was. I went to to a
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Game and I was at the Iowa game with with Q,
and I was like, my god, like what where?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like these people are aliens?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
They're not. They're just not even from here. They're just
not from here. From meeting all that corn bread. I
guess yes, but it's just the wildest to me, it's
the wildest thing to have to comprehend that this is
who you have to deal with for four quarters. Every
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once in a while, every once in a while, the
boogeyman really shows you that they're real, like every once
in a while, like Larry Allen was a real boogeyman,
Like he was real, Like Floesel Adams was a real boogeyman.
He was It was real. And they were on the
same offensive line like it was just they were real.
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I mean, it was just it was just very daunting
before a game to sit there and be thinking I
gotta go up against them, or you see a running
back and you're like, man, there's Edge're in James, like,
there's edge right there. Peyton standing right there talking to
him like f like this is who we got to
deal with today.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Like it just and your nerves be so my nerves
were really really bad. And then once I got in
and made like and not even made a play, just
that first play where I got to put my hand
on them and they got to put their hand on me.
I'll say the one time. It's interesting. It was my
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rookie year. It was my rookie year, and we were
in Dallas and they had talked about how intense the
rivalry was and this, that and the other, and Larry
Allen came downhill on me and hit me and I
couldn't breathe.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Like and I saw the sweat.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
This is when I knew I was in like a
real like this is a real game against a real dude.
The sweat came off of my jersey. The man knocked
the sweat off of my jersey. And I was like ooh,
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And I went back to the huddle and they're like
you good. I was like, god dang, bro, I was like,
but but after I got through to god dang, you
know what happened, I started laughing and and was like,
all right, game on. I gave Larry Allen a few
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I gave some pretty big dudes. I gave them. I
gave them, I gave them all they could handle. But yeah,
I just the anxiety of it all, bro, like just
you had to deal with it, like a lot of emotion.
I was dealing with a lot of emotion on Monday
and Friday night.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, you know, it's weird though. You're such a
chill guy, like you're so relaxed that it surprises me
that you would that you feel anxiety going into stuff.
What about when you had kids? Were you anxious or
nervous when your kids are about to be born?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I was anxious.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I was anxious because you never want you never
want anything to go wrong, and and that's why I
was anxious. Like I wanted to count their fingers and
their toes. I wanted to smell them, like I wanted
to hear them cry, to make sure that they were
you know, everything was okay, because you know, the one thing,
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the one thing that really really has you like antsy
and anticipating, is is she going to be okay?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is the baby going to be okay? Yeah? I didn't
feel any of that. Dang. I just I don't know what.
I don't know what was wrong with me? I mean,
what were you thinking in the moment?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
All right, cool, he's healthy, I mean before.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's hair though, Like you're saying, like in the during
the child birth, like how are you feeling door and
the shout birth.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Whatever, I don't I don't know. They were just there
was no my whole thought was all right, now he's here,
he's breathing, everything's intact, all right, so what's the next step.
And it was just sort of like, uh, there was
not even close to crying, not even there was no
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like no real emotions. It was just kind of whatever,
like let's let's go, let's let's get this done, and
let's let's be good at this. That was That was
my whole thought.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't know, there might be something wrong with me.
I'll say this, there could be something wrong with you.
But at the same time, we all handle things differently. Yeah,
you know, I was always nervous, always nervous. Just even
if I'm like chilling, I'm still always I just always
have anxiety. It's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'd stay having anxiety, but I don't show it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A lot of you talk to, even the guys who
fight all the time, or you know, the guys like
UFC fighters or boxers who fight all the time, it
would be hard hard to find one of them that
says they're not scared before they go out, because and
these are that'll take short notice fights like this guy,
Donald Cowboy Seroni's a UFC fighter. He just retired recently,
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he's going to the Hall of Fame. Never won a championship,
but one of the most loved fighters in the history
of the organization and an MMA because he fought. Everybody
was willing to fight. Everybody's short notice didn't matter, two
days notice, two hours notice. He would show up and
fight and it would be a good fight. Every time
he said he was anxious and nervous every single time,
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and on the way out to the cage almost every
time he would say, I don't want to do this.
I don't want any part of this. The nerves, the
anxiety you talk about that.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I would never go as far as to say I
was scared. I never felt scared, just uneasy, just the anxiety,
like I got to hit this big mother effort, Like
I got to hit him. He's gonna hit me, Like
we're we are about to thump. We're about the thump
of LaVar var var let's go we thumping. Like I'm
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on the inside having an all out conversation with myself.
Can I get him? Is he gonna get me? Is
gonna hurt today? Oh, it's gonna hurt. Look at that
mother effort. It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
He's big as hell. Look at him. He's bigger than
what I thought. God dang, why is he so big?
Like you're looking at these dudes across the way they
coming onto the field, It's like dang. And then every
once in a while, not often, but every once in
a while you see the crowd. Not often though, but
every once in a while. I would see the crowd
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like these big mother efforts out here, We're about to
get this thing in. Look at all these god dang people,
Look at all these people.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You know, is he you mentioned Larry Allen? Yeah, man,
six three three thirty five. Big dude, big dude, right,
but normal can compare to nowadays. Nowadays he would be
viewed as an undersized tackle. But he was viewed as
that then, six three three thirty five. Yeah, he was
viewed as undersize back then, and just a murderer. Ain't
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nobody like him, Ain't nobody like him. There probably will
never be a lineman like Larry Allen that ever plays
the game. And then what he Bentlee, can you look
up with Larry Allen benched, I think it was like
seven hundred pounds. I think he threw out was like
seven hundred pounds at the Pro Bowl or something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Let's go he did it. He did it in the
weight room in Dallas too. Though his largest one, his lot,
his largest amount was in I believe in their facility.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's go live to Larry Allen Spotter lead to Live
for the latest Lee.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I am looking at him benching seven hundred pounds right now,
and I believe at the combine it was two twenty
five forty three times.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh my god, this a lot lot.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man, forty three times.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I mean to comprehend that. I've seen him lift. I've
seen him, dude. I was at that Pro Bowl when
he was lifting.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To twenty five forty three times.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Bruh.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It looked like he was like lifting a kid. Wait,
oh my god, it looked like he was lifting a
kid with And I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Think he had like super short arms, did he? Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Not super short, because like something not super long. Though
he's a little doude. Oh my god, he's kind of
like a little dude. That's hilarious. Two twenty five forty
three times. There's just so much going on in that
man's body. I guess because he was assassinating people.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Bro a Hall of Fame. It's multiple time All pros,
eleven time pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
He was assassinating.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What a great career he had, man, damn, he had
a great career.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Started at the couple level though there was a couple
levem that you you just man, you just didn't want
to deal with him, mane.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, So the great Larry Alan two twenty five forty
three times. How many times could you throw up two
twenty five right now? Um?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, I've been doing sets with two twenty five for ten.
I did four sets of ten, so that's forty.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Imagine multiplying that the one set you did four times times.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, I just don't have the muscle stamina like that.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I don't. I'm not a I'm a sprinter. I don't
have stamina out fatigue.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Larry Allen was a freak show.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
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Speaker 3 (16:37):
Though.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's Lebar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up
next from the tyraq dot Com studios, we are going
to get into what is looking like a little bit
of a game of chicken in the NFL. We've got
a Game of Chicken involving two star players, and it's
yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, with the air coming up later
on this hour. A little over twenty minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of You In
or You Out as we close up shop here on
a Tuesday morning, LaVar Arrington. The LA Chargers had themselves
a charity golf outing yesterday in southern California, and one
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of the big topics of conversation was about Justin Herbert
and this contract extension that they're trying to get done
or they're trying to work on. You've got Brandon Staley
talking about the head coach. They're talking about, well, you know,
these talks are ongoing, and then you've got Justin Herbert saying,
you know, it's kind of outside of my hands, and
you know what we'll get done. What we can get done,
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et cetera, et cetera, just saying, you know, just the
typical stuff at this point in a negotiation. But my
question for you would be this, because Joe Burrows the
other guy that people looking at as the next one
to get a big deal. It as a player who's
in a negotiation to try and get a contract, are
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you trying to be the first one to get your
deal done or are you waiting to see what the
other guy's going to get so that you can top it.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I think you just try to get your deal done.
Honestly speaking, that's just me again. I do this one
thing that maybe not a lot of people do but
they probably should do more of, is worry about themselves
and whatever the market is. While it is advantageous to
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be able to have a comp, you're already working off
of the comp of the guys that got their contracts,
the major contracts in the wave of major contract before
your time came up, so you generally know what the
mark give value is of getting a top contract by
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the time you're going back to the table. So I
don't I don't look at it as let me wait
and see what this guy's going to get. Before I
go to the table to get mine. If it happens
that way, then it happens that way. But I mean,
if you're really breaking it down at its bare minimum,
if you're in multiples and multiples, like you're talking about
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eight figure to nine figure, you know situations, you know
that's that's that's significant.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's significant. And so.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I always say, I subscribe to worry about yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It's funny that you say that because when I remember
when I was we were going in the draft, Cleveland
was trying to get me to do the deal, and
I would have gone number one. I told him I
need quarterback money. And then they went to Courtney. So
I told Courtney, negotiate hard, because I'm not going to
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negotiate with them anymore. Well, Courtney's agent puts in the
contract a clause where it says if any other players
do a deal that's higher than theirs in total or
signing bonus, whichever one it was, then they get to
to renegotiate to make sure that him as the number
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one pick.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It was more it was like a Favorite Nations type deal.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Own I don't know, I have no idea, but that
come to find out that was what was in wow
in the contract, so you know it is what it
is for me for one, think that it's so much
money that's involved, what are you even you know, what
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are you you arguing and fighting about? If it's like
a couple hundred thousand this way, a couple hundred thousand
that way. Now I could see if it's a whole
bunch of millions one way or the other. But if
it's not millions one way or the other, then you know,
you just got to go ahead and rock with it. Man,
You get your done, get your deal done it they're
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ready to do a deal. Do the deal that was
the Favored Nations? Did they Did anybody do that in
the NFL?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So like the Favorite Nations deal is it was something
I know they did. In professional wrestling, there were a
lot of wrestlers who had or there were some wrestlers
in the old WCW where they had it in their
contract if somebody else came into the company and got
more money than them, they would automatically their contract would
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automatically go up higher than that person, or they would
match that person. Rather, so whoever came in if they
were now these second largest contract. They would automatically match
every single person that came in after them, Like that's
negotiating like that, that would be the.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Way to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And I just wonder if you're Justin Herbert or if
you're Joe Burrow, Like Joe Burrow's the face of that franchise.
Joe Burrow's changed the entire landscape of how we look
at the Cincinnati Bengals. Justin Herbert is you know the
next you know Chargers quarterback. We saw Philip Rivers had
a great, great run there. Neither one of these guys
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are going anywhere, but because their quarterbacks are kind of
in this weird spot to where as leaders of the team,
you can't really hold out right, Like it almost feels
like quarterbacks are judged differently if they were to do this.
So you assume something's gonna get done. I just wonder
who's going to be the first one to jump on
a deal and get this thing figured out?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Like that's I mean, I think it's most likely going
to be La, right, So I mean they're probably going
to have the capability more so than maybe Cincinnati to
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Would you think, Yeah, I look, Cincinnati's tried to pull
money from wherever they could get. They had a sponsorship
for the stadium. Now like they've they've got that deal
lined up, like they've they've tried to add in revenue elsewhere.
It just I wonder if the Chargers are gonna, you know,
slow play this and maybe say, okay, well, you know,
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we wait another year like it just I'm curious when
one shoe falls, how quick afterwards does the other deal,
the other deal get done. Because Joe Burrow, if I
were to bet, I would say Joe Burrow gets his
deal done. They've been most vocal about it and most
open about wanting to get something done and get something
figured out. I would think he gets done it done
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first and then you know, Justin Herbert would soon fall
after that. But either way, both those guys are going
to get very very rich in a hurry, and good
for them.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Now, the question is is it going to be more
than Deshaun Watson? No, Aisash, it's not. It's it going
to be close. Yeah, No, not even close close. Massage
still going to be the guy. Wow, still going to
be the guy away at the top of the list.
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in about twelve minutes from now, we're gonna have another
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edition of You In and You Out as a close
up shop here on a Tuesday morning. But I do
find this a little bit funny lebar that Isaiah Rodgers
is the guy for the Indianapolis Colts. There's been this
investigation done or it's now currently still going on, but
the reports are saying this according to sportshandle dot com
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that the NFL is looking into this Colts player. ESPN
was reporting that it's Isaiah Rogers, and Isaiah Rodgers released
his statement just sort of saying the following, addressing the
current reports. I want to take full responsibility for my actions.
I know I have made mistakes, and I'm willing to
do whatever it takes to repair the situation. The last
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thing I ever wanted to do was to be a
distraction to the Cults organization, my coaches, and my teammates.
I've let people down that I care about. I made
an error judgment, and I'm going to work hard to
make sure that those mistakes are rectified through this process.
It's an honor to play in the NFL, and I've
never taken that lightly. I'm very sorry for all of this.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Let is I have taken it lightly? Yes, how can
you say you've never taken it lightly? You have taken
it lightly.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So that is from Isaiah Rodgers. And again the details
on this, and we talked about this earlier. Hundreds of
bets approximately, and they were done under a betting account
that was opened under the name of an associate of Rogers.
The bets included some Colts games, so he bet on
his own team, reportedly most in the twenty five to
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fifty dollars range, but one was a four figure bet.
It did get me to thinking, though, you've got players
in Detroit, You've got players with the Commanders. You had
Calvin Ridley, who was in Atlanta. You got Isaiah Rodgers
was with the Colts. These are all people that have
been popped for gambling on NFL games or, in the
(26:29):
case of Jamison Williams, college football games. None of these
are involving Raiders who were based in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
None of them.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And the NFL's big thing for the longest time was, well,
you know, we're not sure if we want to have
a professional sports team in the place where everybody goes
to gamble. I mean, that would be that would be
bad for everybody involved. And yet here we are and
none of these involve a Raider player who's in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, like it might be easier to who would Again,
there's probably there's there's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You can't track everything.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You can't track everything, So I mean the question becomes
how much of this is going on where it's just
not You're just not they're not catching it. Again, are
you going for a big fish or are you guppy hunting?
Because it seems like somebody who's betting twenty five to
(27:30):
fifty dollars, oh, reportedly, maybe one bet was what a
thousand dollars above the thousand range. That's just kind of
to me, that's so minuscule. Now, the the act itself
is what's what's most to me, what's the most concerning
(27:54):
of it for for the NFL. And the reason why
it's the act is because that's not enough money for
it to But does this lead to a way of
identifying how these guys are gambling and using other people's
accounts or does this open up the conversation of now
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you've entered into the realm of a player who's not
only betting and betting on the NFL, but they're betting
on their own team. The implications of what is connected
to what Isaiah Rogers has done could have crippling impacts
and effects on the economics and how things are done
(28:38):
within the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's that serious.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
That was one of the things with Pete rose Like.
One of his defenses was, well, I never bet against
my own team. But the problem is as a manager,
when you're betting on your team, you may keep a
reliever in the game longer because there's a financial impact
for you. You all of a sudden are making decisions
(29:05):
on your team based on your financial gramifications as opposed
to what's better for the team and what's better for
the player.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You go.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And so if you're Isaiah Rodgers and I.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Can't say you've never done anything, I mean, like, what
if this is a this is a part of never,
so it can't be never.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like what if you know, what if Isaiah Rodgers had
money on the Colts or maybe because you can make
these bets. And again I'm not accusing him, I'm just
saying that this is a possibility. There have been bets
on certain apps where in game you can bet on
where a team starts their drive at the next drive.
(29:48):
So what if Isaiah Rodgers is betting on the Colts
to start their next drive past the twenty five yard
line and he's a kick returner, all of a sudden,
he's bringing that ball out eight yards deep in the
end zone because he's got money on the game and
going against either a coach's orders or a recommendation that
(30:09):
if the balls kick that deep, just let it go
out of the end zone. Well, now that changes his
strategy when he's returning kicks because he wants to. And
again I'm not saying that that's specifically what happened here,
but when you have a player on the field.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
The point of what you're saying, Yeah, it is. If
they can impact what their bet is directly, that kind
of is I mean, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Like Calvin Ridley got suspended for a year and he
did seven game parlays and he was away from the team,
so it's not like he was playing in any of
these games, but he bet on his teams and he
did a parlay and he served as punishment and all
that's there. And then Jamison Williams got six games and
he bet on college football games. If you find out
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that Isaiah Rodgers was had in game bets or prop
bets to where he had direct impact on what the
results of those bets would.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Be, he might get banned forever. I'm telling you, dude,
over fifty twenty five dollar bets. And again, he might
get banned forever. I mean, but if a fifty twenty
five dollar bet, you know, on a long shot, I mean,
that's not you're not talking chump change if you flip that, like,
if you're talking something that has what like something that
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would create ten to fifteen thousand dollars off of just
one of those bets.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, that would be like a like a parlay of
a bunch of different games and something happening, like if
he if one of those thousand dollars bets was Colts
to start their drive here and I'm returning kicks and
I can make this happen.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
We got a problem, that's what. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We got a problem. There's a real problem. And again
the problem goes back to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
All right, but let me ask you. Let me play
devil advocate here. What's the problem.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
He's betting on games, so what that he has a
direct impact.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Let me play Devil's advocate. So what. I don't care, No,
but I'm just saying, so what, he's betting on the game,
so what.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So you're you're betting on your own team. Okay, you're
betting on a team that you have directed result, and
it affects a business relationship you have with fans and
gambling sites if they can't feel like this game is
on the up and off, if it's not being.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I could say, if a guy fumbled the ball and
let somebody pick it up, scoop and score something like that,
Like I get that, and maybe that's what makes it
makes it matter. Maybe that's what makes it matter. Like
you have somebody who's really in it, like like in
Blue Chips, where to do was like turning the ball
over on steals to make sure that they covered stuff
(32:57):
like that. Like I get that, I get that. It's
a dangerous it's a very slippery slope, man, And you
know what, for what it's worth just sustained from doing it, Yeah,
is a sustained upstain, upstain.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Even though it's the NFL's fault for getting rid of
the kickoff, like the way they're doing and he's got
to supplement his income as.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We talked about, you know, it's their fault. Blame the league,
all right.
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Speaker 4 (36:36):
Have you ever gone as an adult like I've gone
as a teenager like, which is like close to adulthood. Yeah,
I would recommend it.
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during the day and age of the type of cars
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You know, yeah, I know about Rogan. You know, Fred's
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I got Fred Rogan. We can we can play this game.
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Who knows two pros and no Joe. Yeah, maybe that
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Speaker 3 (03:08):
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Speaker 4 (03:31):
Let me ask you a question. Is it stressful for
you to drive a show?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Like?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Not?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Maybe not stressful? Maybe stressful might be too strong. But
do you have like a tabit of anxiety when you're
going to do a show and you're driving it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Never? Never? Ever?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Man, I get it's wiety, bro I fun. I get
anxiety running when I was running this show. Like when
I run up one game, I have zero anxiety, but
when I ran this one, I like felt anxiety.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I don't know. Maybe it's you just don't do it often.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, did you ever get anxiety when you played football?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yes, so you got You ever see my fingers? My
fingers man?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh as you bit them down?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'm a bit yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And my my my, that's like when my nerves, like
my anxiety kicks in, I bite my fingers. I know
it's people are sitting there ooing me right now saying
that's gross. But truth anxiety I get like so and
you don't even realize you're doing it, no, because it's
just it's just the anxiety hits Like I was feeling
(04:38):
the anxiety Friday and Monday. Man, I just like to
come in like on Friday, Monday through Friday, and even
even on Saturdays, like I have you know, TJ will
run the show every once in a while. I just
like being able to comment off of what's set up,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But when you got to set topics up.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And and guide it and this that and other and
transition it the right way and do the reads. And
I was looking at my reads, I was I had
to I had to read. I was like this Jones.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I was like, gusta indo, I just don't mess it up.
Don't mess up to read.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I just for whatever reason radio, I've never gotten nervous.
I've never gotten anxiety. There's never I get excited.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I don't know. I just have never thing when I
when I was when I was doing music, when I
was in the band, I would get like a little
anxiety or nerves and the second we started all gone.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Bro, I'd be still gone to my heart. I'd be
sick to my heart.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Before a game, like they'd be going out to do,
whether I was a captain or not, I'd be like,
please let the offense go first. Please let the offense
go first. Please let the office go first. I ain't
want to go out for really. I think Josh Allen
still throws up before every game.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I just didn't. I just didn't want to go first.
I never wanted to go first.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But once you were out there, it was oh, first hit, yeah,
first place over, yeah, yeah, first play, It's like, all right,
let's rock.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But up until then, it was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
S, what's weird about that is they tell you the
only thing worse than getting your ass whooped is waiting
for it to happen. And you were the one whooping ass.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But you know, when you're looking at dudes that are
like six six six seven three hundred, like first off,
John run In, I had to remind myself. I had
to remind myself of the Trey Johnson's and and the
Trey Thomas's, and the John Runyons and the Larry Allens.
I had to remind myself because I look at these
athletes today.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I told you I was. I went to to a
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Game and I was at the Iowa game with with Q,
and I was like, my god, like what where?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like these people are aliens?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
They're not. They're just not even from here. They're just
not from here. From meeting all that corn bread. I
guess yes, but it's just the wildest to me, it's
the wildest thing to have to comprehend that this is
who you have to deal with for four quarters. Every
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once in a while, every once in a while, the
boogeyman really shows you that they're real, like every once
in a while, like Larry Allen was a real boogeyman,
Like he was real, Like Floesel Adams was a real boogeyman.
He was It was real. And they were on the
same offensive line like it was just they were real.
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I mean, it was just it was just very daunting
before a game to sit there and be thinking I
gotta go up against them, or you see a running
back and you're like, man, there's Edge're in James, like,
there's edge right there. Peyton standing right there talking to
him like f like this is who we got to
deal with today.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Like it just and your nerves be so my nerves
were really really bad. And then once I got in
and made like and not even made a play, just
that first play where I got to put my hand
on them and they got to put their hand on me.
I'll say the one time. It's interesting. It was my
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rookie year. It was my rookie year, and we were
in Dallas and they had talked about how intense the
rivalry was and this, that and the other, and Larry
Allen came downhill on me and hit me and I
couldn't breathe.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Like and I saw the sweat.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
This is when I knew I was in like a
real like this is a real game against a real dude.
The sweat came off of my jersey. The man knocked
the sweat off of my jersey. And I was like ooh,
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And I went back to the huddle and they're like
you good. I was like, god dang, bro, I was like,
but but after I got through to god dang, you
know what happened, I started laughing and and was like,
all right, game on. I gave Larry Allen a few
(09:30):
I gave some pretty big dudes. I gave them. I
gave them, I gave them all they could handle. But yeah,
I just the anxiety of it all, bro, like just
you had to deal with it, like a lot of emotion.
I was dealing with a lot of emotion on Monday
and Friday night.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, you know, it's weird though. You're such a
chill guy, like you're so relaxed that it surprises me
that you would that you feel anxiety going into stuff.
What about when you had kids? Were you anxious or
nervous when your kids are about to be born?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I was anxious.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I was anxious because you never want you never
want anything to go wrong, and and that's why I
was anxious. Like I wanted to count their fingers and
their toes. I wanted to smell them, like I wanted
to hear them cry, to make sure that they were
you know, everything was okay, because you know, the one thing,
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the one thing that really really has you like antsy
and anticipating, is is she going to be okay?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is the baby going to be okay? Yeah? I didn't
feel any of that. Dang. I just I don't know what.
I don't know what was wrong with me? I mean,
what were you thinking in the moment?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
All right, cool, he's healthy, I mean before.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's hair though, Like you're saying, like in the during
the child birth, like how are you feeling door and
the shout birth.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Whatever, I don't I don't know. They were just there
was no my whole thought was all right, now he's here,
he's breathing, everything's intact, all right, so what's the next step.
And it was just sort of like, uh, there was
not even close to crying, not even there was no
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like no real emotions. It was just kind of whatever,
like let's let's go, let's let's get this done, and
let's let's be good at this. That was That was
my whole thought.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't know, there might be something wrong with me.
I'll say this, there could be something wrong with you.
But at the same time, we all handle things differently. Yeah,
you know, I was always nervous, always nervous. Just even
if I'm like chilling, I'm still always I just always
have anxiety. It's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'd stay having anxiety, but I don't show it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A lot of you talk to, even the guys who
fight all the time, or you know, the guys like
UFC fighters or boxers who fight all the time, it
would be hard hard to find one of them that
says they're not scared before they go out, because and
these are that'll take short notice fights like this guy,
Donald Cowboy Seroni's a UFC fighter. He just retired recently,
(12:12):
he's going to the Hall of Fame. Never won a championship,
but one of the most loved fighters in the history
of the organization and an MMA because he fought. Everybody
was willing to fight. Everybody's short notice didn't matter, two
days notice, two hours notice. He would show up and
fight and it would be a good fight. Every time
he said he was anxious and nervous every single time,
(12:34):
and on the way out to the cage almost every
time he would say, I don't want to do this.
I don't want any part of this. The nerves, the
anxiety you talk about that.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I would never go as far as to say I
was scared. I never felt scared, just uneasy, just the anxiety,
like I got to hit this big mother effort, Like
I got to hit him. He's gonna hit me, Like
we're we are about to thump. We're about the thump
of LaVar var var let's go we thumping. Like I'm
(13:04):
on the inside having an all out conversation with myself.
Can I get him? Is he gonna get me? Is
gonna hurt today? Oh, it's gonna hurt. Look at that
mother effort. It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
He's big as hell. Look at him. He's bigger than
what I thought. God dang, why is he so big?
Like you're looking at these dudes across the way they
coming onto the field, It's like dang. And then every
once in a while, not often, but every once in
a while you see the crowd. Not often though, but
every once in a while. I would see the crowd
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like these big mother efforts out here, We're about to
get this thing in. Look at all these god dang people,
Look at all these people.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You know, is he you mentioned Larry Allen? Yeah, man,
six three three thirty five. Big dude, big dude, right,
but normal can compare to nowadays. Nowadays he would be
viewed as an undersized tackle. But he was viewed as
that then, six three three thirty five. Yeah, he was
viewed as undersize back then, and just a murderer. Ain't
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nobody like him, Ain't nobody like him. There probably will
never be a lineman like Larry Allen that ever plays
the game. And then what he Bentlee, can you look
up with Larry Allen benched, I think it was like
seven hundred pounds. I think he threw out was like
seven hundred pounds at the Pro Bowl or something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Let's go he did it. He did it in the
weight room in Dallas too. Though his largest one, his lot,
his largest amount was in I believe in their facility.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's go live to Larry Allen Spotter lead to Live
for the latest Lee.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I am looking at him benching seven hundred pounds right now,
and I believe at the combine it was two twenty
five forty three times.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh my god, this a lot lot.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man, forty three times.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I mean to comprehend that. I've seen him lift. I've
seen him, dude. I was at that Pro Bowl when
he was lifting.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To twenty five forty three times.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Bruh.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It looked like he was like lifting a kid. Wait,
oh my god, it looked like he was lifting a
kid with And I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Think he had like super short arms, did he? Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Not super short, because like something not super long. Though
he's a little doude. Oh my god, he's kind of
like a little dude. That's hilarious. Two twenty five forty
three times. There's just so much going on in that
man's body. I guess because he was assassinating people.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Bro a Hall of Fame. It's multiple time All pros,
eleven time pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
He was assassinating.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What a great career he had, man, damn, he had
a great career.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Started at the couple level though there was a couple
levem that you you just man, you just didn't want
to deal with him, mane.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, So the great Larry Alan two twenty five forty
three times. How many times could you throw up two
twenty five right now? Um?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, I've been doing sets with two twenty five for ten.
I did four sets of ten, so that's forty.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Imagine multiplying that the one set you did four times times.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, I just don't have the muscle stamina like that.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I don't. I'm not a I'm a sprinter. I don't
have stamina out fatigue.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Larry Allen was a freak show.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
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Speaker 3 (16:37):
Though.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
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we are going to have another edition of You In
or You Out as we close up shop here on
a Tuesday morning, LaVar Arrington. The LA Chargers had themselves
a charity golf outing yesterday in southern California, and one
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of the big topics of conversation was about Justin Herbert
and this contract extension that they're trying to get done
or they're trying to work on. You've got Brandon Staley
talking about the head coach. They're talking about, well, you know,
these talks are ongoing, and then you've got Justin Herbert saying,
you know, it's kind of outside of my hands, and
you know what we'll get done. What we can get done,
(17:49):
et cetera, et cetera, just saying, you know, just the
typical stuff at this point in a negotiation. But my
question for you would be this, because Joe Burrows the
other guy that people looking at as the next one
to get a big deal. It as a player who's
in a negotiation to try and get a contract, are
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you trying to be the first one to get your
deal done or are you waiting to see what the
other guy's going to get so that you can top it.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I think you just try to get your deal done.
Honestly speaking, that's just me again. I do this one
thing that maybe not a lot of people do but
they probably should do more of, is worry about themselves
and whatever the market is. While it is advantageous to
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be able to have a comp, you're already working off
of the comp of the guys that got their contracts,
the major contracts in the wave of major contract before
your time came up, so you generally know what the
mark give value is of getting a top contract by
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the time you're going back to the table. So I
don't I don't look at it as let me wait
and see what this guy's going to get. Before I
go to the table to get mine. If it happens
that way, then it happens that way. But I mean,
if you're really breaking it down at its bare minimum,
if you're in multiples and multiples, like you're talking about
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eight figure to nine figure, you know situations, you know
that's that's that's significant.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's significant. And so.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I always say, I subscribe to worry about yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It's funny that you say that because when I remember
when I was we were going in the draft, Cleveland
was trying to get me to do the deal, and
I would have gone number one. I told him I
need quarterback money. And then they went to Courtney. So
I told Courtney, negotiate hard, because I'm not going to
(20:10):
negotiate with them anymore. Well, Courtney's agent puts in the
contract a clause where it says if any other players
do a deal that's higher than theirs in total or
signing bonus, whichever one it was, then they get to
to renegotiate to make sure that him as the number
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one pick.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It was more it was like a Favorite Nations type deal.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Own I don't know, I have no idea, but that
come to find out that was what was in wow
in the contract, so you know it is what it
is for me for one, think that it's so much
money that's involved, what are you even you know, what
(20:59):
are you you arguing and fighting about? If it's like
a couple hundred thousand this way, a couple hundred thousand
that way. Now I could see if it's a whole
bunch of millions one way or the other. But if
it's not millions one way or the other, then you know,
you just got to go ahead and rock with it. Man,
You get your done, get your deal done it they're
(21:20):
ready to do a deal. Do the deal that was
the Favored Nations? Did they Did anybody do that in
the NFL?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So like the Favorite Nations deal is it was something
I know they did. In professional wrestling, there were a
lot of wrestlers who had or there were some wrestlers
in the old WCW where they had it in their
contract if somebody else came into the company and got
more money than them, they would automatically their contract would
(21:52):
automatically go up higher than that person, or they would
match that person. Rather, so whoever came in if they
were now these second largest contract. They would automatically match
every single person that came in after them, Like that's
negotiating like that, that would be the.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Way to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And I just wonder if you're Justin Herbert or if
you're Joe Burrow, Like Joe Burrow's the face of that franchise.
Joe Burrow's changed the entire landscape of how we look
at the Cincinnati Bengals. Justin Herbert is you know the
next you know Chargers quarterback. We saw Philip Rivers had
a great, great run there. Neither one of these guys
(22:32):
are going anywhere, but because their quarterbacks are kind of
in this weird spot to where as leaders of the team,
you can't really hold out right, Like it almost feels
like quarterbacks are judged differently if they were to do this.
So you assume something's gonna get done. I just wonder
who's going to be the first one to jump on
a deal and get this thing figured out?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Like that's I mean, I think it's most likely going
to be La, right, So I mean they're probably going
to have the capability more so than maybe Cincinnati to
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Would you think, Yeah, I look, Cincinnati's tried to pull
money from wherever they could get. They had a sponsorship
for the stadium. Now like they've they've got that deal
lined up, like they've they've tried to add in revenue elsewhere.
It just I wonder if the Chargers are gonna, you know,
slow play this and maybe say, okay, well, you know,
(23:24):
we wait another year like it just I'm curious when
one shoe falls, how quick afterwards does the other deal,
the other deal get done. Because Joe Burrow, if I
were to bet, I would say Joe Burrow gets his
deal done. They've been most vocal about it and most
open about wanting to get something done and get something
figured out. I would think he gets done it done
(23:45):
first and then you know, Justin Herbert would soon fall
after that. But either way, both those guys are going
to get very very rich in a hurry, and good
for them.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Now, the question is is it going to be more
than Deshaun Watson? No, Aisash, it's not. It's it going
to be close. Yeah, No, not even close close. Massage
still going to be the guy. Wow, still going to
be the guy away at the top of the list.
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edition of You In and You Out as a close
up shop here on a Tuesday morning. But I do
find this a little bit funny lebar that Isaiah Rodgers
is the guy for the Indianapolis Colts. There's been this
investigation done or it's now currently still going on, but
the reports are saying this according to sportshandle dot com
(25:02):
that the NFL is looking into this Colts player. ESPN
was reporting that it's Isaiah Rogers, and Isaiah Rodgers released
his statement just sort of saying the following, addressing the
current reports. I want to take full responsibility for my actions.
I know I have made mistakes, and I'm willing to
do whatever it takes to repair the situation. The last
(25:22):
thing I ever wanted to do was to be a
distraction to the Cults organization, my coaches, and my teammates.
I've let people down that I care about. I made
an error judgment, and I'm going to work hard to
make sure that those mistakes are rectified through this process.
It's an honor to play in the NFL, and I've
never taken that lightly. I'm very sorry for all of this.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Let is I have taken it lightly? Yes, how can
you say you've never taken it lightly? You have taken
it lightly.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So that is from Isaiah Rodgers. And again the details
on this, and we talked about this earlier. Hundreds of
bets approximately, and they were done under a betting account
that was opened under the name of an associate of Rogers.
The bets included some Colts games, so he bet on
his own team, reportedly most in the twenty five to
(26:06):
fifty dollars range, but one was a four figure bet.
It did get me to thinking, though, you've got players
in Detroit, You've got players with the Commanders. You had
Calvin Ridley, who was in Atlanta. You got Isaiah Rodgers
was with the Colts. These are all people that have
been popped for gambling on NFL games or, in the
(26:29):
case of Jamison Williams, college football games. None of these
are involving Raiders who were based in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
None of them.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And the NFL's big thing for the longest time was, well,
you know, we're not sure if we want to have
a professional sports team in the place where everybody goes
to gamble. I mean, that would be that would be
bad for everybody involved. And yet here we are and
none of these involve a Raider player who's in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, like it might be easier to who would Again,
there's probably there's there's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You can't track everything.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You can't track everything, So I mean the question becomes
how much of this is going on where it's just
not You're just not they're not catching it. Again, are
you going for a big fish or are you guppy hunting?
Because it seems like somebody who's betting twenty five to
(27:30):
fifty dollars, oh, reportedly, maybe one bet was what a
thousand dollars above the thousand range. That's just kind of
to me, that's so minuscule. Now, the the act itself
is what's what's most to me, what's the most concerning
(27:54):
of it for for the NFL. And the reason why
it's the act is because that's not enough money for
it to But does this lead to a way of
identifying how these guys are gambling and using other people's
accounts or does this open up the conversation of now
(28:16):
you've entered into the realm of a player who's not
only betting and betting on the NFL, but they're betting
on their own team. The implications of what is connected
to what Isaiah Rogers has done could have crippling impacts
and effects on the economics and how things are done
(28:38):
within the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's that serious.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
That was one of the things with Pete rose Like.
One of his defenses was, well, I never bet against
my own team. But the problem is as a manager,
when you're betting on your team, you may keep a
reliever in the game longer because there's a financial impact
for you. You all of a sudden are making decisions
(29:05):
on your team based on your financial gramifications as opposed
to what's better for the team and what's better for
the player.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You go.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And so if you're Isaiah Rodgers and I.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Can't say you've never done anything, I mean, like, what
if this is a this is a part of never,
so it can't be never.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like what if you know, what if Isaiah Rodgers had
money on the Colts or maybe because you can make
these bets. And again I'm not accusing him, I'm just
saying that this is a possibility. There have been bets
on certain apps where in game you can bet on
where a team starts their drive at the next drive.
(29:48):
So what if Isaiah Rodgers is betting on the Colts
to start their next drive past the twenty five yard
line and he's a kick returner, all of a sudden,
he's bringing that ball out eight yards deep in the
end zone because he's got money on the game and
going against either a coach's orders or a recommendation that
(30:09):
if the balls kick that deep, just let it go
out of the end zone. Well, now that changes his
strategy when he's returning kicks because he wants to. And
again I'm not saying that that's specifically what happened here,
but when you have a player on the field.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
The point of what you're saying, Yeah, it is. If
they can impact what their bet is directly, that kind
of is I mean, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Like Calvin Ridley got suspended for a year and he
did seven game parlays and he was away from the team,
so it's not like he was playing in any of
these games, but he bet on his teams and he
did a parlay and he served as punishment and all
that's there. And then Jamison Williams got six games and
he bet on college football games. If you find out
(30:57):
that Isaiah Rodgers was had in game bets or prop
bets to where he had direct impact on what the
results of those bets would.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Be, he might get banned forever. I'm telling you, dude,
over fifty twenty five dollar bets. And again, he might
get banned forever. I mean, but if a fifty twenty
five dollar bet, you know, on a long shot, I mean,
that's not you're not talking chump change if you flip that, like,
if you're talking something that has what like something that
(31:28):
would create ten to fifteen thousand dollars off of just
one of those bets.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, that would be like a like a parlay of
a bunch of different games and something happening, like if
he if one of those thousand dollars bets was Colts
to start their drive here and I'm returning kicks and
I can make this happen.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
We got a problem, that's what. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We got a problem. There's a real problem. And again
the problem goes back to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
All right, but let me ask you. Let me play
devil advocate here. What's the problem.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
He's betting on games, so what that he has a
direct impact.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Let me play Devil's advocate. So what. I don't care, No,
but I'm just saying, so what, he's betting on the game,
so what.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So you're you're betting on your own team. Okay, you're
betting on a team that you have directed result, and
it affects a business relationship you have with fans and
gambling sites if they can't feel like this game is
on the up and off, if it's not being.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I could say, if a guy fumbled the ball and
let somebody pick it up, scoop and score something like that,
Like I get that, and maybe that's what makes it
makes it matter. Maybe that's what makes it matter. Like
you have somebody who's really in it, like like in
Blue Chips, where to do was like turning the ball
over on steals to make sure that they covered stuff
(32:57):
like that. Like I get that, I get that. It's
a dangerous it's a very slippery slope, man, And you
know what, for what it's worth just sustained from doing it, Yeah,
is a sustained upstain, upstain.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Even though it's the NFL's fault for getting rid of
the kickoff, like the way they're doing and he's got
to supplement his income as.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We talked about, you know, it's their fault. Blame the league,
all right.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
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What we keeping with the theme today is drive in
movie theater day. You guys ever go driving movies?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Have you ever gone as an adult like I've gone
as a teenager like, which is like close to adulthood. Yeah,
I would recommend it.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I've never been to a driving movie.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And I gotta tell you, I can understand why the
drive in movie people would have created drive in theaters
during the day and age of the type of cars
that Tyrone drives. I'm just telling you, the bigger the car,
the more room in your vehicle, the better. And if
(37:10):
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Speaker 3 (37:14):
Pioneer, what was it.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I had a sound system in my in my my
my call my vehicle at the time of going to
the drive in theater that I went to, and I
absolutely enjoyed myself, absolutely interesting drive in movie theaters are
the jam.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Where's is there a drive in theater nearby Lee? In
southern California, you're lax. Near the airport, there is one. Oh,
you got to be around.
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There was one in Glenn and ZUSA, but I think
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