June 7, 2023 • 39 mins
The PGA and LIV Golf merge, leaving a bad taste in the mouth of those who stuck to the moral high ground. The Old P, Petros Papadakis weighs in as well, plus UFO’s and much more on “You In Or Out?”
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Speaker 4 (01:18):
Good morning, yea, good morning, Hey, Good morning to you, buddy,
Good morning to you out there in radio land. Appreciate
you listening.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
LeVar and I were talking waxing poetically about the hypocrisy
of Jymonahan and the PGA Tour joining forces with Live
and look. Jmonahan also addressed the hypocrisy. But let's take
a listen to this gem. This was Jay Monahan yesterday
talking about the importance of the joining of forces of
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the PGA Tour and the Live Tour. Here was the
PGA Tour Commission.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It's a historical day for the PGA Tour in the
game of golf, and it's a historical day for the
pr F and the DP World Tour. And you know,
there's been a lot of tension in our sport over
the last couple of years. But what we're talking about
today is coming together to unify the game of golf.
We've recognized that together we can have a far greater
(02:15):
impact on this game than we can working a part.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
And I give Yasser great credit.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
For coming to the table, coming to discussions with an
open heart and an open mind. We did the same
and the game of golf is better for what we've
done here today.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just throw some cash on it, everything's fine.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Just throw us to the game of golf. Is what
you son, MoMA dirty rotten.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So Jeff Ogilvie, who is a golfer from Australia, he
spoke as Jay Monahan, who called this meeting with players
in the PGA Tour, and Jeff Ogilvie spoke afterwards and
just talked about, you know, the hypocrisy and said that
you know, he was called a hypocrite multiple times, that
(03:12):
things got very contentious there, that there was you know,
it was Johnson Wagner, who has won on the PGA
Tour before. He told the Golf Channel that there was
anger in the room. Quote, it was contentious. There were
many moments where certain players were calling for new leadership
of the PGA Tour and even got a couple standing ovations.
(03:33):
So it feels like this is like one of those
big school board meetings where somebody's got an issue with
one of the one of the things that's been implemented
at your schools Now and somebody steps up and says,
we need some better leadership, and they've raised their hand.
This is like like lead to lapse HOA meetings. Yes
that Lee leads and they all make a standing ovation
(03:57):
because everybody wants a Lee out because he can't fix
the leaks that are that are ruining some of the
buildings there in the little community.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They got so yeah, this whole the just the whole.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Idea that this was dropped on the lapse of everybody,
and nobody was like Phil Michelson didn't even really know
about it. Greg Norman, who's you know, running the Live
Tour so to speak, he didn't even really know about it.
Was kind everybody just sort of had this drop on
their lap. And you got guys on the PGA Tour
who were pissed off about it, and then the guys
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on the Live Tour like, oh, this has really happened. Sweet,
let's go to Twitter and start taking some victory laps.
It's just the way this stuff was done. Comedy through
and through from the PGA Tour. But a great day
for golf.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
LeVar wonderful day for golf, I guess I mean in
terms of with the purse strings and everything that is
being impacted. And you know what, maybe just maybe this
deal and this merger could actually represent, uh, what we
always say, sports is a microcosm of society and societal issues.
(05:08):
Maybe this is the start of nations mergering too, and
getting rid of their beefs and getting rid of what
they got going on, and just basically saying, listen, it's
the bottom line that matters, and us not being at
odds with one another in the legal system and in
this case, you know, in the world's case, I mean,
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and you know, turmoil of war and espionage and spies
and and and just kind of all kinds of infiltration
and all those different things.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Now it can all come to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
We could just all live in peace and and play
golf together, and play sports together, and and eat foods
from different places together, and and and just be cool.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
With one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it's just this will bring world peace.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
This is this is the beginning of it. Jonas Reed.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
If if the PGA and the LIVE can come together,
and that what Rocky said, if I can and you can,
then we all can't.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
You know. Yeah, And the next thing, you know, they
can all live together in peace.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Man and next thing you know, they got to Rocky
five and he's in a street fight with Tom getting
getting his ass beat outside that deli in downtown Shilly. Yeah,
it's uh it just hey man, all right, co uh
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go and convince everybody that that we are all good
here and uh and and see what, Like I wonder
who's gonna be the first player from the PGA to
Like Tiger Woods has got enough stroke within golf and
within sports and pop culture and culture in general that
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his initial statements I think are going to be the
most anticipated.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like that had a lot to say when they were
approached with the deals, and when these other guys were
taking the deals and they were posted in the social
media posed to them being on the nightclub airplanes that
they were flying on to go to the different events
or whatever. Everybody has something to say. You better say
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something now. You better say something now, because if there
is total quiet and no type of opinion or anything
that comes from them, then you know what, Like I mean,
need I say how much credibility? In my mind, the
(07:44):
PGA toard loses the participants that shunned, the people that
chose to live toward to begin with, Like they were
basically being they were basically being condemned. Yeah yeah, I
mean it was nothing short of them being called anti American,
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anti patriotic, and now all of a sudden, the PGA
does it. I want to hear the same thing about
the PGA. I want to hear the same thing about
Mahonnah Mahona Mahan. I want to hear the same thing
about all of these people. I want to hear the
same things. And I want to and you know what,
(08:28):
not only do I want to hear the same things,
I want to hear more. I want to hear outrage.
I want to hear I want to hear how does
this happen? I want to I want to hear about
all of the horrible things that the PGA tore, What
what they represent? What what that is based upon them
making this decision. If we don't hear that there's something.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wrong, It's exactly why you should never take shots at somebody,
because there's a real chance you could end up in
that same place that they are. Like I could remember
Aaron Lewis, who was the lead singer for this band
Stained and then he went on to like a country
music career. But there was somebody who screwed up the
(09:09):
Star Spangled banner, They screwed up the national anthem. It
might have been Christina Aguilare or somebody like that.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I remember it was definitely Carl Lewis.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, well, there definitely was Carl Lewis.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Uh, guys, he was trying to be a scene.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Carl Lewis's rendition was so bad people just thought it
was a remix, like, yeah, I guess he's doing something different.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But Aaron Lewis went out on social media when Christina
Aguilere or somebody like that screwed up and missed, you know,
spoke and gave out the wrong lyrics and just buried them,
I mean, took them to pieces for how could you
not know this? This is your country, et cetera, et cetera.
And then like a year later he was doing the
(09:50):
Star Spangled banner and he screwed up and had to
go back and say kind of now I understand, now,
I know, you know I shouldn't you know, I shouldn't
have spoken out the way I did because it could
happen to anybody. Man, if you're some of these golfers
who came out and you did this under the guys
that you were in a place with the PGA Tour
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where they would never go down that path. And you
stood out there and you and you called out all
of these guys for taking this money, only to find
out two years later you're all back in the same place,
except they got one hundred million dollars and you got
a bag of crap and a bunch of stuff all
over your face because you stepped in it. And realize
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now that you shouldn't have shot your mouth off because
it was all a bunch of garbage the entire time.
Like I would be furious Roy McElroy, all of these guys,
I'd be furious that we were putting this spot to
speak out about it. And did you notice Roy McElroy
hadn't really said a whole lot lately, He had kind
of steered away from it. He was most vocal, and
(10:56):
then somebody asked him about it. I think it was
at the PGA champion Chip, either before the PGA Championship
or during the round, and he just kind of said
something along the lines of, you know, I think the
focus should be on, you know, growing golf and getting
golf into a better spot or something along those lines.
It was really canned answer. And I wonder if he
started to get the vibe that maybe there were some
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things that were about to change. I wonder if maybe
he got a feeling that, hey, I should keep my
mouth shut because I don't want to look more foolish
than maybe I already do for calling these guys out.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And that's just and you know what, You're going to
look more foolish for thinking you're gonna not look more
foolish for calling them.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Everybody kept receipts, all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I mean, why wouldn't you, of course, why would you
not in a scenario like this, Why would you not?
Because if you don't come out and have something to
say out your face about how how how hypocritical this
is and that I, by no means any way I
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am associated with what took place. I am outraged, I'm disgusted.
In fact, I will not even be participating in PGA
tour events upcoming until I have a better understanding of
what the hell is going on. If you're not coming
out saying that you're, you know what, like you are
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what people think you are. Yeah, man, if you're one
of the people that had something to say about all
the other golfers that was going to the Live Tour,
and you were speaking passionately about it. I'm American, Jack, Okay,
you better say something, you better say something.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's just well, what a story, man, what a story?
I mean? And we were thinking, God, what was going.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
To get us through as we wait around ninety five
days for the next game in the NBA Finals, just
like trying to figure out you know, because by the way,
the NBA Finals are tipping off later on tonight, a
Game three is tipping off later on in Miami, but
we played on Sunday. You know, why don't they just
take a couple more days in between?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know, let's just really drag this whole thing. Let's
really stretch out the NBA Finals. See in fact, you
know what they should do to be determined if necessary
a game seven, Like, let's do it like the opening
weekend of the NFL, Like, why don't we just see
if we can stretch this thing out the next three
months and see where we're at at that point? What
are we doing here? Can't you just play every other
day like every other day and have the Stanley Cup
(13:30):
Final be on the game in between and then we
get both of them every single night. This waiting around
crap for the NBA to try and milk whatever they
can as far as publicity and coverage of the NBA Finals,
What do you need to know? You need more time
to break down Game three. It's tied one to one.
Whoever wins this game has a clear advantage in the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Done.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Show is written, story is told. Put that on your
chiron and run at the entire day on ESPN. If
you want to just did all the work for you this.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Shove it up yours. I'm sorry, what's it like?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Okay, do you do?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Would you be a bigger fan if they just ran
it every other day. Let's just go.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's like, it doesn't take that long to get from
Denver to Miami. Let's go like every other day, bang
bang bang, and then we're done, right, But they can't
do it, got to drag it out annoying?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yeah, well there you go, NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is, by the way.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I'm excited to see the game though, yeah, I mean
it is.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I'm very curious because I just was not certain that
that the Heat could win a game in this series,
and and lo and behold you know they've been given
some hope and now there there's a series.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And you got the Denver Nuggets who are two and
a half point favorite in this game in Miami after
that disappointing finish to Game two of that series, and
I gut feeling, if you just went by.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Your gut feeling, tell me the gut feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I think the Nuggets are gonna whoop that ass tonight.
That's what I think. I think Mike Malone was pissed.
I think he was furious at his team and he's
probably gonna throw on every Celtics loss to the Miami
Heat and say, this is what arrogance against this team
that doesn't give a rip about where they're seeded in
the NBA playoffs gets you. You lose games like this,
(15:21):
and if they get hot from three, they'll figure out
a way to make baskets late.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's why they're so good late in games.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And if i'm the Denver Nuggets, get out to a
lead early, shut that crowd up, and send everybody to
the Cleveland or by the third quarter so that you
can get this win and move on and try and
take care of business in Game four, which is probably
going to be sometime in August. The way this NBA
Final scheduling is gone. So the way I look at it, well,
(15:47):
what's your gut.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
My gut says we should take a break, and.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Also that maybe winning for one of these teams will
take a break this evening as well.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yes, that is a that's what tells me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's a fair point. It is Two Pros and a
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on FSR,
twenty minutes from now, we are going to tell you
about one of the mysteries, one of the great mysteries
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So we'll get into that for you about twenty minutes
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we turn it over to the old Pe Petros Papadakas.
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Speaker 8 (17:04):
Good morning, Pee, what's happening Forget about me? What's the mystery?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You gotta stick around and find out. I can't come on.
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'll text it to you, but everybody else listening has to.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Am I going to be impressed or completely and totally
let down?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, I don't want to tell you you are going
to be totally let down.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh come on, this is p Come on Petros.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Yeah, exactly, thank you. I cannot I cannot be fooled.
I cannot be I'll tell you that cannot be bamboozled
into thinking that Prince Harry is some kind of warrior
prince taking on the media.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I will say this, you were fooled by the PGA.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Have about that a trip?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
How about golf popping up on the headlines here?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
In the middle of waiting around for Game three the
NBA Finals, P I know you love you some golf,
you know what, guy?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
I think what was interesting is and you don't see
much of this anymore in our day and age. I
guess you do with a trade or something like that
in a major pro sport that nobody saw coming. I
mean I always think about the pau Gasol trade that
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just kind of happened and hit everybody upside the head.
It was a little bit before social media was super prevalent,
but it is really hard to pull anything off without
it leaking. And the fact that this just hit everybody
in the head like an anvil and a cartoon yesterday,
not that everybody and I got a lot of texts like, yeah,
(18:42):
this is great and it's interesting, but I don't care
about golf. I don't want to say I don't care
about golf. I certainly care more than I used to.
I understand the sport and why it's super super hard,
the pressure and the culture of it, and it's a
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country clip sport that a lot of us have a
hard time relating to. But this is crazy. I mean,
this is literally people's bosses for years telling them not
to take one hundred million dollar pay day because they
have a moral high ground or whatever. And then your
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bosses take the one hundred million dollar pay day and
you're just expected to swallow it. And there's going to
be if you're one of those PGA guys that was
running around talking about evil Saudi's and killing the media
and all of these terrible things that you would link
in with with Saudi money. Of course you don't bother
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checking everybody else that you are a patron of that
takes money from all kinds of different, very very questionable
regimes around the country, including our own questionable crap. So
it really, it really becomes a meyer of a thing.
But it's literally like somebody telling you you can't take
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this blood money and then turning around weeks, months, a
year or so later and taking the blood money. That's
got to be pretty tough to swallow if you're one
of those PGA guys. And I guess there's gonna be
a lot of bad blood for a long time, but
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there's gonna be a lot more money, and that's going
to be something to excite people that are golfers. But
they have a lot of logistical stuff to figure out.
I mean a lot. They got to move mountains, so
good luck. I guess they'll tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Uh, Petri's I gotta because you feel like in lebarn
I were talking, we think that you would be the
guy to ask when it comes to this. So these
seven to eight hundred million dollars whatever the number was
that was offered to Tiger Woods that he could have got,
correct from Live Golf had he taken the deal. Could
his ex wife have gotten any of that?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I don't know afterward?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying, Like because if
it's post divorce and he earned it after they were together,
like he would have gotten to keep all of that.
That really would have made up for a lot of
the income he lost.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I mean you're talking about two sets of gigantic lawyer groups. Yeah,
that would be working on that yea and Macro money.
And I think LeVar, I mean, you understand this more
than most of us. When it comes to the NFL
or lucrative sports where people are making a bunch of money.
(21:39):
You got your Tom Brady's and your Aaron Rodgers of
the world. They are the exception, and I think golf
is the same. I mean, the guys that are really
getting screwed here are not Tiger Woods, who who could
lose a half a billion dollars and not lose anything probably,
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but these guys that turned down ten million, fifty million,
a lot of money that is not going to be
available anymore, only to have the entity they were working
for turn around and tell them, hey, it's okay to
do something we told you was a completely morally bankrupt move.
(22:21):
That is tough that for guys. And we were talking
to we're really lucky to have Gary McCord on yesterday right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
When it broke.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
We we have a relationship, I guess with Gary McCord,
And he came on and was talking about it, and
he said, they might have to take, you know, a
couple hundred million dollars into some kind of slush fund
or retirement fund or some kind of pension for a.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Lot of these guys.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
For the young guys, obviously, it wouldn't or the guys
that don't make a bunch of money. It wouldn't make
the biggest difference for the top fifteen to twenty whatever guys,
but all the other guys probably deserve some kind of
compensation or something for their loyalty. But they got a
lot to figure out. And I am not that guy.
I mean, my wife pays the bills around here.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, I wonder if they have any type of
legal action that they could take if they cost it
themselves millions of dollars.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
The people who took the deals to begin with with
the live or will continue to be be monetized by
Live the way that they were for taking the risk
of doing it.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I don't I mean, I think these contracts are contracts, right,
and they probably have to pay them out regardless.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I mean, I'm still trying to figure out the nil
thing where somebody says, the guy's getting ten million dollars,
But what if he transfers, what if he gets hurt? Right,
what if the circumstances change? Right, We don't know how
these guys get paid in the nil. I mean, you
want to talk about something murky, I mean, that is
murky and that has got something even I was talking
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to a pro football coach just two three days ago
and he was like, yeah, we have no idea how
that works, Like none of us do.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Nobody has any idea.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
And the coaches aren't really telling you at the college
level how it works.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
This I think, I mean, that's not a good example.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
Just I made the example to say that structure is
probably a lot more confusing than just a standard contract
that you signed with a company. Even though the company
is like a Saudi company that is like bleeding oil
and money. I think it still stands to reason that
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you get paid. I mean, Phil Mickelson, what did he
what was it like one hundred million dollars? Yeah, something
like that. Yeah, they're gonna pay They're gonna pay them
one hundred million dollars. And if not, like LeVar said,
there's probably gonna be some kind of lawyers figuring it
all out. I mean, the billable hours from law firms
for this merger go up a little bit, a little bit,
(25:07):
and you know what that starve if you need any
representation on the live in PGA merger.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Those those stores, those those snow stores about us.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
You know Sweet James's new number, Sweet James the dense
beard adjustment. And my lawyer, yeah, eight hundred nine million.
That's one eight hundred nine zero zero zero zero zero
zero cent center.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But I I really I.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Don't know what well I'm too stupid to understand, uh,
this kind of thing. But there's a lot more money
involved now, and I guess it's a it's a huge,
huge endeavor and golfers everywhere are going to have something
to say, not just golfers, probably politics and and all
(25:56):
that stuff. But it is amazing where you say, well,
everybody's got a price, and you say, well, you know
not what it comes to doing business with so and so,
and then I just rewinded Lebron James telling us that
we don't know what's going on in China and shut up.
It's like, come on, dude, you know. The money's the money,
and people are gonna take it, and they're going to
find ways to do verbal and emotional and mental gymnastics
(26:21):
to get out of questions that they're asked about it.
And look, I never had some huge, fiery reason to
not like live golf. I would probably find it very
hard to find. It's on the same network that the
PAC twelve is probably headed to the Dancing Frog and
the CW or Hello my Baby, Hello my Darland, Hello
(26:45):
my rag Time. So you know, I don't really have
a dog in this fight, but it is interesting when
people are really really preachy, really preachy, and then they
just turn around and the DL anyway, I mean, what
is Rory McElroy gonna say, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Got Well, it's funny that he's he's all of a
sudden gotten quiet in recent weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I wonder if he sort of anticipated something.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Gary McCord told us that he told us, you know,
they must have. They had to go around to about
six or seven of these golfers and be.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Like, hey, we're really sorry about this, but you know
that hundred million you turned down?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh yeah, in a bit of a pike, like it's
just yeah, it is. It is hilarious. I was actually
thinking about this too. Uh, when it comes to just
a lesson learned in all of this that everybody's a hypocrite,
and so when you condemned somebody for the way they
(27:46):
do business, if you look deep enough, you could probably
find something wrong with them. And the most recent one
was like when Nick Saban called out jimbo Fisher for
the nil and his recruiting and all that stuff, and
it was like Jim Jimbo Fisher's first reaction was, oh,
I know stuff about you if you want to go there,
like I got stuff on you, and it's like like
all of these guys that were reprimanding these golfers for
(28:09):
taking the money and all of this stuff and standing
on this soapbox, and as it turns out, everybody's full
of crap, like you're just a hypocrite. And that's why
lesson learn don't throw stones. Because everybody probably lives in
a glasshouse, or at least has some part of their house.
It's built by glass that you could break easily if
(28:29):
you really wanted to look hard enough and throw something
at it.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I mean, if yeah, if you break it down.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I mean, all you really got to do is look
at your phone, right, Yes, who built your phone?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah? All right?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
I mean it goes that far in today's day and age,
and we're all just trying to live in the world.
I mean, we're all just trying to get through the
day the moments without your wife yelling at you or
whatever it is you're scared of. And it is interesting
though that this came to fruition, the way came to fruition.
(29:01):
And I don't know, maybe I'm just older now, but
when I was younger, it was a little bit harder
to just strip the skin off and find the blatant hypocrisy.
Now it's almost like people don't they don't care, right
because we're so inundated.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I didn't mean for this to become such a heavy conversation,
but no.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
There's that type of conversation.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
We're so deeply inundated with information right Like there. It
used to be like you think about sitting around with
your friends back in the day and the stuff he
used to talk about and the stuff you used to
convince each other was right, and ninety five percent of
it was dead wrong. I mean, now we have Wikipedia
(29:46):
and you're like, damn, you know, I've been spreading lies
for my whole life, you know, like you know, a
lot of information is so readily available to us. We're
so saturated in it that it almost doesn't mean as
much as it used to. You know, being right or
wrong or having the moral high ground is not it's
not stable anymore. It's not like you're standing on a rock.
(30:10):
It's like you're standing on the sand and it's constantly
moving because the information is constantly coming at us. It's like,
you know, when the coaches say, well, it's a first
week of camp and we're installing, and it's like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Drinking out of a fire hose.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
That's that's kind of like what this is.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
You know, it's like every day we wake up and
we and you know, we're we're all radio hosts, so
we look at the news and we're involved in the news,
and we live in the twenty four hour media.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
But there's just so much all day every day.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
It's almost like you've come all the way around to
the other side and there's nothing, So you don't you know,
you don't really you're not affected by the news. Oh
there's another shooting, All right, where's my combucha? You know,
it's it's uh, it's it's just id problem. I do
feel like and we have too much information and it
(31:06):
doesn't affect us like it used to. So, you know,
people they say, well, let's take this hit. We'll take
the money, we'll take the hit, We'll take the four
or five day or fifty day or whatever it is
pr hit, and eventually it will blow over and we
will we will be rich.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
That's I think that's a big part of this, or
at least some part of it, is just we don't
have a gauge on how impactful information is anymore. Because
we're constantly living in it. I mean, sports talk radio
itself used to be just informational. The guys that did
sports talk radio were guys that knew the starting lineup
(31:49):
of the Kansas City Royals, and they lived in New York.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Hack saws headlines, right.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Because that was the only information you could get about
the sports world between the newspapers coming out and maybe
the evening news. So you know, and that's changed. All
the everything is on everybody's phone at the same time.
So what do you have to do in sports talk radio?
Maybe be a little bit more entertaining and things like that.
(32:14):
It's a it's a confusing thing to navigate. And good
luck to all the golfers at the country club drinking.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Their momoses at a place called the nineteen.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
One d and forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Polo that stretches, that resists sweat.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
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pe Petros Papa Day Giz. He is the co host
of the Petros Money Show on AM five to seventy
LA Sports. He's a Fox College football analyst and he's
our buddy every Wednesday here on the show.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Pee.
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Speaker 10 (34:47):
Big news in the world of UFOs. Those who are
believers that there's were, there's those amongst us.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
Former intelligence officer David Grush come out and quote unquote
confirmed that the government has intact UFOs in their possession,
along with bodies of extraterrestrials.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
About that Lamar, More and more people coming out, people
that have knowledge of the situation, who are acknowledging that
UFOs do exist. We've got videos that have come out
all of a sudden during COVID. They thought everybody was
looking the other way, or they had a mask that
had slipped up over their eyes and they weren't going
(35:33):
to see these videos. And now we're getting more and
more proof that this stuff is real.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Man, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
What do you mean, you don't care?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
We're still finding species on Earth that were unidentified, Like
who cares?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So okay, what would you rather?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Would you rather see a flying ill come out of
the sky, Like, oh, what is that? That's that's an alien.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
So, which, by the way, unidentified aerial phenomenon, not UFOs anymore.
But this task force by the government also studies vehicles
in the seat, unidentified vehicles in the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Sea vehicles yep, so UFOs and the seat and the
ocean and the water.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Yeah, I'm all the way out on this.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm telling you, man, moment of contact. I told you
guys that that documentary by James Fox, he put out
phenomenal stuff about a crash landing and a recovery in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Unbelievable. You watch that and you go, what the f man?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Like, there's another There was another story that he told
that he was on Rogan's podcast and he told this
story about this guy who was like a hunter. He
was deer hunting in Texas. I think Stevensville, Texas might
have been something like that. He was hunting and he
just kind of had his head down to the ground
and he looked up and there was this giant flying
saucer above his head and he put his scope on
(37:02):
it and there were no ridges, no nothing. And so
years later, this guy, this documentarian went there, this guy
James Fox, to do a story on it.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
And while he was.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Talking with this guy to go over and retrace his steps,
a cop pulled him aside, say can I talk to
you over here, and pulled him over to the side,
sat in the diner, looked around and said everything he's
telling you is true. And he said, how do you know?
And he said, because the entire police force saw this thing.
We even used our radar gun to see how fast
it was traveling in the sky. It was going twenty
(37:35):
two miles an hour in the sky, and it was
the size of a department store.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Think they're unbelievable, LaVar. You wouldn't care.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You're out there sitting there getting attacked by bugs in
the Errington mansion and you look up and there's a
flying mall above your head.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
If my own two eyes saw it, that's a different store.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But thinking about all you jagg aloon saying what you're
saying about it out of I don't find it interesting
at all.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
My little man says he saw UFO. Listen, man, they're
out there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Colin is on that ship, that mother ship too. So
is George Clinton of the funk Delica. Yeah, there's a
few of them, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I don't know. You know, I could say what I assume.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
That you guys do in your spare time as to
why y'all be seeing UFOs, But you know, I don't
even want to get got up in all of that.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What else we got, guys.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
The Women's College World Series starts today Oklahoma versus Florida State.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
You guys in a row.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
I'm in, but I know Oklahoma's going to win. About it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Listen, we got the NBA game coming up later on.
The NBA scheduled it properly. I would have been more
in into it, but I'm out. There's too much going on.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, Women's College World Series does it right? Three days
in a row, guys.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
Also, Seahawks wearing throwback uniforms for Week eight versus Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
It I do all care.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, the Seahawks color scheme sucks, and I'm not trying
to piss people off in Seattle, but the old throwbacks
were the best. I would recommend bozing the side of
his head again for that one of those games.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Come on, your unis stunk.
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Good morning to you out there in radio land. Appreciate
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Speaker 5 (01:26):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
LeVar and I were talking waxing poetically about the hypocrisy
of Jymonahan and the PGA Tour joining forces with Live
and look. Jmonahan also addressed the hypocrisy. But let's take
a listen to this gem. This was Jay Monahan yesterday
talking about the importance of the joining of forces of
(01:49):
the PGA Tour and the Live Tour. Here was the
PGA Tour Commission.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It's a historical day for the PGA Tour in the
game of golf, and it's a historical day for the
pr F and the DP World Tour. And you know,
there's been a lot of tension in our sport over
the last couple of years. But what we're talking about
today is coming together to unify the game of golf.
We've recognized that together we can have a far greater
(02:15):
impact on this game than we can working a part.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
And I give Yasser great credit.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
For coming to the table, coming to discussions with an
open heart and an open mind. We did the same
and the game of golf is better for what we've
done here today.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just throw some cash on it, everything's fine.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Just throw us to the game of golf. Is what
you son, MoMA dirty rotten.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So Jeff Ogilvie, who is a golfer from Australia, he
spoke as Jay Monahan, who called this meeting with players
in the PGA Tour, and Jeff Ogilvie spoke afterwards and
just talked about, you know, the hypocrisy and said that
you know, he was called a hypocrite multiple times, that
(03:12):
things got very contentious there, that there was you know,
it was Johnson Wagner, who has won on the PGA
Tour before. He told the Golf Channel that there was
anger in the room. Quote, it was contentious. There were
many moments where certain players were calling for new leadership
of the PGA Tour and even got a couple standing ovations.
(03:33):
So it feels like this is like one of those
big school board meetings where somebody's got an issue with
one of the one of the things that's been implemented
at your schools Now and somebody steps up and says,
we need some better leadership, and they've raised their hand.
This is like like lead to lapse HOA meetings. Yes
that Lee leads and they all make a standing ovation
(03:57):
because everybody wants a Lee out because he can't fix
the leaks that are that are ruining some of the
buildings there in the little community.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They got so yeah, this whole the just the whole.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Idea that this was dropped on the lapse of everybody,
and nobody was like Phil Michelson didn't even really know
about it. Greg Norman, who's you know, running the Live
Tour so to speak, he didn't even really know about it.
Was kind everybody just sort of had this drop on
their lap. And you got guys on the PGA Tour
who were pissed off about it, and then the guys
(04:30):
on the Live Tour like, oh, this has really happened. Sweet,
let's go to Twitter and start taking some victory laps.
It's just the way this stuff was done. Comedy through
and through from the PGA Tour. But a great day
for golf.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
LeVar wonderful day for golf, I guess I mean in
terms of with the purse strings and everything that is
being impacted. And you know what, maybe just maybe this
deal and this merger could actually represent, uh, what we
always say, sports is a microcosm of society and societal issues.
(05:08):
Maybe this is the start of nations mergering too, and
getting rid of their beefs and getting rid of what
they got going on, and just basically saying, listen, it's
the bottom line that matters, and us not being at
odds with one another in the legal system and in
this case, you know, in the world's case, I mean,
(05:29):
and you know, turmoil of war and espionage and spies
and and and just kind of all kinds of infiltration
and all those different things.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Now it can all come to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
We could just all live in peace and and play
golf together, and play sports together, and and eat foods
from different places together, and and and just be cool.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
With one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it's just this will bring world peace.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
This is this is the beginning of it. Jonas Reed.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
If if the PGA and the LIVE can come together,
and that what Rocky said, if I can and you can,
then we all can't.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
You know. Yeah, And the next thing, you know, they
can all live together in peace.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Man and next thing you know, they got to Rocky
five and he's in a street fight with Tom getting
getting his ass beat outside that deli in downtown Shilly. Yeah,
it's uh it just hey man, all right, co uh
(06:34):
go and convince everybody that that we are all good
here and uh and and see what, Like I wonder
who's gonna be the first player from the PGA to
Like Tiger Woods has got enough stroke within golf and
within sports and pop culture and culture in general that
(06:54):
his initial statements I think are going to be the
most anticipated.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like that had a lot to say when they were
approached with the deals, and when these other guys were
taking the deals and they were posted in the social
media posed to them being on the nightclub airplanes that
they were flying on to go to the different events
or whatever. Everybody has something to say. You better say
(07:20):
something now. You better say something now, because if there
is total quiet and no type of opinion or anything
that comes from them, then you know what, Like I mean,
need I say how much credibility? In my mind, the
(07:44):
PGA toard loses the participants that shunned, the people that
chose to live toward to begin with, Like they were
basically being they were basically being condemned. Yeah yeah, I
mean it was nothing short of them being called anti American,
(08:07):
anti patriotic, and now all of a sudden, the PGA
does it. I want to hear the same thing about
the PGA. I want to hear the same thing about
Mahonnah Mahona Mahan. I want to hear the same thing
about all of these people. I want to hear the
same things. And I want to and you know what,
(08:28):
not only do I want to hear the same things,
I want to hear more. I want to hear outrage.
I want to hear I want to hear how does
this happen? I want to I want to hear about
all of the horrible things that the PGA tore, What
what they represent? What what that is based upon them
making this decision. If we don't hear that there's something.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wrong, It's exactly why you should never take shots at somebody,
because there's a real chance you could end up in
that same place that they are. Like I could remember
Aaron Lewis, who was the lead singer for this band
Stained and then he went on to like a country
music career. But there was somebody who screwed up the
(09:09):
Star Spangled banner, They screwed up the national anthem. It
might have been Christina Aguilare or somebody like that.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I remember it was definitely Carl Lewis.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, well, there definitely was Carl Lewis.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Uh, guys, he was trying to be a scene.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Carl Lewis's rendition was so bad people just thought it
was a remix, like, yeah, I guess he's doing something different.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But Aaron Lewis went out on social media when Christina
Aguilere or somebody like that screwed up and missed, you know,
spoke and gave out the wrong lyrics and just buried them,
I mean, took them to pieces for how could you
not know this? This is your country, et cetera, et cetera.
And then like a year later he was doing the
(09:50):
Star Spangled banner and he screwed up and had to
go back and say kind of now I understand, now,
I know, you know I shouldn't you know, I shouldn't
have spoken out the way I did because it could
happen to anybody. Man, if you're some of these golfers
who came out and you did this under the guys
that you were in a place with the PGA Tour
(10:11):
where they would never go down that path. And you
stood out there and you and you called out all
of these guys for taking this money, only to find
out two years later you're all back in the same place,
except they got one hundred million dollars and you got
a bag of crap and a bunch of stuff all
over your face because you stepped in it. And realize
(10:33):
now that you shouldn't have shot your mouth off because
it was all a bunch of garbage the entire time.
Like I would be furious Roy McElroy, all of these guys,
I'd be furious that we were putting this spot to
speak out about it. And did you notice Roy McElroy
hadn't really said a whole lot lately, He had kind
of steered away from it. He was most vocal, and
(10:56):
then somebody asked him about it. I think it was
at the PGA champion Chip, either before the PGA Championship
or during the round, and he just kind of said
something along the lines of, you know, I think the
focus should be on, you know, growing golf and getting
golf into a better spot or something along those lines.
It was really canned answer. And I wonder if he
started to get the vibe that maybe there were some
(11:17):
things that were about to change. I wonder if maybe
he got a feeling that, hey, I should keep my
mouth shut because I don't want to look more foolish
than maybe I already do for calling these guys out.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And that's just and you know what, You're going to
look more foolish for thinking you're gonna not look more
foolish for calling them.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Everybody kept receipts, all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I mean, why wouldn't you, of course, why would you
not in a scenario like this, Why would you not?
Because if you don't come out and have something to
say out your face about how how how hypocritical this
is and that I, by no means any way I
(12:00):
am associated with what took place. I am outraged, I'm disgusted.
In fact, I will not even be participating in PGA
tour events upcoming until I have a better understanding of
what the hell is going on. If you're not coming
out saying that you're, you know what, like you are
(12:24):
what people think you are. Yeah, man, if you're one
of the people that had something to say about all
the other golfers that was going to the Live Tour,
and you were speaking passionately about it. I'm American, Jack, Okay,
you better say something, you better say something.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's just well, what a story, man, what a story?
I mean? And we were thinking, God, what was going.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
To get us through as we wait around ninety five
days for the next game in the NBA Finals, just
like trying to figure out you know, because by the way,
the NBA Finals are tipping off later on tonight, a
Game three is tipping off later on in Miami, but
we played on Sunday. You know, why don't they just
take a couple more days in between?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know, let's just really drag this whole thing. Let's
really stretch out the NBA Finals. See in fact, you
know what they should do to be determined if necessary
a game seven, Like, let's do it like the opening
weekend of the NFL, Like, why don't we just see
if we can stretch this thing out the next three
months and see where we're at at that point? What
are we doing here? Can't you just play every other
day like every other day and have the Stanley Cup
(13:30):
Final be on the game in between and then we
get both of them every single night. This waiting around
crap for the NBA to try and milk whatever they
can as far as publicity and coverage of the NBA Finals,
What do you need to know? You need more time
to break down Game three. It's tied one to one.
Whoever wins this game has a clear advantage in the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Done.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Show is written, story is told. Put that on your
chiron and run at the entire day on ESPN. If
you want to just did all the work for you this.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Shove it up yours. I'm sorry, what's it like?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Okay, do you do?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Would you be a bigger fan if they just ran
it every other day. Let's just go.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's like, it doesn't take that long to get from
Denver to Miami. Let's go like every other day, bang
bang bang, and then we're done, right, But they can't
do it, got to drag it out annoying?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yeah, well there you go, NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is, by the way.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I'm excited to see the game though, yeah, I mean
it is.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I'm very curious because I just was not certain that
that the Heat could win a game in this series,
and and lo and behold you know they've been given
some hope and now there there's a series.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And you got the Denver Nuggets who are two and
a half point favorite in this game in Miami after
that disappointing finish to Game two of that series, and
I gut feeling, if you just went by.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Your gut feeling, tell me the gut feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I think the Nuggets are gonna whoop that ass tonight.
That's what I think. I think Mike Malone was pissed.
I think he was furious at his team and he's
probably gonna throw on every Celtics loss to the Miami
Heat and say, this is what arrogance against this team
that doesn't give a rip about where they're seeded in
the NBA playoffs gets you. You lose games like this,
(15:21):
and if they get hot from three, they'll figure out
a way to make baskets late.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's why they're so good late in games.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And if i'm the Denver Nuggets, get out to a
lead early, shut that crowd up, and send everybody to
the Cleveland or by the third quarter so that you
can get this win and move on and try and
take care of business in Game four, which is probably
going to be sometime in August. The way this NBA
Final scheduling is gone. So the way I look at it, well,
(15:47):
what's your gut.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
My gut says we should take a break, and.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Also that maybe winning for one of these teams will
take a break this evening as well.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yes, that is a that's what tells me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's a fair point. It is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Nobody previews
the NBA Finals like this show here from the tiraq
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:35):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on FSR,
twenty minutes from now, we are going to tell you
about one of the mysteries, one of the great mysteries
in all the world, that may have just been solved.
So we'll get into that for you about twenty minutes
from now here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now
we turn it over to the old Pe Petros Papadakas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
(16:56):
which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven
e LA Sports. He's also a Fox College football analyst
and you can get him on Twitter at the old p.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Good morning, Pee, what's happening Forget about me? What's the mystery?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You gotta stick around and find out. I can't come on.
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'll text it to you, but everybody else listening has to.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Am I going to be impressed or completely and totally
let down?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, I don't want to tell you you are going
to be totally let down.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh come on, this is p Come on Petros.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Yeah, exactly, thank you. I cannot I cannot be fooled.
I cannot be I'll tell you that cannot be bamboozled
into thinking that Prince Harry is some kind of warrior
prince taking on the media.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I will say this, you were fooled by the PGA.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Have about that a trip?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
How about golf popping up on the headlines here?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
In the middle of waiting around for Game three the
NBA Finals, P I know you love you some golf,
you know what, guy?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
I think what was interesting is and you don't see
much of this anymore in our day and age. I
guess you do with a trade or something like that
in a major pro sport that nobody saw coming. I
mean I always think about the pau Gasol trade that
(18:20):
just kind of happened and hit everybody upside the head.
It was a little bit before social media was super prevalent,
but it is really hard to pull anything off without
it leaking. And the fact that this just hit everybody
in the head like an anvil and a cartoon yesterday,
not that everybody and I got a lot of texts like, yeah,
(18:42):
this is great and it's interesting, but I don't care
about golf. I don't want to say I don't care
about golf. I certainly care more than I used to.
I understand the sport and why it's super super hard,
the pressure and the culture of it, and it's a
(19:03):
country clip sport that a lot of us have a
hard time relating to. But this is crazy. I mean,
this is literally people's bosses for years telling them not
to take one hundred million dollar pay day because they
have a moral high ground or whatever. And then your
(19:26):
bosses take the one hundred million dollar pay day and
you're just expected to swallow it. And there's going to
be if you're one of those PGA guys that was
running around talking about evil Saudi's and killing the media
and all of these terrible things that you would link
in with with Saudi money. Of course you don't bother
(19:48):
checking everybody else that you are a patron of that
takes money from all kinds of different, very very questionable
regimes around the country, including our own questionable crap. So
it really, it really becomes a meyer of a thing.
But it's literally like somebody telling you you can't take
(20:08):
this blood money and then turning around weeks, months, a
year or so later and taking the blood money. That's
got to be pretty tough to swallow if you're one
of those PGA guys. And I guess there's gonna be
a lot of bad blood for a long time, but
(20:28):
there's gonna be a lot more money, and that's going
to be something to excite people that are golfers. But
they have a lot of logistical stuff to figure out.
I mean a lot. They got to move mountains, so
good luck. I guess they'll tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Uh, Petri's I gotta because you feel like in lebarn
I were talking, we think that you would be the
guy to ask when it comes to this. So these
seven to eight hundred million dollars whatever the number was
that was offered to Tiger Woods that he could have got,
correct from Live Golf had he taken the deal. Could
his ex wife have gotten any of that?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I don't know afterward?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying, Like because if
it's post divorce and he earned it after they were together,
like he would have gotten to keep all of that.
That really would have made up for a lot of
the income he lost.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I mean you're talking about two sets of gigantic lawyer groups. Yeah,
that would be working on that yea and Macro money.
And I think LeVar, I mean, you understand this more
than most of us. When it comes to the NFL
or lucrative sports where people are making a bunch of money.
(21:39):
You got your Tom Brady's and your Aaron Rodgers of
the world. They are the exception, and I think golf
is the same. I mean, the guys that are really
getting screwed here are not Tiger Woods, who who could
lose a half a billion dollars and not lose anything probably,
(21:59):
but these guys that turned down ten million, fifty million,
a lot of money that is not going to be
available anymore, only to have the entity they were working
for turn around and tell them, hey, it's okay to
do something we told you was a completely morally bankrupt move.
(22:21):
That is tough that for guys. And we were talking
to we're really lucky to have Gary McCord on yesterday right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
When it broke.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
We we have a relationship, I guess with Gary McCord,
And he came on and was talking about it, and
he said, they might have to take, you know, a
couple hundred million dollars into some kind of slush fund
or retirement fund or some kind of pension for a.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Lot of these guys.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
For the young guys, obviously, it wouldn't or the guys
that don't make a bunch of money. It wouldn't make
the biggest difference for the top fifteen to twenty whatever guys,
but all the other guys probably deserve some kind of
compensation or something for their loyalty. But they got a
lot to figure out. And I am not that guy.
I mean, my wife pays the bills around here.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, I wonder if they have any type of
legal action that they could take if they cost it
themselves millions of dollars.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
The people who took the deals to begin with with
the live or will continue to be be monetized by
Live the way that they were for taking the risk
of doing it.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I don't I mean, I think these contracts are contracts, right,
and they probably have to pay them out regardless.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I mean, I'm still trying to figure out the nil
thing where somebody says, the guy's getting ten million dollars,
But what if he transfers, what if he gets hurt? Right,
what if the circumstances change? Right, We don't know how
these guys get paid in the nil. I mean, you
want to talk about something murky, I mean, that is
murky and that has got something even I was talking
(24:08):
to a pro football coach just two three days ago
and he was like, yeah, we have no idea how
that works, Like none of us do.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Nobody has any idea.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
And the coaches aren't really telling you at the college
level how it works.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
This I think, I mean, that's not a good example.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
Just I made the example to say that structure is
probably a lot more confusing than just a standard contract
that you signed with a company. Even though the company
is like a Saudi company that is like bleeding oil
and money. I think it still stands to reason that
(24:46):
you get paid. I mean, Phil Mickelson, what did he
what was it like one hundred million dollars? Yeah, something
like that. Yeah, they're gonna pay They're gonna pay them
one hundred million dollars. And if not, like LeVar said,
there's probably gonna be some kind of lawyers figuring it
all out. I mean, the billable hours from law firms
for this merger go up a little bit, a little bit,
(25:07):
and you know what that starve if you need any
representation on the live in PGA merger.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Those those stores, those those snow stores about us.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
You know Sweet James's new number, Sweet James the dense
beard adjustment. And my lawyer, yeah, eight hundred nine million.
That's one eight hundred nine zero zero zero zero zero
zero cent center.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But I I really I.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Don't know what well I'm too stupid to understand, uh,
this kind of thing. But there's a lot more money
involved now, and I guess it's a it's a huge,
huge endeavor and golfers everywhere are going to have something
to say, not just golfers, probably politics and and all
(25:56):
that stuff. But it is amazing where you say, well,
everybody's got a price, and you say, well, you know
not what it comes to doing business with so and so,
and then I just rewinded Lebron James telling us that
we don't know what's going on in China and shut up.
It's like, come on, dude, you know. The money's the money,
and people are gonna take it, and they're going to
find ways to do verbal and emotional and mental gymnastics
(26:21):
to get out of questions that they're asked about it.
And look, I never had some huge, fiery reason to
not like live golf. I would probably find it very
hard to find. It's on the same network that the
PAC twelve is probably headed to the Dancing Frog and
the CW or Hello my Baby, Hello my Darland, Hello
(26:45):
my rag Time. So you know, I don't really have
a dog in this fight, but it is interesting when
people are really really preachy, really preachy, and then they
just turn around and the DL anyway, I mean, what
is Rory McElroy gonna say, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Got Well, it's funny that he's he's all of a
sudden gotten quiet in recent weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I wonder if he sort of anticipated something.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Gary McCord told us that he told us, you know,
they must have. They had to go around to about
six or seven of these golfers and be.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Like, hey, we're really sorry about this, but you know
that hundred million you turned down?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh yeah, in a bit of a pike, like it's
just yeah, it is. It is hilarious. I was actually
thinking about this too. Uh, when it comes to just
a lesson learned in all of this that everybody's a hypocrite,
and so when you condemned somebody for the way they
(27:46):
do business, if you look deep enough, you could probably
find something wrong with them. And the most recent one
was like when Nick Saban called out jimbo Fisher for
the nil and his recruiting and all that stuff, and
it was like Jim Jimbo Fisher's first reaction was, oh,
I know stuff about you if you want to go there,
like I got stuff on you, and it's like like
all of these guys that were reprimanding these golfers for
(28:09):
taking the money and all of this stuff and standing
on this soapbox, and as it turns out, everybody's full
of crap, like you're just a hypocrite. And that's why
lesson learn don't throw stones. Because everybody probably lives in
a glasshouse, or at least has some part of their house.
It's built by glass that you could break easily if
(28:29):
you really wanted to look hard enough and throw something
at it.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I mean, if yeah, if you break it down.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I mean, all you really got to do is look
at your phone, right, Yes, who built your phone?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah? All right?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
I mean it goes that far in today's day and age,
and we're all just trying to live in the world.
I mean, we're all just trying to get through the
day the moments without your wife yelling at you or
whatever it is you're scared of. And it is interesting
though that this came to fruition, the way came to fruition.
(29:01):
And I don't know, maybe I'm just older now, but
when I was younger, it was a little bit harder
to just strip the skin off and find the blatant hypocrisy.
Now it's almost like people don't they don't care, right
because we're so inundated.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I didn't mean for this to become such a heavy conversation,
but no.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
There's that type of conversation.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
We're so deeply inundated with information right Like there. It
used to be like you think about sitting around with
your friends back in the day and the stuff he
used to talk about and the stuff you used to
convince each other was right, and ninety five percent of
it was dead wrong. I mean, now we have Wikipedia
(29:46):
and you're like, damn, you know, I've been spreading lies
for my whole life, you know, like you know, a
lot of information is so readily available to us. We're
so saturated in it that it almost doesn't mean as
much as it used to. You know, being right or
wrong or having the moral high ground is not it's
not stable anymore. It's not like you're standing on a rock.
(30:10):
It's like you're standing on the sand and it's constantly
moving because the information is constantly coming at us. It's like,
you know, when the coaches say, well, it's a first
week of camp and we're installing, and it's like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Drinking out of a fire hose.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
That's that's kind of like what this is.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
You know, it's like every day we wake up and
we and you know, we're we're all radio hosts, so
we look at the news and we're involved in the news,
and we live in the twenty four hour media.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
But there's just so much all day every day.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
It's almost like you've come all the way around to
the other side and there's nothing, So you don't you know,
you don't really you're not affected by the news. Oh
there's another shooting, All right, where's my combucha? You know,
it's it's uh, it's it's just id problem. I do
feel like and we have too much information and it
(31:06):
doesn't affect us like it used to. So, you know,
people they say, well, let's take this hit. We'll take
the money, we'll take the hit, We'll take the four
or five day or fifty day or whatever it is
pr hit, and eventually it will blow over and we
will we will be rich.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
That's I think that's a big part of this, or
at least some part of it, is just we don't
have a gauge on how impactful information is anymore. Because
we're constantly living in it. I mean, sports talk radio
itself used to be just informational. The guys that did
sports talk radio were guys that knew the starting lineup
(31:49):
of the Kansas City Royals, and they lived in New York.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Hack saws headlines, right.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Because that was the only information you could get about
the sports world between the newspapers coming out and maybe
the evening news. So you know, and that's changed. All
the everything is on everybody's phone at the same time.
So what do you have to do in sports talk radio?
Maybe be a little bit more entertaining and things like that.
(32:14):
It's a it's a confusing thing to navigate. And good
luck to all the golfers at the country club drinking.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Their momoses at a place called the nineteen.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
One d and forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Polo that stretches, that resists sweat.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Travis matthew Is Get him on Twitter at the old
pe Petros Papa Day Giz. He is the co host
of the Petros Money Show on AM five to seventy
LA Sports. He's a Fox College football analyst and he's
our buddy every Wednesday here on the show.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Pee.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
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Speaker 10 (34:47):
Big news in the world of UFOs. Those who are
believers that there's were, there's those amongst us.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
Former intelligence officer David Grush come out and quote unquote
confirmed that the government has intact UFOs in their possession,
along with bodies of extraterrestrials.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
About that Lamar, More and more people coming out, people
that have knowledge of the situation, who are acknowledging that
UFOs do exist. We've got videos that have come out
all of a sudden during COVID. They thought everybody was
looking the other way, or they had a mask that
had slipped up over their eyes and they weren't going
(35:33):
to see these videos. And now we're getting more and
more proof that this stuff is real.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Man, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
What do you mean, you don't care?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
We're still finding species on Earth that were unidentified, Like
who cares?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So okay, what would you rather?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Would you rather see a flying ill come out of
the sky, Like, oh, what is that? That's that's an alien.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
So, which, by the way, unidentified aerial phenomenon, not UFOs anymore.
But this task force by the government also studies vehicles
in the seat, unidentified vehicles in the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Sea vehicles yep, so UFOs and the seat and the
ocean and the water.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Correct.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Yeah, I'm all the way out on this.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm telling you, man, moment of contact. I told you
guys that that documentary by James Fox, he put out
phenomenal stuff about a crash landing and a recovery in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Unbelievable. You watch that and you go, what the f man?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Like, there's another There was another story that he told
that he was on Rogan's podcast and he told this
story about this guy who was like a hunter. He
was deer hunting in Texas. I think Stevensville, Texas might
have been something like that. He was hunting and he
just kind of had his head down to the ground
and he looked up and there was this giant flying
saucer above his head and he put his scope on
(37:02):
it and there were no ridges, no nothing. And so
years later, this guy, this documentarian went there, this guy
James Fox, to do a story on it.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
And while he was.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Talking with this guy to go over and retrace his steps,
a cop pulled him aside, say can I talk to
you over here, and pulled him over to the side,
sat in the diner, looked around and said everything he's
telling you is true. And he said, how do you know?
And he said, because the entire police force saw this thing.
We even used our radar gun to see how fast
it was traveling in the sky. It was going twenty
(37:35):
two miles an hour in the sky, and it was
the size of a department store.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Think they're unbelievable, LaVar. You wouldn't care.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You're out there sitting there getting attacked by bugs in
the Errington mansion and you look up and there's a
flying mall above your head.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
If my own two eyes saw it, that's a different store.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But thinking about all you jagg aloon saying what you're
saying about it out of I don't find it interesting
at all.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
My little man says he saw UFO. Listen, man, they're
out there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Colin is on that ship, that mother ship too. So
is George Clinton of the funk Delica. Yeah, there's a
few of them, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I don't know. You know, I could say what I assume.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
That you guys do in your spare time as to
why y'all be seeing UFOs, But you know, I don't
even want to get got up in all of that.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What else we got, guys.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
The Women's College World Series starts today Oklahoma versus Florida State.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
You guys in a row.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
I'm in, but I know Oklahoma's going to win. About it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Listen, we got the NBA game coming up later on.
The NBA scheduled it properly. I would have been more
in into it, but I'm out. There's too much going on.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, Women's College World Series does it right? Three days
in a row, guys.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
Also, Seahawks wearing throwback uniforms for Week eight versus Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
It I do all care.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, the Seahawks color scheme sucks, and I'm not trying
to piss people off in Seattle, but the old throwbacks
were the best. I would recommend bozing the side of
his head again for that one of those games.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Come on, your unis stunk.
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