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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, I don't care, I'd be probably oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, just some random tweezers around the floor here in
the studio. That's interesting. What's going on around here?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know you talk about the AGAs out there? Maneezers
not quite share tweezers, not quite sure. But it is
the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. It's Labarre and
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And thanks Colin show here on all of our Fox
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you all the way up until noon Pacific time three
o'clock Eastern time. And of course, the big topic of
conversation today around the world of sports. Topic is uh
that giant circus tent that they put up in the
Bay Area and decided to throw on some NBA events
and call that an All Star weekend, which people were
not thrilled with.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I mean, are we called is it shade? Are we
throwing shade at All Star weekend? Or is it really warranted?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
You know?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
I mean it sucked.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Like here's here's how I look at because we're gonna
hear from you know, Draymond Greenhead comments Charles Barkley pointed
some fingers. This is how I look at all Star games.
There's there's a reason why the Major League Baseball All
Star Game is the best all Star game of the bunch,
because it's the one that most closely resembles what the
actual product is. It's like when somebody tells you a
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man that that band's really good live. They're saying that
because they sound close to what they sound like on
the album.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Not a doctored up version like oh like hurt them
in person, like they sounded.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Horrible because they're not doing things like some musical acts
will do things in studio that they can't replicate lives us.
When you go and see them live, it just doesn't
look the same. And it's like the NBA, the NFL,
a lot of these All Star games they present a
product that they can't do live at an All Star event,
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and that's why it looks less than we're Major League Baseball.
What they sound like on the album is exactly what
they look like in the All Star Game, and that's
why people like it and prefer that over the other
they all Star events, because it feels like an actual game.
He can't do that in the NFL when you could
if you were Sean Taylor and you wanted to wipe
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out a punter in a Pro Bowl like you played
it in three different Pro Bowls. Yeah, I was out
there playing for keeps. I mean, it did look a
lot different than it does now, and it just feels
like they're presenting us a product that doesn't look anything
like you would normally see. And my big issue with
it is just the timing of it. I accept the
fact that All Star games buy and large are terrible,
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but why would you let this be your first weekend
without the NFL as your first representation of the sport.
That doesn't make any sense. Dang it doesn't. It's pretty damning,
you know.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
And I'll just say this because I know we want
to bounce off of the bounce off of the sound
bites Joe. Its less like I want to hear what
obviously what we had people listen to earlier with Draymond,
But then what we didn't do in the first two
hours that we're going to do here is listen to
what Charles Barkley had to say in respond to it,
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and then I'm I'm gonna react off of that because
I'm in alignment with what you're saying. I just feel
like there's a disconnect there in terms of the fan base,
the fans and what it is that they're looking for
the personalities. But I mean, I'm not gonna throw shade
out until y'all hear the shade come from internal. This
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is what Draymond had to say about it.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
You work all year to be an All Star and
you get to play up to forty and then you're done.
This is so unfair to Victor Winberyama, who just took
this game really seriously, Shake Gilger Alexander, who just took
this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing out
to the points, Wreckers, Mello and Kobe and all these
guys who've had great staring knights, they don't get the
opportunity to do that with this game, also we can
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watch some rising stars. We're about to watch the Olympic team.
Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team
play against the U nineteen team. Come on, what are
we doing?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
One to ten? Your thoughts of the format ten being
the best? Yes, let's see what sucks.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Well, here's what Charles Barkley here, here's what Charles Barkley
had to say in response to what well, what Draymond
had to say.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
I'm a gonna disagree with Draymond a lot.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
You know.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
I use the analogy like when your kids mess up
the house, you make them clean it up, and they complain,
and they messed the game up. That's why we're trying
to Kamakazi stuff out here right now. So his generation
messed the game up. So they'll act like, get mad
because they trying to use rookies and are we doing
every type of trick to make this weekend exciting?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Don't be trying to use rookies Kamakazi stuff. What he's
basically saying is the stars, the legends of the game
were a part of All Star Weekend, and you got
to know these players. You got to know who Charles
Barkley was you got to know who I mean, even
move a step forward, like I used older and older
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generation early on to represent. I talked about the Pistons,
talked about the Knicks and and and the Rockets. Let's
move up a little bit closer to you know, the
generation that was right before Draymond and all of them,
with with Kobe and with Anthony Hardaway and.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
With Shaquille O'Neill and all those guys. You got an
opportunity to get to know the players and who they
were and these bigger, larger than life personalities of people.
I mean, we ain't here y'ao mean say three four words, hi, bye,
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good damn. We knew who y'ao mean was. Though we
related to Yaoming. We was cool with yaomen No kind
of sort of kind of sort of you know, if.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
You were a Rockets fan, you you rocked with him
Man and Tracy McGrady.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Were you in DC with either George mure sahim a
new Bowl. I'm younger than that, bro, Thank you George.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Right before I got here, it was in the what
the late nineties, the mid nineties career I didn't get
I got to DC in two thousand, like he was
probably there mid nineties, I would I would say mid nineties, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Bowl, like when New Bowl.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I was in like middle school probably, Like God, you
try to make me old. I was there when Michael
Jordan was there. That's when I was in in DC.
I was there with Jordan's rip. Hambleton was there, guys
like that. Who else was there? The big dude from
North Carolina while am I blinking on his name Montros
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not Montrosse, the opposite end of the spectrum, but he
was a tall Heyward Brendan Hayward was there. Yeah, Kwame
Brown had got drafted while I was there. Pop Eye
Jones was there while I was there. Yeah, you know
there's some dudes there. But I'm just saying this new generation,
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I'm totally on with what Charles Barkley said, when you
don't have your your big guns coming out and making
the All Star Game a priority, making the dunk contest
a priority, making the three point contest a priority when
you don't see the big guns doing it with.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
The other guys. Can the underdog win or can can
can Lebron James win it? Can Can he go out
and win the dunk contest? He's deferred for years and
years and years guys that were big time players. Imagine
Vince Carter saying, I don't want to do the dunk contests.
Imagine that. By the way, Vince Carter was a great
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player for a long time, but he is known for
dunk contest. Okay, like great play, but like Hall of Fame. Yes,
same with Dominique Wilber's. Like, if you want to know
how good Vince Carter was, I was at the I
went to that. You know how many You know how
hot that ticket was when they said Vince Carter is
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doing the dunk contest this year. Everybody went because curiously
it was in San Francisco. It was it was on
the West coast, different looking, different looking time back then,
you know from what I hear, bro Bro and everybody
was there. That's where I first met Kevin Garnett, I met,
I met somebody. I met rit Man and method Man
I met. So it was such a spectacle. I don't
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know if it's still like that now, well, because you could.
And the point on Vince Carter and Dominique Wilkins and
guys like that is those without the dunk contest, those
are probably Hall of Fame players, like those are Hall
of Famer players. That's the point. Yeah, you bring your
big guns, so then you throw the dunk contest on
top of it, and it made them superstars. Like the
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Human Highlight.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Reel You're trying to figure out out who's going to
win you was actually, if people remember it, you were
choosing sides.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Are you team Dominic or are you team Mike? You
were choosing sides. It wasn't just oh, Michael Jordan, Michael
Jordan might no, man, it was like I'm Human Highlight film.
Dominique was my favorite dunker of all time. Bro.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He used to dunk so hard, jumping off two feet
Bro that double that double feet with jee. Oh my gosh, Bro,
it was so explosive. Pause you know what I mean. Like,
but Mike just had everybody flying with him. You gotta
give Mike credit for carrying like like we say, lebron
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is carry out, okay, but Mike was really like building
fans in different like come Fly. They had a special
on VHS cassette that you could buy.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's it Come Fly with Mike. And you're watching dunk contests.
You're singularly watching an event take place. Because of the
impact that Michael Jordan was having on you as a
person and as a family. You don't have name a
player that has that impact now, and it ain't even Lebron.
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Lebron Listen, Lebron is a big time guy, big time influence.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I get it. He's not influencing the NBA to the
fan base the way that Michael Jordan did when he
was playing. I think that might play a large part
in it as well. Well.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
If you were not a fan of the All Star
Weekend and get in line, I'm not sure many people
that were. There could be some changes happening this according
to Ryan Glaspiegel, a front office sports who said the
following next season, NBC takes over from TNT for the
All Star Weekend. There are three big changes that could
be coming for the All Star Weekend. Number one, earlier
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Star time five pm Eastern Time from where it's at now,
which is a PM Eastern time. Next year's All Star
weekend is right in the middle of the Winter Olympic
in Italy, so most of the Olympic events would be
over by five Eastern time. There's also the thought of
a one on one tournament with a potential one million
dollar prize and stars in the Dunk Contest. So this
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feels like the NBA has seen Okay, we really do
have a problem here, Like we've tried everything. We've tried
to push this off and change it and manipulate it
and put it at this time and you know, have
these get this year felt like this was a really
big whiff and a big miss by the NBA. And
at least next year they're looking at it going, all right,
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let's make some changes, like a one on one tournament
for a million dollars. Okay, that's fun. I mean it
creates betting opportunities, right, betting odds. I mean that one
on one stuff that was going on with the women.
I liked it. It was kind of it was pretty cool.
I'll say this. And I'm not even trying to fan
boy it up for Fox. I'm not, like, legitimately. I
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watched Daytona yesterday. It was fantastic. The Daytona five hundred
was fantastic. And even that in comparison, like, you know,
they're doing the four Nations face off in hockey and
you've got you know, guys throwing down, you know, trying
to you know, trying to win it for their country
and all that. It just there were other events that
were taking place that felt so much bigger than what
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the NBA was doing. It just there's a lot going on.
They're throwing different things at you, and it's really hard
to look at that and go, oh, yeah, I want
to come back for seconds. Like there's just no there's
there's nothing to it that I that I look at
after this weekend and think, oh, well, that's a bright
spot for the league. I just I think they missed
big time this weekend. But at least Steph Curry won
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one MVP of the game for what it's work. Well,
there you go, yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, if you had a one on one tournament take
place for a million dollars, I just don't think that
it's fair, don't. I don't think that it's fair because
how do you you expect a smaller guy to be
able to beat a bigger guy.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Maybe you have to have brackets, you know what they
should do it?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Well, you have to have big man versus big man,
and then like guards versus guards.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Just have like Victor webbinan Wemby versus I don't like
Peter dinklice do like a celebrity like one on one
contest you could have, Like, there's all sorts of stuff
you could do, you could have. I wonder if Lebron
would be up for a one on one like him
versus Steph God doubt it him versus Steph Curry for
a million dollars one on one.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Well, he is scared to lose playing doing Dunk's he
gonna be he ain't gonna want to deal with on
one on one?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Now? Is that is that confirmed? Or is that just
the assumption that because he never participated, did he ever
come out and say I was scared to lose.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Come out and say that, Yeah, but you can read
between the lines, just why would you not go out
there and don't right like you're the you're arguably the
greatest in the game, and we're talking in this prime
when he was like explosive pause, Lebron James like, why
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would why wouldn't you go out there and give people
more reasons to say this is why you're better than
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I could guarantee you he was his athletic ability at
a certain point in time, you would have been able
to look at the way he was knunking the ball,
and you'd have been like, man, like, I know MJ
was getting up and come fly with me and all,
but that dang Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Is taking a freak. He's a freak. But he didn't
do it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but there you go.
Multiple times. At least he did show up to let
everybody know he would not be participating this year.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
So that was showing up not to participate, right, I will,
I will not be putting a uniform on. I will
not be doing anything of the physical nature. Yeah, I
got some I got some ankle and some foot injuries
as just some discomfort, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I'll do while I'm here. I'll let you guys all
know I'm here. So uh so there's that. So congratulations
of the Yeah, n I know, I don't hate Lebron.
Don't hate Lebron. Le Bron does everything for the game.
Man take away Lebron. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Like Jason Whitlock keeps saying that women's basketball is going
to get more important, more popular than than men's men's basketball, Like,
give give Lebron some props for keeping uh you know,
NBA still relevant right now?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
What Luck's had some interesting commentary recently, A little bit.
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Speaker 4 (18:02):
So LaVar Arrington, Hi, your guy, Okay, Russell Wilson, that's
my guy. Apparently he's gonna have some options should the
Pittsburgh Steelers move on from RUSS should they? According to
Jeremy Fowler of espnuh, the Raiders do make some sense
from the standpoint of there's reports in him and p
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Carroll of mended fences. But that team to watch is
also the Giants. Okay. Potentially the New York Giants could
be one of the landing spots for Russell Wilson, which
would make sense from the standpoint of when he went
to Pittsburgh last year, the other team that he met
with for sure was the Giants, because I think he did.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
He like the market, he wanted to go into, like
a major, major market from what I could gather.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And he settled for Are you saying he settled for Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh,
I know New York. That's for sirch who does a
better steak Pittsburgh New York based off I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I'm sure Pittsburgh will want but New York would certainly
have some great eateries that that would have great steak.
So I mean, I don't think you could go wrong.
But if we're going pound for pound, I bet you
Pittsburgh has a place there where it's better. But I'm biased.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
The Giants make sense. I still think the Raiders make
the most sense. I just don't think he's gonna be
I don't think he's going to be back in Pittsburgh.
I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I don't think he's back in Pittsburgh, even though he
makes the most sense for Pittsburgh. I think that Pittsburgh
is now finding themselves and what would be considered to
be a volatile state in terms of what they're going
to do for next year. If Justin Fields is your
your loan starter and you're you better, you better be
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looking at another free agent to bring in there. Otherwise,
you know, I think this puts puts Mike Mike Tomlin
in a very compromising situation. Now as far as Russ,
and I have to say definitely, definitely Russ is in
a compromising situation because I don't think either one of
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those teams. I mean, I would say New York would
be maybe the closest to being in position to possibly
be competitive and win, but I think both of them are.
I mean, they're tremendous risk and obviously he's not going
to go to a team where he's probably going to
be a backup or not have the opportunity to start
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and have success. But I just don't look at any
of these teams as I think that's a tremendous risk.
You're taking a tremendous risk on going to one of
those teams, which I mean, you may not have any
other choice, But I just think that going to one
of those teams, which I mean, does Russell Wilson make
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any one of those teams definitively better? And what their
circumstances are going into the season.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's a no. Yeah, I mean it's a no. It's definitely.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Know.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It felt like it ended weirdly in Pittsburgh, like there
was a point there to where it was, oh, they've
got their quarterback, Like they finally got their guy. And
I was early. That was when I first came back
and we were having the discussion, Oh, now that's why.
Now we know why they waited to give him an
opportunity and didn't just make Justin Fields the starter when
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they were foreign too, because there was a dynamic to
his role in the offense to where he could throw
the ball downfield. He was better at that than Justin Fields.
And then the final five games of the season happened
off a cliffs.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, I don't know why is that? Again, I don't
put this all on Russ.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I do not experiment on because the defense has not
been what it has usually been, the staple that it
represents for the Steelers. They have not been that.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
They were not that dominant this year, and so I
don't put all of that on Russ. But with that
being said, it it's still gonna fall at the feet
of Russ and Tomlin, Like, that's who you're going to
look at. He wasn't good enough. That's what you're going
to blame it on. The play calling was better, but
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it wasn't good enough. You're gonna blame it on Pickings
being a malecontent. There wasn't good enough. There was just
a lot of things that you have questions about in
terms of where does this team go looking forward, And
a lot of it is not based off of Russ
because whatever quarterback you put in that starting position is
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going to have to deal with the same exact complications
that Russ did this season, the same exact complications justin
Fields had to deal with during the course of this season,
You're going to have to deal with.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
That's why the Rogers to Pittsburgh. Everyone's saying, oh, that
makes the most sense. No, really, I don't think so.
I don't think so. I don't either.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I don't think that makes any sense other than like,
talent wise, sure, he can make a difference. I think
he can make them a better team talent wise, But
the way some of these guys go about their business, Like,
what does Pittsburgh really have the offer to Aaron Rodgers
at this point in his career. Is that worth the risk?
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You got a Moody, You got a Moody number one receiver,
you got you got a running back. I mean, I
don't even know if they're bringing nause back, but I mean,
he's he gives you what he's got, but he just
hasn't panned out to be one of the most elite backs.
So you're not you know, he's solid, he's solid, but
you know he's not He's not a game changer.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I when you just look at that division, they're in trouble. Well,
if I were to tell you you're in trouble, like
are they? Could you see them competing for a super Bowl?
If you just went team by team of the division.
Obviously Cleveland would be no. Because they've got an albatross
locked up in a weirdo at quarterback and and that's
that's just that, that's where they're gonna be at, you know,
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for the next foreseeable future. Baltimore always feels like a
threat and Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Baltimore is gonna make it hard for you, and then
they're just gonna come up short. Yeah, but they're gonna
make it hard for you. Like it's it's they're still
going to determine like you're gonna you might miss as
a wildcart because they're either going to win the division
or or they're gonna be that wildcard team out of
that division.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But there's a threat there at least like you when
when you see Baltimore, it's like, okay, you got to
deal with the most dynamic player in the league, and
Derrick Henry's there, Like there's there's the threat that Baltimore
could make the.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Best they're the better, they're the best team in the
AFC North. Cincinnati is a wildcart because it could go
either way if Hendrickson gets away or you know, you're
not the same team when you you let.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Up who's out of the receiver. We've got an update
on that, by the way.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Okay, if he at which I would assume they're not
going to sign him.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Back, well, well we will see.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
If they signed him back and they if they bring
back this same team, then you got a discussion for
who's the best team in the AFC North.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But both of those teams, Baltimore and Cincinnati, feel like
it would not surprise me if they made a Super Bowl.
They're trending up. Pittsburgh just feels flat I.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Don't know, you're not, You're there's only there is no
middle ground. You're either getting better or you're getting worse.
I mean, that's the bottom line. You're either getting better
or you're getting worse. And you can't say that Pittsburgh's
getting better. They can't say they've gotten better, so that
means they're getting worse.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
It just feels like there's something that's not the same
between them and Cincinnati, and yet one team made the
playoffs and the other didn't like it. Just Cincinnati has
gotten a ceiling. I think that goes towards Cincinnati. Tomlin
is able to do as a coach. Cincinnati's got a
ceiling that Pittsburgh can't reach except currently. Yeah, I agree,
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And so it just feels like that's kind of.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
And the biggest thing is they're two things, their quarterback
situation and.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Their defense. Their defense has to be better. So this
is the update on the t Higgins situation. This according
to James Rapine. By the way, James Repine former intern
here at Fox Sports Radio in Cincinnati with Andy Furman
and Artrell Hawkins, but James, who covers the Bengals for
Sports Illustrated and SI dot Com said that the Bengals
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plan on placing the non exclusive franchise tag on T.
Higgins for a second straight season. League sources have confirmed
the tag window officially opens on Tuesday, February eighteenth, so
tomorrow at one pm Eastern Time at last until Tuesday,
March fourth at four pm Eastern time. Sources say that
Higgins camp expects to get tagged at this point, he
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would be the top free agent if he were to
make it to free agency. That isn't expected to happen.
The Bengals will tag Higgins by the March fourth deadline,
And so if you were wondering whether or not T.
Higgins would get a get a bigger deal in the market,
at least at this point, it looks like they're going
to tag him and try and figure out if they
can do something long term. Do you think somebody swoops
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in and gives T. Higgins?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
There are teams out there that need a one receiver,
and I'm thinking, just right off the top of my head,
Green Bay is one. Green Bay is one of those teams.
I mean, there are teams out there that knee receivers.
So does he get swooped up and they get the
opportunity to match.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
So Rapine points out in the article that well, last
year there was no intention for them to sign him
long term. It does feel like there's momentum and that
the team is interested in signing him to a long
term deal, that there's more of a possibility of that
happening this year than last year. He changed agents. He
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parted ways with your guy David mullagedto in December, so
he's no longer with him. That's what I was changing intagents,
and and so now taking selfies with SHUILG. Knight, I mean,
you know, now at least the Bengals have have let
everybody know, don't go flirting like we would like to
work out a long term deal. Niggah, But you put.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
On then if you say don't go flirting, all you're
really trying to do right now is hope that nobody
takes the price tag up that you're planning on on
offering to him by basically saying, we're going to give
you this franchise tag. If nobody matches it, then we're
you see that you're most valuable with us, right like
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your most valuable as a Cincinnati Bengal. So let's get
a deal done, and let's be reasonable about the deal
versus if you put on are you you're you are
able to do an exclusive franchise tag? Right, yeah, So
if you do that exclusive franchise tag, you're locked into
the fact that this guy's going to get that average
and you're you're still able to do the same exact thing,
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which is work on doing a deal with that player.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Right. So a team could negotiate a long term deal
with him, but it would cost them two first round
picks if the Bengals didn't match the cups, So they're
not gonna know.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
The point I'm saying is nobody's going to match the offer.
So with that being said, it gives Cincinnati the upper
hand on negotiating long term contract with Higgins.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
And by the way, if some team did want to
fork up two first round picks, Cincinnati would gladly do
that deal to first for t Higgins sign us up.
It's not happening. So he's going to be in Cincinnati,
whether he you know, sticks with the tag or he uh,
you know, he moves on, or they get a long
term deal done, He's going to be there, which is Look,
Joe Burrow has has come out and said publicly over
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and over again and called out the organization. We need
to do this. We've got to We've got the talent
that's here. You don't want to make it a habit
of letting top name free agents walk away. And so
now with this T Higgins news, they've got to keep Hendrickson.
It feels like that's the one that's a no brainer.
And they have to improve on defense. They not only
have to keep Hendrickson, they have to improve on the
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defensive side of the ball, just like I said that
the Pittsburgh Steelers have to do. They have to be
better because you're putting up Gotti numbers. Joe Burrow, all
intensive purposes, should have been the MVP of the league
this year. If we're just looking at achievement through stats,
that man through for over five thousand yards. That's crazy.
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So when you look at what you have.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
In Joe Burrow, you look at what you have in
and Jamar Chase, and what you have when you have
a healthy T. Higgins, you're looking at an offense that
is virtually unstoppable. So all you got to do is
play better defense and Hendrickson outside of TJ. Watt, I
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mean I like the fact that they they kind of
got a little diverse and gave it to a corner.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But let's be clear, you're going somewhere else with that.
Let's just be clear.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think I think that Hendrickson should have diverse in
like what going to a white guy as one of
the best players, that would be diversity. I mean, there's
there's starting to be a little bit more diversity in
athleticism and professional sports. White men can jump, they can
that one can jump right there out the gym anyway.
(31:33):
And Hendrickson can play some guy doing football. I know
that as well. He gets after the quarterback and I
think he did it better than anybody else out there
in fact. So I just think that you have two teams.
To get back to the original point, you have two teams.
One will come up short on you. One made it
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to the super Bowl. But that's two teams that can
make it very, very difficult for you to be in
a situation to make the playoffs. How do you keep
pace with the Ravens and Bengals team all things given,
the teams are the teams going into next season. If
you are the Pittsburgh Steelers, how do you keep pace
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in the AFC North and you don't know who your
quarterback is going to be. And to that point, I
don't think that you keep pace, honestly.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
With the two quarterbacks that you had this season on
anybody's list top three potentially, you know, but for sure
top five in the AFC North. Two of those top
three or five quarterbacks are in that division, and neither
one of them plays for Pittsburgh. That's problem, Like that's
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it's a real problem. And it just they've been scrambling
for years now. And even look, the last couple of
years for Roethlisberger weren't all that hot, like you know,
but it was still it felt like there was the
potential there. And it just feels like they've hit their
ceiling and this is where they are until they can
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find somebody that's close to what Cincinnati and Baltimore have
a corn Now.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I think the craziest thing is is that you probably
have a worse situation in Cleveland. So their only saving
grace is is that I don't have to really worry
about Cleveland. They on cushion the bottom, they'll cushion the cellar,
so well, right here we're sturned willingly, like literally like,
we paid all this to be in this situation. Their
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ROI is to stink and be trash, and you lose
Miles Garrett, You're going to be even more stinking trash.
I just I think that you're you find yourself in
a situation, in a scenario where you're going to assume
that Baltimore is going to be the lead horse in
that division and can you keep pace with them? What
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team will you get from the Cincinnati Bengals, because even
though we know they have a ton of talent, they
didn't start playing football until later in the season this year.
I mean, they was trash early on too. So I
think if you get the doctor Jekyl Mister Hyde situation
with Cincinnati, I think it's the at least the consistency
that you see that comes from Pittsburgh that may play
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a part in them being a second rated team, second
ranked team that is a possible wild card team for
the playoffs once again. Once again, I think that that's
kind of right now, that's par for the course.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
At least they got Primani, So you know what I mean,
you ain't lying that big Fish is crazy. I know
everybody likes to get the ruben and the Classic and
all that stuff. But that big fish. If you go
to Primanny's and you get a sandwich, that big fish
is fire man. Throw you some some hot sauce on
that joint. Who add some tartar sauce?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Washing it down with an icy ladder labaro man, I'm
going LeVar Island all day with that. You could go
with icy light. A bear will go just fine with that.
Shouts out to PhD weight Laws two. By the way,
I have not had a big fish in quite some time.
I've been staying loyal to my diet he has, So
there you go.
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Speaker 9 (36:03):
Great tooy, Hey guys, the home stretch here all right.
As we mentioned earlier, Lebron missed the All Star Game
for the first time in his career. He'd been selected
as a starter for twenty one straight years.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Crazy yoah Lee.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Yesterday, he was asked about a bunch of topics. One
of them was the addition of Luka Dancic, and he
was asked if now teaming up with Luca has affected
how much longer he wants to keep playing.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Well, just the excitement of being able to add a
caliber player like that, a generational chalnel like that, to
our franchise. It's something that's given me energy. I'm looking
forward to seeing what we could do. I think it's
been we only had what two games, two games so far,
and I believe I think he's been on minutes restrictions
since he came back from the cave yet and play
since Christmas.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I believe.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
So, you know, as we continue to you know, get
into form, as he continues to get informed, I think
we could be really good going down to stretch. But
we see what happens.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
He sounds pretty excited. We know Lebron came out in
December and said that, you know, he could play another
five to seven years if we wanted to, but he
doesn't want to. Do you guys think that the addition
of Luca, though, will sort of rejuvenate him to play
longer than he really wanted to now that he knows
he won't have to carry the load.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I think the last accomplishment that he had to get
in his career was playing with his son. Like I
think he already knows whether or not he's going to
walk away, and Luca's arrival is going to do anything
to either extend it or not. I think that was
the last thing he wanted to do, was get his
son drafted into the NBA. He did play with his
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son in an NBA game, he did. I think everything
from here on that is gravy. But that was the
last box to check. I don't know one, two, three, four.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
He's got four championships, three and a half. Yeah, I
got the bubble, the bubble of it.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, come up, sorry, MJ has six Yep. If you
could get.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
A run and still two to three more championships in
the next three to four years, that would.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Be a major box to check off.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Even if he did not receive full compensation of the
credit of getting those championships, even if it went to
Luca as the reason why they won those championships, it
would still go down in the record book.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
That he had seven championships. I think there's no shot
the Lakers on a title.
Speaker 9 (38:31):
And now I don't know, man, I don't think this year,
but if it depends on the offseason next year, they
could be. I think they could be right there in
the mix. The next year or two. They can really
fix this roster with some mcmah.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I mean, and Luca is a major piece to that puzzle.
I'll tell you that they weren't going to get it
done with Ad and Lebron, So now you add Luca.
That's a different type of that's a different type of
animal there. He can carry the team on his own
by himself. Right now, I.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Think the Luca signed, the Luca move was about the future,
not the press totally. I think this was about the
what are we gonna do after Lebron walks away? And
I've said it before. I think I think people had
grown fatigued with Lebron and Ad in this town. There
was no buzz. The Dodgers were dwarfing the Lakers in
this town. And I think that now they look at
it and go, all right, well, least we have somebody
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that we can hand it off to. I don't think they.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I don't think they hire his son in the draft
if that was totally the thought process of Lebron.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I just don't now if Lebron retires at the end
of this year, over under fifteen minutes before they wave
Ronnie James, which they gone under here.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
But that's what I'm saying, You're not gonna waste that
draft pick if that was what your plan was. He's
going to stay long enough for his son to be solidified,
I would assume, and you have an opportunity now to
possibly make a push for more championships. He wants to
be the goat of all time. There's a couple of
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things he won't get. He won't get him on defensive
Player of the Years. He won't get him on that.
But he does have the chance with Luca coming to
the team to get to at least tying him. I
mean at least tie it.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
You know how cool that would be though and teasing
and busting balls, But how cool that must be to
say I played in an NBA game. What my style?
That's awesome. Like, let me tell you this, I'm about
to go give my son that work on air hockey
right now. When I get home, I'm gonna whoop his ass.
I'm gonna be unforgiving. I'll run up the score too.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Is it a real air air hockey table or is
it like one of the little young boy air hockey table.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It's a young boy. But here's what, like the Fisher Price,
did I put clear Scotch tape over his goal so
he can't score? O Jonas, it's great. You are horrible
for that. Just let them win at everything. Jonas, i'sten
to put clear Scott's table on your mouth, bitch. All right,
we'll wrap it up with this. We'll wrap it up
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with this.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
The Super Bowl guys could be coming back to Vegas.
According to the Sports Business Journal, the NFL is preparing
to return to Vegas in twenty twenty nine. Many thought
Nashville could be in the mix for twenty twenty nine,
as their new Dome Stadium is opening up in twenty seven,
but according to the SPJ, the NFL was so impressed
with Vegas as host last year they could give them
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another shot just five years later.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
I'd be the only super Bowl day. But here's the thing.
We always the Super Bowl game.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
We talk about the super Bowl rotation, right, and it
should and most people think it's La, Phoenix, Miami Vegas,
maybe New Orleans, mixed inn. We could skip La really yeah, Okay,
Miami in Vegas, Miami, Vegas, Phoenix.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
About it.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
From the weather perspective, the weather in New Orleans was fantastic.
It was like seventy five seventy seven every day stuffing,
but it was good.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
I like New Orleans. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
After that Thursday, I'm gonna go with New Orleans with
the weather end and it was.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
An easy walk. It was an easy walk to the
press row. I thought Atlanta was the most organized super
Bowl I've been and they're gonna be there in a
couple of years. I think I think it goes Uh
Santa Clara, La and then Atlanta's after that. I'm always
with Atlanta. It's gonna be cold though, probably. See that's
the problem Atlanta. You don't you never really know what
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is gonna be like.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, but you know that's where my you know, that's
College Football Hall of Fame in Atlanta. So I always
call Atlanta, you know, always to take a little bit
of time, go hang out there. You know where else.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You know goes Rob Parker to Magic City. And you know,
I don't do those types of things. I don't either.
I'm live. No, no, lemon pepper lose. I mean, lemon
pepper wings is good. Damn garlic garlic palm is good too,