May 10, 2025 • 40 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk Derek Carr retiring this morning, wonder about Dillon Gabriel getting 1st team reps over Shedeur Sanders, Bill Belichicks UNC drama, and more!
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Alright, alright, happiest Saturday to everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Welcome into the show. It's up on Game. It's TJ Witchman, Sada,
It's Pluxico Birds, and.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm LeVar Arrington. We got a lot to get to
a lot of sports topics. Derek Carr breaking news, huh wow,
we'll get into that in a matter of moments. We
got a conversation on well, what's going on in Cleveland
with the rookie mini camps? Yeah, and uh well we'll
keep it in the NFC, well the AFC North, I
should say, as well as we move into the show,
(01:14):
we are in the Fox Sports Radio, Fox Radio Sports
Sports Radio, Yeah, Studio and we're here, and fellas, how
are y'all feeling? TJ, I know how you feeling, because man,
I just came Sie.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We're finally getting what we needed and what we paid
is on.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Hey these last few days.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Man, wake up at like seven twenty and it's eighty.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Five degrees already, super sonny, Hey man, supper sunny, not
a not a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Everybody gonna be at the beach this entire weekend, man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know what, right I mean? I won't be at
the beach, but I heard the crews going to the be.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
A happy mother day tall the mothers, man, y'all you
like y'all sales man on this great we can't win
about the have Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, how's it feeling where you at?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Man? Oh man, just taking it all in. Approaching seven
seventy degrees today, it's not too bad, man. Tomorrow is
gonna be up high seventies and so hey man, it's
gonna be a beautiful weekend here. Also, that's all we
can really ask for.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I'll say this, it's probably really hot in New
Orleans as well, and the ownership and decision makers will
be enjoying today's today's weather, as well as most likely
one Derek Carr, who is now calling it quits so
he will be able to relax wherever it is that
(02:43):
he's at as well. What what's what's your guy's initial
reaction to it? Obviously he calls it quit basically, I'm
assuming off of the reports on just how the rotator
cuff is damaged or how it's looking and how it's injured.
By him doing this, he's saving the New Orleans Saints.
(03:07):
And this is why I would say that they're probably
somewhere enjoying their day. But I think they're saving what
twenty million dollars or so against their cap if I'm
reading it correctly, well, forty million. Let's see, it's thirty.
The quarterback is giving up thirty million dollars of the
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forty million he got in a restructured team contract from
earlier this year. Could could have made them cut him
or do something. They obviously had a two million dollar
roster bonus that would be due to him, So it's
a lot of money and the contract. I guess the
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way it goes when you announce a retirement is that
he's basically helping the New Orleans Saints to make some
money and have cap space. What was your guys' first
reaction to it? And is the bigger question here most
likely is where do the New Orleans Saints go? I
(04:13):
know they had to drive pick and shock, but we're
do the Saints going?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How do you guys.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Feel about Derek Carr's his career? I guess at this
point of him retiring.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Well, Number one, congrats to Derek Carr. It's probably one
of the more underrated quarterbacks in the league. I felt
like he had a good career. He had a really
good career to be a second round pick. Obviously his
brother was the first pick in the draft. But he
had a good career. But I know one thing that
I want, so congratulations on your career, Derek Carr. But
(04:45):
I'm not giving up thirty million to fully guaranteed money.
I'm not doing that. His base salary for twenty twenty
five was thirty million, and it was fully guaranteed. And
this is the thing when we as players like, oh,
take a discount, Oh let's do this, Oh let's help
the team out. Are we forgetting that the people that
are paying us are billionaires. They never give us free money.
(05:09):
They never just say, oh, we're just gonna pay them
just because. And so I don't like what like this
is thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
A fully gar on the table.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
He got a ten million dollar roster bonus last month
and they're not gonna try to come after the twenty
eight million that of his sign the bonus which you
received a couple of years ago. But this year's salary
is fully guaranteed. We as players got to get out
of this media. Oh man, shit, he take a discount
for the team. Why would I take a discount for
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somebody that's worth billions of dollars. I never understood that,
Oh he should take a discount. Well, why won't he
just pay me? He has more money than I'll ever have.
But congratulations to Derek Carr. But I'm not leaving thirty
million dollars on the table.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
It looks as if they'll go with Tyler show the
rookie will get a chance, or I don't know why
I have a brain fart right now. The rookie from
South Carolina that was at Oklahoma, he's from eras Spencer Rattler.
So I believe Spencer Ratler Tyler Shaw and the kid
from Fred Go, my god, do what's wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think my age is getting me bro my memory.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Start calling you c CT like a bad boy.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
C Yeah, man, Yeah, you got Haner, Jake Hanner, Spencer Ratler,
Tyler Shaw. They're all young, all them dudes are young,
and so they'll they'll fight it out. It made the
best man win. But man, thirty million dollar dream and
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hey man, this kind of piggy mag off what TJ said. Man,
you know, I had the opportunity to play against Derek
multiple times, and you know, did he have a great career? No,
but he was a solid quarterback in this league. I
would say he had good career.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I think one of the most you know, glaring and
you know, understated things about him and his career is
that in his eleven years as playing in this league,
he had eight head coaches, so he never really got
the you know, opportunity to really get his feet on
the ground, you know, from a coaching standpoint, and really
having those weapons around him to go to the next level.
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Because that's what we all thought about Derek Carr. He
had He was a great athlete, He had all the
ability in the world to be a great quarterback in
his league, and we everybody was waiting for him to
take that next step, and he never got there. Whether
it was no coaching, the guys that he was surrounding around,
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officer coordinators, whatever the case may be, but he never
got to that elite level of which the talent that
we knew that he all had. And to go back
off of what TJ said, if I get my MRI
R and then so on, I got a labor or
whatever the case, I mean, I'm going to get this surgery.
Somebody had to deal with me. I ain't giving nobody
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no thirty plus forty million dollars back and it's guaranteed. Oh,
I'm going to get this surgery. I just found out
that I got a torn label. Remember m one, MRI riy.
So y'all gonuna have to deal with that. And another
thing about it is, I think Derek Carton knew that
he was going to retire a few weeks ago, and
unfortunately for the New Orleans Saints, it's a week too late.
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Because there you was sitting there at the ninth pick.
If you knew that Derek Carr wasn't going to be
in the building, Mighty could have got you a Jackson Dot.
You might could have got you a Shador Sanders. You
don't think that I would, as I don't believe if
they knew that Derek Carr was going to retire. I
guarantee you for sure, if they would have took Jackson
(08:54):
Dot or either Shador Sanders at the ninth pick, they
would not go into the season with the unproven core
the backs that they have in in this quarterback room.
I really honestly believe. I really honestly believe that. And
I said this on on on this network maybe about
three or four months ago, being at Kellen Moore was
a new head coach of the New Orleans Saints, and
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everybody looked at me when I was crazy, and I
said that I would. You still am still all right,
So I would not be surprised being a Kellen Moore
is a former quarterback in his league, that Aaron Rodgers
may have the possibility of being a quarterback for the
New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Hmmm mmmm. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, I'll say this, and I agree with a lot
of what you guys are saying. Definitely, congratus due an
eleven season career, that's a beautiful thing. If you can
make it to double digits, for certain, his pension will
be fine. And he's made a ton of money full
time pro bowler. You gotta, you know, gotta give up
(10:01):
props for that. And and and you know what, one
thing about Derek Carr, he did it the right way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
As a person.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He's always been to me, one of those guys you know,
it's it can be used pretty loosely at times, but
he's a pretty class act type of dude. I mean,
if you've ever heard him interview. I've never met the
young man, but always when I've seen him interview, he
seems to have a very high level of self accountability
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as well as accountability for the people that are, you know,
on his team and within his his ecosystem. He's always
come across as a pretty impressive, like, you know, dude
to me, and it seemed genuine, you know, when they
were going through some things, and you know, when he
was with the Raiders and he was talking about how
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he felt about things that had taken place and how
he could be better and just taking you know a
lot of responsibility on his hands that you know, it
just it created a level of respect for me that
I had for him just watching how he handled some
really really tough moments because you know, I played for
a really se team and and it's not always easy
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to be able to stand in there as a focal
point of a team that is not doing well, doing poorly,
and being able to say the right things. It can
be emotionally draining, it could be physically draining. It's just
taxing on your body. It's taxing on the people that
you care about, both in the locker room and in
your home. And so that's a lot to that's a
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lot of weight to carry. It didn't get any better
going to New Orleans, you know, didn't The situation didn't
go from better or go from worse to better. It
was still one of those struggle situations for Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So I hope he can find peace. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
One of the biggest things I always say, you know,
you guys had an opportunity to win, and that's like,
you know, that's not always a thing.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I know, Hey, do you think it would have been
like the team could have said, uh tin could the
approach car and his people and say, hey, we know
your salary for twenty twenty five is guaranteed at thirty million.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How about we just give you fifteen I mean, that
would have been.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
The right thing to do.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It's fully guaranteed, have surgery, you out for the year,
fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
No doubt about it. I'm going under the blade.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I don't have to do it anyway. He's going to have, yeah,
surgery anyway, because.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
If you had a surgery, he was gonna miss the
season anyway.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you could at least say, okay,
we'll give you fifteen million, Like, are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I just don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You guys are are I mean, you're accurate in what
I need.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
To go be to go be an agent, because whoever
his agent is is terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So from what I understand, you know, he heard his
you know, he played games last season, he ended up
hurting the shoulder, so his goal was to rehab the
shoulder without getting surgery on it. And that right there,
I think was the wrong move, you know, from the jump,
him saying that he's going to rehabit without getting surgery
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and then I'll, you know, I'll see how I feel
and after the draft or April May, whatever the case
may be. And then he gets back to throwing the football,
and now, you know, he comes out and says, okay,
I have a basically I still have the same injury
and has not healed, so therefore I'm going to retire.
I think he should have took the initiative of going
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to get the MR after the season and then making
the decision to say, you know what, I'm going to
get surgery. And maybe he still had the opportunity to
be the starter on opening day in September, because that
would have given him, you know, ten eleven months to
heal or get ready, but whatever the case may be.
But trying to heal at this stage of your career,
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thirty plus years old, eleven years in this business and
you're just going to try to rehabit without surgery. I
think that was a wrong move by him. But yet
and still I'm still going to get that surgery so
I can get my as absolutely. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think maybe he felt as though once he knew
he was going to need surgery because maybe he didn't
want to get the surgery. Know, some some dudes ain't
into like going under that blade.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
If LeVar go under it, would he have to hap
it just for quality of life?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Even Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't know, because if it were that he was
going to inevitably need to get the surgery, surgery.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He still needs a surgery. So now he's going to
get the surgery with no cheat.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But he might not have known that he was going
to have to get the surgery that he was entitled to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
It was a pay surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, no doubt. Oh listen, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And his insurance believe you me that whatever insurance is
going on. And however that that situation, if he's got
to get surgery, is I mean, it's going to be
taken care of. I mean, I don't. I don't see
that being any type of an issue. And he's probably
going to get a medical settlement out of that situation.
I mean, I'm sure there's other elements that are connected
to what's taking place with him, but.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
There's no medical settlement in this one. This one right here,
he opted out himself. This is not him being getting
hurt in a team releasing but he did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He did get hurt though it did come from him.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But the team did not release him or cut him.
While he was injured.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, well yeah, there you go. Yeah yeah, right, yeah,
I mean I don't know what what how it'll all
play out. I'm sure they will have those conversations though,
one hundred percent like they will have those conversations, and
and whatever that is that they come up with, they'll
they'll come up with something. They ain't going to just be,
you know, nothing, there'll there there will be some type
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of something. And and and as the New Orleans Saints
should be involved to a degree because he did hurt
himself in the game. Now, whatever happened after, you know,
after all of that and into the offseason, whatever, that's
a conversation. But I think there will be a conversation
had between both sides as to what takes place. But anyway,
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congratulations on a good career. Derek Carr has announced that
he's retiring from the National Football League and obviously was
a member of the New Orleans Saints team.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Speaking of quarterbacks, Let's keep the thing quarterback friendly, keep
the quarterback conversation going on. You got many camps going
on in and around the league. The Cleveland Browns obviously
they held their mini camp, and well We're going to
have a discussion on that because one of the draft
pick quarterbacks were getting the first reps while the other wasn't,
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and that's going to be a conversation. We're also going
to get to George Pickens at some point too. Yep,
he was traded went to the Cowboys. I'm sure I
heard that. During the course of the week, we're going
to talk about all those things and more right here
on Up on Game.
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Hear what it is?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Man, I got my crew up in here this weekend.
That's why I'm so lit.
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Speaker 3 (18:18):
You all know who Jordan Hudson is. Well, that's you know,
Bill Belichick's homie. We'll call it. How about that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But before we get to that, we will talk a
little George Pickens possibly, and we will certainly talk about
this topic right now, fellas, the mini camps are underway
and people are the young bucks are in and they're
getting the work in.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The free agents are getting their work.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
In, and well, Dylan Gabriel is getting the first team
QB reps for the Browns. We all know the Shador
Sanders conversation and everything that has surrounded him coming out
of the draft, going into the draft as well, it's
been the biggest story for the NFL. But Dylan Gabriel
was the third round pick to Chador being the fifth
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round pick. This is what Kevin Stefanski had to say
about the reps they are getting in practice.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, I wouldn't look into anything. I think you'll see
the whole weekend going through the spring. I mean, we
don't pay too close attention to who's in their.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
First, all right, so they don't pay attention to who
was in there first. I think we all know that's
cap You definitely pay attention because the reps are limited.
But I want to throw this one out at you guys.
You have a I think a very real interesting situation
here Deshaun Watson. I think he's out as the quarterback.
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I don't think he'll ever play another down for Cleveland Browns.
So while he is considered a quarterback that's on the roster,
I don't look at him as being how they're going
to determine what their quarterback room looks like. So that
leaves Flacko, Picket, Dylan, and Sanders on the team. Now,
I made this bold proclamation dur in the week fellas,
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and I know it might sound outland and it might
sound crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Walk me back. I feel like this you're in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
North Stefanski, although having great success winning Coach of the
Year awards in previous years, is really in my estimation
on a super super scorching hot hot seat this upcoming season, Fellas,
you don't have a quarterback perceivably, it's not established. This
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could be a do or die year for this coaching
staff and whether they keep their job. So now with
that being said, you bring in Flacco, you bring in
Pickett because Deshaun Watson has a setback and the injury,
it sounds like they're moving on. As I mentioned, you
have Flacco, approven quarterback with experience, but he's old. Can
he hold up? Can he be a good player at
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this point in his career question mark? But I think
that I think going into it, probably the most confidence
is in Joe Flacco. He has a history of having
success with the team. They let him go, they've brought
him back. You bring pick it in. He's not proven,
but he does have experience and direct experience in the
AFC North, obviously getting drafted by the Steelers and playing
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for the Steelers before getting sent away to the Eagles,
which by the way, he got an opportunity to learn
with Jalen Hurts and win a Super Bowl with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he has.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Experienced, but he's relatively largely unproven in terms of, you know,
being able to win and win in the AFC North.
Then that brings you down. You round out the bottom
with a third round drive pick in a successful college
career and winner, and Dylan Gabriel led the Oregon Ducks
and after a transfer, obviously to winning the Big Ten
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title in their inaugural year. I hate to admit it,
but they did in their inaugural year in the Big Ten.
And then the probably the biggest surprising deal of it
all is they get Shador Sanders in the fifth round.
Now I set the table to say on those things,
fellas that I think that it is hard to carry
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more than three quarterbacks on a roster, and that third one,
in my estimation, is probably a practice squad guy. So
one of these guys has to go. I do not
believe that Flacco or Picket will go because of what
I just detailed. Now with Dylan and Sanders, I think
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they're both battling it out for that third string quarterback
slash practice squad quarterback, which means that there's a strong
possibility that one of these guys are going to get
let go. I seem to think I believe, and y'all
walk it the way y'all want to walk it. There's
a strong possibility that Shador Sanders is not a Cleveland
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Brown by the time we get to the final roster
of what the Cleveland Browns will look like. I think
Shador Sanders gets an opportunity at some point, But I
don't believe that this scenario, now that I've thought about
it and went over it and went through it, I
don't know that that opportunity. I don't believe that that
opportunity may be in Cleveland. I think he needs to
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build his resume as much as he possibly can in
terms of his reputation and whatever that may look like
to people. But I think it happens with another team.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
What say, y'all, I mean, that's very possible. I've been
told from somebody that has a good understanding of what's
going on, Canny Picket or Dylan Gabriel will be the starter.
That's what I've been told. One of those two will
be the starter. Flack On Shadar will battle to be
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the number three.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
For SUTURE.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
When you're drafted that late. Let's just be honest that
it's very possible that you can get released. Now I
doubt that that happens. It really is gonna come down
to how does he look at OTA's how does he
look in mini camp, how will he look in training camp?
And now the preseason games. That is going to be
critical for him because there's just some players where you
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may if people didn't think Shadu was good in uh
in shorts, when you put the helm in the shorter
pads on, it's a different ball game. Now when when
it's live and you can get hit and you got
a process and you got to get rid of that ball,
it's a different ball game. And so when that comes
around in August, we don't see. But what I've been told,
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Kenny Picker or Dylan Gabriel is gonna be the starter.
Shadur and Joe Flacca will battle for the third quarterback
in spot. And if Flacco wins it, do they push
your during the practice? Try to release them. If Shadur
wins it, Flacco's gonna be released.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, you know, it's so many, you know, different, you
know scenarios I think that they're dealing with from a
quarterbacks then point. You know, LeVar just touched on. You
know you're in the AFC North. You need defense for
me if I'm the Cleveland Browns knowing what I know, now,
I'm going defense. I'm gonna take Abduke Carter at number two,
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and I'm going to have Miles Garrett and Abduke Carter
bookends on my defense, and I still could have got
your door come back around in the third or fourth round.
So that's if you ask me, I'm going I'm playing defense.
Because if you think, if you're going into the season
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saying that Kenny Pickett's going to be your starter, then
why would you trade away your second pick to Jacksonville,
trade away take to trade away Travis Hunter. If you
already have it in your plans that Kenny Picktt is
going to be your starter, why would you take a
Dylan Gabriel and as your Door Sanders in the third
and fifth round. That absolutely makes zero sense to me.
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So there can only be three spots on this on
this roster for in the NFL team from a quarterback standpoint,
So what happens if Dylan Gabriel goes out there, he's
taking all your number one reps, Shardor goes in takes
reps and Shadoor centers looks better than anybody everybody, So
what do you do now moving forward? If you're Kevin
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Sefanski and his team.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't think it's ever. I think when it's UH
and you guys both you guys will both know this.
When you're drafted so late in a or you come
in as a free agent, it becomes a numbers game.
It's not even really based upon.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
It becomes a game if you're not getting reps, if
you're going out there playing the position and you're looking
halfway decent, or you're looking good or better than the
guys at that drafting in front of you. For him,
I don't think it's a numbers game because I think
that he's a better pure quarterback than Dylan Graybild from
his start.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I don't believe it's I don't believe it's the numbers
of games with him.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I think it happens quite a bit with late round
draft picks. They have phenomenal preseasons and they end up
getting cut just like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I mean, that's just what I've seen.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I just don't I don't know. It kind of takes
me back to the whole, you know, the size thing. Nobody.
I don't think that Dylan Gabriel will come into this,
come into the league at his size and be able to,
you know, survey defenses, be a pocket quarterback at five nine,
five ten or whatever the case may be. It's kind
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of the same thing. I wouldn't say that he's a
better quarterback than Bryce Young, and we look at some
of the struggles that he's been having his first two
years in the league. From a pure quarterback and standpoint,
he's not a better quarterback than Bryce Young. So so
what do you go from there? Do you think that
he's a better quarterback? Was he a better quarterback in
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college than Shador Sanders was? Or do you think he's
a better quarterback as a professional quarterback then Shador Sanders be.
I don't think that's going to be the case at all.
If he does get cut, it won't be because of
his performance.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's probably going to be based upon the numbers game.
That's what I'm just I mean, I think that that again,
if we're I I took I removed the emotions, I
removed the names. I just looked at it from a
pure sensible standpoint in terms of what's the plausibility of
a quarterback being in Shador Sanders situation making the roster.
(28:31):
It's not plausible in any other circumstance. If we were
to just say you brought it in a very very
probably considered to be the toughest division in the league,
you know, people would say argue, maybe some other ones,
I mean the North NFC North did pretty well this
past year. You could maybe argue to admit, some people
would say AFC West. Some people would debate that, but
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no one will ever debate that the AFC North is
always in the conversation for toughest division, especially boasting really
really strong defenses. I think that it's very hard to
put the the concept that you put out there TJ
and saying that it's between Pickett and Dylan Dylan Gabriel.
And the reason why I think that that's a difficult
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one is, for one, I don't think you're gonna walk
a Dylan Gabriel out and start him.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I just don't think he's going He's not going to
be a starter.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Games Dylan Gabrils starting college.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Man, I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I don't. I don't care. I don't really be I
really don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think putting yourself in a situation where you put
a Dylan Gabriel or a Shador Sanders or any of
these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
To be honest, I mean, it could have been the
kid that went number one, cam Ward. I don't care
what their name is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
If it's not a Joe Burrow type guy or Lamar
Jackson type guy that is a transcendent, transcending type of
player and talent, I think that that is a rough
go to be a starter in the AFC North as
a rookie, especially a third round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Ask Kenny Pickett and look at what happened to Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
And listen though the Cleveland Browns, we don't know this
what I'm they may be tanking for a quarterback for
next year.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Guys, they may not care.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
We heard that.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
In that scenario, they may just throw whomever out there.
And if the kid can play, oh wow, it's a revelation.
If somebody fall, somebody's got to take the fall for
that though.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
TJ like, and if i'm if, I am Kevin Stefanski,
I am not willing to take.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The fall to get Archie Manning.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I'm not because if if, if, what you're saying is
true and we're going to tank the season, try to
get Archie Manning that has nothing to do with my
job security. That has absolutely zero to do with my
job security. I gotta win in I'm not gonna make it.
I'm not gonna make it through an entire season tanking
to get Archie Manning if I'm the head coach, So
why would I Why would I ever put a guy
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in there that's gonna basically take away my ability to
be the head coach of this team. I wouldn't do that,
And that's why I wouldn't put I wouldn't put Dylan
Gabriel in there either.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Go good God, I just I just don't think right now,
anybody in the front office for the Cleveland Browns with
the five or six quarterbacks that you look at in
that quarterback when we're back right now, has drastically changed
the projection of this football team.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Joe the playoffs last year there, Joe Flacco's last year there,
he led them to the playoffs. Believe he won, he
won Comeback Player of the Year with that that that
performance that he put forth when he took over for
Watson's I believe that's why they brought him back.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Can you at least agree with that, Joe, Joe Flacco
is the best option for this, I believe that. I
believe that to be true, so your reports are accurate.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't understand why why Joe Flacco is fighting for
a roster spot when he was the reason why they
made it the playoffs when he last played for the
tape because a.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Year they don't they don't want to go to the
playoffs with Joe Flacco as their quarterback because where's the future.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
There is a future.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
There is no future.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
There is no future in that. But there's Joe there
you have. Yeah, there is their best option. They need
a quarterback for the future. That's what they need. They
need a quarterback for the.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So and shador sand those are the best two options
that you have right now moving forward for the Cleveland
Browns for the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
And if one of them plays well, there's a quarterback
of the future. And if they do not, I don't
I don't believe either one of them plays that well.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't see how they get the opportunity. We can
you Pickett and Joe Flacco being on the roster. Again,
if you look at it from a plausible, sensible perspective,
Joe Flacco comes in as he's a he's aware and
familiar with the offensive terminology in the skin.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
He's had success in the scheme.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He has had success and has unlimited experience and has
won a super Bowl coming out of the AFC North.
If I'm going to leverage this season, I'm leveraging that
season going in with Flacco, and if Flaco can hold
up physically, then in my estimation, I gotta have pick
it on on reserve. I do not believe a third
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round draft pick or a fifth round draft pick will
get enough reps to be able to supplant the number
two guy, which means, now one of those two have
to go, because you're not going to carry four quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
On your roster.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
You'll carry three, and you will put one, You'll put
that one, that third one on your practice squad while
you have two active quarterbacks. And I do not see
that being both of those guys that got drafted, which
means one of those draft picks is going to get
let go. That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But we'll happen.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Well, have the Everybody knows Flacco is the best quarterback
on the roster. Everybody knows that the Cleveland Browns have
a plan. And let's see if it falls the way
they wanted to fall.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, well, they gonna fall, for certain, but how far
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A lot of people wobble wobble and they don't fall down,
but the Cleveland Browns have been known to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Anyway, Let's get a trending from Eyelaw.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I told joall we was going to try to get
to George Pickens and Jordan Hudson, but we're gonna talk
Pickens next, but first, let's get a trending from Isaac
Loewen Cron what you got?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
And I got more quarterback news today because four time
Pro Bowl QB Derek Carr is retiring after eleven seasons
because of a torn laborm as well as significant degenerative
changes to his rotator cuff. Car said of his career
in a statement today, I've been incredibly blessed and forever
grateful and humbled by this experience. In the NBA Playoffs.
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On Friday night, Denver defeated Oklahoma City at overtime one
thirteen to one oh four for a two games to
one lead. Today's action tips off at three point thirty
Eastern with Game three from Madison Square Garden and the
New York Nicks leading the Boston Celtics two games to
none and the Stanley Cup playoffs. On Friday night, the
Winnipeg Jets shut out the Dallas Stars for nothing to
tie the series at one. And in Major League Baseball
(35:10):
on Friday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers scored six runs
in the top of the ninth inning to win at
Arizona fourteen to eleven, including sho Hey O'tani's go ahead
three run home run, his twelfth of the season, and
Jason Dominguez of the New York Yankees hit three home
runs in three consecutive at bats, including a grand slam.
He also homeward from both sides of the plate in
(35:33):
a ten two victory over the A's guys. Back to you,
dang switch hitter, Dune Thanky, ill appreciate it. Hey, listen,
we're gonna take a quick break. On the other side
of break. Here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We're gonna talk Jordan Hudson, Yeah, and unc facilities, you know,
University of North Carolina. We're going to talk that we're
gonna take George Pickens into our two when we bring
cuffs the legend in because he could talk about football
too as well as basketball. So that's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna take a quick break on the other side
of We're going talk to UNC football facilities, rumors, all
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that on.
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Speaker 3 (36:21):
All right, all right, welcome back into the show. It's
up on Game.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You know what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We got hour two coming at you soon. We got
cups to legend coming on from some dude show as
well in hour two. But first, before we get to
the breaking into the hour fellas, we got a couple
minutes the whole Jordan Hudson, who is the girlfriend of
Bill Belichick, the new head coach of the UNC Tar
Hills football team. There were reports that came out on
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Friday that she was the girlfriend of Bill Belichick, that
is was banned from the football facilities.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Comes out.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
UNC comes out and denies that that took place. What
needs to happen here, fellas, because this doesn't seem to
be a story that is going.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
To go away.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Is Bill Belichick making a bad move here by not
nipping this in the bud? How should this be approached?
And who should be the one that's the catalyst of it?
Should be you and see the school? Should it be
Bill Belichick the coach? Who should have be a team effort?
Should it be Jordan herself the girlfriend Hudson that says,
I'm going to remove myself from the situation and not
be confusion on the program?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
What do you think should happen here?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Man?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Really?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
This really boggles my mind because again, the Bill Belichick
that was portrayed to everybody with the New England Patriots,
this goes against everything that we thought he was. You
couldn't even I remember somebody playing with the Patriots telling
me Bill Belichick told everybody it's probably gonna be a snowstorm.
(38:01):
I don't care what you do. Nobody better be late
to practice. So if you got to stay at a hotel,
stay at a hotel. One of his best players was
late daily is time Thomas. Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't
get out his garage because it was packed.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
By the time he got the practice, Bill Belichick cust him.
I sent him home and find him and then he
got cut. I'm like, bro, what you're supposed to do?
Walk to practice? Now? I weren't like you were that strict,
knowing it's the way, and all this is getting out
over a twenty four year old woman that you're dating,
and she's running the show like it seems as if
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she's running the show. I mean, for me, I have
no words because to Bill Belichick that we were that
we thought how he was in New England is a
complete opposite of what we see and we're hearing of
what's going.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
On at the University of North Carolina. I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I don't believe that she's really running the show at all.
I really don't believe that just happens to be that
as Bill Belichick probably the greatest coach of all time,
and this girl being at its twenty four, she's attractive,
and nobody thought that Bill even had this, you know,
in his back pocket, so to speak. But obviously none
of this stuff is true. If the university comes out
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and says that one of these things are true about
the Jordan Hutches. She's still allowed in the facilities, but
it remains a distraction because everybody keeps talking about it. Yeah,
so I think that he needs us to come out
and say, listen, everything's fine. She's brooking in the facility.
(39:38):
You know she's my girlfriend. Get over it, move on,
let's continue to play football. I think that's what needs
to happen. Just put it to bed, put it the rest,
and I think everybody will have a better understanding of
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, it's definitely become a topic of conversation, and I
wonder how much pressure puts on Bill Belichick to have
success in his inaugural year with the UNC Tar Hills
leading and coaching this team. The only reason why it's
the topic again is because of the age gap and
the age difference. It'll be interesting to see if she
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if she leans into it, like I'm getting a lot
of attention, because the appearance is that she seems to
like it. It seems like she likes the attention. But
I'll say this, it seems like Bill Belichick likes the
attention too. So we'll see out all played. Much like
what y'all just said about this, relationship. We're gonna just
let it be what is going to be, and we're
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gonna put it to bid. Talking about this hour up
on Game, we got hour two coming at you in
a matter of moments, that's right. We got Cuffs the
Legend coming up. We're gonna talk NBA playoffs, and we're
gonna wanna start off with George Pickens as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Alright, alright, happiest Saturday to everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Welcome into the show. It's up on Game. It's TJ Witchman, Sada,
It's Pluxico Birds, and.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm LeVar Arrington. We got a lot to get to
a lot of sports topics. Derek Carr breaking news, huh wow,
we'll get into that in a matter of moments. We
got a conversation on well, what's going on in Cleveland
with the rookie mini camps? Yeah, and uh well we'll
keep it in the NFC, well the AFC North, I
should say, as well as we move into the show,
(01:14):
we are in the Fox Sports Radio, Fox Radio Sports
Sports Radio, Yeah, Studio and we're here, and fellas, how
are y'all feeling? TJ, I know how you feeling, because man,
I just came Sie.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We're finally getting what we needed and what we paid
is on.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Hey these last few days.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Man, wake up at like seven twenty and it's eighty.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Five degrees already, super sonny, Hey man, supper sunny, not
a not a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Everybody gonna be at the beach this entire weekend, man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know what, right I mean? I won't be at
the beach, but I heard the crews going to the be.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
A happy mother day tall the mothers, man, y'all you
like y'all sales man on this great we can't win
about the have Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, how's it feeling where you at?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Man? Oh man, just taking it all in. Approaching seven
seventy degrees today, it's not too bad, man. Tomorrow is
gonna be up high seventies and so hey man, it's
gonna be a beautiful weekend here. Also, that's all we
can really ask for.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I'll say this, it's probably really hot in New
Orleans as well, and the ownership and decision makers will
be enjoying today's today's weather, as well as most likely
one Derek Carr, who is now calling it quits so
he will be able to relax wherever it is that
(02:43):
he's at as well. What what's what's your guy's initial
reaction to it? Obviously he calls it quit basically, I'm
assuming off of the reports on just how the rotator
cuff is damaged or how it's looking and how it's injured.
By him doing this, he's saving the New Orleans Saints.
(03:07):
And this is why I would say that they're probably
somewhere enjoying their day. But I think they're saving what
twenty million dollars or so against their cap if I'm
reading it correctly, well, forty million. Let's see, it's thirty.
The quarterback is giving up thirty million dollars of the
(03:29):
forty million he got in a restructured team contract from
earlier this year. Could could have made them cut him
or do something. They obviously had a two million dollar
roster bonus that would be due to him, So it's
a lot of money and the contract. I guess the
(03:52):
way it goes when you announce a retirement is that
he's basically helping the New Orleans Saints to make some
money and have cap space. What was your guys' first
reaction to it? And is the bigger question here most
likely is where do the New Orleans Saints go? I
(04:13):
know they had to drive pick and shock, but we're
do the Saints going?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How do you guys.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Feel about Derek Carr's his career? I guess at this
point of him retiring.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Well, Number one, congrats to Derek Carr. It's probably one
of the more underrated quarterbacks in the league. I felt
like he had a good career. He had a really
good career to be a second round pick. Obviously his
brother was the first pick in the draft. But he
had a good career. But I know one thing that
I want, so congratulations on your career, Derek Carr. But
(04:45):
I'm not giving up thirty million to fully guaranteed money.
I'm not doing that. His base salary for twenty twenty
five was thirty million, and it was fully guaranteed. And
this is the thing when we as players like, oh,
take a discount, Oh let's do this, Oh let's help
the team out. Are we forgetting that the people that
are paying us are billionaires. They never give us free money.
(05:09):
They never just say, oh, we're just gonna pay them
just because. And so I don't like what like this
is thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
A fully gar on the table.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
He got a ten million dollar roster bonus last month
and they're not gonna try to come after the twenty
eight million that of his sign the bonus which you
received a couple of years ago. But this year's salary
is fully guaranteed. We as players got to get out
of this media. Oh man, shit, he take a discount
for the team. Why would I take a discount for
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somebody that's worth billions of dollars. I never understood that,
Oh he should take a discount. Well, why won't he
just pay me? He has more money than I'll ever have.
But congratulations to Derek Carr. But I'm not leaving thirty
million dollars on the table.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
It looks as if they'll go with Tyler show the
rookie will get a chance, or I don't know why
I have a brain fart right now. The rookie from
South Carolina that was at Oklahoma, he's from eras Spencer Rattler.
So I believe Spencer Ratler Tyler Shaw and the kid
from Fred Go, my god, do what's wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think my age is getting me bro my memory.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Start calling you c CT like a bad boy.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
C Yeah, man, Yeah, you got Haner, Jake Hanner, Spencer Ratler,
Tyler Shaw. They're all young, all them dudes are young,
and so they'll they'll fight it out. It made the
best man win. But man, thirty million dollar dream and
(06:52):
hey man, this kind of piggy mag off what TJ said. Man,
you know, I had the opportunity to play against Derek
multiple times, and you know, did he have a great career? No,
but he was a solid quarterback in this league. I
would say he had good career.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I think one of the most you know, glaring and
you know, understated things about him and his career is
that in his eleven years as playing in this league,
he had eight head coaches, so he never really got
the you know, opportunity to really get his feet on
the ground, you know, from a coaching standpoint, and really
having those weapons around him to go to the next level.
(07:27):
Because that's what we all thought about Derek Carr. He
had He was a great athlete, He had all the
ability in the world to be a great quarterback in
his league, and we everybody was waiting for him to
take that next step, and he never got there. Whether
it was no coaching, the guys that he was surrounding around,
(07:48):
officer coordinators, whatever the case may be, but he never
got to that elite level of which the talent that
we knew that he all had. And to go back
off of what TJ said, if I get my MRI
R and then so on, I got a labor or
whatever the case, I mean, I'm going to get this surgery.
Somebody had to deal with me. I ain't giving nobody
(08:10):
no thirty plus forty million dollars back and it's guaranteed. Oh,
I'm going to get this surgery. I just found out
that I got a torn label. Remember m one, MRI riy.
So y'all gonuna have to deal with that. And another
thing about it is, I think Derek Carton knew that
he was going to retire a few weeks ago, and
unfortunately for the New Orleans Saints, it's a week too late.
(08:33):
Because there you was sitting there at the ninth pick.
If you knew that Derek Carr wasn't going to be
in the building, Mighty could have got you a Jackson Dot.
You might could have got you a Shador Sanders. You
don't think that I would, as I don't believe if
they knew that Derek Carr was going to retire. I
guarantee you for sure, if they would have took Jackson
(08:54):
Dot or either Shador Sanders at the ninth pick, they
would not go into the season with the unproven core
the backs that they have in in this quarterback room.
I really honestly believe. I really honestly believe that. And
I said this on on on this network maybe about
three or four months ago, being at Kellen Moore was
a new head coach of the New Orleans Saints, and
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everybody looked at me when I was crazy, and I
said that I would. You still am still all right,
So I would not be surprised being a Kellen Moore
is a former quarterback in his league, that Aaron Rodgers
may have the possibility of being a quarterback for the
New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Hmmm mmmm. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, I'll say this, and I agree with a lot
of what you guys are saying. Definitely, congratus due an
eleven season career, that's a beautiful thing. If you can
make it to double digits, for certain, his pension will
be fine. And he's made a ton of money full
time pro bowler. You gotta, you know, gotta give up
(10:01):
props for that. And and and you know what, one
thing about Derek Carr, he did it the right way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
As a person.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He's always been to me, one of those guys you know,
it's it can be used pretty loosely at times, but
he's a pretty class act type of dude. I mean,
if you've ever heard him interview. I've never met the
young man, but always when I've seen him interview, he
seems to have a very high level of self accountability
(10:30):
as well as accountability for the people that are, you know,
on his team and within his his ecosystem. He's always
come across as a pretty impressive, like, you know, dude
to me, and it seemed genuine, you know, when they
were going through some things, and you know, when he
was with the Raiders and he was talking about how
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he felt about things that had taken place and how
he could be better and just taking you know a
lot of responsibility on his hands that you know, it
just it created a level of respect for me that
I had for him just watching how he handled some
really really tough moments because you know, I played for
a really se team and and it's not always easy
(11:17):
to be able to stand in there as a focal
point of a team that is not doing well, doing poorly,
and being able to say the right things. It can
be emotionally draining, it could be physically draining. It's just
taxing on your body. It's taxing on the people that
you care about, both in the locker room and in
your home. And so that's a lot to that's a
(11:38):
lot of weight to carry. It didn't get any better
going to New Orleans, you know, didn't The situation didn't
go from better or go from worse to better. It
was still one of those struggle situations for Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So I hope he can find peace. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
One of the biggest things I always say, you know,
you guys had an opportunity to win, and that's like,
you know, that's not always a thing.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I know, Hey, do you think it would have been
like the team could have said, uh tin could the
approach car and his people and say, hey, we know
your salary for twenty twenty five is guaranteed at thirty million.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How about we just give you fifteen I mean, that
would have been.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
The right thing to do.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It's fully guaranteed, have surgery, you out for the year,
fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
No doubt about it. I'm going under the blade.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I don't have to do it anyway. He's going to have, yeah,
surgery anyway, because.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
If you had a surgery, he was gonna miss the
season anyway.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you could at least say, okay,
we'll give you fifteen million, Like, are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I just don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You guys are are I mean, you're accurate in what
I need.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
To go be to go be an agent, because whoever
his agent is is terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So from what I understand, you know, he heard his
you know, he played games last season, he ended up
hurting the shoulder, so his goal was to rehab the
shoulder without getting surgery on it. And that right there,
I think was the wrong move, you know, from the jump,
him saying that he's going to rehabit without getting surgery
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and then I'll, you know, I'll see how I feel
and after the draft or April May, whatever the case
may be. And then he gets back to throwing the football,
and now, you know, he comes out and says, okay,
I have a basically I still have the same injury
and has not healed, so therefore I'm going to retire.
I think he should have took the initiative of going
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to get the MR after the season and then making
the decision to say, you know what, I'm going to
get surgery. And maybe he still had the opportunity to
be the starter on opening day in September, because that
would have given him, you know, ten eleven months to
heal or get ready, but whatever the case may be.
But trying to heal at this stage of your career,
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thirty plus years old, eleven years in this business and
you're just going to try to rehabit without surgery. I
think that was a wrong move by him. But yet
and still I'm still going to get that surgery so
I can get my as absolutely. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think maybe he felt as though once he knew
he was going to need surgery because maybe he didn't
want to get the surgery. Know, some some dudes ain't
into like going under that blade.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
If LeVar go under it, would he have to hap
it just for quality of life?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Even Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't know, because if it were that he was
going to inevitably need to get the surgery, surgery.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He still needs a surgery. So now he's going to
get the surgery with no cheat.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But he might not have known that he was going
to have to get the surgery that he was entitled to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
It was a pay surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, no doubt. Oh listen, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And his insurance believe you me that whatever insurance is
going on. And however that that situation, if he's got
to get surgery, is I mean, it's going to be
taken care of. I mean, I don't. I don't see
that being any type of an issue. And he's probably
going to get a medical settlement out of that situation.
I mean, I'm sure there's other elements that are connected
to what's taking place with him, but.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
There's no medical settlement in this one. This one right here,
he opted out himself. This is not him being getting
hurt in a team releasing but he did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He did get hurt though it did come from him.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But the team did not release him or cut him.
While he was injured.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, well yeah, there you go. Yeah yeah, right, yeah,
I mean I don't know what what how it'll all
play out. I'm sure they will have those conversations though,
one hundred percent like they will have those conversations, and
and whatever that is that they come up with, they'll
they'll come up with something. They ain't going to just be,
you know, nothing, there'll there there will be some type
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of something. And and and as the New Orleans Saints
should be involved to a degree because he did hurt
himself in the game. Now, whatever happened after, you know,
after all of that and into the offseason, whatever, that's
a conversation. But I think there will be a conversation
had between both sides as to what takes place. But anyway,
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congratulations on a good career. Derek Carr has announced that
he's retiring from the National Football League and obviously was
a member of the New Orleans Saints team.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Speaking of quarterbacks, Let's keep the thing quarterback friendly, keep
the quarterback conversation going on. You got many camps going
on in and around the league. The Cleveland Browns obviously
they held their mini camp, and well We're going to
have a discussion on that because one of the draft
pick quarterbacks were getting the first reps while the other wasn't,
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and that's going to be a conversation. We're also going
to get to George Pickens at some point too. Yep,
he was traded went to the Cowboys. I'm sure I
heard that. During the course of the week, we're going
to talk about all those things and more right here
on Up on Game.
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Hear what it is?
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That's why I'm so lit.
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if we get the opportunity and get some time, touch
on this Jordan Hudson conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You all know who Jordan Hudson is. Well, that's you know,
Bill Belichick's homie. We'll call it. How about that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But before we get to that, we will talk a
little George Pickens possibly, and we will certainly talk about
this topic right now, fellas, the mini camps are underway
and people are the young bucks are in and they're
getting the work in.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The free agents are getting their work.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
In, and well, Dylan Gabriel is getting the first team
QB reps for the Browns. We all know the Shador
Sanders conversation and everything that has surrounded him coming out
of the draft, going into the draft as well, it's
been the biggest story for the NFL. But Dylan Gabriel
was the third round pick to Chador being the fifth
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round pick. This is what Kevin Stefanski had to say
about the reps they are getting in practice.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, I wouldn't look into anything. I think you'll see
the whole weekend going through the spring. I mean, we
don't pay too close attention to who's in their.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
First, all right, so they don't pay attention to who
was in there first. I think we all know that's
cap You definitely pay attention because the reps are limited.
But I want to throw this one out at you guys.
You have a I think a very real interesting situation
here Deshaun Watson. I think he's out as the quarterback.
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I don't think he'll ever play another down for Cleveland Browns.
So while he is considered a quarterback that's on the roster,
I don't look at him as being how they're going
to determine what their quarterback room looks like. So that
leaves Flacko, Picket, Dylan, and Sanders on the team. Now,
I made this bold proclamation dur in the week fellas,
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and I know it might sound outland and it might
sound crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Walk me back. I feel like this you're in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
North Stefanski, although having great success winning Coach of the
Year awards in previous years, is really in my estimation
on a super super scorching hot hot seat this upcoming season, Fellas,
you don't have a quarterback perceivably, it's not established. This
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could be a do or die year for this coaching
staff and whether they keep their job. So now with
that being said, you bring in Flacco, you bring in
Pickett because Deshaun Watson has a setback and the injury,
it sounds like they're moving on. As I mentioned, you
have Flacco, approven quarterback with experience, but he's old. Can
he hold up? Can he be a good player at
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this point in his career question mark? But I think
that I think going into it, probably the most confidence
is in Joe Flacco. He has a history of having
success with the team. They let him go, they've brought
him back. You bring pick it in. He's not proven,
but he does have experience and direct experience in the
AFC North, obviously getting drafted by the Steelers and playing
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for the Steelers before getting sent away to the Eagles,
which by the way, he got an opportunity to learn
with Jalen Hurts and win a Super Bowl with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he has.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Experienced, but he's relatively largely unproven in terms of, you know,
being able to win and win in the AFC North.
Then that brings you down. You round out the bottom
with a third round drive pick in a successful college
career and winner, and Dylan Gabriel led the Oregon Ducks
and after a transfer, obviously to winning the Big Ten
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title in their inaugural year. I hate to admit it,
but they did in their inaugural year in the Big Ten.
And then the probably the biggest surprising deal of it
all is they get Shador Sanders in the fifth round.
Now I set the table to say on those things,
fellas that I think that it is hard to carry
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more than three quarterbacks on a roster, and that third one,
in my estimation, is probably a practice squad guy. So
one of these guys has to go. I do not
believe that Flacco or Picket will go because of what
I just detailed. Now with Dylan and Sanders, I think
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they're both battling it out for that third string quarterback
slash practice squad quarterback, which means that there's a strong
possibility that one of these guys are going to get
let go. I seem to think I believe, and y'all
walk it the way y'all want to walk it. There's
a strong possibility that Shador Sanders is not a Cleveland
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Brown by the time we get to the final roster
of what the Cleveland Browns will look like. I think
Shador Sanders gets an opportunity at some point, But I
don't believe that this scenario, now that I've thought about
it and went over it and went through it, I
don't know that that opportunity. I don't believe that that
opportunity may be in Cleveland. I think he needs to
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build his resume as much as he possibly can in
terms of his reputation and whatever that may look like
to people. But I think it happens with another team.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
What say, y'all, I mean, that's very possible. I've been
told from somebody that has a good understanding of what's
going on, Canny Picket or Dylan Gabriel will be the starter.
That's what I've been told. One of those two will
be the starter. Flack On Shadar will battle to be
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the number three.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
For SUTURE.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
When you're drafted that late. Let's just be honest that
it's very possible that you can get released. Now I
doubt that that happens. It really is gonna come down
to how does he look at OTA's how does he
look in mini camp, how will he look in training camp?
And now the preseason games. That is going to be
critical for him because there's just some players where you
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may if people didn't think Shadu was good in uh
in shorts, when you put the helm in the shorter
pads on, it's a different ball game. Now when when
it's live and you can get hit and you got
a process and you got to get rid of that ball,
it's a different ball game. And so when that comes
around in August, we don't see. But what I've been told,
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Kenny Picker or Dylan Gabriel is gonna be the starter.
Shadur and Joe Flacca will battle for the third quarterback
in spot. And if Flacco wins it, do they push
your during the practice? Try to release them. If Shadur
wins it, Flacco's gonna be released.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, you know, it's so many, you know, different, you
know scenarios I think that they're dealing with from a
quarterbacks then point. You know, LeVar just touched on. You
know you're in the AFC North. You need defense for
me if I'm the Cleveland Browns knowing what I know, now,
I'm going defense. I'm gonna take Abduke Carter at number two,
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and I'm going to have Miles Garrett and Abduke Carter
bookends on my defense, and I still could have got
your door come back around in the third or fourth round.
So that's if you ask me, I'm going I'm playing defense.
Because if you think, if you're going into the season
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saying that Kenny Pickett's going to be your starter, then
why would you trade away your second pick to Jacksonville,
trade away take to trade away Travis Hunter. If you
already have it in your plans that Kenny Picktt is
going to be your starter, why would you take a
Dylan Gabriel and as your Door Sanders in the third
and fifth round. That absolutely makes zero sense to me.
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So there can only be three spots on this on
this roster for in the NFL team from a quarterback standpoint,
So what happens if Dylan Gabriel goes out there, he's
taking all your number one reps, Shardor goes in takes
reps and Shadoor centers looks better than anybody everybody, So
what do you do now moving forward? If you're Kevin
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Sefanski and his team.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't think it's ever. I think when it's UH
and you guys both you guys will both know this.
When you're drafted so late in a or you come
in as a free agent, it becomes a numbers game.
It's not even really based upon.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
It becomes a game if you're not getting reps, if
you're going out there playing the position and you're looking
halfway decent, or you're looking good or better than the
guys at that drafting in front of you. For him,
I don't think it's a numbers game because I think
that he's a better pure quarterback than Dylan Graybild from
his start.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I don't believe it's I don't believe it's the numbers
of games with him.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I think it happens quite a bit with late round
draft picks. They have phenomenal preseasons and they end up
getting cut just like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I mean, that's just what I've seen.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I just don't I don't know. It kind of takes
me back to the whole, you know, the size thing. Nobody.
I don't think that Dylan Gabriel will come into this,
come into the league at his size and be able to,
you know, survey defenses, be a pocket quarterback at five nine,
five ten or whatever the case may be. It's kind
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of the same thing. I wouldn't say that he's a
better quarterback than Bryce Young, and we look at some
of the struggles that he's been having his first two
years in the league. From a pure quarterback and standpoint,
he's not a better quarterback than Bryce Young. So so
what do you go from there? Do you think that
he's a better quarterback? Was he a better quarterback in
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college than Shador Sanders was? Or do you think he's
a better quarterback as a professional quarterback then Shador Sanders be.
I don't think that's going to be the case at all.
If he does get cut, it won't be because of
his performance.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's probably going to be based upon the numbers game.
That's what I'm just I mean, I think that that again,
if we're I I took I removed the emotions, I
removed the names. I just looked at it from a
pure sensible standpoint in terms of what's the plausibility of
a quarterback being in Shador Sanders situation making the roster.
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It's not plausible in any other circumstance. If we were
to just say you brought it in a very very
probably considered to be the toughest division in the league,
you know, people would say argue, maybe some other ones,
I mean the North NFC North did pretty well this
past year. You could maybe argue to admit, some people
would say AFC West. Some people would debate that, but
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no one will ever debate that the AFC North is
always in the conversation for toughest division, especially boasting really
really strong defenses. I think that it's very hard to
put the the concept that you put out there TJ
and saying that it's between Pickett and Dylan Dylan Gabriel.
And the reason why I think that that's a difficult
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one is, for one, I don't think you're gonna walk
a Dylan Gabriel out and start him.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I just don't think he's going He's not going to
be a starter.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Games Dylan Gabrils starting college.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Man, I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I don't. I don't care. I don't really be I
really don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think putting yourself in a situation where you put
a Dylan Gabriel or a Shador Sanders or any of
these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
To be honest, I mean, it could have been the
kid that went number one, cam Ward. I don't care
what their name is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
If it's not a Joe Burrow type guy or Lamar
Jackson type guy that is a transcendent, transcending type of
player and talent, I think that that is a rough
go to be a starter in the AFC North as
a rookie, especially a third round draft pick.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Ask Kenny Pickett and look at what happened to Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
And listen though the Cleveland Browns, we don't know this
what I'm they may be tanking for a quarterback for
next year.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Guys, they may not care.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
We heard that.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
In that scenario, they may just throw whomever out there.
And if the kid can play, oh wow, it's a revelation.
If somebody fall, somebody's got to take the fall for
that though.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
TJ like, and if i'm if, I am Kevin Stefanski,
I am not willing to take.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
The fall to get Archie Manning.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I'm not because if if, if, what you're saying is
true and we're going to tank the season, try to
get Archie Manning that has nothing to do with my
job security. That has absolutely zero to do with my
job security. I gotta win in I'm not gonna make it.
I'm not gonna make it through an entire season tanking
to get Archie Manning if I'm the head coach, So
why would I Why would I ever put a guy
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in there that's gonna basically take away my ability to
be the head coach of this team. I wouldn't do that,
And that's why I wouldn't put I wouldn't put Dylan
Gabriel in there either.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Go good God, I just I just don't think right now,
anybody in the front office for the Cleveland Browns with
the five or six quarterbacks that you look at in
that quarterback when we're back right now, has drastically changed
the projection of this football team.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Joe the playoffs last year there, Joe Flacco's last year there,
he led them to the playoffs. Believe he won, he
won Comeback Player of the Year with that that that
performance that he put forth when he took over for
Watson's I believe that's why they brought him back.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Can you at least agree with that, Joe, Joe Flacco
is the best option for this, I believe that. I
believe that to be true, so your reports are accurate.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't understand why why Joe Flacco is fighting for
a roster spot when he was the reason why they
made it the playoffs when he last played for the
tape because a.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Year they don't they don't want to go to the
playoffs with Joe Flacco as their quarterback because where's the future.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
There is a future.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
There is no future.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
There is no future in that. But there's Joe there
you have. Yeah, there is their best option. They need
a quarterback for the future. That's what they need. They
need a quarterback for the.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So and shador sand those are the best two options
that you have right now moving forward for the Cleveland
Browns for the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
And if one of them plays well, there's a quarterback
of the future. And if they do not, I don't
I don't believe either one of them plays that well.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't see how they get the opportunity. We can
you Pickett and Joe Flacco being on the roster. Again,
if you look at it from a plausible, sensible perspective,
Joe Flacco comes in as he's a he's aware and
familiar with the offensive terminology in the skin.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
He's had success in the scheme.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He has had success and has unlimited experience and has
won a super Bowl coming out of the AFC North.
If I'm going to leverage this season, I'm leveraging that
season going in with Flacco, and if Flaco can hold
up physically, then in my estimation, I gotta have pick
it on on reserve. I do not believe a third
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round draft pick or a fifth round draft pick will
get enough reps to be able to supplant the number
two guy, which means, now one of those two have
to go, because you're not going to carry four quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
On your roster.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
You'll carry three, and you will put one, You'll put
that one, that third one on your practice squad while
you have two active quarterbacks. And I do not see
that being both of those guys that got drafted, which
means one of those draft picks is going to get
let go. That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But we'll happen.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Well, have the Everybody knows Flacco is the best quarterback
on the roster. Everybody knows that the Cleveland Browns have
a plan. And let's see if it falls the way
they wanted to fall.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, well, they gonna fall, for certain, but how far
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A lot of people wobble wobble and they don't fall down,
but the Cleveland Browns have been known to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Anyway, Let's get a trending from Eyelaw.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I told joall we was going to try to get
to George Pickens and Jordan Hudson, but we're gonna talk
Pickens next, but first, let's get a trending from Isaac
Loewen Cron what you got?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
And I got more quarterback news today because four time
Pro Bowl QB Derek Carr is retiring after eleven seasons
because of a torn laborm as well as significant degenerative
changes to his rotator cuff. Car said of his career
in a statement today, I've been incredibly blessed and forever
grateful and humbled by this experience. In the NBA Playoffs.
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On Friday night, Denver defeated Oklahoma City at overtime one
thirteen to one oh four for a two games to
one lead. Today's action tips off at three point thirty
Eastern with Game three from Madison Square Garden and the
New York Nicks leading the Boston Celtics two games to
none and the Stanley Cup playoffs. On Friday night, the
Winnipeg Jets shut out the Dallas Stars for nothing to
tie the series at one. And in Major League Baseball
(35:10):
on Friday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers scored six runs
in the top of the ninth inning to win at
Arizona fourteen to eleven, including sho Hey O'tani's go ahead
three run home run, his twelfth of the season, and
Jason Dominguez of the New York Yankees hit three home
runs in three consecutive at bats, including a grand slam.
He also homeward from both sides of the plate in
(35:33):
a ten two victory over the A's guys. Back to you,
dang switch hitter, Dune Thanky, ill appreciate it. Hey, listen,
we're gonna take a quick break. On the other side
of break. Here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We're gonna talk Jordan Hudson, Yeah, and unc facilities, you know,
University of North Carolina. We're going to talk that we're
gonna take George Pickens into our two when we bring
cuffs the legend in because he could talk about football
too as well as basketball. So that's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna take a quick break on the other side
of We're going talk to UNC football facilities, rumors, all
(36:03):
that on.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
S up on Game. Yup, it's TJ.
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Speaker 3 (36:21):
All right, all right, welcome back into the show. It's
up on Game.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You know what it is.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We got hour two coming at you soon. We got
cups to legend coming on from some dude show as
well in hour two. But first, before we get to
the breaking into the hour fellas, we got a couple
minutes the whole Jordan Hudson, who is the girlfriend of
Bill Belichick, the new head coach of the UNC Tar
Hills football team. There were reports that came out on
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Friday that she was the girlfriend of Bill Belichick, that
is was banned from the football facilities.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Comes out.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
UNC comes out and denies that that took place. What
needs to happen here, fellas, because this doesn't seem to
be a story that is going.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
To go away.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Is Bill Belichick making a bad move here by not
nipping this in the bud? How should this be approached?
And who should be the one that's the catalyst of it?
Should be you and see the school? Should it be
Bill Belichick the coach? Who should have be a team effort?
Should it be Jordan herself the girlfriend Hudson that says,
I'm going to remove myself from the situation and not
be confusion on the program?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
What do you think should happen here?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Man?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Really?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
This really boggles my mind because again, the Bill Belichick
that was portrayed to everybody with the New England Patriots,
this goes against everything that we thought he was. You
couldn't even I remember somebody playing with the Patriots telling
me Bill Belichick told everybody it's probably gonna be a snowstorm.
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I don't care what you do. Nobody better be late
to practice. So if you got to stay at a hotel,
stay at a hotel. One of his best players was
late daily is time Thomas. Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't
get out his garage because it was packed.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
By the time he got the practice, Bill Belichick cust him.
I sent him home and find him and then he
got cut. I'm like, bro, what you're supposed to do?
Walk to practice? Now? I weren't like you were that strict,
knowing it's the way, and all this is getting out
over a twenty four year old woman that you're dating,
and she's running the show like it seems as if
(38:38):
she's running the show. I mean, for me, I have
no words because to Bill Belichick that we were that
we thought how he was in New England is a
complete opposite of what we see and we're hearing of
what's going.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
On at the University of North Carolina. I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I don't believe that she's really running the show at all.
I really don't believe that just happens to be that
as Bill Belichick probably the greatest coach of all time,
and this girl being at its twenty four, she's attractive,
and nobody thought that Bill even had this, you know,
in his back pocket, so to speak. But obviously none
of this stuff is true. If the university comes out
(39:18):
and says that one of these things are true about
the Jordan Hutches. She's still allowed in the facilities, but
it remains a distraction because everybody keeps talking about it. Yeah,
so I think that he needs us to come out
and say, listen, everything's fine. She's brooking in the facility.
(39:38):
You know she's my girlfriend. Get over it, move on,
let's continue to play football. I think that's what needs
to happen. Just put it to bed, put it the rest,
and I think everybody will have a better understanding of
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, it's definitely become a topic of conversation, and I
wonder how much pressure puts on Bill Belichick to have
success in his inaugural year with the UNC Tar Hills
leading and coaching this team. The only reason why it's
the topic again is because of the age gap and
the age difference. It'll be interesting to see if she
(40:14):
if she leans into it, like I'm getting a lot
of attention, because the appearance is that she seems to
like it. It seems like she likes the attention. But
I'll say this, it seems like Bill Belichick likes the
attention too. So we'll see out all played. Much like
what y'all just said about this, relationship. We're gonna just
let it be what is going to be, and we're
(40:34):
gonna put it to bid. Talking about this hour up
on Game, we got hour two coming at you in
a matter of moments, that's right. We got Cuffs the
Legend coming up. We're gonna talk NBA playoffs, and we're
gonna wanna start off with George Pickens as well.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
This is up on Game, this is Fox Sports Radio.
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