February 4, 2020 • 29 mins
On this edition of the best of Straight Outta Vegas, RJ Bell and the crew recap the Chiefs big win, including Patrick Mahomes winning the MVP and the Chiefs penchant for comebacks. The guys reflect on a Patrick Mahomes related prop bet, and look ahead to next year!
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You're listening to Fox Sports Where you got home? This
is Straight out of Vegas with the Voice of Vegas,
your host R. J. Bow Man collect nat the pregame
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show America has always wanted from the veggest strap, here's
our J bow Always good to be here are Jane
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Yes On a day in which we've got a horrendous
bad beat in the Super Bowl, we've got to look
ahead to the future in the National Football League? What
is the Vegas League? Here in straight out of Vegas,
this is the easiest one. I think it's the Super Bowl.
I think out would happened. And it's the Kansas City
Chiefs Super Bowl champions after a thin over the San
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Francisco forty Niners last night in Miami. Patrick Mahomes is
your m v P. Yeah, well we can start there.
Does anyone feel like that if Mahomes won it this year?
Tell me the scenario that a team wins in their
quarterback doesn't get the m v P. Meaning Mahomes played fine,
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but I mean, and he made some plays that no
one else can make. But wouldn't this uh what Williams right,
the running back? Wouldn't you think that it was really
viable that he was in the mix. I don't think
he was in the mix. He had the one long
run at the end of the game when he just
needed to stop after the first down, and that that
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meta game mistake is what I You know, I hate
meta game mistake. Well, you think you'd make last of
him when you go heads up with me? Excellent points, Brad.
I mean if you had a twenty five to one,
I think I'd be upset. I would have thought Damian
Williams should have won it, because I mean until the
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final seven minutes of that game, Patrick Mahomes arguably played
the worst game of the year for him so far.
What do you think I would have gone with Mahomes?
I had no issue with it. He had the rushing touchdown.
He had a couple of those touchdowns as well too
in the air. Up until that point, Damian Williams probably
was the best chief. But up until that point, it
looked up until what point, up until about seven minutes
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to go in the game. But well, wait a minute,
who could have been the best chief before that other
than him? No, Damian Williams, That's what I was saying. Yeah,
I think unequivocally, but I think at that point, I
think we all expected that San Francisco was gonna win
the game with the way that they were playing. Patrick
Mahomes is the reason they got back in the game
and one which is why I'm okay with him winning
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m VP. I think that's a I think it's valid.
I think I could have seen either way. I know
if I had ticket in my pocket, i'd be lamenting it.
But I don't bet those ones, so no worries. Everything's fine,
but it does beg the question, Steve, and for next year,
we gotta put in our pocket. This is how you
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keep winning. You put this stuff in your pocket. We
gotta put in the pocket, do we? Is the quarterback
a proxy for the team? Meaning if I like Kansas City,
I might as well play my homes for m v
P because it's gonna be so rare that the quarterback.
And maybe there's gonna be certain types of teams in
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the future, and Jimmy Jean I'd have been one of
those examples. I mean, if San fran wins, does Jimmy
g get the m v P. Maybe not? I mean
who does Jonas? I think Jimmy Garoppolo at SAMPP, Yeah,
if they would have won, Yeah, Steve, if Azzig had
a vote, he'd say, yes, yeah, I know that much.
Eebo Samuel is another guy you could make somewhat of
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an argument for, but he didn't score, so I would
say probably Garoppolo nice. So if even in that case,
I think if Jimmy G comes back and has that
last drive, he does for sure. Right, so fast you had,
We're gonna go through all the props that you won.
But you had under Jimmy G yards too, right, So
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you don't win by that much show, not one by
twenty yards. Yeah, but let's just say this, when it
was first in ten, that last set of downs for
San fran probably a slight underdog. I think you're under
dog twenty yards at that point, I think you're saying slights.
Why I've been killing you lately, Brad? What do you
think when you saw the ticket when fezes in like
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row forty some and I'm in first class, it didn't
surprise me. It was so great, I mean, and that
was money that you want off of PA exactly. I
took his money and I brought a first class ticket
and tounted him and r J. I was in coach
and the guy the guy next to me talked up
to eight thousand feet of altitude, violating f a A regulations.
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That's the pheasant m R J. Bell were straight out
of Vegas, Brad. You were talking before the show. Hey,
San France maybe should have won the game. They were
right in it. Blah blah blah. Make the case. Yeah.
So to me, it came down to two plays, the
first one being the third and fifteen play that Kansas
City made when a San Francisco corner cornerback playing zon't
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cover it just turned the wrong way. If he turns
right instead of left, I mean he covers tyre killed.
It was a poorly thrown underthrown ball by Patrick Mahomes.
There they get lucky because no one was within ten yards,
so that goes Kansas City's way. The other play is
the very next drive for San Francisco with them, you know,
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an open wide receiver deep and Jimmy g overthrows him.
Those are the two players that really stick out to me.
If they could both go San Francisco's way, I think
they win the game. So here's my point. I think
he's right in the way he's explaining it. I think
the conclusion is wrong. What was it about the forty
niners that worried me? I had Kansas City as my
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best bet. I was wrong in a way, though, I'll
admit San Francisco's D was better than I thought and
we still won. That shows you what I thought was
the case, which is, if San franci d is truly
world class, then this is an even game. And this
was an even game. I doubted it was world class,
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but we still had a fifty percent chance of winning.
It feels even when it was forty nine is showing themselves.
I think their defense to be super, world class, elite,
whatever you wanna call it. Okay, but we were concerned
with Jimmy G. We painted the picture faz go Ahead
painted yeah. Bottom line. We said, hey, if it's the
fourth quarter in this game, is really imagine seventeen seventeen
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all that type of score? Who do you want? Do
you want Mahomes or do you want him? And let's
be honest, let's make it even more specific. What I
said was, there's three minutes left, they got the ball
in their own is Jimmy G down four? You need
a touchdown to win? How confident are you now? Flip
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it the other way, how confident are you? Exactly right?
Let's face it, Brad, you said Mahomes badly under threw
Tyreek Hill. I would say that's part of his improvisation.
He saw how wide open he was, and he just said,
you know what, let's make sure he catches it. I'm
not gonna lead him, gonna go ahead and throw it
a little bit behind him. Make sure it's a completion.
The second thing about Kansas City that was superior to
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me was they are in a modern we could say
the first team ever to be quite like this. We're
they're thrown haymakers. You know. The analogy I've heard is
the Golden State Warriors from five years ago. The NBA
was a certain way, and then gold State came along
and they played differently, more modern, more pressure. Pressure is
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then we're gonna shoot threes and when we're hot, you're done.
And when we're not hot, I hope we don't get
hot before the game is over because we're gonna come back.
Isn't that what Kansas City is a great analogy. You
think about it all during the playoffs, Kansas City downten
and each and every playoff game you get up to
use the bathroom. You come back five minutes later, boom,
they got the lead. Just like the Warriors when Steph
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starts raining threes down on you. That's the physic m
R J. Bell. We are straight out of Vegas. Let's
talk about those comebacks. We got some numbers here. These
are impressive numbers. So in three straight games, Kansas City
was down double digits and then they came back to
win by double digits. Now only one point five percent,
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so one and a half percent of NFL games ever
have that happened. Down doubles, win by double in a season. Now,
Kansas City has done that four times, three straight and
then one prior. Only two teams ever in the last
thirty plus years. That's how far back our database goes.
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So thirty plus years, only two teams other than Kansas
City did it three times in the season. So literally
Kansas City is alone at four. Only two teams out
of like nine some If you think about thirty some years,
thirty teams a year ever even did it three times.
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They did it three times in a row. No team
ever has even done it twice in a row. So
think about that Downtown win by down by double digits,
win by double digits three times in a row, and
no other team has done it more than once in
a row. This is and it's three games in the
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playoffs against the lead competition with the last one to
win the Super Bowl. I mean, this is fundamental. You
can make the cases Kansas City team is fundamentally changing
the way football is being played. Last thing on these comebacks,
double digit down, double digit win, one and a half
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percent chance each game to do it three straight games
is over three hundred thousand to one. So if I
would have came in and said, Jonas, I gotta gotta
in hankering, I got a premonition Kansas City is gonna
be down double digits and win by double digits in
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three straight games, including the Super Bowl, the odds of
me being right there would have been over three hundred thousands,
like a third of a million to one. It's that
unlikely what we've seen. You think, what would I bet
you on it? No, I'm saying is is the idea
that what we've seen here is so unlikely? Yeah? No.
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And and the fact that they got down early and
it was different types of trailing early onto Houston, it
was sort of they hit you in the mouth. Tennessee
was similar to that, but they were a team that
ran the football, so you thought they could protect a
lead a little bit more. And then this one was
I think the most egregious because it was late in
the fourth quarter. Mahomes was playing by far and away,
the worst playoff game of his career, and still not
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only did they win, they won by double digits, no doubt.
And they covered every one of those games obviously. So
here's what we're gonna do up next. We are going
to go through play by play one of the worst
beats ever. Some would say this was as bad as
a be as a've ever had, and unfortunately we were
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right in the middle of it. But luckily it was
pretty much the only loss we had yesterday. We'll go
over that too. Be sure to catch live editions of
Straight Out of Vegas weekdays at six pm Eastern three
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app so r J. One of the bets that
you guys have been all over at the start of
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the Super Bowl preview was Patrick Mahomes and his over
of rushing yards, which opened up at twenty eight and
a half for Super Bowl fifty four. But unfortunately things
took a little bit of a turn for people who
didn't get in on it early enough. Late in that
game yesterday. Well yeah, it was one of those. Man,
if you got the right number, you were lucky. And
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we'll talk about that. Now. Let's agree to the following.
I gave Brad Power's credit on this bat On Sunday show.
So now luckily Brad's here, he gets either credit or blame.
But I blame is not the word. Let's just say
that because this was atrocious. So let's set the scene.
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There's less than a minute left, right, San France had
some time outs, but the game was over. It was
an eleven point game. I get the whole call time outs,
but come on, I guess they could get more commercials in.
I don't know, I mean think about that. Actually, I'd
be in try. I wonder if the league tells him
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call your time outs no matter what at the end,
But I wonder would you would you bet yes or no?
Like do the does the lead communicate to the coaches
if it's late and even you're out of it, call
your time outs because if it gets them a couple
more commercials, that's millions and millions of dollars. Huh, Jonas,
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when you get those special emails that only true insider
media people get, did you see anything about that? I
didn't see anything like it, but I hope that it's
true because I love conspiracies. So that alright. So at
this point, the number of rush yards the over under
opened around twenty nine yards for Mahomes. Brad came in,
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he goes over, over, this one's easy, this one's like
over before it starts kind of talk and is that fair?
I'm might be a little exaggeration, but close. It got
bad up and every day he'd come in and say, yeah,
that beds up to thirty three yards twenty nine. I
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gave it on and it was like, all right, where
did it close? Fast? Four and a half and it
was up the thirty five right, so get a little
by a little late by back on game day. Okay,
it was forty four yards Jonas, it was forty four
yards Mahomes. So Mahomes has forty four yards rushing. The
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game's freaking over. But let's not forget Jonas so prescient, Lee,
almost like you had a crystal ball. You asked us
a question on Sunday about this. Yeah, I asked, would
you guys feel bad if it had already hit the
over of twenty eight and a half, which you guys had,
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and for people that couldn't get it in at that number,
if Mahomes took a couple of knees and ended up losing,
if he took a couple of knees from missing a
couple of yards, So for those people, would you guys
feel bad? And you even acknowledged yesterday that you would
have felt bad because that would be a bad way
to lose. It's interesting because even you acknowledged, like like
a sociopath, like you acknowledge. But I'll be candid, Jones.
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You asked some great questions, but sometimes you ask questions,
you know how like your parents asked questions about technology,
you know, or your eye an or your uncle and
it's like, so this DVR, where where do they keep
the tapes? You know? And you just kind of say,
it's okay, I got it right, So you us about that.
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I was trying to be polite, but I was thinking,
what's he talking about? We're fine? And we were, because
when you're at forty four yards and the over under
twenty and you're fine, all right. You ever see Tom
Brady do the Neil snaps the balls? So on first
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down Jonas would happen. Well, so he's got forty four yards.
Patrick mahomes for the game rushing, and on first down,
under a minute to go at their own forty one
yard line, the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback decides to take
a knee. But it's not a normal need. We're fine, Yeah,
not a normal need though. He took five yards back,
So now we're down to thirty nine yards on yards?
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But how where is that? I never see it? I
see it in college, Brad, you see it in college, right,
It's it's done in college sometimes. Yeah, when they're trying
to specifically run clock and Jonas. It might be the
final kneel down and they're running around and they take
a lot of yards, but you never see it. I'm
never down, never, all right, So they made their point.
I'm figuring at this point, let's go, so time out.
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I don't understand why. Again, conspiracy theory would say legal office,
who knows it. I don't even know if we have
tape at Shanahan calling the time out. I don't know.
Second down and so second down, Patrick Mahomes takes another knee,
this time for minus three yards, so a little bit
more reasonable compared to the five from the first knee
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he took. All right, So I'm doing some back of
the napkin math here. We're down to thirty six. You're five.
I mean even the five was crazy. Now if you
got in late, hey, tough freaking luck. You know why,
because you should listen every day. That's my theory. So
third down, third down, he went for five, then he
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went to three. If you follow the trend, you assume, okay,
well we're gonna knock off another two, yeah, or even one.
You know, they made their point, like you said. But
instead Patrick Mahomes decides, you know what, let me go
ahead and milk as much clock as possible, and he
takes a knee for minus seven yards. Now, quick math,
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We're down to twenty nine. At this point, I'm scrambling
to get the screenshot on my ticket. And this is
time to give Steve Fazik some credit, because even if
you were betting early, there were twenty nines out there. Brad.
You you your second bite at the apple, you had
twenty nine and a half. Now, when did you bet
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that like right after yeah, right when we gave it out.
So literally, you get off air and you bet it
over twenty nine and a half, but you had a
little twenty eight and a half. First bite was twenty
eight and a half. Second and a half though, he
has twenty nine outs, so he got me a twenty
eight and a half. So I'm like, who did it?
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Dawned on me? Wait a minute, they're not punt. I
had thirty one and a half and your thirty three
dollars just five. Yeah, So so Mahomes is sitting He's
sitting at twenty nine yards now, so he's just lost
fifteen yards of rushing on three kneel downs for minus
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five minus three, and then an egregious minus seven. Kansas
City calls the time out with five seconds left. There's
one more play to go. Maybe he'll run the ball,
get out of bounds or something like that. Instead, he
takes a shotgun throw, throws the football as high as
he can in the air, and the clock runs out
and he finishes with twenty nine rushing yards. Sure, now, listen,
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I'm very self interested. I do feel it for the audience.
This one's so brutal, and I tweeted this out with
our ticket some different faces to represent stress at our
Jane Vegas. I spent kind of a goofy amount of
time on this. You might want to check it out.
I feel bad. I mean, Brad, you're very self involved,
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but you were feeling bad. Explain your thinking. Well, it's just,
you know, only a very select few the Steve physics
of the world could get a number like this. A
lot of people listening may might have listened a little
bit late. First off, shame on you for listening late.
But I get it. You can't get the best of
the number. You don't have twenty nine outs to get.
You know, even if you got right to lose, and
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the thing it is, even the kneel downs, a typical
kneel down, you're gonna lose maybe two or three yards
of fine, still fine you would have been. And Kansas
City was down ten points in the fourth quarter, it
was unlikely they were even going to get the lead
to have to take any kneel downs. It's a hard
way to make an easy living now. Luckily it was
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pretty much the only thing we lost, and I still
want let's just start going through it. Kansas City winner
Best bat first score for a goal, bild goal plus
one sixty. I'm just messing around. Got a triple double,
no messing around, plus money payout. And wasn't it exactly
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like I predicted it? Exactly? Explain you said, Hey, conservative coaches,
they don't like to go for it. They want to
get on the scoreboard. Conservative coaches. I'm saying, any Super Bowl,
any Super Bowl coach right that even an aggressive coach
wants to set the tone and take the lead. So
we see San Francisco, they're driving up, look perfectly happy
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to get on the scoreboard. Robbie Gold take the three points?
What was it fourth? And what like two or something too? Yes,
I think of the regular season they go for it. Ye,
quite possible. It's almost like I had a crystal ball.
But that wasn't the end of it, Fez Jimmy g
under yards under two thirty nine for Jimmy G. He
gets only eighty nine on the first half. Can't overcome it. Now,
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you had an interesting one number of carries. I didn't
even see how that went. Yeah, I'm sorry. Number of
players who would have a carry for it's my only lost.
Kansas City under four and a half guys to rush
the ball. They had five r J. Three receivers all
got one carry, including Travis Kelsey, the tight end, who
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has one carry combined in the last two years. One
in the fourth quarter to put fault in the wound. Yes,
that hurt, but net and net you add up all
the picks, I show thirteen three and one in r J.
I give you kudos here. You were winning stuff before
the game even started. You said national anthem under way,
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under tails the coin toss winner, tales number fails, Jonas.
How do you feel when that happened? Oh? I felt great, now,
I I still would you like to hear my my
little roller coaster of bets here that I made, as
long as you tell us the exact amount of each beat, Okay,
I will. They were all for ten dollars each. Al right,
I will tell you that right off the bat, ten
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dollars each. I started out three, and oh I had tales,
as you mentioned, because of the advantage of the weighted
side of the coin and just sort of how that
would work. Um. I also had Jimmy Garoppolo throwing the
first touchdown pass of the game, so I called that,
and then I had the field goal being the first
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score of the game. So I took your advice on that.
So so lunch is on you next time. Yeah. Yeah.
Unfortunately though, I lost my next six, so I finished
three and six. Now we only lost three combined. So
how how is that? Exactly? You know, sometimes you think
you can swim before you actually can swim. You go
on the deep end and then you find out they've
got to send a boat out to rescue you. And
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that's apparently what I needed. Three and six Jonas Jonas
is a cautionary tale. I'm straight out of Vegas. Here
in Vegas, we've got Steve Pezik and Brad Powers. Fez
actually showed off a little bit. He gave us the
under in the first half and it was so nice.
I loved that bat love it as you give me
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an extra nickel just right before the game. I was
very happy about that. Yes, and when it was twenty,
when it was ten, ten, twenty points and you had
the under twenty seven, You're like, okay, first case push exactly.
It's almost like worst case pushing are bad about where
the line would close, but for me not, Oh you
took advantage of me. But how is that? Do you
know I was too proud, too much pride double it.
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But the funny thing is I offered you to double
about ten other times you said no. Then well, at
some point when four figures, Pride goes into the garbage can.
But then on Friday he said, I'm gonna flex a
little bit. The mother fer will say. He says, I'm
going to over second half. I want to be like
a Hedge fund under first half over second half winner.
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How did that feel? That felt real good? And we
had second half to outscore first half, so we really
doubled down on more scoring second half anything. What else
was there? It didn't feel like we missed any anything.
Huh oh, that's the purple gatorade didn't happen. Yeah, we
lost the Purple Gator the only other loser we lost
by one play first quarter. Brad, you had San Francisco
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in the first quarter and Kansasy score touchdown literally in
the last play of the first quarter. No, I'm not
going to associate with that bad I had nothing to
do with. I had all Kansas City you had, so
let's be canning. Not many people followed that. That's right,
you had three straight scores. You talk about how good.
Not only did one team score three straight times, both
teams scored three straight times. Jonas, it's a celebration. It
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is for you, guys. Be sure to catch live editions
of Straight Out of Vegas weekdays at six pm Eastern,
three pm Pacific. You might think it's too early for this.
We don't care. This is great and it tells you
because it's not always like the champion that's gonna be favorite.
Sometimes it's like, hey, this guy's retiring, or we think
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this team's trending down. So right now, Brad Power's you
got the numbers, champion title wards the favorite. The favorite
is the super Bowl champ, the defending Super Bowl champ,
Kansas City Chiefs plus six fifty so six and a
half to one. It goes to show you, no matter
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what in the NFL, you can be the best quarterback
of all time. And I would make the case. And
Jonas was trying to buck me in Miami, and he
wasn't able to buck me in Miami. I asked you,
is my home? Is the way he's playing right now,
the greatest quarterback that ever walked the earth, And it's
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really hard to say he's not right. Yeah, I mean
I would say that now after a super Bowl and
what we've seen in the playoffs. Um, yeah, you could
make that argument. And again I asked you, this is
the same thing. It's almost like amnesia. He gave the
same noncommittal answer, and then I said, well, tell me
who it is. Then He's like, you know, you're probably right, right.
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I would still say Brady Brady at what point was
playing this Wow, I'm not saying accumulated accomplishment, right, I'm
talking about the how well if he had a tech
mo or Madden number, Mahomes Madden number is better than
any quarterback ever. Yeah maybe that oh seven season, Yeah,
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but that was more about the supporting cast. Great, But
in theory, he should have been almost as good the
year before. You know, listen, I think Brady's to go.
But that's about accomplishment. I'm talking who's playing the best today.
I don't think you can argue it right now, or
not just today, but at any given point in history.
And still six and a half to one, meaning it's
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not even money, it's not two to one. Fez, what
was that ramsbat that you thought was so juicy? You
were so happy about that for about two months don't
girl stop showing up? Should have maybe the minute I
bet you started wondering. Second favor, Baltimore Ravens eight to one.
R J Boy Lamar Jackson. What a story. That's gonna
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be the the m v P. And now it's like
the playoff dud. Third favor nine to one. I think
Jimmy Gee is the only question. Let's give the nine
is credit. Great team, just doesn't they don't have a
great quarterback. Number four New England Patriots twelve to one.
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This is the first time the Pats haven't been one
of the top couple favorites in like twenty or like
like eighteen years. I'll do some research on it. It's unbelievable.
Then it's Saints, Cowboys, Steelers, Vikings. Yeah, cousin is gonna
win a Super Bowl? Alright, If you had to make
a bat right now, Jonas, if I gave you a
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free hundred out of my big pal, I'm not going
to what would you bet? I would bet Kansas City
again at six and a half to one is juice.
I don't think that's gonna last. I think that's gonna drop. Remember, guys,
I have it on tour. I'm putting on Twitter right
after the show my Monday shipment will call it, and uh,
it was a celebration. Tomorrow all the funds over what
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we'll have fun. The focus is going to be college
basketball m b A and starting to win there and
starting to know more than our buddies there
You're listening to Fox Sports Where you got home? This
is Straight out of Vegas with the Voice of Vegas,
your host R. J. Bow Man collect nat the pregame
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show America has always wanted from the veggest strap, here's
our J bow Always good to be here are Jane
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Yes On a day in which we've got a horrendous
bad beat in the Super Bowl, we've got to look
ahead to the future in the National Football League? What
is the Vegas League? Here in straight out of Vegas,
this is the easiest one. I think it's the Super Bowl.
I think out would happened. And it's the Kansas City
Chiefs Super Bowl champions after a thin over the San
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Francisco forty Niners last night in Miami. Patrick Mahomes is
your m v P. Yeah, well we can start there.
Does anyone feel like that if Mahomes won it this year?
Tell me the scenario that a team wins in their
quarterback doesn't get the m v P. Meaning Mahomes played fine,
(01:51):
but I mean, and he made some plays that no
one else can make. But wouldn't this uh what Williams right,
the running back? Wouldn't you think that it was really
viable that he was in the mix. I don't think
he was in the mix. He had the one long
run at the end of the game when he just
needed to stop after the first down, and that that
(02:12):
meta game mistake is what I You know, I hate
meta game mistake. Well, you think you'd make last of
him when you go heads up with me? Excellent points, Brad.
I mean if you had a twenty five to one,
I think I'd be upset. I would have thought Damian
Williams should have won it, because I mean until the
(02:33):
final seven minutes of that game, Patrick Mahomes arguably played
the worst game of the year for him so far.
What do you think I would have gone with Mahomes?
I had no issue with it. He had the rushing touchdown.
He had a couple of those touchdowns as well too
in the air. Up until that point, Damian Williams probably
was the best chief. But up until that point, it
looked up until what point, up until about seven minutes
(02:54):
to go in the game. But well, wait a minute,
who could have been the best chief before that other
than him? No, Damian Williams, That's what I was saying. Yeah,
I think unequivocally, but I think at that point, I
think we all expected that San Francisco was gonna win
the game with the way that they were playing. Patrick
Mahomes is the reason they got back in the game
and one which is why I'm okay with him winning
(03:14):
m VP. I think that's a I think it's valid.
I think I could have seen either way. I know
if I had ticket in my pocket, i'd be lamenting it.
But I don't bet those ones, so no worries. Everything's fine,
but it does beg the question, Steve, and for next year,
we gotta put in our pocket. This is how you
(03:36):
keep winning. You put this stuff in your pocket. We
gotta put in the pocket, do we? Is the quarterback
a proxy for the team? Meaning if I like Kansas City,
I might as well play my homes for m v
P because it's gonna be so rare that the quarterback.
And maybe there's gonna be certain types of teams in
(03:58):
the future, and Jimmy Jean I'd have been one of
those examples. I mean, if San fran wins, does Jimmy
g get the m v P. Maybe not? I mean
who does Jonas? I think Jimmy Garoppolo at SAMPP, Yeah,
if they would have won, Yeah, Steve, if Azzig had
a vote, he'd say, yes, yeah, I know that much.
Eebo Samuel is another guy you could make somewhat of
(04:19):
an argument for, but he didn't score, so I would
say probably Garoppolo nice. So if even in that case,
I think if Jimmy G comes back and has that
last drive, he does for sure. Right, so fast you had,
We're gonna go through all the props that you won.
But you had under Jimmy G yards too, right, So
(04:41):
you don't win by that much show, not one by
twenty yards. Yeah, but let's just say this, when it
was first in ten, that last set of downs for
San fran probably a slight underdog. I think you're under
dog twenty yards at that point, I think you're saying slights.
Why I've been killing you lately, Brad? What do you
think when you saw the ticket when fezes in like
(05:01):
row forty some and I'm in first class, it didn't
surprise me. It was so great, I mean, and that
was money that you want off of PA exactly. I
took his money and I brought a first class ticket
and tounted him and r J. I was in coach
and the guy the guy next to me talked up
to eight thousand feet of altitude, violating f a A regulations.
(05:24):
That's the pheasant m R J. Bell were straight out
of Vegas, Brad. You were talking before the show. Hey,
San France maybe should have won the game. They were
right in it. Blah blah blah. Make the case. Yeah.
So to me, it came down to two plays, the
first one being the third and fifteen play that Kansas
City made when a San Francisco corner cornerback playing zon't
(05:46):
cover it just turned the wrong way. If he turns
right instead of left, I mean he covers tyre killed.
It was a poorly thrown underthrown ball by Patrick Mahomes.
There they get lucky because no one was within ten yards,
so that goes Kansas City's way. The other play is
the very next drive for San Francisco with them, you know,
(06:07):
an open wide receiver deep and Jimmy g overthrows him.
Those are the two players that really stick out to me.
If they could both go San Francisco's way, I think
they win the game. So here's my point. I think
he's right in the way he's explaining it. I think
the conclusion is wrong. What was it about the forty
niners that worried me? I had Kansas City as my
(06:29):
best bet. I was wrong in a way, though, I'll
admit San Francisco's D was better than I thought and
we still won. That shows you what I thought was
the case, which is, if San franci d is truly
world class, then this is an even game. And this
was an even game. I doubted it was world class,
(06:50):
but we still had a fifty percent chance of winning.
It feels even when it was forty nine is showing themselves.
I think their defense to be super, world class, elite,
whatever you wanna call it. Okay, but we were concerned
with Jimmy G. We painted the picture faz go Ahead
painted yeah. Bottom line. We said, hey, if it's the
fourth quarter in this game, is really imagine seventeen seventeen
(07:13):
all that type of score? Who do you want? Do
you want Mahomes or do you want him? And let's
be honest, let's make it even more specific. What I
said was, there's three minutes left, they got the ball
in their own is Jimmy G down four? You need
a touchdown to win? How confident are you now? Flip
(07:35):
it the other way, how confident are you? Exactly right?
Let's face it, Brad, you said Mahomes badly under threw
Tyreek Hill. I would say that's part of his improvisation.
He saw how wide open he was, and he just said,
you know what, let's make sure he catches it. I'm
not gonna lead him, gonna go ahead and throw it
a little bit behind him. Make sure it's a completion.
The second thing about Kansas City that was superior to
(07:56):
me was they are in a modern we could say
the first team ever to be quite like this. We're
they're thrown haymakers. You know. The analogy I've heard is
the Golden State Warriors from five years ago. The NBA
was a certain way, and then gold State came along
and they played differently, more modern, more pressure. Pressure is
(08:21):
then we're gonna shoot threes and when we're hot, you're done.
And when we're not hot, I hope we don't get
hot before the game is over because we're gonna come back.
Isn't that what Kansas City is a great analogy. You
think about it all during the playoffs, Kansas City downten
and each and every playoff game you get up to
use the bathroom. You come back five minutes later, boom,
they got the lead. Just like the Warriors when Steph
(08:43):
starts raining threes down on you. That's the physic m
R J. Bell. We are straight out of Vegas. Let's
talk about those comebacks. We got some numbers here. These
are impressive numbers. So in three straight games, Kansas City
was down double digits and then they came back to
win by double digits. Now only one point five percent,
(09:09):
so one and a half percent of NFL games ever
have that happened. Down doubles, win by double in a season. Now,
Kansas City has done that four times, three straight and
then one prior. Only two teams ever in the last
thirty plus years. That's how far back our database goes.
(09:29):
So thirty plus years, only two teams other than Kansas
City did it three times in the season. So literally
Kansas City is alone at four. Only two teams out
of like nine some If you think about thirty some years,
thirty teams a year ever even did it three times.
(09:50):
They did it three times in a row. No team
ever has even done it twice in a row. So
think about that Downtown win by down by double digits,
win by double digits three times in a row, and
no other team has done it more than once in
a row. This is and it's three games in the
(10:14):
playoffs against the lead competition with the last one to
win the Super Bowl. I mean, this is fundamental. You
can make the cases Kansas City team is fundamentally changing
the way football is being played. Last thing on these comebacks,
double digit down, double digit win, one and a half
(10:35):
percent chance each game to do it three straight games
is over three hundred thousand to one. So if I
would have came in and said, Jonas, I gotta gotta
in hankering, I got a premonition Kansas City is gonna
be down double digits and win by double digits in
(10:55):
three straight games, including the Super Bowl, the odds of
me being right there would have been over three hundred thousands,
like a third of a million to one. It's that
unlikely what we've seen. You think, what would I bet
you on it? No, I'm saying is is the idea
that what we've seen here is so unlikely? Yeah? No.
(11:17):
And and the fact that they got down early and
it was different types of trailing early onto Houston, it
was sort of they hit you in the mouth. Tennessee
was similar to that, but they were a team that
ran the football, so you thought they could protect a
lead a little bit more. And then this one was
I think the most egregious because it was late in
the fourth quarter. Mahomes was playing by far and away,
the worst playoff game of his career, and still not
(11:40):
only did they win, they won by double digits, no doubt.
And they covered every one of those games obviously. So
here's what we're gonna do up next. We are going
to go through play by play one of the worst
beats ever. Some would say this was as bad as
a be as a've ever had, and unfortunately we were
(12:03):
right in the middle of it. But luckily it was
pretty much the only loss we had yesterday. We'll go
over that too. Be sure to catch live editions of
Straight Out of Vegas weekdays at six pm Eastern three
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app so r J. One of the bets that
you guys have been all over at the start of
(12:23):
the Super Bowl preview was Patrick Mahomes and his over
of rushing yards, which opened up at twenty eight and
a half for Super Bowl fifty four. But unfortunately things
took a little bit of a turn for people who
didn't get in on it early enough. Late in that
game yesterday. Well yeah, it was one of those. Man,
if you got the right number, you were lucky. And
(12:44):
we'll talk about that. Now. Let's agree to the following.
I gave Brad Power's credit on this bat On Sunday show.
So now luckily Brad's here, he gets either credit or blame.
But I blame is not the word. Let's just say
that because this was atrocious. So let's set the scene.
(13:08):
There's less than a minute left, right, San France had
some time outs, but the game was over. It was
an eleven point game. I get the whole call time outs,
but come on, I guess they could get more commercials in.
I don't know, I mean think about that. Actually, I'd
be in try. I wonder if the league tells him
(13:28):
call your time outs no matter what at the end,
But I wonder would you would you bet yes or no?
Like do the does the lead communicate to the coaches
if it's late and even you're out of it, call
your time outs because if it gets them a couple
more commercials, that's millions and millions of dollars. Huh, Jonas,
(13:50):
when you get those special emails that only true insider
media people get, did you see anything about that? I
didn't see anything like it, but I hope that it's
true because I love conspiracies. So that alright. So at
this point, the number of rush yards the over under
opened around twenty nine yards for Mahomes. Brad came in,
(14:13):
he goes over, over, this one's easy, this one's like
over before it starts kind of talk and is that fair?
I'm might be a little exaggeration, but close. It got
bad up and every day he'd come in and say, yeah,
that beds up to thirty three yards twenty nine. I
(14:33):
gave it on and it was like, all right, where
did it close? Fast? Four and a half and it
was up the thirty five right, so get a little
by a little late by back on game day. Okay,
it was forty four yards Jonas, it was forty four
yards Mahomes. So Mahomes has forty four yards rushing. The
(14:54):
game's freaking over. But let's not forget Jonas so prescient, Lee,
almost like you had a crystal ball. You asked us
a question on Sunday about this. Yeah, I asked, would
you guys feel bad if it had already hit the
over of twenty eight and a half, which you guys had,
(15:16):
and for people that couldn't get it in at that number,
if Mahomes took a couple of knees and ended up losing,
if he took a couple of knees from missing a
couple of yards, So for those people, would you guys
feel bad? And you even acknowledged yesterday that you would
have felt bad because that would be a bad way
to lose. It's interesting because even you acknowledged, like like
a sociopath, like you acknowledge. But I'll be candid, Jones.
(15:40):
You asked some great questions, but sometimes you ask questions,
you know how like your parents asked questions about technology,
you know, or your eye an or your uncle and
it's like, so this DVR, where where do they keep
the tapes? You know? And you just kind of say,
it's okay, I got it right, So you us about that.
(16:00):
I was trying to be polite, but I was thinking,
what's he talking about? We're fine? And we were, because
when you're at forty four yards and the over under
twenty and you're fine, all right. You ever see Tom
Brady do the Neil snaps the balls? So on first
(16:20):
down Jonas would happen. Well, so he's got forty four yards.
Patrick mahomes for the game rushing, and on first down,
under a minute to go at their own forty one
yard line, the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback decides to take
a knee. But it's not a normal need. We're fine, Yeah,
not a normal need though. He took five yards back,
So now we're down to thirty nine yards on yards?
(16:42):
But how where is that? I never see it? I
see it in college, Brad, you see it in college, right,
It's it's done in college sometimes. Yeah, when they're trying
to specifically run clock and Jonas. It might be the
final kneel down and they're running around and they take
a lot of yards, but you never see it. I'm
never down, never, all right, So they made their point.
I'm figuring at this point, let's go, so time out.
(17:05):
I don't understand why. Again, conspiracy theory would say legal office,
who knows it. I don't even know if we have
tape at Shanahan calling the time out. I don't know.
Second down and so second down, Patrick Mahomes takes another knee,
this time for minus three yards, so a little bit
more reasonable compared to the five from the first knee
(17:25):
he took. All right, So I'm doing some back of
the napkin math here. We're down to thirty six. You're five.
I mean even the five was crazy. Now if you
got in late, hey, tough freaking luck. You know why,
because you should listen every day. That's my theory. So
third down, third down, he went for five, then he
(17:45):
went to three. If you follow the trend, you assume, okay,
well we're gonna knock off another two, yeah, or even one.
You know, they made their point, like you said. But
instead Patrick Mahomes decides, you know what, let me go
ahead and milk as much clock as possible, and he
takes a knee for minus seven yards. Now, quick math,
(18:06):
We're down to twenty nine. At this point, I'm scrambling
to get the screenshot on my ticket. And this is
time to give Steve Fazik some credit, because even if
you were betting early, there were twenty nines out there. Brad.
You you your second bite at the apple, you had
twenty nine and a half. Now, when did you bet
(18:28):
that like right after yeah, right when we gave it out.
So literally, you get off air and you bet it
over twenty nine and a half, but you had a
little twenty eight and a half. First bite was twenty
eight and a half. Second and a half though, he
has twenty nine outs, so he got me a twenty
eight and a half. So I'm like, who did it?
(18:49):
Dawned on me? Wait a minute, they're not punt. I
had thirty one and a half and your thirty three
dollars just five. Yeah, So so Mahomes is sitting He's
sitting at twenty nine yards now, so he's just lost
fifteen yards of rushing on three kneel downs for minus
(19:11):
five minus three, and then an egregious minus seven. Kansas
City calls the time out with five seconds left. There's
one more play to go. Maybe he'll run the ball,
get out of bounds or something like that. Instead, he
takes a shotgun throw, throws the football as high as
he can in the air, and the clock runs out
and he finishes with twenty nine rushing yards. Sure, now, listen,
(19:34):
I'm very self interested. I do feel it for the audience.
This one's so brutal, and I tweeted this out with
our ticket some different faces to represent stress at our
Jane Vegas. I spent kind of a goofy amount of
time on this. You might want to check it out.
I feel bad. I mean, Brad, you're very self involved,
(19:59):
but you were feeling bad. Explain your thinking. Well, it's just,
you know, only a very select few the Steve physics
of the world could get a number like this. A
lot of people listening may might have listened a little
bit late. First off, shame on you for listening late.
But I get it. You can't get the best of
the number. You don't have twenty nine outs to get.
You know, even if you got right to lose, and
(20:23):
the thing it is, even the kneel downs, a typical
kneel down, you're gonna lose maybe two or three yards
of fine, still fine you would have been. And Kansas
City was down ten points in the fourth quarter, it
was unlikely they were even going to get the lead
to have to take any kneel downs. It's a hard
way to make an easy living now. Luckily it was
(20:45):
pretty much the only thing we lost, and I still
want let's just start going through it. Kansas City winner
Best bat first score for a goal, bild goal plus
one sixty. I'm just messing around. Got a triple double,
no messing around, plus money payout. And wasn't it exactly
(21:10):
like I predicted it? Exactly? Explain you said, Hey, conservative coaches,
they don't like to go for it. They want to
get on the scoreboard. Conservative coaches. I'm saying, any Super Bowl,
any Super Bowl coach right that even an aggressive coach
wants to set the tone and take the lead. So
we see San Francisco, they're driving up, look perfectly happy
(21:31):
to get on the scoreboard. Robbie Gold take the three points?
What was it fourth? And what like two or something too? Yes,
I think of the regular season they go for it. Ye,
quite possible. It's almost like I had a crystal ball.
But that wasn't the end of it, Fez Jimmy g
under yards under two thirty nine for Jimmy G. He
gets only eighty nine on the first half. Can't overcome it. Now,
(21:53):
you had an interesting one number of carries. I didn't
even see how that went. Yeah, I'm sorry. Number of
players who would have a carry for it's my only lost.
Kansas City under four and a half guys to rush
the ball. They had five r J. Three receivers all
got one carry, including Travis Kelsey, the tight end, who
(22:15):
has one carry combined in the last two years. One
in the fourth quarter to put fault in the wound. Yes,
that hurt, but net and net you add up all
the picks, I show thirteen three and one in r J.
I give you kudos here. You were winning stuff before
the game even started. You said national anthem under way,
(22:36):
under tails the coin toss winner, tales number fails, Jonas.
How do you feel when that happened? Oh? I felt great, now,
I I still would you like to hear my my
little roller coaster of bets here that I made, as
long as you tell us the exact amount of each beat, Okay,
I will. They were all for ten dollars each. Al right,
I will tell you that right off the bat, ten
(22:56):
dollars each. I started out three, and oh I had tales,
as you mentioned, because of the advantage of the weighted
side of the coin and just sort of how that
would work. Um. I also had Jimmy Garoppolo throwing the
first touchdown pass of the game, so I called that,
and then I had the field goal being the first
(23:16):
score of the game. So I took your advice on that.
So so lunch is on you next time. Yeah. Yeah.
Unfortunately though, I lost my next six, so I finished
three and six. Now we only lost three combined. So
how how is that? Exactly? You know, sometimes you think
you can swim before you actually can swim. You go
on the deep end and then you find out they've
got to send a boat out to rescue you. And
(23:38):
that's apparently what I needed. Three and six Jonas Jonas
is a cautionary tale. I'm straight out of Vegas. Here
in Vegas, we've got Steve Pezik and Brad Powers. Fez
actually showed off a little bit. He gave us the
under in the first half and it was so nice.
I loved that bat love it as you give me
(24:01):
an extra nickel just right before the game. I was
very happy about that. Yes, and when it was twenty,
when it was ten, ten, twenty points and you had
the under twenty seven, You're like, okay, first case push exactly.
It's almost like worst case pushing are bad about where
the line would close, but for me not, Oh you
took advantage of me. But how is that? Do you
know I was too proud, too much pride double it.
(24:25):
But the funny thing is I offered you to double
about ten other times you said no. Then well, at
some point when four figures, Pride goes into the garbage can.
But then on Friday he said, I'm gonna flex a
little bit. The mother fer will say. He says, I'm
going to over second half. I want to be like
a Hedge fund under first half over second half winner.
(24:49):
How did that feel? That felt real good? And we
had second half to outscore first half, so we really
doubled down on more scoring second half anything. What else
was there? It didn't feel like we missed any anything.
Huh oh, that's the purple gatorade didn't happen. Yeah, we
lost the Purple Gator the only other loser we lost
by one play first quarter. Brad, you had San Francisco
(25:10):
in the first quarter and Kansasy score touchdown literally in
the last play of the first quarter. No, I'm not
going to associate with that bad I had nothing to
do with. I had all Kansas City you had, so
let's be canning. Not many people followed that. That's right,
you had three straight scores. You talk about how good.
Not only did one team score three straight times, both
teams scored three straight times. Jonas, it's a celebration. It
(25:34):
is for you, guys. Be sure to catch live editions
of Straight Out of Vegas weekdays at six pm Eastern,
three pm Pacific. You might think it's too early for this.
We don't care. This is great and it tells you
because it's not always like the champion that's gonna be favorite.
Sometimes it's like, hey, this guy's retiring, or we think
(25:54):
this team's trending down. So right now, Brad Power's you
got the numbers, champion title wards the favorite. The favorite
is the super Bowl champ, the defending Super Bowl champ,
Kansas City Chiefs plus six fifty so six and a
half to one. It goes to show you, no matter
(26:16):
what in the NFL, you can be the best quarterback
of all time. And I would make the case. And
Jonas was trying to buck me in Miami, and he
wasn't able to buck me in Miami. I asked you,
is my home? Is the way he's playing right now,
the greatest quarterback that ever walked the earth, And it's
(26:37):
really hard to say he's not right. Yeah, I mean
I would say that now after a super Bowl and
what we've seen in the playoffs. Um, yeah, you could
make that argument. And again I asked you, this is
the same thing. It's almost like amnesia. He gave the
same noncommittal answer, and then I said, well, tell me
who it is. Then He's like, you know, you're probably right, right.
(26:59):
I would still say Brady Brady at what point was
playing this Wow, I'm not saying accumulated accomplishment, right, I'm
talking about the how well if he had a tech
mo or Madden number, Mahomes Madden number is better than
any quarterback ever. Yeah maybe that oh seven season, Yeah,
(27:19):
but that was more about the supporting cast. Great, But
in theory, he should have been almost as good the
year before. You know, listen, I think Brady's to go.
But that's about accomplishment. I'm talking who's playing the best today.
I don't think you can argue it right now, or
not just today, but at any given point in history.
And still six and a half to one, meaning it's
(27:41):
not even money, it's not two to one. Fez, what
was that ramsbat that you thought was so juicy? You
were so happy about that for about two months don't
girl stop showing up? Should have maybe the minute I
bet you started wondering. Second favor, Baltimore Ravens eight to one.
R J Boy Lamar Jackson. What a story. That's gonna
(28:02):
be the the m v P. And now it's like
the playoff dud. Third favor nine to one. I think
Jimmy Gee is the only question. Let's give the nine
is credit. Great team, just doesn't they don't have a
great quarterback. Number four New England Patriots twelve to one.
(28:23):
This is the first time the Pats haven't been one
of the top couple favorites in like twenty or like
like eighteen years. I'll do some research on it. It's unbelievable.
Then it's Saints, Cowboys, Steelers, Vikings. Yeah, cousin is gonna
win a Super Bowl? Alright, If you had to make
a bat right now, Jonas, if I gave you a
(28:44):
free hundred out of my big pal, I'm not going
to what would you bet? I would bet Kansas City
again at six and a half to one is juice.
I don't think that's gonna last. I think that's gonna drop. Remember, guys,
I have it on tour. I'm putting on Twitter right
after the show my Monday shipment will call it, and uh,
it was a celebration. Tomorrow all the funds over what
(29:07):
we'll have fun. The focus is going to be college
basketball m b A and starting to win there and
starting to know more than our buddies there
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