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Speaker 2 (00:26):
I mean, so, we hope you had a happy Martin
Luther King day off. He had a dream, make yours
come true. I hope you had a great inauguration day.
I had a dream I went to school with no
pants on. Oh yeah, not as big as doctor King's dream.
And I didn't have enough college credits because I didn't study.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
For that quiz. Oh my god, I haven't got to
class all semester. Have you had that dream? Yeah? I
always have the same nightmare. All right, Well, let's buckle in.
Let me make sure my chair's okay, so I don't
fall like Theovona my ass. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I hope you enjoyed, like we said, the big inauguration party.
We're gonna enjoy the tacos on this Tuesday. We're gonna
get your phone calls at eighty seven seven ninety nine
on Fox and we be rocking out. Hope you had
an Ohio State sort of Monday fun day, Dan Buyer,
the Ohio State Congratulations, Man, that was awesome. And by
(01:16):
the way, it is sort of I don't know expected
or understood that you congratulate your buddies, right, because I
congratulated my brother in law like he's on the team
or something. Hey, man, you really rooted great this year.
Are your brother and Laura's Ryan Day? Yeah, congrats on
the big win. I know you're a big Ohio State fan.
You're supposed to congratulate the fans, right, So Dan, I
(01:38):
hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know, I think college is different than the pros
in that you could congratulate even more if it's an
alumni like Spot. If Maryland does something big. You spent
money in four years of your life living at the
University of Maryland, So if the Terps show up big,
I could say, Hey, congrat Spots because you were there.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, you're part of I mean, my money's long gone,
but yeah, it's made running on a park bench. But
are you more part of it than the actual city
you represent? Like if you live there and pay taxes
and you really bleed that city. Isn't that kind of
the same thing. You're still part of it, right? College
towns are a bit different.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I get it. Yeah, there's something a little more about
college I get it. If you're an East Coast guy
like you and you're a Yankees fan, that's that's you.
But if you're a guy that lives in middle Pennsylvania,
you went to state college and your penn State guy you,
that's sorted even you more.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So, congrats to all the Ohio State fans out there.
Hope you enjoyed some foods ball, Hope you enjoyed your Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Let's have a great Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I hate to say it because they lost, but we
have been to South Bend, Indiana, and that town bleeds
for Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The Notre Dame. So like our buddy who went there
and played college lacrosse there, you don't think he's more
connected to Notre Dame than you know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But there are the town itself though, does live well
have an Irish team with the fighting Irish tattoos with
no affiliation to the school at all. So you know,
I can congratulate that for a good season.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I guess no doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But again, let's have a great Tuesday. Let's have a
great four years, even though some people are reluctant to
let's have a great four years. That's all we want,
right every year. Yeah, let's just keep doing great things.
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Before we get into mahomes and some chief, you have
(03:53):
a Chief's double doozy.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh boy, Well, there's a lot of mahomes today. We're
giving away prizes. We're playing Showtime Mahomes Trivia. He's stopping
are Broke Mahomes to play a game. We do it
every Tuesday, but yeah, a double doozy of Chiefs Talk
and we got to chop.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
A new podcast Chiefs Talk.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean this show sometimes feels like Chiefs Time because
we get real inclusive here on the show. We want
to involve everybody eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Everybody listening in the car, at the oil patch, the warehouse,
the office, everybody here in the studio. We all have
opinions on what we're seeing with the Chiefs, So I
want to see how we should feel about it moving forward.
(04:32):
That there's layers to these Chiefs questions, so we need
to explore this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
We'll get to that. There's also a story we have
to get to today, which is imagine if you're eleven
year old snot nosed kid, changed your family stars. There's
a story and involves a kid and a baseball card.
We have to dissect that. But can I start the
show with a typical stupid Rich Davis hypothetical?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You could just say Rich Davis hypothetical? What is today
that's redundant? It's like ATM machine? Is it like chicken
pop pies? What do we talk about today? Talking about
liquids now?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's like mac and cheese because I'm on a liquid
only die today because I have a colonoscar Bey tomorrow.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Have anything else you want to share with this bother me? Yeah,
that's not the hypothetical.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's tonight, Sam, that's tonight. That's all night tonight. My
question is this, I saw two headlines in the world
of sports, So can we play a quick round of
what's worse? Yes, I'm gonna give it two scenarios, and
you tell me because you're a dad. You got a
fifteen year old daughter, I'm sorry, a fifteen year old
cheer champion daughter, fifteen year old pain in the as
(05:39):
Danny g You got sons, you got a baby, got
step sons that are grown. Damn Buyer's a dad. I
wish Sam one day. I feel like you're gonna be
a hell of a dad. Spotty women call you daddy.
It's true, that's your daddy.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So he's the daddy.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But he's not like a sugar daddy. He's like a
Stevia daddy. He sort of gives low budget treatment the girls.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Stevie at Daddy. It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He's like, I'm not gonna buy you a Louis Vuittan,
But I got a sweet coach bag for you.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's like, you want to go to cheesecake factory.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, He's like, I'll make your wildest dreams come true.
You want a vacation to the Poconos?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Sweet low daddy, Sweet low daddy over there, fellow, Yeah yeah,
I'll take you a target by a pair of socks.
Oh yeah, yeah, So I got some good fellow sweats
at your name on him. All right, I'll hook you up.
Here's the I guess it's sort of a parental question,
but not really. What's worse? Tyson Fury? Oh, brought his
(06:34):
seven kids for a day at Disney. So picture bringing
seven children to Disney, Okay, and how that day unfaults?
So what's worse? Bringing seven children to Disney? A lah
Tyson Fury? And you can only imagine he's getting stopped,
people are talking to him. He's trying to accommodate all
seven of his kids. Or if your jose canseco and
(06:57):
you see Johnny Man's l grebin all types of parts
of your daughter's body on Instagram saying they're partying and Aspen, oh, Aspen,
what's worse? And the headline was aspen because Johnny Manziel's
grabbing Josie Conseco's ash cheeks. So is it is it
worse to be Jose Canseeko where you have to just
(07:18):
watch as Johnny Manziel violated daughter, or if you're Tyson
Fury bringing seven children to Disney. I actually like.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
The Fury Store. You know why, one there's only want
to Tyson Fury. But there's seven little nose pickers in
his family, right, So he takes his family to Disney
for a day. Remember he just announced his retirement. Maybe
this opens his eyes up a little more of he
doesn't want to spend all this quality time with his family.
He's gonna be so frustrated after dealing with them just
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for a day at Disney that he's out of retirement,
back in camp and he's fighting again. So I actually
like that one one day of aggravation for Tyson Fury
versus potentially a lifetime of Johnny football all over your daughter.
Jose Canseeko sort of deserves it. He's kind of a
jerky guy, as we know. Yeah, that's definitely worse, though,
(08:10):
I told you my daughter's fifteen. As you mentioned the
other day, I picked her up from school and she
came walking out of the school with her new boyfriend.
And it's some track kid and he has the broccoli
hair and the broccoli head alpaca haircut crocs.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
He's like, hey, it was salt, mister Cavino. And I
was like, oh, this guy, right, it was up fella.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I gave him the peace sign and then I saw,
for the first time my daughter give him like the
hug goodbye, and it made my stomach drop a little bit.
And I pretend to not notice it, but I gave
him the side like oh, And I didn't let her
know that it bothered me or I noticed it because
she's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I get it. She hugged the kid whatever, but she
kissed five minutest.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
When I saw it, though, I'm like, man, that's a
little bold right in front of me, like that right,
I wasn't ready.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
When Marty McFly is sitting on the bench, yeah, and
Jennifer's dad pulls up in the station wagon.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Jennifer, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
How cool you are or how much you understand, that
still stings. And when it's Johnny football and all over
social media and you're a public figure.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's got to be more annoying. That's worse for me.
That's why I bring it up because listen, he seems
to have changed his act and you've seen the documentary,
but Johnny Football is known as one of the biggest
douches of the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I do like how he's grown. I gotta make that clear,
But it's never fun.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So him hanging over your daughter, grabbing your kid's booty
on social media, or Typhon Fury fresh out of you know,
being one of the most elite boxes of the last
decade or so, and you're entertaining seven children at Disney.
How old is his daughter now?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean, I know she's grown, but I'm just wondering, right,
because there's a part of you that still sees your
kid as they're your kid. She's twenty eight, She's not
that young, you know. So I guess you get used
to it as time goes on. But there's a level
of respect.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I would never do that to my girlfriend's dad and
put him in that awkward situation. He listens to Fox
Sports all the time out there in Idaho ninety nine
to nine. You think I'd be posting pictures like that.
That's disheartening, it's disrespectful.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Could be karma too, though, Yeah, because if you know
anything about Kinseko, if you've had a girlfriend in southern
California that he's come up to and try to mac
on her back in the day, now, then you know
Conseko's mo o. Is he used to kind of be
on the line of dirt bag or good guy?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You aren't sure. It almost makes sense. It's sort of
like when Charlie Sheen's daughter was on Only Fans. It's like, well,
isn't that sort of yeah? But you know it's never easy.
So I think the answer is very clear.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
What's worse spending a fun magical day with seven of
your kids in disney World or Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
That's what Tyson Fury did. I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's aggravating, you know, it's a lot of waiting around. Well,
not that he doesn't get VIPs, isn't if they're at
the Bibitty Bobby Boutique. It's not like you could breeze
right through that, right, So it's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's stressful, but it's not as stressful as seeing your baby,
even though they're grown being.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Groped on social media for the world to see.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
That's a big ass family too, where they're all wearing
matching yellow T shirts.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, and I want it when I pose this dumb hypothetical,
and we'll move on now anyway. But I'm not putting
it in terms of well, it's tyson fury, so they
probably get escorted to the front of every line. Take
that away. I'm asking you, as you know, as a man,
as a possible dad, what would get you more seeing
your daughter be groped by a guy that's known to
(11:40):
be a douche That or a day at Disney Now
picture if you're not a celebrity though I love seven kids, No,
but the lines did everything about a day at Disney
with seven kids. It's not really vacation. Your kids have fun.
But you know when parents go to a theme park
when you get you need a vacation.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, but you know you're doing the right thing in
that moment, as stressful and as aggravating as it may
be and as thankless as it may feel, right, because
that's the day when the kids decide to give you
an attitude and you're there at Disneyland trying to make
their dreams come true. You know, in your heart of hearts,
you're providing memories and you're doing your job as a parent,
So there's some satisfaction there, even though it's stressful. There's
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no satisfaction in seeing your kid growing up to be
groped publicly. And when you're Hose Cansako and you've created
a lot of enemies, all you did is just give
ammunition to all those people to throw at you later on.
So that's just by far the worse. And again in
the same breath, we all have to be understanding that
our kids grow up and they make their own choices
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and their own people. But that's still way worse than
you know, spending an aggravating day of Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There were just two sports headlines I saw. I didn't
think either were worthy of like any real conversation other
than yeah, like these both seem like sort of annoying scenarios.
What's worse? You'd be the judge at Kobinunrich. And now
we move on to championship weekend in the National Football League.
I know you've got multiple layers to the chiefs and
the questions we have, but if it's cool, I want
(13:09):
to start with the sentiment of do you like being
the Hollywood Hogan, the heel, the devil, or do you
like when everyone's behind you? Because as predicted, I said,
anything you now you're going to see that meme where
it's like who the country is rooting for and it's
all buffalo all bills, and then they show the little
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dot in Kansas City where they like Chiefs and saying
with the commanders that little dot, I.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Gotta say it for the sake of conversation, to be
fair and to explore all angles, as we like to
do on the show, all angles here. You're right, who's
rooting for the Chiefs? Mostly Chiefs fans and that's about it.
The rest of the yes, swifties, and that's a lot.
But also people who want to see history. There's a
small little nugget, a small portion of people that actually
(13:59):
do want to see history be made, and that would
be to three peat four mahomes. I'm not hating on that,
to be honest, do I want to see it? I'm
not saying that's why I'm tuning in, but I wouldn't
be mad if I witnessed it. And there's a lot
of people that do feel like Hey, man, I want
to see him win three in a row. That's something
that's never been done. I'm rooting for greatness, I'm rooting
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for history, so we do have to acknowledge that little
nugget of people out there.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I just don't feel like I want to give this
Chiefs team credit, perhaps because my forty nine Yers were
two times Super Bowl victims to the Kansas City Chiefs.
So I'm probably the wrong guy to ask. Yeah, but
when I look at the history books and I see
the Steel Curtain and some of those great Steelers teams
who repeated twice in the seventies leaning into nineteen eighty
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could never get three in a row.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Joe Montana and Bill Walsh in their pride, when you're
doing stuff that Brady couldn't do, you're just paving your
own way into the history.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
When I respect that so much. When Peter's don't see
that's find their own little path. That's what I was
just in the middle of saying. When I saw as
a kid Joe Montana unable to accomplish the three Peete
before I was born, hearing stories of the Steel curtaincy
and highlights of those great Steelers teams, couldn't get it
done the Green Bay Packers when the Super Bowl started,
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they couldn't get three in a row. Three in a
row always seemed impossible Tom Brady and Belichick in their
prime years of their six.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And there's so much relying on that rich because it's like, hey,
to ever try to do this again, we got to
win two more in a row. This is the extra
added pressure they have on themselves to make it happen. Like,
if we're gonna be in the history books, we have
to win now. I'm not gonna win two more in
a row and go forward again. It's now or never
when it comes to this. And it also takes that
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pressure off of him of trying to surpass Brady or
match Brady as far as Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Because now he has an accolade that no one else
has there.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It is so there's so much riding on this accomplishment,
you know. So the fact that he could do something
that no one's ever done before, there's a lot to
be said about that, and I think there's a lot
of people that respect it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
They do, but I feel like I'm in the majority
here where you could say it's jealousy because there is
a little bit of that where I don't want to
see these guys do something my team or someone else
couldn't deal. You want to see it be stopped. I
get it. It's like we get it. Then it's a.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Boring storyline for a lot of people, Like all right,
the Chiefs one.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I feel like we exhausted the Tailors swift storyline. Last year,
we exhausted the Kansas City got their first ever one.
Back in twenty twenty, we exhausted the oh mahomes got two. Oh,
then he got three, now three in a row, making
four total, four total. You're putting him now in the
category of Montana Bradshaw four is insane. Yeah, it's elite territory.
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We've exhausted the refs. Yes, no one else you've exhausted too.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's the feeling of we speculated as fans, as radio
hosts for another season, only to figure out and find
out that the Chiefs won again.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
All this speculation, all this man, do you think the
Bills are gonna do it? Man? The Ravens are the team?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Man, those commanders, Dude, Jaydeen Daniels, all that wasted breath,
all that hot all this Sam, Sam Dartletuck, the Lions
find out they win again.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's disheartening a little bit. I get it. It's what
I think.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Rich and I both agree. We like those moments that
change history and why we hate repeat matchups. Yeah, I
got so much because this is just yeah, it feels
like it's a waste.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now the matchup I'd be okay with because it's so
long ago. Bill's Washington if you remember, that was the
super Bowl in the early nineties when we were kids,
and it's so far removed. We're thirty plus years from that.
So I'm out looking at the Bill's logo and the
Commander's logo and saying been there. But if I see Eagles, Chiefs,
You're right, there's a sense of like, so we just
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spent the last months of our lives having all these
Funds League great conversations about football to just.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
End up here like how obvious, how weak? Unless, of
course that's who you're rooting for or what you're rooting for.
So basically, again, now that we speculate, we get to
your phone calls on being the villain, because that's kind
of who the Chiefs are becoming.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know what, it's not your team, And do you
watch it. Do you lean into that or not. You know,
when you're watching a game and it's not your team,
it's very rare that you get emotional, caught up excited
about someone else's team winning. And I feel that I
would have a little of those emotions if Buffalo won.
(18:41):
If Buffalo beat Kansas City and goes on to win
the Super Bowl and you see those Bill's Mafia fans
being all happy and Josh Allen hoisting the Lombardi Trophy,
I feel like that's a moment. Where As not a
fan of that team, I'd be like, you know, good
for Josh Allen. If Mahomes wins, you're gonna be like, oh,
you're gonna go pour yourself another drink and be like,
all right, we're watching the postgame. What do we do again?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You're coming from a Jada perspective of being a forty
nine Ers fan, because you're when you think about it, it
doesn't make that much sense what you're rooting for. You're
rooting for a different team to win it as opposed
to history. What has more of an impact when all
is said and done, the historical moment. Don't we talk
about Jordan winning three? We don't talk about anything else
really other than that that that's really the story, right.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We were too young, and I mean not that young,
I mean in the nineties, we were in I was
in junior high in high school. I don't remember the
national sentiment because we were kids and we weren't thinking
this way. Were there a lot of people rooting for
Jordan to be shut down? Or was he the anomaly
that people just loved him so much that, Like I
wonder if we were doing the show now back then.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I don't think when we were bored of John would
we people in New York were rooting for him to
be shut down?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But other than the hatred from the Knicks fans, like,
was the national sentiment like come on, Utah jazz, you
got through warm Like, I don't feel like it was. No,
it wasn't come on, trail lasers, come on, I don't
feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I also think it depends on how old you were, too,
because if you were a kid, you just love.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Jordan no matter what.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But if you were an adult and you were a
Knicks fan, like you said, yeah, you're like screw them
and they're three pete. But my point is the history
is way more impactful than the Bill's winning it or
something like that, right, except for.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Their super Bowl history. They have history on the line
too because of their four super Bowl Of.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Course, again that's the heartwarming story. That's almost the question
in itself. Do you want to see a team like
the Bills finally get over that hump?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And I want to see him saying to all to Scott.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Nor if you're listening, man, to me, that would be
the Bill we wanted for you, guys.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I would be happy for them. Is that better than
three in a row? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
To me, that would be the better NFL history to
come out of this.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So I wish.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I wish younger players acknowledged some of those sadder moments
from the previous generations.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I really do so. Question one of our dive into
the Chiefs in the NFL, Question number one. As a fan,
do you like when everyone's behind you? Or do you
like when your team and you appear to be like
I said, the villain, the heel, the Hollywood Hogan, the
devil as the quot Gos Darling or devil hero or
(21:19):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Answer that the first question as a fan because I'm
a Yankees fan and I lived all through the nineties
and early two thousands being hated on and I loved
every second of it. And it was that feeling of
you hate me because you ain't me sort of vibe.
As a fan, you got that extra strut and confidence
and I didn't mind people hating on me. What you
hate on us, because we're awesome. That's great. That's a
(21:40):
great feeling to have. Yeah, I'm the man, you're a loser.
That's kind of how you feel about it. I think
playing the role of heel is sort of fun. Think
back to the old school wrestling days.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I used to like mister Perfect and ravishing Rick Rude,
and you know when Macho Man was a bad guy,
Like there's something that's fun about rooting for the villain,
like when everyone was against you Yankees. There Danny g
as a Lakers fan. I'm sure there were plenty of
times where people like, oh the Lakers again, you go
you wait us? You know, I don't know. So the
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alternative is, I know they're out now, But before the
Lions got eliminated, do you think they liked did a
Lions fan like the sentiment that, well, if my team
doesn't win, I really want the Lions to pull it out.
Do you want that sympathy backing or no?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think the fans don't mind playing the villain here,
But I wonder how the players feel about it. I
wonder how Mahomes feels about being, you know, the most
likable guy in the NFL to people now rooting against them.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Does that just give him extra fuel to the fire?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Interesting one, right, And speaking of Mahomes, we're gonna discuss
this next and we'll take your phone calls on this
eight seven, seven ninety nine. M Fox, are you slowly
losing a little bit of respect for Patrick Mahomes. Look,
the guy's great, he's got a great smile. It's great
for football. But now that we're sort of absorbed bring
everything to happen this past weekend and I don't know
this past season. Is he smart for playing within the
(23:05):
confines of the rules of the NFL? Or do you
think that he's taking advantage of it?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
We'll explain all coming up next right here, comin Know
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Speaker 1 (25:00):
Doesn't surprise me though he came to prominence what in
the late eighties and early nineties. Who he's in his
late twenties, early thirties now he's how sixties.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
He's had cobwebs in his hair for a good thirty
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Speaker 1 (25:13):
And we ask you darling or.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Devil never gone to stop darling or devil the chiefs
history or breaking up of the history. Yeah, I think
most as I said, the little meme goes.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's on my Instagram now if you want to see
it at Rich Davis it's the map of the US, like,
who are we rooting for? And it's all Buffalo bills
except for one little dot of like Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's a part of me that's rooting for history. I
like the nice story, but guess what, life isn't always
nice and sweet and history is good. Dude, do you
talk about the rockets repeating? No, you talk about the
Bulls threepeating like that puts him in a different category.
And you're gonna look back and you're gonna say, man,
(26:00):
that was insane in the moment. Again, it's a little
hateable darling or devil or you could say, yeah. But
now that the narrative has been man, Mahomes is a
flopper and look at all these calls they're getting. That
makes you root against them even more. Well, I'm gonna
talk about that too. It's a double doozy of Chiefs fandom.
You bring up, you know, do you root for greatness
(26:22):
or not? And the three peat we saw the Yankees
doing in baseball never been done in the NFL. During
the breakout, was telling Cavino, if you're a kid of
the eighties and nineties, the NBA was just all it
was was teams trying to go for a threepeat until
Jordan was able to do it. If you want to,
you know, you look at the teams that repeat and
you're like, oh, that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
No, but not to be in nerd. Go back to
the eighties and if you want to play the game,
it's Lakers, Celtics, Lakers, Lakers. They were trying for a threepeat.
Who caught them? The Bulls? Then the Bulls three petd
Rocket I'm sorry, Pistons, Pistons, Bulls, Bulls, Bulls, Rockets, Rockets, Bulls, Bulls, Bulls.
Then the one Spurs Championship, and then Lakers Lakers, Lakers.
(27:04):
So you've seen it in the NBA. So you got
to ask yourself, were you always rooting for those teams
to keep winning? Well, unless it's your team, you were like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
There is a part of me that's rooting for greatness
because again that's historic.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Cavino and Rich making history.
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get to the phone calls. Let's get involved Part two
of the questions, so again part one.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Being the villain, darling of the devil, what do you prefer?
What do you prefer? Part two? Are you slowly losing?
Or maybe that's too harsh for a word.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Maybe you're getting mad at my homes maybe you're starting
to dislike him a little bit? Or do you say,
as Big Mike said, you know, Michael runs his place?
Who Mike, he looks like Rick from Pond Stars, looks
like an older stone called Steve. Oh yeah, you know, Mike,
you see him.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He has to go tee. He's got a scruff now
kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
He was saying that, Hey, as long as these are
the rules, he's smart for leaning into them. Yeah, dude,
I'm a I'm a big fan of when people take
advantage of the system in place.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm not saying you're not taking advantage of someone. If
that's the rule, If Mahomes knows because rich subscribes, and
he really is, he's preaching it. He subscribes to the
work smarter, not harder mentality. Yeah, put your head down
and work hard like cheap, you know, because it reeks
of cheap. It does, And you're not fooling anybody. You're not.
You think you're fooling me, you're not. That's like saying cheap.
(28:55):
But you know what it's like.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's like someone saying, because he's better than that, bro,
just like you're better than that, you cut corners.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I think it's cheap. I think it's weak, it's working smarter.
It's like when someone says, uh, oh wait, it's easier cheaper,
I'm not gonna well, maybe I won't take that tax break.
You're always looking for the legal shortcut and Rambo when
Bill Belichick figured away to really drain the clock and
they eventually had to change, like a little.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Working for loopholes instead of looking to be better. And
I think Mahomes is better than that. I think the
chiefs are better than that. Well, he's better than flopping though,
that's what I'm saying. That's part of it exactly all right. Now,
before we get to all the phone calls again, double
doozy of chief chiefness, let's hear what Troy Aikman had
to say about it, because even the commentators, even Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Is like, I've had enough of us. Take a listen.
He's trying to draw the penalty. You see that, rather
than just run out of bounds, he slows down. That's
been the frustration, and I get it. I understand it.
That's been the frustration for these defensive players.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Around the league.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
But Patrick Mahomes knows that if I tiptoe along the sideline,
I could get I could get an antsy aggressive defensive
back to hit me just as I'm going out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If I flop over fifteen yards or hit each other
like a Popeye cartoon. To me right, they're crashing into
each other. I was playing games out there. I think
this is this is clever.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I reminder me of he's better than that. Rich Let
me go back to he doesn't need these calls. They
don't need these.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Nobody ever described a Lebron flop as clever.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, now you're entering this this extra critical territory of
like come on, come on, But you could say in
the same breath like I said, smarter for playing into
the rules.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Aren't you trying to not doing anything illegal? Or are
you trying to play with the game clock? Aren't you
trying to win a game within the rules that are
set before you. I remember when they first incorporated the
pitch clock into baseball in a spring training game. This
wasn't during your regular game, but Max Shures was the
Mets at the time. Have you ever seen this clip
where he's on the mound and the batter had already
(31:06):
used their time out. They're one opportunity to step out
of the box. So then the batter gets in the box.
Scherzer immediately comes to the stretch. There's like twenty seconds
left on the pitch clock. He waits, knowing that the
batter can't step out of the box again. So he
(31:27):
has this batter awkwardly just standing there like clearly knees
getting tired. And so it's using the rules to your advance.
And you know what he does. He delivers a strike
and the guy was just off because you are finding
ways to win with the rules given.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Okay, so your thoughts on all of this as we
explore and break it down together and figure it out
together eight seven seven ninety nine out Fox, Where do
you want to start?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Question? Do you max out your four O one K?
Do I max out my four O one K?
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I do?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yes? Do you have an accountant that legally finds all
the right off that Steve Covino could use?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I do?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Do you? Do you pay things you don't have to pay? Like? Yeah,
like child support and stuff like that. But I'm just
saying we all try to find the ways to win,
and I think Mahomes is just smart.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Of there's stump millions of people cheering against Covino and
his taxes.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Though. Yeah, okay, let's go to Andy and Rhode Island.
We'll start with him. You're on with Ce and what's
up buddy?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Byzano?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh what's up?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Let Mahomes know I'm here. I'm here.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
So I've been on both sides because being a lifelong
Maru fan and Lakers fan, seeing them both you know,
create their own history and field.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
The fatigue that.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Comes around it after the team is so successful for
so long, to bat looters loses, But nonetheless, you know
it's I'm rooted for the bills and I'm hoping that,
you know, they can come out on top.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
And to look at.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Mahomes on the another, man, I feel like, you know,
he's kind of, you know, bending the rules.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
You know, he's not breaking them, but.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
It is unfortunate because that forces defenders to have to
play a different way. And honestly, that takes away from
what a defenders should be able to do because it's
just not fair for them to have to pull up
and not hit my homes when he's clearing, playing playing.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
The games with him.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think the NFL will make an adjustment because of this.
E Rock and Jersey what's up man?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Hey, how's it going? Guys?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
By the way, hold On and Rich saying that, you're
also saying that they're gonna have to make an adjustment
because it doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, that's what a lot of times rules are made.
Someone finds a cool loop an adjustment. It's so awesome
that Mahomes is doing something that doesn't seem right. He's
playing smart. No, he's playing cheaps better than that.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Rock.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Hold on, hold on, We're gonna go to Dann Buyer's update.
E Rock, you gotta get you lust your kids. I
heard Trump in the background. Did you guys have say
as well? Yeah? Pumping some Trump here on this Tuesday, China.
This news just in from the NFL.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Josh McDaniels interviewed for the Patriots offensive coordinator position. Diana
Rossini of the Athletic NFL Network also reporting that McDaniels
is going to get the job. Daj so his third
stint is the Patriots offensive coordinator, but first under new
head coach Mike Rabel. Vikings and head coach Kevin O'Connell
have agreed to terms on a contract extension. Vikings went
(34:31):
fourteen to three this past season. For O'Connell, he had
one year left on his deal, now gets to stick
around the Twin Cities for a while. Ben Johnson officially
announced as the Bears head coach. He'll be introduced tomorrow.
Saints we're going to have some in person interviews for
their head coaching vacancy. Those not happening because of the
storm that has hit much of the South. Those interviews,
(34:52):
according to the NFL Network, have been postponed for two days.
NFL Network also reporting the Cowboys are interviewing their own
offensive course ordinator Brian Schottenheimer for their head coaching vacancy,
trying to replace Mike McCarthy. Baseball Writers' Association of America
revealing the class of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Guys.
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It's just after six o'clock Eastern time. Echiro Suzuki, a
first time on the ballot. Billy Wagner needs just five
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if he gets in.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Back to you, guys, Erbick, thanks Dan, And if you remember,
Billy Wagner spoke in the offseason in between the last
year's voting and now saying, if you're going to keep
me out of the Hall of Fame because I wanted
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So maybe that changed a couple of sports writers' opinions.
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Now my vote goes to a guy who was willing
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have the most wins of the nineties.
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Mister Andy Pettitt, New York Yankee. Well, hey, we'll keep
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live from the tire Rack dot Com studios and again,
appreciate you hanging out with us the chiefs. A lot
of villain is talk. Hey, chief do you like being
the villain? If you're the fan of a winning organization,
(37:58):
everybody's rooting against you. Do you like being the darling
or the devil? And then as far as being villains,
somehow the chiefs are sort of building the narrative of
they are villains the way they're playing when they don't
need to be playing.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I mean, not only do they especially not only do
they find ways to win, they find ways to draw
penalties and flags and everything.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And you got to say, that's what people criticize Lebron's
game back the most for flopping cheap like he's the best.
He's already the best stop with the garbage, and the
same with Mahomes. It's like he's better than that. And
I don't want to keep repeating myself, So let's go
to the phones. How do you feel about it? Are
you losing respect for Mahomes? Is he smart for playing
within the confines of the rules? Hold on, Dan Bayer,
(38:42):
let me just ask you. Was it a I don't
know why. Kenny Pickett comes to mind. Who is the
college quarterback who was Yeah, yes he can, Kenny.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Pickett, Yes he can. He was in college cave, you know,
and he's a quarterback and he was running and did
like a I'm gonna slide like a quarterback does and
then didn't and popped up and kept running and they
were like, yeah, we we got to now a justice.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
The podcast to do with Mike carbon I want your
flex who said last it said last night ago. If
there was any play that signifies why they can't be done,
it's the Kenny Pickett play. It was, It was egregious
and it went for a sixty yard score. I believe.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah. So I mean Mahomes, Yeah is it? Is it
a little quote dirty? It's it's the NFL and you're
doing you're doing a soup tee. You're doing a psych
like come on, that's so corny, that's like backyard football stuff.
Just kidding. Let's go to John and Florido. What's up John?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Hey, Hey, hey guys, hey, I want to throw an uh.
First of all, villain, I'm an Eagles fan, so I'm
definitely a villain and.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
We're always villains.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So and do you love it? Is that the point?
You love it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
And I love every minute. I hope everybody hates us.
Going to the Mahomes. I'm gonna throw another take at you, guys.
I think the NFL created this monster because I want
to tell.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
You I see.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I watch a lot of football games, and I see
things on Mahomes that I see on other quarterbacks, and
I don't see the flag. And I'm not being a
conspiracy theorist, but this has been going on for a while.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
We all do.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Jeff was a great example from his past week. There
are crushed Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Fans like the Nick Rights of the world, that say,
look at the stats the chief the Chiefs are actually
penalized more than other teams. Let's uh, let's go to
Brian in AUGUSTA your thoughts on Mahomes and villain versus hero?
What's up in Oh, what's the fella?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
At this point, I don't even think it matters whether
it's hero or villain. In this day and age, it's
about the newest shiny thing, and Mahomes is not the
new shiny thing anymore. So we are waiting for the
new thing. Like let's say Jade and Daniels wins in
the next couple of years. Okay, so after he wins,
(40:58):
who's the next shiny thing after him? It doesn't even matter.
Now we've got all these options like NBA League Pass
a Sunday ticket where we can watch every game simultaneously,
so we are bombarded with options, so we can pick
who the new shiny thing is. So Patrick Mahomes, if
he wins this year, that's great, let's move on to
(41:20):
he's all hat. Let's find out who the new shiny
thing is.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
There was a south Park episode back of the day,
that's a great point. Never the Britney Spears episode of
south Park where the whole narrative was we love to
build people up, watch them succeed, and then we're like,
all right enough when we try to break them down.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
No, it's true because when Jordan was winning three peats,
we weren't as impatient for the next thing as we
are now. So there is a feeling of yeah, maybe
we're just getting a little bored to Mahomes too and
his antics.
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