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July 10, 2024 42 mins

C&R are back in the PM Drive saddle, on FSR! There's an interesting fact we just learned about Billy Wagner, borderline baseball Hall of Famer. Wagner retired when he still had "gas left in the tank" because he wanted to play with his kids. The guys react to his "real" Hall of Fame comments & discuss the difference between parents today & parents in the 80s/90s. Plus, callers weigh-in with some great Wagner related stories & Hard Knocks and Receiver both get love!

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Speaker 3 (02:38):
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Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh, let's hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I know that you and your girlfriend are big on
sampling treats. I know your girlfriends always on Instagram taking
little baby bites of donuts and leaving the rest for
you to become fat.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Here's my Crumble reviews. Yeah, she loves doing that stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
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Oo oh really, KitKat ban What was that last thing?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I did?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Like Grandma's house, Grandma's mothballs. It tastes like caramels. Yeah,
Grandma's worthers. What was it? Grandma's apple? Was the grandma
on Grandma's diabetes? That's what it was, Danny, Yeah, Grandma's shake.
Whatever it was, it was awesome. So yeah, there you go,
something to wet your whistle later on.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
If you're anything like me, in the summer, all I
want to do is sit back, eat ice cream and
watch baseball. That's really like summertime, right.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh yeah, so enjoy that something look forward to later on.
And speaking of double doozies, right, we have a double
doozy right now, and it starts with Billy Wagner. Oh really,
Billy Wagner, Astros Pitcher, you remember Billy Wagner, Danny g
you remember Billy. You n L guys remember Billy Wagoner,

(04:01):
of course. And Billy Wagner's in the news. He says
the primary reason he retired was because of his kids,
and then he goes on to say, if I don't
make the Hall of Fame because I went and played
with my kids, it's not the real hall of fame.
That's kind of cool. Like it's two part, two fold.

(04:23):
It's like, man, you live once, going out there to
be great. Just stick it out as long as you can.
You got the small window where you could compete on
that level. It's a small window in the grand scheme
of things, right.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean you also have a small window while your
kids are small and want to play with you.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
But then yeah, exactly, that window is even smaller, and
as a parent you realize how fast it goes, so
you see that it's tough to balance it out. That's
why I don't want to, you know. Swing from Derek Jeter,
who I always thought the fact that he started his
family after his career was kind of cool. But then again,
they missed out on his greatness. His kids will never

(05:02):
really know unless they watched the highlights. Right.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But also, I mean, much like I'm not saying I
had my kids young. I had my kids when I
was in my late thirties and my second kid at forty.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You felt young though I felt young. I feel young now.
But I mean Jeter is gonna be an older dad.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Billy Wagner said, quote, I had plenty of guests left
so he could have played more, and he also said
I was plenty good numbers. Wise, I had other responsibilities
deal with.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
It, and how could you not respect it? Of course
you respect it. I respect it. That's a tough decision.
You got to realize there's so many different ways to
look at this.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
This dude from his little league days dreamed about being
a big leaguer like most people listening to the show.
But he made it. He was good, he got there.
He's the point zero zero one percent of people on
the planet that got to live this dream out and
he's calling it quits. But he's also calling it quits

(06:04):
for the most important reason, his children. So you know
which one's your priority. That's a question in itself, but
it really doesn't matter. This is the choice he made. Now,
he still played a long time. Sixteen years in the
Bigs career era two point three. Wow, that's fantastic for six.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
When the Mets had When the Mets had him in
the mid two thousands, I was a fan man. He
was a little dude, and I was like, yo for
a little lefty, this guy throws heat. So I'm a
Billy Wagner fan all right over. I think four hundred
saves over under four hundred saves.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, he has like four fifty.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I bet four twenty two. I believe. Nine years with Houston,
four years with your Mets, two years with the Phillies Atlanta,
one year at Boston. So sixteen years in the Bigs.
Now he made the in my opinion, ultimate sacrifice. But again,
he did play sixteen years, but what a story. His
kids can't ever say anything. Hey, guess what, little billy,

(07:05):
a little nosepicker. Dad quit his big league dreams just
to hang out with you. So zip it right? Like,
what a sacrifice. I think that's sacrifice. You might as
well be increed. Hey, do you guys ever see that
meme floating around now? I just checked and it is
real Danny j being there. You're a big football fan.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You've heard those rumors where Bruce arians is so adamant
that his coaching staff never misses like a dance, recitle
a kid's play or concert saying like, yo, I'll fire
you if you prioritize this over your family, with the
family first.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
That meme has been making the rounds lately.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, it's it's nice, but you really can't be everywhere either.
That's the other thing. I think we put a lot
of pressure on ourselves as parents today and I'm getting
to that because you can't do everything right. You want
to do everything, but you can't. You also gotta make
the donuts. You gotta put brend on the table. You
gotta be says do things see a man about a horse?

(08:01):
Like my dad used to say, hey, yeay, I got
places to go, people to see Dad. Where you're going
probably at the Nudi Bar. I don't know where dad was.
It was the eighties, nobody knew Now.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I do think it is wild how parents are overly accessible.
I mean, I'll go to a kid's school event and
we have an unconventional schedule. We're on the radio, television,
the things we do over the years, I'm shocked how
you could go to a kid's school performance at ten
thirty am on a Tuesday and it's packed, Like, does

(08:36):
anyone work?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't know how they do it. Yeah, I don't
know how they do it. Maybe management is more understanding
more than ever before. I don't know how parents dip out.
You know, you and I have the luxury of doing
our own podcast, being able to shift our schedule around
a little bit. You know, obviously we have to be
here for Fox Sports. But our boss is very understanding
because he also has kids, so that's always great. But

(08:57):
Billy Wagner again sit sixteen years in the Bigs, retired
in twenty ten. He's a one, two, three, four, five, six,
like seven time All Stars something redicular.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Counting those little stars on baseball references.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yes, I am, and to me, there's no debate on
whether or not. When you really look at his numbers,
he's a Hall of Famer. But I do like what
he said. If I'm not because I retired early to
be with my family, then it's not a real hall
of fame. Then I saw another story. Remember this is
a two prong two part doozy. When I say prong,

(09:32):
snap your fingers, snap your necks to this story, there's
about five people that get that reference. Rich, I do
anybody who knows Prong. The band Ludacrous Danny g sent
us this story, and I thought it was kind of interesting.
Rapper Ludacrous move what's your fat at to ce roll out?

(09:56):
You know that song is about he was in the
bathroom and he was st because they were out of TP.
No it is, look it up. So ludicrous is in
those and he says, as crazy as it sounds. He
posts a picture of him and this beautiful young woman,
and that beautiful young woman is his daughter. And by

(10:18):
the way, Rich me, as the father of a teenage daughter,
sometimes when I'm at a restaurant with her, I almost
have to preface immediately that this is my daughter. This
isn't la creepiness going on here. It's a weird place
to be in when you look kind of young and
your kid's growing up. It really is. That's just a
side note because I do look at this picture and

(10:39):
that could be Ludacris's girlfriend for all I know, but
it's his daughter.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Dude, you have to tell the waiter no Belichick.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, that's what I usually say. You no, like out
there the check you haven't even ordered. I said, no, no, no, Belichick.
This is my kid. So Ludacris posts this picture of
his beautiful daughter. He's embracing her in this photo, and
he says, as crazy as it sounds, I always dreamt
of the day I would party in Vegas with my daughter,

(11:10):
but I also had reservations on how old I would feel.
Well that day has finally come, prayers. Now, who do
you think acted more immature in the club? And he's laughing,
and it's kind of a cool daddy daughter moment where
you could share a drink, share a table, popping bottles.
You're ludicrous, and your daughter gets to see you in

(11:31):
your element, just hanging not only as celebrity, but father
daughter having fun in Vegas dude. So that's kind of cool.
And then that got me thinking between Billy Wagner making
this ultimate sacrifice and ludicrous just so yearning to party
with his kid, dreamt of the day. I know, not

(11:51):
that our parents didn't love us. Of course they did.
My parents are my biggest fan. That's not saying a lot,
but they tune in every day. Hey, I'm not sure
my parents could love me anymore than they do. I
want to make that clear. But don't you think the
level of the level of presence, you could say, involvement,

(12:14):
is just so next level in today's world. It goes
back to that Sebastian Man of Scalco bit, the comedian
Sebastian or Old Pal where he's like, my dad didn't
even know a school. I where is school? What?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
What greater are you?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I don't even know? No, And it's like it's
so weird, how uninvolved looking back. So I want to
make it clear, it's not like, oh I wish my
dad hugged me. Daddy wasn't there to take me to
the fair. That's not what we're saying. We're just saying,
looking back, based on today's standard, how uninvolved they were.

(12:49):
Think about how involved you are, how involved Billy Wagner
is ludicrous. Lebron James, the dude sticking around. His toes
are bending, his feet are hurting, He's got great beard,
no more hair.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
In his head.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
He's sticking around just to play with his son. My
dad never wanted to play with his son.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think about how like I beg my parents, like,
play Nintendo with me, and they were like, yeah, no,
I'll do that, dude.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's what I mean. And of course they loved us.
That's just the way it was. You would beg your parents,
both of them. My mom's not off the hook. I'd
beg them to play Nintendo with me, atari with me.
And now today's parent has this crazy amount of guilt
if they're not giving their kid as much attention as
they possibly can. Maybe it's the guilt we feel because

(13:34):
we know we're on our phone nine hours a day.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't know know what is it's social media because
you're watching these videos where it's like you're gonna miss
the fingerprints on the windows one day and you get
sucked into Mike Kid will say, is it that said
you want to play I want to play Mario Party?
And I don't want to, but I hear that song.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yo going to missus?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, but if our parents had My son arrived just
the other day he said, thanks father about let's plays
had that song. Don't you think it could.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Be a whole generation of kids who didn't have enough
involvement maybe from their parents, and so they were like,
when I have kids, I'm going to be more involved.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah he said that too though.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, when we were kids, co was about to be one.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, well, hold on, I could bet you that you've
changed more cot with diapers and he's not even one
than your dad did his whole life.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Carry Oh yeah, yeah he was. He was saying, your
dad doesn't know what school you go to. My dad
didn't know what city I lived in. Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
You know, it's amazing how they just operated on a
different level of uh disconnect.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Maybe I just feel like when we were little kids,
it was more about the adults. It was the adults world.
We were just living in it. We didn't get to
tell them what we wanted for dinner. We didn't get
to call the shots for what was on TV. We
were the remote control. We got to go over and
change the channel to what they wanted, but it was
kind of like, it's about us adults.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
You kids be quiet the table.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah exactly. And that over time, yeah, that over time
has evolved to where the parents take the back seat
and put their kids.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
In the forehead. That's true. The kids run the house nowadays,
where your dad would kick you in the ass if
he wanted to. And I want to make it very clear,
this isn't like a woe is Me session of whaw dude.
My parents were at every little league game, every baseball game,
got me everything I wanted. That's not my point, but

(15:33):
it really is crazy to see the level of connection
versus the disconnect, almost like like we said, Ludacrous wants
to hang dude, I don't think I ever got a
like a burger with my dad like ever. Ever, that's
the truth. Yet I feel like I got to take
my daughter out all the time just to keep her happy.

(15:54):
It's so crazy. The level of expectation that and pressure
that we put on ourselves today is parents. It's nice
to see, but it's also I think we tried to
overcorrect it and we have to find a middle ground.
Like I don't think Billy Wagner needed to retire. I don't, dude.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I just wrote down four quick examples that came into
my head of things that your parents may have loved you,
but they didn't do the things that our generation does.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I got one. I read my kid's books. Did your
dad read your storytime?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Never? Not what my mom did though, yeah, yeah, but
my dad never. I want what I get away with
all this.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
When my kids have a nightmare, I'm laying in their
beds snuggling with him. Did your dad do cuddle time?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
My dad came boxed in in his tidy whities. Hey,
you man, a judge your mouth. And I remember he
was like, you like this guitar? I had a guitar
my mom my grandma bought me. I'm like yeah, and
he smashed it over his knees. He's like, well, zippy,
because I'm gonna break something else, kind of like what
so no, The answer is no. And by the way,
I say this respectfully, my dad is awesome. My dad

(17:03):
is the greatest. He has five kids, he loves all
of us. He's my biggest supporter. That's not it. I'm
just saying, there's just a different level of expectation. Yo,
Danny g you mentioned the food thing. You know how
many times I stupidly catch myself asking my kids like,
is this okay for dinner?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Is Chick fil a? You're gonna do it?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Like? Yeah, why am I asking them?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
We ask them for permission almost or for them to
tell us what to go get? Are you kidding? My
mom's favorite saying, and I'm sure you guys heard this too,
if you don't eat what I put on the table
for dinner, you're not eating.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, my parents with that weren't that strict, but that's
the generation we grew up and for sure, like we
heard that all the time. What's the last one? Wretch
the last one?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
And by the way, this all ties into Billy Wagner saying,
if I don't make the Hall of Fame because I
retired a little early to hang on my kids, it's
not a real Hall of Fame, and the double Doozy
Cavino pulled in Luda Ludacris, who said it's like a
dream come true to be able to party with his
daughter in Las Vegas, just showing that this is different.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
He's pulling out Lebron you know, that's really what he's
doing in real life, and you're like, wow, man, look
at all these sacrifices. And not that our parents didn't
make sacrifices, it's just a different level of sacrifice. Of course,
our parents gave up everything. They gave up their youth,
they gave up everything to raise us. That's not what
we're saying. I got to be respectful about that, because

(18:24):
I really mean it. They gave us life, you know,
they gave us clothes, they gave us everything they were
able to give us. It's just time's changed so hard
that the you know what else happened too rich where
mom took on a lot of that responsibility. The today's
mom wouldn't really do those things unless the dad was involved.

(18:47):
It became like a joint project where if mom was
changing diaper's, mom was changing diapers and dad was working
or doing whatever he was doing, mowing the lawn. Right now,
moms are like, come on, it's time to change the diapers.
This is like a joint mission.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I had the final one. I have another one.
We took the kids to a water park the other day. Yeah,
and it was almost like expected that they got a
souvenir and I'm like you kids don't realize like a souvenir,
that's like appetizers at a restaurant that you think this
didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
How bad would your dad get This is like, you know,
if you're an eighties nineties kid, even earlier, free refills
wasn't a thing. So if you're at a restaurant, if.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
You're at a give me a case yourself.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
If you're at a Howard Johnson's in the eighties and
they gave you your your Shirley Temple or your your
coke before the meal came, and you finished it before
the meal came, your dad would be giving you a
dirty look because he wasn't getting you another one.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Now, final one. And again we don't even need to
say it. My dad, your dad.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
We've we've done a show for years. They're two of
our biggest supporters. It's a different breed though, Big Steve
and my Greg listen, they're great dudes. But I thought
of this one because last night I'm down here in
Texas and I went to one of my favorite burger places.
If you know it, you know it, Pee Terry's, Pete Terry's.
I had a double cheeseburger, and I said, instead of

(20:15):
the soda, because I'm trying to stay off the soda.
If I'm gonna eat bad, upgrade it to the vanilla shape.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Oh when I tell you.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
My kids grabbed it and like, Dad, we want it,
and they finished like eighty percent of my shake. You
if your dad was having one of his favorite treats,
would he be like.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, take it.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
No, not at all. No, I can't even imagine, dude,
I can't imagine. It's just a different breed of dad,
different breed of guy, different breed of person. And it's
nice to see. But maybe, like we said, it is
no overcorrection. Maybe a social media I don't know where
these pressures came from, but maybe the pendulum swings back
in the middle where there's not so much pressure to

(20:56):
be there for every little moment. You know, So the
two doozy billy Wagner ludicrous pulling a lebron, you know,
partying with his daughter, but yearning and waiting for the moment,
and uh, you know your phone calls and your thoughts on.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
No, you know what I did think it was cool.
Do you remember having your first drink or your dad?
I remember smoking weed with my dad for the first time.
I thought that was wild.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I witnessed it. That was at your brother's wedding.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Right at the wedding, my dad's like, oh hey, and
I'm like, I'm gonna smoke with my dad. This is
wild anyway. I guess we're both grown ups, different generation.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
No, I don't remember, like my first drink with my dad,
I don't. I don't remember that. I don't. I don't
think so so ludicrous parties with his daughter now and
to prove that there's something to it. I think we
all kind of feel that way. We all wish we
had a little bit of a lebron moment at some point. Right,
some of us are going to get it. Some of
us are because we're too old. Like Danny g By

(21:53):
the time you're co was twenty one years old, you're
gonna one hundred and five.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Hey, I'm gonna be in my six and I when
I saw the Luda story, that's the first thing I
thought of, is man when he's twenty one, I'm gonna
be going towards seventy. I hope I'm still here to
enjoy something like that.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
One.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I know you're gonna be the old little league coach, right,
but hey, you're gonna do what you can.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Danny will tell him of his club days in the
nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But you know what, and to be fair, our parents
did what they could, and age did what they knew,
and they learned from an even colder, even stricter generation
of parents. That's really what it is.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Rich, Our music is so good. You know, the DJ
is still going to be playing Luda Records in twenty
years from now.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, by Usher Luda and Lil John will play when
co is in college.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So your thoughts on Billy Wagner retiring for his kids
when he still had and he said he still had
some gas and if it costs in the Hall of Fame,
did he still make the right decision? Your thoughts on
partying with your kid, your thoughts on the pressures of
being a parent today, and your thoughts on this more.
We also have Midweek Major Rich the biggest stories in

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the number is eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
So Billy Wagner, Oh, Billy, Oh really? Stats for days Yeah,

(25:44):
two point three era, eight hundred and fifty three career games,
sixteen years in the bigs. He was forty seven and
forty but four hundred and twenty two saves. He's synonymous
with closing out a game. Four hundred and twenty saves.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Closer stats are not great.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I bet you're Marriota's win loss records probably mediocre at best, right,
you know, I don't even know what it is, but
I know that based on a meme, more people have
walked on the moon than have scored on Mo Rivera
in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I know that. So he said that he retired early
to be with his kids. Respectable. Nice story. If he
doesn't make the Hall of Fame, he says, it's not
a real hall of fame because he did it for
his family and he did devote sixteen years of his
life to the big leagues. And then Ludacros said he
waited for this day to party with his daughter in

(26:34):
Vegas when she turned twenty one and they just recently
did that, and it got us thinking about how much
more parents are way involved now than they used to be.
And on the flip side of that, my mom would
be the first one to be like Steven, you put
so much pressure on yourself. You you can't do everything.

(26:54):
So on the flip side, maybe we maybe it's not
a matter of our parents or our dads especially, we're
just less involved or connected or whatever word you want
to use. Maybe we're just overboard for whatever reason. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I think we think we could do everything. And by
the way, Marianna Rivera eighty two and sixty, so yeah,
pretty decent, but not like crazy. And Billy Wagner just
such a big part. Cauvino. I know you don't think
of him as a Met, but those mid two thousands Mets.
He was on that oh six Mets team that.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
The world mid Mets mid mid Let's go to the phone.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Take some feedback.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Who do we got, Danny guy.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Let's start with our friend Mason, the millennial in the
Bay Area.

Speaker 8 (27:43):
That Mason, Hey, guys, I love the show, loves the
vibe you bring. I just wanted to offer this from
a different perspective from like maybe the sun point of view.
So like not to get too personal, but my dad,
he was like him and my mom were like separated
for a little bit, so that kind of created a
lot of time for me and my brother to spend

(28:04):
with him, you know, just on his own, and like
it was really cool, Like in the younger days, like
he always made time for us, and he's like a
boss of his own, like construction company, so we always
saw him as a boss, and he like took us
on a job and stuff and always like made time
for us. And like more along in the older life,

(28:25):
like when I was kind of a teenager a young adult,
you know, it got to a point in time where
like he knew I was smoking, and like he eventually
would would like to party with me, and like just recently, we're.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
In a Lake Tahoe, and you know, this was honestly
one of the best times I've ever had with him.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
We were like at the casino to like four or
five am, gambling, making thousands of dollars together, and like
after we enjoyed this burger at this one place.

Speaker 9 (28:54):
And it was just so cool.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
It was just me and him, and that.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Was honestly such an awesome moment for me in him.
You know, so he always made time for us, and
uh it really impacted my life as a youth, and
you know even as a young adult.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh great story, man, thanks for sharing. Mason the millennial.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Everybody would win thousands of dollars, I know, right.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Billy Wagner, by the way, guys, just just you know,
to make it clear, he said he had guests in
the tank his last season, he was thirty eight, and
you know he was seven and two with a one
point four to three ERA thirty.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Seven saves, so he wasn't even dwindling.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
He was like still primo Billy Wagner when he said, yeah,
my kids are more important.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Would you have called it a day if you got
to live the dream as a big leaguer? I wonder
how old his kids were. That's how I need to know.
I wish I knew that. I guess we could figure
that out. But yeah, yeah, I'll look that up for
you right now. That's a that's a big sacrifice, man,
you know, quitting dude, leaving anything moving on, even if
you felt like you were done, it's still a big

(29:54):
decision to make, right. Gus in Los Gatos what that
a Gus? What's up? Gus?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Gustavo?

Speaker 9 (30:05):
Hey, I just wanted to give Billy Wagner a quick
perseverance shout out. You know, as the story goes, he
was a right handed pitcher growing up and he broke
his arm. His arm was in a cast as a
young kid. Shortly after the cast came off, he rebroke
his arm and taught himself how to pitch left handed.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's insane.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
And not only taught himself how to pitch. I mean,
the guy's throwing gas. What is he five foot three?

Speaker 10 (30:34):
Yeah, so the guy's a lesson.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
He deserves a lot of credit, really is. And he
should go to the hall. But that should be on
his Hall of Fame plaque, that perseverance story.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
And and do we give him rich? Do you give
him extra credit for doing this for his kids? Like
is that something you should be Like we all respect it,
there's no question. But do you give him like even
more of a of a of a Hall of Fame
vote because of that? Like, you know what, man, you
deserve it.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
He's a well rounded guy. Listen. Tom Brady finally walked away,
and many.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Would argue that he lost that little opportunity in window
because he played too long.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
May have tore part his marriage for all you know.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
By the way, I thought he was gonna say, Billy
Wagner pulled the little big League ever plenty, not little
big league?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
What is it Rookie of the year.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
When he's like he had the cast twice, I'm like,
oh my god, he took it off and he threw
a hundred.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, A lot of people don't realize that's the kid
from American Pie. Yeah. I don't think everybody realizes that
or makes that connection. All right, somebody do some quick
math here.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Uh oh. So Wagner has four kids. His fourth arrived
in September two thousand and six. At the time, they
had three other children eight five and three.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
In two thousand and six, Oh okay, and that's when
was eight.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Five to three and the one was born in six.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So he played four more years, so four to seven, nine,
and so his kids were twelve, nine, seven and four.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's in the mix of dad life.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So he said, I have a twelve year old who's
about to be a teenager at nine, seven and four,
I have a seven and four year old. It's primo
dad time right now. So I admire Billy Wagner's decision.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's what I'm saying. He got to admire it, and
I would give him if I was cool enough to
have a vote, like yeah, of course, dude. I mean,
it's not to speak for themselves, but that just adds
to the awesomeness of the story. And again, he retired
in twenty ten, So that's it. Are are parents way
more involved now? Yes? Are we too involved? Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah?

(32:35):
You know. So it's not necessarily pointing fingers at our
parents or their generation because they did a great job. Hey,
they raised us. But maybe it's us just doing a
little too much for whatever reason. Who knows. We got
to talk Travis Kelcey, and we'll do it next because
it's time for Monthy Milanos with the update, Ola Monzy, Hi, guys,

(33:01):
Breaking news in soccer and Fox Sports with the story
Greg Berhalter is out as the US men's national team
head coach following their COPA America.

Speaker 11 (33:12):
Group stage exit. This had been a big topic of conversation.
It's official, Greg Berhalter out.

Speaker 10 (33:19):
Yes. Fox Sports with the story first.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Perfect happy about this. I see him cheering.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
He's not the only one.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
It was a big It was a big topic of
conversation that Greg Burhalter was more of a guys guy,
and it was he was more of their friend versus
their coach, and so it was kind of just people
were waiting to see when it would happen.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
So it's finally happened.

Speaker 11 (33:41):
At Euro twenty twenty four semi finals, England's Alie Watkins
scored the go ahead goal in the ninetieth minute to
defeat the Netherlands two to one. England is going to
face Spain in the final on Sunday and you can
catch that on Fox. The Copa America semi finals between
Uruguay and Colombia kicks off today at eight eastern and
you can catch all that action on FS one. Kawhi

(34:03):
Leonard has withdrawn from the US Olympic team.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
No shock there.

Speaker 11 (34:06):
USA Basketball and the Clippers determined it was in his
best interest to prepare for the upcoming NBA season then
play in Paris So Celtics card Derek White is replacing Leonard.
Anthony Edwards making that paper Apparently he's signing a lucrative.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
Extension with Adidas, believed to be worth eight figures annually.

Speaker 11 (34:23):
This is according to the Athletic In the WNBA, Asia
Wilson had twenty four points twenty rebounds. The Aces came
back to beat the Storm eighty four to seventy nine.
Caitlin Clark finished with the stat line that has never
been recorded before, not in the WNBA, not in the NBA,
twenty nine points, five rebounds, thirteen assists, five.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
Steals in three blocks. But the Fever lost to.

Speaker 11 (34:43):
The Mystics eighty nine to eighty four. In Major League Baseball,
right now, the White Sox are up on the Twins
one zero, bottom of the third inning.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
This is game two of their double header.

Speaker 11 (34:52):
Earlier today, the White Sox outscored the Twins three to one,
and immaculate inning for Chicago's and Michael Kopeck in the
ninth inning, nine pitches, nine strikeouts and they get the win.

Speaker 10 (35:01):
An immaculate inning.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
While the Royals beat the Cardinals sixty four, and the
Rangers announced that Adolis Garcia will.

Speaker 10 (35:08):
Be participating in the home run derby.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Back to you guys, nice, thank you, and I'm happy
for Derek White, but I think Caitlyn Clark should have
made the US men's Olympic team. What do you think
that would have been cool.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean, throw her on there, throw one of the
women on the men's team, just for the heck of.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
It, right, why not?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Why not at this point, Manzi, since I'm a cheesy
white guy.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yes, is it lame if I try to give the
right pronunciations to some of the athletes' names, because I
love when I hear you roll some of those rs,
Like would you make fun of me?

Speaker 12 (35:36):
No?

Speaker 10 (35:37):
I think you should try it. Give me an example.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Would you say, just at the home run Derby entered?
See see, I would say a Doulas Garcia, but.

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I was gonna say, I hope your dude, who has
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(37:46):
finishing strong. Yankees lost sixteen of their last twenty one games.
I mean, is some of the most I'm quoting random
people on social media are some of the most uninspiring
baseball I've ever seen. Dude, I see literallygue games that
are better than this. Like, it's so bad. I've never
seen him so bad, go from so good to so bad.

(38:08):
But yes, and it's ruining my vibe. But we got
two more phone calls before we talk, Kelsey, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I want you to keep in mind, though, that that's
sort of the novelty. When the Yankees jumped out to
such a hot start, you could afford a terrible slump
which every team goes through over one hundred and sixty
two games. That just now you're three games behind the Orioles.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, who are hot?

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's terrible. We're Cavino and Enrich live
from the ti Raq dot Com studios, wrapping up this daddy,
wasn't there conversation to take me to the fair? Billy
Wagner retired to be with his family. He says, fu
Hall of Fame if you don't like it, ludicrous partying
with his daughter in Vegas. He was waiting for the moment,
and we're just saying, our parents way more involved now,

(38:51):
maybe too involved, where the previous generation is just less connected, disconnected.
What giveshone? Calls? And then Kelsey, So George in Vegas.
You're on the Cavino and Rich show.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
What's up? Georgie?

Speaker 12 (39:06):
Hey, what's going on? Fellas? Hey? Listen, a couple of things.
I could talk about this for hours, but the one
thing I tell you, I've been doing this about twenty
years now, cutting hair. Shout out to Legacy Barbershop in
Las Vegas. But I will say first, every parent thinks
that their kid is the next Bryce Harper. Listen, I
know he's from here, but he's not him. He can't

(39:27):
even sit still through a haircut.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Bro.

Speaker 12 (39:29):
He's like he's got, like he's like eight years old.
He's got, he's crying, can't sit still. Mom's trying to
pacify him with everything. I'm gonna take you to Target
after this. I'm gonna buy you a toy. Here, let
me hold the iPad. Hey, can you get the hair? No,
these kids are soft, and you know what, more partly
the blame. I'm Jennet and I'll tell you what, Man,

(39:52):
I threw my kids at wrestling. I let him get
beat up. We might need some family therapy eventually. I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, it's not easy, man, No one has no one
has the blueprint, right. Yeah, he must see that all day.
And you know that goes back to what Danny was
talking about before. These kids, Man, they're just different breeds
and we're babying them. It's it's it's not easy to

(40:20):
figure out.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Well, we're doing both.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
We're giving them a lot of love, which is great,
but we are also baby in them.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's a little both.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Absolutely, Rob and Texas wrap it up this Billy Wagner discussion.

Speaker 8 (40:33):
Yeah, and so.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I want to actually talk about her grandfather. Man, he
was he was one of those guys, very quiet, you know,
big strong guy. As kids, you know, we're kind of
you love them, but you know, kind of scared of
them type of thing. And the first time ever cusses
in front of him, and I thought I was going
to die that day, but he uh so, I'm in

(40:55):
college and and uh my grades weren't so good T
D and M. And so my my reward for that
was spind a my spring break clearing cedar trees off
their new lot up there in San Antonio. And and uh,
I was like, oh god, it's gonna suck.

Speaker 13 (41:12):
You know, his first day, we do all this work,
and we get in the truck after a long day
of doing that, and he's like, all right, so you
know your your grandmother doesn't like me drinking or.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Smoking, and I know you do both. So here we
go and go to this drive through and he gets
a bottle of gym Beam and a six pack of
Coca Cola and a pack of cigarettes. Here's a greater
cruise around San Antonio up to you know, the tole
route he had planned out, and he goes, she just
take a swig out of Jim Beam bottle. He did
a chase through with the coke, and we're not gonna

(41:45):
go home until we finish it.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
And that's what I does. I love it, said, that's
a memorable moment. I get it, those special moments. That's
bonding right there. Thank you, Hey, thanks for sharing.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, we got to get ready for the next discussion.
Next down were Rich and I know it involves your
boy Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, Kelsey, Kelsey has done the most ridiculous grand gesture.
I mean he's already done it, but it's one of
the things that's already come out of Receiver, which debuted
today on Netflix. If you need something to watch, Receiver,
eight episodes are available, And Kelsey said something to George Kittle,
who's miked up, and you'll go, what, But then again,

(42:27):
it's Travis Kelcey. We'll explain what we're talking about all next.
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