August 13, 2024 • 45 mins
Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes in for C&R as they talk about Aaron Rodgers and his brutal honesty while Aaron does interviews that coincide with the release of an unauthorized new book about his life.
Dan and Kerry share their thoughts on Aaron Judge and whether or not he is an all-time Yankee great, and ask the important question: who is more famous? Caitlin Clark or Aaron Judge?
Dan and Kerry take calls on and update the FSR poll: who is more famous ? Caitlin Clark or Aaron Judge
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Football League going to be out a while, JJ McCarthy
going to have surgery on that meniscus. The oldest quarterback
in the National Football League is where we start with
Aaron Rodgers. And I do want to say this in
all of the conversations that we've had about Aaron Rodgers
(01:42):
or I've had on this network. And I do the
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays here, Doug has a it's a
relationship with Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if they're really friends,
but they've been in social circles together so they've spoken,
but you know a little bit more about Aaron Rodgers.
There's a relationship there, sure.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So when we're talking about Aaron Rodgers, we have someone
in Carry Rhodes who has first hand experience in me
just going off the handle on whatever I hear and see.
This is what we heard when Aaron Rodgers, quarterback of
the New York Jets, was on Boomer and Geo on
WFAN as they were at Jets training camp. Rogers. Obviously
there's a book coming out about him next week by
(02:26):
Ian O'Connor. Boomer and Geo had asked him about his
cooperation with the book, and it's not authorized by Aaron.
It's just about Aaron. But this was an exchange that
Boomer and Geo had with the Jets quarterback earlier today.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I've always said that of all the guys that I've
ever interviewed in the NFL that have played our position,
I don't necessarily know that there's anybody that thinks the
way that you do. Maybe Tom Brady to a certain extent,
but the things that you think about are different than
what everybody else is thinking about.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I think that that is partially true. I think
the other part is I'm willing to say non cliche
things every tune at the same time we sit down
for something like this guy not worried about the repercussions
from it. That is, that is the important point here
where I think Bloomerasison wasn't really accurate in terms of
(03:17):
the thinking. We have no idea what other quarterbacks are
thinking because they don't talk, right. Aaron Rodgers does talk
and says what he has to say. And for as
much as I've been critical of Aaron Rodgers throughout the years,
and I'm probably not going to change today, but I
do appreciate his honesty and willingness to talk about a
variety of topics that other quarterbacks really just have never
(03:39):
done in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, and that's one of my favorite things about him.
You know, a lot of guys we've been trained, and
we go through media training leaving college getting ready to
put in NFL, and obviously we want to keep those
real true emotions of certain things, certain game plans, all
that stuff really close to the vest. And so you know,
that's why you get the cliche answers from most people,
not just quarterbacks, but you know, most athletes when they're giving,
(04:03):
you know, their daily press their daily pressors.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's it's going to be minimal. What's but what do
they say in just quickly in media training, like do
they tell you to say cliches? Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They tell us to keep stay away from game plan stuff.
Number one, So we're trying not to feed our opponents
and the intimation. So we give that, but also stay
away from things that can be controversial. So if you're
a young guy, you're not going to do that number one.
Number Two, if you're in a big media market like
New York, which I was as a as a twenty
one year old kid, you don't want to stoke the fire.
(04:35):
So stay away from the fires. It's one of the
things they would teach in media training.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I guess Aaron Rodgers, because he's been in the
game as long as he has, he's not worried about
the fires. Yeah no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's established. He's his play. His play speaks for itself.
If he says something that may not fall in line
with what everybody else thinks, that doesn't really, that doesn't
bother him. As long as he's able to communicate what
in his brain, what's on his heart and put it
out there in a way that's authentic for him. He's
fine with that, and that's that's really the truth about
who he is. And I mean I've known him since
(05:08):
we came in together in oh five. He hosted my
my camp for Derby when I went back to Derby,
so we have a real relationship. So I know him
that way, and then you get to see him later
on at forty be able to live live. It's authentic truth.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's pretty It's pretty cool me so to see that.
So not that Aaron, I don't know, maybe he did.
Maybe he's giving you conspiracy theories when you're at the
camp and you're just you know, nodding your head and
maybe you're going a lot. I don't know what this
scenario is. But when you say, like the Eran that
you know, like this is the Eran that you know,
This is the Eron that that you.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
This is the Errand that I know. This doesn't mean
he was talking about conspiracy theory everything at that time.
But at his at the core, at his heart, he
is somebody that wants to be heard and taken seriously
for the stuff that he knows or he believes in,
and that's all.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And there's there's a lot to this because again, I
love the honesty in fact, as we're sitting here knowing
that we're filling in for Coveno Rich today, it's like,
all right, what are the hot topics? And this morning
I'm sitting around and I see an article says Jason
Tatum unsure about the twenty twenty eight Olympics and whether
he wants to play. And I thought to myself, Okay,
(06:17):
this could be a topic for us. But then I said, well,
if somebody asked him, were you going to play in
twenty twenty eight and he's like, I'm not sure. Number one,
he's being honest. He's may also be covering his bases.
And we don't have to give him an ev hold
him to an answer now when it's not for another
four years away. But if he isn't sure for whatever
(06:37):
variety of reasons, then that's his take. I'm not going
to pile on because he isn't sure for something that's
going to happen four years down the line. Now, if
he said no way, I'm not going to play in
the Olympic team, like after this experience, I'm not going
to then it's a conversation that we have. If he
just kind of passes it off and like, hey, it
was a great experience. There's not much there, but I'm
(06:59):
appreciate a leshonesty and I'm just like, I'm not feeling
the need to pile on at that point. He's just
being honest. The decisions along ways away. Aaron Rodgers talks
a lot. He says a lot of things. I love that.
I love his candidness. And when you're a quarterback in
the NFL for twenty years basically like he has been,
(07:19):
there is a responsibility where, guess what, your words carry
a lot more weight sure than anyone else's, which has
allowed him to say those things. However, he can also
say things that maybe a younger quarterback couldn't because of
the ramifications from it, so like he can also be
(07:40):
used as a weapon. Here's where I stand with Aaron Rodgers.
I love the honesty. I love everything about it. But
number one, don't be condescending, don't play games, and don't
try to be the smartest man in the room. And
that's where I veer off from him and the honesty
portion of it. I love the honesty talking about running
(08:01):
the football, whether it was Mike McCarthy as the head
coach or Matt Lafleur, and like that stuff, and hearing
what goes on there, absolutely, I'm sorry, Immunized was a
complete turn off when we hear what he was actually saying.
Now we find out in the book that maybe he
was allergic to some of the things in some of
(08:21):
the vaccines. You say that, I think everybody understands, but
it's you're trying to trick, You're trying to play games.
You're saying, well, nobody followed up with a follow up
question like that's the stuff that rubs me the wrong way.
And now I think that he does try to get
a reaction. He does only go to places that are
usually safe places for him to talk, save Haven's for that,
(08:44):
and so the honesty portion of it, it just becomes
a little bit more slanted. I love the honesty. I'd
much rather have Aaron Rodgers talked than Drew Brees, who
said really nothing throughout his entire career. I really don't
even know who Drew Brees is because he never really
said anything. Maybe the same thing with Tom Brady, those
sort of things. I'd rather have the Rogers portion of it,
But it doesn't mean I have to love all of it, damn.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So if somebody was if you were going to a
place and every time he went to that place, they
kicked you out the door, or they rejected you, or
the value in what you were saying at that time
wasn't appreciated, would you continue to go back to that source?
So would you go to a source that was safe
for you to communicate the way you want to community communicate?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't be going back.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And that's where that's where a lot of this comes from. Right,
So when you see the way that certain things have
been taken out of context or and the immunized thing,
that was a bad look for him, Like I will
say that as well. But when you have those things
happened to you on a consistent basis, you got to
find a place that's safe for you to do it.
And so I think that's where he's resorted to. But
(09:48):
I mean, it's it's one of those loaded things because
I do know that he wants to be heard for
the truth and so and wants his words to be
taken that way. And so it's hard when I hear
people say, you know, he's going to a safe place
to speak because that is where he's going. It's true,
that is a true statement, But I don't think that's
a bad statement.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's carried oats. I'm Dan Byer talking Aaron Rodgers here
on Fox Sports Radio. I know Jason Stewart, our executive producer,
loves this sort of topic. Where are you on Rogers
and his ability to speak and what he says and
how he says it.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well, First and foremost, I'm an audience for a lot
of the stuff that really pisses people off about him.
I like when he goes on podcasts and he talks
about these very interesting, far out things. I think that that,
onto itself is so unique. You don't see a lot
of people that we cover go and just discuss theories
kind of in a smart way. You might disagree with
(10:46):
everything that he says, but you can't say that they're
not thoughtful. And then he puts a lot of thought
into it and his own research into it. And I
think that we lose sight of that with Eric because
everyone gets gets kind of caught up in these kind
of outrage just things. And I think he went on
Hard Knocks last year and talked about aliens and stuff,
and we kind of allow that to distract us from
(11:07):
the fact that how many of these people in my
career and I've been doing this for almost what three decades?
Can we say that is at the top of his
game and is thoroughly interesting to listen to talk to
about things that have nothing to do with his sport.
So I appreciate that about him. I don't think we
could lose sight of that. I have no problem with that.
(11:27):
My problem becomes in I'll just use the alien example.
If he goes out and says, and I'm making up
a fake situation, guess what they were? Aliens spotted in
Winnipeg in two thousand and five, and nobody's talking about it,
and you're like, wait a second, I've.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Never heard of this. Maybe that's why nobody's talking about it.
But I don't believe aliens landed in Winnipeg in two
thousand and five. And then he'd be like, well, you
didn't do your research, and that's where it ends, like
in terms of that aspect of it, he's then he's
now smarter than you because he brought up a topic
that was so out there and it's just it it
(12:10):
becomes this war of words, and I think that he
says stuff like that to get the reaction, like there's
I would love to There was a clip going on
on social media from last year in the preseason game
and hearing him on the sidelines when he was jawing
with a Giants defender and he said, I gave him
the ultimate, you know, thing that you can't come back from.
(12:31):
He's like, you know, I don't know who you are,
and he said, I don't know who you are and
he's like, that's bs. That is awesome, Like that's but
that's also micd up. So I don't expect like that's
not anything special, But that's the stuff that you know,
like don those lines that I like to hear. And
I'm not trying to to mute Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron
Rodgers wants to go on his podcast and you know,
(12:52):
say all of that stuff and do all the things,
it's my choice whether to listen to it or not
listen to it. Yea and believe it. I just do
think that sometimes when he goes on the mainstream places
like a Pat McAfee and there's no one there to
push back against him, right, that it's that's the safe
place that I'm talking about. If you are talking about
more serious issues, if we're you know, just shooting the ball,
(13:15):
talking about you know, wacky things, that's one thing. But
he doesn't necessarily always talk about wacky things in his topics.
It's more serious and present day topics. And I do
think that if you're going to have a true discourse, like,
there's got to be some pushback or conversation from it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I agree with the conversation part of it. Yeah,
I think there is a level of pushback that I
think some viewers like yourself, Dan, or listeners would want
to to see happening happen. And I think that will
happen after he's done. I think there will be a
place in time where that does occur. But in the meantime,
I think he does in the safe space of being
(13:52):
able to share his thoughts and his and his beliefs
and you know, and from there we just gotta we
have to accept it or like you said, don't listen
to it, right.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I can't. I can also empathize, well, nobody's ever written
a book about me. But if he is not, if
he isn't authorizing this book, Yeah, and I'm sure there's
gonna be some stuff that he is gonna go back against. However, however,
in the same breath and I bring Jason Stewart in here. Yeah,
Jason Stewart and I were talking, I don't know, maybe
(14:21):
a year or two ago about certain documentaries and there
was the Pamela Anderson one. Yeah, that was on that
it was all about her, and I said it was
really good and you were like, not for me. It's
completely like from her point of view, right, Like, isn't
that the catch? And we've also learned about it with
the Last Dance, Like the big catch with the Last
Dance was the access to Michael Jordan. Yes.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I think the downside of that is you feel like
the documentarian, the storyteller, will feel compelled not to tell
all of the dirt. Sure, and so it's like you
have that push and shove and it seems like Aaron
Rodgers was walking a balancing act here. In that interview
today with Boomer, he also said, look, I did an
interview for I participated in it, but then he left
(15:03):
himself and out there's gonna be some true stuff, there's
gonna be some untrue stuff, but it's almost like he
leaves himself some deniability for the real extreme stuff. But
it seems like he's kind of endorsing this book.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I think. I think when it comes out, he'll be
able to point to stuff that isn't true. And that's
what he's going to talk about. I agree that never happened.
That never happened, This never happened, that never happened. Because
if Ian O'Connor is talking to five hundred different people,
there's somebody is going to say something, just like Aaron Rodgers,
that he doesn't necessarily agree with or is not in
his point of view. But instead of backing up what
(15:35):
somebody said, he would rather just deny it. And here
here's the other thing. And i'll and i'll just i'll
my final thing about this, the thing about the honesty
with players of any level, Carrie. I would say this
to you or anybody else if you are a professional athlete,
(15:56):
collegiate athlete, and I'm a member of the media, I
almost and maybe this is wrong, but I almost am
going to trust you and believe you until you give
me a reason not to. Sure. Yeah, you know, like
in that not that the and I was trying to
balance on how to say it, because I didn't want
to say that the person is on trial or the
athletes on trial. That's not it at all. It's you
(16:19):
don't have to earn my trust. I'm going to take
everything that you have said until at some point something
doesn't add up and then maybe I'm like, Okay, well
I'll have to double back or follow up on this question.
But usually I would give the athlete the benefit of
the doubt or the coach the benefit of the doubt,
and so there was an instance where something didn't match up,
and then I would question. So that's the thing with Rogers,
(16:41):
and I feel like we always give the athletes. We
actually do give them the benefit of the doubt. And
it's why guys can go a fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year
career and never say anything, you know, because we're like,
all right, this is who they are, they're going to be.
They're not going to say anything. We're going to go along.
There's not any pressing with that. And I don't think
that's necessarily great. But I don't think we go in
and I feel like gets the vice versus. So when
(17:01):
you talk about that media training, I feel that the
media is looked at as like they're trying to be
in gotcha mode, and I know that there some are,
but realistically, as someone who's trying to talk or trying
to find out stuff, or you're following the team on
a day to day basis, I would think that you
actually do initially start out in a trusting mode. Well,
and I think it differs.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So there are beat writers that are around organizations that
I had great relationships with, there are some that I
didn't and right, and so the ones that I didn't,
I was going to be a little bit more arn
re too, possibly after a hard day of practice of
somebody trying to press to get something that I'm not
worried about that at this moment, I'm trying to move
on to the next thought or the next thing. Right,
So those things are both true. I think there are
(17:44):
some that would have that mindset that you have, but
there are some that are out there too insite certain things,
and they are part of that equation as well.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
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John Hayman and The New York Post says, if you're
talking about greats in the Yankees history, Aaron Judge is
(19:16):
already a part of that conversation. Do you consider Aaron
Judge a Yankee great? A not greatest of all time?
But when you're talking about a franchise that has had
so much success over its entire history and so many
popular players and great players, do you consider Aaron Judge
(19:37):
in that class of Yankee greats?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Aaron Judge is already an all time Yankees great. Obviously,
there's a winning formula that you know, a lot of
the greats before him him has already achieved, so he's
still lacking something there. But as far as this a
dominant baseball player and being somebody that's feared throughout baseball
(20:00):
for eight years already, I consider him to be one
of the greats already for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
The funny thing that I feel like when we talk
about the Yankees is we don't group all of the
all time great Yankees in one group, Like I think
there's a different level for like DiMaggio, Babe Ruth obviously,
but you don't maybe realize how great Yogi Barro was.
Was that you that I was having a conversation about.
(20:27):
I can't remember someone was telling me. They're like, do
you realize like how amazing Yogi Barrow was as a player.
And we'd think of Yogi Barra in his sayings because
we weren't around at that time, but you look at
his accolades and they're like pretty darn amazing. And you
think of all the Yankee greats. And I'm not a
huge baseball guy, but in terms of the nineteen eighties
(20:48):
when they weren't really winning, especially in the mid to
late nineteen eighties, I think Don Manningly is considered a
Yankee great. I know he's probably the favorite player. Think
it could be Cavino's favorite player, one of his favorite
player's favorite Yankees of all time. And it was like
Don Mattingly had had a ring like there's just that
Yankee uniform carries so much weight, so even to the
(21:10):
point of like where Aaron judges ring wise, Yeah, it
may not match up to Derek Jeter and others. But
there's no doubt about in my mind that Aaron Judge
is a is a great also because he has the number,
like the ninety nine number like just fits like it
works because you're so used to all the single digit
number greatness that you have Jeter's two, Babe Ruth's three,
(21:33):
and then you have the ninety nine. I think that
plays a big part in it too. But just really
really he's done on the field. Yeah, Aaron Judge all
time Yankee great.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And just a mistique. I mean, like you said in
ninety nine, such a big guy. So he's a hooking figure.
So just like you know, through the anles of history,
I think as you get through, I guess him playing
because obviously when you play, when you're active and you're
playing a lot of times, you get kind of mythsed
with some of the praise that you deserve. But when
he's done, how big he was, the ninety nine, the power,
(22:04):
the I mean just also the golden gloves that he
got in the outfield. It's not just about what he
does at to play. I mean the guys as a
complete stud.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
The piece that Hayman writes points out numbers, wise, analytically wise,
and everything else, he should be considered among the greats.
And I don't think that there. I don't really even
dispute that. I think the big difference is how we
regard baseball, especially doing what we do for a living
on a national level. It just doesn't move the need
on anymore. Like a great example, this week, Aaron Judge
(22:37):
was in the news. Do you remember why? Because he
was giving something to Caitlin Clark, a much more famous
sports figure in this country. Shouldn't Aaron Judge be getting
gifts when he goes from city to city?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hold on, I don't think Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Hold on, good use, No way, Caitlyn Clark is more
popular than Aaron Judge. No way? Hot ta, Let's let's
let's yeah, let's bring in the unbiased opinion of Iowa. Saym,
let's let's hear this unbiased opinion. Yeah, let's after you're done,
let's go to manci who you got a Caitlin Clark
(23:15):
Iowa Jersey for her unbiased opinion?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think that she is more known internationally and she
is more popular out outside of basketball, So I would
absolutely say she's more popular than Aaron Judge. There's no
way they don't even know who Aaron Judge is. You
said what, there's people out here in California who have
don't know who Aaron Judge is.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
There is there is ay. I don't even know what
metric I could use when I'm sorry. Aaron Judge number
one has the longevity like Caitlin Clark, has been a
conversation for for a true conversation for what eighteen months?
But I think that more people know who she is.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
You know what, It's crazy, Dan, I might agree with
Iowa here, and it's not because because I'm a Yankee
fan too, and I believe that Judge is all the
things that we're saying and what you're saying as well.
I just think the explosion of the women's game and
what she did during those times it kind of unrivals
any other any other thing, any other player, any other
(24:18):
sport as well.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's it's interesting. This is where Jason's baseball problem with
baseball point maybe made exactly of where baseball is not
doing any favors Aaron Judge. But he also broke the
American League mark for home runs in a season. Yeah,
a couple of years ago we were following that, and
(24:40):
I don't care if there was. There has not been
a story over the last five years World Series included
that we have talked about on field stuff more than
that year's home run chase hasn't happened. Jack Carlos Stanton
when he was with the Marlins, what fifty seven to
fifty nine was closing in it was kind of a
story before he came to the to the Yankees. I
(25:01):
would also say that with Stanton, with Soto, Judge is
still a bigger, bigger figure, yes than those two for sure.
So like he is, and and who do we want
to see in the All Star Game? We wanted to
see Paul Skens go up against, not Caitlyn Clark, Aaron Judge.
She was the reason that we watched it. So I know,
(25:21):
we get we are a prisoner of the Caitlin Clark moment,
but there is no way that she is more popular
than Aaron Judge. That's that is that's absurd to say,
that's that's disrespectful to an MVP of Major League Baseball,
a six time All Star, a three times Silver Slugger,
(25:43):
a rookie of the year a home run derby champ.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
But okay, what's the word you're using here? Popular? Because
the word choice can be at a detriment here. So
what's what's your what's your afraid? What is what are
what are you debating here?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right now?
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Dan famous the fame fame? Yes, more people, he's more
famous for Judge. I think I think she's more famous
than Judge right now. And you know, and I'm a
Judge guy, So it's not it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Doesn't sound like it. Sure sounds like you're a Caitlin
Clark drinking the kool aid mazi. You got twenty seconds.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
I just I asked a group of my girlfriends who
aren't big sports athletes. I asked, who do you know
who Judges' Kaitlyn Clark one responded, I know Caitlyn Clark,
the basketball player.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I assume Aaron Judge is an athlete. Let's why don't
you pull some people in Jo mooin Iowa see what
they think he's carry her out. I'm Dan byer w
orring for Cavino and Rich. We'll continue this madness next.
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Speaker 3 (26:54):
This is how you know you've hit on something. You
don't even give the phone numbers out and people are
calling it. He's care your own job, Dan Byer. Yes,
we are in for Covino and Rich, but it's not
just us on this Tuesday. Mancy Belanos is at the
news desk surveying the country on the question, the debate,
the dilemma that has us talking here at Fox Sports Radio.
(27:15):
What's happening in Monsey?
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Just trying to get my mic up, That's all.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's all right, Hey, Iowa. Sam's got other things to
worry about, like how is the poll question going online?
As it's Kaitlin Clark the Aaron Judge. Hello, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Jason Stewart is here as well, our executive producer who
claimed that Caitlin Clark was more popular than Aaron Judge.
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the poll without me in it, So that's good.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That actually gets engagement on something.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
I don't even know what I do here, but Cavino
and Rich are tagged in.
Speaker 11 (28:12):
They're here, No they're not.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh my god, excellent. Well you would have skewed the
numbers because monsis like I sent a textile to all
of her girlfriends, right, yes, who are not sports fans. Yes,
you know, and they all know who Caitlin Clark is.
I thought one of them knew who Caitlyn Clark was,
but the other ones had no idea. No, they all
(28:34):
knew that Caitlyn Clark. One just says she only knows.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Her because of me, and then they all said they
assume Aaron Judge is an athlete.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is completely biased. This is just this is absurd,
Like I get it from Iowa Sam and and an
extension from you because Iowa Sam got you the shirt
because you treated Iowa Sam to something. So there's you know,
this back and forth of appreciation. I'm shocked by Carrie
(29:03):
and Jason to be matter of fact, who's a baseball guy.
It's just this is, this is you are all prisoners
of the moment like this there is. I'm sorry, it's
you're a prisoner of what is happening right now and
what has happened over the last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Well, I don't want to be on this side. I
don't want to be on this side. I've been forced
into a corner. Have you ever seen You've heard the
term don't put baby in the corner. Yes, baby's in
the corner now right we're surrounded by Iowa, Sam and Moncy.
You see this triangle right here.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I am right dad in the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
All right, and so I have to listen and take
the information and put it in a nice package. And
the package to me says, right now, Caitlin Clark is
more famous, and so I just have to go with that. Dan,
I'm sorry, sorry, Aaron, all right, if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Jerry's Jerry's. If he's in Pennsylvania, he's in Lancaster. If
he's in California's in Lancaster. Jerry, Welcome in to Fox
Sports Radio. I haven't even given out the phone numbers
and you've already called in the wigh in on this,
Kitlyn Clark, Aaron Judge, do you have us on speed dial? Jerry?
Is that what we got?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
No?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
I just have you in my memory?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Nice eight seven seven nine nine on Fox? Jerry, what
side are you on?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Mom?
Speaker 12 (30:27):
Kaitlin Clark? FID do you have dar? Aaron Judge is
an all star athlete, but Caitlin Clark is a phenox.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Oh all right, okay, Nice, all right, Jerry, Come on, man,
you guys are so discrediting what Aaron Judge is.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
Not what we're doing, even if we are prisoners of
the moment, that can be true.
Speaker 13 (30:50):
And it could also be true that Caitlin Clark is
more famous.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Aaron Judge has been getting MVP vote since twenty seventeen. Yes,
this is Bradley Cooper as a movie out, and so
he would be more famous than Tom Cruise. That that's
the that's the point. But Tom Cruise has got way
more and is way more famous than Bradley Cooper is.
But if Bradley Cooper had a movie out right now,
he would be considered, according to you guys, more famous
(31:16):
than Tom. You just know you're twisting saying I'm telling
what it is, Aaron Judge said, season after season after season,
he brought you sixty two home runs in twenty twenty two.
He's been the face of the Yankees. In fact, he's
been the new face of the Yankees. He's the one
that is actually outside of you know Otanian and his
(31:37):
comment like you know rise and and how everybody has
drawn to him. Aaron Judge is the guy in Major
League Baseball. It's who we wanted to see of the
All Star Game and has done it for year after
year after year after year. Caitlin Clark comes along for
eighteen months and all of a sudden, no, she's more
famous like that, Just that's unfair to Aaron Judge. Well,
we'll talk about the fair the best player. See, we've
(32:00):
had the discussion. I've had it with Jason.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He wanted to say ol Tani was the best player
in baseball, and I came back with Judge.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
So that's who I am.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I know that I have so much affinity for him
and his talent and him being a phenom, which he is.
But all that being said, I still see her as
being more famous at the moment.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's all.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
It's like when I went around asking everybody who's more famous,
Lebron James or Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, now here we
are in this moment, Kaylyn Clarker Aaron Judge, Bitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
The Taylor Swift has also been around for a long time,
like he had an opportunity to build up her fan base.
This Kayln Clark truly for his greatest story as she is.
And I know she was in Iowa at Iowa for
four years and was doing this.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Her fantom didn't just just come out of nowhere eighteen
months ago. It's been building for four years. But I
get what you're saying. Yeah, but it's been the last
eighteen months. And I'm even saying leading up to the
upset of South Carolina and beating and then using the
LSU like I'm taking the months including that. I'm going
back to January February of twenty twenty three. That's where
(33:08):
I'm starting.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And there was time before that where we would see
her maybe on a Sports Center top ten list. But
I mean, this is Aaron freaking Judge of the New
York Yankees. Yeah, yes, to us he is. To the
average person, he is not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think that's what you have to look at like
we're not talking to people who follow sports even a
little bit. To us, he is the man, Aaron Judge
of the Yankees to the average Person's who.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
The average person eighteen months ago was saying, who who's
doing this for? I? Yes, that's true, that's right, that's right. Yes,
So there's gotta be some equity built up for Aaron
Judge for doing this year after year after year. Man,
if you say that one more time, we're gonna You're right. No,
like you are right. There's no question about it. You
(33:57):
know what I mean, I'm gonna hear it for the
next twelve minutes because that's why you guys, just you
guys are just prisoners of the moment. But even if
we are, it's still it's still true.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
Both can be true.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm not speaking from my fandom. I think I'm just speaking.
I think I'm just being realistic.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Raygun is more popular than Caitlyn Clark right now, how
about that? Because that's all that we're talking about is
the Australian brand. But Sills, that's anticipates talk. No, that's
all that I see.
Speaker 13 (34:25):
Australian breakdancer, like you couldn't use.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
That flash in the pants. She's a fifteen minute fame.
You know, when he first said I thought you were
talking about we be Gone, I literally was like, is
this Rago sauce? Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh the break Dancer, Yeah, the Breakdancer. You know, but
Ronald Reagun.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
But she's Mike is in North Carolina, Mike, welcome to
Judge versus Caitlin here on Cavino and Rich Mike, North
Carolina going Hey, what's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 14 (34:57):
Great sho man. I wish you guys were going every night.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 14 (35:03):
You know, I think everybody's right. It is a prisoner
of the moment. But at this moment, she is more
famous Aaron Judge, like, she's She's not as famous as
Tom Bray, She's not as famous as Michael Jordan's. But
at this moment in mainstream like who would TMZ cover
if they were walking out of a restaurant her or
(35:25):
Aaron Judge? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Well to Jason Stewart's point, when they were together at
the game, right, Katelyn, he feels that Caitlyn Clark was
this is the interesting part of it because I look
at it as like Aaron Judge is welcoming Kitlyn Clark in,
and he's looking at it as like, here's Kaitlyn Clark,
the star of the show. There, she is starring at
(35:48):
the Yankee game. And I don't look at it like that.
Like I look at it as like Aaron Judge is like, hey,
welcome to the class of superstars. I've been here for
a while. You may be new to all of this,
but welcome in. Because he's Aaron Judge. It's not like
they took Jazz Chisholm and had him welcomer exactly because
they're both new to the party.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Can I offer one theory why perspective?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think I think that she taps A sports fan
is going to know who Kaitlyn Clark is and Aaron Judge,
but the average woman out there, I think you're tapping
into that demographic that a woman who's not a sports fan,
who's just looking at social media, she's going to see
Kaylyn Clark splashed across her feed, and she's going to
root for Kaitlyn Clark because it's a woman doing cool
things in the WNBA and in college basketball. So I
(36:34):
think that you have a broader audience now with the
woman female demographic.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Terry is in Mississippi weighing in Aaron Judge versus Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 15 (36:46):
Terreen was Sam just made an excellent point and I
promised curse on air. Uh No, Kaitlyn Clark changed the league.
I don't think Aaron Judge did that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So I'm going to go with with Aaron Judge made
the Yankees the Yankees again. Here's the reason, Like, Aaron
Judge is the reason that the Yankees are the Yankees
again because there was a point that they weren't being
the Yankees and then Aaron Judge came along and saved
the day. Is just ston not get any credit for
that though? No he doesn't, No, he really doesn't, because
(37:24):
it's been Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge has been the more
consistent one. He's been the MVP. Sure, he's been the one.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, but I also think what kind of saturates that
a little bit for Judge's calls or case. It's the
Yankees have won so much and so there's a level
of that that he hasn't done. So when you talk
about changing the Yankees. The Yankees have been the Yankees.
They had a down moment, but what Caitlin did for
the WNBA is still unparalleled.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yes, because the WNBA was Yeah, yes, exactly. So like
you're starting from from scratch. There's there's not a lot
Judge can can do for the grand scheme of the Yankees,
but for what he's done over the last seven years,
I think, I mean he is over the last seven years.
(38:15):
Of top three baseball names you are naming Aaron, Judge
is one of those three. Whether you want to do Trout, Harper, Judge, Otani, Yes, Judge, Auna,
whatever you want to do, Judge is in that top
Judges that it's not way baseball right now? Dan, Yeah,
no question there you go right there. But still you're
signing with Caitlyn. Yes, I am. Okay, we're gonna go
(38:36):
to North Dakota. Okay, this is Roger Merris country. Tim,
if you vote for Kitlyn Clark, I know you're kind
of close to Iowa, but not really close to Iowa.
I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself. Tim,
welcome the Comino and rich.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
Well, I am from Iowa. But you keep hitting on
the point he's with the Yankees, and a lot of
people having the Yankees slam down their throats, so it
would be, Oh, I'd pick Kate mcclark over the Yankee
(39:13):
guy any day of the Sure their haters, Tim how many,
how much he's done for baseball, that's my series.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Anyway, I'll tell you what two years ago and he
was hitting sixty two, he was the story. Yeah, and
there haven't been a lot of great stories in baseball.
These stories that we've talked about have been cheating, gambling,
pitch clock and injuries. And the only one that we're
talking about actually in a positive way has been Aaron
Judge and joey Otani when he's not maybe gambling. That's
(39:43):
another story. Joe is in Montana. Hi, perfect, Joe Montana.
I love it. And there was a Joe Montana, Welcome
to Fox Sports.
Speaker 11 (39:53):
What I've Joe, we don't have baseball and we don't
have WNBA. And the only reason that you know, I
even know about the WNBA is because of Kayle and Clark.
But Judge is mister Baseball.
Speaker 12 (40:08):
Yeah, and we've heard about them.
Speaker 11 (40:10):
For seven years and they're again like, we don't have
a baseball team. Over here. But I sure as heck
know who he is and what he's doing done for,
you know, the league, minus the fact that he's playing
for the Yankees. People might not like the Yankees because
of whatever, but he is still a huge He's bringing
a big hitters back into the league without steroids, you
(40:32):
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yes, yes, yes, And so.
Speaker 11 (40:34):
I'm all for what he's doing. And Kaylin Clark's popular
right now, but it's short lived and in six months,
I think it'll be coming to an end.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, let's have this in six months.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Let's have this conversation as not going anywhere in six months,
but you know, long Jeb does matter for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know it would certainly helped Aaron Judge is making
it to a World Series. He's been there since what
year in that it would he's been to I think
since twenty seventeen. They've made three ALCS appearances, yes, and
they haven't moved past that. And I think him getting
to a World Series and winning one would be uh what.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Would be a bigger impact? Help him? Him going to
a World Series or Kitlyn Clark to the WNBA finals.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Oh, him to the World Series one hundred percent. But
then there's one thing about this on another national scale.
Have you seen Judge in any big time commercials anything
on the national level.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
Didn't he have one? Research?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
But you got to think about it. I do have
to think about balance or Gatorade, one of those I
think I swear. But that's that's a crazy part about it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Like I don't understand why he isn't getting more fame
as a more fame because of the way he plays
the clean image. So that's another discussion as well. I
wonder where that's where that's going.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Does Judge get any points that other people in baseball
don't hate him? Is there any points just getting it
was a joke? Nick is in Vermont. Nick, Welcome to
Judge Versus Caitlyn here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Hey, guys, thank you so much for having me on.
I just want to say, while I don't pick favorites,
I got a hollot to my girl, Muncy. I love
hearing you on the air.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Completely, yeah, totally unbiased.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Which also leads me to my next point, which also
again has nothing to do with dame biased. I think
I'm going to err on the side of Caitlyn, and
I think it really comes down to the point of relevancy.
A lot of people are saying a lot of good things,
But I think when if we were having this conversation,
when Aaron was having his big home run year, he's
in his contract talks, he's trying to make a point
to the Yankees. Sure, Aaron would sleep all day, but
(42:43):
right now you have a whole league that's on a
rise based on the shoulders of Caitlyn Clark, and Aaron
has kind of faded into the background because there's other
younger names and he's just you know, the Yankees aren't
really doing anything.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
So as someone who.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
Watches a lot of sports and I don't pay attention
to baseball or the WNBA equally, I would say that
if you put their two photos next to each other,
I'd recognize Caitlin Clark long before I recognized that was
Aaron Judge if he wasn't wearing the Yankees uniform. And
I guess that's my two cents.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Nice, Nick, appreciate it. Do you
wanna do you want to call any friends or family
members to call in? Manzi, you've got a Monty fan.
She texted her girlfriends. But see, I think that's Oh,
she knows Nick too, for sure, you is job.
Speaker 13 (43:28):
That's the thing is I feel like that To really
find out who is fame, miss, you ask people who
are not into sports, right who are not paying attention
to the everyday sports stories.
Speaker 10 (43:38):
That's how you find out who is actually more famous.
And we've had Preller forever responding to us, and he
makes perfect sense to talk to a girl was the
most famous person in America.
Speaker 8 (43:47):
For how long?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Now she's gone.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
But like fame comes and goes, and it's not for
the reasons you think that they maybe should be famous for.
You know, he brought up Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton
like they were also famous for their own things. So
it's just like right now Kitlyn Clark is more famous
right now.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Their own things is right? That is for sure. Leave
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on this the question.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
The votes are just coming in fast and furious on
the pole that I did not tag MONTI Yet it's
true who is more famous right now? Aaron Judge or
Kaitlyn Clark. Right now it's running seventy one percent Kaitlyn
Clark with three hundred and thirty votes. And I want
to say, John Alguero, who's listening, responded to the poll
(44:48):
with nobody cares stupid questions.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Thank you, John, But.
Speaker 13 (44:53):
When you comment, you indicate that you do care, of course,
like why are people don't calm?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
You keep scrolling when you don't care. The opposite of
love is not hate, but three hundred empathy, three.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Hundred and thirty votes in a couple of minutes, we'll
say that people are caring.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Dan Echols tweets in great first name, awful take here, Darren,
You're missing the point. Judge may be more talented and established,
but popularity has nothing to do with that. Caitlin's Clark's
popularity spans across society, sports fans, women and kids. Then
why didn't this happen two years ago? Why has it
only been eighteen months? Judge has been carrying this on
his back for seven years. He's carried her out to
(45:33):
I'm dan Byer hit Mancy up at Moncy Blanios. I
had to tell you that because she was not again
included in the tweet that was sent out. Jason gave
me crap for spelling her name wrong once in its tweet,
so I can return serve with that, and.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Then Jason tells me to retweet it because I didn't
put you on it.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Can you retweet it at Jason Stewart at IOWASAV ninety
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on ours show it says, you know, Carrie Rose all
pro listen, I'm just carry Rose.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I got to use that substitute for here's the good
news Carries and Monty. I'll tell you this, at least
you didn't get the woman moaning in the update that
they're the intro like that is that's Is that your
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in the National Football League is where we start with
Aaron Rodgers. And I do want to say this in
all of the conversations that we've had about Aaron Rodgers
(01:42):
or I've had on this network. And I do the
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays here, Doug has a it's a
relationship with Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if they're really friends,
but they've been in social circles together so they've spoken,
but you know a little bit more about Aaron Rodgers.
There's a relationship there, sure.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So when we're talking about Aaron Rodgers, we have someone
in Carry Rhodes who has first hand experience in me
just going off the handle on whatever I hear and see.
This is what we heard when Aaron Rodgers, quarterback of
the New York Jets, was on Boomer and Geo on
WFAN as they were at Jets training camp. Rogers. Obviously
there's a book coming out about him next week by
(02:26):
Ian O'Connor. Boomer and Geo had asked him about his
cooperation with the book, and it's not authorized by Aaron.
It's just about Aaron. But this was an exchange that
Boomer and Geo had with the Jets quarterback earlier today.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I've always said that of all the guys that I've
ever interviewed in the NFL that have played our position,
I don't necessarily know that there's anybody that thinks the
way that you do. Maybe Tom Brady to a certain extent,
but the things that you think about are different than
what everybody else is thinking about.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I think that that is partially true. I think
the other part is I'm willing to say non cliche
things every tune at the same time we sit down
for something like this guy not worried about the repercussions
from it. That is, that is the important point here
where I think Bloomerasison wasn't really accurate in terms of
(03:17):
the thinking. We have no idea what other quarterbacks are
thinking because they don't talk, right. Aaron Rodgers does talk
and says what he has to say. And for as
much as I've been critical of Aaron Rodgers throughout the years,
and I'm probably not going to change today, but I
do appreciate his honesty and willingness to talk about a
variety of topics that other quarterbacks really just have never
(03:39):
done in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, and that's one of my favorite things about him.
You know, a lot of guys we've been trained, and
we go through media training leaving college getting ready to
put in NFL, and obviously we want to keep those
real true emotions of certain things, certain game plans, all
that stuff really close to the vest. And so you know,
that's why you get the cliche answers from most people,
not just quarterbacks, but you know, most athletes when they're giving,
(04:03):
you know, their daily press their daily pressors.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's it's going to be minimal. What's but what do
they say in just quickly in media training, like do
they tell you to say cliches? Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They tell us to keep stay away from game plan stuff.
Number one, So we're trying not to feed our opponents
and the intimation. So we give that, but also stay
away from things that can be controversial. So if you're
a young guy, you're not going to do that number one.
Number Two, if you're in a big media market like
New York, which I was as a as a twenty
one year old kid, you don't want to stoke the fire.
(04:35):
So stay away from the fires. It's one of the
things they would teach in media training.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I guess Aaron Rodgers, because he's been in the
game as long as he has, he's not worried about
the fires. Yeah no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's established. He's his play. His play speaks for itself.
If he says something that may not fall in line
with what everybody else thinks, that doesn't really, that doesn't
bother him. As long as he's able to communicate what
in his brain, what's on his heart and put it
out there in a way that's authentic for him. He's
fine with that, and that's that's really the truth about
who he is. And I mean I've known him since
(05:08):
we came in together in oh five. He hosted my
my camp for Derby when I went back to Derby,
so we have a real relationship. So I know him
that way, and then you get to see him later
on at forty be able to live live. It's authentic truth.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's pretty It's pretty cool me so to see that.
So not that Aaron, I don't know, maybe he did.
Maybe he's giving you conspiracy theories when you're at the
camp and you're just you know, nodding your head and
maybe you're going a lot. I don't know what this
scenario is. But when you say, like the Eran that
you know, like this is the Eran that you know,
This is the Eron that that you.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
This is the Errand that I know. This doesn't mean
he was talking about conspiracy theory everything at that time.
But at his at the core, at his heart, he
is somebody that wants to be heard and taken seriously
for the stuff that he knows or he believes in,
and that's all.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And there's there's a lot to this because again, I
love the honesty in fact, as we're sitting here knowing
that we're filling in for Coveno Rich today, it's like,
all right, what are the hot topics? And this morning
I'm sitting around and I see an article says Jason
Tatum unsure about the twenty twenty eight Olympics and whether
he wants to play. And I thought to myself, Okay,
(06:17):
this could be a topic for us. But then I said, well,
if somebody asked him, were you going to play in
twenty twenty eight and he's like, I'm not sure. Number one,
he's being honest. He's may also be covering his bases.
And we don't have to give him an ev hold
him to an answer now when it's not for another
four years away. But if he isn't sure for whatever
(06:37):
variety of reasons, then that's his take. I'm not going
to pile on because he isn't sure for something that's
going to happen four years down the line. Now, if
he said no way, I'm not going to play in
the Olympic team, like after this experience, I'm not going
to then it's a conversation that we have. If he
just kind of passes it off and like, hey, it
was a great experience. There's not much there, but I'm
(06:59):
appreciate a leshonesty and I'm just like, I'm not feeling
the need to pile on at that point. He's just
being honest. The decisions along ways away. Aaron Rodgers talks
a lot. He says a lot of things. I love that.
I love his candidness. And when you're a quarterback in
the NFL for twenty years basically like he has been,
(07:19):
there is a responsibility where, guess what, your words carry
a lot more weight sure than anyone else's, which has
allowed him to say those things. However, he can also
say things that maybe a younger quarterback couldn't because of
the ramifications from it, so like he can also be
(07:40):
used as a weapon. Here's where I stand with Aaron Rodgers.
I love the honesty. I love everything about it. But
number one, don't be condescending, don't play games, and don't
try to be the smartest man in the room. And
that's where I veer off from him and the honesty
portion of it. I love the honesty talking about running
(08:01):
the football, whether it was Mike McCarthy as the head
coach or Matt Lafleur, and like that stuff, and hearing
what goes on there, absolutely, I'm sorry, Immunized was a
complete turn off when we hear what he was actually saying.
Now we find out in the book that maybe he
was allergic to some of the things in some of
(08:21):
the vaccines. You say that, I think everybody understands, but
it's you're trying to trick, You're trying to play games.
You're saying, well, nobody followed up with a follow up
question like that's the stuff that rubs me the wrong way.
And now I think that he does try to get
a reaction. He does only go to places that are
usually safe places for him to talk, save Haven's for that,
(08:44):
and so the honesty portion of it, it just becomes
a little bit more slanted. I love the honesty. I'd
much rather have Aaron Rodgers talked than Drew Brees, who
said really nothing throughout his entire career. I really don't
even know who Drew Brees is because he never really
said anything. Maybe the same thing with Tom Brady, those
sort of things. I'd rather have the Rogers portion of it,
But it doesn't mean I have to love all of it, damn.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So if somebody was if you were going to a
place and every time he went to that place, they
kicked you out the door, or they rejected you, or
the value in what you were saying at that time
wasn't appreciated, would you continue to go back to that source?
So would you go to a source that was safe
for you to communicate the way you want to community communicate?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't be going back.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And that's where that's where a lot of this comes from. Right,
So when you see the way that certain things have
been taken out of context or and the immunized thing,
that was a bad look for him, Like I will
say that as well. But when you have those things
happened to you on a consistent basis, you got to
find a place that's safe for you to do it.
And so I think that's where he's resorted to. But
(09:48):
I mean, it's it's one of those loaded things because
I do know that he wants to be heard for
the truth and so and wants his words to be
taken that way. And so it's hard when I hear
people say, you know, he's going to a safe place
to speak because that is where he's going. It's true,
that is a true statement, But I don't think that's
a bad statement.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's carried oats. I'm Dan Byer talking Aaron Rodgers here
on Fox Sports Radio. I know Jason Stewart, our executive producer,
loves this sort of topic. Where are you on Rogers
and his ability to speak and what he says and
how he says it.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well, First and foremost, I'm an audience for a lot
of the stuff that really pisses people off about him.
I like when he goes on podcasts and he talks
about these very interesting, far out things. I think that that,
onto itself is so unique. You don't see a lot
of people that we cover go and just discuss theories
kind of in a smart way. You might disagree with
(10:46):
everything that he says, but you can't say that they're
not thoughtful. And then he puts a lot of thought
into it and his own research into it. And I
think that we lose sight of that with Eric because
everyone gets gets kind of caught up in these kind
of outrage just things. And I think he went on
Hard Knocks last year and talked about aliens and stuff,
and we kind of allow that to distract us from
(11:07):
the fact that how many of these people in my
career and I've been doing this for almost what three decades?
Can we say that is at the top of his
game and is thoroughly interesting to listen to talk to
about things that have nothing to do with his sport.
So I appreciate that about him. I don't think we
could lose sight of that. I have no problem with that.
(11:27):
My problem becomes in I'll just use the alien example.
If he goes out and says, and I'm making up
a fake situation, guess what they were? Aliens spotted in
Winnipeg in two thousand and five, and nobody's talking about it,
and you're like, wait a second, I've.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Never heard of this. Maybe that's why nobody's talking about it.
But I don't believe aliens landed in Winnipeg in two
thousand and five. And then he'd be like, well, you
didn't do your research, and that's where it ends, like
in terms of that aspect of it, he's then he's
now smarter than you because he brought up a topic
that was so out there and it's just it it
(12:10):
becomes this war of words, and I think that he
says stuff like that to get the reaction, like there's
I would love to There was a clip going on
on social media from last year in the preseason game
and hearing him on the sidelines when he was jawing
with a Giants defender and he said, I gave him
the ultimate, you know, thing that you can't come back from.
(12:31):
He's like, you know, I don't know who you are,
and he said, I don't know who you are and
he's like, that's bs. That is awesome, Like that's but
that's also micd up. So I don't expect like that's
not anything special, But that's the stuff that you know,
like don those lines that I like to hear. And
I'm not trying to to mute Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron
Rodgers wants to go on his podcast and you know,
(12:52):
say all of that stuff and do all the things,
it's my choice whether to listen to it or not
listen to it. Yea and believe it. I just do
think that sometimes when he goes on the mainstream places
like a Pat McAfee and there's no one there to
push back against him, right, that it's that's the safe
place that I'm talking about. If you are talking about
more serious issues, if we're you know, just shooting the ball,
(13:15):
talking about you know, wacky things, that's one thing. But
he doesn't necessarily always talk about wacky things in his topics.
It's more serious and present day topics. And I do
think that if you're going to have a true discourse, like,
there's got to be some pushback or conversation from it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I agree with the conversation part of it. Yeah,
I think there is a level of pushback that I
think some viewers like yourself, Dan, or listeners would want
to to see happening happen. And I think that will
happen after he's done. I think there will be a
place in time where that does occur. But in the meantime,
I think he does in the safe space of being
(13:52):
able to share his thoughts and his and his beliefs
and you know, and from there we just gotta we
have to accept it or like you said, don't listen
to it, right.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I can't. I can also empathize, well, nobody's ever written
a book about me. But if he is not, if
he isn't authorizing this book, Yeah, and I'm sure there's
gonna be some stuff that he is gonna go back against. However, however,
in the same breath and I bring Jason Stewart in here. Yeah,
Jason Stewart and I were talking, I don't know, maybe
(14:21):
a year or two ago about certain documentaries and there
was the Pamela Anderson one. Yeah, that was on that
it was all about her, and I said it was
really good and you were like, not for me. It's
completely like from her point of view, right, Like, isn't
that the catch? And we've also learned about it with
the Last Dance, Like the big catch with the Last
Dance was the access to Michael Jordan. Yes.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I think the downside of that is you feel like
the documentarian, the storyteller, will feel compelled not to tell
all of the dirt. Sure, and so it's like you
have that push and shove and it seems like Aaron
Rodgers was walking a balancing act here. In that interview
today with Boomer, he also said, look, I did an
interview for I participated in it, but then he left
(15:03):
himself and out there's gonna be some true stuff, there's
gonna be some untrue stuff, but it's almost like he
leaves himself some deniability for the real extreme stuff. But
it seems like he's kind of endorsing this book.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I think. I think when it comes out, he'll be
able to point to stuff that isn't true. And that's
what he's going to talk about. I agree that never happened.
That never happened, This never happened, that never happened. Because
if Ian O'Connor is talking to five hundred different people,
there's somebody is going to say something, just like Aaron Rodgers,
that he doesn't necessarily agree with or is not in
his point of view. But instead of backing up what
(15:35):
somebody said, he would rather just deny it. And here
here's the other thing. And i'll and i'll just i'll
my final thing about this, the thing about the honesty
with players of any level, Carrie. I would say this
to you or anybody else if you are a professional athlete,
(15:56):
collegiate athlete, and I'm a member of the media, I
almost and maybe this is wrong, but I almost am
going to trust you and believe you until you give
me a reason not to. Sure. Yeah, you know, like
in that not that the and I was trying to
balance on how to say it, because I didn't want
to say that the person is on trial or the
athletes on trial. That's not it at all. It's you
(16:19):
don't have to earn my trust. I'm going to take
everything that you have said until at some point something
doesn't add up and then maybe I'm like, Okay, well
I'll have to double back or follow up on this question.
But usually I would give the athlete the benefit of
the doubt or the coach the benefit of the doubt,
and so there was an instance where something didn't match up,
and then I would question. So that's the thing with Rogers,
(16:41):
and I feel like we always give the athletes. We
actually do give them the benefit of the doubt. And
it's why guys can go a fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year
career and never say anything, you know, because we're like,
all right, this is who they are, they're going to be.
They're not going to say anything. We're going to go along.
There's not any pressing with that. And I don't think
that's necessarily great. But I don't think we go in
and I feel like gets the vice versus. So when
(17:01):
you talk about that media training, I feel that the
media is looked at as like they're trying to be
in gotcha mode, and I know that there some are,
but realistically, as someone who's trying to talk or trying
to find out stuff, or you're following the team on
a day to day basis, I would think that you
actually do initially start out in a trusting mode. Well,
and I think it differs.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
So there are beat writers that are around organizations that
I had great relationships with, there are some that I
didn't and right, and so the ones that I didn't,
I was going to be a little bit more arn
re too, possibly after a hard day of practice of
somebody trying to press to get something that I'm not
worried about that at this moment, I'm trying to move
on to the next thought or the next thing. Right,
So those things are both true. I think there are
(17:44):
some that would have that mindset that you have, but
there are some that are out there too insite certain things,
and they are part of that equation as well.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So it's tough. These carry roads, they all pro if
you didn't catch it at the beginning, hit them up
at Carrie twenty four five roads. You can find me
at dan byer on Fox at Jason Stewart up at
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John Hayman and The New York Post says, if you're
talking about greats in the Yankees history, Aaron Judge is
(19:16):
already a part of that conversation. Do you consider Aaron
Judge a Yankee great? A not greatest of all time?
But when you're talking about a franchise that has had
so much success over its entire history and so many
popular players and great players, do you consider Aaron Judge
(19:37):
in that class of Yankee greats?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Aaron Judge is already an all time Yankees great. Obviously,
there's a winning formula that you know, a lot of
the greats before him him has already achieved, so he's
still lacking something there. But as far as this a
dominant baseball player and being somebody that's feared throughout baseball
(20:00):
for eight years already, I consider him to be one
of the greats already for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
The funny thing that I feel like when we talk
about the Yankees is we don't group all of the
all time great Yankees in one group, Like I think
there's a different level for like DiMaggio, Babe Ruth obviously,
but you don't maybe realize how great Yogi Barro was.
Was that you that I was having a conversation about.
(20:27):
I can't remember someone was telling me. They're like, do
you realize like how amazing Yogi Barrow was as a player.
And we'd think of Yogi Barra in his sayings because
we weren't around at that time, but you look at
his accolades and they're like pretty darn amazing. And you
think of all the Yankee greats. And I'm not a
huge baseball guy, but in terms of the nineteen eighties
(20:48):
when they weren't really winning, especially in the mid to
late nineteen eighties, I think Don Manningly is considered a
Yankee great. I know he's probably the favorite player. Think
it could be Cavino's favorite player, one of his favorite
player's favorite Yankees of all time. And it was like
Don Mattingly had had a ring like there's just that
Yankee uniform carries so much weight, so even to the
(21:10):
point of like where Aaron judges ring wise, Yeah, it
may not match up to Derek Jeter and others. But
there's no doubt about in my mind that Aaron Judge
is a is a great also because he has the number,
like the ninety nine number like just fits like it
works because you're so used to all the single digit
number greatness that you have Jeter's two, Babe Ruth's three,
(21:33):
and then you have the ninety nine. I think that
plays a big part in it too. But just really
really he's done on the field. Yeah, Aaron Judge all
time Yankee great.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And just a mistique. I mean, like you said in
ninety nine, such a big guy. So he's a hooking figure.
So just like you know, through the anles of history,
I think as you get through, I guess him playing
because obviously when you play, when you're active and you're
playing a lot of times, you get kind of mythsed
with some of the praise that you deserve. But when
he's done, how big he was, the ninety nine, the power,
(22:04):
the I mean just also the golden gloves that he
got in the outfield. It's not just about what he
does at to play. I mean the guys as a
complete stud.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
The piece that Hayman writes points out numbers, wise, analytically wise,
and everything else, he should be considered among the greats.
And I don't think that there. I don't really even
dispute that. I think the big difference is how we
regard baseball, especially doing what we do for a living
on a national level. It just doesn't move the need
on anymore. Like a great example, this week, Aaron Judge
(22:37):
was in the news. Do you remember why? Because he
was giving something to Caitlin Clark, a much more famous
sports figure in this country. Shouldn't Aaron Judge be getting
gifts when he goes from city to city?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Hold on, I don't think Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Hold on, good use, No way, Caitlyn Clark is more
popular than Aaron Judge. No way? Hot ta, Let's let's
let's yeah, let's bring in the unbiased opinion of Iowa. Saym,
let's let's hear this unbiased opinion. Yeah, let's after you're done,
let's go to manci who you got a Caitlin Clark
(23:15):
Iowa Jersey for her unbiased opinion?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think that she is more known internationally and she
is more popular out outside of basketball, So I would
absolutely say she's more popular than Aaron Judge. There's no
way they don't even know who Aaron Judge is. You
said what, there's people out here in California who have
don't know who Aaron Judge is.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
There is there is ay. I don't even know what
metric I could use when I'm sorry. Aaron Judge number
one has the longevity like Caitlin Clark, has been a
conversation for for a true conversation for what eighteen months?
But I think that more people know who she is.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
You know what, It's crazy, Dan, I might agree with
Iowa here, and it's not because because I'm a Yankee
fan too, and I believe that Judge is all the
things that we're saying and what you're saying as well.
I just think the explosion of the women's game and
what she did during those times it kind of unrivals
any other any other thing, any other player, any other
(24:18):
sport as well.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's it's interesting. This is where Jason's baseball problem with
baseball point maybe made exactly of where baseball is not
doing any favors Aaron Judge. But he also broke the
American League mark for home runs in a season. Yeah,
a couple of years ago we were following that, and
(24:40):
I don't care if there was. There has not been
a story over the last five years World Series included
that we have talked about on field stuff more than
that year's home run chase hasn't happened. Jack Carlos Stanton
when he was with the Marlins, what fifty seven to
fifty nine was closing in it was kind of a
story before he came to the to the Yankees. I
(25:01):
would also say that with Stanton, with Soto, Judge is
still a bigger, bigger figure, yes than those two for sure.
So like he is, and and who do we want
to see in the All Star Game? We wanted to
see Paul Skens go up against, not Caitlyn Clark, Aaron Judge.
She was the reason that we watched it. So I know,
(25:21):
we get we are a prisoner of the Caitlin Clark moment,
but there is no way that she is more popular
than Aaron Judge. That's that is that's absurd to say,
that's that's disrespectful to an MVP of Major League Baseball,
a six time All Star, a three times Silver Slugger,
(25:43):
a rookie of the year a home run derby champ.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
But okay, what's the word you're using here? Popular? Because
the word choice can be at a detriment here. So
what's what's your what's your afraid? What is what are
what are you debating here?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right now?
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Dan famous the fame fame? Yes, more people, he's more
famous for Judge. I think I think she's more famous
than Judge right now. And you know, and I'm a
Judge guy, So it's not it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Doesn't sound like it. Sure sounds like you're a Caitlin
Clark drinking the kool aid mazi. You got twenty seconds.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
I just I asked a group of my girlfriends who
aren't big sports athletes. I asked, who do you know
who Judges' Kaitlyn Clark one responded, I know Caitlyn Clark,
the basketball player.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I assume Aaron Judge is an athlete. Let's why don't
you pull some people in Jo mooin Iowa see what
they think he's carry her out. I'm Dan byer w
orring for Cavino and Rich. We'll continue this madness next.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
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Speaker 3 (26:54):
This is how you know you've hit on something. You
don't even give the phone numbers out and people are
calling it. He's care your own job, Dan Byer. Yes,
we are in for Covino and Rich, but it's not
just us on this Tuesday. Mancy Belanos is at the
news desk surveying the country on the question, the debate,
the dilemma that has us talking here at Fox Sports Radio.
(27:15):
What's happening in Monsey?
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Just trying to get my mic up, That's all.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's all right, Hey, Iowa. Sam's got other things to
worry about, like how is the poll question going online?
As it's Kaitlin Clark the Aaron Judge. Hello, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
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claimed that Caitlin Clark was more popular than Aaron Judge.
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the poll without me in it, So that's good.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That actually gets engagement on something.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
I don't even know what I do here, but Cavino
and Rich are tagged in.
Speaker 11 (28:12):
They're here, No they're not.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh my god, excellent. Well you would have skewed the
numbers because monsis like I sent a textile to all
of her girlfriends, right, yes, who are not sports fans. Yes,
you know, and they all know who Caitlin Clark is.
I thought one of them knew who Caitlyn Clark was,
but the other ones had no idea. No, they all
(28:34):
knew that Caitlyn Clark. One just says she only knows.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Her because of me, and then they all said they
assume Aaron Judge is an athlete.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is completely biased. This is just this is absurd,
Like I get it from Iowa Sam and and an
extension from you because Iowa Sam got you the shirt
because you treated Iowa Sam to something. So there's you know,
this back and forth of appreciation. I'm shocked by Carrie
(29:03):
and Jason to be matter of fact, who's a baseball guy.
It's just this is, this is you are all prisoners
of the moment like this there is. I'm sorry, it's
you're a prisoner of what is happening right now and
what has happened over the last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Well, I don't want to be on this side. I
don't want to be on this side. I've been forced
into a corner. Have you ever seen You've heard the
term don't put baby in the corner. Yes, baby's in
the corner now right we're surrounded by Iowa, Sam and Moncy.
You see this triangle right here.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I am right dad in the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
All right, and so I have to listen and take
the information and put it in a nice package. And
the package to me says, right now, Caitlin Clark is
more famous, and so I just have to go with that. Dan,
I'm sorry, sorry, Aaron, all right, if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Jerry's Jerry's. If he's in Pennsylvania, he's in Lancaster. If
he's in California's in Lancaster. Jerry, Welcome in to Fox
Sports Radio. I haven't even given out the phone numbers
and you've already called in the wigh in on this,
Kitlyn Clark, Aaron Judge, do you have us on speed dial? Jerry?
Is that what we got?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
No?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
I just have you in my memory?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Nice eight seven seven nine nine on Fox? Jerry, what
side are you on?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Mom?
Speaker 12 (30:27):
Kaitlin Clark? FID do you have dar? Aaron Judge is
an all star athlete, but Caitlin Clark is a phenox.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Oh all right, okay, Nice, all right, Jerry, Come on, man,
you guys are so discrediting what Aaron Judge is.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
Not what we're doing, even if we are prisoners of
the moment, that can be true.
Speaker 13 (30:50):
And it could also be true that Caitlin Clark is
more famous.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Aaron Judge has been getting MVP vote since twenty seventeen. Yes,
this is Bradley Cooper as a movie out, and so
he would be more famous than Tom Cruise. That that's
the that's the point. But Tom Cruise has got way
more and is way more famous than Bradley Cooper is.
But if Bradley Cooper had a movie out right now,
he would be considered, according to you guys, more famous
(31:16):
than Tom. You just know you're twisting saying I'm telling
what it is, Aaron Judge said, season after season after season,
he brought you sixty two home runs in twenty twenty two.
He's been the face of the Yankees. In fact, he's
been the new face of the Yankees. He's the one
that is actually outside of you know Otanian and his
(31:37):
comment like you know rise and and how everybody has
drawn to him. Aaron Judge is the guy in Major
League Baseball. It's who we wanted to see of the
All Star Game and has done it for year after
year after year after year. Caitlin Clark comes along for
eighteen months and all of a sudden, no, she's more
famous like that, Just that's unfair to Aaron Judge. Well,
we'll talk about the fair the best player. See, we've
(32:00):
had the discussion. I've had it with Jason.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He wanted to say ol Tani was the best player
in baseball, and I came back with Judge.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
So that's who I am.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I know that I have so much affinity for him
and his talent and him being a phenom, which he is.
But all that being said, I still see her as
being more famous at the moment.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's all.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
It's like when I went around asking everybody who's more famous,
Lebron James or Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, now here we
are in this moment, Kaylyn Clarker Aaron Judge, Bitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
The Taylor Swift has also been around for a long time,
like he had an opportunity to build up her fan base.
This Kayln Clark truly for his greatest story as she is.
And I know she was in Iowa at Iowa for
four years and was doing this.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Her fantom didn't just just come out of nowhere eighteen
months ago. It's been building for four years. But I
get what you're saying. Yeah, but it's been the last
eighteen months. And I'm even saying leading up to the
upset of South Carolina and beating and then using the
LSU like I'm taking the months including that. I'm going
back to January February of twenty twenty three. That's where
(33:08):
I'm starting.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And there was time before that where we would see
her maybe on a Sports Center top ten list. But
I mean, this is Aaron freaking Judge of the New
York Yankees. Yeah, yes, to us he is. To the
average person, he is not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think that's what you have to look at like
we're not talking to people who follow sports even a
little bit. To us, he is the man, Aaron Judge
of the Yankees to the average Person's who.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
The average person eighteen months ago was saying, who who's
doing this for? I? Yes, that's true, that's right, that's right. Yes,
So there's gotta be some equity built up for Aaron
Judge for doing this year after year after year. Man,
if you say that one more time, we're gonna You're right. No,
like you are right. There's no question about it. You
(33:57):
know what I mean, I'm gonna hear it for the
next twelve minutes because that's why you guys, just you
guys are just prisoners of the moment. But even if
we are, it's still it's still true.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
Both can be true.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm not speaking from my fandom. I think I'm just speaking.
I think I'm just being realistic.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Raygun is more popular than Caitlyn Clark right now, how
about that? Because that's all that we're talking about is
the Australian brand. But Sills, that's anticipates talk. No, that's
all that I see.
Speaker 13 (34:25):
Australian breakdancer, like you couldn't use.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
That flash in the pants. She's a fifteen minute fame.
You know, when he first said I thought you were
talking about we be Gone, I literally was like, is
this Rago sauce? Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh the break Dancer, Yeah, the Breakdancer. You know, but
Ronald Reagun.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
But she's Mike is in North Carolina, Mike, welcome to
Judge versus Caitlin here on Cavino and Rich Mike, North
Carolina going Hey, what's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 14 (34:57):
Great sho man. I wish you guys were going every night.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 14 (35:03):
You know, I think everybody's right. It is a prisoner
of the moment. But at this moment, she is more
famous Aaron Judge, like, she's She's not as famous as
Tom Bray, She's not as famous as Michael Jordan's. But
at this moment in mainstream like who would TMZ cover
if they were walking out of a restaurant her or
(35:25):
Aaron Judge? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Well to Jason Stewart's point, when they were together at
the game, right, Katelyn, he feels that Caitlyn Clark was
this is the interesting part of it because I look
at it as like Aaron Judge is welcoming Kitlyn Clark in,
and he's looking at it as like, here's Kaitlyn Clark,
the star of the show. There, she is starring at
(35:48):
the Yankee game. And I don't look at it like that.
Like I look at it as like Aaron Judge is like, hey,
welcome to the class of superstars. I've been here for
a while. You may be new to all of this,
but welcome in. Because he's Aaron Judge. It's not like
they took Jazz Chisholm and had him welcomer exactly because
they're both new to the party.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Can I offer one theory why perspective?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think I think that she taps A sports fan
is going to know who Kaitlyn Clark is and Aaron Judge,
but the average woman out there, I think you're tapping
into that demographic that a woman who's not a sports fan,
who's just looking at social media, she's going to see
Kaylyn Clark splashed across her feed, and she's going to
root for Kaitlyn Clark because it's a woman doing cool
things in the WNBA and in college basketball. So I
(36:34):
think that you have a broader audience now with the
woman female demographic.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Terry is in Mississippi weighing in Aaron Judge versus Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 15 (36:46):
Terreen was Sam just made an excellent point and I
promised curse on air. Uh No, Kaitlyn Clark changed the league.
I don't think Aaron Judge did that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So I'm going to go with with Aaron Judge made
the Yankees the Yankees again. Here's the reason, Like, Aaron
Judge is the reason that the Yankees are the Yankees
again because there was a point that they weren't being
the Yankees and then Aaron Judge came along and saved
the day. Is just ston not get any credit for
that though? No he doesn't, No, he really doesn't, because
(37:24):
it's been Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge has been the more
consistent one. He's been the MVP. Sure, he's been the one.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, but I also think what kind of saturates that
a little bit for Judge's calls or case. It's the
Yankees have won so much and so there's a level
of that that he hasn't done. So when you talk
about changing the Yankees. The Yankees have been the Yankees.
They had a down moment, but what Caitlin did for
the WNBA is still unparalleled.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yes, because the WNBA was Yeah, yes, exactly. So like
you're starting from from scratch. There's there's not a lot
Judge can can do for the grand scheme of the Yankees,
but for what he's done over the last seven years,
I think, I mean he is over the last seven years.
(38:15):
Of top three baseball names you are naming Aaron, Judge
is one of those three. Whether you want to do Trout, Harper, Judge, Otani, Yes, Judge, Auna,
whatever you want to do, Judge is in that top
Judges that it's not way baseball right now? Dan, Yeah,
no question there you go right there. But still you're
signing with Caitlyn. Yes, I am. Okay, we're gonna go
(38:36):
to North Dakota. Okay, this is Roger Merris country. Tim,
if you vote for Kitlyn Clark, I know you're kind
of close to Iowa, but not really close to Iowa.
I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself. Tim,
welcome the Comino and rich.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
Well, I am from Iowa. But you keep hitting on
the point he's with the Yankees, and a lot of
people having the Yankees slam down their throats, so it
would be, Oh, I'd pick Kate mcclark over the Yankee
(39:13):
guy any day of the Sure their haters, Tim how many,
how much he's done for baseball, that's my series.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Anyway, I'll tell you what two years ago and he
was hitting sixty two, he was the story. Yeah, and
there haven't been a lot of great stories in baseball.
These stories that we've talked about have been cheating, gambling,
pitch clock and injuries. And the only one that we're
talking about actually in a positive way has been Aaron
Judge and joey Otani when he's not maybe gambling. That's
(39:43):
another story. Joe is in Montana. Hi, perfect, Joe Montana.
I love it. And there was a Joe Montana, Welcome
to Fox Sports.
Speaker 11 (39:53):
What I've Joe, we don't have baseball and we don't
have WNBA. And the only reason that you know, I
even know about the WNBA is because of Kayle and Clark.
But Judge is mister Baseball.
Speaker 12 (40:08):
Yeah, and we've heard about them.
Speaker 11 (40:10):
For seven years and they're again like, we don't have
a baseball team. Over here. But I sure as heck
know who he is and what he's doing done for,
you know, the league, minus the fact that he's playing
for the Yankees. People might not like the Yankees because
of whatever, but he is still a huge He's bringing
a big hitters back into the league without steroids, you
(40:32):
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yes, yes, yes, And so.
Speaker 11 (40:34):
I'm all for what he's doing. And Kaylin Clark's popular
right now, but it's short lived and in six months,
I think it'll be coming to an end.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, let's have this in six months.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Let's have this conversation as not going anywhere in six months,
but you know, long Jeb does matter for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know it would certainly helped Aaron Judge is making
it to a World Series. He's been there since what
year in that it would he's been to I think
since twenty seventeen. They've made three ALCS appearances, yes, and
they haven't moved past that. And I think him getting
to a World Series and winning one would be uh what.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Would be a bigger impact? Help him? Him going to
a World Series or Kitlyn Clark to the WNBA finals.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Oh, him to the World Series one hundred percent. But
then there's one thing about this on another national scale.
Have you seen Judge in any big time commercials anything
on the national level.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
Didn't he have one? Research?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
But you got to think about it. I do have
to think about balance or Gatorade, one of those I
think I swear. But that's that's a crazy part about it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Like I don't understand why he isn't getting more fame
as a more fame because of the way he plays
the clean image. So that's another discussion as well. I
wonder where that's where that's going.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Does Judge get any points that other people in baseball
don't hate him? Is there any points just getting it
was a joke? Nick is in Vermont. Nick, Welcome to
Judge Versus Caitlyn here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Hey, guys, thank you so much for having me on.
I just want to say, while I don't pick favorites,
I got a hollot to my girl, Muncy. I love
hearing you on the air.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Completely, yeah, totally unbiased.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Which also leads me to my next point, which also
again has nothing to do with dame biased. I think
I'm going to err on the side of Caitlyn, and
I think it really comes down to the point of relevancy.
A lot of people are saying a lot of good things,
But I think when if we were having this conversation,
when Aaron was having his big home run year, he's
in his contract talks, he's trying to make a point
to the Yankees. Sure, Aaron would sleep all day, but
(42:43):
right now you have a whole league that's on a
rise based on the shoulders of Caitlyn Clark, and Aaron
has kind of faded into the background because there's other
younger names and he's just you know, the Yankees aren't
really doing anything.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
So as someone who.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
Watches a lot of sports and I don't pay attention
to baseball or the WNBA equally, I would say that
if you put their two photos next to each other,
I'd recognize Caitlin Clark long before I recognized that was
Aaron Judge if he wasn't wearing the Yankees uniform. And
I guess that's my two cents.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Nice, Nick, appreciate it. Do you
wanna do you want to call any friends or family
members to call in? Manzi, you've got a Monty fan.
She texted her girlfriends. But see, I think that's Oh,
she knows Nick too, for sure, you is job.
Speaker 13 (43:28):
That's the thing is I feel like that To really
find out who is fame, miss, you ask people who
are not into sports, right who are not paying attention
to the everyday sports stories.
Speaker 10 (43:38):
That's how you find out who is actually more famous.
And we've had Preller forever responding to us, and he
makes perfect sense to talk to a girl was the
most famous person in America.
Speaker 8 (43:47):
For how long?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Now she's gone.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
But like fame comes and goes, and it's not for
the reasons you think that they maybe should be famous for.
You know, he brought up Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton
like they were also famous for their own things. So
it's just like right now Kitlyn Clark is more famous
right now.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Their own things is right? That is for sure. Leave
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on this the question.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
The votes are just coming in fast and furious on
the pole that I did not tag MONTI Yet it's
true who is more famous right now? Aaron Judge or
Kaitlyn Clark. Right now it's running seventy one percent Kaitlyn
Clark with three hundred and thirty votes. And I want
to say, John Alguero, who's listening, responded to the poll
(44:48):
with nobody cares stupid questions.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Thank you, John, But.
Speaker 13 (44:53):
When you comment, you indicate that you do care, of course,
like why are people don't calm?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
You keep scrolling when you don't care. The opposite of
love is not hate, but three hundred empathy, three.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Hundred and thirty votes in a couple of minutes, we'll
say that people are caring.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Dan Echols tweets in great first name, awful take here, Darren,
You're missing the point. Judge may be more talented and established,
but popularity has nothing to do with that. Caitlin's Clark's
popularity spans across society, sports fans, women and kids. Then
why didn't this happen two years ago? Why has it
only been eighteen months? Judge has been carrying this on
his back for seven years. He's carried her out to
(45:33):
I'm dan Byer hit Mancy up at Moncy Blanios. I
had to tell you that because she was not again
included in the tweet that was sent out. Jason gave
me crap for spelling her name wrong once in its tweet,
so I can return serve with that, and.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Then Jason tells me to retweet it because I didn't
put you on it.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Can you retweet it at Jason Stewart at IOWASAV ninety
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