Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk Changing of the Guard in the NFL, College Football Recap & MORE!

Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks open the show discussing some of the major storylines from Week 12 in College Football, and then transition into Brian Daboll’s firing, Joe Burrow’s return & more. Plus, new editions of Ask Bucky, and the Blame Game! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, was it the right move or maybe it
was just playing being selfish. We'll get to that in
just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox
Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and
Andy Furman and we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. And I believe he's here, my partner, my friend,
mister Bucky Brooks. How are you.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And well, I'll tell you what's going on. You know
it was back. Brie is back. She can't stay away.
Welcome back, Brie. We missed you, Well, you weren't here
last week. We're not gonna say we missed you. But
you weren't here last week.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well, you're not gonna say you missed me. No, God,
we missed you.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, we missed you. Okay, we missed you. Okay. Now
we got to ask Booky. You're in charge like this
as Bucky thing, How does it work at the bottom
of this hour?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Yes, So, if anybody wants to call in and ask
Bucky a question, they could call eight seven seven nine
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tweet at Fox Sports Radio. Any questions you might have
for Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Brooks sounds great. Thank you so much. In your bag now,
Bucket Brooks. I got a question for you. Why because
you played the game. I didn't play the game. You
played the game. You're a pro, once a pro, always
a pro. You played in the National Football League. I
got a football question. And look, when they say you're
on a team, I think that everybody is in there
for one and one reason only. That's why it's a team.

(01:22):
I read this story just the other day. Miami of
Ohio got a starting quarterback by name with the Kwan
Finn all right, seventh year player, over eight thousand career
pissing yards. He played for three teams already in college.
That I don't even understand as well, but that's another story.
He left the program to begin preparing for the NFL.
Why they played the other day, Miami of Ohio played Toledo.
They lost, and he left the team. Okay, The coach

(01:45):
of Miami of Ohio, Chuck Martin, said, well he departed.
He was he didn't die, he just left the team.
The coach that he departed, well, that's not the wrong word.
But he left the team Friday. He told the team
that he appreciated the quarterbacks eleven months on the program,
but will not see him the rest of the year.
Get this, buck, Get this. He spent the first five
years of his college five years five years of his

(02:05):
college script first five years at University of Toledo, and
in twenty twenty four he was a Baylor and now
he's at Miami of Ohio. That's one thing I don't
even understand. That's another story. But after the game and
they lost, they lost to Toledo on Wednesday, twenty four
to twenty. I guess they figured they're not going to
win the Mid American Conference. So he says, the hell
with you guys, I'm leaving, unpacking my bags. Ongoing is

(02:26):
his kid selfish? I think he is. You're a teammate,
you're a leader, you're in a quarterback and he's packing
his bags and leaving. Tell me the story about this.
Have you ever heard a story like this before?

Speaker 6 (02:38):
So I just saw the story last night, and it's
one of the more selfish things that I've seen a
player do.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
And the fact that he thinks that he's going to
be able.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
To prepare and get ready for the NFL. Like NFL
scouts are going to look negatively upon this because he
left his team in a lurch, and they know that
as soon as he gets tough for him in the league,
he's going to do the same thing zip.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
In those same behaviors.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Even though scouts and evaluators have gotten more comfortable with
the idea of people bouncing around, transferring and such, it
still makes them uncomfortable to see people run from adversity.
And to me, this is a player running from a
bit of adversity, Like, Okay, your team can't play for
the championship, so now you bail on it. What are
you gonna do at the first out of trouble in

(03:22):
the league. It's a bad move, It's a selfish move,
and it's one that would kind of be a smudge
on his career.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I can't believe that we agree, we're on the same
page right now for this, because I think it's common sense.
Be Gad's selfish? Is that in my mind? But here's
another thing I don't get. He played forty five games
in University of Toledo. I don't get it. How does
he still play? I mean, he's been in college seven years. Yeah,
I don't think he's stupid. I mean, how do you

(03:47):
stay in college and be eligible for seven years? Explain
that to me, please, I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Without looking at his history, I would think that there's
a red shirt, some kind of medical red shirt that
he was able to receive to extend his career. But
you're right when you talk about spent four years at Toledo,
in another year at Baylor, and then's able to make
his way to Miami, Ohio. It doesn't seem like he
should have all of that eligibility, but somehow he worked it.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
He worked it out. To me, it's just.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
All of it though, just kind of screams of a
selfishness that you certainly don't like.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Like people are put up with it.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
They'll evaluate the talent in those things, but when it
comes to the character, the football character that people like,
that people want on their team, he certainly falls.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Short, no doubt about that. So he was at Toledo
and then he transferred to Baylor. He opened the twenty
twenty fourth season at Baylor as the starting quarterback. After
Week three, he lost the job to Sawyer Robertson. So
now he goes to Miami.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, the next question I have is he getting nil
money at all these schools? That's I guess he is, right.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I mean, well, Nio just came into play like the
last few years, so maybe he got he has some,
you know, but I mean I don't know. But even then,
like still it doesn't change how you feel about his act,
because his act still comes off as very very selfish
and me centric. That he started at a place and

(05:15):
then just kind of took off and did his own
thing like that certainly is not Yeah, that's not cool.
That's unbecoming of someone that you want to be the
leader of your team and to do some of the
things that you certainly want your quarterback, your QB one
to do.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
There's no doubt I was asked you a question. Obviously
I know the answer. You know, would you do something
like that? There's no way, there's no way in the
on God's green earth you would ever do that. I know.
I mean maybe I wouldn't know. I don't think I.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Would even entertain her. Like it's just such a bad,
such a bad move.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It just looks bad, it smells bad. Teammates and me,
I'm gonna move on, just I gotta take a shower. Now.
That's how dirty he makes me feel. I really does.
I will to talk about the college football yesterday a
couple of biggies. I'm looking this Texas A and M score,
I'm looking back and forth. They were down thirty to
three at halftime. I said, what was to South Carolina? No? Less? Right?

(06:08):
And they win? How does that turn out? I don't understand.
Have you ever seen a game like that? Texas A
and M scored twenty eight unanswered points over the first
twenty minutes of the second half, and they won thirty
one to thirty. How does that happen? How does I mean?
South Carolina right now must be sticking the head in
the toilet. I don't understand how that could happen.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
Well, I mean they certainly are sick giving that up
because they were dominating the game the first half and
completely let it go in the second half.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
It is something that you rarely see.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
You don't see teams fall apart like that, and for
them to do it. Shane Beemer is already facing a
lot of heat, a lot of scrutiny. He's fired a
lot of coaches over the course of the season. Now
this just opens him up even more to be evaluated
in those things TEXTA, A and M is loaded.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
They're good.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
I mean, they have a really good team. They were
stum got the gate, but hats off to them and
Mike Elko, the head coach, for getting them back on track.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
And finding a way to win. And you know, here's
the thing.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
They not only won, but they really, I mean almost
gave South Carolina a chance to win the game.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
At the end.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
They're down at the goal line and they run a
trick play that goes awry, and they gave South Carolina
one final opportunity to move the ball down the field
in an attempt to kick a game winning field goal,
and they were just able to get the stop. But
I mean, this is one where the score is not
even an indication of how they dominated the second half.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I mean, so texaon A and M remains undefeated, ten
and zero, seven to zero the SEC and their quarterback
passed with something like four hundred and forty yards yesterday.
I don't get it. So South Carolina three and seven,
one and seven overall, and last year they were nine
and four. So he's in trouble, right, I mean, I
would think that they missed the bowl. They didn't go
to a bowl in twenty twenty three, and they're not

(07:52):
going to go to a bowl game this year. So
I think he's in trouble. That's just the way it is, right,
I think what the NIL has done for college coaches
at least go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Generally, you're right he is in trouble.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
NIO is certainly escalated, ramped up the pressure on coaches
to perform each and every weekend. If your team has
a down season, people are looking to move on because
they have.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
So much invested. Before it was just an emotional investment.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Now it's an emotional and financial investment, which makes it
even harder when you underperform to retain your job.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right, I agree, big us. Right now they think that
you could like turn it around in a season with
NIL just get the roster teams instead of doing Now Alabama,
right now the morning in Alabama today in Tuscaloosa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma,
all of a sudden's came back from the dead. I mean,
I can't believe what they did. They beat They beat Alabama,
say in Alabama twenty three, twenty one, and Alabama came

(08:48):
into the game tied for third nationally and fewest turnovers
six turnovers in the entire season, but they had three
against Oklahoma yesterday, all right, and they only had like
what two hundred and something? You are Oklahoma totally watching
the game. So their defense was unbelievable. The stop stay
they did in Alabama yesterday, I saw that tough deal.

(09:08):
I mean, knocking the ball out. They're just so tough
on defense yesterday. I hadn't seen Oklahoma do that early
in the season. They kind of ramped it up a
little bit yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Credit Brent Venables for getting this team up and going.
There's a lot of conversation about him coaching for his
job at Oklahoma heading into the year, and he's put
together a fantastic run them for them to knock off Alabama,
and the way in which they were able to get
it done played great on both.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Sides of the ball.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
They controlled the game for most of the game, and
then they made some plays when they really needed to,
when the game was hanging in the balance, they were
able to make some plays. Had to pick six, got
another turnover to set up a field goal. Oklahoma made
the plays and Alabama uncharacteristically turned the ball over. And
I know we're still making the adjustment to seeing this
Alabama team under Kaitlyn the ball after seeing it for

(10:00):
years and years and years under Nick Saban. But man,
just the turnovers, the mistakes that they made, we're not seeing.
We're not used to seeing Alabama beat themselves like they
beat themselves against Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right he talked about a team that got beat up
pretty good yesterday. That was Texas, Georgia beat up and
I'm pretty good thirty five to ten. Now, let's talk
about Texas for a second. Right now. They came in
with all the hype and arch manning whatever it may be.
Texas now is seven and three overall, four and two
in the SEC. I would tell you right here and
now that they don't look like a college football playoff
team right as far as I'm concerned. And they got
two games to go, and I'm not even sure they

(10:33):
could win those two games. They got Arkansas and Texas
A and M left in the final two weeks. Those
teams they got to beat them both with some help
to get into the playoffs. At seven and three, I
don't think they're going postseason this year, I just don't.
I don't. And the hype, the hype that came with
Texas coming into the season, you know, just fools gold

(10:54):
h Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I mean, look, it was a team that was hype.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
I mean, think about two of the teams that were
hyped the most penn State in Texas, both are flounder.
Andy won't have an opportunity to participate in the playoff
with Texas. The hype was magnified by the fact that
you had a quarterback Arch Manning who was expected to
be the number one overall pick in next year's draft.
That's not going to happen. And the hype that went
around that preceded him in terms of being a Heisman

(11:18):
Trophy candidate also is not going to happen because he
hasn't played up to that level. And what you've seen
is he's a young quarterback that is still developed and
still needs to kind of acclimate to the level that
he's playing. Gap and the other parts around him have
not been able to mask his deficiencies, whether it's that
offense in terms of running the football, whether it's the

(11:40):
playmakers around trying to turn some of those short passes
into big games, or the defense being able to keep
the score down until the offense can find the rhythm.
Texas just has not been able to play a high
level of conflimentary football to mask the deficiencies of a
quarterback that's not quite ready to be a franchise guy.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, I have an apology to make. Okay, I was questioning.
I think it was last week with you like where
Notre Dame was in the polls. Okay, I apologize. Yeah,
Notre Dame right now, it deserves everything. They got eight
straight wins, eight straight wins by double digits. They took
care of twenty second ranked pit yesterday thirty seven fifteen,

(12:17):
and right now, the two losses that they had early
on in the year, forget about that. They're eight and
two and I think this team, I think, honestly they
have a legitimate shot maybe to go into the championship game.
I really believe that Notre Dame has really put it
all together. I love Notre Dame right now, eight and
two right now and winning, but winning big. That was
a challenge yesterday, twenty second ranked bit you know, on

(12:39):
the road. I thought that maybe they'd give Notre Dame
but a game Notre Dame just destroyed them. I mean,
they only had two hundred and something yards and offense
and I think it was something like, oh for thirteen
on third down conversions.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Yeah. No, So it's very interesting to look at that
and to kind of see how Notre Dame was able
to do it. They dominated in terms of the physicality
at the point of attack. Pittsburgh is a team to
kind of pride themselves and being bullies and all of that,
but Notre Dame. Notre Dame gave them the business right
from the jump. And I think the thing that's most

(13:13):
impressive about Notre Dame on this run is and back
to back years they've had to get up off the
matt and find their way back into the conversation. That
comes from Marcus Freeman being able to really inspire and
lead his team, to lead them out of the storm,
to bounce back from the adversity, to fix a defense
that people were really tearing apart early in the year.

(13:34):
That's him and he has become one of the best
coaches in college football.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Through the fire. That is a big.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Job, that is a job that is not for the
fan of heart, and he's been able to not only
take that job and elevated over his predecessor Brian Kelly.
But man, he has made this team into a hardened
team that can be any team that they face on
the road, at home, neutral, or whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
This is a really good Notre Dame team.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You know, speaking of Marcus Freeman, you know, you don't
hear him as far as quotes, controversy, you know, pointing fingers.
You know, they just go about their business and they win.
I mean, every week you'll hear a quote from a coach,
whoever it may be, of Miami, Florida, Georgia Kirby. I mean,
all these guys, Glenn Kiffin, that everybody's talking. Everybody has

(14:26):
something to say. I don't hear much out of Note
Your Dame except the score is true? Is that just me?
I think just the way there's a kind of a
very button up operation. Go out there, do their business,
win on the field, and that's the end of it.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good way to
kind of put it. They do kind of just go
about their business and make it happen. The thing that
I love about Freeman he has a humanity about him.
He's been around winning programs, he did a terrific job
being the defensive coordinator at Cincinnati, and then even the
defensive coordinator earlier Notre Dame before taking over for Brank Kelly.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He just has a way about him.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
And he's so grounded in his leadership ability and grounded
and really serving the kids that he does that the
ego doesn't get in the way. But I think if
you look, you'll find some things that are that apposted
quotes that he said, but I think they're all said
in the context of the team and serving the players,

(15:23):
which is why his humility works, because the players certainly
respect that. He doesn't make the program about him. He
makes it about them. That's why they played for a
mart right.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You talk about Bill O'Brien, Now, he almost had a
big upset yesterday at Boston College. Boston College was leading
Georgia Tech twenty eight to seventeen in the second half
and they lost thirty six thirty four. And I look
at that some of the highlights of that game. I
just think that there are some teams and they only
had one win going into the game. Anyway, they just
don't know how to win. They don't know how to close.

(15:53):
We see it in the NFL. I mean the last
several years before we sort of change the coaches in
Los Angeles. With that, then San Diego Chargers couldn't close.
They had leads in the third and fourth quarter. They
always lost ball games. You know. The New York Football
Giants are doing that this year. They can't close. Boston
College had the game, they couldn't close it out. They
don't know how to close it out. I think there's
a key to do that. I don't think that's coaching.

(16:15):
I just think that's individuals, DNA, you know, knowing that
we're going to win this game, and in the fact
that they know that they've never done that before, they
can't do it. Am I wrong about that? I don't
think I am. They just don't know how to close
it out. They can't win.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Yeah, I mean I think there is an art to
winning and you do have to learn how to do it.
And it's not only you talked about. It's repped in practice.
It's talked about again in games. And then it comes
down to the execution. Because we could talk about the
coaches to talk about hey man, these games come down
to effort, toughness in execution, and people can play hard.
You can have great physicality and toughness, mental toughness, all

(16:51):
of that, but if you can't execute under pressure the
simple things when the pressure rises, and it's hard to
win consistently. And the hardest thing for a coach to
do is to get players to do the routine things
routinely when the game is on the line, and it
takes a confidence and a poise and composure from the players.

(17:16):
It takes the same qualities from the coaches. But it's
a very, very difficult task to do. And it's one
of those things that if the players can buy and
if they can never master those tip tricks or tactics
that you have to have to kind of perform well
under pressure, then you can win. But if you can't, man,
it's the inconsistent performances in those high pressure, high leverage

(17:38):
moments that's what causes you to falter.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
And I saw had yesterday with your school in North
Carolina against Wake Forest. I have my one eye on
wake Forest and one eye on North Carolina. I watched
that be guys, Bill Belichicks my guy, I love them,
and that had them. I mean, I'm not so certain
that Wake Forest was that much better than North Carolina,
but just stupid mistake, silly mistakes, mistackles just can't understand
and their quarterback. You know, I'm thinking this maybe on

(18:05):
way off base, I think that most football players, at
least receivers, they're so used to catching up ball off
a right handed quarterback instead of Geo who's a lefty.
And does that make a difference. I think it does.
I think then I used to maybe I'm crazy. I'm
looking for any excuse I can to see why North
Carolina can't win.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
I'll say simply that Way Forest played better than them yesterday.
I mean from the first drive they got a sorry
unfortunate best where they picked up a fumble, They picked
up a fumble and scored that put them up seven
to zero, and then the mistackles and all those things
sometimes that happen in space. But you're right, the quarterback

(18:46):
hasn't played up to the expectation. Ge Lopez was a
transfer coming in from South Alabama and he hasn't been
where they thought that he would be in terms of
the axeed, this is making the playmaking that hasn't been. Now,
being a left handed quarterback, it matters a little bit,
but you work those things out over the course of
the summer and in training camp you get used to
the ball spinning in a different way. I don't think

(19:07):
it is that. I think if anything, has just been
a decision making and a lack of accuracy and consistency
from a guy that they expected to be a high
level quarterback.

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before we get to ask Bucky in about ten minutes
from now. Number One, your good friend Deon Sanders, University
of Colorado football coach at three and seven. They were
up this week. However, there's going to be an athletic

(21:25):
direat to shake up a Colorado and every time there's
an athletic threat to change into college, you got a
question about the coach's job security. New leadership comes in
and obviously the former athletic director is one who hired
Dion Sanders. What have you heard? What do you think?
I think he's in pretty good shape, although the record's
not good. The fact that he brought in a lot
of money to sell out football games through on TV

(21:47):
almost every week, a lot of merch has been sold.
What do you think about Dion's future.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Ultimately, you're right.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Whenever you have a new AD, they typically want to
have their own guy in place. And so next year,
going into the season, coach Prime has to know that
this team has performed better than they did this year
to not put himself in a situation where he could
have that difficult conversation with a new AD. You're right
also about the amount of notoriety, the amount of money.

(22:19):
The I would just say the attention that he's brought
to Colorado has all been positive. If you look around
the board, they'll tell you about their omissions, applications going.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Up, all that other stuff going up.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
If you actually look at their record pre Dion and
post Dion, his record is well beyond what Colorado had
experienced before. But anytime you have a change in leadership,
it kind of makes everything subject to change, and so
he has to understand that going into it, and his
team has performed better next season.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I will save anything. The saving grace for just about
every college coach right now is to buy out. I
mean they're gonna have to pay him something I think
like thirty four million dollars to buy out of there.
So you know, I'm sure Colorado has the money, but
you know, you know, running that check, it's just a
tough call to do that, the buyout. And then let
me ask you this, how did that get started? You know,

(23:11):
now I'm curious about buyouts. How did that come to pass?
And how did the athletic director's a college presidence permit
something like that to happen? With the buyout situation.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Well, I mean I think you should, like, like, you
have to protect the interests of your client when you
sign a contract. Otherwise, what's the point of signing the
contract if both parties aren't equally invested in the deal,
and if you make it one side of where the
school says, oh, we'll pay you eleven million, then at
their own requests at any time they're like, yeah, we
don't want to pay that anymore, and you're left holding

(23:44):
a bag.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's not a contract, that's not a commitment.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
So agents put that buyout in to protect their client,
to protect their coaches, and also to make it where
if a player leads, because remember eighties are mad that
coaches were leaving to go get other jobs, that they're
able to recoup some of the money when they depart.
So it was something that was supposed to be mutually beneficial.

(24:09):
But right now we hear a bunch of moaning and
complaining from the schools about having to pay a buyout
when they're also protected by the ballot as well.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, yeah, but here's the thing that I am confused
about with this buyout. Say a coach gets hired for
four years for one hundred thousand dollars just for argument's sake,
So he's getting twenty five thousand dollars a year, and
he gets fired after his second year. So the contract says, well,
we owe you fifty thousand because you're getting twenty five
thousand a year. That's not a buyout, that's a contract.

(24:39):
You got to fulfill the contract. You get rid of
the guy, he had two years left of the contract,
you're give him fifty grand. Now, like with Brian Kelly,
now he's suing. I guess LSU he's given once fifty
four million dollars. How does that money come up? I
don't get that. Where did that money come for this?
By the contract?

Speaker 6 (24:55):
They were, yeah, that's what that was the final part
of the contract. And you're right, and so what has
happened we on our side, the media side, has made
it where we talk about the buyout like it said
different thing, when in essence, it's the contract you sign
under that that's how much money is remaining on the deal.
You owe him the money because that's what you agree to.
So it shouldn't even be a thing that is a

(25:15):
controversy because you agree to original contract which means you're
going to pay me x amount of dollars over x
amount of years. If you terminate me and I don't
work for the remaining part of the years, you still
owe me the money that we agree to.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's what it is.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
What LSU has attempted to do is they tried to
weasel their way out. They tried to negotiate a lesser
sum when he left, and then when they couldn't get that,
they tried to fire him for costs, meaning that there's
a reason why they were firing him that maybe violates
a more clause so they don't have to pay him
all of the money. When you sign the contract, you

(25:51):
just have to know that you need to pay the money.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
They need to pay the money.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, speaking of coaches, wron't getting fired anytime soon? Is
Mike Rabel and New England nine to two third staying
out against the Jets. They've now won eight straight games.
This guy, I don't know why he didn't win. Well,
I guess he did win to some Extenton, Tennessee. But
you know, he's got something. He's a little bit like
Dan Campbell in my mind. Maybe I'm way off based
on that. I just think he's that kind of a guy, hardheaded, tough,

(26:16):
commands the respect of the team, and he's just a
good guy and just does all his homework. And these
guys will go through a brick wall and where or
go through a fire of gasoline for this guy. Maybe
I'm wrong, but they were four and thirteen last year,
the Patriots, and when they don't judge Errod Mayo as
the coach, and now they're nine and two. This guy's
got to be the coach of the year. And I
can't believe the turnaround. But I guess Drake may has

(26:38):
a lot to do with that too, some of that.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
But like, first, I want to give Mike Rabels flowers
because he's a great coach. And if you go back
and you look at the Patriots' own social media team
is documented. The first thing he did the first couple
months on the job is not only established to go to,
but he really worked on the connectivity with the players.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
So often we think.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
That this is a transactional experience. Hey, we paid this player,
he's going to come in and play well for us.
But at the end of the day, some of those.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Same ideas that we talk about in the Little League.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
And Pop Warner, they still exist. You got to be
a great team, and the only way to be a
great team is you have to be connected, and you
have to have chemistry. And that chemistry exists from player
to player, coach to player, and coach to coach, and
Vrabel spent a lot of time working on that chemistry
amongst themselves, intentionally focusing on building relationships with his players.

(27:30):
So now when it comes time to coach them and
coach them hard, they know that you're doing it out
of place of love and not just out of a
place of criticism.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's what he did.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Now, the coaching staff has done a great job of
building schemes and tactics for the players. They got a
bunch of new players, a bunch of veterans that came
over and helped Drake May is going to another level
because he's a diligent worker. And Josh McDaniels has really
put together scheme that is I would say, showcase his talents.
But that's everything, man, It's that whole environment that they've

(27:58):
created up in New England that has them playing well
and really has them looking like the number one team
in football.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. I said one thing about Mike Rabel. He coached
the Tennessee Titans for six years. He took them to
the playoffs three times. But here's the caveat to that.
He took them to the playoffs three times without a
franchise quarterback. I would say Drake May right now, and
I don't think I'm speaking out of school. Drake May
is going to be a franchise quarterback. I do believe
he's going to be a franchise quarterback. Okay. Now, I
want to get back to what Brie, our executive producer,

(28:29):
kind of lives for, and I'm talking about the New
Orleans Saints. You love the Saints. I know you do.
I don't know why, but you're a Saints fan. Okay,
but they're on pace to one of the worst seasons
since the turn of the century. Really, they're two and eight.
They're tied with the New York Football Giants for the
lowest swinning percentage in the NFC, and they're going to
miss the playoffs right now for a fifth consecutive season. Okay, Now,

(28:50):
all of a sudden, the fans are going crazy, all right,
and I think rightfully. So, you know, fans pay and
they have every right to complain. Media does it. Why
can't the fans do it? So? Their owner, Gaile Benson
says that their general manager, Mickey Loomis is in good shape.
You know. Gail Benson tells The New Orleans Times, picking

(29:11):
a newspaper, that the idea of firing Mickey Loomis is
out of the question. It's ridiculous. I don't get it.
And she said it may not be what the fans
want to hear, but as far as firing Mickey Loomis,
that's ridiculous, says Gail Benson. He does a great job.
I don't understand why ownership would even have to respond
to that. Every fan has every right in the world

(29:33):
to complain. Look, they buy tickets, and when teams lose,
what do they do. They either go to games or
bags over their heads or they don't go to the
games at all. Now, all of a sudden, there's going
to be a riff between management, ownership and what the
fans do. This team is terrible, Bri I hate to
do that to you, but the team stinks. The New
Orleans Saints are terrible. There's no doubt in my mind.
They're just not a good team. Not playing today. Maybe

(29:56):
that's a good thing to people and that that whole
city right now. The basketball teams just fired their coach
to Pelicans, and the Saints are just as bad. It's bad.
It's a bad situation. So I asked Bucky Brooks, you know,
you've been on some teams that maybe weren't up to snuff.
Fans go crazy. They have every right to do. So
why are the New Orleans Saints and their ownership kind

(30:16):
of put pushing back on the fans and the fans
doing what they're gonna do. They're eventually gonna fire Mickey Loomis.
So the fans got it right, they do.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
I don't know if they are going to eventually fire
Mickey Loomis. He's in charge of both teams, the Pelicans
and the Saints. He does a lot behind the scenes,
and I know we always talk about general managers, the
team building part of it, the player personnel, acquisitions and.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Trades and all that.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
But there's a lot that is on his plate, and
the best teams have continuity. They don't make decisions hastily.
They don't make emotional decisions when it comes to terminating
people or moving around management pieces. So I applaud her
for saying, hey, they have all the confidence in the
world in them because they have had a level of
success with him.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
It's not great.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
The product on the field isn't great, and he has
to be responsible for that, him and the coaches and that.
But you have to give this new coaching staff and
these new people time to see if they can fix it.
So I understand why she's so adamant and saying, hey,
he's not going anywhere now. He has to make her
right by finding a way to make sure that they
show significant growth and turn around next season.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Last time they did something good was back in twenty
seventeen when they drafted Trey Hendrickson and Alvin Kamara. That's basically,
and I get it. They don't have a quarterback. You
gotta get a quarterback. You don't have a franchise school.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
You don't have a quarterback. If you don't have a quarterback,
you don't have a chance. You don't have a quarterback,
you don't have a chance. That's just a nature of elitue.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
No shock, We're gonna tell it, Brit. I'm sorry to
say that, but it's true. They're terrible.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, this is a really rough segment to go through.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Okay, So I'm gonna move on now because there's another
team that's two and eight and it's the New York
Football Giants. They're also two and eight and they fired
their coach this week, Brian Dable. Okay, now the Giants
host of package today and Jameis Winston is going to start.
Tell me that what I'm scratching my head? Why is
Jamis Winston starting? What happened to Jackson Dart who was
doing so well? And what about Russell Wilson? What is

(32:07):
going on with the Giants? You know, as far as
coaching is concerned, they haven't not a winner. They better
pick a coach now because they have not a winning coach?
Is Tom Coughlin? Why is that? And why is Jameis
Winston starting today for the Giants? I don't get it?
Against Green Bay no.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Less well, when you cycled through so many different coaches,
that tells you that it's a bigger level of dysfunction
amongst your organization. It's not just coach to players. There's
something else that is going wrong, whether that's the management team,
whether it's.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
The overall culture in the building. Something is wrong with
the New York Giants.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Because you keep changing the people at the top and
nothing changes on the field. Brian dave All had a
great run early and then it fizzled. The longer he's there,
the worst he got. And we can say the same
for the other coaches that preceded on Ben McAdoo, Joe Judge,
others like it. It just hasn't hasn't been a good
look for the Giants, So they have to look at
the entire operation. When they make the change at the

(33:00):
end of the season, and Joe Shane's going to be
there as a general manager, they'll bring in a new coach.
But whoever the new coach is, he has to right
the wrongs of the entire organization, and that means that
it probably needs to be someone who's already been a
head coach before they've done this thing where they've tried
these new hot coordinators. They've tried everybody from the offensive
side of the ball, because that's what everyone says that

(33:22):
you have to have. It's about the quarterback and the
play call or whatever, but it's not. Head coach needs
to be the head coach of the team and the
organization has to be the visionary to set the standard
for what the team is going to do each and
every day. So I look for someone that is experienced.
I may not be a sexy name, but it might
be somebody like a Mike McCarthy who has been a

(33:42):
head coach multiple times, had a level of success multiple spots.
Someone who knows the job and can focus on the
job and knows what everything around the job should look like.
That's how they have tired, because that's the only way
to confess it. We've been in the same situation three years.
You'll be telling me who are they fired? Who's going
to be the next head coach for the New York guys,
it's the same deal and the terms of Jamis Winston starting.

(34:03):
No one in the building believes in Russell Wilson evidently,
so now they won hand the ball to Jameis Winston.
They don't believe that Russell can't play anymore, that his
player has fallen off to the point where he doesn't
give them a chance as a short term starter. That's
why they giving it to Jameis Winston, because the one
thing we know that James is gonna do. He may
throw them in the game, but he also may throw
them out the game, but he is going to go
down as a gunslinger.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I want to do this very quickly if I can.
I got the last seven coaches of the New York
Football Giants. Brian Daviel just got fired as regular as
twenty forty and one, then be going down the list.
Joe Judge ten and twenty three, Pat Schumer nine to
twenty three, Steve Spagnola won in three, Ben mcadu thirteen
and fifteen, Tom Coflin one, O two and ninety with
two Super Bowl wins, and Jim Fossel fifty eight and

(34:47):
fifty three. How do you like that? Get it right, Giants?
Get it right. He's Bucky Brooks. He always gets it right.
On Andy Firman, we are Fox Football Sunday in Foxborts
Radio time for answers. Why it's Bucky, It's next? Oh,
It's that time. It's time for ass Bucky. Right now,
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This is Fox Football something on Fox Bus Radio. E's
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(35:09):
Fox Plus radio studios and breathe Do you have anything
for Bucky? For ass Bucky.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Let's see, I do have one question, Bucky. All right,
let's go Okay, well, I actually have a few questions.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Okay, how is Jacksonville's offense going to adjust without Travis Hunter?
And how much does Jacoby Myers play a role because
they're hosting the Chargers today.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Yeah, big game, big bounce back game for the jack
Wars on the horizon. The way that the plan was
originally laid out is Travis Hunter was gonna be the
number one. When he got hurt, it kind of forced
him to do a reshuffle of the wide receiver corps.
Brian Thomas Junior is still gonna play a significant role.
He'll get a ton of targets, but most of the

(35:50):
things that you'll see from him probably be vertical down
the field. In those things, Parker Washington stepped up in
Travis Hunter's role previously, he'll operate in and out of
the slide, do some of the middlefield. Jacoby Minds is
a guy that if I was in fantasy, I'll account
on him getting a lot of touches because he is
someone that is dependable and reliable when it comes to
catching the ball. Because he's such a dependable and reliable

(36:12):
pass catcher for the Jaguars, who lead the National Football
League and drops, he should go to the top of
the charts. And they're gonna do this by committee. They're
gonna be able to kind of spread it around and
do those things where you ride the hot hand. But
I would think Myers in Washington will get a bunch
of targets, and then BTJ, we'll get a bunch of
targets down the field for those big play opportunities.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
And then my next one was do you think the Packers'
offensive struggles are something they can get over as we
get closer to the postseason.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
You know, they're such a weird team because this is
a team that many of us we expected them to dominate,
be a Super Bowl contender, and they can be with
their defense. Officially, it's just been a disappointment. They just
haven't been able to consistently get what they need from
Jordan Love or the rest of the offense. And I
know injuries are beginning to set in where you're losing.
I can't for these people, Jayden Reid, you lostuck A Craft,

(37:02):
you lose Elpson, Jenkins and those things. But they're still
good enough where they should be better. This is something
with Matt lafoy is gonna have to get in the
lab and find a way to get this quarterback unlocked.
Because if you can unlock Love, he'll unlock all of
the offense. So it's about the quarterback and the head
coach getting on the same page.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
I also thought Matthew Golden was Sorry Andy, but Matthew
Golden was going to be more of like a prominent
feature and I just haven't seen that this season.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Look, he hasn't been.
He hasn't been what we thought they did. They finally
listened to the fans and draft the first round receiver
and he's done nothing, nothing of significance for them. I mean,
maybe they should stick to their own guts and not
let the fans pick the players for him and.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Let me ended at dandem to that question for you,
Brit big Gust. The Packers are playing the Giants at
the Giants Todayosh Jacobs will go crazy today against that defense.
Against the Giants. You'll see he'll he'll run for two
hundred plus. Yes, today that I promise. Do you agree
with me on that booksh Jacobs big Gabe today? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Maybe maybe. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
The days gonna play with a little different, different energy
because you got a new coach, So I wouldn't just
kind of pencil the package in to have a laugher
against him. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Josh
Jacobs has to be the focal point when he's running.
It just makes everything easy. I think they will focus
on trying to get them the ball and see if
he can help kind of settle this to stabilize the offense.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Okay, I'm moving to baseball, and I got a baseball question,
and you got to explain this to me, because I
don't know. I'm not the smartest guy in the world,
that's for sure. Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Paul skeins He wins
the Cy Young Award. He had a ten and ten record.
He had thirty two stars. He pitched one hundred and
eighty seven innings, two hunder sixties, strikeout if one ninety seven. However,
Freddy Peralta of the Brewers was seventeen and six. He

(38:43):
started thirty three games, hundred seventy six innings, two hundred
and four k's with a two seventy RA. Why was
Parolta not the cy young winner and Paul Skeens was?
I don't get it. Help me out.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
I think Paul Skeens played with a much uh played
with a team that couldn't give him much support, and
if you watched him, you felt as dominance. He just
didn't get enough support to get the wins. And I
give it to the voters for not necessarily just going
off the box score. They decided to dig deep and
really watch the games and do those things.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's why you want it.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
I mean, if you want to give it to the
best pitcher on the best team, you could have given
it to my guy front of Brewers. But this was
one Schemes deserved it because of how Dominante was. He
just didn't get any support.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Okay, I buy that. No problem about that. Speak of
a baseball right now, how would you handle this betting
ring that's going on in Major League Baseball, because I
think it's put a real bad cloud, a black cloud
over major League Baseball.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
It has and unfortunately, like that's what happens when you're
getting paid with the sports books and the gamblers and
all those things, like some of that is going to happen.
You have some crossover people gonna be aggressive, trying to
get the players and trying to do all that stuff.
Is something that you can talk about, something that you
hope that everyone pays attention to. This unfortunate, it's unfortunate

(39:59):
that we've seen these incidents.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
They're getting in bed with the mob. I'm seeing on
videos like the pitches that were thrown for five thousand bucks,
a pitch that they bounced before home plate. I mean,
I'm thinking, why would a guy do that if he's
getting a contract for fifty mil simply because he's in
bed with the mob, and the mom says, you don't
do that, we're gonna blow your head off. I'm sure
that's what happened. That's what happened there. But anyway, we
move on to play or not to play, that's the question,

(40:23):
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Bu Yeah, I got a question for You're gonna go
back to last Sunday for a second. That game in
Berlin between the Colts and the Falcons. Okay, it was
the fifth time this year in the NFL that the

(41:20):
game went into overtime, and they overtime started with a
lot of confusion, the referee had the Colts player called
the coin to us, although the Falcons were the visiting team,
and when the coin was tossed again, the Falcons won
it and they chose to receive the ball. And it
was the second straight overtime game in which the team
that won the coin tours elected to receive after the

(41:41):
team with the decision the first three overtime games decided
to kick off. And you know, Jacksonville Jaguars beat the
Vegas Raiders on overtime and week number nine, I believe
that was when they received the ball first. What's the
best thing to do? Why do you receive it? When
you win the tors? Do you want to receive? You
want what's the deal when you do the point to us?
And then over time, what's the best thing to.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Do well with the rules, because both teams get a possession.
If you're able to get the ball first and run
down all the clock and score, it puts the second
team in a bad situation because now you're talking about
by three minutes of fewer that you have to drive
the Linds the field and score a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
That's why you want to do it now?

Speaker 6 (42:21):
I mean if you go three and out, it's bad
for you on the thing. But that's why some people
are electing to take it. The people that defer, they
want to know exactly what they have to what they
need to win the game. So do I need a
field goal? Do I need a touchdown? So you would
rather put your defense out there see what the other
team does if they score or not.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Okay, this is how we need to counter that.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
And you know, so it looks it's six on one hand,
half a dozen on the other hand.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
It just the execution is what matters.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
But those are the thoughts behind why people elect to
take it or to kick off.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
John. I remember, from like nineteen seventy four through twenty ten,
I believe it was the NFL had sudden death, in
which the first team to score any points would win
the game. So teams that would win the coin to
us would always, for just about all the time, would
choose to receive the ball to begin the overtime period
because if you score, you win with the sudden death.
I used to like the sudden death, but I guess
it's a lot fairer this way.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
I mean it's a lot fairer this way because like
both teams at least get the ball. That was the
big point of contention in the past. You know, one
team would push the game into overtime they get the kick,
and the other the opponent would never touch it again.
Now that both teams have an opportunity to touch it,
get you get the ball, and what you do with

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it ultimately determins who's to win who's the loser.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay, Now I cannot believe that we are starting week
eleven in the National Football I wish I could put
the brakes on it a little bit because you wait
so long. You're kind of like like a dog looking
for his next meal with the tongue hanging out, and
next thing you know, it's going to be over. But
Rik eleven and tay you The CINCINNTI Bengals at three
and six, believe it or not, still have a life
and they're playing at Pittsburgh. They're five and four. So

(44:03):
many questions in this game, and I'm gonna run one
at a time. First of all, the rumors with Mike Tomlin,
I'm here and now they want Mike tom at the
coach the Giants, Are you kidding? I mean, come on, really,
First of all, he's got another year or two left
on his contract to Pittsburgh. Why would he leave Pittsburgh.
They've been so loyal to him, He's done so well there,
never had a losing season. Why would he go to
the Giants. I don't get it. I mean, really, who

(44:25):
starts these things?

Speaker 6 (44:26):
Well, I mean I think it's like wishful think, and
I think there's some people in Pittsburgh that wish Mike
Tomlin would leave, and so that's a nice way of
being able to do it, like hey, Witch, rading to
the Giants and we get some picks back and we
can start a new Also, there are people that are
looking and recognizing and appreciating what he's done for so
long in terms of the stability or the organization and
saying that's exactly what the New York Giants need. They

(44:47):
need someone who understands the importance of stability, consistency, being
able to do the same thing over time so the
team can get better.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
That is why.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
But look, the contract makes it very very difficult to
move off of him. Us have multiple years left on
his deal. He's always signed these extensions in secret. That
kind of fortify his abuilding and standing amongst the team.
So yes, look it's a conversation. It's nice clickbait, but
there's a little to.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
It, right, And speaking of coaching the Giants, I think
that Bill Belichick's name came up there as well, because
at one point in time he was a defensive coordinator there.
He basically said the other day out of North Carolina
that he's not going there. He staying in North Carolina.
I think reason being obviously it would look it's a
bad move number one, but number two, I think he
wants his son to take over when he leaves North Carolina,
who is not a defensive coordinator down there, to be

(45:36):
the next head coach in North Carolina. I don't think
that's going to happen, but I think that's what he's
dreaming for.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
I mean, we all have dreams, and as for racis
for our kiddos, and so maybe that is the dream.
The main thing. I don't think the Giants were gonna
seriously consider Belichick for the role anyway, but it's nice
to put that statement out because he wanted to make
sure that didn't negatively impact recruit or anything like that.
The Giant situation is just interesting because we talked about

(46:04):
the job. We talked about the kind of candidates that
have been in the job. Routinely, it's been offensive guys,
first time head coaches that they've done everything to try
and build around a quarterback. Maybe they'll take a different approach,
Maybe they'll take the quote unquote leader of men type,
someone that doesn't call the offensive defense.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
But it's more the CEO I should operate, Or.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
It's gonna be someone who has been a head coach before,
who knows exactly what he's doing. He's learned from the
mistakes that he previously had, and he does better in
a second or third Op's.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
First, all right, now, then not? The next question is
surrounding this game today, which I have the Aaron Rodgers situation.
I gotta believe right now he's been somewhat of a disappointment.
I know the team is five and four. He's shown
some some bright spots, but then again, I think with
DK Metcalf over there on the Steelers, he's been somewhat
of a disappointment simply because of Aaron Rodgers. DK Metcalf

(46:58):
has only had three to two reception for some like
five hundred yards This year, and I think part of
the reason being that Aaron Rodgers has not delivered the
ball tam.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, I mean part of it.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
And the reason why Aaron can delivered is because he
wants the ball to come out so quickly. You know,
one of the things with Aaron Rodgers and older quarterbacks
in general, is they.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Don't want to get hit.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
They don't want to get hit in the pocket, so
the ball comes out fast.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well, if the ball's coming.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
Out quickly, that means you can't push the ball down
the field because you're not giving.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
The routes enough time to develop.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
And when you have that, you're taking away the strengths
of DK Metcalf's game because you're taking someone who has
been kind of groomed to be a deep ball specialist,
a big play threat in those things, and now you're
making him a dink and dunk receiver, catching hitches and slants.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
And little things over run. They're not playing to DK's strengths.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
And so when you have a quarterback Aaron Rodgers forty one,
forty two years old, these are some of the things
that you have to sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
And they knew that going in. I think they thought
that it.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
Would work because the defense would be playing better, there
would be in a bunch of low scoring affairs and
Aaron would be able to make a play or two
to put the game away in their favor. And it
just hasn't played out like they thought. That's it. We're
only nine games into it. They're sitting at five and four.
There's still time for them to turn it around. But
the clock is ticking. They got to get going because

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the Baltimore Ravens are coming, and they're coming like a
bread right.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I know there's a lot of questions rounding this game,
and I got thrown one more out there for you.
You talked about the defense. There's been a disappointment. I'll
tell you one of the reasons why. At least the
back part of the defense, of the secondary and the safeties,
they're old. They're name players, but they're old. I think
the age is caught up to them. Do you agree.
I think those players are old?

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's played the part of it.
When you have an old team, father time is undefeated
and they can show up at once, and it's shown
up a little bit with the Stillers.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
The other thing that has hurt them.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
The Stillers thought that they were going to be a
historic defense that could be a shut them down defense.
They would be able to lock up play manda man snuff,
snuff out everything that you want to do, and make
life miserable for it. They have found that they were
giving up too many big plays playing man to man
because a man and man, if you missed the tackle,
it becomes a bigger game because everyone doesn't have their
eyes towards the quarterback and they don't see the ball thrown.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Because they were giving up so many.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
Big plays, they had to change around, change personnel, move
Jayalen Ramsey to free safety, bring Kyle Duggars over from
New England, and get better.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
And so they've been better.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
In recent weeks, and I think what you see them
do is get back to the blueprint, and the blueprint
for them has been to be a zone based, zone
pressure team. So they can bring pressure, but keep eyes
on the quarterback and everything in front, reduce some of
the big plays that are given up and still have
the potential to harass the quarterback and produce the splash
plays that have been a big part of their defensive history.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Okay, we're leading off to the big question of this game. Okay, okay,
we're almost there. The next thing is on the Bengals.
Trey Hendrickson Henderson's hendricks is not playing today and their
first round draft pick, the defensive end, sham Mars Stewart,
is not playing. Why they're injured. And again, believe it
or not, those two guys will holdouts. And we talked
about this before. Normally, when you're a holdout and you

(50:09):
miss training camp, there's a good chance you're going to
get injured during this season, and bingo, these two guys
are there. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think
that you just knew what was going to happen. Trey
Hendrickson right now, held out for more money. He didn't
got to practice, he missed a lot of it. He
got his money, but he's not playing. This is the
third week in the row now he's not going to play.
And defensive en Jamar Stewart held out, so they're not

(50:30):
playing today. He's got a bad knee, Hendrickson's got a
bead neck. Whatever it may be. The bottom line is
they're not playing and that's and believe me, part of
the reason being they weren't in training camp. I still
believe that.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Yeah, I mean that's part of the reason. Yeah, those
guys were in a training camp. But is that their fault.
Is that the team's fault?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Oh no, no, No, he has enough time to sign
Tree Hendrickson.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Trey Henderson has been pining for a deal the last
two or three years and the Bengals wouldn't give him
a deal even though he was more than worthy of
getting a contract whatever revision, and they didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
And oh, there's no doubt. I mean, this is on
the Bengals. He could have been playing if they signed
them earlier, There's no doubt.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
Yeah and yeah, And whenever you have hold out situations
in training camp, ultimately, man, it hurts the player because
they can't get the same kind of preparation away from
the facility that they can with the facility. And those
players have not been available because they have suffered injuries
in those things that we can point it back to
the training or improper training and those things. But I

(51:31):
would just say, like with the Bengals, the Bengals are
frustrating just because they do moves that just make you
scratch your head, right, So they're blaming all of the
defensive les last year on lou Ana Roumo, like the
defensive coordinator could do anything with the slot that they
gave him on that side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And now they swap it out.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
They bring Al Golden, who's a really good defensive coach,
but he's finding the same issues.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Hey man, how are you trying to get me to
make chicken salad out this chicken poop that you've given me.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
You not give me the players.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
At the end of the day, you can be the
greatest X and.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
OS coach, but without players, you're not going to win.
And the Bengals stink on defense because they don't have
enough players to be able to do it, no.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Doubt about that. And now here's the big story of
the day. As I mentioned coming into the segment to
play or not to play, Joe Burrow was a practice
the other day tossing okay, and he's basically hinting that
he could maybe come back by Thanksgiving. And the big
question right now is that the pros and the cons
should he come back? Should he not come back? You know,
they lose today, they're three and six, they're three and

(52:32):
seven after they were lost today. Next week they got
in New England, they'll be three and eight if they lose,
basically out of the picture. And you know, I've been
asked the question. I said, wait a minute. Pros get
paid to play. You're a probe because you have that
desire to play and to win, and Joe Burrow wants
to play, wants to win. I believe if he gets
the clearance for medical people and he wants to play,

(52:52):
he'll play. Not a Bengals organization may not want it
to play because they're afraid to get injured again. But
you know what, injuries are part of the game. That's
just the way it is. I think that we will
see Joe Burrow play regardless of the Bengals record, even
if they're out of contention for the division. Do you agree?

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yes, I think he's gonna try and play, and I
think if they're close enough, he's gonna make a difference.
Because there's no doubt that when Joe Burrow plays, the
Bengals are a different team.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
You want to make sure you take every precaution as
your franchised with the franchise quarterback to ensure that he's
not going to put himself in jeopardy of having something
that has long term consequences and repercussions when it comes
to the injury, So make sure he's fully healthy. But
if he's healthy, oh he's playing because that's just what
we expect from our franchise.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Quarterbacks, you know, And the argument is here right now.
I mean, certainly he makes a difference, There's no doubt
about that. The year he had last year was almost
second to none. Really well, however, the last two weeks
the Bengals put up eighty points and they still lost.
And last year with what he had done, with the
amount of the yards he's thrown for in touchdowns, they
still didn't make the playoffs. So again you mentioned the

(53:56):
term slop, that defense is slopped. Is how frustrating must
have for Joe Burrow to put up those kind of numbers,
for Jamar Chase and Fatim Higgins to have seasons and
Jamar Chase winning this so cold triple crown last year
and not going to the playoffs, you know, just get
to the playoffs and maybe lose after the first or
second round, but not to get to the playoffs with

(54:16):
the numbers that they put up, cut eighty points in
two games and not to win. I mean the Jets
and the Bears they lose to It's embarrassing, it really is.
It is truly embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Oh yeah, I mean, look, it's embarrassing that they're not
able to get it get it done. But you're right, man,
we talked about the same thing. Offensively, they look the board,
defensively terrible, just not getting it done.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
And I'll tell you right now, I think that Joe
Flacco has done a good job. And I think he
was only sacked once or twice last week. So I
don't know if he's getting the ball out a lot
quicker than Joe did, or the offensive line is beginning
to mush to mesh together. I don't know. I mean,
could you tell. I can't tell. I don't know if
they're playing any better. I just know one thing that
Flacco's getting the ball out pretty quickly.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Yeah, he is getting the ball out quickly. That offensive
line is still up and down, but yeah, the ball
is it's certainly come out quickly. They find a way
to get the ball into the main playmakers' hands to
do it, and so that's what you want to do.
Like this game, I won't say it's complex, but it
looks really about the players. And if you can find
a way to get the players going by putting them,

(55:23):
putting the ball in their hands and allowing them to
get busy on the perimeter, more times than not, the
team with the best players are gonna win.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
So that's why I want to get the ball to
my best players all the time.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, and look, for the last several years, we have
to say the AFC North may have been the best
division in football, and now people are kind of bad
mouth against saying it's I still think it's a good division,
and I think it's very competitive. Although teams are having
losing records at Bengals three and six and the Steelers
five and four, the division right now is very competitive.
I still think it's somewhat wide open. Now. Baltimore is

(55:52):
the favorite right now and they've won the last three games,
and I think Baltimore is the team to be perhaps,
but still in all I think it's still wide open.
I think there's a still very competitive division.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Yeah, I mean it's still a very competitive division. This
means it's a great division. Just means that everyone is
competing because they all stink. I mean that's one way
to look at it. Like it's not that doesn't mean
that you're gonna get a Super Bowl winner out of
that division and stuff like that. I just think it's
a situation where you're hoping that one of these teams
gets hot at the end. Right now, the team that

(56:26):
looks like it's going to be the hottest team down
the stretch is gonna be the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, but yeah,
Lamar Jackson's back, the team's kind of fixed some of
the defensive roles in those things. So if I'm a
bet on the team, I'm bet on the Ravens. There
still is going to be there because it still has
always found a way to be there. I just don't
know if they got enough pop on the offense to
be able to win and win a meaningful game in

(56:47):
the postseason, which is what everyone's going to judge Mike
Tomlin because they haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I just don't know if they got enough. I don't
know if they have enough.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You're exactly right by the way we're broadcasting life for
the Fox West radio studios. I think right now it's
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That's our phone number. We're gonna have the blame game
at the end of this hour. And of course we
talked about the changing of the guard in the NFL,
but social media is not so social for one quarterback.
That's next, all right, his sentence is finally over. We'll
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I wanted to touch on this because you do such
a great job on this and it'll be foolish on
me to pass it by. I'm talking about what you
right every week be at NFL dot com, well, foxsports
dot com. This week NFL dot com, we we're about

(59:03):
the changing of the NFL guard. I want to talk
about that we talk about your rookie year on the
Marv Levy in Buffalo in nineteen ninety four. I want
to hear a little bit more, Cauld you expand about that,
because I read that I kind of got all excited
with Marv Levy. I thought was a true gentleman. What
was that like playing for marvlev back in ninety four.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Uh, Look, he's a great coach, obviously, Hall of Fame coach.
He was a different coach unlike anyone that I had experienced. Obviously,
very intelligent, very well read, would bring different kinds of
things into the meeting room to have discussions with the team.
But he was well respected by the team and he
got them going. And I would say that he was
on the front end on a lot of the innovation

(59:41):
that we see today in terms of like not only
no huddle up tempo offenses, but the practices and the
way that they would take the pads off and practices
were short and quick and in fishing because you had
a veteran team that knew how to go and play
at the highest level because they go on the four
straight Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
So for me, I.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Just take away that you could be a coach in
your own style, as long as you're genuine, and he
was authentic and the guys loved him because of that.
So the authenticity is what I remember about Marv Levy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Could he be the exact opposite of Dan Campbell? I
would say that mar Lebe probably never cussed.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
No, I mean that wasn't really his word choice. He
didn't use that kind of vernacular with the team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Amazing, I mean, what a gentleman. I think he's still
alive and well, I mean is he pushing one hundred?
Isn't he?

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Yes? He is high nineties, ninety one, ninety two.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, he's definitely up there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
But smart, smartest, smartest whip, still has an understanding of
how to get it, how to get it done, still talk,
still does all those things. One of the smartest people
that I've ever been around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
That's great, all right now. And they also wrote about
the four new teams on top of their divisions. I
just want to touch on that for a second. So
the AFC East he got the Patriots, and they AFC
South he got the Colts all right. Obviously two quarterbacks
that have never been there before in Drake May and
Daniel Jones. And you say, why should these two teams
with the division. I'm gonna come back and say, maybe

(01:01:10):
pick the Devil's Advocate, Well, they shouldn't. I'm thinking I'm
waiting for like Daniel Jones to implode. Is that possible?
I mean, I mean, right now, what are they? Eight
and two of the colts? I'm thinking like, is it
a dream? Are they for real or is it just
fools gold?

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
No, I think they're for real.

Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
And I think they're for real because they're really complete, right,
They're complete in terms of when you look at their roster,
they don't have a glaring weakness.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
The only issue that you have with.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
Him is Daniel Jones, in which Daniel Jones is going
to show up in crunch time. And the reason why
you were about Daniel Jones is because in the playoffs
it really comes down to quarterback play, and in the
AFC that could be loaded with the likes of Josh Allen,
Pat Mahomes, justin Herbert Joe Burr, if they get in
Lamar Jackson, like just all of those things. Can Daniel

(01:01:54):
Jones win a shootout against those kinds of players. And
he's played well up until this point, but we're beginning
to see the turnovers kind of pop back up, and
you wonder if they take away his crutches, can he
stand alone? Can he stand alone and kind of make
it happen when they take away Jonathan tailoring to run
a game and they dare the coach to beat them passing.
Is Daniel Jones good enough to get it done? That's

(01:02:16):
the question that's to me and our question. That's the
one thing that could hold the Coast back from realizing
their Super Bowl dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
All right, now, you also touched on something that was
called trend watch the rise of thirteen personnel. Okay, and
you got a big game today. You kind of zeroed
in on the Seahawks Rams game the late game today.
Both teams are seven and two. Explain to me hottest trends?
What are these hot trends? I don't know, I'm stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
So thirteen personnel and the way that you NFL teams
label personnel is one back, three tight ends in the game.
So thirteen, the three tight end package has been the
one that you've seen from the Rams use increasingly this
season with a look a high level of success. The
last three games they've used thirteen personnel almost forty percent

(01:03:04):
over forty percent on most of those games, and it's
going thirty seven points per a game over those last
three games. And the reason why is because it puts
the defensive coordinator in such a dilemma.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Okay, they got three tight ends on the field.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
Do I trot my bigs out there, meaning my extra
d linemen and linebackers to do it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Okay? If I do that, then what that does?

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
It makes me susceptible to if they break the formation
and they have one of those tight ends that's really
like a wide receiver and they go spread or empty
in those things. Do we have the personnel that can
match up if we stay with our regular personnel? Are
you big enough to deal with the physicality and toughness
with the running game you throw in the play action
and picks and rubs and all those things. You got

(01:03:42):
a lot of thinking going on on the defense of
the ball while.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
It's still simple and easy for the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
Sean McVay has been masterful of trying it out there.
They've done a great job of just kind of keeping
people guessing in terms of what they want to do,
and that thirteen personnel package has been a big part
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Now and then talk about Matthew Staffords the MVP a
game this year. I mean, really and truly, I mean
there's others out there. I mean, I don't think Jonathan
Taylor is going to get it soon because he's not
a quarterback. He probably deserves it, but Matthew Stafford is
the guy they're looking right now. And I'm hearing a
lot of buzz about Matthew Stafford is MVP.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
Yeah, and rightfully so there's a lot of buzz over
that in terms of, like, you know, like Matthew Stafford
making the play, He's doing all the things that you
want to see a franchise quarterback too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
And when you have someone who look is so prolific
in terms of fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Comebacks, game winning drives, someone who's so talented. We've always
recognized the talent since he's number one overall pick, but
now it's the toughness and it's the ability to get
it done under pressure to no look past is the Puka,
the coop and Devonte Adams, the way that he's able
to kind of check the game down or control the
game from the pocket. There's a lot to love about
what Matthew Stafford has done this year, and if you

(01:04:54):
get the sentimental pick, the sentimental vote when it comes
down to him or Drake May, Matthew Stafford's gonna win
that because it's the one thing that he doesn't have
on his mount.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He doesn't have an MVP Award.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Okay, now, last year, there's a little bit of an
advantage I think in this game today. Was last year
the Rams beat Sam Donald twice when Sam Donald was
playing for Minnesota. Okay, now he's with the Seahawks. But
last week Sam Donald had a rough week, had three
turnovers and it only had twelve attempts in that game
last week. So I think right now the Rams probably
are the better team. I think that the Seahawks got

(01:05:26):
what the key for them. They got a pressure of
Matthew Stafford. Can they do it? I don't know. I
think they have the defense to win, but I don't
think they're gonna pressure Matthew Stafford today. I think the
Rams win this game. The game is in. It's a
Rams home game, so I think the Rams have somewhat
of the advantage. I think the Rams are a better team,
that's all I'm saying. And Sam Donald, I still think
that you don't know what you get from week to

(01:05:46):
week with that guy, You really don't.

Speaker 6 (01:05:48):
Yeah, Sam Donald's played great. I mean you're gonna have
some of those down moments. You're gonna have some turnover moments.
And we just saw recently from Daniel Jones. He turned
it over the last couple of times, last couple of
games that we've seen. And sometimes you go through like
a bit of a I won't even call them the slump.
You just have some games where you have a couple
of hiccups and can you write the wrongs? I think
for Sam Donald, he has done that. The offense is terrific.

(01:06:08):
When it comes to the explosiveness, they haven't even really
unlocked the running game portion of it. But if they
get the running game going, but the explosive pass game
that they displayed, a few teams are gonna be able
to stack up and beat them. Sam Donald has continued
to play under control because what's going to happen is
all those memories from last year where you fall to
the season finale and then the playoff debut. That stuff

(01:06:32):
is gonna come back and he's gonna have to manage
it because it's gonna be a hot topic of conversation
as the Coos get closer to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Huh. Okay, Now I mentioned that social media is not
so social for one quarterback. That was a tease coming
into this segment. And social media has advantages versus disadvantages
for an athlete. Okay, And I'm thinking about this for
a second. For the NBA star Kevin Durant, it's a
nightmare every time somebody writes something about him in social media.
He gets involved into the arguments on social media. You

(01:07:01):
got to ignore it. It's part of the deal. You
get paid to play and people some of them are
going to love you, some of them are not, and
some are going to critique you, and some of them
do it just to get a rise out of you.
And seems to me that Kevin Durant is one of
the few athletes that really gets involved. And I don't
think you should. But Falcons quarterback Michael Pennix Jr. For him,
had bockfired the other day. He wrote about his fiance

(01:07:24):
and his former coaches and he said these are people
he has support. So all of a sudden, now it
was construed that he meant that no one on the
Falcons has support for him. Either coaches or roster players
and his teammates. I mean, really, what is going on
with social media? I look, I know it's a great
method for communication. I think it's great for athletes because

(01:07:48):
they could eliminate the media person and go directly to
the public. For example, if I'm at the vwing Bucky Brooks,
and I'm working for a newspaper, and I go to
the locker room and talk to you, and you say
some thing and I misquote you. It gets into the
press and you say a way to say no, no, I
don't mean that. But now with the social media, you
could write it whatever you want to say and send

(01:08:09):
it right out without the middleman meeting the media person.
So there's an advantage there, But why are people taking
it and construing through it to another meeting and all
of a sudden the coaching staff for the Falcons had
to come out and defend Michael Pennox Junior.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
It's crazy because yeah, I mean, just because of what
we do on this end. So it's funny because I
love hearing you talk about how players should ignore it
or whatever. But why should they, like, why should they
be quiet when people are talking about them? Why should
they sit because you can't wait for offering up opinions.
But does it really matter about winning? Like, does it

(01:08:44):
matter about winning? Because it's in the court of public opinion.
I am in the camp of Kevin Durant that if
people are saying things and talking sideways, I'm going to
go right back at them because there's so many voices
and so many opinions. And as you said, the negative
part of social media is we've given a lot of
weight and currency to people who have no idea what
they're talking about as it relates to sports and games

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and those things. And it doesn't mean they shouldn't have
an opinion, but it also doesn't mean that I should
let that opinion just live in the echo chamber. So
I applied Kevin Durant for going back and forth because
if you have and I've experienced, like if guys like
way in, they're real thin skin when you fire back
at them, you know, and everyone gives them cover by saying, oh,

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you need to be above it. But why they're not
above it, Like they're not a brother reproach, they're not
above like being challenged back on their opinions that are
meritists or not fact based, so I understand that. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
The thing with Michael Pennox and that stuff, we're.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
Always digging and we're at a time where people love controversy,
and so if he puts that stuff out there where
he's like really praising his childhood mentors and heroes and coaches,
and people take it some kind of way, that's kind
of silly, But that's what we do. Everything is about
trying to get a click, to get a response in
doing that. And people took his words and did it.

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They tried to clear it up, but it certainly become
a bigger thing than it needed to become.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
But that's not how Michael Pennix. Michael Pennick's quote was
well intentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Sure was in beautiful. He still has fiance and his
high school coaches and college coaches, and they really stoock
up for him. And it was taking the wrong way
saying that, well, I guess the Falcons coaches and my teammates,
his teammates don't stick up and don't support them. That's
the stupidest thing I ever heard of, and then took
people around with it. His head coach had to go
up there and defend him. It was nuts. It's crazy.

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And I don't think Michael Pennix did that for clicks.
I think he just one day he had some free time.
I guess he says, you know what, I really want
to talk about my fiance and you know, these people
are really close to me and to support me. Nothing
wrong with that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
No, not at all. And it's unfortunate became a much
bigger issue than it needed to. But that's just kind
of where we're at right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
It's sad. It really is sad. I mean, and look,
I think that any who is a somewhat of a
public figure big it a get I'm sure you've gotten
some stuff criticized, right, you write for NFL dot com
and you know whatever at my foxs dot com. Right,
I get it. I get it. I'm an idiot. I
hear it all the time, and every once in a

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while I'll write back, I'll answer it, you know, and
most of the time you don't get another response. But
then then it gets real. Luckily, then they start using
curse words. You know what I mean. You know, that's
that's the answer, right, you know, if you can't defend yourself,
you know intelligently, you know, go down and do the
lowest common thing you could do and start cursing on that.
I get it all the time, you know, but ninety

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nine percent of the time I just ignore it. But
every once in a while, I'm in a kind of
a mood, feisty mood.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Yeah, I want to do so you feel like Kevin Durant.
So you feel like Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
That's what Kevin Durant feels like on a daily basis.
That's all. Give it back to him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Oh boy. Oh So the Falcons today are three and
six like the Bengals, and they host the Carolina Panthers
there five and five rise really and the falconsy the
NFL and allowing just one hundred and fifty eight passing
yards a game. We'll see what happens there. I think
the Falcons, I mean, honestly, it surprised me last week.
I just think they're gonna win today. I just think
they got something in them. I mean, I don't know
what it is, but they got to kick it into gear.

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That's what they're gonna do. I think the Falcons win
that game today. However, here's a big story Justin Tucker's back.
Remember Justin Tucker. He was I think he was on
his way to Canton, Ohio. Is perhaps maybe the best
kicker in the NFL and had a ten game suspension
in June for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy. He
can return this week. The question I have return where now?

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Obviously he was accused of inappropriate behavior, including sexual misconduct,
by several massage therapists in the Baltimore area. Here's a
warning to the NFL players. Stay away from the massage therapists.
It's not healthy, it's not good for you. Really getting
in trouble. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
I wouldn't say I wouldn't Assai stay away. I would say, like,
just make sure you don't cross those lines. Because massage
therapy is a big part of the recovery process and
people are using it for good. It's just that we
had a couple of isolated incidents where it's going beyond
what it should and it's been inappropriate in those things,

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and so I just think everyone has to understand what
you're getting into when you do it, and players need
to be careful that massage therapists also have to be careful.
They have to be a level of professionalism exhibit by
both parties.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I'll tell you what I would do if I had
to go to a massage therapist. I'm going with a buddy.
I'm going with a teammate, or I'm going with an
executive an administrator from the team, so there's somewhat of a
guy who could defend me. I'm not going alone, really,
I mean, that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, you
go alone, it's your word against the massage therapist. This way,
I'm going with my buddy and make you see exactly

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what's going on, so they're not can be any claims
against me. How's that good idea?

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
I mean, if you want to bring your buddy along,
I mean, that's anyway, it's still gonna guarantee.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
It's still gonna guarantee everything. But I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
I do think you have to protect yourself as much
as far as possible when it comes to professionalism. But
that's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
You're with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are the coaches. Do the
coaching staff say anything about massage therapist or what to do?
I mean, they say a mecareful of them, no warning whatsoever.
They don't say a word.

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
I mean, I mean, I think you talk to your
players about being a professional in everything that you do right,
treating people with respect, treating people the way that you
want to be treated in those things, and you hope
that it carries over that you don't have to have
those conversations. I would say that, like some people have
mentioned that, it may not come in front of a
team meeting, but they'll talk about respect disrespect those that
are around you, everyone that is here in the program helping.

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We want to make sure that we're very respectful in
our interactions with them. And you hope that that means
that everything is appropriate, above board and we don't violate
those things.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Sounds great, Okay, one quick question? Is going to be
in the Hall of Fame? Justin Tucker?

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
I think after this I won't say dies down, but
I think to be a part of his legacy be
I think it'll be done.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Here we go, all right, Bucky Brooks, Andy Ferman, Fox
Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. Finger point the time,
Why the blame game is freaking next? Turn that music off.
It's time for the playing game. I love it. Little
Stevie won that right there. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy
Furman This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio
Top of the Hour. We got Mike Harmer and Gret Coselle.
That will be eight am on the East Coast and

(01:15:23):
we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Are
we ready? Are we ready for the playing game? Let's
do it. It's all your fault, it's your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
This is all your fault. Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar.
That's why there's the blame.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Game, the blame game. Let's figure out who to play.
I love the playing game because I like the point
fingers at people pray. Are you ready for the blame game?
Are you ready?

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Ready, let's do it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
Do it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin avoided talking about the future
of Aaron Rodgers after that Sunday night, horrible, horrible game
against the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Bucky.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Look, man, I think they had to know what they
were dealing with with Aaron Rodgers, and so I can't
blame Mike tom and them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
They signed up for that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:12):
They wanted the leadership, a building, and all that other stuff,
but they had to know the deficiency is there. I
blame Aaron Rodgers like he is what he is right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
He's not gonna get any better and they have to
live with them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
And you know, I tell how I blame. I'm gonna
blame Mike Thomas smart enough not to make a comment
because I don't think Mike Tomlin initially wanted Aaron Rodgers.
I think it was the Rooneys. I think the Rooney
family signed Aaron Rodgers and they bumped him on Mike Tomlin.
Maybe I'm wrong. What do you think about that? Fuck?
I mean, I just don't think it was decision.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
I think he was, he was in on it. I
think they like he just kind of knew what it's
gonna be.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
And I think they were hoping that they could play
a certain style defensively that would help them on offense.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
But they just have been able to get that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
He doesn't usually comment about a lot of things, but
I'll tell you what I was really surprised early this year, well,
Mike Toman commented about the Browns trading Joe Flacco to
in the division to the Bengals. That was a big
comment on the part of Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
I mean, yeah, that's not a normal m but yeah,
it's certainly been a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
All right, right, spree, Oh thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
The Vikings had eight fallse start penalties last week, Andy,
who do you blame?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
You know what? It's easy to blame the coaches. Sometimes
it happens, you know what. And I think a lot
of times that happens. Maybe Bucky, I'm wrong on this.
The crowd noise affects you. I mean, you just can't hear,
and that's why they jumping off sides all the time.
Maybe I'm wrong. He don't blame the coaches, don't even
blame the player. Sometimes the crowd has a factor that
you can't even hear. I've seen it. It happens, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Mean, like sometimes the crowd, the crowd is a factor.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
But you want to be above that. I mean, sometimes
you got to just be able to lock in and focus.
The preach that penalty from me are all about concentration
and focus, and you just got to be on the details.
And sometimes you just have a lap of concentration that
is unexplainable.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
But you have to be a buffet.

Speaker 6 (01:18:01):
You got to be better at huh.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Okay, So the MLB is in the midst of a
betting scandal. With two of those pitchers from the Guardians.
Who do you blame, Bucky?

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
I mean, look, man, when the leagu's got bid with
the sportsbooks and the gamblers, like this was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Because now what.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
You've done is you put all these people in the
same kind of pot so players and they all get
in contact. About all these people, it's easy to compromise
the integery of the game, and we've seen that. So
that's why it's been an issue.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Too many people are too close to the players, and
that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Do you know who I blame? I blame a lack
of IQ. I would guarantee the pitchers that haven't gotten
in trouble have a double digital IQ. You gotta be
really freaking stupid to do that. You're making fifty million
dollars at you're gambling on five thousand dollars a pitch.
Are you freaking kidding me? Lack of IQ stupidity, and
maybe they should give like a little bit of an

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IQ test before you play Major League Baseball match. Stop laughing,
it's true. You sound like an idiot too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Six at West Virginia University women basketball players were ejected
in their win over Duke the other night, Andy, who
do you blame?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I loved it. I saw a tape on that they're
going for fift cuffs. It was unbelievable, pushing and shoving.
They're ready to really fifth fight. And then after the game,
the West Virginia coach that he was proud of his girls.
Come on, really, you without the six players on the bench.
I mean, you have to have a little more decorum
as a coach to tell these people just to calm
down and relax. Please, you're not playing in the park.

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You're representing your school as well as yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, I mean it's not something that you want to see.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
You understand. You want to fight back. That's what the
tas that you talked for talking about as a coach,
make sure you fight for your teammates.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
But it's not anything that you want to do.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
You don't want to compromise the team's opportunity to win.
And that's what they did. They were able to win
it. It was a big win for them, But it's not
It's not something that you just certainly could do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Yeah, I'm watching the video right now. I did not
see this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
It's great. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Yeah, it's not like a can't fight. It's like a
straight up like punch, punch and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Give me my gloves. Put the gloves on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
That's funny. That's when we're on the rowsy stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Wow, I tell you what it's been. It's been real.
I mean, I can't believe that we're getting ready to
say goodbye. But again, as I say Mike Harman and
Greg Cosel, I want to wish everybody a good week.
Mark and Brie and Bucky have a great week. We'll
see you here next Sunday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.