Brian Noe and Olden Polynice talk Denver Nuggets and Ja Morant!

Brian Noe and Olden Polynice explain why the NBA Finals is heavily tilted in Denver’s favor after their Game 1 win, the oddity of the NBA coaching carousel, the looming suspension of Grizzlies PG Ja Morant, FSR NFL insider Adam Caplan joins the show, ways the Heat can make it a game tonight, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:44):
Shout out Peoria. There. We got some bds making good
decisions over in that area right there. Now, Olden, great
to be here with you. I just thought about this
literally about a minute ago. You, my friend, are a
man who is unafraid to go against the grain. We'll
get to Victor winm bin Yama a little bit later
in the show. I saw a video where he had

(01:05):
a two handed block and you're the first guy I
thought of where you're like, hey, he's got to put
on some weight. I'm not sold, And so I thought
of that. And we've got Game two coming up here
in a couple of hours, and I'm just wondering with
seemingly the world saying, Oh, it's Denver, It's Denver and
a cakewalk. It's going to be easier than I thought.
Are you going the other way? Are you swimming upstream

(01:29):
on this one? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I'm not. And the funny thing about it is
because I try to look at everything objectively, you know,
I try not to, you know, use the emotional card
or anything else, you know, the Homer card, because you
got to look at it for what it is, pound
for pound. Denver is the better team. Now with the NBA.
Would have liked the Lakers and Boss of course they would,

(01:52):
you know, for monetary reasons, of course. But at the
same time, this is the NBA, and if you don't
come to play, yeah, things are gonna happen. You might
lose a game doing the regular season. But in this situation,
the Denver Nuggets are by far the better team and
they're showing it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah. I wish I could go the other way. I
really do. But Denver is the better team. This is
as far as I can go. The other way is
I think Game two is gonna be a lot better.
I think that Jimmy Butler was passive in Game one,
only thirteen points. I think he's gonna play a lot better.
I think the team overall is gonna be a lot

(02:35):
more aggressive. They only had two free throw attempts in
game one. That's an NBA playoff low, not just the finals,
like all NBA playoff games. That's the lowest amount of
free throw attempts. And then you look at the role players.
Some of them just had horrible games. Max Struz couldn't
hit a field goal, Caleb Martin was bad, Duncan Robinson

(02:56):
was bad. I just don't think the role players can
get it worse in Game two compared to Game one.
So I think Miami's gonna play a lot better. Now.
The flip to that is Denver's probably gonna shoot from
outside a lot better. Also, they didn't shoot their threes
very well either. I think there'll be a lot more points.
Denver might come out of Game two and just hold
serve at home Olden, but I can see it being

(03:18):
a lot more enjoyable than Game one one.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, I kind of agree with you to a certain extent.
It will be a lot more enjoyable, but I think
the outcome's gonna still be the same. You know, the
stage was a lot brighter than Max Strew's and Caleb
Martin anticipated. But at the same time, let's go to
Denver side. I know, Miami, they have to play better.
They have no other choice, no other option. The Denver

(03:43):
Nuggets didn't play well technically. Jokics didn't really do anything
until the fourth quarter. He played a solid game. For
anybody else in that series, that was a great game,
that was a monumental game. But for him it was okay.
You know, he did what he had to do. You know,
he was feeding down, going inside because he saw the
mismatched smart play by him, and then when they needed

(04:06):
buckets at the end, he stepped up. That's what an
MVP does, you know, you gauge the situation, which he's
really good at. KCP did not play well. Bruce Brown
didn't play really well. Rather, they didn't give what they
normally give. I should say that, yeah, you know, Christian Brown,
same thing, Jeff Green. So the Nuggets have too many weapons,

(04:31):
and that's what I'm going by, and too many experienced guys,
more so than the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler played horrible.
Will he played better? I'm assuming so, But even if
he does, the Denver Nuggets are okay with that. They
are willing to let Jimmy Butler get buckets and do
his thing. They want to minimize the other guys.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know what's crazy is I agree with you about
Jokic for him being a two time MVP. That was
just an okay game and he went for twenty seven,
ten and fourteen, you know what I mean? Like that
he has arrived when we're like, yeah, well he was
all right, it was alright, He's at a triple double. Yeah,
it's crazy. That was his ninth of this postseason alone,

(05:14):
and it's it's just crazy. And I think this is
where it comes down to, is how do you defend
the guy? How do you try to slow him down?
What's the best approach? You tell me if this makes
any sense to you, now, listen, I'm not trying to
be minie. Eric Spolstra. He knows way more than I do,
and he'll probably come up with something that makes as
much sense as it can. I think what would make

(05:37):
sense is instead of doubling Jokic early, which they did
in Game one. He's the best passing big man of
all time and he's just gonna pick you apart, and
the role players start to get into a rhythm, they
start to get some confidence, and so I think it
makes sense. First half, a little bit into the second
single cover Yokic, he's gonna get his he's gonna score,

(06:00):
but you're not getting all these other guys with open
looks and getting their confidence. And then if you double
them later, you might see some of those role players
without a rhythm miss some of those open shots. You'd
like to prevent open shots as much as possible, but
you got to pick your boys in and if you
double Jokics later and mix it up, I think that

(06:20):
could be a good approach.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, I kind of agree and disagree at the same time.
The whole pick your poison thing it you know, people
tried that in the past. You know, perfect example was
the Warriors, you know, when they had Kadi that was
overkill and so it was like, Okay, who you gonna
leave open now? And so we knew and it kind
of brings me back to the first question. We knew
the Warriors what the overwhelming favorite, but yet we were

(06:45):
still watching the game in hopes that they lose or
it hopes that, you know, it doesn't get swept. So
it's stuff like that happening now with Denver, with the
team that they have. But you know, with that being said,
the Denver players are okay with I touched the ball
for a while. But at the same time, Mike Malone
has given everybody the free reign to do what they

(07:07):
need to do for the bendman of the team. Michael
Porter Junior is a perfect example of that. He came
down one time in Game one and shot a one
on four and a half three pointer, which he missed,
but it's still a good shot for him because he
was open. But at the same time, what it does
is it engages Miami into doing the same thing, countering,

(07:31):
and it gets them running in that altitude. A lot
of times it might look like a bad shot for
the Nuggets, it's actually part of the game plan to
get a team running with them, So they're not worried
about if guys haven't touched the ball for a while,
because Jokich is gonna make sure they get shots, and
they themselves are going to make sure they get shots.
Jamal Murray, I can't remember which game it was earlier,

(07:54):
you know, like probably last round. He didn't play well,
he didn't shoot the ball. Well, guess what, he kept
shooting the ball and then he picked it up. And
so that's how this team has been built, and everybody
trusts each other.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I wonder. I think we've come to the end
of the line for the Miami ye. And that's the thing, Olden.
I don't it's a weird thing. I don't want to
overreact to game one, but I don't want to underreact either,
you know what I mean, Like you gotta find the
middle ground right there. And I think it was Jeff
fan Gundy who pointed it out in game one, where

(08:30):
he's like, Denver is just so much bigger if you
just look like who's guarding who you mentioned a little
bit earlier, Aaron Gordon where he had a great first
quarter and Jokic assisted on a couple of those easy buckets.
He's just gonna put Gabe Vincent in the weight room.
You always hear is it shack that says mouse in
the house or barbecue chicken. That's what it's gonna be.

(08:52):
And Gabe Vincent has played well in the playoffs, but
he's got no answer for Aaron Gordon. And when Jokic
is just feeding Aaron Gordon and putting in the best position,
there's only so much you can do. I could see
Miami shooting the lights out in a game, maybe two games.
I could see Jimmy Butler going crazy in a game.

(09:13):
I still think it could be a six game series.
But I just don't see how Miami ends up winning
the whole thing. And that's what they're trying to do.
They're not trying to just, hey, let's make it at
least a gentleman's sweep or a best of sixth series.
They're trying to win this thing. I just don't see
how they can.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I understand, And that's my whole thing, and that's what
I'm trying to get people to understand. The best team
is supposed to win, period. I don't care about all
this other stuff. Well, you know, they have four undrafted players,
all that good stuff, and it's great story, great narrative,
and I'm impressed with these guys. But there's a reason
why you weren't drafted, and so at the same time,

(09:50):
you know, it's almost a hit or miss kind of
thing when with the draft anyways, we've had guys go
number one didn't pan out, so forget all that. It's
about who's ready to play. But at the end of
the day, the better players will always be the better players,
and so it doesn't matter if you're playing over your head. Well,
the better player is gonna always be better, period, And

(10:14):
for you to play your a game and lose it
doesn't bode well with you. You know, they took the
Boston Celtics to seven and one, right, all because Jason
Tatum with the bad ankle and crappy ball handling and
lots and lots of miss three pointers. It took all
of that for them to win a seven game series

(10:37):
when they were up three zero. And so now you're
playing a smarter team, a better team, a bigger team,
a more athletic team, a more confident team. Did I
say smarter? Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Know you're up against it in this way. Yeah. I
hadn't thought of it until now, But I really wonder
how Game one would have gone in the fine if
Miami had gotten past Boston in a sweep or a
gentleman sweep. You know, let's say that series goes five
instead of seven. How much of a difference does it

(11:12):
make in Game one?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I do think it would have made a difference, absolutely right,
And we were talking about it. It's like, no matter
who came out of that series, they were done because
it was just too much physically for either team. So
now I imagine if Boston had won, right, even with
a Jason Tatum ankle, we really would have been like,
oh my god, it's a sweep. And so it's the

(11:34):
same thing with Miami. It doesn't matter. They just wore
each other down in the ECF to the point where
it didn't matter. These boys had nine days of rest. Yeah,
and this is the kind of team that needed the
rest and they wanted it, they embraced it, and they
not see, there's two types of teams. There's a team
that gets nine days of rest and they go party, clubbing,

(11:56):
all that good stuff, you know, they go on little
mini vacates. And there's a team like the Nuggets, who
took it seriously and did they job and prepare it
and not a ray to you know, show the world
what they can do.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I can't anticipate jokicch just hitting the town eight
evenings before game one. You know what I mean. He
strikes me as a dude who's maybe playing Call of
Duty or I don't know, just something off the wall
at home. I love, yeah, hanging out watching that. That
was the story was. Jokic was pointing to his hand

(12:32):
after game one, and people are like, whoa is he
pointing to get a ring? And it's no, like you're saying,
he's a family man. It's something with his daughter. It's
like a song or something like that where it's a
rabbit and the rabbit is drinking out of a hand,
and so that's why he's pointing to his hand and
it's just a song that he and his daughter like.

(12:54):
That's all that's going on. You're right, they're probably watching
rabbit videos and just chilling. He's off his feet until
game No.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'll give you one even better. Did you see what
Aaron Gordon just did for Jamal Murray?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
He purchased? He purchased a necklace for him with his
initials and his number diamond studded as a thank you
for being a great teammate and a good friend. There
you go. That's come on.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And they like each other. They're the better team and
they like each other on top of it.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, the statement Aaron Gordon made was the most profound
to me. He said, I don't care about stats here,
I care about winning. Yeah, and I think all of
these guys are in that. Look at Ish Schmid, thirteen
teams in thirteen years and he's happy. Reggie Jackson not
getting any minutes, he's happy, DeAndre ecstatic. Yep, come on,

(13:50):
it's insane.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah. Yeah, It's one of those things olden where I
think you start to follow the lead of your star player.
And Jokich is a superstar, and what you're seeing is like, Yo,
kicch is He's not like I gotta get mine, I
gotta get thirty plus points or what. He's just gonna
take what the defense gives him. He took three shots
in the first half of Game one, you know what

(14:12):
I mean. He didn't care. And so I think you
start to see that kind of like trickle down to
the rest of the team. And I'll give credit to
the role players for having that mentality. It's not all
because of Jokic, but Yokich is the superstar, and his
mentality sets a tone and you can see it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
He's a reluctant superstar. You know, he cares about his team,
but like he said, there's other things that are more meaningful.
But he does take pride in his job and he
handles this as such. He's gonna play like you just
mentioned with the three shots, but he wasn't mad, he
wasn't forcing shots. It's like I'm gonna get mine. I'm

(14:51):
looking at the scoreboard. We're up fifteen, so it's not
necessary at this moment. These guys know how to do
that and it's refreshing and I wish people would really
get on board on this instead of looking at all
these egocentric individuals that want to just jack up three
pointers and do one on one at the top of

(15:12):
the key and thinking that's basketball. What the Denver Nuggets
are doing is basketball, and it's really really good basketball.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
No no doubt about that. We got a lot to
get to, much more hoop stuff, some NFL on the way,
some interesting stories to get to. Adam Kaplan will join
us next hour, so that'll be at what six twenty
Eastern time, and just do the math with the different
time zones six twenty Eastern type cover it up. Next man,

(15:42):
the carousel has taken quite the turn we will discuss.

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(16:54):
George Reister is moving today, Olden. One of the biggest
pains you'll experience in life is just packing up all
your stuff and moving to wherever you're moving. So he's
in moving mode here today. Not one of my favorite
things to.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Moving.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Really, it's on the short list of sucky things in
life that you have to encounter. You know, that's the
way it goes.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
How about this.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I didn't plan it out this way, but there are
a couple of coaches that are packing up their things
and moving. They're making enough money where they can have
somebody else pack up their things and move it for them.
But how about this the coaching carousel in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
So we have.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Frank Vogel going to the Phoenix Suns, and then we
have Many Williams who got fired by the Phoenix Suns.
He goes to the Pistons. Now the money is what's
striking here, Olden. You've got Frank Vogel who signs a
five year deal. It's thirty one point two five million dollars. Okay,

(17:58):
and we'll circle back to the two five in a second.
And then Monty Williams six year deal seventy eight point
five million, he becomes the highest paid head coach in
NBA history. What do you make of that? Just those
two where Manny Williams out and then lands in a
cushy spot in terms of a contract, and then Frank

(18:21):
Vogel he's back as an NBA head coach, but it's
almost like he had to take a smaller rate, like
he it's like a hometown discount or something like that.
With Frank Vogel going over there to team up with
KD and Devin Booker in the Valley of the Sun.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, it's insane, man, And I've always had a problem
with that. I don't have a problem with people working
and getting jobs as coaches, you know, I respect it.
I'm a coach. I would love to have one of
these jobs all NBA gms. I would love to have
one of these jobs. There you go, and I'm well qualified.

(18:59):
But it's funny of me how you get fired, yeah,
and you get promoted. Yep, that's a weird concept for me.
You know. It's like in any other profession, you don't
get fired and get promoted, get a better job. You
don't get fired from the worst team to the best
team of the seventeenth best market to the number one

(19:24):
best market. Stuff. You just don't do that. Minnie Williams
is a great coach. He's a maker of man, I
get it, and he's gonna do well. There. Young team
they need somebody like Monnie Williams and he's gonna have success.
But seventy eight million dollars, what's Popovich word? Word? Yeah,
what's Steve kerrworth? So those guys saying to me.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
They're not gonna hate on money getting his money, and
I know that's not what you're saying, but yeah, it's
like Many Williams just lost an elimination game against Denver
by twenty five points. The season prior elimination game at
home again against Dallas, they lose by thirty three Old day.
So Phoenix moves on and now Many Williams, the same

(20:09):
guy is the highest paid coach in NBA history. That
that math just doesn't add up.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
And those kind of losses, Just to make this point,
those aren't on players, Those are coaching mistakes. Those are
those are substitutions, those are game plans. That's on coaches.
You know, you have to be able to have your
team rate to perform or you sit their butts down
and you get somebody else in there. But again, I'm
happy for the man, you know, because it's great you

(20:39):
know that you're able to do that. And I'm a
proponent of if you get fired, not if you get
bought out, but if you get fired, and the term
is used, you should have to sit out of ye Oh.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Really you would like to see like the old school
non transfer bortal days of college they.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Sit out of ye Why. I mean they've been doing
to players and college kids all these years. Why not
the coaches. Why do they get to always get the
better end of the stick. No, if you get fired
as an NBA coach, you need to sit out one
year because I remember like when Doc Rivers got fired
went from Orlando, he went into TV for a you

(21:19):
that's fine. I don't care if you go do television,
go do anything, but you cannot get rehired within a
week or two.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wow. You know it's sort of like soccer. You get relegated,
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Ooh, I love that you got soccer man, they keep
it real, they do. Man, you don't play well, you
get relegated, They say you to the ninth division.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
It is strange though in the NBA, where Nick Nurse
is another example. So Nick Nurse, he won a championship
with the Raptors, but he got let go by Toronto
and he ends up in a better spot in Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah,
so it's weird. You can fa upward.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
The one guy I had a problem with was Budenholzer.
I didn't think he deserved to get canned.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I didn't either.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
There was so many circumstantial things that were going on
that he had to deal with. The team had to
deal with. You know, the players, they didn't play well,
and they'll be the first one to admit it. But
you know, he, the coach himself, went through a lot,
and I thought they could have just waited on that one. Oh,
at least wait till give him a month or so.

(22:28):
Let him grieve, you know, let him deal with his
brother's death. You know, you ain't got a five like
right away.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I know it. His brother died in the first
round series when the Bucks lost to Miami, and that
was before Game four. But coached two more games after
his brother died in a car accident. Terrible.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'm good on the Bucks front office, man, man.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And you look at Bud. He won seventy percent of
his games with Milwaukee championship and Milwaukee really interesting. Here
they interview Nick Nurse, and they go with Nick Nurse's
assistant and Adrian Griffin, who's former NBA player, but he's
been an assistant for fifteen years and now he gets

(23:15):
his shot coaching Giannis in the Milwaukee Bucks. We're gonna
circle back to that a lot, because first part of
it is can he win seventy percent of his games
over five years and a championship like Bud did? And
then also who has more success? Is it Griffin with
the Bucks or is it Nick Nurse with the Sixers

(23:38):
when the Bucks could have hired Nick Nurse. That's gonna
be really interesting.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Can I answer that?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
What do you have Nick Nurse? Of course?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, you think Nick will be more successful?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Of course, that's that's a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Man, I know it. But that was Giannis. That's the
thing is Jon.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And alrighty ight up. I don't even know if we
have it on schedule, and not to talk about this,
but I'll bring it up anyway. You can flesh it
out later. Yeah, I'm still tripping on that video of
Janni's and you know, getting excited about when somebody asked him,
how about you joined the Warriors. I'm still kind of
leary on that one. I think there's a chance he

(24:17):
might ask for a trade.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, you know what, let's circle back to that in
just a couple of minutes, because I want to dive in.
I like when you know, like you have a plan
in radio, but you don't. You can't be.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Strict, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And I like that you have a You've tickled the
taste buds over here, Olden Polonyes. So we'll get into that.
Right around the corner. Nick Cope is with us today
and he's gonna spin us around this sporting landscape. What
should we know here, Nick.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Well, we're just about two and a half hours away
from Game two of the finals between the Heat and
the Nuggets. Denver's got that one ozero series lead. Caleb
Martin did not practice yesterday for the Heat due to illness.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
He is listed as questionable.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Still no word if he is gonna play, but as
we get clos I anticipate we will get some further
word on Caleb Martin and his availability. Let's go to baseball.
Run through these final scores. Rays beat the Red Sox
six to two. They're now a big league best forty
two and nineteen. Blue Jays have won six of seven.
They got the six to four win today over the Mets.

(25:18):
Is the teams combined for six home runs. Angels got
a two to one road win against the Astros. Show
Hey Otani's go ahead double in the eighth inning provided
the winning run. White Sox over the Tigers six to two,
and a great story here because on National Cancer Survivor's
Day it was Liam Hendrix who got the win for Chicago.
It was, of course, diagnosed with lymphoma in December, cancer

(25:40):
free and April, and he just returned to the big
leagues a week ago and he gets the win today.
Brewers won their third straight against the Reds five to one.
Pirates top of the Cardinals two to one. Royals shut
out the Rockies two zip. Guardians hung on against the
Twins two to one. Phillies blew out the Nationals eleven
to three. Kyle Schwarber homer twice. He's got fifteen of

(26:00):
them now on the season. Marlins overcame a four run
deficit for a seven to five win over the A's,
and the Rangers blew out the Mariners twelve to three.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Couple games going on right now.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Orioles in control against the Giants six to nothing in
the fifth, and the Diamondbacks have just taken a lead
on the Braves. It is five to three in the fourth.
At the French Open, Novak Djokovic and top seed Carlos
Alcaraz each one in straight sets to put themselves into
the quarterfinals. On the women's side, American Sloan Stevens lost
to two seed Arena Sabolenka. In golf for got the

(26:32):
Memorial Tournament. Wrapping up Denny McCarthy with the lead at
eight under. He's got two holes to go. He's got
a one shot lead on Victor Hovelin, who is currently
on the last hole, So chance for Hovelin to maybe
work himself into a time for the lead here in
the latter stages.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
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(27:09):
So you're talking about the Jannis video where sort of
his ears perked up, his eyes got a little bit
wider about the possibility of going to the Warriors. And
that's the thing that's interesting to be like, the Warriors
reign isn't gonna last much longer. Like you might have
Steph there for a few more years, but the general

(27:32):
makeup that team's gonna look a lot different here very soon.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh it has to. And you know, we learned a
lot about the Warriors. You know, Bob Myers is out now,
so they got to bring somebody else in, you know,
hopefully that can you know, you know, capture Lightning in
a bottle again. But they have to do something with
Jordan Poole because the punch will live on. Yeah, but

(27:58):
you cannot have these guys co exis this thing, because
that will always be a narrative and everybody was trying
to make it that you know, well, the reason they
lost to the Lakers because of the punch. Now, it's
not the Warriors are not big. They're not a big team.
They lost because they needed Wiseman, you know, they needed

(28:21):
Dwight Howard, somebody, a big body that could bang with
the Anthony Davis or whomever. And so to me, that's
why they lost. They have to do something about Kaminga.
He played last year in the finals, but he couldn't
play this year in the finals. These are problems that
the Warriors have, you know. They have to do something

(28:43):
about the Draymond and Clay situation contractually, so they they
will be a changed team, you know. And so to me,
when I saw that video and Giannis was like Warriors,
Warriors who Warriots? Right right, I was like, Okay, Thatt's
making me man. That perked me up a little bit

(29:06):
because that would be even better than Durant.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, well, that's it would be, absolutely it would be.
That's what's interesting is I wonder what the Bucks front
office thought about that video. Where you think about it,
they've made a change. They didn't just fire Budenholzer for
the heck of it. They absolutely ran it by Jannis.
And then when they were hiring their new head coach,

(29:33):
Adrian Griffin. They more than ran it by Jannis. They
invited Giannis over to dinner and to give them the
go ahead, like, hey, give us your input. Who do
you like? And I get it old, And I think
it's partially smart to cater to your superstar. If you're Milwaukee,
you absolutely don't want to see Yannis go anywhere else,

(29:54):
so you want to make sure he's happy. But at
the same time, I think you gotta find the middle
ground where he doesn't just become your GM and you're
doing everything that he wants because guess what, he might
not be the best at figuring out who the next
head coach should.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's the best at GMing. Yes, that what happens.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, and so I think that sometimes you can take
that too far as an organization.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Definitely, And that's the point. Yeah, he gave the go ahead. Okay, Fine,
you know they were gonna fight Bud no matter what,
no matter what Yiannis said. So you bringing Adrian Griffin. Okay.
So now Adrian Griffin finds out that, oh Jannis gave
the okay, you think he's gonna be yelling at Giannis.
There's nothing he can do to Giannis is in full control,

(30:43):
and Giannis was in control when we saw his brother
get put on the team. That's right. I'm better than
this dude now.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, yeah, even at this moment. Huh.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I haven't played in twenty years and I'm better than him.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I love it, man. You know. The other thing though, too,
is if you go back to the punch with Draymond
Green decking Jordan Buole a couple of things. I think
that when you hear from Steve Kerr after they lose
to the Lakers, and you hear from Draymond, hey, the
punch had something to do with our chemistry, And I
agree it had something to do with it, but you

(31:21):
made the better point. It's just harder for you to admit, Hey,
the Laker's just better than us right now, so you want.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
To make it.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well, if I didn't punch him in the face and
it wasn't publicized, and then maybe it's just harder to
admit another team was just flat out better. With that
being said, I still think there was something there. And
you hear this all the time. There are fights all
the time in locker rooms. There are, yeah, but I
never saw one video of Steve Kerr getting punched by

(31:50):
Michael Jordan. You know what I mean, Like when we
have video of it and now we have social media,
it's such a different dynamic than when it happened back
in the day.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yes, and that was the beauty of all our fights.
It wasn't being publicized. Right, Like I said, I was
with the Detroit pisson too. An Isaiah punched Lambiert and
Isaiah subsequently broke his hand on Lambier's head and then
we were sitting playing cards afterwards, like nothing happened. But

(32:20):
let's go back to that punch. A couple of things happened.
I'll say this first. In the black community, that punch
was a punch with a lot behind it, not the
actual physical throwing of it. It's the way he did it. Okay,

(32:40):
he got his whole body into it, and when we
look at it, we're like, oh, he put everything he had.
There was a lot of anger behind that punch, Okay,
like a lot of anger because he jumped up and
punched down. And so to me, it was more than
just two getting into it. So it had to be

(33:02):
some other stuff brewing, which bring me to this point
from what I had found out for my sources, Apparently
Stephan Clay were already having issues with Jordan Poole and
they had asked Draymond to intervene. You need to talk
to the diva is how they put it. And so
to me, those were things that were going on within

(33:23):
the Warriors organization that was eventually became the punch.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I don't know if Draymond is the guy that I
would seek out. Hey, well, you gotta have a heart
to heart.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
But Draymond was the guy, and basically like, yo, man,
tell him, yo, he needs to chill because they're not
gonna really Jordan wasn't gonna listen to Stephan. STEP's not
that kind of guy, and neither is Clay. Drayma's gonna
come at you. Yo, man, chill. You know you need
to bring it back, Okay, you need to ease up.
And also Jordan Poole should be thinking Draymond for the

(33:56):
punch that got him paid well.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And then the last year, the previous year, it was
so crazy how he was really really good in the
playoffs what last season, but man, this season not so much.
It was night and day completely different. We got a
lot to do over here. We gotta get to this
right around the corner, a little bit of ball. There's
gonna be a big change in college football. Would you

(34:23):
like to see the same thing happen in the NFL?
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dot com studios. So that's caught my eye here, Olden,
You've got the SEC, the Southeastern Conference. So what they're

(34:47):
gonna do next year? So this is for the twenty
twenty four season, they're eliminating divisions. No more SEC East,
no more SEC West. Finally they're gonna stick with eight
conference Schames for now, could revisit it for the twenty
five season. But the division thing, it caught my attention
and I just started thinking about it in the NFL.

(35:10):
Would you be up for that in the NFL if
you just had AFC NFC but no divisions, it would
change the scheduling quite a bit. But I don't know, man,
it'd be pretty interesting if they did it that way,
and you wouldn't get the benefit if you play in
a weaker division right now, if you look at the

(35:30):
Jacksonville Jaguars just popped in my head. The AFC South
is freaking brutal right now. They are the class of
that division, so that helps them out for sure. If
you look at some tougher divisions top to bottom, AFC West,
you know, NFC East is pretty decent, right Like, you
wouldn't have that uphill battle if you're one of the

(35:52):
lesser teams in a tougher division. Would you be open
to them eliminating divisions in the NFL?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Oh, I would definitely be up for that, because then
it will just be the top teams because a lot
of teams get into the playoffs based on the fact
that they want a crappy division. And by the way,
let me say this, the SEC should change their names,
okay to NFL Mini.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's right, Yeah, Mike, I know it's.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
That whole conference is just it's an NFL hot bid,
that's all. It is, all NFL guys. But yeah, I
do like that proposition, So good for them, you know,
and I'm sure hopefully other schools other conferences will go
into that as well. But that's a good move for SEC.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, I think you're gonna see this in the Big ten.
I'm pretty sure they're doing the same thing. I can't
remember if it's this year or next year. They're eliminating divisions,
but I think it's gonna be a common deal in
college football.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Are they a Big ten, Big ten, Big twelve, Big nine?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
They are sixteen right now or so? Yeah, there's I
get so confused with all of this. No, man, it's
too much. It's too much because it's just it's constantly changing.
You've got Colorado, they're talking about going back to the
Big twelve. They've just been hanging out. They've been friends
with benefits. I guess with the Pac twelve. Another thing

(37:16):
about going back to their old that's helarious. There's just
so much movement. I don't have a huge problem with it.
I just want to know what we're signing up for here,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I just call yourself the Big ten, and you got fifteen,
sixteen teams in this.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Fifteen.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, they would have so many different logos if they
switched every single time, they're gonna be the Big eighteam.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
So basically, so what you're saying, they just said Okay,
this is we're gonna trademark this the Big ten name,
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
No matter, That's pretty much it. They've just stuck with that.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm sure with that.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, same thing, Big twelve they've had ten. They've had
ten for it. They had at one point the Big
Ten had twelve and the Big twelve had ten. I
don't know what year. A couple of years ago that
was exactly the case. So yeah, it's wild. But yeah,
you think about that in the NFL pretty interesting, right
at first, I'm like, whoa, whoa. I like that you

(38:16):
have four divisions of four teams in each conference. I
like how it sets up. But if you just eliminated that,
think about just the race to the playoffs down the stretch.
We don't have any terrible division winners. Think about Tampa Bay.
They were eight to nine last year. You're not guaranteed

(38:36):
a playoff spot exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
But that's how it's supposed to be cool with that. Yeah, yeah,
and that's why I'm all for it, because now the
better records, the better teams will be in the playoffs,
not because you in a bad situation. You know, we've
seen this over the years in the NBA. You know,
teams with horrible records, if you put them in the

(38:59):
Eastern Conference, this division, they would just be at the
bottom of the barrel. And yet they're you know, they
have winning records for their division, but not for the league.
And so I don't want I don't want to reward
people for bad play. That's always been my thing. I
don't want to reward you, you know, because you're in
this division. You know, like you said with Tampa Bay

(39:19):
eight and nine, Yeah, eight and nine should not be
in anybody's playoffs.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, and you certainly shouldn't get a home playoff game
on top right. That has always been crazy to me.
I think that you could eliminate that part of it
if you wanted to keep divisions and just say, okay,
your reward for winning your division, you're a playoff team, okay,
but you shouldn't get a home playoff game on top
of that. That's insane to me. But think about that too.

(39:46):
Where if you kept it with AFC NFC and you
just had sixteen teams in each with no divisions, what
you could do schedule wise? While we have seventeen games
right now, who's your favorite team? Do you have one
olden the g men. Right, Okay, so let's take your Giants.
So in the NFC, what they could do for the

(40:07):
schedule of your seventeen games. You play all the teams
in the NFC, You play all fifteen teams in the NFC,
and then your remaining two games would be against AFC teams.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I don't hate it at all.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Reckon Alrek, who would be a lot better.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I mean, it's not gonna be perfect because there are
some great rivalries that I don't want to see and
go away. They wouldn't go away, but you wouldn't get
those two matchups each year. So it's like, okay, I
mean you, as a Giants fan, you still get to
see him play against the Cowboys. You still see him
against Philly, you still see him against Washington. It's not
like those rivalries go away. You just don't get a

(40:50):
home and home every single year. I think you could
still live with that, right.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm okay with it. I'm definitely okay with it.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't hate it at all. I think it could
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It'll be a lot of fun, and we don't get
to beat up on each other as much.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Well, yeah, that's true sometimes if you play in a
physical division like the Black and Blue NFC North or
something like, Yeah, it takes its toll, all right, come
it up next. The stance makes sense, but the announcement
of the stance makes zero sense. We'll explain, Oh, we
got so much to get to over here, We've got
an announcement that doesn't make any sense, even though the

(41:28):
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(41:52):
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That that is a key question that we will dive
into a little bit later today. But we got to
get to this business first. Business first, We're like the mullet.

(42:14):
You know, we got the business up front, we got
the party in the back, you know, so we'll get
to the party year momentarily. But how about this NBA
Commissioner Adam Silver, he has talked about the upcoming announcement
of the suspension for John Morant. John Morant, Memphis Grizzlies
point guard star player, was on social media again with

(42:38):
a gun. And so this is what Silver had to
say this week, right before the finals began. This is
the commission.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
We've uncovered a fair amount of additional information. I think
since I was still asked about the situation, I would
say we probably could have brought it to a head now.
But he made the decision, and I believe the players
Association agrees with us that it would be unfair to
these players and these teams in the middle of the

(43:09):
series to announce the results of that investigation. And given
that we're, of course in the offseason. He has now
been suspended by the Memphis Grizzlies indefinitely, and so nothing
would have changed anyway in the next few weeks. It
seemed better to park that at the moment, at least,
any public announcement, and my sense now is that shortly

(43:32):
after the conclusion of the finals, we will announce the
outcome of that investigation.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Look, man, I get it old, and I think the
stance from the commissioner in the NBA makes sense. You
don't want to upstage the finals matchup, But I don't
know why you would announce that by just announcing it
and starting it off saying we've uncovered a fair amount
of information. We're just like, well, what did you uncover?
How long is it going to be suspended? So I

(43:59):
just think he should have said, hey, we're just being thorough,
will announce it when the investigation is complete and just
leave it at that. I think he was too detailed
in announcing, like the stance and when it will be
officially announced that I think it's still distracted from the finals.
The way he went about it.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I don't know, per se, because the way he did it,
I thought it was good. You know, he gave him
a date or a certain area of time when he
would be announcing it, and so I think that took
away from them, you know, hopping on him like, hey, man,
tell us some more you know, follow up questions and
all that. That's how I'm perceiving it, and you know

(44:40):
it could be taken both ways, you know, so I thought,
but if announcing it would have been way worse because
then it would have been all about Ja Morant and
the suspension. We would not be talking about the Denver
Nuggets or the Miami Heat. And so he had to
look at it from that vein, and I kind of
agree with what he did.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
So, oh, I totally agree with that. I think it's
the better stance to not announce it before the finals
or during the finals. You gotta do it afterward. So
I get that. I think the stance makes a ton
of sense. I just don't think announcing It's almost like
a movie trailer, you know what I mean, Like you're
watching a commercial where it's like, go see this movie

(45:19):
on June twentieth, and you're like, oh man, what's this
gonna be about. That's what Silver has done. He's teased
that a suspension will be announced soon. He's teased that
the NBA has uncovered a fair amount of additional information,
and he's also said that the NBA will punish Moran.
Although he didn't break the law, right, it's gonna be
it's not a legal standard. It's a private organization standard exactly,

(45:42):
which I totally understand. But I just don't know. If
you don't want the focus to be on JA and
you want it to be on the finals, I don't
know why you'd be saying all this stuff about JA
when you could have just kept it all under wraps.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
But that's the beauty of the NBA. They are known
for being like the soap opera of Swartz. There's always
something going on. The NBA stays in being talked about
twelve months out the year, and again that's the beauty
of that brainchild. These people that sit in New York,

(46:16):
they know what they're doing. There's always something, whether it's Lebron,
whether it's whatever, there's always something going on. And you're
absolutely right, no laws were technically broken. But at the
same time, the NBA, ever since that whole situation with
Gilbert Arenaz and Javages Clintinton, it was put in place,

(46:39):
you know guns. The only thing I can say for
Jah Morant is that he was not on any you know,
team property, team facilities, so he might get away with
less of a suspension. But something's coming only because and
it's not even gonna be about the gun. It's the
fact that you sat with the commission.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, that's a major you say this.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Man, and you told them ABC and D Yep. You know,
I've learned my lesson. This was tough. It was a
mental thing. And then he used that. That's what I'm
upset about. He went to mental route.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
He did.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
There's a lot of people that are suffering, so I
don't want you to use it as a way to
get out of something. If you are suffering from mental issues,
then take it seriously enough to not make the same
mistake again. You know, you don't need to be dancing anymore.
You don't need to be flashing the guns and calls
with your buddies singing songs anymore. I'm sorry. That's not

(47:39):
a mental issue. That's an ignorance issue.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, you're right about that. And that was what he
said after the first video, was that he was dealing
with a lot of stress and and he crafted it
a different way where it's like he has to find
better ways to manage his stress more efficiently. I forget
how it exactly was worded, but he was talking about
stress and I never bought into that because I think

(48:04):
you just got to own your wrongdoing and say I
was an idiot, I was stupid. Leave it at that,
you know, instead of I'm trying to find more effective
ways of dealing with stress. It's like, who deals with
stress like that? Who feels less stressed out? If you're like,
is anybody come up to you? Like man, Old and
I got the wife, the kids, I got the mortgage.
But then I just go on ig Live and flash

(48:25):
my my, you know my nine and I feel great,
Like no one talks like that. So I don't know, Man,
I'm hoping that he figures it out, but I think
there's gonna be a lengthy suspension. What are you anticipating
because this is the second time in the span of
two months, and like you said, after he sat down
with the commission and tended to indicate that he got

(48:45):
it and then he went out and stepped in it again,
I think it's gonna be upwards of thirty games. I
think it's gonna be a much more significant suspension than
the eight game deal he got the first time around.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Well, yeah, Memphis was trying to jump afy a train.
You know, they were, hey, let's suspend him because we
know something's coming. Because this is the second time. But
if the league sees that we're taking this stance, maybe
they'll be lenient. No, it's not gonna happen. I'm saying
anywhere from thirty five.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
To forty really Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
We'd add it on, you know. And so so it'll
be all inclusive because it's gonna be most likely half
the season because that's the second time, and they're gonna
send a strong, strong message, That's what I'm thinking. But
who knows. He might he might start crying again. I

(49:37):
don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, I thought that they Look, man, Memphis suspended jow
six games the first time in the NBA. Just tacked
on two games and Jaw wasn't even healthy. He couldn't
even come back. Yeah yet he wasn't healthy. Now, Yeah,
so I don't know. There have been times where I
thought the NBA would be more heavy handed with the
suspension and they haven't been. I'm anticipating they lowered the

(50:02):
boom this time.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, because and it's not even like I said, it's
not even the gun or anything else. It's the fact
you sat next to me. You sat next to me
and lied to me. Yeah, you bade me your word.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, you're insulting my intelligence now right what it is.
And I also think this too, where man, you we
talked about this with Jokic and how the team follows
the lead of the star. I think you see Memphis,
that's just an immature team and a lot of that
is following the lead of an immature leader, which is

(50:35):
John Morant. Look at Miami. Look at what they've done
following the lead in a good way of Jimmy Butler.
Jimmy Butler is a grinder. He's one of the best
competitors in basketball, in sports right now. And you see
them following his lead, Jimmy Butler. And where Miami is
at right now, that's exactly where Memphis should be.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And for years though, it's like they got rid of
all these veterans, like good veterans that could help your
team and talk to these guys and send a message
to them. And I remember when the Denver situation happened
with John Moran. What's his Teammatevin Adams's talking to him.

(51:20):
They had a meeting. Hey guys, no going out, come on,
let's watch ourselves. He's trying to be a good veteran.
So what happened John Moran flashing the gun in the nightclub.
So they not listen. These young guys, this generation is like, really,
they've lost their way, and I don't know if they're
gonna get it back. The Memphis Grizzlies is one of

(51:42):
those teams. They don't have any leadership. Dylan Brooks was
acting a fool. Now he's gone. You know, Jaron Jackson,
I don't think it's his personality, you know, and then
who else, Desmond Bain, I don't think he's good enough
to do that. So they don't have anybody. Yeah, and
it's it's unfortunate. And then when your your best player

(52:04):
is acting a fool, who's really gonna go and say
something to him? And I've been saying this, The person
that needs to be grabbing him by his neck and
sitting him down is dancing on the court and starting
fights with you know, Shannon Shop And that's his father. Yeah,
he has gotta make up. He's gotta take a better

(52:26):
stance with his son.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
No, that's a good point right there. But that's what
I'm saying is, look at the teams in the finals
right now, Denver led by Jokic, Miami led by Jimmy Butler,
they are light worlds ahead in terms of maturity. I'm
not talking about on the court, because John Moran's a
fantastic player, but and he can hold his own with
both of those guys, even though Jokic is clearly the

(52:49):
top player in the NBA right now. But where they're
separated is the maturity aspect, the leadership aspect. Jah isn't
half the leader or as mature as Yokich or Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Did you say half?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
He's not half as mature as those guys, not even.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
An inch a fifth?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Zero too much credit? Half half is too much credit? Right, No,
I hear you. We'll get to Adam Kaplan coming up here.
Talking to NFL, I mentioned this to you. I read
this olden where if you get your toothbrush, they say
it's it's a bad thing, bad thing. Over here, they said,

(53:31):
this is one of the doctors says that, uh, it
weakens the bristles of the toothbrush and it's less effective
when cleaning your teeth. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Let me yeah, right, So they're saying, like before you
put the toothpaste on, or like slight right after you
put the toothpaste on. You're not supposed to like, run

(53:53):
water on it, please, And it says it weakens the bristles.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Why get a new tooth brush. You're supposed to have
of a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Don't you After you brush your teeth, what do you do?
You clean the toothbrush with water? You just throw it back.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
And that's trying to come up with some crap. That's
what I get mad about. There's always somebody trying to
come with some crap. I want to say this. I do,
put the toothpaste on it, and then I always I've
done this since I was a kid. I run it underwater,
soften it. I don't like that hard bristle.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
So you go after you put the toothpaste on there.
I didn't know what I did, because it's a subconscious thing.
It turns out I bookend it olden. I put the
water on just right before. And this makes a little sense.
There's another doctor that said, uh, you know it's got

(54:44):
it dilutes it, you know, so it foams up faster
and you gotta spit out all the stuff a little
bit sooner. So that makes a much little sense.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Crap. We keep a lot of two brushes at home.
So I'm I'm okay, I'm not tripping on this. You know,
they we're just trying to get some money out of us.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Man. They have not they have not convinced me that
I can no longer run my toothbrush underwater before brushing
my teeth, not at all. If anything, they've strengthened my
stance of doing so, you know what I'm saying. Okay,
We've got Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider around the corner.
Lot's going on with DeAndre Hopkins. What does this market

(55:23):
look like?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I want to know?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Not looking to robust at the moment. We'll compare notes
with Adam coming up. I'm Brian, No, he's olden polonies.
It's Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian know he's old in polonies.
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and save at Progressive dot Com. Want to welcome in
Adam Kaplan FSR NFL inside. You know, Adam, it's funny
with DeAndre Hopkins, wide receiver who's a free agent right now.

(56:06):
I want to get your read on it because to me,
it almost feels like he broke up with his girl
and he just downloaded Tinder and he thinks he's going
to crush it and it's like he doesn't have a
whole lot of matches right now. What is his market
looking like in your eyes at this point.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
So it's a couple of things that First of all,
when we look at his situation, I know some people
are trying to compare him to Odell Beckham junior, and
they're not really the same type of player. They're roughly
the same age. Hopkins is maybe a couple months older.
Hopkins does turn thirty one next week, but he's not
a downfield passing threat. Odell could run. Although he's been hurt,
his workout was actually pretty good for clubs before he

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saw with Baltimore. That helped him get that big deal
for one year. D hop to me is he's not
going to change his game. He's a possession receiver, really
exceptional at it. He's done that throughout his career. Going
back to twenty thirteen. He's been terrific, but the last
few years have been injury marred. He had the suspension
as well. There's this belief ron the league he's not
the same player now he did We should note this

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he did hire an agent. He did not have an
agent when he did the deal with the Cardinals. He
actually had an advisor did actually pretty good job with it.
But he just had a new agency. But the bottom
line is he's not an explosive playmaker and he's not Odell.
Despite all the injuries that that the Ravens were, they
they knew after that workout he was going to be

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their guy and they're going to rely on him, Whereas
I think when you look at d Hop, he's just
part of it. He's part of your offense. He's not
the guy who's going to be your focal points.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah, Oh go ahead, Adam. I wanted to ask you,
you know, with the Raiders, Josh McDaniel's is you know
talking about he has no anxiety right now in regards
to the quarterback situation. Now, is that coach talk or
is he does he mean it?

Speaker 4 (57:57):
No?

Speaker 8 (57:59):
I mean when you look at Olden, when you look
at this situation with Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
They have the medical records, they know what happened.

Speaker 8 (58:06):
They know we needed a further procedure, though it was
by the way, he was not really expected the believers.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
The foot was.

Speaker 8 (58:13):
Healed, but it required more work and they had to
protect themselves. But they know that he's gonna be ready
for training camp. They've let everyone know this is not
a secret. Garoppol will be ready for training camp. But
that's not good when you're not available for your new
quarterback for this team. I know he knows the McDaniels
system due to their time together with the Patriots, but

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he's got to get his timing down here with DeVante Adams,
Hunter renfro they're tight end. They're rookie Tenan and Michael Mayer,
who they're expecting a lot of. Yeah, it's just not good.
It's it's like they can't get out of their own way.
I mean, last year was not a very good season
for the Raiders under Josh McDaniel's for his first year,
and you got this situation. You're just trying to move

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along here and get everything going. I know they're excited
about the draft that they had, but you've got this
situation hovering over their head. But yeah, he knows because
they have the medical records and they have the ability
to look at the scans, and they believe he's going
to be ready. And look, they've got Brian Hoyer, who
I'm told they try to actually sign last year and
Huier wanted to stay with the Patriots. Now he's there,
he'll take the first team reps. That's the way they'll

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do it until Garoppolo's ready.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
He's Adam Kaplan, FSR NFL insider joining us here. We
were talking about the SEC. They're going to eliminate divisions
next year in twenty twenty four. What would be your
level of interest in the NFL eliminating divisions? What do
you think the NFL's interest level would be in doing so?

Speaker 8 (59:37):
Don't see them doing it because, like as much as
I love the NBA, remember when Oldman was playing, they
probably were not they had divisions then, but remember they
moved from one to eight and one day eight in
each conference. It's still very exciting, but it takes away
sort of the jews for the divisional victories. I don't
see it in the NFL, guys, I just don't it's

(59:59):
really big for you to win your division because the
thing you don't want to take away is there's divisional
robberies of Philly, like Philly in Dallas, Filly in the Giants, Raiders,
Chiefs one of the best in NFL history. Now, I
grew up in Philly. If you want to look at
the NBA six or Celtics, it's not now. Plus the
teams always have not always been good at the same time.

(01:00:20):
We saw what happened this year. But yeah, it's kind
of what are down the NBA. You just don't want
to do that in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I don't see it. I just don't see that happening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Okay, Adam, here's one. Since you know you wrote inside
the Birds you're missed the Philadelphia mister Eagles, I get it.
And I got to go back to this. Whatever came
up about Russell Wilson to the Eagles. Yeah, yeah, how
serious was that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Is this you know somebody trying to get clickbait?

Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
No, Actually, here's what happened on my reporting on this
back in twenty twelve. The Eagles were actually going to
draft him. They foolishly thought that he would drop to
them where they were picking in the third round, the
Seahawks took him, and I know they were very upset.
I've talked to people were in the draft room then,
and they were beside themselves. They just stated, you know,
you don't know in a draft, no matter what sports

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you're in, you don't know what the people above you
are going to do. And Eagles were primed to take him,
and Seahawks beat him to it. Now, what happened last
year is they were on Deshaun Watson. He was not
interested coming to Philly. They were looking into Russell Wilson.
He was not interested in coming to Philly. He wanted
to stay out on the West Coast. He made it
very clear there are they could have been a bunch

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of teams involved trying to get Wilson, but to be
honest with you, he shut the talk down through his agent,
Mark Rodgers, and he just wanted to go to Denver.
Obviously looked bad last season, but I guy's got a
new head, coach's got a plan, and I got to
think Russell does bounce.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Back, you know, Adam, I want to circle back to
DeAndre Hopkins because it's mixed right now. There are some
executives who think he has a decent amount to offer
at this stage. There are some that are very skeptical.
Where do you think he he is in terms of
what he could bring to the table to a team
at this point.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
Yeah, again, it's a possession receiver now. Just looking at
the team's buffalo is not about the cap they just
did at Oliver's extension has going to do with the cap.
It's cash. It's Kansas City Buffalo and three or four
other teams that have interest.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
What are you willing to pay the guy? Now?

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
Hopkins just lost nineteen point nineteen point four or five million,
okay in cash that was not guaranteed. He's going to
want to come as close as he can and getting
that money back. And obviously he's not going to get
Beckham Junior's deal around fifteen million. I've said this since
he was cut when the Cardinals announced it, which was
a Friday afternoon news dump, we didn't see that coming. Then,

(01:02:40):
if he gets ten million in cash, I take that
deal based on where he's at now. He's not the
same player he once was. That's how the league sees it.
And by the way, if the league saw him as
a superstar still, he would have been signed a rate
and got a monster offer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Now here's the other thing on your question.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
What he's going to have to look at is what's
more important at potential Super Bowl or potentially signing for
a little bit more money with a worse teams that
could also happen in the next week or so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
All right, please Adam help me with something. I'm trying
to put this thing to bet once in fall because
I don't want to wake up every morning and hearing
there's a potential that Tom Brady's coming back. So what'll
what do you see?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:23):
Just a couple of things here which you're interesting on
this Brady situation. No, he was very emphatic in the
interview did with Sports Illustrated dot comby's I'm playing again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
He's done. But here's the thing I don't quite understand.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Why is he not working till twenty twenty four for
Fox doing games, which is a little bit odd to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Why does he taking another year off? So that's that's
that's one thing.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
But the fact of the matter is, and most people
don't know this, but I could tell you if I'm
doing reporting on this. In twenty twenty, the Raiders were
going to pursue Brady. And what happened was they before
he went to the Bucks, they were not comfortable with
what he was asking for so much money, with some other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Perks and so forth, so they backed off. Then here
we are.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
He's going to be a minority over the Raiders, very
small part of it, but not play.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
He's just not He doesn't want to play.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
He's made it pretty clear putting that video on, this
video that just came out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
I mean, I don't know what else he has to do.

Speaker 8 (01:04:17):
I've doubted him sometimes and I've been turned out to
be right. But this time I'm going to accept his Hey,
I'm done playing. And by the way, he can play
once the minority deals official, but it goes to NFL
vote for him to be able to play. Three quarters
of the of the ownership have to vote and pass
him to play.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
It would be bizarre, by the way, it would be
very weird to see that. You know, Adam, before you go,
I always love throwing you a non football question. You know.
It's kind of like my off speed pitch. Just don't
ask me hockey. I'm not a hockey. Yeah, all right,
not paying attention, that's fine. How about the NBA Finals
over here. You what's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
Well, I'm really happy because a guy I grew up with,
Jimmy Klebanoff, is the Denver Nuggets director of scouting and
he was heavily involved in the Joker acquisition.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
You know Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yeah, I grew up with him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Oh my god, dear friend of mine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Isn't that crazy? I'll text the way you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Oh my, please, we got to send you my number.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:05:15):
Yeah, it isn't crazy. So, Alton, here's the crazy thing.
I don't know how I okay, So, I don't know
how long you've known him. But the craziest thing about him,
him and his brother, Kevin Klebenoff, they were hockey guys
growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
They played ice hockey here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
I was a hockey manager there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
So Jimmy took over a draft publication. I to try
to help Jimmy out when he was doing media stuff.
And then all of a sudden, I see him. He's
working in the NBA. And as you old and as
you very well know as a friend of his, I mean,
it's been one of the most remarkable stories. Great guy,
great family man, and I'm so happy for him. So
obviously I'm rooting for Denver. The Miami story Brian is

(01:05:55):
ridiculously amazing. I'm blown away by it. I mean, I
pick against him every series. Yeah, I've been wrong, and
I'm picking against him again. Obviously I knew it's right
about that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I think we're going to be right about this one.
But I've been wrong about at least I think, well,
I've I've been wrong about everybody except the Knicks. I
had them beating the Knicks, but I had them losing
the other real quick, Olden, how do you know Jimmy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Oh my god, from way back in the days from
basketball hanging out? Okay, we met through another mutual friend
years ago. I'm talking about years and years ago, and
we just clicked. Me of the greatest is It's funny.
It's crazy we lost touch. I didn't even realize he
was there.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
I will I will text, I will text him. Yeah,
he's a director, scouting. I'll tell that was his last title.
He might have got a promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I have to. I have to look at their website
or something.

Speaker 8 (01:06:49):
He's heavily involved in the lots because back here in Philly,
because of what he's done A lot's been said and
written about him lately.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
It's a pretty cool story. That's awesome, man. Well thanks
for sharing that with us, Adam. I don't know where
you go.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
Yeah, because I'm a Jimmy and I were hoops guys
sort of growing up too, and I used to we
used to hang out in the nineties together and uh
talk with a lot of hoops and who knew.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I had one last one for Adam, right quick?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
You started football injuries right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
With Jake Lazer, Yes, another guy. Yeah, I was a
partner in it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Yes, I want to help me start basketball injuries.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
Yeah, well I can help you. Sure is there anything
out there like it? Because the only problem is because
of the inner you know, because of Twitter and stuff,
this stuff gets out there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Uh huh. But I do think they have something comparable.
I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It won't be like what I would do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
By the way, I'm gonnahit you up on Twitter, I'll
follow you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:42):
What we'll talk, Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
See small world, many small world f s R NFL Insider,
your guy world. So your guy is he's yet you
said he's even realized.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
No, he's not a high but he.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Isn't a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah big I guy played and all that stuff. And
then when we met, you know, we were talking about hockey,
and I knew the national anthem, you know, like the
Canadian national anthem because I grew up, you know, I
was a big hockey fan in New York City, you know,
with the ragers in Irelanders and everything else. Then I
became the hockey manager, you know, because I didn't play sports.

(01:08:23):
I didn't play in high school at the time. I
didn't start playing until my sophomore year. So freshman year,
I'm the hockey manager. And so I was telling him
these stories about me and how much I love hockey,
and a friendship developed, and so he was, oh, my goodness,
this is crazy how this happened.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
That's funny that of all people, he mentioned that guy exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
That's why I'm like, the world is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Well, you know it's just gonna get more amazing, as
we invited Nick Kope to spin us around the sports
world here. Now, first off, Nick, are you a guy?
When do you we toothbrush before or after the toothpaste?
Is what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
I go after the toothpaste after it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Just like Golden Half.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Yep, I go, I go out, don't. I don't need
that much water. I just so just get a little
bit on there and we're good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
That makes sense. I go before and after. I'm crazy
like I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Yeah, I don't think there's a wrong answer here. I
think I think we're all good. As long as we're
brushing our teeth, we're in a good spot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
You don't want the guy that says I don't brush
at all. So that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
At the end of the day, you brush your teeth, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
And flossing that huge on flossie. I need to get
none in the habit of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah, Yeah, it's not fun.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
Anyways, guys, we got Game two of the NBA Finals
just about an hour and a half away, Nuggets with
the one ozero series lead on the heat. Miami announced
a little while ago Caleb Martin is available tonight despite
missing practice yesterday dude to illness. Tyler Hero has been
ruled out with that hand injury. In baseball, we got
three games going on right now. Cubs are blown out

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the Padres seven to one, the only in the third inning.
Chicago's already hit three home runs. Diamondbacks holding onto a
five to four lead against the Braves, and the Orioles
are on the verge of closing out the Giants seven
to three in favor of Baltimore in the ninth inning finals.
Earlier in baseball, Rays now a big league best forty
two to nineteen. They beat the Red Sox six to two.

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Blue Jays have won six of seven six to four.
They get to win over the Mets, Angels two to
one over the Astros on the road in Houston. We
had a walk off earlier in Chicago, the White Sox
taking care of the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
One oh swung on and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Lifted in the left. This is kinda lit it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
It's a great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Sap the Jake Berger.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
He got it all and just over the.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Law a line drive that he went down and got
a curve ball that might have been below the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Knee caps six to two.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
The win for the White Sox at audio courtesy of
the White Sox Radio Network. Brewers won their third straight
against the Reds five to one. Pirates over the Cardinals
two to one, Royal shout out the Rockies two zip.
Guardians hung on for a two to one win. Over
the Twins, Fluey Phillies blew out the Nationals eleven to three,
Marlins overcame a four run deficit for a seven to
five win over the A's, and the Rangers blew out

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the Mariners twelve to three. Quickly to golf. It went
to a playoff at the Memorial Tournament. Victor Hovelin wins
it over Denny McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Tough break for mccarthury.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
You held the lead pretty much the whole day, but
then he bogie the eighteenth to set up the playoff,
and then it's Hovelin winning the tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Guys, back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
It's no good to bogie the eighteen. Not good at all,
got a one stroke lead, and all of a sudden
you're in a playoff. Not good, not good, but good stuff.
Nick Cope always Hey, it's up, Brian Noan Olden Polonies
here on Fox Sports Radio. What to welcome our new
listeners Olden Pioria's Sports Radio one oh one point. They
are now in the FSR family fantasm right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
There, welcome. There's Chicago affiliate, right, I mean the White Sox.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they do have the White Sox.
So you would have heard that game on a sports
radio one oh one point one in Beoria today.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
You know it was my Yankees beat on We're good?

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
What How crazy was it with Aaron Judge going through
the wall last night as he made a catch.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Hey, that's what we do. I'm still mad about the
first game, though, I'm glad we wanted yesterday, but I'm
still mad that first inning was horrible.

Speaker 9 (01:12:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I'm still mad about the last two games because I
bet the under in both games and the Dodgers went
ballistic in the first inning a couple of days ago,
and then yesterday, Olden I had it under eight and
a half and there is a solo homer in the
ninth to get it to six to three, where I
just bait. I got hooked. I got hooked by the

(01:12:51):
solo shot in the ninth inn.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
That's why I don't bet sports.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, you might be better off. You might be better
off there. Yeah. As far as uh how about Adam
Kaplan says the NFL really not open minded when it
comes to potentially eliminating divisions. And I get it. They
like the structure of it. The one thing about parody
in the NFL. If you have divisions I think it

(01:13:18):
lends itself to a little more parody where you have
that first place schedule for a team, so you play
a couple of games against other first place teams. That's hard,
it's hard to run the table if you're a last
place team. When you play a last place schedule, you
get a couple of games against teams that finished in
the basement the year before. So if you eliminate divisions,

(01:13:40):
you couldn't do it the same way, so you can't
get it perfect. But I'm just surprised that Adam said
the NFL would have no interest as far as that goes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Yeah, and I can see that only because there's a
lot of history with a lot of these teams show
like the Cowboys, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys, Red Well no
Redskins and Commanders. I gotta think about it. For me,
they're still going to be the Redskins to me, no
disrespect to anybody out there, but you know, you had

(01:14:10):
all that history, you know, and so to me, that
makes sense having these divisions. But again, I would love
to see just the top teams make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Yeah, I think you can still have the rivalries if
you eliminate divisions. You know, I'm fine. I'm not going
to keep me up at night. I'm cool with the divisions.
But it's not like the rivalries would go away.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I agree. I totally agree with you. The Ribbies won't
go away the division again. My pet peeve is people
being rewarded like the eight and nine baby Buge is
getting rewarded for bad play or bad record based on
the fact that you're in a weak division.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
I know it. To get a home playoff game is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Well keep the division and say you know you have
there's a certain the wins you gotta have. I don't know,
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Or you just seed everybody you see them on record
that you just do it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I like that one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, you could easily do that all right. Coming up next,
a man who is suspicious about a potential phenom. We'll
have details for you. I'm Brian Know he's Olden Polonies.
Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
Brian Know he's Olden POLONIESE here on Fox Sports Radio.
We're coming to you live from the tirec dot Com studios.

(01:15:34):
So I saw a highlight today, Olden of your guy
Victor Wembin Yama. It's hilarious timing, you know how the
how life works where uh. I just saw this video
and he was making a two handed block at the
at the rim, I think in the French League is
very nice play, and I immediately thought of one person.

(01:15:57):
It was you, mister Olden Poul, Who is I think
the one dude not drinking the kool aid on this
guy potentially being a phenom over here? Have you stuck
to your guns as of right now?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I am definitely sticking to my guns, and I hope
people understand I'm not hating on this young man. I
wish him all the best. But in my forty plus
years of basketball, I've seen quite a few players, and
I think what's bothering me is the narratives that I'm
hearing more than anything else. Plus I'm seeing him myself.

(01:16:32):
I'm not just watching highlights. I'm actually looking at game
films from the French Division and when he plays against
the better players, and I'm seeing what's happened to him.
And one of the things that stood out to me
was a game he played against Kenneth Loughton, who is

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a member of the Memphis Grizzy I think he was
like a two way player for a while and then
they brought him up and he's really very heavy stout individual.
But what he did to when Banyama was so embarrassing.
And I'm saying to myself, so, Kenneth Loughton is doing
this to you, what do you think Joker is gonna do?

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Or Embiid or Yannis or Anthony Davis. And so to me,
that stood out more than anything else. And again, the
videos I've seen of his games against the better players,
he's over matched. He just dominated. So I don't want
to watch, you know, a couple of highlights, you know, yeah,
we all can put up highlight I can put up

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a highlight tape of me right now. That would make
teams wonder, man, should we bring this guy in for work?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
It like dude perfect, never missed a shot, or you know,
it seems like that on the highlights. But you know
what's interesting, it makes me think of this olden is
honestly speaking, which would you say is harder to break
into just the NBA right now?

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Is it being a big man?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
And we see Joker, we see Yannis, we see him
be The list goes on and on. Is it to
be a big man like wm bin Yama or just
a big man in general, because we know he has
to put on a lot of weight. Or would it
be a point guard and we know the depth at
all these great point guards around the NBA, which you
think is a harder transition and to get used to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I think being a point guard. Yeah, because the point
guard you have to be ready right away because you know,
you're the leader and everything else. Whereas a big guy
like a Way Miyama, there's the whole you gotta give
him time to develop. Perfect example is James Wiseman. The
Warriors of all people gave up on him. I still
don't know why. You know, this kid's barely twenty years old.

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How do you give up on a talent like that?
You know, you develop the talent, you don't give up
on them. So the big guys have that luxury and
the point guards are gods in general. No, you got
to come ready to play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
You know. There was something that Yannis said about Victor Wembinyama.
He was on with Serjabaka. Serjabaka has this show How
Hungry Are You? So they're talking chef stuff and you know,
hoops in life and all that type of stuff. And
this is what Yannis said about wem Bin Yama.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
He can block shot like Rudy, but shoot like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
KD blocking shots like Rudy Gobert and shoot like Kevin Durant.
And then he closed it like this, bro crazy crazy.
So Yiannis is a believer. He thinks that Wemby can
be the next big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
They have to they in the game right now. They
have to do that, you know, just like when Lebron
Andad met him. You know, oh my god, all the
accolades were going out there again. I'm okay with all that,
yeh get but I'm gonna end up being right at
the end of the day. Trust me on this. I
know basketball. These guys are doing this stuff for whatever

(01:19:58):
for you know, because I'm not trying to get knocked
you know, They're gonna be labeled as haters because they
current players. I'm out the game. I can be more objective,
and I am being objective because, like I said, I've
seen so many of his games and I've seen this
movie before.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Brian, So what's the official prediction? Is this like the
first three years he struggles more than people believed. Is
this a career thing. Where do you put that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
I think the only thing that helps him is the
fact that he's with the San Antonio Spurs. If he
had ended up in a different organization, it would be
a lot longer, and I would be borderline bust. I'm serious,
I would be thinking that because but with the Sanatoi Spurs,
he's going to have an opportunity to develop.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Okay, might not be the best beginning, but develops and
eventually gets there, but a slower start than many are anticipating.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Now, he's not gonna be the greatest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Okay, all right, coming up next countdown to tip off?
What are we gonna see tonight? We compare notes around
the corner?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
But are we in store? Four?

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
We will compare notes? Is game two just around the corner.
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(01:21:26):
the heat. What are we in store for it? There
are a couple of things I think we're in store
for here, Olden, I think you're gonna see more scoring
from Yokich. He scored twenty seven points on twelve shots
in Game one, very efficient. I think that he's gonna
score more tonight. You give me your thumbs up on that.
You think we're in store for more than twenty seven
this evening?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yeah, but it won't be that much more. Maybe thirty two,
thirty five right around there. Yeah, I think it'll be
more spread out throughout the game as opposed to mostly
in the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Will there'd be another triple double? He's got nine in
this postseason alone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Hey, I'm going with the triple double things at.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
It's hard to see him not with Like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
When was how about this? When's the last game he
didn't have one?

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
That's what we need to be asking right now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Okay, I know we're going to see more from Jimmy
Butler tonight. He's gonna score more than than thirteen points
on fourteen shots. He was not himself in Game one.
It's weird because we know Jimmy Butler has largely been
a beast in these playoffs, but he's had a couple
of games where You're like, what's he doing right now?
I think sometimes he can like, uh, he can spread

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the wealth to a fault.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
To a fault.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yes, yeah, he's got to be more agress.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Totally agree. I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah, more than thirteen tonight. Though, for Jimmy, what do
you think, what do you gauge what his stat line
might look like? What do you think here?

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Well, and it becomes a problem for Miami. If Jimmy
gets thirty five, they're gonna get blown out, blown out.
And so because now you're making you one on five,
the Nuggets are gonna be spreading it out. So Jimmy's
gonna need help. You know. Cayler Martin has to play

(01:23:20):
the way he did against the Celtics. You know, everybody
was talking about Kyler Martin, Kyler Martin, and then that
again the lights were too bright in Game one. He
and Max Strews both as well as Duncan Robinson. So
you got three guys that really carried your team past
the Celtics they didn't show up. Yeah, those are the

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guys I'm more concerned about Jimmy. Butler's gonna get his points.
He's gonna do what Jimmy Butler does. But you know,
nobody wins a game by themselves. I used to tell
people this all the time when we played, like say,
like with Jordan, a lot of teams. You know, they
were like, our main concern is the other players. We

(01:24:03):
don't care if Mike gets forty to fifty, let them
and then we stop the guys we know we can
stop right right, and that's it, and just limit them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
That was the opposite of Miami's approach in game one,
and I wonder if they do what you're talking about
in game two and beyond, because hey, if Jokic gets
his he's a back to back MVP for a reason,
right he's, for my money, the best player in the
NBA right now. But you can't allow Aaron Gordon to

(01:24:36):
get all those points in the first quarter. You can't
allow the role players to get into a rhythm. And
they they were relatively held in check because they didn't
shoot it well from three. But I think that you
got to live with Jokic being a scorer. I'd rather
him be a scorer than a facilitator and get everybody
involved because he's such a great passer and he makes

(01:24:59):
a role player like Gordon who's not this offensive weapon.
But Jokic will thread the needle and put him in
a great spot where it's like he's gonna finish no
problem if Gabe Vincent is defending him. So I think
he got a double jokicic less and make him more
of a scorer than a passer.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
I definitely believe that. And you know it's the old
saying Mike Tyson had. Everybody has a plan to they
get punched in the mouth, and so the Miami Heat
had that plan. That was the game plan, but they
got punched in the mouth because they forgot one thing.
All lineup has to be different. Okay, number one, I
cannot have Gay Vincent on Aaron Gordon. And number two, yeah,

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they forgot the Nuggets are bigger than they are. So
the plan went out the window because the starting five
that they had out there on the court, they thought
it was still the Boston Celtics. Yeah, it's like, but
now if you make the change that you need to make,
put a bigger body on Aaron Gordon. What's Aaron Gordon
gunna do. He's gonna pull you outside now, mm hmm.

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So advantage Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah, they're gonna get some open shots. They're gonna consistently
get open shots in the series. Yes, I just think
this is gonna be a higher scoring game, Olden. I
look at Game one where there was a little bit,
a little bit of Denver rust after nine days off,
they didn't shoot it well. From three. You talked about
some of the role players of Miami where the stage
is bigger, the lights are brighter. Right, these are the

(01:26:26):
NBA Finals and they just had this dogfight of a
seven game series against Boston. So I think that you know,
in Miami plays better when they are significantly you know,
counted out, when their backs are against the wall, that
type of thing, when they're in that underdog role. Man,
they are absolutely in a mega underdog role here and

(01:26:48):
being down one nothing in the series, I think Miami
plays a whole lot better. I think we see a
lot more shot making tonight than we did in Game one.
I think it's a higher scoring game. If you're looking
at the gambling line over here, old and the total
is two sixteen and a half, it's been steadily climbing.
I still like the over in this one. I think
there are gonna be a lot more shots being made.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Well, I'll leave the gambling aspect to you. But I
do believe one of the things that I have. Yes,
you know, they've been counted out and they bounced back
from all these you know, like with Milwaukee, Well, Jannis
got hurt and when he came back, they were still
in disarray. Because again we spoke about this earlier. I

(01:27:30):
don't think Butenholzer was in the right frame of mind
to be there, you know, as a coach, with what
happened to him personally, you know, So again, condolences to
him on that. I just don't think. And the Milwaukee
Bucks are built differently. You know, Yannis wants to stand
outside and shoot three pointers. I'm letting him. And then

(01:27:52):
all of a sudden, what happened with them is that
everybody thought they could carry the load themselves. Then they
went into Boston and won the first two games in Boston.
Because you're playing a team that's not the brightest, you know,
call the Svader Spade. They're not the brightest team in basketball.

(01:28:12):
Right after my second turnover, if I'm jailing Brown, I'm
not putting the ball down with my left hand anymore, right,
I just got to make these corrections and these changes
for my team.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
What did stan Van say where it's like if you
get Jalen going to his left. I can't remember exactly
how he said it, but he's like, that could be
good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Yeah, Jailing Brown is the only player that could be
good for both teams. Yeah. Oh, he could be bad
for both teams. So either way he can he determines
the outcome of the game for both teams. How is
that possible for a guy to be like that? That's
the way to me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Here's something funny. This goes back to the Eastern Conference
Finals where we're talking about Boston against Miami and Jimmy
Butler got a funny DM, got a great direct message
from a fan and listen to this. Maybe it needs
another DM now that the NBA Finals are here, but
here we go, we revert back to the Eastern Conference Finals. Now, Jimmy,

(01:29:13):
I don't usually do this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I don't go in people's DM, celebrity dms, you know,
people that are higher up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
In big So Jimmy put out a video of him
reacting to that and just kind of laughing and nodding

(01:29:41):
his head like yeah, we'll get it done. And they did.
So that's the thing is is there an overreaction? I
think there is. After Game one, Miami did not play
well at all, but only two attempted free throws. That's
an NBA playoff low. Think about that. All these NBA
playoff game that's the lowest amount of free throw attempts. Ever,

(01:30:03):
I think you're gonna see a much more aggressive Miami
Heat team. And although I think Denver's gonna win the series,
I just do not see it being the cakewalk that
a lot of people are saying it's gonna be. I
just think Miami is too gritty for that to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Miami can be gritty all they want to be. They
are not better than the Deva Nuggets, That's all I'm saying.
So there's no overreaction here because I've seen both teams
play throughout the year. Literally, I watch a thousand games easy,
I watch a thousand games, and I've seen these teams.
I've seen them. I know what Miami was doing at

(01:30:40):
the beginning of the season, lowest scoring team in the league.
I get that. So they basically playing over their heads
right now because I'm still gonna go back to what
you did throughout the season. That's who you really are
the Denver Nuggets have been this consistent team the whole year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I get that too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Just started picking it up, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
And that's what's crazy is offensively, you hit on it.
What Miami did from three In the regular season, they
were I think they were twenty seventh in three point shooting.
They were first throughout most of this postseason. They might
still be there. I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
That's the overreaction, is what what's the over that thinking
that they're gonna keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Well, yeah, that's the thing is, but it's not just
one series. If it's one series and hey, your lights
out against the Bucks, Okay, it's been three series. Yeah,
where they've been the top team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
And they played against they had situations happening with all
those series. But guess what now they're playing against a
team team. They're not playing against individuals, you know, and
we need to remember that the Boston Celtics are a
bunch of individuals that happened to make some shots in
a couple of games and then they got it to

(01:31:57):
a six to six, I mean to a three to
three time and lost in Game seven. You know, I
believe the Milwaukee Bucks did the same thing. They became
a bunch of individuals trying to make it happen all
at once. When they got down, and I think when
they lost home court advantage, they lost focus again. The
Denver Nuggas have been doing this for the whole year.

(01:32:18):
They've been a team and the number one person is
Jokics and Jamal Murray. Those two guys have led them.
They are continuing to leave them. And as long as
you have guys like that that are really they both
could be selfish if they want to be, and they
choosing not to be right and they right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
I'll make it comparison here. I think you'll buy this.
I'm not sure, but I'm anticipating some buying for mister
Olden Polonies. Think about this. Boston has top talent, but
they don't play great as a team. Miami doesn't have
top talent, you know, roster wise, but they play great
as a team. Denver Bryan both Denver has top talent

(01:33:05):
and they play as a team.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Yeah, I'm buying that all the way. And that's exactly
what it is. That and and that's where Miami's gonna
falter because now you're playing the team with the top
talent playing as a team and they like each other
and they're having fun and they have home Cournan.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
I'm still with Denver to win the series. Don't get
me wrong, but I just don't see it being this
walk in the park that a lot of people are thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
It's not gonna be a walk in the park. It's
just gonna be a sweep.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
A non walk in the box sweep is what's gonna happen. Oh,
that's unfortunate. As the Atlanta Braves down to their final
out just hit a grand slam. I might have had
some cash on the Arizona Diamondbacks. Might. I can't confirm
or deny that, old and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
I'm sorry for you. You know what, Brian, what's that?
You might want to stop?

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
You know what's funny is I need to tell you
about the bets I get right as well, because I
have this bad habit of talking about whatever doesn't work.
There's been some winning bets today night you poker, I do?
I love it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Okay, so I'm a poker play as well. We all
have a bad beat story, right, Oh yeah, we all.
Everybody has a bad beat story.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Oh yes, we all have those, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Coming up next. Making the absolute best out of a
tough situation. I'm Brian No. He's holding polonies keep it
locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. He's holding polonese
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our new listeners on Pierre Pioria's Sports Radio one oh

(01:34:50):
one point one. They joined the Fox Sports Radio family.
They're just down the road right here. I'm running a
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I might just drive by after you know, game two
and just stick my head out the window, like Pioria
Sports Radio one on one one. You know, I don't know,
might do that a little bit later tonight, you know.

(01:35:12):
Cross that off the list. But welcome to the Fox
Sports Radio family. How about this one? Making the best
out of a really difficult situation. Bill's safety DeMar Hamlin
So he was the guy who suffered cardiac arrest on
the field during a Bill's Bengals game last year. Well,
he spent a couple of days in the hospital critical condition.

(01:35:35):
He's gotten out of the hospital. Things are getting better.
He's trying to make a comeback as a player right now.
But he has launched a tour to educate others in resuscitation.
Right we're talking CPR training here, and so he's teaching
kids how to how to do it correctly. And I
just think that's awesome, man, where he has not only

(01:35:56):
taken this setback to say the least, it almost cost
him his life, and he has turned it into an
absolute positive. I take my head off to the guy.
I think that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Oh, definitely. Anytime you can use a situation like that
and make it a positive, kudos to you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Yeah. And he's got his foundation and remember when they
had the toy drive and when he was in the hospital,
there were over nine million dollars worth in donations, and
so I'm kind.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Of like, not to cut you off, but that kind
of like bothers me in a way, does it. He's
had the foundation right for a while, and it took
him almost dying for people to donate. Yeah, you know,
that's that's some weird that's I don't know, it's that's
always bothered me in the grand scheme of things within
this world and this society, how we do things, you know,

(01:36:47):
It's like and I don't wish bad on nobody. But
it shouldn't take a near death experience for you to
be altruistic.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Now I get where you're coming from on that. You can, Hey,
you can be generous and donate without that happening. Exactly
you should. Yeah, how about this too if we shifted
over to Yannis. So I just thought about Yanis in
one of his comments. Remember when the Bucks got bounced
by the Miami Heat and Yana said.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
This, there's no failure in sports.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
He said, there's no failure and this was the other quote.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
It's not the failure, it steps to success.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Okay, So he didn't call the Bucks losing in the
first round to the eight seed Miami Heat a failure.
He says it steps to success. I disagree with that.
I would call it a failure. Would you would you, Olden?
Would you say the Bucks losing in round one is
a failure.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Big failure, failure with an asterisk though because of the
injury and everything else. Yeah, but it was a failure.
And I understand where he was coming from. It is
a great sound bite and it works well, works well
for others, you know, living life, you know that might
be struggling with stuff, and it's a great SoundBite. You know,

(01:38:03):
it's a great mantra. There's no such thing as failure,
there's steps. I always tell people this, I've never lost
the game, even like when I played chess. When I played,
I don't lose. I learned. You know, I either win
or I learn. So it's along those lines. But it's
a failure. Why you've already known the taste of success

(01:38:23):
with the championship. You know exactly what you had to
do to get there when you won. So if you
and you the number one seed, so if you don't
follow through, it's a failure.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
It absolutely is. It can be both. Like I I
look at the Bucks. They absolutely failed even though Giannis
was out for two and a half games, and that
has to be taken into account. They had the shortest
odds to win the championship this year, and they were
the team that was not only a one seed in
the East, they had the best record in the entire

(01:38:56):
NBA yep, and they lost in a gentleman They lost
in five to Miami. So that is textbook failure right there.
But it can also be a step towards success. It
can be both, but you don't have to sugarcoat what
is an obvious failure into it wasn't. But what I

(01:39:16):
thought was, if we expand this to the rest of
the playoffs, right, which other teams would you point out
and say they failed? How about the Boston Celtics. They
get to a Game seven against Miami, they win three
games in a row to even the series. They're back
at home and they get absolutely crushed by nineteen points.

(01:39:37):
That's a failure too in my book, for big failure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Yeah, don't get us all the way to game seven
and lay that egg. Yeah, all those guys, Malcolm Brogdon,
Grant Williams. The only person I thought that played decent
was on Rob Williams. Robert Williams. You know, at least
he was out there trying his best. You know, I
think he's very limited on a lot of things, but

(01:40:01):
he was trying his hardest. And I give shot outs
to Jason Tatum for playing through that painful ankle injury
because that was a bad one. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
How about this one too, the Sixers. The Sixers go
up three to two on Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
You mental failure.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
They are right, they're at home, they have a lead
in the fourth quarter. Jason Tatum the first three quarters,
cannot hit a shot. He was one for twelve or
one for thirteen in the first three quarters, and then
Tatum himself outscores the sixers in the fourth quarter, and
then Philly goes on to get blasted in Game seven.

(01:40:37):
Epic failure by Philly as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Definitely, And that's on coaching. That's coaching staff. All y'all
gotta come together and figure out a game plan the
last quarter to figure out how we gonna stop this guy. Okay,
we gotta make some changes, we gotta make some substitutions something.
I'm not giving up a three to one lead. But
apparently that's you know, that's Doc riversm he's you that

(01:41:00):
and so to me, that's a huge monumental failure.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Yeah, I've got two others on my list. I don't
know if your failure list is more extensive than mine.
But I've also got the Phoenix Suns. They got to
be on the list. I know KD wasn't there for
very long, and they haven't established great chemistry and continuity
and all those things. And I know that Chris Paul
was injured. I know that, But they're talented enough to

(01:41:26):
not get blasted by twenty five at home, even by
the Denver Nuggets, who are probably gonna win a championship
over here, to lose by twenty five, Let's not act
like they're don't have playmakers. Kd and Devin Booker are
two of the best players on the planet and they
did not shoot well at all in game six. To
get run like that by twenty five, you can't just

(01:41:46):
fire the head coach and shrug your shoulders and say, oh,
there are no failures in sports.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
No, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
It was a failure. You have to call it what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
That one. I'm a little onto steps. There's steps to that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
One steps to success, so that one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Steps to success on that one. Again, to what you
pointed out, Katie came in the middle of the season,
and so you got to take that into account. These guys,
we can be friendly and everything else and compete, but
until you go through a training camp and hang out
and all that stuff, you really don't know people's tendencies.

(01:42:22):
You don't know any of that stuff. And so to me,
that was a big part of it. Chris Paul getting hurt,
But the biggest problem for Phoenix was not scoring or
DeAndre Aden or anything else. They gave up too much
for Kevin Durant. Yeah, well that's all Bridges and camp
Johnson was just too much.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Well and then what the four first round picks, and
they gave up so much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
You gave up that length the defense, You gave up
your heart and soul.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Right, But that's how I look at it is you're
not making that deal and being cool with getting blasted
in games of the second round, you know what I mean?
You make that deal because you want a ring, and
so I just chalk it up to that. I know
it's there. There's an asterisk, and there's some explaining as

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to how it unfolded the way that it did. But yeah,
when you're getting Kevin Durant and paying that price tag,
you want to go a lot further than round two
of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Oh definitely. You know, one of the things I always
say is this, and I've been saying this for several years,
and he keeps proving me right. Do you know I
don't need to watch I don't need the sun going down.
I don't need any of us up to know what
time of year it is. All I gotta do is
see if Chris Paul is playing on that. I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
You're like, must be either May or June.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
You know exactly what time of the year. It is. Fortunately,
great player, but it's unfortunate how this always happens.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Yeah, it is one more on my list. You gotta
look at the Memrizzlies. I mean, come on, I know
that they didn't have Steven Adams. I know they didn't
have Brandon Clark. Okay, I got it. But to lose
by forty points in the first round against the Lakers
when Jahn Morant earlier in the year said, nah, I'm

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fine in the West, and they lose in the first
round in an elimination game by forty and then we
get that on the heels of the first gun incident
and the second gun incident, that that is an epic, colossal,
like top shell failure by the Memphis Grizzlies.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
That one I'm giving both of them. I'm giving them
steps to success and also a huge failure the steps
of success. You cannot be flashing a gun in a
club and getting suspended and think you're gonna win. You
cannot talk trash to people okay that are top five

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all times and think you're gonna win, especially when you
don't show up to defend that guy. Okay, you don't
do these things. You know, when two of your top
players go out, you don't compound it by thinking, oh,
I can just keep jacking up shots when my two

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best offensive rebounders aren't even in the game anymore. And
so to me, there were steps that they took, but
it was a monumental failure for the whole team. And
I'm talking about management, coaching, all of that. That was
a monumental failure on their part.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
How about this, two more teams to throw out their
rapid fire style Sacramento Kings. I can't go with failure
there because she's successful. You're a three seed in the West.
I know you took the Warriors to a game seven,
you lost by twenty. Very disappointing. I just I wouldn't
have that. Yeah, like the beam was a whole phenomenon

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throughout the season. That that was all a great, great
step in the right direction by the Kings. But how
about the flip side. How about the Warriors. They're the
defending champions. They got smacked around pretty good by the
Lakers in the playoffs. They only make it to round two.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Yeah, huge failure. Gotta be a failure, huge failure. They
already know how to win. Yeah, that's the one thing
about the Warriors. They know how to win. Now, whether
they do it on a consistent basis, that's on them.
Like with the turnovers, that's just bad basketball, you know,
that's careless basketball. But that was a monument of failure
for them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
So I'm counting this up real faster. Let me see
on my list they got one, two, three, four, or
five six teams that all had big failures in just
this postseason alone. So yet failure absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
And they need to be honest about it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
They gotta be.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Yeah. I think sometimes if you sugarcoat failure, I think
that can get in your way of success exactly. I
think you just got to own it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Like you said it earlier. With the Warriors, they're trying to,
you know, make up an excuse. Yeah, I believe. Oh
it was the punch no, no, you're not good enough,
you're not big enough.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Yeah, right. I think it was Klay Thompson that said
before the playoffs, I don't think anybody can beat us
when we're healthy. And it's like you guys were healthy,
yeah and you lost.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
They weren't big.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Yeah, nope, nope, that length, that Laker's length is a
real problem. All right. Somebody who's not a problem whatsoever.
He's actually an asset. He's a kind man as well.
That would be Nick Cope. Who's with us? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Nick?

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
All right, guys, we got about thirty minutes until we
get to Game two of the Finals between the Heat
and the Nuggets. A one to oh series lead for Denver.
God word, Kevin Love is gonna start Game two tonight
and Martin I told you the Love did not play
in Game one, as we know. And Caleb Martin missedpracticed

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yesterday with an illness. About an hour and a half ago.
The Heat announced he is available, but he will have
to come off the bench. Also, Tyler Hero has been
rolled out, So yes, Kevin Love in this arading lineup.
Chance to get some more size on the court. So
we'll get your guys reaction to that quickly. I'll go
to baseball here though. We got a couple games going

(01:48:09):
on currently, Cubs trying to close out the Padres heading
to the eighth inning in San Diego. It's been all
Chicago today, seven to one in favor of the Cubs.
Yankees and Dodgers are in the second inning, no score.
We had a game, just go final moments to go,
Diamondbacks and Braves to the best teams in the National League.
D Backs leading by a run, bases loaded, and Atlanta

(01:48:31):
down to their final out.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
And this happened.

Speaker 9 (01:48:33):
What oh bitch on the way, swung on an apply
on a right field going back now Smith, Smith's at
the wall, grit slam, gret slam. Rosario with a huge
homer and the Braves take the lead.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Hey, no, Nick, I'm gonna guess that wasn't the Diamondbacks radio.

Speaker 6 (01:48:54):
That was not No, that would be courtesy of the
Braves radio network. There Eddie Rosario putting Atlanta for good.
Eight to five is the final score. Some other finals
to tell you about. Rays now forty two and nineteen,
best record in the Big League, six to two over
the Red Sox Blue Jays. They're on a little roll
right now. They've won six of seven. They beat the
Mets today six to four. Angels got a tight road

(01:49:17):
win against the Astros two to one. White Sox walked
off the Tigers six to two. Pirates first game of
the day, they were two to one winners over the Cardinals.
Royals shout out the Rockies two zip. Brewers won their
third straight against the Reds five to one. The final
in Cincinnati, Guardians hung on for a two to one
win over the Twins. Phillies blew out the Nationals. Kyle
Schwarber homer twice. He's now got fifteen at long balls

(01:49:40):
on the air, eleven to three. The final there, Marlins
overcame a four run deficit, beat the a seven to five.
Rangers all over the Mariners twelve to three. Finally, Orioles
handled the Giants eight to three. French Open Novak Djokovic
Carlos Alkraz each one in straight sets. They're into the
quarterfinals and golf Victor Hovelin won the Memorial Tournament in

(01:50:00):
a playoff over Jenny McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
Guys, back to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
You, Thanks Nick, I'm Brian No, he's olden Polonies here
on Fox Sports Radio. Man, how about that Kevin Love
starting in place of Caleb Martin. I knew it, you
knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Huh Yeah, I'd tell you they had to go big. Yeah,
Devon was gonna do the same thing again. Put Aaron
Gordon down low.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
And you're gonna see Caleb Caleb Love. Kevin Love at
times on Joki.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Yeah, I put him on him, but it's not gonna
be effected because he's not tall enough. And so to me,
that's what I said, This is exactly what Denver wants.
They wanted you to make that change and bring Kevin
Love out of there. Yes, he can knock down some
three pointers and he can rebound, but I'm telling you
Denver wants this well.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
And that's the thing is you saw the Lakers do
this where they put Rui Hachimura on Jokic and Anthony Davis.
He's a great rover, he's a great shot blocker. He
can kind of roam around. And that's not Bam out
of Baio. BAM's six ' nine. You know, he's not
gonna be a rover like a d is Well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
He's not. And the problem with Bam out of Bio
is that he's not always engaged, you know. And that's tough,
you know, because to me, I've said this before. As
Bam out of Bayo goes, so does the Miami Heat,
more so than Jimmy Butler. But it's more on the
defensive end than offensively. You know, first game that he

(01:51:31):
scored he played great offensively, Yeah, but they weren't able
to stop the Nuggets, And to me, that's the problem.
So now you're not bringing a defensive juggernaut and Kevin Love,
you just bringing up a bigger body.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
You know what's funny is, uh, we always look like
what will be better instead of what will be worse?
Like in sports sometimes, like in a series, a great
example would be, well, hey, man, Jimmy Butler, he's not
going to play that badly. These role players aren't going
to play that badly. And I agree with that, but
you know what, Bam out of bio might not play

(01:52:08):
half as good as he did in Game one, you
know what I mean? Like, so it can go backwards
at times.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Yes, that's a very good point, and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
We tend to just look at what can be Well,
Denver's going to shoot the three way better than eight
for twenty seven. It's like, well, yeah, they probably will.
But you know, does Murray score twenty six points the
way he did in Game one?

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
You know, so yeah he'll go he can go for
a fifty ball.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Now you could go for a fifty piece.

Speaker 9 (01:52:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Murray is definitely fifty ball capable.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
How do you see it?

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Definitely fifty ball capable. Casey p can go for twenty,
he had a subpar game, Bruce Brown can go for seventeen.
That's what I'm saying. There was so many different components
of this game, Like neither team really had great play
all around. Huh, but gets have better play all around.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna make a statement that it's going to
sound straight from the hater handbook.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Over, let me write this down.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
I do love Jamal Murray. The guy's a baller. And
how crazy is it, by the way, Olden that he
was part of that Carmelo Anthony deal. Right, Carmelo gets
traded from Denver to the Knicks, and Denver got a
pick in that deal that they used to draft Jamal Murray.
It traces all the way back to Carmelo Anthony. But

(01:53:29):
Jamal Murray is a fantastic player. I think there's a
better chance that he doesn't reach fifty over the next
two games then he reaches fifty tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
What do you think The capabilities?

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Absolutely as the capil he can.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Literally get rolling and they'll be disastrous for Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
But you know as well as I do, it's not
just about the ceiling it's about the realistic ceiling. You know,
he can absolutely go for fifty night.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Jim Butler can go for forty five. But at the
end of the day, Nikolojokic is the key because that's
what Miami has to figure out. And until you figure
that aspect out, because he controls so much of the game,
you're not gonna beat them because you're not number one Brian.

(01:54:20):
You're not rushing him, you're not gonna speed him up.
You're not gonna make him turn the ball over, you're
not gonna make him take bad shots. None of those
things are happening. They're gonna happen in Boston. They're gonna
happen with Philadelphia. It's not happening with this team and
this guy. It doesn't work that way. You gotta figure
something else out. Now, if a team brings me on board,

(01:54:42):
if the Miami he want to give me a call
as a you know whatever, whatever, I'll tell him how
to stop them?

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
What do you kidnap him until the finals are over?

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Is that the plan might work too. I'm not saying
there's a way to stop stop, but there's a way
to limit limit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Okay, we'll get to that. How do you limit limit Jokic.
We'll do that right around the court, won't No, we
won't know. You got to get paid for that information.
Is it a Nancy Carrigan this type thing and take
a lead pipe to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
The It's just there's a way to defend him that
would benefit the Miami Heat.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
Okay, we got to get to this coming up. The
most popular bet bet is a bit surprising and some
positive tweets over here, very nice from the people checking
out the show tonight. We'll do that as well. I'm
Brian know he's old in polonies. Stay with us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Want to pitch on the way,
swung on and apply on the right field. Going back

(01:55:40):
now Smith Smith's at.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
The wall, great slam, great.

Speaker 9 (01:55:46):
Slam, Rasorio with a huge homer and the frames take
the lead.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
I'm Brian, No, he's holding polonies here on Fox Sports Radio.
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(01:56:16):
of the Braves Radio network down to their final out
and they hit a grand slam. You might have heard
if you sort of squint into your eyes and leaned
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and then the grand slam occurred there, old and not

(01:56:38):
what we're looking for here.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Oh, I'm so sorry. Quite a call it gambling.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
That's right. There's always another game. We got Game two
coming up over here. Now, how about this? Jason checked
in on Twitter and said Jimmy Buckets goes off and
puts on a clinic Game two against Denver for the
W hashtag bring it in is what Jason says. Are
you signing off on that there, Olden, I'm not based

(01:57:08):
on the way the show is gone. I don't catch
vibes of you saying right on, Jason, I think the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
No, I don't think the same thing. And Jimmy probably
will go off, you know. I mean, the man is
an All Star and he had thirteen points, you know,
I mean, common sense would tell you he'll have a
better game, now, is it gonna be fourteen points, Is
it gonna be twenty five, thirty five, forty five? I
don't know, but I guarantee you this. The Denver Nuggets

(01:57:36):
are gonna step up their game too. M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
I'm curious how many minutes Caleb Martin gets because he
missed practice yesterday. He's got an illness once the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
I don't know, That's what I need to know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
It could be a lot of different things, you know.
Could be a little head cold and he's all right.
Could be much more than that. And we're talking like
the Jordan flu game.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
You up?

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
How about this? Ronald checked in on Twitter and just wrote,
Polinice is greatness on that show, bro. Oh, thank you
very nice. And he just tweeted it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Nice. Oh my god. That means a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Thank you very nice from Ronald, So shout out to him, Ronald.
How about this? This is a The most popular bet
is a surprising one, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
This is according to bet MGM for Week one of
the NFL, the most popular bet is on the Detroit Lions.
They are six and a half point underdogs against the Chiefs.
That's the first game of the year, the Thursday night
game kicks the whole season off Lions at the Chiefs.
The Lions are the most heavily bet on team so far.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Wow, people, I mean they coming up. Man, I think
they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Be all right, man, get better.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
I really do they have it? I saw what is
that the Knox what's that show?

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Hard Knocks? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
That made me like, oh, I might want to rethink
my position on the lines.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
Dan Campbell will get you to buy in, you know
what I mean, it can't help, but he had me hyped.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
But he was so genuine with everything.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
You know what, how about this if we went real
quickly on who you think will be a surprise team,
whether good or bad? Are you going with the Lions?

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
I'm going with the Lions. I'm definitely going with my Giants.
And I'm going with the Cowboys. I don't think Colloys. Well,
I don't think the Cowboys do well this year?

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
Okay, surprisingly bad? You know who I think could be
surprisingly bad? Maybe the Buffalo Bills. Oh I like that
because that's a tough division, that's a tough conference. And look, man,
Josh Allen plays this alright.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
I got six primetime games. They're gonna they're gonna pick
it up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
They're probably gonna be okay, but that would be a
surprise because if they're bad, that would be a shock.
But crazier things have happened in the NFL, and the
way Josh Allen plays, I wouldn't be shocked if he's
nicked up for a few games and that could cost
him a playoff spot. Yeah, maybe surprisingly good. How about
the Falcons? Falcons are an up and coming team. Though, no, no,

(02:00:23):
all right, we gonna need points. We need a rally
in Game two tonight. Danny needs at least two seventeen.
All right, let's go and make it happen.