Buck & Fitz Talk NCAA Heisman, College Football Playoff, NFL Week 11, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We haven't even started the show, and Buck Rising is
already screwed it up. He's having this sort of day
that South Carolina had on the football field started hut,
you blinked, and then it all of a sudden ended.
The gift that keeps on giving is the chaos of Saturdays.
We're here for every single second of He's Buck Rising up.
Jason Vitt, it's fucking Fits.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Buck? He looks like you.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Can tell sometimes because we're FaceTime at each other. He
is ready to just get it out there. Buck's on
one already today.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
What do you want, sir?

Speaker 4 (00:33):
I hate all of you, like all all three of you.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
I hate I hate Mary, I hate Shay, I hate Fits,
I hate I got no problems with Chris. Chris is
not on my on my list just yet. We got
two hours to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't want to. I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I don't don't start this with me today, Okay. I
will not tolerate. Oh my God, will not tolerate your nonsense. Fine,
turn me down. That's your job. That's not my job.
That's job.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh God, he is this is what for the next
two hours, and we're gonna have here before the damn
show even starts.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Mary's talking to me. He's showing everybody on FaceTime to me.
I'm distracted. I can't hear what's going on. All of
a sudden, Oh, your MIC's hot. I don't know whose
fault is that?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Not mine?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm like an open guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The guy that's the guy that sits in front of
a microphone just blamed somebody else for speaking into a microphone.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
This is the sort of day we're gonna have u.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
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(01:50):
top of your screen. It was a wild day. I'm
not gonna lie. I was sitting here ready, I was
doing my swaggy Vince McMahon walk walking around everywhere safe.
The chaos of college football is the gift that keeps
on giving.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
At halftime of South.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Carolina up on A and M at the time thirty
to three, and you thought.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay, this is it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
We've been spending weeks talking about the College Football Committee
not giving A and M enough love, and guess what
college football is going to take care of itself? And
then all of a sudden, the third quarter happened. Over
two hundred and fifty yards of offense in the third
quarter alone, three touchdowns in the third quarter alone, and
before you know it, A thirty one thirty A and
M win. So the question now is buck Last week,

(02:30):
when Indiana struggled, we turned around and said, no, you
learn something about a team when the struggle. You learned
about their moxie. Did we learn about moxie from A
and M? Should we value A and M more because
they sucked so badly for a half of football and
then dug themselves out so easily in a half of football?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, I think that they showed what they're capable of
against an inferior opponent. Again, you I understand your logic.
Last week when I'm yelling and screaming at you about
the way that you were dismissing Auburn and the way
that they came out swinging against a ranked Vanderbilt team
on the road, like I understood it, even if I
disagreed with it. A and M was just objectively bad

(03:07):
to start the day and ended up with the biggest
comeback in school history, which is exactly what you expect
them to do, so just because it took a little longer,
and you would love a four quarter performance for style points.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
If you're trying to edge your way.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Up a little bit in the college football playoff rankings
where the top five were unchanged this past Tuesday, you
would like for A and M to go out there
and handle businesses against the South Carolina team that we
were talking about should be in the playoff before the
season started. Absolutely had expectations to be in the college
football playoff this year and have been just frankly dreadful

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on both sides of the ball. And the Leonoris Sellers hype,
the preseason hype, much like Arch Manning and Garrett Nussmeyer
and all these other quarterbacks that we spent entirely too
much time trying to figure out who was going to
be the number one overall draft pick before we played
out in an entire college football season, because turns out
that's not a smart thing to do. What Marcel Reid

(04:04):
did today in this fourth quarter, in the second half
of football was awesome. And while it is something that
you would say, you would cite the consistency or lack
thereof if you're going to ding them for it, I
just I can't help but think that in the toughest
conference in college football fitsy that it should it not
no pun intended, I swear to god, it literally means
more when you do this.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Against SEC caliber competition.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Look, I think you're Lenor's Seller's point is a strong
one because if we're being honest for a second, like
in the first half, I was sitting there saying, there
is there's the Lenoris Sellers that everybody thought we get
all season long. Right the first half, I was sitting
there saying, Yep, this is exactly what he was using
his legs. I mean, it's just looked good, right, And
then in the third quarter, in the majority of the
fourth I was like, there he is the Lenooris Sellers

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we've seen all year.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Long like this.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
This this becomes really interesting even to NFL fans because
you just made an important point that I, you know,
we haven't really talked about yet. It's never too early
to look at the draft standings. And when you look
at things like tankthon. It's funny because we weren't that
far far removed from saying, oh wait, last year, here
was a narrative. You know it in Tennessee. The narrative is,
you don't want a quarterback this year, you want a
quarterback next year.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Right, That's what everybody kept saying.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Now, all of a sudden, I got people telling me no, no, no, no, no,
we don't want a quarterback this year. We want a
quarterback next year because there are so many quarterback needy teams.
And I'm watching this game thinking about the very thing
you just mentioned.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
We were wrong.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
We as a collective society, we're wrong about many of
these quarterbacks. I don't know even which ones are going
to come out now. I don't even know which ones
are even remotely franchised saviors.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
And I'm looking around thinking.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
If your logic over the course of the last eight
nine months was don't worry if we suck this year.
We'll get to quarterback next year. This is why you
should never bank on that.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I'm so sick of Tankathon.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
I've been I've been looking at Tankthon in November for
four years. It's god forsaken franchise that I spend my
time covering.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Twenty is a fan, I mean, it's a Tankethon like
I look at that. I look at Tankethon more than
I look at NFL standings at the beginning of October
as the Raiders thay come on.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
This is a tradition.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
It's so sad I'm looking at on my screen only
because Mary is not on my FaceTime screen right now.
A Browns fan, a Raiders fan, and I cover the
Tennessee Titans for a living like it's it's just a collection,
Hi Mary, lovely to see you too, a collection of clowns.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Clowns who attach themselves to.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
These football franchises, hoping that there is going to be
something different each and every year when we go through this.
And yet, but that's a conversation for another day. We
don't want to bore the people who actually have You.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Can't wait till Indiana football and basketball both just go
down in flames so that I can then, like, when
when Indiana's season ends, I'm gonna wear a full clown
Regulia just for you, all right, I'm gonna remind you
how much it hurts when your team's good and the
season still doesn't. Like, I'm gonna stand up for all
of us on this show that have terrible teams, and
we will fight back as Indiana just withers into nothingness,

(06:52):
which is now what we're all rooting for as a show.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Jokes on you. I'm a Notre Dame fan.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh that makes it a shape.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Fan.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, nobody, nobody in the state of Indiana, in ls.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
A state of Indiana. Shay.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You got to understand this. Indiana football has never mattered
a day in my life.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I would die for that basketball team, Okay.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
The fact that they are beating up on Milwaukee, Wisconsin
and scoring one hundred points gives me more life than
that Penn State game did for Indiana football. And that's no,
that's no knock on what Signetti and the Indiana football
program you're doing. I'm very happy for my alma mater.
That's awesome. I'm a Notre Dame fan. It's my entire life.
I'm a Notre Dame fan. The entire state of Indiana
is Notre Dame football, Indiana basketball. And that's the thing.

(07:42):
Now if Indiana can, you know, move some of those
people back over, that's lovely, but.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's just it's not a thing for me.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
What happens if Indiana plays Notre Dame in the college
football playoff this.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Year again, I'll root for Notre Dame. I rooted for
him last year.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You don't go like every other year, like like one
year you give one or do you ever look at
it and me like, look, last year Notre Dame had
a much better chance inter national championship. This year Indiana
has a much better chance at a national championship.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
So like you can't be a little bit, Yeah, you
can't be a fan of two teams in playoffs?

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, okay, not to Dame.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like yeah, he's he's I do, actually I feel that
to my cores.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I sit here looking at Larry Johnson Jersey like I
grew up at UNLV basketball fan. I don't care about
you and LV football. I have the helmet behind me
because the team gave it to me. Like I'm not
sitting here like there's never been a time where I'm
actually losing sleep over the results of UNLV football. It's
kind of fun when it happens, but I feel you.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm Buck.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm just trying to troll you, That's all I'm trying
to do.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
But realistically, you can patrol.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Just sit down, all right, let me show your hat's
done one time.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You kind of you know, yeah, get a little bit
take guess on your skin so we can actually I mean, actually,
if he's.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
The trolls, there's going to be to be I don't
know if he's a troll.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
He's got the little gray hair on the top of
the bottom, like he's the gray haired troll that the
old troll. Like, what's the what's the nickname for the
grumpy old troll? Somebody, somebody text us unk is a
good nickname for a grumpy Buck's a good name for
a grumpy old troll? That is like arm bok arm
the grumpy troll? Go ahead, anything else you want to say, Boddy.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, I would like you for you to sit on
the sit on the end of that microphone that you're
talking into right now and take a spin, all right,
one time, go ahead and sit on it.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
So did anything today. So as we get through A
and M, we'll get back to take it on it
And I got there because there are no there are
no saviors at quarterback. But I think part of the
reason that this year's college football season it is so
hard to figure out is because there are no saviors.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
At quarterback like we're used to.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just like by now, I'm not sure we have a
great indication. We'll get into it in a few minutes.
Maybe the Heisman Trophy. I'm not sure right now. Usually
we sit here and we say, here's the guy that's
just going to lift his team to victory week in
and week out. I don't know that we have that
part of the parity process that we've gotten throughout the
course of college football this season. Buck it leads leads
me to more thought of, like, hey, maybe the fact

(10:08):
that we didn't get the rise of Arch, which is
made Texas look vulnerable every time they step on the field.
The fact that we could see here one week and
feel like Vandy looks like a world beater, but then
they lose, Like I've got Georgia Tech right now losing
to Boston College in the fourth quarter. I'm not sure.
Ty Simpson seems like he's really good. In Alabama seems
like they're really good, but they're in a tight game.
Like there doesn't seem to be the same this year.

(10:31):
Group of guys that are like, hey, no matter what,
I am going to win football games. And that maybe
is part of the reason it feels so unpredictable.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean, I'm down for the unpredictability. Right now,
We're watching Alabama leading by one against Oklahoma right now
in the waning minutes of the fourth quarter, Alabama possessing
the ball at this point in time. And if you
told me that Oklahoma was going to push Alabama, given
the matchup, given the defensive front that Oklahoma has, and

(10:59):
that just proclivity that Alabama has to live in these
third and six plus situations, and ty Simpson has handled
it way way better than average. But if you told
me that Oklahoma were to knock off Alabama today, would
I be shocked?

Speaker 7 (11:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Would I be slightly surprised. Yeah, It's just that kind
of season in college football. So for A and M
for Indiana, who handled business, you know, and kind of
kind of took their time playing with their food against
Wisconsin today, I did.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Is Ohios did Ohio State play today?

Speaker 5 (11:28):
I didn't see the o host Ohio States off today.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I didn't see an Ohio State schooling. They did not
play today.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I'm say, oh they played later tonight.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Okay, So we'll see what happens in Ohio State's game,
and if and if again we just continue because for
all the unpredictability fits what I said earlier that the
top five unchanged right, like the top of the college
football playoff standings right now is not really shifting. We're
waiting for something of consequence, one of these major type
of upsets. I don't know that we're going to get

(11:58):
it the rest of the way through, but the fact
that we get at least the threat of it in
game makes us think that it's a little more unpredictable
than it actually is.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
My apologies to Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
They play UCLA tonight at seven thirty pm. Check out
I get on NBC. Yeah, well, I mean that's all
we're gonna get you caught up on all of it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mentioned the Heisman earlier.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Buck's got one person we're not paying enough attention to
that should be the Heisman front runner.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Will tell you about it next.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
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know which person you think would make which old man
troll a couple of quick updates. We'll get you some
more scoring updates in just a few minutes, obviously, but
we do have a score. Oklahoma is now ahead of
Alabama twenty three to twenty one. We'll see where that goes.
And even more importantly for many of you, Georgia Tech
no good on a two point conversion that could have

(13:52):
tied against Boston College. We are late in that game
in the fourth quarter. It's not twenty eight twenty six.
Keep you updated on what that means. Heismand trophy around
the corner. And I was just saying, part of the reason, Buck,
I feel like this year has been so wild, is it?
There isn't one player that's out here dominating the sport
in such a landscape, dude, like, oh, clearly the best
quarterback gun the number one team. Maybe it is Julian
Sane and maybe I'm making everything more complicated. I don't know,

(14:14):
but to you, there's a Heisman person out there that
you think we are not paying attention enough to good sir,
who is that?

Speaker 5 (14:22):
How in the hell is a Notre Dame football player
underrated for the Heisman Trophy. You cannot sit there and
tell me in a year where there has been as
much indecision around Heisman Trophy voting as I can remember,
or at.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Least clear and obvious favorite.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Because the argument against saying is that they just cruise,
that they don't play anybody, that they're this year's Indiana
and listen, they're the defending national champions at Ohio State.
He's the quarterback of the best football team, the number
one football team in the country. I'm not denigrating him
at all. And we'll see what they look like against
real competition once we get into the college football Playoff.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
The first couple of rounds.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Assume well, assuming that they have a bye, we'll see
what they look like in the second round of the
College Football Playoff.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
But Jeremiah loves the best football player in the country.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
I don't understand, and he's not leading college football.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
And rushing right now. He's just shy of a thousand yards.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
He's got nine hundred and eighty eight the leading rusher
in college football right now is Cam Cook. Jeremi Love
would come in at fifth if you're just looking at
total yards right now, and he's not averaging the most
yards per carry in the sport, but of people on
teams who are getting the kind of volume that he is,
six point four yards per carry is as impressive as

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any bona fide starter in football. This year, he has
thirteen touchdowns, which would tie him for third of all
the running backs that have won the Heisman Trophy going back.
You know, let's just keep it in the two thousands, right.
So it's Reggie Bush, it's mark Ingram, it's Derrick Henry.
We are with So with the playoff ahead of us,

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and assuming that Notre Dame can continue its winning ways
and play themselves into the playoff or continue to control
their own destiny that way, he is on track at
basically what is the midpoint with a month left rather
of the college football season, he is very much on
track to be in the same category as all three
of those.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Players, maybe not Derrick Henry in terms of attempts.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
So I think that Jeremiah Love is being wrongfully left
out of the conversation. I think if you're talking about
the best player in college football this year, it's indisputably him.
He is an unstoppable force no matter how you look
at it. And of all the flaws that we talk
about with these quarterbacks that are favored, and Mendoza is
an awesome story, an awesome story, and if I'm not mistaken,

(16:46):
he's still the leading candidate to win the Heisman Trophy,
or rather saying as the leading candidate to win the
Heisman Trophy right now with Mendoza. Second, I don't know
how you could poke holes in a resume for Jeremiah Love.
Given the competition that Notre Dame has faced, what he
has done against that top level competition, and the track
that he is currently on, he needs to be in

(17:06):
the top three at minimum.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I don't disagree. I'll admit my bias.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Had the chance to interview him a few weeks ago
for Yoah Who Sports Day, and he's just an impressive dude,
Like you spend ten minutes with him, Like yeah, NFL
teams are going to fall in love with Jeremiah Love,
like even more, not just from the tape, but just
from talking to the human being.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
This is part of why I just wish that.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
The Heisman wasn't given out until we got to the
college football playoff, because to your point, I think we
are going to get to a college football playoff this
year that finally forces answers when we have such discrepancies
in scheduling for so many different players. Part of the
way we have to tell the story of who was
who and where greatness slide over the course of this season.
I think part of what we're going to have to

(17:48):
have is the context of best the best, who melted
it down in a big game Notre Dame, and CJ.
Carr is already just blowing up. I mean, I think
Brady's strong comments about CJ. Carr looking so incredible has
everybody falling in love with CJ. Car the quarterback of
Notre Dame. There is no development of CJ. Car if
not for the fact that Notre Dame runs the football

(18:08):
so incredibly efficiently and so incredibly well. And I always
go back to something, you know, Harry Douglas, our longtime
friends who you can check out on ESPN. Harry Douglas
was the one that taught me and I just say
this all the time. Day one of an installation for
your week of practice is spent focused on game wreckers,
like who is the one person you absolutely have to stop.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
When you want to slow down the other team.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
That factors into my conversation a lot when I think
about Heisman, because if I'm looking at it and I'm saying, Okay,
how do you beat Ohio State? Well, Julian Saying has
been very, very good this year. I don't think if
you shut down Julian Julian Saying has a bad game,
that doesn't mean Ohio State suddenly just out of it,
that they're suddenly going to lose.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Fernando Mendoza, like I look against the opponents he's played,
I don't know. Ninety percent completion percentage is impressive. I
don't care who you're playing against it. He's done it
over and over and over again. So to me, the
numbers are impressive. But I would love to see what
that looks like against in Ohio State. Jeremi I Love
is the game record, Like when you want to have
a very simple conversation about who's the one person that

(19:08):
if you take them away, Notre Dame cannot win a
football game. I believe that's Jeremiah Love so it's a
really strong point by you that I hadn't thought of.
I think part of it is just because at all levels,
like right now already, people are going to say, oh,
I can't draft him that high. Look at Ashton, you
didn't do that much. I can't draft a running back
like we want to have these conversations trickle down from
the NFL to college football, and I just want to

(19:29):
remind everybody that the devaluing of the running back position
doesn't take away from the conversation of who the best
player in the country is this year.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, and that's something that's like a mindset that I
had to shift for myself the last couple of years
because I'm an NFL reporter by trade, Like I think
in terms of the NFL, and when I talk about
college football, or when historically I've talked about college football,
it's been more not what these players are as collegiate players,
but how do they translate to the next level?

Speaker 4 (19:58):
What kind of prospect are they?

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Because that's where the vast majority of my focus has
been until the last couple of years. And obviously I've
lived in Tennessee now for ten so you spend this
much time in SEC country, and you start to come
around to the idea that oh, no, college football is
an appreciably better product across the board than actually.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Is the NFL.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
And it's way more fun to watch on Saturdays, that
is on Sundays, even if Sundays end up getting the
bigger number. And as college football players know, these guys,
they're not just prospects to be fed into the next level,
like who are they as college players? He is the
best college football player in the country. To me, I
don't know how that's arguable. So that's something that maybe

(20:35):
I don't think that the high And there's so many
more Heisman Trophy voters than there should be, right, And
I'm saying that as somebody who doesn't have a Heisman
Trophy vote, nor would I deserve a Heisman Trophy vote.
I don't even though I spend my entire life around football,
my day to day is completely consumed by football, that
doesn't mean that I'm qualified to vote on the Heisman Trophy.
And I think there's a good many people who probably,

(20:57):
if not for the ability to say, oh, Heisman Trophy voter,
should not be actually voting on the Heisman. I am,
And to your point, what is it December the thirteenth.
December the fourteenth is when the Heisman Trophy ceremony is
this year. It's so so early to make that kind
of a decision. It's like awarding MVP in the NFL

(21:17):
before the playoffs begin.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
It makes no damn sense. So for me, I want to.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Say, Buck.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The one pushback on that that I've had from people
is we don't want the valuations. This is what I've
been told by Heisman voters. It's December thirteenth. You're correct.
What I've been told by Heisman voters is we don't
want teams that don't make it to the playoff to
have great players disqualified from the conversation because they don't
have the extra body of work. That's what I've been told.

(21:43):
I don't know how much weight we put into that.
I'm just giving you the counter argument I've been given.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's reasonable, because you know,
not every great player in college football in the country
is going to have the opportunity to play in the playoffs.
And maybe there will be bold appearances, but a lot
of those dudes won't play, and the Bowls and stuff
like that. For a reason, right, you don't want to
get hurt.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What happens if you're the best player.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It looks like through most of the season, but then
Fernanda Mendozo goes out a playoff run and it's like,
oh my god, he did this in his extra three
games that you didn't get and now all of a sudden.
But at the same time, my count My pushback to
that pushback is that, to me, the Heisman is about
the absolute best player in the sport that year, and
you can't give me that conversation until the book is

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closed on the year.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, if you earn the right to play additional football games,
then that should work to your favor, not to your detriment.
So we'll see what happens. The Heisman Trophy will probably
go to one of these quarterbacks. That'll probably go to
the Ohio State quarterback, Julian saying, we'll see. But I
just think that in a way, there is never a
world where you could talk about a Notre Dame football
player given the nature of that brand and the I

(22:52):
guess they don't necessarily have a logo on their helmet,
but who that institution is. Historically, their players have always
been overrated. Never underrated. Now you have one that's actually underrated,
and he's not getting near enough love in.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Terms of the best college football players in the country.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
One thing that was overrated over the last few days
is massive news in college football that could absolutely impact
the playoffs on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
We'll tell you about it coming up.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But first, Chris perfect gonna get us all sorts of updated.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
A lot of scores. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Man?

Speaker 9 (23:23):
Oh yeah, let's start in Los Angeles where we are
recording rainy soaked Los Angeles in the coliseum where everyone
in the coliseum is drunk in shirtless in the rain.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
So USC welcome to the Big ten.

Speaker 9 (23:35):
I'm sure I guess twenty six twenty one USC over
Iowa right now. Mark Gronowski, quarterback for Iowa, had had
the Hawkeyes in Trojan territory, but a very close, just
out of bound fourth down Eve sees them turning it
over on downs. Iowa should probably get another possession out
of this. They have two timeouts left, one fifty five

(23:58):
to go, so we'll keep an e on with that one. Meanwhile,
also going on, Oklahoma has seized the lead with about
nine minutes to go. Twenty three twenty one Oklahoma with
the ball back and in Alabama territory trying to take
down number four Alabama. Meanwhile number six Texas Tech just
steam rolling u SEEF right now forty eight nine with

(24:21):
six minutes to go. Anyone, remember when UCF was like,
you know, we're the big bad guys, We're gonna be
the you know, really powerful in the future. There right
now one in five in the Big twelve and looking
down the barrel of one in six in about six
minutes here remaining that game. Meanwhile, you guys were mentioning
Georgia Tech Boston College, Georgia Tech on the road. They

(24:42):
have seat number sixteen, they have seized the lead, Boston
College with the ball, but they are now down thirty
three twenty eight with about six minutes to go in
that game. Boston College trying to get back to it.
But let's get to some scores from earlier in the
day where a historic victory for the a remain undefeated
on the season. Number three an M mounting the largest

(25:05):
comeback in school history, overcoming a twenty seven point deficit,
defeats South Carolina thirty one thirty. Let's also talk about
Buck's Notre Dame fighting Irish number nine. By the way,
ABC finally coming back on the air from my fighting
Irish loving mother, just in time for this game.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
After this massive YouTube TV outage.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
Thirty seven fifteen over Pittsburgh and Michigan survived a scare
in Northwestern late field goal to lift them over them
twenty four to twenty two. NFL injuries A couple just
to sign you off here. Bronco's running back JK. Dobbins
is reportedly done for the season, reports indicating he'll be
headed for the injured reserve with a foot injury. Meanwhile,

(25:47):
the Detroit Lions have placed tight end Sam Laporta on
ir he's dealing with a back injury. He will not
be able to return until week fifteen. Jason and Buck
back to you. Thanks, Chris, appreciate that wild day.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And as we speak right now, oh my god, there
we go. We got a touchdown, touchdown run for Boston College.
We'll see if there's any flags, but Boston College lets
the lead slip away and then all they do is
drive right down the field. Turbo, Richard Turbo, I'm sorry, Turbo,
I don't know if it's Richard or Richard. Sorry, Turbo,
I should know that I don't forty three yard touchdown run.

(26:22):
So there we go. We got chaos happening, and that chaos,
Buck will play into the college football Playoff. I don't
know how many people cared or paid attention to something
that is important, but we had college football playoff controversy
of sorts, or at least controversy that impacts because the
College Football Playoff Committee chair has stepped down amidst controversy.

(26:44):
He's the ad for Baylor University and so he has
stepped down and he has been replaced in this process.
What is interesting is he's been replaced by Hunter Yururchek,
who's the Arkansas Athletic Director as the chair.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's the new chair.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
But what's also interesting is they had to bring in
another committee member to replace him as a voting member. Now, Buck,
this is where I will give me two seconds of
Boggie down with board details. I've gone through the mock
committee process, right, and so for anyone that doesn't know,
the way it goes is there's thirteen people in a room,
and what we did for our mock committee. They take
an old year and you go into the room and

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you argue about this old year, and you go through
the whole process to learn how it works. So teams
are voted on in groups of three. So they decide
who team number one, two, and three is. Then in
the next grouping section they'll decide number four, five and
six for example. Right, then they go all the way
back and they redebate three v. Four and if a
change happens, they redebate one, two, three, four, five six.
It's their way of making sure that that three, four, six, seven,

(27:41):
that era is always sort of locked in. That's important
to me because we don't really have for our context
how close some of these votes are. And now what
we have is a new committee member coming in.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
For anyone that.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Just saw the al MVP award that was given out,
you know where Aaron Judge beats out the dumper for
it that was decided truly by two votes. Right, So
in my mind, a new committee member coming in, he
might value analytics more. He might not value the eye
tests the same way this very eye test committee value.
He may not value the big ten the way the
same the committee to before. Like one person changing could

(28:18):
just walk in and be like, hey, have y' all
thought about and all of a sudden everybody's reapproaching votes
like the presumption is, wow.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's just business as usual. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
When there's only thirteen people on a committee, the main
chairman is changing. That changes a little bit of the
tone of the meetings. And a new member comes in
that changes to me an entire possibility of the way
things are being voted on. I think this could have
a massive impact on the college football playoff.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Sure, And the problem with discussing it before we see
Tuesday Select the next selection show, right, is we don't
know we're dealing with an unknown variable, or in this
case variables. Mark Harlan, the Utah Athletic Director, is also
somebody who was added. As you mentioned, he is the
additional committee member that was put in in the absence

(29:03):
of Mac Rhoades. Here Hunter Yurchik as the selection committee chair,
and then Mark Harlan is the voting member.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
To fill Rhodes's role. So we don't hear from.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Every committee member, and so in theory, what it's almost
like getting pre mad about something without understanding fully what
you're upset about. As somebody who gets pre mad pretty regularly,
as Mary will tell you, I think that this is
something that it is going to be easy for people
to spin out about, even though it's really kind.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Of the same situation that you were facing.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Anyway, it is without precedent that they would change committee
members during the season this way. But in reality, you
have no idea how Committee member X was voting prior
to this, and you have no idea what they valued
prior to this. But now you open the door to
the idea in your own head that, oh, something is

(29:59):
going to be different, somebody is going to vote differently,
somebody is going to change their mind or view this thing,
as you said, through a different context than they otherwise were.
This is probably going to hurt my team personally. This
shouldn't be allowed. This committee should be defunded, bring back
the BCS and you spin out and out and out right.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I think that So you're right, that is what so
many college football fans are going to do. I'm not
spinning out. I'm stepping back from all of it and
saying we got to be aware. And awareness is why
taking away the possibility of reinterpretation is important. Look at
how smart I sounded when I said that I was
on your show, and thank you, I was on your

(30:38):
show this week And one thing I said to you
in Nashville about the committee with Vandy is that when
you are Vanderbilt, you cannot allow human beings to decide
your fate because I think there's just an inherent, subconscious
brand bias in certain situations. Right, They're just even if
it's subconscious, even if it's unintentional, somebody's going to hear

(30:59):
Vandy and be like, I don't know about that, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like, I think that's natural for some people.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I want to believe that the committee just rises above
all of that. But I have flat out asked prior
committee chairs. I have asked the head of the college
football playoff process at times, do they have iPads that
track how much film everybody's watching. I've asked these questions
and never gotten real answers on it. So to me,
where I get where I think the learning curve here

(31:24):
is like, if you are A and M, you won today,
and that's great, that's amazing, that's plucking, that's awesome, that's important.
It's not going to change your car. You're not going
to suddenly miss the college football playoff probably even if
you lost that game, but you do have to accept it.
Now you've become you've allowed a subjective conversation to happen
because you didn't clearly take care of business. If you're
Georgia Tech and Georgia Tech right now with the football

(31:46):
down by one in this game, Georgia Tech is trying
to fight their way into the college football Playoff conversation,
you can't leave things to subjective and what we like
to do the first couple of times we hear from
the committee is take that as this is the voice
of this college football Committee. What we have to acknowledge
now is that one person out of thirteen changing could
change some of that tone. So I just think it

(32:07):
loses some of the wiggle room for some teams to
feel comfortable with.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Just the outcome is the outcome.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Nothing sparks controversy like the college Football Playoff.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
It should be.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
I mean, it gives me a reason to watch on Tuesday,
because I don't know how many people around the country
actually watch this show, you.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Know what I'm saying. Like, I wake up in a
morning on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Check the rankings, and I go about it like the
initial one and then the few leading up to the
actual seeding of these teams before the actual playoff takes place.
That's what I play attention to. But for the most part,
at least I think for me, I don't know for
the vast majority of America, this has not been appointment television.
This makes it infinitely more interesting come Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
No, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Like Pat Forty and I had a disagreement earlier this
week when Pat Forty, who covers college football for Sports
Illustrating the USA Today, and he came back and said, Hey, like,
this is just a propaganda TV show nobody cares about. Well,
my argument is, if if the committee didn't exist every Tuesday,
casual people that aren't paying as much attention aren't going
to talk about college football on Tuesday and Wednesday every week.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The biggest thing ESPN did was.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Figured out, how do we drive conversation around this sport
on days other than Saturday. We do it by having
a human committee decide on where these teams ranks. Like
if we just went to auto bids in college football,
I think it makes so much more sense, and it
would be so much easier to track, and it would
actually kill some of the casual conversation that thrives around
this time of year because right now, what we'll have

(33:30):
is Tuesday people anticipating a committee, Wednesday, people telling everybody
that the Committee are idiots, and content comes from all
of it. So you're right, like, I think, you know,
there's a fine line on all of it. I think
the committee at some point is just serving their real mission,
which is just to kind of grow college football. We'll
get you updated. A couple of upsets could be brewing,
Will they actually happen and what will it mean for

(33:50):
the college football playoff?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Will do that?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Coming up next? These Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. We're
hanging out on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox
Sports Radio Radio. Philosophical issue with DJ Kaled. If you
have to tell people that you're the best music, you're
just not the best music. That's just a fat Like
if you have to be like we the best music. No, no,
that's not true. That that's not like if you have
to announce it, you know, you never you never heard

(34:13):
Prince playing a guitar solo saying, listen to me play
the guitar.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I'm really great at this. Like, if you're.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Great, your work stands in the stands alone, stands.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Up for itself.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Think of as affirmation.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's kind of like Jason Derulo.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Every time Jason Rulo does the song he has to
sing Jason Derulo like, if I don't know that it's
you without you telling me that.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It's you, I'm out. I'm out. You shouldn't have to
tell me.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
No, these are these are weird quirks that only that
only you would consider hold ups. I mean actually that
on principle, I think that if you're somebody who pounds
their chest and says, no, I'm the best at everything,
and I do the greatest things ever and all these
different things, then you're probably dealing with some level of
insecurity where you're trying to manifest these things or convince
yourself that you're actually something that you're not. But in

(34:57):
the case of DJ Kalet, I feel like DJ Kellett
to operate in a singular space there well.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
And this is where somebody will inevitably tweet me and
remind me that I am nowhere near as successful as
DJ Kllen, And you're right about that, Like, hey, he's
got walls and walls and walls and walls of golden
Platinum records.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
He says, hests in front of a wall.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I've got one wall, but not one black. I've got
one wall. Let's get it clear here, I've got one
one wall. DJ Klled's got like four mansions full of them.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I get it far more so, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
But yeah, also a Grammy.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Look, okay, when you play on the record, the record, No,
when you play on the record but your name, like,
but it doesn't come to you like the bamb Carry
did not win my Grammy.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Michael W. Smith won my Grammy.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
And so you get a certificate for that. So I
have a certificate behind me that is a Grammy certificate
that's framed, but that the Grammy associates.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Not a Grammy. It's a certificate.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Funny thing is that the uh the discount where it's Grammy,
the Grammy that the vam Perry won, the Grammy that
the band.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
This is very true story, the Grammy that the vamp
Perry won.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I did not play on that song, so I would
not have gotten I didn't get a Grammy for it.
I wasn't on that song, and they beat out another
artist whose song I did play on. I was actually
going against my own band in the Grammys. And they
beat me, and so my own band turned around and
and they got the Grammy and I got nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
So you don't have a Grammy party have a Grammy vote.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I have a Grammy vote, and I have a Grammy certificate.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yeah, it's it's it's I've got a Heisman Trophy vote.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Okay, No, I have a Bulletanic Call Award vote for
the best wide receiver in college football. I don't have
a Heisman vote. I'm the only person in the country
with the Grammy vote and a bolittantic cough vote. So
that's perfect. I got a certificate, not the trophy. I
don't have the Heisman. I have the Bulletic cough.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
This is this is what happens.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I got. You know, like I'm sitting here over over
here on the side. I'm just over here on the side,
you know, I'm I'm hustling. He's blackwise up, Jason Fitz.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Find Georgia Tech is down by one to Boston College.
We are in the waning seconds of this game, and
Georgia Tech is in field goal range. This game doesn't
matter to a lot of you, but it should only
if you're worried about whether or not Georgia Tech is
actually going to have a shot at the College Football Playoff.
Remember when you see your mox right now and they

(37:22):
show you that Miami would be in the College Football Playoff,
that is actually not going to be accurate because there
are so few scenarios that would send Miami to the
ACC Championship game. So if you see Miami, understand that
that's just a placeholder. Miami is the highest ranked ACC team,
so they get put in there as a placeholder. But
right now, Miami would not be Like, once the season finishes,

(37:46):
it's going to be far more likely that it's a
team like Georgia Tech than it would ever be Miami.
Depending this field goal that they're going to have to make,
they are deep. This is going to be a chip
shot field goal with about twenty seconds to go.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Buck Yeah, I mean, how detrimental was that NC State
loss for Georgia Tech.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
That's tough.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
That would have been I mean, and listen you, oh
my god, speaking of things that are tough, Alabama is
floundering under two minutes at this point in time, trying
to get across midfield against an Oklahoma pass rush that
has just had Ty Simpson in an absolute blender. But
I mean, this is this is what you're saying about
the chaos kind of weeding these teams out, while Georgia

(38:23):
Tech can be a good story and can be a fun,
interesting thing for a good part of the season. If
you can't go to Boston College, who is oho to
six in the a CEC, this would be their first
conference win for Boston College, the Fighting Bill O'Brien Butchins today, it.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Would be their first conference win.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wait, that's not a fine. The Fighting Butchins is not
a fine.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Why would that be a fine.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's just factually it seems like that's I mean, that's
kind of mean. It's kind of see, it's kind of mean.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
I don't get fined for me. No, I don't get
fined for mean. No, I dispute your fine. I Shay
is the independent arbiter here.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't know what these friends are.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
I'm new.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
See you doesn't even know what the fines are? Wait wait, wait, wait,
fine Shae, Fine Shae for that, Because like, at the
very least, when you're sitting in on a show, you
should understand the core tenants of the show. You should
understand that we've got a fine system here and then
Mary is.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
In charge of all of it. So like like weed.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Ian for not telling me about the fines. Why you
get fined?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Showed up? I showed up to the press conference. Dean
isn't here. I showed up. This is you know what?
This is? What? What's really here?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm just asking if you went into a press conference
because you were sitting in to help out Buck and
the Titans and you didn't know who the head coach was,
would that be on you or would that beyond Buck?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
In his defense, I don't know who the head coach
of the Titans is on a day to day basis
at those points.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Georgia Tech just scored a field goal. They are up
by two with eleven seconds left. We'll figure out what
happens with Alabama next. He's Buck rising up, Jason fitz
bucking fits on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh, how the mighty have fallen?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Because it's a Saturday, and why not give us even
more chaos? Alabama, number four ranked in the country, just
took their second loss of the year at the hands
of Oklahoma, and now suddenly Alabama to the College Football
Playoff looks a hell of a lot harder than it
did twenty four hours ago. It's fucking fits on Fox

(40:21):
Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's been
a wild day. It's always a wild day. But if
you're Alabama right now, you are looking around thinking how
did we get here? I understand two loss SEC team
buck still gonna make the college football Playoff. I understand
that everybody's going to try and figure out a way
to feel pretty good about this. But man, if you're

(40:43):
a Bama fan, what did I say earlier? You can't
leave anything up to a human committee to make decisions,
And now you just left things to a human committee
to make decisions. As we sit right now, Alabama takes
their second loss of their season of the season, their
first laws from the in conference at this point. Texas

(41:03):
A and M survived earlier today. So all of this
is gonna come down to my question to use, do
you really want to be in the SEC Championship Game? Like,
if we're being honest, do you really want to take
If you're Obama, do you want to roll this thing back?
You want to get a couple more wins, You want
to get your way right into the SEC Championship Game?
No problem, everything's hunky dory, or would you rather just
sit there with two losses on the outside looking in

(41:26):
to a team, another team that comes into it and
hope that you know, let all Miss take that on,
Let Georgia take that on. Let somebody not named Alabama
have to take that on, because man, this the three
losses and you are definitely out. So if you're Alabama,
you got to figure it out, figured it out quick.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Yeah, And I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see
how this plays out because the remaining schedule is Eastern
Illinois at home for Alabama, and then Auburn at Auburn
and the Iron Bowl, which no matter where those two
programs are, whether Alabama's a coach by Nick Saban and
dominant or Auburn is you know, as an interim coach

(42:01):
and is trying to figure things out in real time,
it's going to be a competitive game. So there's no
telling what will happen in the final week of the
regular season. Now you have a situation where Georgia at
is eight and one, you have Ole Miss at nine
and one, and Texas and Georgia will play here in
just a few minutes or I guess in about what
an hour or so before things get underway there to

(42:25):
see how that will play out.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
And what.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
I don't think it's necessarily an elimination game. It is
for Texas certainly, but for Georgia, like Alabama is still
in the College Football Playoff even though they lost tonight.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes as of right now, yeah yeah, it might so
where as much trickier as if Alabama finds themselves in
the SEC Championship game and they take a loss to
Texas A and M, which would be their third of
the year. What happens when you're sitting there with the
three loss SEC team that lost in the SEC Championship game,
which is an extra game that you shouldn't really have
to deal with in the first place. But at the

(42:59):
same time, it's a loss, Like I just I don't
know how to process that.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
No, I mean, this is Lane Kiffin's whole point from
last season, where he got on the podium and debated
publicly the merits of playing in the SEC Championship Game
for exactly this purpose. Now, for Lane it didn't matter,
and he was an easy target after the fact because
they blew it against Kentucky and twenty twenty four Old
missed it, and they weren't playing in the college football
Playoff at all, much less the SEC Championship Game or
even being even being given it consideration for it. So

(43:27):
this is something that is as we work our way
through the next few iterations of college football playoff before
expansion inevitably comes to our doorsteps, there are going to
be programs who are actively saying I don't think it's
in our best interest to compete in the conference championship game,
which frankly is just bad.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
For the sport.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, you're right, it is bad for the sport. It's
a weird look. But also championship conference championship games need
to go away. Like I know, that's just a big
like slapping the face to.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
College football piers.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'll credit Pete fu Tech, who does a really good
job of covering a lot of college football, who points
out in Twitter four minutes ago Twitter X, this Alabama
loss of course matters, but it sort of doesn't as
long as Georgia beats Texas tonight, If the Tide beat Auburn,
and if Texas loses, it's Bama versus Texas A and
M for the SEC Championship game, which then takes us
right back into this situation of like what do you do?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Then?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
What do you do if you pick up a third
loss in a conference championship game?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And then part of the variable that we have.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
To accept to this is like, also what are the
other conference championship games look like? Because I'll go back
to the dreaded ACC. I want to keep on bringing
up the ACC, which I think we can all admit
right now isn't necessarily very good. Right, So what happens
depending as of right now, we would get Georgia Tech
versus Virginia in the SEC championship game, that's fine, But
what if a team like Pittsburgh finds a way to

(44:44):
sneak their way into the ACC championship game and wins it?
So then a three loss Pittsburgh team is and what
are we doing with a two loss Georgia Tech or
Virginia in that situation? Like big thieves are real now
in this modern climate because the top conference champions the
top rated conference championships going to get into this thing.
So it just gets hairy buck Like, all of this
just gets a little bit confusing. Alabama wins tonight, they

(45:07):
got absolutely nothing they need to worry about, even if
they lose in the SEC Championship game, they're still going
to be in. Alabama lost today though, and that loss
has to have some level of consequence. They'll dip in
the rankings and things at the very least will get
a little bit more precarious for them. And now we
have to factor in Oklahoma. And we're being honest because

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Oklahoma last week in the College Football Playoff rankings, I
believe they were number eleven, so they were going to
get bid thieved out of it. You have to be
in the top ten because of the way it laid out,
they were going to be bid thieved out.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well, Oklahoma's going.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
To skyrock it up now, right, and if head to
head matters to this committee, Oklahoma has to be ahead
of Alabama. So what like, is Oklahoma now a lock
for the College Football Playoff with a five seed and
Alabama's swinging for their lives as a six.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
At the very least, it gets complicated.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Let's talk about the coaches for a second, because Brent
Vennables was somebody who was going to in a hot
seat situation if they didn't start to show some signs
of life and then they go to Tennessee and they
win at night, and they maybe it's not a pretty
winner anything like that, but they beat a team that's
got the best in terms of total yardage, the best
offense in college football, or one of the best offenses
in college FOOTBA.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I'm pretty sure they're up there at the top. If
they are not the top.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
At this point in time, then they go to Tuscaloosa
and win this game. Brent Venables has put himself in
a situation where they are continuing to find ways to
win these games, gutty gritty, whatever you want to call it.
And for Debor, I mean, I don't know if you follow,
If any of you follow out there in the social
media world, hopefully you're not on Twitter at all and
it would be better for your mind and your sanity

(46:41):
on a regular basis. But there's an account on Twitter
called message board Geniuses that show all of the posts
that are coming down from various college football and largely
SEC fan bases on their various message boards. The Alabama
message boards are insane right now. I don't know if
Kaylin de Bor is not going to get fired at Alabama,

(47:01):
and we understand that he's put them in a much
better position throughout the course of the year than that
lost to Florida State early in the season.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Show. But if you want to talk about a fan
base that is living.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
And dying with every snap, not just every game, Alabama
has to be in an absolute blender tonight, which is
the life time.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
By the way, I hate to.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Say that's it's wild though, Like because I've got the
rankings up from the College Football Payoff Committee last week,
Oklahoma was number twelve. I apologize, So Oklahoma will skyrocket
up in this process, right, we know that Alabama was
number four. Well, if Georgia wins tonight, george is gonna
move up, you know, just you start looking at it
and saying, well, who's going to lose to create room?

Speaker 4 (47:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Weirdly, a team that you and.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I have talked about a lot because of our ties
to Nashville, the win by Oklahoma today actually has true
real consequence to Vandy. Vandy needed some of these teams
to fall out, like that's not likely to happen at
this point. Like I think two weeks ago, if you'd
asked me Vandy wins out of the end of the college
football playoff, the answer to me was squarely. Yeah, because
you think college football is going to take care of itself.

(48:03):
There'll be enough losses ahead of everybody else. But now
I don't know, because I'm not sure Alabama will fall
far enough to really put themselves out of the playoff system.
And now we're going to have to account for Oklahoma
and Alabama likely both making the College football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's that's going to make it even tougher.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I mean, I'm just doing the math, and it's tough
if we presume Texas, A and m wins the SEC
for one second, do we believe that Georgia all miss Alabama, Oklahoma,
and Vandy you're all going to make the college football Playoff?
In addition to I don't that's the math. The math
ain't math.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
And buck No especially, I mean what three SEC teams
made the college football Playoff last year and the SEC
felt like it was sliding and Greg Sanki, the commission
of the league, went on the war path and said,
you know, you're doing all these things trying to renegotiate
and reposition things to benefit his conference, as is his job.
By the way, nobody would fault him for that. But
if you are, if you're Vanderbilt. Now you are in

(48:59):
a worse position on a buy than you were the
week than a week ago when you beat Auburn and
overtime at home and outlasted a resurgent Auburn offense in
that moment, because you have the two losses that Vanderbildt
has are to who they're to Alabama, who just lost
but is not going to fall completely out of the
college Football playoff by any stretch of the imagination, even

(49:20):
if they will take a tumble down the rankings, and
to Texas, who is above you right now, who's playing Georgia.
But still this is the double edged sword if you're
Vandy trying to make this college football playoff, because you
don't need your loss to Texas to look worse, but
also you're in a situation where you would like Texas

(49:40):
to lose to give you a fighting chance to climb
back into this thing with a win at Tennessee at
the end of the regular season, because that is they're
what well they have Kentucky after they come off the
buy next week, and then they will go to Tennessee
and try and win a Kneeland, which I think they're
fully capable of doing. Right now based on the way
that those two teams match up. But this this really

(50:01):
more than anybody. The loser of Alabama Oklahoma is Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
It's just so compacted right now. And this is just
I said earlier, I'm an agent of chaos. We know
that I'm an agent in the chaos, and as an age
of the chaos. What I love about the early portion
of the college football season is it delivers everything, just
turns the hell in the hand basket over and over
and over and over and over again. At the end
of the season, so often the chaos just gets to

(50:27):
the point that you know, it feels like the cream rises,
And this year it's more difficult to figure out what
that cream looks like if the cream is going to rise.
Like Texas Tech made a statement with the big win
over UCF, fine Notre Dame makes a statement.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
With the big win over Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
These things make life a lot easier for everybody to
try and figure out who belongs and who doesn't belong.
But like USC ekes out a win over Iowa and
Iowa team that frankly the Committee respects at number twenty one,
and USC still has number eight, Oregan left ahead of them,
So like there are weird pass for teams to get
into this thing that we're not even talking about, which
is why it gets more complicated for a team like

(51:04):
Alabama to take their second loss and why particularly SEC
fans are gonna just hate this. I just, man, I
don't think you should put the risk at this point.
If I ran the SEC the last thing in the
world that I want as an SEC championship game, let
me crown my regular season champion and then let all
of the committee members just sit there and not have
an excuse to leave a team out. I don't need

(51:25):
someone to steal my way in Buck.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Yeah, but that's I mean, while that would make sense,
it's never gonna happen because that's that's attendance. That's a
game that Mercedes Benz Stadium gets to host. It's a
television product that the SE or rather the ESPN is
that played on ABC or ESPN.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It's the same. It's the same in a way.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
It's on network television, and somebody is going to want
to put that game on because regardless of who's playing
in the SEC Championship game, or at least more often
than not, regardless of who's playing in the SEC championship game,
that's going to do a big number, right, It's going
to feature two premier programs in the world of college football,
even if the consequences of the game matter a little
bit less than they used to. It's never the conference

(52:07):
championships are never going to go away for the sole
purpose of financial reasons.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, you're right, and there's still so much chaos to
happen because realistically, Texas could beat Georgia tonight, and then
Texas could beat Texas A and M, and then all
of a sudden, we're finding more room for more of
these teams.

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(52:58):
tell us who you should and shouldn't trust in the NFC.
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here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart App. I'll
be tuning in tomorrow morning trying to figure out because, like, look, honestly,
I'm not the one that usually comes in and says,
oh my god, what a great slate of games. Most weekends,

(53:40):
there's a lot of junk games out there that just
aren't worth watching. But I'll tell you this weekend, buck
massive slate of Sunday games. Like I keep making this
joke at Yahoo, but it's like this week's game of
the week of the century. Because every year, every week
I feel like we're out of here with like.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
This is the biggest game whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
There are huge games like Seahawks Rams is a massive
game this year that has incredible ramifications to the playoffs,
but also just will tell us something that we need
to know about the rams of the Seahawks and who's
great like Lions Eagles is going to give us some
indication about who we can actually trust. Who do you,
Buck Rising think is the best team in the NFC?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Simple question? Complicated answer.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Is it is a It is a complicated answer because
I'm so split between Seattle and Los Angeles right now,
because both of them are excellent on offense. One has
Matt Stafford is playing the best football of his career
at thirty seven years old, which is insane, insane to

(54:45):
think about, and to their credit, they're keeping them up right.
If you can get pressure on Matt Stafford, we understand
that that's the one way, the one kind of kryptonite
football kryptonite that he seems to have right now, but
he's not really being bothered. Twenty five touchdowns to two
winners options Matt.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Stafford so far this year.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
But then I look at Seattle, by the way, the
Rams defense excellent, pass rush excellent. At this point in time,
they're trading for pieces like just just because I cover
the Titans here on a regular basis, they're trading for
a former second round pick and Roger McCreary off the
Titans roster and then putting them on special teams because
they don't need him. He's just depth for them in
their secondary at this point in time. Seattle, though, doesn't

(55:23):
even need their offense to do that much. And I'm
not saying DeMarcus Lawren's gonna go out there and score
two defensive touchdowns at every game or anything like that,
but Sam Darnold can have just a fine day, and
Seattle's defense is so overwhelming.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
In particular Seattle on the road. I don't know what it.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Is with Mike McDonald and his record at home versus
on the road, and it's steadily improving obviously this year.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
What they're able to do in Seattle which is still
one of.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
The toughest places to play in football. No matter what,
if I had to pick between the two, I would
pick the team that has a formula that I feel
will travel better, and for me, that is Seattle. Seattle's
defense is overwhelming at every level. They're the NFC version
of the Texans. The Texans are awesome and have an

(56:08):
offense that just I mean until David Smills went into
the lineup last weekend and frankly was well protected against
the Jaguars, couldn't do anything. They had twenty six points
in the fourth or against twenty points because they had
a thick six at the end of the game, but
twenty points in a fourth quarter essentially.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
To put them over the top.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Seattle's formula though, their run game, their defense, their quarterback,
to Sam Darnold's credit, all praise in the world to
Sam Darnold for being cast off in Minnesota, winning fifteen
games for them last year listen and understandably collapsing at
the end of the regular season, and in that playoff
game against the Rams.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
They made him look like a toddler out there.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
It was not It was really not competitive on behalf
of Minnesota, So Minnesota says whatever.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
We'll let you go. We'll let you go get paid.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
You've earned the ability to get a big contract, but
it won't be here and we'll gut this thing out
with JJ McCarthy. That hasn't worked out for Minnesota. It
has been awesome to see what Sam Donald has done
in Seattle, and I think in a world if Jonathan
Taylor didn't exist him, he very much does. Even though
the culture on a bye this week, Jackson Smith and
Jigma would be the offensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I mean, Jackson Smith and Jigma is quickly making a
case to belong in the same conversation as you know,
Jamar Chason justin Jefferson right like he's one of the
top three wide receivers in the NFL at this point.
Pooku Naku also going to be on display. I love
what you said about Sam Donald because so often Vikings
fans come back and say, well, we saw him melt out.
I will just remind everybody gently, I am not comparing

(57:35):
Sam Donald to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I'm not that stupid.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I will remind everybody though, Patrick Mahomes got to a
Super Bowl against the Buccaneers where he was absolutely being
run around ragged, and he didn't play very well, right, Like,
it was a bad game for Patrick Mahomes. Patri Mahomes
in a Super Bowl against Eagles didn't particularly play very
well because.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
He was being run around ragged.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Like most quarterbacks don't really handle absolutely getting murder every
time they drop back and still excel at the sport.
So yeah, even if you want to put it all
on Sam Nargald find Vikings fans, if you want to
do that, he had two bad games at this point
full body of work. I'll take two bad games over
at two years sample size, Like, that's not bad. Seattle's
defense that you mentioned, I think we had to go

(58:17):
back to the Ravens. Remembering that Mike McDonald, not the
Doobie brother, but the head coach of the Seahawks was
the defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens, and Ravens players
said in his last year as the defensive coordinator, and
they asked why everything popped. One of the things that
some of the Ravens stars said is it takes a
minute to figure this defense out. There's a lot of thinking,

(58:38):
you have to do a lot of different things. Takes
a minute to learn the scheme, and then all of
a sudden they became incredible. What are we see now
year two for Seattle? Like it takes a minute to
learn the scheme, it takes a minute to become who
they are. So now you have a defense that I
think is a matchup nightmare for everybody, with the quarterback
that's playing hot, with an offensive line that's doing well
enough with Jackson Smith and Jigba who's turned out to
be one of the best wide receivers in the NFL,

(58:59):
wish a head at who's a huge element to what
they can do on the offensive side, and two running
backs that share the duties in a way that drives
fantasy football players crazy but also at the same time
gives tremendous production.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Like I love the Seahawks. I mean, I'm just I'm
all in at this point.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
At the same time, I could make most of those
same arguments about the Rams, and the Rams have something
Seattle doesn't have with proof of concept, with the head coach,
Like we've seen Sean mcvagh win a Super Bowl. We
know how good Sean McVay is, you know, So, Like
I struggle with this because I feel like Seattle's the
best team in the NFC. But if you really came
in and wanted a convincing argument for the Rams, I

(59:37):
think I can make almost the exact same argument. These
two teams are kind of the Spider Man me.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Well.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
And it's funny because Philadelphia has a stronger strength of
schedule through these I mean, I guess now we're technically
into Week eleven, but everybody else besides the Patriots and
the Jets has only played their Week ten through their
Week ten at this point in time. Philadelphia, despite all
of their different things and all of AJ Brown's complaints
and lack of apologies, which by the way, delights me

(01:00:05):
as somebody who covered AJ for the first three years
of his career.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Have a hard time discounting Philadelphia. But if you're gonna
make me pick between the two Seattle and LA, I'm
gonna pick Seattle simply because I think that so much,
so much more for the Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Hinges on Matt Stafford.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
And I'm not saying that Matt Stafford can't finish the
season healthy and that he I mean it would be
so Matt Stafford is deserving of an MVP award.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
He really, really is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
It would be cool and not just like a lifetime
achievement type thing, like he's gone out there, busted his
ass and earned it this year. But if he if
something were to happen to Matt Stafford, who is who
is Seattle's backup quarterback right now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Jimmy Garolo. Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Oh no, no, not that's the right right I'm not
the former Alabama quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Is it? Who's the backup quarterback right now for Seattle?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
I'm blinking at this point in talking.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Either what you like either way, if your starting quarterback
goes down, your bang, so I start. If something happens,
God forbid to Darnald or Stafford. Neither of these teams
are the same team. But I just feel like Seattle
has so many more ways to mitigate it right now
than does La should something happen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Drew Locke is listed as the backup. Jaln Milroe is
listed as third string. Jayalen millerll was sort of their
flyer to see what he looks like for the future.
I don't think we're going to see that anytime soon.
I think Sam Donald is going to be the starter
for the Seattle Seahawks for a very long time. I
have thoughts because we haven't even talked about the Eagles
and the Lions, who are both just at this point saying,

(01:01:39):
why do you not respect us? Well, answer why we
don't respect him? But first, Chris, get us updated on
everything going on right now across the landscape.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
All right, we're getting ready for the late night games here.
But first final score out of Oklahoma, I mean out
of between Oklahoma and Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
And it sounded the final call sound like this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Throws out to the left.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
It's broken up and complete.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Knocked it down, Alabama. It's got an Oklahoma problem.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
The Sooners turn them o front downs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
With fifty seconds to go. They go on the road
and Pete, Tennessee. They go on the.

Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
Road and Pete, Alabama, and the Sooners are on the bracket.

Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
Number eleven Oklahoma twenty three to twenty one. Down goes
number four Alabama. You were talking about it earlier. Meanwhile,
Georgia Tech stays alive a last second field goal after
they overcome a harrowing third quarter nineteen points they scored
in the fourth as they defeat Boston College thirty six
thirty four in rainsoaked Los Angeles. Number seventeen USC held

(01:02:41):
off Number twenty one Iowa. A Mark Bronowski rushing attack
had the Hawkeyes in Trojan territory, but a deep pass
by him on fourth down came up just short and
just out of bounds, so the Trojans hold on. Earlier
in the day, Number two Indiana stomped Wisconsin thirty one
to seven. Notre Dame, Number nine stomping Pittsburgh thirty seven

(01:03:04):
to fifteen. Eight Number eighteen Michigan surviving a scare in
Wrigley Field, twenty four, twenty two, your final score. There
a couple NFL injuries to talk about. Broncos running back JK.
Dobbins is reportedly done for the season. Reports indicate he'll
be heading for the injured reserve with a foot injury,
depriving Denver of a weapon. There, and you guys are

(01:03:25):
about to talk about the Detroit Lions, Well, a little
bit of injury news for them. Tight End Sam Laporta
is heading to the ir dealing with a back injury,
so the earliest they can get him back would be
week fifteen of the NFL, and earlier today in the NBA,
the Pilot the Pelicans fired head coach Willie Green after
a two to ten start to the season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Guys, back to you, Oh, the Pelicans are an absolute
dischal It's just it's just the Pelicans are just tough
to watch. Sorry, New Orleans fans. It was supposed to
be better for you with Zion and Shocking. It isn't
better for you with Zion. I used my rising I'm
Jason fitz Bucket fits on Fox Sports Radio. So here's
the thing. Let's start with the Eagles portion of this.

(01:04:06):
I want to say loudly, I don't have a problem
with anything that A. J. Brown has had to say.
And I want to go back to something that coach
k and Nick saban Bill say. We watched some stuff
at Yahoo where they were talking about different coaches in
the way that they coach their teams, and one thing
that we heard from both of those coaches was never
worry about being the best, because that's a variable you

(01:04:28):
don't control. You cannot control if you are the best,
because it asks for you to control everything else in
the room. You can only control of every single day
you are your best. Now that sounds simple, but I
think when you listen to what Aj Brown has had
to say so much of it about the failing of
the offense book. My first thought is he's not wrong
like winning games, and he made it clear I want

(01:04:48):
to win games, right. The result is great, But when
you are worried about being the best every day, I
think it is or your best every day, I should say,
I think it's okay to acknowledge the outcomes great, but
what we're doing isn't working yet, and we need to
fix what we're doing so we are our best.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
People freak out, but I have no problem with AJ
Brown has said because the Eagles are really good and
all we're talking about is the drama around the Eagles
instead of the Eagles being really good.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
I don't think the Eagles actually think it's dramatic, and
I understand why fans do. Right, if you understand the
person that AJ Brown is and I listen, I'm not
going to pretend to know everything about the human being
just because I had him what four years ago at
this point, since he's been in Tennessee on as a
second round pick by the Titans in twenty nineteen. But

(01:05:37):
AJ Brown is a complicated person. He is somebody who
works his way through a variety of different things. He's
somebody who's gone through mental health struggles. He's somebody who achieves,
or rather strives to achieve greatness in everything that he does.
And I think the fact that he's had kids in
the last couple of years has really grounded him in

(01:05:59):
a meaningful way. And I think if you know who
this human being is, truly at his core, you understand
that he doesn't want it simply for individual accolades.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Even though you could look at him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
And say, well, you're on a seven and two team,
shut up in go block or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
That would be the easy, lazy thing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
In this particular situation, the Eagles still have the opportunity
to be overwhelming. They still have an opportunity. We just
had a conversation about who's the best team of the
NFC between the Seahawks and the Rams, and discounted the
Eagles in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
This particular situation.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Because the offensive line used to be their superpower, it
has not been consistently so far this season.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Their running game has suffered. As a result.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
You're asking Jalen Hurts to do a lot more. That's
not a formula for success. Even though Jalen Hurts, to
his credit, has earned that Super Bowl championship and is
a part of a defending champion team. AJ Brown being
a meaningful part of that offense is the way that
the Eagles become the best version of themselves right now, FITZI.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
And it's not just about counting stats.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Thirty one of fifty four is his receptions to target
ratio four hundred and eight yards, three touchdowns. AJ hasn't
had less than a thousand yards in a season since
twenty twenty one, his last year here in Tennessee, when
he only played thirteen games. That would be a crime
to have something like that on your roster, so unutilized

(01:07:21):
or underutilized to the point where you're just it is
inhibiting you in a variety of different ways, even if
you still find ways to win games at the end.
Nobody covered themselves in glory when the Eagles outlasted the
Packers ten to seven, right Like, that's not that that
may be a victory and that's all that matters against
a conference opponent, but it doesn't. You don't come away

(01:07:43):
from that game as an Eagles fan feeling good about
the circumstance, because you still haven't ultimately solved the thing
that is inhibiting you, which is why the hell Aj
Brown can't get more involved in the offense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
The crazy thing is much like I said last year.
All year we're talking about the Chiefs and how they're broken,
and the Chiefs are going to go to the super Bowl.
We are talking about the Eagles and how broken they
are constantly. If the playoffs started today, Philadelphia would have
the number one seed in the NFC, a first round
by and home field advantage. And if you just listen
to sports talk radio conversations about the Eagles, you would

(01:08:19):
think that the Eagles were five and four and grasping
for their playoff lives. We're talking about the Eagles like
their record is actually what the Kansas City Chiefs record
is this year, and they're the defending super Bowl champions.
I don't remember ever seeing a defending super Bowl champion
becomes so invisible while they are consistently having success.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
And that's exactly what Philly is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
So for all the things that are broken that Aj
Brown wants to get right, that all of us want
to see be better, they're seven and damn two. They
are seven and two at this point, so I refuse
to just eliminate them from the conversation, much like it
just doesn't pass the eye test. That's the part of
this that's difficult, which brings us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
To the Lions, right, Like the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
It's the best of the Lions this year has been
I think better than anybody. If you just took the
best moments of the Lions on film and you turn
it into a highlight reel, it would look like they
were absolutely the Jugger Nott nobody wants to face. If
you put the worst of the Lions on a highlight
field reel and asked us all to watch it, you
wouldn't be sure if they were competing with the Jets
as one of the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Teams this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Like the up and down of the Lions, who were
still obviously an incredibly talented and good football team, makes
it impossible for me to trust. Like, if the Lions
get hot, the Lions can win the Super Bowl. If
the Lions have sort of the game that they've had
repeatedly over the course of this sort the haves that
they've had at times over the course of this season,
I don't even worry about him in the playoffs. That's

(01:09:39):
wild and that's why I think they're a notch lower
for me in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Yeah, And then there's the play calling situation with Dan
Campbell taking that over to his credit by the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Way, they went out there and dominated Washington.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Film glasses on Dan Campbell looking down the end of
his nose glasses Dan Campbell because the play sheets too
small and they need his readers. Is is one of
the funnier things that we've seen. But I mean, I know,
we had a Coach of the Year segment that we
thought about getting to tonight and aren't going to be
able to just for lack of time here. But Dan

(01:10:11):
Campbell deserves a tremendous amount of credit for surviving this
and still making the Lions despite the brain drain without
the coordinators. And there is some understandable brain drain without
the coordinators losing both coordinators to head coaching positions this
past year, Dan Campbell has found a way to manage
it all. I mean, this alone FITSI and maybe they
are too dependent on one kind of thing willing them

(01:10:34):
to win wins here, but there are only the number
of players under the age of twenty four with the
most touchdowns in NFL history if you look at them
throughout the course of their careers. There are four Hall
of Famers on this list, and Jamier Gibbs, Barry Sanders,
Randy Moss, Emmett Smith, Jim Brown. Jamier Gibbs in terms
of the volume that he's getting, I'm stealing that from
NFL Stats and Info. They send out that weekly email

(01:10:56):
of what to watch or things to watch in the
upcoming week of games.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Jamiir Gibbs has been awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
They found ways to get him the most amount of
carries humanly possible.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Without running him into the ground. I think that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
Detroit has I think Detroit is better than you are
giving them credit for, even though I acknowledge that there's
always going to be in the back of your mind
that opening game where they just looked completely mortal, even
worse than mortal, that in that moment saying can that
happen to them in any single game, single elimination sample
size when they make the playoffs this year, again, it's possible,

(01:11:32):
depending on who they end up being matched up with.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
The hard part for the Lions is that you know
it's not yes, the opening game against the Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
There were just bad moments in it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Then they beat the Bears early in the season. The Bears,
I'm still not sure, actually good football team. They beat
a Ravens team that was beat up in a shell
of themselves. The Brown suck. The Bengals suck. They lose
to the Chiefs, like what's their landmark win? The Bucks
like beating Tampa Bay and it's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Goodpa, They're good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
That was fine, and that's that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
So it's just hard because the standard that's been set
by the Lions, because of the way the Lions look like.
The Lions for the last couple of years have looked
effortless in just moving the football.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
This year just hasn't quite looked like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
And but that doesn't change the fact that the fact
that it's still Aman Ross Brown, it's still Jamir Gibbs,
it's still Jared Goff who's playing absolutely lights out year
in and year out. At this point, it has been Laporter,
Laporta put out on injured reserve for ill miss at
least four games. If they don't have Laporter going into
the playoffs, I feel much much differently. But we've also
seen some differences in his usage. So, you know, it's

(01:12:40):
just interesting. I think part of the reason the Lions
are doubted a little bit is because the very standard
that the Lions set in the way that they looked
last year in being so stinking good, don't I don't
know the answer to this, Like I think right right now, realistically,
if you told me that we were just doing an
elimination and we all had to pick a team to
go to the NFC, if I to the playoffs from

(01:13:01):
the or the super Bowl from the NFC, if I
got the Seahawks, the Rams, the Eagles, and the Lines,
if I got any of those teams, I could easily
find the argument that gets that team to the super Bowl.
And that's kind of unprecedented, right, Like, there are four
It's not like we're sitting here having to excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
You know, a parody on this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I think we've got four incredibly good football teams at
the top of the NFC.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Absolutely, and whereas the AFC is just wide open at
this point in time. I mean, it's you're looking at
a situation where if again the playoffs don't start today,
but if they did, the Chiefs would be on the
outside looking in. The Ravens are on the outside looking in,
and the Bills would be a wild card team. Like,
it's just it's an unholy mess on the other side
of the bracket.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, and I'm supposed to truck and trust Denver with
the bow knicks for the overthrow, like I'm out, I'm
out on Bote.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I don't trust. I don't trust Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Overthrow is so overpressive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well, I mean, just you know when the Broncos, if
the Broncos had a better quarterback, and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
They'd be pissed if.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
I was a Broncos fan. That's so disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Hey, sometimes you gotta look in the mirror and just
remind yourself, Hey, I let myself go, Like that's what
you just got to look in the mirror and be like,
my team doesn't have that guy a quarterback and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
They're eight and two. If that's letting yourself go.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
Brother, I've been covering awful Titans football for I mean,
not my entire.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Career, this is the last four years.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
But I'd take I'd take the bo overthrow if it
got me to eight and two.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
And there are two plays away from being undefeated this season,
and I still don't trust.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Their quarterback to win a playoff game. All right, we're
coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
We're gonna get to the single greatest game show in
the history of sports talk radio unless Shade blows it.
A lot of pressure on this, a lot of pressure
on Shape to get this thing right. Would you rather
come it up next? He's Buck Rising? Up Jason Fitz
bucking fits on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back bucking Fits

(01:14:49):
Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz need
more like a mood day. It's great, great theory in
the world. You can say anything and be fine if
you whisper the same statement suddenly becomes creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
If I walk up to Buck and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Like, I like your jeans, it's creepy. If I just
walk up to Buck and I say I like your jeans,
it's not creepy. If I walk up to Buck and
I'm like, hey, man, I want to go see a
movie today, not creepy. If I walk up to Buck
and I'm like, I want to go see a movie, creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Please stop.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
We're violating the audience. Please for their violence, not for
eyesig It's it's it's a violation. It's it's the kin
of It's it's kin to a verbal wet Willie. What
you've just done.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I think you just described my entire music career and
their violation. All right, it is time for the single
greatest game show in the history of sports talk radio.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Buck.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
You ready for this? Hey, I feel like we're gonna synergy.
We're gonna be linked up. It's time for.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Wood.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
You rather do we get that?

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
Was?

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
That wasn't even close?

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
The delays.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I thought we figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
All right. All the presser's on, Shay, She's gonna come
in and give us a scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Would we rather one or the other?

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Buck?

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
You you're not Buck?

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Your Shae? Shay?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
You feel good? You feel ready?

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
A lot of pressures up, guys, I got some big
shoes to fill any in. He had a good time.
I don't know, I feel he does. He's a tall guy,
is he?

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
He's not taller than me, but he's tall.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I'm tall. How tall are you?

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
I'm six too?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
You're like six one? Okay? I thought you were like
six one six two?

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
That's normal?

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
What are you both?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Okay? Six to two is not normal? Five nine and
a half is normal.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Six two is normal.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
I'm six to two six two, Yeah, it's it's an
average in here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Give us?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Would you rally? You guys are ready?

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
I hope, I hope I can make this fun and
not annoying. So this one has a lot to do
with you, guys we have. Would you rather be a
overnight radio host in a local market okay? Or an
intern at a major market for a major show during

(01:17:05):
primetime hours?

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
I I'm such a clout monster. I would probably take
less money to be the intern on on the bigger show.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
I would probably, I think. I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Now maybe that's because I'm you know, I'm going a
point in my life where I'm making enough money I
don't have to worry about money anymore. But like a
part of me is still such a clout monster that
I would I would rather be the intern on the
big show.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
I'd rather be the intern on the big show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Because what the hell am I talking about overnight in
the local small market?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Am I am?

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I talking about the like Lipskim women's basketball tonight, don't
do that. I just did it to Lipskimb.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
I did it to Lipskim, and I'm not with Lipskin
Women's basketball came at you, Come at your boy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
What you got? The one fan, the one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Fan that might be listening right now might be able
to find me on Twitter and come at me. Go ahead,
say now that I've just trashed wheel, We're whil now.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
Because I wanted to give you that last one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Ah, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
This one's fun. Would you rather awaken a new superpower
every Monday that disappears Sunday night, or have one mild
but permanent superpower?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Oh, I want to awaken a new one every week,
like the Adventure of Monday Morning. You're like, oh, yes,
Plus then every week you can like figure out what
the new one's gonna be. And then some weeks you'll
be really joyous and some weeks will be frustrated.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
And I'm in on this book.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
No, I think I'd rather just have what what? What's
a mild superpower?

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Is invisibility a mild like invisibility?

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Is not mild like invisibility? Let you walk? Like if
you're invisible, that's a major superpower.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Like acid spit would be a mild superpower. Acid spit,
I feel like that's mild.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
They can spit on somebody that created you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Ever see sky high, sky high, and they were ranking
the they were ranking the people, and then the guy
with acid spit was like a mild superhero, Come.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
On, a mild superpower like sky You can't fly, but
you can float just a little bit, like you can
levitate just a little bit to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Like ease on down the road that's a mile, so
you can. You can't talk for one.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
More, All right, would you do? I don't think I
don't think we do. Chris was fun, guys, five seconds,
pretty all night.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Thanks for hagging

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