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January 20, 2025 120 mins

Chris Plank & Arnie Spanier give their reactions to the crazy ending of the Bills beating the Ravens late in the game. Plank and Arnie also ponder whether the Lions really failed their season or if they will get a pass this year. Plus, the guys talk more about Patrick Mahomes taking advantage of the refs protecting him, Arnie tells why his picks helped the state of Vermont supposedly, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
AFC and NFC championship games are set and we're here
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
What's that You nailed it? Of course you had this
well I had.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I had Miami Kansas City, but no doubt Miami would
have gotten that far ahead.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Right right right.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
And I think you had the Cowboys in the NFC
Championship game.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't remember that part.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
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I was gonna take you at your words seeing this
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(00:58):
should be. What a day for aesthetic football fans. Right,
if you like snow football, we got you and Arnie.
To be honest, I thought we got four really good games. Now, granted,
the one bad game was one of the bigger favorites
going down, the one seed going down with the Lions.
But I thought what made that so entertaining was just
I mean, the one seed went down and.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It happened on their home field.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
So I thought, for a playoffs that people and when
I say, like you, Arnie, it's the game you like
buzzer beaters. Oh yeah, those types, And there's a massive
part of the fan base of every sport that feels
that way. But I don't know if you could have
asked for a better round of divisional playoff games unless
all of them ended on some walk off field goal

(01:42):
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I thought it was great though it was.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was a good for It made up for a
lot of other games. I gotta tell you, it was
really hoping the Rams were gonna punch it in there.
I didn't feel that game sake Bark celebrating like he
had won a Super Bowl and the Eagle fans going crazy,
and all of a sudden the Rams come back there
were down by thirteen. I knew, I knew they left
the door open for that. I really thought the Rams

(02:05):
had a chance to punching that thing in.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm not gonna lie to you I feel like honesty
is the best key. When Saquon hit that run, I
had to run an air so because what that made
it a two score game? Yeah, and I thought it's
over and so I just like, hey, I'll run the
er in now, guys, I'll be right back. So I
just listened to it. I listened to it on the radio,

(02:29):
and it was it was one of those where.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I found myself speeding home or and he's like, oh,
I gotta get home now, gotta get home now.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then I'm stopping on the side of the road
but on my exit to watch the final drive because
you want to watch it, right, so you pull it
up on your phone.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It was just it was.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
A game that at that point, when Saquon hit that run,
it was you could have tapped out if you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
But give credit to this Rams team. They started the
year one and four.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
They never tapped out, not only this season, but in
that game today and without If it wasn't for that sack,
I mean, damn, there might have pulled that thing off.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I thought they were. I really thought they were gonna
be able to do that. I thought they were gonna
be able to I don't think they ever got it
the first and goal, they were right out the twenty.
I'm like, they get it the first to goal, They're
going to win this game. I go one more, one
more first down. They're just shy. It was tough to ask.
I think they were originally at the twenty two or
whatever it was. It was just a little too far

(03:25):
out hopefully for them to score. But that's that was
a great effort. Now you gotta think what's gonna happen
next year? Is Stafford gonna be back? And what's gonna
happen there too?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Could you imagine, just just real quick for a moment,
congratulations to Philly. Don't get mad tonight, Philly, Fandre're gonna
get your flowers. This is another team that battle adversity
this year and here they are. But we're sitting here
tonight lamenting a lost opportunity for the Ravens because of
Mark Andrews drop. But Arnie, could you imagine if the
Rams would have punched that in and how Jake Elliott

(03:57):
might have been feeling this evening.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh for missing two extra.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, if if they do, like you and I both thought,
get to a situation where the Rams punch that in
and win that football game. Oh my goodness, man, that
would have you want to talk about. It's already been
a rough night for my guy, Mark Andrews. Could you
imagine what life would have been like for Jake Elliott
in Philadelphia?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think they said he was playing a good game too, No,
I'm serious, straight for.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Three on the field goals. He just couldn't make an
extra point to recap in case you missed it. With
a minute fourteen to go in the game, Matt Stafford
had driven the Rams from their own eighteen yard line
after an incredible punt to the Eagle thirteen yard line,
and on third and two, he was sacked by Jalen Carter,

(04:48):
lost nine yards and then through an incompletion of Puka
Naku and have missed the game. But yeah, the only reason, yeah,
the only reason the Rams were even in that position, honestly,
I mean because Eagles went crazy conservative by a couple
of missed extra points. Are you know we would have
been sitting on a potential two point conversion there as well.
But I thought it was a fun game, Arnie. I

(05:08):
thought it came out of the gates hot. I didn't
know what to expect that first game and the Rams
Eagles game, But I mean what each team scored on
their first possession, Like, oh my gosh, is this snow
gonna slow down anyone?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And it ended up. I just thought both games were
really fun today.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
No, it was. It was a good day for football.
It was a good day for the NFL. I'm sure
ratings were high. The are the viewers probably had a
ball watching it. I had a great time. So the
whole weekend long Saturday and Sunday was a great two
days for the NFL.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Did let's focus on the Bills Ravens game for just
a bit here. Yeah, the Bills didn't really do anything
to inspire confidence that they can go win in Kansas City,
did they?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But then again, I'm not all that confident that Kansas City,
even if the Great Digson's game is a team that's
cleaning and see without.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
His Josh shop Yeah, Josh Allen, all right.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
If he's able to go ahead and pull it off
without having a great game, he's gonna have to play
a lot better against Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
The numbers and I feel like we are a big
stats slash numbers show. We're kind of box office or
excuse me box score and box office. We're kind of
box score watchers a little bit. But there was nothing
statistically from Josh Allen where you'd step back and say, ohoh,
he only threw for one hundred and twenty seven yards.
He was sacked ones didn't really run the ball a

(06:35):
ton successfully. He threw it twenty two times. He ran
it ten times for just twenty yards. I'm still I
know the turnovers or the story, but Arnie, the Ravens
had more first downs, they were better on third down.
They ran two fewer total plays, but had like one

(06:57):
hundred and fifty more yards than the Bill. They averaged
three more yards per play, yeah, a little under three,
seven point three to four point six. They averaged eight
point nine yards per pass to five point five. They
out rushed them. They were just just scoot in the
red zone. That had a handful more penalties and were
right there in time of possession. Every statistical category the

(07:19):
Ravens won, and dare I say dominated, but three turnovers
man to zero you can't have. I know, Lamar lost
it a little bit in the post game, and he should, right.
I still, I mean, there's a part of me just
even looking back I'm like, Wow, the Bills won that
football game thanks.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
To the Ravens. You mentioned it, the turnovers and the mistakes.
Lamar Jackson fumble led to seven points. That was a scoop.
I thought they were going to score on that. Von
Miller caught it about the twenty, but they were able
to go ahead it and get it in the end
zone and called me crazy. I thought they did a
pretty good job. I'm Derrick Henry. Even though he had
average five yards of carry, I thought they did a

(07:56):
pretty good job keeping him on the other one hundred yards.
You keep him under one hundred, you've done a good job.
And that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I know some fans are upset because they felt like
Monkin went away from Derrick Henry too much. I mean again,
I think you're right. You look and you see five
point three yards per carry. He had a couple of
chunk runs, but I did. I thought Buffalo did a
good job. So it's it's a weird feeling, right because
you have an NFC championship game that nobody expected, and

(08:23):
you have an AFC championship game. We're listen, don't get
us wrong. Kansas City and Buffalo did what they were
supposed to do to get here, But I mean, both
teams have kind of been underwhelming, and I know you
guys don't care, and you shouldn't if you're a Kansas
City or a Buffalo fan. Right next Sunday, you're gonna
play and it's gonna be awesome, and it's gonna probably
break TV ratings records for an NFLAFC champions You'll.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Either're gonna be there next week, like minus eighty degrees
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Did you see where the snow's actually hitting and where
the winter blast is right now?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
No hat shouts out, Houston? What's going on? Houston?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Where are my friends now of the Houston are h
Town's getting the snow election down through like almost into
Florida where they're getting the severe cold weather this week.
So we'll dig and get a weather update later on tonight.
But hey, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't matter how
we paint their performance. You can feel whatever way you

(09:17):
want to feel about it. But aren't he in the end,
both Kansas City and Buffalo really didn't wow I think
any of us. Now, Mahomes had to throw right, Mahomes
had to throw right, and the bottom line more than
anything else.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Is he got a few calls too that shape that game, and.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Then oh Diddy, I didn't I've never noticed, but no,
I didn't know. I did say on Twitter that's something
you don't see every day. Kansas City, Yeah, call in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
And then Buffalo kind of took advantage of the mistakes.
So to me, more than anything else, I'm real fascinating
to see if we finally get the best of both
of those teams, because I feel like more often than not,
we haven't seen what we think is the best to
Buffalo and Kansas City this year. Now we get a
chance to see him play on the biggest stage.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Isn't it interesting? The two star quarterbacks in the NFL,
Patrick Mahomes, well, forget about Lamar Jackson for a second.
With Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen both had one hundred
and two hundred yards passing. Both are going to be
playing in the AFC Championship with a chance to go
to the Super Bowl. I guess that whole myth of
you have to have a quarterback that plays really well

(10:24):
all the time is the only way you can win
in the NFL. But as you see it's really more
about turnovers Buffalo. Now, the turnovers and the mistakes and
the Ravens did and that was the difference maker there,
Chris Well.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And then again you say that, and we watched one
and the Lions committed a lot of mistakes, but Jalen
Daniels was the playmaker that made all the difference in Washington.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
And yeah, the reason why they are where they are. Well,
just one thing on the Lions.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I just thought they had so many injuries coming into
that game anyway, especially on defense, and Hutchinson and and
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, Chris, all those injuries with Hutchinson and blah
blah blah.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You're not You're gonna give any other players some kudos there?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, the running back that came back to Montgomery Montomery. Yeah, yeah,
and just there was so many defensively, I just think
they were just beat at the end. They're gonna be
much better next year. They're very emotional about that. They're
not going to be I.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Mean, what's gonna happen with their offensive coordinator, what's gonna
happen with their defensive coordinator?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, you know what I think about coordinators, But I
hear what you're saying that.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, yeah, they don't matter at all. Look at what
Cliff Kingsbury he's done. Look at what's happening. Are you
telling me this is all on dan Quinn right now?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
In Washington?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's going to have to be right. Didn't I send
you a story about they're gonna lose their coordinators or not?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
They might everyone right now?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
No one is hired anyone except for the Patriots, right,
and the Patriots have hired vrabel and and one other
thought on I guess you could say that the lingering
issues with the two teams that lost today and maybe
even pulling it out for the four teams in general
that are that are going home, including the Lions, And
the Lions will build a great roster. So I'm with you,
they're going to be back. But I think the Bears

(12:09):
are going to be better next year. Yes, Packers are
going to be better next year. Every Vikings fan keeps
telling me that they're gonna be better next year with
JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Is the NFC northover rated as they all lost?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I just think that they the Vikings ran into a
tough situation with the Lions, and you just excused away
the Lions, the Lions, the Vikings ran into a busaw,
the Rams in their situation, and you just excuse, excuse
away everything for.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
The Lions, right, I mean, Wow, they had injuries.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's fine, so uh, note to self every time a
team has an injury, like to uh like the Lions defense.
And Ardie says, it's okay to lose, but the Lions
are fine. I agree with you. But I do think
there's something special about the way their offense is coordinated
and the way that their defense is put together, and
I don't think Dan Campbell has a hand in that.
So what are the Lions going to do to replace

(12:57):
Aaron Glenn who's likely going to be the next head
coach of the Jet and Ben Johnson who's either going
to be the head coach of the Jaguars or the Raiders.
And then in the Rams you brought this up and
you sent a note to me before the show even started.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Are they in the quarterback game right now?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
And are we sure that Matt Stafford's coming back next
year because he was a little evasive about it in
the post game.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, I'm absolutely shocked about that. I didn't know his
contract status. I didn't know is he does he have
Detroit White could always retire.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Right He don't think that's more they's thought about his
contract or whether or not he wants to retire.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
And didn't I say this a long time well not
a long time ago, but I said it earlier this year.
This would be my last go around for Matthew Stafford,
especially as they started one and four. I said, this
guy's been through a lot. His wife has been through
a lot medically. I mean a whole heck of a lot.
He's out of phenomenal career, He's a Hall of Famer,
he's got his Super Bowl. I mean, he's enjoyed a

(13:52):
great life in LA. Maybe it is time to retire,
called Quinson, and move on and let somebody else take
on over. Even if he comes back, it's only gonna
be for one year.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It seems like I don't know, man, I thought he
looked prett damn good.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
If I was in LA right now and I'm Sean McVay,
it doesn't seem like they have a guy waiting in
the wings.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And you know, you got the draft, and I think
I think there's a few other options.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
These options in this draft beyond joshud Or Sanders and
cam Ward for teams. And you know, as we get
closer to the NFL Draft, we can kind of suss
through that a bit.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But I don't know, Arnie.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I know he's gonna be thirty seven next year, and
he had he has a potential out in his contract
next season, but he he's still he's still a forty
nine million dollar cap hit for them, right, And that's
like at eighteen percent of their cap right now. And
get this, in twenty twenty six, Matt Stafford fifty three

(14:46):
point six million dollar capet. Wow, according to spow Track.
So they would have to massage that a bit. But financially,
he's got every reason he wants to return. It's just
physically and mentally where is he? And then Goscha he
goes Arnie that that's kind of open up things a
little bit more in the in the NFC West too, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Doesn't get it does make it tough to leave when
you bring up that type of money, though, Chris does
it You're oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well that may cap it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean his his base salary for the next two years,
twenty three mil next year in twenty six the following season.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Now, that might not be enough for him to stick around.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Twenty three million dollars a year, and then you add
a signing bonus of twelve mil that was in that
So I mean twenty three mil wouldn't be enough for
you to stick around another season.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well, he's made a lot up time.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, how much of a high roller are you
up here in Vermont right now?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I don't know that's enough for me to stick around,
But I mean, as it stands right now, you know,
he's close to twenty percent of their cap, so that's
a massive number.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
But we followed the Ben Mallard credo.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
We went with the story as always in the losing
locker room, and did so by sparing Mark Andrews even
more shrapnel than he's sitting tonight.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So when we come back, we'll go through each game
and kind of plays and thoughts that stood out as
always your take or pair.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Themount to this program. You can find us on x
Arnie is a stinking genius one. I'm at Plank Show.
Everybody should go follow us at Fox Sports Radio. Todd Furman,
We'll be in the house coming up in our number
two plus with the locker room and all the postgame reaction.
Coming up on a reaction Divisional Championship. I guess Divisional
Round nine as we get set for Championship Sunday with

(16:21):
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Speaker 2 (16:36):
All right, It'sarni and Plank on a Fox Sports Sunday.
The championship games are set. It'll be Washington and Philadelphia.
The Bills at Kansas City currently the Eagles are set
is a five and a half point favorite, Chiefs at
a point.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
We'll talk to Todd Ferman about those lines next hour.
Anything about them surprise you.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
No, But there was a little controversy on the over
under Kansas City Buffalo, I guess were competing not casinos,
but like off short places. One forty seven and a
half the other forty nine and a half. Pretty big
for opening numbers that just coming out to have a
two point discrepancy. So I'm not sure which which way

(17:16):
they finally said, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
With you, ESPN bad has it at forty eight and
a half.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
If you want to right in the middle about that.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, so you pick. But you mentioned the weather too
in Kansas City next week. We'll get that in a bit.
Philly was pretty nasty today too.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean it was. It was great for us watching
it home, but that looked tough to play.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
In it did. I didn't think the weather was going
to be a factor that much of a factor. Excuse
me when the when the game started, but it really did.
Even though the game went over. All the games are
three of the four of the games went over. So
whether yeah, weather was bad, but they're still have to
put points on the board.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh, I didn't even realize that. So three of the
four games went over.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, Chiefs worth thirty seven. I believe that was the
only under because Eagles Rams went the fifty, Phil's Ravens
went fifty two, and Commander's Lions was up in seventy six. There.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I know, a ten day forecast isn't the most incredible
thing to look at. You'll try to give you weather projections,
but here we go next Sunday in Kansas City. Twenty
four percent chance of rain. That's very that's kind of
normal and if you look at any ten day forecast
across like the Midwest or the Southwest, it's usually about
twenty percent chances of rain, but north winds, it actually

(18:35):
looks okay.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
High of fifty four, not bad, not bad.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
For at all, No, no, nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
You would have.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
This is where Arnie tells you that last year, if
that would have been the weather for the Dolphins game,
that they would have won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Right, Well, we had to play in weather like minus
one hundred degree. We played Antarctica that game. I believe
that's right.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And the next Sunday in Philadelphia eleven mile an hour
wins out of the west. That's not too bad in
a high of forty five, very low chance of precipitation.
So it doesn't look like we're gonna get the winter
wonderland that they're going to get across the South this week.
But in Philly and in Kansas City next week, looks
like they're gonna be pretty good weather games. You had

(19:15):
weather on literally just about everything on the Roman numal
Rundown today. You really thought it was gonna play a factor,
didn't you.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I did. I thought it would be Well, it was
a factor. It wasn't The Rams certainly had trouble moving
the ball. Well, they got the late touchdown. It was
a factor in that game, and it was an effector
with not only the turnovers, but the drops too. It
was you know, the ball was bouncing all over the place.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I I agree, I think it was. Now the Mark
Andrews fumble, that was just a good football play. That
was an amazing football play. Dude just basically punched it out.
And you know, Mark Andrew's got to be better ball security.
But you see, do you see what our buddy mustang
mania centis and this is making the round Mark Andrews

(20:01):
drop looked just like the Jackie Smith touchdown drop and
the Cowboys Steelers Super Bowl. Surprisely, no one on the
four letter made that comparison. Now, again, that was a
touchdown pass in the back of the end zone. This
was a two point conversion pass that was right on
the goal line. But the implications, you know, seem kind
of fitting right there. You felt like, if the Ravens
would have won that game, I'm sorry, if the Ravens

(20:24):
would have got that two point conversion, that had a
really good chance of going into overtime and winning that game.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
You go back to what year was that, like seventy
seventy eight in the Super Bowl. He probably felt like
the Cowboys were going to win that Super Bowl. So
I just got wrenching. Man.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
You see that there was still plenty of time for Buffalo,
what was like one forty or one and a half,
so they sure still they could have still come not
easily and got a field goal out of this.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I don't know if anything field goal wise was easy
in that weather.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Been. Oh gosh, that's good.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
You know what I mean, Griz, I have no idea
what you just said. You can't twelve.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
When I saw andrews open, I'm like, oh, that's that's good.
I just assumed it was a tie game. And then
because I didn't see it clearly, and then when they
showed it, I go, did he step out of bounds?
Did he screw up? I didn't see him drop the
ball initially when they were saying it was no good,
so I couldn't believe that he dropped it when he

(21:21):
when I saw him so wide open, I thought for
sure he was gonna catch him.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
How did how did your wife handle things? Her team
again is on the cusp of a trip to the
Super Bowl, right right.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Now, she's you know, pretty much even keeled because she
knows what's in store for her next weekend. Take it on,
kansasse how are we going to be? Kansas City? We
had no defense, We had no defense, and you know,
and during the playoffs, what is Kansas City three and
zero against Buffalo? It's going it's going to be tough.
It's it's a tough go around here.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know, do you is there? Here's what I'm trying
to find.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Let's just say Buffalo is a better team because Kansas
City only a point and have favored in that game.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
So in your mind, you would say, here on see,
what is today's date? Before we hit midnight on January?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
What day nineteen? It's only the nineteenth? Oh my, yeah, gosh,
this month is never ending.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
On January nineteenth, twenty twenty five, hour and a half before,
or at least for me in the Central time zone,
before we flip to Monday, you're saying you think you
think Buffalo is a better team than Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well that's what the numbers are telling.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now I'm asking I don't care what the numbers, So
I'm asking Arnie Spaniard, I.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Do think Buffalo is a better team. Yeah, it might
not have shown today on the football field, but it's
not like Kansas City's wowed us anyway. We brought that up.
I do think that Buffalo is the better team. The
number is telling you that Buffalo is a better team
because Kansas City easily is a four point home court
home field advantage, right, maybe even more than that. So

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the fact that they're only a point and to have
favorite shows you that if this was on the neutral site,
Buffal would probably be a three point favorite.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
In that game.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I also think that there is a chance, as this
week goes on, I think that number will trend towards
Kansas City. I think people are gonna see a point.
I get a point in a half, all right, I'm sorry,
I'm only having to kill a point in a half
at home and for Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think that number is gonna grow a little bit.
Could be wrong, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Think, and I'm not trying to take anything away from you,
Paul or Bills fans.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I think you know it.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You won the game. No one can take that from you.
It wasn't the most outstanding performance, but I think people
are gonna see value in the Chiefs. Next week we'll
talk to Todd Furman coming up, and obviously Arnie's has
his picks as then I progresses. But listen, we're all
about details, facts and entertainment here on this program. And
no one is better at all three than Steve the Saker,
who comes rolling in. He gets caught up on the

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day in sports. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Steve? Hello again, gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
We had playoff divisional playoff wins for Buffalo and Philadelphia,
so apparently now as we get ready for the conference
title games next weekend, the Chiefs franchise has been to
six Super Bowls. Washington has been to five. Wow, Philadelphia
has been to four so far, and Buffalo four, losing
four straight in the early nineties. We updated the well,

(24:05):
actually there was no update needed last night the trivia
question what four current NFL teams have never even appeared
in a Super Bowl? There's two old franchises and two
new ones. Jaguars haven't been, Texans haven't been. Texans haven't
even been to a conference title game. But the Cleveland
Browns and Detroit Lions still have never been to a

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Super Bowl. There's a handful of teams that have been
and lost like Arizona Chargers Tennessee their one appearance there.
The Baltimore Ravens missed two two point passes in the
second half and lost by two points season over Buffalo
twenty seven, twenty five. So the Ravens finish at thirteen
and six, six and four on the road. There was

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the late drop, as you mentioned by Mark Andrew. Mark
Andrews also had that fumble. We can't forget that, man.
And as we talk, and you know this is going
to happen tomorrow, so let's just get it in advance.
As people talk about the late drop, you actually have
to talk about Lamar Jackson's day as well. These are
two sides of the exact same coin. Yes, he wound

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up with two touchdown passes, but two turnovers as well.
His fumble led to a touchdown in the first half
in what turned out to be a very close game.
Derrick Henry in the lost sixteen carries eighty four yards
and a touchdown. So how have the Ravens done on
two point attempts? Associated Press says since twenty eighteen twelve

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for twenty nine only about forty percent success on two
point tries for the Baltimore Ribbons.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That would be bad.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
In fact, how about while you're trailing in the fourth quarter,
Lamar Jackson in his career going for two, two for nine,
Oh my god, I'm trailing in the fourth quarter. That's
terrible and needless to say, that includes don't you think
those got today?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
That includes tonight these.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Two with is as much of a threat as he
is when he gets out sidel like running it that
that would be almost eight of nine or almost nine
of nine.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
And of course he rolled out and was clear as
the tight end was clear on that late pass about
a minute and a half to go. Another thing we
should say in advance, people are saying cost him the game.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
No, not nearly.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
The two point conversion would have tied the game, and
then Josh Allen would have had a minute and a
half left and Tyler Bass had just kicked a fifty
one yard field early in the fourth. So once again,
please let facts get in the way if I can
put it that way, and start discussing this game in
the next twenty four hours. The amazing stat of course,
from the folks at Stead see the Baltimore Ravens did

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all of this in the same game as a team
rushed for at least one hundred and seventy five yards,
completed seventy percent of their passes, averaged at least ten
yards per pass tonight, converted seventy percent of their third downs,
didn't have a single punt, didn't miss a single field goal.
No team in NFL well history, had done all those

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things in one game, playoffs or otherwise, and they still
end up losing the game. Each team scored three touchdowns tonight,
each team was two for two on field goals, but
the Ravens couldn't make a two point pass and they
lose by two. So we've got the AFC Championship Game
as the second contest next Sunday, Buffalo at Kansas City.

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The Bills beat them in Buffalo in November. The NFC
Championship is on Fox TV next Sunday, three pm Eastern Time,
Washington at Philadelphia, same division. They split their two regular
season meetings, and correct no snow in the forecast.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
For that one Monday night.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
College Football's national title game in Atlanta, eight seed Ohio
State against seven seed Notre Dame. Everything's final in the NBA.
Once we wrap up this, oh And it has just
gone final, this game where Portland actually wins one thirteen,
one oh two over the Bulls. Clippers in their home
arena which just opened this season, beat the Lakers pretty
easily one sixteen, one oh two. Other win for Oklahoma City, Milwaukee,

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and Sacramento with home victories, And in college Hoops Top
twenty matchup at Michigan State went to the Spartans over
Illinois eighty two seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Back to you, all right, thanks Steve.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
We're coming to you live from the tire rack dot
Com studios tyre rack dot Com. The way tire buying
should be. Yeah, and Mark Andrew's gonna take heat, you know.
I mean, he's an Oklahoma guy, so I'm gonna support him,
and I got stories I'll share throughout the night about him.
But Arnie, you got to keep it in mind. You
said it. The Sagre just brought it up. The Bills
are gonna get the football back even if he makes

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that play.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So and a minute and a half left to go
ahead and win the game. Anyway, nybe, I heard Willard
bring this up. Does this make a difference in anything
that I guess Before the game, there's video of Andrews out.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
There, well, but everyone does that.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Every single Twitter feed on the planet does that with
a from the Ravens to the commanders to the chiefs.
Everyone always has someone warming up and take a videos
like Shaw walked in ready to go, not afraid of
the cold.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right, that's what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Right that he was wearing shorts and a tank top.
I never understood one thing. If it's gonna be real cold,
why don't you just put on the long sleeves shirts.
And I'm talking about all the players especially, you get
kind of like a better grip, Your hands don't get cold,
your arms don't get as cold, and maybe you hold
onto the ball better. I just understand why every rea's

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not putting on long sleeves, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, some say the long sleeves, uh take away? It
doesn't right right right from talking to the foot I
don't know. I just know I've never really understood that
when I'm cold, I want to be bundled up.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I mean, did you see the defensive tackle for the Bills.
I think it was Jordan Phillips had like a winter
jacket on underneath his uniform.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
That's what I would be doing. I would probably wear
a scarf too, is what I would be doing. It's
even if you live in the cold weather, aren't it sucks?
It does.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
That's why I have in my car. I have the
cold weather package so I can start my car up.
I started like twenty minutes early before I go out.
It's nice and toasty by the time I get to
the car.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Can I We've talked a lot about the frustration for
the Ravens. Maybe we haven't spent enough time tipping our
cap to the Bills and the Eagles for advancing today.
But can I had one more thing that blew my
mind when I saw it about the about the Rams,
just as a tip of the cap to them.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
This year. They only have two first round picks on
their roster since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, yeah, they do a trading of those two.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, let me rephrase that two players they picked in
the first round since twenty sixteen, and one of them
was Jared Urts, who ended up being great out of
Florida State this year.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
The first round pick.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Do you know the other one is since twenty sixteen,
that was the first round pick by the Rams.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
No, who is that?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Jared Golf?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Oh my gosh, right, So, I mean, they don't even
have one of their first round picks on their roster
over the last eight years, and they have just done
such an incredible job of finding value in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,
and seventh rounds.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's incredible, especially wide receiver right with Cooper. My god,
it's incredible what they've done.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So I think in a lot of ways how Detroit
is put together their roster, they're the envy of the
NFL right now. Man, I still I just can't get
over how the Rams do it year in and year out,
and even you know, even in their down year whenever
Stafford got hurt a couple of years ago, remember they
brought in Baker Mayfield beat the Raiders on a Thursday
night when he'd been there for two days.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
They're just they find a way.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
And I know that it's frustrating whenever you won a
Super Bowl and you haven't quite got back to that
level over the last three years yet. But man, if
they just start a little bit better, look out. I mean,
I just mcveigh's a witch man less Snead has done
an incredible job.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I know.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
We close the door on twenty twenty four and into
twenty five, we start preparing. But I mean, even if
Matt Stafford decides to retire and not come back, are
you doubting at all? If the Rams are going to
find someone that Sean McVay can make mark in that offense.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
They'll get a quarterback. But I don't think he's going
to retire. I think I don't even I think he'll
come back. You know, he'll give a little bit of thought,
but I think he'll come back when when it's a
And by the way, so you were mentioning the Lions. Yeah,
I was kind of thrown back. Campbell very emotional he
was after the game. Did you expect that or what?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I feel like that's kind of become his momo.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think he's just wearing it. And I think they
feel like they missed a golden opportunity this year. How
can you not?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I know it was like it was a close game,
that's no.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, no, they got smoked, right, And I think Dan
Campbell gets it, and I think a majority of fans
of a team that struggled for a really long time
get it. These opportunities just don't come every single year, right,
you know, you know that you're in good shape, but
you also know you're an injury away from things going

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south or just like it did.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
This year for him. So I think it's emotional because they.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Dude, I felt like if you went back to the
middle of it, before the Aide Hutchinson injury and maybe
even a little bit after it, I still felt like
they were a team that was going to end up
playing in the Super Bowl, right, So it really did.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
So he's emotional because he knows it doesn't come around
all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And he's coordinators probably right there.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
They are number one seed, they lose, So is the
whole season a complete waste of time? Then it's a
complete failure.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well let's talk about that next. It's Arnie in Plank
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1 (33:31):
So you asked the question, Arnie, and I think it's
a fair one.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
As a Lions fan or just someone that is an
NFL fan boy that's hopefully one hundred percent of our audience.
And I based on where this show is going, ye
would you look at this season for the Lions as
a disappointment because it came up short of its goal.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Well, you changed the word disappointment a little.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Of course, it's not a disappointment overall.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
But with all the Cats, they talked, oh my gosh,
line fans. You went from being oh, look, how good
for them to be insufferable in the span of like
six months.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'm gonna say it's not a failure. They won the division,
they were the number one seed. They're still taking baby steps,
they're still digging their way out of a bad what
fifty years or so, sure of being the Detroit Lions. Now,
if this happened to the Kansas City Chiefs, whether the
number one seed and they lost, absolutely the seasons of failure.

(34:32):
If it happened in Philadelphia, seasons of failure, Baltimore seasons
of failure, Buffalo seasons of failure. But for some reason,
I'm not willing to put that label on Detroit because
it's still somewhat new to them to win a division,
to be a number one seed. And they did play
a hot team in the Commanders, though still should have

(34:53):
won that game. And then there was the injuries, so
all of that I'm gonna say, no, it wasn't a failure,
but for a lot of other teams.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
It would have been. Okay, Well, you are really given
the Lions a pass tonight. I don't give it too
much of a pass to them. I don't know, it's
just it seems like you are. And I'm not denying
it or arguing with you. But you mentioned the history.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Two things happened in back to back seasons that haven't
happened in the history of the Detroit Lions. They won
ten or more games that have never happened in their
team's history.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I say school's history.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Never that twelve and five last year are two years
agoing out fifteen and two last year, and they had
never won their division in back to back seasons ever,
and they did that this year. So you know, they
maybe if there's anyone in their fan base that's that's
crying about that or they all tear it down.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
No stop, No, they're not doing that. Nobody's saying that.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's a really well I don't going that for it's
a really solid roster and I don't think they're going
anywhere now.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
By the way, Campbell should have a job as long
as Tomlin's at a job in Pittsburgh's. That's how much
he's turned around of culture. Well, there should never be
a question whether if he should be that coach.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, hold on, I think you misconstrued when I said
tear it down. I think a lot of times people
view that as firing a coach. There is a faction
of that fan base that I think says, we've got
to do some things different roster wise, like, hey, what's
Hinton Hooker doing there? Is he going to be a
starting quarterback ever in this league or not? Why are
we paying Jared Goff to turn it over four times?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't think Dan Campbell is ever going to go
anywhere unless the bottom early falls out the next two years.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
And it wasn't even a game yesterday where you could
get mad at him for their overly aggressive approach, but
disappointed absolutely failure. No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I think that that is that is really a tough
label to put on a team that did what they
did overcame as you brought up Arnie, all those defensive injuries,
named one guy and everything that. I mean, Listen, a
lot of time they were their own worst enemy, and
their losses man their turnover socked.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I forgot which announcers said that. Don't be surprised if
Gibbs becomes the number one starter for Detroit, Montgomery goes
to probably a backup role or who knows? I said,
you know, do you have that luxury of keeping both
guys or do you trade one and try to go ahead?
And because you can get a nice little return for
one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You would think.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
But oh, I mean, Arnie, you're you're losing your mind
about David Montgomery? Who I mean you've got under contract
until twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Oh, he would bring a nice little handsome reward there.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
What do you think you could get for David Montgomery
into trade?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Would I get a first round?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
No, get he's available for a first Roundrob all ears
for that.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Would you would?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
If you're the Dolphins, you would trade your first round
pick for David Montgomery?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
No, I'm saying if if I'm Detroit, I'm listening to dolphers.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
That okay, Well, you're not getting a first round pick
for him. Don't think you're getting a second round pick
for me either.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Oh wow, then forget about it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's me. That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I don't then I don't think there's any running back
in the league right now that you're gonna get a
first round pick for I'll tell you what. I know
that you're a little bit I would say jaded because
every so often your Giant fandom comes out. But if
you want to talk about a fan base that should
be jilted and bittered and frustrated about things, watching Saquon

(38:30):
do this in Philadelphia, Oh my gosh, Arnie, Giants fans
have got to be losing their minds, right.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, but he's had so many years in New York.
He was never gonna go ahead. And really, I mean
not that he wasn't a great player for New York,
but he was never gonna put up that type of
year with the Giants like you did with Philadelphia. Two different,
you know, two different type of organizations, and Philadelphia is
just so much better from top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I feel like I feel like you're having this moment
where I need to be like, hey, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault, all right, just just you're trying
to deny it.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
It's so ok.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
It sucks. You can excuse it away all you want.
Giants fans, but it sucks. I mean, that's your.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Rival, right, are the little shocked at the Giants rival.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I was a little shocked that he gave Daniel Jones
a ticket to the suite. I thought they were like
I wanted them to be like bitter enemies or something.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You wanted Saquon and Daniel Jones to be hated enemy exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, we hate each other.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Eagles advance.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
They'll host the NFC Championship game next week against Philadelphia.
Twenty eight to twenty two was the final score over
the Rams. Bill survive against the Ravens twenty seven to
twenty five. They'll take on the Chiefs next Sunday. Those
start times three o'clock eastern for the Commander's Eagles game.
That's gonna be on Fox Bill's Chiefs six thirty eastern

(39:46):
on the CBS.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Took a nap, didn't have to get them so early,
kind of like those Star times. Chris, not too bad.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, and uh, it just it seemed like it flowed.
I don't like when it takes too long between games.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't like that. I don't like that. I like
that it seemed to flow rather quickly. Okay, we're just
getting started.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
One hour down, two to go your text to kickoff
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Speaker 3 (40:33):
You're right the way seven to one on my picks,
fourteen to two over the last couple wek not too
shabby on not too bad.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
You have proof of this. I haven't seen your picks
posted anywhere.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I put it on Twitter. Well, what do you mean,
it's like I sent you that. I think it's one
of the biggest sports stories of the year, only put
on Twitter. What about that?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Well, what's one of the biggest sports story of the
year is the AFC Championship In NFC Championship Games being said.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
How great I picked this year?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
This year? Yeah, the whole season.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Well, I started off solaw, but I picked it up
after that.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
He started slow. Listen, quit lying to the people. Okay,
put I.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Sent you the article, did I not?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
I have it right here. You want me to read
it to you?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
One of the biggest gambling stories of twenty twenty four
was the success of sports betters in Vermont. Betters did
so well that the state didn't make enough tax revenue
from sports books to meet its physical year budget projections.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Well you don't bet, though, you just talk about who do.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
You think gave the winners to the people of Vermont?
It was me, Well, what do you think they're getting
their winners from?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I mean the opposite, the opposite. Shut that's he even
cuts them off too. It's like, right on, cue shut up.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
That was perfect to cut him out, right, I said,
shut up?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Uh? Well, I mean even you have to admit I'm
affecting the econ to me here, if you bet on
every single one of your picks this year, would you
have made money?

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I'm sure it made millions.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I'm seeing an NFC Championship games showing.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
The people in Vermont are taking my picks, and they
did so well that we can't even make money off them.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Now, it's wild.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I mean for someone who has one official betting slip
that we've seen.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Who who do you think they're taking their picks from
right here in Vermont. I'm the only person who does
a national show here in Vermont.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Have you what is like the population of Vermont? Like
ten people? I know, right, fifteen something like that? Well, congratulations?
Is that what you need here?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, I mean it would be nice to let people
know when when I was doing bad, it was due
Blank's pigs.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm still waiting for walking playing me too.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
And the second thing is you change. You'll do picks
on the air, and then you'll do something completely. It's
like you you give bets on the You're like the
old nine hundred numbers. You'll give them here and then
you'll give another pick that you write down on your pad.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So you're like hedging your bets.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
That's I just I don't give both sides.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
I'm not like a town service or something. But Arnie's answers,
I think is a good one.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Now, there you got Arnie's answers now apparently affecting the
economy of Delaware.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Congratulations Vermont, Vermont, Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
One, whatever it takes, all right, to the tweets of
the show tonight and then Todd Berman's coming up here
in a bit.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I'm curious to get your your take on Keith's tweet
to the program. I keep saying, text, tweets, exes, whatever
you want to call him. He hits us up with this.
I'm over bad weather games. Man mandate domes for every
team for maximum entertainment. I know, esthetically, the slow the
snow games are pretty freaking awesome, that's for sure. As
far as execution and fundamentals, it's not fun.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
What about for Super Bowls? Are you for both dome
games for Super Bowls?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Gosh, we had them. We have the rain super Bowl
for the Colts. I feel like the weather games are
few and far between the Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
In we had New York one year. I forget, but
it was nice.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I like the elements being a part of it.
I do keep, but I completely understand where you're coming from.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I don't like the elements to be a part of
it if it's not really it's somebody's home field, is
my point, Even if it's a neutral site that I'd
rather have it just be good weather and let's play
the game.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
How many super Bowls are actually not in domes over
the next few seasons.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Oh, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Look the future sites for Super Bowls because this year
is in New Orleans, Non Leans. Next year is a
Levi Stadium that's outdoors, but that's Santa Clara, right. Then
you have Sofi Stadium. Then you're in Mercedes Benz Stadium
in Atlanta. So three of the next four are indoors anyway,
So I don't I mean, and I don't know if

(44:52):
they're set beyond twenty twenty eight, more often than not
they're indoors anyway, Are you are you moving?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Aren't officially throwing it out that you're okay with weather
games in divisional and conference championship games, but you want
domes for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, if it's going to be a home field, then
let's go whatever the home team has weatherwise installed. But
if it's not home field, forget about it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Though.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Bake right, Buffalo is six points better than Kansas City
take away three for Arrowhead and a point and a
half for the refs. Really really rough weekend for the Chiefs.
Don't get the calls crowd.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Right, Look, that didn't affect the game. But I will
say this, I am so tired of the Mahomes. What
do you want to call it? The Vladi devots flop
or whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's never really old school. People usually go with James
Harden now, but you want to go back to Vlade.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I'm here for he's the one that Isn't he the
reason why we had to have a rule about it?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I believe, Well, let's find out. Let's see what Google
Ai tells you.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
But the push on the sideline in the back where
he went flying, Chris, I'll stop it. And you know what,
the way he purposely slows down on the sideline hoping
to get hit because he knows it's like third and
seventeen and he's not going to pick up the first down.
And I'm just sick and tired of it. I can't
wait till somebody knocks him on his back.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So I thought it was an I've said this a
lot on this show. I've brought it up many times.
To me, Mahomes is inevitable. The chiefs are inevitable. They're
just that good you got accepted. But when he does
things like that, I think that's one of the more
unbecoming things that he does to the game because that's

(46:36):
taking advantage of a role that's protecting him. Remember let's
go back to the Kiney Pickett in it was the
a SEC championship game and the fake slide, remember that
in college football, the fake slide and everyone let up
and he just kept running.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Mahomes does that constant?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Who did they can play it about? Is that who
they can played about when he came into the other fel.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Maybe not so. I think he did it one time
and they changed the rule.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
There was somebody they were complaining about, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
But the bottom line here to me is that's the
next step in this protection of quarterbacks is now guys
like Mahomes and I'm sure others it's just Patrick plays
on TV more than anyone. They're taking advantage of it
and if a defense breathes on them, they get a foul.
I mean that the personal foul on will Anderson was

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atrocious and you might say it didn't factor into the game.
That gave the Chiefs a first down when they were
gonna have to punt, and it led to their first score,
which they weren't moving the ball all that well against
Houston at all. Now I'm not saying calls won them
the football game. But the bottom line, more than anything
else is they take advantage of it. So that's what
sucks even more, and they're getting them. Patrick Mahomes knows

(47:44):
how to play the game, and he's doing it well.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I think that moment on Saturday was the first time
we're like, look at this. What kind of nbabs is this?
That he's rolling over there with a flop on the side.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah, that's the one you're talking about, right.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well, yeah, wasn't that what you were talking about?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I have got me. That got my blood boiled. I'm like,
and he was still inbound too, Griz, So it shouldn't
have been a penalty even at all because he when
he put his hands on me, he was still inbound.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Roger the Engineer, my arch nemesis, has still found a
way to get into the program, he says. The Chiefs
defense doesn't give the respect datasert how about the eight
sacks against Houston. Mahomes of the offense will work the
bugs out after the long layoff and be ready whether
they get an extra day to get ready.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
For some long wayoff. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
John Wrights Arnie when his plank going to recognize that
what a legend you are in the industry.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
That's true. When are you going to recognize that?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I I when your picks are batter I mean, you're
getting hot here late. But this is like a three
game losing streak at the end of the year for
a team that's like twenty games under five hundred in baseball?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Like, what do I do? Am? I?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Hey, congratulations on winning a few games. The people of
Vermont loved me, I mean do they?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I don't know. I don't usually leave my house.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
He's gonna do to even know you.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Josh Wright's not saying Mahomes is the goat yet, but
he's got to have the greatest start to a career now, right,
even without winning next week? Seven straight AFC title games,
four super Bowls, three Super Bowl wins, three Super Bowl MVPs,
a regular season MVP. I mean, come on, yeah, it's
I think you might be giving him one more MVP

(49:25):
than he's received in the Super Bowl. But Aarnie, my gosh, man,
it's it's hands down from day one when he took
go over his the start, because remember he didn't start
his rookie year, right, one of the greatest, if not
the greatest start to an NFL player's career. And maybe
I don't want to get too carried away here, but
maybe any athlete in sports history. Dude, he's gone to

(49:45):
the championship game seven straight years, and they're probably gonna
go to the Super Bowl again next week. If the
odds played out right, they're.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Point half favored right now. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
There's only one other person I can think of. I
can't think of his name, of course, great, but he
won an Olympic gold medal in hockey with the USA,
and then and then went to the Islanders, and I
believe won four straight Stanley Cups. The four next year's.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Four straight Stanley Cuffs.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
I believe the Islanders had four in row? Did they not?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I don't know. You're asking me a hockey question. Oh,
can't forget about Ken Morrow? My Kinmorrow? Yeah, Ken Morrow,
That's who it was. Ken Morrow won an Olympic gold
medal and four consecutive Stanley cuft I think, so, I mean,
this is what Google is telling me.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
So there you gotta look at me pulling that out
of my head. How about that, big boy?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, I mean, is that still more impressive than seven
straight trips to an AFC Championship game and three Super
Bowl wins and trying to become the first team ever
went back to back to back club.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
But it's a close second there with the Morrow.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I just and I appreciate you not knowing the name either,
which literally you could have googled the same thing.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I go with it, but I you know, that's a
pretty good pull out of your backside, there, is it not?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
It would have been even more impressive if you would
have gone just this is my idea here thought you're
the legend.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I mean, dare I give it there?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
You maybe you google Olympic gold medal winner, two Islanders,
four straight Stanley Cups, and then you could say you
ever heard of Ken Morrow instead of this guy? This
guy somewhere did this.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Still, you didn't give me enough time to do that.
You just kind of threw it out there. I only
had like three I alway could do it off the
top of my head.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Jason Bean Diamond Rights.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
The Chiefs went sixteen to one counting games in the
playoffs they cared about. I don't have the script, but
I would never bet against Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
If that's so true, then why are they just a
poorting that favorite next week?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Who cares about? Why does that matter?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
It does?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Well?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
That's that's the big indicator, is it?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
What?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
How is that an indicator for the Lions and the
Commander's game?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
How that play out.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Well for them? That's uh, mister nobody.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
The Steelers have been my favorite team since nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I became a.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Fan when my dad and I flew to Pittsburgh suburb
for an ECW Wrestling pay per view?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Do you do you even know what ECW is?

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Aren't I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Tommy Dreamer, mister nobody. He right about sliding Jim.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
But after eight straight playoff losses, enough is enough. I'm
rejoining my other faith from college, the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
No Arnie effect.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I hope that's my Bills. I was rooting for them
all hard this.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh no, mister Nobody, you get on the right bandwagon,
and now Arnie just curses you.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I thought he was gonna tell you wanted to trade
Tomlin when all those rumors came out, and I was
laughing about all those rumors trading coaches until Bernie Fradle
told me it's happened. Like eight times where coaches have
been traded.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Bernie Frattle had to tell you we talked about it
like two weeks ago on the show.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
What. No, we didn't say it happened like eight times, though.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
We absolutely did. Did it got traded? Belichick? Part Sales
has been traded. I think part Sales has been traded twice.
He never listens to the show, never listens to me.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I gotta start listening.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Paul Wrights Plank, You're not gonna ruin tonight for me.
The Bills put up twenty seven points in awful weather.
They scored forty eight against the Lions and thirty against
the Chiefs. They have been dominant all year. Have they
been the most consistent of the four teams that are left?

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yes, I would say yes.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yes, I mean Kansas City really just lost one game
forget about the last game of the year. That doesn't
count as.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
It no, because they played Carson Wentz.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Right, So Kansas City has been very consistent. I shouldn't
say Buffalo has been the most consistent. I should take
that back.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You think so you would take Casey over Buffalo, Yeah,
I would. But even with the record, you could argue
Casey being in some of those one score games has
shown an incredible amount of consistency and finding ways to win,
but inconsistency in being entire games than they should be.
That makes sense, No.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You completely lost me. I'm like, what the hell was
he saying?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Consistency and finding ways to win it? Right?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
But they've been incredibly inconsistent because they're in games they
with teams that shouldn't be in games with true.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
You mean, like played until the level of your competition.
By the way, had they not lost to the Bills,
they would have had to play their starters the last weekend.
Would they not have.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Had they not lost to the Bills, yep.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
But then they would have had a perfect record, And
no way they give the perfect record up, would they?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I don't know, there are no way, zero way.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I don't get id bbs going yeah, that doesn't mean
anything to me. We'll just go ahead and sit this
game out.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Absolutely never in the middle.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I would lose all respect for it. Did something if.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
They did that and then he got hurt or if
Kelsey got hurt. Ye in the first round of the.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Play like a month off, my good please? If I
had a chance to.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Say Barkley had a chance to set the single season
rushing record in the regular season, he sat a game out.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Big difference between that at a team record like going undefeated.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I just I don't think I can sit here and
be like, oh, yeah, they all would have played, They're.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
All would have a different bird man. Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
And then finally, LJ. Last year, Zay Flowers this year,
Mark Andrews. Let's face reality, guys, the Ravens are not
mentally tough. And that starts from the top with cry
baby Harball and resonates throughout the team.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Is that I think that's a little unfair LJ.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
But the blame though, who takes the blame?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I mean, Zay Flowers is going into the end zone
and that ball pops out. I mean we had to
watch eighty six replays on the goal line to see
whether or not the ball came out before he went
in on that.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
By the way, did today's game and I know it's
a regular season a war, but today's game decide really
who the MVP is? Or omitted harder?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Have they already voted?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah, it's a regular season thing?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Oh is it?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
But then it shouldn't matter, right, Well, I'm.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Just wondering too.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
After today, I would have given to take one Barkley
the MVP. After today Barkley got my vote.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Maybe yeah, right, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Think it's gonna be Allen though, don't you? I do.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I do think it's gonna be Alan though. I believe
that Lamar had played out and and that's at least
a least I think so.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Well he did he did today?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Just turn the ball that Baltimore turned the ball over
too much and then Bills took advantage of it. All Right,
We'll talk with Todd Furman next and see about college
football's big game coming up on Monday night.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Plus he's surprised by.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
The numbers that came out for the AFC and NFC
championship games. A Tarni and plank on a Sunday into
a Monday night here on Fox Sports Radio. I had
a Tarnian plank on a Fox Sports Sunday the champampionship
games in the AFC and NFC, or set here to
talk about our buddy, Todd Furman Bet the Board podcast
at Todd Furman on X Good Day, Bad Day, Todd,

(57:09):
how did things play out in the divisional rounds over
the weekend for the books, books that.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Were able to eliminate a lot of the Future's liability
they had going to the Detroit Lions, so that was
a win for them. Getting the Commanders to not only
cover as a seven and a half eight point underdog,
but to win that game out right helped immenseally. The
two results today a little bit of a mixed bag.
You did see some professional money coming on Baltimore that
took them from a slight underdog on the open to
a slight favorite to close, but both games going over

(57:35):
the total not good for the house, and depending on
where they fell with the Rams Philadelphia six could have
been a bad result for some books and a very
good one for others.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
I would have paid to see what people were yelling
about for the people that the Chiefs minus nine and
a half before the safety on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Yeah, it definitely changes the dynamic, and it's why you
always have to be price sensitive when you're looking to
try and bet these games. You had opportunities to lay
better nine and a half throughout the course of the week.
Even earlier in the day there was still an opportunity
to lay him eight, but There's no doubt that safety
definitely changed some wins to losses and vice versa. There
to get things kicked off for the divisional weekend in

(58:13):
a surprising style, will put it that way.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
So anything really catch your eye in some of the
early lines I've seen. The over under was a little
bit of a question in the Bills Chiefs game. But
what pretty universally Philly minus five and a half in
case minus a point and a half.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Yeah, no man's land for the Eagles and Commanders four
and a half on the low end upwards of five
and a half. And I think the storyline we're going
to want to follow up until kickoff next week is
the health of Jalen Hurts. I don't expect him to
miss the game, but if he looks like the quarterback
he was in those final few drives, clearly mobility was compromised,
and I'm not sure if he doesn't have his legs
as a way to be able to extend plays and
force defenses to play them honestly, that it puts them

(58:50):
in a tough spot. Although if the Eagles has said
the right things Quinnion Mitchell did after but it's a
little bit funky for me, when you rule a player
out pretty early in the game of the shoulder injury
and he knows right away after the game is over
that he's going to be available for next week. And
as far as Buffalo Kansas City, looking at one one
and a half for Kansas City total in the game
of forty eight and a half interesting wrinkle of course,

(59:10):
in those games, you know, Buffalo gets the win against
the Ravens despite the Ravens not punting a single time
in the game.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Wow, amazing, Which way is that? Why you going to move?
I'm assuming people gonna be jumping on Kansas City and
he'll be going to two two and a half, but
just short of three.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get to three. I
think you'll have an appetite from betters looking to try
and bet Buffalo if it did get to three. I
think it's the perfect number in that one one and
a half range. You're gonna have a lot of folks saying,
if I can get the Chiefs at this shorter price
in a game of this magnitude, it's hard to argue
with pedigree and the level of success they've had in
the past, and some folks may want to clamor for
the Buffalo Bills finally being able to get over the

(59:45):
hump and exercise the demons and the arch nemesis of
Josh Allens that has been Patrick Mahomes on the other sideline.
But these games, you know, familiar matchups. We typically see
Washington Philadelphia play twice a year as Division fos and
Buffalo Kansas City. Feels like every single season over the
last five years, we've got a yearly installation and this
becomes a second meeting as Kansas City tries to exact

(01:00:07):
a measure of revenge in a game that means a
little bit more than what we saw up in Western
New York during the regular season.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
All Right, Tod, let's talk about Detroit here real quick,
because a team with so much promise, so many injuries,
how do you kind of view where they are now?
You get upset, You're out Washington as a load to momentum.
That division is going to get tough for probably going
to lose both of their coordinators. It's going to be
an interesting offseason in Detroit, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
I think, Look, it's a team. We talk about windows
all the time in professional sports, and some close a
lot faster than others. But for the Lions, you know,
this was a glorious opportunity. They had to go out
there and win that elusive Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately for them,
it's extremely difficult when basically half of your too deep
on the defensive side of the ball can't be out
there contribute to key junctures of when you need them

(01:00:53):
for the most high leverage situations that are there. The
offense turned the ball over more than they could afford.
But it's rare in the NFL that you scored three
thirty one points in a playoff game and you still
find a way to lose by two touchdowns. But that
seemed to be the common storyline and that you had
to follow in all of these divisional round games that
if you shot yourself in the foot turn the ball over,
it was impossible to kind of overcome those elements, whereas

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the teams that went on to win just avoided those
costing mistakes. Because I don't think anybody thought Kansas City
was extremely good in their victory against the Houston Texans,
or that the Bills were overly sharp in their performance
against Baltimore, or even Philadelphia, who had to try and
limp to the finish, both figuratively and literally, after they
allowed the Rams to sneak back in the game after
Saquon Barkley put them up two scores.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Dodd some great odds, I think, some great value in
the Super Bowl odds. Philadelphia the favorite under two to one,
but you can get the Chiefs almost a two and
a half to one, same thing with the Bills maybe
over two and a half to one, and the Commanders
are like seven to one.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
Yeah, all money line rollovers at this point. So if
you believe that the Commanders do have more than a
punch or shot to upset the then both of those
AFC teams are going to offer tremendous amounts of upside
because you'll be able to get them as substantial favorites
in a standalone championship game. But if Philadelphia gets through,
you'd be looking at a number real close to pick
him against both Buffalo and Kansas City. So not exactly

(01:02:15):
stealing this time of year, unless you feel that Washington
pull off an upset and then maybe you're able to
exact a level of value from a Buffalo or Kansas
City at that price tag. In North twod to one
that you alluded.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
To nis Addle's talk about tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
What's the gut telling you, I say tonight on the
East coast, not quite there in the Central and Pacific
time zone yet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
But I may be surprised to line it move more
than it did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Only a point this week, still pretty big when we
went eight, eight and a half right now for Ohio State,
what's kind of your feel and how this has gone
throughout the week?

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
You know, these championship games haven't been competitive. They're going
all the way back to when we expanded the footprint
a little bit. You've seen an average margin of victory
north of two touchdowns, but that doesn't say that the
favorite wins the game by two touchdowns or the underdog.
I do think this game will be a little bit closer,
especially when you consider that the total of one of
the lower numbers that we've seen, especially in modern college football.
But you can understand why when you have two of

(01:03:08):
the best defenses from a points per game allowed standpoint.
But for me, Notre Dame, in my opinion, gets the
slight edge at the coordinator spot. I think that's hard
to ignore this time of year for a group that
just hasn't beaten themselves. I mean, Notre Dame has done
the little things. They've shown a ton of grit and tenacity,
and while they don't match up player for player with
the Buckeyes in terms of overall skill, they've done the
little things asked of them and then some. Plus we

(01:03:30):
do have a level of familiarity. I mean, this will
be the third time in as many years since Marcus
Freeman took over in South Bend that these teams have
played one another. And while the rosters are a little
bit different, Notre Dame has done a tremendous job. Being
able to hang around early and force Ohio States creates
some separations. So even in Marcus Freeman's first game at
Notre Dame, we saw them take a lead into the

(01:03:50):
half against Ohio State last year and the Buckeyes were
a little bit banged up with Kyle mccorda quarterback. It
was a three to nothing game. So I wouldn't see
any scenario other than, you know, Notre Dame doing everything
they could to throw a wrench into the best laid
plans for the Scarlett and Gray, and I leaned so
slightly towards Notre Dame haven't bet the game sider total though,
but should be a fun one to watch, no doubt
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
I'll think I'm leading towards the over. I don't want
to officially give up by picks because a lot of
pressure on me. I'm keeping the economy alive here in Vermont.
So many people are making money off my picks right now.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Todd, Well, yeah, I think people are making money fading
your picks, but a further proof that they are only
a handful of things in Vermont that can be trusted
from an economic stimulus standpoint. The revenue that Ben and
Jerry's generates, what we see from Vermont Teddy Bear, and
the amount of pints to get polished off at one
of my favorite restaurants when I live there, the wind
Jammer right there in Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Artie's probably never been all right, Todd, enjoyed the Enjoy
the game tonight, buddy, and thanks for all your time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It should be a fun countdown of the championship games.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Always a pleasure, guys. Enjoy the game tomorrow night, and
now this time next week we'll have a lot of
fun talking about the Super Bowl matchup and all the
x's and notes that can be exploited down in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Are two weeks to prep, can't any buddy? That's Todd Firman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Go follow him on Twitter at Todd Furman and check
him out on the bet to board podcast available however
you consume podcasts. All right here you Steve Seger comes
rolling into the Tirack dot com studios.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
What's going on, Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Divisional playoff round over? Our four winners have set the
AFC NFC Championship game matchups for next weekend. Amazingly, it
turns out that all four teams that won this weekend
were out gained.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Yes, I just set that the plague? How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
And Ap says that it only happened once before, that
was twenty fifteen season, and he mentioned that it's a
Division Foes matchup for the NFC title on Fox TV
next Sunday, three pm Eastern Washington at Philadelphia. They split
their two regular season meetings and no, no snow in
the forecast for Philly next weekend. But here, the NFC
North had been the division and it's the NFC East

(01:05:45):
that's standing at the end in that conference. The NFC
North had those three elite teams this year Lions and
Vikings and Packers. Oh my Pro Football Talk tonight put
it this way that in the regular season those Big
Three when they played outside the division, had a record
of twenty nine and four, and yet get to the
postseason this month they were all out immediately zho to

(01:06:07):
three against non NFC North teams. Well, you also mentioned
earlier in the show here as the Rams lost in
the snow at Philadelphia twenty eight, twenty two. That kind
of came close to pulling it out at the end
because to remember, one of the long TD runs came
from Saquon Barkley, a one play scoring drive with under
five minutes to go, seventy eight yards and he's gone,

(01:06:28):
and that put the Eagles up twenty eight to fifteen.
So Associated Press did some research. What's the win loss
record of a team since two thousand when you start
a drive in the last fifteen minute, last five minutes
a year down thirteen points or more, as the Rams were.
The answer is nine wins and about twenty seven hundred losses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Wow, I did season in pow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I think Miami lost to Tennessee a couple of years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
On that way, almost never gets pulled off, and yet
the Rams down twenty eight to fifteen, had a ten
play touchdown drive, got a three and out on defense,
took over, had another ten play drive under two minutes,
got into the red zone of Philadelphia, was still over
a minute left, and then that sack up the middle
by Jalen Carter, who had a great game. Stafford had

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no chance on that. Here was a third and two,
then became fourth and eleven and he threw incomplete and
that's it for the Rams season. They ended eleven and eight,
five and four in the road games, Rams defense had
seven secs, Eagles had five. Matthew Stafford two touchdown passes,
three hundred twenty four yards passing and one fumble. Saquon
Barkley did it to the Rams again, twenty six carries,

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two hundred five yards, two touchdowns, not only the seventy
eight yard TD but an earlier sixty two yarder, and
he blasted the Rams in LA in the last couple
of months, including a couple of long TV runs. So
Saquon Barkley becomes the first player in NFL history to
against a single opponent, have four different rushing touchdowns that

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are at least from sixty yard yards out in his career.
No one else had done that for a career. He
did that in two games this season against the same opponent,
thank you very much. And then tonight in the cold
at Buffalo, the Bills eliminated Baltimore twenty seven to twenty five.
Josh Allen two short touchdown runs in the second quarter.

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The Ravens missed two two point passes in the second half.
Among the seven NBA games, Miami beat San Antonio easily.
Today Heat outscored him by nineteen in the third quarter.
Denver won at Orlando. Another triple double from Nikola Jokic
for the Magic, Paulo Bank Carol four of seventeen, shooting
ten points. Oklahoma City is thirty five and seven after

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ripping Brooklyn. Shake Iljess Alexander was questionable with a sprained wrist.
He'd missed the Friday game. He played today had twenty
seven points and ten assists. Milwaukee sent Philadelphia to a
sixth straight loss. Sacramento sent Washington to a tenth straight loss.
Victories for Portland and the Clippers, who beat the Lakers
one sixteen, one oh two, And guys, the Commissioner the

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ACC has spoken today saying his league will have some
conversations about whether they should make changes to their conference
championship game format, because remember SMU was their regular season
champ but then lost the ACC title game and had
to sweat it out to see if they were even
gonna get a spot in the twelve team playoff field.

(01:09:20):
One of the considerations that they'll talk about with ACC
coaches and athletic directors will two. Actually, one is what
if we just give our regular season champ a buy
and we have second place play third place in our
so called championship game nine interesting. The other is what
if we just leave an opening at the end of
our regular season schedule and then automatically have one play

(01:09:44):
four two against three, and then those two winners go
to the ACC championship game. So things to discuss in
that conference.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Back to you. Yeah, they're trying to see if they
get that second bid. Yeah, well out here to sweat it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Here's the thing though, Steve, and I think this is
fascinating Arnie. Sorry Arnie two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
But if we do end up expanding this to sixteen,
which I think is inevitable, and we get rid of
first round.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
By not necessarily soon though right right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Right, over the next few years, you're probably gonna get
two automatic bids in from the ACC and the Big twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Anyway, I think it's gonna end up being.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Four four for wouldn't be automatic, they would just get
two bids though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
It'd be automatic. You get four from the A, four
from the Big Big ten, four from the SEC, then
two from the Big twelve, and two from the ACC.
I think that those would be set bids that they
would get. And then you wonder, Okay, at that point,
do you just scratch your conference championship game altogether or
do you maybe have two buys one head two don't

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have to worry about playing in the championship game, So
maybe you could get a third team in with what
might be a couple of at large and then what
a group of five champion two.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I would remember when the PAC twelve, PAC ten and
people were starting to begin with these championship games and
create them. The PAC twelve, remember, didn't have one for
the longest time, and the reason was the commission at
the time said, we don't want to expose our great
team to a loss at the end and then and
then have them out, so you know, smu is saying,

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should we really be least championship game and play at foot?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
What if we lose and then we're not in the
top twelve. Yeah, and it's gonna be a fascinating time.
All right? Who you got tonight, Arnie? Which I know
you got your picks coming up later in the program,
but have you wavered it all in your belief about
what could happen tonight in the championship game?

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
No, I'm pretty sad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I'm gonna pick a blow out by Ohio State. I
think it's gonna be like a seventeen point victory or
maybe three touchdown victory. I don't think Notre Dame's gonna
be able to keep up with him, and especially if
ohiose thee gets out early and Notre Dame has to
play ketchup. I kind of like the overallso I think
forty five and a half is generous. So I think
that that's gonna look good too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I think it's wild that Notre Dame won a game
where everything went against them Penn State game they got
beating the rushing totals and total yardage and just Riley
Leonard and Notre Dame couldn't run the football, and they
still beat Penn State. And then they probably played one
of their best games of the year and beating Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Yep, and the quarterback didn't even throw for one hundred yards.
And now you're starting to get this little team of
destiny buzz that's building around Notre Dame. Are you buying
any of that? No?

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Please?

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
It's not even gonna win tomorrow the Notre Dame. That's
one thing too. You know, it's amazing tonight by the way,
tonight whatever. Yeah, you know you always like cutting it
close on the time thing out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Yeah, it's midnight, it's twelve forty, it's Monday on the
Eastern time zone.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Is there coach gonna be around? How much longer? That's
what I want to know. Is he gonna end up
taking another job before it's all said and done?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
What would you do if you're a Marcus Freeman, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Gone, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
You'd leave Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Yeah, I would leave Notre Dame. I would go ahead
and take the if I can get what the bear's
job or something like that, would take it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It's Notre Dame man and you just led them in
your third Sea fourth season to a national third season
excuse me, to the National Championship game, and you're in
a great spot to make the playoffs every single year
even if it does Expand.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
You don't think the NFL is gonna pay him a
lot of money? Is that good?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
I think Notre Dame's gonna pay him a lot of money.
But you're telling me you would take the Bears over
Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I yeah, I would take the Bear situation. I don't
think I would want to go be long term at
Notre Dame. But you could ask coach Kelly if he
wants to be long term in Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Well, Coach Kelly has taking a lot of l's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
He was the same guy that couldn't win a championship
with Jane Daniels and then leaves Notre Dame while they're
in the title game right now. So I don't know
if that's an opinion maker who I want to hang
my hat on, Arni.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
But that's just me. What do I know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
All right, there, we go, Steve de Sager.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
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Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
What's going on, Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
One thing I noticed with the NFC Championship game in
Philly next Sunday, this will be five straight Sundays with
a home game for the Philadelphia Eagles. Geezow Sundays in
a row. They finished the regular season hosting and beating
Dallas and the Giants. Then last Sunday was home beating
Green Bay. Today a Sunday home beating the Rams. Next

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Sunday home to Washington in the NFC title game on
Fox TV next Sunday, three pm Eastern times.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
You're more hateable than Kansas City, I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Yeah, it depends because some people just hate Philly because
the fans, which goes to any sport. Yes, people tend
to hate teams that they always see in the finals.
Or you know, people not liking Lebron because he was
always in the you know that kind of thing gets Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Certainly.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
We'll get to that in a moment you mentioned earlier
in the show about the Chiefs tend to play close games,
whether they should be close or not, but they tend
to win all of them. In fact, yesterday's victory this
season meant win number twelve by single digits. That's an
NFL record most such close wins in a single season
by any team, regular season plus playoffs. So here last

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night you had the one seed in the NFC, Detroit
which had had a dominant offense over thirty points a game,
and they're out, But the one seed in the AFC,
the Chiefs are still in, going to another conference championship.
And did the Chiefs average over thirty points a game? No,
In fact, they did not score over thirty points in
any single game this season, and yet they had the

(01:15:33):
best record at sixteen and two. Lebron James, by the way,
was in a conference final eight straight years, four with
Miami and then four with Cleveland. Tom Brady eight straight
years in the AFC championship. This will be seven straight
years for Patrick Macomes in the AFC title game. Ken
Stabler on John Madden's Raiders in the mid seventies went

(01:15:54):
five straight years to the AFC Championship. The Raiders were
one and four in those games, and Andy Reid's Eagles
four straight years in the NFC title game, and he
went one and three in those about twenty years ago.
By the way, if Mahomes wins next Sunday, his record
will be five and two. In the AFC title game,
Tom Brady was five and three in his.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Eighth straight game. Passed him. It's over.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Lamar Jackson though, is out. My goodness, he did have
that fumble touchdown. Baltimore was two and five in the
playoffs during his years going into this year, and in
the five losses they always scored seventeen points or less.
Granted one of those he wasn't available, so it was
a Tyler Huntley game. But it's a losing record. And

(01:16:41):
this is now eight starts in the playoffs. In four
of the eight he's had at least two turnovers each time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Inclind he was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Complaining about that, just hold on to the damn ball.
But exactly what was he talking about Andrews or he
talking about himself.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
He's talking about himself. Complete frustrating. This is not the
first time, so two touchdown pass but two turnovers as well.
He was blitzed by Buffalo in this game. In fact,
the Bills defense Blitz Lamar Jackson on almost fifty percent
of the times he dropped back to pass, which is
their highest rates of the last few years his numbers.

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He threw his interception against the Blitz when he had
no Blitz against him. Lamar Jackson was ten of eleven
passing and a couple of touchdowns for the other quarterback
Josh Allen advances because he was getting the ball out
quickly in this game tonight, he averaged his quickest time
to throw of this whole season. It was under two
and a half seconds on average, getting the ball out,
one of the quickest times of his career. So Buffalo

(01:17:40):
eliminates Baltimore. Wide receiver Zay Flowers was out again for
the Ravens with his knee injury mispracticed all week. Quarterback
Lamar Jackson, remember, was voted All Pro ahead of Josh Allen.
As you mentioned, it was thirty votes to eighteen. Here
in late September, Baltimore had beaten up the Bills thirty
five to ten, but the Bills had him at home

(01:18:00):
and won again, and the Bills finished ten and zher
at home and go to Kansas City for the AFC Championship.
Next Sunday. Lamar Jackson had another phenomenal regular season, In fact,
he was the first guy with at least forty TD
passes but fewer than five interceptions in the same season
in league history. But two turnovers in this playoff game

(01:18:21):
and they are out. The Eagles eliminated the Rams twenty
eight to twenty two. The Rams fumbled on back to
back possessions in the fourth quarter. Philadelphia turned them both
into field goals and won by six. We mentioned the Ravens,
and it should be mentioned missed two two point tries
in the second half and lost by two. There was

(01:18:41):
that key Buffalo field goal early fourth quarter. Tyler Bass
in a cold game under twenty degrees there tonight kicked
a fifty one yard field goal and they won by two.
So that's notable to bring up. As for Kansas City, yesterday,
weather was a problem. Remember the Texans trying to kick
into the win, that missed field goal attempt, the missed
extra point try, then another field goal attempt block. But

(01:19:04):
apparently it's not going to be that windy in cac
next weekend, same as after the snow in Philly today,
It's not due to snow in Philly. Next weekend. We
do have Monday nights college football National Championship game in Atlanta,
Ohio States and Notre Dame. Ohio State was ten and
one this season until the home loss to Michigan. Since
then they beat up Tennessee and number one Oregon easily

(01:19:26):
and then eliminated Texas. By the way, the buck Guys
will open next season hosting Texas and then today at Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
The next year.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
The Irish due to open next season at Miami. Notre
Dame's home schedule next season will include Texas A and
m Boise State, USC.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
And Navy Carson Beck versus Notre Dame. How about that
hat and think about that? Yeah, don't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
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Power Hour Stinking Genius. Are you're ready?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Let's go?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
You're well rested, by the way, do you feel little
what's the word I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
I don't want to say misplaced? But college football on
January twentieth. Don't you feel a little lost there? That
that's really dragging it out in the month of January?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
You bet? Yeah. I think it's also I don't know
what to make of why the TV ratings haven't been better.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
I was gonna say, I don't think it's going to
be good ratings for the finals because people are.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
More I think it will be, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
No, I don't. I think it was pitched.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
At too most iconic brands you could think.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Of, right, It has nothing to do with that. I'm
just thinking more of because of the date and we're
way past you know, we're deep in the January.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
People don't Okay, can you explain that to me?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
So, because you're not used to seeing a college football
game this late, you're not going to watch it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Well, why do you think the other ones have been
pretty down?

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It makes no sense to me at all, especially whenever
you had two good games in the semi finals. I
think part of it is here, here's one thing that's
going to be a forever complaint on my end, and
this goes the same for college basketball. Why, Arnie, do
we condition ourselves to always have the biggest games on Saturday,
even for college basketball?

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
College basketball will have fun midweek games or out a Wednesday,
Thursday and every now elevent But where are your most
important games in college football?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
College basketball Saturday?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Why do we not play our semi finals and national
championships on a Saturday?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Because when CFL had it all cares.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Yeah, I mean I feel like you've got it, You've
conditioned it, and you got to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Well you need to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
At New Well noon Eastern, which is three and a
half or three hours before the NFL does theirs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I mean, that's that's always been my big complaint, especially
with college football. There is not a single college football
game throughout the year outside of the opening weekend in
one game on a Monday night, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
But you have the whole audience on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Well, you just told me you think the ratings are
gonna suck.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
I have only because I don't think people are used
to having college football go on this long. Has nothing
to do with the you know so much about the
day of the week. It's just out as January twentieth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
But I gotta tell you, man, I don't who are
those people like that where you're like, whoa, look at
that college football was still long. I'm not even kidding.
Do you know people like that?

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
I too, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I mean, anyone's like, oh, my god's still going on. No,
Everyone's like, oh, the championship game is tonight. So that's
a world that I guess I need to familiarize myself
with because I am not familiar with their game, arenie.
And it is frustrating because Ohio State and Texas was
a great football game. Penn State Notre Dame was a
great football game to see that neither had what neither

(01:22:59):
had twenty minus billion. Don't get me wrong, they were
still the most watched things on TV that night, and
I think some of the highest rated football college football
games of the season. And they're not sniffing NFL numbers.
But that's fine, this idea that, oh, well, it's a
time of the year where people don't traditionally watch football. Okay,
by three weeks, you know, it's not like we're playing
in March and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
The Sega's usually the numbers, guy, But is this championship
game we gonna get higher numbers than a regular NFL
Monday night game. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I don't think I would hope so when you hope so,
at least I the game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I would hope it does. But I don't think it's
going to Chris. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
I think it's going to blow Monday night football games
out of the water.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
The regular season one, jee, I don't think so, though.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
You don't think so. What's a normal Monday night football
rating than Arnie?

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
What is it like in the tens? Is that what
it is? Ten something?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Well? I mean as far as viewers.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Oh, I don't know. The overall viewers. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Normal Monday night foot ball ratings are fifteen million viewers a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Game fifteen million viewers, so it should do more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Yes, I mean this is This is according to Sports
Video Group. The numbers up from twenty twenty two and
twenty twenty three. But I just I would think that
I would think that the NFL, or excuse me, the
college football Championship game should beat it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
And I guess the numbers if you took the average.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
From fifteen to twenty three, twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three,
you're averaging seventeen point four million on Monday night football,
which is mass. We're not sitting here trying to debate that.
I'm just saying I hope the College Football National Championship
game between two iconic brands. I mean outside of Ohio Satan,
Notre Dame, who else would you want in there?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
TV ratings?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
And also the optimal kickoff time? What is it? It's
seven thirty, which means more like seven forty five or
like that too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Hey, were we ever going to kick off that game
today between the Bills and the Bravens.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Dude, what was going on with the pregame of that?
Did you notice that? No?

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
I didn't know. I didn't notice that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
I don't think I've ever seen anything like what either
CBS or the NFL decided to do there. I felt
like it was at least a thirty minute delay from
when they were going to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Kick it off.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Oh jeez, we now have we got to go to
eight different desks to get eight different predictions. And I mean, anyway,
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want to say after the divisional series and championships, excuse me,
the divisional round this is what we know?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Or do you just want to go straight to the tweets?

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
No, well, just a couple of them, because I'm right
off the bat and the Saeger stole my thunder. But
what I know is you could have the more You
can have more yardage than your opponent and still not
win the game. It happened four times this weekend, and
I am shocked that something like that can go on.
I never would have thought that you would out of
gaining an opponent in four games and all four teams

(01:26:14):
would lose. But that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Turnovers, baby, yeah, turnovers the killer and the officials, right,
they helped the Chiefs out quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
So you got those two things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
I know this that no one wants to talk about them,
and everyone wants to act like they're easy to overcome.
But there does reach a point where injuries are going
to absolutely destroy you, and that's what happened to the Lions.
I am not coming to you, Artie. I do not
come to you today. Is anyone hating on the Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Never.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I give them all the credit in the world, the
fact that they lost that much on defense and we're
in the position that they were in. And then even
in the game against Washington, you know me Robertson meh
whenever he was with the Raiders, but has had an
incredible breakout with the Lions. He gets hurt on what
like early in the game, so they kept losing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
I'm bullish on the future of the Lions, but I
am very curious to see what they do with Jared Goff.
They're committed to him. He's going to be their quarterback.
It's clear that his mistakes cost him that game against Washington.
If Ben Johnson moves on, could Ben Johnson try to
take Kendon Hooker they're back up with him. I don't know,

(01:27:24):
but I just I'm intrigued by the future of Jared
Goff because it appears like it's going to be in
Detroit for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
But I don't know if that's necessarily the best thing,
especially if Ben Johnson isn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
My prediction is the Washington will get the most bets
placed on the win the Super Bowl next year, so
you could go ahead and take that to the bank,
and Daniels will get the most votes or the most
money put on him to win the MVP, So that
will be where all the money will be going on
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
So you're already making Jane Daniels the MVP favorite next year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
I didn't say the favorite. I just say that people
are gonna go the that's where all the money will
go to, especially if you're gonna get any decent odds
with somebody like Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I know you can play this down all you want,
and I understand why you would because you're kind of
a fake Giants fan. But after the divisional round of
the playoffs, I know this, I'm seething. If I'm a
Giants fan, seathing. I know it was probably the smart
move to move on from Saquon. I can't argue it right,
but to see what he's doing with one of your

(01:28:26):
rivals in your own division, I mean, come on, psych
watching your ex y or your ex girl.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
N You like the relationship compared Yes, yes, your ax
just upgraded. She's moved on, and she is thriving. And
that dude that she's with is rich and he's he's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Loaded and he's hot, and there's nothing you can do
about it because you're sitting around eating your bond bonds
watching this team just thrive right now. And I'm telling you,
I think Philly's gonna win next weekend. You're gonna watch
Saquon play in a super Bowl. So I understand that
there is still all he would never have done that for.
You know, he had all those opera what was your
excuse your gun up with earlier?

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
He's had those chances.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
You're telling me that every Giants fan is, oh, yeah,
that's fine, good, good for him. Hell no, man, come on,
I would be irate and you should be too. I
was irate with Josh Jacobs just making the playoffs and
putting himself in a position to win a game when
he was in a Packers uniform. So I can't even
fathom what would have been like if he was doing
it for a team in my division in the AFC West,

(01:29:30):
but not a Giants fan.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I guess it's all okay, and you're cool with it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
All right? When I ordered out to the divisional games,
and I knew this even before these games went off
this weekend, but now it's pretty much confirmed. I want
to say this as nicely as I can, Chris, but
go ahead. I'll just say it that in my arny way,
you Raven fans, you're rooting for a loser. Your team
is a loser. Okay, you can't win in the playoffs.

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How did you have to be the most disappointing fan
base of all the fans right now, even more of
the Detroit Lions. You every year think that it's going
to be your year. You talk about how Lamar Jackson
should win the MVP every year, and then this is
gonna be your year to win the super Bowl, and
then you just fall like that in the playoffs. You

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just root for a bunch of losers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
I can't put it any you know, any softer than that, Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
They made the playoffs six in the last seven years.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
How many super Bowls that turned into?

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Well, they won the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, So
I mean, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Not talking ten years old. I think then, No, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Twelve years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
So the Ravens, who under John Harbaugh have won a
super Bowl. Consistent playoff contenders are losers.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
You see what Jackson's doing in the playoffs, don't you?

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Again, you're gonna label them losers?

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Yes, that's quite a stretch, Arnie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I mean, if you want to label the Raiders losers,
I gotta wear it. You want to label the Browns losers,
I think Browns fans have to wear it. Dolphins, the Dolphins,
you gotta wear it. The Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Maybe I should have said Lamar Jackson in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Well maybe, but even in that instance, he's there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
They lost in the EFC Championship game, which wasn't his fault, Flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Somebody, it wasn't his fault. That we're gonna say that after?
Is that like the you know, the disclaimer, but it
wasn't his fault, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I'm not saying that's not the case this year. I'm
just saying it was last year. You you just called
an entire franchise. It's done nothing but win a bunch
of losers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I don't know how much winning they're doing lately.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
They went twelve and five this year. They want a
playoff game, then lost on the road whenever they.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Would have seen that coming losing a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
I'm just saying you're coming at it from a position
that's just I don't know you need.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Oh, I bet you the listeners agree with me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
I bet they don't lost in the playoffs. I don't
think you. I don't think why you wouldn't trade places
with the Ravens right now and their fan base, with
where they've been under John.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Harmy, Dolphin Finn, I'd trade places with a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Of teams right now, right so, and then you would
sit there and you wouldn't have any kind of feeling
if someone said, yeah, you're a bunch of losers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I mean, dude, you're making a stand up to the
Ravens here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
You literally know you sad your fan. So Lamar Jackson
is a loser, the two time league MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Well, he's been a loser in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
That's something that's something you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Peyton Manning hadn't won a championship yet either, Yeah, and
you were calling him a loser. Was he a loser
before he won a title? Is Charles Barkley a loser
because he never wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
A loser before he won his championship?

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
They do think so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
So the only way that you're a winter Dan Marino
a loser, I don't think so. He's had an incredible career.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
The answer is yes, So you're.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
A loser if you don't win a title.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Is Charles Barkley considered a loser in my mind?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Not in my mind?

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Okay, so if you don't win, so Duran and all
those guys are winners, Robert or he is a winner.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Are you gonna start making this about every other sport?
I mean, dude, what are you even doing right now?
I know what you're trying to troll the Ravens right now,
but I think you need to step back a little
bit and realize, Yeah, they haven't gotten done in the playoffs,
but under Harball, they won a championship, you got the
two time league MVP twe You're constantly here. You're good
to go. You're rolling, man.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
I think I think they're the most frustrated fan base
after all of the fan bases this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I don't care they lost in the divisional round. They
got no leg to stand on to talk about being frustrated.
Do not make the playoffs for about a decade. Go
watch your arch rivals when you're to get the f
out of here with Oh, they're so frustrated. No, they're
living a charmed life. They're constantly going to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Your quarterback is set for a long time and you're
good there. You're tight end who was a Pro Bowl
and you're all time leading receiver. Had a bad game,
picked the wrong time, had a bad game. It happens
to everyone. Save Flowers fumbles going into the end zone
last year. I mean, I think it's just a matter
of time before they run it through. Now can you
say that about the Dolphins?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Well, what about Henry? Also?

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
What is he?

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Thirty two years old? Is at home?

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
It's his first year with him, Maybe he break he
had a breakthrough season.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
With you know what they say about running backs at
hit thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Well he's thirty two now, so he's gonna know that.
Don't make me stand up for the freaking Ravens, of
all things.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
But I don't think the Ravens should be the most
frustrated fan base after this weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
I think it should be the Lions. Don't you You
were at least at home, and yeah, all I heard
about is how crazy that environment was going in there?

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I mean, Jane Daniels shut you up pretty quick. I mean,
that's kind of what I took away from this weekend. Yeah,
I'll tip my cap, I'll give you all your flowers
for fighting through, but you still lost as a one
seat at home against a team that was but close
to a ten point underdog.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
But if we if we thought there was gonna be
an upset from the weekend, that was a lot of
what a lot of people were picking.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
I heard nobody picking the Commanders over the Lions. Who
picked the Commanders over the line?

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
I think a lot of people were jumping on that
bandwagon as of lately.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
I who, well, I just just mean maybe to take
him to cover the spread. I don't think anyone's like
they're gonna go beat the Lions. I think it's easy
to say that afterwards, but come on, man, were you
picking the Commanders to go beat the Lions?

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
I just took them with the spread though.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Yeah, I mean if you want to say they were
taking eight and a half, that's fine, But I mean
suddenly when they win the game, I feel like it's
it's very excusey when you're like, well, a lot of
people thought they were gonna win. No, they didn't outside
of a handful of Commander fans.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
The Commands and what.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
They thought about the game.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Yeah, all right, So you hit us up on Twitter
at Steaking Genius one. I'm at playing show. Maybe you
agree with Arnie. Maybe the Ravens are a bunch of losers.
I would trade places with you in a heartbeat. You
heartbroken purple clad fans today who went on the road
and lost in heartbreaking fashion because you can't hold onto
the football. It happens. But you're gonna be back next year.
Do you think the Ravens are suddenly gonna fall off

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the planet next year and be terrible?

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
No, but the thirty two year old running back gonna
be thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
This is only here that he's been with them.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
That is a warning flag, Chris, that's a warning flag.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
So before him, they were even better. They went to
the championship game last year without him.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
And also you got to think that maybe Cincinnati will
get off to a little bit of a better start.
There'll be a team to worry about it. So it's
a three team rays Cleveland, we'll always think, so we'll
forget about that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Well maybe not. Maybe they get themselves a quarterback. All right,
when we come back, we'll hit your your tweets. We'll
hit some audio from the post game today, including a
very frustrated Lamar Jackson, who apparently sucks. We'll talk about it,
coming up with Arnie Plank on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
it's Arny in Plank here on a Fox Sports Sunday

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into a Monday. Oh, we only got a couple of
segments left. Arnie's picks coming up in a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
You already late in the economy of of course.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Well Vermont allegedly, do you really the fact?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Okay, I hit the tweets excess to the show at
Steaking Genius. Want them at Plank show. Everybody go follow
us at Fox Sports Radio. These were just two that
came in during the last break that caught my eye
at Stephan Rights Derrick Henry and all Stephan you got
to up your game, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Only two followers. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Dereck Henry and Lamar Jackson aren't going to play this
well forever. With their running style, which I feel like
we say every year with Lamar Jackson, running backs and
running qbs have a short shelf life. This was supposed
to be their year. Well, I mean it was supposed
to be the forty nine ers year too. I mean,
every year it's supposed to be someone here and it
doesn't work out. But if you want to try to
hang it on, they've got a window that's closing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
I can't argue with that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
No, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
But I'm also not going to sit here and call
them a bunch of losers because they didn't make it
to the championship game. Josh writes, I don't agree that
they're losers, but I agree with the Already the fans
can be frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
I lived with Manning and the Colts. Get your hopes up,
to have them dashed. I would rather miss the playoffs
and being let down every year.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Oh, Josh, that's incorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
I would much rather I when the Raiders made the
playoffs in twenty twenty, just the feeling of leaning up
to the game, in the excitement and the hype.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
It's the best feeling in the world. Get out of
here with that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Nobody in the history of sports would rather have their
team miss the playoffs than not have that excitement and
that injury and even you know, having your hopes dashed
or having them play out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
You know that? What what?

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
What's the old ABC thing? The thrill of victory, the
agony of defeat?

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Come on, yep, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
But though you have said many times before you would
much rather have your team get blown out than lose
a close game.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Well, I've always said, is it better to have loved
and lost than to never have loved at all? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Profound you see, like Dodger, Frank writes, Bernie Sanders probably
gives more winning wagers for the people of Vermont and Arnie.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
No, Bernie doesn't give more winning picks than I do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
No, that's not sure about that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
I'm closed as being sure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Josh Allen played like Patrick Mahomes today, a double shot
from a Stefan, didn't turn the ball over, move the chains,
and ran the ball. Lamar tries to be the superhero. Yeah,
but it works out so well.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
It's all about It's all about the turnovers. See, Josh
didn't have a great game, at least not statistically, but
the zero turnovers is what wins the game for you
in that situation. And by the way, the Jackson fumbball
was scooped up and resulted in seven, So that was
like a gift out there that that was a big time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Ball rights being a Bills fan for over thirty years,
and the only thing that shocked me on the two
point conversion was that the ball didn't stick in the
face mask of Andrews after he dropped it. And before
we get to Sega's final update of the night, here's one.
We haven't talked about this too much tonight because I
kind of feel like it was the conversation all Saturday
and into Sunday, and in the end, the chief still

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won the game. But Brendan writes, I gotta know how
much dirt did the Kansas City Chiefs have on the
league for them to get the benefit of the doubt
on roughing the passer and other calls. This has got
to stop immediately. Well, the roughing the passer call on
the Will Anderson hit in the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
First that was bad. Ye, the two guys that collided.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
I can see where they might have called that, But
this is where I wish they could look back at it.
I mean, college you can go back and look at
these targeting calls and they'll be like, oh, there's not targeting,
there's no personal foul, So that'll play on I wish
the league would look at that. The thing that frustrated
me most about Mahomes yesterday was the the fake kind

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of slowly down to go out of bounding and flopping
whenever he's on the sidelines. And you've seen him do
it a couple of times, and I mean, he'll end
up getting hurt because someone's gonna knock the you know
what out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Of him and then he'll flag for it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, but I'm just telling you the league's got a
step in on that because it's not just Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
More quarterbacks are doing it. Arnie.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
You see kind of the fake slide. You see the
get over the sideline and kind of wait until someone
gets close.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
He's taking it to new levels though he really has.
It's I mean, it's it's not even just a dancing
along the sideline. He purposely slows up the stay in
bounds hoping he gets it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Oh, by the way, one more quick one here from
Frank who writes Mark Andrews dropped that ball the way
Arnie drops his sports teams after they disappoint him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
That's pretty fair.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
I mean, Jill Dolphin fans still Arizona Wildcat fans still there, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Gat there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
I mean you literally once your coach fired, and you've
been better that you've been over the last few years
in a decade.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
So get him out of here. Get that kids better
off the sidelines, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
One final time Tonight Steve de Sager comes rolling in it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Get has caught up on everything in the world of sports.
What's up, Steve?

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Well, we know the NFC title game will be Washington
at Philadelphia next weekend. There was a note last night
after Washington advance. Ever since Troy Aikman's Cowboys kept making
the conference final up through the mid nineties. Since the
mid nineties, every other team in the NFC has now
made a conference championship.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
But not the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
Oh geez.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
In fact, that's that's your NFC drought, it belongs to Dallas.
In the AFC, the droughts belonged to the Dolphins not
since ninety two, and Cleveland not since eighty nine. Philadelphia
beat the Rams Buffalo over the Ravens to finish up
the NFL's divisional playoffs, and yes, Fox TV will have
next Sunday's NFC Championship three pm Eastern time, Washington at

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Philadelphia they split their two regular season meetings. No snow
in the forecast for next weekend, Unlike today in Philly,
Eagles rookie defensive back Quinyon Mitchell left against the Rams
with a shoulder injury. Washington guard Sam Cosmi suffered a
torn acl last night. Washington has won seven in a
row after the upset of Detroit. You know, as of Thanksgiving,

(01:43:15):
Washington's record was seven and five. They're undefeated since Eagles
beat the Rams twenty eight to twenty two. Saquon Barkley
on twenty six carries, had two hundred five yards rushing
and two scores.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Including a couple more long ones.

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
The Rams are used to that Jalen Hurts with an
early forty four yard TD run he despite the knee injury.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
For I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
I wouldn't say much of the game, but a fair
amount of the game today seven carries seventy yards. The
Eagles were up sixteen fifteen to start the fourth quarter.
Jake Elliott three for three on field goals, but he
missed two extra point attempts. But aj Brown had only
two catches, and they advance. And I will say, yes,
Barkley was the man. But the Eagles offense as a

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whole after that first drive touchdown, only thirteen downs on
the other twelve drives.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Today oh wow.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
In fact, including the sacks, Philadelphia had just sixty five
yards net passing and still advance. The Rams defense had
seven sacks, but the Eagles had five against Matthew Stafford,
who had a fumble, and Rams running back Kyra and Williams,
who had the fumble problem. In the regular season game
against Philly nineteen carries one hundred and six yards, one fumble. Today,
Puka Nicola was targeted fourteen times, six catches ninety seven yards.

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As we mentioned earlier in the show, the Rams on
the final possession drove down inside Philly's twenty, but was
sacked on third down and threw incomplete on fourth down.
Seasonzhos over the Rams end at eleven and eight, Baltimore's
out ending a season at thirteen and six. Buffalo undefeated
at home. They went ten to zero home games this year,
eliminated the Ravens twenty seven to twenty five. The Bills

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had only one penalty, no turnovers. Ravens with three turnovers.
Had mentioned earlier, the Bills turnover margin was easily the
best in the entire higher NFL this year. It was
a plus twenty four and a plus three tonight. Lamar
Jackson two touchdown passes but two turnovers, including that fumble
you mentioned that led to a touchdown in the first half.

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Ravens missed two two point passes in the second half,
and wide receiver Za Flowers was out again with his
knee injury. So Buffalo, the two seed in the AFC,
will be at one seed Kansas City for the AFC
Championship next Sunday. By the way, Buffalo did win its
AFC East for a fifth straight season, did make the
divisional round for a fifth straight year. They had lost

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three of those divisional playoff games in a row. They're
still alive, and the Bills did beat Kansas City in November.
Granted the game was in Buffalo, but the Chiefs had
been nine to zero up to that point to the NBA.
Steph Curry of Golden State questionable for Monday's game with
a sprained ankle. Evan Mobley of Cleveland expected to be
out Monday with a calf injury. Anthony Davis did come

(01:45:54):
back for the Lakers tonight after a foot injury. Had
sixteen points in a loss at the Clippers Portland to
the five game losing streak, beating Chicago, Sacramento over Washington.
The Washington Wizards have not only lost ten in a row,
they have a record of six and thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Geez.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
So we're at the halfway point of the NBA season.
We've been playing close to three months, right they have
six wins. Kyle Kuzma three of fifteen shooting from the floor.
Milwaukee sent Philadelphia to a six straight loss.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Paul George does not play. No joelmb did not play.
Oklahoma City won again victories for Miami and Denver College hoops.
Top twenty Michigan State over Illinois eighty to seventy eight.
Women's hoops. Number two South Carolina beat number thirteen Oklahoma
one on one of them to sixty. South Carolina has

(01:46:43):
won sixty eight straight at home and Number six Yukon
has beaten Seaton Hall in women's hoops forty straight times.
Today's final was ninety six thirty six and the final
notes are from baseball. As the Dodger signed lefty reliever
Tanner Scott reportedly for four years and including deferred money.
This guy when he was in the playoffs with the
Padres faced show. Heyo Tani four times, had struck about

(01:47:07):
four times, was an All Star for the first time
last summer with Miami and then traded. He's a Dodger
now and former manager and catcher Jeff Torborg passed away.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
He was eighty three years old. Was Ale Manager of
the Year with the White Sox nineteen ninety Met's one year.
Caught Sandy Kofax's perfect game as a Dodger, caught a
Bill Singer no hitter, then an Angels Nolan Ryan no hitter,
his first. Jeff Torboard passing away back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Thanks Steve. Yeah, man, you sent that before the show started.
I remember him. I think I had like eight thousand
of his baseball cards. It was just one of those
comments that I would always get. But yeah, r itp man,
that's sad, all right. Hit a couple of tweets, then
we'll get out of here with Arnie's picks and make
way for Big Ben mallor two college football questions here
Minnesota sooner asks, Ohio State or Notre Dame going to

(01:47:55):
cover the ridiculous spread to which Toga wants to know
is the point spread in the game too high. Already
tends to think, no, it couldn't be high enough based
on the vibes I'm getting from you, and you're disdained
for Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame team.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Yeah, I'm laying the eight and a half. Actually, it
opened up at nine and a half, got bet down
to eight and a half. I think it's been down there,
as you mentioned when you talk to Todd for most
of the week. I'm gonna lay the points. I think
Ohio State's offensively just going to be too much for
Notre Dame to keep up with, even though I'm not

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even so much worried about a backdoor cover like what
the Kansas City Chiefs did. But I think it's gonna
be like a fourteen or seventeen point win.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
This was one of the first tweets that came in
today and I'm meant to get to it in the
first hour, But big tim Guru rites a Washington versus
Buffalo Super Bowl rematch would be great for viewers. Now,
I tend to think that the best rated games are
going to involve the Chiefs. Obviously, you get the Taylor's

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with the fact Patrick Mahomes. But maybe getting Washington back
in there first time since the days of the Redskins
to play for a Super Bowl, maybe would that be
a big draw in European I don't, he thinks so.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
I think Kansas City, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Philadelphia would be obviously
the you know, two of the highest rated matchups. After that,
I think Washington would probably be on the lower end
of the spectrum there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
My gosh, I didn't realize how long ago this was.
Do you remember when the Bills and Redskins played each other?
Do you know what year it was?

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
It was the ninety one and the nineteen ninety two
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
My high school quarterback was the quarterback Trader Jay Trader
for the Washington Redskins and the Oakland Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
But I think we were Los Angeles Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Oh the LA Raiders. My bad.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Yeah. But he wasn't a starting quarterback for Washington. I
believe he was for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
He was, but he wasn't for our Excuse me, he
wasn't the starting quarterback for the Washington Redskins that year.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Oh he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
No, Mark Rippon was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Oh that's right, that's yeah, Yeah, ripping was and He
was eventually the starter for the Raiders when we got
beat eight thousand to zero by the Bills in the
AFC Championship game. How about Jim Kelly statline By the way,
thanks Pac ten guru, you got me down a rabbit
hole now in that game, Jim Kelly two hundred and
seventy five yards passing four interceptions. Ooh, Thurman Thomas ten

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carries for thirteen yards.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Yeah, that's not going to cut it. He should have
kept his helmet lost then, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Paul our resident Bills guru rights.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
I'm not sure how to handle this, but I'm feeling
happiness after a Bill's playoff game, and I haven't felt
this since nineteen ninety three. My takeaway, Lamar had a
few turnovers, but he played very well. Anyone who blames
in is just looking to continue a narrative. W's and
l's is not a quarterback stat.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Yeah, but we do put it on quarterbacks. There's no
way fans and what's about that? It's not like making
that up every You live and die by the quarterback.
That's why they get all that type of money.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
M U see Le Dodger Frank Roman Numeral fourteen too much,
the much too early. Which team next season has the
best chance of being the next Washington Commanders?

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Oh? I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
I was about to say the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
No, but I mean the Bears we.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Said that this year. Yeah, Well, let's just go with
the Dolphins. Then, how about that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Well, the Dolphins were in the playoff mix this year.
I mean the Washington pick second in the draft last year.
How about this one, New England. I think the Patriots
are gonna be really good next year. Now Drake may
is gonna be better. Uh, they got Vrabel in there.
They got a chance to get a play maker at
either edge rusher or maybe corner with Travis Hunter or
Abdukrarner in the draft. I think they're gonna be pretty

(01:51:51):
good next year. I think you're in trouble, Arnie. In
the AFC East. Congratulations on getting like the playoffs and
getting close to a win, But I think you're in
an uphill climb. You might be the fourth best team
roster wise going in the next year. I am a writer,
Rob Jay Wrights. Aarnie, I'm gonna use a word with

(01:52:11):
which you are familiar. How about this stinking officiating in
the Texans Chiefs game. Now we have a variety of
these in many different way, shape or form. Colin Wright's
probably good to spend some time talking about the pro
casey officiating so we can all get it out of
our system. And then our buddy Tennis Data writes another
vote for credibility issues with the officiating in the KC game.

(01:52:35):
Although the NFL wants to get swifties to watch the
boost ratings, but this is ridiculous. Mahomes should wear six
in honor of his flopping idol Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
James the referee or though whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
The head of the wind judge is Clay Martin, one
of my buddies, by the way, true story was, what
was the Chiefs have never lost the game? They're six
and oh whenever he's a referee six and oh or
seven and oh. He's an Oklahoma guy who we went
to the same college.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
No, that's pretty damn good, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
I can't confirm or deny whether or not he was
a Chiefs fan, but Clay's a stand up guy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
I mean, got a Chiefs tattoo on his butting every day.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Dophins, Hey, by the way, shout out to our buddy
Laura who is always checking it up in the up
in the New England area. And then there's Joe Judges
Burner who writes the NFL putting on ex ref shills
to spew nonsense and tell us our eyes don't work
what we saw yesterday, And the Chiefs fan, by those
in the Chiefs game, by those officials, should be investigated

(01:53:35):
at the highest quarter. Every family member, every friend of
that Cruise fan duel draft Kings account needs to be investigating.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
But we see it in slow mo. You don't get
to go ahead and review the hit on the quarterback
to you, that's not a review.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
No, not not in the pros. Not right right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Oh, then one more here, one more here for mister nobody,
because officiating is a key to If the officiating the
Bills game had been the same in the Houston Kansas
City game yesterday, the Bills would be facing Houston next week.
Detroit's defense, injuries or note, was mediocre to bat all year,
gave up thirty points to San fran forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
The Buffalo I'm not really shocked day lost.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
So he thought that the Texans would have won that
game against Kansas City if the officials didn't give the
Chiefs the calls.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
That's that's what I took from that tweet. That's what
I took from it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
They did one of the calls did lead to was
it seven or three they've got? I mean a couple
of the calls led to six points? I believe six
or ten? I'm not sure that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Well, the didn't the call and Anderson leading their first touchdown?
The refing the passer called? Didn't that lead to their
their touchdown?

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Drive?

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Thought led to a field goal? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Was it just a field goal? Well, I mean it's points.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
You know, I'm not argue with you. Yeah, absolutely all right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
When we come back, it's time for Arnie's Picks to
put a rap on this edition of Arnie and Plank
Fox Sports Radio. Barely talk to you tonight, Mary Mack.
I'm sorry, I've been running around like crazy here, okay,
but great job. Barely well, and then Patrick and I
have been fixing all the haters in baseball with the
Dodgers big signings. So great job by Mary Mick and
our producer Patrick sweeka disager on updates and in fact,

(01:55:17):
you know, we had so many tweets and I guess
x submissions tonight. We hardly got to all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
Yeah, we didn't get to nearly enough.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
But that also meant I didn't get to any of
the audio. But great job by our crew behind the
scenes mixing together the audio and all the post game
sound leaving anyone out.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
We gotta think I didn't even know our we had
a producer.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Same bit, every single Sunday night, same bit. Really Yeah,
great job by everyone involved.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Don't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
You can find the podcast as soon as we're done.
Search Fox Sports Radio and you'll see it right there
with the weekend. So what do you say. Apparently he's
changed the economy in Vermont. You have a right, so
take it away, stinking genius. What you got, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
You know, I'm afraid they're gonna kick me out of
Vermont if I still make everybody so much money, right,
because say, get the heck out of here. But you
know what, they can listen to me anywhere and take
my picks. It's a short, short picks today. I only
got three of them. Chris Championship Game today, tomorrow, whatever
you live on that Monday night, I'm taking Ohio State.

(01:56:23):
I'm gonna lay the eight and a half points. I
think Ohio State is the class act here. No tre
They will do it's best to keep it close, but
by the end it'll be like a fourteen point victory.
Ohio State wins it forty one twenty seven, So I
mean to take the over forty five and a half
in that game. Also, might as well jump on the

(01:56:44):
AFC and NFC Championship games next week. I love me
some Buffalo Bills, Chris My Bills, Baby. I think they're
gonna win the Super Bowl this year. I think this
is their year. Love them against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Kansas City does not scare me at all. Buffalo played

(01:57:05):
the better game today. They'd beat a good team. They
play like that against Kansas City, they'll be able to
beat them. I like the Bills twenty seven twenty four
over Kansas City. And how about this, You said I
didn't pick Washington against Detroit. Well you're not gonna say
that again because I'm picking Washington against Philadelphia thirty seven

(01:57:29):
thirty four. We're going to Washington to pull off the upset.
Se means we're gonna have a Super Bowl of Buffalo
and Washington. So there you have my picks. Do with
the mission please no longer strictly fred entertainment purposes. Only
my friend didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Didn't someone just bring that up last segment on the
text and you're like, yes they did, and you said, yeah,
that ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Did you change your mind?

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
I kind of. I didn't say it wasn't gonna happen.
I just didn't think it was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
But oh, how about this stat from Benjamin Slik at ESPN.
He said, the Texans became the first team yesterday Saturday
to outgain their opponent by one hundred or more yards,
not turn the ball over, Arnie, and lose a postseason game.
So get that's all the losing teams outgained the winning

(01:58:18):
teams this weekend in total yardage. The Texans were the
first team to not only outgain their opponents, but do
it by one hundred or more yards and not turn
the football over and lose a postseason game. Previous such
teams were forty nine and oh in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
When you're fighting the referees and stuff to do, stuff
to do there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Chris and the Chiefs were called for six penalties, six
to seven penalties, and the Chiefs were only called for
one at.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
One point in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
I saw that, all right, couple of your thoughts before
we get out.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
I'm a rotter, Rob, I'm a writer, Rob Jay.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
We're talking if hey, you think the Chiefs were unafeeded
with the play their starters in the final week, He writes,
the unfeetd pass play their starters every game, including their
last regular season game against the Giants with they won,
which they won and then thankfully turned around and lost
to him in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Jason B.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Diamond Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson was good enough to win
the game today. If Mark Andrews doesn't turn the ball
over and drop a wide open pass our buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
War fumball, and he doesn't throw an interception, they win
the game.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Warren Wrights, the two point conversion is this snake bite
that poisons teams a game end at game's end, You're
right every single time you're like, oh we need two
point conversion, you can never have your best play. And
then Colin writes, after the divisional round, I know this.
Coaches need to stop trying for two points. Until the
fourth quarter, the Ravens were zero and two. Had they

(01:59:49):
gone for one they would have tied it. Yeah, they
tried to do it twice, those analytics man. All right,
enjoy the National Championship game tonight, Arenie, talk to the
Monday Night Man.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Have a great week. Big Ben Now is coming up next.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Don't forget to check out the podcast or spots Sports Radio,
however you consume podcasts.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
See you next Sunday,

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