FOX Football Sunday with Adam Auslund recaps a Jam-Packed Week 12 in College Football, explains why we’re ALL Jerry Jones + The Athletic’s Law Murray joins the show!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome into Fox Football Sunday. I'm out a Mosland, Adam Ashland.
I have some other names too, Adam Alin gonna be
with you, guys. No k Fig tonight. It's double A
on a takeover of FSR. I think coming up this
hour if the game ever ends, this is the game
that never ends. Presno State Wyoming Patricks Papadekas is on

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the call. It's on FS one. He's supposed to come on.
I think he drove there and he was gonna check
in with me on the way back. So hopefully college
football analyst Petrocks Papadakas will be here. I know my
guy law Murray of the Athletic We'll be on talking
about the NBA because the season is underway. When I
did this about a month ago, filling in on a

(00:47):
Sunday Sunday Sunday, it was just preseason and I couldn't
really get into it, and I couldn't try to convince
you like I will tonight that the NBA is worth
watching even in No I swear.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Am I wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I don't think I am. But we got to
start things off talking college football in what I like
to call my college football rap here, which is not
like r ap rap tupacur. It's not like that w
r ap A recap of today's day in college football.
Let's go. First off, there's go time.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So Mark give me that good college football music. Yeah,
with the drum line Nick Cannon. So I woke up
late today because I was doing F and A on
FSR last night with Kevin Figures, and I turned on
Fox this morning, which was like at eleven thirty am
Pacific time by the time I got up, and I
see number eighteen Michigan in Northwestern and they're doing take

(01:50):
Me Out to the ballgame, and I'm wondering, what the
hell is going on here? I just woke up. Well,
they were playing at Wrigley Field, because Northwestern doesn't have
a home. Too good for your home. They don't have
a home stadium right now. But the football game at
Wrigley was drunker than Harry Carer used to be drunker
than Wolverine in the Logan movie. Is how the Wolverines

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were looking after we thought they were about to run
away with it up twenty one to nine heading into
the fourth, just for Northwestern to score two touchdowns within
the first three minutes of the quarter to take the lead.
They used to do a couple picks from Bryce Underwood,
you know, the number one recruit in the country. Not
always a great thrower of the football, though, Underwood threw

(02:38):
a pick to Robert Fitzgerald and I thought for a second,
it's the fighting Fitzgerald's they're back. But no no relation
to Pat Fitzgerald out there. But Michigan kicked a field
goal to win it from thirty one yards out twenty
four to twenty two. And Gus Johnson said it best
on Fox quote on their worst day, they still come
back to win it, and they found a way to

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over come five turnovers. Head coach Shearan Moore said postgame quote,
you don't win a game with five turnovers. I would add, though,
unless you're playing Northwestern, the Michigan Wolverines are hard to
finish off though they are a ben but do not
break adamantium Wolverine defense. They held up enough to make

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up for Bryce underwood turnovers. Now they went out, They're
most likely in because while they have an unraked Maryland
team on the road next week, they then get Ohio
State at the Big House to end the season. You
beat the number one ranked team in the country, the
defending national champions. Well, you only have two losses. You

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should be in. Should be but hold on a minute,
now play unless USC or Oklahoma went out because both
of them beat Michigan head to head, so they got
to watch for that, and we'll get to Oklahoma in
a little bit. Meanwhile, number three Texas A and M
stays undefeated after a comeback down thirty to three at

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the half to South Carolina, the largest comeback in an
SEC Conference game over the last twenty years. Teams had
been oh in two hundred and eighty six in that
situation since two thousand and four. But people were talking
about something else that occurred off the field in the
tunnel more so than the game.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm not going NWA.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
With this or.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
From the grass, but who was that Texas State trooper
that thought he was the main character and ran into
the South Carolina players in the tunnel and then turned
and pointed at them, having words with them. I don't
think it's against the law to go up thirty to
three on Texas A and M, although some game cocks
or gamblers might want them arrested for blowing that twenty

(04:48):
seven point leads. So there was a ninety seven percent
chance Texas A and M was going to lose that
game of the half, But there's a one hundred percent
chance that cop was an A and M fan that
was furious his team was down big and started power tripping,
intentionally bumping into Nick Harbor after that long touchdown. Texas

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police said afterwards they've removed this state trooper from his
game day assignment duties. Moving forward, he can probably spend
more time getting ready for his audition for Super Troopers
three instead. Maybe, oh, none of it is a reflection
on law enforcement. Of course, we need them, but we

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need them to act responsibly and professionally in order to
ensure trust with the general public and US civilians. That
was completely unprofessional and may require further discipline, like having
to watch that first half by Texas A and M
on repeat for a week straight because that was ugly.
But credit then with the comeback. The College Football Committee
liked Indiana's comeback on Penn State last week. They might

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reward this too. I don't see A and M moving
down from their number three spot currently number twenty two.
Pitch though, might have to take a step back and
drop out of the top twenty five. After their vaunted
run defense got shredded by the Golden Domers, Pitt retired
Aaron Donald's number, and then it appeared the rest of
their active defenders retired mid game as Jeremiah Love went

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for one hundred and forty seven yards on the ground
and a touchdown. Notre Dame would win thirty seven to fifteen.
But this game was lost for Pitt. Earlier in the week,
when they're head coach pat nerdoozy drop this, doozy of
a quote. You said this when asked if the game
against Notre Dame was a must win, he went, quote,

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absolutely not. It is not NACC game. I'm glad you
brought that up. It's not NACYC game. I'd gladly get
beat one hundred and three or one ten to ten
in that game. They can put up one hundred on
us as long as we win the next two after that.
Wish not quite Granted they only lost by twenty two,
but yeah, that's how you get your guys riled up.

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That's how you rally the troops, get your players ready
for a big game against Number nine. Notre Dame by
basically saying it doesn't matter. Even funnier at the end
of the game, with six seconds left down thirty seven
and nine, apparently things started to matter again for Nardoozy,
who was calling timeouts to get a meaningless touchdown. You
may be wondering, maybe it wasn't so meaningless to some,

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like was the fix in? No, no, no, no, no no,
it wasn't a spread thing. Pitt was only getting twelve
and a half points. They still lost by twenty two,
So all this was was Nardoozi trying to dress up
the final score and make it seem like it was
much closer than the game really was. Even Bachelor host
Jesse Palmer, because I can barely remember his time in

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Florida at this point, asked during the game out of curiosity,
what was the spread here? Like everyone was wondering what
the hell Pitt was doing. All of a sudden, they
had a sense of urgency out there to get a
touchdown in. But Pitt just thinks they can win the
ACC still and get a bid to the playoff. USC

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wins out they could get in. After a complete tale
of two halves type ball game against IWA at home today.
In the first half it looked like the university has
spoiled children football, But in the second half it looked
like prime Pete Carroll back at USC, with Reggie Bush
out there not really playing because those games didn't count. No,

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I think they brought him back eventually. Do you ever
get his heisman back? Who cares? But IWA was shredding
USC's line in the first half. It had me thinking
Lincoln Riley built their O line out of Lincoln logs
and popsicle sticks, and their quar quarterback Jade Mayava, he
kind of has an issue when he's under duress. He
completes seventy six percent of his passes with a clean pocket,

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just thirty nine percent when he's under pressure, so it
kind of matters, and they were just letting guys get
three shots on him in the first half. Meanwhile, i WA,
their anemic offense, allegedly scored on three of their first
four possessions and completed a Philly special touchdown on USC.

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So they lead twenty one to ten at the half
at the Rainy Coliseum. They had out gained USC two
hundred and twelve yards to one fifty six. Notre Dame
fans were saying, at this rate, USC is going to
demand they play Iowa in September as well. Things looked
that bleak, but then USC's defense stood strong, not allowing
a point in the second half. McKayle Lemon ended up

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with one hundred and fifty yards a touchdown. He was brilliant.
Ryan Jackson had to go ahead touchdown, but I was
still had it down. Five was just two minutes left
on a fourth and six and the receiver, I think
it was number twenty one, Wes Welker looking guy. He
caught a sideline pass but his toe looked to be out.

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I over the line. It was close enough where some
IWA fans were still irate, but you couldn't overturn it
because it was too close. The call in the field
was he was out. I'm sorry they got the call right. Anyways,
I haven't seen Lincoln Riley this animated after a victory
like ever. He was jumping around like he just won

(10:19):
the prices right showcase. Then the clouds cleared a rainbow
shot over the colisseum as the rain subsided, and it
looked like he found his pot of gold at the
end of the rainbow or something. With the way he celebrated.
He needs to relax because they're going to Austin next week,
and uh, I believe my Ducks are going to hand

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usc their third loss. But because it's organ up at
the bomb rip at the end, not even Brent Venables
was as excited as Lincoln Riley about beating Alabama today.
As for why number four Alabama lost to number eleven
Oklahoma at home of plays, Obama hadn't lost to an

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SEC team since twenty nineteen, turnovers. Alabama had six turnovers
on the year. They had three in this game alone
at Brian Denny Stadium, And look at where Oklahoma's field
position was on each score. They went just twenty three
yards for their first field goal, then they had to
pick six, then had to go just thirty one yards

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for their only offensive touchdown, a Job Materier nice touchdout run.
They go just forty one yards for another field goal,
twenty two yards for another field goal outside of the
pick six, they only had to travel one hundred and
seventeen yards total on offense to get those fourteen points
in their twenty three to twenty one victory. And Oklahoma
now has a fifty three percent chance to make it

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to the College Football Playoff. Whatever you put into that,
never tell me the odds, ESPN calculators and however they
figure this out with the navocates or whatever it's math.
It's a rip fifty three percent chance to make it
to the playoff. Cokloma. They got Missou and LSU at
home as their next two games, now Georgia and Texas.

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That was really the highlight, or it should have been.
Ended up being a little bit anti climactic. I would
say it went as expected for me. I said last
night on FNA. Georgia was minus five and a half.
I felt confident in that you could lay those points
against Texas because they're lost at home to Alabama. Required

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Ty Simpson to play out of his mind to win
an Athens Georgia. Arch Manning can't do that. He was screwed,
and I don't even blame him. The receivers Ryan Wingo
dropping balls like Texas. They were zero to six on
third downs in the first half. They couldn't get anything going.

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And then when they finally did, Georgia responded with that
ten place seventy three yard drive. They converted multiple fourth
downs touchdown to Humphreys, then Kirby Smart. This guy great kid.
Don't get cocky kid anymore. He's an expert. Maybe it
seems to me like you're an expert. They go for

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the on side kick catch. Texas completely by surprise. They
knew earlier in the week that Georgia would try something
special with their special teams. They knew it was coming.
They still couldn't stop it. Georgia got the ball back
scored again. The game was basically over. I think there

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was an outside chance of Texas making it as a
three loss team if they were more competitive in this
game and won out, which would mean beating Texas A
and M in their final game. But uh, that's gone.
That's over. The bomb's lost, the Burt Orange or burnt,
it's over, Burt toast. They're not making the College Football

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Playoff and they shouldn't. It was strange to me the
committee had them tenth. They had two losses. Notre Dame
also had two losses in their ninth. You can see
this is brand recognition here. This is what happens. They
get more of the benefit of the doubt. But Texas
lost that first game of the season on the road

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to Ohio State, and I guess their logic was they
lost close to the number one team in the country,
so we're not gonna let that hold them back. But
they hadn't looked great. They lost a FLOORDA on the road.
They were playing better, but they still to scrape by
and a couple of road games that went to overtime.
I never bought into it, I mean after at least

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the first couple weeks, because I did feel like coming
into the season, we all bought into arch Manning being
better than this. Very disappointing for them. They have to
be out now. With three losses, it's over. Oklahoma jumps them.
They're the big winner. I guess moving up beating number
four or Alabama this week Georgia, they could take Alabama

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spot now and move up right behind Texas A and
M in the four slot. Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, A,
and M. All them won convincingly or impressively. Texas A
and M. I know they had to come back, but
the committee loved it last week when Indiana did it
against Penn State, so they're going to reward them too, probably,
but Texas is gone. You're out, b Yu. They ended

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up winning right against the horn Frogs bri They beat
TCU right, okay, forty four to thirteen. It wasn't much
doubt they were able to get that done, but they
still lost to Texas Tech convincingly. Now if they get
him in the Big twelve Championship game, which likely will,
and then beat them, then then you could have some
chaos with two Big twelve teams getting in because Texas

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Tech handled their business today too. All Miss though a
little sketchy. I don't know if you're Florida and you're
apparently offering Lane Kiff in a blank check to come there,
and then he's down to Florida in the first half
of that game. They would eventually win, but that's not great.

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Ole Miss final score thirty four to twenty four over
Florida at home, but they were down to the half.
Now Lane Kiffin supposedly gets his pick. Does he want
to go to Florida? Does he want to go to
LSU Arkansas Auburn. Now there's a rumor forget all that
he'd go the Pros, he'd go the New York Giants

(16:36):
and hook back up with his former quarterback in Jackson Dart.
That would be interesting.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Maybe you and I could partner up.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
But he's getting what it starts, a ten million year
if he stays in college, he's in good shape either way.
I just he's the best guy available. I don't know
if the options are great, and still have my concerns
over him. Great play caller, but that game was far
too close for comfort against a prospect or prospective college

(17:09):
that he could be at next. All in all, pretty
good week O OKLAMBA game was great. Texas Georgia. Could
have been better. It would be better if we had
Petrick Papadaka's coming on next. We'll see. We're floating things
right now. I got a lot to get into though.

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are going to rank the NFL matchups in week eleven,
the matchups we love and the ones we hate. Speaking
of hate, might let Breebree help me out there. Our
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
Adam Ashley, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday. I'm
out of Moslin here on FSR, coming up, hoping to
connect with Petro's Papadakis on his way back from Presno.
They got the victory over Wyoming. We just went through
our college football rap a few minutes ago, Tupac Shakur.
It's not that type of rap. It was not just

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a bit of a recap. But we got more en you.
We got NFL coming up. We're going to get into
every matchup in week eleven and rank them. Matchup power
rankings is how I like to put it here. I
do think something bears mentioning maybe it's me. Maybe it's

(19:18):
just me and Mark. Maybe you could support me with
some roundball rock here. But I am into the early
NBA season. Now. I know you may say I'm biased
because I work for the Clippers, because the studio hosts
for the pre half and postgame on the radio side,
and I have to be I'm telling you though, Oh,
Mark was slick with it. How are you that quick?

(19:39):
Is John Tesh in the room with us? Amazing the skills?
Speaking of this NBA season so far, I know you're
ignoring it because of football. It has been that good
to start things off tonight. What did you get? Oh,
you know, Luca don just dropping forty? Okay, see plan

(20:03):
best team in the world by far. Nikola Jokich is
no Joe Kitsch, who I saw go for fifty five
in LA on Wednesday, and Denver Nuggets fans started trolling
me because they watched the postgame show and saw how
much love I was giving Nikola Jokic. It's like, what
am I supposed to do? I know I'm working for
the Clippers here, but the story was Jokich having fifty

(20:27):
five and it looked like light work out there and
then Kendrick Perkins comes out and says, basically, with what
he does on a nightly basis, with his highlights, it
puts Hakeem Elijah Wan to shame. Now is that too far?
Is that hyperbolic? Is that a hot take? Of course

(20:47):
it's Kendrick Perkins. He's been wrong before. I don't know
if you guys remember his Nico Harrison tweet saying the
Mavericks won the trade, you dumb ass. Okay. He was
getting lit up for that one earlier this week because
everybody was reminding him. It wasn't just old takes exposed.
He was the one guy that was sure that the

(21:10):
Mavericks won the trade with the Lakers trading away. Luka
Dancic and I do have a hit piece coming out
later on Nico Harrison because I have to go after
him after he was fired earlier this week. It was inevitable.
But his latest comment, which might also age poorly, although
because of Akim's age, it's not like he's coming back

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to prove that he's better than Niko Jokic. Jokic is
amazing on the offensive end. He is a much better
passer than Hikim olijh Wan there is no comparison there.
He is more of an offensive hub that you play
through than maybe Hikeem was because of that playmaking ability,
because he leads the league and assists so far, and

(21:54):
in that game where he dropped fifty five on the
Clippers a couple of days ago, they basically said, we're
gonna make him score. I don't know if it was
a great game plan. They said, we're taking away his passings,
that he's only gonna get six assists, We're taking away
the passes. We're gonna make him more one dimensional out there.
Jokic said, bet, I'm gonna score fifty five both game

(22:19):
coach Lou said, okay, that was the plan. We didn't
know he was actually gonna score fifty five. Though it
felt worse like it felt like it's over nine. Yeah,
it felt like nine thousand points were scored on the
Clippers because he did it so damn efficiently. And he's
still going up against one of the better defenders in
the league, the best defender against him, and if eats

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the Zubos for a lot of it. Some Robin Lopez
mak it Brook Lopez as well, but you have some
real unicorns in this League right now, special guys like
we've never seen with Jokic out there averaging triple doubles
at the center position, shooting it like he does from
the outside where I know some people hated the rule
change to where you no longer penalize somebody for a

(23:01):
half court heave at the end of a quarter because
I think it's soft. Guys should have to have that
factored into their fuel goal percentage. I get it. Guys
weren't taking them because they were trying to save their percentages.
That is kind of weak. You could see them playing
I think they called it ballbonic plague, where they're trying
to get rid of the basketball to somebody else so

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that they don't have to take the last shot to
end a quarter. You could see that happening a lot,
especially the last few years. So guys had gotten worse
when it came to not wanting to take that final shot,
so they changed the rule. But the thing is Jokic
would always do it. He didn't care. Jokic would take
that shot. Three point percentage be damned well. Last season

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ekally Jokic he ended up shooting. If you take out
those heaves from distance like forty five percent from three
on decent volume for a big man. He was at
forty two percent from the floor or excuse me, from
three overall. But you take away all his half court
heaves that aren't exactly as representative for your three point percentage.
And that's why I don't mind the rule being changed.

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I want to know how good a guy really is
at taking threes, not half court shots or seventy footers,
and those got factored in previously to the three point percentage.
But if you take those out. For Jokic last season
he shot like forty five percent from three, that might
have been the difference for him winning MVP over Shay
in the regular season. Now he lost to him in
the second round in seven games. But we are looking

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at stuff we've never seen before. So even though Kendrick
Perkins may have committed blasphemy saying that Hakim Elijahwan has
nothing on Niko Jokic, I kind of understand it to
some degree because offensively, Hakim did not have touch around
the hoop like this. Yes, in the paint he was devastating,
dreamshake all that, but Joki is shooting like he's Dirk

(24:44):
Novinsky out there. Hakim wasn't doing that. Maybe he plays
in today's league with the emphasis on three balls, it's different.
I could see it being different. Don't get me wrong
with the old heads getting upset with me right now,
I can feel it. Settle down and break your radio
over this. I love Hakeem. He's one of my favorite
players ever and there's no comparison to them. Defensively, Hakim

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Alaijwan is an all time great defender and led his
team to back to back titles in the nineties, one
of them when Jordan was still out for the year.
The other he came back and lost to the Orlando
Magic in the second round. But it doesn't count right
because he only played nineteen games in the regular season.
Never mind the fact that he was getting thirty per
game in the playoffs and looked fine. He lost. It's

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weird watching that game six. By the way, like Jordan
losing a playoff series in the nineties, it happened, I
guess in nineteen ninety in nineteen ninety five, and that's it. Obviously,
he didn't play ninety nine after the second retirement. But
if you want to compare Hakem to Jokic, you have
to include defense. If you're going to say the Jokic

(25:54):
highlights far outweigh anything you saw from Hakim, you better
be specific and say you're only he's talking about on
the offensive end. And even there, Akim Elijhuan was a
monster when he won his championships. He was older too,
he had lost some athleticism, but there was so much
skill out there. Jokis though it's all skill. He was

(26:14):
never the greatest athlete. Have you seen that picture floating
around him as a kid where he's got man boobs.
I mean he may still have them. Not a pure athlete.
He is as skilled of a player as we have
ever seen, though, and seeing that in person, him dropping

(26:35):
the fifty five the double nickel on the Clippers last
Wednesday on I think like eighteen of twenty three shooting,
it made me appreciate just how good we got it
right now in the NBA. Yeah, he was eighteen to
twenty three. That's almost eighty percent from the field. That's
Julian saying. Throwing the football for Ohio State and he

(26:58):
still had twelve boards and six assists. By the way,
assists were down because he was scoring so much. But
the game isn't a great spot, especially because you hear
the NBC music. Well, the NBA is back on NBC
for the first time since two thousand and two, and
they're actually celebrating it, unlike Charles Barkley and the rest
of the guys on TNT, who never would celebrate it.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
That's not goal happen.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, they would sometimes, but most of it came across
as hate. And back in my day, it was better
this that it was more physical. Blah blah blah. You
know what's more physical having to run more miles per game,
which is what guys have to do nowadays compared to
the nineties. That's what puts more stress on your body,
more explosive movements in the half court. There is so
much more sophistication defensively right now in the game because

(27:42):
offenses have gotten so good. You have to guard space
because guys like Nicola Jokic, who at seven feet tall,
are shooting three pointers and there's nothing you can do
about it. But then you also can get on the
block like a cheme and hurt you there and if
you double, he's finding a cutter or Aaron Gordon who
he has, Like is it telekinesis when you can read
somebody's mind. Telepathy, Cansius is you can move things with

(28:05):
your mind. Canisis kinesiology major right here, Yeah, movement studying, movement,
I remember things. I'm smart here, Come.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
On, great kid, don't get cocky.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
He has that innate telepathy with Aaron Gordon. Trust me,
I've seen it many times so of Laker fans here
in southern California. Denver has dominated both teams here in
Southern California. But speaking of I do want to talk
about the Lakers coming up because Luca Doncion drops forty

(28:37):
tonight and they actually are getting more out of DeAndre Ayton,
who a lot of people be hating with, like Brewbery Heart,
let that hate out, Let it out, Brie, a former
Phoenix Sun I've I've seen your tweets. You were praying
for his downfall. You're praying to the hate basketball gods
that he would be terrible as a Laker.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I'm just saying, I just don't believe in the theory
of like, oh, change of scenery, everything's gonna be completely
better now.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You've never seen that in sports before. I mean, what
happened to Randy Moss after he left the Raiders and
went to the pass. Now, it only lasted for a
couple of seasons and then he got shipped off again.
But it happens every year, Russell Westbrook, especially over the
last few years. Come on, there's that honeymoon period and

(29:26):
then those same players typically end up getting moved again.
But for a while it works. DeAndre aid right now,
we'll talk about it coming back. But what JJ Redick
is doing for the Lakers, what Luka Dancic is doing,
and how that relates to the Dallas Mavericks and Nico
Harrison and something I'm going to talk about later in
the show. Well, it's special and I'm a Clipper fan

(29:47):
having to acknowledge this, it hurts greatly. Coming up next,
more NBA talk. I'm out of Mosland. It's Fox Football Sunday.
Don't worry. We got NFL all of next hour and
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wanted to, but I just couldn't do it. Adam Ashland,

(30:10):
Adam Ashland, Adam Ashmus, Welcome back in is Fox Football Sunday.
I'm Adam Osland. How you say it? Please? Adam Ashwus. Yeah,
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People can get my last name wrong. Forever is Adam

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Ausland at k fig one is where you can find
Kevin Figures, who I was working with last night on
the f and A takeover of FSR. Now this is
double A on FSR. Adam Ousland at follow Adam A
is where you find me on X. Coming up, we
will rank the matchups, all fourteen of them in Week

(30:53):
eleven of the NFL season. I'm looking forward to this.
We did it about a month ago. The first time
I thought it was pretty successful. I thought it went well,
so we're bringing it back. We're gonna try it again.
But it's unfortunately that the Dallas Mavericks can't bring back
Luka Doncics. Right now. I have more on this later
in a hit piece on Nico Harrison, because I can't

(31:15):
get enough of hating on this guy. I've been doing
the you know, the something goes wrong in my life
and certain people would say thanks Obama, something goes wrong
in my life. I would say thanks Nico. I would
because since nine months ago when he made that faithful
trade of Luka Doncic to the Lakers. I haven't been

(31:36):
able to get over that. It still bothers Hime, especially
on a night like tonight where Luca drops forty one
points on just nineteen shots because he got to the
free throw line twenty times or attempted twenty of them.
Lakers always seem.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
They're like a plus twelve hundred the last two seasons
in the free throw department. But he now has more
forty point games so far this season, and it's early,
it's only November, than the Dallas Mavericks have wins. He
has four forty point games. Dallas has three wins. It

(32:15):
gets worse by the day. It doesn't stop. Anthony Davis
has been heard. Of course, Kyrie was out. They're lucky
they had Cooper Flag in the draft. Nico Harrison tried
to act like that was part of the vision. Please,
you had like a one point six percent chance of

(32:35):
getting the number one pick in the draft. You lucked
into that had nothing to do with it. I mean,
never tell the odds. How does this happen for the
Lakers of all teams? I know Laker fans are happy
hanging the Nico Harrison banner or Jersey retire it. Maybe
he'll end up in the front office at some point

(32:56):
once the dust settles. But in Dallas there was a
full revolt for a good reason. When you have seen
Luka Naciz lose weight look better than ever. He hits
like five step back three pointers tonight in Milwaukee against
the Bucks. The Lakers have been undermanned and they continue
to win. Anyways, everything's coming up roses for them, and

(33:22):
meanwhile you're laying the flowers of the cemetery for what's
happened to the Dallas Mavericks. They got Cooper Flag, but
it's a lost season for them.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
They could have a huge sell off Anthony Davis, he
could be traded. Everybody outside of Cooper Flag is expendable.
Klay Thompson, who has been shooting like twenty five percent
from the field. I don't know who's going to want
to trade for that, but he's available. If you're wondering
somebody else who could be available after this season because

(33:56):
he has a player option for eight million dollars. That
would be DeAndre Ayton, who is eating right now as
a member of the Lakers. You may remember him during
the twenty twenty one Phoenix Sun's run to the NBA Finals,
where they were up two to oh to the Milwaukee Bucks,
only to lose the next four games. He played pretty

(34:18):
darn well throughout those playoffs. Saw him against my Clippers
the valuep as they call it, the inbounds play at
the end of Game two, where Steven A. Smith and
Michael Wilbond's mouths were a jar, just a gape open.
I DeAndre Aiden being this good, I knew it could

(34:42):
turn around. I did not think to this degree this
early in the season. Now context, lebron James still out
for the Lakers. They still have to re implement him
at some point, and right now it's hilarious. Austin Reeves
postgame after their victory tonight in Milwaukee was like, can
you believe it? Bronnie James was starting tonight for the Lakers. Meanwhile,
his dad is in the G League on a rehab

(35:03):
assignment coming back from age injuries. I think it's a
foot injury. They're bringing him along slowly. But DeAndre Aiden
had twenty and ten on nine to thirteen shooting. Is
guarding Giannis Denikoumpo out there and looks closer to the

(35:25):
guy that was drafted first overall back in twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, somewhere in there by the Phoenix Suns who
could have had Luka Doncics. By the way, now they're
playing together in Los Angeles, and DeAndre Ayden looks like
he has some joy. He's not just removed from the
Phoenix Suns and that disaster, but the Portland Trailblazers who

(35:47):
are playing better. They got stuff happening with the head
coach and investigation going on, but they got some young talent.
There's a reason DeAndre Ayton was available. He's been laid
to malcontent, a guy that never lived up to his potential.
But he's only twenty seven and the Lakers were in

(36:08):
need of front court help and they got him for
practically nothing. For eight million. I think it's part of
the mid level exception. And he's bawling out sixteen eight boards,
thirty minutes per game, a block, half a steal, and
tonight postgame he's asked in the locker room. I think

(36:33):
it's Dan Woiki of the Athletic who's asking him, like
you're a lot happier now. I just listen to this
audio from DeAndre A and this is what happens with
a change of scenery.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
No, I want to know what's made you happiness?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
By your time? How do you think I'm happy?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I was happy?

Speaker 7 (36:53):
How do you feel that?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I don't think you know. I don't have no category.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I love everybody.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
I love everybody, trying to less than possible to just
make everybody.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Happy, everybody accepting me.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
So yeah, I'm happy. Come on, come on, you're asking
the questions.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's rhetorical.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Listen to this movie. He's bleeping excited. Is he happy?
He couldn't help himself. He had a he had a swear.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You have to use so many cuss words.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
He's elated, he's euphoric. That's what a change of scenery
can do. Some are gonna say that's what not having
Lebron James back can do. I know, I know the
Lebron haters. I call it Lebron's arrangement syndrome. It's out there.
He's happy now. How look when Lebron is back, he
gets less touches. But everything's working for them. They're playing great.

(37:56):
They had a couple of bad losses. Everybody gets killed
by Okay, see at least once a season, you're due
for that. But listen to this man again. He hasn't
ever sounded like this.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
How do you do? I'm s number?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So how does this happen? Well, you're playing next to
Luka Doncic, who throws one of the best lobs in
a pick and roll in the league. Asked Derek Lively,
Asked Daniel Gafford, asked Niko Harrison, who should have seen
that and realized his worth. He's an offensive system with
a high pick and roll. He makes life easier for

(38:32):
big man out there. Also, ask JJ Reddick. While he
may be aging like a president right now, Jj, you
could tell he's staying up late, he's crushing in the
film room. He's bringing out the best in this Lakers
squad so far. He was out there wearing a T
shirt pregame that was half a lion and then your

(38:57):
side of the face was DeAndre eight. He said, that's
how he wants him to play like a lion out there.
So sorry, Bri. If you were thinking a leopard can't
change his spots just by going to another place, well
he ain't a leopard. He's a lion, That's who DeAndre
Ayden is. I'm not lying right now. Look at the
way he's playing, look at how good he's been. You

(39:17):
think it's not gonna last. Probably won't, But for now,
everything's good in La La Land with the Lakers. DeAndre
Aiden's had a makeover. I've had of ozon f and
A on FSR.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Next, you're listening to Fox Sports Welcome back in It's
Fox Football Sunday.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm out him a double A, Adam Oslin, whatever you
want to call me. Coming up later this hour, we
got some geek news for you of the stocking stuffer variety.
I'm gonna give you some early gift ideas. If you're
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that probably will cost you a pretty penny because it's

(39:57):
like an antique now. But I do want to remind
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and subscribe. All right, So we tried this out about
a month ago. It was highly successful. Rave Reviews, Medic

(40:43):
critic loved it, and we're gonna do it again right now.
I'm calling this the week eleven NFL matchup rankings. Now.
The reason for doing this is to have a callback
to a much simpler time. Do you believe in time travel?

(41:04):
Is that a beer at Trader Joe's. Simpler times look
a long time ago. For a lot of you kids
out there, there was no NFL Red Zone, there was
no NFL Sunday ticket. You were forced to watch whatever
regional football games you could get. It was not the
Coca Cola freestyle machine of NFL football like we have now.

(41:26):
You can get whatever you want, like it's ti whatever
you're in the mood for. If the only game on
was the Browns or Raiders back then, and you complain
saying I'm tired of this, Grandpa, you know what he said, back. Well,
that's too damn bad, as the meme goes, But today
you have all the games you want and even the

(41:49):
ones you don't want. So let's rank the matchups this
week from least interesting to most interesting, Like I would
miss the birth of my firstborn to see this game.
Maybe we get some NFL music here, Oh, Mark's already
on it. Now you can base it on whatever criteria
you want, based off the teams you love or you hate,

(42:10):
the time of day when the game is being played,
who you think sucks, who you think is great, Who's
good but you don't enjoy watching them, Who's bad but
you think they're kind of fun to watch. Here are
the power rankings for Week eleven of the NFL season.
Now we got two teams on a bye lucky for Bree.
The Aints are on a bye, the Colts are on
a bye. And we just had a game that was

(42:30):
played on Thursday. Who the hell won? Is it a weekday?

Speaker 6 (42:36):
What was the Patriots one?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
The other Patriots beat the Jets, No wonder, I forgot
about it as Jets forgot about it. But throwing up
for that game. Let's start with number fourteen. Is we
got fourteen matchups left here. I'm tired of this international
tour by the NFL. Is that a world tour or
your girls tour? Goodell? I shouldn't have to wake up
three hours after this show is done at six thirty

(42:58):
am Pacific time to watch the Commanders and Dolphins in Madrid.
We invented football here in America. Not sure if you notice,
but during the NFL combine at the forty yard dash,
Roger Goodell actually is at the starting block with a
branding iron that scorches the tukess of every player with

(43:21):
a maid in the USA mark on their butt cheeks,
and it also helps them run faster with a forty Yeah,
football is our game, not football football. I deserve to
watch even terrible matchups like in this game the Dolphins
and Commanders at a reasonable time. The only way I'm
gonna be able to do this with three hours of

(43:43):
sleep is if I use some of those illegal smelling salts.
The NFL is already banned, so because of the early
start to this one, it's not even about the matchup
so much. It's Fins and Commanders. I'm not getting up
that early. I'm just not I'm protesting. We do that
in America too, Brie. What's number fourteen for you here
in the NFL matchup?

Speaker 6 (44:04):
Definitely a less dramatic approach.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
I took I did a Titans at Titans just because
the Houston defense is going to be like all over
cam Ward and I don't think it's just going to
be an entertaining watch at all. And I think it'll
be the second time they'll shut out Tennessee this season.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Well, Tennessee has lost like eight straight home.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
Games, so I just think it's gonna be super boring,
like who cares?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Okay, well that's a good criteria, thank you. That's why
it's your least watchable game this week, all right. Number
thirteen for me, my matchup power ranking surprisingly goes to
my Panthers. They're at the Falcons. We just lost to
the Saints. The season is over. If you're lose to
the Saints, you are never seeing football Heaven. I'm back

(44:45):
in Panthers football hell, where we either have a ginger
at quarterback or a guy shorter than his bobblehead in
Bryce Young. I can see the Falcons crushing them in
this game, something I don't need to see, so I
will not be watching this match either that's thirteen for me,
breewich yours.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
That's hilarious because that's also my thirteenth. And I said
that they're the purgatory trash teams in the NFC garden.
But I actually think the Falcons are gonna be like
have like an international hangover from last week, and.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
I actually think the Panthers.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
Are gonna take it and they have to bounce back
after beating the Saints. You know, I think there's some
positivity there for you.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Well, it's definitely gut check time after losing to the
Saints exactly.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
So yeah, So, like I said, superpurgatory teams in the NFC.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
So that's why I have it at thirteen.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
All right, to number twelve in our matchup power rankings.
For me, this is Houston at Tennessee. The only interest
I have in this game is thinking about the Houston
Texans and if they have any pride that Tennessee took
their original team and the Houston Oilers, and if there's
gonna be extra motivation to beat them there or is
it the other way around where the Titans are like

(45:52):
we were the original Houston team. Who are these imposters
called the Texans we're gonna kick their ass. I don't know.
I just thinking about the baby blue worn by Warren
Moon and Earl Campbell, and I would much rather watch
Warren Moon play quarterback than CJ. Shroud or cam Ward
who might be a bust. I know it's early, I

(46:13):
know it's not fair, but yeah, that is number twelve
for me on the list, Brie.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
I have commanders at Dolphins, so the International Games, so
we just kind of flip flop those. I think the
Commanders are gonna get run over by the Dolphins and
just to kind of see all the Dolphins like get
all like hyped up for beating the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
I think it's gonna be a.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Little entertaining, but like not enough for well, I'll be working,
so I will be here watching the game. So it's
more about just watching the Commanders lose.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Don't disrespect the Dolphins, like they shouldn't get hyped up
for being the commanders. They just beat the Bills, you know, yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Exactly, but it's just like, Okay, you're beating commanders without
Jade and Daniels. Ooh, Marcus Mariota, ooh, that's such.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
A confidence builder, like yay.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
So yeah, no, I don't know, and to see them
all hyped up and I'm like, for what, You're not
gonna win your division?

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Like, so what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Turned down? For what? Hyped up for?

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
All right? The eleventh most interesting matchup for me at
least is San Francisco at Arizona taking on the Cardinals.
These are not the droids you're looking for or the
NFC West battle that you're looking for this week. One
team in the forty nine ers is injured and has
been toying with us for at least a month on
if Rock Purty is actually going to play. Brock Purty

(47:22):
gonna play, it sounds like he is. I think finally,
Kyle Shanahan been played some real mind games about that.
It's got annoying. The other is the Cardinals. They should
move back to Saint Louis and have Kyler Murray play
for the Saint Louis Cardinals baseball team, since he can't
be worse there than he is playing quarterback for them.
And I know Brissett is in at starting quarterback now,

(47:44):
but Kyler Murray apparently had a choice and he chose football,
and he may have chose portly.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Bri what's the number eleventh best matchup for you? At
or one?

Speaker 6 (47:53):
We have a Ravens at Brown's.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
I think it's just gonna be an easy game for Baltimore,
like light work.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well, it wasn't the first.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
Meeting I was gonna say so, like, yeah, I just
think that this is just gonna be a turnaround game
for Baltimore. Then everyone next week is gonna be like, wow,
the Ravens are back, and you were one of the
first ones on.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
That or I was exactly forgive me credit for so
we can.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
Just come on so anyway, So yeah, I'm just saying
so I think that's why.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
It's number eleven for me.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm shocked why you actually gave me credit.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Well, I'm not saying you were like the only one
in the media that we are.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I was. I was. I was the vanguard of that.
I was at the forefront. I was leading the charge.
This was actually before they lost to the Rams. I
was like, even if they lose to the Rams and
start one in five, I still think the Ravens can
turn it around and win the division.

Speaker 7 (48:42):
Odds where they still were going to win the division
and they were. That was like the one after one
and five or whatever?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
What do we say about the odds?

Speaker 6 (48:50):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
All right, tenth most intriguing matchup for me is Green
Bay at New York taking on the Giants. Is either
team going to score twenty points in this game? Are
the Packers ever going to be the macaroni with the
cheese heads that they were supposed to be? Is Jameis
Winston going to throw three touchdowns or three picks or both?

(49:11):
I don't know. I guess I do kind of want
to see his cinematic motivational speech, the rallying cry he
always does, and if he's gonna eat a W or
an L that's kind of intriguing. Either one could induce choking,
but the Giants are used to that at the end
of games anyways. So this is number ten for me.
Green Bay is disappointing me. I might have to take
an l there because they're my Super Bowl pick. I

(49:33):
might have to take a white out to what I
wrote down here at Fox Sports Radio, and everybody chose
their Super Bowl matchup and who was gonna win. I
had the Packers, but who you got number ten?

Speaker 7 (49:44):
And you're I have the forty nine Ers at Cardinals,
and I just think the return of Rock Party, I
think is a little bit overhyped, just a little bit,
because I mean they're just playing the Cardinals, like it's
not really like a tough game, and I don't think
people are gonna be like, oh, well should Mac be
in of like Rock Struggles a little bit actually looked
like the perfect game to come back.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
You're right, oh they were waiting for an.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Eat, like a good game to come back.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I give you a soft landing here, Brock, so we
don't have the controversy of the backup quarterback needs to
be starting over here exactly.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
So that's what I think.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
And I just also like there's some Cardinals drama just
with like Jonathan Gannon and everything and just all everybody
paying attention to, like the Kyler Murray drama with him
going on.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
IR and stuff. So I think it's a little interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So that's my number ten good call for you. Number
nine for me with best game on the slate in
Week eleven is the Bears of the Vikings. I'm interested
in this because you got two second year quarterbacks going
at it and in the second matchup this season now
after the Bears blew it. I think that was on
Monday Night Football with the clock malfunctioned by Big Ben Johnson,

(50:48):
who elected to not kick it out of bounds and
therefore the Vikings got to run more of the clock.
He screwed everything up there, but the Bears have won
six of seven. However, I got a feeling the Vikings
are gonna win this.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Game total ownership.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I don't know about that perfect I don't know about
a perfect win either, but I think the Vikings are
gonna bounce back and get a victory again over the Bears.
That is the ninth best matchup to me, Bree, what
do you.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
Got I Cowboys at Raiders just like I just think
like the Cowboys defense versus like the really really struggling
Raiders offense.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
It's gonna be a little interesting.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
I think Cowboys are gonna run all over them. So
I'm sorry, keV, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Not pass what deak?

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Oh my god?

Speaker 7 (51:33):
Okay whatever, run pass. They're just gonna demolish them, Okay,
through them?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
What you're saying?

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Yes and so?

Speaker 7 (51:39):
And then I'm just interested on like who's gonna have
like the most interesting like post game, like you know,
like Shpiel. Is it gonna be Jerry Jones or like
what's his face? Pete Carroll like old white guy talk
like who's gonna have who's gonna have the most memorable.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Like post game quote after this, And.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
I still just think like they're just like paying attention
to the Raiders, and I just don't I don't know,
we're gonna see like.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Some Chip Kelly like drama. They're gonna let him go anytimes.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Not ship. He doesn't deserve this. No one deserves the Raiders.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
So that's my number nine, all right.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Number eight for me for most interesting game this week
Bengals at Steelers, which I have deemed the colonoscopy screening
shootout between Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers. They gave us
the best Thursday night football game we've had in years,
that thirty three to thirty one. Bengals win with Flacco
out Gray Bearding Rogers because he's got dad strength on

(52:35):
his side, and Rogers has like a mystery woman he
claims he married last season, but nobody's met her, like,
not just in his family. That's understandable, since he's like
a strange or whatever. Nobody in his family's met her.
Nobody on the team has met her. This feels like
Bud Bundy hiding a blow up doll and married with children,

(52:57):
like and if it was a blow up doll, I mean,
she wouldn't want the jab either, and that would fit
in well with him, which is fine whatever, everybody's got
a choice. I'm just saying, like, what is going on
with Aaron Rodgers, especially with how bad he just played?
Was his last game against the Chargers?

Speaker 6 (53:13):
It was Sunday night?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, yeah, that was awful.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
It was the worst.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
That was maybe his worst performance ever ever. I'm not
saying something, but I'm still interested because of what happened
last time. What's your number eight?

Speaker 7 (53:24):
He fell to zero to three in primetime this year,
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Why are they getting three prime time games? Is my question?

Speaker 7 (53:30):
I have Chargers and Jags at number eight. It's like
the brother Bull. It's justin Herbert versus his brother. He's
one of the tight ends. I think, did you know that?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Wait? Is that true?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (53:41):
You didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That's that's real. Oh my god, I thought you were
saying like him and Trevor Lawrence have a similar appearance.
At least you know that's mean? What do you mean
it's mean?

Speaker 6 (53:52):
That is defensive to Justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
That is, so he's got acne. I know he's got
Madison Beer on his side, but still.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
I've seen Trevor Lawrence's face versus Justin Herbert's face.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
It's not gonna rank attractive quarterbacks here.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I think we have to. This is a matchup beautiful
versus beauty and the beast, I guess in your mind.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Yeah, like Prince Charming of Trevor Lawrence versus like an
actual attractive guy and Justin Herbert anyways, Yes, And I
think it's a twenty twenty three wild card revenge game
for their Chargers.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
I think they're just gonna I think they're gonna kill
the Jags all right. I'm hoping for that.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
My seventh best matchup Baltimore Cleveland, only because I want
to see if my prediction of the Ravens winning the
division and making the playoffs will end up being correct.
Since Kevin doubted me, so did you probably? But I
made that over a month ago. Did you guys know that?
Have we mentioned that? I laid up my reasoning, some

(54:51):
doubted my brilliance. We're on track, baby, but you can't
lose to the browns lamar I need to be right
about this because I'm definitely not gonna win two on
two off this season against Kevin. I need to be
right about this though. Okay, this is important to me. Ravens,
please get it done on the road. Cleveland still got
Dylan Gabriel out there. I think Shoulder hasn't even made

(55:13):
an appearance. That's my seventh best matchup this week, Bree,
what's yours?

Speaker 7 (55:17):
I have Packers at Giants, and as Jamis Winston is
a former Saint, I will be rooting for the Giants,
which is like, which kind of is rough because I
do have a lot of friends that are like Packers fans,
But I just always have to root for Jenis Winston,
so that's where my heart lies.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
You have fond memories of him throwing interceptions in a
safe uniform.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
He's a good dude, and I just think like former Saints,
like I always rooted for Pierre Thomas. I always rooted
for Jimmy Graham, I always rooted for Malcolm Jenkins, like
anybody who's a former Saint always rooted for them.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
So all right, once the Saint always is sayt here
you go. What's a ranger? Always a Ranger. I'll watched
that special on Netflix.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Green Ranger.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I enjoyed it. What do you mean, Green Ranger.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
I don't know. I felt like that was like a
Green Ranger comment.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I mean, I don't know if I should bring up
what happens to the Green Ranger unfortunately, Jason David Frank
my hero. That'd be too dark. I know it's late,
it ain't that late. Coming up next, we'll get to
our top six best matchups in Week eleven of the
NFL season. It's Evan, It's double A. On FSR.

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So as you hear the music there, we're right back
into it as we rank the best matchups in Week
eleven in the NFL with myself and Breebury. So I'm

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going number six here, Brie, that's what we're on, right,
I'm paying attention. I know what number it is. My
sixth most important matchup would be the Chargers at the Jags,
who you had a little bit lower or higher depending
on how you look at it. After a dip in
the season. The Chargers are back. But this is also,
as you mentioned, the scene of the twenty seven point

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comeback they gave up to Jacksonville in that fateful playoff
game a couple of years ago with Herbert and he's
got demons there and Trevor Lawrence has his own comeback
cursed demons right now after the Texans came back on
Jacksonville last week down nineteen. Who will exercise their de
vins and who will be possessed by them and be

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damned forever to hell, to NFL hell. That's the interest
level for me with this game. That's why I got
at ranked number six here, Brie, what do you got?

Speaker 7 (58:17):
So I actually have Bears at Vikings here just because
I just want to see j if JJ is going
to like bounce back after last week he had two
really really bad picks, like those really long balls and
they were just really rough. And I know, just on
the offensive side, they had those eight fall start penalty
like they was just like a mess, offensively disorganized.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Yeah, and so I just want to see if they're
going to bounce back.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
And I'm also interested just on the Bear side, to
see if Caleb's going to be like consistent. I feel
like they've had the last like two or three games
have been really good. So yeah, I feel like that's
an interesting and how you said that? Yeah, second year
quarterbacks and just want to kind of see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Well, and the Bears they're second in the NFC North
right now. Yeah, they're ahead of the Packers. That's what's
crazy again? What was I I'm an idiot, you dumb ass.

Speaker 7 (59:02):
It still kind of feels like a chop game for
them too. Like if I if like Minnesota kind of
gets there like together, then I don't know of them
the Bears are gonna fall apart, and it's like, m
then everyone's gonna be like okay, like Chicago for real.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I feel like Minnesota's do. They are not played to
their potential for a bit now, and they obviously know
the Bears well and they beat him in Week one
on that Monday night football game. I do think that's
gonna be a really close game. Minnesota's defense is good
enough to corral what Ben Johnson has going there, and
they've been really good on that end. And then Minnesota's

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offense versus the Bears defense, it's given up like twenty
seven points per game. That should get JJ McCarthy better
looks and some ability to go through all his progressions
and not have to worry about getting dumped back there
getting sacked.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
And like established some kind of like offensive rhythm because
they don't have one at all.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
No, they don't, but the Vikings typically are used to that,
all right. Fifth best matchup would be the Bucks at
the Bills. Great game. Did I tell you all about
the Dolphins being the Bills last week? Or did I
tell you all about the Dolphins beating the Bills last week?
That was one of my best predictions. This season. Buffalo

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is two and three their last five games. They need
this one and so do the Bucks, who have lost
two of their last three and have my Panthers breathing
like a panther down their neck for that NFC South title. Now,
they won't catch them because the Panthers are gonna lose
the Falcons. But still the Bucks at least have to

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know there needs to be a sense of urgency. This
is a big game for them, but the same for
the Bills. They haven't looked right for a while, so
this is a great matchup two teams that are desperate
out there. What do you got in number five here, Bree?

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
I have Bengals at Steelers here. They think they called
it the Uncle bole last time.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
No, no, I know you call it the YadA.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
YadA YadA Greening spectacular. That's so bad.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
I also you could also say the ar people you go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, Prostate, you took it a step further there, Brie.
I didn't see that, Kevin.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
I felt like Col's for both genders. I just feel
like Prostate's very like men specific. Yeah, I feel like,
you know, just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
For Men Bowl, the Rogain Bowl. It's a biagraable turn
left and Cough Bowl, the Bluetoe Bowl.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
So I also I think just for Joe Flacco, I
just feel like he's gonna let it fly. All the
news of Joe Burrow possibly coming back within the next
few weeks or so, he's just gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Let it fly. He has nothing left to lose.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
Who knows what if he retires after the season, like,
who knows, So it might.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Be fun they could both retire after this season.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
I don't care about Aaron Rodgers, I gotta say, I'm
mostly all I care about heart let that height out.
Before the season started, when Plank was doing the Friday
Night show, we kind of had this like bet whether
or not who was gonna look better Aaron Rodgers or
the Vikings just as as a whole, just as like
a team.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
And I just I was like, Aaron Rodgers is gonna
look like a mess.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
So it's honestly a miracle in my head that the
Steelers are where they're at right now.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Well, I thought they'd be a lot worse.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
They're reeling. They're reeling, and if they blow the division,
which they're on track to to the Ravens after starting
off four and one, Yeah, they're gonna be taking a
lot of heat, and if they don't have a winning
season for the first time with Mike Tomlin, that's going
to be a huge story. So you may end up
being right or I guess you were both right. Like

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he took the Vikings, I took a biking, I took
the What does that mean you're going team versus quarterback
of who's gonna have the better season?

Speaker 7 (01:02:45):
I'm trying to think of, Like I think there was
because there was always that that rumor around in the
off season whether or no, like Aaron Rodgers was gonna
go to Minnesota, remember that in the off season that
was kind of like an ongoing rumor like debate, and
like him and Koc that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Was just because Brett Farv with the route New York
Jets and then Minnesota, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
And so I think that's kind of how it came up.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
And I was just like, well, Koc is like this
quarterback whisper JJ is gonna look incredible and amazing. And
I just have all this faith in the Vikings. I
have no idea why I have. I have no allegiance
to the NFC North whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, how do you feel about that prediction now?

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Well, I was a little excited for Carson Wentz. I
thought we were gonna see a little bit of a
comeback story where Carson Wentz.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
Was it Carson Wentz or Nichols? No, No, it was
Carson went There.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Carson Wentz.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
Okay, so I was picturing some kind of like comeback, amazing,
feel good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
All right, Carson Wentz was going to save your prediction.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
You could learn a lot from a dummy.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Yeah, that was not That was not my smartest all right,
that's not my smartest move.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
The NFL makes us. The NFL makes us look stupid
every week. It happens all the time. Number four, for me,
most interesting matchup this week is the Monday night football
game between the Cowboys and the Raiders in Vegas. I
don't know why I'm having nostalgia for two teams that
were once great a long time ago, like before I
was born. And for the Raiders, we're talking so long ago.

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Mark Davis was probably a toddler when they were winning
Super Bowls, yet he has the same haircut now as
he probably did back then. They played each other just
thirteen times, ever the Raiders and Cowboys. The Raiders lead
the all time series seven to six. Actually, I know
neither team is making the playoffs, but I got a

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feeling we're gonna get a good Monday night football game
after a couple of stinkers out there. Oh you don't.
You don't believe that? Breathe?

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
The Raiders sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yes, the Raiders suck so but I mean the Dallas
Cowboys defense sucks unless they turn it around with Williams. Now,
with Quinton Williams in what after bringing him in a
week earlier, They're gonna turn into a juggernaut on that end.
I don't think so. No, all right, was number four
for you?

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
I have Bucks at Bills here to bounce back game
for both. If I'm coming off losses for the Bills
after like a really really really rough loss losing to Miami,
I think a ton of pressure and a lot of
like expectations are on the Bills versus the Bucks. The
Bucks are in the worst division, one of the worst
divisions in football.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Who else was in that division?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Bree?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Why would that be the worst division in football? Who
would How bad do you got to be to not
be able to be third in the worst division in football? Instead,
you're dead last, like your Saints. That's not the point.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Yeah, that's how bad it is. But I'm just saying,
so the Bucks is just kind of like they're they're chilling.
This is in the end, it's fine. They're just kind
of hanging out.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
I think the more of the expectations and the eyes
are going to be on the Bills. Sean McDermott was
answering questions whether or not Joe Brady should be like
the OC Brian da Ball got let go, should they
bring him back into Buffalo because of his relationship with
Josh Allen in the past. Okay, so yeah, I think
I I kind of think. I think it's gonna be
really a really close game. I also think it's gonna

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be really high scoring. Even though the Bucks they're trying
to get their offense kind of back at Buka was
back last season.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Lots of injuries.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
Yeah, and I mean Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving aren't
gonna play this week, so it's a little rough. But yeah,
so I think it'll be a good game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
All right. I'm with you there. I'm excited for that one. Also,
this one my third best game. Lions in Philly on
Sunday night football pretty cool of Dan Campbell to take
over play calling duties on offense against the Commanders, but
now he's got approved against a real defense. The Eagles
loaded up at the trade deadline to the point they
may not have to rely on a gimmicky play in

(01:06:38):
the push to win as many games anymore. This game
though far from but I'm excited, especially since I'll miss
a lot of the early games tomorrow because the Clippers play,
So this is one that I'll actually see later tomorrow
night on Sunday Night football. Been waiting no week full?

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So no, what do you got? Number three? B?

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
Actually I have Lions and Eagles?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Really, yeah, I do with your logic? What's your rationale?
Are you just copying me?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
Yes, No, I have reasons, but that's I'll get into
that later.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Reasons and stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
I have reasons and stuff why I have it there specifically,
But in regards to together my other last two games,
which I think that me and you are probably gonna
like link up on our last two nixt stupid, I
think the Eagles are.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
This is kind of just all with the A. J.
Brown drama.

Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
Oh okay, I just think that's gonna be really interesting,
and I think Detroit's gonna take it, so I'm excited
to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I mean, I picked Detroit with the points and two
on two off. Since they're getting two and a half,
I'm so happy for you. Good job, or do you
treating me like somebody talking about their fantasy football team?
Nobody cares about your fantasy football team.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
Out and I just feel like that's good to know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I'm really happy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
I'm just really glad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, that was sincere no, It totally was all right.
My number two favorite game of the week that I
cannot wait to watch would be the Broncos hosting the Chefs.
Nemb has won seven in a row, but they squeak
by in their last two games against the Raiders and
Texans and the Chiefs. They've been on a bye after
losing to the Bills. They're five and four. The Chargers

(01:08:16):
and Broncos are both ahead of them in the division.
They need this one badly and mahomes against that Denver
defenses must see TV. What are you guys? Number two here?

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
I have Seahawks at Rams here, the wrong choice, but
I have a reason. Everyone knows I hate the Rams,
so I refuse to make them my number one matchup
of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
They're only going to be number two. You really stuck
it to them now, very I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
And I'm really excited because I really I'm rooting hard
for Seattle. Rashid Shihed got traded there. I want Seattle
to go all the way now at.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
This point in my life in the season, and you
can do it. You can do it. So like Tony
what's his name with a long blonde here, you can
do it long What does workout? Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
So anyway, So yes, So that's I have Seahawks and
Rams there NFC West battle. It's gonna be interesting. I again,
I'll never root for the Rams. I want nothing good
to happen to the Rams.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
So go Seahawks here, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Thought you were talking water Boy. Number one for me
is this game. This is the best matchup of the
season to this point. I think these could be the
two best teams in the NFC and they both both
reside in the NFC West. It's the Seahawks in La
taking on the Rams. They're both seven and two and
looking elite, playing great football. Both don't just want to

(01:09:39):
win the NFC West, they both want the number one
seed in the NFC. This game moves me. It's number
one for me. If there's one game, then I'm circling
to watch in Week eleven? This is it? What's years Bree?

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Obviously Chiefs of Broncos. They're just all a little flipped,
all little flipped?

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Why is that Chiefs so Broncos?

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
Well, I have an allegiance to Sean Payton like on
the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Still after what do you mean?

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
I guess of course, and I have a personal connection
to the chief. So I just I'm rooting for both
teams there, so I'm really excited for both. I don't
know who I'm actually like rooting rooting for. I'd be
happy whoever comes out in this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You were rooting though, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Rooting for you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
We're all rooting for you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Out dare you? How dare you? Saints beat my Panthers
last week?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Can't happen this week? At least there is your week
eleven matchup rankings for NFL Sunday. It's Fox Football Sunday.
I'm at a Moslin coming up next, we got geek news.
I have some video games, some retro games and gifts
that you should be looking into, so you don't wait
for the last minute to buy your Christmas gifts. These
are stocking stuffers. Most of them you're gonna like them.

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That's coming up next. You're on Double A on FSR.
Adam Ashlyn, Welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday. I'm
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(01:11:31):
got geek news. What's just annow lo Dedman, you're playing
D and D tonight. You want to come case this?

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Let's go, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Were boomy chils that I've been chining online with babes
all day?

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Just keep your power clubs off her boomy chilch that
I've been chying on. You may have figured this out
over the last three months since Kevin and I have
been here on Fox Sports Radio. We like retro video games.
Actually have an NBA JAM Arcade one up cabinet at home.
Recently beat it on the hardest level in NBA Jam

(01:12:07):
Tournament Edition. Pretty proud of that, sadly, but I know
I'm not the only one who's into retro gaming as
a nostalgia and Memberbari prices are at an all time high,
So what about doing a little early Christmas shopping centered
around retro gaming items. Remember the game Oregon Trail on

(01:12:28):
the old Macintosh computer where everyone makes a joke kind
of dying from dysentery. Well, if you ever did die
from dysentery, you'd know it's nothing to joke about. So
our pilgrims and ancestors from the mid eighteen hundreds would
appreciate it if you'd cut the crap, since they couldn't.
But dying from diarrhea leading to extreme dehydration is not funny.

(01:12:49):
It's not okay, it's nothing funny about dying on the toilet.
Isn't that what happened to Elvis? Anyways? As for the
stocking stuffer here. You're not i to be able to
fit an Apple to computer in there. But for twenty
bucks on Amazon you can get an organ Trail card
game that you can play with two to six players,

(01:13:10):
which is pretty cool because the original game was single player.
And if your single like me during the holidays and
still want to play it in its original form, go
to Oregon Trail dot ws slash Games. You can play
the game for free. But the card game has me intrigued.
My favorite part was hunting, like I would load up

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on the elk and the moose and the bison, like
thousands of pounds of meat I would supply for my party,
which eventually would be contaminated causing dysentery. But my party
never starved to death. Dammit. We never had to go
full Donner party. I'll tell you that in Orgon Trail.
What about this? For forty four dollars on Amazon, you

(01:13:54):
can get a game that's a game Boy coffee book table.
A coffee book not like the signelt it's a coffee
book table folds the legs out or anything like that. No,
it's it's got artwork from game Boy, like the full
color artwork unlike the game Boy, which was monochromatic. Remember
the box art. It used to look so cool. It

(01:14:16):
was stunning, it was vibrant, it was beautiful. They got
a coffee table book for that. I mean, who doesn't
want that? Why the music have to cut out? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Felt like Mark was saying it was like a record scratch.
It's forty four dollars on Amazon a coffee table book
with game Boy box art. That's awesome. I actually have
some posters hung in my apartment from certain nes games,
like the box art for Ninja Turtles three, The Manhattan Project,

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and Double Dragon two. So let's say you're not into
the coffee table book and you actually have a hankering
to play some game Boy games, but your old game
Boy screen looks like disintered. You want to upgrade, but
still use your old game Boy cartridges. There's a great
modernized game Boy called the Analog Pocket, which presents them

(01:15:11):
using modern screens and lighting, and they look great. You
won't need the game Boy light anymore to play them. Plus,
the Analog Pocket plays game Boy Color and game Boy
Advance games on it. There's also an adapter actually, and
this is great for me where you can play Sega
game Gear games on it, also Atari Links games, Turbographics,

(01:15:33):
sixteen Games, Neo Geo Pocket Color games, and there's even
a way, I don't know if this is legal or
not to play nes Super Nes Genesis games on there.
I don't know if that's going to cause some illegal
downloading or anything like that. I don't know. I can't
report that part. But the Analog Pocket is not cheap.

(01:15:57):
It's two hundred and twenty bucks. Go to store dot
analog dot co. Another holiday gift for the retro gamer
or someone you're trying to convert, well, that would be
a year long subscription for a Nintendo Switch online. You
just get them like a little card and then they
punch it in using the Nintendo Switch login or whatever,

(01:16:20):
and you get a library to all those great old games.
And it's just twenty bucks for an entire year subscription.
So you can be playing Super Nintendo games, Super Castlevania,
Super Mario Card, Super Mario World, or Genesis games, whichever
you prefer. You don't have to download them. Stop all

(01:16:41):
the download him. I think they just all stream. I
don't have a Nintendo Switch. I just have the original systems,
so it's kind of a problem for me. But if
you do and you want to play retro games or
make someone else play them, that's not a bad idea.
I'm just saying retro is back in a big way,
and so is Oregon, Trail and dysentery. I do know

(01:17:06):
a friend who had a modded Xbox the original and
he had all these emulators on there. Now that may
not be okay, I don't know. I don't know how
that works, copyright stuff, but he had like every game
imaginable up until the year nineteen ninety four. I'm talking
to all the old arcade games, Segah Jenisis Games, Sega

(01:17:26):
Master Games, game Boy, game Boy Color, game Boy Advanced,
what was the other one? Atari twenty six hundred for
Frogger and Asteroids some of the better early games that
still hold up. But the arcade games with like Alien
Versus Predator, And I know there's a new Predator movie
out and I'm actually hearing good things about it, which
is crazy. But people said that about the movie Prey

(01:17:47):
that came directly to Hulu, I think, and it was
only decent to me. But yeah, I'm kind of a
retro gamer. That's where I roll because If I started
playing any of these new games that were online, my
life would end. That's all I would ever do. Counter
Strike was enough for me to get addicted. Madden two
thousand and three had me addicted back in the day.

(01:18:09):
These games nowadays, World of Warcraft, where you could end
up like Cartman, just sitting at your chair strapped to it,
like where you never leave the computer because wow, is
that addicting? That would be me. That was a great
South Park episode. So I don't even let myself get

(01:18:30):
tempted by buying a new system. It's all old school
for me in my trusty NBA Jam Arcade one up
cabinet and those things are like, I know, it sounds
like a lot, but five hundred bucks with what you
get fire NBA Jam one, NBA Hangtime, NBA Tournament Edition,
I might get the Street Fighter one as well. I

(01:18:50):
might collect them all. That could be my issue. Then
I'm a hoarder. So yeah, all this stuff is probably
bad for you in the end. But if you want
to find someone a retro game mean gift for Christmas,
there you go. More double A on FSR comdo Decks.

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Now I'm gonna make the claim about something here and
you may not like it, but tough s, I'm gonna
say this. We are all Jerry Jones to some degree. No,
it does not mean we're all billionaires that own a
football team in a Cadillac with steer horns on the front,
even though we're too old to drive. It does mean, though,

(01:20:17):
especially in the media, we use Jerry Jones just as
much as he uses us, and it's clouded our judgment
for every move the Cowboys make. See my problem is this,
we use Jerry Jones the same way he uses us,
and the media loves to act like they're above it

(01:20:37):
for some reason. But at least I'm gonna be honest
about it with you. We're all guilty of constantly accusing
Jerry Jones of only being an attention seeking merchant. I've
said his super Bowl isn't actually winning the big Game,
but just being the most talked about team in sports.
I think it's true. At e three years of age,

(01:20:58):
Jerry Jones, I've said, doesn't need Biager or blue Chee.
All he needs is a microphone and some TV cameras
to get excited. The Cowboys are his reality show, his
soap opera, And like that common trope of someone being
in a coma, in a soap opera, you could have
been in one for twenty nine years and you would
not have missed the Cowboys winning a super Bowl. They

(01:21:21):
have just five playoff wins total since nineteen ninety six.
But winning is not Jerry's number one priority. There are
things bigger than that. To him, real power is being
the most talked about team, whether you win or you lose.
The Bomb's loss. Jerry isn't competing with other NFL teams.

(01:21:44):
He sees himself battling with the Yankees and the Lakers
his championships. His championship transcends the NFL. He measures success
by how much the cowboys net worth is relative to
the top franch in other sports, and that to him
is winning. The Cowboys are estimated to be worth thirteen

(01:22:07):
billion dollars, the Lakers ten billion on a pretty recent
evaluation thanks to new owner Mark Walter. The Yankees nine
million billion. So while we're looking at the standings, Jerry's
looking at valuations, we are not the same in that way.

(01:22:29):
When he bought the Cowboys in eighty nine, he paid
one hundred and forty million. While y'all are trying to
ten x some dumbass alt coin with someone's pet dog
on it. Jerry won one hundred x the worth of
an NFL team.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
It's math, it's arithmetis true.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
All while they won early in his time there, yes,
but since then he's done it all through controversy and
using the press to create two kinds of people, those
that love the Cowboys and those that love to hate them.
Either way, you're paying attention though, and you have a
strong opinion about them, So how are we any different

(01:23:08):
when it's just about the pub. Any pub is good pub.
That's business. Let's be honest. We all crave the attention
more than ever. You don't have to be working in
sports media to long for clicks. We all have an
x account or a gram or some way to try

(01:23:29):
and keep ourselves relevant. We've all made a post before
that we thought was so good that it might go
viral and make us Internet famous if just the right
amount of people find it or the algorithm caught it.
It's all attention seeking and it's addicting. Jerry Jones found
a way to wield the media as his platform long

(01:23:49):
before anyone had these social media platforms to use. Sports media, though,
is the most guilty of this blatant hypocrisy that they
seem to ignore all the time. I do my best
at least be honest about it. See this whole Micah
Parson's trade saga and the fallout. Ever since once Against
exposed the media's ultimate game, has done the same thing

(01:24:11):
with Jerry Jones. They're two sides of the same coin,
yet one side is acting like they're above it. It's
not Jerry, He's at least open about it. He said
this recently in an interview with Stephen A. Quote. One
of the things that I can be criticized for is
doing everything I can do when not catching passes to
make us relevant. What you do, Stephen A, is a

(01:24:33):
little bit of my philosophy. Controversy, controversy. I'm serious, dead serious, unquote.
If an eighty three year old man says he's dead serious,
you better believe him, because, uh well, he's closer to it,
but he's right. Jerry Jones uses everyone else's platforms ESPN,

(01:24:53):
fand old TV, YouTube, Spotify, whatever, whoever to keep the
Cowboys alive and being discussed constantly. Then the talking heads
in the media use what he says for their own
ratings and attention by constantly leading with the Cowboys like
I am in this hour and we don't have any
shame in talking about a three to five and one team.

(01:25:16):
They got a tie in there that has no shot
of winning the Super Bowl and likely is not even
going to make the playoffs. Then the same people accuse
Jerry Jones of just being intention seeking and he doesn't
care about winning. We don't either. It all works together
in this ecosystem of sports media feeding the machine. He

(01:25:37):
needs them to keep the Cowboys relevant. They need him
to have something to talk about and overanalyze and get
off hot takes with. Why talk about the Seahawks and
how they dominate when we can criticize Jerry's Cowboys and
look down on him like we have the moral high ground?
Come on, it's over, anakin, I have the moral high ground. No,

(01:25:58):
we don't. It's about the ratings and nothing else. Now,
you play a part as a member of the audience.
If you didn't care about them boys, we wouldn't either.
But Jerry Jones has conditioned us to feel something. Whenever
the Cowboys are brought up. They elicit an emotional response
that is powerful. Call Christopher Nolan because he's inception to

(01:26:22):
us or something like that. We've been brainwashed, manipulated. It's
Stockholm syndrome mixed with psyops and gas lighting. Jerry's world
is not limited to at and T Stadium. He's in
our dome, taking up as much space as his Big
Hoss JumboTron does. Do you know what's called that? The
Big Hoss from Bonanza? However, just because Jerry Jones cares

(01:26:50):
more about being seen than being good. Doesn't mean he
can't life alert his way into a winning move on
the field once in a while. It seems so in
vogue to take shots at Jerry for everything they do,
because he's such a character and a carnival barker that
when they actually do something smart the Cowboys, people miss

(01:27:11):
it as the boy who cries wolf for them, boys
who cry how about the Cowboys far too often and
we stop believing them. But they might have actually done
something right here. Remember my argument for getting rid of
Micah was just I can't justify paying him that much
for this Cowboys team because he won't put them over

(01:27:32):
the top. He was there last year, the defense was
still bad. But with their latest move, they get Quinn
Williams in there, who will be available against the Raiders
on Monday Night. The national media looks a little lost,
little lost in Jerry sauce, which would be I guess
oil in this case, which is how it all started
for him. But the national media keeps wondering why the
Cowboys are making a trade that's not going to save

(01:27:54):
this season. That's okay, Quinn Williams, He's not a rental.
He's around for at least two more years after this.
I could see why they would want to keep the
dak era going. He's been great this season, So this
isn't some overreaction move to shut up the haters by

(01:28:15):
trading Michaeh Parsons and getting Quentin Williams. At the end
of this, as we sort through the wreckage of what
the Micah Parsons move was, that actually makes a lot
of sense because now you have a cornerstone piece to
build around and a direction with how to fill out
the rest of your ten guys, starting on defense. It's
pretty low risk. You're giving up the better of your

(01:28:37):
two first round picks in twenty twenty seven, that's fine,
you still have three in the next two years. This
isn't some overcompensating move because they traded away Micah Parsons.
This guy's getting paid twenty million less per season. Like,
I don't understand people in the media criticizing Jerry Jones
for this move because of past failures. Just look at
each case by case basis. In this case, I heard

(01:29:01):
Jason McIntyre say, smart team stan pat bad teams overreact
and make moves of the deadline. Well, I don't know.
The Eagles didn't stand pat and they're the world champs.
Sure seems like the move for Jalen Phillips worked out
on Monday night as they beat the Packers and Michael Parsons,
by the way, who many have thought has been a
little bit underwhelming so far with the Packers, Quinn Williams

(01:29:24):
is making less than half of what he does. The Packers, meanwhile,
have a high bar too clear. In order to win
the Micaeh Parsons trade, they have to win the Super Bowl.
If they do that, Mike has a couple of sacks,
the Cowboys have lost the trade. But if the Cowboys
end up holding onto George Pickens because of this, in
have Quinn Williams and an extra first round pick for

(01:29:46):
trading Michael Parsons. I think Jerry Jones is gonna be
the one looking like he got out at the right
time for making a long term investment in a pass
rushing specialist. We shall see, but the Cowboys being good
is mostly just Jerry side mission. But he may have
got it right this time with a move that could

(01:30:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Let's talk about the Lakers getting another victory tonight, Luca
Donson shop's forty one points they win in Milwaukee. Are
they moving up in your leaderboard or your power rankings
from where you had them before the season.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
So, I mean, I pretty much would say they're about
where I expected them to be. I think they had
a really good nights at night, in particular, going up
thirty against Milwaukee on the second night at back back
end of a road ship roadchip that I started that

(01:33:20):
roadchip in Atlanta, and they did not play well in
Atlanta at all, like they were Yeah, that was why
their worst game this season right there. They responded for
the most part in Charlotte, and then they were terrible
in Oklahoma City. Like in a rest advantage, like Oklahoma

(01:33:40):
City is miles ahead of everybody else in the league
right now, but a good team wins more of their
road games than they lose them, and the Lakers went
three and two on this roadship. They're ten and four
in the season. They've been shorthanded for I mean, if
you count Lebron all of their games, but even not

(01:34:00):
counting Lebron, like Alton Resa's missed games. He missed the
beginning of the trip with Roy Sureness, and then Luca's
missed a few games. And I do lucas as many
forty point games already this season as he had all
of last season Mavericks vand Leakers combined. And so the
Lakers are They're they're winning games with their offense. But

(01:34:22):
I'm telling you this Saturday night against in Milwaukee was
quite encouraging from a defensive standpoint. I think Deander Ayton's
played extremely well. Ayton's got almost as many twenty ten
games this season as he had all of last season.
And we're not even at Thanksgiving yet, So guys authentsively,
I think are playing well. Outside of some shooting woes.
The team does not shoot the three well, but I

(01:34:46):
just know that they're incomplete right now. The final assessment
with the Lakers not the final, but the big next
assessment is obviously going to come with Lebron games return
and how that affects everybody from Luca going down to
who keeps their rotation spots through sign stocks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
And speaking to that. What do you make of the chatter?
Maybe it's just hate, but people saying he's going to
make them worse, He's going to upend things when Lebron
James returns.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
I don't think it's completely unsounded. Like I'm probably going
to write about it shortly. Actually, like Lebron was a
player who I think Lebron the attention Lebron gets helps
those other guys as far as the mileage on them,
specifically Luca and Austin. But Lebron on the floor is
going to It's going to have some advantages, but it's

(01:35:35):
also going to have some disadvantages as well, Like you're
throwing a forty year old out there who hasn't played
an NBA game in six months. Like, yeah, I don't
anticipate that it's going to be completely smooth for everybody,
so there will be complications, but I would qualify that
as a good problem to have what Lebron's on their back.

(01:35:56):
So I mean Lebron, Austin, Luca on the floor together
a defensive disaster last year, both in the regular season
and the playoffs. I don't expect them to be great
defensively all of a sudden with Lebron on the floor,
of those two dudes, at least a start and maybe
all season, we just got to see offensively again. I

(01:36:17):
think it's going to help a lot of things. But
Luca's gonna be the guy that the team plays, or
we'll see how Lebron adjusted at and then Austin reason
is going to lose touches. Austin's had a great start
to the season the under eight and again and touches
have been really good. I just mentioned the twenty ten parts.
I mean Lebron doesn't take shouldn't take the rebounds away.

(01:36:39):
No one cares about that. That's a team thing. But
we'll see how engaged DeAndre Eighton is when he gets
even fewer touches an he already gets. So you know,
it's a little bit of both, Like you want Lebron
James on your team and then the lineup and to
figure that out. But for anyone who understands that, like

(01:37:00):
there will be complications with a player of that magazine
coming back, it's not unfounded.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
NBA expert Law Murray from the Athletic joins me here
on Fox Sports Radio. So a Law you mentioned Luka
Doncis last season. He already has more forty point games
this season than the two teams he played for combined
last year. So we're going back to the Dallas Mavericks here,
and I want to ask you about Nico Harrison being
let go this past week. Were you surprised that it happened?

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Why do you think the timing led to it happening?
Was it just a Mavericks slow start? Was there more
to it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Well, the Mavericks were not good when I don't know
a lot of people thought they'd be good. I really
do not know. Like there are some teams that obviously
my assessment of them is not going to your selected
accurately right now. But I wasn't in High and Dallas
at all going into this season, and they've pretty much

(01:37:51):
been that kind of team so far. But it's more
than that. It's the fact that trading Luca was already
a fireable offense on site, Like, you don't trade a
dude like Luca Pierio. I don't care what the package is.
The package was unacceptable. They got an older player back,
a guy who's more injury prone, a guy who is

(01:38:13):
not a not nearly the same kind of offensive hub.
You can say defense matters, it's like yeah, but like,
who cares about your defense if you can't score and
the Mavericks are actually last time I checked the top
five defense, they can't score it. Of course you're a
top five defense. You can't score enough points for that
for teams to be like, we need more points against

(01:38:35):
your need, right, But the biggest thing is the relationships.
Like any anything that breaks down in professional sports, this
is a business, and a business isn't just wins and losses.
It's how do you relate to every one of your stakeholders,
from the ownership on down to the people who have
to fill your ring. And the arena was toxic, and

(01:38:57):
the guy that has to be most responsible or that
part of things lost trust, and the guy who was
running his team. There was a lot of miscalculations again,
even getting to the point where you think trading Luka
Doncic is the right move, especially coming off of the
season that Dallas are coming off of in twenty twenty four,
that was unacceptable on site. And the only thing that

(01:39:18):
could have saved Nico Harrison's job is Cooper flag being
so good right away that they were winning games and
ad buys Miko Harrison time. Nico Harrison absolutely was counting
on that. Instead, they mismanaged Cooper Flagg and trying to
make him a point guard. And again I go right
back to your offense. You know, top five defense, but

(01:39:39):
your dead last and offense. Would you be dead last
in offense with Luka Dounshell on any team? Absolutely not?
Would you? And so that's and that's that. Like, like
Dirt Niviki said, this move probably was later. It happened
later than a lot of people thought it might have,
might have or should have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
What do you think happens to Nik Harrison? Does he
ever get back into an NBA front office, even as
just a lower level.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
I mean, if it's lower level, absolutely that's a possibility.
But I'm not sure what Nico Harrison wants to do.
It's not like he was an NBA lifer or anything
before this. You know, he was working at ninety someone
in the bed with Steph Courage. You know what I'm saying.
New Sneaker free agents step Turney. So Nico Harrison is
going to be relevant. He can do whatever he wants.
I mean, and it's not like Nico was a terrible GM.

(01:40:29):
He just made one of the worst moves ever in
professional sports, like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Know, aside from that, Aside from that, not terrible, no, like,
but for real.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
It's like, no, the gap washing four as what I'm saying,
Eco Harrison twenty twenty fourth trade deadline was really great.
It was highly impactful, and he just cannibalized all of
that by what he did the very next February. You know, So,
Nico Harrison, I'm sure could be of value to another team.

(01:41:01):
You do not. I don't see Nco Harrison ever being
in charge of another team unless it's one of those
messed up situations where Miko Harrison goes and he's in
this lower level position and some team has a crisis
in the middle of their season and all of a
sudden it's like, well, Meeker Harrison is the most qualified
person to take over the position. All of a sudden,

(01:41:22):
it's like, you need to be in a market that
can handle that kind of backlash, because that's the thing.
It's like every again, everything that happens in the NBA
comes down to do the fans strust you do? The
fans want to invest in you and believe in what
your vision is. And I don't think a team can
hire Niko Harrison to run their front office again, be
the face of their front office after I mean, Nico

(01:41:44):
Harrison has a scarlet letter on him. You trade at Luka.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Doncic, Nikola jokicch one again tonight with the Denver Nuggets
one twenty three to one twelve in Minnesota. But on
Wednesday he dropped fifty five on the Clippers and into
a dome and law to me like light work, like
it was easy for him and a lot of those
were tough jumpers. Is he still the best player in
the game in your mind?

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
You can make the case. I mean, I still will
put that on Shay Giess Alexander right now that Shae's
the MVP, the Finals MVP, the scoring champion, and look
at what his team is doing to start the year.
You know that, dude, Shaye, he can't He ain't break
a sweat yet this year, I swear to guy. You know,

(01:42:29):
maybe week one when he was playing in overtime games,
but now shade drops thirty points without even eating to
play thirty minutes and so it's close, man, Like, it's
obviously going to be eye of the Beholder stuff. And
Nicole's got three m MVP awards. He's got a Finals
MVP as well. Nicola's Nicole is amazing. I mean, what

(01:42:52):
was so impressive about Nicola is that dude played in
Sacramento the night before he dropped the double nickel in
LA and into it. Don't you know, Nicola knew he
had never won a fifty point game in his career before.
No one had to bring it up post, no one
had to bring it up. He brought it up first
and not just followed up. You know, I knew, I knew,
but it's like he's the one doing it, and he

(01:43:14):
knew while he was scoring. So I just feel like
the most impressive thing about the what Nicola is doing
is that this is the best defense the Nuggets have
ever had. They are defending at a level that makes
you think they can win a championship because the only
defense better in the league right now is that of
the Thunder. So it's one thing to have Nicoleon and

(01:43:36):
Shay is two of the best players in the game
it's not the two best, but they're the fact that
they're also have the best two defenses, Man, it makes
you think that it's a collision course just those two teams.
I didn't believe in the Denver defense going into this season,
but the more we get into the start of the year,
the more that sample size increases, the more you start

(01:43:59):
to believe it. And some of it is Jedi, some
of it is teams that missed their three pointers more
against and Nuggets than almost any team in the league.
Those are things that tend to turn around over the
course of the year. I don't know if teams are
going to shoot thirty percent from three against the Nuggets
all year, just like I don't know if teams are
going to shoot forty percent from three against the Clippers

(01:44:20):
all year. But besides that, it's like, no, the Nuggets.
They have an idea how they want to defend, and
they're executing it extremely well.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
What do you make of the conversation you hear Kendrick
Perkins say Nikola Jokic is basically putting Hakeem Highlights to shame.
How do you kind of reconcile the new school versus
the old school? The game of thirty years ago versus
guys playing that position today.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I mean, it's a different game. I grew up on
the nineties, not the early nineties, but the Jordan retirement nineties.
You know. So the centers were everything in the NBA
in the nineties, except that they weren't winning championships that
you know, not when Jordan was playing. So that's the
most interesting thing. It's like, the nineties was an incredible time.

(01:45:10):
A Keem was my favorite center. He was my first
favorite player, My very first favorite player was a Keem Olajuwan.
Like I have my backhit of basket doing dream ships,
thinking that if I could be seven foot tall, like
I'd be a problem, and I would be a problem
about set tall. Fortunately, I'm only six feet tall, six
sixth wings man, but only sixty tall. So like the

(01:45:30):
thing with Nicola, compared to it, like a Keen is
one of the best centers to compare yourself to. You
know what I'm saying, because Hakeeen has relevance today. Hakeem's
defense is his agility is shop blocking and then offensively,
how he'd be able to face the basket the post
moves Like guys still go to Hakeem Olijuan down in Houston.

(01:45:52):
Pay a bunch of money so he can give them
a few pointers about how to use your pivot foot. Like,
but I'll tell you one thing, Nicole the passes the
ball better than the team ever. Did you know? He
shoots it better than the team ever did. And if
Nicola had those talents in the nineties, it would be relevant.
And Nicola is huge. You're not going to overpower nicolea

(01:46:13):
okids just because it's like not like Nicola doesn't have
great athleticism. He has great everything else. And that's the difference.
You know, for a lot of these guys. There's a
lot of guys playing the day that the physicality or
the size it would be a bit of a challenge.
In the nineties. The nineties was bigguess the most brutal
era of basketball. It was disgusting. If you watch some

(01:46:34):
of those games, you will absolutely understand why teams play
as fast as they do today. Like the nineties minus
Jordan almost like, yeah, it was rough, Yeah it was rough.
Not even the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Lakers could play games versus highlights very different exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Like not even the Lakers could say NBC, NBC couldn't
wait to get out of the NBA business during the
Lakers three PA, that's what a lot of people be sleeping.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Two was there last year?

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Yeah, and it's like nah, like people didn't like the
style of basketball in the early two thousands, Like Jordan
was the only guy who saved it, and so like
when you really look at it, a King was this
era because of his agility, because of how talented he
was as a ball handling center, as a guy with footwork.
He could do it on both ends. Nicola though he

(01:47:23):
would fit the nineties really well because that dude was
huge and post you up, shoot it, pass it. He's
skilled with the side of the match, and that's what
people have to realize. In the nineties, it was about
how much pounding can you take? In this era, it's
how can you survive in space? And how does your
skill level translate into space. Some guys can play in

(01:47:46):
both eras, but not everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
There was a pause in there somewhere, but I resisted.
It's La Murray of the Athletic joining me here on
Fox Sports Radio Low. We talked about the Lakers. You
cover them, but you've been covering the Clippers for a while.
In terms of what's relevant to the national audience. People
have already started to talk about could they end up
having a selloff. They're four and eight. They did win
in double overtime against the MAVs the other night, James

(01:48:11):
Harden dropped a forty one point triple double. But if
things keep trending downward for them, is that reasonable or
realistic for the Clippers to actually head in a different
direction by trading some of their older players.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I got it, man, it's a Clippers Like they don't
do this, they never do. And the thing is they're
always going to count on being good at some point,
Like that's what they do. They always do that. So
everyone will say that about the Clippers because they just
are used to seeing other teams operate a certain way,

(01:48:48):
and the Clippers aren't other teams. Like that's just what
it is. Every time rookies top or every time a
coach plays twelve players for some reason, or every time
an organization decides they're too dysfunctional to continue on with
the relationships again, like Willie Green getting fired in New Orleans,

(01:49:09):
Nico Harrison getting fired in Dallas. It's like, what if
we could do And it's only because the Clippers are
good enough to not be good enough, you know, that's
what it has been. They won fourteen years in a row.
As far as the regular season, it's amounted to one
conference finals appearance and zero NBA Finals appearances for a
franchise that has never won a championship. Clippers fans love

(01:49:33):
what they love, an excuse to just get off the
ride and not care and to ask their team to
have some new guys and new reasons to get them
back to Karen. You know, like there will be people
who get mad at the Clippers if they wind up
turning it around like they've always done and get over
five hundred and get through it, like, people will be mad.

(01:49:56):
So now the Clippers don't have their first round pick,
even a swap situation, they don't have their first round
pick next week, so right, and so there's whatever they do.
Like you have to think about, who are you trading
your best players? What franchises are giving up premium picks

(01:50:17):
for these guys. You have to think you can't even
trade those guys for picking their twenty twenty six draft, Like,
no teams trading that pick. You're going to have to
bet and guess which franchise that is good now and
can use those players now, might suck in the year
or two so that you can use their pick and

(01:50:38):
maybe it's higher in two years than it would be. Now.
That's a calculus that you have to consider. And not
all of those teams want to upend there whatever is
going for them so that they can integrate to James
Harden or Kawhi Leonard or even in a it's a
zoo bots, you know. And if this zoobox is the
one guy who's in his twenties and signed for multiple

(01:50:58):
years at through this one that like is on the
entire Clippers roster, why would the Clippers want to trade
that dude? He's the one guy on a long term
value talks, right Garret jon Jeron is having a good year,
but after this year, he's got one year left on
his deal, you know. So that's the thing. The Clippers
don't have guys that teams should one either now or

(01:51:22):
the remainder of their contracts. That complicates straight value. Like
James Harden has a mutual out in his contracts this
offseason coming up. Who are you getting what are you
getting back for that deal? Now? So that's the thing.
The Clippers, they want to win because of their owner,
they kind of have to win. There's no incentive for

(01:51:42):
them to lose. And they have all this built in
equity amongst each other to suggest that they're going to
figure it out come hell or high water. So I
don't even waste my time thinking about, oh what if
the Clippers, Well, they're not. They they don't have anything
to blow up.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
For last one, where you're here a law. Your colleagues
at the Athletic, including Sam Amic, earlier broke a story
titled NBA seeks cell phones from multiple teams including Lakers
and gambling investigation. Is this just the tip of the iceberg?
Are we just getting started with this stuff? How long
is everything going to play out here?

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
It's indefinite because you can't relax on a thing like this,
Like there's going to be ongoing investigations both inside the
NBA and now it's at a federal level. So as
long as you have something like that, you're going to
just continue to have threads and trails like it's you've

(01:52:36):
opened up Pandora's.

Speaker 8 (01:52:37):
Box and so, uh, there's not a whole lot you
can say about it except to say like it's going
to continue until some of these investigations close and there's
nothing new that pops up between now and the time
that the biggest investigations include.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Do you think we're just getting started with the stuff
now they're starting to look into it like this, this
could really be something even bigger and more massive than
what it's already been.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
I mean, possibly, it depends on how many names get
wrapped up, how many threads of information and intelligence that
that winds up becoming public, and how does the public
react to it, you know, I mean the bottom line

(01:53:28):
is you can't stop betting, you know, the relationships, the
money is too big, and all these sports league it's
not just the NBA. You see what's happening in the NCAA.
You know, they're they're like not letting college kids play
because of bets and things that have come out that

(01:53:50):
are scandalous. So the more names and or the bigger
names that wind up being attached to this is just
gonna add to what is a growing story.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Best of the best, to my humble opinion or not
so humble opinion, that would be La Murray of the
Athletic follow him out Low Murray the NU That's where
he finds him on X read his latest The Clippers
need to decide who they are after the Bradley Beal nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Lol, thanks for doing this in the late night hour
here on Fox Sports Radio with me my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
There he goes La Murray of the Athletic Coming up
next here on FSR, it's Brebrey. In Stranger than Fiction,
I'm at am Osland. This is double A on Fox
Sports Radio. Welcome back ins Fox Football Sunday. I'm at
a Mosland Coming up next hour. I have a scathing

(01:54:50):
accusation on Nico Harrison, who's been through enough this week
after he was let go as the DM of the
Dallas Mavericks. But I'm not gonna let it go. Trading
Luca Doncis. I got a story on that. But first,
a little stranger than fiction.

Speaker 5 (01:55:05):
Heres a fast food customer defending vertices called nine one
one after her McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Strange.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
You can't give a drunk man riding a horse at
EWI and he goes Unlike cards, boards don't have motors,
they have in mind in their.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Own strange things.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Twenty four year old man now Jesus of throwing an
alligator through a drive through window. Strange fix. All right, Bree, Bree,
what do we got?

Speaker 7 (01:55:35):
Okay, So we've been friends almost like ten years or so, right,
and so every time we've ordered food or something, I'm
usually the one that gets like haul apenos or like,
I like the spicier things mostly you think you do.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Oh, you think you're tough talking when you get those gelafanos,
Like I don't like calipeno poppers. Are you excusing me
of that right now?

Speaker 7 (01:55:57):
No, I'm just saying I just a guy like more
spicy food than you, am I Right? Like, I mean
you like hot chicken every now and then?

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Right? Is it because I'm white?

Speaker 6 (01:56:06):
Yeah, I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 7 (01:56:07):
So anyways, anyways, so there is a term of researchers
in China. They have claimed to create an artificial tongue
that can quickly detect spice levels in their food. So
it detects the spice and kind of in it like
relays a current of how spicy something is.

Speaker 6 (01:56:29):
Yes, through what It's a.

Speaker 7 (01:56:31):
Soft, transparent gel that consumers place on their tongues and
it senses like the casin of how spicy something is
and kind of relays a message like oh this is
going to be really spicy, or it's kind of like
a warning to your brain.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Yes, but how does it get the message across? Is
it like a digital thing? Is like a breathalyzer for
spicy things? What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:56:55):
So it's the artificial So there's these like the electrochemical
gel material that senses the spice from the when the
casin binds to a capasation, which is the other kind
of molecule, and then it just tonight, it transmits an
electric current basically, Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Okay, but how do I know how spicy it's going
to be?

Speaker 6 (01:57:24):
I'm saying, well, it kind of it's just like you it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
I get a thought in my head, oh this is
going to be really spicy.

Speaker 7 (01:57:30):
It supposedly it kind of just like it does like
a little jolt of like, oh this is going to
be really spicy.

Speaker 6 (01:57:37):
Okay, jult electrical current.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
So I'm getting shocked as further punishment for eating something spicy.

Speaker 7 (01:57:48):
It's so I don't know, I don't know what the
what the point of the matter is. It's just like
some kind of perception kind of experiment that's happening to
kind of sense whether or not how spicy something is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Wouldn't the perception just be it tastes spicy? Like, why
do I need this on top of it to tell
me I know if something spicy or not?

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:58:10):
I know, but I guess it's just like I have taste.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
But like, what are we doing well before.

Speaker 6 (01:58:15):
You actually ingest it?

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
I guess right, So wait a second, it's on my tongue.

Speaker 6 (01:58:20):
It's on your tongue.

Speaker 7 (01:58:21):
So ten seconds after the spice is playstory on the
gel on your tongue, there's something the current will either
like jolt or not jolt, and then it'll decrease.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Jolt or not jolt. So if I get a jolt,
I spit the thing out of my mouth immediately. Then
this is gonna be bad.

Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
I don't want to it won't be Yeah, you don't
want to deal with it?

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
How do we know? Like the jolt isn't worse than
the actual spiciness. That's my concern here. I don't know
if I want the jolt. I've seen the hangover or
you get a taser on your tongue or whatever. I've
watched enough Jackass episodes. I don't want to, Joel, I
would love to just know, like what, what's the purpose
is of this? Like is this like the story or

(01:59:05):
the contraption here to.

Speaker 6 (01:59:09):
Kind of just figure out. I don't know why.

Speaker 7 (01:59:11):
People usually, you know, if they have any kind of
like sensory issues what I feel like everything is kind
of affected, So I don't know what this would actually do.

Speaker 6 (01:59:19):
I just thought it was an interesting story, Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
It's strange. I just don't understand it, but it is qualifying.
I suppose it's stranger than fiction.

Speaker 6 (01:59:27):
It is strange. Just because you don't understand it doesn't
mean it's not strange.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
It feels geek news esque. Is well here, but well
done by you, Bree. Now I know when things are
spicy or not or something whatever. We got more double
A on FSR.

Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
Next, do're listening to Fox Sports?

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
It is Fox Football Sunday. I'm out of May get
to meet at fallow Adam A on X coming up.
I gotta talk about why I have sympathy for Brian
Dable getting five this week with the New York Giants.
Why would I feel bad for him? Maybe because he
was in a no win situation. I'll tell you about that.

(02:00:09):
But I guess it's a theme this hour of talking
about people who were fired, because now I'm talking about
somebody who I have no sympathy for or empathy. Condolence
is nothing, Nico Harrison, You ever hear of the philosophy kiss.

Speaker 8 (02:00:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
It's It's an acronym for keep it simple, stupid. It's
a way to keep people who think of themselves as
deep thinkers, people who think outside the box, well, sometimes
they tend to outsmart themselves. Sometimes we have a tendency
to zig when others zag. We try to a little

(02:00:54):
too hard, to avoid the herd mentality that when something
is so plain and obvious to others, we miss it
because we're too caught up in trying to stand out
as the main character in a story that we shouldn't
even be in. That's what happened with Nico Harrison and
the Luka Doncic trade nine months ago, eventually leading to
his firing this past week. All Nico Harrison had to

(02:01:17):
do was nothing, and he would still be the GM
of the Dallas Mavericks. But then how would he get
credit if it didn't look like he had his fingerprints
all over the construction of the team. It's a player
in superstar driven league, after all, So where does a
president of basketball operations fit in? Where does a GM

(02:01:41):
fit in? Especially when you weren't the architect and the
one to draft the superstar in question here in Luka Doncic. No,
that would be Nico's predecessor, Donnie Nelson, who landed him
on draft Day in a trade for Trey Young and
an extra first. So if Luca is the main reason
you win a championship, Donnie Nelson, who's considered one of

(02:02:04):
the greatest international scouts in eyes for overseas talent, he
would be the one that is credited with the greater
responsibility of that Larry O'Brien trophy than Nico Harrison ever
would be. I believe Nico understood this. Nico Harrison as
an ego and pride comes before the fall, and after

(02:02:27):
they fell in the twenty twenty four finals a mere
five hundred and sixteen days ago, he started to convince
himself that there was a way to get all the
credit and look like the genius that he believes himself
to be by trading Luka Doncic. This is my theory

(02:02:48):
on how you end up destroying a franchise from the inside,
and this will be Nico Harrison's legacy. He was, after all,
a larger slice of that credit pie that gets divvied
out after a team wins. And he thought so much
of his basketball prowess and knowledge of the game that
he could see what no one else could, that Luka
Doncich actually had a ceiling that was below winning a championship,

(02:03:12):
that he had fatal flaws that would keep you from
winning at the highest level, that taking the Boston Celtics
to five games in the twenty twenty four finals was
as far as he'd get them, because, after all, Luca
isn't known as a defender and defense wins championships. Never
Mind that those Dallas Mavericks in twenty twenty four, after

(02:03:34):
Nico Harrison actually made a smart move by trading for PJ.
Washington and Daniel Gafford, well, they had the best defense
in the league the last fifteen games of the regular
season heading into the playoffs, and that helped carry them
to their runs of the finals, all while having Luka
Doncic and Kyrie Irving still in the starting lineup, two

(02:03:55):
players not known for defense. Never Mind that the Boston
Celtics o only averaged one hundred and one point six
points per game in the finals against them, they only
shot forty three percent from the field, just thirty three
percent from three. Building a good enough defense with Luka
doncij on the team was the problem, Nico. No, all

(02:04:16):
the numbers will tell you that was a lie.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
That's a bunch of crap. No.

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
Actually, their offense failed them with not leaning into more
of the analytics where the Celtics were taking fifty threes
per game in that series, and meanwhile, yes, Luka doncich
averaged twenty nine per game, But Kyrie had a bad
series and a handful of role players weren't good enough.
That was more of the reason they win the championship

(02:04:42):
over a great Celtics team. That series was in no
way an indictment on Luka Doncic or Canary in the
coal mine sign that he can't win it and is
somehow peaked at the age of twenty four. But this
is what Niko Harrison used to build his case for
trading him Publicly, he told you defense wins championships, as

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if the Mavericks didn't have one of the best and
actually lose in the finals because their offense failed them
at times more than anything else. Players outside of Luka
Doncic underperformed on the biggest stage, but Nico didn't care
about that reality of what actually happened. He was too
busy constructing his own. He focused on Luka carrying more

(02:05:26):
weight and piling up lower body injuries even while carrying
the Dallas Mavericks to being just three games away from
winning a championship. Nico worked with Kobe and other players
who subscribed to the Mama mentality at Nike, and he
forged some close relationships there. Nico deluded himself into thinking

(02:05:46):
there was only one way to train, one way to
conduct yourself as a professional, and one way to win.
Never mind the fact Niko Jokich has just won a
championship in twenty twenty three and also lived day let's say,
a less strict European lifestyle like Luca. But it wasn't
just Luca's weight and work ethic differences. Remember, Nico wants

(02:06:10):
full credit on this group project. He wanted his stamp
all over any team that won. His hubris and likely
resentment for Luca being as great as he was without
having to work as hard as others probably consume Nico.
Nico Harrison thought it was his trades for Daniel Gafford

(02:06:30):
and PJ. Washington that got them to the finals more
than Luka Doncish, and he was tired of not being
seen as the main character but just the name without
a face and empty suit. Did you even know what
Nico Harrison looked like before the Luca don just trade.
I don't recall him ever being front and center or
getting a lot of face time on their journey through

(02:06:51):
the twenty twenty four playoffs. This could have made Nico
jealous of the attention Luca got when he was the
one who made the move to patch up the holes
on the defensive end by making them a much more
complete team and a true contender, least in his mind.
But after his moves were there, he wasn't getting more attention.

(02:07:16):
Nico might have grown bitter. The disease of me set in,
and by the time Luca came into camp at had
reported two hundred and seventy pounds, leading to more cankel injuries.
In September of twenty twenty four, Nico knew something had
to be done, so he called up his old buddy

(02:07:38):
Rob Polenka and completed the most shocking and disastrous trade
in the history of sports. You dumbass. What happened with
herschel Walker wasn't close to this. We didn't know the
Cowboys won the trade till years later. You knew Luca
being traded to the Lakers was a mistake within the
first second. You saw the return as long as you

(02:08:01):
weren't you know, dumb ass, Kendrick Perkins, You dumb ass
who actually tweeted out that Dallas won the trade, either
for engagement or because, like Nico, desperately wanted to look
like the smartest person in the room. You knew trading
Luca for one first Max Christi and an injury plague
star at a less premium position in Anthony Davis, who

(02:08:21):
was six years older was a bad idea, Nico Harrison.
He's the meme of that one person pointing at a
crowd of people yelling at him, and he's the one
person going, yes, you are all wrong?

Speaker 3 (02:08:36):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
I know what everyone else doesn't. The level of arrogance
it takes to make a move like this and believe
you know something no one else in the world understands
is laughable. Even if you didn't want to commit to
paying Luca three hundred and fifty million with the Supermax,
you still get more than what that return was. That
Nico was able to get Dallas. But here's the thing.

(02:09:01):
Nico loved Defense and Anthony Davis. He loved him, He
worked with him at Nike, and that was enough, apparently,
when he probably could have gotten Austin Reeves or at
least another first out of the Lakers if he actually
played this correctly, if he had put Luca on the
open market, I mean, he could have driven up the
price by pitting teams against one another. The trade was

(02:09:23):
so ludicrous it had people saying the NBA wants the
Mavericks fans to revolt so they can justify moving them
to Vegas. But after they got the number one pick
in the draft, I guess that theory didn't work. Then
the conspiracy theorist shifted to, well, they told Nico, if
he gave the Lakers a young franchise player to build

(02:09:43):
around in the LA market, which is good for the NBA,
they'd rig the draft for him. Yeah, go look at
how the NBA draft is done. Let me know how
you rig that. None of this stuff is true, Keep
it simple, stupid. It's as simple as the simple tin
that Nico Harrison is, who probably suffers from the Dunning

(02:10:06):
Krueger effect. He wanted more credit, That's what this is about.
He didn't like Luca's work ethic, and he really liked
Anthony Davis. That's it. It's one guy who had the
ownership's ear because the strong moves he did make in
twenty twenty four to help get them on that run
to the finals. Well, they signed off on this too
because they trusted Nico, not because they're gonna move the team.

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Nico said, time will tell if he was right. Well,
times up took nine months. Shouldn't have even taken that
long nine months in early losing streak, the outrage by
fans becoming so deafening that ownership could no longer ignore
the irate Dallas Maverick fans any longer. Nico died on

(02:10:53):
that hill that he created like he's a damn fool.
And forget Steve Bartman having to go into hiding. Nico
Harrison is the one that might need witness protection the
rest of his life because he affected so many lives
of proud Dallas Mavericks fans that he embarrassed with this decision.
His galaxy brain should put him in a galaxy far

(02:11:15):
far away. Is there a Marcellus Wallace of Dallas? Is
it Jr? From the show Dallas? Can he tell Nico
you lost all your Dallas privileges?

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Is he gonna have to fake his own death? Like
Christian Bale at the end of Dark Knight Rises when
you see him at a cafe in Europe give a
knowing nod to Michael Caine at the very end of
the movie. And Michael Kin in this case would be
Rob Polinka, Nico, Christian Bale. Is that what we're headache towards?

(02:11:55):
Because Rob and Lakers fans, they're the only ones who
are grateful for the choice that he made to torpedo
his own franchise and change the landscape of the NBA.
Luca could have tore his knee and never played in
the NBA again immediately after the trade, and I still
would say it was a stupid move because you could

(02:12:17):
have gotten more at the time you execute the trade.
Dallas might end up getting more back for Anthony Davis
than Nico did for Luka Dancic. And what if they
don't get Cooper Flag in the draft, how much worse
would this be looked at?

Speaker 3 (02:12:33):
Then?

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
That was pure luck. But Nico said it was his vision.
You just gotta wait. It's all coming together. He's got vision.
You don't, I promise you Right now, Nico is muttering
under his breath every day that if it just wasn't

(02:12:54):
for the injuries, they would have seen my genius. Who
was the injury? Uh hey, Nico, Anthony Davis getting injured
was completely predictable. That's part of why you don't do
the trade. Get you know why they had to fire you,

(02:13:17):
you know, because they were afraid of what you do next.
You started the fire. You don't get to try and
save the day now and put it out. If Nico
wasn't all surprised or just wanted more time, well the
Dallas Mavericks couldn't give it to him. Denzel Washington and

(02:13:40):
man on fire, I wish you had more time. You don't.
You couldn't because you were the one that traded Luka Dancic.
You're not the one to get us out of this mess.
You might give up Anthony Davis for nothing. Next, you
might trade Cooper Flag. We can't trust you. That's on
the table. If you are willing to trade Luka Doncic,

(02:14:02):
who Cooper flag will never be as good as love him,
but he will never be that good. You're willing to
trade anyone. That's the problem. That's the position he put
himself in. He wanted all the credit. The trade obviously

(02:14:24):
was a disaster from the get go. They let it
play out, and then when they finally realized there's no
coming back from this with Nico Harrison, they let him
go because the uproar was too much. Because fans in
Dallas still have power, Thank goodness, eventually they were hurt.

(02:14:48):
They hit him in the pocketbook. Tickets were down to
like eleven dollars a game at American Airlines Center. The
Clippers just played there on Friday. I know this. I
haven't tell there. The fans were revolting for good reason.
It should have been done probably this summer. I can

(02:15:12):
somewhat understand if you're not gonna fire him right after
trading Luka Doncic, you might as well play let it
play out a little bit. But what are they three
to ten? Luka Doncic has more forty point games this
season than the Dallas Mavericks have victories. Let that marinate
for a second. Luka, Doncic lost weight. Everything Nico said

(02:15:38):
ended up being wrong. You don't judge someone at the
time of the trade. He was twenty five that young
and say, well, he's never gonna grow up, He's never
gonna change. If you want to argue the reason he
changed is because he got a kick in the ass
from Nico. Fine, But if you want to say they

(02:16:02):
had to trade him, okay, if you were convinced he
was never gonna get in shape in Dallas, fine, but
if you do trade him, you have to get much
more than that, not exactly a hole. That's the biggest issue.
You put him on the open market. You might have
been able to get Anthony Edwards. Honestly, Lucas gonna end

(02:16:26):
up being top three in the MVP this season probably,
And you traded that guy who's still twenty six now,
who has the Lakers and I think ten to three
without Lebron so far. How do you not see in

(02:16:47):
today's day and age in the NBA that you need
an offensive engine like that. And with the weight he lost,
he may start peaking. He may be entering his prime,
right now, and we haven't even seen the best of
Luka Doncic. Dallas fumbled it completely and I shouldn't say Dallas,

(02:17:13):
that's disrespectful, Nico said. Okay, he didn't say it, but
I believe Nico wanted the credit. You got it. You
get credit for trading Luka Doncic. You said time will
tell if I'm right. You got nine months, that's it.

(02:17:33):
But we all knew immediately. Trying too hard to look
like the smartest guy in the room. Kiss keep it simple. Stupid.
Coming up next on the other end of the spectrum,
I actually kind of feel bad for Brian Dabele, who
was fired by the New York Giants this week. Why

(02:17:56):
I'll explain, I'm out of Mousland and he listened to
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:18:01):
What are we investigating tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
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get off the air. Before that, we do have Breeze
three coming up in the final segment. But you know,
I did my hit piece on Niko Harrison made some
unfounded accusations. I just had a theory that maybe he

(02:18:47):
won more credit, okay, and that's why he was jealous
of Luca. He put the defense together, that's how they
got to the NBA Finals. It wasn't Luka Doncic, so
therefore he thought he could get by without him. Now,
on the other end of the spectrum, there's a coach
I feel bad for that got let go this week.

(02:19:10):
Two guys getting fired. One you could see it coming, Okay,
both you could see it coming. But Brian Dable got
the boot out of New York earlier this week. But
I wanted to clear something up about why it happened
and why I actually think Dabell was in an impossible spot,

(02:19:31):
not just because it's impossible to win in New York
with either football team. Right now, I only have about
a New York minute to explain this here, but we
get I guess sympathy for Brian Dable at least I do.
I'm gonna show a little bit of sympathy for him.

(02:19:53):
I'm gonna key in on the main reason given by
the New York media for why he was fired. It's
not so so much about them being two to eight.
That is a factory, yes, it always is. So is
the way they've given games away, blowing four double digit
fourth quarter leads this season, including a historic collapse in

(02:20:15):
Denver where the Giants held a win probability of ninety
nine point eight percent. And you can say Brian Dabele
had a ninety nine point eight percent win probability of
being fired this season since after his first season where
they went nine to seven and one and actually won

(02:20:35):
a playoff game with Daniel Jones. Since then, the New
York Giants are eleven and thirty three with Brian Dable
at In the fact, as I mentioned, Daniel Jones is
now winning the divorce and looking like an MVP away
from his coaching along with the decision a weird one

(02:20:58):
to start Russell Wilson initially this season. And yes, you
had the jay Z blueprint for him being exiled from
Big Blue it was all there makes sense. But the
number one reason I'm hearing he was fired actually is
the one thing I don't blame Brian Dabele for, and

(02:21:19):
that's actually trying to win. It wasn't your fault, they said,
the cardinal sin or the giant sin he made. The
got Brian Dabele terminated was the fact he put Jackson
Dart at risk for injury with design run plays, and
you can't put the franchise quarterback in harm's way. That

(02:21:39):
was the number one reason, at least from what I'm
hearing from the media in New York, for why Brian
Dable got fired above everything else. But my argument would
be this, that means Brian Dabele is gonna lose lose
situation because the only way the Giants had a chance
of winning games is if Jackson Dart ran the football.

(02:22:03):
So if dabel doesn't win games, he knew he'd be fired.
But also their only path to winning games was to
run Jackson Dart, which would inevitably lead to him being hurt,
which also gets Dable fired. What exactly was Brian Dabeles
supposed to do? He was between a rock and a
hard place or run the rock in a hard place.

(02:22:24):
If he loses more games, which they most certainly would have,
if he only has Jackson Dart throw it, he's fired.
If Jackson Dart goes all out getting hurt running the
ball trying to desperately win games, he's fired, which is
what happened. And look, Jackson Dart, his passing numbers are

(02:22:45):
not terrible, but it was the threat of the run,
keeping the defense off balance, especially without his number one receiver,
Malik Neighbors, and especially without Cam Skataboo getting hurt too
to run the rock. So what exactly was Brian Dables
supposed to do If the mandate is to win games

(02:23:05):
and the only way you could keep your job is
doing that, but also you have to run Jackson Dart.
That's how they were mostly successful out there, which could
lead to an injury, which also gets the fire. Like
I see people saying it was coaching malpractice to have
these designed runs in there.

Speaker 6 (02:23:25):
The kids are playing their tail out and the coaches.

Speaker 2 (02:23:27):
Are screwing it up. You know, those design runs that
were successful but also led to him being in the
blue tent constantly. Guy knew more about tenths than a
salesman and ARII like, is it really coaching mal practice? Though?
To try and save your job, that was self preservation,
That's what I saw. You blame Dabel for being reckless

(02:23:48):
with a franchise quarterback for a franchise he's not going
to be a part of unless they win games by
running Jackson Dart. Have you seen some of his throws?
They were lawn darts. You could say Brian Dable's trying
to save his own skin by taking some off of
Jackson Dart, who was more than willing to try and
be the real White VIC Giants fans thought they had

(02:24:11):
with Daniel Jones. Football is a violent game that, as
our friend Petricks Papadakus would say, quote in a football
world or in a perfect world. Football doesn't exist in
a perfect world. It doesn't. So if you blame a
guy for trying to win and save his job while
increasing the risk of injury with his young quarterback, fine,

(02:24:34):
But understand Brian Dable was in a no win situation
and wanting to go out his way by giving his
team the best chance to win at the expense of
his QB. Maybe, but there's no guarantee Jackson Dart is
ever going to be a star anyways, like this may
be we remember RG three like you can have good

(02:24:59):
rookie seasons, you can show flashes, and it all can
amount to as still having a pretty low ceiling out there.
Maybe the only way Jackson Dart is ever going to
be much of a threat is if he is a
dual threat and he has to run the rock song,
which eventually will get him back in the Blue ten.

(02:25:19):
But the Giants, they look at it like we're living
for the future right now, Brian Dabeles, living in the present,
taking it day by day, play by play. Ultimately their
plans no longer aligned, and that's how you see a
separation like this. Plus you know this suck and or
two and eight and will somebody had to take the fall?

(02:25:40):
Why not Dable, Like I just have a little bit
of sympathy for a guy that was put in a
really tough position. I think is that fair? I know
Giants fans aren't going to give a damn. You're two
and eight. As I mentioned, there are eleven and thirty
three after his first season where there was some excitement

(02:26:03):
and some potential there. Maybe apply that to Jackson Dart
just because you have a good first year doesn't mean
everything's gonna be fine. The NFL, as we say, is
a week two week league. They do need to explore
how good Jackson Dart can be. They do need to

(02:26:23):
keep him healthy. Of course. I'm just saying, if you're
Brian Dable, you gotta win games. That's what you care about.
And if that means letting a guy who wants to
run run because it helps you win, I think that's
the game plan. I think that's your mo I think
that's what you have to do. I don't know he

(02:26:44):
was putting a tough spot like that. I would not
envy that place to be in. Now you can blame
him for a lot of other stuff. They lost games
late the Denver game, Jackson Dart through a horrible interception,
by the way, or else they don't lose it. Starting
Russell will Wilson though at the beginning of the season
obviously a really bad move when it looked like Jackson

(02:27:09):
Dart was pretty good in the preseason, he was ready.
Does that just mean if you start him earlier, he
gets hurt earlier, and you're already earlier in the season.
Having Jameis Winston in there, he was going to be
starting against the Packers in New York a little bit
later today, maybe, But yeah, I can't excuse that. Russell Wilson.

(02:27:35):
I guess they brought him in for a reason. They
paid him. You had to see what he had left,
but it was pretty obvious it wasn't much. Maybe if
he started Jackson Dart earlier and it looked like he
was tied to this quarterback, because sometimes that's how it goes.
You draft a guy that's Brian Dables, guy the GM

(02:27:57):
survived for now? Are they all tied together for the future? Well,
Brian Able, isn't they cut him loose? We'll see what
the next head coach does. Maybe it'll be Lane Kiffin
back with Jackson Dart. Wouldn't that be interesting? Smoke Weed
talk s like Lane Kiffin. I'd like to see it.

(02:28:20):
I think it'd be fun. You got a raw deal
with the Raiders, like everyone most of their fans. Coming
up next here on Fox Sports Radio final segment, we
got Breeze three and I hear it is Jameis Winston related. Okay,
this should be good. I'm Adam Osland and you're listening

(02:28:43):
to Fox Sports Radio. Oh yes, Adam Ashlynd welcome back
in It's Fox Football Sunday. I'm Adam Mosland. If you
want to get to me, I'm at to follow Adam
a on X final segment. Here been a good four
hours or three hours and forty five minutes so far.
Good at filling again for Bernie Fratto this time. All right,

(02:29:06):
let's get to it. This is a staple here. I
know this game not.

Speaker 5 (02:29:10):
One but three.

Speaker 3 (02:29:15):
It's entertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:29:16):
It's good. It's breeze three. All right, braybree how's this
work again?

Speaker 7 (02:29:24):
Okay, this works? There's three things we could do.

Speaker 2 (02:29:29):
Okay, wait a second, it's getting complicated. It's just like
his stupid taste bud thing.

Speaker 6 (02:29:33):
Oh you're so rude. Okay.

Speaker 7 (02:29:35):
I just come up with a topic and I just say, like,
pick three things that have to do with this one
specific topic.

Speaker 2 (02:29:42):
Okay, what's the theme? What's the topic?

Speaker 7 (02:29:44):
So this week, Jameis Winston is officially getting his first
start for the Giants today.

Speaker 2 (02:29:51):
He deserves it. He deserves it all. He really now.
It is at the expense of Jackson Dart being hurt here,
and we don't like seeing that. But Jamis wins is
everybody's favorite backup quarterback, erratic thrower, ill advised passer.

Speaker 6 (02:30:06):
Eating the w's.

Speaker 7 (02:30:07):
Yeah, talking about Lasik biking around New Orleans during the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
You know, the crab thing happened a long time ago.
We've all forgotten about that. He is reborn. I love him.

Speaker 7 (02:30:19):
It's kind of like Baker Mayfield with the with the
white T shirt and the white beater.

Speaker 6 (02:30:26):
Remember that, No, what did he do any rested or
was that?

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
Oh? Was he running from the cops? Was that him
or john Manziel?

Speaker 6 (02:30:34):
Oh No, I think it was Baker.

Speaker 2 (02:30:37):
I get those white quarterbacks confused him so bad. Okay, anyways,
I'm wide I can say that way. They were similar
in their college ways. Okay, Dia Manzel unfortunately an attic
Baker Mayfield got together.

Speaker 6 (02:30:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:30:50):
Baker Mayfield was arrested for public intoxication and then he
was tackled and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:30:56):
Yeah, young men make mistakes. You don't hold it against
him forever.

Speaker 7 (02:31:00):
He was in the white wife beater, like I thought though,
right Nation Project, Maybe that was Johnny Manziel. Okay, anyways,
so yeah, so James Winston is starting So I just
kind of thought like he's like a well loved cultural
quarterback that we all like, all admire, and you know,
as an athlete.

Speaker 2 (02:31:16):
He's a gun slinger.

Speaker 6 (02:31:18):
He's a gun slinger.

Speaker 2 (02:31:19):
He will risk it all at any point of the game.
He reminds us of what we're missing now with no
bread Varr exactly.

Speaker 7 (02:31:26):
So anyway, so I just thought, who are some athletes
that have very memorable and lovable and personalities that we
just love all together, right or just personally. So for
my first one, I went Charles Barkley.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
Oh, it's a real tough choice there, Charles Barkley.

Speaker 6 (02:31:44):
I went chalk. I did go chalk a little. I
went choky. And plus because I didn't get to see.

Speaker 7 (02:31:51):
A lot of his career, I was already like this
was like the beginning part.

Speaker 6 (02:31:55):
Of my life.

Speaker 2 (02:31:55):
That's almost to chalk for you. No, it's just.

Speaker 7 (02:32:03):
We canna play that specific sound. Because he's known more
for personality.

Speaker 2 (02:32:09):
Yes, being the biggest sports media personality analyst, however you
want to put it, then being a Hall of Fame
basketball player. At this point, you kids don't understand round
bound a freebounding shut up in jam with Charles Barkley.

Speaker 7 (02:32:25):
He was, but he was a son. So I watched
that footage. Okay, but I wasn't alive during it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:32:33):
No, it's not my fault.

Speaker 2 (02:32:34):
I can't big women done. And he's funny and he's hilarious.

Speaker 6 (02:32:38):
Now okay, this is not your breeze. Three. You're gonna
get to yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
I get a critique, yours don't.

Speaker 6 (02:32:43):
I Oh sure, so that's my number one. My number two?
I went Steve Nash.

Speaker 2 (02:32:49):
What personality does he have? Sheryl Crow would agree with me,
he has no personality.

Speaker 6 (02:32:55):
Talking about is he done?

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
You're thinking lamps armstrong?

Speaker 6 (02:33:00):
Yeah you are?

Speaker 2 (02:33:00):
Do they both leave their wife or show cops? Are
Lance is the worst? I'm definitely not picking him.

Speaker 6 (02:33:06):
That's no.

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
Okay, Wait, who did Steve Nash get with? Who am
I thinking of? I know Nicki Minaj did that lap
dance on him that one time. I remember that.

Speaker 7 (02:33:13):
And Nellie Ertado had a song when promiscuous, he had
a line like he she brought him up and that
and the promiscuous.

Speaker 2 (02:33:22):
So I'm sorry, Steve, I didn't mean to spread rumors.

Speaker 6 (02:33:26):
Yeah, that's so rude.

Speaker 7 (02:33:27):
And he does have a good personality. He's doing a
lot of postgame stuff with the Prime.

Speaker 2 (02:33:32):
What You're right Yeah, I know, he's starting to sound
pretty damn good next to Blake, next to you, Donna's
Haslam and Dirk Davinski. Yeah, I actually really love their setup.
It's really it's a good technology they have.

Speaker 6 (02:33:44):
They did the whole thing on the court and it's
like a video.

Speaker 2 (02:33:46):
Game talking basketball and not just giving hot takes out there.

Speaker 7 (02:33:50):
Did you see Jokic was like, oh, this was fun.
After he like left there and he's like, oh, this
is a great interview.

Speaker 6 (02:33:55):
This was fun. He literally said that, He's like, oh,
this was actually fun.

Speaker 2 (02:33:59):
It was informative. Yeah, it was interesting.

Speaker 7 (02:34:01):
So I think he's come a long way as a
media personality, but when he was playing, he was also
really interesting. There was a book Seven Seconds or Less,
written by Jack McCollum, that Sports Illustrated writer, and in
the book, he was talking about Sasha Vuya Chic when
they were in the two thousand and six Western Conference
Finals and like he literally was like I almost wanted

(02:34:23):
to put my arm around this dude, and he dropped
like three exclatives and he was like, you can't guard me.
Like that's really cute, but you think you can guard me,
you can't guard me. So like you know, it was
like very underlining because on the surface he looked like
very like, oh, he's just.

Speaker 6 (02:34:38):
Kind of chilled. He was a audient.

Speaker 7 (02:34:40):
Yeah, like amazing. So that actually leads me to my
third priest.

Speaker 2 (02:34:44):
Wait, hold on, I forgot what makes Steve Nash so fun?

Speaker 6 (02:34:49):
That makes him fun?

Speaker 2 (02:34:51):
The Sports Illustrated article saying, now this is gonna be
fun with him and Dwight Howard on the cover with
the Lakers everything falling apart.

Speaker 6 (02:35:01):
Then the four minutes left of you Can't Wait.

Speaker 7 (02:35:03):
Okay, my last one Larry Bird, the ultimate trash talker.

Speaker 2 (02:35:08):
Yeah, you just.

Speaker 6 (02:35:09):
Never would have thought that he was like that.

Speaker 7 (02:35:11):
I watched all the Lakers Celtics, you know, back and forth,
all those DVDs with my dad and so just I
think he was like very lovable and entertaining because he
was such a like s talker, pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:35:23):
Good and winning time. Also at least his character. I
didn't watch that once of you guys are coming in
second tonight, lace them up. It's going to be a
long night.

Speaker 6 (02:35:31):
See. So yeah, so I think that has those were
those were mine? Mark, You're up.

Speaker 4 (02:35:38):
So my first personality would be Joe Montana, great quarterback.
I think he's the number one. He's my number one four,
you know, championships and all that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:35:49):
So cool.

Speaker 4 (02:35:49):
And then I would have two running backs as my
breeze three. First running back is Walter Payton and then
Marcus Allen, and then my third person is Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (02:36:02):
So those are my breeze three. Wait a second, I
heard four guys in there. I had to bunch two
to make my three. You went combo package with the
running backs there, absolutely what's your favorite Michael Jordan moment?
I got a good one.

Speaker 4 (02:36:17):
I think it's the uh and the when they beat
the Lakers going up with the left hand and ending
with the right hand, the switcheroo.

Speaker 6 (02:36:24):
Yes, that was that was great.

Speaker 2 (02:36:26):
See you talk personality, though, Jordan was obviously a kill.

Speaker 4 (02:36:31):
Between that move and when I think it was he
was playing the Knicks and he would he dribbled into
the corner and he faked him out and he swung
back around and dunked it on Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 2 (02:36:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was a great movement. He also talked
a lot of trash. He once called Muggsy Bogues a
little person. There's another name for that, and uh it
wrecked his confidence, muggsy bogues for years. All right, I'll
give you my three. Steve Smith Sr. Former Carolina Panther,
Baltimore raven an absolute dog out there on the field,

(02:37:04):
ice up son, ice up, talking trash with a keep
to leave just in your face, passionate, intense, also self
aware and self deprecating. After he got caught cheating on
his wife and that story went viral, and then doing
a Panthers game next to Jake Dell home and some
color or some play by play guy that was kind

(02:37:27):
of brought up. This was during the preseason. This is hilarious.
Listen to Steve Smith here, you guys, Yes, going.

Speaker 1 (02:37:34):
Through the drive through after the game, you're gonna treat
the fans to a chicken sandwich if they spot you.

Speaker 2 (02:37:40):
No brothers, one chick his house. May y'all know my situation.
I can't afford to be helping anybody right now.

Speaker 6 (02:37:47):
So here's one thing went off camera.

Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
You know my situation. I can't be afford I can't
afford to be helping people right now. He's alluding to
the fact that I think he's gained divorce there. Yeah,
I guess there was a free chicken Sandwich of the
Panthers scored twenty points or something like that in the preseason,
and he had some fun with it there. Okay, I
also got troll Embiid Joe l Embiid. I like Joel
Embiid's sense of humor. I like the fact that he

(02:38:16):
shot his shot at Rihanna and was like, if I'm
an All Star, where you go out with me? He's funny.
Obviously international guy. English not his first language, but he
gets our comedic sense of humor. He's great. When Ben
Simmons left, remember he posted the picture of the guy
I just went to my biggest hater's funeral to make

(02:38:36):
sure he was dead. He posted that picture when Ben
Simmons left.

Speaker 6 (02:38:41):
Yes, yeah, oh okay, do remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:38:43):
And then finally my third guy because he's so cool,
Dame Dalla rapper, a legit athlete, rapper who's good at it,
who isn't just faking it, Who isn't just every rapper
trying to be an athlete, every athlete trying to be
a rapper. Damian Lillard is great and just his mindset.

(02:39:07):
He eventually, yes, ran from the grind, I guess, but
he stayed in Portland as long as he could. He
tried to build something there. I love him for that.
Damian Lillard my favorite non clipper in the NBA. Thanks Abreby,
thanks to Mark. I'm Adam osland more Fox Sports Radio.
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