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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Yeah, it's taking chafe, isn't it? Week three starting to
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Gonna figure it out? Good evening, as we.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
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(00:39):
special for you tonight, Kyle Rudolph. We even have some
things that I haven't told you about, but I know
that you had a special afternoon. You were on the
scene for Vikings Chargers and I cannot wait to hear
about it and get into some things about this game.
Good evening, How are you tonight?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, it's certainly been an incredible weekend for for me
and my family up here a Minnesota. Unfortunately lost a
tough one today at us Bank Stadium, but it was
it was really cool for me to get the opportunity
to be back in that stadium, a stadium that I
have so many great memories from, in front of a
fan base that's been so incredible to me and my
family ever since I got here as a rookie, as

(01:20):
a twenty one year old kid out of Notre Dame.
So ultimate ultimately didn't get the job done today, and
we'll certainly get into that here shortly, but nonetheless, it
was incredible for us to be there and to see
the outpouring of support from that fan base and allow
them to know what they mean to us, and just

(01:40):
get to be back in front of.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Everyone, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, with what I've seen on social media, I
get it a little bit. Could you share with our
audience though, not just how it felt, but exactly what
was happening for you this weekend and what was being celebrated.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, it was important for me, And you know, ultimately,
when I had thought about retiring, I kind of just
assumed I'd show up on the radio and on TV
and everyone would know that I was retired because I'm
on the radio on Sunday nights and on TV on
some Saturday afternoons. Because you know, realistically, there's so many

(02:16):
guys like you just think about all of the players
that retire year after year, and I just figured I
had an amazing career.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
It was awesome. It's time to move on to what's next.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I was very fortunate that it was a decision that
I was able to make. It wasn't a decision that
my body was going to make. You know, a lot
of times, either your body tells you it's time to stop,
or the thirty two NFL teams tell you it's time
to stop and the phone stops ringing. So for me
this offseason, you know, just ultimately, between my family and I,

(02:51):
we decided that now is a great time to move
into what's next. And then I got to give credit
to the Vikings and you know their legends the apartment.
Tom West is the former one of the former PR
guys there, and you really just stayed on me all
summer about you have to come back. You know, we
got to put a bow on it for you. You deserve it,

(03:13):
and ultimately for me, it was more so.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
The fact that.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
As cool as the whole weekend was, starting from the
press conference on Thursday to the game today and everything
in between, there's just so many more people outside of
myself that played a role in those last twelve years
and helped me ultimately achieve the success that I had,
and I didn't want it to be all about me,

(03:39):
And although the Vikings did an incredible job really celebrating me,
but I really wanted it to be more about my
family and everyone that was around me over the course
of those twelve years and everything that they meant to
that they meant to me and to share in that experience.
So that's why I ultimately decided to do it, and

(04:01):
I'm glad I did it because it was such an
incredible weekend with my wife, Jordan, my four kids, my
entire family, my parents, my brother, my sister, my mother and.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Father in law.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
So it was just a really really cool weekend for
our family that I wouldn't trade for the world.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Love it man, Well, congratulations. Sounds like an unbelievable weekend.
As you said, the Vikings did. Unfortunately for everyone on
the on the scene did not do their part. Although
Brandon Staley did his didn't he he loves to do
this in a close game. He loves to hand something
to the other team at least once a game, and
the Vikings were not able to take advantage. But before

(04:40):
we even just get into the nuts and bolts of
the game, I'm watching this one and I thought about
our conversation a lot last week, and Kyle, I wonder
if you've ever had this happen in your life.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Have you ever had an idea where you're like.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's a crazy idea that come on, that's crazy, that's
just that's not that's not reality. Kind of a wild idea,
and then as things develop, weeks go by and you're like,
it's actually not that crazy, Maybe we should do this.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I wonder if anyone's had that experience.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Last week you sat here and said, look, it's not
going to happen. It's a little bit too crazy of
an idea. But the New York Jets I had brought
up the name Carson Wentz. This word came out today.
Carson had the same idea. He called the Jets and
they were like, nope, no thanks, we're fine. Matt Ryan

(05:37):
called the Jets, they said, nope, no thanks, we're fine.
Last week you said, you know, the name they should
want is Kirk Cousins. But that's not going to happen
because it's a little too early and a little too wild.
With that interception at the goal line to send the
Vikings to zero to three. Realistically, the playoffs are now

(05:58):
a very, very long shot, and you've already said it's
a team that has not committed to Kirk Cousins beyond
this year. Meantime, I'm watching this Jets team going my god,
with every week that goes by, they're going to let this,
this really solid roster just slip away. And I'm like,
I don't think this is that crazy of an idea anymore, Kyle,

(06:22):
I think that this should happen.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, when I thought about it last week,
you know, I truly believe there's one quarterback that gives
the Jets a chance to go win a Super Bowl.
And I mean I watched Kirk firsthand today up and
down the field. You know, thirty two of fifty three
hundred and sixty seven yards, three touchdowns. Obviously the interception

(06:49):
at the end of the game, and you know, we
can get into some of that late game time management,
which is not on Kirk. It's not a decision that
Kirk's making that's coming from the sidelines, and you know,
he goes out and plays great, gives them a chance
to win the game and they lose twenty eight to
twenty four and another close one, and yes, they moved
to oh to three, and only one team has made

(07:09):
the playoffs I believe since two thousand and three. I'm
not sure. I'll have to check with our guys, but
I believe it was the twenty nineteen Houston Texan started
oh and three and made the playoffs. So the odds
are certainly not in the Vikings favor to turn around
and make the playoffs. So when you look at it,
you know, I mentioned if if you're going to commit
to Kirk Cousins, then commit to him long term. But

(07:32):
then what do you do with Justin Jefferson Because you
got to pay Justin Jefferson a ton of money. I mean,
he went off again today for almost one hundred and
fifty yards in a touchdown. It's like it almost looks
like a video game that he's playing out there. I've
really never seen anything like it besides the year that
I played with him in twenty twenty, where just it's
so effortless for him and he is the best receiver

(07:54):
in football and he's.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Going to have to be paid like it.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
So you know, what do you do from a roster standpoint,
and you know, it doesn't surprise me that those guys
reached out to the Jets and the Jets said no,
thank you, because you don't just bring a guy off
the street week four and think that he's going to
give you a better chance than the guy who's been there.
It doesn't matter who that person is, it's still an
NFL quarterback that's gone through the entire offseason, training camp, preseason.

(08:24):
So you know, ultimately, yeah, it's an incredibly crazy idea,
and I still don't think he'll ever happen, But it's like,
who's a really, really good quarterback that gives them a
chance to win the Super Bowl. It just so happens
that there's an zero to three team that has one
who's you know, future of their franchise is waning in
the balance a little bit. Right now, where are we at,

(08:46):
what are we doing? What's the long term plan? You've
got a second year GM, a second year head coach.
It would give them a lot more draft capital, but
certainly then you dive into the Jets draft capital. What
they have to offer could be an issue that could
tie all this up. But yeah, it certainly is interesting.
You know, as I sat there and watched the game
in person today, I was certainly hoping that they were

(09:08):
going to get to one and two.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
One and two, I.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Bet the Chargers feel a whole lot better. And we
can talk about Brandon Staley a little bit. It just
absolutely blows my mind that he tried to hand them
the game. And you know, I'm sitting there watching in
person thing and we might be talking about a head
coach getting fired on our show tonight if the Vikings
turn around and score on this twenty five yard short
field they gave him instead of punting the football. So

(09:31):
you know, ultimately, the Chargers defense stepped up big, in
my opinion, a little bit of a mismanagement of the
clock there down the stretch. They get the big fourth down,
You've got first in goal with over thirty seconds left,
and they let the clock go down and ultimately through
an interception with about seven seconds left. I would love

(09:51):
to see a spike with a little over thirty seconds left,
and then you got three shots at the end zone
with the clock stopped. It's not a scramble. You're not
hurrying up to the line. You spike it on first down,
it's second and six or whatever they are. It's second
and goal from the six, and you got three shots
with the clock stop to call your best red zone

(10:13):
plays that you have. And you know you got guys
all over the field on that offense, justin Jefferson, TJ.
Howkins and Jordan Edison, kJ Osborne, guys making plays all
day in the past game. I would have loved to
see them getting a shot on something that was able
to be drawn up al of the huddle.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think you're spot on with the analysis.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You're also, by the way, spot on that the Houston
Texans in twenty eighteen started oh to three and went
eleven and five. Since the Super Bowl era has started
in nineteen sixty six, only six teams have done it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Only six teams have gone on in three and ended
up in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
So you're looking at something around the neighborhood of a
three percent chance. And so I totally get what you're saying,
which is, oh, this is probably not going to happen
because it just feels too emotionally heavy. I don't know
that if a Viking fan is sitting here listening to
us right now, they're like, shut up, no chance, what

(11:11):
on earth are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But if you take the emotion out of it, Kyle,
I would argue that it's actually an obvious thing to
do for both franchises with where they sit right now.
The Jets are not in a year where they can
just be like, wait till next year. I'm sure Aaron
Rodgers will be fine, and he's going to be forty

(11:36):
and all that they've invested so much in this year,
it's slip.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sliding away already.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Zach Wilson is not going to get anywhere in the NFL.
It's obvious to anyone who has eyes, even if you've
only got one, you can tell they're not going anywhere there.
So they have got to do something and the options
are limited. And then, on the other hand, are the
Vikings really going to go after a two and a
half to three percent chance even though they could get

(12:07):
draft capital in return, and, let's be honest, probably lose
more games which would help them replace Kirk Cousins next year.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I know no one wants to.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Say that out loud, but to me both organizations it
furthers their goal if they were to make a move like.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
This, well, and I go back to the personnel that
I described before in a second year young GM, a
second year young head coach. Both of these guys trying
to prove that, you know, they belong in the big leagues.
This is their team. They get to mold the team.
So it is if you can get which we all
know the Jets now will retain because that compensatory pick,

(12:54):
or that the pick won't go from a two to
a one with Aaron not playing the amount of staffs
that has to play, So the Jets will have a
first round pick that they can send to Minnesota. And
it's like, if you're the Vikings and you can get
a first round pick, you know, yeah, ultimately, you're probably
not gonna win as many games this year without Kirk
under center, because he gives you a chance week in

(13:14):
and week out. And you know, do I believe that
this is a team. We talked about it last week.
They're probably going to be right there. You know, Kirk's
not going to go out there and be four in
thirteen or you know, three and fourteen and give you
a chance to have one of those top picks to
find his replacement next year. He's just too good of
a quarterback he's gonna go win no matter what else happens.

(13:37):
He's gonna go win seven, eight, nine games. Well, that
gives you a pick, usually just out of the top ten.
And now it gives you the opportunity to get another
pick to whereas if you don't have maybe one, two
or three, and you want one, two or three because
you found your guy at the quarterback position who can
change your franchise, Now you have another first round pick

(13:58):
of draft capital that you can use with your original
first round pick to get up there and get it. So,
certainly it is it's crazy to think about, but it
makes sense when you're like you said, when you take
the emotion of everyone's pride going in week in and
week out to win games even at oh and three,
Like I, you never would have thought at oh and three,

(14:22):
we still don't have a chance to make the playoffs.
That's just the nature of every athlete, every locker room
I've ever been in, those guys will still go in
the building tomorrow, they'll watch the tape, they'll correct the mistakes,
and they'll say, we're going to Carolina this week. We
got to come back one and one and three. We
can't be zero and four coming home at the end
of the first quarter of the season. And that's just
that's the nature of the locker room, that's the nature

(14:44):
of the business, that's the nature of everybody's personality in
these buildings across the league. You know, I talked about
Arizona week one as a bunch of pride full people,
and you know, everybody says, well, they're just going to
have the number one pick locked up, because well they
just of course, you lose all your games and get
the number one pick. They go knock off the Dallas
Cowboys today at home and should have beat the Giants

(15:06):
last week at home. So we're looking at what should
be a two to one Arizona Cardinals team that we
had just written off because they don't have the talent
and they have first year head coach, young coordinators, all
these things. And it's like, that's one of the things
that I love providing the perspective from just the pride
that these people have in these organizations, from coaching.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Staffs to players. They go out there.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Each and every Sunday, as the great Herm Edwards once said,
they play to win the game.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'll tell you what. They barely lost Week one and
they had a shot to beat Washington. They are like
a little bounce here at a tweak there from being
three and oh, which is an incredibly wild thought. Yeah,
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into the game a little bit, because because you brought

(16:18):
it up, it was two coaches who both uh did
uh did some things down the stretch that left us
scratching our heads. We'll get into that and then the
shrug of everyone's collective shoulders about what to do about
the Chicago Bears.

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little background on the calls that you and I are

(18:02):
referring to in this Chargers Vikings game, Chargers up twenty
eight to twenty four. They've got the ball out about
what yard line in their own territory?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Kyle? Where were they to be.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Exact, I'd have to check to be exact, but it was.
I mean, I think just outside the twenty five yard line.
I mean, because they got the ball and then you know,
obviously Ran made him use some timeouts, and then it
was fourth and one h so, you know, maybe minus
thirty territory and about.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
How much time left to go in this game? And
again a four point lead. I'm trying to pull up
the charge right now.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah, I'm trying to pull up the game cast as well.
I want to say it was a four point lead
with a little over a minute left.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Okay, I got to try. Now I've got it right now.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Minutes fifty one to go in the game, fourth and
one at their own twenty four. Okay, you're up four
minute fifty one to go in the game, fourth and
one at your own twenty four.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
So Staley is thinking, Brandon Staley.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Head coach Los Angeles Chargers, a field goal doesn't beat us.
And the other thing we know about Stay is he
is very much a part of the new NFL, the
new level of sports analytically driven and I guarantee you, Kyle,
as much as you and I and our sensibilities sit

(19:39):
here and go what the hell are you doing? There
is some mathematical answer that suggests what he was doing
was gave the Chargers a higher percentage chance to win
then kicking the ball away, because the thought process is
if we get a yard, we win, and that is

(20:01):
a very high likelihood. What's crazy, though, is their running
back for the day, Josh Kelly was literally averaging a
yard to carry for the day and their running game
was going nowhere. So, especially from someone who's been on
the sideline in these moments, what is the team thinking

(20:24):
when when the Chargers go for it in a situation
like that and don't get it.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
I mean, if I'm on the Viking sideline, you're thinking,
thank you, you just handed us the game. You know,
we got to go twenty four yards now to get
a touchdown with no timeouts and we're under the two
minute warning, so the clock will literally not stop for
the rest of the game if we don't get out
of bounds and you just gave us the ball on
our plus twenty four yard line instead of punning it

(20:53):
to who knows where, I mean, just anywhere on the
other side of the field. Kick it out of bounds
at the minus thirty and flip the field and your
defense has a minute and forty something seconds no timeouts,
and you got to keep them from scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Again, they're not They don't have to get in field
goal range.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
They have to score, So why would you not make
them go more yards with less time.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
I get it, if it.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Were always that easy to get a yard, people would
go for it more often. I just feel like, time
and time again, we keep seeing the Chargers going forward
on fourth down, going for two point conversions all the
time when they're completely unnecessary, and then ultimately it's coming
back and you know, biting them in.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
The rear, where today it didn't.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
The Vikings were not able to capitalize, you know, the
interception down there at the end of the game on
first and goal, which we can get into to that
side of the game management as well. Ultimately, he didn't
pay the price today, so you know, I guess the
analytics won in this scenario. But I just feel like
football is a game where players and you know, yes,

(22:01):
analytics are great, and maybe the numbers say that that
gives you another shot, But I like my chances a
whole lot more punting that ball to the other side
of the field and sending my defense out there as
the defensive play caller head coach and saying, hey, there's
no way you're gonna go seventy five yards and score
a touchdown with a minute and some change in no timeouts.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm with you, and I know Derwin James had left
the game and whatnot. But this Charger defense, which is
given up absolutely just gobs and gobs of yards and
points so far this year, is supposed to be good.
There there's a lot of really good personnel on this defense,
and so that's sort of like if I were a
defensive player on the Chargers, I would I would take

(22:45):
offense to what Brandon Staley did today.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
And that's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
The other thing is like a lot of times you'll
see coaches that go for it mentality, you know, like
we're going for two, you know, at the last second,
and forget kicking the next two points to tie the game.
We're going for two and players will be like, I
love it. Our coach had faith in us and he
wants to win the game. This feels like the opposite.

(23:10):
This is a coach going no defense with with with
a minute plus to go, a minute and a half
to go and no timeouts.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
On the other side, I don't think you can stop.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson from scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
A little bit of a slap in the face.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
You know.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
And it's funny you bring up that example of going
for two at the end of the game to just
win it instead of tie and go to overtime, and
quite honestly, you see that usually when it's an extremely
outmatched team, you know, an underdog that hung around and
they got the chance to score to tie the game
late in the game, and instead of kicking it and
going to overtime where you know, ultimately you're the underdog

(23:51):
in you're out match, so you figure we might not
win an overtime, but we have one chance from the
two yard line to score and when the game we're
gonna take it. I get that same kind of feeling
where there wasn't a whole lot of faith in that defense,
which you have Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, two of
the highest defensive payd players in the history of our game.

(24:13):
Their whole job is to go get a sack. They
were putting pressure on Kirk Cousins the entire game. The
whole game, they were getting pressure on Kirk. It's like,
kick the ball down there and let the guys that
you pay a lot of money to close out the
game instead of turning around and handing the ball in
the minus twenty four.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, wild, absolutely wild.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Not as wild as the football we're seeing from the
Chicago Bears, but wild nonetheless. So we'll get to that
here coming up in one minute. But let's welcome in
the third member of our team tonight, and that is
none other than Steve de Sager. Let's get everybody up
to Dan and everything going on.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Hello Steve, Hello to you.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
It's Pittsburgh at Las Vegas. In the opening five minutes,
it is scoreless. Now the Raiders, according to AP so
far this young ENFL season, are allowing over three and
a half points per drive and the Steelers went three
and out on the first drive. Meanwhile, the other way
Steelers entered the week zero point eight, so We'll see

(25:12):
what the Raiders can muster here Josh Jacobs and company
on the offense, but it is scoreless.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Early.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
Arizona upset Dallas twenty eight to sixteen, James Connor nearly
one hundred yards rushing and to score. Seattle kept Carolina
winless thirty seven to twenty seven. Kansas City got a
forty one to ten victory over Chicago, and then there
was a Miami game final score seventy to twenty against Denver.
Rookie running back Devon A. Chane eighteen carries two hundred

(25:41):
three yards, and wide receiver Jalen Waddell did not play
due to the concussion he took in the illegal hit
last game at New England. The Dolphins, according to stat Zinc,
the first NFL team since the nineteen fifties to score
at least fourteen points in every quarter of a contest.
First team since the championship that the Detroit Lions won.
That's how long ago. Of course, it's right, it's a

(26:03):
separate topic, but Detroy has only won one playoff.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Game since nineteen fifty seven.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
Dolphin's one of the rare teams to have a player
score four touchdowns Raheem Moster another score at least three
touchdowns a chain. It's just crazy, crazy offensive numbers. Meanwhile,
New Orleans and Derek Carr were up seventeen to nothing
at Green Bay early fourth quarter, Carr injures his right
shoulder on a sack. Green Bay comes back for an
eighteen seventeen victory. Saints rookie kicker Blake Groupie from Notre

(26:30):
Dame and missed a forty six yard field goal attempt
which just over a minute left. The Charger win at
Minnesota was twenty eight to twenty four. Austin Eckler running
back out again with the spranged ankle. Mike Williams left
with a knee injury. Mri Monday Charger safety Derwin James
left with a hamstring injury. Keenan Allen eighteen receptions two
hundred and fifteen yards in the Charger road win, a

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road win in overtime for the Colts at Baltimore twenty
two to nineteen. Zach Moss got thirty carries for one
hundred and twenty two yards. Victories for Cleveland and Houston.
For Detroit and New England. Buffalo won at Washington thirty
seven to three, NASCAR victory for William Byron at Texas.
Bryceon Deshambo took the Livegulf event in Chicago. As for

(27:13):
baseball tonight, the Atlanta Braves are playing two after the
wet weather in DC. Nationals took the opener three to two,
but the Braves are winning the nightcap six to four.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
In the six.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Dodgers, Giants tied two to two in the six one
week left in the regular season. Philadelphia had won four
games in a row they started because of weather their
game later this afternoon. They've just finished off a wi
in over the Mets of five to two. Cubs in Miami,
each one at home Reds as well. The Cubs lead
for the final NL wildcard spot, still one game over Miami,

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two and a half up on the Reds, and Colorado
is out of the college football Top twenty five. The
top three stayed the same at AP Georgia, Michigan, Texas,
Ohio State moved up to number four, Florida State number five.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Now the Pac.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
Twelve conference has four teams in the top ten for
the first time in its history. Just the last couple
of weeks it had eight out of the top twenty five,
but Colorado's now out. UCLA lost a low scoring game
at Utah, yet Bruins are out of the top twenty five.
This Saturday on Fox TV noon Eastern Time, number eight
USC at Colorado.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Back to you, I have a feeling that the ratings
will be good for that one between USC and Colorado.
And I just want to say this out loud, even
though because it's along the lines of what you're talking about,
Steam you Dub. Tell me if there's been a college

(28:39):
football team that's looked like it's just a look, but
that's looked better than Washington so far this year.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Last night they had a pick six and then a
punt return for a score, So they were up fourteen
to nothing before the offense took the field. And they
have a great quarterback and he hadn't even touched the
ball yet and they're up fourteen. Zi crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
No one's yeah, no one's talking about I mean some people,
but no one with with all the other quarterbacking stuff
going on in that conference. Yeah, Washington State j Yeah,
Pennis Jr. Not getting the love that that he absolutely.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I believe.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
In three weeks the same day that USC plays at
Notre Dame is Washington Oregon. If I'm not mistaken looking
to some very good Pack twelve matchups.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
There's some very good stuff, no doubt. All right, great stuff, Steve.
We'll talk to you again very soon. We're live in
the Tirack dot Com studios. It's alongside Kyle Rudolph Mark
Willard here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Uh, we're
talking about Brandon Staley, the Viking situation. There are a
few teams where I'm already ready to throw my hands

(29:44):
up and just go, what do you what.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Do you do? What? What do you do?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
With the Chicago Bear situation, Kyle, I like, Justin Fields
looks like he's going the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
He just does not look comfort on the field. I
can't think that it's just him.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
There's something in the marriage between him and that coaching staff.
I'm not saying it's one side's fault. I don't think
anybody with that franchise is doing a good job. And
I know that what they had today was among the
toughest things to do in the NFL, which is go
to Arrowhead and play Patrick Mahomes. But good grief, if

(30:27):
you watch it, if you just if you watch it,
it's like, oh man, it's so inept, it's so disconnected
everything out there. It just feels like the heart of
they're trying the further away they're getting well.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
I think the biggest thing is there's zero indication of improvement.
They haven't built on any of the success that they
had last year with Justin under center. You watch them
play and you know it's either I've said this the
first two weeks, it's either a handoff to the running

(31:05):
back or drop back pass. Like, we're not doing any
of these things that Justin excels at to make him
comfortable throughout the course of the game. You know, some
of the best play callers that I was ever around.
You go through the first fifteen the night before the game,
and you see plays, oh, easy completion, easy completion, quick

(31:28):
game keeper, get him out of the pocket, move him around,
and then you go out and all of a sudden, boom,
he's four of six on the first drive, and he's
got a feel for the game, and just as he
said in his press conference, he can play like himself.
He doesn't have to be robotic. He's not thinking, he's
not trying to process too much information. And you know,

(31:52):
so for me personally, I have a connection to this staff.
The quarterback coach was one of my position coaches a
few years ago, a guy named Andrew Genoko, who I
just think is a phenomenal football coach. I actually had
my best statistical year in the NFL the year that
he was my position coach, and I I will in
large part give him the credit for the way that

(32:15):
he prepared me that year, you know, each and every week,
helping me so that I could go out there and
be comfortable. So when when I watch Justin's press conference
and I'm hearing about you know, the coaching and the
you know, the too many voices in my head letting
me play, you know, I ultimately have to feel like

(32:37):
it's this three party system with like, what's the offensive
coordinator saying? Who's not in the quarterback meetings? You know,
what is he coaching when they're in the offensive room?
You know, maybe what's the head coach saying? What does
the head coach want this to look like? And you know,
so for me personally, I would love to see Andrew
Andrew Genoko's fingerprints on this a little more. I know

(33:01):
what he's done for me personally. I saw success that
he had he was Kirk Cousins quarterback coach before he
went to Chicago last year, and Kirk had phenomenal years
under him as well. So I know Andrew as a coach,
I know him as a teacher. He's also a guy
that you know, he played college ball. He's a football

(33:21):
guy like he can relate to younger guys. You know,
we were both twenty six years old the year that
he was my position coach, and I never felt more
comfortable in that room day in and day out, because
you know, I felt like I was just around a
peer who had my best interest at mine, and that's
oftentimes not the case with coaching players. So you know,

(33:41):
like I said, that's the biggest thing that frustrates me
is there's there's no indication of what's our identity.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Going to be, what are we improving on?

Speaker 5 (33:51):
You come out, you know, fro from thirty whatever down
at halftime thirty five thirty four zip, and we don't
do anything to start the second half. I think they
turned the ball over right away, and it's like, what
did you just go in and talk about at halftime?
Are we gonna do anything to make this young quarterback

(34:15):
have some sense of comfort and build confidence throughout the
course of drives, throughout the course of games.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, it's a really, really bad look. And you know
how I feel. I've stated a lot about year three
for a quarterback in a system, and that's Trevor Lawrence,
it's Zach Wilson, it was Trey Lance who got traded.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's Mac Jones, and it's just in fields.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And while you'll hear people say, well, hold on a second, right, like,
let the guy grow and let's see what he can
do with this coach and with these position players around
him and in this system. You'll hear that, and then
other players pop into the league and just blow up
all of those ideas. And someone is doing that right

(35:01):
now in the league. Who will talk about coming up
next along with Kyle Rudolph on Mark Willard on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, we're live ty Rak dot com Studios,
Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph Raiders on the board first, they
go forward on fourth, an inch is Jimmy g up
over the top to DeVante Adams and Vegas is on

(35:24):
the board first against the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
We'll keep you up to date on that. Look.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I'm fully aware there are different situations. Kyle right, the quarterbacking,
all positions, everything in life for that matter, is at
least affected by what is around you. You need good people,
you need good coaching, you need just you need stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You need stuff to help.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You do whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing, so that
can go both ways. I do think you could be
a good quarterback stuck in a bad spot, or maybe
you're a quarterback who's helped by what's around you. I'm
not sure yet if that's what's happening. But when I
look at the Zach Wilsons of the world, the Trey Lances,
and now the Justin Fields quite frankly even mac Jones

(36:10):
as well, that offense feels very, very limited. When I
look at those guys who are going into year three
and I think that it's like, if it hasn't worked
by then, then something's wrong.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And when people go.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hold on slow your role, don't be thinking about the
word bust yet, like we're not there yet. It's very
early in their career. And then poof CJ. Stroud walks
into the league and goes watch this. I haven't been
playing for three years. I've been playing for three games
and made history. With over nine hundred yards through the

(36:51):
air and this guy has yet to throw an interception,
goes into Jacksonville today, blows out the Jaguars. To me,
it kind of dispels this idea that that you can't
sort of see it right away when when when someone

(37:12):
just has that it quality.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
No, I definitely think you can see it right away
when when someone has that it factor.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
And you know, CJ.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Stroud certainly has played really really good, consistent football through
the first three weeks. You know, they got their first
win to show for it today. Felt like he played
really solid the last two weeks, not ultimately getting wins,
but goes down there in Jacksonville gets the win today,
And I think again it's you have to look situation

(37:41):
by situation. And you know, do I feel like, can
you label a player a bust if they're not reaching
their potential by year three?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
No, I don't think that's fair. I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
You know, it's wave the white flag, you know, the
sky's a bust.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
We got to move on.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
But there has to be you know, we just talked
about this a lot with justin Fields. You have to
have indication of improvement. We have to see things going
in the right way. If that third year quarterback is
still making the same mistakes and doing the same things
that they were doing in year one or year two

(38:23):
that have gotten their team's beat or put them in
situations to not have success to turn the football over. Ultimately,
then it's like, okay, now we might have, as we
label it, a bust on our hands, because yeah, as
he had the time to fully grow and develop.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Maybe not.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
You know, I do think you can give a guy
more than three years. But it's like, are we progressing
in the right direction or are we seeing the same
thing time in and time out? And then ultimately you say, look, yep,
it's time to move on, which, as we know, the
forty nine Ers did and it's working out for him.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, just to keep people up to date, and Steve
will have more on this in about seven or eight minutes.
But Kenny Pickett long play seventy two yards to Calvin
austin the third and just like that, the Steelers have
even things back up in Vegas and Sunday night football
it's seven to seven.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Look, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I really don't like using the word bust until things
quite frankly are over.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I mean, I'm like late that.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's like to me, that's like JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf,
like it's over.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
The career is over and we can go. That was
a bust.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I don't know where these young guys careers are are
going to go, so I won't use that word yet,
but I am comfortable with predictions in sports media, and
I made that prediction last week that the Trevor Lawrence
is going to be the only one of the five
that gets a big second contract. I don't like where
that's going. But this is more about CJ. Stroud and

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the way that he started his career, and it looks
absolutely fantastic. The record, by the way, first player in
NFL history after three games in his first three games
to have nine hundred yards, at least four touchdown passes,
and zero interceptions.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So really really good stuff there.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
All right, there's another team who has shown itself already
this year to be a major concern.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
We'll get to that coming up next.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
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Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, fresh off of his own retirement celebration in Minnesota,
Kyle Rudolph this evening here on Fox Sports Radio Minnesota
was unable to put a victory on top.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
But all in all, Wow, I would say this, this
was a very good day to be a tight end.
It's a very very good.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Day across NFL circles to be a tight end. Some
of you had celebrations in your honor, others had Taylor
Swift show up in your with your family. Not bad,
Not a bad day to be a tight end, mister Rudolph.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Not a bad day at all. You know, we got
National tight End coming usually in October, but it certainly
looked like Week three was National tight End Day for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I'm glad it's all out in the open, you know.
I mean everyone thought the internet would break. I don't
know about yours. Minus still working fine. But finally we
can stop dealing with the izzy and is she and
this and that and if what and yet no, yes
they are, they're dating. And Taylor Swift was at the
Chiefs game today. Although I will say this, as we

(41:54):
were sitting there talking about the Bears a few minutes ago,
is there any larger in dt of a team in
that Fox left its national number one game with its
top broadcast team.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It left that game with Taylor Swift in the in
the stands.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
It left that game to go to Arizona for a
Cardinals football game. I understand the Cowboys were there, but
I think it's a perfect end to maybe the worst
week I've ever seen a football team have in what
happened with the.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Bears this week.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Definitely a tough week there, and you know, certainly I
thought it was incredible listening to Patrick Mahomes press conference
after the game saying that he actually felt pressure to
get Trev a touchdown today to please all the Swifties
out there in the world. So, you know, we had
talked about that Chiefs offense a little bit last week
and saying, you know, are you worried does Travis Kelce

(42:56):
really make that big of a difference. You know, they
seem to always figure it out, and it's like when
things are going bad for you, things just seemed to
go worse. And here are the Chicago Bears trying to
figure out, how do we win football games? Can we
improve our offense, can we start playing a little bit
of defense? We paid all these free agents on the

(43:16):
defensive side of the ball, and we have to go
play the Kansas City Chiefs who are trying to figure
it out in their own right and they have forty
one on you. So definitely a tough week to be
a Chicago Bear.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I'm I'm glad you brought up Patrick mahomes press conference
and his Taylor swift comments because we have those and
here they are.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Do you realize how much pressure there was on you
today from the Swifties to get Travis Kelce a touchdown
with Taylor in the house today?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, I heard that.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I heard she was in the house.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Do you feel it?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Did you feel the pressure? Patrick?

Speaker 7 (43:47):
I thought a little bit of pressure, and so I
knew how to get it to Trev And of course
it was on a route that Travis he does his
own thing and just makes up a round and not
throw it to him. So I think he wanted to
get in the end up just as much as all
the Swifties wanted them to.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
There it is Patrick Mahomes and somewhere in there again,
I get it like there was no other way to
answer that. But if you're a Bears, defensive player. After
the week you've had, How do you like this? On
your way out of Arrowhead Stadium? The Chiefs not like, yeah,
schematically we're trying to beat the Bears, Like, no, we're

(44:23):
looking for Trav because the Swifties are here.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah, because we had to please the Swifties and the
pressure that they were under to get Trap a touchdown.
But I will say, like watching the play, it's one
of my all time favorite low red zone plays, especially
when you have a tight end like Trav that can
go up and catch the ball but also has this
savviness of a route runner. So absolutely love the play call.

(44:46):
It's an Andy Reid staple I was fortunate to have
in my offense for a long time as Pat Shermer
came over from that Andy Reid tree, and it's just
it was one of my all time favorite low red
zone calls. So certainly when I it was like almost
your go to It's like, Okay, if we have to
get Trevi a touchdown, what player are we going to call?
And you know, it works out really well when you

(45:08):
have Patrick Mahomes sitting back there and has all the
confidence in the world that you know he said it
I'm not really sure what Trav's going to do, but
I know he's going to get open, and you know,
he delivers the ball to him in the back half
of the end zone for the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I will say this though, Kyle, I actually have good
news for Bears fans and that I don't think that
you are the most demoralized team in the NFL right now.
There's one that I think, if you really look at it,
deeper has got your beat. More on that in a second.
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Speaker 3 (46:03):
They gave up seventy points. Kyle.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
I'm say I know you were going with that, and
there's also good news for both the Bears and the
Broncos coming out of this week yes, yeah, no where
we're going forty one one gave up seventy. But they
play each other next week.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
So's gonna win.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
The Broncos and the Bears will battle it out. Someone
will get their first win next week and hopefully build
some sort of confidence heading out of the first quarter
of the season.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, except for no matter what happens next week, And
my friend, the Bears are still employing a quarterback on
a rookie deal, and the Broncos are paying well over
two hundred million guaranteed dollars to a guy who just
does not look like he's got the juice anymore. And

(46:56):
and it's it's subtle some of the time, Like there
were games last year where Russell Wilson was like, I've
never scratched my head harder with it with a future
Hall of Fame player, and like what happened like decision
making stuff, not physical stuff, and it was really really
odd and confusing to me. And then there was the

(47:19):
offseason hope of hey, get healthy, Sean Payton is here,
super Bowl winning offensive mind as the head coach. This
is going to fix Russ And it's been more subtle.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
He threw for three hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It wasn't like he's out there throwing picks right and left.
But I can tell you, man, I watched the game
and it's just it's off. It's a step slow. The
accuracy and the timing still aren't there, and they're owing
three and that contract is not going anywhere any time soon.

(47:59):
And you know, what on earth do you do if
you're the Denver Broncos. The Browns might be facing something
like this as well, but not a great day for
it because Deshaun probably had his best day as a Brown.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
But man, the Broncos look to.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Be the most stuck team in the NFL right now.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Well, and to me, I just think about the amount
of time that Sean Payton and Drew Brees spent together
over all the years that they were quarterback, head coach,
play caller. And you go to you know, first, you
take a year off, you're in the media. Then you
go to a team you inherit a quarterback on a

(48:41):
massive contract who didn't play as well as the organization
would have liked, as he personally would have liked, and
you're tasked with fixing him. You need to get him
back to this Hall of Fame level quarterback that we
had seen for so many years in Seattle and it's
Broncos fans aren't going to want to hear this. I

(49:02):
know certainly George Payton, the GM in Denver's not going
to want to hear this. But you know, how much
of a catchup is there? Like, how can Russell just
be expected to say, Hey, I want you to know
all these things that Drew new from fifteen years together
in New Orleans? How does that happen over the course
of three games or one season? How much time will

(49:26):
they get together for us to ultimately see that? So
you know, you mentioned Cleveland Browns potentially being another team
in that situation, and you know, Cleveland was a team
after Week one, you know I was talking about as hey.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
They go, as Nick Chubb goes.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Their defense played really really good against the Bengals. You know,
they could be one of those you know, we're talking
about all these AFC powerhouse teams and hey, Cleveland could
be a team that sneaks around and surprises some people.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
And then to.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Sean played the way that he played last week, it's
you know, what's wrong with DeShawn? You know, where's this
guy that we saw for so many years in Houston,
you know, and then he comes out this week with
no Nick Chubb, and you know, maybe that's kind of
what he needed. Like, hey, look, we don't go as
he goes. Now, I have to take the bull by
the horns here and go lead this offense to score
some points and get us a win. So, you know,

(50:21):
maybe that's what they needed. As far as Denver goes,
maybe it's the Chicago Bears come into town.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
You know, who knows.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
You know, we'll just have to see next week if
if that's what can maybe spark this offense get Russell
some confience. Russell was a guy for so many years
in Seattle. I felt like we played him every year
when I was in Minnesota, and no matter what the
score was, what the situation was, you're like, man, this
guy is just gonna find a way. He seems to
do it every single time. You know, you look at

(50:48):
the super Bowl in Arizona. Ultimately they throw the interception
late in the game, but it was like he made
so many plays to out of the course that the Super
Bowl to get him down there in that situation where
it's just like holy cow, you know, the ball just
seems to always bounce Russell's way. It always seems to
find the receiver. And as you mentioned last year, the

(51:09):
first three weeks of this year, you're just not really
seeing that magic from him just yet.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh believe me, as somebody who has followed the forty
nine ers for years. It was the stuff that nightmares
were made of. If Russell Wilson late in the game
on third down had the ball, just move the chains,
now forget it. You don't even like, why are we
even doing this, It's too painful to watch. Just move

(51:36):
the chains. He's gonna get the first down, he's gonna
get the touchdown, He's gonna get whatever he needs. That's
who he was and we did. We called it magic,
Russell Wilson magic. Well, the magic is gone. And the
other thing is it feels like such a FATA company
in that division. Like I sort of understood what the

(51:56):
Raiders were doing when they let Derek Carr go. They're like,
first of all, I don't know if at the time
they were thinking that Jimmy Garoppolo, who just threw a
very trademark interception, but I don't know if that's what
they were necessarily thinking. But if they can get what
is probably similar level play for about half as much

(52:17):
and shorten up the contract, keep the flexibility. We'll see
what we're gonna do at QB next. I'm like, why
wouldn't you do that? Derek Carr over any long haul
is never going to beat Patrick Mahomes. Justin Herbert feels
like he's got the ability to. The stats are absolutely
insane this year. But as they say, the Chargers always charger,

(52:42):
and they were one play away from being zero and
three themselves.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
And so the Broncos sit here with all of this investment.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
In a guy who feels like Kyle, I don't even
know how this team finishes second place over the next
five years, let alone first. And so that that's why
they they get my award for being the team right now.
That's not just on the down side, but it's going
to take the longest for them to turn it around.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Yeah, I mean, just being in that division. You mentioned that,
the quarterbacks on the other three teams, and certainly having
Patrick Mahomes, who's not going anywhere in Kansas City, having
Justin Herbert in Los Angeles with the Chargers. Just sign
that huge contract, the second biggest in NFL history, and

(53:33):
it's it's hard. You know, you're you're competing in a
division where, like you said, realistically, you're kind of just
competing for third place. It's it's you and the Raiders.
Who's who's going to come in third place out of
the four teams in that division? And how do you
how do you get Russell back some of that magic
that he had to where you know, I think back

(53:53):
to some of those NFC West divisions back in the
day with the San fran teams, with the Arizona of teams.
As the Rams got to LA and started to play
really really good football, that was a really really hard division.
But you knew with Russell in Seattle, you always had
a chance to compete in that division. It didn't matter

(54:13):
who the other quarterbacks were in the division or the
talent that the other teams in the division had, because
like we've said multiple times, Russell seemed to always have
that magic and if you just got on the ball
late in the game, he was going to find a
way to get down the field and score whatever gets
you a field goal, get you a touchdown, And we're

(54:34):
not seeing it right now.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Is there a way to get that back?

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Is that why Sean Payton was brought there absolutely, but
how long is that going to take? And how long
are the Denver Broncos going to wait to see can
we get Russell Wilson to play like Drew Brees And
how long is that process going to take.

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Speaker 3 (56:17):
I think a good time to say that.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Listen. I know you are too. We've talked about it
a little bit. I'm a huge fan of Kyle Shanahan.
I call myself even a Shanna fan, and he got
a contract extension along with John Lynch this week with
the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
It's not lost on me that the.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Two football teams who have looked the healthiest, because even
when you and I talked last week in the NFC,
you kind of set apart the forty nine Ers and
the Cowboys from the Eagles and the way they've started.
And I know the Bucks are also two and zero.
We'll see how real that is. The Bucks and Eagles

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play tomorrow night, so the undefeated ranks will lose another
team and there will only be three left, which is
the winner of that game, and then the Shanahan tree,
which is the forty nine ers, and the Miami Dolphins,
which is yet another. Like that tree, it grows and
it grows and it grows. Right Mike McDaniel there in Miami,

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Robert Sala from the defensive side is with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Nice win today.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Demico Ryans first as a head coach in Houston, and
you see what's happening with CJ.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I think that this is and there are always the
coaching trees out there, from Walsh to Parcels and Belichick.
This to me is the next big tree because when
you see not just three and zero records, but you
see the offensive production that's happening, and quite frankly from

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two quarterbacks who people largely don't want to put on
the elite level, yet their numbers say they are.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Well. I think it's a lot of both. I think
two is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I think brock Perty's fantastic, But I also think Kyle
Shanahan and Mike McDaniel they know how to draw up
a dang play.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
No question about it. I mean, two of the best
offensive mines in the game. I'd go as far as
saying in a long time, not just right now, not
just currently in the NFL. You think about the decades
and decades of offensive football and systematic nature. You talk
about coaching trees, and you know, the West Coast offense

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and different offenses throughout the course of time, and what
we've seen. I think Andy Reid has done an unbelievable
job at the way he's evolved his offense over the
last twenty years or so. But what you see from
Kyle Shanahan and really all of the offensive coaches, I mean,

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they're all over the place in the NFL, all these
play callers, all these head coaches. You see the offensive
numbers that they put up, the statistics, the quarterback play,
they just they have an unbelievable way of running the
football in an extremely efficient way, an unbelievable scheme that

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quite honestly, it doesn't matter who the back is. That
back is going to be most likely a thousand yard
back in those offenses. And then you see really really
efficient quarterback play. And you mentioned the two three and
oh teams, the Dolphins and the Niners and their quarterbacks
and the quarterback play that you know, nobody wants to

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give them the credit because everybody wants to say, oh, well,
the offense, you know, it's the system, it's the players
around them, and yeah, ultimately that helps. But I don't
know any system quarterbacks that score seventy points in an
NFL game seventy. I saw that score and thought it

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was a misprint from from a college game yesterday. If
you hit fifty in the NFL, it's like, holy cow,
they went to seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Right, nice throwing, no look passes, shovel passes out there.
I mean, they're having fun. And I just like I
get into this argument a lot, and I don't know why,
Like there there isn't enough credit seemingly to go around.
Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel are fantastic play callers. They

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also have built nice weaponry.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
The Dolphins receiving core, although they were without Waddle today,
is fantastic. The forty nine ers receiving cores, although it
was without Brandon Aiyuk, is fantastic. But I just don't
think that quarterbacking in the NFL. I think it's so hard.
I don't think you have these sustained ten fifteen game

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runs where you're like rated over one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
You don't turn the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Ball over nearly at all, and all of that is
supposedly a product of your surroundings.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
That's just me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I've never played, but I don't think that exists like that.
To me, that makes it sound too easy, as if
Kyle shanahan's a coach or McDaniel's the coach, and I
got a Tyreek over here and a Debo over there
and a McCaffrey behind me, and I can just be
a guy. I don't think that exists.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
I want to give you a statistic from the Miami
game that I just saw, and it really puts these
things into perspective from quarterback play. And you know, I'm
going to include Mike White just because he went in
the game and he was two for two and threw
a touchdown, and it helps my argument here. The ball
hit the ground two less times than the Dolphins quarterbacks

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through touchdowns today. They threw five touchdowns and had three
incompletions and two specifically had oh my god, three incompletions
and threw four touchdowns. So the ball hit the ground
less in the past game today than it went into
the end zone for touchdowns by two times. That's that's

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unheard of. That that's high school playing against the you know,
the extremely outmatched crosstown rival. If you would type numbers
and they put them up in an NFL game, insane.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
It's absolutely looking at it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yeah, Mike White was actually rated higher than to it today.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
We'll tell you that sixty touchdowns are good. Gonna give
you a good rating.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah, yeah, pretty good stuff. No man, I I I
think that they're they're really interesting. And in the AFC,
which all of us were talking about before the year, going,
my gosh, what an embarrassment of riches with Mahomes and
Allen and Burrow, ad In Rogers, Lamar's back, ready to go,

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all signed up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
We think Trevor.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Lawrence is going to take a leap and let's see
what DeShawn can do. That was kind of the vibe,
like all of a sudden three weeks later. I don't
I don't think people would laugh if you if you
called the Miami Dolphins a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
No question.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I think you know, we had talked about how difficult
that division is in the AFC East, and you know,
you look at the way things are starting to shake out,
and you know, Buffalo certainly seems like they've solidified themselves.
It's like, hey, guys, don't don't forget about us. You
know we yeah, we may have dropped one there week
one on Monday Night Football nine to eleven anniversary in

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New York, but hey, you know we we've figured this out.
They've had back to back strong performances, went on the
road today and knocked off the two and O Washington
Commanders in Washington. And you know, you're starting to see
that Buffalo Bill's defense, that Sean McDermott defense. Shawn's now
calling the plays again, as as Leslie Fraser is no

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longer there, you're starting to see his fingerprint on things,
and you know, holding the Washington Commanders to three points,
looks like Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs are starting to
get back on the same page. You know, Diggs returning
to form over one hundred yards again today, And it's like, hey, yeah, yes,

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Miami is they're I mean, they have to be in
the conversation if you're talking about just Super Bowl contenders
three weeks into the season. I mean, it's it's got
to be them and the forty nine ers that I
don't I don't see any other argument through three weeks.
If you're if you tell me you have to pick
one team from the AFC, one team from the NFC.

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Last week I had mentioned Dallas in San fran being
kind of a little bit above everyone else the NFC.
Extremely unfortunate news out of Dallas this week and a
Thursday practice, you lose your best corner to a torn
Aco and then you go on the road and lose
that Arizona, And again I think, I don't people don't

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realize that kind of stuff like it. You say, oh,
you lost the guy at practice, you got to go
play the game. It doesn't matter. Well, you're already going
to play theoretically an inferior opponent. And then you have
something like that where you lose one of your key
guys for the season in practice. It plays a toll
in the locker room, and so they go and they

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drop one in Arizona this week. So you know, I
certainly would say if I'm picking a team from each
it's the Miami Dolphins and the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, I would love to actually explore that a little
bit further about how much of the shine comes off
of the Cowboys because of this week, But also, yeah,
when a key guy goes down, what kind of goes
through the emotions of the locker room. We can dive
into that coming up next, but let's dive into some
time with Steve de Seger. Get him in here, find

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out what's trending out and about Hello, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Hello.

Speaker 8 (01:06:12):
We will certainly be talking Dolphins in a couple minutes,
But can I just say, after you lose a game
seventy to twenty Denver did at Miami today, I personally
would call that embarrassment. It's like the Broncos spent so
much time trying to win the off season. Sean Payton,
Maybe that's just the Fox hat I've got on Right now,
Steelers are leading at Las Vegas ten to seven under

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five minutes to go in the second quarter. Chris Boswell
a forty three yard field goal in the second quarter
for the league. Can he Pickett earlier with a seventy
two yard touchdown pass. The Raider scoring came on a
fourth and inches touchdown pass of thirty two yards Jimmy
Garoppolo to DeVante adamsmid first quarter. Adam so far in
this first half seven catches ninety seven yards and a touchdown,

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but it's the Raiders trailing at home. At least within
think it's a home game ten to seven Pittsburgh. Yes,
Steelers fans do travel. We knew that in advance. It
is the case tonight' yes, especially Vegas. Yeah, exactly absolutely.
And you know some of the fans that can make
big time money selling off their Raider tickets. It's as
an American capitalist, it's kind of hard to argue.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
At least I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:21):
Arizona beat Dallas twenty eight sixteen in an upset. James
Connor on fourteen carries had ninety eight yards in a touchdown.
Carolina's oh and three after losing at Seattle the final
was thirty seven to twenty seven. And yes, the Bears
are oh and three after losing at Kansas City. In fact,
the Chiefs led forty one to nothing in the third
quarter forty one ten the final. So next Sunday we've

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got to Denver at Chicago. Get your tickets now. Also
next Sunday, it's Carolina hosting Minnesota, which is oh and three.
Lost at home to the Chargers twenty eight, twenty four
and Green Bay was down seventeen nothing second half and
still beat New Orleans eighteen seventeen quarterback Derek Carr injured
his right shoulder on a sack Miami three to zero

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after its win over Denver seventy to twenty. Rookie devon
Ah chain On eighteen Carries had over two hundred yards rushing,
and wide receiver Jalen Wattle was out did not play
due to his concussion to a tongue of I looa
four touchdown passes. Indian overtime won at Baltimore, victories for
Houston and Cleveland. Wins for Detroit and New England. Buffalo
won at Washington thirty seven to three this Saturday on

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Fox TV New in Eastern Time. Number eight USC at Colorado,
Colorado's out of college football's top twenty five NASCAR win
for William Byron at Texas. In baseball tonight at Dodger Stadium,
it is LA two to two with the rival Giants
in the top of the ninth. That's the last game going.
The Atlanta Braves did wind up finishing their double header
in DC and splitting the two games. Now a little

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more on the near history we had in the NFL.
Just stunning that a professional team allows seventy points in
a game Miami seventy to twelve the final. They had
over seven hundred yards of offense. And this is not
the Big twelve. This was the NFL Tonight. It is
one of the rare games in NFL history where a
team scores that much. Washington nineteen sixty six was the

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last seventy point game, apparently when they scored seventy two.
The nineteen fifty La Rams had a seventy point game,
and very famously, the Chicago Bears won the nineteen forty
NFL title Game, scoring seventy three, still the most lopsided
victory in NFL history because it was seventy three to
nothing at Washington. The stunning thing is those two teams

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had just played each other a few weeks earlier in
the regular season and the Bears lost seven to three.
They went from scoring three to seventy three against the
same opponent in the same stadium in the title game
nineteen forty with George Hallis's coach and Sid Luckman as quarterback.

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They also had eight interceptions in return three for touchdowns.
Teventy three nothing was the final in nineteen forty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Back to you great stuff, Steve Yeah So averaging about
thirty six a game.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
That's that's that's pretty good, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Maybe that's the most amazing thing, right, guys of this
one today, Like it's not just seventy points. It was
all on offense. There wasn't anything crazy that happened. It
wasn't like a bunch of block kicks that got returned
or any of that stuff. Like just absolutely wild, all
right back in the tyrack dot com studios, Mark Ward,

(01:10:34):
Kyle Rudolph, Okay, I think a lot of people were
starting to point to week five Cowboys Niners, four and
oh four to ozho, that's not gonna happen now. I
do still think it'll be four and versus three and one.
Cowboys host New England. Last next week, forty nine Ers
host the Cardinals, although the Cardinals clearly are at least

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a little bit better than we thought they were. But
I wonder what you think, Kyle, Like, how much of
the Cowboys shine comes off with the one two punch
of losing a game to the Cardinals and combine that
with Trayvon Diggs no longer being available.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Well, I think losing Trayvon Diggs takes off a lot
more of the shine than dropping a game in the
Desert to the Arizona Cardinals. I think one of the
things that excited me most about this Cowboys defense as
opposed to maybe the Cowboys defense in the last few
years that, yeah, they played really well in the regular season,

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you know, down the stretch, ultimately couldn't get the job
done come playoff time. Was the addition of Stefan Gilmore
opposite Trayvon Digs And what it's like when you, yeah,
you take away one side of the field and you
know that that quarterback isn't going to attack Trayvon. If
he does with his ball skills most of the time

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he makes the quarterback pay for it. But what do
you do on the other side. You are going to
go after Stephan Gilmourt, extremely experienced, played in a lot
of big games, a ton of playoff experience, Super Bowl experience.
What he brought to that defense opposite Trayvon, And now
you lose the cornerstone, You lost the first piece of

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that puzzle and your best cover guy on defense. So
I think that takes off more of the shine than
the loss in the Desert. You know, Ultimately, I would
look for them to bounce back this week with the
Patriots coming to town. You know, sometimes you had those
games where we don't play as well as maybe you hope,
and you know, it kind of refocuses you and gets

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you back locked in the following week. But I definitely
would say that the injury takes way more shine off
of that Cowboys team than the loss.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
I agree with you, and I also wonder to what
level they are connected. In other words, the hangover of
what happens a few days ago was that still with
the Cowboys out on the field today. We can get
to that coming up next with Kyle Rudolph Mark Willard
Week three National Football League from Cover to Cover tonight
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Tyre rec dot Com Studios.

(01:13:10):
Hold your breath moment in uh in Las Vegas is
Jimmy Garoppolo just got that classic sort of bent in half.
He's already up and walked off the field, So I
think it's optimistic. But man, especially with that guy's lower
body history, that's a that's a hold your breath moment.

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And then also just you know, just because that just
looked really that looked uncomfortable. If you ever had one
of those, Kyle, like you had to him right where
the feet get caught underneath and then the rest of
you starts going a different direction.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Yeah, I've got a couple of ropes in my right
ankle from one of those, so definitely you hate to
see it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Oftentimes it is like where you saw their kind of TJ.
Watts making the sack and then his body weight goes
to the one side and just a foot gets stuck
in the grass. So we can't blame this one on turf.
That one was was on the grass, and you just
you hate to see it. It looks like the mechanism
for a high ankle spring. It's about as prototypical as

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you could see from from the replay there. He looks
like he's walking pretty good, trying to shake it off.
He looks like you have both of his ankles tape prior.
Obviously you mentioned his lower body history with his feet
and ankles. But yeah, he looks like he's walking around
and may have dodged a bullet there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah no, no, no medical tent situation for for Jimmy here.
But but but a good time to continue the conversation
we're having, like this is a completely different sport. But
you know, following the teams I follow here in the
in the Bay Area, there's a very famous year and
it led to a change in rules. It's actually called

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the Buster Posey rule at home plate, with you know,
the inability to uh to plow through the catcher because
the year after the Giants won their first World Series,
which was in twenty ten, that group, at least in
twenty eleven, Buster got hit at the plate by a

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player on the Marlins and it broke his ankle, and
the Giants lost almost every game for the next week
and a half. And it had nothing to do with baseball,
and it had nothing to do with the fact that, yeah,
sure one of their best players wasn't in there. I
think it had everything to do with the fact that
they just had a huge lump in their throat. They

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knew they were up a creek, they knew their season
was probably over.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Their guy was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
And I wonder if that was on the field today
for the Dallas Cowboys, because it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Wasn't all just about the corner play.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
James Connor was running wild and Josh Dobbs looked like
a very viable NFL quarterback today. And I just have
to think that the Dallas Cowboys, who are very talented.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I think it's a very good defense and still will be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
But they they showed up looking shaken and it has
to have been Trayvon Diggs well.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
And I think timing as well. Mark, you may think
about when the injury happened. We see injuries happen every
week watching games on Sunday, Thursday, Sunday, Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Night, Monday night.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
For the injury to happen on a Thursday practice, you know,
you're never expecting to lose someone, especially at this point
of the season. You know, may guys go down during
training camp practices early in the year here and there. Yes,
you always want to keep your guys healthy. But getting
into the heart of the season and losing one of

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your best players on a Thursday practice, that's demoralizing for
a team, and that is something that would carry over
to that Sunday's game. You know, losing a guy in
a game on a Sunday, and we see it all
the time. It happens all the time. It's in my opinion,
it's the most unfortunate part of the game that we
all played. But it happens, and you get over it,

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and you know you have to move on to next week.
Losing a guy that late in the week of a
preparation doesn't happen often and can really shake a roster well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
And I'd also say this, and this is solely you
know from talking to coaches through the years, there's a
reason that certain positions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Are played and paid the way they are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
So in other words, I don't need to tell anybody
about the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Everyone gets the importance.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
But also that left tackle and that elite pass rusher
and that elite corner that's one of those are the
highest paid spots on the field. We're moving toward top
wide receiver as well. But there's a reason for that.
And so I do think that there's the emotional side.

(01:17:54):
I do think there's the football side. You just spoke
to it. I think about ten to fifteen minutes ago,
like the Cowboys, they're still good. They were very good.
I still think they're very good. But I don't know
if they're going to function the same way without their
elite corner. Too many coaches have told me that that is.

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You know, if I said, hey, two or three things
that you'd want to start your roster with, that's on
the list, and so I don't know if the Cowboys
defense is going to function the same way that it
had been.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Well, I think the thing that gives them the best
chance to continue to function at a high level like
they did the first couple weeks of the year is
the rush. When you have guys like Micah Parsons, the
Marcus Lawrence getting after the quarterback. You've seen it time
and time again. I would argue that I'd rather have
an elite rusher than an elite cover guy because an

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elite rusher is going to make that cover guy's job
that much easier. He's not going to have to cover
as long he knows the ball has to come out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
I think about a lot of the great secondaries over
the last hire many years, and oftentimes there was always
a great front that went with it, and they knew
that we could play off of that front. So I'm
not all out on the Cowboys defense just because of
you know, Micah Parsons really more so than anyone else,

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and his ability to get after the quarterback. But I
think that gives this, you know, this defense hope that
you know, whoever is the next man up at the
corner position there playing opposite Stefan Gilmore. He knows that, Hey,
I got guys up front who can get after the quarterback,
so I don't have to cover all day out here,
and the ball's got to come out at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Oh, you're not wrong, You're You're absolutely not wrong like that.
Maybe there's a reason that that, like the Steelers and
the forty nine Ers don't go over the top with
paying an elite corner because they've got that elite edge
rusher who's making all the dbs a whole lot better. Okay,
it's Mark Willard and Kyle Rudolph here on Fox Sports

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good this guy is, but I do know this, he's
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I'll tell you about that coming up next.

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(01:21:05):
The way tire buying should be, Kyle, I'm not sure
how good he is. I'm not sure how good he's
going to be. I will say he looks viable, but
already what I think.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
We do know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
We do know that Jordan Love has a little bit
of that thing, you know what I mean. Some people
call it moxie. Some people call it just like a flare,
a flair for the dramatic. Sure, they suffered a come
from a head loss last week and he fell over

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while just trying to stand up behind the line. So
that was funny too, But you know, today that's a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
And I know Derek Carr got hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I know it was only eighteen points and all that stuff,
but engineering a seventeen to nothing comeback the way he
did the two points conversion, which was totally improvised. Jordan
Love is an interesting player so far this year.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Yeah, I think when you watch this Green Bay team.
When you watch Jordan Love now take over the reigns
of this offense and quite frankly, this entire organization, I
think everyone just assumed there would be a huge regression,
like Green Bay can't possibly get it right again. You know,

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they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. It's over
thirty years of excellence from an organization standpoint. As someone
who was in that division for ten years, you know,
dealing here and in year out with Aaron, knowing that
you were going to have to compete with with that
guy and that team that organization for a playoff spot,

(01:22:51):
I think everyone in the division kind of just exhaled
when Aaron left and figured, eh, well, we'll see what
Jordan Love has. We're not really worried about it anymore.
Let's look elsewhere in the division and see where that
competition will come from. And you got to give Jordan
Love credit because he kind of said, hold on a second,
you know, I'm going to show you otherwise. And through
three games, you got to like what you've seen from him.

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He gives this team a chance to win. He gives
this team a chance to make the playoffs. You know,
certainly you talked about last week coming in the game,
having a chance to lead the team down the field
and have that two minute drive to win the game.
Ultimately wasn't able to do it. But today, coming from
behind down seventeen points, scoring eighteen points in the fourth quarter,

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you know, that's big time for a young quarterbacks confidence.
That's big time for the guys in the locker room
who now they all knew Aaron would do it, but
now when you see Jordan in that situation leading the
team to victory, guys start to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Well, I tell you what, And I realized that some
of this might be hard for you to say with
a career as a Viking. Uh, but yeah, they're there.
There's some interesting stuff going on at the start of
this season for that team. Uh if people don't realize
how hamstrung the Packers were today. Uh, there was again

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no Aaron Jones there. There still has been no Christian
Watson in theory. Jordan Love has not played one game
with the guy who's supposed to be his number one receiver.
There was no Bacdiari like the offensive line was what
was challenged for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
So he's doing a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Of this with uh with with a lot of roadblocks
in his way, and as you said, like give the
Falcons all credit for what they did last week, but
this team is incredibly close to being three and oh
and then when you look at what's happened up and
down the division, I think the Lions are largely who
we thought they were going to be. They're they're they're

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relevant and and they are a factor here in the NFC.
I think that that's a playoff. But with the Vikings
coming off of a thirteen and four campaign and now
being zero to three, and the Bears being whatever the
heck that is, there's a window here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I think we all think the forty nine ers are
a playoff team. Someone's got to win the South. And
we think Philly and Dallas are playoff teams, and I
would say Detroit too. But after that, that leaves three
more slots that are really sort of up for grabs
for the Seattles and for you know, whether it's Washington
or the Giants Green Bay. To me, again, we're so early.

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They look to me like someone who might be able
to grab one of those spots.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
I agree with you, and I think you know, when
you look at this division. You mentioned Minnesota off to
a start that they didn't expect coming off of a
thirteen and four year last year, Chicago and their struggles,
I think it's very safe to say that Detroit is
is solid. You know, they're a team that's going to

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be competing for the division, certainly a playoff spot late
in the year, late December, early January. But when you
look at the NFC as a whole and we think
about you know, coming into today, the NFC South had
three undefeated teams. The two teams that played today lost.

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We'll see what the Bucks do tomorrow night against Philly
and a formal.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Opponent of Formidable Rush.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
You know, I'm really curious to see how that inexperienced
interior offensive line of the Bucks handles that front that
gave the Vikings so many problems last week on Thursday Night.
So it's like, Okay, how many teams out out of
those are legitimate? You know, you mentioned the top two
in the East with the Giants. You know, do the
Giants get things figured out, do they take a step

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back from last year? And then I really just think
the Seahawks are the only team out West outside of
the forty nine ers who look to be running away
with that division. But also, you know, the Rams, what
what are what are the Rams? They don't even have
their best weapon on offense yet yet Matthew Stafford is
making these rookies look like all pro wide receivers, breaking

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all kinds of records in the first two games. So
it's it's I think that second tier of NFC teams,
you know, we we we're starting to see who some
of these division winners and and your top wild card
teams are going to be. But what what are those
second tier NFC teams who have a chance at at

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getting in in those last couple of wildcard spots. I
think it's it's interesting, and there's there's a lot of
depth in that group as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Yep, yeah, I agree with you. The Rams, It'll be
interesting to see them tomorrow night. Don't know yet if
Joe Burrow is playing for the Bengals and and they're
so desperate. But the Rams quite frankly, have been largely
more often than not only a two game sample, but
more more impressive than not going to Seattle, shutting them
out in the second half, winning that game going away,
and they gave the Niners everything they could handle back

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in Week two, even though the forty nine ers ended
up winning that game. So I think they're still an
approve it stage and I look forward to seeing them
tomorrow night. I'll tell you, you know, you mentioned what you
said about Detroit. They have got to be thrilled. Thrilled
that not that they won today, but that they won
like one of these sort of slugout defensive type affairs.

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Twenty six total points in the game. We already know
that Detroit's weapons and their style of play, they're able
to put up thirty plus points in a game. Sometimes
the other team does too, though, and that's similar to
what happened to them last week against Seattle. But for
them to go to Kansas City and win a game
with only twenty one points and today to win a

(01:28:53):
game by double digits with only twenty points, to me,
that's that sign of sort of like organization shuttle growth
that that makes them the factor that they are in
the NFC.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Yeah, and I think when you think about the mentality
of the Detroit Lions, you know, we know how the
Atlanta Falcons have to win games in the style that
they play with. Then you just have to imagine that
all week long. Dan Campbell was like, there's no way
this team is going to come in here and just
run the football all over us and you know, out

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physical our defense and bully us around. It's just it's
not the nature of that head coach, and it's certainly
his identity has seemed to radiate throughout the entire team,
and you just you just knew that there's no way
Atlanta was going to go in there and win the
games that win the game the way that they had
the first two weeks. We all know the way that

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Atlanta has to play in order to put themselves in
position to win football games. And I just feel like
that's that's against everything Dan Campbell believes in when he
wakes up in the morning, as having another team come
in and just physically dominate them running the football time
in and time out. So you know, you look at
the stats and they held the Falcons to forty four

(01:30:09):
yards rushing. So you imagine sitting in those team meetings
all week, you know, Dan Campbell was up there just
preaching the importance of stopping the run, making Desmond Ritter
drop back and throw the football to beat you. So
it is encouraging because I feel like every time we've
talked about the Detroit Lions and what is their weakness,

(01:30:29):
it's the defense and the ability to stop people when
you need it, And they did that today holding the
Falcons to six points.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Well, and I mean consistency, right, I think that that's
like what you're looking for. There are a lot of
things in sports that upon arrival were like, Wow, we
love this, you know, I mean messy this year, Dion
Sanders is just like Ie popping your enthralled new fans.
Everything's going crazy. And I'm not saying that can't last.

(01:31:01):
There are things that are amazing that that stand the
test of time. But what you want, I think after
that big sort of wow factor or that landing, Dan
Campbell walks in and we're biting kneecaps and everything becomes
really funny with the press conference. But after a while,
what you want is for when that dies down, that

(01:31:23):
initial sort of pop are are you just there?

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Are you there as a.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Quality outfit that can produce something viable on a week
and a week out basis, And every time something that's
new pops, that's sort of the question. After all the
excitement dies down, what's left. And I really feel like
last year, from biting kneecaps to hard knocks, everything died
down and what do we have.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
You get a pretty good football team.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
That's what you got, especially the second half of last year.
Initially you had a one in seven football team and
it was like, Okay, this whole biting kneecaps mentality. It
may have worked in you know, the the eighties and
early nineties with Bill Parcells, and you know, it's it's
not today's game. You know, the whole basketball on grass

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seems to win, the tempo that the game has played,
the rules that are now enforced. I did that style
can't work anymore. But we talked about this a lot
earlier in the show about indication of improvement with quarterbacks,
and I think that can be said for teams as
a whole as well. Like when when you see a
team that is starting to encompass the identity of their

(01:32:38):
head coach and you're seeing improvement from you know, year
one to year two, specifically the second half of year two,
they were a really good football team. On the back
half of last year that was, you know, a game
away from from making the playoffs. And then what do
they do from last year to this year and taking

(01:32:58):
another step forward. Jared Goff's playing unbelievable football under center
for them that we all know the offense and the
explosiveness that the offense has, and you're starting to see
consistent improvement on the defensive side of the ball, starting
to get stops when you need, giving yourself a chance
to not have to win forty eight forty five tight games.

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Going out and winning twenty to six against a different
style offense, a different mentality offense. Quite honestly, an offense
that's just going to come test your toughness all day
long is encouraging for that Detroit Lions defense and team
as a whole.

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(01:34:18):
Fox Sports Radio. All right, We're in the Tirereck dot
Com Studios. That's Kyle Rudolph, I'm Mark Whillard. In one quarterback.
I just read a quote, I read a postgame quote
that we're gonna, oh boy, we're gonna have to discuss
this one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
You know in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
You know this, Kyle, Like, it gets good fast and
it gets bad fast. And we're still in the month
of September, and there are certain teams and players already
just totally on the search. They look and they sound lost.
And that is the case with this particular quarterback. We'll
tell you who we're talking about here in just a

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little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Steelers continue to lead the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
They are now up by two scores third quarteraction, sixteen
to seven. By the way, something this is off subject,
but I want to ask you, hey, when did kickers
legs all end up like steroid it up? And I
mean that as a joke, but like Chris Boswell, a
few minutes ago, fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Yarder cleared the bar by at least.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Ten yards, and I'm like, yo, twenty years ago, no
one would have even tried that field goal. And now
you know, Indie today I think hit three or four
field goals of more than fifty yards.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
It is wild. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
I don't know what happened, but like a fifty five
yarder for a lot of these guys looks like an
extra point now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Just a chip shot.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
I mean, Matt Prater hit one from sixty two today
and you know he's not a spring chicken. He's been
kicking for a long time in this league and he
knocked on through from sixty two was nothing. I mean,
it's certainly an advantage you think about as an offense
where you have to get on the field knowing that
we already have three points in the bag. You know,

(01:36:12):
if your kickers knocking it into the net from fifty seven.
So we crossed the fifty and we're one first down
away from three points. I mean, that's that's such a
huge advantage from a play caller standpoint, and just you know,
a comfort level standpoint from the quarterback to know, hey,
you know all I gotta do is get us a
couple first downs here and we almost got three points.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
It's wild, man, that Colts Ravens game was played in
overtime for a while, like everyone was just trying to
get to the forty yard line so they could line
up a fifty eight yarder and for a few possessions,
nobody could do it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
It's just so nobody has been outg than Justin Tucker
on the other side, he barely have to cross the
fifty to put him in range.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Totally, although he missed one at the buzzer regulation that
was a little bit north of sixty yards and it
was online. It just didn't quite get there. But yeah, man,
it's wild. It's totally wild. But anyway, back to what
I wanted to ask you, when something's worked for a
long time but then feels sort of like it's run
its course. I'm not trying to run anyone out of town,

(01:37:17):
but I'll ask you like because I see it and
I feel it. It feels to me and maybe an
odd time to ask, because here the Steelers are on
Sunday Night football, up by nine points and they look
like they got a good shot to be two and
one here in an hour, but both Mike Tomlin and
Bill Belichick, it like, these are the guys. It's Super

(01:37:38):
Bowls and and they've been the standard bearers of the
AFC for so long. But something whether it's just searching
for a quarterback, I think it is that simple. But
when you don't have that guy, then it starts to feel.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Stale real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
And I hear a lot of Steeler fans are starting
to to chirp and bark, and so I wonder, what's
what's what's the right thing to do with these two teams,
knowing that it's it's been a minute and they don't
really look or feel like they're all that close either.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think you we we've talked about
Mac Jones and the regression that he had last year
and year two coming off of a you know, a
Playoff appearance and a Pro Bowl appearance as a rookie.
You know, certainly things have not looked the same in
New England since Tom Brady left and went to Tampa Bay.

(01:38:39):
So you have to look back, and you know, certainly
the combination of the two guys, both Bill Belichick and
Tom Brady, the success that they had over the two
decades together.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
In New England.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
And then also you look at Pittsburgh and the success
that both Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger had together. So
you know, you're looking at two first ballot Hall of
Fame quarterbacks that were there for you know, almost twenty
years and twenty years, and it was just you almost
take it for granted that, especially as a defensive head coach,

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when you have that guy on the other side who
just you know, week in and week out, you have
a chance to win the game no matter how you
play on defense, and if you go out and play
well on defense, you're going to win the game because
that guy's going to make sure that you always go
out and score seventeen points or more.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
Now both of these Hall of Fame head coaches are
stuck with young quarterbacks. You know, in Pittsburgh, certainly they
feel like they found their guy and Kenny Pickett and
had an incredible preseason, showed a lot of promise, a
lot of improvement from last year. And you know they're
just scored again to go up twenty three to seven

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here on Sunday Night Football, to move to move to
two and one, and again it kind of goes back
to the points we were making a little bit last
week on when winning the super Bowl is your ultimate
and only goal, when you're living in this gray area
of barely missing the playoffs, just making the playoffs, losing
in the first round, and not really ever competing for it.

(01:40:18):
It's so difficult because you know, what do you do,
What do you do at the head coach position, what
do you do at the quarterback position? If you feel
like you have your guy and that's where you're living,
you're just in this gray area.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
So it's it's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
But you know, at the same time, I look at
both of those coaches and the sustained success that they've had,
especially Mike Tomlin. I mean, to come in to the
NFL and never have a losing season, that's that's pretty incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
I mean, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:40:45):
Incredible, no matter who your quarterback is and what transition
the organization has gone through, and and those guys rightfully
so get to kind of dictate the terms well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
And by the way, they're they're a quarter away from
being in first place, which I know, doesn't you know,
it doesn't matter here in September, It doesn't matter after
Week three, by no say, you know, by no stretch,
am I suggesting there's any sort of hot seat here,
like these are made men. But we learned, we learned
a few years ago what the answer was to the

(01:41:17):
age old question of Brady or Belichick. We learned it
takes nothing away from Belichick. He's an amazing, amazing coach,
one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
This is already in ink.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
But yeah, give me the great quarterback more so than
the great coach. I saw what Phil Jackson looked like
when he finally coached without Kobe and Shaq and Michael
Jordan is very, very very good coach, but just not
quite the same, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:41:49):
Absolutely, And I don't think you'll ever find a head
coach and a good head coach who would say it differently.
I feel like every good coach I've ever been around,
their answer is always, well, I have good players, you know, Yes,
I need to put those good players in situations to
maximize their potential, to bring out the best in them,

(01:42:12):
to make them have the most success possible. But you'd
be very hard pressed to find an extremely successful head
coach who wouldn't say I had great players. It's just
kind of the nature of that position, and ultimately all
the really really good ones are saying the same thing
and saying, well, I was fortunate I had very good players.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
And so we'll see Kenny Pickett looks like a very
good player tonight. I know that it's very early and
it has not been the way the last couple of weeks.
All right, coming up in just a minute here the
quarterback quote that I need to read to you and
get a reaction because it sounds it sounds kind of lost,
and it sounds sort of retrospective.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
And we're only three weeks into the season. Moments away.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
But let's get Steve de Seger in here, find out
what's trending out and about Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Steve, Hello.

Speaker 8 (01:43:07):
About four minutes to go, third quarter in Vegas Pittsburgh,
twenty three seven over the Raiders. Las Vegas did have
a first quarter lead of seven nothing when they threw
the touchdown pass on a fourth in inches call Jimmy
Garoppolo thirty two yards to DeVante Adams. They haven't scored
since Adams. Doves have eight catches for one hundred and
fifteen yards, and that score in three quarters of play

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on the ground Josh Jacobs eleven carries thirty nine yards,
Jimmy Garoppolo the one TV and two interceptions, Now Steelers
quarterback Kenny Pickett with a touchdown pass of seventy two
yards and also now thirteen yards twenty three seven. Pittsburgh
leads on the road Seattle thirty seven twenty seven winners
against Carolina, although Adam Thielen now with the Panthers had

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eleven catches one hundred and forty five yards and a
touchdown Carolina oh and three Chicago oh and three. In fact,
they were down at Kansas City forty one to nothing
in the third quarter forty one ten the final Patrick
Mahomes three short touchdown passes. The ankle is said to
be okay after he was rolled up on Miami beato
and three. Denver seventy to twenty four touchdown passes for

(01:44:15):
two a tonguea by low Dolphins now three and zero
Dallas is not. Arizona upset the Cowboys twenty eight sixteen.
Cardinals led at the half twenty one ten after a
sixty two yard field goal by Matt Prater. Next Sunday
on Fox TV New England at Dallas and Arizona at
San Francisco, green Bay came back to beat New Orleans
eighteen seventeen. Saints quarterback Derek Carr injured his right shoulder

(01:44:38):
on a sack, and then Green Bay got eighteen points
in the fourth quarter to win. Rashaan Gary of the
winners three sacks in this game. Chargers won at Minnesota
twenty eight twenty four. The Vikings record now zero and three.
Keenan Allen in the win eighteen receptions two hundred and
fifteen yards, and he threw a touchdown pass to Mike Williams.
Williams had seven catches for a one hundred and twenty

(01:45:00):
one yards but left with a knee injury. He'll have
an MRI tomorrow. The Colts won in overtime at Baltimore
twenty two to nineteen as Zach Moss had thirty carries
for one hundred and twenty two yards and one touchdown
reception wins for Detroit and Cleveland. For Houston and New England.
Buffalo won thirty seven to three at Washington, and Washington's
quarterback Sam Howel not only through four interceptions, he was

(01:45:23):
sacked nine times. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow with a sore
CAF listed as questionable for Monday night against the Rams.
Eagles wide receiver DeVante Smith practice full of yesterday, so
he should play Monday. Yes, there are two games tomorrow.
Eagles are two and oh going up against Tampa Bay
two and O. Bucks linebacker Devin White also due to play.
Colorado's out of college Football's Top twenty five this Saturday

(01:45:46):
on Fox TV, Colorado hosts number eight ranked USC noon
Eastern Time. By the way, at number twenty five in
the AP pole now is Fresno State, which has won
thirteen straight games, the second longest current streak in the
country behind George Nascar. Win at Texas for William Byron.
In Chicago, Bryson Deshambo took the live golf event. US

(01:46:06):
women's soccer won its exhibition in Chicago two nothing over
South Africa. Megan Rapino's final game with the team, The
ballgame tonight at Dodger Stadium went to LA and ten
innings over the rival Giants, three to two. Philadelphia won
its fifth straight game. Atlanta split a doubleheader at Washington
and home wins for the Reds, Marlins, and Cubs as
they fight for a playoff spot. In the National League

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one week left in the regular season. Cubs lead for
the final NL wildcard, still one game over Miami, two
and a half games up on the Reds, and it
was a great weekend for Texas. They've now won five
in a row after beating Seattle again nine to eight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Back to you, great Stepsteve appreciated tonight, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph,
Fox Sports Radio, So glad you're with us tire rack
dot Com Studios. Kyle, what do you think about this? Now,
it's a little bit of a lengthy quote, It's not
that long, but get the flavor of the bears SLocker room. So,

(01:47:02):
after being asked about the thirty one point loss today,
Justin Fields immediately jumped into quote what he's learned these
last few weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Listen to this. Tell me what you think, Kyle quote.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
I'm looking at it like the big picture life in general.
To be honest with you, I think this past week
has had me kind of look at it like, what
are the important things in life? Because you know, when
things are going good, you feel me not say whatever.
I think These past couple of weeks have made me
appreciate the little things in life.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
Like being able to play this game.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Every opportunity I get to go out there and play,
I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna play my hardest and
just thank God for giving me the ability to play.
So no matter what the scoreboard is, I'm gonna keep
doing the same mindset and just pushing to keep moving forward.
End quote justin fields. I don't want to say sound

(01:48:00):
like I'm saying there's anything wrong with any of that.
It's wonderful perspective when it sounds like that after week three,
Oh yeah, yay. That that that's that sounds like someone
who has been defeated in terms of the competitive nature
of what you guys are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
That's exactly the word that I was going to use,
just defeated. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
You know, those those are the answers I've been in
those interviews plenty of times throughout my career. We all
know what the vibe is, what the feelings are in
those locker rooms at that time. We all I've talked
about the pride of the men across our league and

(01:48:46):
in those locker rooms, and how you know it doesn't
matter if you're zero and three, you still believe we
truly week in and week out. All right, all we
gotta do is go get a win, and then you know,
we'll get hot and we'll be one in seven like
the Detroit Lions were last year, and then go rattle
off a bunch of wins and play a meaningful game

(01:49:07):
in Week eighteen with a chance to go to the playoffs.
That's just that's the mindset of professional athletes. That's what
guys think about. That's the way we approach the game.
So to hear to hear that quote, I get what
he's saying, and that's ultimately I think what he's getting
at like, it doesn't matter the scoreboard, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
Matter our record.

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna have fun, I'm
gonna prepare to play the best I can play, and
ultimately go try to win games. But it's like, again,
I keep going back to this. At some point, we
need to see confidence instilled in that offense, and not

(01:49:50):
during press conferences, not the GM at a press conference,
not the quarterback at a press conference. We need to
see it on the field on Sunday. You know, it's
incredible perspective. I'd love to see it during the course
of a game and we go out there and see
that offense start to build confidence from the openers through

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the first quarter, the first half, and ultimately for four quarters.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Yeah, the whole thing is just such a head scratcher
because it felt like they found something last year.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Was it ideal?

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
No, we all know that in the NFL, if as
a quarterback, if Option one is running the ball, you're
in trouble. Everybody's too fast, the injury rate is just
too high. But there were moments in the second half
of last year where it really felt like, man, we

(01:50:50):
have found we have found something that is so athletically gifted.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Here in the way.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Justin can sort of nab a gate an open field.
And if we just I think we all thought the
same thing. Put some weapons around this guy and it'll
be it'll be totally different. And oh, by the way,
give him a defense and he got DJ Moore. But
outside of that, it's not really all that different of

(01:51:20):
a group, and the defense is stopping no One. So
I still don't think they're anywhere near sort of providing
him what he needs. But what's so concerning is it
just it looks like everything we saw at the end
of last year got bottled back up.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
I don't know where it went well.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
And again I go back to just what I see
from this offense throughout the course of the game, and.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
You traded the first overall pick and you got a
bunch of draft picks for it, and you got DJ
Moore and he was supposed to come in and help
justin fields and be somebody that we can get. He
had three catches today. He got to the ball three
times in a game where you threw it twenty two times.
If that's going to be the guy, get in the

(01:52:10):
ball ten times, fourteen times a game. It's better than
turning around and handing it off down thirty four to nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
You know, let's get this guy the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:52:20):
Let's get creative ways, get him involved in the screen game,
maybe motion him into the backfield and hand them the ball.
He's a guy that can do all those different kinds
of things. We saw it during his time in Carolina,
but we're not seeing any of that from this offense.
They're putting way too much pressure on this young quarterback

(01:52:40):
to do things that he didn't do last year. And
that's why they had success because they did things differently.
And yes, it's not good when the number one option
is running the quarterback. But I will say when you
have a quarterback that can run. We saw it in
Philly last year. When you have a quarterback who can

(01:53:01):
run the football, it makes everything else so much harder
to defend. And there are so many different things you
can do in the past game off of the quarterback
being able to run the football that I know justin
Fields can do. We've seen him do it. They just
have they have to get it in the offense. Again,

(01:53:24):
I just can't understand why it's hand off to the
running back, drop back pass.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
You know, we're not.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
Doing anything to play to this young quarterback's strengths. It is,
it is what it is. You drafted him, everybody's buying
into him. We're saying that he's he's taking ownership. He's
doing all the right things. That's amazing, that's great. Can
we please start taking ownership ourselves and start giving this

(01:53:53):
You put the guys around him, now, start calling the plays,
and get him in a system that equips him to
use those players. Now you go through the list there,
Dj Moore three catches, Cole Comet two catches, Chase Claypole,
who they traded for one catch. It doesn't those aren't.
I'm not talking about guys that are. Tyreek Hill got

(01:54:14):
to throw the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:54:16):
Cole Comet's a big inline tight end. We can get
the ball to him around the line of scrimmage. Chase
Claypole's a big body, wide receiver. Just give him fifty
to fifty balls. Have trusted him that he'll go up
and make the catch or no one will. So when
you see five six catches between those three guys that

(01:54:36):
are supposed to be your three guys helping your young
quarterback out in a game that you lost by thirty
one points.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
That's that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Yeah, Yeah, you're in trouble, Mark Ward, Kyle Rudolph, glad
you're with us tonight. Coming up next, in addition to
the Play of the Day, we got two games still
ahead tomorrow night. Is this Bucks thing for real? And
is this Bengals problem for real? All of that is
next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Brandon Staley earlier, Kyle, but a win for analytics, right,

(01:55:56):
the Packers did that thing where it was seventeen to three,
and then they scored a touchdown and they went for two,
and I know a lot of longtime fans are like,
what what are you doing? And then they got it,
and so it was seventeen to eleven. And then when
they got that second touchdown, poof winning the.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Game was as easy as kicking an extra point.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Then again, they also needed a missfield goal from the
other team to make it stand up, but they got it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
And all's well that ends.

Speaker 5 (01:56:25):
Well, you know, it's funny. I feel like there's so
much that goes into analytics. I think after you said
the two point conversion, there was five other things that
had to happen in order for that to work out
the way. And it's just again that's where I feel like,
you know, I was raised through the NFL with a
head coach and Mike Zimmer, who was Bill Parcell's descendant.

(01:56:48):
You know, we really we spent so much time practicing
and going through the last ten minutes of the fourth quarter,
and you know, I feel like I've played out every situation,
whether in practice or in games at some point, and
you know, yeah, sometimes analytics work. I think oftentimes it's

(01:57:08):
just knowing knowing ball, and you know, you got to
you gotta have a feel for your team. I think
analytics don't. They're not on the sideline. They don't have
a pulse for the guys and either how the momentum
is going at that current time or how it's not.
And again that's where I go back to the Chargers Vikings.

(01:57:31):
What's the pulse on that sideline. Clearly it was, Hey,
we need to get this one yard so we can
kneel out the rest of the game and not put
our defense back out there on the field. Otherwise you
punt the football ten times out of ten, and then
you know, in this situation, you're like, hey, got the quarterback,
he's got a hot hand. We just went down the
field scored a touchdown. We'll get the two point conversion now,

(01:57:52):
and then we can just kick the extra point or
we have another chance to go for two and potentially
tie the game. So you know, it's like, hey, you
got you got two chances there to go for two.
If you get one of them, you either win the
game because you kick the extra point, or you missed
the first one. You got to go for two again
and tie at seventeen seventeen. So you know, it is

(01:58:15):
a good call in my opinion, you go for two
there because you have more time, Whereas again on the
on the charger side late in the there's a minute
and forty seconds left or a minute and fifty seconds left,
whatever it was in the game, it's not really a
whole lot of time to fix it. If you don't
get it and they turn around and go right down
the field twenty five yards and score the game winning touchdown,

(01:58:37):
you're not gonna have a chance to answer. And yeah,
in theory, score that second two point conversion. That the
Packers would have had a chance to run had they
not got the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
We'rethetirack dot Com Studios, Mark Ward, Kyle Rudolph, Hey, just
about a minute left. How big of a problem are
the Bengals facing and how real are the Bucks?

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Let's check it out tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
You know, I think the biggest problem that the Bengals
are facing are Joe's caff that it's a finicky injury
that seems to reaggravate so often. It's something that he's
gonna deal with for a long time. So I think
that's the biggest problem they're facing. In Cincinnati is the
highest paid player in the NFL's health. And then in Tampa,
I think they they found the recipe for success. They

(01:59:24):
know they can go out there and play good defense
with the talent they have on that side of the ball.
Baker's not turning the ball over, He's taking.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
Care of the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:59:32):
You see Tristan Worf's on the left side getting more
comfortable week in and week out. And it's a team
that has two, in my mind, incredible receivers. And Mike
Evans and Chris Godwin. Those are guys that give you
a chance as a quarterback. Just put the ball anywhere
near him. They're gonna make you look good, and that's
what they've done through two weeks. They got a real
test tomorrow night, though, with that front.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
No doubt, it's gonna be an interesting one. Man. Can't
wait to talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
For Kyle Rudolph, I'm Mark Willard as we come down
the stretch here on a football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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