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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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on a Fox Sports Radio Saturday show, Heyl Tan he
took them mount today also went into the batter's box,
but made history, according to him, at least well for him,
at least his fastest pitch ever one hundred and two
miles per hour and two winning scoreless, one hit, one walk,

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one strikeout for Otani.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
The pitcher. The pitcher the picture, oh tiny, the hitter.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Looked like he was facing go tighty to the picture
three strikeouts, oh for four on the day. Now, obviously
it would be absurd and ludicris are ridiculous for me
to come on the radio today and say, Alex Monico, yep,
cancel the experiment show ol Tony, Look, you can't hit

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oh for three and four, I mean oh for four,
obviously can't hit when he's pitching. I'm not doing that.
I'm not doing that because we've seen the proof of
concept when he was in Anaheim.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We saw how that worked.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I am willing to give one of the best hitters
that I have ever seen with one all two eyes
a chance to let go ahead and give that runway
to figure to get back into the groove of things,
as he admittedly is doing and saying that. You know, hey,
he said through an interpreter today, not the new one.
The new interpreter said, I don't think I'd be able
to do it in a live batting practice setting. It

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was nice to be able to hit this in a game, right,
So him getting these game reps matters for him. So okay,
he says he's got to work through it in a game.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Do you agree? I agree inherently.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Again, like you said, what he did down the five
Freeway is goes without saying there in Anaheim, he clearly
wants to double dip. The three ks oh for on
a loss against KC doesn't land great, but you gotta
remind ourselves it's one sixty two. My question to you
is Martin, the pitching staff literally a crowded room, almost

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as crowded as the Browns depth chart at quarterback. Is
this as necessary in July as we approach it late
June to get these reps in and maybe cost your
team wins and losses like today nine to five.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
See no, yeah, I'm willing to sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I don't know what the number is, but I'm willing
to sacrifice a couple losses. I see if I can
get show hel Tony's arm to a place where you know,
we've seen it throughout his career, I'm worth it.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
If that throws off the rhythm for.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
A couple I'm fine with that, especially too, because I
know the Dodgers' pitching staff is you know, generally the
injury list is longer than the CVS receipt. But you know,
we'll see how So we see how that all plays out.
But unlet's say everybody is healthy, then you're telling me
that I can get maybe a reliever coming out of
the bullpen, you know, or like warming up like I could.

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The idea of having Otani be a pitcher doesn't necessarily
mean he has to just be a starting pitcher. He
could pitch a lot of different places, like we've seen
him have success in these one inning outings, one and
two innings today. So yeah, I'm willing to experiment it,
and you are as well. So that's what I thought.
That's not a terribly ridiculous question. But he did start today.

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But here's the one that I think is a close
cousin of that question. But this guy doesn't have the
bona fides built up that show hal Tani does. He
doesn't have what we saw in Anaheim, but we did
it in Boulder. How long if in fact Travis Hunter

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has the equivalent of two scoreless innings and zero for four,
say Travis Hunter is what? Say he plays every snap
offensive defense and you know only has three catches on
six targets for thirty yards or something like that, and
like the other three were drops, right, But defensively he's

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locking up everything right. Defensively, Jamar Chase is in absolute
hell hypothetically speaking, right, all right, how long do you
play Travis Hunter?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
How long? How long are you going to run him
out there for every single play?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know, this goes almost a step back Martin to
what kind of energy is the Jacksonville Jaguars post Doug
ep bringing into the year. Are they desperate? Are they
closer to abundance? Kind of tough off a four and
thirteen season to say they're.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Closer to abundance.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm still of the belief you roll them out on
both sides if he's one of one. As this is
about conditioning, right to me, I think managing his mental
is one piece of the puzzle, the conditioning. If it's
there and he can do it, why not give him
at least a month to see how it goes?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Little costco sample, So you say.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
A month so through about four games and not a
month is four games. But to your point, I don't
think it's just conditioning. I think condition is a prerequisite,
but there has to be also the requisite ability and
fundamentals established, like all of that has to be in play,
because like that's thin and I'm not saying that he

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can't do it.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'm not saying that he won't do it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm saying it's going to be incredibly difficult.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And I think anybody.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Who thinks this is going to be an easy and
seamless transition, I think that that you're in for a
route awakening.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
So do you take today's Otani line and sort of
look at that could very much be what a Travis
Hunter Sunday looks like.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think like this.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think if Joe Altany had come out and gone,
let's extrapolate today out for you know, a month, right,
and he ends up with he's one for or you know,
two for fifty two from the plate over that stretch.
But he's pitched, you know, thirty one scoreless innings, you know,

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has given up, you know, with seventeen strikeouts in a month.
Like I think that I would be having some real
conversations about this.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
But that's baseball though.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
So maybe it's just, hey, we're gonna work on them
to get better at this. The difference between football is
what happens when you now are you you just gave
up a seventy five yard touchdown and we want to
run a bubble screen on the next play because we
gotta get you know.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You don't want it to be the Brian Thomas you
want to be and we want and we want it
to be to you.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, So it's like how and obviously you scheme around that,
you plan around that. Well, do'll be the only team
in the NFL having to do that?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
It does pose an interesting conundrum.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
It seems like now the speed obviously the NFL isn't
even pales in comparison. As you hear former players talk
about it from college, do you feel like out the gate,
can you hypothesize one side of the field being more
natural to him? And then you kind of go from
there because on defense, if you there's a lockdown, cover corner,

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and that's what he is.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
He'll probably play more snaps than not.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
On offense, you do have the luxury with you know,
five wide receivers to intermingle him here and there and
give them little bits of breaks. But do you think
there is maybe a serious problem here if there isn't
one side of the field being more stronger than the other.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, the one the thing that makes me wonder the
most is he is and he should He should feel
this way. He absolutely should. But he is of the
utmost confidence that he was going to be able to
do this without a problem, without a doubt whatsoever. I
do all the every single quote he's like, dude, there's
twenty four hours in the day. I sleep eight of him.

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That's twenty or it was sixteen. To figure out the
rest of football. I'll use eight for defense, eight for offense. Right, Like,
And you hear that type of attitude, and that's exactly
what you want to hear. Similar attitude what you hear
of Cooper Flag when Jason kids in his introductory press conference.
This kid would rather be not work working out right
now instead of being here talking to you jerks. Right,

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So get that and I love that, and that's the
attitude you have to have.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
The other thing is the Jaguars also seemingly have the
exact same attitude towards him. Now, the GM's younger than me,
so it's his first go round and this is his
first pick, and he made a big trade to go
get him. And he said after that quote, first and foremost,
when there's an opportunity to be bold, we're not going
to flinch. And he says, we're adding people who are

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intangibly rich. And Travis is, in fact, as a player rare.
And he went on to say, trying to find the
exact quote, but he went on to say, here we go.
There are players have capacity to alter a game. There
are players that have capacity to alter the trajectory of
a team.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
There are very few.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Players who have the capacity to alter the trajectory of
the sport itself.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
One a one for a first time who's.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
They've never played a snap in the league. Right, So
that's where we're talking now. I say, I think it's
absolutely fair that at Little League diamonds around America, dads
are saying, well, show Hal Tiney does this, Why can't
little Mikey, Right like why can't Mikey try it?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Now, let me ask you this, do you think you'd
feel more confident if he played in the SEC the
Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
You're a Michigan man. Had he played against a non.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Colorado schedule, would we be looking at the painting a
little differently?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's a good question, though, because there's not a good question.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Because I don't have like an answer, like most people
say that's a good question when they're like trying to
think about it. Yeah, I just had never considered the
fact had he played against quote nquote better competition, because
I just thought he dominated the competition he was playing against,
and he did.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
But let me ask you this, Martin, because he was
coached by Dion, a guy that also is a Travis
Hunter type athlete in his heyday. Are we sitting here
if we are playing the other side and not being optimistic?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Are we feeling like this is a little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Of a a sales pitch and the Jaguars took the
bait and they're gonna end up with a product that
couldn't be nearly what he could be because he is
pitching and hitting metaphorically as Otawni did today and to
your point, off the top, oh, for four to three ks.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So that's my thing is like if we watch that's
the they, I wonder just how much of a conversation
inside Jacksonville they're having on the back end, right, because like,
let's say he like he gets to the league and
has trouble making tackles, just just making tackles, right, and

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there's not there are there are corners in you probably
got them off the top of your head, but there
are corners that go into the draft every single year
that they say this guy has trouble tackling, and then
they go into the NFL and guess what they have
trouble tackling. Like, I'm not saying that Travis Hunter is
going to just necessarily have trouble, but the idea that
he is going to walk in and be a plus

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plus at both receiver and cornerback is one that is
it's very hard for me to agree to see now
could have happened two three years from now. All right,
I'm willing to accept that, but how long of a
one way do you give them?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
And to add to that and throw it to you,
I'm looking at the first five weeks of the season, Mahomes,
the Niners, CJ. Stroud, and the boys out of Houston.
They got the Bengals looking approved to everyone in the
whole world. Let's say they start out one in three,
one and four. This is not the Dodgers. This is
the exact opposite, a low self esteem, non winning franchise

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that's tried to reashoffle number of ways. Do you have
a shorter leash when you roll out Hunter on both
sides of the depth chart if you're losing out the gate.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Look, man, The plan they say in Jacksonville is to
learn primarily focus on offense while learning defense throughout the offseason.
That's also the way I would have approached it. I
also think with a kid like this, you have to
give him the opportunity, right, you have to give him
the chance.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think he has earned.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
This may come out wrong, he has earned the right
to fail, right, Which is how long of a lease
does he get? You just talked about he's going up
against what that's three AFC Pro Bowlers in the first
four games between Borrow Mahomes and you said, Josh.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Allen, No, they got the Texans. Okay, c. J.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Stroud, they got a burrow, they got mahomes and in
between two AFC.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Playoff teams they go to San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And how have you feel about brock perty. I know
this is true about Kyle Shanahan. If you have a
week link on your defense, it will be a long day.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
For that play.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
You guys need to also remember the Jaguars are actually
pretty good at receiver outside of Travis Hunter. I mean,
Brian Thomas Junior comes to mind. I know they just
signed someone too. They have a pretty good Christian, Kirk
Christian the Texan. Now, yeah, that's terrible radio right now
to not have that off the top of my head.
But the point is their receiving course pretty good outside
of Hunter. So do you guys agree with them starting

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him on offense? It almost seems like they need him
a little more in the secondary.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, but I think it's good thought.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
To the point is if they're going to start him
on offense and then work him into the defense, then
I'm thinking of where you're looking is more so you
have so much more control over who plays on offense
than you do on defense. You have so much more
control over your substitution patterns. You have so much more
control over who's going to be involved in the action

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on offense.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Also, you're not throwing them, you know, facing off against
Pat Sertan in Week one versus guarding Jamar Chase and
stuff like, you know the other team's best corner is
going to be on Brian Thomas to start the year.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well, I'm looking at him Boys bottom ten passing offense
last year, and I'm looking at their pass defense, and
their pass defense was worse in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
They gave up two fifty seven, the worst in the NFL.
No one is making the claim that this was a
good team last year.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
No, I mean does it? Is it the perfect storm
for the worst thing to happen?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Though?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
This feels I don't you know, we're nineties kids. I
don't want to get a little Madden with it. This
is a little video game fringe, like can we put
this guy all over the field?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
This is exactly this is video game fringe stuff. And
that's why it's like, we'll see if it works. Like
I'm not counting it out altogether, but I will say this,
I also am not taking or placing any bets on
Travis Hunter offensive or defensive Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
How about how about overs or unders?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll take all unders thought.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's worth a thought.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
So unseen like I'm just you gotta hey, if I
if that and I lose those bets, I tip my
cap to you, Travis's tip my cap to you. Someone
this look, there's been not a single tip of cap,
a whole lot of hits, a whole lot of swears,
a whole lot of you know who you're talking to
in between.

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Speaker 3 (16:02):
Good looks good, looks worst handle in the history of X.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
You also see my black LA hat on Twitter. Just
not a Dodger's hat. The Dodgers wear blue and white.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
The guitar looks fresh, though. I gotta give him some DAPs.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
So we were having this conversation earlier today, we'll do
it very quickly. I am wearing a black hat with
the Dodger logo on it. Would you say this is
a black Dodger hat or a black hat with an
LA logo on it? Like a black LA hat because

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the Dodgers do not wear black.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
What's see on the scantrun neither a and.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
B old school test taker over here hit him with
the number two pencil.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Alex, Come on, it's a black Dodgers hat. It is
a black Dodgers. Dodgers don't wear black.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
But that's why it's a black version of a Dodgers hat.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But do you understand that by taking the Dodgers hat
out of blue and white, it is then by definition
no longer a Dodger hat.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
The version of a Dodge hat were blue and white.
As a Padres fan, this is a Dodgers hat, exactly.
I take it personal.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
If if the Boston Celtics, like they don't wear gray, right,
if you had a hoodie that was a gray hoodie
and had the Boston Celtics logo on it, is it
not a gray Boston Celtics hoodie.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But this isn't the Boston Celtic. This isn't the La Dodgers.
This is not the script the Dodgers. This is the letters.
It's their logo, the let the logo is the script
Dodgers across the front. That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's another Celtic, that's another Dodgers logo.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Be a great question for a New Yorker considering a
Mets and a Yankees cap with different and why broken down.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
A Yankees cap is a great example too, because if
you had a green Yankees cap, that that's still a
Yankees cap.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right, This is a question for only Larry David. There's
no such thing as a green Yankees hat. The Yankees
do nowhere green. This is the NBA's fault. This is
the NBA as everybody comes out wearing all these crazy
colors and clothes. I'm watching the Red Sox that they
playing blue and yellow, and you know what, somebody will

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tell me, Oh, well, you know this purple hat is
a Red Sox had because it's got a B on it. No,
the Red Sox is supposed to wear a rag and blue.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's a fair take. Ian, I think that's a fair take.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I shouldn't have asked over here, San Diego kid, what
about my hat? Has? Because it seems to be that
the padres at this point and Dodgers are contractually obligated
to be very petty against one another.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just saw this video today of last week when Maddy
Machado is you know, you ever go to a baseball game,
Generally baseballs are flying into the stands.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Often guys when they.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Run off the field, they're throwing the ball into the stands.
If you really want to catch a baseball, yeah, you
can go out there into the upper deck.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Now, maybe if you're.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
In Colorado, that's the best place to do it because
there'll be you and nobody, so you can go out
there and really chase down the fly balls that fly
out of course field. But if you have a really
crowded baseball game, the best place to try to catch
a ball, more than likely is going to be off
of the first and third base lines. As the infielders
come in from batting practice, or the infielders are fielding
practice or come in from just making the third out,

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you see one throwing them to the stands quite often.
Manny Machado, however, third basement for the Padres has a ball.
He walks towards the dugout. He's faking like he's about
to throw it, and he turns around and gives the
solo finger salute to the Dodger faithful And I know

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reports yet what color hats they were wearing, so whichiado
couldn't be sure, but.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
It just shows you.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think this is like it's I find it rare
actually in baseball, but in sports in general, where you
have rivalries. Most times, players don't like each other, and
that's evident here. Yeah, but it's like they also don't
like the fans of the other teams either, which is
kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Mart I love it.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Also, Machado, for a cup of coffee was a Dodger.
Let's not forget he has real animosity towards this entire
organization and picked the Padres over the Dodgers. It could
have been a guy in a Martin esque la hat,
though for all we know, could have just been not

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Dodger blue.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Right. Maybe my guy was just like, hey man, I'm
just representing the city.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's rough. Chada's like, you know, I don't care the
whole city.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
The whole city can get, but it's just I think
that Like, and Ian brought up another one that's a
great one that is a three hundred and sixty five
day rivalry, and that's Michigan Ohio State, especially where we
are now in the rivalry where Ohio state national champion
still lost in Michigan the last three years in a

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row to the Michigan in this down spot of last year,
finishing with eight and five after the national championship that
they had so but again, that's at the height of
the sport right now, in those two teams right back
to back champions. The Dodgers would make this one special. Yeah,
and Dodgers and Padres. It's a great regular season rivalry

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because these teams will never meet in this World Series.
Right this is division rivals. This is to me what
like sports should be.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You build these up and then your postseason rivalries get
built up on top of that.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, you could talk to me, being very much in
the Michigan rivalry as an alum of the school, and
maybe talk to me because I am a part of
this rivalry in the Padre Dodger land, but I'm the
little brother. We are in ron Burgundy Land below the
Disneyland Freeway. I'm still suffering from nineteen ninety eight when

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my third grade teacher had tickets to Game five and
thanks to Scott Broches there was no Game five. That's
the most of Padres fan I can't can share outside
of you know, obviously we got great Bullpork Sandwich is
a Petco, But in all seriousness, we were the team
Martin a blip away from taking.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Down the goliath Dodgers last year. They go on to
win the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
And here we are in a real rivalry watching Tatis
get beamed three times in four games, and we had
benches clearing, and we got a full on.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Three sixty five rivalry. Baby, I think it's great for
the sport. What say you? I absolutely think it's great
for the sport.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
And I want to see this as the wildcard.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Because obviously both of these teams, only one can be
the wildcard, and that's what's cruel about the division set
up in sports.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
But also enjoy this well? Can I ask you?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Did you when Otani Tatis gets beamed, bench is clear?
Then Otani gets hit and he does I don't know
if it was stoicism.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I don't know if it was an old.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
School baseball maybe in his world, but he did not
choose to engage in any kind of moral altercation. Did
you like the play of him doing the stare down
to the potter's dugout?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know what it was?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was big brothers, That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's what you're hitting me with.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I know that that was it.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Not I can listen, I am, I can beat you
up so bad. I am letting this one slide. I
don't want to keep fighting with you.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Is this now, let me ask you, this is God
full nls with this. I have two brothers. One of
my brothers can absolutely take me one of my brothers.
It's up for a coin flip. According to Vegas, is
this a one brother household? Or are the Diamondbacks and
the Giants in this conversation and they're all younger brothers.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think I saw a stat today the Diamondbacks are
I forget what they were terrible before they added Deavors,
added Giants. Rather, the offense has been terrible before they
had Edeavors, added Devas, and it's still been terrible. Jeff
Schwartz just tweeted it out a minute ago.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
In the existence though, of the Giants and the Diamondbacks,
like you said, Alex, doesn't that kind of lessen the
rivalry and the grand scheme of things? Like I would
still put Ohio State, Michigan and you know, Duke North
Carolina rivalries like that over even Red Sox Yankees. Maybe
even just because of the existence of these other teams
that are still you know, technically on.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
The That's true, without question, Potters have no business in
that rivalry.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm talking more just real animosity between both sides, like
the historic moments they're not there, but the anger, like the.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
How these two teams play.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think us eight more times this season, we are
going to see three more instances of benches clear like,
that's what I'll talk about. Like when Michigan beats Ohio State,
Jack Sawyer was losing his mind, ripping the flag off,
crying on the field.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
You know, this team went on to win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Ryan Days in the postgate press conference just white as
a sheet on his face, like he's got no what
in his face. He's just like I cannot believe that happened.
I am looking for a trapdoor to escape into the
ground right now.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I want to I don't want to be here at all.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
We were talking about if you should get fired, and
he won the championship later that season, so you.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Know it's going to be electric when he goes own
four own four against Michigan.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That wouldn't go through the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Mark would Michigan The parallel thought here, would Michigan be
the Dodgers and the Padres be Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I don't think so because the Ohio States is.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Championship, Well, I'm I guess my question is are the
Padres worry about the Dodgers and the Dodgers are worried
about repeating?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Is that the difference?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think that's what shoe Hale Tony's overarching message is.
You can hit me in the back. That's fine. We
don't need any more suspensions. Docs already been suspended a game.
What would hurt us way worse is if Max Muntsey
breaks an elbow out here, as opposed to uh, you know,
me having this bruise in my back coming up next.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Look, the NBA draft just finished. But do we have
those moves?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know, Alex, I like to think that these gms
are not all dumb, right.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Like these see these moves, Avery, what a dumb one
would do that.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
We'll try to rationalize some of these head scratching moves.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Maybe we'll be able to.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Let's kick it over to Steve the saga now for
everything trending, and Steve, you're up.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
Another layer on the San Diego versus La rivalry, and
it is a great one and has been for about
six years now. Is the city of San Diego hates
the city of Los Angeles, and that doesn't always exist
between two sides of a rivalry in whatever sport. And
so you had the Dodgers, with very good teams visiting

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San Diego in the eighties and nineties and losing all
the time. They lost two decades worth of series to
the Padres. They had no business doing because it absolutely
was a rivalry down there, more so back then than
it was for the Dodgers, who finally have been paying attention.
Let's say, and to be fair, Manny Machado, Yes, he

(27:08):
chose the Padres. The Dodgers didn't choose him either. They
got to sample Manny Machado. He batted one to eighty
in the World Series. The attitude, the kicking the opponent
at first base, the not hustling and then being challenged
out and says, what do you think I am, Johnny
Hustle or something. Yeah, we kind of do. If you
want that kind of fifteen year contract, you kind of
have to hustle. Yes, Chicago Cubs, who have one of

(27:30):
the games on Fox TV right now, leading eight to
two at Houston and it's only bottom of the fourth.
They've scored seven times in the top of the fourth,
sending Lance mccullor's junior to the Showers. He allowed three
home runs in the fourth inning, including one to the
former Houston slugger Kyle Tucker, his seventeenth home run as
a Cub this year. It was a three run shot

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to the sixth inning at Atlanta, Braves two nothing over
the Phillies. Philadelphia was just one hit. The Phillies entered
tonight first in the NL East half game over the Mets.
The Mets have lost nine to two at Pittsburgh. By
the way, Famed Pirates outfielder Dave Parker passed away at
the age of seventy four. He will be inducted into
the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown in a month. Parker

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was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in twenty twelve. The Yankees
got shot out at home by the A's today seven
to nothing. The loss to Clark Schmidt. Tampa Bay meanwhile
won at Baltimore eleven to three, so the Rays second
in the AL East, just a half game behind the Yankees.
The loss to Zach Eflin in Baltimore, strain lower back
was the problem. He tried to pitch through it and
allowed four runs. In the first. The Detroit Tigers have

(28:36):
a record of fifty two and thirty two. After winning
again ten to five over Minnesota, Texas in ten h
Seattle three to two, Miami won at six straight game,
a ten inning win at Arizona eight to seven. The
Dodgers starting pitcher show Heo Tani did throw two scoreless innings,
no decision. Eventually nine five Kansas City the final, yet again,

(28:56):
a parade of pitchers you have never heard of, but
in Dodger uniforms, some of them gonna take the loss.
Freddy Freeman did have a solo homer, but this Royals
team had lost six straight until today. Padres were winners six'
four At, cincinnati saved To Robert suarez his twenty Third
White sox won nothing Over San, francisco Beating Robbie, ray
who had been eight and. Two milwaukee Sent colorado to

(29:19):
a fifth straight loss five Nothing Saint louis And boston with.
Wins The Cleveland cavaliers acquired Guard Lonzo ball from The,
bulls And cleveland will resign Guard Sam. Merril Golden state
Gave jonathan cominga a qualifying. OFFER nba free agency Starts,
monday just one W nba game tonight won and That's
washington At. Dallas The Dallas wings four and thirteen have

(29:42):
a huge lead in the second, quarter thirty seven to.
Thirteen back to, you.

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(30:25):
of stuff to gamble, on just like these three teams
did in THE nba draft and set us.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Up going to run through.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
It see if you can like spot the logic in
these in these moves all.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Right see if you can spot the logic first in
The Phoenix suns, drafting shout Out Mary mack for the
help on the.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Pronunciation, here come, On, malowach there you.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Go he's a big man center and, uh you, know
apparently they already have a lot of, centers The.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Sons they also Have Nick, richards they also Have Bowl,
bowl and they Add malowak to the. Lineup my thought is,
this if The sons who have a their lineup is
all shooting guards in big, men, right is it possible
that maybe maybe you could package some of those guys

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together for a point.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Guard like, maybe especially when you're dying For Tias jones
to be that.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Role last year In, PHOENIX i liked the. Thought i'm with.
YOU i, mean you go with a big out Of.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Duke, historically it's not gonna be a necessarily flop maybe
if it's a Plumb lee.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Brother BUT i like his, GAME i LIKE i like
him as a. PLAYER i think he's a good. PLAYER
i saw. HIM i thought he was making big impact
on the defense side of the, ball rebounding For, duke
especially in the. Tournament but it is one that was
a little bit of a head. Scratcher that's be my best.
One this is my favorite one of the drafts coming
up here. Though Ian the next head scratching. Move next

(31:51):
was The Brooklyn. Nets they had five picks in the first,
round and four of them they spent on point.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Guards or actually just guards in. General what do you guys?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Think four of them on guards the general and they
took five picks in the first.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Round, martin can we refresh the two k roster or
any of these boys are gonna be over seventy?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Five that's my. Concern i'd say probably not right.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
NOW i do really Like Demon Igor, demon the guy they.
Took he is like six nine with the good handle
and great. Vision now he can't shoot a, lick but
he'll have every opportunity to improve.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
That.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah but my thought is, This brooklyn is the only
team in THE nba with any cash base of note the,
right and you're out there all the.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Time they try to sell it like It's New. York
when it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right they try to sell it, like but you still
get the benefits of living In, brooklyn you very much.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
DO I, look if we're gonna be all out on The,
nets we have to remind. Ourselves they figured out a
way to reshuffle and rebuild two times in the last. Decade,
yeah it was A Kg Paul pierce experiment on the
back nine of the golf. Course but other than, that
this team Had durant Are they're a big toe away for.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
ME i wonder with the second apron as it, is
and with the trades that we're seeing happening a lot
of player for player.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Trades in the years, prior we had seen a lot.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Of picks for player trade or you, know saying this
team gets a ton of picks and one clearly lesser
player in the. Deal but we just Saw Kevin durant
get traded For Jalen green And Dylan. Brooks we just
Saw Kristaps. WARZENGIZ i know he was, sick But Christaps
worzengiz just moves for Essentially Terrence man And george Ni. Ing,

(33:32):
wow need Like Terrence Man at one point you, thought
But george yan is not a guy you want to
play in the, Playoffs kristaps Is SO i wonder what
the nets you got five cost controlled assets? Here is
it easier to package three of those guys in the
trade to trade to a team that is going to
be up against the Second.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Apron that's a GOOD i, mean that's in the, weeds
but that's logical. THINKING i want to know if you're
high On Danny wolf. Though there was a few moments
in the draft that were. Standout his family was one of.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Them, YEAH i just wish that he to dribble the
ball so, much was a better ball. Handler that's. Right
AS i watched him A, MICHIGAN i was, like there's
nobody else that could dribble the.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Ball what's it?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Actually.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Man the next one is The New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Pelicans they traded up for Center Derek, queen giving up
their pick in next year's draft first round, pick so
they went up from pick twenty three to, thirteen moving
up ten.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
SPOTS i have absolutely no sel for this, One absolutely
no Se Unless Derek queen Is michael Freaking. JORDAN i
don't know what you got going on, Here, like do
you Think Derek queen Is Lebron. JAMES i don't buy.
IT i don't see. It AND i think that this
was like easily just the worst move of the draft by.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Far and if you Wanted Derek.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Queen that, bad you could have just took him you
didn't have to trade back up and get.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Them i'm with you on.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
THAT i guess the only train that thought would be
last ditch effort to try to Make zion.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
HAPPY i, MEAN i got it would have.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
To it would have to be.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That that's the only.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
One that's the only thought for Two. Mars it has to.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Be if the plan is Make zion, happy then then
we need a whole new. Plan we need a whole new.
Plan we need a new, book we need a new
we need. Everything we need to do.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Everything sixteen and Nine maryland was they were in it Against.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Florida i'm just saying they were in it against the.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Champ the only way this makes any sense is if
The pelicans are they Viewed Derek queen as a game
changing piece who's going to help them win, now so
that their first round pick next year won't be in
the lottery because to give away next year's. Pick it's just,
like you're The. Pelicans you need some self awareness. Here
you're probably gonna have a pretty high. Draftick get it's got.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Right that's the only thing that makes. Sense and but
that's my.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Thing if you thought that was true Of Derek, queen
you had an opportunity to take him without training anything at.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
All you, know you don't think he's gonna work with
your Boy Jay poole in the. Mix listen couple double
tab wise trans.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Don't get me. STARTED i Watched Andrew nemhard hit step
back three after step back three for in the end
end of the. Postseason it Thought Golden state us to
have a guy like that Before draymond punched the sonic
rings out of. HIM i saw it On. TWITTER i
can't take all.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
The credits, white so it's, Okay oh, goodness all.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Right coming up, next there's been an injury that is
impacting sports and just like it, is we can't escape.
It we'll try to explain. It coming up, next.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Don't listening To Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Radio coming to your line from The Fox Sports radio.
Studios It's Martin weiss And Alex. Monico if you want
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On twitter At Martin, Weiss alex is At Alex, Underscore
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find something funny to, play like a drop of some
sort like that has an underscore of some.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
KIND i don't.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Know we talk about this in the. Break should have done?
That hear mariad this tweet From mass one underscore seventy.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Eight, Hey Martin, weiss if.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
It has The DODGERS, la it's A dodgers.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Hat just ask at.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Fanatics, now first of, ALL i got a Little just
allow me a, moment, Please i'm old enough to remember
last year in. Baseball there are a lot of, changes right,
yeah you, know people getting adjusted to the to the pitch,

(37:33):
clock who get adjusted to the bigger, bases the ghost.
Runner also people complaining all day and night about the
quality of jersey that both the player were wearing and
that you were available to purchase from One, fanatics who
was supposed to, be according to mas seventy, eight the

(37:55):
utmost authority on all things.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hats i'm not.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
GOING i, Mean i'm also on mlbshop dot com looking
at a khaki Colored dodgers hat right. Now it says
Men's Los Angeles dodgers new era khaki A frame nine
forty adjustable.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Hat The dodgers don't wear.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Khaki The, padres in, fact wear a khaki such a
weird hill to die.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
ON i just just they don't wear they just.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Don't they just don't start wearing you Don i'm gonna
start wearing pink cubs.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Hats oh my, god there's literally you have the option
to choose what Color dodgers hat you.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Want there's, gray there's. Red you know what we call,
that there's.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Green woke, Nonsense it's, ridiculous it's. Ridiculous we'll watch looking
at her picture Of Dave parker rest in peace in
his pirate's uniform with the with the old yellow stars
on the p hat with the. Stripes, now if that's a,
red white and blue, hat know what it.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Is it's A phillies. Hat, sorry, no it's A phillies.
Hat phillies add on the fourth Of july rested piece
to the.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Cobra that's.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Definitely i'm a Little switzerland on.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
THIS i can see both. SIDES i just remember talking about,
fanatics you know the other think about? Fanatics what is
this fanatics? Fest what is? This LIKE i Know i'm.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
There Maybe i'm too old or Maybe i'm too, YOUNG
i don't, know but what is this fanatics fest where
it's just like this athlete convention? Center because you know
what THINK i was? Doing, okay do your, thing you
guys want to have installations and all of. That that's.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
COOL i can generally avoid these types of.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Things but WHEN i got to sit there and Watch
Kevin durant on stage find out he got, TRADED i
don't buy. It i'm not buying it one bit the
idea that that was the moment he found out he got. Traded, nah.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's worse than A Black dodgers At it ain't Any
chase promote Knackle, Man i'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
MUCH i, mean you know what really threw me off
about it because at, first because AGAIN i was thinking
to talk about this last. Week i'm a child of The,
internet SO i sort of. Agree like WHEN i see
something at, First i'm, like oh that that, okay it probably.
HAPPENED i don't think LIKE ai really messes with, Me
like that's not.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Real What.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
When he was being interviewed By Kay adams afterwards and
said it was just so special for it to happen
here at Fanatics fest because this event deserves this type of,
NEWS i was just, like you know, what.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
You smell THE Wwe i'm the.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
One, yeah it's my. Fault it's my fault BECAUSE i
bought a hook line and sinker. Exactly you smelled THE Wwe,
exactly this smells like baby.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Oil you like the pictures of the videos Of Joe
burrow pitching Fan, FAST i.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Mean get out here Fan, Fast fanatics.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Fest after you ruined the jerseys they got people think
of black not just have to exists.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
To Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Radio that's, right and we're coming to you live from
The Fox Sports radio studios On Fox Sports. Saturday and
and you Know Steven sacred just talked about this in
his Update. Alex let's take a second to dive into. It,
Yeah lonzo ball on a move straight up For Isaaca. Currow,
Uh lonzo going To, cleveland aquorol going To. CHICAGO i

(41:18):
think that IF i was a team in THE nba
AND i was making a, call my first call would
be To chicago be, LIKE i have an, asset please
trade me one of. Yours AND i.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Think you're gonna just win that. Trade, LIKE i think
you're just gonna win that. Trade minimal poker. Required, Yeah,
LIKE i just think you could just call and, ask.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Like like you, know LIKE i feel Like Nico harrison
just got to call and Asked rob For, Lake, Hey
luca for a d what do you?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Say and he's, like, uh all, RIGHT i guess so
they a loose paran in the. Neighborhood you, call you
call up the.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
House you know you're Getting you're getting your friend to
come out because they say yes to.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Everything, yeah they've been drinking since. Now and of course
he can come out and. PLAY i don't know where
he it, is, Right so WHEN i look at this this,
trade The bulls traded The Rosan Levine.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Lonzo and got not a single draft Pickback.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
MARTIN i don't know what The Chicago bulls are doing over,
there but talent comes in and like a revolving, door
talent comes out this. Organization And i've heard it through
through the. Grapevine they might not really want to compete for.
Championships they just want to play playing fringe playoff. Ball

(42:48):
can't quote me on, that but that's WHAT i. Hear
and then you look at the proof.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Of the pudding to.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Believe also look at the ownership group being the same
ownership was The White, sox, who, HONESTLY i think that
The White sox are probably the biggest argument In american
sports for, Relegation like, seriously like The White sox have
never mattered in the grand scheme Of Major League baseball

(43:14):
in my.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Lifetime no love For rozzie gian back in the.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Day but even, then even, then like even, then even
their their highest, Heights, yeah you know what's, like their
highest heights are Still Frank thomas in the pinball, game
the big.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Hurt like it's tough as nineties kids.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Though to watch The bulls go forty two and forty
year in year, out when they're a staple in the
nineties era of, basketball it's.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Ridiculous And i'll tell you, what the fans In chicago
still fill that place, out, uh.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
The top five sports.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
City speaking of top, five the fifth pick in THE
nba draft there. WAS i, mean you want to talk
about drop up, Boy he's got a lot of, layers
a lot of uh people who, UH i don't want
to phrase. It you could tell where a lot of
people stand on a lot of. THINGS i think on

(44:07):
how they respond and handle The Ace bailey. Conversation who
do you? Know it could probably it could be one
of those types of. Conference like you, KNOW i say
it like, this IF i ask you what you think
about if the, moon like if The earth is, flat
and you say, yes THEN i know you also believe
a lot of other. Things do you know What i'm.

(44:28):
SAYING i think that's how he kind of works with
This Ace bailey. Thing, Right so with that being, SAID
i sit here AND i Watched Ace.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
BAILEY i look at his.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
HIGHLIGHTS i watched a couple of games At, rutgers like
Pret parley when they Played, michigan AND i, said there
are times where this guy looks like he like His
his highlight tape is up there with some of the
best highlight tape you will ever see.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
It it's, vicious it is.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
INSANE i think he got a lot of bad. ADVICE
i think that and not necessarily in not working, out
got a lot of bad advice in the messaging behind,
this the conversation behind, This, right you had an opportunity
to set the conversation of why you're not working, out accepting,

(45:17):
workouts canceling. Them that's not the way to go about.
It it gives off the aspect that there is no.
Plan like When Eli manning Said i'm not going to
play In San. Diego there was a plan and they
implemented the. Plan see, look this plan was a poorly
poorly planned in, general but didn't execution didn't work, either

(45:39):
because he's not where you wanted to.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Go, well we do sit here, today and he did
exit a plane with a jazz shirt, on so it
seems like he did obviously before camp officially got, underway
get some correct.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Advice would you, say, well.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
If the advice is, YES i think you should show
up to your new job that's going to pay you
millions of dollars over the next four or five. Years,
yeah that's, YEAH i think that should be. WELL i
would hope you wouldn't need advice for that. One but
to your, point, though there was a level of is
he gonna show? Up is he gonna show? Up he

(46:15):
did show.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Up i'm a few train stops From New, brunswick and
The twitter world was having great fun With you'll you'll
live In, Rutgers, jersey no, problem and don't want to
Enjoy utah and the wonderful mountains, stylistically, though on a positive,
thought marn on a basketball, THOUGHT i think he's a

(46:35):
wonderful plug and play piece for a Young Utah jazz
team that's reshuffled the deck several times over the last
couple of.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
YEARS i do, two and they really liked their coach Will.
Hardy now that has. Translated the reason WHY i say
they really liked their coach is because they keep on
giving him massive contract. EXTENSIONS i can't say that Because
i've seen him win any game of note ye take.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Noe pun in, RIGHT i have not seen.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
That.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Right the last time they were winning, games they had
to take note on the front of the shirts With
Donovan mitchell And Rudy, gobert and that was what pre
pandemic pre.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Pandemic so that goes.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
To show you it's been quiet times In. Utah but
for The Ace bailey thing and the idea of, DRAFTING
i think that it was reports That Steph, CURRY i
Think Mark Mark spears FOR espn was reporting That Steph
curry did not want to play for The.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Warriors great, reminder didn't work, Out he didn't work out
with The warriors, initially and and you know that all
worked out for everybody, involved still working.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Out So i'm not saying that this is an absolute
lost season or lost. MOMENT i look at these moments
pre draft and post draft are almost like entirely. DIFFERENT
i look at them as the entirely new slate because
especially now with THE nil, era the abilit to MAKE

(48:01):
i mean, money real money in high, school in. College
these guys are getting spotted earlier and earlier and turned
into a way to make money for adults earlier and.
Earlier Ah bailey's agent has known him since the eighth.
Grade he moved him into the town that he lived

(48:23):
in in the eighth. Grade now that's a lot of
influence over somebody is thirteen fourteen years.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Old AND i was, like, so it's a lot of
stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
There that's the person that he looks as a, parent
as a para. Figure and you don't get to pick
who your parents, are Right, like you don't get, them
like your. GUARDIANS a lot of, times like you don't
get to pick those. People and when you, do you're
just going off what you have is your, best your best,
knowledge and a lot of times those people are just
trying their. Best right this is. One but Now, ace

(48:54):
your name's on the. Contract, well let me throw this to.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
You is there any element unlike THE nfl where you
you really are not bigger than the?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Shield no one really.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Is in that, Moment eli got to do the old you,
know the old school Lenon archie and that legacy element
for the the Recovering San Diego chargers fan of me
remembers very clearly that. Day but looking at this, League,
martin it's a player friendly. League durant just picked a
few teams you wanted to go. To, now is there
any kind of connective tissue with young guys like a

(49:26):
scene stars in this, league A harden A durant pick
where they want to? Go and does that have influence
on these guys in this nil era it was irrelevant
until money was in now college.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Play is there any thought there with just while the
older guys are.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Doing it in the same. League, SURE i think you
talk to me about. THAT i think that.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Matters in a way of, like, OH i can kind
of dictate my, position, Right BUT i think that the
point that he's, Missing AND i think that this IS
i think the point that people missing when they.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Talk about the grand player empowerment.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Era, yeah, Right like for some, people for Like Kevin
durant got to pick where he was, going but like
he's Where zinkis didn't at any point in his, career,
Right like you know What i'm, Saying like when you
Like Luca donsons didn't get to pick where he was. Going,
right like this happens every So Anthony davis, did but

(50:20):
like and Short lebron did as a free. Agent but
that is the cream of the, crop the top of the,
top and, like.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Like let's just say just throw this out.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
There let's Say rutgers is matching his rookie, somehow some
way there he's gonna make the same amount as rookie
season in the league that he will be back At.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Rutgers going a little flash forward, here but is there
any in this new? ERA i can see kind of
Like Ali manning.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Scenarios here where obviously it didn't end up where he's
not playing For, utah but they're coming in, loaded and
they're coming in as, stars more so than they ever.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Had And i'm just curious if this is gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Again but we're not gonna see that said players show
up before. Camp it's gonna get more. Dramatic it's gonna
Get Love island up in.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
HERE i can't.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
IMAGINE i can't unless you have a legitimate other, option
like unless like you, Know Love.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Island there's a ton of. Options off this don't get me.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Started i'm not BUT i see the Conversations houdah, LOOK
i see the.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Conversations there's no boyfriend watching The Stanley cup IN Nba
finals at the same, time you, know trying to be
a good guy over.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Here i'm not really, Watching but was? That what's your
opinion on?

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Her you, Know i'm Gonna CAN i fund a? Friend
CAN i CAN i call THE i got?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
It you, KNOW i have no.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
IDEA i have no.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Idea we don't watch shows in our house to start
with love or love in the. TITLE i find that
is a great filter to avoid a lot of. Bs well,
Said but to this point to As, bailey once you
are now out of the, house you've made your own,
money on your own. Cord you're the one that's got

(52:09):
to show up to practice every. Day you're the one
that's got to be the. Professional you're the one starting
tomorrow that's got to answer.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
For all of this in the.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Media there is not going to be somebody going and
asking the guy that you say is your agent how
you feel what the deal, is and that's not how it's.
Going you are your own man at this. Point And
Lonzo ball getting traded today and the entry to the
secondent is kind of funny to me Because Lonzo ball
had the same deal Like Shador sanders will have the same.
Deal And i'm not saying that those two had very

(52:37):
Overbearing i'd say are. Overbearing maybe it's too aggressive of a. Term.
Overarching well, known very popular father figures who are very
involved in their. Lives right, now This Omar cooper is
playing the role of a father figure For Age. Valley but,
look at some point in, time you are your own,
man And i'm giving to ME i have, DECIDED i,

(52:59):
guess maybe an arbitrarily. So but when you get drafted to,
me you are your own man at this, point and
you it is up to you to determine how your career.
Goes And i'm not Hearing i'm not gonna go for
the oh my agent screwed me at this.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Point, no all of this is.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Guaranteed all these moneys are locked.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
In it's up to.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
You.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Now can he squash any of this with a knock
it out of the park press? Conference maybe even though
little comedy and, LOOK i broke Wedding crasters rule number.
SIX i drew attention to myself in a negative. WAY
i didn't really want to draw attention to myself in
a negative, way but HERE i Am i'm in.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Purple i'm fired.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Up to be with the Jet you, KNOW i bet
you he won't Be he'll be a purple hat that
he's wearing that Says Utah. Jazz.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
On do you think they'll introduce him in like a
red and Green Utah jazz. Hat we're talking different colored? Lids,
ian what do you?

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Think oh, MAN i don't have any input on the hat.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Already this is.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Probably part of the NBA's problem because now you got
all these people confused Because Matla, walk for, example was
wearing A rockets hat when he got Drafted.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
One they had traded that bit.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Into the confusing and that whole you know you get dealt,
here and then they traded beforehand and they were still
wearing the wrong team's hats and. Stuff that happens every year, Though.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
That's why where's the?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Line where's the?

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Linewards But, alex that's like a pretty good point, Though
like if he If Ace bailey wanted, TO i don't
know if he, would but if he wanted to just
straight up set the entire record, straight he's in his
power to do. That it's still soon enough where he
could fire his. Agent This omar. GUY i get it's
a close relationship, whatever but if you know he would do,
that he would gain so much public support just from

(54:39):
that decision. Alone if he shows up at his uh
his press conference and he is, like, GUYS i am
so bought. In i've seen all this. STUFF i don't.
Care I'm i'm so happy to be At Utah, jazz
all this can be. Gone it's not even a topic.
Anymore the topic is who's who's excited to Watch Ace.
BAILEY i agree With Mark.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
King that's WHY i, Say jerry Rown, man let's go
ahead and get in front of.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
This like you how you can't let other people be
talking for?

Speaker 4 (55:02):
You it's not too. Late what can you do? Both
can you keep your agent and still make it?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Right? YEAH i think Is, HONESTLY i think is as
long as you show up to work and are not
giving any implication that you don't want to do, so
everything will be. Fine even if he, Stinks even if
he gets to the next level and he's, Terrible, like
nobody's gonna be, like, well he's terrible because he doesn't
want to play for.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
YOU i just feel like the way he's entered the
league right, now he almost has to show he wants
to be. There it's not gonna be good enough now
to just you, know be a net neutral Like i'm
fine being, Here like you need to show you're happy
to be here because of the way this.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
STARTED i.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Agree speaking of guys who came into the, league there's.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
A i'm scratching my head, literally but it is actually
a head scratching article FROM pff the ceiling in the
floors for every second year quarterback ahead of the twenty
twenty five. Season i'll just say, this these sealing and
floors need a little bit of. Renovations that's all, Right
we got our hire hats. Ready Alex, Monico Martin, Wiss
Fox Sports, radio a little football talk here on A

(56:10):
Fox Sports. Saturday martin weis joined here With Alex. Monica
you get us On. Twitter i'm At Martin, Wise alex
At Alex, Underscore, Underscore Monico, underscore Sweared, Underscore square Double.
Underscore so, Uh John Costco costco wrote this. Article go

(56:31):
give it a click ON, Pff the ceiling and floors
for every second Year. QUARTERBACK i had the twenty twenty five,
season just to round out the roster of these, quarterbacks
you'd Have Caleb, williams who was the first pick in
last year's, Draft Jaydon, Daniels Drake, May Michael Pennix, JUNIOR jj,
McCarthy And Bow. Knicks Now, Here i'll run through these real.

(56:56):
Quick you tell me which one you think is the most,
ridiculous or.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Let me not lead the. Witness you just tell me your.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Opinions all, Right let's start by least games played to,
Most all.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Right J d McCarthy, ceiling, So Joe burrow.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Floor Sam darnell says, pff all, Right Michael Pennix. Jr,
Ceiling Justin herbert, Floor Jamis, winston all. Right Then Drake may,
Ceiling Trevor lawrence, Floor Daniel, jones Then Jayden daniels who was,

(57:35):
Ceiling Lamar jackson, Floor Kyler, murray and THEN Cayleb williams,
Ceiling Jordan love floor. Bust, NOW i have a lot
of things here THAT i have takes. On but what

(57:57):
was your first AS i just set that up for?
You what was your first thought.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
THAT jj McCarthy will never even sniff The Joe burrow?

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Ceiling, okay BECAUSE i also went down that, PATH i
also was, Thinking, okay that doesn't make much, sense because,
WELL i just say.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
This every year going through the.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Draft there's one of my this is one of my
staple rules Of Martin white's draft.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Evaluations i'm all in a, RIGHT i got a pen.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Out at least one of the highly touted quarterbacks will not.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Last at least one of them will.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Stink, NOW i don't know if that's gonna BE jj
McCarthy Michael, penick but we've seen the other five and
they all kind of add some pretty good. Years AND
i was worried ABOUT jj coming out of, college also
with the knee, injury also with The vikings.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Doing here you. GO i wanna talk about.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
An old school REFERENCE mtv next, thing the quarterback, situation
as they're just coming off the, bus would you please
come on?

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Next would you come on? Next will you come on?
Next and just to stay with the one that you've.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Been with WITH jj, McCarthy cause for, Concern.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Martin you're a little close to home with it being
A michigan.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Alum this is again a little bit one of those
scenarios WHERE i need to see it at the next
level BEFORE i believe. It there was no better system
two years ago than The Jimmy Harbaugh michigan ground and
pound trenches built in to out type roster that all McCarthy.

(59:45):
Ns he was very, prolific but all he was really
tasked to do was not mess it.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Up and not only not mess it. Up but when
you say the ceiling Is Joe, BURROW i am a
car carrying black, card member of The Joe burrow Fan.
CLUB i get. ALL i get ten times points back
on Expenses Joe, Burrow i'm in The.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Lowne complimentary beverage is at The Burroughs President.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
But i'd be lying IF i didn't have to Say
i've never once Seen Joe burrow achieved success without at
least one mega top level. Receiver, now the good thing
is Justin jefferson plays In, minnesota just Like Jamar chase
has played With Joe burrow for like college and the.

(01:00:34):
Pros but that's the one that gives me a lot
of costs for. Concern there here's the other. One there's
again a lot with. This but if the floor For
Caleb williams is bust and the floor For Drake may
Is Daniel, jones it's not the floor For Caleb williams
And Drake may both. BUST i don't even know where to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Start Idaniel, jones also, compwise is Not Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
May Daniel, jones.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
An introvert who said three words and how many seasons
In New, york who is a sneaky, athlete but certainly
gotta get better.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Exactly it's certainly not a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
GUNSLINGER i mean to, Me Drake, may he's got a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
To.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
ME i think he's more of a gun slinger and
a little bit more of a wild card Than Daniel.
Jones it seems like a buttoned up, protocol old SCHOOL i,
form you, know run, twice throw at a third. Time
move that changed kind of, quarterback, right what say? YOU i,
MEAN i don't even.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Understand That Drake May Daniel. JONES i Think Drake may
has an opportunity to be. Dynamic at no point DID
i Think Daniel jones he tackled himself the one time
he ran in the open.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Field, yeah that was. It Daniel jones was A i
don't want to say he was a media creation because
he never really got started. There but like we do
this every, year this is one of the ones that
told me is like one of these quarterbacks is going to.
Stink we do it every, year like he's not gonna
work out for all of these.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Guys the WAY i take, it, though is That Daniel
jones is more of just like a very low end,
starter you, know maybe maybe a. Backup and that's what they.
Say you, Know Drake mays flora is Versus Caleb williams
calling him a. Bust you, know whether you Think Daniel
jones is a, BUST i think he probably. Is BUT
i think when they Call Caleb Williams flora, bus that
probably just means he's not even AN nfl.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Quarterback that is.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Surreal that's gotta be the number one thing that sticks Are,
martin what say?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
YOU i will tell you the number one and, Two
but really the number one problem THAT i had with.
This in just a minute after we kick it To
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Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Sports, steve you're. Up let's.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
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(01:04:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Off keep it. On let's keep it on the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Time so let's go back to this ceilings and floors
for every second year quarterback ahead of the twenty twenty five.
Season there's a lot on this, list but to, me
the second most egregious thing on this list is saying
That Drake may's ceiling could Be Trevor. Lawrence is? That

(01:06:28):
is that a Dig it feels like that's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
One, yeah it feels like an. Insult got a touchdown
seven interceptions last year?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Mine are you gonna say? That it's like getting the
award for being the smartest kid in summer? School you,
Know it's, like, Sure i'm, here but Like Trevor lawrence right,
NOW i think the Old i'll put it like, This.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Jacksonville seems to be sure they paid him the money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Clearly, Yeah i'm not speaking for myself or anybody who
can figure hear this of my?

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Voice are you? Sure i'm not sure he looks it
more than he's playing it right? Now you mean looks
it in the pictures on the. Side What i'm, saying
he looks like he could be a.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Stud now he's closer to being a cast In Blue
Mountain state the reboot than he has taken tax of
all the.

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
PLAYOFFS i, Digress but to, Me Trevor lawrence is far
from a slam dunk. QUARTERBACK i think pushing top ten, maybe,
like but squarely in the range of, like uh, Maybe, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Martin you know the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
History how many guys stud overall number one all the
way through high, school college and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Drafted it's a very short, list and he is definitely
living it, down not living it up to those.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Expectations SO i.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Think That drake manage a chance to be better than.
That AND i think Also drake will benefit from only
having one year of dysfunction around the coaching staff and so,
on BECAUSE i Think rabel runs a pretty tight ship.
Yep SO i think they'll be fine on that. Front
Whereas Girod mayo seemed to be a little bit over his.
Head the most egregious thing on this list, though docs

(01:08:08):
me the most ridiculous thing on this, list, like and
he starts out early with, it So, i'm you, know
but the idea that the ceiling For Caleb.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Williams Is Jordan.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Love that so and Soulting Caleb williams might be better
Than Jordan love right now is we're talking out might
be right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Now when you look At Jordan love and the resources
that he has had around. Him, sure no number one,
receiver But Matt lafour knows what he's. DOING i remember
saying three years, ago either this guy Is Vince lombardi
or he's gonna have a ridiculous fall from grace because
his winning percentage is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Incredible all he does is win.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
GAMES i get that they went into that postseason game
they was and went to the postseason game beat The
cowboys in a game in which cost uh uh now
camera it is a sliding doors, moment but somebody would
got paid biggest anyway in a game in Which dak.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Loses that playoff game plays.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Terribly but it's Really, josh Not Josh, jacobs who's the
other The Green Bay Aaron jones had like tw one
hundred and seventy five yards. Rushing Jordan love gets fifty
million dollars and then throws almost throws two. Interceptions the
next game in the postseason Against San, Francisco Drake greenalock dropped.
One it was a rainy THAT i remember sitting right

(01:09:24):
here on the radio watching it on A, saturday the
second round of THE nfl. Playoffs since, Then Jordan love
is so up and down to me that it's, LIKE,
ok do you know you're up and? Down when The
internet has found a theme as to why you are
up and? Down Jordan love has That toyota, sponsorship and

(01:09:46):
when you look at The toyota Th on sponsorship or, whatever,
yeah you know they do it similar runs like With
Lexus december to remember or. Whatever his numbers during that stretch.
Incredible if numbers outside of that stretch.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Harenue, well he's also in the most functional or one
of the most functional organizations you could possibly. Have he
was slipped in to a system that had a built
in said culture with. Winning he Had rogers as an.
Understudy Caleb williams has gone into absolute dysfunction across the.

(01:10:21):
Board defensive coach, fired interim. Coach No one outside of
What Jay cutler in our entire, lifetime and that does
not Include Rex grossman has lit it up under center For.
CHICAGO i think it's absurd to Call Caleb williams Ceiling Jordan, love.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Because what Is Jordan love? Seals that's What i'm. Saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Conceptually, yeah, sure If Jordan love played, well this is
the first half of the, year he's hot and then
struggles in the second half of the, year he struggles
in the first half and gets hot in the, second
whichever one it, is it's true for the whole. Time
if you played like that the first a games of the,
year if you played like that all the, time then
he would be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
A no doubt top five quarterback in the. League but he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Doesn't and when you look at.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
You you outlined it a little.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Bit But i'll go back and go through all the,
dirty nasty details of what happened yesterday last year In,
chicago where you fire your offensive coordinator six weeks, in
the head coach gets fired ten weeks. In so now
you've Got Thomas, brown who is the interim head, coach
who was hired as the passing game. Coordinator, well now

(01:11:27):
he went from being the assistant to the assistant to becoming.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
A guy with a parking spot at. Work, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
In the span of what three, Weeks like that's that
you are. Not there's no way anyone could be successful
in that. Stretch then look at his touchdown interception. Ratio
look at.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Him stuff that was. Good like he got sacked a million.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
TIMES i get, that but you know what he got
up every like and losing that game In, washington losing
that game In.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Detroit both of, those both of those had timeouts on the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Clock The detroit radio broadcast says in the, Moment Lomus brown,
Says chicago's coach just lost his. Job they're going to
fire him after.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
This like what more Could Caleb williams have done last?
Year that's What i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Saying you give him a little, infrastructure AND i don't
even know how Good Ben johnson will be as an
overall head, Coach BUT i know that he's gonna Have
Caleb williams Right, LIKE i know that for. Sure oh,
Yeah like Will Ben johnson be good at the post?
Game will he'd be right calling time? OUT i don't
know about, that BUT i know if he can just
call plays that offense will be. Efficient he.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Said Several bears rookie single season passing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Records several feel free to read them out. Loud that's under.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Dysfunction with turnover out head coach in your rookie, Season
Jordan love ain't doing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
That it also is a true mark of just how
dark it's been for The bears.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Quarterback yeah number because rookie, season single seas rookie single
season passing, record, completions, yards, touchdowns six interceptions ties with
the fewest by A bears quarterback in the season for
fewest by a rookie IN nfl. History that's interception, right
that's touchdowns by interceptions for A bears, quarterback nearly five

(01:13:23):
hundred dards, rushing most ever for a rookie quarterback for
three hundred dard passing. Games and, again the passing game
coordinator was the offensive coordinator by week, six it was
the head coach by week, ten and his floors BUST
i got.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Questions there's also the fact, THAT i, MEAN i feel
like our friends A pff here are kind of just
overreacting to one. Year because there's also the fact that
For Jaden, daniels the floor Is, Kyler like that's pretty
insane to. Me Like kyler's a GOOD nfl, quarterback you,
know like he's there have been times Throughout kyler's career
where he's been AN mvp. Candidate you can think what

(01:13:57):
you want about him, now but he's played like. That
so to say that That's Jaden daniels's, floor Maybe. JORDAN i,
Mean Jayden daniels was, Great but that's why it's also
to then just Say Caleb williams' floor is a.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
BUST i think this guy might be like. THAT i
think we're talking about A vikings.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Fan i'd like to find out what kind OF Nfc
north friendly fires going on over.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
HERE i do want to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Know, Yeah Sam donald as the floor. Here Sam donald
also was in THE mvp conversation until about week thirteen last,
year even IF i was the only one having the,
conversation BECAUSE i was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Like look at him numbers and if you caught last
week So martin guests correctly he's the grandson of The Marlborough.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Man, yeah so there you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Go that was who you got from. It but, uh,
yeah What's Sam? Donald are we talking? About you know?

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
What you know what this?

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
List can we be honest if we're doing a draft
right now and starting, Franchises i'm pretty sure you AND
i are both Taking Caleb Williams as this mock up
gets destroyed live on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
It i'm absolutely Drafting Caleb williams out Of Caleb, Williams Jordan,
Love Drake, may And Trevor.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Lawrence i'm Taking Caleb williams, first as AM. I NOW
i might get to go With Dadon.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Daniels look at the start a fire over. Here all,
right coming up, next these obviously guilty of some poor.
Comparisons we'll tell you who's innocent and guilty in another
edition Of Sports. Court that's, Next, Yeah Martin Weiss Alis,
Monico it's time for another of sports.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Courts all, Right Sports, court we are.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Backs ar'm just pulling up the accused, Here so just
a little rundown of how the rules. WORK i have
a bunch of people from the world of sports that
are accused of, something whether it be an actual crime or.
Not we're bringing them to the court of sports public opinion,
here and you guys are gonna tell me whether they're
guilty or not. Guilty so let's jump right. In Lincoln

(01:16:01):
riley And Dan lanning stand. Accused so The Texas, bobcats
according to multi multiple, reports are set to become the
eighth football sponsoring.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Member of the new LOOK pac twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Conference still Joined Oregon, State Washington, State Fresno, State San Diego,
State Utah, State Boise state In Colorado state is the
schools of field football. Teams so that's a big downgrade
and talent from what THE pac twelve used to. Be
AND usc And oregon were the first brands to leave
THE pac, Twelve that's what it. Was so head coaches
OF usc And, Oregon Lincoln riley And Dan, lanning guilty

(01:16:31):
or not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Guilty i'm going with, guilty Especially Lincoln, riley because you
all you did was switch over there to go get.
Whooped and that's always been happening In big. Ten it's
always going to continue to happen because you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Did they.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Is don't build them out here like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
That then the core fed big old Dootchen hill offensive
lines do not exist In Los. Angeles you got a
lot of wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Out, here. Though alex, Guilty you're not. Guilty i'm co,
Signing i'm squad riding guilty of what they saying he.
Did he did that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
All.

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
Right next, Up Billy, Donovan bulls head, coach you stand
Accused Lonzo. Ball as you guys mentioned earlier in the,
show he's being traded to The cavaliers from The bulls
For isaac, o'coro a former first round picking his own, Right,
MARTIN i know you specifically have some thoughts on, This
So Billy donovan guilty or not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Guilty i'm going innocent For Billy, donovan guilty for the.
Innocent you're letting them go again only because of the.
Bill this is The bulls front. Office this is, ridiculous
And Billy donovan got extended by this same front.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Office so you know. What you picked, him you keep.
Him this is your. FAULT i gotta go Guilty Billy.
DONOVAN i don't know who's more.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Frustrating, look he's not a bad, coach but he's not
a great. Coach he's clinging to a pre iPhone championship
In florida, plural and they can't win fifty days.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Guilty remember he's also the thunder coach Before Mark dagnol Great.
Dog Angel reese stands. Accused so the twenty three year
old W nba player for The Chicago sky recently released
new merch branded with Me. Bounds she also has applied
for a trademark on the term, resbounds so she's evidently
embracing all The, hayden you know all that stuff having

(01:18:16):
to do with her rebounding and all. That So Angel reese,
guilty are not, guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Not, guilty you're letting them go. AGAIN i think this is.
HILARIOUS i think she needs to get better around the.
Rim don't get me, wrong she has to get better
around the. Rim but the idea that you can take
what people are saying it's a disparaging thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
And being, like, Yeah i'll get a double double me bound, Me,
Yeah i'm with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
You not, Guilty reese bounds, me. Bounds they've both got
a ring to. It i'm a Big angel. RESPAN i love.
It flip it on the haters and hit them with double.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Doubles plur all.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
Right next, Up Bill belichick stands. Accused belichick was on
The Let's go podcast and had a bit of a
hot take here he said THE nfl should renamed The
Lombardi trophy to The Tom Brady. Trophy his reasoning was
that he believes players are why you win The Super
bowl at. All so you, know seeing A bradys won
seven of, them seven of, them it should be. Him
So Bill, belichick, Guilty you're not, guilty, Guilty he's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Guilty you can see it on his smug little.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Face, GUILTY i think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Guilty you're not you're not rehabbing your immature billy. BOY
i don't. Care i'm not buying. It i'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Going and you got a little too much not quiet an,
asterisk but the whole spygate. Thing you have too many
gates to be renamed with stuff after. Years i'm going.
Guilty you you can't do this on the LUTs go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Pod do it on a Non brady output, STATION tv.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
WHATEVER i don't. Know this feels a little pandering to the, Moment,
oh a little.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
Sticking with The Tom brady theme. Here Sidney sweeney stands.
Accused so reports say That Tom brady was chatting up
and spending time with Actress Sidney sweeney At Jeff bezos's.
Wedding brady's forty, Seven sweeney is twenty, seven so there's
a twenty year age gap. There but you, know to
each his, own it's alleged that they danced together until two.
Am So Sidney sweeney guilty or not? Guilty she's, innocent,

(01:20:09):
innocent AND weo.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Clean that's the best. One she's. Anocent who's really?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Guilty the guy you talked about it the story Before Bill,
belichick the fifty year age.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Gift it's absurd on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
This sub little face guilty pick.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Good we've done the twenty a, Minute we've done the
twenty co sign it too.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
Far i'm co signing with. Them job, there spot on
guilty all, right one more quick. One Kelsey plum stands.
Accused THE wnba as a whole has been going through
a weird shooting slump. Recently From beyond The, arc star
players Like, Plum Caitlyn, Clark sabrino Y, nescu, pagebackers and,
more they've all struggled mightily over the past month From
beyond The. Arc So plumb responded to An instagram graphic highlighting, that,
saying because we're tired with laughing, Emojis Kelsey plumb.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Guilty you're not, guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Innocent the way they're doing the schedule is ridiculous innocent
like the w.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Schedule, Leen it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
You're listening To Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Rado that's why we're broadcasting live from The Fox Sports
radio studios here on A Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Saturday, So, alex we had a few things we'll hit
on right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Here but let's first take a minute and go back
to some quotes from a couple of days, ago Because
nuggets President Josh cronke, decided seemingly out of nowhere to,
SAY i would like to burn the entire franchise down
to anybody have a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Match, now it's not a direct. Quote i'm. Paraphrasing i'm. Paraphrasy,
yeah but he.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Goes and says, that you, know he, says if the
wrong person gets injured very, quickly you're into a scenario
that you'd never want to have to. Contemplate and that's
trading number fifteen. Deep earlier on this, show and if you,
missed you can check out the, podcast we tried to
explain or understand some of the more head scratching moves

(01:22:04):
done in THE Nba draft prior this a head scratching
quote done a couple of days before the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Draft any logic to this for, You, no you don't
flirt with trading a generational talent who brought a championship
to the, city who's all, in who is dang near,
player coaching it up against the best in The west
in the middle of a series that wins seven that
if age didn't hurt his grown man hamstring they might have.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Stolen you don't stir the, Pot, martin you don't stir the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Pot so this was my, thought and it's just brought
up in the context though some of it was talking
about the extension for yokicch and so. On my thought is,
this we Watched Kristas worzenkez get. Traded we Watched Jordan poole.
Move this was the other big name that, Moved Kevin.

(01:22:56):
Durant Obviously Kevin durant was. Traded so we've seen some
big names get traded in this AND i think the
return that you've seen back Like Jalen green And brooks
FOR i don't love that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Return LIKE i don't think that's a great.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
RETURN i don't think getting Back George kneeang For chris
that's werzingis is a great, return, Right and so WHAT
i think he's attempting to do, Here Josh cronkey is
level set and expectation that everybody is on the, table
knowing that of my, roster fourteen or fifteen are actually

(01:23:34):
on the. Table but IF i SAY i might think
about Trading, jokic then IF i Trade Jamal.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Murray And Michael Porter, junior Or Aaron gordon or.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Whoever nobody can be mad about it Because i'm, like,
yo we might have to trade the big. Guy so
If i'm trying to move around in the, fringes because
think about, it there's conversation and this is all within
the concepts of the second. Apron sure there's conversations of
The celtics having to Trade. JALEN i just.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Don't know, though HOW i, FIRST i had a triple
check my. STIGMATISM i THOUGHT i got. CENTLED i thought
it WAS Nba.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
CENTRAL i thought it WAS ai at.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
FIRST i, mean how do you sit, there especially because
he said, fifteen Not jokic exactly, fifth BECAUSE i feel
like The jokis might be too hard for THE ai to.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Say, honestly, well why would you even entertain a nightmare
scenario in a NON ai?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
World how do you even entertain?

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
It?

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Martin why do you even Give nuggets fans who are
already beside? Themselves because if you want to GO nfl with,
it Ask Aaron, rodgers who wins games after you have no?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Coach it never. Happens it never.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Happens that was an unfathomable spot to put the players
in to not ride out With. Malone here we are
a month and a half later And josh is doing
this on the. Podium tell me this is not for
clicks in the dog days of Soon july N you, KNOW.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
I think it's for. THIS i think it is to
soften the blow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
When, DALLAS i mean, sorry When denver eventually Trades Jamal.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Murray it is to soften the blow to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
You watch that if you are doing if you're A
Denver nuggets, fan you've got to think.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Man two man, Games Jamal, Murray. Nicole the Jokis Jamal.
Murray And i'll put it like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
That if you're A lakers, Fan Jamal murray is public
enemy number one for you because he turns Into michael
Freaking jordan against The lakers and in some of those postseason.
Runs but he has been down the last he was
down last, year down The, olympics down at the postseason
run that going into.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
That he generally comes into the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Season a little out of, shape working on. Stuff so it's,
like if But joki is thirty right, now you need
a better running mate to go with, Him AND i
get people with Say joki Is murray's best two man
game in the. LEAGUE i hear, you but what are
you getting From Michael Porter? Junior because that feels like a?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Nothing what do you like?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Nothing For Aaron, Gordon he's going into the first season
of a one, year one hundred and thirty three million dollar.
Deal does he have a ton of value in a.
TRADEMARKET i don't think. SO i think he's got more
value to you than he does to another. TEAM i
Think Jamal murray's is the sweet spot that another team
could also.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Value you can get something back that would be.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Sizeable last week you were on Your sherlock connecting the
dots that TWO nba franchises sold because Of, luca and
here you are this. Week now you might be on
Your sherlock again because, honestly that would what you said
and laid out be the only reason you do something like,
this because you're just riling up a fan base that's

(01:26:41):
nothing But colorado rockis baseball to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Root for right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Now AND i made a bet With Steve, hartman who
hosts the show before us That Aaron. JUDGE i said
The rockies would have more wins Than Aaron judge would
have home runs this. Year It's june twenty, Eighth i'm
not looking, great looking great at. ALL i Think Aaron
judge might be able To Aaron judge could might miss
the rest of the, year AND i still wouldn't hit that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Bad BUT i do think it's it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Hardcap people are really really apprehensive about this second apron
AND i think that we almost now have to start
looking AT nba. Teams i'll say we're almost what we
guys are looking AT nba teams like we look AT
nfl teams where it's, like you can't pay this receiver
that much because of the context of the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Cap that's not a thing that exists in THE, nba
but it does exist in THE.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Nfl and now ONE nfl team having a little bit
of trouble with right, now The Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
STEELERS.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Tj watt has Been Bueller bueller for offseason workouts and
so on as he's looking for a new. Deal Another
pittsburgh defensive, Legend James, harrison was On, Nightcap Yeah you
Two tube show comes on nightly and he had a

(01:28:04):
criticism Of mike T With mike the the biggest.

Speaker 10 (01:28:10):
THING i guess THAT i liked about him is he
is a player's coach and the thing THAT i disliked
about him is he is a player's coach to a
point of sometimes it can disfrup you know What i'm,
saying because it goes maybe a little too far with
allowing certain, things you know What i'm saying with certain,

(01:28:31):
players and then it becomes an, issue you, know with that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Player so especially like towards the.

Speaker 10 (01:28:37):
End of my, career you, know the biggest thing, was you,
know you ask a tough, question you get a tough. Answer,
WELL i was asking tough questions AND i wasn't getting the,
answer you, KNOW i, was you, KNOW i was getting
told things that weren't the answer that was the true.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Answer Now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
I'm about sick and tired of this. MESS i really.
Am you know what this sounds like to? Me hit?
Me you know what the biggest problem is in my?
Marriage my wife is too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Pretty every time we go, out there's guys talking to,
her AND i can't we can't even go out of
the date because every TIME i get up and go
to the bathroom there's SOME jabbroni walking up there and say,
hey who you with and spite the big ring on her,
finger like what are? We how can the thing that
you like the most About Mike. Tomlin also be the

(01:29:27):
thing that you dislike the most About Mike. Tomlin i'm
sick and tired of These Pittsburgh steelers being just not
appreciative of what they got because they have. Been they
The Pittsburgh. Steelers they think they are AN nfl. Purgatory
that's what they, Think that's what their fans feel. Like

(01:29:47):
AND i would challenge you spend one minute as a
fan of A New Orleans, saints one minute as a
fan of The New York, jets one minute as a
fan of The San Diego, chargers covering.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Three of whom are represented on this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Show And i'll tell you what all of us with
trade the last twenty five years of what we've experienced
minus My Super bowl to the door of The, stakes
but also last twenty five years when we experienced for
the last twenty five years Of Pittsburgh taylor. FOOTBALL i love.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
It i'm riled, up ready to run through a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Wall.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Now the only thinking here Is Steelers. Country steeler's Alum
martin still feel like they're on the. Team, sure so
there's an element Where James harrison's emostly bought in and
upset again we've.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Come let's just.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
Say what it is from an offensive, standpoint Post, Roethlisberger
Matt canada.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Disaster, Sure Arthur smith failing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
AGAIN i mean you Had Todd, hayley which was all
kinds of issues during The talman. ERA i wonder if
there's a little bit Of harrison maybe Saying tomlin's unbelievable with,
us but when it's time to be adults in the
room and call out other, coaches maybe he's coach friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Too can we know other than that reality you have
to own.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
THAT i think that the hiring and firing of, coaches assistant,
COACHES i put that on head. COACHES i know that
it's not a as linear as. That sometimes a lot
of times the front offices will be involved in the.
Decisions BUT i put it on most head coaches that
have a lot of power are also the head coaches
that are choosing their coordinators and hiring their. Coordinators SO

(01:31:22):
i put that if.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
You hire a bad, coordinator that's on.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
You and let me throw this to, you defensive player
who held up their silo bargain every single season pretty
much under The James harrison, era the, Defense, sure do
you think there's a world In Pittsburgh steelers day to
day life where, yeah you're sitting there is the defense, going,
yo we do. This we're top ten in points against

(01:31:46):
pasty or rushdie turnover differential every Single tomlin. Year can
we get some reciprocation on the other side of?

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Football AND i can hear that and be appreciateve of.
It and sometimes some of those defenses fell in big
moments that the fact is you'll get to big moments
Like that's WHAT i think everybody just misses here that
like The Pittsburgh steelers are starting god knows who at

(01:32:14):
quarterback over the last years and still stay five with.
This if The, steelers if other organizations had the same
roster situations That pittsburgh, does they would be, three four
or five win.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Team completely, Agree so it sounds like THE gm should
be getting to blame That tomlin's getting, RIGHT i would.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
AGREE i think also To tomlin probably has a role in,
that not as big as a role as Like Bill
belichick who was doing all of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
It SO i think is it perfect In.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Pittsburgh. No WHAT i like to see A i think
the best teams that you see like A Kansas city for,
example there's a great marriage BETWEEN gm and, coach right they,
are they were really working. Together BUT i Think andy
will SAY i don't want this. Guy BUT i don't
Think andrew's going saying we have to go get this guy.

(01:33:07):
Right AND i think that's a big. DIFFERENCE i think
that you could Probably tomlin could probably stand to take
a little walk back.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
There do you also feel when you're a player's, coach
leader of men culture center Like, tomlin can it often
be missed that you might be not as detail oriented
with x's and o's because, you're, oh by the, way
building up fifty three grown men to be, Leaders so
you might miss a little bit of. Details thus why

(01:33:37):
we've looked At Pittsburgh Steelers, futchell maybe a little.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Bit SO i do think THAT i would. Agree i'd,
say especially when you look at some of The tomlin
numbers off short, rest like the gambling numbers that we
would look at numbers off, yeah versus short rest versus long,
rest like the long rest numbers are kind of. Damaging
it's like that doesn't make a lot of such a
short rest numbers a little higher than you, Expect, oh
BECAUSE i could just get up.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Here not a lot of preparation going on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
There but the fact of the matter is, that LIKE
i sit up Every i've been doing this show now
for three. Years that's three hiring, cycles AND i had
to sit here and hear about How mike McDaniel was
going to revolutionize football through the x's and, o's and
you know what he can't do get his players in.
Line like your, point getting your players in line is step.

(01:34:23):
One step two is then what are we running? Here because, Honestly,
tomlin go hire the hot young, name the hot offensive,
Coordinator go hire the defensive, Court go Get Ben, johnson
if you if you you know What i'm, saying years past.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
Or, WHATEVER i think that has been a big criticism Of,
tomlin though IF i can jump, it, LOOK i think
it's just the fact that he's been incapable of building
up an offensive staff because he's he's a defensive.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Guys, WELL i HAVE i have two words for, you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Gentlemen that's gonna rewrite the entire narrative for this upcoming football.
Season and the first word starts WITH a and the
second word starts with. Our you, Know i'm going down
with a our.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Baby And Aaron rodgers is the best quarterback That tomlin
has had in the last five. Years thank, you like
thank you for saying. THAT i think that this is
the best shot that they have to win a playoff
game in the last five.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Years it's if we're gonna be all adults And Aaron
rodgers is married, NOW i guess seemingly say the same
timeline as our, Guy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Martin even that can't be normal With rogers, though it's
gotta be, like.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Oh, yeah you, know it turns, Out but these unbelievable
culture teams that win, games it's it's adults in the.
Room brady handles the, Offense belichick handles the rest of the.
Overhead it's the same thing With mahomes And reid and
of course the whole offensive staff With, Mahomes can They

(01:35:47):
Martin steelers alum get in the reality that this could
be top talent with top culture and perfect timing on
That matt top.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Talent GET i get Your i'm not trying to, argue
BUT i do THINK i do find it interesting now
What James harden. Said James harrison, said, rather when he
started asking hard questions and he wasn't getting what he
deemed to be the right, Answer i'd love to know
what those questions.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Are are those questions why AM i playing? Less you?
Know not great? Thought?

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Like or is because like you hear that as a
fan right as from where we, sit we, hear, hey
what's up With Le'Veon?

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Bell will you think when you're asking these?

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Hardway what's up With Antonio? Brown or is the question
Just James harrison saying why AM i not playing as?
Much why DO i have to go To New england
and maybe? Play and let's not forget that he had to.
LEAVE i mean he, Left so did he leave on unbelievable?
Terms whoever does not? Many so speaking of leaving on
or trying to come to terms this STAR nfl player

(01:36:51):
and STAR nfl, owner we're going down the same path
we do every summer around this. Time And i'll explain
coming up, Next.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
What keep it locked right, here because in about thirty six,
Minutes Aaron torres And Jason martin are coming. On we
just got a preview of What torres has to. Say oh, yeah,
LISTEN i told Him i'm taking that For, monday just
so you, Know just so you, Know i'm taking that For.
Monday coming to you a lot From Fox Sports Radio.
Studios I'm Martin wise joined it With Alex. Monico, alex

(01:37:26):
you know it's the summer blockbuster. Season oh, yeah and
we are about to see another edition of one of
the NFL's favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Movies we've seen it the last two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Summers but get ready everybody For Jerry jones Versus The
Salary Cap part.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Three but now we got A LANDMAN IMDb credit underneath his.
Belt now the acting really began coming.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
To us see a movie theater near. You Michael parson's
and the contract. NEGOTIATIONS i, mean he's obviously up for the.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
Deal.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Now Trey hendrickson up for a deal as. Well he's
got more sex Than Michael parsons over the last few.
Years he can't get one. Done but it is In, cincinnati,
Right so that's another. Thing Miles garrett was up for a.
Deal he got one Done. PITTSBURGH Tj wild up for a.
Deal like we just talked about in the last, edgement
he is m I a at the. Moment Michael parsons
attending in and out of the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Varied.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Attendance, however the money has not been.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Shown Jerry, maguire it has.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
NOT i did see him At Fanatics fest next TO
kd right when he got.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Traded thank, God Michael parson was able to afford to
be able to go out The Fanatics. Fest thank.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Goodness, yeah this is. INTERESTING i think it's it's one
of those.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
Scenarios ideally you retain him for a price that doesn't
reset the. MARKET i don't see how he doesn't reset the.
Market but Ideally i'd be a. MILLIONAIRE i Deally i'd
be six to. One the, reality, though is like a
million bucks for me SIX i want to be SIX
ti Me marn's, hight that's. All you might be six

(01:39:04):
to two and a. Half but, No i'm looking at
them paying dak not on the correct. Timing then you
can make a case they really don't even time the
CD lamb record setting.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Deal and now here we, Are.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Martin you have to almost double down on your assets
that you drafted that you want to. Retain Because Cowboys
nations off one of the worst, seasons believe it or,
not in a.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Decade so prior to about week fifteen of this, YEAR
i was, like you have to get it. Done you
have to get this deal. Done sign, right sign the,
deal get it. Done offer it. Now off for it last.
Year offer it two years ago because you could. Have
but now After Miles garrett got.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Paid, man If i'm The, cowboys that might be open for.
Business you think.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
It's one of THOSE I and It's, trey if It's,
wah if It's. Micah are all these agents well slow
playing this because whoever goes first gets the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Least, WELL i Think miles said it. Already you Had Max,
Crosby that's that's the ONE i forgot. Already But Max
crosby got his deal, first and Then miles topped. That
AND i Think miles topped the number, Right SO i
think that and If micah maybe he'll get more guaranteed
or something like.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
That but at this, point we have seen The.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Dallas we've seen this, quarterback running, back defensive player combo
Like DeMarcus.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Lawrence they just moved off from. Him you know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
What he was at one point in time the highest
paid defensive lineman in. Football Because Jerry jones is bad
at this and at this, point you have missed your
window to be able to Maximize Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Parsons so what you have to do because you were,
late because.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
You slept on, it because you were too busy doing
something else besides getting this. Done you almost have to
move on and Give Brian schottenheimer an opportunity to try
to rebuild some of that that was a bad team last.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Year so you're moving, OFF i WOULD i am calling
to see what the market can.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Offer the only thing that's different About hendrickson And watt
is their thirty And MICA's twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
SIX i don't know how you move.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Off him and in a again really a not a
home run Front paige, signing going from McCarthy To, schottenheimer
you have to retain your star.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
LINEBACKER i.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Agree should The Dallas cowboys have done everything in their
power to make Sure Micah parsons was going to be
A Dallas cowboy for eight years from the minute after.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
They moved him to defensive end full?

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Time?

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Absolutely however they did. Not and at this point it's
like we have a friend that starts to gain weight
and it's, like you know, What, hey you need to
hit the. Gym two years, later you really need to
hit M four years, Later, hey it's time for. Surge
you got to go to the, doctor. Buddy it's time
we got to look into some of the maybe get
one of these o zepic deals going on because it's

(01:42:08):
too late for the.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
GYM i FEEL i feel like The mica ship might
have sailed when they Signed Ceedee, lamb.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
The micah's, ship the. Boat, sure, absolutely yeah WHAT i,
say you, said you said, it but it sounded because.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
The micahship did.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
So, Yeah But i'm with.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
YOU i just don't know optics, wise how how they
recover if you move off.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Them, MARTIN i think it's bad news in the world Of.
Dallas and then you know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
It it's.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
It's a you got a little bit of a barnyard
musical going on over. There It's jerry's. World there's a carnival.
Element it's it's he is a household name and a.
Unicorn that's an on and off the field top. Talent
and if you're Going hollywood with, it you have to
pay those.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
LISTEN i, Agree it's just at a certain point in
time is only so much money to go, around and
you bungled.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
It you bungled, it just like The. Bengals but, honestly.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Can you Pay Ceee lamb and not pay your star
linebacker that also you can plug and play in a.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Couple he can pass, rush he can drop in. COVERAGE i,
MEAN i just feel like they shouldn't have Paid. Lamb,
obviously he agree with. You he deserved the.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
Contract it's just the fact that you paid a weapon
and you see the amount of talented receivers coming into
the draft every single, year like it's just a team building.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Perspective it was not the most.

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
Prudent move, totally but you've already done, it so at this,
point it is what it. Is you can get multiple
first for Pirate. Parsons i'm kind of with, You.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Martin, WOW i think you could at least get a
first and a, player you know What i'm, saying a
first and an impact player and at.

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
Least but at this, guy you're talking about one of
the best defensive players in THE. Nfl why not multiple.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
First that's a good.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
POINT i wonder What Brian burns went for two first. Rounders,
YEAH i, mean there's the factors to pay. Him let's
just let's just live in this.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
World THE pff has The eagles linebacker corps ranked. First
guess who's a top ten pass rush might be top
five this. Year it's not a hot. Take The New
York Football giants and you're gonna let your star linebacker
go in a division that you don't have the luxury
to play mediocre.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
DEFENSE i don't see.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
How you can't not do it well to his point
that he just made The giants had a top five
pass rush last, year and traded and got two first round,
right traded and Trade Brian burns To.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Carolina, alright, alright my, bad you know what with. That
let's cook it. Over steve To, SEGER i need a.

Speaker 8 (01:44:38):
Break by the, Way chargers training camp starts in a few.
Weeks players were Four july. Sixteenth it's gonna Be july next.
Week chargers who see play in the NFL's hall Of
fame exhibition in Late. July as for The Major League baseball,
scoreboard there's just one late game In. Anaheim The angels
lead one nothing over The nationals in the bottom of
the fourth. Inning pittsburgh was up three to two on The.

(01:45:00):
Mets in the eighth nine two pirates the. Final atlanta
Beat philadelphia six to, one winning Pitcher spencer schwellenback twelve
strikeouts in seven. Innings The phillies are first in THE,
nl still a half game over The. Mets The cubs
won twelve three At, houston ending The stros five game winning.
Streak Kyle tucker ex Of, houston four, hits four run,
scored including a three run. Homer boston fifteen to one Over,

(01:45:24):
toronto the loss To Chris, bassett who is down nine
to one in the third. Inning Saint louis came back
for victory At cleveland nine to. Six The cardinals trailed
six to one in the. Fourth wins For milwaukee and
The White. Sox wins For San diego And Kansas, city
which held on to beat The dodgers nine to, five
ten inning wins For miami and For Texas detroit ten
to five Over. Minnesota The tigers record is fifty two

(01:45:47):
and thirty. Two Tampa bay is second in The Al,
east just a half game behind The. Yankees yanks got
shut out at home by The a's today seven to,
nine thing While Tampa bay won eleven three At. Baltimore
hall Of fame Outfielder Dave parker died at the age
of seventy. Four he'll be inducted In cooperstown in a.
Month in nineteen seventy seven and seventy, Eight parker won

(01:46:07):
THE nl batting title and gold gloves each year and
was N L mvp in nineteen seventy. Eight his career
batting average was two. Ninety Cleveland cavaliers acquired Guard Lonzo
ball from The, bulls And cleveland will resign Guard Sam.
Merrill Golden state Gave Jonathan cominga a qualifying. OFFER nba
free agency starts next. Week clippers Forward Nicholas batoum declined

(01:46:28):
his contract option but could re. Sign ONE wnba game, Tonight,
dallas which was four and, thirteen got a home win
Against washington seventy nine seventy, one even Though Page beckers
did not, play resting her. Knee The Anaheim ducks traded
Goalie John gibson To. Detroit THE nhl draft concluded In la.
Today Patrick reid leads by three strokes at The Livgolf

(01:46:50):
tournament In. Miami NASCAR's racing At atlanta, tonight their approaching
lap two hundred of the two sixty, Scheduled Chase elliott
in the. Lead Ryan preese is. RUNNING Us men's soccer
plays Its Gold cup quarterfinal On sunday Against Costa rica
In minnesota On FOX. Tv mexico's early in its game
scoreless Against Saudi arabia right now on fswan back to.

Speaker 7 (01:47:12):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
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get off the. Air so moving from A dallas cowboy

(01:47:35):
star to Another dallas cowboy, star Our dallas Former dallas
stars should, Say Luka doncics now In Los angeles and
the paparazzi has been. Paparazziing they are taking a ton
of pictures Of Luca, donchez of WHICH i am made
aware of because they talk, about oh my, goodness look

(01:47:55):
how Skinny luca. Looks this is a big deal to
our Producer, IAN i know that to be, sure this, One,
hey this Is, ai.

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
This Is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Ai this picture right here That i'm looking at, It
this one has to be all. Right that one has
to be As i'm scrolling down a list of pictures
that is a a all. Right now again MY ai
to to real. Ratio it is swinging and missing a
Lot this one looks real. Though this one Courtside buzzeye
g with some kid in The slovenian basketball shirt As

(01:48:26):
luca's sitting down somewhere and he's got a a shirt
as they call them At. Target you know on you,
know someone with the shoulders. Out you see him on,
cops not the, cops the people THE tv show, cops
the people who is you, know the guest. Stars they'd
be wearing them. Anyway luca in, that AND i guess looks.

(01:48:47):
Skinnier so my question to you, is hit, me do you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
CARE i care on so many.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
Levels let's just let's just take a step back, here
BECAUSE i find it fascinating that he's living in The
south and festively. Plump luca gets no. Pushback he's in The,
south he's eating, well he's. Fine he comes To, hollywood
all of a sudden he's getting The Chris pratt treatment
From parks and. REC i, mean out of, nowhere his

(01:49:15):
entire physique is getting. Shirped and, that to me is
a classic case of going from a happier, Place i'd
like to, think to a place where how you look is.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
Everything so it's clearly gotten to him for, Me Chris
rock said it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Best but they always want credit for something they're supposed to.
Do lucas is supposed to be in, Shape he's supposed
to have lost. Weight like GET i get. That It's
june twenty, eighth, right and it's, like, oh this is
it better than seeing pictures of him gaining? Weight, Absolutely,
however at this moment in time and we are we

(01:49:58):
are a million days from, football much less basketball being played.
Again you know what could? Happens get.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
That don't tell that you can get fat? Again what?

Speaker 11 (01:50:08):
Happens what happens if he gets fat? Again and then
what ye of little? Faith, listen we're taking the under.
Here that's what's ye of the yo yoing. Weight at
one point in my. LIFE i was two hundred and
eighty seven pounds at one point in. LIFE i am
now about one hundred and ten pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Lighter you're the only way you can gain that much
and lose that much weight is to gain that much
weight in the first. Place not saying That luca was
ever liked, that But i'm saying. THIS i was fat
three times in, life non consecutive. YEARS i got skinneg
got fat, AGAIN i got, skinner got fat one last,
time and now IF i get fat, Again i'm going
fat for UNLESS i get the stuff That Jason smith
And Mike harmon have been taking because they, are you,

(01:50:46):
know deliver the sponsorship A PhD weight. Loss i'm pac
weight loss because that thing, works all. Right so Maybe
luca's on that. Plan The Maybe luca's on that. Plan
but UNTIL i see him on the, court looking in
good shape and looking like year, one year Two luca
who was dunking on people in the, bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
THEN i can Say, Okay THEN i can say all,
right here we Are.

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
MARTIN i think this is a phenomenal off season For, lakers,
faithful AND i am a born and Raised laker.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
Fan there's No San diego.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Team i'm too young for the late Jelly Bean Joe
Bryant San Diego clippers. Club So i'm A laker fan
through and. Through the number one knock for, me All
luca experiment was why is he not in the gym With?
Lebron lebron spends a million dollars on his frame a,
year And, luca by, osmosis is not picking that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Up that's a. Problem that's A i'm looking at a
bunch of star.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Egos and no one being able to tell another star, Actor,
YO i need you in scene, study like you just, Said,
Martin it's not in the contract being. Shape it's just,
assumed just like actors don't need to memorize lines in the.
Contract it's just assume you. Expect BUT i, mean As
polinka cantinues to drink coffee In malibu and make no offseason, moves.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
This is all we have Is luca losing. Weight the
Rob pete needs to make sure his ringers on just
in Case nico calls him. Again that's, fact you know
WHAT i. Mean making that maybe that's the. Problem imagine
he'd missed that phone. Call that's an all time do
not to sirve how many times got you? Thing if
you missed that? Call and Then nico like snaps out of,

(01:52:24):
it and then he texts. Back he's, like what's? Up
out of? It he's, like he texts, Back he's, like
oh my, bad wrong. Number he's, Like robb's, like.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
It's two o'clock in the, Morning, nico what are you
calling me for this late at?

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
Night you, know so you don't make this a big.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Deal, no.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
There's no talent issue With luca it's an effort.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Thing and, honestly the The Italy syria Because i'm a soccer,
fan theatrix Of i'm gonna go all in on like
it's daytime television with my drama to the ref. Wall
The timberwolves go the other. Way the basket that's not
gonna fly despite it Being. Hollywood it needs to be basketball.

(01:53:04):
First he's showing You, martin it's basketball, first.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Or he's showing me that he had a few salads this,
Week LIKE I I i need to see it on the.
Court because here's the. Thing the teams that did see
it on the court decided that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
It was like he was worth moving off. Of AND
i get.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
That the return for The Luca doncies trade and the
process in which it happened was so bad that we
never once asked if it was a good, idea, Right,
like the process was so bad we never asked if
it was actually a good idea to consider Trading. Luca
who if just go back and Watch go back YouTube

(01:53:45):
is free as of. NOW i know you're gonna click
through an, attitude but it's still. Free go back and
Watch Luka doncics Against Paul george And Kawhi leonard for
The Los Angeles clippers and then go back and Watch
luca even on the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
Run you tell me that's not two different, people like
the two different, Bodies, alex do you do you?

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
Not do you kind of take issue with the fact
that as A lakers. Fan that's Why i'm asking you,
specifically is the fact that now that the season's, over
they got, eliminated the championship's, over and now he shows, Up.
Skinny does that not bother you a little bit that
it took losing in the playoffs to light that under
his butt like it Could you couldn't have just you,
know got traded and that rubbed him the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Enough so now he gets in gets into shape on
so many. Levels ian And i'm a Certified Oklahoma city.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
HATER i was praying that the tournament line these guys,
up BECAUSE i know What luca last year did to
The Oklahoma City.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
Thunder it just was too late to the.

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
Party it was three teams that just were not, prepared
and one of them Was minnesota who hadn't even had
playoff experience With Juwis. Randall but, yes it's it's a
big bummer to your pointing in that it had to
happen like.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
This But, martin let me throw it back to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
You what a perfect time for a transfer of, title
for the ownership of this team and setting a new.
Tone then new ownership and the face of the franchise
outside Of lebron is in tip top.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Shape they want to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
School maybe that's What maybe that was what motivated him
to get on The Jenny, Craig he, Said, Listen jeanie
sold the team before she offered me to.

Speaker 12 (01:55:25):
Contract my money's not guaranteed, YET i better hit the.
Treadmill there is an element too in The european. Lifestyle
they do it a little better than. Us they don't
live the work they work to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
Live So jokis doesn't get any pushback for drinking off season.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Beers luca.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Does BUT i think that's.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
The difference drinking mid postseason. Beers yeah, YEAH.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
I, say, look you win a, ring you have yourself a,
hazy but don't lay off the IPAs until you got some.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
HARDWARE i tell you you would have been really. FUNNY
i know this wouldn't have, happened just it just humor
me for ten. Seconds imagine If luca was the was
THE sga ON okac right, now and they won the,
title and everybody else, said okayc is, like what do
we do with these champagne? Bottles luca would have no.
Issue luca would know immediately what to do with those.

(01:56:16):
BOTTLES i think they would have been a messy locker
room for well at Least luca And Alex.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Caruso, guys want to learn how to open it with
your eye, socket you could do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
That speaking of, champions one of the best champions of
all time introduced AN nfl player to his girlfriend who's
been the More Super bowls than he. Has who is?

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
That we'll get to him just a.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
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