Mike Harmon and Ryan Hollins Review NBA Playoffs, Jamal Murray Avoids Suspension, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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(00:47):
with the Rockets, these days, going to define the archives
of the Opinion Eating seven Footers podcast. He's a man
about tow. What's going on, mister Hollins?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's up brother? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's another day to be great, right. We got Iowa,
Sam here, we got Shay, we got Ilo. The team
assembled and ready to bring greatness to the world. And
as my late uncle one said, everybody's a mother. Sometimes
ponder that as you will. But I've got a quote
that I think is going to define the day. We

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got to start off with the right frame of mind.
And I want to jump off with this because you know,
rookie mini camps for the NFL. Not that we're going
to do a ton of NFL talk. It is, after all,
the second week of May and the playoffs are in
full effect. But I think this is a quote that
we should all jump out of bed with.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Three thirty four in the morning, woke up, stared straight
at the ceiling and said to myself, it's not just
another day, it's two day. And maybe that's just another
way of saying, attack this datement an enthusiasm unknown a mankind.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
But there you go, Jim Harbaugh addressing his feelings about
the first day of rookie mini camp for the Los
Angeles as Chargers. And you know what, that's the way
to attack a day, because we got another opportunity to
be great.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Ryan Allins, Hey, I'm right, I'm right on with you, man.
We're coming out firing out the gates. And like you said, man,
there's no better time NBA playoffs among us lots to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, I have to ask coming off of that Harball
quote though, you know, first day of camps rookie camps
say back in the NBA, like did you get anything
of that that he'll like, hey, you know we're here,
kick ass blah blah, or is you know, it's just
kind of like, all right, you guys know what to do.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, here's the thing. I feel like as a rookie.
The point is you said, as a rookie, I feel
like the other guys knew what to do. I didn't
know what to do. So as a rookie, you're you're
kind of like you don't know what you don't know,
so you're asking more questions at the end of the
day and just kind of trying to figure things out.
But yeah, you really don't know as a rookie, and

(02:57):
it's like, you know, don't mess it up.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That What was the biggest challenge, like, was what was
the thing that you had to adapt? Right, because I
mean you played at UCLA. I mean we're talking vaunted, hallowed,
you know, legacy program, so obviously best of the best
in everything, so you know, getting that that call and
starting at the next level was what was the thing

(03:19):
that hit you most.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I think for me that there was a business. And
you know, it's funny, like you kind of take it
for granted, but you don't think about it. You look
over and it's like, well, he's worth seventy million, he's
worth one hundred million, he's worth twenty million. You're worth
three hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So you basically did what I do when I go
to Disneyland or a theme park. Count I count heads
as money, all right. That guy paid a hundred bucks
to get in here. That guy paid a hundred bucks.
That guy's got three thousand dollars worth of merchandix in
that bag. And then you start adding up what a
day's revenue might be. Because I'm a nerd that.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Way, are you? Are you a fast passed guy?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
By the way, Well, when I'm there, like, I don't
have a pass right now, I don't have an annual pass.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
No no, no, no, no, the fast pass, the one
where where you get to cut of everybody in line.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh hell yeah yeah no. Like, look, I'm all about
for the equality of the line ride, but if they
have a system by which I can pay a little
more to give me that extra leg up.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Absolutely, I'm taking Okay, I want to ask you something.
I want to know if I'm wrong about this.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
But you can't let other people in. If you were
the guy standing in.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Line, I want to I want to ask you something,
a little confession.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right, let's go at the Ryan Hollins on Twitter at
swollwod Dome at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Go ahead, rest her soul. We took my grandmother to
Magic Mountain m HM, and she was in a wheelchair
and we wheeled our way to the front of mini lines.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, if she was legitimately in a wheelchair, Yeah, no, no, no, no,
because that's the thing like that, that's the biggest thing
for theme park and theme park goers, I think one
of the big battles. And Shay's frantically shaking his head
up and down, going yeah, yeah, is is all the
policies where they're like because they just re released a

(05:13):
new policy at Disney that have everybody up in arms
as to how they're qualifying and going through different ailmen's disabilities,
et cetera. Because the abuse of that system was just
over the just drifting into a horrible place right to
where you know, you could ask for the cart you

(05:34):
could ask for the like, all right, you're a sixteen
year old and maybe you've got a leg brace on now,
look can't walk? I mean like you know Grandma that
you know you're enjoying the day with grandma and grandma's
legit in a wheelchair. Well you're together now if you
if one of you and Grandma go into the line
while everybody else is going and enjoying another ride, and

(05:55):
then you end up cutting past a couple hundred people
to get up by grandma, Yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well what happens is they direct you. Instead of going
to the line, you go where everybody's walking out. So
I'm watching everybody's reaction after riding the ride and you're
essentially walking past them. But that's what they told me
to do.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, you can always just say don't you know who
I am?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
No? No, I was nobody at this time. I mean
I think I'm in high school. That it would have
been like, don't you know who I'm gonna be?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, start singing I'm going to be somebody someday, the
old tramstrip song. While you're at it, all right, he's
ryding Hollins. I'll buy carbon, all right, Obviously, we've got
a lot of NBA talk today, playoffs in full effect,
a lot of storylines emanating from the games. But I
want to start with Boston and Cleveland yesterday. Thirteen point

(06:47):
win for the Celtics, another road victory, and what's become
a hallmark under the Joe Missoula administration is on the
road phenomenal. What are they eighteen and seven or something
to to that effect. At Halton they're a five hundred team.
We saw a blowout Game one, blowout Game two the
other way. Game three, they distanced themselves right and Cleveland

(07:11):
made it interesting to at least keep fans in the seats,
and if they were still selling beer, they got a
little more revenue because nobody left like they did in
Boston in Game two with like seven or eight minutes left,
because you saw a little bit of heart and determination
to battle back. But were you really scared they were
gonna blow that lead? I don't know. Maybe if you're
a Celtics fan you've seen it a couple of times,
but otherwise it was kind of a what do we say,

(07:33):
a little play with your food kind of moment in
terms of, you know, a pressure applying that pressure. But
coming out of Game two, as we talked about a
little bit last week, that sense of urgency, Ryan like
when we watched these guys, I mean Jason Tatum took
to the podium a couple days ago saying, well, you know,
you call us a super team. It expected us to

(07:54):
win by twenty five a day, Like, No, we just
expect consistency of effort because you won the conference by
what thirteen games?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, Well, here's the thing with Boston and you brought
it out. They're so hot and cold. And of the
three teams that stood out this year and my Rockets
played was the Nuggets obviously because they're world champions and
they can turn it on when they want to. How

(08:24):
are they playing the timber Wolves because they're just they're huge, man,
They're huge. And I think where everybody saw it the
first two games where they you know, beat the Nuggets
and said, oh, we got to respect this ball club. Man.
They're extremely deep. And then Boston. And when Boston's rolling,
when they're hitting threes, they're out in transition, they're sharing

(08:46):
the basketball, you feel like there's literally nothing that you
can do against them. But when they're bad, when they're pedestrian.
You look at some of their losses this season, Mike,
they literally lost games teas to uh to. I mean
just just I mean Charlotte back to back. If I'm
not mistaken, there's no you.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Go into some of those runs. Yeah, I mean that
was one of the things we did talking about the
Lakers a bunch right towards the end of the year.
It's like, all right, here's all these great games and
then you play a bunch of also rans and you
just give them away. With the Celtics, it's been the
same case. You just would motivation to play the full
full schedule.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, you wouldn't expect that with the team that's going
to be competing for a championship. But we can glean
back to say, you guys shoot a lot of threes.
When the threes don't go in, there's not too many counters.
So because the counters aren't there, that's where you're going.
What's the second option? You gotta have some type of

(09:44):
second option option, and you're really not seeing that with Boston.
So the concern is, Okay, shots not falling, what else
are we going to go to? And I don't know
if it's it's post ups. I don't know if there's
a you know, a little more ball movement. I'm not
sure what the answer is, but you just haven't seen it.

(10:06):
And that's the real concern in Boston. It's not the talent.
It's not that you don't look around and say, man,
this is a ball cup that can play with anything.
In my opinion, also, when they end up playing against
the Western Conference, I think they're really going to struggle
with size.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well that's the biggest thing, right is if we're going
to look down the road and we've got the fun
and excitement that is Nick Pacers that we'll get into
in earnest in a little bit. The war of attrition,
who's left standing in the Tom Thibodeau battlefield is really
kind of where it's at at this point. You can
liken it to whatever military film you like or cop

(10:42):
dramas of course, as these are the last guys we
have to do to take down this whole ring that's
taking over a city kind of thing. But you know,
when we look at the Celtics, there really isn't I mean,
Jason Tatum to have to play against those big Look
what they did to nicolea Jokics the first two games. Right,

(11:03):
if we're talking about Minnesota and one of those games
without Rudy Gobert, we'll get into, you know, Adam Silver,
the Invisible Hand and things of the week that was Ryan.
I gotta get your thoughts even if it's a couple
of days old and there's another game played, because the
Jamal Murray circumstance still has me scratching my head. Was
Adam Silver not available for comment or not, I don't know.

(11:26):
But but for the Celtics, yeah, it's just that concern
that they don't have the size in that next you know,
two rounds from now. But in the interim, there's just
a lot of all right, they're too good, like it's
one of those companies too big to fail kind of
feelings with how they kind of run through. Right. Brown
was getting to the rim fairly easily. White hit some threes.

(11:49):
He's been hit or miss though, you know, the last
couple of games with his shot, I know a bunch
of people were over the three and a half three
point shots. Sorry, folks, he went three of eight from
three point range. Didn't get you the over. Likewise, Tatum
only two of eight. Those are the two prop bets
that kept showing up in my timeline, Ryan, people really upset.
Oh they're shooting the three, so it's gonna go over

(12:09):
now now thirteen to thirty four, thirty eight percent. But
both of those guys, because stadium's now on a streak
where that at two and a half has not hit once.
But he showed up for the critics, right, Is that
what they need? Is this the opposite of the Kevin
Durant mister unreliable the headline where he gets guys fired
and skips town, whereas, hey, you said bad things about me,

(12:32):
Watch watch the county effort. I'm gonna give you. So
if I'm in Boston, I'm going on radio and I'm
calling in and I'm finding the worst of his stat
lines and quarters and I'm just gonna keep feeding that narrative.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, if you're Jason Tatum, right, I get it. Fire
them up, motivate them, because here's the thing we talked about, Mike.
When they win, they just blow you out. They like
they it's not even competitive when they're and then the
challenges that we said when things are going wrong, and
I look at this also with Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum

(13:09):
could probably, you know, be more aggressive in moments, take
a lot of you know, volume shots. But we always
get on these superstars when they come out and they say,
we need what more superstars? You need two superstars? No,
I need three, I need four. I need to completely
stack my team. And we're getting on guys when that happens.

(13:31):
But when Jason Tatum doesn't do a lot of scoring,
I wonder if part of it is just him saying, Hey,
I trust my teammates and when they have the basketball,
I'm gonna I'm gonna let them take their shots. We're
gonna run offense. I trust my coach, I trust Missoula.
Even though I can get my shot and get looks anytime,
I'm not gonna break offense. And I'm gonna trust their abilities.

(13:54):
So is Jason Tatum wrong for having that mentality? You know?
And I think that Boston is a true team. Obviously
you'd like to see those second and third options. And
I can also argue back, like, and I don't know
if you agree with this that some of the criticism
is not that you're trusting your teammates, but there are

(14:14):
moments where nobody else has it rolling go demand of basketball.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right at what point in a game do you realize,
all right, this isn't working and we've got to switch
right because against Cleveland in game two, that didn't happen,
which is why the criticism and the daggers started. Right
once you realize that this has gone south, that you're
not the asserted guy, and then you come out with

(14:41):
an effort like you did yesterday on the road and
you buried this squad. Right, they kept fighting and give
Cleveland all the credit in the world, but it just
felt like and they showed a couple of the interactions
with Brown and Tatum on the sideline like all right,
let's let's go again. Come on, It's like we took
a couple of minutes where it's slowed down. Now now

(15:04):
let's get back at it. And you watch the offense
start to run again, and you.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Know the thing from and this is from a player's standpoint.
You know, when I was in the playoffs and you know,
you know, making a run and you're trying to focus.
It's just crazy that you know, and this is part
of it. You know, I'm officially part of the dark
side now, but when you and when I say dark side,
I say media after every winner loss, the world is ending.

(15:32):
Of course it was Boston. Come on now, it was
their first loss, and the world is ending, you know.
And then they win the next time, they win their
crown World Champs. They're great, they're amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Why don't we see this all the time?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah? Yeah, But nonetheless, the the ups and downs or something.
As a player, you have to tune out. And it's
tough because, yeah, he's got to go to the podium,
he's got to go talk, he's gotta you know, he's
got to do those things. He can't just you know,
scratch off his media availability. But at the end of
the day, yeah, it's a it's a very tough space

(16:11):
to be in because game to game again, these guys
are crowned as champs or failures or or bush and
it's like, okay, guy, we can be tired. We're pretty sure,
you know, we're gonna make it past Cleveland missing Jared Allen,
you know, and even with or without they're so deep there.
But you know, I get it. It's just a part

(16:32):
of it and you have to, at the end of
the day embrace it. But I think that again, there's
some truth, you know, when we talk about these championship teams.
We don't talk about losing back to back games to Charlotte,
and there's just there's been a couple of games this
season where they just they haven't showed up. And sometimes
you can't just flip that switch. He can't just turn
it on. Those are bad habits that are created.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Just always remember we were trying to crown these guys
right at the end of last year. What happened Missoula
a lot of speculation as to whether he would keep
his job and whether Brown and Tatum would get to
run it back. So I mean that pressure cooker has
been there the entire season, and now you're in the
biggest spotlight and again you win the East by double digits,

(17:15):
running away as Milwaukee faltered and the Knicks had their surge,
but again last man standing. I guess that's the theme.
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Find me over at Swollen Dome. Later on today we
get a couple of game fours at us here, Ryan
and the one that focus on, at least for the
early part of things, the Knicks and the Pacers, which
has been game to game the most competitive of all

(19:33):
right now, because even in those Nicks wins to get
things started, contested, hotly contested. Did you go back and
count the seventy eight in fractions? Rick Carlisle was mad about.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I did's the seventy eight for that part of.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Three, not four, not five, seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Ryan, I've played for coach Carlisle. You know he's gonna
go out and Pete. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Game four a little bit later on Pacers, Nick Nicks
with the two to one lead Pacers five and a
half point favorites. We've got a questionable tag on Halliburton,
a bit banged up. The end of game three, you know,
had its moments and Jalen Brunson, who's just been I
don't know how many more adjectives are going to be
piled upon him, but his possession with sixteen seconds left

(20:25):
and the decision he made, he owned it.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Did you like that shot when you put it up?
Not really just a terrible decision and something need to learn.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
From opportunity sixteen seconds left maybe to get to the
rack right, you had several Pacers players come out to
the top of the key to stop, which he meant
a pretty clear laye towards the basket. Instead thinks he's
drawing a file, tries to force the three misses badly
and the game ends. But we move on for the Pacers,

(21:04):
you know, coming out of New York, hard fought games,
but a lot about officiating and how much does that
carry over in a locker room as much as it
does in the outside or when coach helps to fuel
the fire.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I think it's more personal. You know, at this time
of year, you know who you are as a player,
You know who you are as a ball club roles
have been defined. Otherwise you wouldn't have made it this far.
And you know, you kind of have to go and
sleep with whatever decision, whatever shot you took or didn't take.
And I don't think you go wild at all if

(21:41):
you're the Knicks. The reason I say why, man, they've
been able to finish close games. They made all of
the clutch plays. They're playing with tremendous heart, and you
know they're competing and the biggest thing, they're giving themselves
a chance to win. So you got to credit the
Knicks for that. So as far as Bruntsing, you know,
with his performance, I don't think there's too much that

(22:02):
Tims is going to say about it. I don't think
he'll focus more so on that shot and that decision.
He'll acknowledge it if needed. But with Brunson, I don't
think you beat a dead horse. And at the end
of the day, the focus is going to be, Hey,
how many times do we give up dribble penetration? What
our transition defense look like? Did we run Indian Indiana

(22:23):
off the line? We know that you'd like to shoot
the three ball, we know the movements there, so those
are going to be the focuses on where they can
improve rather than you know, Brunson's decision there. And you know,
trust me, Jenn Brunson knows enough of what he should
or shouldn't do, and you know what he's done this
season so far for New York and then there should

(22:43):
be and will be no questions about that shot.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh no, no, I certainly. Look, you have to appreciate
what the Knicks are bringing at this point, as much
as it pains me to say in my five day
a week role alongside Jason Smith, is that they're damn likable. Yeah,
Hart has a bit of villain in him, but even
some of the stuff he had to say right when
asked about the minutes he's being asked to play every day,

(23:08):
he goes, Look, people get up and do twelve hour jobs,
Like I can't complain. I'm playing basketball and making a
good living doing it and entertaining et cetera. Kyrie Irving
after the game, you know, after that Dallas four point
win yesterday, same he echoed the thought. He goes, Josh
Hart said it for all of us, and that's how
we all should be approaching this game, which you know,

(23:30):
the appreciation of it but you know, more so just
from the side of as contested as this is.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Ryan.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know, when Rick Carlisle does the seventy eight look,
it was the best thirty five thousand dollars he spent.
I'm not going to say they suddenly got a ton
of calls, but seemed like that got quieted down and
winning will do that. But when you're looking at that
after two games, has become seemingly the focus of your squad,

(24:01):
that would be a little concerning. But now that you've
got a two to one and a game four at home,
and let's face it, the Knicks they're depleted, and they
got twenty four points off the bench unlikely twenty four
points from McBride and Burks in Game three. But Ogianinomi
a walking through that door, and he was the guy,

(24:21):
along with Brunson, who really made this team work in
the second half of the season.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, without og I think I'm gonna have to favor Indiana.
I know people probably don't want to hear that, and
the reason being he's a position that they don't have.
He can match up and really cancel out Pascal Siaka
on those two former teammates, they know each other's games
quite well. But he's their X factor and that's why

(24:46):
they were so aggressive at the trade deadline to go
out and acquire him because they don't have anything like him.
And as you mentioned earlier in the show, what's the
challenge with New York those high volume of minutes that
they're playing, You know, can they keep it up? Looking
around the NBA and unfortunately, this playoffs is determined by
a lot of injuries. Man, we are missing, dude, a

(25:07):
multitude of stars. No Kawhi, Leonard Drelling, Beid was hampered,
Giannis out to Cupo, it was out, Damian Lillard miss games. Okay,
you can just go down the list. No Randolph, right, Julie,
excuse me, Randall, No Julius Randall for New York. So
there's a number of players that are missing. And for

(25:28):
New York, you're scared. Man. As we talk about ogn
and Nube being being out, man that that could be
the X factor in the series. And you look at
teams that kind of play their strength in numbers, like
Indiana has depth. Okay, we talk about Boston and Jason
Tatum not taking all those shots, but guess what, he's
gonna be healthy because the load that's put on him

(25:49):
is not the same as the rest of the teams
or the rest of the stars in the NBA. He's
gonna be fresh come you know time, Championship time if
they do make it out the easton, which is looking very,
very very doable. Yeah, it seems like, hey, the question
war so for Boston would be why wouldn't you make

(26:09):
it out at this point?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, that's it, right, it's a war of attrition. In
the last couple of years, we've certainly seen that. And
that's one of those handwringing things if you're the NBA,
because you know, you've adopted the rules where you've got
to play sixty five to be eligible for awards, and
some folks still bristled at that, which I think it's
kind of funny. I mean, you can still miss seventeen
games and be eligible for awards. But you look, you

(26:33):
guys agreed to it as a union. That's that's where
you're at. And if you're going to allow that to
be part of the voting for all NBA teams, you
get what you get, but you know, and for contracts
to be decided by that in terms of max values.
But That's a discussion for another time. But going into
the playoffs, just one after another, right Milwaukee, you lose

(26:53):
Giannis and then Lillard's compromise. Just keep going down the line,
and so in our large media sphere, Ryan will do
everything they can to discredit whoever is left standing. But
it is a war of attrition, right. It is eighty
two games plus. However many playoff rounds and games you survive,

(27:16):
and certainly the Knicks are testing the limits. But it
always goes back to the same idea of not all
minutes are created equal.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
We had our guy Rick buker Fs, one longtime basketball analysts,
about three years ago. He dropped the line on us
about Lebron minutes, which I now tell my daughter to
apply in the soccer field. You know, if the ball
goes out of bounds, there's no reason to run up
back up the court or get the ball back into play.
And if you could be a little slow to get
up or a little slow to move, that's an extra

(27:45):
minute on the court or on the pitch. That counts
just the same as the guy running full sprints. And
if you could buy that time and get towards the
finish line, a little bit less exhausted like your You know,
as you laid out, the Celtics will be able to
guess what do you read benefits in future rounds.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
No, you're right about it, and you know it's funny
when you mentioned the Knicks. The biggest thing is that
they are playing extremely hard. I mean there's easy minutes. Yes,
you're your point, they're not Josh hart Is. I mean
he's crashing to the rim for those rebounds. I mean
they're they're they're banging in like they're just out tough

(28:25):
in teams. I mean, if you're in New Yorker, you're celebrating,
you're loving these guys. Man, they're iron men. But in
our reality, man, you just question, you fear, how long
can they keep this up? Man? How long can they
keep it up? Because it's it's it takes so much
out of you and you know, hats off the tips

(28:46):
tips got them there. There can be no complaints there,
but you do you just wondering, you fear how long
can they keep it up?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
No, it's it's been fun to watch, and you know
there's that whole masterclass. I don't know if you've seen
the ads for this, you know where you get x
field matter experts teach you about whatever, investing, how to
cook a keish, all of those things and everything in between. Here,
learn some basic guitar with me and insert rock rock god. Here,

(29:13):
learn the drums with Ringo Starr. Like that's legitimately a
thing that you can pay to watch a class. I
want to watch a class of Josh Harten rebounding, because
any like dude is, you know, suddenly towering over people. Man,
you want to talk about a skill of finding the
basketball and reading the rim and reading opponents' bodies and
how they're moving. That guy's putting on a masterclass every night.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
No, he is. And you know in the NBA, with
all these seven footers, all this size, Josh hart Is
just out there bodying guys and kidding all these all
these rebounds. Man, you're right, No, Josh hart h He's
an intriguing player. Man. He is tough as nails, and
I think he's just he's just taking his h you know,

(29:57):
the respect for to get his game to a whole
nother level. But to me, it's also intriguing that these
are the starting three on that Villanova championship team. And
I don't think anybody who was looking at that Villanova
team and going as much as college basketball have been
watered down, that going, Man, these guys are going to

(30:17):
be a starting back court, you know, running through the
Eastern Conference and having you know, just just great success
in the NBA. Not that they wouldn't be good, but man,
these guys are balling and Mike, I don't know if
that's ever been done. Like, I don't remember three teammates
on the same team and playing and having this much success.

(30:39):
And this is I think is really cool because they
know each other's games, you know, they know each other,
you know, very well. There's a there's a comfort there,
you know. So hats off to Villanova. Man, it's got
to be really cool to watch. But I don't I
don't ever remember that before.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
The follow up line is obviously, is Jay Wright overrated
and then they underperform? No?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, I you I had to think about that for no, man, Jay,
righty kidding me? No, everybody says Villanova guy, Fellanova guy.
You know, they're like, they have the dribble drive offense,
they know how to play, they're tough, they're they're they're
smaller guys play big and they're physical and they do
things that big guys do. So it's like Villanova basketball.

(31:26):
So no, no, they're you can't take anything away.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm sports media. We we have to we have to
look for the downside. But you know a guy who's
always looking for the brighter side of life, as if
he's straight out of a Monty Python sketch. It's my guy,
Isaac Lohenkron. He's got what's streateding in our sporting universe.
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I love Mike and Ryan.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I found something that is the opposite in this case
of the bride side. Coming up in just moments, I'm
going to play you something that is unprecedented in sports
that you are not to believe that coming up in
just a few moments. First of all, we start with
Game three at the Eastern Conference semi Finals on Saturday
night of the Boston Celtics wading at Cleveland what six

(32:08):
to ninety three for a two games to one lead.
In the Stanley Cup playoffs on Saturday night, the Dallas
Stars wanted Colorado four to one. In Game three of
the Western Conference semi Finals. The Stars take a two
games to one lead. Baseball Saturday evening the Los Angeles
Dodgers got a Grand Slam home run from ti Oscar
Hernandez and a five nothing win. At San Diego, the
San Francisco Giants got a Grand Slam home run from

(32:31):
Matt Chapman in a five to one victory over the
Cincinnati Rats. Now we're gonna take you to Perth, Australia.
Let's go for a championship women's boxing match on Saturday night,
as w BA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes squared off against
challenger Shanika Johnson. Now the fight went the distance, but

(32:55):
then when it was time to announce the decision, the
ring announced a man by the name of Lieutenant Dan Hennessy.
Lieutenant Dan, Lieutenant Lieutenant Dan Tennessy. Not well, Hennessey, right,
let's go. Hennessy might play into this. Lieutenant Dan Hennessy
announced the wrong winner. We're gonna play the whole thing

(33:19):
for you, and the commentators on the telecast you're going
to hear are Joe Tessitore and Tim Bradley.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Your winner. I'm the par majority decision and still.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
A longsided scorecard.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes and holds a
majority decision to go to seven and zero and retain
her World championship on a night where Janika Johnson what.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
This seemed like? She was in control down the stretch.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
And by the way, Knackamora, who had that ninety eight
ninety two scorecard, will be the referee for Wolmachenko.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Fine Fine Kiley's Goes the Joe edition ninety six ninety
four Kamora ninety eight ninety two, Who do what my
majority finding out of the blue tarter?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Is this guy real?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Is this guy?

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Lieutenant Dan Hennessy for real?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Funny here? Man?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
I mean, what are we doing? Oh my good, what
are we doing?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
What are we doing? Back to you guys, because I
saw the referees reaction to all of it, and he
was confused as Elis said Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, I mean,
that's about as good as it gets. Now. I watch
him Hennessy at Isaac Logott drink responsibly at the Ryan
Hollins find me over at Swollendom. Coming up next, we

(34:56):
talk about you know, John Elway has a bunch of
car lots, or he has in the past. We had
the Reggie Bar growing up where's the greatest products for
sportsman and what would we put our names on? Because
one Hall of Fame pitcher, he's not there yet, but
he's going has a new product line that his teammates
are having some fun with. We'll talk about it next
year on Fox.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
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Speaker 2 (35:30):
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, we got the
club up and going on a Sunday morning. Wherever you are,
you're now bouncing in your car, sitting at the breakfast table.
Maybe you've surreptitiously brought in your earbuds and you're listening
in services. I don't know where you are, but I
appreciate you being part of our family. Mike Harbon alongside
Ryan Hollins here live from the tire Act dot Com studios.

(35:55):
The Lieutenant Dan Hennessy has me going here. Ryan really
started a whole other thing with Iowa, Sam and I
back here. Did you hear what I say?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I want to know where the Hennessy comes from. I mean,
I can't look in it dead, but where's.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh we got a couple of Irish pubs. Uh, you
know Hennessy's here in southern California.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Well, it's a Hennessy. It's not Hennessy.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
No, No, it's just Hennessy's. I mean we could call
it Ohannessy's. If it's going to make you feel better.
Sometimes you just drop the oh goodness exactly all right,
So product endorsements here, Ryan Hollins. One of my favorite
things when we see athletes get associated with brands. Sometimes
we scratch our heads. Sometimes just hey, I put my

(36:39):
name on it, right. We've got a lot of guys
that through the years that put their name on car dealerships.
They don't really have anything to do with it other
than you license the name and it gives it some credibility.
Maybe you go and shake some hands, kiss some babies
once in a while. Some of them. Yeah, it's it's
part of your overall portfolio. We've certainly seen, you know,
the fast food industry and guys and all their their holdings.

(37:02):
But when you actually put your name on something, right,
George Foreman with the grill because Holk Hogan didn't do it,
go on down the line, Clayton Kershaw's evidently got Kershaw
Beef coming out here, limited edition five hundred boxes of
meat from nine hundred or ninety to three hundred dollars,
you know, ground beef, sliders, meatballs, and all the way

(37:24):
down the line for heat to meat, et cetera. And
they randomly will pick, you know, whatever goes what's you know,
what's in the box kind of moment. His teammates had
some fun with it. But here's the tagline, No curve balls,
just beef. So the obvious question that flows out of this,
since we are pitchman tyraq dot com and all of

(37:49):
the the folks that we work with, the teammates here
at Fox Sports Radio, what would you put your name on?
Like if you had the product that says this is
Ryan Hollins and I'm gonna sew my name on it
and there's my smiling mug next to it. I mean,
Kershaw's now give me a Texas kids. So he's got beef.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean I think for me, I put my name
on anything that's I mean, it's reasonable, classy, you know, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, But what defines Ryan Hollins is the question. It's
like the Passion Project, not the Hey, they've pitched me
thirty things, and none of them I find morally or
you know, just against whatever my family is.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I mean maybe something sports related. I don't know. I mean, listen,
I promise I'm very open to this. I don't think
I've taken one thing to narrow down and said hey,
this is me. So no, I'm open.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Let me give you mine. Like I'm defined by how
much coffee I drink around here and the type of
coffee I drink right that is would be the standard
of everything. Iowa Sam, I mean, you're a good Midwest
and folk like myself. Is there one thing that you
would attach yourself to that finds your being? Saying yes,

(39:09):
I wholeheartedly. Here's a picture of my mug, and I'm
willing to back it.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
Maybe like a party supply shop or something that's that's
right up my alley.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I kind of dig that. Yeah, that lends to all
sorts of cake.

Speaker 9 (39:20):
Iowa Sam's party City. I could do some real damage
in there.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well. I mean, with the proper license thing and the
way the laws have changed, you can also get into
all sorts of party favors. Isaac Lohancrown, do you want
to jump in on this? Do you have any in
and out? How about you? Hollins?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
What a burger? Wow? You won't let it go?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Oh this is an ongoing fight then yeah, I'm putting
together at disk track as we speak. Really, hey, put
that into chat GPT. See what it gives you. Oh
see what happened Isaac? Isaac just you know, just threw
down the gauntlet here, Ryan, so you might actually start
free verse before before.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Long, Isaac came out the gatesman throwing punches. Isaac's got well.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
He also took a swig of whatever he was drinking too,
Like you know, if that was on camera, I mean
that was perfect. It just raised it up, like all right,
got my mug. Keith a Hernandez made made sure to
chime in in the social response saying, can't wait to
try your meat kersh. So yeah, positivity around, reserve your box.

(40:31):
So there you go, Hey, coming back, we get it
back into the NBA playoffs, a couple other series to
discuss as well as the big guys. He's Ryan Hollins.
I'm by Karma. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Great Ings
and welcome back in It's our two of the program
Fox Sports Sunday on a beautiful Mother's Day here live
from the tyrat dot com studios. Tyrat dot com will

(40:52):
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all the moms out there. Whatever you've got for your
special day. I know the growing trend is just leave
me alone and give me my twelve hours, apiece, go

(41:14):
do something which is kind of cool. Spot is maybe
you'll take in a ballgame. Maybe you just need a
longer nap. I don't know. Whatever the case may be, However,
you get to celebrate your day. I salute you here
from the tire rack dot Com Studios, as I'm sure
my guy Ryan Hollins does as well.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Hew you do, buddy, I'm doing good, brother. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's a nice beautiful morning here. We've got our team assembled,
Shay and and we've got Iowa Sam, and we've got
Isaac Lohenkron who's throwing daggers at you about you know,
he's really got beef about beef. So you guys, I
don't know. We'll have to get you into the parking
lot and settle that if we get a pay per
view going you guys in.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Wait, no peace, No, that's a that's a.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Is that a big man basketball can't fight kind of
thing or all?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
No, No, you got to know your limits. Man. We
all have to have limits. You know, there's some guys
you don't mess with. You see that look in his eyes?
There it is.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
There, he goes, just trying to bait you. At Isaac Loangrod,
He'll be part of the nobody calls me Chicken at
Isaac Lohan Crown, part of the Angels City FC. A
little bit later at the Ryan Holland. See, I mean,
we got a little bit of organized chaos as we
get things rolling here on a beautiful Sunday morning, and

(42:41):
we get a couple more NBA playoff games. Hit the
rewind button to yesterday the Mavericks with the one hundred
five one oh one win over the Thunder. Another big game.
Yeah yeah, Kyrie Irving and Luka Donc just combined for
forty four points and rebounds at twelve assists. Let's talk
about PJ. Washington for a moment, shall we, who suddenly

(43:05):
is becoming a scoring machine against this OKC lineup? What
changed her Ryan Hollins.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
They needed a third option and PJ. Washington was the
biggest pickup of the trade deadline. You know when he
came over. The one thing that that PJ does is
he can stretch the floor. He's much better defensively than
you thought. And hats off to Nico and those guys
over there in Dallas, Man because that was a that

(43:34):
was a box office move that they made. And what
he does is allow Luca to feel comfortable having a
guy in the corners that's going to hit shots. And
that's been the difference in the series so far, is
just having a guy or guys. And it was hard

(43:54):
away in the last game, the game prior to that
to make those to make those shots because as you know,
Kyrie is going to get the attention, you know Luca's
going to get the attention. And now they become really
unguardable when the help is there.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I got to say one of the most entertaining memes
now with the requisite Benny Hill. You got to be
of a certain age to watch Benny Hill, but where
they'd speed up the film as they chase someone through
the town, usually after they did something that they probably
shouldn't have, but you know they did. You know, Yaggety
Sacks starts playing is was chet holmger and tried to

(44:29):
chase down Lively to follow him, so that that was
pretty fun.

Speaker 9 (44:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
He had twelve points off the bench, by the way,
did Lively as well? Eight of twelve from the foul line.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Tried to make him live there and look if they
two out of three ain't bad.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
When you're a guy, they're not expecting to hit at all.
But for the ok see thunder. I mean, the fun
of this lineup has been watching Shay Gillans Alexander become
the star that he is. Right finalists MVP vote finishes
with thirty one, ten and six Williams again Chet. The

(45:06):
chase is what folks will remember. Thirteen and eight only
five of nine from the field. They were ten of
thirty from three point range. The live and die from
three point range seems to be the big thing here
because you watched Dallas also Washington with Gafford out rebounding
them and getting out and giving Luca space to operate.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, and Luca got it through the Nixon knacks, the
bruises that he has. It was a gutty performance. Man,
he's a tough guy.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
How big is that bandage gonna get before we're done here?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Right? They better keep wrapping it up whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
He's gonna be our cumby by time it's done.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
It's working. And I gotta confess. I can't let you
say what you said earlier without throwing a confession. I
pulled it lively before.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Having a guy chase you all over.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, yeah, I ran. I mean, I made my free throws.
At a certain point they stopped and.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I left you alone.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah. I was like thankful. I was like, heck of hollins.
I was like cool, all right, cool, and you know,
I made my free throws. But for a while, you know,
a little bit of the game, I went running away,
shaking it and jiving and move it.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I'm I gotta find the tape on this now.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah. Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Look, we've seen you in Blockbuster movies, uncut gems, right,
I mean, you know you're in there. You weren't dunking
anybody in that one though.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
No, I did not know. I did not Did you
save my movie? Were you able to kind of check
that out a little more?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I know we have, of course, I now call it
a Ryan Hollins vehicle towards stardom, no question about it.
You're a man of many talents, Master Thespian. Okay, you
were actually just playing basketball. But you know what, you're
in a movie.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I'm in a movie. I'm in a movie.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
That's it, and one that is you know, critically acclaimed,
no doubt about it. I do have to go find
this video of you getting chased.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Though, Yeah, no, no, Legitimately, I went running around and
they couldn't catch me. It couldn't catch me. So I
mean I did shoot my free throws. That didn't make it.
I mean, like I kind of didn't know what to
do because I'd never been in a game and a
coach like, hey mc collins, make free throws. It was like, okay,
if you'd like, I'll take I got this, sure, I'll.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Take the free throws. Now, let me ask this right
because rules have been a lot of it. We talked
about Rick Carlisle a little bit last hour, not going
to belabor the point. Seventy eight calls that they grabbed
the video and sent to the league office. He got
five thirty five k. I don't know that we got
anything else in terms of communication from the league office
about it. We saw the well do We'll get into

(47:44):
Jamal Murray and his situation here coming up in a
couple of minutes, because that one I'm still questioning. But
while we get into take falls Ryan, you know where
we get into the discussion of it's an obvious situation, right,
and we we had in the knickt Sixers series a
couple of big plays where the Sixers got you know,

(48:05):
normally it's like, all right, that bump is gonna get
called because they're assuming the foul to send a guy
to the line or stop the clock, right, but the
whistle doesn't come. Hey, guess what. The Knicks make a
couple of plays that they go and steal the game,
and then we see the all right, well it's an
obvious take. But you know what, because he grabs his
jersey a little bit. Now he's gonna go to the

(48:25):
free throw line. I don't I don't get it, Like,
where where did we decide that we're we're changing out
the rules of engagement of all right, we understand what's
at play here versus now it's it's a shot and
two and the ball.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, that's that's a big change in the NBA. And
what happened was you got to give the NBA stars credit.
They're so smart and it's not just that they can
play ball. They know the rule book. So you had
guys like Chris Paul that would know, you know, hey,
your hand is in front of me, and if I

(49:01):
sweep through into a shooting motion, you got to give
me two free throws. Now Chris is smart enough where
he understood, now, hey, you know, I got to get
into the bonus before I make you know, you know,
take these bonus free throws. But now at this point
it's very hard to officiate. So everything is really on
the floor when it's sweet through, even if it looks

(49:23):
like a shooting motion, those for the most part are
called on the floor. Were before, you know, guys were
getting away with, you know, free throws in those scenarios.
So NBA officiating is tough. Men. I wouldn't I wouldn't
want to be a part of it at Oh well,
the toughest thing is for the league is, like I said,
players are so smart. I'm sure at one point in

(49:45):
time there was no such thing as a as a
stop sign or red lights, right, I.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Didn't have seatbelts as kid.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, yeah, someone kept someone gets in a car accident
and keeps doing the same thing and running the light
or there's no light there, like, oh, we need to
think stop light. Like rules are made because people abuse stuff,
and NBA players were abusing stuff. So now you know
those rules are continually being changed.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And somewhere James Harden feels seen.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Dude, I call what it is. Stop it.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Come on, he was criminal offender number one.

Speaker 10 (50:18):
If we're going to do a rankings list, intelligence brilliant,
Oh no, no, hey, Like general.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Tenet of the show that Smith and I do seven
to eleven Pacific time here Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday,
is I can never faul to good strategy. I get
be mad about the results. I cannot like it because
it's against my team. But in the end, when you
pull back and you take the thirty thousand foot view, damn,
that's a good strategy. And for James Harden, it was brilliant.

(50:46):
Clock stopped gave everybody, as we called it earlier, the
Lebron moment of you know, if you needed a minute
to catch your breath and settle because you are playing
at thirty five thirty seven years or whatever, then you
were able to get that extra time. I can't fault it.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Folks can complain about it every way till Sunday, and
they have, and we've seen the rules change a bit.
But yeah, the one with the take follow is the
one that is just most confusing to me. When suddenly
you decide to award the free throw and the ball out.
It's like we all knew what they were trying to do.
When did we go fine line it here?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
That's the one that gets me, though, Ryan, like the
shooting stuff, all of that, understand like trying to adjudicate
that in real time, because even the Brunson play from
Game three, right, he might have gotten hit on the
hand to where you could say, all right, that could
have been on the ground. It sure wasn't the magic
Johnson continuation of all right, I got hit. Now I
take a couple of steps and then I still can

(51:45):
finger roll it into the basket.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
No, no, there's always you know, it's a fine line.
And again you know it's it's funny when me and
Quig were calling the games and there'd be a questionable call. Oh,
I'm quick to say, there's a reason I played, and
there's a reason I'm sitting in this booth with you
because I can't do the officiating. Man hats off to
know what they have to do, what they're figuring out well, because.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
They only get I mean, look, they have to try
to call it live guys moving quickly. It's why when
whenever we do the NFL, you know, analysis from our couches,
it's tough because we're getting the benefit of all these
replay angles. But since now in the NBA, you've got
seemingly every play can be reviewed, you know, except some
obvious things that don't. They get a little bit of

(52:34):
a cushion. I don't know how much it get grades
them up or down as it were. I'd love to
be in the room as they adjudicated the seventy eight
Rick Carlisles or do they just put that in a
bin saying it's been addressed.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
No, you actually have. What you do have from a
team standpoint, is every single play that you goes across,
it's marked and you're looking for files. So there's video
saying the thing I almost want to say. It started
with Mark Cuban. Mark Cumban starts Synergy and that film
will be sent into the NBA and you'll have a

(53:09):
design report and say, hey, there are this many fouls
that happen. The NBA will take it. The officials whatever
their crew are behind the scenes deal the league and say, hey,
we'll validate this. This guy was grabbed this many times.
Once things get egregious, and speaking of this, I want to,
you know, comment on another note. Everybody complains about Lebron
and the Lakers, you know, getting more fouls called than

(53:32):
the entire league, or doubling. That's legit. If you see
the way the Lakers player you watched them play by
the way. A lot of people go crazy about it
and just don't like Lebron. It's weird stuff. It is
what it is. Okay, they play downhill, they're physical, and
they draw a whistle. Okay, those are legitimate calls. Man.
Those guys are hard to guard because they put you

(53:53):
in predicaments defensively, so that's legit. They've earned that. But
for the most part, the teams back to the point
they send the reports. It's very detailed, and the league
will come back and look at it. And much like
as a player, we'd be in the locker room and
we'd see a scouting report of teams. Hey, he likes
to go left, he goes right. We're going to force
things to the baseline. This is where the double comes

(54:14):
from on this player, that player. The referees watched film
and tape two because the games you mentioned, Mike, it's
so fast. And for those who don't know, go get
the front row seat just one time in your life,
save up money, one time your life. I've a road seat, man,
That is the best, right. And see how fast Mike
am I tripping? How fast to those NBA athletes once
you're down there on the floors. See see NFL is different.

(54:36):
You can't go on the sidelines the NFL game, all right,
that's a health hazard. But NBA you can get right
up close to these athletes and see him.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I had the blessing to do that once, long long ago.
So having worked at Yah, who had storytime with Uncle
Mike is the working at Yahoo when they started their
sports property and we were heading to Dallas for a
family thing, and so I just put a note in saying, hey,
they're going to be a home. Is there any chance,
you know, maybe you can find me a couple of

(55:03):
tickets I'm always willing to buy them. It's really just
a if it's sold out and availabilities low. It's like,
if you can help me get through this pass. And
it's long enough ago that like all of these efficient
marketplaces in the secondary world didn't exist, right, you had
to know a guy. So we go and I get
a note from our you know, one of our sales

(55:25):
guys saying, hey, I got you covered, you know, just
go to the box office. And I go and there's
an envelope waiting for me, and I'm like, and I'm
apologizing in advance to everybody that's with me going I
have no idea where these are, but they're free, so
let's see. And there's a note that says, hey, have
a good time, and it's signed by Cuban and end
up being right by the benches. So now I get

(55:46):
not only the glory of watching people run really fast.
It was the return of Alan Iverson to the court
after he missed time because of an elbow injury. So
he's wearing the sleeve and everything, and it's the triple
j's and everything else, and the amount of trash talk
and cursing, and I mean the roast of Tom Brady

(56:06):
was nothing compared to what these guys were throwing at
each other and the referees. But I just always remember
there was a play where Iverson goes in, makes a
play and by this point the game's decided as he
hits the shot, so it's kind of emptying out and
the parabolic microphones are there and everything, and you're picking
up now everything these guys say. And he gets hit
as he goes in, he turns to the reft, he goes,

(56:27):
it's about bleeping. He bleep in time you bleep it
he bleep you no call and blame and the ref looked.
He goes, I got to tee up now because everybody
heard that one. But it was just this back and
forth and he just laughed whatever. He hit his free
throw that went back down and took the technical free throws,
but like that was as fun as it gets. So

(56:47):
for years I've just espoused that very thing Ryan from
the speed of the game, and if you want to
hear how these guys interact or interact with the crowd
a little bit, it's not always hey, guys, are you know,
getting agutive and it's anxious. They sometimes looking for a
place to eat while they're in town, sometimes just asking
how you're enjoying your night. Like they go and have conversations.

(57:09):
You want to go have the conversation with your A
List stars. There's your opportunity and you don't have to
be an A List star yourself.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Hey, I'm all in. I'm all in with that. And
you know, and I would say, even like with some
of the fans down there, when you're playing, you're so
close to them that you do have to you got
to acknowledge people there. And I think, you know, my
challenge to some fans is that some people get those
close seats and they go, well, this this is you know,

(57:38):
I can say what I want. You know, I can
kind of you know, get my harmone on MC harmon
on it. And I'm just like, no, you didn't buy
the right to me and my family, you know. And
you know a lot of these fans think they bought

(57:58):
a player, they bought the rights to a It's like, no,
whatever amount of money you spent for this game, isn't
that right.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Come and enjoy the game. You need to be respectful
still human beings. And even if they didn't hit that
third three pointer, to hit your parlay for you. He's
right because that's the other element. It's always been there
and now it's there front and center. I can only
imagine some of the back and forths on that stuff.
You've had plenty of players address it. He's Ryan Allins,

(58:29):
ten years in the league working for the Houston Rockets
now and you can find them on Twitter at the
Ryan Hollins Here with us on Fox Sports Sunday. I
always want to call it Fox Football Sunday, but we're
a couple of months out of that that realm. As
we go through, I'm my garment coming up next. We
have to turn our attention because again, you played in
the league, you're around the league. You've seen many things

(58:52):
with the craziness of the legal system as it pertains
to the NBA. Got to get your thoughts. Im all Murray.
He got a gift and boy did he use it.
Let's talk about that next year on Fox. Everybody get
your sway on. Come on, uh you s it a
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(59:14):
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(59:36):
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What do you think? How's that for pitch man? I
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(59:57):
to seven for that well, I was trying to get
people to save their money for their own pursuits. I mean,
the flowers are gonna die. I saw people lined up.
I mean it was five point fifteen this morning. I'm
driving by the Whole Foods. That guy's out there and
he's unloading the truck and guys are already sitting there
in their cars waiting for him to start taking their money.

(01:00:19):
It's really kind of an interesting proposition. It's like, you know,
if you have bought them yesterday or you bought them tomorrow.
They're gonna be a bit cheaper. And there's always someone
on the side of the road here in LA and
I'm sure any town USA same kind of thing, fresh
from the farm without the markup.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
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Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Look, you're an aera Nite Man. You're learned and educated
in the ways of the NBA, the rules, the regulations.
As we've talked about a bit this morning, there's two
things that happened this week. And I don't like to
hit the rewind button too much, but when I've got
a guy with your unique set of skills and perspective,
Ryan Hollins, we need to do it. First off, Pat

(01:01:24):
Beverly gets four games for throwing the ball. I'm playing
dodgeball with two fans. Scratch my head. Number one Jamal
Murray gets to throw a towel and a heat pack
and what does he get to do. He gets fined
one hundred grand. And look, a hundred grand is still
one hundred grand. So anybody's saying, this guy makes this,
that guy makes that. Whatever, no hundred grand, still you're

(01:01:45):
gonna feel it. If nothing else. That's a nice luxury
car you don't get to buy right now. But he
gets to play no suspension. And I get it, it's
the playoffs and all of that, but it's not unprecedented
to see a star taken out of a game for
egregious activity and think what Murray did. You can't just

(01:02:08):
dismiss it as childish. The potential for danger was there,
and he got away with one and the only thing
he got were lustily booed and then he responded, ah,
big effort because he fueled off being booed. He got
a gift and he really cashed it in. That was
like the guy that got the gift card for one
hundred thousand dollars and said let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
When it comes to Jamal Murray and the NBA and
at ruling, I ended up being all for it, and
I think the NBA absolutely got it right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Here's a reason explained to me like I'm a five
year old.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
The reason they got it right is because if Jamarrow
Murray sits out, very very likely, the Nuggets are going home.
Their season is ended. And at the end of the day,
the NBA understands ends that it's about the players. You
want to allow the players to play the game. Now,
in terms of Jamal Murray, and you said, explain it

(01:03:08):
to a kid, that's the first time we've seen him
do anything like that. He's no saying he's not perfect,
but that is the first time we've seen him do
anything like that. So to say he needs to miss
the game, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
But if, for the first time in a game, Ryan Hollins,
you get mad in the low post because someone gave
you an album to the ribs and you turn and
punch him in the face, You're getting suspended, aren't you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
He didn't punch anybody, but he didn't nobody, Ryan, Hey,
he didn't punch anybody. Nobody got hurt. I'm sure he's
frustrated enough with himself. I'm sure he's publicly embarrassed. Lessons
should be learned. Now if he does something else, he's

(01:03:50):
going to be massacreed and he's going to probably miss
ample games with money. And I think that, like I said,
that golden rule is you want to see the players
on the floor playing the game. It doesn't need to
get personal egos, don't need to be involved. And again
that one silly act in a very emotionally charged situation

(01:04:15):
should not take him away from the game. But again,
if he hasn't learned his lesson, you keep doing it,
he's gonna be missing. Look at Draymond. Draymond got his mulligan,
so to speak to a couple of them. Okay, it
was egregious, Okay, Draymond said out. Then Draymond comes right
back and do something else. Nah, Draymond, take a completembatical whatever, vacation,

(01:04:38):
get counseling, whatever, from basketball. Go because you've done too much.
But I do agree that guys that they're truly shorry,
it will show. And Jamal Murray played well. And I
don't think that the entire organization. I don't think our
viewing experience should be ended. And the only thing and
this is what we chime back to m error. Oh

(01:04:58):
my goodness that you know what happened in the series,
Jamal Murray through that heating pack. You don't want that
to be the way that you remember what happened with
the defending champs. And you know what, Jamal Murray, you
put your team at risk. It was silly. He's got
to live with the choices that he made. And you know,
if a guy makes right by it, I'm all for
second chances, aren't you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
After he pays his penalty, which he didn't do except
to write a check to a charity.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Yeah, but if he misses, the series is over. But
that should but that shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
The deciding line. Oh you're down to nothing, so we're
just gonna kind of smile at you. No do that again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
You don't do that again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
It's gonna send them home and deprive us of a
potential game six or seven. If this was the second
that's the way you set it up, though, No changing
the series. So if it's tied one one, it's okay.
If you suspended game three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
No, I wouldn't suspend him either way. If it's the
first time he did it. Now, if he continually does it,
I do suspend him this first time. This is the
first time. They're not going to suspend a guy. My opinion,
that's the absolute right call for the first time. We
all do you know how emotional it is. Your emotions are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Any shooting three for eighteen. That was the closest you
claim to hitting a shop that day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
No, that was funny. That was funny. That was funny.
But let me give you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
It's like he was playing corn hole. He got it
right up and day against the road. But he did,
but it didn't go into it didn't hit him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Let me give you this, And this is just part
of being a pro. And it was silly. I'm not
saying that it's not silly. When you're playing professional basketball,
especially playoff basketball, your awareness, your fight or flight instincts
kick in. You are standing on the floor and there
are thousands of people cheering. You know that the game

(01:06:46):
is being broadcast to any and everyone all around the world, literally,
so those fight or flight responses are there, and ye's
why you get wacky, crazy stuff. That's why we're excited
to watch because you have all of the emotions involved
in the game and they're flaring, and Jamal Murray again
he let his emotions get the best of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
No, it's one thing, though, Ryan, if you do the
stop up and down like Lebron James did, which became mimable,
or you're chasing an official down the court, those those
emotional things, I get the I'm just gonna start chucking
stuff from the bench. I mean, that's not a bridge
too far.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
No, not the first time. No, I don't know what
he was trying to do. But I think again, the
right cause for him to not be suspended I got,
I got, I got zero problem with it, A good
zero problem, right, And I don't think about back to
and again, well let's go back to Draymond and these
these are the different situation but similar enough, because right

(01:07:44):
it would it would it would infringe on the ability
for the organization to win. You think about the championship
that Golden State lost. Sure, the only thing to this
day they talk about is him being suspended. Now, Draymond
was egregious the whole season, and he pushed it, and
he pushed it. Okay, so he missed. But that's the
only thing talked about this is not the same scenario here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
No, that was bad job by him. No. I mean
they're like, you can't equate that, you except for the
final act. But certainly, Yeah, Draymond had a file, you know,
like you were in the you know, going back to school,
if you were the kid that was in the principal's
office every day. I mean, I had a guy that
I supervised many years ago. I think the statute of
limitations is here. I mean the file was several inches

(01:08:29):
thick with things that you know, I marked as egregious
and we had to have sit downs or whatever. Guess
what he was still there and when I had to
go and add another one. Here it is. Here's the
big file once again. It was the Bart Simpsons sitting
down with superintended Chalmers and Skinner kind of thing. It
doesn't even fit in one file folder. After a while,

(01:08:51):
we need a second drawer kind of thing. That's where
Draymond was and is and all of that, and and
I get, you know, and everybody talks about his competitiveness
and tries to excuse it every way till Sunday. And
if you're in the organization, I guess that's what you
have to do. Right, You got to stick up for
your guy as best you can. It's Steve Kerr. Every

(01:09:11):
once in a while you could see the real words
kind of coming through the gritted teeth when he's at
the podium. And yes, Jamal was a It was a
first defense still still to me, a first defense with
two separate incidences packed therein because he didn't get the
reaction he wanted with the towel, so the heating back

(01:09:33):
came next.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
You know, look, agree to disagree. And maybe you know,
I'm not a guy that's played in the in a
heated NBA environment to where I would say, okay, this
gets the best of you. Just seems to where you're
throwing things. You know, we've regressed to our five year
old selves, which is why I asked you to explain
it to me like that five year old.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Well, I'm not saying that it was smart. It was
it was silly, it was downright stupid. But the end
of the day, nobody got hurt. And do you think
that the the Nuggets and their season should be ended
because of that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Oh, that's what's going to take you down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
No, no, no, I'm asking you their season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Yes, I will say yes, for what he did. I'm
not looking at it and saying, well, they're down to nothing. Boy,
this is really bad. This is really bad. But you
know what, they're down to nothing. So I've got a
lot of play because they're down to nothing. I think
that's symphasis.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I would they should make it the same Okay, for
the record, I would make the same call no matter what. Okay,
But at the end of the day, yes, is that
going to be somewhat of a factor. Yes, it's going
to be a factor. Okay, they are down to nothing.
That's the reality of the matter. It doesn't that that
is that, that doesn't go away. That's the reality. Now

(01:10:56):
let me ask you. Is it good for the league?
Is it good for the say? Is it good for
anybody other than No, it's great for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
The TV networks or whatever else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Is it great for you? Do you want to go?
Do you want to go for the next year and say,
what happened to the Nuggets made? Do they heating back
on the floor? No, you don't want to do that either.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
But that's the way these that's the way the wikipedia
world works, that's the way our sports talk radio works.
We evaluated in the moment and days later. I haven't
changed my mind on it, and you won't. It's the
idea that I have to say, Well, you know what
it would have affected the series, Like, well, then he
shouldn't have thrown stuff on the court. He shouldn't have

(01:11:39):
done outside of playing basketball. Look, you want to take
it up with the referees, take your fine when you
go and criticize him for not calling a foul, because look,
he got manhandled. I certainly would understand his frustration. You
can go back and he Michael Malone could have done
the full Rick Carlisle with seventy eight things. The way
that that game was officiated in Game two doesn't mean
you get to throw stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I'm not saying he's right. I believe every man deserves
a mulligan someone someone at some point in your life.
Mike gave you grace and said, hey, Harmon's Harmon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I still got set the time out. You can call
my mom on Mother's Day right now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, he got Harmon. Harmon's acting up. Guys. Harmon's acting up,
all right. He's he's acting at Nut. He's at it.
He's acting at Nut again. What are we gonna do?
I'll give it, give him some Grace, it's not Himmy
Bay had a bad day. He had a bad day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Oh I may throw stuff at Smith on Monday, just
to see what happens. He's Ryan Hollins on my Carbon here,
Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Let's get it over
to our guy, Isaac Loewen Kron, a man who nobody
has beef with at Isaac Kloan Crown. What's going on
for what's going on in our sporting universe?

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
Well, Mike and Ryan, speaking of Mulligan's, We've got one
from boxing coming up in just a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
But first, on to the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
Wearing Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals on
Saturday night, the Boston Celtics one in Cleveland, one oh
six to ninety three for a two games to one lead.
In the Stanley Cup Playoffs, on Saturday night, the Dallas
Stars won Game three of the Western Conference semi Finals
at Colorado four to one. Stars lee that series two
games to one. Baseball Saturday evening, the Los Angeles Dodgers

(01:13:20):
won at San Diego five to nothing, thanks in large
part to a Grand Slam home run by ti Oscar Hernandez.
San Francisco's Matt Chapman also at a Grand Slam home
run in their five to one win over Cincinnati Brewers
over the Cardinals five to three. Saint Louis has lost
seven in a row now. In a women's boxing match
on Saturday in Perth, Australia, WBA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes

(01:13:46):
went up against challenger Chinika Johnson. The fight went the distance,
but then talking about mulligans when it was time to
announce the decision, ring announcer Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, and now
all you got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Did you hear what I said?

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Lieutenant Dan Hennessy announced the wrong winner, So we'll play
the entire sequence where he first announced La la lando.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
That was something else.

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
The commentators you're gonna hear on the telecast, by the way,
Joe Tessitour and Tim Bradley.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Here it is your winner.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Min the pabajority decision and still.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
Alongsided scorecard of ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes
and holds a majority decision to go to seven and
zero and retain her world championship on a night where
Juanika Johnson it seemed like she was in control down
the stretch. And by the way, Nakamura, who had that
ninety eight ninety two scorecard, will be the referee.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
F Womachenko five five klebs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Course the con edition ninety six ninety four Gray Thy
two by Johny Fighting out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Is this guy real?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Is this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, You're real?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Get this dude up out of here, man, I mean,
what are we doing? Oh? My good, what are we doing?
Are we doing? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
What are we doing? Back this guy out of here?
Thanks Eilo. That is some of the best audio of
all the wackiness that we found on the road with
you Angel City FC. Later on this afternoon the special
Mother's Day edition. Our guy Ilo will be on the
call at Isaac Lohencron for all of that information as
well at the Ryan Hollins where you find my guy,
Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollen Dome. As always,

(01:15:57):
follow all of the trials and tribulations of our twenty
four hour cycle here at Fox Sports Radio. And coming
up next, an interesting decision by one NFL team another
one that has me scratching my head. We'll do that
next year on Fox. Greetings and welcome back in it's
Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio live fromth tirerat

(01:16:18):
dot Com studios my garment alongside Ryan Hollins. A nice
spirited discussion. Again, the podcast goes up after we're finished here.
In the end, I need content and I need storylines.
Whatever's gonna give me that and feed my engine? Ryan Hollins,
I'm all for it. I am a machine between that

(01:16:39):
and the coffee. Still looking for that sponsor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
An unforgiving machine.

Speaker 9 (01:16:43):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Absolutely, it's day one and done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
It's dad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I'm like college basketball these days. Look, that's true. It's true. Ran,
Here's a story that has legs the last couple of days,
and I thought it was starting to die and I
was like, well, by sound, this will be dead. So
we'll leave it in the rearview mirror. But it's kind
of a fun one. In the NBA NFL, who can

(01:17:09):
play where and how guys can excel and all those things.
Most NFL players started with Austin Rivers, of course, you know, saying, hey,
I could put thirty NBA guys in the NFL, and
we can look at Jimmy Grant, we can look at
the tight end position for sure, where guys have gone
into great success after some collegiate basketball. And we you know,
I heard Bucky on the show prior Bucky Brooks alongside

(01:17:31):
Andy Furman precedes us, you know, talking about Julius Peppers
and his role with the North Carolina basketball team, et cetera.
So trying to do that. Most of the NFL guys
that responded just said you wouldn't be tough enough because
we knock you out. Okay, okay. That said, let's get
into the athleticism and skill sets or whatever else. And

(01:17:52):
I was gonna let it die until Patrick Mahomes showed
up at the OKC Dallas game yesterday and up to
the broadcast booth, and this is when Dave Pass said quote,
Pat unsolicited just turned to Hubey and I and said,
lou Dort could play in the NFL. I don't know
if he was kidding or serious, but he said he
could play linebacker or running back. So there you go,

(01:18:15):
Ryan Hollins, you want to go run some routes, some
post routes, maybe make you a post up guy in
the end zone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Yeah, listen, I love to, but now I don't think
I'm among the players that has a frame that could
do it. Although I'd love to it. My flag football
career goes goes wonderfully.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
But you know you're playing some flag football now I have.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
I'm a big flag football guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Man, How did I not know this about you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Well? Yeah, I mean I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
There? Yeah, because then we can get the sponsorships going.
We can get you a cleat deal in the whole
nine yard and I mean with that reach, man, I
can get you towards the corner of the end zone.
I've now given my quarterback, even if they're wildly erratic,
and extra five yards of throwing space.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Yeah. Yeah. Flag football. Now, here's where I sta some feet,
isn't it. Here's where I stand with it? And I
do want to acknowledge something and he knows it. For one,
My guy, Austin rivers unfortunately to this day, no matter
what he's gonna do, he's gonna hear you don't deserve this.

(01:19:30):
You don't deserve that. You got it because your dad.
You got it because of this. Does that help? Yeah?
But Austin went out and paved his way. He's a
hard worker. He deserves what he got. But Austin, because
the opportunities he was afforded is going to be heavily
scrutinized by guys that didn't have those same opportunities. That's
just part of it. Austin understands it, he receives it,

(01:19:51):
he moves forward. Now, my guy, James Jones, who went off.
The one thing that he's frustrated with is the tone
in which what he was said and how was said
from Austin was received as if in correct me if
I'm wrong, it's easy to play in the NFL. Any
Joe off the Street can go and do it. And

(01:20:12):
I don't think that's a fair message. But I don't
think that's what Austin was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
No, I think that is absolutely true. We'll continue to
break this down as well as getting back into the
NBA playoffs. He's Ryan, I'm Mike, and this is Fox
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it right off the jump. It's a big NBA playoff day.
Oh wait, it's also Mother's Day. Got to remember that
mom's Grandma's aunties. Everybody. It takes a village to raise
little ones into responsible beings or semi responsible beings. So

(01:21:04):
make sure to shoot the note over flowers chocolates. Spa
day an hour to just contemplate the meaning of life
in silence. Whatever it is that mom wants, what mom
wants mom should get. How's that?

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Ryan?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Did I encapsulate that? Well enough?

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
All right, you said that? Quite?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
If you need to take an hour for yourself, do
that too. Let's look after each other and look after
ourselves a little bit too, that whole self care because
it is mental health Awareness month as well, so we
try to be cognizant of that as we all go
through the highways and byways of life, you know, throwing
towels at each other and snapping towels or whatever the
case may be. As we are Ryan and I here

(01:21:47):
for another hour having some fun going through the NBA playoffs.
We ended last hour Ryan with a little bit of
the Austin Rivers discussion. I think you made a great
point the end. You know, we always try to read
into intent, and let's face it, for hot take nonsense
in our business, because you're on this side of the glass. Now,
folks are gonna read into what they will. And it's

(01:22:08):
always the best when they put it on Twitter, because
then you know, you can purposefully ignore the sarcasm that's
dripping down as someone says something, or where they're kind
of nodding and winking as they say it, you know,
where everybody's in on the joke. Whereas you know, with
Austin Rivers, I think he was just kind of saying, like,
guys are athletic, and I think there's thirty guys. The

(01:22:31):
way bodies have developed now, right, because the average NBA
player doesn't look like the guy from thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
The supplements are different, the training habits are different. It's
a three sixty five job, whereas back in the day,
we can argue it probably wasn't for most guys, and
that doesn't mean that they weren't good players and in
their time in space and great athletes. But now we're
talking about, you know, something something a little bit different.
As we watch NBA Action go cook, you know, sideline

(01:23:00):
to sideline and post to post, you know. And I
think that's what Austin Rivers was more getting at than
trying to do the word better than you, which is
how Jones took it. And I think part of that
was it's going to make for better television if I
take offense to it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah, that was absolutely it. So I think from a hey,
you don't appreciate my sport and what I do and
the hard work that goes into it, that's how it
was taken. And I absolutely agree with Austin Rivers clearly.
Even Patrick Mahomes agrees.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
You watch a guy take a couple of big hits.
I mean, like Jalen Brunson right now, you're telling me
I can't put him in the B gap the way
he goes and attacks. I'm not saying he's going to
be good for twenty carries for seventeen weeks, but I
think I can get him the ball a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Look actually, be Derek's training with Eric Bledsoe. Eric Blidsoe
for sure could do it, could do that get it
boton Jr. So yeah, you can probably go and get
thirty guys, and obviously, hey, mentality is important.

Speaker 7 (01:24:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
The running joke and I knew you heard this before, Mike,
is that you know, every every basketball player is a
is a yeas it's a football player who went to
the Oklahoma Drill or walked away or couldn't make it
on a certain day. So I get it, you get
your accolades. Hats off to the football players, much loved there.
But the reality is in the sport is there are

(01:24:27):
guys that can have never played football a day in
their life because their body type and frame and depending
on the position, they can step in after a collegiate career.
And that's why the NFL, there's a reason this is
from the NFL. The NFL will go out and scout
basketball players, collegiate basketball players and say, hey, you should

(01:24:50):
come make it in the NFL. And some of these
guys have succeeded at a very high level. You have
never in the history of ever seeing an NBA team
go and watch a football game and say or a
collegiate football player and say, hey, man, I think you
got a career in the NBA one day. It hasn't happened.

(01:25:10):
So there's a lot of truth behind it to Jones
and all my football brother in nothing but respect. There's
a reason why a lot of us don't do it.
And there are some very tough people in the NBA.
Let's not tel the disrespect out there, and a lot
of it is body type and no, hey, think about
a guy like Charlie Ward. Maybe Charlie Ward's the only
one who did it, who's that talented and say, you

(01:25:32):
know what, I'm gonna choose. The NBA shut out Charlie
Ward by the way. So yes, let's not discredit. It's
nothing but love on both sides. But I think at
the end of the day, yes, Austin Rivers was correct.
They just didn't like it. Harmon you agree with me?
They liked the way he said it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Well, look there was I think you can read into
some of the dismissiveness of it. Again if you work
your whole life to do something right, I mean, look
at look at this business. Right Folks go to journalism school,
go through the paces, rise up as they do over years,
and then someone just walks in and takes the job
ahead of them. I understand, like the old way of

(01:26:11):
doing media and stuff like it's any business.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Right, players, Look at best tight end in the NFL.
And he was a college basketball player.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
He was a very it was a very good poached
up red zone guy. He and Drew Brees certainly works
some magic.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
You know Tony Gonzalez, you know you Antonio Gates. There
certainly guys and and I would refute, I like, someone's
got to step forward, because I got to imagine guys
were scouted, right, because you got some receivers that go
and fly that might have gotten gotten a look sie.
I mean again, it's all about skills, translation and whatever else.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
You know, just because someone didn't make it that path
doesn't mean that they didn't get a look sie. Right,
guys are trying to find talent wherever they can go, Right,
they're on the back lots. They're gonna go hang down
on the blacktop in Venice if they think they can
find a guy that'll sign a two way deal and
be of any use to them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
So is so we certainly have that, and the expansion
of football leagues outside of the NFL certainly do that.
But you know, we certainly see NFL scouts traveling. All right,
here's a rugby guy, here's a lacrosse guy like you
bring him into camp, right. Brock Lessner was a you know,
football player, went on to UFCWWE fame whatever he was

(01:27:25):
with the Vikings cup of coffee some rookie guards. If
you want to go back and collect those, Ryan, I
know you're looking to add to your collection, so maybe
you can go do that. But you know, it's like anything, right,
if you built some level of acumen in whatever profession
it is, and you think someone can take a shortcut,
you're gonna get mad, right, So that's certainly I can

(01:27:48):
understand you. Bristol's like I worked my blankety blank off
in two days, and that's where the toughness thing came in.
I would say for those NBA players that would have
had the option, you made a business to sit and
for that long term health. Probably a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
For your bank account because it's guaranteed money. You made
a good one too if you made it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Yeah, And you know what, like I said, some of
those guys are that darn talented, you know, or they
just have those those bodies. And keep in mind, you know,
you have like the Randy Mosses who were just standout
high school athletes. But you know, keep in mind, Randy
Moss is only six y four. You know, hey, John
Wall is another one of those guys. If you've seen
how fast John Wall was definitely you know in his

(01:28:33):
prime and in his day Russell Westbrook. So there's a
lot of guys quickly from Philadelphia. So like, there's a
lot of guys who could do it. But do they
want to? Is it smart? No? They probably probably choose
not to. But there's a lot. But again, do not
just credit the mental toughness of a lot of these guys.
And we've seen it on every league, every level, and

(01:28:53):
every sport. And I think the biggest thing is, like,
you're not going to go them off the streets unless
you've been playing for at a very high level and
step into a position like a Patrick Mahomes. You're not
going to go in and be an All Pro quarterback. Okay, now,
a tight end possibly wide receiver. Hey, maybe you know
what I'm saying. And tight end right now is the

(01:29:16):
most I would say transferable skill set from a basketball
player in a football.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Height posted up all of that, right, it's a lot
of the same footwork and movement that you would have. Yeah,
you bulk up a little bit but you're already at
the height advantage, right, because that's the thing you get
back into it. For Graham and for you know, Gates
wasn't as tall, but you know, the low post skills
like I always equated and Kwon Bolden was a guy

(01:29:44):
that I don't know that it would translate to the
NBA hardwood, but it was how I always described how
he would be able to find and create space to
catch passes, basically low post skills of boxing out. I
see it, you know, watching soccer games, you know, in
the pros and at every level below it. You know,
you can tell which teams are bringing basketball players or

(01:30:07):
folks that have developed skills in other sports, and how
easy to apply it because that's what they're familiar with
and that gives them more comfort on the field. I
think this whole exercise, though Ryan, has been an extension
of the old can this guy play in this age?
Just adding another sport to it, right, because we always

(01:30:28):
try to do the transport of a guy through a
space time continuum. Let's go to Marvel, right, so they're
gonna go, all right, we've got to make this jump.
It's gonna be like you know, when they went went
through and tried to get all the infinity stones. There
you go, my nerd moment of the morning we always do.
That was like, all right, that player couldn't play in

(01:30:50):
this league. It's like, does he have the same nutritional
supplements in training and the different emphasis on how the
season and offseason goes versus in nineteen eighty or you know,
guys from the sixties, are they playing against the athletes
of today? Again we if we're gonna go and say, well,
these guys would have dominated in the past, Like are

(01:31:11):
they they still getting the same benefits of the science
and nutrition that we have here, or are they, you know,
still adhering to the fact that you used to have
doctors doing PSAs for cigarette smoking, Like what are we
what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, you're right about that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
We take parts of it and we don't move. So
I think it's kind of that same argument now just
expanded to sports. So you can have a verbal slap fight.
And it's been fun to watch because everybody tries to
put up their list of these guys and certainly the
way Lebron James and Clyde Drexler run through people, I'll
give them the ball at the goal line, let's go
put that head down of it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Just I gotta acknowledge this too. Were I don't know
if we think Kat Williams or are we It's about
the people, it's what the people want. But it seems
like there's this this this beef era. Everybody everything wants
to going to a beef and get your numbers up.

(01:32:09):
And I don't know. To me, Hey, if it's something
that's organic, you're disappointed in something that somebody said or
something went on, Hey, you have your disappointments there. But
if you're doing it for clicks, I'm not a huge
fan of it.

Speaker 10 (01:32:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
You got to be able to keep that act up,
is really what it comes down to. Ryan, Hey, because
you get the bit for a second. And for some
of those guys, I see you over there, Quentin Grimes,
still not a nick. If you can keep that act
up for years, good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Well. I'm not big on the act, especially once you
hit a certain age. You want to know why, because
we en on the school yard no more. Man, he's
a grown man with family, So I hope these things
are genuine, you know when they happen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Yeah, you can keep hoping He's Ryan hollidst the Ryan
Hollins find me over at Swollen Home. And if you
got beef, you know what you can do. You can
settle it in the ring and maybe the announcer will
call the wrong winner. Sure, we'll hear that again in
a few minutes with our guy Isaac Lowing Crowd. He's
Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Carmen, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday.

(01:33:17):
Coming up next. We'll get back into the NBA playoffs
couple of games later on today. Let's find some insights
from our guy, Ryan Hollins as to what he expects.
Can the Nuggets even things up where the t Wolves
respond in grand fashion? That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Now I going to go either to an amusement park

(01:33:37):
or to watch animated cars Coot Show Show. Ryan Hollins,
we're here liventheti RAQ dot Com Studios. Ryan Hollins with
me on, Mike Carmon, thanks for being with us here.
Iowa Sam with us this morning. It's good to see Sam.
I haven't seen him in a while here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Ryan, So surprise Sam is working this early.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Man, Well, you know what sometimes sicked.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
In this.

Speaker 10 (01:34:01):
You raise your hand and you say I got you. Yeah,
And that's what Sam did today, Ryan, Wow. Yeah, he
texted me and I'm like, Sam, does someone have your phone?
Should I call the ignorities?

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
No? Sam, is this is really him? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
That would have been interesting, That would have taken a
deep dive to dark turn perhaps.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
I mean, I thought somebody, you know, legitimately me, was
trying to be him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
You know, I'm here, He's alive, and he's free. Who
wouldn't want to be in.

Speaker 9 (01:34:27):
Control of my own phone? There you go to tell you,
Ryan Helens that I'm on the show with you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah, we got our guys, Shay, we got Isaac Lowancron
on the updates. Having a blast with you this morning.
Happy Mother's Day. Wherever you are, however you're celebrating, take
a moment, make the call. If you're able to make
the call. I know for some it's difficult. It's relationships
at any level are aren't always easy. But you know
you got you got today, so go make the best
of it. And that's as preachy as I'm gonna get.

(01:34:54):
Unless we start talking about towel throwing again. You can
find that in Kier discussion in the podcast that'll go
up after we're done wherever you get your podcast. Fox
Sports Sunday Hollins and Harmon. We appreciate you being with
us and give us a few minutes of your time today,
Ryan later on Today. First up, we got the Knicks
and the Pacers Game four, Indiana five and a half

(01:35:18):
points favorites. If you're in the greater Indianapolis area, you
can get in for under one hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
There's a mother's day for you. Watch the Knicks and
work ethic and then have your mom, grandma, aunt whomever
look at you and say, why don't you work that hard?
Who's left standing in this one? Here? How many more
employers can the Knicks potentially lose to injury and exhaustion.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
I think Indy takes this one too. I think they do.
I think it's just too much to overcome. We talked
about it earlier in the show. I think og Anubi
just bring it just means too much of the ball
club and I don't think that they can recover from
him missing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
So we've got Haliburton and you saw him leaving the
podium the other day after the wind He's grimacing as
he was walking back towards the locker room. And again,
you know there's a conversation I know you and Smith
had when you filled in for me a week ago Friday,
and something we talked about a little bit last week
and certainly today with Luca is we're still trying to

(01:36:29):
get through that injured versus hurt phase of things and
how quickly guys can recover. Obviously younger bodies. Look, I'm
an old man. I miss step and my ankle hurts
for weeks. That's where I'm at in my life. That's
the fate I have. But when you're in your mid twenties,
the body has great restorative properties, not to mention all

(01:36:49):
of the different machines and opportunities for therapists to work
on you to get you right. Any concerned with Haliburton
going into Game four here.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
No, he's young, and this is I've been there before.
You fall on your tailbone. Listen, I fell off my
tailbone in the playoffs, and I mean I could barely walk.
But once you get worked on, the adrenaline gets flowing
and once you get running, you're okay. That's something you
can play through. But some of these injuries, man, they
just they just hurt. And when when you're out there,

(01:37:21):
you're gutting it up, you're putting everything in. And if
you had a chance to see some of these guys
that literally limp out of the arena, I mean hobbled, hurt,
you know, feeling it, you would you would be like, man,
I can't believe they going they do that again, you know.
So it's not the NFL. It's a different type of physicality.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
But I would say a lot of those NFL guys though,
they got a lot more padding on the backside, so
the tailbone injury probably not as common.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Well, it's false. It's not about the padding. It's where
you get hit or where you get falls. It's the
wrong place. It's all about the placement. So that's a
to those guys, man. I'm telling you, man, it takes
a lot for those NBA players to get up and
keep going. And everybody has different paying thresholds. Sure, you know,

(01:38:10):
so I do think he'll play, you'll play at a
high level. I do give the advantage to the pacers
because their strengthen is in numbers, and I think for
New York they just need to get og Beck and
that's a big factor they're and keep in mind, I'm
saying this, and these were all close games, you know,
but I don't think they have enough because the hustle
and the way he's able to neutralize, they're able to

(01:38:31):
defend much better with him on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Well, that's been the fun of it, right, looking at
that series, and I guess that would be the larger
criticism if you were ready to take the thirty thousand
foot view of things, Ryan is a lot of these
games are harkening back to the NBA of yesteryear, mostly
regular season. But let's just say it for purposes of
the conversation, where it was the all right, I'll tune

(01:38:54):
in with four minutes and see what the score is.
Because you're seeing blowouts early and runouts early, and you're
always going to get a run, right. It's a game
of runs, game of emotion and swings. One call, one
big make or a big block could change succeed. I
got the big man in there because I wanted to
get a big block shot mixed therein, or a big

(01:39:15):
rebound right where you battle and you know, you swing
a little bit, not too wildly, but enough to say
this is my house kind of thing. You know, all
of those kind of things that come in and can
change a little bit of a complexion of a game.
But some of these games, I tell you, Ryan, like
that's the one thing we have not been cheated for
a minute in Knicks Pacers. You can argue it about

(01:39:36):
officiating what should should have been called the kickball thing.
All of those there's a million plays and that's the
way it is with every game. But the fact that
from pillar to post we're getting two teams battling for
forty eight minutes. I mean, sign me up for seven games,
ten games, whatever we want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
No, it's been fun and you hit it right on
the head. You know, whether whether you like Jason Smith
his knicks or not, they have been just really the
story of the playoffs man, with what they've you know,
really brought, uh brought to these games and how hard
they played and just going at it and the physicality
air like they have been the team. Man, I think

(01:40:19):
it has been very fun to watch what they've done.
It's a team you got to cheer for. I think
at this point everybody should be a Jalen Brunson fan.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Yeah, if you're not, But you know what, Ryan, that's
a good jump off, right, because Smith and I were
talking about this the other day, and naturally he was go,
New York Go. It's actually in some of the promos
him screaming and busting my ear drum, all of that stuff.
But Jalen Brunson, Steph Curry right in terms of shots
down the stretch. It's a fun little discussion given the

(01:40:52):
the over that that Steph has in playoff moments down
the stretch. But for Jalen Brunson, I don't know that
I ever seen more media people kind of say I
was wrong about something as quickly as they did to
throw flowers at him, like people hold on to the
most idiotic beliefs because it was good hot take nonsense again,

(01:41:13):
going to the discussion earlier this hour about going for
clicks versus living in reality. But Jalen Brudson, remember everybody
about his contract and everything else, and now all of
a sudden it said, I completely underestimated this guy. My goodness.
I joked about Jay Wright even he did an interview
going yeah, I didn't know he'd be this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
I'm not mad at it. I felt the same way.
I really liked him. I was confused why he ended
up being a second round pick. I really liked what
he brought to the table. I saw what he was
able to do in the College Championship. I mean, he's
just he's tough as nails. He just finds a way

(01:41:54):
to win. And that is an interesting conversation. I think
there's some validity there. Let me chime back to do
what you threw out about Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Lebronso v v Curry, and part of Jason's argument, just
to give it full color, Ryan was the fact that
because he uses his body and his builds so effectively,
he creates space to give himself options, something Steph struggles
with latent games.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
He's never going to have the effect that Curry's going
to have on a ballgame as far as stretching your defense,
just tearing up your your strategies that you have to
use to play against him and guard him. He's not
as prolific by any means as Steph, but there's some

(01:42:39):
accuracy as far as closing out games. He can get
a shot off much better than Steph over contact, and
he lives, like you know, in the mid range area.
So there is some validity there. There's some there's some
dog in that fight, so I will I will give
that credit. He definitely deserves his props. And for Steph Man,
he's a monster. There's no there's no challenging there. But

(01:43:01):
as far as you know, if you're nitpicking Steph, no,
it's hard for him to get his shot off when
those moments are very tight. Is he a clutch player. Yeah,
he's pulled up and hit many tough shots. It's crazy
when people even challenge that from Steph Curry. But at
the end of the day, yes, Brunson's game is more
equipped for those tight spaces because he scores in the

(01:43:21):
mid range and it's very hard for you to double
team those spots and he can score over your length.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
He's Ryan Hollins on Mike Carmen. We'll get to the
other game that comes up later on tonight five pm
Pacific time. That'll be on TNT. Hey enjoy them while
you got them. It's one of those messages of the
day because we don't know how much longer we get
to have shack At and Barkley and those guys yelling
at each other either. But we'll get to that game.
Denver Minnesota a huge game four coming up, but first,

(01:43:50):
let's kick it over to our guy for one final
time on our run. It's our guy, Isaac Loehenkron. I
think he's actually eating an in and out Hamburger and
just kind of housing Hollands Hollands like he's training for
a prize fight. Got him to open up early for me,
just to make you envious over there in what a

(01:44:12):
burger land, or as I call it, whatever burger land. Yo,
here we go. Wow at Isaac Lohenkron, at the Ryan
Hollands at Fox Sports.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
I'll stop dunking on you, Ryan, the way you once
dunked on Andre Blatch.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
See, we got toss a compliment in there. Do you
even remember that?

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
I will never forget that for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
God, all right, neither will he. Apparently you know who
you are and he'll just say Andre Blatt, damn right.
Also never forgetting Boston fans, at least for the short term.
Because in Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals
on Saturday and night, the Celtics one in Cleveland what
six to ninety three for a two games to one
lead by led by Jason Tatum's thirty three points. Jalen

(01:44:57):
Brown added twenty eight. The Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday
night saw the Dallas Stars win Game three of the
Western Conference semi Finals at Colorado four to one. Stars
league that series two games to one.

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
It was a.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
Saturday evening filled with grand slam home runs in Major
League Baseball. Ti Oscar Hernandez of the Dodgers a grand
slam of their five nothing victory at San Diego. The
Dodgers have won eight of nine. San Francisco's Matt Chapman
a grand slam of the first inning of the giants
five to one win over the Cincinnati reds Now. It
is really trending, is what happened in women's boxing on

(01:45:29):
Saturday in Perth, Australia, as WBA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes
took on challenger Shanika Johnson. The fight went the distance
and then when it was time to announce the decision,
the ring announcer, a gentleman by the name of Lieutenant
Dan Hennessy, announced the wrong winner. So what you're gonna

(01:45:54):
hear is he'll announce the wrong winner. The commentators Joe
Tessitor and Tim Bradley on television talking about the verdict
and then in the background you can hear Hennessy tell
the fighters to come back into the center of the
ring and with the same level of enthusiasm and not
an ounce of regret, announce the different winner here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
It is your winner by the Paul majority decision and still.

Speaker 7 (01:46:31):
Alongsided scorecard of ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes
and holds a majority decision to go to seven and
zero and retain her world championship on a night where
Juanika Johnson, what this seems like she was in control
down the stretch.

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
And by the way, Nakamora, who had that.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Ninety eight ninety two scorecard, will be the referee for Womachenko.
Five five Kiles calls a competition ninety six.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Camora jority finding is this guy real?

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Is this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
Liutenant Dan Hennessy, you're real?

Speaker 7 (01:47:19):
Get that ludam out of here, man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
I mean, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Good? What do we do it? Are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Actually? And I'm told we there was actually some more
audio after that that we're just getting in right after that.
Let's listen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
We lost, by the way, but I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
No, there's a mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
There's a mistake. Moonlight. You guys won best picture.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
How fascinating. Back to you guys, thanks, and I Sinklow
and crown where you find him? Catch him later today
Greater LA Area and of course on the iHeart radio app,
the Angel City FC plays a Mother's Day tilt. Try
to give the promotion, should do the work he does?
You want to talk about the uh, the enthusiasm of
a call and the UH riding the lightning, Ryan Hollins

(01:48:07):
listen to an I Low call of an Angel City game,
and the guy lives and dies for that full ninety plus.
We're playing Houston tonight, by the way, the planet Houston. See,
so now it's personal.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
My condolence is in advance, is all right? We'll see
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Unlike Daniels and andre Abers, should should we just get
a bet on air because we're not bolding that. I'm
actually not allowed. We're I've been holding Oh you are, Yeah,
you're an NFL employee. So I can't even have him
do that. That's terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
I'll bet on in and out over one Burgers probably
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Nobody betting, say no, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Trying to get some friendly wagers about that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
I can't wait in and out over what a burger?

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Yeah, yeah, see now he's getting all chests.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
To he's going there. He's going there. But he's going there.
He is, he's really he's there. He's like all the
way there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Yeah, speaking of going there now that he's throwing bows here.
Later on tonight we've got game four t Wolves. They
were bullied, they were punched around. Jamal Murray came out big,
and they came out flat. Two nothing lead opportunity to
you know, use the old ted nuge and stranglehold opportunity
against the Nuggets, and they fell flat. Anthony Edwards after

(01:49:23):
the game said, look, I didn't have the energy. It
was my fault. Like he tried to wear it. Young
leaders and young guys take it up in the podium,
no excuses, no you know this that the other just saying, hey,
we didn't come ready to play and match their energies.
All five starters for Denver in double figures last time out.

(01:49:43):
How do they curb that and get back to the
team they were for those first two games when people
were writing the Nuggets off into oblivion.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Well, for the Nuggets, you've got to attack Jamal Murray
and make him defend you know what a player like that,
Sometimes your best defense is your offense. Hire him out,
test that ankle out, and their dominant wins. The first
two games. They challenged him full court, they made him
have to handle the basketball, they made him have to
zig and zag, and they tired him out. And just

(01:50:13):
Anthony Edwards is right. The energy was on the side
and the pace of the Nuggets. They controlled the game completely,
and then you got to attack Yelkic. He plays in
a deep drop. Mike Conley's a guy who can attack it.
So you got to get very specific the way that
you go at the Nuggets. And then Karl Anthony Towns,
he's got to be in that twenty point range. Okay,

(01:50:34):
And obviously the calling card is the defense. But at
the end of the day, you got to be able
to score the basketball. And if there is an achilles
heel the Timberwolves, they get very pedestrian offensively. They can't
fall into those lulls, which means pick up the pace,
get up and down, try to turn over the Nuggets
and see if you can pressure them, which they did
a great job of. You have a chance to get

(01:50:55):
out in transition and then make the hustle plays. Maybe
it isn't just scoring a basketball, it's hitting the glass,
offensive rebounds, transition, the little controllable. So if you're the Nuggets,
you got to get back to what got you there.
All that said and done. If Jamal Murray plays up
the standard he plays like we know he's capable of,
I'm gonna go with the Nuggets in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Looking to even it up. Yeah. The first two games, right,
they disrupted Jokic wasn't able to do get into his
normal space, and physicality was the order of the day, right,
beat up on him a little bit, and certainly Jamal Murray.
And again it goes back to why the frustration really mounted.
Not only was his shooting percentage lower, Ryan, but plenty

(01:51:37):
of instances where he's getting physical, right, and he's getting
beat up a little bit, and now it becomes the
all right, what's a regular season fall versus what's a
playoff file and a play on kind of situation, And
he was looking for some of the star calls that
didn't come, and the frustration mounted. But keeping a body
on him has got to be the key to all

(01:51:59):
of this. You got six falls each, go use him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
Yeah, yeah, and that's what I think what really threw
Yokich off. He said, man, they have the bodies to
throw at me. They were they were physical, they're tough,
they're they're deep and put their hands on me. And
the reason that I say, Jamal Murray is the key.
Remember this, Jamal Murray's the guy that frees up Yo Kicic.

(01:52:23):
Yokich is going to make the team play. So if
he's not on and he's not playing well, Nicola Jokic,
he can play one on one, but he gets going
to be put in situations we got to play more
one on one than he'd like to play.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Harman. This is Fox Sports Sunday.
Here Fox Sports Radio. We would be REVESSI if we
didn't finish out our tenure here with a little conversation
about the coaching carousel and one candidate who has stepped
forward here in the City of Angels. Should he be
We'll talk about that next year on Fox Welcome back
in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Garment

(01:53:02):
alongside my guy Ryan Hollins. Ryan, it has been a
very fast three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Some spirit show with Ryan Rollins, Ryan Rollins, did you
know that's who you did the show with? No gold?
Check out the tweet? Oh no, go check out the tweet?
Is that Isaac getting me back?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Hold on, you might have created some beef and that's
how he got bag at you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Ryan Rollins did a great job today.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
You did. You did a hell of a job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I got to say, thank you, Isaac. You win, You win,
Isaac with that one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
He's giving you the victory.

Speaker 6 (01:53:39):
Ilough, I humbly accepted, as humbley as Andre Blatch accepted
his fate so many years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Gosh, and now people are going to be looking up.
All right, go back and Jordan.

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
Hill if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Oh wow, he's a researcher.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
You want me to start singing body count by body count,
the body count?

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
Goodness? What would Ryan Rollins do?

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
Come on, man, I got some iced tea in got
to celebrate that. I mean, they're back on tour too.
Remember bringing that album home. My dad was not too
pleased with a couple of the tracks they're in until
he listened a little closer, was like, yeah, okay, I
get it. I understand the angst at the Ryan Hollins
with an h find me over at to Rolandome at

(01:54:25):
Fox Sports Radio. All right, so we've got a job
opening here in Los Angeles. Look, the one in Phoenix
got filled really quick. Budenholzer gets another shot, evidently our
own Doug Gottlieb and others saying well, he had interviewed
for the job long before Frank Vogel was even dismissed.
Going back to last week. But so that job is filled.

(01:54:45):
As Budenholzer tries to work with the collection of stars
therein and whatever, the next iteration of the Suns becomes
Ryan but here in Los Angeles trying to read the
tea leaves, and Budenholzer was a betting favorite for the
Lakers job early last week and now obviously five years,
fifty one million dollars or thereabouts is what he's getting

(01:55:06):
to to shepherd the Suns forward, JJ Reddick, Kenny Atkinson,
where are we going for?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Where?

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Where's the best fit from Lebron and ad at this
stage of their careers, because knowing that the leash has
been pretty short on these guys in the post Phil
Jackson era.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
The best fit is a coach that has Lebron's respect
and ear and the challenge is you think of JJ Reddick.
I think JJ Reddick's going to get the job. I
think he's the best fit of job is you don't
know what you're going to get. And that's why when

(01:55:48):
you speak about the coaching carousel, why is that big?
It's big because these coaches go from one spot to
the next because they're good coaches. They didn't forget how
to coach. They've had success in the NBA. But if
you can't get on the same page with the player
or the players on that roster, they're going to move
forward from you. And then when you're an organization that

(01:56:11):
doesn't have a coach, you know what you're gonna do.
You're gonna go out and say, man, I gotta go
with someone who's had success here before. I got to
at least get someone who's done it. I got to
get someone who can fill the position. So it beats
me why Bootenholzer is not good enough to still be
the coach of the Bucks, but he's clearly good enough

(01:56:32):
to be the coach of the Suns or another organization.
So that's just kind of the weird little elephant in
the room where the coach at Garasel continues to go
because you could be well qualified, you can be great. Heck,
you can win Coach of the Year, you can win
a championship, but you are gonna have to go coach
somewhere else. But the best thing about it is there's

(01:56:54):
another organization that sees your body at work that's going
to bring you in willingly. We call these rich people problems.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
But we talk about it all the time. Right, is
especially the NBA, and look, it's there in other sports
for sure, but superstars having us say right, because you
have five guys that they are so integral to what's
going on. When you've got a superstar like Lebron Lebron James,
you don't get as much as Windhorse and other guys

(01:57:22):
could say, well, they distanced himself with this. I don't
buy that for a second that they're not having some
impact and influence over the coaching hiring process. Not telling
me Genie Boss, Brop, po Link and company aren't trying
to navigate with the understanding of what Lebron James and
Anthony Davis want and doing so by reading Tea leaves

(01:57:45):
as with Boden Alter, I mean that becomes the question
then how much of the invisible hand in any of
these moves was Giannis and Tenna Kumpo and tried to
make him happy. Right, you had a guy, you were
thirty and thirteen, and you just missed a coach in
Milwaukee this year. So the hand of the star players
certainly in effect. And I guess having a wine a
podcast where you talk basketball and drink wine with the

(01:58:07):
guy is a good start to build that rapport.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Yeah, it always is. And you know, Lebron is the
type of player that if someone's going to have a say,
I guess he kind of deserves it. Now, for Lebron,
all this does is put more pressure on him. Well, no,
because they're ready. No, because every other guy is the
fall guy.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Yeah yeah, well, hey, it's never Ron's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
He gonna have no one else to blame, all right.
And I'm not saying that Lebron is doing to blame me, okay,
but obviously he has some people who he gets along
with more than others. Hey, the perfect guy will be
Tyron Little.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
But the thing is coach, he's kind of got a contract.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
He's in a contract. Or Spolstra. The reason I bring
those two names up, they went championships with Lebron. They're
showing any questions there?

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Well, Sponstra, that was a guy he tried to get
fired his first year.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
Well maybe, you know, maybe they mended. We ended up winning.
He was good for me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Well, you got about bringing back Frank vogel one with him? Yeah, yeah,
but he'd have to commit to paying defense. At this point,
I say, screw it all and bring pat Riley back.
Let's go, or bring Phil back as the disembodied head
on a television screen. You don't even need physically be here.
Phil will zoom you in.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
How do you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
You want to talk about thinking outside the box? Oh goodness, no,
I dig your spolster thing. I man, Maybe he's done
with Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
Well, I'm not saying those are realistic candidates by any choice.
Tyler will probably be the most. Really Well, it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Most realistic and logical. But a year left on the deal,
they at letting him go down the hallway there.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
I'm big for JJ. Let's get some new blood worked
out with Steve Kerr. Why not? But for Lebron, Hey,
you know what, this is clearly your guy. There's no
questions here, so you can't go fussing about it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
That sounds like a former player who wants to coach
some day. He's Ryan Hollins, Ryan Hawins following me over
at Swollen Dome. Coming out next. We've got Dan byer
Kerry Rhoades here. Happy Mother's Day for Fox.

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