The Bernie Fratto Show: NCAA Football Conference Championship Week, Lakers Struggles, NFL Week 14 Preview, and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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tire buying should be. Well, I would suspicion the good
folks at Tuscaloosa between now and ten hours from now,
we'll have rope burns from their rosary praying for the
best possible outcome. They watched from the sidelines today and

(00:47):
now they get to watch from the sideline Sunday to
see what the committee decides. And that's what I'm going
to attempt to do here in the next five minutes
is not tell you who I think should be in
or who deserves to be in. I'm going to try
to make a prediction as to who the committee will
put in. And you know exactly where I'm going with this.
Is it going to be Alabama or is it going

(01:08):
to be SMU. And so for those who listen, selectively,
try not to because I'm gonna check a lot of
boxes here for starters. Let's ask you a question that's
not a rhetorical question. Would Alabama beat SMU? Yes, yes
they would, Yes, yes they would. Would SMU have beaten

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Georgia this year, LSU or South Carolina or Missouri? No, no, no,
they wouldn't have. I don't think so. But BAMA beat
Georgia and LSU and South Carolina and Missouri. By the way,

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SMU lost to Clemson Saturday night. Who lost to Georgia
and South Carolina? If you're scoring at home, the cumulative
record of Bama's upon was ninety two and fifty two,
forty games over five under. The cumulative record of SMUs
opponents were eighty three and seventy five. And uh, you know,

(02:12):
I get it. Who wore SMU's biggest wins. Louisville pitt
Okay had a prior to Saturday. Their lone loss was
a three point loss at BYU, a team that up
until last week was in the mix for the Big
twelve title game. Give it up to SMU. Eleven and two.
First year at a brand new conference, they were picked

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to finish seventh and they defied the odds as it were.
So they had a good season. You know, they they
made it to their conference champions You get me. SM
had a very good season.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
By the way, SME doesn't have a quote bad loss
like Alabama's twenty four to three defeat to Oklahoma on
their resume. Matter of fact, Bama finished for three losses,
but again they have a win over the SEC champ Georgia,
plus Missouri, LSU, and South Cairline. All those teams had
at least eight wins this season. See, I don't really

(03:05):
want to hear about bad losses because if you're gonna
tell me about bad losses, that means there's good losses.
And there's no such thing as a good loss. A
good loss is like a good kidney stone. But here's
the issue and where I think the committee is going
with this, and before I before I get to that,

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I want to just talk something and about this laughable
SEC hate that people are just dying to hate the
SEC just because and they're living in the past, they're
living on a reputation. And in case you missed it,
on current NFL rosters the SEC, there are four hundred
and thirty nine SEC players on current NFL rosters more

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than any other conference. And it's not close. Fourteen of
the last twenty national champions came from the SEC. By
the way, if you want to go back to ninety eight,
the SEC has not only been a conference that's routinely
won the national championship, They've had five different teams do it.
Tennessee did it, Ulics, you did it, Florida did it.

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Alabama and Auburn have all done it. Even conferences like
the Big Ten. Finally Michigan got through last year, but
only Ohio State Michigan. You get the picture early. You know,
let's not go down that road because we're going to
convoluted and the people who listen selective leader are going
to think I'm you know, some SEC hank and I'm not.
I try to keep it real here. A lot of

(04:29):
people make predictions and based on who they hope will win,
or what they think should happen, or what would best
serve their lives if it happened. There are objective truths
in our personal feelings when it comes to these five
minutes here, we're dealing with objective truths, all right. And
if the conference championship games mean nothing anymore. Well, that's

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as wrong as rain I'm opening day. There has to
be some semblance of importance to these games, if not
even for seeding. You know, obviously you know the BYU
or checked at the Boise State UNLV game in a
lot the winner was going to the playoffs, the loser
goes to a different bowl game. Same thing with Arizona

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State and Iowa State. And I guarantee you at Clemson
lost Saturday night, the committee was not going to take
a four loss team. So the games do matter, and
they also can set up buys, and they also can
set up you know, seeding and a home game or
all sorts of different things. So I don't really care
what ward Manuel said during last Tuesday's ranking show. I

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guess you know. For me, it's clear Alabama played a
solid schedule. Finishing nine to three is commendable. The road
loss to Vanderbilt's understandable. The Commodores are a much improved team.
I realized that twenty four to three to loss to Oklahoma,
it features Alabama's lowest Alabama's lowest point total since two
thousand and four, is a bad optic. There's a bad optic,

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and you know SMU was largely dominated Saturday night until
they came up with seventeen fourth quarter points, fought incredibly
hard late against a good, not great good Kennon three
Clemson team almost took it to overtime. Almost almost doesn't
mean much. So where the hell am I going with this?
Who's it going to be SMU or Alabama? Not what

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I think it should be, not who I'm predicting it
might be. I'm going to try to read the mind.
And it's against the law to practice psychology without a
license of the committee. And when I get up Sunday
morning and we are all in front of our TV,
I believe I believe the number twelve seed will be

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the SMU Mustangs. That's who I believe the committee will pick.
And here's what I think it's going to look like.
Your first round byes will be organ as your number
one seed, right on schedule. Thank you, Penn State. I
bet two and a half units on that game. We'll
have feather gun here in about ten minutes. There's no
value in a torn up ticket. I'm not going to
take a picture lap. You know how I felt about

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Penn State. James Franklin's only one in seventeen now against
top five teams. Goregon's the fastest team in the world.
Forget it's stupid, come on, stupid. I'm surprised they got
with an eight. Georgia will be the number two seed,
well deserve. We're going to talk about them a little later.
I'm not saying listen, this team's got the DNA, this defense,

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there's no question their defense is worthy of a national title.
I know they'll be questions about a shaky offense, but
when you know the fourth quarter, in the final five
minutes roll around and the situation demand's greatness, Kirby Smart
and his crew they're great, and they did with a
backup quarterback. So I think O're going to be one.
Georgia two, Boise State three, Arizona State fourth. All these
teams seem pretty straightforward. Remember, Boise State started the weekend

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five spots ahead of Arizona State, and then they beat
in UNLB by two touchdowns Friday night in the Mountain
West Conference title game. Meanwhile, Arizona State dominated Iowa State
in the Big twelve title game, and they were two
spots ahead of Clemson in Tuesday's rankings. Clemson did not
do enough to get a first round by and Boise
State will probably stay ahead of Arizona State because they

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started out to day ahead of Arizona State and they
won by fourteen in their conference championship game. So when
December twentieth rows around, you'll have I believe number twelve
SMU at eleven and two the at large team face
at number five Texas the at large team. I think
you have number eleven Clemson, the a SEC champion, traveled

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at Penn State as an at large team. The eleven
six matchup SMU Texas will be the twelve five matchup.
Indiana will be tenth. I know, Kurt Signetty's all pissed
off because you're gonna have to go to Notre Dame
and play the Notre Dame fighting Irish as the number
seven seed. They're both eleven and one. Just go there
and beat him, Kurt, I don't what the hell is
everybody talking about right front team got COVID. We're gonna

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shut up. Just play the games on the field. Jesus
number nine, Tennessee, they'll be the ten and two at large.
They're dangerous. They visit Ohio State number eight and tell
me every one of these games don't have just a
phenomenal storyline. Really, SMU, they can validate their selection by
beating Texas. Meanwhile, Texas is they haven't didn't meet the

(09:15):
top twenty five team all year, sam U's twelfth, here's
their chance. I thought, I thought Steve Sarkisan did an
outstanding job though Clemson Dabosweeney sticks in. Can can James
Franklin win a meaningful game? That's it? You know, Indiana,
you know they've suffered from this inferiority complex that everybody's

(09:36):
ripping them right and left. I think Doug Elif said
they should even be in the playoffs where they get
to play Notre Dame, which will be a phenomenal in
state game at Notre Dame. That'd be a hell of
a program builder to beat them, you know, wouldn't be
good for Notre Dame's coach, but they've had a good
year in the Ohio State Ryan Day. Can you imagine
if he's won and done. It's Tennessee teams for real.

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Things are going to be interesting, right and some of
these head to head results are going to bring storylines
along with it. So there you have it. It doesn't
matter what I think it doesn't matter theoretically who would
be who if they played. Do I think Alabama would
be at SMU on a neutral absolutely, but the fifths

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and butts for candy and nuts. You'll all have a
merry Christmas, which is what just seventeen eighteen days away now.
So that's my prediction that I predict the comedee. We'll
pick SMU for the reasons I just gave, and we
shall see what we shall see coming up. Get your
pens and pencils ready. You'll be drinking from a fire hose. Fez.

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Speaker 1 (11:37):
All right back at the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.
Just hours away from Week fourteen of the National Football League,
the resumption after that Baffo Thursday night game between Green
Bay and Detroit. And you know him, you love me
Candle without him. He joined this during football season, during

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this time slot every Saturday night. Yep, it's time the time,
It's the physick fly. These are the five things.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You need to hear about. No with the only back
Toup Back Hilton Super Contest winner Steve Zig Here's Bernie Fredo.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, fez, So, I know there are multiple NFL
teams on buy this week, but be that as it may,
there's actually several plays I like you'll get to. But
I think you wanted to have a quick recap analysis
of the conference champion college football games based on some
wagers place heading into today. So why don't you take

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it away?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Oh my goodness, MC clients are going to kill me.
Went onen four today, Bernie on college football plays, I
gave out and three and four I gave out early
in the weekend. You know, Closing line value CLV. We
talk about it all the time, and closing line value crashed.
And for me, I had Texas minus one twenty five.

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They could have gotten there, but they didn't. I had
SMU plus one. They closed minus three. They could have won,
but they didn't. And probably the one I regret the most.
But as we've discussed in pre production, I penn Stay
plus four and it closed three. And of course James

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Franklin can't win the big game. But you know, at
some point you get you beat the closing number game
after game, you're going to win. Where So they say,
I'm starting to question that at least this year.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I am, Well, there's a half seg so you want
to be a gambler. I would say this. I know
you're an NFL expert college I might have the edge
on you because I've been doing it so long, But
you just have a different situation than coms fence and
one side of the ball. You got better athletes no
matter who's playing, and maybe I got good closing line value.

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I actually got some freeze yesterday Organs legs three if
I had two and a half units time. So there's
marble fade on James Franklin. I mean, it's just death
taxes and James Franklin. Well, we'll just leave it there.
Any final thoughts about the upcoming twelve team playoff and
who you might like?

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Oh, you know, and it's so freaking frustrating because of
course I like Oregon Minas three also, but I can't
go back to my clients and tell them late three
when I told them to take four man, that's a
very profitable middle and heck, the wrong game landed three
because Smooth wound up landing three. Thoughts. I think there's a.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Debate that's who was a favorite, so that doesn't count.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Should should SMU be in? SMU opened up a minus
one thousand favorite to be in. They're down to only
like a minus three fifty. This is the DraftKings. I
think this is a ludicrous because SMU played well today,
So you've got an eleven and one team versus a
nine and three Alabama team, And you really can't doc
SMU that much for losing basically playing almost on the

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road against Clemson and they very close game. It would
be a travesty. The best example I can give, let's
assume Bernie I'm in. I'm they made me king, and
I'm in charge of putting teams in, and I put
in Alabama over SMU. I would never get another job
in this country. I'd be just ridiculed for completely incompetent
guys stupid. And yet somehow we're still worried. The odds

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are saying there's a viable chance that they're going to
sell out and put Alabama in.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, that's well stated. I don't know if you've heard
my opening. It's difficult to get in the mind of
the committee, but I'm fairly certain they will put SMU in.
Would Alabama beat SMU, Yes, they would. Would SMU beat Georgia, Missouri, LSU,
or South Carolina all those teams at eight wins, No,
I don't think they would. Bama did that, and Bama

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num Ley did that. Georgia and South Carolina'd be cleansing
the team. SMU lost to tonight, but SMU got to
the conference championship game, and they're going to stay true
to their model and this and this is just it's
made for TV event. They do the best they can,
we're all gonna be watching. I just think Alabama is
gonna be left out here? Would I leave them out?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
They're the better team. You'd agree they're the better team, right, Faz.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yes, But if we're going to take the twelve best teams,
we just called Brad Powers and say just send me
your power ratings, it's the teams that have the twelve
best seasons that those are the teams that should make
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
No, And that's essentially what they're doing. And it begins
with championship based performance. So if you're the Big ten
champ or the SEC champ, or the Big twelve or
the Mountain West of the ACC, you're getting in. And
three of those five who got to the championship game
and yet lost like a Texas, like a Penn State,

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et cetera, they're getting in as well. All right, let's
move on to the NFL, FAZ, because there's actually some
games that I really like this week, and I want
to get your thoughts and then we'll get your best bets.
I want to start with Jaguars Titans. The Titans are
a team that can't find there. Took us with both hands.
They're laying four points, They're owing five at home this

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year against the number. As a dog every time one
in seven is their last eight games. You dress them
up as a favorite. And I'm not a Max Jones hater.
I grab Jacksonville And for your thoughts on this game, yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Down to three point twenty five. The market absolutely agrees
with you. My power ratings actually would lean to Tennessee.
But my power ratings are wrong because they're not incorporating enough.
How Will Levis does not take care of the ball.
And the special teams are so bad to the Titans.
This team gives up so many defensive special teams touchdowns
and Jaguars are still playing hard. I got nothing on

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this game.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I passed so Panthers, Eagles. I'm seeing four teams out there.
Are we in agreement? There are four teams you can
grab now.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
There were not anymore, but there will be tomorrow. It's
painted thirteen and a half. But if you just be
cool and you wait it out, you'll get fourteen.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I know, well I got it earlier today, and I
know we're going to be on the opposite sides of this, fez,
but hear me out. You know I feel about double
digit lines. And let's not forget the Eagles are zero
and five against the spread in their last five games
as a double digit favorite. All of a sudden, here
come to town, the plucky Carolina Panthers and Cuba Hubbard,
Bryce Young who's finding new life. They've covered four in

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a row. And who do the Eagles play next week?
They play in state rival Pittsburgh. So I grab the
fourteen for multiple reasons. We'll see what happens. The Eagles
have been a double digit favorite twice this year, didn't
cover either time. I know you're on the opposite side.
To go ahead and make your case.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Well, I played the Eagles first half. This is available.
Draftings miss seven minus one twenty because a team that's
laying fourteen should not be laying seven on the first half.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
That's just lay later and right now, yeah be later,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
At least eight exactly. So that's just it's just not
being priced correctly. There have been enough fourteen point favorites
this year for the makers get it right. So I
just if you're about the Eagles, I would play it
that way. I can't imagine that Hurts is going to
be running in the fourth quarter if the Eagles are
up twelve, by example, So I mean, when am I

(19:12):
ever going to disagree with taking plus fourteen? But the
ability bet I made on the game with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
First half, Oh okay, I'm okay, very good. For some reason,
I thought you you had liked the Eagles minus twelve
and a half on the sand off line, But I
stand corrected. Anyway, I like those two plays. Let's talk
about the Falcons and Vikings. Kirk Cousins and the Falcons
will never get any of my money. However, there's an

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interesting factoid here, Fez. When Cousins loses two games in
a row, he's six to zero against the number in
their third game, and I believe they're catching what five
and a half Atlanta? What's the number in Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah, it's up to six. You know. It is interesting
because I'll argue that, well, Kirk Cousins doesn't play in
the NFL anymore. There's this impost that can't throw the
ball any further than I can, and I'm a sixty
one year old former chess master, so great candidate master.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sorry, so.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
You've got a revenge game. Normally expect the quarterback with
the revenge coming back to his old stomping grounds is
going to have a big game. But I mean literally,
he can't throw the ball, so I can only look
towards Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
H I'm not going to be involved in that game whatsoever. Now,
if you played Boris Spasky, what would be the line?
Would you be? Like minus one sixty?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You know, I'm glad you brought this up because famously,
I'm the guy that lost to on the Purdue money
line Bobby Fisher. But Bobby Fisher could play me one
million times and he would beat me one million times
when there's that much of a disparity between chess players.
Just like I could play like like like a random
you know, person that just doesn't that's never studied, and

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I would literally win every single game because there's just
no luck in.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Chess, right right, Well, you got to be you got
to protect that queen says, you got to protect queen
the king. The king well, ultimately, but once you lose
your how many how many chess matches. Do you win
when you lose your queen first zero against the good thing?
Thank you, thank you very much. Good night, folks. You
be a great audience, all right, fez on, we do

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it all here on the show. Right. The Dolphins, we
know they're bump slayers fourteen and four against the number
and their last eight team at home when they are
favored by six, are more they're favored against. They're favored
by six against the Jets. I feel like the Jets
have mailed it in. No breeze Hall, no sauce, gardener,

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Fez need I say more. It feels like this is
a twenty eight to thirteen game in the waiting your thoughts, I.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Think it's going to be a twenty four to twenty game,
and I actually look to the Jets. Let me make
my case.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Go ahead, yes, sir, and.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
You're spot on. Miami's just covered against two bad teams,
laying seven, all right, So they covered, and they played
very well against New England and against the Raiders. But
the Jets are better than those two teams, and those
two teams were catching seven. And before you say no,
the Jets aren't better their garbage. If you wanted to
bet against the Jets. You had so many opportunities this year,

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including but not limited to Jets. At Pittsburgh, Jets were
minus three, Bernie. I know it doesn't seem possible, but
Pittsburgh's better than Miami. So this is how much the
Jets have been downgraded. The Jets were playing three in
Pittsburgh and now they're catching six at Miami. So the
market has thrown them into the dumpster fire can and

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I'm going to buy low on those horrible New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh boy, that's an interesting one. You got me on
that one says, Just for the record, you know, Mike
McDaniel likes to be a bumps layer. Last year, the
Dolphins played the Jets twice and they beat them by
a total of sixty four to thirteen cumulutes lead in
both games. You made it right, We'll see, We'll see,

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all right. Another game that's got my attention. It's not
often that I like to lay seven, and I haven't
done it yet, but the Browns are one and twenty
straight up and six and fifteen against the number in
their last twenty one games in Pittsburgh, and I don't
want to hear about Jamis. He's two and three at
a start. They act like he's a second coming of

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Giohnny Unitedson and five. This guy is a pick machine.
Him and Max Staff are pick six machine. As you know.
If I had a nickel for every time Jamis threw
a pick six, Elon Musk could be more in mylong
Can you make a case for the Browns here?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, Jamis Winston is leading the NFL this year in
snow angels after a win. So unfortunately he made those
snow angels in Cleveland Stadium after beating these said Pittsburgh
Steelers on national TV. So they're going to be angry,
and Pittsburgh owns Cleveland, like you said, eight, there's my
six and a half's again. I go back to the
Hall of Fame. Bookmakers at Southpoint have it mina six

(23:56):
and alf So go lay the six ap with Pittsburgh
with a revenge. That's not too That loss was not
excellent point long ago. So Pittsburgh wins going away.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yes, all right, an.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Under the radar game. Though that's going to be dangerous,
it might end up being good for the books. I
have a funny feeling the New York Giants sneak up
on New Orleans Sunday. Your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know this is weird because I agree as well, neighbors.
I don't know if he's going to play, you know,
the rookie wide receiver. Yeah, and he's really important. But
who are the Saints, especially without Taysom Hill, to be
laying five and a half big? So yeah, I mean,
the Saints are just the Saints are really bad. The

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Giants are horrible, and the Giants are home. I mean,
it wouldn't shock it wouldn't shock me at all. The
Giants win the game at all. So Giants plus five
and a half the only way I could go.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm not betting, well, not for nothing. The Saints are
giving up like five yards for five yards per carry
on the ground, so you can run on this team.
Just just just saying, uh, Tampa Bay and the Raiders.
The Raiders have been Plucky's a dog. You get to
the end of the year. They're still playing hard for
Antonio Pierce. Not very good, but they're they're they're playing

(25:12):
hard and Tampa Bay is very banged up. So you
got a nice cozy seven point number there. I've made
a half point half a unit play on the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I agree, and you can get plus seven.
It's not easy to find, but I think it'll be easy,
you know, tomorrow. And I know people don't like it
when I say this, but this is this is the
way it is. You want to win sports betting, you
need to get plus seven mins one ten. You can't
play plus seven miles one twenty, so you got to
have enough outs and just I'm sure it'll pop up tomorrow.

(25:43):
Like right now when I look on the screen, one
book has it and the Raiders are playing hard and
brock Bowers should have a big day against the Tampa
Bay Bucks defense that is nothing special at all. I
can see the Raiders putting up twenty three points on
Tampa and losing like twenty seven twenty three, or they
could lose twenty seven to twenty. So you got to

(26:04):
be sure to get the plus seven and not pay
extra big to get it.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
And think about what you just said there. If you
can see the Raiders putting up twenty three points, your
team total is nineteen and a half. Maybe you look
at a team total over for the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
No excellent. I like that as well. I'll certainly endorse that.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm just throwing that out there. I can't take credit
for firing on it. I don't know if it's going
to hit or not. But I like the way you
said that. And the Raiders aren't playing hard, They're giving
an effort, and can they score twenty points? I'm sure
somebody's gonna fire on that play, all right. A game
that's caught my eye of the Arizona Cardinals laying a
field goal against the Seahawks. I always like teams who
can run the ball versus teams who can't run the ball.

(26:41):
The Seahawks cannot run the ball. They're twenty eighth in
the league. The Cardinals are fifth in the league. Home
game lightline. I've liked this Arizona team and Jonathan Gannon
all year long. You have this Arizona not cover this game.
I'm baffled if they don't cover this game.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
This is the only game I really like. I'm on
Arizona and I understand the line. I understand why Arizona's
only mis two and a half because power rating wise,
I make the game two and a half, but everything
benefits Arizona one. I'm not sure I have them as
a better team at home, and I'm laying less than
a field go. It's mis two and a half right now,
mice one ten at south point minus two and at

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minus one fifteen at book Maker. Secondly, they've got recent revenge.
They just went to the Pacific Northwest evenly played game.
Murray threw a seventy yard pick six, so Seattle one
by ten. Stats were equal. And Arizona went to Minnesota
and they played them equal. In fact, they actually should
have won the game, and then they gave up. They

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got outscored thirteen to three at the end of the game,
somehow lost by one point. So Arizona zone in two
and playing just fine. If you look at their first
ten games, for an they went six and four against
the juggernaut of Buffalo's Detroit screen Bays Miami with two.
I mean, it's just it's unbelievable that they could be
six and four playing nothing but conten or teams in

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middling teams like Rams or Bears. So Arizona's undervalued, the
defense undervalue. They face so many good quarterbacks. They're going
to wax Seattle here.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I really like Eric, I think so too. All right,
a game, I'm really conflicted on because it feels like
a mismagic excuse me Buffalo laying three and a half
at the Rams. Now, A couple things to note here, Fez,
Buffalo's got Detroit on deck next week. In Detroit, They're

(28:31):
going to want to win both of these games because
they have designs on getting that home by Only one
team in each league gets to buy this year in
the playoffs, and they have the tiebreaker against Kansas City,
so they can't falter here. I know some people are
calling in a look ahead game and all that. I
don't know how they look into guys' minds in the NFL,
But here's the point. It's a little scary to lay

(28:52):
the three and a half on the road, even though
Buffalo is the far better team, So it's a stay
away from me. One final thing, Fez, the Bills are
own six against the spread in the first of consecutive
road games the last six times they've played back to
back road games.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Your thoughts, Yeah, you know, in six means they're one
and six. I don't really pay much attention to short
term trends like that. I don't like a team from
Buffalo that just had two feet of snow dropped on
them going out to La La Land and laying points.
I think that's that is a bad spot. We've used
to see New England, remember when they'd always go to
Miami with those great Hyman Sure, well then just hey,

(29:30):
it's sunshine, you know, and it's beautiful, and it's like
like it's a distraction. So I don't like that. But
having said that about the Rams, I don't want the
Rams plus three and a half against a really good
Bills team when if I fast forward to Thursday, you know,
the Rams are playing Thursday and they're playing the Niners,
and they're catching plus three lay one twenty at DraftKings.
The Niners aren't even in the same area code as

(29:54):
the Bills in terms of I got those teams separated
by like six and a half points in my power ratings.
So and you're going to spreads the same. So if
you want to beat and are almost the same. So
if you want to back the Rams, invest in the Rams.
Do it next week when they're playing a Niner team
that's completely decimated.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
All right, So no more Matt Eberflus after that Thanksgiving Turkey.
See what I did there. Their offensive coordinator Thomas Brown
takes over. They had to San Francisco again. I know
the Niners are a shell of what they have been,
but you've got a nice little cozy three and a
half point number here. I am not involved in the game,

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but I could honestly only look to the Niners your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
And it's down to three. I watch three point twenty five,
but you can get minus three, Bernie. And if you
like the Bears and I people listen. I don't want
they don't want this. They do not want me to
say this, but I'm going to say it because you
know what I can tell you. Go talk to one
hundred people that manage sports betting investment teams like I've
done in the past, and every all of them will

(30:58):
agree with what I'm saying. And yet Barney and the
Bars and everyone will disagree. They want to hear what's
the right side? What's the right side? So here it is,
And don't scream at me, because this is the truth,
all right. You can't handle the truths. But you want
me on that wall.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Jack the Bears.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, the Bears plus four was the right side, and
then at the Niners, minus three is the right side.
And if you bet both of them. At minus one ten,
you have a very profitable middle. The Bears fire the coach,
but they've had ten days, and the Bears are healthy
and the Niners are very injured. But the Bears stink

(31:33):
and the Niners are average. So once that line hits
three and the Niners are home, there, I mean, no
one would debate the Bears are better than the Niners.
Think about this, and the Niners are home and the
lines down to three, now is the time you should
have laid the three with the Niners.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Well, you know, the Niners are banged up, but they
still have a few good men. Faz, there you go,
Thank you, folks. All right, two more Kansas City hosts
the Chargers Sunday Night. All they do is win, win, win.
They're eleven and one. I don't make fun of teams.
There are eleven in one. A little later in the show,
I'm going to talk about I'm going to dissect the Chiefs.

(32:09):
I know, everybody, it's an oxymoron to say they're an
unimpressive eleven and one team. You can say that, but
they know how to win their back to back Super
Bowl champs. Nonetheless, I think you get max s effort
out of the Chargers here, and I feel like this
is another one score game, a light number. I'd be
more inclined to lay the four than grab it. But
it's a dicey game. Your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm on the Chargers. The market disagrees with me. My
handicap is that I know Kansasity is eleven and one,
and I get it. In the Carolina game, they were
never threatened to lose the game, and as soon as
the game got tied, okay, God took over a quarterback
and marched them right down and scored. But there are
games they have won that the Chiefs didn't win their

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opponents have lost. Similar to a basketball team where basketball
team's up one and their punts on the free throw
line and they break both free throws. That's happened in
multi sliple games, specifically Denver thirty five yard field goal.
Denver botches it and they get it blocked. Okay, the
Raiders are in position to kick a game winning field goal,
they botch it, get a penalty, and they don't wind

(33:13):
up winning. It's not that Kansas City did anything to
win those games necessarily, Okay, they blocked.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
The field goal.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Give me a break, they're like ninety percent to lose
at that point. So because of that, the underlying stats
in this team are for the Chiefs, they're a five
hundred team. They're gaining five point three yards per playing,
they're given up five point four. My experience in the
history of the NFL, the only team that succeeded with
subpar stats with the Patriots because they did so many

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other things right. And I don't think Kansas City does
all these other things right like Belichick and the Patriots did,
so I have to say the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So the Chiefs are one to thirteen teams or check that,
twenty three teams in NFL history that started at eleven
and one, but they have the lowest point differential plus
fifty four. That doesn't really bother me. This is what
will keep me off the Chargers. The Chargers have played
three playoff teams this you're Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Kansas City.
They're all in three. They've been outscored by a combined

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sixty seven and forty three, giving up an after three
hundred and sixty yards per game. So the Chargers are
a lot like Miami. They're bump slayers, but when they
step up in class. They're not the same team. Finally, Cincinnati, nowez,
I've always had a rule of thumb. When you get
past November and you have a team that's under five
hundred going on the road and they're laying points, no,

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I'm not doing it. I'm not going to have a
team that's under five hundred lane points on the road.
Dallas hasn't really quit. They're not very good. The five
and a half folks are little juicy? Is that way?
You see the number right now, Dallas catching five and
a half money.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Night, exactly five and a half. I think we might
get six eight if we wait. But I'm with you now,
I'm gonna use the rule of two to explain why
the Cowboys are the right investment. Let's move this spread
two points in each direction. Since he was laying minus
three at Dallas, I don't think Bernie we blink is yeah, okay,
it seems it seems about right.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
But they're under five hundred. Go ahead fast.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
But they're the better team. They are the better team,
and they have the much better ratifications. We can make
the Bengals a favorite. But but if we move the
two points in the other direction, and we made the
Bengals a seven and a half point favorite, we'd be.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Like, what the f is this?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
This is ridiculous. The Bengals have no defense. I'm not
even sure the Bengals, like you said, are better than
the Cowboys. And the game is in Texas? Are you
kidding me?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
If plus seven and a half is a ludicrous number,
by definition, plus five and a half has to be
an attractive number. Also, we should bet Dallas.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Enjoy your day. We'll talk to you next week. And
happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Okay, if you bet the college football and loss, just
just let me know. Come to Vegas. I'll buy your dinner.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Okay, Oh there's some all right, Nick Jensen dropping f bombs,
So come on, buddy. You keep your kids with that mouths,
keep it to yourself. Love you, take care of pal.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Thank you, Berdie.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Coming up, final thoughts on the college football Saturday, which
was really quite a day, even even if you're just
a fan and you don't bet. I'm Bernie Frattle. We
are coming to you live from the Las Vegas Fox
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(36:20):
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A couple final thoughts following Saturday's conference championship slate Arizona State,
massive props, massive respect. They were one hundred and one

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beginning of the year to emerge his conference champions For context,
he had the same odds as a New Orland Saints
to win the Super Bowl. Camp scadow Bow the first
Big twelve player in history to ever have fifteen hundred
rushing yards five hundred receiving yards in the same season.
Here's the beauty man. Cinderella usually doesn't make an appearance
in the college football playoffs, maybe in the baseball basketball

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playoffs March Madness, But the first year of this expanded
college football playoff, man, you get the Arizona State Sun Devils,
the plucky underdog, very much worth rooting for. I was
on I had Jared Smith onlist, and I told him
I thought that Arizona I felt like they win both
lines of the scrimmage. And they did, and they forty
five nineteen. They thrashed Iowa State. They lock up a

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berth in the Big twelve playoff field. I think they're leaving.
I think they'll jump Boise State. No, no, I don't.
They won't jump Bois State. They were five spots behind
and Boise State won by fourteen, so you can't do that.
But they're going to get a bye, all right. Give
it up to Kenny Dillingham. They were picked to finish
last in their league with the media. And this team
is for real, man. And when you got at Camp

(37:44):
scattable zero star recruit. His two scholarship offers were from
Sacramento State and William and Mary. All Right, they're going
to enter the playoffs in a six game winning streak
and they are for real. They will be a very
tough out. Meanwhile, I got some thoughts about Texas and
the resume they had, you know, some long stretches Saturday
that suggested they should have beaten Georgia. They won the

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stats totaled by about one hundred and twenty yards, threw
the ball all over the lot, but eleven penalties for
ninety four yards. Two errant fieldgal attempts the usually reliable
Bert Auburn two picks by quinn Ewers that kept things
close enough for Georgia to close it out in overtime.
This eventual loss by Texas is going to have to

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call some serious attention to their college Football Playoff resume.
I know they're in, but if you look at their resume,
they're their ranks second. There are no danger missing out.
They are in, but it's fair to ask whether they
deserve a first round by the long Runs have zero
wins over top twenty five opponents. They have two losses
to Georgia, who comfortably won by fifteen points on the

(38:50):
road in Austin and beat them a second time. Beat
Texas a second time with a backup quarterback. Frankly, if
you put Texas resume next to Semus on paper, looks similar,
but again, I think the SEC is a much different gauntlet.
They cannibalize each other. There you have it. I love

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Oregon for making me look smart. I knew they would
pummel Penn State. That game was never in doubt. There's
a reason Oregon went out and got Dylan Gabriel in
the transfer portal and he torched Penn State for two
to eighty four touchdowns. Yeah, you can call it forty
five thirty seven. Penn State was never going to win
that game, but they did win respect. They did ruin respect,

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they did play hard. But again, you know my model,
there's no such thing as a good loss. That's like
a good kidney stone. Speaking of good losses, how about
those lovable acres coming out? Mark Madina Medina Magic. We
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It's that time of the week, twelve midnight Pacific time
on Saturday night, heading into Sunday. We dive into the
NBA because there's so much news there, always is, real simple,
It's that time. Mark Medina Medina Magic, our Fox Sports
Radio NBA guru and this particular conversation tonight should be

(40:36):
an interesting one because I think Mark, we have to
really start to dissect this entity called the Los Angeles Lakers,
and I have several angles from which I will approach this,
but I want to start by their recent patch, losing
six in a row. I facetiously said before the season
would surprise me if they didn't make the playoffs. Now

(40:58):
I give that maybe a ten percent chance, but I'll
stick to the fact I think they're playing team at best.
Can you really base can you really blame their recent
bad patch because they don't have Austin Reeves on the floor,
Jackson Hayes or Jared Vanderbilt your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, you don't discount it, But there's so many other reasons.
I think when you look at the big picture, Jared
Vanderbilt being out the entire season has been a challenge
because Anthony Davis has been really their only front core
player and they're only good defender, and that correlates with
them being one of the worst defensive teams in the league.
But to your point, there's so many other things that

(41:37):
have contribute to this. The roster continuity hasn't really been
a thing. What it's been is that you're seeing a
collection of average players that sometimes have good nights but
can often have bad nights. You're seeing Lebron James face
father times on forgiving touch even more. He's still playing
a high level, but his three point range has have

(42:00):
a lot to be desired. Before the game against Atlanta,
I think he should shot a combined forty of thirty
one from the field in the previous I think eight games.
And then the other thing is that, you know, I'm
not going to pin this necessarily on JJ Reddick, but
the effectiveness that he had at the beginning of the

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season hasn't been as strong as it was since then.
And so with that, you know, I think JJ is
going to have to find a way to keep the
team engaged because he knows his stuff, but riding the
highs and lows of every NBA game, at some point
it's going to have long diminishing returns, and I think

(42:41):
we saw that. And I think the last thing that
we I should discuss is that when you're really breaking down,
they're seven of last nine losses, it's been across the
board like four to the seven or by at least
twenty points. But then there are also some games against
Orlando and Atlanta specific or just came down to late

(43:02):
execution flub and you would think that would not be
a thing with the team that has Lebron. James Anthony
Davis had some roster cotton Odor so uh.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
He checked a lot of boxes there. I hold the
I'm going to come back to JJ Redick in a minute,
but I want to focus on Lebron. Look, he had
a six game stretch where he was, you know, averaging
less than five free throws forer game. He's not getting
the rim. Five percent of his shots are at the rim.
What did he miss seventeen threes in a row? Was
that the number something? So he can't really shoot threes anymore. Moreover,

(43:39):
I don't particularly like his body language, and can you
speak to that. I know it's against a lot of
practice psychology without a license, but look, you know last
year they went all in Champagne on the tournament. This
year they lose the end season tournament. He's a you know,
this guy is in suff you know, during the COVID,

(44:01):
I'm not gonna play a game not in front of
the fans. Of course, he did it right. Whoever came
up with the playing tournament should be fired the guy.
It's just insufferable. But I got to tell you without him,
and by the way, I'm all over the place, he remark.
But it's true that with Lebron off the floor, they
actually have a better plus minus. Is that true?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I need to look at the numbers here, but I
think it's safe to say that they're a better team.
Obviously when Lebron James was there. It's going to start
and end with how healthy and effective he plays. But yeah,
his three point shot has to get better. The body
language has to get better. I think when you're looking
at that Atlantic loss in particular, where you know he

(44:44):
had thirty nine points, but his shot selection left a
lot to be desired. He had some deep threes, including
the final ones that you're saying, Okay, there should have
been a better shot. But I will say, in fairness
to Lebron, not that he's got to play better. But
this whole idea with the Lakers was that they were

(45:06):
going to lean on roster Connuity Anthony Davis, so that
wasn't a Lebron James, and I think the one thing
that we have to keep in mind is he's going
to be forty December thirtieth, and he's already exceeded expectations.
He's still playing a high level. But any of this
idea from the Lakers or fans off only Lebron James

(45:30):
gets right, you know, things will be solved. They can't
operate that way because even if Lebron's doing all the
right things and maybe fixes some things here or there,
his body's going to wear out. And so I think
that they have to prepare and make roster decisions as
if this is going to be the sign of more
things to come with Lebron not playing out his best

(45:52):
And so what that means is Anthony Davis has to
take his game to an even higher level. And if
clearly the roster hasn't been consistent of healthy or not,
they got to make moves before the trade deadline to
put themselves in a better position to at least make
the playoffs. So yeah, that's a lot of stuff to

(46:13):
unpack because there's not a lot of easy solutions on
how they execute those.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
All due respect to Lebrown, I will never let his
age be an excuse. If he can't play anymore, stop playing,
all right. I know he's going to rue the day
because he's going to miss the spotlight a lot more
than the spotlight misses him. But I saw Kareem Abdul
Jabbar win a championship at forty I saw Kareem Abdul
Jabbar win a championship at forty one, and I saw
him get to the NBA finals in forty two. And

(46:39):
he was more spry at forty two than he wasn't
thirty two. He wasn't a punchline in a movie anymore,
so I will not allow him to use age. But
I want to go back to JJ Reddick.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Well, can I interject on that though?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I mean sure, of course.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Look when you look at Kareem, he was able to
do a lessons more approach because but he's better off
around him.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Okay, fair enough, But Lebron says he's the greatest of
all time, no excuses. He had a different role. I
get it. He had an aging Magic Johnson, he had
James Worthy, Bryant Byron Scott. I get all that. I
get all that. But he filled a very capable role
and was very critical, especially in crunch time, in winning
those championships in eighty seven and eighty eight. So you know,

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Magic pulled a hamstring and Byron Scott got hurt before
the eighty nine playoffs, where the Lakers might have repeated.
But it is what it is. I'm just saying, we're
going to keep hearing Lebron's age, Lebronze age. I get it.
I just don't want to. I just don't want to
give him a hall pass on right.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
And here's where I fall on Lebron. When you look
at his time with the Lakers tenure, you look at
how you praise and criticize him in three facets, player
GM or attempt at GM, and a social media leader behavior.
I think that I think the social media leader behavior
and the attempts to exert roster influence those have all

(48:02):
been fair game. And there's been times where he's crossed
the line. Times the Lakers have enforced boundaries. But when
it comes to how he's played, I don't think that
he deserves a lot of scrutiny on that. I mean, look, yeah,
he's not playing at as high of a level as
he could this season. But what I'm getting at is
the scrutiny about Lebron mostly has less to do with

(48:26):
what he's doing on the floor than everything else off
on it. And that's my point, is that the fact
that he's had to play at such a high level
is indirectly an indictment that the rest of the Lakers
roster isn't good enough for him to take a back suit.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well, look, he did have thirty nine points Friday night.
I know he's capable of stuffing more stats and blaming
everybody else. I like sparring with you, Mark. We have
fun with this, okay, So I mean what it's all about.
We're not solving the world's problems, know an, you know
some of them fair enough. Yeah, I'll talk it. I'll

(49:04):
take it all right. I want to flip to JJ Redick.
I really like JJ Reddick, But I want to go
back to a line I've overused, the elegant Chuck Daily.
Daddy Rich one of the when I grow up, I
want to be Chuck Daily. He told me, I told you,
you know, coaching an NBA team is like managing an
adult daycare center. He didn't say that in the pejorative.
It's just that they're growing men with families that make

(49:26):
millions of dollars, and how you manage their egos and
create the conditions where they want to play hard for
you and not talk about you is difficult. I'm not
quite sure if JJ Reddick really has that gear basketball
like you. Through the charts, he checks every box, but
there's a certain temperament. And I got to say, here's
part B of the question. I know I'm going to

(49:48):
bring down the house on this one. People don't think
I know what I'm talking about. I'm not one hundred
percent sure all things considered, if he's truly an upgrade
over Darvinham, well.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
It's an all fair game. But we let's break this
down to two parts. I think the short term, I
would say JJ Reddick is an upgrade over Darwnham, even
though the records are identical. We have to keep in
mind back to the Lebron conversation, is Lebron up until
this point last season was playing at a better level
because he's a year younger, and for all the roster imperfections,

(50:22):
they at least had Jared Vanderbilt available, you know, at
different points last season. And I think when you look
at that, JJ has had a more innovative offensive mind,
He's had better relationship capital with the players, He's you know,
made better in game adjustments as far as you know,

(50:43):
play calling, et cetera. But to the big picture, I
do see some of the the early honeymoon and excitement
and adrenaline rush of a new head coach fading. And
one thing that leaves me concerned for how he is
is that the highs and lows that he has that

(51:06):
swings every game, that's going to make him less of
effective as a coach as more time goes on. I
think in the first month of the season, it was
kind of seen as, oh, this is great. He cares
and there's a total buy in, and he's invested in
a job, and he's making this all these commitment and sacrifices,

(51:26):
and he's in it with the players. But it's an
eighty two game season. At some point you're going to
wear everyone out, including yourself, if your emotions are that high.
And he is the first to admit it before the season,
when I asked him, you know what he foresees the
biggest challenges, he said, managing the lows, and he's got
to do whatever he can to you know, be more

(51:49):
even keel about things, or else he's going to lose
all his hair, or at least it all turned gray
by the time April hoods.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
So Sunday night, the Lakers host the Portland Trailblazer. I
believe they're nine and a half point favorite. Will you
be at that game?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Surprisingly, I won't. I made the going to go to
the Clippers Rockets game because we see the Rockets are
second to West right now. They're a team to be
reckoned with very much.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
So they're a nice club. I just brought that up
as a throwaway question. I would expect the Lakers to
write the ship Sunday night and get a w go
to thirteen and eleven. But what message does that? You know,
what image does that send? If the Lakers lose a
home to the Trailblazer Sunday night, well.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
That would be terrible because the Blazers are one of
the worst teams in the league. Right I don't think
Scoot Henderson is playing. I know that there's obviously questions
on whether Austin Reeves will come back, But to your
earlier point, at least for Portland, his availability cannot depend
a hinge on whether they beat the Blazers. They're thirteenth

(52:52):
in the Western Conference, they've lost three in a row. Yeah,
the Lakers should win this now. If they win against Portland,
as isn't suddenly I okay, now they've righted the ship.
It's more of they just bought some time to hit
the pause button. So, yeah, they lose to Portland, there's
gonna be even more questions to unpack that, you know,

(53:12):
as if we haven't already unpacked all of them.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You'll get to see a great game, I think Sonday night.
The Rockets are are pretty good. They're fifteen and eighty.
They're over five hundred on the road. The Clippers are
fourteen to ten. The Rockets are a short favorite. Your
thoughts Do you had some dealings with Houston lately? Didn't
you want to share?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah? I was able to connect with him on Aman
Thompson earlier today at practice. Look, he's become one of
the best defenders in the NBA. He has just so versatile.
He can offend good perimeter players, front core players. He's
incredibly fast, and you know, I thought it was cool
to talking to him that he said that he considers

(53:52):
himself one of the best best defenders in the league.
And it wasn't just young man confidence. He is a
guy that watch his film to look at you know,
all these player tendencies like how they move their head.
You know, are they a player that tries to foul
be you know, how do they you know, try to

(54:14):
use their dribble, et cetera. And so when you're looking
at the Houston Rockets and they're, you know, stay in
the Western Conference, it's technically fourth, but they were second
before tonight's game, it's you know, only a game difference. Uh.
They have a really good combination of good young players
and veteran players like a Fred van Vliet and Imaduka.

(54:36):
I mean, he turned things around and with the Celtics
before his own personal situation forced him out of there.
But from you know, basketball standpoint, he is a really
good head coach. And so while I would put the
Oklahoma City Thunder as the team that will get to
the finals, I think the Rockets are a team that
could challenge them at least in the Western Conference finals,

(54:58):
or at least be a team that's the out in
the second round.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Well, i'ment. Thompson caught my eye as well. He's young,
he's only twenty one, but he's highly productive. He's active.
I don't he didn't play in college where he comes from.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
He played overtime elite in the in the G League.
Uh okay, So yeah, that that program he.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Was like the fourth pick over the year before last, right.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that program is is no more.
But you know he turned a lot aheads that over time,
e leite for all the same reasons. And yeah, he's
just been a spunk. I mean he is a guy
that lives in the gym. You know, practice ended, you know,
Sunday late morning, uh here at u c l A
in LA and he was the last one out of

(55:42):
the gym just trying to get a lot of shots up,
both with the three point shots as well finishing at
the room getting free throwers. I mean, he seemed like
he's a real student of the game. And you know,
even though he's confident saying, hey, he considers himself one
of the best players there is. I think a humbleness
to him as well as far as just how seriously
he takes his craft.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I think you got this Rockets team pegged. They got
a nice plan to I've always liked Steven Adams. You
got veteran guys, you got Dylan Brooks. I don't know
a lot about the roster. Fred van Vliet I think
he's on.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
The team, followed Albert Sengoon. I mean, don't look now,
but people aren't comparing him to the next nikolejokicch And
it's not just though, yeah European big man, but he
has a lot of good fundamentals and he grew a lot.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
He's he's a six to eleven guy who's a walking
double double. That says right there, fair Yeah, well, I
mean again, these guys, these guys are productive.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
They and think about the Spurnie a few years ago
when they were, you know, in the lottery. The imo
on them is they have a bunch of talented young
guys that are just trying to get their numbers and
things that completely changed. And some of those players are
still on the team. I mean Jalen Green most notably
was seen as a very young guy that's talented, but

(56:56):
does he early contribute to winning basketball? Well, this season
he is season he was, and I think it helps
that a you know, there's been more and more time
for these young players have developed, but they have an
infusion of good veteran players like a Fred van Vliet
who came from Toronto. He won a championship there. Yeah, yeah,
Steven Adams, great screen center. He doesn't play a lot,

(57:18):
but he's a good you know, locker room presence, good
practice guy. Dylan Brooks, I know you and I have discussed,
you know, some of his antics, especially with Lebron. Yeah,
but he is a good player. And so you mixed
all that veteran talent with really good young talent. That's
what contributes to winning basketball million percent.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
A couple other quick things. It looks like Steve Kerr
in Golden State is moving some chess pieces around him now.
Draymond Green will be coming off the bench. In the past,
he's actually handled that role pretty well. What are your
thoughts on that? Why did he make that move?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Well, he made the move because it was Jonathan Kaminga started.
And you know, the Warriors calculus is that Jonathan Kaminge
has got to have even more investment because he's the future.
You know, the last few years they've been really intrigued
with how he is as a defender, you know, as
a front court player. His athleticism is off the charts.

(58:14):
There are all have been growing pains with decision making
and a shot, but he's been growing every season and
so that was the calculus that they got to further
lean into that so he can develop. I think the
other part is that, you know, Steve Kurt ran it
by Draymond, but I think he also came up with
this decision thinking that Draymond would be on board with it,
because you know, we can we can criticize Draymond all

(58:37):
we want, and it's very fair game as far as
the technicals and the ejections and where's the line that
he should draw so that he can still be a
very energtic defender. But one thing I'll give Draymond credit
for is that he is a team guy and so
he you know, he's he was on record after the
game against Minnesota on Fridays, and he is totally on

(58:59):
board with it. He cares about winning. He admitted earlier
in his career he won't have had the same attitude,
but he's very mindful that he's experiencing a full circle moment.
Partly Draymond Green got to where he is now is
because he got a starting job when David Lee was hurt,
and David Lee was very professional when he lost his

(59:19):
starting job to him, and I think Draymond's mind is like, hey,
I got to pay it forward.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Here on thousand percent. He's a thirteen year Vetnam Draymond.
He wants to win. Look, I didn't trust the Warriors
at twelve and three. I know they're good, but I
think they're that good. Then they lose six to seven. Yeah,
and so and by the way, for the I think
they lost that game to Minnesota by like twenty So,
you know, but it's a long season. They're going to

(59:44):
be in the in the conversation, and so final thought,
it looks like the NBA will be returning to China
next season for some games. I think that's kind of
a big development given what took place a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, without a doubt. Obviously we know how you know,
there's a geopolitical conflict At twenty nineteen, when Darryl Morey,
when he was with the Eastern Rockets, tweeted out, you know,
very innocuous tweet just supporting protests in Hong Kong. But
that obviously opened up a Pandora's box about you know,
a bunch of international incidents in China and how they

(01:00:21):
see Hong Kong and the history of its independence from
Great Britain, et cetera. And so you know, obviously the
NBA is one of many multinational companies based in the
US that has business types of China, so they're trying
to be diplomatic here. Now. They did hit a pause
on that, and so the fact that they did resume

(01:00:42):
it for starting next season with having two pre preseason
games with the Brooklyn Nets and the Phoenix Sun shows that,
you know, there has been an improvement of relations. And look,
the NBA, they're always going to be open for criticism
because of the fact that China has an authoritarian government.

(01:01:04):
But I think what we have to keep in mind
or two things. One, there's so many multinational companies in
the US to do business with China.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
The owner of the next did the preseason game. They're
going to play the Adelson family. I believe they own
an arena there, don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah. Yeah. And the second thing is, even though it
it did seem a little tone deaf, when you know,
the NBA was separating itself from Darryl Moury was an
innocuous suite of supporting, you know, democrat democratic movement. You know,
I will say that the NBA also resisted any pressure

(01:01:42):
from China about you know, putting any disciplinary action on
Darryl Moury, whether it was you know, financial or you know,
getting rid of them entirely. You know, the NBA made
it clear that, you know, the Houston Rockets are their
own organization. And obviously Daryl Morey has since gone to Philadelphia.

(01:02:02):
But the NBA, in their mind felt like that they
still stood up for their employees by saying, hey, we're
not going to allow a different country to impose how
we're going to handle personnel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Well, the irony, ever so quickly is that the Rockets
became taboo in China, and the irony is one of
the great Rockets of all time was the Chinese national
hero Yao Ming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But that's right, Yeah, James Harden is a very well
when he was achieved, and very popular player. I think
the other thing, the reason why the NBA got so
much criticism is, you know, they were known, especially during
the times that we're in, as having athletes that spoke
out on social issues and sometimes delved in the political realm,
and so they felt like they saw some double standards.

(01:02:47):
No doubt there's double standards. But I think you know
the thing that we also have to keep in mind
is that it's one thing for players to bring up
about issues that they're familiar with in their backyard or
you know, have gone through life experiences when it comes
to social racial justice issues and much differently than trying
to provide expertise or commentary on international affairs involving in

(01:03:12):
another country.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Well, I think maybe next week we can dive into
this a little bit. My guess is this is an
overture by Adam Silver.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I think the NBA would love to get that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
To get money making venture.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
They want to get that Chinese TV market back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I think, yeah, it's a business decision.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Sure, Mark, great stuff is always full plate, and I'm
sure we'll have another full plate when we talk again.
You take care, buddy, enjoy the rest of your week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Thanks Mark. Mark Medina our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru.
We have them on every Saturday night at midnight. Clearly
you can see that Mark very much has his finger
on the pulse. All Right, we have to start to
shift toward the NFL. As we are nine and a
half hours away from the resumption a week fourteen. I

(01:04:01):
know everybody wants to bash the chiefs, you know, the
chiefs that are eleven and one and the Chiefs that
have won back to back Super Bowls, and if the
playoffs started today would have the home field advantage again
and a bye. Maybe there are two sides to the story.
Let's take a little look at the Chiefs and how
teams in the past. Maybe who started eleven and one physical?

(01:04:23):
But they weren't the Chiefs. So I want to take
off for the Chiefs for a minute. I'm Bernie Fraddle
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(01:05:10):
heavy as the head who wears the crown, and obviously
the Kansas City Chiefs trying to become the first team
to three peat in the Super Bowl era. Although if
you're scoring at home, the Green Bay Packers actually won
the NFL Championship in nineteen sixty six, and when Super
Bowl One was played on January fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven,

(01:05:32):
they beat the Chiefs thirty five to ten, and then
they came back and won Super Bowl two against the
Raiders thirty three fourteen. So they did win three in
the row, but technicality, the first one was not actually
a Super Bowl. It was before the official merger, and
so therefore, long and short of it is, the Chiefs
are trying to become the first team to win three

(01:05:52):
in a row, and so far, so good. They've won
two in a row, and they've started off this season
eleven and one, but not without intense scrutiny, and the
scrutiny sometimes starts to become laughable because they're not winning
in a manner that's particularly dominating. I guess there are
a lot of adjectives that describe how the Chiefs have
continued to win games for the last twelve weeks. The

(01:06:17):
Chiefs end almost every game with some sort of narrow
victory and some sort of perhaps maybe there's a little
bit of magic dust. But look, there's an old saying
in life. Man be at the right place at the
right time, Comma and do something about it. Well, the
Chiefs take advantage of their opportunities. You can't penalize them
for that. But if you must, you can't be called

(01:06:39):
incorrect to call in the least impressive eleven to one
team in NFL history. There have been since nineteen seventy now,
there have been forty seven teams that have started eleven
and one, But the twenty twenty four Chiefs and their
point differential at plus fifty four ranks last now and
by the way, it's not even close. It's the second

(01:07:00):
worst team. Going back to the seventy six Raiders, they
started eleven and one. Their point differential was plus seventy four.
For what it's worth, they went on the stuff the
Vikings that year they beat the Vikings thirty two to fourteen,
a game played at the Rose Bowl. That was Super
Bowl eleven and I'll never forget because Fran targeted. That

(01:07:23):
was the Vikings fourth Super Bowl loss and they've never
won one. God great, good, great Viking team with Chuck Foreman.
The quarterback was Fran Tarkton, and that following Saturday, after
the Vikings lost to the Raiders thirty two to fourteen
in Super Bowl eleven, played at the Rose Bowl, Tarkington

(01:07:46):
was the hostess Saturday Night Live and he you might
want to get a you might want to get a
rim shot ready here by, because Fran Tarketin gets up
and his opening monologue is, Hi, I'm Fran Tarkton, quarterback
of the Minnesota Vikings. And you know, the Vikings have
been to the Super Bowl four times in this decade
and we've lost all four and you know what, we're

(01:08:08):
going back next year and we're gonna lose again. Nicely done, Mark,
nicely done. That's true, true story. But you can call
the Raiders lucky. I don't think it's all luck. If
you look at each team's average winning margin this season
and games that they won, the Chiefs five point seven
points rankhead of only the Browns, Raiders, and Colts. Yet

(01:08:30):
Volse three have the same number of combined wins. Eleven
is Kansas City. So look at the end of the year.
They don't ask Coyle just how many. I know a
lot of times they look like they're playing with their food.
They got to be mentally tired. I mean, this is
amazing what they're doing in this day and age when
the league is designed to bring parody. But I want
to say this, I don't think it's all luck. The

(01:08:51):
Chiefs are one of just seven teams, along with the Lions, Bills, Eagles, Packers, Vikings,
and Steelers, to rank top eleven in both offensive and
defensive scoring, and their DVA is still above average on
both sides of the ball. Mahomes is still better than
you think he is fourth and EPA, And despite questions
sometimes about the Chiefs defense, didn't get any questions from me.

(01:09:15):
They rank six in yards allowed per play. They also
hold the second best Super Bowl odds to win it
all again. So would you ask yourself, what city you
live in, what team you root for? Would you trade
places with the Chiefs? I bet you would. Now, there's
only one or two ways this thing's gonna end up.

(01:09:36):
Could they fizzle? They could? The Chiefs could fizzle. Remember
the twenty twenty two Vikings. They were ten and two
at this point nine eleven and one. Remember the Eagles
last year they were ten and two, not eleven and one,
But they shared very similar slim margins of victory over
the September, October, November, and into December games before their

(01:09:58):
luck kind of ran out. The Vikings lost three of
their final seven games Philly. Meanwhile, last year went one
on six and both those squads lost in the wild
card round. But remember they didn't have well, actually, the
Vikings lost at home to Daniel Jones, but that's not
the point. They would didn't have Patrick Mahomes and Andy
Reid and Travis Kelsey in that DNA. Man, there's something

(01:10:22):
about that red helmet. Something about that red helmet and
Andy Reid. You know, Casey Stangle, the Yankees were dominant
in the fifties and went like eight World Series. Casey
Stangle said, Dude, teams can't beat the Yankees because they
get stuck staring at the pinstripes. Well, I actually think
teams are freaked out about the Chiefs too. I really

(01:10:42):
mean that. I know it's the National Football League, but
you get to those high leverage points in the game
where the heat gets hot, it's hard to breathe, and
the Chiefs seem to make all the plays and their
opponents don't necessarily do that, so they could fizzle. They
could fizzle. Who catches them and ain't gonna be Baltimore
forget it. I know they got missed October Lamar Jackson.
There's a reason they're eight and five. Ain't going to happen.

(01:11:05):
Buffalo could, but again when Buffalo go. Josh Allen is
like Penn stateon James Franklin regular season Josh Allen, yes, sir,
get him in the postseason. I think he's owned three
against the Chiefs. So until they do it, until they
do it, so will either fizzle, which I'm not banking on.
I think the Chiefs are really good, or they repeat.

(01:11:26):
Now entering seven week seventeen. Last year, remember the Chiefs
were only ninth in Power rankings. After a one score
loss to the Raiders. The record was nine and six.
Doubt had very much crept in, but then you saw
Mahomes again win the Super Bowl thanks to a defense
that stepped up a defense seventh and dbaa but cornerback.

(01:11:49):
But look, I think it's a fool's errin betting against
the Chiefs, even though they don't cover every week, but
until if somebody knocks them off, and so until somebody
knocks off the champ I still think they can. They
can threepeat. Can they beat the Lines on a neutral,
Yes they can. Can they beat the Eagles on a neutral?

(01:12:11):
Yes they can. Who in the AFC is gonna catch him?
I don't think it's Baltimore. It could be Buffalo. I
don't think it's anybody coming out of the West. The styles.
I look, just let's let it play out. So what happens. Listen,
The likelihood is just land somewhere in the middle, all right.
For their next five games are teams that have winning records,

(01:12:34):
which means some of those one score games will could
start to go the other way. But come playoff time,
I would be very dubious about betting against Patrick Mahomes,
who's eight to zero in one score postseason games. Okay,
you may think they're dancing whistling through the graveyard. All
they do is win, win, win, and you may not

(01:12:55):
like how they do it, but they do it, and
so again, haters, you want to beat him. That's just
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We're gonna dive heavily into the NFL. We're gonna get into,

(01:13:37):
as we do every week, who's trending up, who's trending down.
We're gonna dive into, as we do every Saturday, the
current NFL playoff picture of the standings. If the season
in the today, who where the you know, where the
the seedings would be, Who would have to travel? Who
would have a buye it says certainly we're talking about
and will and we will absolutely start to dive into

(01:13:59):
the matchups on the matchups, talk about some of the
winners and losers from week thirteen, because that matters. We
always look back before we look forward, because the NFL
is very much a week to week league. But I
want to take a quick hiatus. We do this every year.
You know, I've always said, one of the three best

(01:14:19):
things that can happen to you is get fired by
George Steinbrenner. He'll pay you and your family for the
rest of your life. I'll be hired by the Ford
family in Detroit. The years I covered the team head
coach GM whatever what Matt Million made what fifty million
dollars there and they were fifty games under five hundred.
The Fords were I thought, impeccable employers. They didn't pressure
their people. They gave them the freedom to the autonomy

(01:14:41):
to run their business. And you didn't even have to
produce results. Third thing, you know, you lose the war
in the United States, they'll take care of it for
the next tenth centuries. But there's another one, another one
if you're a fired college football coach. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
back up. The bringstruck last year was really crazy because
we had Jim Fish Jimbo. But this year's no slots either.

(01:15:02):
We'll give you a quick roll call. As of last
Monday afternoon, fifteen FBS college coaches have been fired during
the season or since it ended. Saturday schools owing. These gentlemen,
oh nothing about forty million dollars. Now, it wasn't like
last year where it was one hundred and eighteen million dollars.
That was the record, but seventy six million of that

(01:15:22):
was paid to Jimbo Fisher. Nobody's at silly again. But
I run some of these numbers by. You tell me
you wouldn't like a few of those shekels in your
back pocket. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to line from
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(01:15:45):
com studios here in Las Vegas. Still so much to
get to. We're not even halfway home yet, and we're
an hour and eight minutes away from the dance Sensation
sweep the nation. What kind of brand new food you
followed by? But my name? Okay? It happens every year
college football coaches get fired, but in this day and age, yeah, baby,

(01:16:07):
you you get fired and you back up the brink stuck.
Starting with West Virginia's coach Neil Brown, who tops the list,
got nine point eight million to go away produced. Ryan
Walters got nine point three million. Florida Atlantic's Tom Herman
boy is he sunk whoo? Former Texas coach, former Houston
coach fired from Florida Atlantic four point two million. Mac

(01:16:29):
Brown well even, they paid him two point eight million
to city cyon East Carolina is Mike Houston. This is
He's Carolina two point eight million. Don Brown, the erstwhile
Michigan defensive coordinator who was always massively overrated massively got
a million point four to leave UMass Biff Pogi also

(01:16:51):
had Michigan ties. His son was a full back at Michigan.
Got let go of Charlotte. They paid him one point
three million. Florida International. Mikes mcintie I got a million
one even Rice somebody Mike Bloomgren nine hundred thousand dollars
Southern Miss Wave Goodbye to Will Hall. He got eight
hundred and ninety two thousand Kenisas State, Brian Bohannon six

(01:17:14):
hundred and five thousand to go away Ball States, Mike
new five hundred and fifty thousand to say don't let
the door hit you and it took us on the
way out, and Appalachian States Sean Clark five hundred thousand.
Don't let the door hit you with the good Lord splitcher.
These figures come from Front Office Sports Research and the
Salary Tracker and other various reports and estimates. And look,

(01:17:37):
there's also sometimes offset language, which means the schools don't
know the full amount if the coach is getting another
job somewhere else. But the truth of the matter is
and no, probably more. But this is what it works, man,
it doesn't you know. You structure that contract so if
they say we don't watch it anymore, you're gonna pay
me to go away. And boy do they get paid

(01:17:58):
starting with the ALTI t'm Jimbo Fisher seventy six manion.
By the way, Ryan Day's numbers thirty seven million. I
don't think he's going anywhere, but if he's one and done,
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I'm glad it doesn't. But what if the NFL season
ended today? What would the playoff picture look like? Were

(01:18:43):
the standings matchups AFC you already know the Chiefs eleven
and one to the number one seed, followed by the
bill Steelers, Texans, Chargers, Ravens, and Broncos. They'd all be
in the tournament now, hanging on for dear life. But
it's getting dimmer. The Colts and Dolphins both already have

(01:19:03):
seven losses, so they're two full games behind Denver in
the lost column. They're running out of time. The Bengals
are four and eight. I think you could stick a
four of them. And that's not even bother talking about
the Browns, Jets, Titans or Patriots you get the picture,
or the Raiders. The NFC you already know, Lions not
the first twelve win team in the National Football League
to beat Green Bay thirty four to thirty one on

(01:19:25):
Thursday night, They'll have they would have the bye as
it stands right now, but hey, don't look back. Somebody
could be gaining and by the way, the Lions got
Buffalo on deck next week. The Eagles are trending. They're
ten and two. They're the number two seed, followed by this.
It's a big drop off from there, big drop off.
The Seahawks seven and five. I don't know if they'll

(01:19:45):
hold on it win that division. They might the West
they get Arizona Sunday. The Falcons at six and six.
They're stinky. They're six and six, but they're the whole
AFC South. What is with that division? You know, the
Vikings ten and two. They'd have a lower seed both
the Seahawks and Falcons because they're not leading their division.
The Lions are the Pack nine and four of the

(01:20:05):
Commandos eight and five, hanging on for dear life. The
the Bucks, Cardinals at the Rams all have six losses,
which is one loss back from Washington in the lost column,
and they've they've already had their buy so they they've
played one more game. I think, you know, the Niners
at five and seven, the Cowboys at five and seven mathematically,

(01:20:27):
but come on, you know, I don't. I don't like
their chances needed to you, So these would be the pairings.
The AFC the Chiefs as it stands right now, they
would they would get to sit the first one out,
they'd have a buy and the Chargers at the fifth seed,
would visit the would visit Houston and play the Texans.
The Ravens as the sixth seed currently, and I wish

(01:20:50):
people would stop force feeding us on how great this
team is. They're good, and they're they're pole rated high
as they should be. But when it matters, show me,
don't tell me, show me. They would have actually have
to visit Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's currently the number three seed. Can
imagine the Ravens being won and done this year. It
could have happened, could happen. The Bills are the number
two seed, David Host, those pecky, pesky Denver Broncos who

(01:21:13):
are not bad, not bad. Over in the NFC, the
number five seed Vikings would visit Atlanta as the number
four seed, even though the Vikings have better record. The
Packers would be the number six seed. They would visit
the number three seed Seahawks again even though the Packers
have a better record, and give it up to the
Washington Commanders. Dan Quinn and you know their stud quarterback

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they're the seventh seed. They'd have to go to Philadelphia,
which would be not a lot of fun. But at
least they're in the at least they're in the dance.
So that's where things stand right now. You know, this
season has really sort of been a season of comeback stories.
I know that Russell Wilson stock was at an all
time low in the NFL. He had back to back

(01:22:01):
subpar seasons, but actually he threw twenty six touchdown passes
in twenty twenty three against eight picks. But he you know,
he was just not Sean Payton's guy. It wasn't gonna happen.
But I know I told you this back in like
in camp and in week three or four. He's a
much better passer than Justin Fields, and Mike Tomlin took

(01:22:21):
a chance on him, and he's been repaid. You know,
Russell Wilson's actually been to a super Bowl and won
a Super Bowl, been to two of them, and I
know he's nowhere near that player now, but he's got
something left in the cookie yard. He understands how to
play the position. And you cannot tell me the Steelers
have not benefited from upgrading from Justin fields, he's okay

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to to Russell Wilson. And look, if you would have
told me back last summer that in Week thirteen Wilson
would throw for four hundred yards and he'd beat Joe
Burrow and the Steelers would be nine and three, I
would say, I can see that happening, But none of

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you would have because you all hate the guy and
so your personal feelings override your objective truce. The guy's
a good quarterback, Okay. I know he's a little weird
out there and all that, and people resent him and
they're not really sure how to take them sometimes, but
you know, hey, when they snap the ball and the
ball's in the air and then you know the bullets flying,
it's real. He's not a bad guy. And this is

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the thinnest position in all of sports. I want to
give a tip of the cap to second year quarterbacks
Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson because they're trending up. I
never gave up on Bryce Young. I want to see
a guy get twenty eight starts before he's got too
many pluses in my view. And you know, once the
group think Echo Chambers starts running their mouth, it's over.

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They buried the guy, not me. No, I'm not you know,
I'm not saying he's ready for Canton. I think he
can play the position. I think he can be more
than serviceable. I want to see how he does Sunday
against Philadelphia. I'm not as nearly as high and Anthony Richardson,
but I respect the man because he does mean business.
And again, he's one of these guys whose default mechanisms

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to run. But he's made enough plays recently. And if
you're our bench, unceremoniously in the anti Richardson's case, he
has to be taken out of a game and then
you come back and you compete, you have my respect, okay,
And those guys are doing that, and I know. And
by the way, it's funny because people also like to

(01:24:29):
bash Cliff Kingsbury, you know, just because uh and I
know a lot of people snickered last year when reports
were put forth that the Raiders might be hiring Cliff
Kingsbury as their offensive coordinator. Now they didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
And guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Now those same people are criticizing the Raiders that they
didn't get Kingsbury. And Kingsbury joins the Commanders and you
can't tell me to that that he has not helped
Jayden Daniels and right on cue, somebody said, well, yeah, well,
we're heading into December and that's when all the Cliff
Kingsbury offenses go off a cliff and technically they may
be right. And what does Washington do. They've go out

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and have one of their best offensive performances.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
So, all of a sudden, again talking about a year
of comeback feel good stories, Kingsbury went from a failed
Arizona Cardinals head coach to possibly landing another head coaching
gig in a two year span. I'm told the Bears
might be interested in him next year. We will see.
I'm hopeful there's a comeback story that might be in

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the cards for Justin Tucker, who arguably the greatest kicker
all the time in the NFL. But he's in the
midst of the worst campaign he's ever had. He's got
a lot of work to do to change the tide.
And believe me, Baltimore needs him. And you know, he
cost the Ravens last Sunday and I don't know that

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they were going to beat Philadelphia anyway, but he missed
three more kicks. It happens. Man, it happens. Maybe he's
the football version of Ian Baker Finch. Look it up, right,
the Eagles are very much looking the part, all right.
Not only did they pummel the Ravens last week, they

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really started to expose a lot of the Ravens weaknesses,
all right. And the Bills two weeks ago they beat
the Chiefs, then they had a bye week, and then
they have a snow game that looked like a movie
set against the once vaunted San Francisco forty nine ers.
And where am I going with this? And right now? Okay,

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the two teams playing the bets that are looking like
the most complete are the Eagles and Bills. Now, I
guess I'll also throw the Lions in that category. They
survived Thanksgiving from Chicago, and then they came out and
they beat Green Bay. And you know, at the end
of the year, they don't ask college just how many
the lines are? Twelve and one?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
And I'm not necessarily saying the Eagles are better than
the Lions, but I absolutely believe you if you don't
think the Eagles are a legitimate threat to knock off
the Lions. And what could be a collision course, those
two teams could find each other on the same field
in January, and at this point it would be played
in Detroit. But it's not a lot that that happens, right,

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And I'm glad that the Eagles and the Lions don't
play each other between now and the end of the season,
because they meet in the postseason, maybe even the NFC
title Game for the right to go to the Super Bowl.
Don't man, that would be exciting, That would really be exciting.
The Eagles have a defensive unit that can at least

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perhaps challenge the Lions offense. I think on offense, the
Lions have way more weapons than the Eagles do. But
you know, you know Phillies defense, you know, headed by
Vic Fangio, They're they're proving very capable. Just that's Lamar Jackson.

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They couldn't do a lot against Philly's defense last week.
The Bills, I know, they're they're never gonna outlive you know,
the damoclets that hangs over their shoulder. But they're all
their past postseason uh disappointments, going to four Super Bowls,
losing them all, having just an inability to get through

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Kansas City and the reason you will never see me
jump ship on Kansas City. Just from a practical standpoint
is because I just feel like they're going through the
motions right now and doing what they have to do.
But when January rolls around, they're gonna flex. They're gonna
flex now on paper and metrically, they're their struggles are

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slightly worse than they were last season. But remember they
were nine to six at Christmas Day last year. Uh,
they're still eleven and one, and I expect them to
beat the Chargers someday. And yeah, you could. You could
call out the Raiders. I checked that, you can call
out the Chiefs and said, we have barely beat the
It barely beat Carolina. It's just a bad omen. No,

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it's not. They won those games. Okay, they won those games.
And so the bottom line is, you know, there are
a lot of interesting stories brewing again, the Cliff Kingsbury
thing something to watch. Russell Wilson, he wants a second
Super Bowl ring clearly what you want to continue to
follow the progress of Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young. Both

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these guys were picked in the top four in the
twenty twenty three draft, both got benched. Both are having
comebacks and second opportunities, and so far they seem to
be making the most out of all those opportunities. So
it's a fun it's a fun season, and by the way,
huge props. I don't think, with all due respect, I
don't think the Chargers is exactly miss Tom to Let's

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go and Brandon Staley, because anybody noticed that the draft,
just from this past April, he's already, you know, this
very first draft class for their GM. Joe Ortiz for
the Chargers is already paying major dividends their second round

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to the receiver Lab McConkey. He's basically now justin Herbert's
best target in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago. Nine
catches one hundred and seventeen yards. And I get it, Yes,
they could have elak neighbors, but Joe Alt, who was
the number five pick overall last April, is basically now
going to be a cornerstone for the Chargers at right tackle,

(01:30:32):
probably for the next decade. So you get a receiver
who's got the kind of production I just said, and
you got a cornerstone offensive lineman. You can't beat that. Right,
They have another cornerback starting a rookie that was just
drafted treup Hill. They didn't get him down the fifth round.
He had one of the pick sixes against Kirk Cousins

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in the third quarter last week, returned it for sixty yards.
Another rookie corner Cam Hart, also drafted in the fifth round.
A cornerback for the Chargers, making plays right and left.
And he's a big dude, man. He's you know, six three,
two fifteen. And if you want to see the Chargers
twenty twenty four draft class on display, hey watch this

(01:31:18):
Sunday night football game against the Chiefs now As you know,
there are you know what, for every winner, there's a loser,
And that's just kind of like, you know, trite phraseology.
But I want to talk about some of the folks
who are not necessarily having fun in the National Football

(01:31:40):
League this year, and we'll talk about that coming up.
I'm Bernie Freddle. We are Company Lion from the Las
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(01:32:01):
eight minutes away from the Dan Sensation sweep of the nation.
What kind of brand new fool are you? Followed by
what my name? I got a doozy tonight from Boston.
Some individual who wanted to see Tom Brady play so
badly when he came back with the Tampa Bay Bucks.
She's now going to be spending thirty months in jail.
We'll get to that brand new fool, followed by what

(01:32:23):
my name here in about thirty eight minutes. The Falcons
brand new fools for breaking the bank for Kirk Cousins
and then drafting Michael Pennix and they don't even use them. Look,
the Falcons. The good news is the last left.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
The Falcons are defense. They had their best performance of
the year. Five sacks, didn't allow an offensive touchdown. But
Cousins and his four interceptions that cost the Falcons her
third straight game. Who the hell does he think he is?
Jameis Winston. By the way, Cousins is thirty six years
old now looking very much thirty six. Maybe hasn't even

(01:33:01):
thrown a touchdown pass since November three. But you waste
a first dround and I'd say waste because I covered
the Lions for ten years and I covered ten drafts.
You want that first round pick to plug in as
a starter year one and say, this guy's going to
be a starter for five years minimum. Okay, you got
two quarterbacks on the roster. One. I don't think he

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can play anymore. He's been poor for a while and
he's gonna be Cousins is going to be severely tested
in Minnesota Sunday. The Vikings are obviously a team who
know him well, and he's gonna face one of the
most aggressive defenses in the league. One of the issues
with Cousins is funny because defensicksaid, he can't throw a

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pass anymore. He can't move anymore. Cousins has the mobility
of an upright vacuum cleaner now, so we can't escape pressure.
That's a problem because then he goes into this gunslinger mentality.
He starts throwing the ball to the other team. Falcons
were really hoping Cousins could uplift them this year. He's
throwing thirteen picks and they're you know, they're gonna have

(01:34:09):
to hand the keys to Michael Pennis. At some point.
You drafted the guy eighth overall, what'd you do that for? Why?
Now I get it. The Falcons are six and six.
Technically they leave the division and after the Vikings they
get to play their Raiders, Giants, Commandos, and Panthers. So
you know what, do you march panics in there and

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think he can help you? Or do you what do
you do? I don't care what they do. I'm just
pointing out that I think Cousins is a shot fighter.
Right now, we'll see if he can make a layer
out of me in Minnesota later on this afternoon. I
would not bank on it. I feel bad for Christian
McCaffrey right snow. Games are fun, especially if you're getting paid.

(01:34:50):
It's all fun of games and until somebody loses an
eye or you lose your starting running back. Kyle Shanahan
found out Sunday night after getting their butt kicked in
Buffalo confirmed that McCaffrey has a PCL injury. He'll be
probably shut down for the rest of the year. The
Niners are five and seven. Their playoff odds dropped to
ten percent. They do get the Stinky Bears Sunday, but boy,

(01:35:13):
the odds for the Niners to get to the playoffs.
They lose thirty five to ten. Hey, Mama said there'd
be years like this, right Brandon I who gets paid
goes off a Cliff mac Jones or people can't wait
to throw a brock Purty under the bus. There's another guy, Well,
he's no good anymore. Didn't that his weapons? Well give
me a quarterback out there, who does you know go

(01:35:35):
to the Super Bowl without any weapons? Come on, please?
You know I love Joe Montana also had John Rice,
Jerry Taylor, Roger Craig, and one of the best defenses
in Bill Walsh. Okay, if you lost all those guys,
you might not have been Joe Montana. So the brock
Purty haters, you're starting to get on my nerves a
little bit. You've always been on my nerves actually, But
that's not good for Christian McCaffrey. The Chargers. Look, they're

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eight and four, or they beat the Falcons last week
seventeen to thirteen. Their defense is really stepping up under
Jesse Mener, who also was the architect of that defense
at Michigan. But I think if you're a Chargers fan,
you should be worried, very worried losing. JK. Dobbins he's
on IR with an mcl sprain. This is a team

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built to run the ball, build around the run without JK.
Dobbins or not the same. And now Lab Maconkey's banged up.
And I don't know if the Chargers have a good
enough defense to go on the road in weather in
the playoffs, so they may start to trend down. Let's
see how they do against Kansas City Sunday night. I
expect Kandas City to win that game and probably cover

(01:36:41):
the spread. We'll see the Jaguars two and ten. You
know what happened last week. Trevor Lawrence took a pretty
brutal late hit by a ziz lsheer who's ejected and
suspended for three games. And I think they're shutting Trevor
Lawrencetown for the year. And they're two and ten. Mac

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Jones came off the bench, not bad, twenty thirty two
for two thirty five, two touchdowns. They lost to Houston
twenty three to twenty. And it's my belief that the
Jacksonville Jaggs plus four on someday. I don't know if
you get four anymore. Tennessee, Tennessee, they can't find their
butt with both hands there laying points. You dressed them
up as a favorite. They're onwing five and against the spread,

(01:37:26):
and in the last five games at home this year
and they were all as a dog. Now you dress
them up as a favorite. I don't know, and I
don't know what the hell happened to the Bengals defense.
My god, they're allowing a very good year by Joel Burrow,
who's played it honestly, has played an elite level every year.
He can't help them win. And statistically Burrow might be well,

(01:37:48):
certainly a top three quarterback, maybe the NFL's best quarterback
this season. And when you score thirty points in a
game four times and lose all four games, that's gonna
make you have a bad day, right, Bengals are four
and eight, But they're four and eight because their defense
has gone off a cliff. What the hell happened? I
don't know. I love their defensive coordinator, lou Anarrumo. They

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didn't want to sign Jesse Bates, who's go off to Atlanta,
big time playmaker. Defense goes off a cliff, So you
know the Kirk Cousins by the way, by the way,
because I've really sung the praises of Kyler Murray and
Jonathan Gannon all year. Jonathan Gannon is the new coach
in Arizona. But the Cardinals have at a wall in

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the past couple of weeks and they're now six and six,
and their offense seems to be you know, somebody put
a governor on their offense. And if you've got Kyler
Murray's your starting quarterback, I think you got to let
them cook, right, Russ isn't the only one who can cook.
I've always liked Kyler Murray. He seems healthy this year.
He's a far more efficient game manager than people give

(01:38:56):
them credit for. But he remembers he's the number one
overall pick back in twenty twenty nineteen. But it feels
like they've put they've put some rains on him, and
I think he has too much athletic ability, too much town,
too much playmaking ability, and they're paying him a fortune
just to take the safe throws and and and be conservative.
I think it's I think it's hurting Arizona. And they

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could have beaten the Vikings last week they lost twenty
three twenty two. Although you know, I'm not behind the
four walls there, so I don't want to. I don't
want to be that guy. They have an offensive coordinator
named Drew pettsing in Arizona. He's a very bright guy,
and I think he's not the type of guy that
wants his quarterback to be a playground quarterback. And in

(01:39:43):
that playground quarterback style, he has never really gotten the
Cardinals anywhere near the Promised Land. And you know last
week Kyler Murray through a bad interception when all Arizona
needed to do is just get in field goal range
to beat Minnesota, and they were, they were close to
doing it. But look, they're still alive. The Seahawks are
seven and five if the coincidentally is the Seahawks player

(01:40:07):
z on a Sunday and the Zona six and six,
So the Zona wins I think to be tied, right,
But look, you got a first year coach and Jonathan
Gannon and maybe there's still adjusting to some things right. Finally,
these guys are top of the dork list, Caleb Williams

(01:40:28):
and Matt Eberflus. If you followed the Bears this week,
it wasn't just Thanksgiving. Grieber flu showed in the final
minutes that he might not be capable of operating at
a high level when the game is on the line.
There were multiple opportunities, multiple situations, incidents in twenty twenty

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four where the Bears got into the final minutes of
close games and Eberflus seemed to be again looking like
the Mike McCarthy guy who's wandering around the mall parking lot,
can't see where he parked his car. The Bears they
lost those games of the Commanders and Green Bay Packers.
One was because of a walk off Hail Mary, which
is unforgivable that seemed to start the street and then

(01:41:15):
a block field goal. Those were a couple of brutal losses,
but that was a picnic compared to the final minute
meltdown against the Lions on Thanksgiving Day. And you can't
exactly say that Eberflus protected his quarterback. He didn't use
his final time out. The clock kept ticking, ticking, ticket,
you're waiting, Will somebody make a decision? What are you

(01:41:35):
doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
And then ibra Flus he couldn't take the time out
back to Chicago. He couldn't even take his job back
to Chicago, and ibra Flues it crossed his job that
was the straw that broke the camel's back. Now everybody
wants to call them. Maybe not everybody anymore, but they
wanted to. Certainly want to call Caleb Williams a franchise quarterback.

(01:42:01):
He's nowhere near that yet. Yeah, and I get he's
a rookie. He's a rookie, but put him next to
Jayden Daniels are bow Knicks. I don't think Daniels or
bow Knicks would have taken a killer sack. Wasted a
bunch of time with the game on the line, tick
tick tick, then defending themselves at the end of the game.
Williams Kayla Williams has shown flashes and you know, he's

(01:42:23):
kept his wits about him somewhat during the six game
losing streak. Maybe he'll get better, maybe he won't. I
don't know, but I don't think they're having a lot
of fun in the twenty twenty four version of the NFL.
You know who is the Eagles. They haven't lost the
game since September. They beat Baltimore last week twenty four
to nineteen, the first time the Philadelphia Eagles ever won

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in Baltimore. Give it up to Vic Fangio. He has
a way of marching on elite defense. He's did it
for Jim Harbaugh back in twenty twelve when they lost
to the aforementioned Ravens. But this seemed to fly under
the radar. Vic Fangio and the defense he put on
the field for Philadelphia containing Lamar Jackson big time. Even
Cooper dejan had a nice tackle on Derrick Henry that

(01:43:07):
made the rounds. And Saquon Barkley, what a git. Really
really been a clutch season for him. I think he
should be mentioned among MVP candidates. He now leads Saquon Barkley,
now leads Derrick Henry in yards from scrimmage by over
two hundred yards on the season. You know, very quietly,

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there was a big deal about this. In twenty twenty two.
The Vikings are ten and two and they find ways
to win close games as well. They pulled one out
a minute remaining last week. Aaron Jones touchdown, he caught
a touchdown pass gave the Vikings a twenty three to
twenty two league and that was the first lead of
the entire game. And that's where the score ended. And

(01:43:51):
you know, Jones had fumbled earlier in the game and
Sam Darnell had kind of a resilient fourth quarter seven
to twelve for a buck fifteen in a touchdown. This
bodes well for the Vikings. You know, do I think
the Lions are the leaders of the pack to go
to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but the Vikings are one
of only three teams I think they can beat him

(01:44:13):
the NFC, the Vikings, the Packers and the Eagles. And
I'm not saying they will, but I'm just saying I
think they could. I really think those cluster injuries. I mean,
Kayleb Williams had a good second half against the Lions,
not because he figured out how to play, but the
pass rush wasn't getting home. And the Packers put up
thirty one the other night as well, so we'll see.
The Lions can very much get to the super Bowl.

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But by no means is it a lock. No means
give it up to the Colts. I was critical. They're
now six and seven. Anthony Richardson doesn't really put up
good numbers. He was twelve to twenty four for one
hundred nine yards, threw a couple picks against the Patch
last week. But what it mattered most at the end,
he led another game deciding touchdown drive. And then you

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gotta love what Shane Steikin did. Made the guts, he
call to go for a two pointer. He went for
the win, and Anthony Richardson it was pure effort, it
was pure desire, willed his way into the end zone
and the Colt sealed the victory. That is a feel
good victory, one that you can build on. And I
got to believe the Colts are are very enthusiastic at

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least you know about the way they compete and the
fact that they're not dead for a playoff spot. They
do have a bye this week. However, you know they
went to Drake Main New England a few weeks ago
and he continues to impress in my opinion, twenty four
or thirty last week, two hundred and thirty eight yards,
threw a touchdown, he did throw a one pick, wasn't

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his fault, and after the Richardson lunge, you know, there
were still twelve seconds left in the game and Drake
may damn near brought him back. Joey Sly, I mean
they got in position. Joey Sly attempted a sixty eight
yard field goal as time ran out and damn near
almost made the thing. I want to give props again
one more time to Bryce Young. Yes, the Panthers. They

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lost to twenty six twenty three overtime game to the
Bucks last week, but as Baker Mayfield put it, plug
your ears ear muffs, Young quote played his balls off.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
He did.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Bryce Young was great. He's only four nineteen years the starter,
but he's really showing improvement. Had one hundred and eighty
six yards passing in the first half, through for almost
three hundred second most of his career, and at a
great catch by Adam Thielen. I liked the way I
like Bryce Young. I liked him at Modern Day, I
liked him at Alabama, he went to a more bun franchise.

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Dave Canalis comes over as our head coach. Remember Dave
Canalis is a quarterback. Whisperer just asked Baker Mayfield and
the effect he had on Baker Mayfield last year in
Tampa Bay prior to that with Russell Wilson in Seattle.
There's reasona believe Bryce Young is going to be Okay,
let it play itself out. I want to see what
he looks like after twenty eight starts and you know

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not when he's part of a circus act. Steelers N
one than three. You always knew they could play defense,
but did you know they could put up forty four
points in a game? Yep. They beat Cincinnati last week
forty four to thirty eight, four hundred and fourteen yards
of offense, three touchdowns from Russell Wilson. They're now averaging
three hundred and ninety yards per game and twenty nine

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points a game since Russell Wilson took over. All due
respect to Justin Fields is not a major league quarterback.
He's a world class athlete. He's not a major league quarterback.
His default mechanism is to run. He's not great on
pre snap reeds, processing coverages. Look, the position a quarterback

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is as demanding as any position in the world. You
have to combine intellectual ability, You've got to have physical attributes.
You've got to be able to evade large defenders adapt
in an instant. It's a situation where you know, you
make your post snap reeds, you make your pre snap
reeds to see if they match up. You have less
than two seconds to execute, which is Justin Field's biggest problem.

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It takes too long to get rid of the ball.
It takes too long to make his reads. He's not
on time, he's not on target. He takes off and runs.
He left plays all around the field and give Mike
Tomlin a first ballot Hall of Fame coach top credit
for seeing what the offense could be with a guy
who could actually pass. I get it. If you need
to move your feet to keep a play alive, take note.

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I don't even think Justin Fields does that. He's willy nilly.
If defense is in man to man, that's a green
light to run north and south south. Since DB's are
typically facing away from you, except for the safety, it's
probably thirty yards away. But if the defense is in zone,
roll latterly. Give your receivers a chance to sign a
just the routes get open, create a positive play. The
truth of the matter is it's between the ears. It's

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all about recognition and reaction. How quickly can you recognize
the defender's responsibilities, how quickly can you exploit it. It's
a visual processing skill. Not everybody has it. As a
matter of fact, very few quarterbacks have it. That is
why Justin Fields has had such I think you know

(01:49:08):
it's a difficulty in maintaining consistency. But Russell Wilson steps in,
and you see the numbers are just putting up three
hundred nine yards a game, twenty nine points a game.
We had. You know, somebody tweet at me, you know
he was Jeff. He tweets in full disclosure. I'm a
diehard Steelers fan. I was cold on Wilson when he
first drapped, but no, I've warmed to him. I'd love

(01:49:30):
to see him be just getting started. I definitely want
under the ring, but I'm a realistic fan. Stranger things
have happened. Yeah, there real questions going to be as
it stands right now. Who can stroll into Kansas City
and win? Could Pittsburgh? Yeah it's not a zero, it's
not a zero. Pittsburgh could do it. They could do it.

(01:49:50):
They wouldn't do it. Justin fields though. I want to
give Jade and Daniels some props as well. He's been
a big reason why the Commanders are zero and five,
or checked that eight and five. They end their three
game losing streak last week in very dominant fashion. They
put up forty two points against the Titans, who are
now he favorite this week. Yeah, three and nine I

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guess that the run game got going, which helped Daniels.
But he carried the ball six times forty five rushing yards.
But he also operates nights from the pocket, and you know,
he's a type of guy who is making pretty damn
good decisions with the football and does what he needs
to do. Finally, Leonard Williams not only has Seattle and

(01:50:33):
now seven and five one to three straight, but you
talk about a defensive tackle that's playing in a Hall
of Fame level over the past two games. Now he's
thirty years old, he's been in league a while. Last
two games, five sacks, six quarterback hurries, blocked an extra point,
and the longest pick six by a defensive lineman in
NFL history. Plus he had a crucial third down sack

(01:50:56):
last week which helped the Seahawks beat his former two team,
the New York Jets. And this dude weighs three hundred
pounds and he's helped you know, Seattle on their special teams.
Look give it up. So these are the guys that
are having fun, not having so much fun in the
National Football League so far this year. And again there's

(01:51:18):
that you know, there's still a long way to go
in the season. There really is. They'll always remember what
you did in December. But you know, as far as
difference makers, people trending up, people trending down, we'd like
to cover this every week. Come back stories. There really
are a lot of really cool storylines this year. I

(01:51:41):
want to take a quick jump to baseball. Are they
at some kind of gimmick again? It's possible. We'll talk
about it coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are comedy
line from the Las Vegas Foxforts Radio Tireck dot com studios.
Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, We're back on the
Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming from the Tarac
dot com studios here in Las Vegas, just eleven minutes

(01:52:04):
away from the dance sensation sweep in the nation. What
kind of brand new fool are you? Followed by what
my name? Well, on the heels of the pitch clock
and the ghost runner and some of the other things.
Rob manfriend's probably feeling himself a little bit, and now

(01:52:25):
he's got this other new fangle thought he marched out
the owner's meetings. But by the way, just to set
the record straight. We're nowhere near getting this implemented. But
it's something he's calling a golden at bat. What is it? Well,
Manfred's idea is basic, once per game, once a manager

(01:52:45):
can choose to sit down whoever's on deck and instead
send any batter that he would choose to the plate. Now,
because this is in the conversation only stage, we're really
not one hundred percent clear how the idea or the
proposal will exactly work, and there are a few wrinkles
right now. They might have an option where the only

(01:53:08):
team that is trailing in the ninth inn he can
use a golden bat where, or maybe teams can only
use it the seventhing in or later. It's also not
really been decided whether or not there be any restrictions
on who you can summon. For instance, let's say let's
say Shoho Tani's up and he hits a triple? Can

(01:53:29):
he can he come back and bat again? And what
do you do? Who runs it third base for him?
So these are questions that I'll have to be answered
if this proposal starts to go up the flagpole and
gain steam. So when would this rule be introduced? Well,

(01:53:50):
is it going to happen. There's absolutely no guarantee this
is ever going to happen. It's very much in its
embryonic stage in terms of discussions, and it's a concept
right now that Manfred has put out there. But here's
one thing though, that is real. It's very likely that
the minor leagues are going to start testing this because

(01:54:13):
they've been talking about something similar for a couple of years,
and I would be I would expect that the minor
leagues will implement this in a test manner somehow, just
like they've been doing robal umpires for the last three years.
There's also talk that they would experiment with this concept
during the Major League Baseball All Star Game. It's this

(01:54:35):
is justin as a possible testing ground for the rule, right.
Manfred's quote was quote, most of the changes we have
discussed involved producing matchups in the context of an exhibition
game that the fans want to see the most, you know,
more in terms of substitution and whatnot. I'm receptive of
those ideas in the context of an exhibition game. He's

(01:54:56):
referring to the Major League Baseball All Star Game. Remember
the time is long gone now where the winner gets
the home field advantage of the America to the National League.
I don't think they've done that since twenty eighteen. So
he isn't speaking specifically about the gold in a bat
or the All Star Game. You know what the hell
he's talking about, right. I don't dislike Manfred sometimes he's

(01:55:16):
a very in artful communicator. Right, And not for nothing,
believe it or not. Ten years ago, this was even
Manfred's idea. It was a president for the Miami Marlins
named Dave Samson and formally threw it out there, ran
up the flagpole, and he was part of the competition
committee decked ten years ago and the view was, look,

(01:55:40):
you guys are ruining the sanctity of the game, all right.
The beauty of it is you you have these unsung
heroes like Brian Doyle in the nineteen seventy eight World Series,
it was his turn to come up. The reason you
have that in baseball is because everybody gets to bat.
But in football, not everybody's going to get the ball
in crunch time. And in basketball and not everybody's gonna
get the ball in crunch time. You get the picture.

(01:56:00):
When in baseball everybody has to bat, all right, and
I think it would change the game. I don't really
care for it. I think it's a gimmick. You'd have
to put I think very strict limitations on how teams
could use it, when teams could use it. I think
it fundamentally changes the game, all right. It might even
boost players stats if you what if you did this

(01:56:21):
every night for your best hitter, Mike, if you did
it every night, you might get an extra one hundred
and fifty eight bats a year. Yeah, that might change
the record book as well. And here's the one thing
you got to ask, you know, how are some of
the former players reacting to this, some of the current
players reacting, of some of the managers, it's almost mostly negative.

(01:56:42):
Kevin Yuklis once said, not all change is great, all right,
it's a roller coaster ride in baseball. You have the
unexpected when everybody plays as opposed to these manufactured things.
Plus you're baseardizing the game. So I think it's a gimmick.
I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. And let's
face it be cute to talk about for some people,

(01:57:02):
but the gold in the bat is not going to
be here anytime soon, you know. What is brand new fooling?
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we've come to that time in the show, that juncture
in the week. You know you love it. You can't
leave without it. You see because here on the Bernie
Frattle Show, our staff, good group, well as Jogiberia once said,

(01:57:47):
you can observe a lot by watching. That's exactly what
we do because around this great land of ours, and
keep it around the planet or in the United States
from seed to Oily Sea, we help people do things
that we observe. And sometimes these activities, well there's somewhat
innocuous and kind of stupid and silly, gets you a
little trouble. Other times are far more serious other or

(01:58:07):
instances where they can even land you in jail. But
anyway you slice it, anyway you describe it, anyway you
characterize it, these activities, these behaviors, they always leave us
scratching our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand
new fool are you? So? What kind of brand new

(01:58:31):
fool are you? Well, this week we take you to Boston,
the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You know, Tom Brady may
have had a few fans or two, and some were
willing to pay big bucks to go see him play,
even if they didn't have the money. You see, one
particular fan, Miss Stephanie, Well, she found out it was

(01:58:56):
gonna be about six thousand a ticket to watch him play,
and she certainly was able to come up with the money. Unfortunately,
the money wasn't hers. Courding An, NBC Boston. A federal
judge on Thursday sentenced Miss Stephanie to thirty months behind
bars in three years and supervised released because she did
a little wire fraud and she'd been accused of stealing

(01:59:18):
almost five hundred thousand dollars from her employer, some of
which they used to fund her twenty twenty one trip
Kujillet Stadium where Tom Brady had returned. He was no
longer a member of the Patriots. He was actually a
quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, this money that
Miss Stephanie lifted over her period of six years was

(01:59:38):
money she stole from a company she worked for. She
was able to pull it off. She was an office administrator.
She had access to credit cards, bank accounts, wrote bad checks,
and all kinds of stuff. But now it wasn't just Brady.
She blew this cash on like a hot tub and
plane tickets, fifty thousand dollars worth of products or man Amazon,

(02:00:00):
miscellaneous herbs and spices. Oh yeah, and she also paid
fifty six hundred dollars for tickets to that Brady Patriots matchup.
According to the US attorney, she cashed a lot of
unauthorized checks, logged him in his payments to legitimate vendors,
to legit vendors, actually in her employer's books. She was
also accused of altering other company records, et cetera, et cetera.

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Here's the kicker. Just six months before she started ripping
off this employer, Miss Stephanie had just finished serving on
a prison sentence for close to swiping ten grand from
another employer second time around? Why not? So Miss Stephanie
will spend the next two and a half years in
federal prison for her bad behavior and the financial and

(02:00:46):
emotional turmoil she caused her behavior or caused her employer.
And it was so serious the FBI, the Boston Division
of the FBI, even get involved. So hey, you may
like Tom Brady, you may want to see me, you
may be willing to fork out the money, but if
it ain't your money, you're going to spend thirty months
in prison. Ms Stephanie from Boston. What kind of brand

(02:01:09):
new fool of you? All right, mister Shay always look
forward to yours.

Speaker 5 (02:01:16):
Well, this one is definitely a doozy. This is going
to go to Conroe where Conroe ISD. Parents are unraged
with student punished with restroom brand leading to an accident
in the classroom. So when I read this headline, I
was like, oh boy, how is this even a thing?
They have to be at least like, what in fifth

(02:01:36):
grade or something, because you wouldn't do that to someone
very young. Supposedly the kids were in first grade. But
let me let me give you some background here before
we do anything. Else, so conrou isd parents are expressing
outrage after a message was sent home stating their children
had lost the privilege to use the restroom because of
a lost best restroom pass. The incident occurred at Bartlett

(02:01:58):
At Elementary School in Conroe and has sparks concerns over
the well being and treatment of students, especially young students.
The controversy began when a first grade teacher, Ashley Berera,
allegedly took away the restroom pass from her class around
three pm on a school day, leaving the students unable
to use the bathroom for hours. According to Amber Johnson,

(02:02:19):
a concerned parent, her daughter was in the classroom at
the time. It witnessed many classmates struggling to hold it in,
with some eventually soiling themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Oh boy, I know that. I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
First off, when you're in when you're a first grader,
you lose, you lose things, you know what I mean.
So it's like the fact that a teacher would do that,
first off, is crazy to me, But the fact that
a teacher did that to first graders is even more
wild to me. But anyway, let me get back to
the story. Amber Johnson's daughter so basically came out to
say that some people were crying to death to go

(02:02:56):
to the bathroom. And then parents, including Amber John's and
were further alarmed when they received a message from the teacher.
They literally got a message from the teacher saying that
the bathroom is no longer available to the students because
of the incident of losing the bathroom pass. And then
in the wake of the incident, Johnson learned from other
parents that six students ended up soiling themselves during the

(02:03:19):
entire ordeal. Initially they thought it was two, but no,
after an investigation, they found that six different students soiled
themselves in that single one day.

Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
What's going on with that teacher?

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Absolutely nothing as of right now, they're just investigating to
see what's going on. And the actual school district came
out with a quick little response stating, this afternoon, we
were made aware of a situation in a first grade
classroom in which western privileges were revoked. I have spoken
with the parents of both students who which turned into
six who have suddenly had accidents. The class will have

(02:03:57):
a current staff member to serve as a substitute teacher
for the remainder of the week while complete our investigation
into the matter, this incident is not indicative of the
safe and loving environment we foster at barlat Elementary. I
thank you for your support and continued partnership. Nothing was
basically done after saying that teacher kept their job, so
as of right now, the investigation continues. Many parents are

(02:04:20):
hoping that the school district takes swift and appropriate action,
but as of right now, absolutely nothing has been done.
So this leads me to say, teacher, whose name is
Ashley Barrera, what kind of fool are you? They're first graders, man,
they're gonna looks. I was about to ask you that

(02:04:41):
they're first graders, like they're good. It's crazy, like like
I when I was expecting them to be in fifth grade.
Oh maybe they're like they're trying to figure it out.
They're teaching them like like valuable lessons in life. But
when you're in first grade, you can't even retain what
happened earlier that day, So it's like, what is this
person doing? Like it was just a crazy I mean,

(02:05:02):
I have a first grade cousin and he doesn't even
know what we watched thirty minutes ago, So it's like
a bathroom pass is giving them that much responsibility, and
to just take it away and give them that much
of an insane like take it away bathroom like privileges
is crazy to me, which is like a human right.
Almost I thought it was a crazy story. I was
really upset to read it, honestly, but it was almost

(02:05:25):
like hilarious that this teacher thought that that was the
right thing to do. Watch out for those teachers, man,
they all made seem they're great. But who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
We suck again, by the way, not for nothing. We
all know. My mind doesn't always operate normally. So I
think at one point during your narrative there, Shay, you
implied that there were as many as five students that's
actually six that had formulated a load in the shorts.
If you get my grip, What the hell must that

(02:05:59):
room smell like? That's what I probably it's actually Brera
like got plug nostrils or something.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Is she like?

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
That's good? That's like sado masochism.

Speaker 5 (02:06:08):
Now it's it's seriously, But I mean, if you've been
into a first grade classroom, Bernie, they usually smell like that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
Man, three three toughest years of my life, all right, good,
good research, Shay, excellent, excellent, And uh, I guess you.
I don't know where Conra is. It's not Florida, right, I.

Speaker 5 (02:06:25):
Don't think it's I did some research, but there's so
many different conros out there.

Speaker 6 (02:06:29):
I saw Texas, so I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
It's in Texas. Here's a Conrod Texas.

Speaker 5 (02:06:33):
Yeah, the Texas was like the biggest one, so I
was assuming it's just Texas.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
But in the art, imagine a nice ninety four degree
day with eighty percent humidity and no air conditioned in
the classroom. Oh, six six six kids, you know, formulating
a little uh, you know what I mean, a little soup,
trying to the teacher won't let them go drop the
kids off at the pool, so they just do it
right at the right at their desk. Yeah, well, nicely done.

(02:07:00):
That will conclude another good job, good stuff, mark, nicely
done in that, of course, that concludes another rousing edition
of what kind of brand new fool of You, which
now allows us guys to segue into our second favorite
bit that we lovingly refer to as what my name?
And here we go? All right, I, as an NFL

(02:07:25):
starting quarterback, have thrown more pick sixes in history than
any other NFL quarterback. Mark Ramsey, what my name? He
is a current quarterback? Is a current quarterback?

Speaker 7 (02:07:40):
Is it party?

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Not brock party, not back party? But he plays in
the same state. I've thrown more pick sixes than any
other NFL quarterback in history. Shave Ogangard, what my name?

Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
You brought him up earlier in the show. Matthew Stafford
nicely done. Doesn't take his throne. But Matt Stafford, what happens? Well,
not to be outdone. Actually he is outdone. I've thrown
this second.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
Most pick sixes in NFL history. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
And he at one time played football. He's still well,
he's still a quarterback in the NFL. But he played
football in the state of California. It was his home team.
He played football in California, the NFL, one of the
NFL franchises was his was his team for many years. Uh, Montana,

(02:08:34):
not your Montana, but you're not far off in terms
of proximity to the city. Second most pick sixes in
quarterback history.

Speaker 6 (02:08:43):
He said, he plays right now, and he played right now.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
He plays right now, but not in California. Shae Bogangar,
what my name is it golf, not your golf.

Speaker 6 (02:08:54):
So so let me think the Chargers went to and then.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
He played his college football at Fresno State.

Speaker 6 (02:09:03):
Fresno State, yep.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
He's also got a brother that played quarterback in the NFL.
Either one of you guys can plug.

Speaker 5 (02:09:09):
Oh, oh my god, Derek Carr, you got it, Derek Carr,
I should have known that when you said Fresnow yep.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Oh well, hell, while we're on the subject, let's fast
forward to the twenty twenty four NFL season. And during
the twenty twenty four NFL season, Off throwing more fourth
quarter interceptions this season than any quarterback in the NFL.
Mark Ramsey what my name? I've mentioned him a couple

(02:09:37):
times in the show Tonight.

Speaker 7 (02:09:40):
Is It mister Winston and he had crab lads with
crab legs.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
Nice touch on the krab legs. It's not jamis this
one's Well, here's a clue. He threw a bunch of
picks last week. So Off throwing more fourth quarter interceptions
this season than any of their quarterback in the National
Football League. Seam Ogengard what my name?

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
He did it last week?

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
He threw a bunch last week. Yeah, not they were
in all those fourth quarter interceptions last week. Josh Allen,
not Josh Allen. Let's say you have this, Okay, let's
say you have an uncle who has a child. That
relationship is known.

Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
As a cousin.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
Sam Kirk cousin really more. Yes, he's throwing more interceptions
in the fourth quarter this season than anybody else.

Speaker 5 (02:10:40):
Oh thirteen interceptions. Wow, poor guy.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
All Right, moving on, I'm the only quarterback in NFL
history that actually completed five passes to six different receivers
in the same game. Mark Ramsey, what my name? He
plays in a city I'm very familiar with, currently plays,
currently plays I yess.

Speaker 8 (02:11:06):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (02:11:07):
Golf?

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
Very good? Jared Goff very good. Yeah, and he did,
believe it or not, he did it just this last Thursday. Now,
this one, I know Shane Morgan Yard is gonna get.
Oh god, I'm the first. I love this. I'm the
first Big twelve player in college football in history to

(02:11:31):
accumulate fifteen hundred rushing yards. Boy and five.

Speaker 6 (02:11:36):
Season go I've got a boy. He's so good.

Speaker 1 (02:11:41):
I love that guy. The butcher. Now let me take
a minute. Let's give some freaking props to your Arizona
series Sun Devil.

Speaker 6 (02:11:50):
Why they're for real, man, I've been saying it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
I mean they've won six in a row. They I
love their quarterback. He transferred from Michigan State.

Speaker 6 (02:11:58):
Right, yeah, he so, yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (02:12:01):
It was kind of a crazy story with him and
all that he was the coach left there and then
he was.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
Like, hey, like I'm excited to come and all I know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
The whole story there was listen uh I reported and
too many knuckleheads don't know what they're talking about now.
It was never going to come to Fruition, apparently, but
urban Meyer visited East Lansing. He toured the campus. He
spent a fair amount of time. At the end of
the day, they didn't put the deal together. But it
wasn't a zero. He would have stayed if Erban Meyer

(02:12:28):
had come and he didn't like the Guy's a nice guy,
Jonathan C. Smith. But he's yeah, so this guy, I'm
out of here. He's no Kenny Dillingham though, No, okay,
thirty four years old Kenny Dillingham. Oh he's so good.

Speaker 6 (02:12:39):
We'll have him for another ten years.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
I love this man, dude. I love this team.

Speaker 6 (02:12:43):
It's I love this team too. Bernie it's it's genuinely
it makes nice so happy.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
Yes, yes, I mean did they're they're we needed. First
of all, they're gonna get a buye.

Speaker 6 (02:12:55):
Yes, I think they'll be four. I think they'll be four.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Uh, well, they're gonna be four for one reason. Boise
State was already five slots ahead of them last week,
and then they beat unov by fourteen in their championship games.
So they're not going to fall, right, you can't plus
their twelve and one yearsona State's eleven and two. I agree,
they're they're comparable, you know, they're they're comparable teams. So
we'll see who they get, who they match up with,

(02:13:20):
and you know all that kind of stuff. But look,
I gotta tell you, man, maybe not Oregon, but I
don't there's no one else in this tournament. I don't
think they couldn't beat.

Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
I think we can easily beat Texas. I don't think
Texas is an issue.

Speaker 1 (02:13:33):
I beat Texas hasn't beaten the top twenty five team.

Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
That's I'm what I'm saying. We've beaten more top twenty
five teams or Power four teams honestly than them. And
then we've also beat Okay, everyone's saying that Boise lost
to Oregon, like that's that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
You know, Well, they didn't. If you watched the game,
Ashton Jant ran for three scorers one hundred and ninety
five yards. They competed.

Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
Yeah, they competed, But that doesn't mean that's the only
argument that they lost to Oregon. So I'm like sitting
here like, oh, you guys lost to Oregon, that's your argument.
I'm just like, I think Arizona could go very far.
I've been saying this for a long time, and I've
doubted them in the beginning of the year, but I
will not doubt them anymore. And one last thing on
cam scat about go ahead, this guy would be a

(02:14:17):
Heisman winner if Travis Hunter and Ashton gent were in
a thing. I'm seriously so upset that he had to
blow up this year when the Heisman race is so
insanely difficult because of the talent that we have seen
this year, especially with a two way player like Travis Hunter,
and then Ashton Genty was just an unheard of running back.
I still think Cam is going to translate to the

(02:14:39):
NFL a little bit better than Genty. Just because I
literally I love that fullback type guy, like the guy
that just goes runs forward. I don't know what it does,
but the NFL isn't really seeing it anymore. So I
really hope he does a good job. But we'll see.
We'll see what happens. But if it was any other year,
Cam would be a Heisman winner. Very upseting what I
love about.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
To Okay, first of all, he had two scholarship offers
coming out of high school Sacramento State and William and
Mary are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (02:15:10):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
And then and then you gotta love Arizona State. They
were one hundred to one to win the conference at
the beginning of the year. That's what the Saints were
to win the Super Bowl. And so you know, you
got to factor these things in, right, and and and
look at them now. I mean they were picked to
finish last by the coaches, right, So I mean, my god,
what an amazing story. By the way, I had it

(02:15:32):
right last year. And this is gonna be my projections
that you're gonna see Arizona State get a bye and
I think they'll play the winner of I think SMU
will be the twelve seed and it will be the
five seed get the winner of SMU Penn State at home.
I agree, Nick could beat either one of them.

Speaker 6 (02:15:50):
I think we will be either one of the state.

Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
Yeah, so, and then you would advance. They don't recede,
Oregon will be lying there and wait, they'll play the
win or a Tennessee Ohio State. And if Oregon were
to get knocked off by either of those, Arizona State,
would you know, Let's just take it one at a time.
So this has been fantastic, all right, man, gotta love it.
Love cam Scattabo. All right, I'm the Okay, So here's

(02:16:15):
the situation. You got the You got that one right.
Camp Scattabo was the first Big twelve player in history
fifteen hundred rushing yards five hundred receiving yards in the
same season. However, I'm the last college football running back
to get fifteen hundred rushing yards and five hundred receiving
yards in the same season. Mark Ramsey what my name?
I have mentioned him earlier in the show, and he's

(02:16:38):
out the rest of the year with a PCL injury
in his knee.

Speaker 7 (02:16:42):
H Bernie, I'm going to phone a friend named Shaye.

Speaker 6 (02:16:46):
All Right, the judges will allow it, it's gonna be CMC.

Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
CMC, Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 6 (02:16:52):
Right, that's another guy that had basically like genty.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Who did it back in twenty fifteen at Stanford.

Speaker 5 (02:16:58):
Yeah, he should have won the highest but just didn't
you know what I mean, Like he did so good.
But also that was the same year I think that
what's his name when this Heisman.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Twenty fifteen, Yeah, quarterback, Oh, Derek Hendrick winning twenty five
kind Obama, Yeah, out of Bama. You're right, they're similar.
You you bring up a good point there, They're they're
similar because really, Christian mccaffee came on strong at the end.
So you got to remember Arizona State when six games
and started winning all these games. That's what really put
put him on the map. And then you started to

(02:17:31):
see the highlight film of this guy and you're like, oh,
my goodness, gracious, this dude is the real deal man.

Speaker 6 (02:17:37):
Seriously, CMC was just yeah, you just didn't see him
as much.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
Well, I'm I'm scoutables too. I think he's gonna play.
He's gonna have a good NFL career, I hope. So
there's too many things he can do. Okay, this he
can block. He was like, Okay, we'll get back to
him later. We signed on Friday night, November December twentieth,
which is in two weeks. We will we kind of

(02:18:01):
know who as us next to all will be. Let's
baseball call in that night. We'll talk about it, beautiful,
or we'll talk about Saturday too, and you can also
call in Friday minnt All Right, baseball. I'm the only
major league player in history to hit two Grand slams
in one inning. Mark Ramsey, what my name? Here's the clue.
I got a son who's currently playing for the Padres.

Speaker 7 (02:18:23):
Uh A Sun playing for the Padres play hit two
home runs.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Two Grand slams same inning. Only Major League baseball player
to do it.

Speaker 7 (02:18:32):
Oh Tatis.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
Yeah, we'll give it to you. Fernando Tatis.

Speaker 6 (02:18:40):
In one game.

Speaker 1 (02:18:42):
Yeah, one inning, in one inning.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:18:45):
I think he was a Boston six.

Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
Oh my, I can't remember who was playing for. I
have to look at that. I remember what happened.

Speaker 6 (02:18:53):
Okay, nineteen ninety nine, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
What it was. Yeah, Okay, guys, let's do a hockey one.
But you guys could get this, Okay, you guys could
get this in the history of the NHL. I've had
more fights than anybody, a total of three and thirty
three fights. Now, this guy's long retired. It's got a
very distinctive name, and his first name is It's something

(02:19:16):
you do with your shoes. You blank your shoes. You
you don't have to slip on, so you have to
what do you do to your shoes? Who is it?

Speaker 6 (02:19:29):
Just yell it out.

Speaker 1 (02:19:30):
Yeah, I'll be giving you a clue to the guy's name.

Speaker 6 (02:19:32):
You tie your shoes, tie your shoes.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Well, you got that part right. Now we need to
get the name of the hockey player.

Speaker 6 (02:19:41):
Okay, who Tie?

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
Who had three hundred and thirty three fights, more than
any other Tie. He's also got a son, is No,
that's a good one. I don't think. I don't think
he ever got in fights. Luke rovertid Tie is his
first name, and he's got a son playing in the
National Hockey League now he just likes to get in

(02:20:04):
fights too. I can't think of a good clue to
give you to the last no matter what, I just
don't think I know this one.

Speaker 6 (02:20:12):
I don't think you want to give it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
You give it a shot, Mark Tie.

Speaker 6 (02:20:16):
All I have was Luke Robotie.

Speaker 1 (02:20:18):
Good enough, that's a fair guess. It's actually Tied Domey.
You guys, remember Tied. I don't go google it, man, Okay, badass, badass,
all right, guys, Really good job, brand new fool with
my name having a lot of fun. Uh and maybe
not as much fun as those first graders and uh.

Speaker 6 (02:20:37):
Oh my god, yeah those first grade I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:20:39):
I can't get my mind around that.

Speaker 6 (02:20:41):
Man, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
I can't keep my mind around that. That. That's that.
That one's going to stick with me.

Speaker 5 (02:20:45):
By the way, Tied Domie is the Maple Leafs all
time leader in penalty month and it's as well and
he's not a shock no penalty minutes in NHL history,
which is funny.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
The number one Google YouTube some of his fights. Man,
he's fists looked like a couple of pistons going back
and forth.

Speaker 6 (02:21:02):
And his son's missing some teeth too.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. Apple. That doesn't fall from does it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:10):
Go?

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
Sun Devil Somewhere? Frank Kusch must be smiling.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
I'm calling you.

Speaker 1 (02:21:14):
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(02:21:37):
Radio app, The Bernie Fraddle Show continues. I'm Bernie Fraddle.
We're coming to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports
Radio Tarret dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening
to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
back at the Bernie Fradle Show Fox Sports Radio. Come
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Las Vegas. We covered all including the other sport spelled

(02:21:59):
football he be oil. Chris has some major updates, including
crowning a new champion. It's time Chris Popfet's World of Soccer.

Speaker 8 (02:22:08):
The Greatest schools, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

Speaker 3 (02:22:21):
I ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:22:24):
It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

Speaker 9 (02:22:28):
Six MLS cups. That's how many La Galaxy has. The
champions are back. Yes, it has been a while since
La Galaxy has reached the rooftops of Major League Soccer.
It's been a long time since David Becka wore the
Galaxy jersey, or so did slats on Ibrakimovich or Luis
Hernandez or even the Great landon Donovan himself. And in

(02:22:51):
that time they have had to seed and share Los
Angeles with LAFC, the upstarts who have garnered a lot
of attention in their own MLS Cups. But Galaxy is
back on top and they have claimed their sixth MLS
Cup with a two to one win over the New
York Red Bulls. The story of the Red Bulls was

(02:23:12):
one of a lot of resiliency. No one as low
seated as seventh had ever made the MLS Cup final before,
but the dream for New York was really not to be.
They got one goal in this game in the twenty
eighth minute, but it was the La Galaxy two goals
in the first fifteen minutes that dictated everything. A fast
start to the game that would end up holding until

(02:23:34):
the final minutes as the game winning goal went to
day On Yovelek. We talked about on the previous night's
World of soccer as their leading goal scorer for the
regular season and someone who just stepped up when Galaxy
really needed them the most, slammed that home and Galaxy
is taking home the trophy. It's a bit of respect

(02:23:55):
the club has desired and for a club that was
up until the final days the RDA season leading the
Western Conference, it is pride restored.

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
They may not be lifting the supporter shield.

Speaker 9 (02:24:07):
That may go to Interer Miami, but in North America,
in our world of sports, doing a playoff tournament, knockout
tournament and winning a cup at the end of it,
that's really the real championship for an American sport, and
Galaxy adds a sixth star to their badge. Again, no
one else in MLS is close to what they have done,

(02:24:27):
and while it's been over ten years since their last
MLS Cup, it's a reminder that they're still around and
they are still.

Speaker 1 (02:24:34):
The class to really beat.

Speaker 9 (02:24:36):
They've gained back some respect in all of this by
lifting this trophy, and with a squad of some real stars,
to say the least, behind Marco Royce who was able
to suit up for this match. Maya Yoshida, their captain,
who came over the great Japanese player Joelex, which we mentioned.

Speaker 1 (02:24:56):
It's a real coup for Galaxy.

Speaker 9 (02:24:59):
It's it's a real moment for them, to say the least.
It was in totality the right ending to a very
chaotic MLS Cup playoffs that' saw Inter Miami knocked out
in the first round, that saw La Galaxy fall to
the Seattle Sounders, that saw the defending champions get the

(02:25:19):
Columbus Crew get knocked out in the first round by
New York Red Bulls. That cleared the board and set
the pieces for a new winner, a new club, and
in this case, the new club happens to also be
the old club. There was another bit of MLS news
we should talk about, and that was the awarding of
the MVP, and there was a little bit of there
was a few eyes that were raised when it was

(02:25:40):
Leonel Messi who took her on the MVP. And you
might be thinking to yourself, it's Leonel Messi, he clearly
deserves the MVP. But a lot of that conversation comes
from the fact that really only playing in fifty five
percent of Inter Miami's games is a precipitously low number
to really consider. For anyone who is a MVP in

(02:26:01):
any sport. If I told you that a player in
the NBA only played about half the games, you'd say,
no way they could be MVP. And if I told
you a quarterback only played in half the games of
the National Football League, no way they could be MVP.

Speaker 3 (02:26:14):
But that's just kind of what the impact of Messi is.

Speaker 9 (02:26:17):
I feel like there's good cases on where he deserves it,
and I also deeply respect the case that he just
did not play enough to really go for the award.
But let me go down this is that without Lionel Messi,
this thirty six goal contributions twenty goals sixteen assists, the
most of any player in MLS this season, the second

(02:26:41):
closest with probably Luciano Acosta for FC Cincinnati. But it really,
it really must be stressed that I do not believe
Inter Miami is the one who's lifting the supporter shield
or doing all of these amazing things they did in
the regular season without Lionel Messi playing these games. And yes,
maybe those numbers could be a lot bigger if he

(02:27:01):
had played more of than we're also talking about a
man who's on the tail end of things and Ultimately,
at the end of the day, we have to say it.
This has been about Lionel Messi coming to MLS. Lionel MLSI,
if you will, So it makes sense that the league
would work very hard to make sure that he gets
the trophy at the end of this and he's been
the poster child for this league.

Speaker 3 (02:27:22):
Maybe he is not the most valuable.

Speaker 9 (02:27:23):
Player as far as on field contributions before this league,
raising the eyebrows of everyone around there, trying to make
it much more of a home name to be recognized
in the world of soccer.

Speaker 1 (02:27:37):
Yeah, I could understand that.

Speaker 9 (02:27:38):
For him, he's still doing amazing things out here, even
as his rival Christiano Ronaldo does the same thing in
Saudi Arabia. Well, with MLS out of the way now
we can turn our attention back to Europe, who will
continue through the winter and into the spring. And we
have some interesting developments that happened on Saturday in that
this seems to really be the moments where Manchester City

(02:28:02):
is starting to slide. So we had heavy rain across
parts of Britain. Liverpool and Everton's Merseyside derby was postponed.
We'll see what happens there. Do I expect Liverpool to
pick up points if they ever remake this match. But
Manchester City, with a two two draw against Crystal Palace,

(02:28:23):
has seen themselves in a very bad spot where they
have now lost for and drew one in their last
six games. It is put them in a point where
we don't usually see this from City. It has lost
their keen start to the season and has now dropped
them to fourth behind Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal and with

(02:28:44):
wins With a win by Nottingham Forest over Manchester United
and a win by Aston Villa over Southampton, Manchester City
is dangerously close to falling out of the Champions League qualification.
Their manager Pep Guardiola talked about it and said straight

(02:29:05):
up that we can't even we cannot talk about the
title race at all. Forget about the Premier League title.
We've lost four games in a row and a draw,
he said quote. We'll try to recover players we'll see
in the last month, but it is a season to suffer.
We remind everyone too that Manchester City is suffering all
of this well also with over a hundred financial violations

(02:29:26):
hanging over their head being deliberated by a tribunal right now,
which could see those points shaved off even further. It's
a place we're not used to seeing City as someone
who is deep in the chase and not one of
the chase. Yes, there's been points where they've been close
and chasing Arsenal, but not to this degree where there's
quite a few points to make up on Liverpool. A

(02:29:48):
Liverpool team that looks absolutely dominant. As again, we're about
four games away from the halfway point of the season.
I don't and with the way that Manchester City is
playing and with the way they've been hurt, I don't
really see their path to getting back to this. This
will be fascinating because now we're talking about a wide
open Premier League that's going to do it for us. Bernie,

(02:30:09):
congratulations once again to La Galaxy for lifting the MLS Cup.
Congratulations a Linel Messi for the MLS MVP. And we'll
see you next time on the World of Soccer.

Speaker 1 (02:30:19):
Nail mess you there go that man again? All right,
the World of Soccer coming up? All right? I know
the good folks of Tuscaloosa by now must have rope
burns from the rosary, praying hoping, who's it gonna be?
Alabama or SMU. Coming up, I'll tell you who I
think the Committee is going to pick. I'm Bernie Frattle

(02:30:42):
or come to Lion from the Las Vegas Fox Sports
Radio Tarat dot Com Studios. Don't go away, you're listening
to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox
Sports Radio Comedy live from the tarat dot Com studios
here in Las Vegas before I go in for other
one of them. Thanks my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.

(02:31:03):
They have been with me since eleven pm Pacific time
on Saturday Night. Mark Ramsey, my technical producer, Shay Morgannguard,
my executive producer. Good job tonight, guys, turning around the Donalds,
keeping us glued together. Good job on brand new fool
What my name? Always? Plenty of fun for the whole family.

Speaker 2 (02:31:22):
All right, for.

Speaker 1 (02:31:24):
About six hours and eleven minutes away from at least
the show beginning in which the Committee will reveal to
a greatful nation who's it going to be? SMU or Alabama?
And for those of you who selectively listen, let me
say this. I'm going to tell you who I think
the committee will pick. All right, That's what I'm going

(02:31:44):
to try to do here, And let me set up
a few things. First of all, would would Alabama be SMU, Yes, yes,
I believe they would. I believe they would would SMU
this past season based on what I saw have been
in Georgia, LSU, or South Carolina or Missouri. No, I
don't believe they would have, just my humble opinion. But

(02:32:07):
guess who did Alabama? Alabama beat Georgia, LSU, South Carolina,
and Missouri. And oh not for nothing, SMU lost to
Clemson Saturday night, who also lost to Georgia and South
Carolina who Alabama beat. The accumulative record of the opponents
Alabama played this year were ninety two and fifty two,
and the cumulative record for SMU eighty three and seventy five.

(02:32:30):
These are just facts. They'll get all up in your
fields here, all right. There are objective truths, there are
personal feelings. We're dealing with objective truths here. I get it.
Obama had three losses, tied, didn't play in their conference
title game, but they played a very tough SEC schedule,
and I know people want to hate and bash on
the SEC while you're at it, just remember to remind

(02:32:53):
yourself that currently on NFL rosters, the SEC features four
hundred and thirty nine players. Of the last twenty national championships,
the SEC conference has won fourteen of them. Week in
week out. You're not gonna see a better gauntlet, the
athleticism on the defensive lines, the physicality week in week out.
It's they cannibalize each other. Okay, that's just a fact.

(02:33:14):
Am I an SEC walk Hell No, I'm telling you
these are objective truths, not personal feelings. I don't give
a horses p duit, all right. And I know you're
gonna crap on Alabama because they lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's
a good team. You're gonna crap on them because they
lost to Oklahoma. It's a bad loss. I don't want
to hear anything about bad losses. Bad losses good. If

(02:33:36):
they're bad losses, that means you have to be good losses.
And there's no such thing as a good loss. It's
like a good kidney stone, all right. So at the
end of the day, who the hell does the committee pick?
You make a case for SMU. Their best wins were
over Louisville and Pitt. I suppose the only loss prior

(02:33:59):
to Saturday, it came by three points on the road
at BUYU, a quality team, but up until just last
week was in the mix for the Big twelve title game.
And then their second loss was to Clemson, who lost
to Georgia and South Carolina of the SEC. But the
SMU did make it to their conference championship game. And
that's therein starts to offer the clue the verdict. Okay,

(02:34:25):
you never really know one hundred percent what the committee's
going to do. I don't really care what ward Manuel says.
And I would say that if they're going to honor
the integrity of conference championship games, if you're in them,
whether you lose them or not, then it's clear to
me that I'm gonna guess about within about six hours

(02:34:47):
and thirty minutes from now, the Committee will extend an imitation.
Again proticting the Committee will extend the imitation to SMU.
I believe they will be the team that finds their
way in UH. And it's you know, it's just the
way it's going to be, based on what I think

(02:35:07):
I know, based on if you put all the data
in a blender and mix it up, and again I'll reiterate.
Would would SMU beat Alabama?

Speaker 9 (02:35:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:35:15):
I don't think they would. Would the four teams at
Alabama beat this year of NOE Georgia Georgia will bet
Texas twice, LSU, South Carolina, Missouri? Would would SMU have
beatn those teams?

Speaker 2 (02:35:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:35:30):
I don't believe.

Speaker 5 (02:35:31):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:35:32):
If SMU would have played Alabama schedule, would they have
been eleven to one? No, eleven and two? I don't
think so. There's drenth to schedule. Not great, But listen,
what does it matter? Okay, this is a made for
TV event We're all going to watch regardless, and I
just think that the committee is going to follow along
party lines, and because they were college conference championship games

(02:35:54):
played Saturday, they want to maintain the integrity of that
and the dignity to that. And SMU almost took i'm
s into overtime.

Speaker 2 (02:36:00):
So there you have it.

Speaker 1 (02:36:01):
It's good. Do it for the Bernie Fratto Show. We'll
see it soon. In the meantime, keep it locked up
next to great Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio.

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