The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz discuss the College Football Conference Championships, Week 14 of the NFL & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dore listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, Buddy,
happy happy, yeah yeah, Fox Football Saturday. It's championship Day
and the old championship week going on, and we show
it last night. We'll get into uh Ashton genty and

(00:25):
what a game he had.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Boise looking really really good man, never heard army looking
really really good. Good morning.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
I've never heard of boys, never heard of him, No
such thing as Boise State. I'm just refusing to acknowledge
that UNLV loss last night. I think that's the only.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fairly dude, I was rooting for you.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I'm sitting here with the UNLV football helmet on my desk.
Got to be the only national media guy in the world.
You can say that, and like that's right. Actually legit,
cold weather, stinking Boise State, freeze out, make my night
bad that go ahead, you.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Have worked it, Go ahead, keep sitting the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sorry, no, no, I then I was rootful. I felt
so bad for you, and they just could never get
anything going. And the shame is the defense. You look,
gent runs for two nine yards and you know, God
bless him. Whatever was thirty two carries? I mean he
was he was a workhorse, but the defense man they

(01:24):
gutted it out. They that whole second half, and there
were chances after chances, uh, the big run where the
big boy runs out of gas at the whatever it was,
the five yard line, the six yard line, and then
there was a false start or actually a delay game
that pushed them back and four straight bad plays and

(01:47):
they can't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That was a big momentum.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
If you score there, you're right, you're you're like, you're close,
like they were there.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And then they had the ball later receiver was wide
open on what could have been an easy touchdown that
would have led to a seven point game with about
nine minutes to go, Gaby just overthrew them and it
was just yea, Honestly, I never make an excuse for weather,
and it's not an excuse I think this game though,
it just felt like.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, quarterback never got comfortable.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You could just you cant William he'd be never comfortable.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
You could feel it that he just wasn't wasn't at
his feet on throws. Like I've watched a lot of
UNLV football and he's he's been good all year and
it just wasn't good in this game.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
And the whole offense just they looked jarred.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
They looked like there was just a moment where they
weren't ready to hit and be hit in that level
of weather. It's just from the outside of the game,
Boise State came out with the bigger pop, and I
felt like it was over quick once this game, you know,
because UNLV, with their go go offense, likes to run
the football a lot out of those formations. Once they
were down twenty one nothing, I was like, man, I

(02:56):
don't know how you stay patient, and it just felt
like they still had opportunities. I mean, Boise State won
that football game. I still don't think Boise State is
playing well enough right now to truly challenge who they're
going to get in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
But let's see how that plays out.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
But man, because they're likely to be the four seed,
they're gonna have to play likely if everything goes away
it usually goes they would have to play probably the
five seed.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
In the first round of the playoffs in their first game.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I should say that I don't think this Boise State
team is equipped to handle what the Penn States and
Notre Dames are going to give them.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
We'll see but you know a good win for them.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, because if they match up another Dame, I think
that gets ugly.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I agree with you because here's the problem for that
is Genty won't be able to he won't be able
to get off like against.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
The other Dame. Against that defense, that defense is good.
I'm with you, brother, I feel you on that. I did.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I felt for you last night, and I'm with you.
I thought it was just the weather. I thought the
weather God bless boys. I mean, they played, they played tough,
but I thought you're right. I thought the weather psyched
him out. You brought up Williams his feet. They did
a whole thing on it like they in fact, uh

(04:13):
you saw it. They were like if whoever was doing
the doing the game pointed out about how a rat
he wasn't setting. He was his foot his feet were
all discombobulating and he had no chance on a couple
of his throats because he wasn't set. There was no
Christmas at all to the offense because he could never

(04:36):
get the pass game down.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I actually did not have the audio on from the game,
so I didn't know that, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
If I know, you watch it's funny.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
And that's the reason I brought up is you I
know you watch games with the audio off, yes, which
I think is weird, but it just it.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Depends sometimes I listened to it, but you know, last
night I just felt like more of a you know
it's going. I had the game on one side and
I put a Christmas movie on on the other intentionally
so that it was just like, hey, you know what, let's.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Good, we got we got ELF over here.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I was gonna make me laugh while I watched the game,
and I'm gonna relax every once in a while. That
was my my approach to trying to step back and relax.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So it didn't work. It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So you had ELF on with the volume yeah and
the game on?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I love you, bro. I did you know that's twisted
that you know what that is?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's a no. I like, I get it, but that's
over stimulation.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Uh yeah, unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
But here's the thing, like you're trying to feel good
about a christ like I got it. Like, you know,
there was a point where I was like should I
put this on? Because both games were out of hand,
and I was like, let me stick with you. I
really I was rooting for you, dude, if I told you,
I was rooting U NLV just for you.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
And it was funny.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm like, And it was a point where I was like, well,
maybe I should just go to a Christmas movie right now.
But I was like, now, let me stay with it.
But I was still how do you watch a movie
at a game at the same time.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
See the kids now, you know the kids today, they're
off their doom scroll and during all this stuff, like
they got the phone up and there go and go
and go and go and going in the phone. I
would rather on a game that I care about. I
want to stay away from my phone because I I
just it's just not the way I operate. So, you know,
having the second screen Christmas movie was a good idea.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I can't do that on a Raiders game. I'm too
invested on a Raiders game. I have to have it on.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
But then, sometimes, like just being honest, I love so
many of the broadcasts, but sometimes the broadcast just gets
so frustrating to me, and particularly I don't like listening
to home radio broadcast because that's too homer. But sometimes
the national broadcast in general is just not focused enough
on things that I care about. That makes it actually

(07:05):
a better experience for me. So it just depends on
a game that I don't care about at all, like
today with the with the SEC Championship, I'll have the
audio on because I love the whole house just s
thumping with the yelling and the screaming. Like actually, I'll
take the I've got this fancy first world here, but
my TV is networked into my Son's the sound bar,
and then the son No sound bar.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I network.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I make that into one network for the whole house,
and so I put the game on in every room,
so no matter where you're walking, you still hear the broadcast.
You can't see the TV. You just keep it nice
and you know, energetic in the whole I like that.
That's Son's technology. Like they don't pay me, but they should.
Sonos call me. But I've got like Sonos and basically
every room and so you know, if I get explain,

(07:51):
it's all wireless, so all you literally once you have one,
like so this is your son No. So I'll give
the world a Son's trick here it once you like,
because I have a soundbar my TV plugs into. But
then most of the other speakers I've gotten off of
like Satan, Facebook Marketplace and people selling them that don't
because if you have one new one, you can network
them with all the old ones. Basically, so I've got

(08:13):
the All you do is plug it in and then
you take an app on your phone and you're like,
I want I want the audio from this speaker to
play in these rooms. So if you're having a party,
you can literally go in and say, Okay, I'm gonna
use I'm gonna play the Fellas in the basement so
that people can get sports sports talk. But then on
the first floor, I'm gonna play serious XM Holly. And

(08:33):
on the second floor, I'm gonna play you know, pop
eighties countdown. And you can put different in every room,
every every place, you can put different sounds. So it's
my it's my I'm an audio guy. Like so that's
so this is my trick.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
But like for super Bowl, like.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I I yeah, I gotta get I need a whole
makeover you, you know, when you don't have I don't
know about you, Like there's a million things I have
to do, and I no, I need a makeover. When
it comes to my TV audio entertainment system, Like I
need a complete makeover. First of all, I need to

(09:11):
get rid of Comcast. I need to get rid of cable.
But I'm like attached to Cable and I don't know why,
but probably because they need to get my local teams.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
So that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But and I know there's other ways around it, but
I just leave a bait and then and then the
system itself just needs to be upgraded.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You know. That's to get wires. That's not good.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Oh yeah, no, okay, Look I can't even every TV
in my house. They're just hung on a wall where
the wire has to be exposed. I buy like wire
hiders that like core covers that are attached to the
wall and then the wires run into it. Like there's
not a wire you can see. That's just that's the
OCD guy, I mean with some of the Yeah, but

(10:00):
that's the funny thing is everybody says, like, what's your guilty, Like,
I don't spend money on rough like anything. I'm not
a guy that just I've got you know, I'm not
a car guy. You know, I don't. I don't drive
a fancy car. I don't have a second car. I
don't do it, like, I'm not that guy. I'm not
a technology guy with that. Like everybody's got their thing
they spend money on. For me, the one thing that

(10:22):
I spend money on is speakers, and I know that
like speakers.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Headphones, anything that you know.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I'm I'm definitely that person, which kind of makes sense
with the life that I've lived, it just makes sense
that speakers matter to me. But you got it, like
the Sonos thing is an investment. They're not cheap, so
you just sort of like, I'm the sort of you know,
trickle down.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
I'll get a couple here and a couple there.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
And then you wake up one day and you're like,
oh my gosh, I've got Sonos in every room.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
And then I'm still debate. Like they just came out
with a.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
New like Surround, like the Digital Arc that's a soundbar
that's even better and it's pricey.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
And on Black Friday, I was sitting there and I
was like, should I buy it? Should I buy it?
I was proud of myself, said no, I don't need it.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I don't I wanted it, but I didn't need it,
so you know, but I but I did find myself
sitting there saying, Okay, if I put that bar on
my main TV, then I could take the bar I
have and I can put that on my kitchen TV.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Like that's this is what I constantly do. Like everything.
Every rumor is like, oh, I can update the sound
in that room for no good reason.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, I like that. I think that's great. Actually.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
But anyway, we started with you made a point about
William's feet, right, and you were right on, And it
was funny because you didn't hear the broadcast, but they
did the same thing. So it's us. It's good and
it was. It was all because of the calls. Hey,

(11:46):
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(12:10):
here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, my brother, Uh it
was And people don't know. If people don't know, you
are a huge U. N. L. V guy, huge, you
are the biggest un l V football fan out there,
I would say, right.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, I think I think me and Kenny Maine probably
have an argument on it.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I got over Kenny.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Look at that. It'll take me up all day, all day.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I love Kenny talented, the whole thing I got. I
go Fitsy, you know, I just do. I think I
think Fitzy uh by a big margin, fifty seven point
favorite in that in that battle.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I'm taking the points.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
But I think the funny thing is, like, honestly, I
was thinking about this last night. For years covering college football,
people have asked me what's your favorite team?

Speaker 5 (12:59):
And I've always I don't have one.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
And the reason I've always been able to say that
is because UNLV.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Hasn't been relevant in the football landscape. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
So sitting there, and I've made the joke before when
I first started, like, my favorite college football team is UNLV.
So I think that proves that I don't have a
bias because who cares about UNLV. Like, I'm just being
honest from a national perspective. I did last night think
about the fact that I had so many people texting
me about that game. Because the new college football playoff

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system has made it matter, and the fact that if
Tulane hadn't slipped up last week last night would have
been even more important in the grand scheme of you know,
what's going to happen in the AAC versus what happens
in the Mountain West.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
And I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I couldn't make a pretty easy argument right now because
UNLV and Boise State certainly have had great seasons. The
path to the playoff for a team like UNLV or
Boise State is far better. It's far easier the path
of the playoff for either of those programs for the
next five years than it is for a team like Wisconsin.
It is for you know, a middle of the pack

(14:02):
Big ten team, a middle of the pack SEC team,
part of the Big twelve. Like you just think about
what's been created right now. If you are Memphis, Tulane,
you know Army, if you're UNLV, if you're Boise State.
I'm listening out sort of the teams that have or
are ranked in that group of five. Context party recruiting

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conversation has to be at this point, Hey, we have
a real viable chance of the college football playoff here
every single year, which means you will get noticed. And
that's just I wonder what the long term ramifications are
for the group of five given the fact that there's
a better path to the playoff.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I you know, it's it really is. It's so fascinating.
I love it, dude. I gotta tell you. I love
what's going on. I just I love this whole thing.
Normally I'm depressed by, you know, by by this week
because it's over and then you've got garbage balls where
nobody plays.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
And now we've got a whole tournament. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's such it's so fantastic. It feels like a real
ending to a season.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
And I agree with you on everything you just said.
And I also want to stress, and I do mean
stress this UNLV's gonna go to a bowl game. For
everyone that sat there and told me that the college
football playoff was gonna make bowl games worthless, I'll tell
you that bowl games were always only meaningful to the
fans and the players that were actually involved in them.
The rest of us areduced usion of this background noise.

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For me as a UNLV fan, knowing that they're gonna
go to a pretty good bowl. I'm still gonna watch
the hell out of it. I'm still gonna be excited
to see a bowl game with UNLV in it. I'm
still gonna take another chance to.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
See a game.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
If the bowl game is cool enough and my schedule
will allow for it, I would still try to go
to it. Like I just I think that I'm living,
breathing proof that for somebody that's not gonna be in
the college football playoff. While I am disappointed that UNLV
is not going to be in a playoff, that it
makes my travel around Christmas easier, I am gonna look
at this bowl game opportunity and I'm still gonna enjoy it.
So where are all the you know, where all the

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people that had the hot takes that bowl game season
was gonna die because I think you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, here's why I agree.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
For that reason and the fact that you got kids
staying because kids are getting paid in the NIL kids
now stay at the program, and now all of a sudden,
more kids will stay, more kids will play, and it's
more of an experience. They're going to use it more
as a stepping stone to try to get for next year.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I do I think it helps it. I think you're right.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
I hadn't even thought about that portion of it.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
That that being said, with all this bowl game in
playoff convo, there is one thing I will say, can
you imagine right now, because what we just talked about,
like UNLV seemed to melt a little bit under the pressure.
They seem to melt a pun intended on temperature, and
then they froze and under the lights, right we saw that.
Can you tell me like how disappointed NFL scouts and

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teams are right now that the college Football Playoff is
not going to include Shador Sanders and cam Ward Because
like it's another data point. If you're sitting here looking
at quarterbacks and you're saying, man, I really want to
see how.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
This quarterback looks like.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
In a big situation, big game, under the lights, say
all the pressure where they have to make the plays.
You're gonna get to see that. Likely for Carson Beck,
you're likely going to get to see that. Maybe even
for Jaln Milroe you're gonna get to see that for Quinn. Viewers,
they can go up and down the list of quarterbacks
that are going to get the chance to show that
they can shine in the playoffs, and we see how
much the NFL overvalues playoff, Like, you have a good

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playoff run as a quarterback, you'll get paid millions and
millions and millions of dollars. Right, So, just seeing like
if Carson Beck goes off in this playoff and is
the you know, respectfully, he is the Joe Flacco or
Eli Manning of the college football playoff, He's gonna get
overdrafted because of it. Right So, if I'm a team
right now that wanted to see Shaduur or Cam i

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am bombed and get that opportunity because their teams couldn't
win their way into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, I could totally say, totally say it. All right,
let's take quick t O will come right back, and
got to give Army some love, man love Army. It's
been a great season and they dominated last night.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They were an.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Underdog against Tulane and they dominated that football game. Lots
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Speaker 3 (18:45):
There you go finci mighty marks, got is covered.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
It feels so good. It doesn't feel so good.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, it's good. It feels good. I don't care what
anybody says about it. It's you just here.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
It is just like she is, why Brie, No, I'm not.
It's December everything, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
She was in my ear already saying, look, say I
decorated December.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Third, Yeah, that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well because she refuses to do November.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Yeah, which we all know that I started early on this.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I was telling pretty earlier, like, look, the inside of
my house at this point looks like, you know, a
hobby lobby explor exploded everywhere.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
There's Christmas stuff everywhere there.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
There's no doubt like Christmas is well represented inside my house.
But I will ask you a philosophical question, my friend,
because I've gone full breath at this point. Like usually
my Christmas decorations outside are out so early, it's no
big deal. Well, you know, like I got these like
wreaths that are on like a lit timer and garland.
Thing I put on my fence looks really pretty.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
It doesn't. It doesn't take a ton of time, but
it takes some time.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
But then I got to check it every day and
make sure that the refs haven't fallen that there, because
I'm a little cd that they're all still, you know,
the exact exact same spot on each of their respective
fence posts. Like I like everything to look at very symmetrical,
all of these things. I'm having this great debate now
because I haven't had time to do that. I was
thinking about doing it this weekend, but now it's already
December seventh, Like it's cold.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
It's really because.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, up in here in the North at this
point it is very coold, like both cold, and I'm
looking around and I'm like, I don't feel like numbing
my fingers for an hour to put all this stuff off,
only to have to check it every day make sure
it's out there, only to have to take it all
down in January.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Like the fact that I didn't get it up in November,
you know, because I.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Was shamed by Brie. Obviously.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
The fact that I haven't gotten my decorations up already
outside makes me think maybe I just shouldn't bother with
the outside. I think that's more for the neighbors than
it is for me. I got the inside covered.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Maybe I just keep my fingers one now the outside's great.
I mean, you should do November. You don't listen to
Brie all right.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Briefings a bully's she bullies.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I say, fight the man, all right, fight the
power or the woolman, and go November.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
All right?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Next year, next year, next year, I'll go November. There's
no doubt about that. I just don't know. Maybe maybe
I'm taking this year off outside. Maybe I do have this.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And we have spread down twenty five degrees outside.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
So is it worth going out and risking frostbite just
for some wreaths and some light?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like what are we doing here? Yes?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I see, But I will tell you this, Like I've
got I've got like the garland up on the mantle
around the zonos we talked about earlier, and then the
Christmas tree lit in the corner and everything, so like
that's the other thing, like my nights, and I wish
I could replicate this in January. Like I literally turn
all the lights off in my house and I'm just
sitting there with the warm glow of Christmas lights inside.

(21:50):
That's all that's sliding the room like that, and like
everything there's a candlelight approached to all of that, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Then she just sit there. You turn all the lights off.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Myself the other night, all the lights were off, and
I was just playing, you know, as usual, some Sinatra
Christmas in the house while I'm sitting there having like
a little coffee late at night, because you know, I'm
an animal, and I'm just listening to all this, and
I was like, man, this is good.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
This is good.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Like I wish I could replicate Christmas glow in February
when we're all sitting there and we hate winter.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Dude, I spot on, Man, I'm with you. It's my tooth.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It sucks because my favorite time of the year is
September October right then little November, and I love the holidays, but.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
The football piece of it, right, it just goes.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
By so freaking fast, and then the next thing, you know, boom,
it's the worst time of the year, which is you know,
January February.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, and it's like just trying to figure out the
way to make the same level of magic. Like I've
got a buddy that went to an all inclusive this
week and he's you know, hanging out in Mexico and
doing the thing, which is great, Like I love all inclusives,
I love great weather. I'm just like, I don't know
if I want to do that in December because of December,
I can have Christmas spirit, right, Like, I'd rather do

(23:09):
that in February, when especially post Super Bowl, where it's like, yeah,
I'm just trying to get rid of the winter blues
at that point.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yes, the February is when you need it. February is
the word, is the trash month. It sucks. It sucks.
I mean March you got the tournament, you know what
I mean, and you got the gateway to spring. Soa
March is fine, April's great, and then you know then
you're then you're rolling that.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
The only problem is football, dude. I just like it's Cole.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Seas where to go this year?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
And I'm with vactorating like I do think that this
year there's a an element to like you said, We're
going to feel an extension. And one of the really
cool things about the fact that, like last year, which
was our first year together on the fellows, as we
were sitting here at this time of the year, I
was I was trying to help you cope through like
you know, we were on the couch, you know, but

(24:12):
but now I feel like, man, the beauty of this
thing is college football season is going to end weeks
before the Super Bowl, so right when it ends is
when we're getting.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
The best of the best in the NFL as well.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I feel like this, this timing, this schedule is one
of the biggest wins for football heads anywhere, right.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
It is it is, And then we get.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
The Super Bowl mid February by the time, and then
we'll Blake will take a week and a half while
we reset, and we'll be into March madness like and
then we'll get through March madness and we'll be right
at the NFL Draft like that.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'm Tony.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
This is about to be a good spring, brother, But
winter into spring is about to feel totally different for
you all because the college football seasons extended.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yes, I do agree with that.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
I do.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I love that. I love this tournament. I'm in love
with college football. Well, I could completely love with the
change of college football. I would like the NFL just
to add another week and push back.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
That then I'm right there at selection Sunday, you know,
I'm right there right, like, it takes me right to
that point and we're close to that because that's going
to happen, so we're close to it. I just love
the you know, once you start to dwindle, like you know, like,
oh my god, we're what week thirteen?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Is that not?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I mean in that sense, it is a little bit like,
you know, just mentioning, I got a buddy that's in
an all inclusive right now. One thing that's always funny
to me when you're you know, on vacation, if you
go for like a week, I don't know if you've
ever found this, but if you go for a week,
the first couple of days, you're like, man, I can't
believe it, we still have five days left here. And
then by the time you get to.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Do you're like, oh, we only have two days left.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
We only have And it's funny how all of a sudden,
in the moment you go for I'm appreciating how much
you have left to all of a sudden, in the
moment you're thinking about the fact that you got to
go back to work right around the corner. I feel
like that's where we are at this point in the
college football season, is like we're just there's a little
mindset of like, god, I can't we're there's this level
we only have a few weeks left that.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Just sort of I don't know, it's a cloud. It
lords over everything.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I do the same thing on vacation, and you know,
it's funny.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I like the big vacation, right, Like I like to
save up all year and instead of splitting it up,
you know, like my favorite thing is to go and
I love doing a July vacation and I love going
to Italy.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Like my happy.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Place is Italy and July because I could do beach
and going around.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It's a little hot, but it doesn't matter. I like it. Right.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
So then I come back home and it's football season
right like, so it's start to camp. Like I feel like,
all right, I got thrown. And I like doing the
long vacation if you go for like fifteen sixteen days.
But then I go, oh my god, it's our last Tuesday,
it's our last Monday. It's you know, And it's funny

(27:13):
because when I go to vacation, it's like I love it,
Like I don't ever feel like, oh my god, it's
good to be home. It's good to go home, like
my father should do this to me, he said, drive
me nuts. Every year our vacation was we would go
to Wildwood, New Jersey, which is a short town, a
sea shore town, and it's got like it's like kid heaven.

(27:38):
It's got a boardwalk that's you know, a couple miles long,
and a bunch of piers with amusements and games and treats.
It's like just a kid in wonderland. And we would
go every year for two weeks, and the last day
of like we'd have one bang outlet, like the Saturday

(27:59):
before we'd we'd always go Sunday to Sunday and we
would do it for two weeks. And my father would
always be like in a happy it's good to get home,
and I would used to be miserable. I'm like, dude,
stop celebrating that you're going home, all right, because I
don't want to go home.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I want to stay in this wonderland. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
And look, it's funny. I didn't really get vacations as
a kid. We never had the means to do that
sort of stuff. And then from much of my adult life,
you know, let's be honest, like when you grow up
in the music business, it's not like you're just rolling
around a cash that yeah left over.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
So vacations were such a weird thing to me.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It wasn't until I finally got to a certain point
where I was like, I could do this, And now
you would think And maybe it's because I did spend
so much of my life traveling for three days at
a time. My idea of a vacation is not a
let's just do a quick weekend and get away. I
think those are just more of a pain in the
acid there.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't do that either.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I'm with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Like I I would rather spend a year planning the
mother of all trips and then like make that thing
the Like I'd rather take one vacation every three years,
partially because I'm a workaholic, but I'd rather take one
vacation every three years and make that thing such a
blowout vacation. It's like, yes, this was the epic trip
that that dreams are made of. Then you know, take

(29:20):
three days to go here and four days to go there,
and then it quit two days jut over there. Like
those things just exhausted me over time.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it's it's funny you said that you know, I
don't know, Like last year we didn't go. We usually
do it every other year, the Italy thing. But I
don't like the weekend trip either. If I can't really unpack,
then is that vacation?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah? If I'm just drabbing a.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Duffel bag, you know what I mean, Like I'm not
really good like I lot packing, that's not a vacation.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I love the concept of Like if I if I
duffel bagged it, then all I did was just like,
all I did was make myself more tired. I'm just
like if we're being especially if you're flying somewhere or
like look for road tripping somewhere. I'm driving right, so
like you want me to add four hours five hours
on each side of this thing?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Like, come on right, I agree with listen. I think
you're I think you're spot on there, dude, I do.
But the uh, I don't know how we got all this?
How do we get on this thing?

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Having a morning? My brother?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
We are, Oh my god, we are just the first.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Time you have listened to the Fellas, I will promise you.
Usually we get yelled at for just you know, sitting
here and only talking about football.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
The entire time. We're just having a morning of life.
It's a life morning with the fellas.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's one thing well we we do.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Usually our last segment is more fun, lighthearted, and then
we go uber sports the first two segments. That's kind
of how I like to kind of do it right,
like super serve the stories right, and then you take
a segment to kind of get in the Fitzies world.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying here.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
We got into our worlds to start the show in
the first two segments because let's face it, the UNLV
thing stung like that stung you. This was an opportunity
for you, and I know exactly how you feel because
I was a temple guy, right, I am a temple guy.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
And they had a moment. Matt Ruhle was the coach.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
They played Notre Dame on Halloween night on a Saturday
and almost beat them. They won the AAC and then
that was it. They evaporated. So I can relate to you.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Look, I think you're right, changes the whole tone of everything,
I'll be honest.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
The year the Raiders went to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
A couple of years ago and lost to Cincinnati, Like
I remember, like where I was when I watched that game.
I remember everything in that playoff game and sort of
what that meant to me. I never thought I would
get that for college football. I honestly didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I think the.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Surprising things, Like you know, when you think about growing
up as a kid in Vegas, the concept of even
professional sports ever existing just wasn't real because we were
at the time legislation wouldn't allow it. So, you know,
for me, the Larry Johnson Stacy Augman running rebels of
the early nineties, like that was my childhood and that

(32:28):
was larger than life to think that that would ever
happen in football. Yeah, there was Ikey Woods and Randall Cunningham,
but there wasn't ever a chapter of sustained, meaningful success
for UNLV football that mattered to anybody. So you know,
to think that they were on the doorstep of the
college football playoff and then it didn't happen. The funny
thing about that that you realized to be deep and

(32:48):
meta for a second, is that that means that this
particular year will be forgotten by everybody else other than
UNLV diehards, Like that one game means that this year
just becomes a Oh yeah, we were really good that year.
Had they won that game, it'd be oh my god,
we went to the first ever college football playoff. That's
such a stark difference. What do you think that's the

(33:09):
way it'll be remembered.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, your spot on, brother spot on. Uh all right,
let's think quick TiO will come back, and I promise
we've got to give Army some flowers.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Man, that was a good win last night.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
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Speaker 6 (33:30):
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Speaker 2 (33:41):
Live fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana from the ti Raq
dot com studios. So, Fitzy, Uh real quick, I mean, Army,
what a year. It's just been an awesome a lot.
I mean last night they completely destroyed too Lane. I

(34:01):
know they had a couple of chances early, a couple
of minusfield goals early, but.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
They weren't stopping Bryce and Dally and that crew. They
weren't stopping them.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I think that this Army team, too, is just so different,
you know what I mean, Like there's a We're used
to Army being competitive and not like this this. I
know they didn't play a lot of teams and they
lost big to Notre Dame, but I thought it was
a real just focused thumping last night, you know, and
it showed sort of what makes this Army team great.
It shows what makes this Army team a little different,

(34:33):
and it shows that, you know, frankly, we've been feels
like desperate, the committee's been desperately trying to just cram
too latee into this thing.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
And we got to remind it last night.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
The haves and the haves not because if you want
to say too, Layde was off after losing last week
and maybe just didn't have the same mindset that's on them,
Like both had the same thing to play for, and
Army came out and played like they gave a name
I out.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean the teams that I don't understand why everybody's
trying to bet over backwards to get him in.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Like I just didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't understand, like two lane out Miami, all the
Miami love going to the last week was a joke.
How many times do you and I talk about that.
I never understood that, and frankly.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
I wasn't surprised to see Miami take it so far down.
I do think he liked Syracuse.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
We said it last week.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And oh, by the way, can I just say I
raised a glass to Kyle McCord all right, who destroyed
army at Miami's defense last last week through for like
a thousand yards. And by the way, was scapegoaded by

(35:43):
Ryan Day in Ohio State for the Michigan game. All right,
that kid was scapegoated and he was set up all year.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
He loses the game and then they.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Scapegoated him, and then look what happened, all right, look
what happened.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, which, by the way, is a great example yet
again why the transfer portal can be a powerful and
incredible thing for the kids to have the opportunity to
utilize it. Like one program chose to throw you under
the bus, and so instead you got to go continue
doing what you love. You got to go continue playing
college football in a meaningful and packful place where they

(36:21):
valued you. And you watched the team that gave up
on you go out there and absolutely lay an inexcusable egg.
I mean so absolutely absolutely incredible, and that has such
a ripple effect. And I know we'll get into this
over the course of the morning, but think about this.
If you're Penn State a week ago when we're hanging out,
you think you have the clearest shot ever to a
national championship because you're going to be You're likely going

(36:44):
to be the five seed, right and by being the
five seed, you're gonna get home field in the first round.
You're going to take on a team that you are
bigger and stronger than typically, and then you're going to
get the four seed in the second round of the playoffs,
which is the easiest of all the opponents in theory.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
So in theory, your Pen.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
State, you have a very real path to the national championship.
And all of a sudden, you didn't do anything. All
of a sudden everything changed for you. And now you
gotta go play Oregon and if you get beat down,
and I don't think Penn State will, but now you
have risk.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
You didn't have risk a week ago.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Now because Ohio State loses, you suddenly have the risk
if this championship game goes wildly off the rails, you
can find yourself as the five seed. You can find
yourself falling lower. Like, the Committee's made it clear that
they're going to be able to adjust everybody that plays
this weekend. So if they do, if you get killed
in this game today, I don't think they will. If
you do your entire path to a national championship, it

(37:38):
gets jarringly harder because Ohio State laid an inexcusable egg
against Michigan, Like, that's wild to me.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It is wild, and I got to do it's for you.
I think it's going to happen. I think Oregon's going
to happen. Why with Penn State, I don't think it.
The match up works for Penn State. Now I hope
I'm wrong. I like Penn State, so I hope I'm wrong.
I just don't like the match up. The problem with
Penn State gets an Oregon is I think you're you're

(38:07):
gonna have to score, and they don't have the explosive
players on the outside. Look, their best player is a
tight end, and I love Warren.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
He's to a.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Great tight end.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah right, but he's still a tight end. Man.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You know, Aller's got a great arm. They have to
do whatever they can to get receivers in here. For
next year. But that's I think that's the in this matchup.
I think you're gonna have to score because I think
Oregons score.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
And by the way, you've been on this from the beginning,
and you've been right that they need an actual, viable
receiving threat to be able to threaten any.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Of these teams at the highest possible level.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So I mean, you Don'hio State if they have If
they have an outside threat, they win that game.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
And as an agent of chaos for me, I mean,
part of the reason I wanted UNLV to win last
night was just to see what the can that he
does if they're challenged, Like to see what this whole process.
I don't want college football to just work itself out
it always does. I want to I want this whole
system to be tested from day one. So I want
in this situation, I'm not rooting for against Penn State

(39:14):
despite this concept, this statement, I want Penn State Disey's
absolutely slaughtered so that we find out, like how far
do you fall in playing in your comp I want
every team that's favored in the conference championship games today
to lose, and as a result, I want the entire
system to be tested from day one.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
I got that that.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I'm all in on Clemson winning and then let's figure
out what we do with SMU. Like, because you start
punishing all of these losers in these conference championship games,
this thing could get ugly quick.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
And I just want to see.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I don't want to win for that matter.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I want SMU to get into the college football playoff.
I genuinely do. I want to see the system threaten
their challenged from will Let's push the limits on it
from day one so that we know where the problems are.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
And then to act and react quickly. Yeah, I'm Filian
Fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
I'm on.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Happy Happy Fox Football Saturday Championship Week.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
We got a couple monsters today, looking forward to those.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
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good morning, good morning, good morning, let's kind of dive

(40:49):
into today and a big day. It is the rematch
Texas and Georgia. Let's focus in on that one to
start right off the bat. I like Texas in the
first game, and Georgia dominated, right I like Texas again today.

(41:09):
I don't know what it is. I just think they're
playing better football. I don't like the way Georgia looks.
I keep looking at speaking of explosive lacking explosive players,
that's what it's Georgia team. Man, how bad did they
miss Bowers and mcconkeie. I keep going back to that.
I expect a much better performance out of Texas today, So.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Do I and Frankly that Texas defense is a bunch
of men playing college football. The Texas defense flies, They're fast,
they hit hard, they can do everything at every level
of the defense, and most importantly to me, they just
don't make a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know, so much of high quality defense at college
or the.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
NFL is about communication, and Texas does that really well
right now. Texas is running the ball better over the
course of the last month the season as well, So
there's a lot to like, frankly about where they are
at this point and the way they look now, I'm
with you.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I'm the first to admit that. I also frankly thought
that Texas win the first game and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Carson Beck playing better, He's playing cleaner football over the
course of the last few weeks. He's gotten a little hotter.
But you're right, like, how often do I say this
is the hill I've died on all year? It served
me most weeks, it will serve me. I believe in
the playoffs, I want to know what your plan is
on third and seven, because you're inevitably in big games,
in playoff games, in a championship game, in like opponent games,

(42:36):
you are going to have to have somebody that can
save you in third and manageably long down in distance.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
I don't know who that person is.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
For Georgia, I don't trust any of their weapons to
be that go to guy, and I don't trust their
quarterback to be able to do that without forcing the
football which creates turnovers. So that all of this leads
me to the other side, where Texas has a quarterback that,
while quinn Ers hasn't played as well post injury as
he was pre injury, I think he's taking a little

(43:04):
step back over the course of the year. He's playing
well enough, he's got to still got to get a
little more accurate on some of the deep balls.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
And the art and Art is going to play man.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, I mean the arts thing in the goal line
too has been interesting. Like George's got to account for that.
They've got to work on that. There's a package of
plays for Arts. So I just man in this situation.
As much as I trust Kirby Smart, I don't trust
Georgia to be able to execute at the level they
need to. I don't trust Georgia not to drop the football.
They still need all of college football and drop passes

(43:34):
this year. Like I think Texas wins this game.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
So I did too.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And one of the things that you know, I like
to go back and go all right because I liked
I also liked Texas back on the when they first
played right and it was what was that week six weeks?
It was week six, and I like Texas that I
remember thinking, like, you know, I don't know that this

(44:00):
Georgia team is not what they were offensively because of
you see, clearly they missed Bowers, clearly they missed mcconkeye,
and I went back and look at that game, and
one of the things that you see is, obviously Texas
turned the ball over four times. Georgia turned the ball
over three times, but Texas four times. Early Georgia had

(44:23):
one drive of note, if you look at their scoring drives,
their first touchdown came after a Texas fumble, so they
got a short field and took over at the thirteen
to Texas thirteen. Their next touchdown came after an interception.

(44:43):
They took over after at the Texas thirty four, right,
So you saw their field goals. You saw their points
early come off of the same thing. Then there was
a short punt, they take over at their own forty five,
They drive down kick a field goal. So now twenty
their points have all come on short fields.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
They had one big drive.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
It was in the second half and it came they
started at their eleven and they drove the field, scored
a touchdown. They were bullied by a big play, a
forty two yard reception by Dull. So if you go
back and look at it, Texas stills. Texas defense still

(45:27):
had a major imprint on the game. They just were
I thought they just were pinned down. They got you know,
when George's got short fields, you know that's they're gonna,
they're gonna, they're gonna cash in.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
Yeah, that everything you just said is so smart that
it's an important part of why.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
We have to remember game script matters and these things, right, like,
the way these things play out are far different than
the score. And there's another variable here that we're not
used to on Conference Championship Saturday, and that's that nothing
is secure for c for the college football playoff, right,
So if you are Texas and you know, we'll see

(46:05):
what happens over the course of the day, but it
does become interesting right now you're looking at it and saying, well, yeah,
we could be SEC champions. That's a great part of
this year. Great, that's fine. But the bigger part of
the conversation for you right now is that you're looking
at it and saying, hey, what you don't know is
the outcome of Oregon at Penn State. And so if
you're Texas, knowing that you kick off for in the

(46:27):
afternoon and knowing that Eastern time and that Oregon Penn
State doesn't kick off until eight pm, you still got
a shot at trying to get the number one seed,
So like there is something huge for Texas to play
for in the sense of wanting to be the top overall,
not just the SEC champion. Finds that's great to win
the SEC in your first year, Haza, but even bigger

(46:48):
than that in the way that they try to get
to a national championship.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
You want to give.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yourself the best opportunity in the first your first game,
the second round to get the.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Best opponent you can.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Texas comes out with the focus of the gods in
this one, because like there's a spot where if they
were kicking off after Oregon Penn State, maybe they would
take the foot off the gas a little bit.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
I don't think they do that in here.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
I think texas Is objective is not just to Beatia Georgia,
but they're going to try and slaughter Georgia if they can,
simply because they want to make a statement with the committee. Remember,
this is the only weekend where the committee sits together
in the room and watches the games with each other.
It's the only weekend that happens a whole year. So
a visual impression matters here. So if you're Texas, you're

(47:31):
not just trying to win twenty eight to twenty one.
If you're Texas more than ever, you're not just trying
to win the SEC Championship game. You're trying to win
this thing forty five to ten, so that the committee
walks away and says, man, Texas might actually be number one,
depending on what happens in the night game.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yes, yes, it's a great, great point. I'm completely with you.
I think you're going to want to make a statement
if you're Texas. And look, as long as you play clean,
That's why I keep going back to it. As long
as you play clean. I like him, and I like him.
I like him by some margin too. You know, man,

(48:11):
we talked about Carson Beck all year and I just
had that same like once I realized it was like,
oh man, the kids got a long way to go.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
He's not what I thought he was.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
And I haven't shaken that feeling yet.

Speaker 8 (48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
By the way, kudos for you, because you, again, you've
been consistent on this for a lot of the year.
There were people coming into the season that thought he
was going to be the first overall pick in the draft,
and you know, I think what we have to remember,
as I've said before, is that this shows you the
value of Brock Bauers and lab Maconkey.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Frankly, he looked like a different quarterback last year when
he had two guys that have come in and made
immediate Sunday impact playing with him on Saturday. And so
can he find the guy when the guy's open?

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Can he elevate everybody around him?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
And you know, even some of the people that I've
talked to around Yahoo that are talking to people in
the league have said repeatedly that around the league there's
a concept of Hey, he's he's a he's a project.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Don't take it.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Don't take him at the beginning of the first If
you're if you're telling me that Carson Beck is gonna
be drafted at the top of the second round and
somebody's gonna try and develop them into his their starting quarterback.
I understand at least rolling the dice on it. But man,
my my fear is that for some team he's gonna
go on a playoff run. Here Georgia goes on a
little run and all of a sudden, Carson Beck finds

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himself a top ten drafted player.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
That's just that's absolute franchise suicide. Like I wouldn't do
that at all.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
No, And I think, you know, here's the problem. I
think somebody's I think you're right. I think somebody's gonna
overdraft them.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
And they're gonna overdraft him.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
And I'm gonna tell you why they're gonna overdraft him
in the same vein they're gonna go, well, bow Knicks,
look where bow Knicks was taken?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, and I and he's not bow Knicks.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Also, whoever's draft in Carson Beck better have Sean Payton, Like,
I just don't believe that Bocks Bo Knicks would be
bo Nicks right now without.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Payton, I agree with.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
And it's very specifically, not just even Sean Payton the coach,
but Sean Payton's system worked. Yes, Brow next to quarterback,
like all of these things came together, and it's just.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Dude, he looks so good. He looks so good.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I was watching like it's uh Cleveland or whatever, and
you know, jameis Is. I love James. It makes me laugh.
He's he's a baller man. Touchdowns sixty yard touchdowns or
sixty yard pick six is like, you know, but just
watching it, and again, the Cleveland defense is still a
good defense, and I'm watching bow necks.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I'm going, man, the kids got it.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Man, he's got he's got a lot of he's got
in tangibles. He's he's learning the position. We could see it. Man,
he's got a great arm. It looks fantastic.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Yeah, it's there's just this moment of watching. And how
often have we said coaching and systems matter in general?
And I will remind everybody you know in my in
my previous life as a musician, I know that I
was great as a fiddle player. I was a great
fiddle player. I say that humbly. I also can't play

(51:24):
bluegrass worth a damn. And so the analogy I always
use is if you walked by and I was out
on you know, just sitting in with the band, and
somebody threw me a fiddle and they're like, hey, man,
go play. If you asked me to play a bluegrass song,
you'd walk by and you'd be like, man, that fiddle
player sucks. He's not good at all. Like that's just
not what I'm good at. But if all of a
sudden you turn around and said, hey, we need a
pop country or rock country song, where like we need

(51:45):
something with a grittier vibe, and you let.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Me rip on that.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Everybody's gonna walk by and say, oh my god, that
fiddle player is great. The fiddle player didn't didn't change.
What you're asking him to do changed. And I just
I look at that in life for every and I
don't care what you do. Like if you're a macare
and suddenly you're being asked to work on styles of
cars that you've never seen before, like maybe that's not
your bag, but it doesn't mean you're not great. If
you if you're a handyman and it's like, man, I'm

(52:10):
really good at drywall, and all of a sudden, you
you know, you buy a house that doesn't have any
drywall off, like it's all plaster. It doesn't mean that
you're not an It doesn't mean you're an idiot. It
means you weren't put in the right system. And I
just I just think we have to step back and
stop asking ourselves. And when when we're looking at the draft,
now that there's no time anymore, now that nobody has

(52:30):
patience in anything, I don't think you could just look
at it and say, who is my team drafting? I
think you have to take back a more nuanced approach
and say who is my coach, what is our offensive philosophy,
and how does this particular quarterback fit into it? And
if all of those things don't align, it's not.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Going to work.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah you're spot on, bro, I mean I think you're
spot on. Really yeah, I do so getting back to
back and in this game, I you know, so if
we extrapol and Texas wins.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Where is Georgia? Like?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
How big of a threat today? In this weird This
is such a weird. It's a great year because it's
got your chaosity and it's so hard to read. Like
I look into Oregon, I go, I like Oregon, but like,
you can't tell me that there's some overwhelming favorite. We
already saw a highow stake. It exposed Georgia. I got

(53:30):
to look at Texas. I go, I like Texas and
I like them today to win, but they're beatable.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I go back. You know what the team I keep
going back to.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
And I'm an idiot because I said this back a
couple months ago, and I do so. I do a
show at a local casino on a Wednesday night, and
it's a football show.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
You know, the brain who comes home with us.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
He and I do an hour show that looks at
the upcoming weekend card, and so we go through it
and the whole thing, and I go, dude, you know
why I like to be you know what I like
as a National championship team? Notre Dame. And at that
point they were twenty eight to one, And you think

(54:15):
I throw fifty bucks because I was there, and of
course I didn't.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So I can't make a compelling argument against Notre Dame.
And I say it that way that sounds like a
backhanded compliment.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I am right now looking like as I have the
CP rankings in front of me, I think there's a
pretty compelling argument to be made against Alabama and what
their fatal flaws. So it's pretty easy to see their
fatal flaws. Poise, I think, you know, will be exposed
at some point. Poise State. The fatal flaws of Indiana.
We don't even need to go over. SMU has fatal flaws.

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Tennessee is the team I have loved all year, but man,
do they beat themselves. Their fatal flaws are so transparent.
We just saw Ohio State and everything that can go
wrong for Ohio State. We have seen what can go
wrong for Georgia a couple of times, so that eliminates
five through twelve. As much as we're talking about who's
going to make the college football Playoff, if I'm going
five through twelve, I don't think any of them are.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
True national championship team.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Maybe they get hot at their best, maybe some of
them can win, but consistent week in week out, I'm
not scared of any of them. So when you look
at the top four, I certainly we talked about the
weaknesses of Penn State. I think this is really a
three team race, Oregon, Texas and Notre Dame. And I'm
pretty surprised that I'm saying that about Notre Dame just

(55:36):
because not because of their loss, the most inexcusable loss,
but they lost some key players on the defensive side
of the ball and never took a step back. Like
I do, think that Notre Dame deserves a lot more conversation.
I think right now, if I had to bet, if
I was told I could place any one bet on
the national championship and I'd had to plant my flag

(55:57):
on it, I'm not sure I wouldn't plant that flag
for Tech.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
But I'll give you Texas is my one and Notre
Dame is my one.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
A and that feels so disrespectful to Oregon, who hasn't
lost this year.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I out and I keep going back to it. I
feel the same way, and I don't know why I
feel that.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Now. I do think tonight.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
This is where the Oregon you know it gets flowers.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I think they're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
On the stage and I right, it's gonna be the
whole thing, and I think they were all and I
think it's gonna be an Oregon party tonight. I don't
know if it's gonna translate into the playoffs, but for tonight,
I think you're gonna see it. I'm not sure why
I'm so distrustful of them, but I end So let's

(56:48):
just go over their schedule report, I'll.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Say real quick to that point.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Yeah, my preseason college football national champion pick was Oregon,
and so I looked at this and I think that's
part of why I'm on that, Like Oregon hasn't done
anything this year to outrun the hype that I felt
like they had, and I'm not sure every week they've
lived up to.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
The hype that I thought they had.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
So I'm the I'm more than willing to admit that
this is unfair grading on a curve. Like the kid
in elementary school that was smarter than the rest of
the class that is held to the higher standard.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
That is what I am doing to Oregon.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
I am the first to admit all they've done is
is be great. And I'm looking at it and saying, yeah,
I mean that's a minus. And I really thought you
were an A plus kid, Like I'm willing to admit that.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
That's what I'm doing in my mind.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I think I got the same thing, And no I didn't.
They weren't my kudos to you. They were your preseason pick.
They were not mine. I thought they'd be good, but
I didn't think they weren't my pick.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
I picked them to beat Ole Miss So what the
hell do I know?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Homeless? No, but I mean, seriously, I mean, it's a
good pick.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I except here's the I just maybe I think the
same along the same lines. I think it's a great
count Like what you were saying about being in a
I mean a A plus, died it and really.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
In reality they're a minus.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And maybe that's why I think the same thing, because
I go I'm a little distrustful why.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
All Right, they beat Idaho, they beat Boise by three,
They roll Oregon State, they roll UCLA, they roll Michigan State.
They had that epic game against Ohio State on October twelfth,
to thirty two to thirty one game. They roll Perdue,
they roll Illinois, they roll Michigan. They crush Michigan right

(58:34):
like thirty eight seventeen and it was Routh City. They
buried Maryland, they beat Wisconsin, it was a close game,
and then they just beat and buried Washington. So it's
not like they've done anything there where I went. I
don't know why I don't trust them, But I is
their defense, Like how good is their defense?

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Their pass rush is good, I'll get them there, but
their pass rush is good? Yeah, yeah, I mean is
there defense as physical as some of these?

Speaker 5 (59:05):
I think so. Maybe the fact that I'm saying I
think so is part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Though, But you're not Texas defense.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
No, No, that's yeah, that it's an interesting question. Maybe
that is sort of the reason that that's.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Kind of where I'm at, Like, like I think their
offense is legit, like I you know, like I buy
their offense.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
I'll learn a lot about them.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
They're like, because if Penn State goes up down the
field on them, then that's what I'm that's my That's
the reason why I'm a little lukewarm on them as
the favorite.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
I don't disagree with that at all. I think you're
right if they come out and make a huge defensive state,
if they come out and win a shootout, I don't
think your opinion is going to change if they make
a huge defensive statement.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
I think that it might sort of.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, if you hold Penn State to you know, twenty
or less and you win thirty four to twenty or
thirty four seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I go, oh, okay, all right, you know, but Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Scores in the twenties got for a mid thirty like
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(01:01:39):
early game is an interesting game. I'm curious to see
kind of where your head is. In fact, we're gonna
be talking to Anthony Beck coming up in about ninety minutes.
Anthony is of course played for the Jets and the
West Virginia and in fact the West virgin Junior job

(01:02:01):
is open. I'm curious. I want to ask him about
that and the other thing. His son, Rocko Becked of course,
playing in the Big Twelve Championship, has had a great season.
Iowa State and Arizona State, how do you feeling about
that one?

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
That's a newon kickoff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Yeah, so this is strength on weakness on both sides
of the ball. I think there's gonna be a lot
of points in this game because Arizona State right now
is run of the football, absolutely incredible, scatabo, absolutely on fire.
Iowa State's run defense is not good. Conversely, Iowa State's
got two thousand yard receivers. You just mentioned the fact

(01:02:42):
that beck is playing lights out, which he is, and
Arizona State the back of their defense can get got right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
So this is a little bit of These are two
teams that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
I think are really evenly matched up, but they're both
a bad matchup for each other. So I think it's
kind of interesting to see how this plays out. It's
just gonna have to be able to handle and you
know this, I'm sure coach is gonna reference this like,
you want to win games like this, You've got to
be able to at least slow down the run. I
think Iowa States defense is just gonna have to show up.

(01:03:11):
They're gonna have to figure out creative scheme ways to
stop Scatamo from just scattering all over the place.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
If they can do that, they can win this game.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
But that's a that's a tall If I'm Arizona State, man,
I just I want to hand the ball off as
much as possible. I want to find cute little ways
out of the backfield to get Scatambo of the ball.
I want to control time of possession. I want to
do all of those things. If I'm Iowa State, I'm
sneaky explosive in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, I dude, I it's funny kind of right. It
the same way where And I do think there's gonna
be big points in this game, and it'll be interesting
to see who gets stops, because I think this game
is all gonna be about that exactly, that can they
get stops? And I tell you, man, I always States

(01:03:55):
are greats through both great stories, right, It's it's really
it's gonna be a really good game too.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
And by the way, I know they're currently fifteen and sixteen, respectively,
but one of these teams is likely to end up well.
One of these teams, probably, barring what happens with Clemson,
will end up the twelve seed in the playoffs. I
believe both of these teams can create a nightmare for
some of the other playoff teams. Like this is, Arizona

(01:04:22):
State and Iowa State are better teams than they're getting
credit for from the committee. I think that in the
world of valuing the South Carolinas and all misses of
the world, which is fine, nothing against the SEC all in,
that's fine, don't come at me SEC people. I just
think that maybe they've slept on West Coast football a
little bit. With Arizona State, who's particularly hot, and I

(01:04:42):
don't know that I always Tate ever gets a level
of attention that they likely deserve. So both of these
teams get into the College Football Playoff, both of these
teams create a situation for whoever they play in the
first round.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
When you look at and then of course when you
go up to tonight talked about Oregon Penn State, but
obviously SMU Clemson.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Will have the other. That's the other piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And then once that plays out, it's all right where
we're at now you kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It seems like you're leanings.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Like no, no no, I like SMBU. I want look,
I want Clemson to win only because I want to
see pure chaos and because I want to challenge the
entire process of college football conference championship games. I genuinely,
loudly believe that the college football championship games should not
count as a win or a loss. I believe that

(01:05:35):
the loser should not be punished wherever they are ranked.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Coming.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
If the committee today believes that SMU, as it stands
right now, is better than Alabama, then I don't see
how you can suddenly punish them for playing this game
when Alabama is not playing in a conference championship game,
unless you want to give teams the opportunity to simply
bypass the game and refuse the invite.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
I don't think you can punish a team for going
to the conference championship game.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
So I hate a system that would see SMU upset
and then suddenly it's like, well, you were I get
if you weren't, if you're if you're out of the
conversation completely fine, but you want to tell me that
currently you think that this team is better than Alabama
but then because they lose to Clemson a game they're
forced to play in that they're now not as good
as Alabama.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Like, I have a hard time with that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
So I want to see it just because I want
to challenge the entire notion and I want to see
how the committee handles it. I want to know for
sure how this all moves forward. I think SMU wins
this football. SMU being a little undervalued in this process,
I think they were. Yeah, I think so instincts this year, by.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
The way, you and I see it the same way.

Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
Man, you and I see the exact same way. You
know what's going to be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Tomorrow is going to be the show and we'll find out,
you know what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Where are you at? Like, where are you at with it?

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
With with the the entire process is Look this this
should have been something we could have seen coming to me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Having a committee that ranks the top.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Twelve, but the top twelve don't actually get in, and
then having seating on top of all of this, and
having a system that, my god, every single week Rhees Davis.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Has to explain it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
And you know, we still have people that are wildly
confused and casual fans that are confused, and you know,
I think the system as it was set up feels
like the first time you play a new board game
with your friends and you know, you sit down, You're.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Like, I got this really easy board game. I'm gonna
explain it to you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
My eyes gloss over in like two minutes, and I'm like, man,
I got nothing. I no longer know what you're talking about.
And that's how I feel every single week when I watch,
just like we do our Yahoo the College Football Power Hour,
we tape our Tuesday show right after the playoff, and
like we're sitting here taking notes throughout the course of it, saying, Okay,
so this matchup would be this, and this would be this.

(01:07:59):
Having a system that confusing is something they should have
seen coming and should have said, hey, this isn't a
good idea. So I hate that portion of it. I,
like I said, I hate that we're already sitting here
looking at some of these teams, Like I anticipated the
possibility of bid thieves, but there's a difference between sixty
four teams in the NCAA tournament and a bid thief,
you know, for a small school versus you know there's

(01:08:21):
even a difference to me in some ways of UNLV
stealing BYU or BYU.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Boise states bid feels.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Different to me than SMU suddenly getting knocked out of
the thing. Like, I have a really hard time with
the way this is laid out, and I think they
should have done a better job of anticipating the improper
chaos that they were creating.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
What do you think the offsheat's going to be because
everybody agrees, like it's still you're sitting here going all right,
it's got to be tweaked. They know it has to
be tweaked.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Yeah, I think they're gonna use all of this to
get to sixteen. Yeah, they're gonna use all this. But
the one thing I will say it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Should be, but I'll be honest with you, it should
be sixteen. Thiss just a number.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Totally agree, but I will be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I said a few months ago that my number one
concern little inside baseball here. But when I was working
at ESPN, we would go in on our show because
a bunch of us on radio worked in college football.
We would go in on our show and have these
big college football takes, and the bosses are going to say, yeah,
nobody cares. And in fact, if you are regular listener

(01:09:25):
to Pat McAfee, he's explained this on his show as well,
like that, as much as he loves college football, the
numbers show that when you start talking about college football
sometimes people just gloss over. They don't care about. At
the same level, this is all real studied metrics. My
biggest concern with the expansion of the playoffs was that
the committee was giving us a reason to talk every
Tuesday and Wednesday, who were.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
The top four teams? Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
And I was concerned by going to twelve that that
drama would end. Instead, I was wrong. Instead, now what
do we see even more? My god, Like, as I
was flipping through watching a Little Get Up the other day,
like all get Up was talking about, you know, frankly,
this college football playoff ranking over and over and over again,
like Tuesdays and Wednesdays have been even more polarizing because

(01:10:07):
does Alabama still get in? So I was completely wrong
about it. Every time we expand though, that's going to
be my big concern It is like, what does this
mean for the overall conversation for casuals because I do
think casual conversation helps grow sport. So that's that's my
one concern about moving to sixteen. I like the drama
that it's created. I just think they could have done
a better job with the twelve process.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yeah, I agree, I'm with you, I quite frankly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I still I'm still surprised they just didn't go with sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Off the bat.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
Yeah I am.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
It's just an easy it's just an easier number. It
makes sense, it's an easier number. And then you don't
you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Have to change it again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
The biggest problem and why they just haven't gotten it right, is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
They have to change it. They had to change it
at the time they.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Finally got it right with a playoff, which is it's
amazingly it took this long to figure it out, but
they fly at that piece of it right right, and
then and make sure change it because you don't even
to change it again. It's the stupidest thing in the world.
It's like the NCUBLEA tournament is perfect. I don't know
why they're talking about changing and adding to like there's

(01:11:18):
no need to make it even more bigger. I don't
get that. But you know they've had a nice perfect number.
You know they're all trying, you're all greedy bastard, so
you know they play in games and this and that,
but sixty four.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
It works, I will say too.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Like one thing that my logic was challenged on that
I did not realize when I got into this business.
I always thought, Okay, NCAA tournament, we love underdogs, we
want to see wild, incredible stories. That's what everybody wants.
Give me total chaos. And then I worked with enough
people that cared enough about the numbers. There's like, actually,
if you look at the numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
People don't really want Like people in the first round
want wild upsets.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
But when you look at championship games, everybody wants at
the end of the day, people want North Carolina Duke
for the.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
National championship in college basketball. And I didn't realize that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
And I looked at some of the numbers and went
through it with people smarter than me, and I was like, Ah,
you're right, people want upsets in the first round, but
you want some teams to survive.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
I'm genuinely curious to see what happens here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Like would the world actually want an Arizona State, Boise
State college football National Championship game.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
I think people would really want Arizona State or Boise
State to win a first round game, but to still
wake up with you know, Texas versus Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Yeah, people want big brands in championships. So I do
think that's interesting. The bigger you get, the more chance
you get of not getting that that you want in
this process.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
It is interesting. I don't get to take quick to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
We'll do that, but it's interesting that you say people
don't really want to hear about the inner workings of
college football or college basket.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Come on that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
We love the tournament, right, but they don't really want
to talk about it during the week.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Is think about Pond.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
I'll give your thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Hear because you obviously done a lot of research into
it and it really interests me. We're the fellas hanging
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Speaker 6 (01:13:17):

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
We uh I do a TV.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Film segment, right, So then we're we're into the holiday stuff.
So we were messing around with the best claymation animation.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Christmas stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Okay, so the idea of Charlie Brown came up, and
everybody agreed that among all the classics, that Charlie Brown
is the weaklink.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Do you agree?

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
So the hardest part about these things is removing your
own sentimental attachment, right, So I think that's the hard
part for people. You know, in most of our age groups,
Like there was a couple of things you have to
factor in. One pre streaming, these specials being on were
really significant. You know, you would sit down with your

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family and it was like, hey, it's a big deal
that Charlie Brown Christmas special is on. We're going to
watch this as a family. So I think it holds
a special place in a lot of people's hearts. That
being said, I think it moves slow, like it just
it moves, it moves a little slow. And if we're
comparing it to the you know, Rudolph's or you know,

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like there's no heat miser snow miser moment in this,
Like there's no island in the misfit toys in this
like it's kind of a it's a slow moving, kind
of one dimensional story. So I don't disagree with it,
but I also I feel like it has a nostalgic
place in my heart that I have to watch it.
But when I watch it, like I find myself still

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laughing to this day in the animated world, I still
laugh at like the Garfield Thanksgiving Special for example. I
don't I don't find myself like sitting there attached to
every second of Charlie Brown. So I off the top
of my head, I would agree that maybe maybe it
doesn't hold up as much as it like doesn't hold
us up as much as Rootolph for Santa Claus is
coming to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Town, or you're out of Santa Claus.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Yeah, you're without a Santa Claus or Frosty.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Those are all better. Those are all better.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah, Yeah, I will say Now it did bring a
staying like part of the lexicon of of our holiday think,
which is the Charlie Brown tree.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
The Charlie Brown tree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
As has like made it right like it used to
this day people go looking for a tree to go
and they see an emaciated tree.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
They go out to Charlie Brown Tree.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Oh yeah, well, and people still go out there and
buy small versions of that for core.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Yeah, I think the tree and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Then Chlie understood like my family, Charlie Brown Tree, Charlie.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
I also I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
By the way, if you have to explain why something
is significant, then it probably has lost some of its significance.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
I will agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
As I say this, I do think we have to
remember the fact that it was voiced by kids, which
was such an uncommon thing, gave me a real authenticity
to the way it was broadcast. And then, as many
people now know, the fact that, like I'm not a
particularly religious person myself, but the fact that the end
of that is so pointed religious, and the fact that

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at the time broadcast companies weren't sure if that was something.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
That should even be shown, all the way back in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
This whatever, the seventies whenever, that was the fact that
they had to fight to get that on air, and
then that became such a special and important, poignant moment
in cartoon American history television wise, Like, I think that
there's there's historical context to it that matters. But again,
if I'm sitting here having to explain to somebody why
that was contextually an important thing. That means the context

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has been lost, which means it doesn't have the same power.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah, that's great thought. But yeah, great point, great point.
Uh you brought it up. But I have to say,
my least favorite of all them and my least favorite character,
it's Frosty the Foghezy.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
You don't like Frosty the fugazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, frost Still, he's that's the worst of the all
the shows.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Frosty is the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Okay, so give me what you don't like about Frosty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
It's got no substance. I mean, I would have liked her.
He's gonna be a puddle.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
That's only funny. All right, This is a weird way
to tie this all in. But like when I went
to see the first Hostile movie, I love that. I'm
about to tie Frosty to Hostile. But I went to
see the first Hostile movie as a horror movie fanatic.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
I walked out and everybody's like, what did you think?

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
And I said, man, like, you got to make me
care about somebody at least a little bit before you
just start torturing them.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Otherwise I don't really care that they're being tortured. I
love that that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
That's now all I can think of with Frosty is like,
if you're just going to turn around and tell me
that like it is. You know what I didn't like
about Frosty. There's one thing that really stands out to me.
I didn't like the voice of Frosty. I just didn't
know it as as Fraust now now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
The voice, You're right, he was unlikable. Yeah, not really likable, dude, Frosty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
To be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
I didn't like the voice of the Magician either, Like,
voices are big for me. Like, look, I'm the one
person in the world that never like Space Jam. And
the reason I didn't like Space Jam the movie was
because I grew up a huge.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Warner Brothers fan as a kid.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
And the fact that they just couldn't find him per
senators like this was after the famous voice over artists
had died, and so you had a different voice for bugs,
and like it was all close, but not close enough
to work for me. So I'm a big voice guy, Like,
so yeah, out on the voice of Frosty, out on
the voice of the Magician. Yeah, maybe you know Frosty's

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squarely in the okay category.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm out real quick. Frosty, hit
me with hit me with this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
You guys did a lot at ESPN, did a lot
of science behind what people liked.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
I'm fascinated by this, and you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
What people don't listen to college football content after Saturdays,
like basically Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
The two people two days. People absolutely dive into it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I'll give you some of the Like I hosted College
Football Live for ESPN, I'll give you some of the
info on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Let's kind of dive into today and a big day.
It is the rematch Texas and Georgia. Let's focus in
on that one to start right off the bat. I'd
like Texas in the first game and Georgia dominated, right

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I like Texas again today. I don't know what it is.
I just think they're playing better football. I don't like
the way Georgia looks. I keep looking at speaking of
explosive lacking explosive players. That's what it's Georgia team. Man,
how bad did they miss Bowers and McConkie. I keep

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going back to that. I expect a much better performance
out of Texas today.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
So do I and Frankly that Texas defense is a
bunch of men playing college football. The Texas defense flies,
They're fast, they hit hard, they can do everything at
every level of the defense, and most importantly to me,
they just don't make.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
A lot of mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
You know, so much of high quality defense at college
or the NFL is about communication, and Texas does that
really well right now. Texas is running the ball better
over the course of the last month of the season
as well, so there's a lot to like Frankly about
where they are at this point. And the way they
look now, I'm with you. I'm the first to admit that.

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I also frankly thought that Texas win the first game
and they didn't. Carson Beck playing better, He's playing cleaner
football over the course of the last few weeks. He's
gotten a little hotter. But you're right, like, how often
do I say this is the hill I've died on
all year? It served me most weeks, it will serve me.
I believe in the playoffs, I want to know what
your plan is on third and seven, because you're inevitably

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in big games, in playoff games, in a championship game,
in like opponent games, you are going to have to
have somebody that can save you in third and manageably
long down in distance. I don't know who that person is.
For Georgia, I don't trust any of their weapons to
be that go to guy, and I don't trust their
quarterback to be able to do that without forcing the

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football which creates turnovers. So that all of this leads
me to the other side, where Texas has a quarterback that,
while quinn Ewers hasn't played as well post injury as
he was pre injury, I think he's taking a little
step back over the course of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
He's playing well enough, he's.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Got to still got to get a little more accurate
on some of the deep balls, and the Arts is
going to play man. Yeah, I mean the Arts thing
in the goal line too has been interesting. Like Georgia's
got to account for that. They've got to work on that.
There's a package of plays for Arts. So I just
man in this situation. As much as I trust Kirby Smart,
I don't trust Georgia to be able to execute at

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the level they need to. I don't trust Georgia not
to drop the football. They still need all of college
football and drop passes this year. Like I think Texas
wins this game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
So I do too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
And one of the things that you know, I like
to go back and go all right because I liked
I also like Texas back on when they first played
right and it was what was that week six weeks?
It was week six, and I like Texas that I
remember thinking, like, you know, I don't know that this

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Georgia team is not what they what they were offensively
because of you see, clearly they missed Bowers, Clearly they
missed mcconkeye, And I went back and look at that game,
and one of the things that you see is, obviously
Texas turned the ball over four times. Georgia turned the
ball over three times, but Texas four times. Early Georgia

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had one drive of note, if you look at their
scoring drives, their first touchdown came after a Texas fumble,
so they got a short field and took over at
the thirteen to Texas thirteen. Their next touchdown came after
an interception. They took over after at the Texas thirty four, right,

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So you saw their field goals. You saw their points
early come off of the same thing. Then there was
a short punt, they take over at their own forty five,
They drive down kick a field goal, so now twenty
of their points have all come on short fields. Had
one big drive, it was in the second half and

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it came they started at their eleven and they drove
the field, scored a touchdown. They were bullied by a
big play, a forty two yard reception by Dealt. So
if you go back and look at it, Texas stills.
Texas defense still had a major imprint on the game.

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They just were I thought they just were pinned down.
They got you know, when George's got short fields, you know,
that's they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna cash in.

Speaker 9 (01:25:35):
Yeah, that everything you just said is so smart that
it's an important part of why.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
We have to remember game script matters and these things
right like, the way these things play out are far
different than the score. And there's another variable here that
we're not used to on Conference Championship Saturday, and that's
that nothing is secure for seating for the college football playoffs. Right,
So if you are Texas and you know, we'll see

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what happens over the course of the day, but it
does become interesting right now you're looking at it and saying, well, yeah,
we could be SEC champions.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
That that's a great part of this year, Craig. That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
But the bigger part of the conversation for you right
now is that you're looking at it and saying, hey,
what you don't know is the outcome of Oregon at
Penn State. And so if your Texas, knowing that you
kick off for in the afternoon and knowing that Eastern
time and that Oregon Penn State doesn't kick off until
eight pm, you still got a shot at trying to
get the number one seed, So like there is something

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huge for Texas to play for in the sense of
wanting to be the top overall, not just the SEC champion.
Finds that's great to win the SEC in your first year, Haza,
but even bigger than that in the way that they
try to get to a national championship. You want to
give yourself the best opportunity in the first your first game,
the second round, to get the best opponent you can.
Texas comes out with the focus of the gods in

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this one, because like there is a spot where if
they were kicking off after Penn State, maybe they would
take the foot off the gas a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
I don't think they do that in here.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I think texas Is objective is not just to beat
Georgia Georgia, but they're going to try and slaughter Georgia
if they can, simply because they want to make a
statement with the committee. Remember, this is the only weekend
where the committee sits together in the room and watches
the games with each other. It's the only weekend that
happens a whole year. So a visual impression matters here.

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So if you're Texas, you're not just trying to win
twenty eight to twenty one. If you're Texas more than ever,
you're not just trying to win the SEC Championship game.
You're trying to win this thing forty five to ten,
so that the committee walks away and says, man, Texas
might actually be number one, depending on what happens in
the night game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Yes, yes, it's a great, great point. I'm completely with you.
I think you're gonna want to make a statement if
you're Texas. And look, as long as you play clean,
That's why I keep going back to it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
As long as you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Play clean, I like them, and I like him. I
like him by some margin too. You know, man, we
talked about Carson Beck all year and I just had
that same like once I realized was like, oh man,
the kids got a long way to go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
He's not what I thought he was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
And I haven't shaken that feeling yet.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Yeah, by the way, kudos for you, because you, again,
you've been consistent on this for a lot of the year.
There were people coming into the season that thought he
was going to be the first overall pick in the draft,
and you know, I think what we have to remember,
as I've said before, is that this shows you the
value of Brock Bauers and lab Maconkey.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Frankly, he looked like a different quarterback last year when
he had two guys that have come in and made
immediate Sunday impact playing with him on Saturday. And so
can he find the guy when the guy's open?

Speaker 8 (01:28:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Can he elevate everybody around him? And you know, even
some of the people that I've talked to around Yahoo
that are talking to people in the league have said
repeatedly that around the league there's a concept of Hey,
he's he's a he's a project.

Speaker 5 (01:29:09):
Don't take it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Don't take him at the beginning of the first If
you're if you're telling me that Carson Beck is gonna
be drafted at the top of the second round and
somebody's gonna try and develop them into his their starting quarterback,
I understand at least rolling the dice on it. But man,
my my fear is that for some team he's gonna
go on a playoff run. Here Georgia goes on a
little run and all of a sudden, Carson Beck finds

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himself a top ten drafted player.

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
That's just that's absolute franchise suicide. Like I wouldn't do
that at all now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
And I think, you know, here's the problem. I think
somebody's I think you're right. I think somebody's gonna overdraft them.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
And they're gonna overdraft him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
And I'm gonna tell you why they're gonna overdraft him
in the same vein they're gonna go, well, bow Knicks,
look where bow Knicks was taken?

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Yeah, and I and he's not bow Knicks.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
Also, whoever's drafting Carson Beck bet have Sean.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Payton like I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
I just don't believe that bos bo Nix would be
bo Nicks right now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Without Peyton I agree with.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
And it's very specifically, not just even Sean Payton the coach,
but Sean Payton the system worked. Yes, brow next to quarterback,
like all of these things came together, and it's just, dude,
he looks so good.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
He looks so good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
I was watching like it's uh Cleveland or whatever, and
you know, Jamis Is. I love Jameis. It makes me laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
He's he's a baller man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Touchdowns sixty yard touchdowns or sixty yard pick six is like,
you know, but just watching it, and again, the Cleveland
defense is still a good defense. And I'm watching bow necks.
I'm going, man, the kids got it. Man, he's got
he's got a lot of he's got in tangibles.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
He's he's learning the position. We could see it. Man,
he's got a great arm. It looks fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Yeah, it's there's just this moment of watching. And how
often have we said coaching and systems matter in general?
And I will remind everybody you know, in my previous
life as a musician, I know that I was great
as a fiddle player. I was a great fiddle player.
I say that humbly. I also can't play bluegrass worth

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a damn. And so the analogy I always use is
if you walked by and I was out on you know,
just sitting in with the band, and somebody threw me
a fiddle and they're like, hey, man, go play. If
you asked me to play a bluegrass song, you'd walk
by and you'd be like, man, that fiddle player sucks.
He's not good at all. Like that's just not what
I'm good at. But if all of a sudden you
turn around and said, hey, we need a pop country
or rock country song, where like we need something with
a grittier vibe, and you let me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Rip on that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Everybody's gonna walk by and say, oh my god, that
fiddle player is great.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
The fiddle player didn't change. What you're asking him to
do changed.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
And I just I look at that in life for
every and I don't care what you do. Like if
you're a mechanic and suddenly you're being asked to work
on styles of cars that you've never seen before, like
maybe that's not your bag, but it doesn't mean you're
not great. If you if you're a handyman and it's like, man,
I'm really good at drywall, and all of a sudden,
you you know, you buy a house that doesn't have
any drywall off, like it's all plaster. It doesn't mean

(01:32:13):
that you're not an It doesn't mean you're an idiot.
It means you weren't putting the right system. And I
just I just think we have to step back and
stop asking ourselves and when when we're looking at the draft,
now that there's no time anymore, now that nobody has
patience in anything, I don't think you could just look
at it and say, who is my team drafting? I
think you have to take back a more nuanced approach

(01:32:33):
and say who is my coach, what is our offensive philosophy,
and how does this particular quarterback fit into it? And
if all of those things don't align, it's not going
to work.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Yeah, you're spot on, bro, I mean I think you're
spot on. Really yeah, I do so getting back to
back and in this game. You know, so if we
strap a eight and Texas wins, where is Georgia? Like,

(01:33:05):
how big of a threat today? In this weird This
is such a weird. It's a great year because it's
got your chaosity. It's so hard to read. Like I
look into Oregon, I go, I like Oregon, but like,
you can't tell me that there's some overwhelming favorite. We
already saw a high stake. It exposed Georgia. I got

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look at Texas. I go, I like Texas and I
like them today to win, but they're beatable.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
I go back. You know what the team I keep
going back to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
And I'm an idiot because I said this back a
couple months ago, and I do.

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I do a show at a local casino on a
Wednesday night, and it's a football show. You know, the
brain who comes on with us, he and I do
an hour show that looks at the upcoming weekend card,
and so we go through it and the whole thing,
and I go, dude, you know what I like to be.
You know what I like as a national championship team,

(01:34:04):
Notre Dame. And at that point they were twenty eight
to one, and you'd think I throw fifty bucks because
I was there, and of course I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
So I can't make a compelling argument against Notre Dame.
And I say it that way that sounds like a
backhanded compliment.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
I am right now looking like as I have the
CP rankings in front of me, I think there's a
pretty compelling argument to be made against Alabama and what
their fatal flaws. It's pretty easy to see their fatal flaws. Poise,
I think you know, will be exposed at some point.
Poise State. The fatal flaws of Indiana, we don't even

(01:34:46):
need to go over. SMU has fatal flaws. Tennessee is
the team I have loved all year, but man, do
they beat themselves. Their fatal flaws are so transparent. We
just saw Ohio State and everything that can go wrong
for Ohio State. We have seen what can go wrong
for Georgia a couple of times, so that eliminates five
through twelve. As much as we're talking about who's going
to make the college football Playoff, if I'm going five

(01:35:08):
through twelve, I don't think any of them are true
national championship team. Maybe they get hot at their best,
maybe some of them can win, but consistent week in
week out, I'm not scared of any of them. So
when you look at the top four, I certainly we
talked about the weaknesses of Penn State. I think this
is really a three team race, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame.
And I'm pretty surprised that I'm saying that about Notre

(01:35:31):
Dame just because not because of their loss, the most
inexcusable loss, but they lost some key players on the
defensive side of the ball and never took a step back.
Like I do think that Notre Dame deserves a lot
more conversation. I think right now, if I had to bet,
if I was told I could place any one bet
on the national championship and I'd had to plant my

(01:35:53):
flag on it, I'm not sure I wouldn't plant that
flag for Texas, but I'll give you Texas as my
one and Notre Dame is my one A and that
feels so disrespectful to Oregon, who hasn't lost this year.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Find out and I keep going back to it. I
feel the same way, and I don't know why I
feel that. Now, I do think tonight this is where
the Oregon you know it gets flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
I think they're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
On the stage and I right, it's gonna be the
whole thing, and I think they were all and I
think it's gonna be an Oregon party tonight. I don't
know if it's gonna translate into the playoffs, but for tonight,
I think you're gonna see it. I'm not sure why
I'm so distrustful of them, but I end so let's

(01:36:43):
just go over their schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
Report, I'll say real quick to that point.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
Yeah, my preseason college football national champion pick was Oregon,
and so I looked at this and I think that's
part of why I'm met on that, Like Oregon hasn't
done anything this year to outrun the hype that I
felt like they had, and I'm not sure every week
they've lived up to the hype that I thought they had.
So I'm the I'm more than willing to admit that

(01:37:09):
this is unfair grading on a curve like the kid
in elementary school that was smarter than the rest of
the class that is held to the higher standard. That
is what I am doing to Oregon. I am the
first to admit all they've done is is be great.
And I'm looking at it and saying, yeah, I mean
that's a minus. And I really thought you were an
A plus kid, Like I'm willing to admit that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
That's what I'm doing in my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
I think I got the same thing, and no I didn't.
They weren't my kudos to you. They were your preseason pick.
They were not mine. I thought they'd be good, but
I didn't think they weren't my pick.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
I picked them to beat Ole Miss So what the
hell do I know?

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Homeless now? But I mean, seriously, I mean, it's a
good pick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Except here's the I just maybe I think the same
along the same lines. I think it's a great count
like what you were saying about being an A my
being an A plus student, and really in reality, they're
a minus. And maybe that's why I think the same thing,
because I go, I'm a little distrustful. Why I don't know,

(01:38:06):
all right, They beat Idaho, they beat Boise by three,
They roll Oregon State, they roll UCLA, they roll Michigan State.
They had that epic game against Ohio State on October twelfth,
the thirty two to thirty one game. They roll Perdue,
they roll Illinois, they roll Michigan. They crush Michigan right

(01:38:30):
like thirty eight to seventeen, and it was Routh City.
They bury Maryland, they beat Wisconsin, it was a close game,
and then they just beat and buried Washington. So it's
not like they've done anything the right wing. I don't
know why I don't trust them, But I is their defense,
Like how good is their defense?

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Their pass rush is good, I'll get them there, but
their pass rush is good? Yeah, yeah, I mean is
their defense as physical as the I think so? Maybe
the fact that I'm saying I think so is part
of the problem though, But.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
You're not Texas defense.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
No, No, that's ye. That it's an interesting question. Maybe
that is sort of the reason that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Kind of where I'm at, Like, like I think their
offense is legit, like I you know, like I buy
their offense.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
I'll learn a lot about them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
They're like, because if Penn State goes up down the
field on them, then that's what I'm that's my that's
the reason why I'm a little lukewarm on them as
the favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. I think
you're right if they come out and make a huge
defensive state, if they come out and win a shootout,
I don't think your opinion is going to change if
they make a huge defensive statement.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
I think that it might sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Yeah, you hold Penn State to you know, twenty or
less and you win thirty four to twenty or thirty
four seventeen, I go, oh, okay, all right, you know,
but Penn State scores in the twenties got for a
bit thirty like then I then I that's what my
issue was.

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get off the air. All right, Fitzy, the early game
is an interesting game. I'm curious to see kind of
where your head is. In fact, we're gonna be talking
to Anthony Beckt coming up in about ninety minutes. Anthony

(01:41:49):
is of course played for the Jets and the West
Virginia and in fact, the West Virginia job is open.
I'm curious. I want to ask about that and the
other thing. His son Rocko Becked of course, playing in
the Big Twelve Championship, has had a great season. Iowa

(01:42:12):
State and Arizona State. How do you feeling about that one?
That's a neon kickoff?

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Yeah, so this is strength on weakness on both sides
of the ball. I think there's gonna be a lot
of points in this game because Arizona State right now
is running the football absolutely incredible, scatabo, absolutely on fire.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Iowa State's run defense is not good.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Conversely, Iowa State's got two thousand yard receivers. You just
mentioned the fact that beck is playing lights out, which
he is, and Arizona State the back of their defense
can get got right. So this is a little bit
of These are two teams that I think are really
evenly matched up, but they're both a bad matchup for
each other. So I think it's kind of interesting to
see how this plays out. He's just gonna have to

(01:42:55):
be able to handle and you know this, I'm sure
coach is gonna reference this, like, you want to win
games like this, you've got to be able to at
least slow down the run. I think Iowa States defense
is just gonna have to show up. They're gonna have
to figure out creative scheme ways to stop Scatamo from
just scattering.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
All over the place. If they can do that, they
can win this game.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
But that's a that's a tall If I'm Arizona State, man,
I just I want to hand the ball off as
much as possible. I want to find cute little ways
out of the backfield to get Scatambo of the ball.
I want to control time of possession. I want to
do all of those things. If I'm Iowa State, I'm
sneaky explosive in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Yeah, I dude, I it's funny kind of right. It
the same way where and I do think there's gonna
be big points in this game, and it'll be interesting
to see who gets stops, because I think this game
is all gonna be about that exactly, that can they
get stops? And I tell you, man, I always states

(01:43:50):
are greats through both great stories, right, it's it's really
it's gonna be a really good game too.

Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
And by the way, I know they're currently fifty and sixteen, respectively,
but one of these teams is likely to end up well.
One of these teams probably barring what happens with Clemson
will end up the twelve seed in the playoffs. I
believe both of these teams can create a nightmare for
some of the other playoff teams. Like this is, Arizona

(01:44:17):
State and Iowa State are better teams than they're getting
credit for from the committee. I think that in the
world of valuing the South Carolinas and all misses of
the world, which is fine, nothing against the SEC all in,
that's fine. Don't come at me SEC people. I just
think that maybe they've slept on West Coast football a
little bit. With Arizona State, who's particularly hot, and I

(01:44:37):
don't know that I always Tate ever gets a level
of attention that they likely deserve. So both of these
teams get into the College Football Playoff, both of these
teams create a situation for whoever they play in the first.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
Round when you look at and then of course.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
When you go up to tonight, and we talked about Oregon,
Penn State, but obviously SMU Clemson, it will have the
other that's the other piece of the puzzle. And then
once that plays out, it's all right. Where we're at now,
you kind of it seems like you're.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Leaning no no, No, I like SMU.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
I want look, I want Clemson to win only because
I want to see pure chaos and because I want
to challenge the entire process of college football conference championship games.
I genuinely, loudly believe that the college football championship games should.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Not count as a win or a loss.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
I believe that the loser should not be punished wherever
they are ranked.

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
Coming.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
If the committee today believes that SMU as it stands
right now, is better than Alabama, then I don't see
how you can suddenly punish them for playing this game
when Alabama is not playing in a conference championship game.
Unless you want to give teams the opportunity to simply
bypass the game and refuse the invite. I don't think
you can punish a team for going to the conference

(01:45:56):
championship game. So I hate a system that would see
SMU upset and then suddenly it's like, well, you were
I get if you weren't, if you're if you're out
of the conversation completely fine, but you want to tell
me that currently you think that this team is better
than Alabama. But then because they lose to Clemson a
game they're forced to play in that they're now not
as good as Alabama.

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
Like, I have a hard time with that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
So I want to see it just because I want
to challenge the entire notion and I want to see
how the committee handles it. I want to know for
sure how this all moves forward. I think SMU wins
this football SMU being a little undervalued in this process,
I think they were.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
Yeah, I think so instincts this year.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
By the way, you and I see it the same way.

Speaker 10 (01:46:37):
Man, You and I see the exact same way. You know,
what's going to be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Tomorrow is going to be the show and we'll find out,
you know what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Where are you at?

Speaker 8 (01:46:51):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Where are you at with it well?

Speaker 5 (01:46:53):
With with the the entire process? Is this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
This should have been something we could have seen coming
to me. Having a committee that ranks the top twelve,
but the top twelve don't actually get in, and then
having seating on top of all of this, and having
a system that, my god, every single week Rhees Davis
has to explain it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
And you know, we.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
Still have people that are wildly confused and casual fans
that are confused, and you know, I think the system
as it was set up feels like the first time
you play a new board game with your friends, and
you know, you sit down and.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
You're like, I got this really easy board game. I'm
gonna explain it to you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
My eyes gloss over in like two minutes, and I'm like, man,
I got nothing. I no longer know what you're talking about.
And that's how I feel every single week when I
watch this, Like we do our Yahoo the College Football
Power Hour, we tape our Tuesday show right after the playoff,
and like we're sitting here taking notes throughout the course
of it, saying, Okay, so this matchup would be this,

(01:47:53):
and this would be this. Having a system that confusing
is something they should have seen coming and should.

Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
Have said, hey, this isn't a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
So I hate that portion of it. I, like I said,
I hate that we're already sitting here looking at some
of these teams, Like I anticipated the possibility of bid thieves,
but there's a difference between sixty four teams in the
NCAA tournament and a bid thief, you know, for a
small school versus you know, there's even a difference to
me in some ways of UNLV stealing BYU or BYU.
Boise states bid feels different to me than SMU suddenly

(01:48:25):
getting knocked out of this thing. Like, I have a
really hard time with the way this is laid out,
and I think they should have done a better job
of anticipating the improper chaos that they were creating.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
What do you think the offsheet's going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Because everybody agrees, like it's still you're sitting here going
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
It's got to be tweaked. They know it has to
be tweaked.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
I think they're gonna use all of this to get
to sixteen. Yeah, they're gonna use all this. But the
one thing I will say, and it should.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
Be but I'll be honest with you, it should be sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
It's just a perfect number to really agree, but I
will be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
I he said a few months ago that my number
one concern little inside baseball here. But when I was
working at ESPN, we would go in on our show
because a bunch of us on radio worked in college football.
We would go in on our show and have these
big college football takes, and the bosses are going to say, yeah,
nobody cares. And in fact, if you are regular listener

(01:49:20):
to Pat McAfee. He's explained this on his show as well,
like that, as much as he loves college football, the
numbers show that when you start talking about college football
sometimes people just gloss over. They don't care about. At
the same level, this is all real studied metrics. My
biggest concern with the expansion of the playoffs was that
the committee was giving us a reason to talk every
Tuesday and Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Who were the top four teams? Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
And I was concerned by going to twelve that that
drama would end.

Speaker 5 (01:49:46):
Instead, I was wrong. Instead, now what do we see
even more?

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
My God, Like, as I was flipping through watching a
Little Get Up the other day, like all get Up
was talking about was you know, frankly, this college football
playoff ranking over and over and over again, like days
and Wednesdays have been even more polarizing because does Alabama
still get in? So I was completely wrong about it.
Every time we expand though that's going to be my
big concern it is like, what does this mean for

(01:50:10):
the overall conversation for casuals, because I do think casual
conversation helps growth sport. So that's that's my one concern
about moving to sixteen. I like the drama that it's created.
I just think they could have done a better job
with the twelve process.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Yeah, I agree, I'm with you, I quite frankly. I
still I'm still surprised they just didn't go with sixteen
off the bat.

Speaker 5 (01:50:33):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
It's just an easy it's just an easier number. It
makes sense, it's an easier number. And then you don't
you don't have to change it again. The biggest problem
and why they just haven't gotten it right, is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
They have to change it. They had to change it
all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
They finally got it right with a playoff, which is
it's amazingly it took this long to figure it out,
but they finally got that piece of it right. And
then and make sure change it because you don't even
to change it again. It's the stupidest thing in the world.
It's like the NCAA tournament is perfect. I don't know
why they're talking about changing and adding to like there's

(01:51:14):
no need to make it even more bigger. I don't
get that. But you know they've had a nice, perfect number.
You know they're all trying. You're all greedy bastard so
you know they playing games and this and that, but
sixty four it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
Works, I will say too.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
Like one thing that my logic was challenged on that
I did not realize when I got into this business.
I always thought, Okay, NCAA tournament, we love underdogs, we
want to see wild, incredible stories. That's what everybody wants.
Give me total chaos. And then I worked with enough
people that cared enough about the numbers. There's like, actually,
if you look at the numbers, people don't really want

(01:51:55):
like people in the first round want wild upsets, But
when you look at championship games, everybody wants at the
end of the day, people want North Carolina Duke for the.

Speaker 5 (01:52:04):
National championship in college basketball. And I didn't realize that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
And I looked at some of the numbers and went
through it with people smarter than me, and I was like, Ah,
you're right, people want upsets in the first round, but
you want some teams to survive. I'm genuinely curious to
see what happens here, Like would the world actually want
an Arizona State Boise State college football national championship? I
don't know the answer to that, I think people would
really want Arizona State or Boise State to win a

(01:52:27):
first round game, but to still wake up with, you know,
Texas versus Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (01:52:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Yeah, people want big brands in championships. So I do
think that's interesting. The bigger you get, the more chance
you get of not getting that that you want in
this process.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
It is interesting. I don't get to take quick to you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
We'll do that, but it's interesting that you say people
don't really want to hear about the inner workings of
college football or college basketball. That we love the tournament, right,
but they don't really want to talk about it during
the week.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Is think about it? Ponder.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
I'll give you thoughts on that I want to hear because.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
You obviously done a lot of research into it and
it really interests me. We're the fellas hanging out right
here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Live Fellas from the tire Rack dot com studios. We uh,
I do a TV film segment, right, so then we're
we're into the holiday stuff. So we were messing around
with the best claymation animation Christmas stuff, right, Okay, so

(01:53:49):
the idea of Charlie Brown came up, and everybody agreed
that among all the classics, that Charlie Brown is the
weekly think do you agree?

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
So the hardest part about these things is removing your
own sentimental attachment, right, So I think that's the hard
part for people. You know, in most of our age groups,
like there was a couple of things you have to
factor in. One, pre streaming, these specials being on were
really significant. You know, you would sit down with your

(01:54:25):
family and it was like, hey, it's a big deal
that Charlie Brown Christmas special is on. We're going to
watch this as a family. So I think it holds
a special place in a lot of people's hearts. That
being said, I think it moves slow, like it just
it moves.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
It moves a little slow.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
And if we're comparing it to the you know, Rudolph's
or you know, like there's no heat Miser snow Miser
moment in this, Like there's no Island in the Misfit
Toys in this, Like it's kind of a it's a
slow moving, kind of one dimensional story. So I don't
disagree with it, but I also I feel like it

(01:55:02):
has a nostalgic place in.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
My heart that I have to watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
But when I watch it, like I find myself still
laughing to this day in the animated world, I still
laugh at like the Garfield Thanksgiving Special for example. I
don't I don't find myself like sitting there attached to
every second of Charlie Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
So I off the top.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Of my head, I would agree that maybe maybe it
doesn't hold up as much as it like doesn't hold
us up as much as Rootolph for Santa Claus is
coming to.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Town, or you're out of Santa Claus.

Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
Yeah, you're without a Santa Claus or Frosty. Those are
all better. Those are all better.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Yeah, yeah, I will say now it did bring a
staying like part of the lexicon of of our holiday think,
which is the Charlie Brown Tree. The Charlie Brown tree,
as has like made it right like it used to.
This day, people go looking for a tree to go

(01:55:55):
and they see an emaciated tree, they go out to
Charlie Brown Tree.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Oh yeah, well, and people still go out there and
buy small versions of that for core, Yeah, I think
the tree and.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Then understood my family the Charlie Brown tree.

Speaker 5 (01:56:13):
Charlie I also I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
By the way, if you have to explain why something
is significant, then it probably has lost some of its significance.

Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
I will agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
As I say this, I do think we have to
remember the fact that it was voiced by kids, which
was such an uncommon thing, gave me a real authenticity
to the way it was broadcast. And then, as many
people now know, the fact that, like I'm not a
particularly religious person myself, but the fact that the end
of that is so pointed religious, and the fact that

(01:56:45):
at the time broadcast companies weren't sure if that was
something that should even be shown, all the way back
in this whatever, the seventies whenever, that was the fact
that they had to fight to get that on air,
and then that became such a special and important, poignant
moment in Cartoony Merican history television wise, Like, I think
that there's there's historical context to it that matters. But again,

(01:57:06):
if I'm sitting here having to explain to somebody why
that was contextually an important thing, that means the context
has been lost which means it doesn't have the same power.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Yeah that's great thought. But yeah, great point, great point.
Uh you brought it up. But I have to say
my least favorite of all them and my least favorite character,
it's Frosty the Foghezy.

Speaker 5 (01:57:30):
You don't like Frosty the fugazy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Frost Still he's that's the worst of the all the shows.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
Frosty is the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:57:40):
Okay, So give me what you don't like about Frosty.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
It's got no substance. I mean, I wouldn't like carry's
gonna be a puddle.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
That's only funny. All right, This is a weird way
to tie this all in. But like when I went
to see the first Hostile movie, I love that. I'm
about to tie Frosty hostile. But I went to see
the First Hostile movie as a horror movie fanatic. I
walked out and everybody's like, what do you think? And
I said, man, like, you got to make me care
about somebody at least a little bit before you just
start torturing them.

Speaker 5 (01:58:11):
Otherwise I don't really care that they're being tortured. I
love that that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:14):
That's now all I can think of with with Frosty
is like, if you're just going to turn around and
tell me that like it is. You know what I
didn't like about Frosty. There's one thing that really stands
out to me. I didn't like the voice of Frosty.
I just didn't know it as as.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Fraust now now the voice, You're right, he was unlikable. Yeah,
not really likable, dude, Frosty. To be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
I didn't like the voice of the Magician either, Like,
voices are big for me. Like, look, I'm the one
person in the world that never like Space Jam. And
the reason I didn't like Space Jam the movie was
because I grew up a huge Warner Brothers fan as
a kid, and the fact that they just couldn't find
impersonators like this was after the famous voice over artists
had died, and so you had to different voice for bugs,

(01:59:01):
and like it was all close, but not close enough
to work for me. So I'm a big voice guy, Like, so, yeah,
out on the voice of Frosty.

Speaker 5 (01:59:10):
Out on the voice of the Magician.

Speaker 4 (01:59:12):
Yeah maybe you know, Frosty's squarely in the okay category.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm out real quick. Frosty hit
me with hit me with this.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
You guys did a lot at ESPN, did a lot
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I'm fascinated by this. And you're saying what.

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People don't listen to college football content after Saturdays, like
basically Friday and Saturday, the two people two days.

Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
People absolutely dive into it.

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I'll give you some of the Like I hosted College
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On the other side.

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after we get off the air. All right, FITZI, it's
a big day in college football. It is championship weekend.
We saw last night Army and Boise and today coming

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up in about four hours from now, it's the Big
twelve title game Iowa State and Arizona State.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
This is gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
And we talk about the quarterback all the time, rock
O Becked, who we love.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
What he's doing?

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Well on the line with us right now, FITZI. We
got his pops. Oh, he knows a lot about the
game himself, played about thirty seven years at tight end
in the NFL after an illustrious career in West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
He of course is Anthony Becked, and good morning, my brother.

Speaker 8 (02:01:40):
And what's up Jason. Yeah, thirty seven years. That pension
is gonna look real nice here in a couple of
years from the evaculations.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Yeah, come on now, so take us to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
This is awesome, man, Rocko, what a great story he is.

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
And I know how proud you are.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
I mean, coming in it was a leaguer program, and
he wins the job. Last year, goes on this incredible
run and back at it and here they are. I mean,
this is so cool in the Big twelve Championship game.

Speaker 8 (02:02:19):
Thanks to your boy. Yeah, well, you know, first, you know,
thank you. I mean, you know, just incredibly proud of
what he's accomplished so far. I think it, you know,
it goes all the way back to you know, just
his his persistence, his work ethic. You know, he's got
a really good plan on how to prepare. You know,
he knows how to watch film. He's he's a few

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steps ahead of a lot of kids, just because you know,
he's been able to kind of put a plan in
place to really help him succeed. And then ultimately, guys,
you know, you got to go do it. Like when
you get on the platform, you got to go play.
And I think that's the biggest thing. I can't help
him in that aspect, because you know, he's got to
go out there and when the in his hand, you know,

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distributed properly, make the plays and lead his team. And
you know, it's it's been fun to watch as a parent,
as a coach, as a player, former player, you know
all those things. Excuse me. We had a late night
last night, you know with the fan base here, so
I'm trying to get to throw drum a little bit more. Uh,
thanks to the conversation. But you know, listen, it's been

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it's been great and it's a really good team, right.
I mean that you know Matt Campbell, the culture, this
is everything that. This is a guy I would play
for and it really fits Rocco and what he's about,
and he's taken and ran with it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:37):
Walk me through though a little bit of what this
moment's like for you, not just as a dad, but
also as a coach, because you're watching your kid, but
you're not as coach. You can't get in his ear.
You got to watch the game. You can't say anything
to him while the game's going on. How does that
affect you emotionally when you're watching it?

Speaker 8 (02:03:52):
Zero control? Right as a as a player, as a coach,
I can touch things, I can speak like you said too.
You know when I'm in the stands man, there's nothing.
It's a lot of anxiety. I'll be honest with you.
I mean, you know, the kid touches the ball every
place so you know, between me and my wife, it's
it's tense. You know, I try not to show it,
and for some reason they always find me on the camera.

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I've been moving around every single week in different seats,
but my big ass is always just kind of sticking out,
I guess every single week. So you know, I, like
I said, it's it's been phenomenal, you know when I
think for me, you know, I know, I you know,
obviously a ton of relationships, ton of players and teammates
that I play with in the NFL who have kids,

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and we had kids, and you want them to do
what you did, but you know, it's you never get
to that level. You know, what we did was you know,
point zero percent, zero one percent of what what you
know college players dream to do. And you know, to
watch your son do something at a level that's pretty high.
At the quarterback position, which you know, quite frankly, guys,

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is the hardest position to play. To do a weekend
and week out, to lead your team, to to help
them get to ten wins and to win a big
twelve championship opportunity and hey get a seat at the table.
Uh in the college football playoffs. It's really it's really
it's really humbling for me.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Well get you know, go through the journey with us
with Roco to be to where he's at now at
that position. Like I remember, like rockall when he was young,
right like, so you yeah, I've been friends in after
a long time and you remember like all those going
to camps and to high school.

Speaker 3 (02:05:37):
You know, how how did he get here?

Speaker 8 (02:05:39):
Yeah? Well, you know he's been around football his entire life,
right me, you know, being in the NFL, and you know,
I started a youth camp back in two thousand and
six in Philly and Tampa and West Virginia, and you
know he was like the youngest camper in that camp,
you know, the longest tenure camp camper ever to come
to those things, and it's just part of them. And
then you know it started with flag football and and

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you know it started with playing pad at football and
in grade school where you know they didn't use the
quarterback much and you know he didn't play a lot,
I mean didn't get a chance. And flag football quite honestly, guys,
for parents that are out there, I mean, you know
that was something that really can you know, from a
receiver or quarterback standpoint, can really can really develop and
help you in a certain way. Now I was a coach,

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it helped that we you know, we're running NFL concepts
in seventh and eighth grade, which a lot of kids
weren't doing, but you know, it was it's something that
you can ring with that saws doing them. When he
went to high school, you know, as a freshman, that's
when he know he got to start. He won undefeated
as a freshman year. He's he's the kid that could throw,
got around a good program. And then his sophomore year

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when he jumped up to the varsity, there was a
senior quarterback there. It was great because he was going
to get to back up a senior and really you
know understand and watch and and and just look from
afar Well, that senior the day before training camp, decided
to hit the portal and go to the biggest high
school in Tampa, and all of a sudden, Rocco got
throught sit into a starting role with the twenty six

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seniors in high school. So he wasn't developed yet, he
wasn't there, but man, you know he he really took
the stride and really had a huge season, and that
really opened eyes of you know recruiters right before kind
of COVID hit where you know, teams would come through
and check them out and see what he was all about.
And that kind of really where where it started. And

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once after his sophomore year he had another good season.
You know, he told me right right when we had COVID,
He's like that, you know, I want to know what
it takes. You know, what's it take to get stronger, bigger,
faster or smarter. I want to I want to do
it like you did teach me. And that that's when,
like you know, as a father, you don't push those buttons.
You wait. And that's when we turned it on. Man.

(02:07:43):
We got in the garage, it was COVID boxes, you know,
med balls, you know, running all this different things to
really get them right. And really also the other side
is the mental aspect, you know, mental toughness, you know
from a quarterback standpoint, guys between the ears, Yeah, that's
his knows is one thing, but you know, to be
able to forget and you know, big mistakes happen, and

(02:08:05):
really to latch onto the next play. He's great at that. Man,
He's got that feature that you know that those are
the differential factors for quarterbacks, and he's been able to
thrive off of that.

Speaker 5 (02:08:17):
I think it's interesting though.

Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
You've talked a little bit about the fact that you played,
and you played at the highest possible level. Your son
is obviously doing it at the highest level in college football.
But nil didn't exist when you played, and it does now.
Does it change like some of the approach to you know,
the urgency to get to the league. Obviously, the league
is the end goal for every kid that plays, but
do you find that there's a different sort of appreciation

(02:08:40):
for the ability to stay in play and develop in
college football now that there's an opportunity to also make
that part of your career path.

Speaker 8 (02:08:48):
Listen, no question, we talked about this. You know this.
This is a plan from day one. You know, when
we looked at Iowa State, a lot of boxes for
chefed right when you guys have watched them play. It's
a very pro style offense. Okay, he's under center, two
tight ends, three tight ends, empty pistol. Okay. They give
him flexibility at the line of scrimmage to check plays.

(02:09:11):
You know, you think about the forty nine ers in
the rams. They do a lot of those things. Man,
So you're talking about two years now twenty I think
it'll be thirteen. Last year, this will be the thirty,
So twenty six starts in the system. As a red
shirt sophomore, you see kids hitting portals and making changes

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and listen, the portal's great. I mean, coaches leave, things happen.
But when you start bouncing around for the wrong reasons
and it becomes about a bag, you're not going to develop.
So to be able to be a part of something
and grow and understand and really you know, derive into
the system that can help you succeed and ultimately if

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you want to get to the next level, start stacking
those games. Because when you look at quarterbacks in the NFL,
you know, the ones that are really successful got a
lot of starts under the belt. You know brock Berd,
he's got fifty college starts under his belt. You know
Caleb Billy, you got a lot of starts. Jayden Daniels
got almost fifty starts under his belt. Those things matter, guys,

(02:10:14):
and if you start jumping around, you get in the
wrong spot and the wrong offense. You know, it's really
going to help your your process and really help your
really take away from your growth.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
Yeah, no at that spot, man, You're so right. It's
just because there's only one of them, right, Like, it's
all about playing, it's all about feeling it. It's all
about seeing the field, reading things quickly. So much is
how quick do you process? I think that's that's really
what I'm impressed with Rocko.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Is how quick he processes things.

Speaker 8 (02:10:48):
Yeah, I'd say two attributes that stand out that are
critically important to play the position at college ultimately. But
the next level is how much do you win from
the pocket when it's there? Are you hitting it? You know,
we see all these great plays in the past. You
know Kayla Williams running onto the left side of the field,
the right side of steel door said is running the

(02:11:09):
left side field. Then they throw a ball up in
the air and they make this great play. That's great,
But did you miss the deep end, the dig, the slant,
the read that was supposed to be hit in that moment.
And then the second thing is his release. You know,
if he's off a little bit, the release is there.
I mean, he's got about its face as releases i've
ever seen. I didn't teach him that. It's just something

(02:11:30):
that he acquired and he's got it. So you put
those two things together, guys, you know, that can really
help you be successful. And it doesn't help. It doesn't
hurt to have the two only receivers in college football
anywhere that have over a thousand yards receiving. So for
all those parents that are listening that I'm trying to
help recruit to get die with State, that's where you
want to be, right So, I mean, that's that's hitting

(02:11:52):
the ball to two guys that he knows where they're
going to be, being on the same page. And to
have two receivers the only two of a thousand yard receiving,
it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
I mean, you're recruiting on air, which I love because
you're a coach at the end of the day, and
you know, the end of the day, I keep thinking
back to your journey as a coach. I know obviously
the XFL the UFL has been a big part of that.
What have you learned about yourself as a coach over
the last few years.

Speaker 8 (02:12:18):
Number One, I love this. This is my passion. You know,
this is something I'm serious about. You know, to be
a part of that league, you know, for Danny Garcia
and Dwayne the Rock Johnson to believe in me. Okay,
I wasn't on the radar guys when this league came about.
When they bought the league in bankruptcy from Vince McMahon
in August of twenty twenty, I told my wife I

(02:12:39):
was going to be a head coach in this league.
And I did it. I put the pieces, built the connections.
I got in front of the right people and I
sold the vision. And when you sell vision, guys, you
got to make sure you have a plan. When you
have a plan, you got executed well. I've won seventy
percent of my games the first two seasons. I beat
Bob Stoops twice, Wade Phillips three out of four times,
and coach has at one time in my first season.

(02:13:03):
First two seasons, and I put twenty four players in
the NFL and training camps in two years. That's the
whole entire starting offense and defense. When you do the
numbers so I can develop. I'm a great leader and
I just love helping guys, man. I love play. I
love helping players. We fill holes in their game where
they're missing. It's not just football, man, it's you know,

(02:13:23):
you put you're almost as psychologist too. A lot of
these guys, you know, it's it's in their minds as well.
And you know, I just I'm an elite messenger, man,
and I just love guiding players and helping them and listen,
I'm adamant about what I'm doing. I'm on a fast
track and I know I got to win. I know
I got to continue to build. Built a team from scratch,
no players two years ago, and I've been able to

(02:13:45):
really put a team together that can with stand a
heavy turnover because that's what our league is, and we're
building them even better team this year. We've signed a
lot of NFL training camp players, second round third round
draft picks in the last three seasons that are you know,
really had stumbles and fumbles in the NFL. We want
to help them, so just super excited about it. The

(02:14:06):
future is bright, man. I'm just going to stay the
course and you never know what's going to happen here
going forward.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
I gotta I gotta bring this out because there's a
certain university who is in the market for a coach,
and it happens to be a university that's very near
and dear to your heart. You are, mister, West Virginia.
It's open.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
I mean, I don't know, I think two plus two
eagles four.

Speaker 8 (02:14:36):
Yeah. Well, you know listen, you know, for for me
and what I'm trying to accomplish, obviously, those those places
mean are near and dear to me. You think about
you know, West Virginia, you think about the Jets, these
are two places. Quite frankly that I mean. I've been.

Speaker 3 (02:14:52):
I've been.

Speaker 8 (02:14:52):
I've been working with the Jets, not only as a player,
but immediate personality in the building. Everybody in the business
side of the New York Jets literally came in with me.
Wood he came in with me. We all been part
of It's now calling their games, you know this year.
I mean I've seen every snap for the last decade
in the West Virginia side. You're right, I mean, you know,

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I just love it. You know, you see that place
and what it did for me and the path that
was able to construct for my career. It really all
started at West Virginia. And you know, look, they're in
the Big twelve, man, and they got a chance. I
mean a couple of weeks ago, how many teams in
the Big twelve had a chance to win it like
eight or something like that. So you know, it's a

(02:15:34):
unique opportunity. It's a special place and you never know, man,
you know, like I said, I you know, it's a
place where it's kind of gotten off track a little bit.
It's gotten away from its roots. It's kind of try,
it's kind of lost its path with this whole Nil
and how they recruit and you know, Neil Brown did
a hell of a job. He did what he could,
but I think it's time they do have to go

(02:15:56):
find a person that can come in that knows that culture,
that knows that that you know, what that that place
is all about and what that fan base wants and
they're hungry and it's I think it's a sleeping giant.
We'll see, We'll see how that goes well.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
I'd love to see you, at least real quick as
a follow up, I'd love to see you, you know,
present a plan. I know you have a plan, and uh,
I know that you've been thinking about this thing. So
I'd love to see you be able to formally present
a plan.

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
As to what you would be able to do and
to really.

Speaker 2 (02:16:28):
Get back because that place needs to get back to
where it once was.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
I mean, you want to talk about a former great
you know program.

Speaker 2 (02:16:36):
I mean that's you know, when I think about the
Nebraskas and I think about the West Virginias that need
to be back in the forth, I think you can
do it.

Speaker 8 (02:16:46):
Yeah, you know, you're right. It is a plan, and
you know you got to got to you gotta have
a great mix and understanding.

Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:16:52):
You know, look, the revenue share process is all new
for coaches. A lot of these guys don't really know
how to, you know, go through this landscape as I
come from where I built, rosters I built and we
deal with the salary caps. You know, those things are
things that differentiating me from a little bit now from
the college way where you know, coaches don't want to

(02:17:12):
deal with that. You got to embrace everything, man, You
got you gotta have a plan. You gotta got you
got to have the people in place. You gotta have
a GM. Okay, you want to talk about you know,
my touch on that side of it, as far as
my reach and span of the of the folks that
I've been around. So yeah, you got to make sure
you do have it in place and have a plan,
and you've got to sell something that kids want. You know,

(02:17:32):
what's what's going to be different. If I was the
head coach in Western Down, I'll say this, you know
a little bit, we'll be a little bit more NFL centric,
right well, you know, our offense will be a little
bit more. You know, when you watch the Lions and
you watch the forty nine Ers, and you watch the
Green Bay Packers, those are the cutups our kids will
be watching. But we know how to simplify the NFL model.
And that's something right now. You don't see colleges doing

(02:17:55):
spread air raid. All that stuff's great, but is that
going to help you get to your goal where these
kids want to go. Guys in the NFL, we can
put a path together, put a great staff together. I
got a lot of staff, man, I'm telling you I
got instantaneously could bring in over one hundred and fifty
years of NFL pedigree if I wanted to. If that's
the route, you know a school wanted to go. And

(02:18:16):
now you've got credibility when you step in a room,
when you're when you're learning how to backpedal or attack
a football is a defensive back, you're learning it from
one of the best that played in the game. So
those are the kind of things that I can add
and put a superstar staff together and you know, we'll see. Man.
You know, those are just the small things that you know,
somebody like make it offer.

Speaker 4 (02:18:37):
I'll just say, I know we're up against the time. Wise,
I'll just say, coach the other elements of this. Your
son's taking on a team that's had tremendous success in
part because they have a leader that understands that program
and came from that program in that culture. Real quick,
do you believe it makes a difference in modern college
football to be attached to the place that you're coaching
with a history moving forward?

Speaker 8 (02:18:55):
Yeah, you know, listen, it's a changing environment. You know,
I think it's it's going places that nobody's been. And
you see coaches right now, you know Nick Saban and
you know Mac Brown, even though he didn't want to
leave the way he did. These guys don't like the
way the game's trending. But you know, I do believe
you know that, you know, players and getting paid all

(02:19:15):
that stuff is just it's a process of where we
are and you've got to find ways to embrace it
and and really, you know, grow from it. Is it
tough when you're paying a kid that you know didn't
have a dollar in his pocket maybe two months before
he gets to a school millions of dollars or wherever
that hellever schools do it, Yes, but can you guide them?

(02:19:35):
Can you help them? Can you give them the vision?
Can you supply them with the support staff around him
to help them learn how to save money? I mean,
these these are things that you know I've had to
do as a pro right, so you just got to
tear it down now to another level. Players have been
always getting money, you know, coaches have always always been
around it, but they've had more control. It is out

(02:19:56):
of control because at the NC double A didn't put
their hands in touch on this thing earlier and didn't
get ahead of it. But now who's got the plan
to catch up? And I do think, you know, guys
that understand the culture, guys that understand the turning the
turning points of this game, and guys that you know
have a really good plan put in place will be
the most successful. And you see it, guys, every week

(02:20:18):
teams are losing, big teams are losing. You know, SEC
is trying to spin it to act like you know
Losing three games in the SEC is great. It's not
great when you lose football games. But the depth of
Georgia and Alabama is not there anymore. Man. You know,
you keep everybody, so there's a lot of good players
out there. Yeah, so what's gonna do. What's going to
be the separating factor? Coaching? Coaches that can develop, Coaches

(02:20:39):
that can when kids sit in the room, they see
instant credibility. The days of a guy coaching running backs
that you know, oh well, he can't really coach, but
he's a great recruiter. That doesn't matter anymore. Man, everybody's
got money. It's the deciding factor is now coaching.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
Yeah, yep, I'm with you, brother. Listen.

Speaker 2 (02:20:58):
We wish you the best, to see you Morgantown, to
be honest with you, but best of luck to to Rocco.
And I really can't wait for the game. I know
it's a great thing for your family. Guy, It's always
a pleasure, my brother.

Speaker 5 (02:21:11):
We love you, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (02:21:13):
I love you too. Man. Hey, listen, if something happens
down the road, we're gonna have a live show of
the Fellas at wherever I'm at. That first year, man,
we got to kick it off right.

Speaker 3 (02:21:22):
Right doing that.

Speaker 5 (02:21:24):
We got.

Speaker 3 (02:21:27):
Love it. Thanks, brother.

Speaker 5 (02:21:29):
There he is the man.

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
There is Anthony Beck Iowa State today. The Big twelve
championship game against Arizona State coming up at noon Eastern.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
Can't wait for that one.

Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
All right, we're gonna get you tied into a betting
cycle this morning with with our Manda Brain. He'll give
us it'll take a look at the games from that standpoint.

Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
Next, Fellas on Fox.

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Speaker 2 (02:22:09):
Live Good Dean Fellas, Jason Fitts, Anthony Gargano from the
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at the weekend's card from a betting standpoint. Our man
the Brain, Brad Feinberg at Brad's Best Bets.

Speaker 3 (02:22:31):
Good morning Brain, how are you my brother?

Speaker 11 (02:22:35):
Good morning Anthony, love the Christmas music. Hopefully we have
a Christmas Field, Christmas Field, wonderful gambling day today.

Speaker 3 (02:22:47):
All right, let's get right to it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
So we just had Anthony beckt on his son Rocco
as the quarterback for Iowa State, and we were talking
about it earlier. Interesting matchup, Iowa stay, Arizona State, How
do you say it?

Speaker 8 (02:23:04):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:23:05):
Look, I was stayed invY of the team that they
got off to an incredible start, right and they were like,
I leave eight or nine and zero.

Speaker 8 (02:23:13):
I thought they were a fortunate.

Speaker 11 (02:23:15):
Team through route that stretch a little bit. I really did, uh,
And then they got in part of their come up
and sort of speak a little bit wrong, but they
look credits to inity won their last couple of games
to get in this position where they can be in
this game today. That thing said, I just try and
the lines right around a pick. So it's basically dealers choice,

(02:23:36):
you know, Arizona saying is about a one point favorite
of the scheme really is just whoever you think.

Speaker 8 (02:23:40):
Is going to win. And this is the first time
Iowa State has been an underdog.

Speaker 11 (02:23:44):
I think in a really really long time, and she's
been incredible against the number all year.

Speaker 8 (02:23:52):
Look, it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 11 (02:23:53):
A issue is still without their best receiver, Tyson, which
I think will hurt them. That being said, lean here Asu,
I thought the line should be closer to three. It's
laying less than that I think the assue wants to
close someone. I do expect this game to be very,
very close.

Speaker 4 (02:24:12):
Speaking of expecting games to be closed, it feels like
the world expects Penn State.

Speaker 5 (02:24:16):
Oregon to be close. What do you expect there?

Speaker 8 (02:24:19):
You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:24:20):
I've kind of fused around with this one a little bit.
I bet Penn State plus four at the or open
got a little nervous the more I kind of delved
into Penn State's defense and took Oregon minus three, giving
myself a little bit of a quasi middle of a
lands on three or four for Oregon. Right now numbers
sitting at three and a half. The problem to me

(02:24:41):
with Penn State when I look at them is, look,
their best players are tight end, so that credits inherently
it's harder for them to get more explosive plays than
potentially someone like Oregon. I like the over in this game, guys,
with anything else, I do think both teams are going
to score total sitting around fifty ish. It's anything above

(02:25:03):
three slightest. The slight leans the Penn State. But again,
I kind of more neutral in this game as well too,
with the current numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:25:12):
Uh, all right, Well, how about Georgia and Texas the rematch?
Uh where you're at? It's funny, man fit and I
we're talking about it. We're just I love Texas, man,
I don't know, I love it.

Speaker 11 (02:25:27):
You know, maybe this is one of these ones. Shame
on the first time, shame on new second time game
on me. It's probably gonna be shame on me again
because we I when they played earlier this year in
Texas played Texas team total was like over thirdish or
something like that, and they.

Speaker 8 (02:25:45):
Just never had the champions me.

Speaker 11 (02:25:47):
One of those games why Bull bought and quickly Beck
had is probably is the only good game, IP. I'm
even exaggerating when I say that, probably is only really
truly a good game. That game played well. Maybe in
the Albama game you played well too, I should say it.
But point being, I just see Georgia the team. I
just really firmly and I firmly believe it is not

(02:26:10):
that good. I really felt the rate eighteen nineteen point
last week against Georgia Tech Texas. One of these teams
are great. None of these teams highest loose to Michigan.
None of these teams tic football and r Okay, I can't.

Speaker 8 (02:26:25):
Stress that enough.

Speaker 11 (02:26:26):
But in this current end scheme, uh, I at least
trust Texas defense. I think they can slow down Georgia
this game. I think Texas gets to revenge again. I
think Sidney and these games.

Speaker 8 (02:26:38):
Are gonna be blowout.

Speaker 11 (02:26:39):
I don't think that, but I really do expect Texas
to women.

Speaker 8 (02:26:42):
Even actually that Texas with the money lines h and
I really believe Texas will win.

Speaker 11 (02:26:46):
That's what's pretty confident on it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:47):
You said no blowouts. I am curious what you see
in the ACC championship game because blowout it would be
absolutely consequence for SMU.

Speaker 5 (02:26:55):
So how do you see this one playing out?

Speaker 8 (02:26:57):
Yeah? The most underd uh, it's.

Speaker 11 (02:27:04):
You by one cure of three, because that's what I
can hear.

Speaker 8 (02:27:07):
I am my big Houston was.

Speaker 11 (02:27:10):
Emp me to win the a SEC. It led around
forty to one before the year, so visited the team.
I probably followed closer then team in college football.

Speaker 8 (02:27:17):
This year they made the switch to see Eplawyer to.

Speaker 11 (02:27:19):
Go to Jennings at quarterback, which I.

Speaker 8 (02:27:21):
Give the coach so much credit. I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 11 (02:27:25):
I thought it's still in the previous quarterback. But really,
like I'm good players for that, but Jennings has been terrific.

Speaker 8 (02:27:32):
He's changed the entire pone of this team, so to speak,
the day. You know, it's interesting, your schedule has been
really poor. Uh.

Speaker 11 (02:27:42):
The only team that played in the top three I
believe all year has been Louisville which day one road,
which was a good game, which is a really quality win.

Speaker 8 (02:27:52):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
Smson omously has not been a vintage club Clem's team.
I thought the line this game it opened the team
actually opened to see at Clinton is three, which I
thought was a joke. I thought, as the user, to
be about a two point favorite. We're sitting right between
two and three right now. If line is three, I
leave Clemston in the game. I think it's gonna be

(02:28:14):
very very close.

Speaker 8 (02:28:15):
I like the over. I think both teams are going
to score. I think both teams will success.

Speaker 11 (02:28:21):
It's around the mid fifties, but I really actually think
both teams in this game are to get to thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:28:26):
Yeah. I could totally see that. Hey, let's go to tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:28:33):
What pops out tomorrow for you and Chiefs Chargers is
a fascinating one. It feels like everyone has abandoned Kansas City.

Speaker 8 (02:28:45):
Listen, I left them too. I left them hoomless. I
look at me.

Speaker 11 (02:28:51):
I got to tell you this team and listen, I
give again. What's changed about like linemaking of me from
the most twenty years, I'd say from lost twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
Five years ago. It used to me what your record
was the old bill plartselves at what your record is?

Speaker 11 (02:29:09):
This to who you are, right, and that's how mindes
were made. Like, for example, this team was twenty five
years ago. Kansas City would be at least a touchdown
savor here, at least because like here's a thirteen to
one geam or twelve there. Where the record is now,
it's got more of what your record should be, not
what your record is.

Speaker 8 (02:29:26):
And Kansas City is a team that has done it.
Let's be there here.

Speaker 11 (02:29:31):
You can't tell me it's not Look, Antonio appears sad,
just kicking a field goal, runs another weird play, and
they and they and they lose the game. You can't
tell me that the skills of Kansas City. You can't
call me missing field goals and Louel Lock's missing the
twenty five years field goal.

Speaker 8 (02:29:48):
I'm just the team has had.

Speaker 11 (02:29:51):
Baker Mayfield, them beating the chiefs of Campaign overtime when
Bulls didn't go for two, I just a lot of
things were gone their way.

Speaker 8 (02:29:59):
I like the charge you're getting four.

Speaker 11 (02:30:00):
And this is again much further kick before the money line.
Sure will be a post game, but I think it
can be going down on the wire. Give me four
points and it's a team that show cannot win by launch.

Speaker 4 (02:30:13):
At what point is there a point where everything adjusts
because the team is so lucky, like from a from
a betting standpoint, that it just feels like they're kissed
by the football gods.

Speaker 11 (02:30:21):
Well, I mean, I think we're saying, in my opinion,
we're staying there really not getting a ton of respect you.
And here's a twelve and one team that is really
you know, they got the check go back, that literally
is not playing a ton of points. But I think
we're saying that this team is really not getting the
crazy respecting talk their record. I think it's deserve. I

(02:30:44):
think it's very hard for this points offense line.

Speaker 8 (02:30:47):
They have to win by Martin.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you, Hey buddy real quick,
because you're you're kind of going in and out on us. Uh,
that's right, What are you what are the what are
the games you like?

Speaker 3 (02:31:02):
Get you're on tomorrow?

Speaker 11 (02:31:04):
Well, I think the Bears, guys, with San Francisco's injuries,
I think the Bears are very live to be San Francisco.

Speaker 8 (02:31:12):
I think it's going to be a.

Speaker 11 (02:31:13):
Game that is again you're getting over a field goal
in a game that I think is really honestly close
to fifty fifty is because I really think that the
injury situation, you can't.

Speaker 8 (02:31:23):
Just go all the clubs dur injuries at all their
skilled players out there is usually get a.

Speaker 11 (02:31:28):
Little bit of a bump, guys with the coaching change,
and I think this game is going to be a
close game, and you want to get the over a
field when the game is close.

Speaker 8 (02:31:36):
I like that. I think Arizona is better than Seattle.

Speaker 11 (02:31:40):
They played the toughest sketch in the NFL at home,
laying less than the field goal. Arizona's probably my favorite
game of the week. I do think they bet on
a rematch what I lost the game I believe two
weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
There you go, areas the brain, Great stuff, buddy, and
enjoy your weekend as always, fifty appreciated Buddy, Fitzy. That
will come back, we'll go take through a quick run
through some of the games tomorrow. On the other side,
where the fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Garganta right here Fox

(02:32:12):
Sports Radio fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony gar I gotta want
to thank Brianna, our fine producer, and of course our men,
mighty Mark, our great sound engineer, who's a who he
plays it for Fitzy every week.

Speaker 4 (02:32:34):
You mentioned Brianna, a great producer, also a great Christmas decorator,
as we've now learned she's she's out there with the
people doing the Christmas decorations.

Speaker 5 (02:32:43):
We're very proud of her. The entire show is very
proud of her.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (02:32:46):
This is yeah, I'm really honored.

Speaker 4 (02:32:48):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 5 (02:32:49):
Acceptance speech would be appropriate here, this is your chance.

Speaker 7 (02:32:54):
I'm just I'm really I'm really honored that you guys,
would you know, really see the what I did as
such a big accomplishment. You know, I'm one of you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:33:03):
Now, this is huge.

Speaker 3 (02:33:05):
Oh you are a fella.

Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
Okay, dial it back. You're you're you're a fellow. You've
always been a fella. But I mean, are you a
true decorator?

Speaker 5 (02:33:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:33:12):
Like I can't tell. We haven't seen it yet. We
need pictures. We'll then make a decision, you know, Like
you don't just get in the club. You gotta there's
there's some work to my god, and I.

Speaker 7 (02:33:21):
Just gave a speech and I'm not even accepted.

Speaker 4 (02:33:24):
Well, I mean, it's it's it's just a process. It's
a whole thing. It's a it's you know, it's you're
getting there and.

Speaker 7 (02:33:30):
Now it's just hazing at this point. Now y'all are
just calling me like this is like a frat like hazing,
Like what do you.

Speaker 5 (02:33:36):
Want from me?

Speaker 8 (02:33:37):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (02:33:38):
Look, I was a fat kid that played the violin
growing up. I know something about bullying. This is fine, You're.

Speaker 7 (02:33:42):
Fine since the season, Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:33:45):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:33:50):
All fitsy real fast. Let's go rapid fire around the
NFL tomorrow. Okay, okay, all right, Saints and Giant. It's
any reason to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:34:03):
No just to see just hey, look, keep watching Derek
Carr because they're stuck with Derek Carr.

Speaker 5 (02:34:08):
He can't go anywhere, so you better hope that Derek Carr.

Speaker 4 (02:34:10):
You know, if you're the Saints, I don't know what
your hope is right now, and if you're Giants, you
just want to keep losing.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
Low and behold from nowhere, the genius of Mike Tomlin
gives Russ another life, a second life, resurrects them and
Steelers nine and three and now the sheeic favorite in
the AFC.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
I mean, as good as their defense is right now,
I have a hard time voting against them in that situation.
And look they're gonna get you know. I know Jamis
has spent all week praying to the gods to try
and stop the pick sixes. But man, I feel like
Pittsburgh's defense can feast here.

Speaker 2 (02:34:50):
I know, I know, you guys, you gotta like them
tomorrow they're late six and a half, you go, I
love the Steelers tomorrow. Vikings and Falcons like six point favorite, Uhland,
And when's your time for Panics? Is it Panics time?

Speaker 5 (02:35:08):
I think it is Pennis time now.

Speaker 4 (02:35:10):
I do think it's ironic, though, because you know, as
much as that's a weirdly used word, sometimes I think
it's ironic that very likely in a week I can't
believe they didn't flex it. Falcons Raiders is a Monday
night football game at Allegiance I wonder if Michael Pennix
makes his debut against the team that was absolutely sure
they were going to be able to get him in

(02:35:30):
the draft, which would be strange, my friends, It's strange
all the way to its core to feel that. But
I think, why do they flex that? I look, I've
even talked to people that work around the Raiders that
are surprised they didn't flex that.

Speaker 5 (02:35:41):
Nobody really has any answer.

Speaker 4 (02:35:42):
I think each team is guaranteed one primetime game, and
I'm not sure that they counted the standalone game on
Black Friday as that, so I think.

Speaker 5 (02:35:50):
I'm not sure they could otherwise.

Speaker 12 (02:35:51):
I don't know, Like just because ve Yeah, speaking of Raiders,
Raiders are in Tampa, so Tampa's somebody down south has
to take that division.

Speaker 4 (02:36:04):
Yeah, And look, this is the only reason you watch
this game is to see you know, just if you
want to watch Tampa Bay and see what it looks like,
to have some fun, and then you hope you continue
to see brock Bauers, you know, be historic, because that
is the one good Every time you watch the Raiders
right now, you have the chance to see one of
the best young players we've ever seen in the league.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Yeah, he is, he's fantastic. Eagles Panthers. Panther's playing better.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
But now if you go in the Philadelphia where the
Eagles are a fourteen point favorite.

Speaker 4 (02:36:36):
Yeah, I will say though, Bryce Young played a lot
better than I expected of late, So I want to
give Bryce a shout out for being you know, the
world was sort of against him and he has turned
it around, So kudos to him.

Speaker 2 (02:36:48):
Jaguars Titans, man, this is this is another AFC mess.
Poor Doug Peterson's out as his h that's Trevor Lawrence
Peters is going to be out for good.

Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
Uh what do you any reason to watch?

Speaker 4 (02:37:08):
I mean, Will Levis has played much better of late
than he was playing. So you know, if you're the Titans,
maybe you're looking around saying, hey guys.

Speaker 5 (02:37:16):
We we could actually have our quarterback. Maybe I don't
think something.

Speaker 3 (02:37:20):
I don't think so either. I can't fold in that trap,
in the Mayo trap. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (02:37:26):
Sorry, Sorry, Will, I got I d D upgrade Jets
and Dolphins, the dumpster fire that is the Jets.

Speaker 3 (02:37:35):
It's amazing that it just got to this point.

Speaker 4 (02:37:40):
I just hope that we all learn from it and
next year when you're trying to put the Jets in
the super Bowl for some stupid reason. Just realize that
never works.

Speaker 5 (02:37:47):
Just just say no.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
Uh, maybe the game of the day, or at least
the second game of the day, Cardinals and Seahawks. This is,
you know, for supremacy in the West, in the NFC West.
This is a really good game. I love this game.

Speaker 3 (02:38:09):
This is good. It's gonna have big time playoff raptifications.

Speaker 5 (02:38:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:38:13):
I think that's the biggest part of it too, is
like both of these teams have had inconsistent moments, but
the division is still there for both of them to
win it strangely, so you know, this is a huge game,
and frankly, I'm just looking for one of these two
teams to step up and become something that we can
bank on it.

Speaker 5 (02:38:27):
Neither has been.

Speaker 3 (02:38:28):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:38:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:38:30):
The one team out West I liked and I thought
was getting healthy but they really haven't done anything is
the Rams.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
They got the Bills coming up. This is a good game.
I actually like the Rams in this game.

Speaker 5 (02:38:44):
Well, I think I think the Bills are gonna win
this game.

Speaker 4 (02:38:46):
But I do think you make a good point, Like
we keep saying, well, the Rams are gonna the Rams
are gonna put it together. They haven't really, so this
is interesting. This is a big game for them obviously
in this spot. But the Bills, I'm not the Bills
are kind of a movable force right now.

Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
I think, Yeah, Niners are depleted. We talked about that.
They got the Bears. Shame man, they just turned down
to nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:39:08):
Yeah, and I feel for him. It's a season loss.
I also think they just seem fatigued, like this is
just the season loss. Better luck next year, San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (02:39:16):
You on the Chargers bandwagon Sunday night, like everybody the
whole world.

Speaker 4 (02:39:20):
I'm on the Chargers. Okay, wagon? Can I be on
the Chargers?

Speaker 5 (02:39:22):
Okay? I think the Kansas City Chiefs win this game.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:39:27):
All right? Look at that?

Speaker 2 (02:39:29):
And I think the Bears are fools once again for
not hiring Jim Harball, which was stupid, and the Cowboys
belonging to Simpsons. Everybody, we love you. Have a great week.

Speaker 3 (02:39:41):
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