May 22, 2024 • 24 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. Today’s episode is jam packed with Unbreakable Moments from some of the biggest names in sports and entertainment. Including Terry Bradshaw, Lindsey Vonn, Kenneth Cole, Randy Couture, David Spade and Freddie Prinze Jr.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a Mental Wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer. What a special show we have for
you today. And unbreakable, to me is such a very
valuable word. It goes to my soul, goes to my spirit,
and what it means to me is something that could
have broken me, shouldn't, but didn't, and as a result,
I came through the other side of that tuttle stronger forever.
(00:34):
And I've had a lot of talks with people over
the years with finding that moment. And you think that
moment is a moment of weakness, it's not our equity
of the things that almost broke us but didn't, and
as a result, we now know how strong we really are.
It's not a weakness, it's your strengths and we could
build on these strengths and use these strengths for the
rest of our lives. So we wanted to get together
(00:57):
and put together a conglomeration of this question, and I
asked all my guests and every show is give me
your unbreakable moment that moment when you should have gotten broken,
could have gotten broken, but didn't, and as a result.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You came through the other side of that tunnel stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And the life lessons that we have learned from our
guests with this one question has been so incredibly helpful,
moving filled with strength, and it's built our mental wealth
together like nothing else. So I hope you enjoy all
these unbreakable moments. But some of the biggest names in sports, entertainment, music,
(01:33):
the veteran community. You know, I've been trying to figure
out how do I possibly introduce this chat in the
right way. You know what, It's family, and this dude
has been part of your family for probably decades and
decades if he's been part of my family for the
last twenty years at Fox NFL Sunday. Probably most famous
for coming out with a Christmas album, I would say,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Done a couple other things. It's one and only Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everybody thanks Jay Glazer.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, thanks for bringing up that Christmas album.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's the only reason I wanted you want to It's
holiday with you?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
What's that moment in your life?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's called them breakable, that something should have broke you,
but didn't, and you came through the other side of
that tunnel and you're stronger.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There's a phrase I heard on television and a guy
by the name of Quickly Flips used it before we
sang this song. And being a guy that speaks to
a lot of corporations, or I used to, I don't
as much anymore, but I almost always use this because
it sets up a good ending and it goes it's
(02:39):
in the quiet crucible of your personal private suffering that
your noblest dreams are born and God's greatest gifts are
given to you for what you've been through, and that
says it all right there. I'm most proud, most proud
of not letting them break me in Pittsburgh, and they
(03:00):
called me dumb and stupid and basically had nobody defending
me as kind of like a man on an island.
And I was sitting in my room, Jake, all by myself,
not married, and I had emotional breakdown and I had
this incredible talk to myself. I've never said this, where
I said, I am not going to let him take
(03:20):
this from me. I am not going to be destroyed
by these negative people, you know, nobody is going to
steal my dream.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I own it. It's mine.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I had this incredible self motivating talk to myself.
And it was from that moment on that I developed
I did how.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
When I say mirror economics or mirror self evaluation, what
does that mean to me? Stand in front of a
mirror and have a talk with yourself, and you'll tell yourself,
you lowlife, you non working dog.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You better do this. You know it's I call it mirror.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Economics, but it's basically it's a self evaluation. And when
you do that and you're all alone by yourself, you're
gonna be brutally honest.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You're not going to try to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Pull something over someone's eyes or pretend to be something
you're not. You're gonna be brutally honest with yourself and
you're gonna take that and you're gonna apply it to
your life. And it was that time where I decided
I'm weak emotionally.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Everything bothers me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I need a pad on the back, I need love,
I need this, I need that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I'm not and I'm not and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And from this day forward, you know, as you said, the.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Shield is up, and my shield of armor is up,
and nobody's going to break in, and I'm gonna turn
this around. It may not have been in Pittsburgh, may
have been somewhere else, but thank god it was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That is my unbreakable moment.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This person here is certainly in that category of one
of the greatest athletes of all times, one of the
greatest Olympians of all times. But I like to have
people on and w also one of the greatest people
I've ever met of all time. With that, I'm going
to bring in a good friend of mine who we
respectfully call each other each one's besties, The wanted Only
Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
How are you, bestie?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Hey j how are you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm doing great. I love the product placement there. Don't gee,
are you a spokesman for somebody?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I can't tell.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I could tell, but I mainly I just got done skiing,
so I've got helmet hair, and you know, I wanted
to be presentable, so this was my solution.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's still a thing for.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You, helmet air after all these years, you still worry
about helmet air.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, yeah, it doesn't go away like when you ski.
It just happens. It's a natural side effect.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, you're like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Fucking Lindsay Von.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I could have whatever kind of air at you.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Shit me, give me your own breakable moment, the thing
that should have broken you and didn't, and as a result,
you came to the other side of that tunnel stronger
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, Jay, that list is really long.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
There's been many unbreakable moments. I think probably my second
when I blew out my knee in twenty thirteen acl
MCL to be a plateau fracture, and then ten months
later I did it again, just no MCL, and basically
the entire world wrote me off and it almost broke me.
(06:17):
It was close, probably one of the hardest times of
my life, but I crawled my way out. I've learned
how to walk again. I learned how to didn't run.
Running was out of the question. But I won my
second race back and that was basically two years of
being out of competition, and that was probably one of
(06:38):
my proudest moments. I cried like a little baby, and
I guarantee you that no one else would have been
able to do what I did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Going to bring it a good friend of mine from
a long time ago. I've been friends for ages from
New York City. But now we have something else we've
bond with, which is mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And that is Kenneth Cole. How are I brought it?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I'm great, Jay.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So if you do get a successful designer.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
On the show some day, let me know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is that to fuck that one up?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Didn't I yea give me your unbreakable moment, But the
moment of your life that should have broken you could
have broken you. And because it didn't, you came through
the other side of that tunnel and made you a
lot stronger.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
So I woke up one morning and I realized that
the stores were all the whole retail business in the
United States was struggling, and then there was only a
few retailers left. That Macy's was about to be acquired
by Federated Department Stores, which and they were both in
debt up to their eyes and some and they already
(07:36):
had no service on the floor. And it became clear
to me that in order for them to justify and
afford this, they had to change the business business model,
which meant they were going to have to get rid
of the middle man and they were gonna have to
source product independently, and I realized, wait a second, I'm
that middleman, and so I went back to sleep, took
some ass, but went back to sleep, woke up, and
I said, wait a second, I don't have to be.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That middle man.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
If I opened stores and I could become the destination,
then I'm not the middlemen anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They are.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
So I changed the business model and when public in
order to fund opening stores, and I became a retailer
and I've built got focus on building the brand and
not just creating cool shoes for cool people.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Have been very open about meeting certain teammates in my life,
people that I lean into.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
As I've struggled. I used to sit there and suffer
in silence.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But I've needed a fight team. I've needed people I
can lean into and walk this walk together with. And
my guest right now, I probably leaned into this man
more than just about everybody else in my life when
I struggle. He's one of the people that I immediately
call because he gets me. And you'll probably be surprised
that he gets me so much because he is man,
(08:48):
mister everything. He's Walter Payton, Man of the Year, Award winner,
he's a Super Bowl champion, and he is probably the
most handsome.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Guy who's ever played in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Let's just say that he looks like exactly like me,
except you know, eight feet taller and eight hundred pounds.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Heavery year.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But that is my boy, Andrew Whitworth.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How are you, brother, I'm good, brother. Thank you so
much for let me come on here with you today.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, absolutely letting you come on. You kidd me. And
people don't realize it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look, when I wrote my book Unbreakable, and I tried
to explain what mental health issues were, what the gray was.
Andrew and I were sitting in Cabo with Sean McVay
in the famous weekend when we did happen to run
into Matthew Stafford in Cabo.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Just happened, you know, just happened to right a lot
of people you run into in a hot tub, you know,
it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It started in the hot dub went back to Whitworth's room.
Next thing, you know. Matt Stafford, he's a ram go figure.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
You know, love at first sight. No, it's hey, that
was a special week I'll never forget us visiting and
talking about you. Writing your book and obviously wow, to
think where both of us have gone from there, it's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Give me your unbreakable moment, that moment that should have
or could have broken you and didn't, and you came
through the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Of that's all.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Anytime in sports, you have lots of moments that maybe
you could have break you from a sports standpoint, But
I think for me, my unbreakable moment would be when
I went to the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals. A
lot of people don't realize the beginning of this story.
And everyone heard the Walter Payton Man of the Year
speech about Derek Barnes and our interaction on the field
(10:26):
and me going to a boys and girls club and
meeting him as I was a rookie in the NFL,
and sixteen years later he's on an NFL field with
me and tells me, like, man, you influenced my life
and you made a difference, and I couldn't wait to
get to the NFL to tell you thank you. But
what they don't realize is that when I got drafted
in the NFL, I was fresh out of a divorce
(10:47):
in college. I married a girl in college for six
months and got divorced, drafted in the league, and two
weeks later, my best friend in life, Lee Deal, was
killed in action in Iraq. I went through a divorce
of a relationship and the divorce of you know, my
friend dying, who's one of my closest people in life.
We grew up together, we were college roommates. He then went
(11:09):
and went and joined the Navy and was on a
special recon team was killed in action. And so what
people don't realize about that Derek Barnes story is that
as much as I was there for Derek Barnes those
Tuesday visits to sit with him and his buddies and
talk about life and to sit on just a step
on the side of the concrete and throw the football together,
(11:30):
I spent time with those kids because I was so
empty inside and so like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Know what's worth living.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
For that, Derek Barnes was as much there for me
as I ever was for Derek Barnes. And so when
he walked up to me last November after that game
and told me, dude, I couldn't wait for the moment
to tell.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You I made it to the NFL, I blacked out.
When that happened.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
I literally asked our PR person afterwards, like what did
I say back to him? Do you remember? Because just
gip me his number. I need to talk to him
because I have no idea what happened, because to me,
it was like, man, like I went back to that spot,
that unbreakable moment where I didn't know who I was
or what I ever wanted out of life or any
of that. I had no passions, nothing, And it just took
(12:17):
me back to that concrete step sitting with those kids
and realizing like wow, like you're here, but wow, I'm
here too, and I have no idea how we got here,
you know, And it's just it's so that will always
be what I'll remember, Like I remember the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I remember Walt speaking man of you're all. That's really cool.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
That moment, Man, it took me back to a place where, Wow,
not only was I dark, I had no idea what
tomorrow was.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It was just an empty place.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
But it's really cool that now it's a place that's
filled up with so many cool memories and joy and
awesome moments.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
One of the guys who was very proud to beat
the hell out of me on a daily basis for
a long time. My guests here that is the UFC
six time World Champ Hall of Famer, my brother and
co creator with me of MMA.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Athletics, Randy Coutour. My dude, give your own breakable moment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That moment like that changed your life, that something try
to break, you couldn't and you came through the other
side of that tunnel.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, that was a journey for me through the support
of Rust and I started wrestling at ten years old.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
To get my dad's attention.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
My dad was a dead beat, he was never around.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No support, none of that.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
My mom raised servis parse, but I heard my whole
life what a great wrestler he was and what a
tough guy he was. So I donned the compulsory uniform
of that era tights in a singlet, and walked out
in front of all my classmates.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hoping to get his attention, and he would come around.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
He never saw me Wrestle's not a single match in
my entire career, but I found.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The place that seemed to make me tick.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Those coaches were very, very important to me because they
filled that void when I needed to kick an the ass.
Stay with the guys, to grab me and do that
when I needed an arm thrown around me in a
new gie. It's going to be okay, it's going to
be all right. They were the guys to do that too.
I don't think they knew that I talked to my coaches.
I'm good friends with coach k Spear, my very first coach.
I don't think he knew what he meant to me
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and that boyd and that thing that he was providing
for me that I didn't have at home. But that
was certainly the journey for me, and the courage to
don that uniform and walk out there in an individual
combatti sport like wrestling. Forget winning or losing. Hell, that
was enough just doing that, but that, you know, and
(14:38):
then setting a goal. Even though he was it didn't work.
He never came around, he never saw me. I eventually,
you know, it was in the state finals my senior
year was at one time state champion in Washington. He
wasn't there. But that journey culminated with me fulfilling that
dream to be that state champion, and that's when I
realized I can do this. I used that I could
(15:01):
have used as an excuse to be a douchebag and
make a lot of bad decisions and do a lot
of bad things. I used it instead to motivate myself,
you know, errantly trying to get his attention, but still
found my calling, found my vocation, the place that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I belonged, ultimately led me down this road.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Played for thirteen years in the NFL, six time pro bowler,
twenty one catches in a game a good friend of mine,
Brandon Marshall, welcome him in and b marsh give me
your unbreakable moment, Give me the moment that man, you
went through the.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Deepest, darkest tunnel.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It could have broke broken you, but it didn't, and
you came through the other side of that tunnel much
stronger as a result.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Man, there's so many.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
The first one was in college and I grew up
as a superstar, right like on his pedestal. And then
it was three years where I didn't think I was
going to make it to the NFL and hit my
you know, my goals, and I never forget laying in
the tub in the ice bath day before the game, body.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Feeling like crap, mind feeling like crap, and I was just.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
Crying, crying my eyes out, Anyways, I ended up doing this,
jumping out of that tub, going to the tattoo parlor
and getting two stars on my side.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
One says born, one says die.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
And that was my way of like coming out of
that moment where it's like I may be in some
shit right now and that's where I want to be,
but I knew I was born in Starre and I'm
a die a star. So before every play, every moment
on the field, you see me tapping my sides and
then doing this, and that was me going back to
that moment like don't forget who you are and why
you're here. There was another moment in twenty eleven before
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I went to McClain hospital when my buddy right where
Mike Sims walking out we're fighting on the field and
he basically like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Know who you are.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
I know who you are, right And so in that
moment of going to McClain hospital, was there for three months, man.
I was sitting there where people had blood seeping through
their arms because they were self harming. There was a
young lady named Sasha. We called her Sasha Bear. She
was fifteen years old. She was in a three East program.
She completed suicide. Like I was in some real stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Man, I was on.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Campus where people was literally walking around talking to themselves
and you say hello, they won't even respond back. You
weren't even there, dealing with psychosis and so many different things.
And that moment, like I could have my life could
have went totally Leffer, could have totally totally right. And
then the last moment is right now, like I'm in
probably one of the toughest moments I could ever be in, right,
(17:26):
maybe even tougher than where I was right building this
company entrepreneurship.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Eighty nine employees.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
You know, I invested all the money building apps and
building this stuff. Bro, when I tell you I'm dealing
with some stuff, I'm dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But now I have.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
The resources and skills to be able to cope with
the abs and flows of it.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
So it's tough. I cried two nights ago. I cried
two nights ago because I.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Found out there's someone that in my circle from a
team standpoint, I gotta let go. And it's breaking my
heart that I gotta let this person go because there's
so many other implications to that, and so like I've
probably crowd over the last three years, probably six times
built in this company. Bro I can't give it all
to you because because I'm saving it for my book.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Sure, I got it, but you just got to trust.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Me, Broke, you got to trust me.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
And so like now, I'm able to deal with it
and still perform at a high level because I'm taking
care of myself.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
A friend of mine who I've trained with, who lived
with me and my son for a while, came out
on national television and told the world he was struggling.
That friend just happened to be the best tackle the
National Football League. And Lane Johnson, give me a moment
in your life, your unbreakable moment, something that could have broken.
This doesn't have to be mental health wise, just anything,
(18:44):
something in your life, your career, whatever it is. Something
that for me is when I almost died with my
lungs and then freaking came all the way back and
open unbreakable with an oxygen attack. My other unbreakable moment was,
you know, eleven years after starting my career, get my
first full time job and not not quitting after a
eleven years of fucking rejection, making nine thousand, four hundred
and fifty bucks a year living in New York City.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What is your unbreakable moment.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Give me that moment for you that something should have broken,
you didn't, and you came through the other side of
that tunnel stronger because of it.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
I mean overcoming just really this past year with the injuries,
the anxiety, you know, even the coming forth and now
you know, telling people you know kind of my journey,
and then uh really is just be wary of the
people you're around every day at work.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Try to lighten people up.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
And like I said, a conflict can go a long
way for people, a good conversation can go a long
way for people. And I feel like the initiation of
that might be the hardest part, but once you break
that door down, then it helpens it.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Up for a much better life.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My guy I'm bringing in here is my walking antidepressant.
Really is my guy, David Spade, give me your unbreaka moment,
the one thing in your life it should have broken,
you didn't, and as a result, you came through the
other side of that tunnel stronger forever.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
That's sort of a complex question I would have to say.
I would have to go with I'll go with probably
dad leaving Dad leaving when I was four. My brother's
just six and eight. And that's a hard one. That's
a very hard one. I didn't really even notice how
hard it was because I had a lot of anger.
It just came out in different ways with all of us.
And when you want someone to rely on, or you're sick,
(20:25):
when you're eleven and you want to call your dad,
you can't. He calls me when he wants. You know,
he was around, he just wasn't available right, And so
that was a very tough one even throughout my life.
But I think in a world of like a victim mentality,
I have to say I can't just talk about those things.
You have to just say here's the cards you're dealt
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and go forward or not because no one's there to
help you. That's not an one's job. So if you
want to move forward, you got to take what happens
and move forward. You can't just blame, blame, blame. I mean,
it's easier said and done, and I have not done
it perfectly, but I just realized it's either that or nothing.
And it was like the Joder movie, that was part
(21:07):
of it going. You got to keep keeping on because
what else you gonna do, so I had to do it.
My mom, luckily was so great and made up the
best she could, so I hope her everything. But yeah,
that was that was it. It bothered me, you know,
for obviously for a long ter.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
My dude, Freddy Fritz Junior, how are you, my man?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I'm very well. How are you good?
Speaker 12 (21:28):
Good?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I ask all my guests this, give me your unbreakable moment.
One thing in life, man, that could have broken you,
should have broken you, but it didn't, and as a result,
you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever.
Speaker 12 (21:40):
Yeah, I mean we touched on it earlier, because I
definitely there's nothing unbreakable about me. Being breakable is what
keeps me sharp, It's what keeps me focused, It's what
keeps me disciplined, knowing that all this precious life, everything
I have, it can all be gone in in a
(22:00):
moment's notice if life doesn't turn out the way it's
supposed to. So every time those moments come, I really
try to be prepared for him. When I decided to
move to Los Angeles and pursue this business, that was
one of those make or break moments.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I could have quit I could have given up.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
I hated being told no, I hated being told I
wasn't good enough. I hated having bad auditions when I
knew I had a better performance somewhere inside me. I
just couldn't get it out at that moment. I have
moments in the car where I wanted to turn around
and be like, no, give me one more chance. But
you can't do that. It's so unprofessional. So there were
times where I was ready to walk away. And then
you know, it was that discipline from my godfather, you know,
(22:40):
and those BS quotes that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He would always hit me with.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
I'm in control of my actions and my reactions to
the actions of others, and so every not I heard,
I just had to control.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
The way that made me feel. And it was all right, you.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Don't think I'm good enough, You'll see. And the next
time I went in, I made sure I was better,
and I had to hustle, I had to lie. I
did every thing I could to get as many auditions
and as much experience as I could so that when
those big dogs called me in they couldn't talk shit
like they would have. They wouldn't be able to deny me,
and eventually I broke through. You know, I had to
wait for skeet Ulric to be busy because we popped
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at the same time. But once he booked a movie,
I was like, all right, there's gonna be six opportunities.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I got to get one of them.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
See, I want to correct you because you said you're
not unbreakable. You are unbreakable because there's a lot of
things that could have broken, but you didn't stay down. Yeah,
in the permanent sense, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I am right. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And man, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much again.
Wrestling with Freddie as Wrestling Podcast. Make sure everybody here
tunes into that.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Dude. Can't thank you enough.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Man. You know, hopefully you and I can break some
bread and man shit have Straham won't get his ass
back out her.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You can teach me. I have a surf, not a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
We live pretty close to each other.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
So man, you and to all your listeners, it's a
fight every day, so put your hands up.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Love it. Freddy Prince Junior, Thank you, my dude.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, man, my pleasure
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a Mental Wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer. What a special show we have for
you today. And unbreakable, to me is such a very
valuable word. It goes to my soul, goes to my spirit,
and what it means to me is something that could
have broken me, shouldn't, but didn't, and as a result,
I came through the other side of that tuttle stronger forever.
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And I've had a lot of talks with people over
the years with finding that moment. And you think that
moment is a moment of weakness, it's not our equity
of the things that almost broke us but didn't, and
as a result, we now know how strong we really are.
It's not a weakness, it's your strengths and we could
build on these strengths and use these strengths for the
rest of our lives. So we wanted to get together
(00:57):
and put together a conglomeration of this question, and I
asked all my guests and every show is give me
your unbreakable moment that moment when you should have gotten broken,
could have gotten broken, but didn't, and as a result.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You came through the other side of that tunnel stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And the life lessons that we have learned from our
guests with this one question has been so incredibly helpful,
moving filled with strength, and it's built our mental wealth
together like nothing else. So I hope you enjoy all
these unbreakable moments. But some of the biggest names in sports, entertainment, music,
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the veteran community. You know, I've been trying to figure
out how do I possibly introduce this chat in the
right way. You know what, It's family, and this dude
has been part of your family for probably decades and
decades if he's been part of my family for the
last twenty years at Fox NFL Sunday. Probably most famous
for coming out with a Christmas album, I would say,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Done a couple other things. It's one and only Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everybody thanks Jay Glazer.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, thanks for bringing up that Christmas album.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's the only reason I wanted you want to It's
holiday with you?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
What's that moment in your life?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's called them breakable, that something should have broke you,
but didn't, and you came through the other side of
that tunnel and you're stronger.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There's a phrase I heard on television and a guy
by the name of Quickly Flips used it before we
sang this song. And being a guy that speaks to
a lot of corporations, or I used to, I don't
as much anymore, but I almost always use this because
it sets up a good ending and it goes it's
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in the quiet crucible of your personal private suffering that
your noblest dreams are born and God's greatest gifts are
given to you for what you've been through, and that
says it all right there. I'm most proud, most proud
of not letting them break me in Pittsburgh, and they
(03:00):
called me dumb and stupid and basically had nobody defending
me as kind of like a man on an island.
And I was sitting in my room, Jake, all by myself,
not married, and I had emotional breakdown and I had
this incredible talk to myself. I've never said this, where
I said, I am not going to let him take
(03:20):
this from me. I am not going to be destroyed
by these negative people, you know, nobody is going to
steal my dream.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I own it. It's mine.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I had this incredible self motivating talk to myself.
And it was from that moment on that I developed
I did how.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
When I say mirror economics or mirror self evaluation, what
does that mean to me? Stand in front of a
mirror and have a talk with yourself, and you'll tell yourself,
you lowlife, you non working dog.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You better do this. You know it's I call it mirror.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Economics, but it's basically it's a self evaluation. And when
you do that and you're all alone by yourself, you're
gonna be brutally honest.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You're not going to try to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Pull something over someone's eyes or pretend to be something
you're not. You're gonna be brutally honest with yourself and
you're gonna take that and you're gonna apply it to
your life. And it was that time where I decided
I'm weak emotionally.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Everything bothers me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I need a pad on the back, I need love,
I need this, I need that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I'm not and I'm not and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And from this day forward, you know, as you said, the.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Shield is up, and my shield of armor is up,
and nobody's going to break in, and I'm gonna turn
this around. It may not have been in Pittsburgh, may
have been somewhere else, but thank god it was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That is my unbreakable moment.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This person here is certainly in that category of one
of the greatest athletes of all times, one of the
greatest Olympians of all times. But I like to have
people on and w also one of the greatest people
I've ever met of all time. With that, I'm going
to bring in a good friend of mine who we
respectfully call each other each one's besties, The wanted Only
Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
How are you, bestie?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Hey j how are you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm doing great. I love the product placement there. Don't gee,
are you a spokesman for somebody?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I can't tell.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I could tell, but I mainly I just got done skiing,
so I've got helmet hair, and you know, I wanted
to be presentable, so this was my solution.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's still a thing for.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You, helmet air after all these years, you still worry
about helmet air.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, yeah, it doesn't go away like when you ski.
It just happens. It's a natural side effect.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, you're like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Fucking Lindsay Von.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I could have whatever kind of air at you.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Shit me, give me your own breakable moment, the thing
that should have broken you and didn't, and as a result,
you came to the other side of that tunnel stronger
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, Jay, that list is really long.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
There's been many unbreakable moments. I think probably my second
when I blew out my knee in twenty thirteen acl
MCL to be a plateau fracture, and then ten months
later I did it again, just no MCL, and basically
the entire world wrote me off and it almost broke me.
(06:17):
It was close, probably one of the hardest times of
my life, but I crawled my way out. I've learned
how to walk again. I learned how to didn't run.
Running was out of the question. But I won my
second race back and that was basically two years of
being out of competition, and that was probably one of
(06:38):
my proudest moments. I cried like a little baby, and
I guarantee you that no one else would have been
able to do what I did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Going to bring it a good friend of mine from
a long time ago. I've been friends for ages from
New York City. But now we have something else we've
bond with, which is mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And that is Kenneth Cole. How are I brought it?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I'm great, Jay.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So if you do get a successful designer.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
On the show some day, let me know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is that to fuck that one up?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Didn't I yea give me your unbreakable moment, But the
moment of your life that should have broken you could
have broken you. And because it didn't, you came through
the other side of that tunnel and made you a
lot stronger.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
So I woke up one morning and I realized that
the stores were all the whole retail business in the
United States was struggling, and then there was only a
few retailers left. That Macy's was about to be acquired
by Federated Department Stores, which and they were both in
debt up to their eyes and some and they already
(07:36):
had no service on the floor. And it became clear
to me that in order for them to justify and
afford this, they had to change the business business model,
which meant they were going to have to get rid
of the middle man and they were gonna have to
source product independently, and I realized, wait a second, I'm
that middleman, and so I went back to sleep, took
some ass, but went back to sleep, woke up, and
I said, wait a second, I don't have to be.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That middle man.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
If I opened stores and I could become the destination,
then I'm not the middlemen anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They are.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
So I changed the business model and when public in
order to fund opening stores, and I became a retailer
and I've built got focus on building the brand and
not just creating cool shoes for cool people.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Have been very open about meeting certain teammates in my life,
people that I lean into.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
As I've struggled. I used to sit there and suffer
in silence.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But I've needed a fight team. I've needed people I
can lean into and walk this walk together with. And
my guest right now, I probably leaned into this man
more than just about everybody else in my life when
I struggle. He's one of the people that I immediately
call because he gets me. And you'll probably be surprised
that he gets me so much because he is man,
(08:48):
mister everything. He's Walter Payton, Man of the Year, Award winner,
he's a Super Bowl champion, and he is probably the
most handsome.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Guy who's ever played in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Let's just say that he looks like exactly like me,
except you know, eight feet taller and eight hundred pounds.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Heavery year.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But that is my boy, Andrew Whitworth.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How are you, brother, I'm good, brother. Thank you so
much for let me come on here with you today.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, absolutely letting you come on. You kidd me. And
people don't realize it.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look, when I wrote my book Unbreakable, and I tried
to explain what mental health issues were, what the gray was.
Andrew and I were sitting in Cabo with Sean McVay
in the famous weekend when we did happen to run
into Matthew Stafford in Cabo.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Just happened, you know, just happened to right a lot
of people you run into in a hot tub, you know,
it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It started in the hot dub went back to Whitworth's room.
Next thing, you know. Matt Stafford, he's a ram go figure.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
You know, love at first sight. No, it's hey, that
was a special week I'll never forget us visiting and
talking about you. Writing your book and obviously wow, to
think where both of us have gone from there, it's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Give me your unbreakable moment, that moment that should have
or could have broken you and didn't, and you came
through the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Of that's all.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Anytime in sports, you have lots of moments that maybe
you could have break you from a sports standpoint, But
I think for me, my unbreakable moment would be when
I went to the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals. A
lot of people don't realize the beginning of this story.
And everyone heard the Walter Payton Man of the Year
speech about Derek Barnes and our interaction on the field
(10:26):
and me going to a boys and girls club and
meeting him as I was a rookie in the NFL,
and sixteen years later he's on an NFL field with
me and tells me, like, man, you influenced my life
and you made a difference, and I couldn't wait to
get to the NFL to tell you thank you. But
what they don't realize is that when I got drafted
in the NFL, I was fresh out of a divorce
(10:47):
in college. I married a girl in college for six
months and got divorced, drafted in the league, and two
weeks later, my best friend in life, Lee Deal, was
killed in action in Iraq. I went through a divorce
of a relationship and the divorce of you know, my
friend dying, who's one of my closest people in life.
We grew up together, we were college roommates. He then went
(11:09):
and went and joined the Navy and was on a
special recon team was killed in action. And so what
people don't realize about that Derek Barnes story is that
as much as I was there for Derek Barnes those
Tuesday visits to sit with him and his buddies and
talk about life and to sit on just a step
on the side of the concrete and throw the football together,
(11:30):
I spent time with those kids because I was so
empty inside and so like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Know what's worth living.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
For that, Derek Barnes was as much there for me
as I ever was for Derek Barnes. And so when
he walked up to me last November after that game
and told me, dude, I couldn't wait for the moment
to tell.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You I made it to the NFL, I blacked out.
When that happened.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
I literally asked our PR person afterwards, like what did
I say back to him? Do you remember? Because just
gip me his number. I need to talk to him
because I have no idea what happened, because to me,
it was like, man, like I went back to that spot,
that unbreakable moment where I didn't know who I was
or what I ever wanted out of life or any
of that. I had no passions, nothing, And it just took
(12:17):
me back to that concrete step sitting with those kids
and realizing like wow, like you're here, but wow, I'm
here too, and I have no idea how we got here,
you know, And it's just it's so that will always
be what I'll remember, Like I remember the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I remember Walt speaking man of you're all. That's really cool.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
That moment, Man, it took me back to a place where, Wow,
not only was I dark, I had no idea what
tomorrow was.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It was just an empty place.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
But it's really cool that now it's a place that's
filled up with so many cool memories and joy and
awesome moments.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
One of the guys who was very proud to beat
the hell out of me on a daily basis for
a long time. My guests here that is the UFC
six time World Champ Hall of Famer, my brother and
co creator with me of MMA.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Athletics, Randy Coutour. My dude, give your own breakable moment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That moment like that changed your life, that something try
to break, you couldn't and you came through the other
side of that tunnel.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, that was a journey for me through the support
of Rust and I started wrestling at ten years old.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
To get my dad's attention.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
My dad was a dead beat, he was never around.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No support, none of that.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
My mom raised servis parse, but I heard my whole
life what a great wrestler he was and what a
tough guy he was. So I donned the compulsory uniform
of that era tights in a singlet, and walked out
in front of all my classmates.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hoping to get his attention, and he would come around.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
He never saw me Wrestle's not a single match in
my entire career, but I found.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The place that seemed to make me tick.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Those coaches were very, very important to me because they
filled that void when I needed to kick an the ass.
Stay with the guys, to grab me and do that
when I needed an arm thrown around me in a
new gie. It's going to be okay, it's going to
be all right. They were the guys to do that too.
I don't think they knew that I talked to my coaches.
I'm good friends with coach k Spear, my very first coach.
I don't think he knew what he meant to me
(14:15):
and that boyd and that thing that he was providing
for me that I didn't have at home. But that
was certainly the journey for me, and the courage to
don that uniform and walk out there in an individual
combatti sport like wrestling. Forget winning or losing. Hell, that
was enough just doing that, but that, you know, and
(14:38):
then setting a goal. Even though he was it didn't work.
He never came around, he never saw me. I eventually,
you know, it was in the state finals my senior
year was at one time state champion in Washington. He
wasn't there. But that journey culminated with me fulfilling that
dream to be that state champion, and that's when I
realized I can do this. I used that I could
(15:01):
have used as an excuse to be a douchebag and
make a lot of bad decisions and do a lot
of bad things. I used it instead to motivate myself,
you know, errantly trying to get his attention, but still
found my calling, found my vocation, the place that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I belonged, ultimately led me down this road.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Played for thirteen years in the NFL, six time pro bowler,
twenty one catches in a game a good friend of mine,
Brandon Marshall, welcome him in and b marsh give me
your unbreakable moment, Give me the moment that man, you
went through the.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Deepest, darkest tunnel.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It could have broke broken you, but it didn't, and
you came through the other side of that tunnel much
stronger as a result.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Man, there's so many.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
The first one was in college and I grew up
as a superstar, right like on his pedestal. And then
it was three years where I didn't think I was
going to make it to the NFL and hit my
you know, my goals, and I never forget laying in
the tub in the ice bath day before the game, body.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Feeling like crap, mind feeling like crap, and I was just.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
Crying, crying my eyes out, Anyways, I ended up doing this,
jumping out of that tub, going to the tattoo parlor
and getting two stars on my side.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
One says born, one says die.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
And that was my way of like coming out of
that moment where it's like I may be in some
shit right now and that's where I want to be,
but I knew I was born in Starre and I'm
a die a star. So before every play, every moment
on the field, you see me tapping my sides and
then doing this, and that was me going back to
that moment like don't forget who you are and why
you're here. There was another moment in twenty eleven before
(16:36):
I went to McClain hospital when my buddy right where
Mike Sims walking out we're fighting on the field and
he basically like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Know who you are.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
I know who you are, right And so in that
moment of going to McClain hospital, was there for three months, man.
I was sitting there where people had blood seeping through
their arms because they were self harming. There was a
young lady named Sasha. We called her Sasha Bear. She
was fifteen years old. She was in a three East program.
She completed suicide. Like I was in some real stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Man, I was on.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Campus where people was literally walking around talking to themselves
and you say hello, they won't even respond back. You
weren't even there, dealing with psychosis and so many different things.
And that moment, like I could have my life could
have went totally Leffer, could have totally totally right. And
then the last moment is right now, like I'm in
probably one of the toughest moments I could ever be in, right,
(17:26):
maybe even tougher than where I was right building this
company entrepreneurship.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Eighty nine employees.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
You know, I invested all the money building apps and
building this stuff. Bro, when I tell you I'm dealing
with some stuff, I'm dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But now I have.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
The resources and skills to be able to cope with
the abs and flows of it.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
So it's tough. I cried two nights ago. I cried
two nights ago because I.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Found out there's someone that in my circle from a
team standpoint, I gotta let go. And it's breaking my
heart that I gotta let this person go because there's
so many other implications to that, and so like I've
probably crowd over the last three years, probably six times
built in this company. Bro I can't give it all
to you because because I'm saving it for my book.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Sure, I got it, but you just got to trust.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Me, Broke, you got to trust me.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
And so like now, I'm able to deal with it
and still perform at a high level because I'm taking
care of myself.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
A friend of mine who I've trained with, who lived
with me and my son for a while, came out
on national television and told the world he was struggling.
That friend just happened to be the best tackle the
National Football League. And Lane Johnson, give me a moment
in your life, your unbreakable moment, something that could have broken.
This doesn't have to be mental health wise, just anything,
(18:44):
something in your life, your career, whatever it is. Something
that for me is when I almost died with my
lungs and then freaking came all the way back and
open unbreakable with an oxygen attack. My other unbreakable moment was,
you know, eleven years after starting my career, get my
first full time job and not not quitting after a
eleven years of fucking rejection, making nine thousand, four hundred
and fifty bucks a year living in New York City.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What is your unbreakable moment.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Give me that moment for you that something should have broken,
you didn't, and you came through the other side of
that tunnel stronger because of it.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
I mean overcoming just really this past year with the injuries,
the anxiety, you know, even the coming forth and now
you know, telling people you know kind of my journey,
and then uh really is just be wary of the
people you're around every day at work.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Try to lighten people up.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
And like I said, a conflict can go a long
way for people, a good conversation can go a long
way for people. And I feel like the initiation of
that might be the hardest part, but once you break
that door down, then it helpens it.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Up for a much better life.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My guy I'm bringing in here is my walking antidepressant.
Really is my guy, David Spade, give me your unbreaka moment,
the one thing in your life it should have broken,
you didn't, and as a result, you came through the
other side of that tunnel stronger forever.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
That's sort of a complex question I would have to say.
I would have to go with I'll go with probably
dad leaving Dad leaving when I was four. My brother's
just six and eight. And that's a hard one. That's
a very hard one. I didn't really even notice how
hard it was because I had a lot of anger.
It just came out in different ways with all of us.
And when you want someone to rely on, or you're sick,
(20:25):
when you're eleven and you want to call your dad,
you can't. He calls me when he wants. You know,
he was around, he just wasn't available right, And so
that was a very tough one even throughout my life.
But I think in a world of like a victim mentality,
I have to say I can't just talk about those things.
You have to just say here's the cards you're dealt
(20:47):
and go forward or not because no one's there to
help you. That's not an one's job. So if you
want to move forward, you got to take what happens
and move forward. You can't just blame, blame, blame. I mean,
it's easier said and done, and I have not done
it perfectly, but I just realized it's either that or nothing.
And it was like the Joder movie, that was part
(21:07):
of it going. You got to keep keeping on because
what else you gonna do, so I had to do it.
My mom, luckily was so great and made up the
best she could, so I hope her everything. But yeah,
that was that was it. It bothered me, you know,
for obviously for a long ter.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
My dude, Freddy Fritz Junior, how are you, my man?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I'm very well. How are you good?
Speaker 12 (21:28):
Good?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I ask all my guests this, give me your unbreakable moment.
One thing in life, man, that could have broken you,
should have broken you, but it didn't, and as a result,
you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever.
Speaker 12 (21:40):
Yeah, I mean we touched on it earlier, because I
definitely there's nothing unbreakable about me. Being breakable is what
keeps me sharp, It's what keeps me focused, It's what
keeps me disciplined, knowing that all this precious life, everything
I have, it can all be gone in in a
(22:00):
moment's notice if life doesn't turn out the way it's
supposed to. So every time those moments come, I really
try to be prepared for him. When I decided to
move to Los Angeles and pursue this business, that was
one of those make or break moments.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I could have quit I could have given up.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
I hated being told no, I hated being told I
wasn't good enough. I hated having bad auditions when I
knew I had a better performance somewhere inside me. I
just couldn't get it out at that moment. I have
moments in the car where I wanted to turn around
and be like, no, give me one more chance. But
you can't do that. It's so unprofessional. So there were
times where I was ready to walk away. And then
you know, it was that discipline from my godfather, you know,
(22:40):
and those BS quotes that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He would always hit me with.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
I'm in control of my actions and my reactions to
the actions of others, and so every not I heard,
I just had to control.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
The way that made me feel. And it was all right, you.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Don't think I'm good enough, You'll see. And the next
time I went in, I made sure I was better,
and I had to hustle, I had to lie. I
did every thing I could to get as many auditions
and as much experience as I could so that when
those big dogs called me in they couldn't talk shit
like they would have. They wouldn't be able to deny me,
and eventually I broke through. You know, I had to
wait for skeet Ulric to be busy because we popped
(23:16):
at the same time. But once he booked a movie,
I was like, all right, there's gonna be six opportunities.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I got to get one of them.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
See, I want to correct you because you said you're
not unbreakable. You are unbreakable because there's a lot of
things that could have broken, but you didn't stay down. Yeah,
in the permanent sense, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I am right. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And man, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much again.
Wrestling with Freddie as Wrestling Podcast. Make sure everybody here
tunes into that.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Dude. Can't thank you enough.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Man. You know, hopefully you and I can break some
bread and man shit have Straham won't get his ass
back out her.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You can teach me. I have a surf, not a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
We live pretty close to each other.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
So man, you and to all your listeners, it's a
fight every day, so put your hands up.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Love it. Freddy Prince Junior, Thank you, my dude.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, man, my pleasure
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