June 7, 2023 • 37 mins
Big Ben talks about the PGA Tour announcing a merger with LIV Golf, Rangers pitcher Jacob deGrom needing Tommy John surgery, Maller to the Third Degree, Password: Word Game of the Stars, and much more!
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not actually a golf story. It's a story of a
hostile takeover. It's a it's a great story, all right now.
You know, I very rarely, very rarely go down this road.
It's a yeah, it's a doozy. I mean, this is
I've been Jones. This is a great story here because
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it is the rare, inappropriate malan monologue about golf. Eddie
shaking his head. Yes, everyone's in agreement here. You got
to go with this. I love it. I mean the
merger heard round the golf world. After many lawsuits and
a lot of billable hours for lawyers here, there and everywhere,
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the people at the PGA Tour realized they were not
going to win, and so they decided, screw that, we
will be in business with our enemy and buy that dollar.
That is what they've done. So the PGA Tour teaming
up with the Live Golf people and something known as
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the DP World Tour. They've ended hostilities. Don't even know
what that is. But the big three really the big two,
the PGA Tour and then Live run by the Saudi government,
a bankrolled by the Saudi government. They end up now
operating under one single business umbrella. It's a really nice
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umbrella with gold and man lots of cash, lots of
cash in that under that umbrella. But the umbrella funded
by the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund. So that's who's
bankrolling this adventure. And let's discuss the question on this one.
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I question on this one from your perspective, right, what
is your perspective on the PGA joining forces under one
golf entity with the Saudi government, the Live Golf tour.
So my thoughts on this. You've got Roberto Duran, band
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Aid and CNBC, and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make a massive peny.
How much money you think was slipped under the table
to the PGA commissioner. How much money he got? Hey,
well let's get a deal of that, okay, all right,
please make it have all right? So number WHA, let's
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go to the judges scorecards here, and you go to
the judges scorecards on this golf merger. And this is universal.
All judges scorecards give the win. Fact. You can say,
don't even go to the judges scorecards. This is a
knockout for the Saudis. Right, this is what they wanted.
They got what they want, They had the money. This
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is a major flex. There's no other way to look
at it, right, I mean, from that perspective, that's a KO.
That's it. That's a ko. The PGA Tour, even though
they're talking about being a partnership, who's the one wearing
the pants in this relationship. Who's the one that's got
the money? The Saudi live golf tours got the money,
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not the PGA Tour, right, they got chump change in comparison.
So they're the ones, the live golf people that are
gonna be wearing the pants in this relationship. And so
turned out the lot the parties over a PGA Tour.
Someday when we're old I guess I'm old down. But
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someday we'll look back and say, hey, I remember when
there's a thing called the PGA Tour. Remember that? Yeah?
Oh yeah. They played all over the United States and
they were the masters of ceremonies for all the big
golf tournaments in the US. And whatever happened to them?
Where did they go? So now the PGA Tour will
just be a membrane of the Saudi Arabian sports washing operation,
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and so there was a brief Cold war. There were
no guns, there was no knives used. There was just
a large war chest of gold coins that were tossed out,
and those that were opportunistic got a big check, got
a lot of money, and those that decided to be
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loyal got bupkis in comparison. Right, The Saudi Investment Fund
decided a couple of years ago. That's the amazing thing
about this, how fast this happened. A couple of years ago,
they decided we were gonna get in the golf business,
and they wanted to take on the PGA Tour, and
they did, and boy did they ever. Got a couple
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of old Cogers at the PGA Tour completely flat footed,
and they forked out these massive, cartoon sized checks and
right from the Acme store there, the cartoon checks they
handed out, and with each payment, it was another nail
in the coffin because those payments were not going to nobody's.
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They were going to somebody's. And as much as people said,
and we don't talk a lot of golf, we did
talk about this story. A couple of years ago when
it popped up and now we revisit it, and people
were like, well, it doesn't matter, there'll be a new
crop of stars and all that. Well, on Tuesday, right
random day in June, the people that run the PGA
tour got together and they quoted Roberto Dran No Moss,
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no Moss, that's it. At the Living Tour started back
in October of twenty twenty one, so it hasn't even
been two full years, and within that time it's raised
the white flag for the PGA. Why well, follow the money, right,
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follow the money, And this was going to be dragged out.
The Saudi government said, you can't look at our finances.
From what I was reading earlier, you can't look at
our finances because we are being bankful the live golf
people by the Saudi government. So therefore there's no discovery.
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So that was going to drag through the court systems
for quite a long time and every day, every hour.
Lawyers are not cheap, even when you have the on retainer.
Eventually that runs out and you've got problems. So they
decided that's it. Now it's not completely over. Here's the
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interesting thing. There is a chance this gets tied up
because of what's the old saying, it's not over till
the fat politician sings. Yeah. Politicians are going to get
involved in this, and there are already some whispers that
some of the Democratic politicians are going to raise a
stank and try to block this merger from happening, so
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that will drag this out a little further, so it's
not completely over, but they'll likely get checks also from
the Saudi government, so they'll be okay. All right, now,
page number two here, who are the biggest losers with
a capital L, right, biggest losers for this partnership between
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Live Golf and the PGA two. So there are many,
many losers. There are many losers, but we'll start with
the handful of big name golfers who said I'm gonna
be loyal. I'm gonna wrap myself in the flag. Some
of them aren't even American, but they were like, I
want to stand by the PGA tour. I don't support
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cutting off heads like the Saudis do. I'm not gonna go.
So those people look like complete jackasses, Okay, total schmucks.
Because you go down the list here and Roy McElroy
lost gobs of money. Tiger Woods was offered a reported
eight hundred million off. Now Tiger's rich, you said, who
cares eight hundred million? You know who cares. Tiger's great
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grandchildren care. That's who cares, because that's their money, the
great great grandchildren of Tiger Woods, because that would have
been their wealth down the line. It's just crazy. And
all the guys that got the massive payouts from the
Live Golf Tour, they've all got the nest egg. And
those that rejected it though me and they were convinced,
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they were convinced by the people. This is the big
his scumbag move them. All the people the PGA Tour
convinced them, don't do it, don't standard your principle, you know,
you're a man of integrity. And then they ended up
cutting a deal themselves. They cut a deal themselves. Craziness.
And so now you've got this band aid that's been
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ripped off between Live and the PGA Tour. Really PGA
Tour and Live and all that stuff. Clearly, no good
deed goes unpunished. The PGA Tour leadership, who will also
likely all lose their jobs when this is all done,
they will be held responsible. There's no legitimate counter offensive
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that you could come up with. Here. There were a
few lawsuits. I mean, essentially what happened is they don't
want to pay the lawyers. They also had a problem
with television because even though people don't grasp this concept,
there were a lot of big names that left the
PGA Tour. And there's a lot of guys you've never
heard of. And golfers are boring anyway, even when you've
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heard of them are boring. But when you've never heard
of them, that's like a next level of boredom.
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Uh.
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That's boredom incarnate, is what that is. Uh. And and
so then you've got this j Monahan, the commissioner of
the PGA Tour, who in general is like the king
of all hypocrites. This cat right, and he got called out.
There were some of the families of nine to eleven
terrorist attack victims who've been very outspoken about this. They
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protested at some of these lyft golf tournaments and they
spoke vehemently against the PGA commissioner for doing this. And
he is such a snake if these people are telling
the truth, Like he met with these people and talked
about how, you know, how important this issue was for him,
and how you know, gave all the SOB story about
I knew someone that died on nine to eleven, and
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he quickly took the check with the other hand here
and they called the nine to eleven families called the
PGA tour paid Saudi Saudi shills is what they they
said there. And so this guy Monahan, the PGA tour
commissioner Macavelian is the way I would describe his activity there,
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what he was up to, betraying. I understand, you gotta
it's business. You gotta have a public and private perspective,
but you really have to go over the top the
way he apparently did. Now, what are they gonna do
the PGA when they talk to the media, and all
that will be peppered with questions. I imagine they do
what about us them? Which is what you often do
in these situations. Ah, you know, listen, everyone's in business
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with somebody who does bad things. We do bad things
here in this country, and that's how they'll do it.
And everyone's got an iPhone or some kind of smartphone
that came out of China, and they do bad things
in China. So there will be backlash now there's a
lot of faux outrage. We'll see if it actually transpires
when these big tournaments and really golfs about them majors,
it's not about these other things. And so when that
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comes around, we'll see what happens. All right. Now, the
final point on this how far can the Saudi government
go into American sports culture? And the answer is rather scared.
I don't want to go full coast to coast with
my tinfoil hat on. But we had hinted around about
this a while ago, and in this episode with golf
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is proof. The amount of money that they can throw
around if they choose to is insane. It is. You
can't even wrap your arms around the amount of money
that they're playing with here. And to say they have
deep pockets is not even true. They can go all
the way to the middle of the earth and have
nothing but money, endless amounts of money. And so we're
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talking about it's like a CNBC documentary, a very popular
series on CNBC. I think I don't think it's on anymore,
called American greed. When you combine scam scoundrels and scandals
and put all them together and everyone's got their price
we know that anyway, we've all I got my price,
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you've got your price, We've all got our price on this.
But the Sovereign Wealth Fund of Saudi Arabia, which is
what they're using the bankroll this golf entity, is valued
at least five hundred billion. What does that mean? That
means if you want to have a scare here, every time,
you know, we all get gas, A little money goes
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to the Saudis, they add all to that. But they
can get whatever their heart desires. The people that are
behind this can get whatever they want. They could if
they chose. The rumor is they're now going it's not
even a rumor, they're going after the game of football,
but not American football, but they could. They could go
after our version of football if they want. Now in
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a parallel dimension, imagine if you will, a world where
they tap into the Saudi's Sovereign Wealth Fund and get
I don't know, a couple hundred billion, a couple hundred
billion out of that, and they're like, you know what,
we want to buy every NFL team. And let's say
the owners say no. The NFL owners said, we're not
gonna do it. Jerry Jones wants to keep the Cowboys
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till he dies, and those other guys want to keep
their team, fine, all right, so they keep their teams.
So then the Saudi people say, Okay, why don't we
buy the XFL or the USFL. Okay, Okay, then we're
gonna wait until Patrick Mahomes contracts up, and Josh Allen
and all these other top young players, and we'll just
pay them three times as much as the NFL will
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pay them, so they'll come play in the XFL or
the USFL, and then eventually the NFL will run out
of place. Will also, by the way, whoever the top
five players in the NFL draft are gonna be, we'll
just pay them also. And what's gonna happen? Eventually there
would be an agreement in the NFL and it wouldn't
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even take that long. It would happen. This took two years,
and the same thing would happen. You bring Joe Burrow, Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Justin Jefferson, all the top players young players
in the NFL, whoever you think those guys are, and
they would take the money. Of course, they would take
the money, just like the golfers took the money, they
would take the money.
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the greatest start in franchise history. They won again last night.
There has never been a better Ranger team at this
point in the season than right now. Holy Pud Rodriguez
Batman can't believe it. Odamin McDowell is stunned by this development.
So the other shoe, though, has dropped in Arlington. And
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this is why we've got good talk radio. So a
follow up to a Malard monologue in a previous edition
of the show, the curtain has come down on one
of the stars of the offseason lot of hype, A
lot of celebration when this guy got his contract. If
you have not heard by now, it is a turnout.
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The last the parties over situation for Jacob de Gram.
De Gram is dedune for the Arrangers. He is out.
He's gonna have Tommy John surgery to repair the ligament
in his pitching elbow. So they will transfer a ligament
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from another part of his body or a cadaver and
put that into his arm. And he's had that before.
The operation will take place next week, and the timing
means that de Gram is out for the rest of
this season and at least the first part of next season,
but more likely than not, considering how brittle he is
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he's out for next year as well for the Texas Rangers.
So that is the story. Let us discuss. I saw
the Graham was all worked up. He was in tears,
trying to hold back tears there when he addressed the
media that cover the Rangers. So the question here as
we talk about his question, did Jacob Degram? Did Jacob
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Degram do the Rangers dirty? Did you know I'm dirty? Right? See,
here's the way I'll look at this. Right now, I've
got Michael Jackson, board game and nonsense, and we will
combine all of these things together, and we are going
to make a nice headache, is what we're going to make.
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So but to begin this, hey, Jacob de Gram, I'm
not gonna put the onus on him. He played the system.
In fact, if anything, the fault is on the Rangers
in this this little equation. As I was told by
someone years ago, you can ask for whatever you want.
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It's the person that gives you the money that's the sucker.
If they give you the money, right you get you
should ask for a lot. You should ask for a lot.
Ask what you want. No one has to give it
to you. Jacob de Gram had a price point in
his head. He was willing to go anywhere. He didn't
want to play for the Mets anymore. Now you could
argue the Mets actually didn't want him because they saw
this coming. But either way, the fault is on the
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side of Texas. They didn't read the room. It's a
bad job by them. And Jacob de Gram should rent
out you know what you should do. He should rent
out one of those airport ballrooms. You know, those shysters
that go to your local airport and they come on down,
have breakfast, and I'll tell you how you could be
a gazillionaire at the local easy a hotel right near
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the airport, where they charged by the hour for the room.
Come on down. Why not? What the heck? But de
Gram is qualified, this little sister moved Gram. He's qualified
to give a seminar and teach others in baseball his secrets.
I mean, at least a webinar. I say he's qualified
for a masterclass on how to get that dumb money.
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Everyone on Wall Street wants that dumb money. Internet people
want that dumb money. And Jacob de Gram got the
dumb money and he did it. How did he do it?
He did it by doing a high wire act for
several years. This has been going on for several years,
and you hear more about it. The medical people say
that this is something that was likely needed two three
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years ago by de Gram. He didn't have the operation.
He tried to extend it out, wanted to keep pitching.
What do we always say when they say, ah, you know,
avoid the operation. Eventually you're gonna have the operation. So
a couple of years ago with the Mets, de Gram
his arms started having issues, his elbow started flaring up,
and he continued to pitch, but he didn't pitch all
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that often. He missed a lot of time. We told
you hadn't pitched even one hundred innings in a season
in several years. So he limited everything that he was doing.
It's kind of like that strike where you show up
the work, but you don't actually do the work, you
know what I'm talking about, that kind of thing. And
so load management in baseball until he got another bag
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and so by using skullduggery is the term we will
he is he picked up a massive windfall, a bonanza
from the Rangers. Now the Rangers are owned by a consortium,
but this guy, Ray Davis is said to be the
big money, bad money bag guy behind the Rangers, and
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he forked out one hundred and eighty five million dollars. Now,
don't feel bad for Ray Davis, the guy that's the
principal owner of the Rangers, because he's worth like three billions,
so I think he'll be okay. He made his money
in natural gas pipelines, so that seems like it continues
to make a lot of money. There's no end insight
to that. But in return, here's what the Rangers got.
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They got six starts. Six starts. That's it. And now,
if you look forward, Jacob de Gram will be thirty
six years old in the twilight of his career when
he comes back in likely two seasons gone, so this year,
next year, So I guess the start we're looking at
twenty twenty five. You'll get to Graham. And the contract
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includes a Tommy John surgery clause. So the Rangers and
de Gram knew this was a possibility to put a
clause in the contract. But here's my favorite part, the hutzba,
as my grandfather would say, of baseball negotiations and baseball contracts.
So Tommy John surgery clause, what does that mean, Does
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that mean the Rangers can recoup losses get some of
that one hundred and eighty five million dollars back? Now,
it simply means that there's an extra year option for
the team, which means that now the Rangers if they
want Kim Paider gram anywhere from twenty to thirty seven
million dollars when he's forty years old, so they have
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a new team option. What could possibly go That's a bargain.
What could possibly go wrong with that? The nonsense continues now. Meanwhile,
the Mets are doing a happy dance right now because
they have had a good run. Now, teams not very good,
they're mediocre. The Mets, but their medical staff has hit
three home runs. They not only dodged the de Gram
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Tommy John, they also had a draft pick named Kumar
Rocker a couple of years ago. They did they didn't
sign him. He left to because he was upset. The
Mets were concerned about his arm. He now has Tommy
John surgery and they didn't sign that cheater Carlos Correa
who went to the Twins and his foot has been
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flaring up. So that's a three run, three home run
day for the new York Metropolis now page two here
thumbs up or thumbs down. Thumbs up or thumbs down
on Jacob Degram having a Hall of Fame resume based
on his current body of work, assuming he never wins
another game, assuming he never starts another game. At this moment,
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we're doing the show today. We're not doing the show
five years from now. Jacob de Gram in the Hall
of Fame or not. Thumbs up thumbs down based on
his current resume. So the answer on this two thumbs down.
We're going two thumbs down on this. The Gram not
a Hall of Famer in terms of making Coopers down.
Now I realize Mike Musina is a Hall of Famer,
for God's sakes, and he played in New York for
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the Yankees a lot, and and de Graam played in
New York for the other team, the Mets. Uh, but
why don't we fact check the resume for Cooperstown for
Jacob Gram. So if you look at the actual numbers here,
the selling point is domination, two cy Young Awards, four
time All Stars, won an er title. All that's on
the resume. But when you go below the surface, right,
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when you go below the surface, there is no there
there in terms of the Hall of Fame. Much like
his body has buckled, de Graham in recent years, his
Hall of Fame resume does not hold water. It also
does not pass the sniff test. It does not two
hundred and fifteen regular season starts, five more in the postseason.
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That's it now. The New York media concocted the legend
of the Degraminator for the Metropolitans. In hindsight, it's kind
of like the lyrics of that old Michael Jackson song, right,
It's like a comet de graam where I think it
was gone too soon, burned brightly, or I remember that
burned brightly, blazing across the evening sky, and his dominance
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was quickly gone. So by my malor math, de gram
had about six years where he was really good, and
that's it. That's that's all there is. That's it now.
That's good. That's better than I've had. I haven't had
one good show. I've been here twenty years. I've never
had one good show. But he had six years where
he's really good and the rest of the time undependable.
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Now a lot of people say, well, Sandy Colfax is
the Hall of fame. Well. Kofax pitched twelve seasons. Although
those that know Kofax, the first part of his career sucked.
He didn't become dominant until years later. So but he started.
I think he appeared in almost four hundred games, Sandy Kolfax. Now,
is Jacob de Gram's case to get in because of Coofax?
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Is that strong enough? No? You know who the comps are.
I was trying to figure out who the comps to
the Gram guys that were good for a short amount
of time. Corey Klueber. You know, Corey Klueber's won two
cy Young Awards. He's still pitching. Well, he plays with
the Red Sox. Now they sucked, that's why. But Corey
Klueber's won two cy Young Awards. Not a Hall of famer.
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Tim Linsekom with the Giants, who actually had a longer career.
I don't think of him as a Hall of famer.
He won two cy Young Awards. It was a fourth
time All Star, just like Jacob de Grom, and so
to me, those are the contemporary So if you're gonna
put the Graham in the Hall of Fame, you gotta
put Kluber, and you gotta put Linsicum in the Hall
of Fame. All right? Last word here, So are the
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Rangers now cooked in terms of winning the World Series
without the Gram? The answer is n plus zero. That
is the answer. So I'm going no, They're not cooked
in terms of winning the World Series. I'm gonna beat
Benny Brightside on this. I like what I've seen by
the Rangers so far. The pitching has been much better.
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Some of these guys that have bad resumes have pitched
above their means. That does scare me somewhat because normally,
by the end of the season, if you've been mediocre
your entire career, by the end of the year, you
will be mediocre and you'll suck for a month and
a half or two months of the season, and that
could derail in theory, the Rangers. But no, I'm I'm
Benny Brightside here. I mean it's you play the board
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game figure it out without and Grom's only been there
ten percent of the games. Have played sixty games, so
they played forty percent of the season and de Gram
has only played in six games. They've won all six.
He didn't pitch well the first couple starts. If I
remember correctly, but listen, there's gonna be some snags. Yes,
there will be snags. Will there be complications in the
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dog days after the All Star break. Will the Rangers
have to go out and make a trade for someone
to improve some the back end of the bullpen, if
you will, or the middle part of the bullpen. Yes,
of course, but they can overcome it. Clearly they're committed
to try to win in Holy Ed and Arlington. Batman
are calling from Arlington because they're going for They have
a top notch offense, and the pitching adversities create opportunities.
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And you look around. You got Dane Dunning, John Gray,
Martin Perez. He got off to a good stow. He's
been less than impressive of late Nathan of all these
been the top pitchers, a cy young leader if you will,
in the American League right now for the Rangers. And
so those guys will have the opportunity to write their
name of the book allegends.
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Speaker 1 (30:39):
How about that to the third degree?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
This is one big gets.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Grilled and we bring in the coop down loop for
the third degree.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Grizzly center Jaron Jackson Junior appeared on a podcast this
week where he said that he thinks memphis first round
exit from the playoffs was good for the team as
it has made them hungrier. Ben Yesterday, he said, you
think that John Rant will be suspended for more than
half the season? Will the Grizzlies be able to stay
afloat in the playoff race without him?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, first of all, shouldn't they have been hungry when
they had a chance to actually win in the playoffs.
Wouldn't that have made more sense rather than being hungry
in the offseason. When you get fat out of shape,
I always get a kick out of the schoolch Well,
we're gonna be better now because we know we're hungrier
now because we no do better in the moment. I
don't care if you're hungrier in the offseason. I don't.
I don't. I don't worry about that. But listen, the
(31:27):
answer to the question is, Yeah, the Grizzlies, the way
they play, they can hold their own and hang around
without John Morant, and they can be a playoff team
because they actually try, unlike a lot of the teams
in the NBA that don't try during the regular season.
They treat it like a testing ground and they get
motivated late in the year. The Grizzlies will play hard
(31:48):
all year and they'll have a shot to make the
playoffs again next.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Terrell Davis told TMZ that if Nicola Nicola, Nicola Nicola.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
He's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah. If that, if he's able to win the championship
for the Nuggets, he will cement his place on the
Mount Rushmore of Denver athletes.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, Ben, is he already on there? Well, as you know,
I love Mount Rushmore Talk Coop. I live for that.
It's June. That's what we do here in sports radio
in the month of June, we do Mount Rushmore. But no.
When I think of the all time great Denver athletes,
I think of John Elway, Terrell Davis, I think of
like Nuggets guys, Dan Issel, Alice English, I think of
(32:25):
the for the Rockies. I think of the Blake Street Bombers.
So sure put him up there. Why not next?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Robert Griffin the Third had a pretty ridiculous suggestion this
week when he said that Damar Hamlin should be the
cover athlete on this year's Madden Video Game. Now, Ben,
if you has to take guests on who it actually
will be who you're taking, well, you.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Always go with the quarterback like Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers
as a jet somebody like that. But not not Tamar Hamlin.
That's a jinx. Anyway, how did weaight down? Cope? You passes?
That is? I win? With time to spare with, I'm despair.
I won the game.
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And way we go with password the war Game of Stars. Now,
do we want a couple of pe ones in the
Mallard militia to play? Or do we want some new voices?
That's the question on password the word Game of the Stars.
What do they get any new guys or old guys?
I'll vote for new guys. Okay, So you old guys
(33:45):
are screwed because Eddie doesn't want you to play. So
we've got Adam in Minnesota. Who's gonna play? Hello? Adam?
How you doing big?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Then?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Congrat it's your lucky day, Adam. How's everything in the
Twin Cities? Fantastic?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Tone?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Little rainy?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Right now? Oh cool? Make sure not to drive over
sixty miles an hour. You get a ticket? Okay, I'll
do my best. Yeah, I took one for the team.
I got a ticket a couple of weeks ago. Anyway,
we have you playing. What are you? What are you doing?
You're going to work? Now, you're coming home from work?
What are you got going on? I'm actually heading to
the gym before I go to work. I look at you,
your big stud? Okay? And TC in Tennessee is gonna play? Hello? TC?
(34:25):
Going there, he is, TC ready to go? What brings
you to the show this morning? TC? I'm with you
ever mon? I got home a good laugh before going
to Dieallas says, And me and my my ball Wetherstone.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We're getting rid of the going.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
In to you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Look at that. We're pumping you up for your day.
You got a hard day. We're pumping your ass up.
All right, very good. Here, let's play the game. And uh, Adam,
who do you want to partner up with? Adam? I'll
sit coop for TC.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'll take you big Ben.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
All right, you got me? And what about you? TC?
Who do you want to partner up with? TC? Oh,
that's a bad choice by you. All right, we got
a list of words. Here we go. Let's see Adam,
you were on you're on the air first. Please pick
a number one to ten. Let's go number one with Ben.
(35:19):
Number one. Let's go with noisy Noisy. Yeah, we got nothing. Good, guys,
that's not over, just right over. That's when we play.
When it's over. It's not over all right, you're up TC,
your dad ten nothing though it's looking bad for you.
Go ahead, TC number five, all.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Right, okay, hm hmm, let's see let's oh he's got nothing,
he's got Let's go with.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
M hm m hm oh man.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Uh yes, glucose.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Sugar.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, that is that, that is that is a better right,
That is the right there. Well, I I don't know
why did you pick this word, by the way, Coop,
but you put this on the list. And now that
I think about it, Uh, let's go with uh hemorrhage,
(36:32):
Lady Adam, what do you say? No?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, all right, TC let's go with gore.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Gore g o r e Gore, not al gore gore. H. Now,
we don't want that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Man, I'm I'm in a blank on this taking that.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's a bad number by you, that's a bad number.
How about clot clot? No Number five, number five, very
hard number five. That the word we were looking for.
If your hemorrhage, if you got a clot, it's a
blood clot. Blood was the word we were looking for.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I gave the worst. That was my worst clue of
all time. All right, well, and we won not enough
time for the game. That's ourselves fault.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That ain't my fault.
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not actually a golf story. It's a story of a
hostile takeover. It's a it's a great story, all right now.
You know, I very rarely, very rarely go down this road.
It's a yeah, it's a doozy. I mean, this is
I've been Jones. This is a great story here because
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it is the rare, inappropriate malan monologue about golf. Eddie
shaking his head. Yes, everyone's in agreement here. You got
to go with this. I love it. I mean the
merger heard round the golf world. After many lawsuits and
a lot of billable hours for lawyers here, there and everywhere,
(02:16):
the people at the PGA Tour realized they were not
going to win, and so they decided, screw that, we
will be in business with our enemy and buy that dollar.
That is what they've done. So the PGA Tour teaming
up with the Live Golf people and something known as
(02:38):
the DP World Tour. They've ended hostilities. Don't even know
what that is. But the big three really the big two,
the PGA Tour and then Live run by the Saudi government,
a bankrolled by the Saudi government. They end up now
operating under one single business umbrella. It's a really nice
(03:00):
umbrella with gold and man lots of cash, lots of
cash in that under that umbrella. But the umbrella funded
by the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund. So that's who's
bankrolling this adventure. And let's discuss the question on this one.
(03:21):
I question on this one from your perspective, right, what
is your perspective on the PGA joining forces under one
golf entity with the Saudi government, the Live Golf tour.
So my thoughts on this. You've got Roberto Duran, band
(03:42):
Aid and CNBC, and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make a massive peny.
How much money you think was slipped under the table
to the PGA commissioner. How much money he got? Hey,
well let's get a deal of that, okay, all right,
please make it have all right? So number WHA, let's
(04:04):
go to the judges scorecards here, and you go to
the judges scorecards on this golf merger. And this is universal.
All judges scorecards give the win. Fact. You can say,
don't even go to the judges scorecards. This is a
knockout for the Saudis. Right, this is what they wanted.
They got what they want, They had the money. This
(04:26):
is a major flex. There's no other way to look
at it, right, I mean, from that perspective, that's a KO.
That's it. That's a ko. The PGA Tour, even though
they're talking about being a partnership, who's the one wearing
the pants in this relationship. Who's the one that's got
the money? The Saudi live golf tours got the money,
(04:49):
not the PGA Tour, right, they got chump change in comparison.
So they're the ones, the live golf people that are
gonna be wearing the pants in this relationship. And so
turned out the lot the parties over a PGA Tour.
Someday when we're old I guess I'm old down. But
(05:10):
someday we'll look back and say, hey, I remember when
there's a thing called the PGA Tour. Remember that? Yeah?
Oh yeah. They played all over the United States and
they were the masters of ceremonies for all the big
golf tournaments in the US. And whatever happened to them?
Where did they go? So now the PGA Tour will
just be a membrane of the Saudi Arabian sports washing operation,
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and so there was a brief Cold war. There were
no guns, there was no knives used. There was just
a large war chest of gold coins that were tossed out,
and those that were opportunistic got a big check, got
a lot of money, and those that decided to be
(05:55):
loyal got bupkis in comparison. Right, The Saudi Investment Fund
decided a couple of years ago. That's the amazing thing
about this, how fast this happened. A couple of years ago,
they decided we were gonna get in the golf business,
and they wanted to take on the PGA Tour, and
they did, and boy did they ever. Got a couple
(06:18):
of old Cogers at the PGA Tour completely flat footed,
and they forked out these massive, cartoon sized checks and
right from the Acme store there, the cartoon checks they
handed out, and with each payment, it was another nail
in the coffin because those payments were not going to nobody's.
(06:38):
They were going to somebody's. And as much as people said,
and we don't talk a lot of golf, we did
talk about this story. A couple of years ago when
it popped up and now we revisit it, and people
were like, well, it doesn't matter, there'll be a new
crop of stars and all that. Well, on Tuesday, right
random day in June, the people that run the PGA
tour got together and they quoted Roberto Dran No Moss,
(07:04):
no Moss, that's it. At the Living Tour started back
in October of twenty twenty one, so it hasn't even
been two full years, and within that time it's raised
the white flag for the PGA. Why well, follow the money, right,
(07:27):
follow the money, And this was going to be dragged out.
The Saudi government said, you can't look at our finances.
From what I was reading earlier, you can't look at
our finances because we are being bankful the live golf
people by the Saudi government. So therefore there's no discovery.
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So that was going to drag through the court systems
for quite a long time and every day, every hour.
Lawyers are not cheap, even when you have the on retainer.
Eventually that runs out and you've got problems. So they
decided that's it. Now it's not completely over. Here's the
(08:09):
interesting thing. There is a chance this gets tied up
because of what's the old saying, it's not over till
the fat politician sings. Yeah. Politicians are going to get
involved in this, and there are already some whispers that
some of the Democratic politicians are going to raise a
stank and try to block this merger from happening, so
(08:29):
that will drag this out a little further, so it's
not completely over, but they'll likely get checks also from
the Saudi government, so they'll be okay. All right, now,
page number two here, who are the biggest losers with
a capital L, right, biggest losers for this partnership between
(08:50):
Live Golf and the PGA two. So there are many,
many losers. There are many losers, but we'll start with
the handful of big name golfers who said I'm gonna
be loyal. I'm gonna wrap myself in the flag. Some
of them aren't even American, but they were like, I
want to stand by the PGA tour. I don't support
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cutting off heads like the Saudis do. I'm not gonna go.
So those people look like complete jackasses, Okay, total schmucks.
Because you go down the list here and Roy McElroy
lost gobs of money. Tiger Woods was offered a reported
eight hundred million off. Now Tiger's rich, you said, who
cares eight hundred million? You know who cares. Tiger's great
(09:33):
grandchildren care. That's who cares, because that's their money, the
great great grandchildren of Tiger Woods, because that would have
been their wealth down the line. It's just crazy. And
all the guys that got the massive payouts from the
Live Golf Tour, they've all got the nest egg. And
those that rejected it though me and they were convinced,
(09:56):
they were convinced by the people. This is the big
his scumbag move them. All the people the PGA Tour
convinced them, don't do it, don't standard your principle, you know,
you're a man of integrity. And then they ended up
cutting a deal themselves. They cut a deal themselves. Craziness.
And so now you've got this band aid that's been
(10:18):
ripped off between Live and the PGA Tour. Really PGA
Tour and Live and all that stuff. Clearly, no good
deed goes unpunished. The PGA Tour leadership, who will also
likely all lose their jobs when this is all done,
they will be held responsible. There's no legitimate counter offensive
(10:42):
that you could come up with. Here. There were a
few lawsuits. I mean, essentially what happened is they don't
want to pay the lawyers. They also had a problem
with television because even though people don't grasp this concept,
there were a lot of big names that left the
PGA Tour. And there's a lot of guys you've never
heard of. And golfers are boring anyway, even when you've
(11:05):
heard of them are boring. But when you've never heard
of them, that's like a next level of boredom.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's boredom incarnate, is what that is. Uh. And and
so then you've got this j Monahan, the commissioner of
the PGA Tour, who in general is like the king
of all hypocrites. This cat right, and he got called out.
There were some of the families of nine to eleven
terrorist attack victims who've been very outspoken about this. They
(11:33):
protested at some of these lyft golf tournaments and they
spoke vehemently against the PGA commissioner for doing this. And
he is such a snake if these people are telling
the truth, Like he met with these people and talked
about how, you know, how important this issue was for him,
and how you know, gave all the SOB story about
I knew someone that died on nine to eleven, and
(11:57):
he quickly took the check with the other hand here
and they called the nine to eleven families called the
PGA tour paid Saudi Saudi shills is what they they
said there. And so this guy Monahan, the PGA tour
commissioner Macavelian is the way I would describe his activity there,
(12:18):
what he was up to, betraying. I understand, you gotta
it's business. You gotta have a public and private perspective,
but you really have to go over the top the
way he apparently did. Now, what are they gonna do
the PGA when they talk to the media, and all
that will be peppered with questions. I imagine they do
what about us them? Which is what you often do
in these situations. Ah, you know, listen, everyone's in business
(12:41):
with somebody who does bad things. We do bad things
here in this country, and that's how they'll do it.
And everyone's got an iPhone or some kind of smartphone
that came out of China, and they do bad things
in China. So there will be backlash now there's a
lot of faux outrage. We'll see if it actually transpires
when these big tournaments and really golfs about them majors,
it's not about these other things. And so when that
(13:02):
comes around, we'll see what happens. All right. Now, the
final point on this how far can the Saudi government
go into American sports culture? And the answer is rather scared.
I don't want to go full coast to coast with
my tinfoil hat on. But we had hinted around about
this a while ago, and in this episode with golf
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is proof. The amount of money that they can throw
around if they choose to is insane. It is. You
can't even wrap your arms around the amount of money
that they're playing with here. And to say they have
deep pockets is not even true. They can go all
the way to the middle of the earth and have
nothing but money, endless amounts of money. And so we're
(13:49):
talking about it's like a CNBC documentary, a very popular
series on CNBC. I think I don't think it's on anymore,
called American greed. When you combine scam scoundrels and scandals
and put all them together and everyone's got their price
we know that anyway, we've all I got my price,
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you've got your price, We've all got our price on this.
But the Sovereign Wealth Fund of Saudi Arabia, which is
what they're using the bankroll this golf entity, is valued
at least five hundred billion. What does that mean? That
means if you want to have a scare here, every time,
you know, we all get gas, A little money goes
(14:29):
to the Saudis, they add all to that. But they
can get whatever their heart desires. The people that are
behind this can get whatever they want. They could if
they chose. The rumor is they're now going it's not
even a rumor, they're going after the game of football,
but not American football, but they could. They could go
after our version of football if they want. Now in
(14:53):
a parallel dimension, imagine if you will, a world where
they tap into the Saudi's Sovereign Wealth Fund and get
I don't know, a couple hundred billion, a couple hundred
billion out of that, and they're like, you know what,
we want to buy every NFL team. And let's say
the owners say no. The NFL owners said, we're not
gonna do it. Jerry Jones wants to keep the Cowboys
(15:15):
till he dies, and those other guys want to keep
their team, fine, all right, so they keep their teams.
So then the Saudi people say, Okay, why don't we
buy the XFL or the USFL. Okay, Okay, then we're
gonna wait until Patrick Mahomes contracts up, and Josh Allen
and all these other top young players, and we'll just
pay them three times as much as the NFL will
(15:38):
pay them, so they'll come play in the XFL or
the USFL, and then eventually the NFL will run out
of place. Will also, by the way, whoever the top
five players in the NFL draft are gonna be, we'll
just pay them also. And what's gonna happen? Eventually there
would be an agreement in the NFL and it wouldn't
(16:01):
even take that long. It would happen. This took two years,
and the same thing would happen. You bring Joe Burrow, Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Justin Jefferson, all the top players young players
in the NFL, whoever you think those guys are, and
they would take the money. Of course, they would take
the money, just like the golfers took the money, they
would take the money.
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but we got some good stuff going on right now. Well,
if you like the drama in baseball, our league comes
from baseball, where quietly the Texas Rangers are off to
(17:35):
the greatest start in franchise history. They won again last night.
There has never been a better Ranger team at this
point in the season than right now. Holy Pud Rodriguez
Batman can't believe it. Odamin McDowell is stunned by this development.
So the other shoe, though, has dropped in Arlington. And
(17:58):
this is why we've got good talk radio. So a
follow up to a Malard monologue in a previous edition
of the show, the curtain has come down on one
of the stars of the offseason lot of hype, A
lot of celebration when this guy got his contract. If
you have not heard by now, it is a turnout.
(18:20):
The last the parties over situation for Jacob de Gram.
De Gram is dedune for the Arrangers. He is out.
He's gonna have Tommy John surgery to repair the ligament
in his pitching elbow. So they will transfer a ligament
(18:43):
from another part of his body or a cadaver and
put that into his arm. And he's had that before.
The operation will take place next week, and the timing
means that de Gram is out for the rest of
this season and at least the first part of next season,
but more likely than not, considering how brittle he is
(19:04):
he's out for next year as well for the Texas Rangers.
So that is the story. Let us discuss. I saw
the Graham was all worked up. He was in tears,
trying to hold back tears there when he addressed the
media that cover the Rangers. So the question here as
we talk about his question, did Jacob Degram? Did Jacob
(19:25):
Degram do the Rangers dirty? Did you know I'm dirty? Right? See,
here's the way I'll look at this. Right now, I've
got Michael Jackson, board game and nonsense, and we will
combine all of these things together, and we are going
to make a nice headache, is what we're going to make.
(19:45):
So but to begin this, hey, Jacob de Gram, I'm
not gonna put the onus on him. He played the system.
In fact, if anything, the fault is on the Rangers
in this this little equation. As I was told by
someone years ago, you can ask for whatever you want.
(20:05):
It's the person that gives you the money that's the sucker.
If they give you the money, right you get you
should ask for a lot. You should ask for a lot.
Ask what you want. No one has to give it
to you. Jacob de Gram had a price point in
his head. He was willing to go anywhere. He didn't
want to play for the Mets anymore. Now you could
argue the Mets actually didn't want him because they saw
this coming. But either way, the fault is on the
(20:28):
side of Texas. They didn't read the room. It's a
bad job by them. And Jacob de Gram should rent
out you know what you should do. He should rent
out one of those airport ballrooms. You know, those shysters
that go to your local airport and they come on down,
have breakfast, and I'll tell you how you could be
a gazillionaire at the local easy a hotel right near
(20:50):
the airport, where they charged by the hour for the room.
Come on down. Why not? What the heck? But de
Gram is qualified, this little sister moved Gram. He's qualified
to give a seminar and teach others in baseball his secrets.
I mean, at least a webinar. I say he's qualified
for a masterclass on how to get that dumb money.
(21:13):
Everyone on Wall Street wants that dumb money. Internet people
want that dumb money. And Jacob de Gram got the
dumb money and he did it. How did he do it?
He did it by doing a high wire act for
several years. This has been going on for several years,
and you hear more about it. The medical people say
that this is something that was likely needed two three
(21:34):
years ago by de Gram. He didn't have the operation.
He tried to extend it out, wanted to keep pitching.
What do we always say when they say, ah, you know,
avoid the operation. Eventually you're gonna have the operation. So
a couple of years ago with the Mets, de Gram
his arms started having issues, his elbow started flaring up,
and he continued to pitch, but he didn't pitch all
(21:58):
that often. He missed a lot of time. We told
you hadn't pitched even one hundred innings in a season
in several years. So he limited everything that he was doing.
It's kind of like that strike where you show up
the work, but you don't actually do the work, you
know what I'm talking about, that kind of thing. And
so load management in baseball until he got another bag
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and so by using skullduggery is the term we will
he is he picked up a massive windfall, a bonanza
from the Rangers. Now the Rangers are owned by a consortium,
but this guy, Ray Davis is said to be the
big money, bad money bag guy behind the Rangers, and
(22:42):
he forked out one hundred and eighty five million dollars. Now,
don't feel bad for Ray Davis, the guy that's the
principal owner of the Rangers, because he's worth like three billions,
so I think he'll be okay. He made his money
in natural gas pipelines, so that seems like it continues
to make a lot of money. There's no end insight
to that. But in return, here's what the Rangers got.
(23:04):
They got six starts. Six starts. That's it. And now,
if you look forward, Jacob de Gram will be thirty
six years old in the twilight of his career when
he comes back in likely two seasons gone, so this year,
next year, So I guess the start we're looking at
twenty twenty five. You'll get to Graham. And the contract
(23:29):
includes a Tommy John surgery clause. So the Rangers and
de Gram knew this was a possibility to put a
clause in the contract. But here's my favorite part, the hutzba,
as my grandfather would say, of baseball negotiations and baseball contracts.
So Tommy John surgery clause, what does that mean, Does
(23:49):
that mean the Rangers can recoup losses get some of
that one hundred and eighty five million dollars back? Now,
it simply means that there's an extra year option for
the team, which means that now the Rangers if they
want Kim Paider gram anywhere from twenty to thirty seven
million dollars when he's forty years old, so they have
(24:11):
a new team option. What could possibly go That's a bargain.
What could possibly go wrong with that? The nonsense continues now. Meanwhile,
the Mets are doing a happy dance right now because
they have had a good run. Now, teams not very good,
they're mediocre. The Mets, but their medical staff has hit
three home runs. They not only dodged the de Gram
(24:34):
Tommy John, they also had a draft pick named Kumar
Rocker a couple of years ago. They did they didn't
sign him. He left to because he was upset. The
Mets were concerned about his arm. He now has Tommy
John surgery and they didn't sign that cheater Carlos Correa
who went to the Twins and his foot has been
(24:56):
flaring up. So that's a three run, three home run
day for the new York Metropolis now page two here
thumbs up or thumbs down. Thumbs up or thumbs down
on Jacob Degram having a Hall of Fame resume based
on his current body of work, assuming he never wins
another game, assuming he never starts another game. At this moment,
(25:19):
we're doing the show today. We're not doing the show
five years from now. Jacob de Gram in the Hall
of Fame or not. Thumbs up thumbs down based on
his current resume. So the answer on this two thumbs down.
We're going two thumbs down on this. The Gram not
a Hall of Famer in terms of making Coopers down.
Now I realize Mike Musina is a Hall of Famer,
for God's sakes, and he played in New York for
(25:41):
the Yankees a lot, and and de Graam played in
New York for the other team, the Mets. Uh, but
why don't we fact check the resume for Cooperstown for
Jacob Gram. So if you look at the actual numbers here,
the selling point is domination, two cy Young Awards, four
time All Stars, won an er title. All that's on
the resume. But when you go below the surface, right,
(26:03):
when you go below the surface, there is no there
there in terms of the Hall of Fame. Much like
his body has buckled, de Graham in recent years, his
Hall of Fame resume does not hold water. It also
does not pass the sniff test. It does not two
hundred and fifteen regular season starts, five more in the postseason.
(26:27):
That's it now. The New York media concocted the legend
of the Degraminator for the Metropolitans. In hindsight, it's kind
of like the lyrics of that old Michael Jackson song, right,
It's like a comet de graam where I think it
was gone too soon, burned brightly, or I remember that
burned brightly, blazing across the evening sky, and his dominance
(26:49):
was quickly gone. So by my malor math, de gram
had about six years where he was really good, and
that's it. That's that's all there is. That's it now.
That's good. That's better than I've had. I haven't had
one good show. I've been here twenty years. I've never
had one good show. But he had six years where
he's really good and the rest of the time undependable.
(27:09):
Now a lot of people say, well, Sandy Colfax is
the Hall of fame. Well. Kofax pitched twelve seasons. Although
those that know Kofax, the first part of his career sucked.
He didn't become dominant until years later. So but he started.
I think he appeared in almost four hundred games, Sandy Kolfax. Now,
is Jacob de Gram's case to get in because of Coofax?
(27:31):
Is that strong enough? No? You know who the comps are.
I was trying to figure out who the comps to
the Gram guys that were good for a short amount
of time. Corey Klueber. You know, Corey Klueber's won two
cy Young Awards. He's still pitching. Well, he plays with
the Red Sox. Now they sucked, that's why. But Corey
Klueber's won two cy Young Awards. Not a Hall of famer.
(27:53):
Tim Linsekom with the Giants, who actually had a longer career.
I don't think of him as a Hall of famer.
He won two cy Young Awards. It was a fourth
time All Star, just like Jacob de Grom, and so
to me, those are the contemporary So if you're gonna
put the Graham in the Hall of Fame, you gotta
put Kluber, and you gotta put Linsicum in the Hall
of Fame. All right? Last word here, So are the
(28:13):
Rangers now cooked in terms of winning the World Series
without the Gram? The answer is n plus zero. That
is the answer. So I'm going no, They're not cooked
in terms of winning the World Series. I'm gonna beat
Benny Brightside on this. I like what I've seen by
the Rangers so far. The pitching has been much better.
(28:33):
Some of these guys that have bad resumes have pitched
above their means. That does scare me somewhat because normally,
by the end of the season, if you've been mediocre
your entire career, by the end of the year, you
will be mediocre and you'll suck for a month and
a half or two months of the season, and that
could derail in theory, the Rangers. But no, I'm I'm
Benny Brightside here. I mean it's you play the board
(28:55):
game figure it out without and Grom's only been there
ten percent of the games. Have played sixty games, so
they played forty percent of the season and de Gram
has only played in six games. They've won all six.
He didn't pitch well the first couple starts. If I
remember correctly, but listen, there's gonna be some snags. Yes,
there will be snags. Will there be complications in the
(29:16):
dog days after the All Star break. Will the Rangers
have to go out and make a trade for someone
to improve some the back end of the bullpen, if
you will, or the middle part of the bullpen. Yes,
of course, but they can overcome it. Clearly they're committed
to try to win in Holy Ed and Arlington. Batman
are calling from Arlington because they're going for They have
a top notch offense, and the pitching adversities create opportunities.
(29:42):
And you look around. You got Dane Dunning, John Gray,
Martin Perez. He got off to a good stow. He's
been less than impressive of late Nathan of all these
been the top pitchers, a cy young leader if you will,
in the American League right now for the Rangers. And
so those guys will have the opportunity to write their
name of the book allegends.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
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Here we go, it's maller.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
How about that to the third degree?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
This is one big gets.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Grilled and we bring in the coop down loop for
the third degree.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Grizzly center Jaron Jackson Junior appeared on a podcast this
week where he said that he thinks memphis first round
exit from the playoffs was good for the team as
it has made them hungrier. Ben Yesterday, he said, you
think that John Rant will be suspended for more than
half the season? Will the Grizzlies be able to stay
afloat in the playoff race without him?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, first of all, shouldn't they have been hungry when
they had a chance to actually win in the playoffs.
Wouldn't that have made more sense rather than being hungry
in the offseason. When you get fat out of shape,
I always get a kick out of the schoolch Well,
we're gonna be better now because we know we're hungrier
now because we no do better in the moment. I
don't care if you're hungrier in the offseason. I don't.
I don't. I don't worry about that. But listen, the
(31:27):
answer to the question is, Yeah, the Grizzlies, the way
they play, they can hold their own and hang around
without John Morant, and they can be a playoff team
because they actually try, unlike a lot of the teams
in the NBA that don't try during the regular season.
They treat it like a testing ground and they get
motivated late in the year. The Grizzlies will play hard
(31:48):
all year and they'll have a shot to make the
playoffs again next.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Terrell Davis told TMZ that if Nicola Nicola, Nicola Nicola.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
He's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah. If that, if he's able to win the championship
for the Nuggets, he will cement his place on the
Mount Rushmore of Denver athletes.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, Ben, is he already on there? Well, as you know,
I love Mount Rushmore Talk Coop. I live for that.
It's June. That's what we do here in sports radio
in the month of June, we do Mount Rushmore. But no.
When I think of the all time great Denver athletes,
I think of John Elway, Terrell Davis, I think of
like Nuggets guys, Dan Issel, Alice English, I think of
(32:25):
the for the Rockies. I think of the Blake Street Bombers.
So sure put him up there. Why not next?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Robert Griffin the Third had a pretty ridiculous suggestion this
week when he said that Damar Hamlin should be the
cover athlete on this year's Madden Video Game. Now, Ben,
if you has to take guests on who it actually
will be who you're taking, well, you.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Always go with the quarterback like Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers
as a jet somebody like that. But not not Tamar Hamlin.
That's a jinx. Anyway, how did weaight down? Cope? You passes?
That is? I win? With time to spare with, I'm despair.
I won the game.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
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Speaker 1 (33:24):
And way we go with password the war Game of Stars. Now,
do we want a couple of pe ones in the
Mallard militia to play? Or do we want some new voices?
That's the question on password the word Game of the Stars.
What do they get any new guys or old guys?
I'll vote for new guys. Okay, So you old guys
(33:45):
are screwed because Eddie doesn't want you to play. So
we've got Adam in Minnesota. Who's gonna play? Hello? Adam?
How you doing big?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Then?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Congrat it's your lucky day, Adam. How's everything in the
Twin Cities? Fantastic?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Tone?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Little rainy?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Right now? Oh cool? Make sure not to drive over
sixty miles an hour. You get a ticket? Okay, I'll
do my best. Yeah, I took one for the team.
I got a ticket a couple of weeks ago. Anyway,
we have you playing. What are you? What are you doing?
You're going to work? Now, you're coming home from work?
What are you got going on? I'm actually heading to
the gym before I go to work. I look at you,
your big stud? Okay? And TC in Tennessee is gonna play? Hello? TC?
(34:25):
Going there, he is, TC ready to go? What brings
you to the show this morning? TC? I'm with you
ever mon? I got home a good laugh before going
to Dieallas says, And me and my my ball Wetherstone.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We're getting rid of the going.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
In to you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Look at that. We're pumping you up for your day.
You got a hard day. We're pumping your ass up.
All right, very good. Here, let's play the game. And uh, Adam,
who do you want to partner up with? Adam? I'll
sit coop for TC.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'll take you big Ben.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
All right, you got me? And what about you? TC?
Who do you want to partner up with? TC? Oh,
that's a bad choice by you. All right, we got
a list of words. Here we go. Let's see Adam,
you were on you're on the air first. Please pick
a number one to ten. Let's go number one with Ben.
(35:19):
Number one. Let's go with noisy Noisy. Yeah, we got nothing. Good, guys,
that's not over, just right over. That's when we play.
When it's over. It's not over all right, you're up TC,
your dad ten nothing though it's looking bad for you.
Go ahead, TC number five, all.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Right, okay, hm hmm, let's see let's oh he's got nothing,
he's got Let's go with.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
M hm m hm oh man.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Uh yes, glucose.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Sugar.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, that is that, that is that is a better right,
That is the right there. Well, I I don't know
why did you pick this word, by the way, Coop,
but you put this on the list. And now that
I think about it, Uh, let's go with uh hemorrhage,
(36:32):
Lady Adam, what do you say? No?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, all right, TC let's go with gore.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Gore g o r e Gore, not al gore gore. H. Now,
we don't want that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Man, I'm I'm in a blank on this taking that.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's a bad number by you, that's a bad number.
How about clot clot? No Number five, number five, very
hard number five. That the word we were looking for.
If your hemorrhage, if you got a clot, it's a
blood clot. Blood was the word we were looking for.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I gave the worst. That was my worst clue of
all time. All right, well, and we won not enough
time for the game. That's ourselves fault.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That ain't my fault.
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