July 18, 2024 • 38 mins
Big Ben talks about the latest with 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk requesting a trade amid contract negotiations, Adam Silver not addressing comments made from Knicks owner James Dolan, Maller to the Third Degree, #AskBen, and much more!
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That I know.
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I'm gonna interrupt this wall to wall WNBA coverage to
talk about football. I'm old enough to remember when the
NFL was the king. We'd only talk about the NFL
around here, But not anymore. The tinder box isn't burning,
though it is a burning in the NFL world. After
months of unrest which have been documented right here behind
these microphones.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Late at night, anger and little.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Veiled shots, we have reached a waterloo moment. And if
you have not been paying attention the last couple of days,
the story continues to be the very.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Top of the football universe.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What is going on with the sour puss pass catcher
in Northern California? We've learned now the forty nine ers
and Brandon Io continue to be in a stalemate, as
it has gone on here for some time, over the
worth of the player. He wants a show me the
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money situation. He would like the nice big fat contract. Now,
Adam Schefter tells us, I guess that's a credible source.
He tells us that the San Francisco football team does
not does not intend to trade Brandon Iowac even though
he asked.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
For a trade. So they're saying no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
There's a disagreement in the value, which is often the
case in these things. Brandon Ayuk would like to be
paid the market rate, which is not the market rate.
You know, it's like the market rate. There's the store
brand and then there's the whole foods price. Yeah, he
wants the whole foods price. So that is red and
meat on the bone is what it is. So let
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us discuss the question. Randon Auk and the forty nine
ers have a disagreement on value or his value here
this coming amid the trade conversation which has been out there.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Can you untangle this one? Please? Can you please untangle
this one? So I've got sea turtles, fruit loops, and
deck of.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Cards and we will combine all of these things together.
We'll put them in the hopper and hopefully we'll get
a winning combination. So a Now, this is a story
that has been out there It's not like this is
all of a sudden new but we're getting close to
the start of the season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We're less than fifty days away from.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first real NFL game, and teams have begun training camp,
and so this has been bubbling up.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But now we are at a point where you're like,
wait a minute. Now these subtle messages are no longer subtle.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It was a cloak and dagger mission, but now things
have been cranked up a couple decimal points here.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The volume has been cranked up a few notches.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Think of this like marine life and you've got a
couple of sea turtles your loggerheads.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Because they're at loggerheads.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The forty nine Ers would like to pay Brandon Iyok
based on what he has done, which, to be fair,
is not all that much considering how he has talked
about in some circles. Now the player is looking to
get the publishers, clearing house sweep Steaks payday.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
They would like to get all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And all the goodies and all that being paid at
the pinnac of their superpowers.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The reason this is an extra big quagmire for the
forty nine ers as they try to iron out the
details on this is because if you look at the
other side of the field, Deebo Samuel, some say, dynamic playmate,
always kills the rams.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Others say he's just a running back masquerading as a
wide receiver. But Deebo Samuel, who's been marginalized somewhat in
recent years because of Christian McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel likely is
in his last year with the San Francisco football team.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So this is a gigantic fork.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
In the road for the Niners because if they get
rid of Brandon Ayok, they trade him, likely just for
some draft picks, and then Deebo Samuel leaves. After that,
they're they're all gone. And they did draft a wide
receiver in the first round, trying to fill the void,
the impending void. All right, now, page two, we pivot
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now to Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Why why not?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Because the big chatter over the last couple of months
has been the Green Bay Football team is going to
sign Jordan.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Louff to a mega, mega, mega.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Millions contract because we're very concerned about how much money
these people make. The quarterback who played well for good
stretches of time in his first opportunity it's a small
sample size. Contract extension expected to be done. It was
expected to be done before the start of the NFL season. However,
the Packers did not did not allow Jordan Love to
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provide a update. When asked by inquisitive members of the
fourth estate the media to ask for an update, he
was asked, and how negotiations are going?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He reported a training camp on Tuesday of this week,
so he's asked about that. Love received the question about
whether he wishes to have his contract extension done prior
to the start of camp. And yet before Jordan Law
could get going and actually, you know, answer the question,
a Packer pr representative stepped in like a Guardian angel,
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cutting off any answer and any further questioning, how dare
you ask a player who's been trying to get a
new contract whether or not he's going to get a
new contract. So why was Jordan Love blocked from answering
a rather benign question about Packer contract talks? So I
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have a theory on this. I Love turned into the
Kellogg's froot Loops mascot to can Sam he did he smiled,
and I watched this clip a couple times. He parroted
the PR hacks news to come line. So some PR
stooge from the packers said news to come and then
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a few seconds later, after a bit of a pause,
then Jordan Love when the question was completed, there he
repeated the three word phase that the PR tody had said.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So what does that tell us?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That tells us that it is more likely than not
that Jordan Love's contract is in.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
The final stages. The tea's are being crossed.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The eyes are being dadded, it's being vetted by lawyers,
the doc you sign is being completed. Because otherwise, why
would Jordan Love have just repeated the PR hack statement
if he's not getting a new contract. If that's not happening,
why would you just repeat the company line.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There'd be no reason for you to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You could say no, I thought I was getting a contract,
I'm not getting a contract, and then you crank up
the pressure on the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But he didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So that is to me, that's a dead way that
in the next few days of the next couple of
weeks before the start of the regular season, maybe just
like the last couple of days before the regular season,
they'll be an announcement that Love was gonna get a
new contract. I'd be stunned if he doesn't at this point.
All right now, last word here, staying in the NFC
North and we go down to just across the Wisconsin
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state line there to Illinois to Chicago. After some very
public consternation about claims of ownership and demands of all kinds.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Of thingam A. Jiggs Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Caleb Williams took his his pink nail polish and lipstick
and all that and agreed to a rookie contract with
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
We are told the number one overall number.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That his deal includes the standard fifth year option. There
was some chatter this week in recent days that the
contract would not include that, that there would be a
guarantee of no franchise tag that we do not believe
is part of it either.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
However, the chatter around the.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
NFL is that Caleb Williams did it attempt but failed
to get paid as an LLC. Yes, he wanted to
be paid as an LLC and he wanted the money
to go into that, and therefore he would have been
able to avoid having to pay a certain amount of
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extra money called taxation, and he also wanted his rookie
deal to be paid part of it is a forgivable loan.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Now what does that mean. I'm told that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Would have resulted in Williams getting the money tax free
until the loan was forgiven. That that would have been
as many as a decade or ten years, decade, ten
years down the line in the future. So, Kyla Williams,
if this reporting is accurate, the Bears quarterback looking to
dodge taxes with his Chicago rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
How do you react to this? So I would argue, Well,
everyone tries to pay as little in taxes as they can.
This is a red flag. If I'm the Bears, this
is a red flag. Caleb Williams is already futzing around
with a deck of cards. He's playing manipulation rummy, and
he's trying to finagle with the Bears over the taxes
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and indirectly messing with Uncle Sam.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
More on that later.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But Caleb Williams hasn't done a damn thing as an
NFL player. He is being paid on speculation. I know
that's how the draft works. You're being paid on speculation.
But my experience here not a proven commodity, and we
believe in the field.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Of dreams model. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
If you build a resume as a successful quarterback, a
proven core, even if you're not proven, even if you're marginal.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You don't even have to play a leaf football. It
helps if you play a leaf football, but you don't
have to.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You can be a little above average like Jared Goff,
and the bags of money will come falling in from
the heavens. You're gonna get the money. You're gonna get paid,
lots and lots and lots of money, hand over fist.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So like you, the whole fuson around with this. You
get this standard contract.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Now, I don't think there should be a standard contract,
but that's how the NFL has done business for years
because of certain people getting too much money, and there
were a lot of complaints back in the day, and
so they made this the way it is. And there's
a boiler played contract. You get, it's all slotted.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I get it, and then you move on. But the
whole LLC thing, now, that's a lot of hutzpah. As
my grandfather would say back in there. That's a lot
of HOOTZBA.
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from pro Bouncy Ball. That's right, high drama, high drama
this week, the last couple of days, my first swing
in the batter's box. Here a member of the upper crust.
The cartel of basketball has gone rogue, gone rogue. I
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assume you heard by now it was like you talked
about quite a bit. But when I've tuned in, I've
heard mostly WNBA talk, so maybe not Nick's owner James Dolan.
James Dolan wrote a letter. He went scorched earth. He
turned on the flamethrower against the NBA and their new mega, mega,
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mega million dollars, billion dollar check, that billion dollar media
rights deal, and also unloaded on Adam Silver in particular.
Now Dolman accusing the League of trying to disrupt the
regional sports network industry, regional cable television involving sports. But wait,
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there's more. He attacked the revenue sharing policies. Let's give
you the money quote, saying that the NBA has made
the move to an NFL model, deemphasizing and depowering the
local market.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Close quote.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So let us discuss the question. Adam Silver was given
an opportunity to respond. Why did Adam Silver sidestep addressing
the Knicks owner James Dolan and his concerns over the
direction of the business of basketball, which is plausibly what
Adam Silver is hired to do to manage the business
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of basketball. So I've got Guillotine Central Casting and Rusty Pelican,
and we will.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Combine all of these things together.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And we are not going to Nickel and daim you,
which is assume what Dolan is concerned about some Nickel.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
And Dimond going on here. So number wa.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, thank you, James. Now that's actually number you
said three times. She did number three, Now it's four times.
So James Dolan is looking out across the serengetti and
he's worried about the golden goose. Now you don't normally
find a goose on the Serengetty, but he's worried about
the Golden Goose. He inherited the goose from his father.
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Jim Dolan was the guy who gave birth to the bird.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's worth all the money.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And now Adam Silver and his minions are looking to
destroy the bird.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Right. They've rolled in. Just imagine in that little cartoon
bubble over your head.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Adam Silver has rolled in with a couple of people
from the planet he came from outside the Milky Way.
They have rolled in the guillotine and they're looking to
place the neck, the very large neck of the goose,
underneath the guillotine. And you know what happens when the
thing falls down. If Madison Square Garden Network, better known
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by its nickname MSG, if that goes away, so does much.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Of the old family money and so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
James Dolan is a menacing character in this story, but
he has a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Of skin in the game. And one of the.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Reasons that the Knickerbockers exists the way they do with
the Dolan family is because of MSG programming for MSG
and so Dolan because he's called like he's a nut job,
like he's used of crazy things over the years and
he gets dismissed as a troublemaker. However, right, he actually
has some good points here, such as bad customer service,
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and say what you want about the product of basketball
being garbage. And so many of you complain about pro
bouncy ball when I talk about it, and you do
a lot of shows during the playoffs in the NBA
about pro bouncy ball, and you get very upset. But
from a user standpoint, it's not good. As a fan
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the customer service. You need five or six streaming services
to watch all of your team's games. Forget the other games,
just your team's games. Now, ultimately, it is always about
the money, right the NBA.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
This is where the money is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's in streaming, it's not in cable, and so people
are going there. Of course, what ends up happening is
you circle back to the cable because in the end,
with all these nickel and dime operations, you end up
costing more money if you want to watch everything. Now,
what ends up happening is a lot of people turn
to the Russian websites. And you should not do that.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's wrong. Eddie tells me it's wrong to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But it's a much better user service to watch on
the pirate websites than the actual websites where people are
willing to pay for the NBA product. What does that
say about the business of basketball? Whereas the user, the customer,
you're better off. It's more convenient for you to have
a one stop shop. You can watch every game on
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the Russian website, shall we say? As opposed to if
you go through the NBA's means of doing business, you
have to have five or six different streams, and you
have different tiers and all that.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Now the money part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Adam Silver as the guardian of the game, paid by
the owners. He is looking to take the league office
a massive, a massive slice of the seventy six million
billion dollar media rights, a seventy six billion with a
B like Ben and So Dolan's looking at this, He's like,
wait a minute. James Dolan's like, so you're taking over
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six billion dollars. You're siphoning that off for no good
reason in the middle of the day.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You're just not not the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You're taking six or six billion dollars being siphoned out
of the in the media Rice deal. And many aristocrats
are afraid to speak up because buy an NBA team.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's as a toy for rich.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
People, and you don't want to be kicked out of
the club and all that stuff. You don't want to
deal with the blowback and all that, and so you're
worried about that part of it. James Dolan, though, doesn't care.
He's unhinged, all right, turning the NBA completely.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
This is these are his words, not my words.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
He says that Adam Silver's turning the NBA into a
risk free, idiot proof business. That's that's what Dolan said.
James Dolan said it due to revenue pooling. You are
dead wrong teed to be neither a success nor a failure, which,
if I remember correctly I've been in school in a while.
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I think that is a form of communism socialism, right,
everyone gets the same, right in that somewhere in that,
in that little category. So that's what Dolan's complaining about.
But ultimately it's about MSG And if the NBA was
doing the same exact thing and taking six billion dollars
but they were keeping the regional cable model intact, then
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Dolan would not be complaining as publicly as he is.
But there is infighting and I will promise you that
he's not alone, because there were other owners, old school
owners in the NBA that also have a horse in
the race or a dog in the fight when it
comes to regional cable. And if they devalue that completely,
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then they're gonna lose a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Also.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now page two we go to Sweet Home, Chicago, where
Yuphimi and Eugene in Chicago, Eugene did not stop sending
me stories the entire time I was away. I kept
getting messages from Eugene in Chicago about stories that I
could not have cared less about.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
But anyway, one of the.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Stories involving Chicago indirectly es actually is directly. It's just
about a player leaving Chicago. There are reports that are
pinpointing the people's team, the Clippers, as a potential landing
spot for zach Lavine. And so the question is where
are you at on that as a fit. So my response,
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and I'll give this to Eugene in Chicago and all
the other guys that are in the Windy City there,
I give this one side eye that there's some kind
of fit there between zach Lavine from the Bulls and
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
There I don't believe that the Bulls are actually going
to trade Zach Lavine.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's the first thing, because if you pay attention to
the chatter around the NBA, he has been available for
three plus years.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I've done the show every night for the most part
for many, many years. And over the last three or
four years, Zach Levine's name has popped up in trade
rumors early and often, and yet he remains in the
Windy City. Plus, if you look at Zach in terms
of connecting him with the people's team, he would be
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out of central casting for the Clippers. He's a player
by basketball standards, is middle aged, he's in that weird
middle of career period, he's got a hefty contract, and
he's injury prone. A lot of empty calories there, a
lot of empty calories and a lot of meaningless statistics.
A stat bandito, as we like to say in these parts,
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Zach Levine.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Check this out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He has played five hundred and eighty regular season games.
How many playoff games has he played with the Bulls.
And he came up with the Timberwolves before that, So
it was in Minnesota for a few years and went
to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Been in with the Bulls for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Five hundred and eighty regular season games. He has played
not one, not two, not three, four four a four
pack of postseason games. And a lot of that is
because he doesn't elevate the player play of others around you.
That he's a good stat stuffer and he'll fill the
box score and you'll have a nice hammer dunk now
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and again, and that's exciting and people like that, but
in terms of actually making people around him better, he
hasn't done that. Now it's the old change of scenery.
And maybe I'll go to a team like the Clippers
and be.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Better and uh yeah, good luck.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Final point, we go to Viva Las Vegas, where Bronni
James actually did not suck at a time you should
not suck. Video at eleven. Nevertheless, he overall still has
had more bad than good, even with a stat line
that did not pop your eyeballs out when you looked
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at it. Now, I bring this up because FS one's
Rachel Nichols. Yes, she's working there. Rachel Nichols says the
criticism of Bronnie James' summer league performance is unfair, and
she's one of several that have said this is Eddie
told me, Brian know who sat in this chair for
me is singing the sorrows of Bronnie James, and what
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a tough, tough road this is for Bronnie James. But
in terms of Rachel Nichols saying that the criticism of
Bronnie James Summer League performances is unfair, is that a
valid or invalid take? So it is invalid with a
capital eye capital eye. And now I'll just use the
Rachel Nichols commentary. She used someone named Isaiah Wong as
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an example. Now why would she use somebody named Isaiah Wong?
You don't know who that is, but he was the
fifty fifth pick of the twenty twenty three NBA draft,
the same slot where Bronnie James was picked.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You don't know who he is at all. But that's
the example.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Jesus Well, nobody obsessed when he had a bad game,
and now people are upset with Bronnie James. I'm paraphrasing,
but that whole conversation is a night out. It's a
dinner at the rusty Pelican seafood Shack, is what it is.
It's the catch of the day. It's a red herring.
It is a red herring. Bronnie James was not treated
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like Isaiah Loong by anyone. He got a four year,
eight million dollars guaranteed contract from the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Didn't hurt it, didn't deserve it, got it. Why did
he get it?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Because he was born on third base, right, he had
the silver spoon and the Netpo baby and all that
Netbo James. Now, Isaiah Wong went to college, did things
the right way. He got you know what, He got
the standard two way contract. He played four minutes in
the NBA for the Indiana paces that's who drafted him.
Four minutes the Indiana Pacers. He mostly played for a
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team called the mad Ants. I'm told that's in the
G League, So that's where he played. He played four
minutes in the NBA, played for the mad Ants of
the G League. He made the minimum salary you can make.
He was fired by the Indiana basketball team. They released him,
and he's now with a G League team for the Suns.
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That's the story of Isaiah Wong. Now you look at
Bronnie James has got to say which mansion he wants
to live in? What private airline, what Gulfstream plane he
wants to fly, and.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
What car service he wants to pick him up? And
which armed guard is going to protect him.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's a whole different world. It's a whole different You
don't feel bad for a guy like it. Who feels bad,
you're a loser.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You're a loser.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If you feel bad for Bronnie James, shame on you.
That's not someone you feel bad for.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
What are you? Adope? It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's Mallard. How about that?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
To the third degree? This is one big fan gets grill.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
There are plenty of reports this week that DeVante Adams
is looking to get out of Vegas, and many analysts
say he will be gone by the trade deadline now.
Adams agents addressed these reports as baseless and unfounded, as
and there have been no trade talks.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Ben, do you believe any of that?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I learned when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
When you find bees, there's gonna be honey, right, Bees
and honey go together. This continues to be a storyline
around the Raiders Davante Adams has a wandering eye, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Adams, his agent comes out one day says.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Deny, deny, deny, no trade, and then he goes on
some fledgling podcasts and plays foot.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Seat with Aaron Rodgers. So make your mind up.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Next, with Kawhi Leonard getting replaced on Team USA's Team
USA Basketball, many assumed that it was a joint decision
between USA Basketball and the Clippers. However, the Clippers front
office said it was just USA Basketball's call.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
And they were just a pointed with the decision. Are
you buying that?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
No, of course, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Never any how many times do I It's never a
joint or mutual decision.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Someone acts first.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
When a relationship ends, someone steps up and reacts first.
And I get Steve Walmer's got a lot invested in
that into a dome, and they want Kawhi there to
actually play in the playoffs and not get hurt like
he does every You know, he's not been healthy.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
One year with the Clippers. It's ridiculous. So I'm real,
relatively confident.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
The Clippers made some phone calls and said get Kawhi
out of the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Next, Derek Jeter was asked in a recent interview if
Aaron Boone being too buddy buddy with the players is
to blame for their summer slide.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Jeter said, he isn't buying that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What do you think I'm buying the fact that Derek
Jeter is vanilla and he wouldn't say anything bad about
a former teammate and Aaron Boone. But Aaron Boone is spineless.
That's the problem. Not about being nice. He's spineless. He's
a middle manager. He follows the Nerds recipe. He doesn't
add his own spice. That's part of the problem with
the Yankees. He's not about being a hard guy or
tough guy, any of that. So how do we go
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Speaker 4 (30:04):
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Speaker 1 (30:31):
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Speaker 4 (30:36):
We ride the way. The reading of the questions for
Ben and Friends, we go over to the Cooper Loop.
Justin Cooper would ask.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Ben, Sirias, Sean would like to know what do y'all
do for your birthday? It's mine today and I'm going
to the coliseum in Oakland.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know that that's on my list to do
on my birthday, to go to the coliseum in Oakland.
I'm not high up on my list. Good luck there, Sean.
You know I usually work on my birthday.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
I don't what a party animal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I know it's wild, like extra cake or something like that.
I don't know worthy point now, like Sean's still young
enough where I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think we're at the point now, Eddie where we
don't really get that worked up unless it's like a
big brown number because humans love brown numbers.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I don't really get all worked up. But bout
my birthday, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, it is your birthday in national holiday. Do you
have a birthday month like my wife does?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Is that what you do?
Speaker 9 (31:33):
No? But I do enjoy my birthday and I get
to kind of do whatever I want, and usually that
entails getting some delicious cake and eating wherever I want
for dinner.
Speaker 10 (31:43):
Basically, okay, Lorraine, I usually cry and wish I had friends, Ben, Wow,
you have.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Plenty of They're not real friends, they're radio friends. We
have a lot of radio.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
That's that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, I hear you, all right, Cooperloop.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Pretty much just dinner somewhere nice.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Now, I usually like, wait till the weekend, and there's
my birthday falls during the week.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Just wait till the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Good luck there and serious Sean, I thought he was
in la I told him to go to an Italian restaurant.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I don't think he did, though. All Right, what's next.
What do we have?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Art Puffin would like to know.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Oh, it's a big art Puffin's chime in.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Have you ever met somebody that you were starstruck by?
And who was it?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
No, not as an adult when I when I was
a kid, Yeah, there were people.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I was like, Wow, that's pretty pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Pretty wild that I'm in the same same room. I remember,
I've told the story before in the podcast. When I
was a kid, there was a famous comedian. I had
no idea who this guy was, but my mom thought
this guy was a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And I happened to be at a bar mitzvah.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And he was there a different event, and it was
this guy named Don Rickles, who was a famous comedian
when I.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Was a kid, and so I with him, didn't you did? Yeah,
I went up to him.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He was a jerk to me, but but that was
his stick, I guess when I was an adult. No, when
I started, I started in radio as a young guy,
I interview with like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
When I first started, it was like a huge deal,
but lately not so much. Now, what about you, Eddie.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
I mean, I've been around a lot of famous athletes
and for the most part, I'm not starstruck. I'm like, oh,
that's pretty cool, but I don't. One guy I did
kind of was like wow, and that was Bill Russell,
and I just was like, damn, that guy.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
What a legend, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
I don't know when when I saw him, and of
course he's tall, and I was like gosh, because I
was a little bit starstruck by Bill Russell.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
But you're not even a basketball I know.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
It just just one of the legends of all time.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Lorraine.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Oh yeah, I just talked about this the other day.
One of my biggest ones was Mariah Carey when I
was working at the Honda Center and I was like.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Super like close, like I could sniffer.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
She smelled like lavender. But you're not You're not supposed
to say anything and just supposed to act normal or
else you can get fired.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Did you sniff?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Though?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Obviously I breathed when I walked by. My nose is
good at that got a good sniffer.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I was in an elevator.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was in an elevator of Lorena, back when USC
had these great football teams every year with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
They were like a pro football team.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I was in an elevator was Spike Lee and
it was me him and this Rick Fox and the
guy that the coliseum in LA that ran me over.
And Spike Lee looked at me like, what are you
doing in here? Like he thought I was gonna kill
him or something.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
I thought you were gonna say he smelled really good.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Ben, No, I didn't smell him Lorena. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Coop, No, not really.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Uh, you had no choice, Coop, as he did. You
were famous people.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, I can think of like there are certain people
that if I were to meet, I think I would
be starstruck by, but it's it's limited to probably music acts.
Like if I met like James Hetfield from Metallica, I
would probably be starstruck or Maynard from Tool.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Or Obama that would be that's that's random.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Not a musician.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But no, okay, yeah, exactly from Hawaii though, I was
just in Hawai.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
What is next? A ferg dog?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Hi Fergie?
Speaker 7 (35:14):
He would like to know are pretzels chips or crackers
and trying to start some crap and he's talking about
the you know, the crunchy ones, not not soft pretzels.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
What is what are the choices chips or what chips
or crackers?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It's that's sold. It's a chip because it's it's a chip.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
I think I gotta agree. Yeah, I gotta agree with
Ben on this one.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's a chip. Yeah, it's you get the haze, you
get the ruffles, you get the hard pretzels.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Chip to be made out of tortillas or potatoes, No.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It does not. That's incorrect.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yes, no, plantain, there.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Are there are flower tortillas and that the pretzels made
out of flour. Right, No, I've debunked your argument, right,
take off fretzel.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's a chip. It is a chip. That's the way
it is.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
The way that I look at it is I feel
like chips are crunchier than crackers, and it doesn't get
too like to like much more crunchy than they.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Get a different pretzels a chip.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't think so that the pretzel is in the
same category like the hot dog.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Like the hot dog us in that category. There's certain
food certain food dishes that are in between.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I'm gonna get cracker.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
I'm going cracker.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Is it taco a sandwich?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
What is your reasoning behind choosing cracker?
Speaker 9 (36:34):
I just think when I think of the like, the
texture and the taste of a pretzel, I would compare
it more to a cracker than a chip.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
What kind of crackers you eat? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Saltines? I guess that's that's the closest one that I
can think.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Cracker, Join the crackers crew and the cracker Be careful?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
What is next here? What do we have?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Just by the way the artist sports talk save that
one for Queen of Hearts On Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
That's yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
More of a great love advice. What are you talking?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
All right, let's go with the King Rory. He wants
to know. Is it weird to watch kids cartoons by yourself?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
No, I think it would be weirder if you were
with like other grown ups.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
I think, I.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Don't know, how about other kids, Yeah, other kids, yourself?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I would know we would watch my little Pony with me?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, any I mean, yeah, that's you know, I don't
I guess if it's I don't know.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I haven't like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I feel like Network out of business.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Did, but I don't know if that was if that
was a rumor or not, but I think it did.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
I got some a little weird.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
I say, it's a little weird.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
No, not by yourself, but other people weird.
Speaker 9 (37:50):
It's weird all the way around.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
You just I mean, I have a kid, so.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's not weird.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
If cheese is weird, like if you don't have Yeah,
but I do it by myself.
Speaker 9 (37:59):
I've heard it's good to though I've never been not
cured pizza.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yes, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
On the spectrum. On the weird spectrum,
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I'm gonna interrupt this wall to wall WNBA coverage to
talk about football. I'm old enough to remember when the
NFL was the king. We'd only talk about the NFL
around here, But not anymore. The tinder box isn't burning,
though it is a burning in the NFL world. After
months of unrest which have been documented right here behind
these microphones.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Late at night, anger and little.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Veiled shots, we have reached a waterloo moment. And if
you have not been paying attention the last couple of days,
the story continues to be the very.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Top of the football universe.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What is going on with the sour puss pass catcher
in Northern California? We've learned now the forty nine ers
and Brandon Io continue to be in a stalemate, as
it has gone on here for some time, over the
worth of the player. He wants a show me the
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money situation. He would like the nice big fat contract. Now,
Adam Schefter tells us, I guess that's a credible source.
He tells us that the San Francisco football team does
not does not intend to trade Brandon Iowac even though
he asked.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
For a trade. So they're saying no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
There's a disagreement in the value, which is often the
case in these things. Brandon Ayuk would like to be
paid the market rate, which is not the market rate.
You know, it's like the market rate. There's the store
brand and then there's the whole foods price. Yeah, he
wants the whole foods price. So that is red and
meat on the bone is what it is. So let
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us discuss the question. Randon Auk and the forty nine
ers have a disagreement on value or his value here
this coming amid the trade conversation which has been out there.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Can you untangle this one? Please? Can you please untangle
this one? So I've got sea turtles, fruit loops, and
deck of.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Cards and we will combine all of these things together.
We'll put them in the hopper and hopefully we'll get
a winning combination. So a Now, this is a story
that has been out there It's not like this is
all of a sudden new but we're getting close to
the start of the season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
We're less than fifty days away from.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first real NFL game, and teams have begun training camp,
and so this has been bubbling up.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But now we are at a point where you're like,
wait a minute. Now these subtle messages are no longer subtle.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It was a cloak and dagger mission, but now things
have been cranked up a couple decimal points here.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The volume has been cranked up a few notches.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Think of this like marine life and you've got a
couple of sea turtles your loggerheads.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Because they're at loggerheads.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The forty nine Ers would like to pay Brandon Iyok
based on what he has done, which, to be fair,
is not all that much considering how he has talked
about in some circles. Now the player is looking to
get the publishers, clearing house sweep Steaks payday.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
They would like to get all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And all the goodies and all that being paid at
the pinnac of their superpowers.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The reason this is an extra big quagmire for the
forty nine ers as they try to iron out the
details on this is because if you look at the
other side of the field, Deebo Samuel, some say, dynamic playmate,
always kills the rams.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Others say he's just a running back masquerading as a
wide receiver. But Deebo Samuel, who's been marginalized somewhat in
recent years because of Christian McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel likely is
in his last year with the San Francisco football team.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So this is a gigantic fork.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
In the road for the Niners because if they get
rid of Brandon Ayok, they trade him, likely just for
some draft picks, and then Deebo Samuel leaves. After that,
they're they're all gone. And they did draft a wide
receiver in the first round, trying to fill the void,
the impending void. All right, now, page two, we pivot
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now to Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Why why not?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Because the big chatter over the last couple of months
has been the Green Bay Football team is going to
sign Jordan.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Louff to a mega, mega, mega.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Millions contract because we're very concerned about how much money
these people make. The quarterback who played well for good
stretches of time in his first opportunity it's a small
sample size. Contract extension expected to be done. It was
expected to be done before the start of the NFL season. However,
the Packers did not did not allow Jordan Love to
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provide a update. When asked by inquisitive members of the
fourth estate the media to ask for an update, he
was asked, and how negotiations are going?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He reported a training camp on Tuesday of this week,
so he's asked about that. Love received the question about
whether he wishes to have his contract extension done prior
to the start of camp. And yet before Jordan Law
could get going and actually, you know, answer the question,
a Packer pr representative stepped in like a Guardian angel,
(07:11):
cutting off any answer and any further questioning, how dare
you ask a player who's been trying to get a
new contract whether or not he's going to get a
new contract. So why was Jordan Love blocked from answering
a rather benign question about Packer contract talks? So I
(07:32):
have a theory on this. I Love turned into the
Kellogg's froot Loops mascot to can Sam he did he smiled,
and I watched this clip a couple times. He parroted
the PR hacks news to come line. So some PR
stooge from the packers said news to come and then
(07:56):
a few seconds later, after a bit of a pause,
then Jordan Love when the question was completed, there he
repeated the three word phase that the PR tody had said.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So what does that tell us?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That tells us that it is more likely than not
that Jordan Love's contract is in.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
The final stages. The tea's are being crossed.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The eyes are being dadded, it's being vetted by lawyers,
the doc you sign is being completed. Because otherwise, why
would Jordan Love have just repeated the PR hack statement
if he's not getting a new contract. If that's not happening,
why would you just repeat the company line.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There'd be no reason for you to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You could say no, I thought I was getting a contract,
I'm not getting a contract, and then you crank up
the pressure on the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But he didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So that is to me, that's a dead way that
in the next few days of the next couple of
weeks before the start of the regular season, maybe just
like the last couple of days before the regular season,
they'll be an announcement that Love was gonna get a
new contract. I'd be stunned if he doesn't at this point.
All right now, last word here, staying in the NFC
North and we go down to just across the Wisconsin
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state line there to Illinois to Chicago. After some very
public consternation about claims of ownership and demands of all kinds.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Of thingam A. Jiggs Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Caleb Williams took his his pink nail polish and lipstick
and all that and agreed to a rookie contract with
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
We are told the number one overall number.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That his deal includes the standard fifth year option. There
was some chatter this week in recent days that the
contract would not include that, that there would be a
guarantee of no franchise tag that we do not believe
is part of it either.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
However, the chatter around the.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
NFL is that Caleb Williams did it attempt but failed
to get paid as an LLC. Yes, he wanted to
be paid as an LLC and he wanted the money
to go into that, and therefore he would have been
able to avoid having to pay a certain amount of
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extra money called taxation, and he also wanted his rookie
deal to be paid part of it is a forgivable loan.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Now what does that mean. I'm told that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Would have resulted in Williams getting the money tax free
until the loan was forgiven. That that would have been
as many as a decade or ten years, decade, ten
years down the line in the future. So, Kyla Williams,
if this reporting is accurate, the Bears quarterback looking to
dodge taxes with his Chicago rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
How do you react to this? So I would argue, Well,
everyone tries to pay as little in taxes as they can.
This is a red flag. If I'm the Bears, this
is a red flag. Caleb Williams is already futzing around
with a deck of cards. He's playing manipulation rummy, and
he's trying to finagle with the Bears over the taxes
(11:17):
and indirectly messing with Uncle Sam.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
More on that later.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But Caleb Williams hasn't done a damn thing as an
NFL player. He is being paid on speculation. I know
that's how the draft works. You're being paid on speculation.
But my experience here not a proven commodity, and we
believe in the field.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Of dreams model. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
If you build a resume as a successful quarterback, a
proven core, even if you're not proven, even if you're marginal.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You don't even have to play a leaf football. It
helps if you play a leaf football, but you don't
have to.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You can be a little above average like Jared Goff,
and the bags of money will come falling in from
the heavens. You're gonna get the money. You're gonna get paid,
lots and lots and lots of money, hand over fist.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So like you, the whole fuson around with this. You
get this standard contract.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Now, I don't think there should be a standard contract,
but that's how the NFL has done business for years
because of certain people getting too much money, and there
were a lot of complaints back in the day, and
so they made this the way it is. And there's
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from pro Bouncy Ball. That's right, high drama, high drama
this week, the last couple of days, my first swing
in the batter's box. Here a member of the upper crust.
The cartel of basketball has gone rogue, gone rogue. I
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assume you heard by now it was like you talked
about quite a bit. But when I've tuned in, I've
heard mostly WNBA talk, so maybe not Nick's owner James Dolan.
James Dolan wrote a letter. He went scorched earth. He
turned on the flamethrower against the NBA and their new mega, mega,
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mega million dollars, billion dollar check, that billion dollar media
rights deal, and also unloaded on Adam Silver in particular.
Now Dolman accusing the League of trying to disrupt the
regional sports network industry, regional cable television involving sports. But wait,
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there's more. He attacked the revenue sharing policies. Let's give
you the money quote, saying that the NBA has made
the move to an NFL model, deemphasizing and depowering the
local market.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Close quote.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So let us discuss the question. Adam Silver was given
an opportunity to respond. Why did Adam Silver sidestep addressing
the Knicks owner James Dolan and his concerns over the
direction of the business of basketball, which is plausibly what
Adam Silver is hired to do to manage the business
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of basketball. So I've got Guillotine Central Casting and Rusty Pelican,
and we will.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Combine all of these things together.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And we are not going to Nickel and daim you,
which is assume what Dolan is concerned about some Nickel.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
And Dimond going on here. So number wa.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, thank you, James. Now that's actually number you
said three times. She did number three, Now it's four times.
So James Dolan is looking out across the serengetti and
he's worried about the golden goose. Now you don't normally
find a goose on the Serengetty, but he's worried about
the Golden Goose. He inherited the goose from his father.
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Jim Dolan was the guy who gave birth to the bird.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's worth all the money.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And now Adam Silver and his minions are looking to
destroy the bird.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Right. They've rolled in. Just imagine in that little cartoon
bubble over your head.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Adam Silver has rolled in with a couple of people
from the planet he came from outside the Milky Way.
They have rolled in the guillotine and they're looking to
place the neck, the very large neck of the goose,
underneath the guillotine. And you know what happens when the
thing falls down. If Madison Square Garden Network, better known
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by its nickname MSG, if that goes away, so does much.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Of the old family money and so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
James Dolan is a menacing character in this story, but
he has a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Of skin in the game. And one of the.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Reasons that the Knickerbockers exists the way they do with
the Dolan family is because of MSG programming for MSG
and so Dolan because he's called like he's a nut job,
like he's used of crazy things over the years and
he gets dismissed as a troublemaker. However, right, he actually
has some good points here, such as bad customer service,
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and say what you want about the product of basketball
being garbage. And so many of you complain about pro
bouncy ball when I talk about it, and you do
a lot of shows during the playoffs in the NBA
about pro bouncy ball, and you get very upset. But
from a user standpoint, it's not good. As a fan
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the customer service. You need five or six streaming services
to watch all of your team's games. Forget the other games,
just your team's games. Now, ultimately, it is always about
the money, right the NBA.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
This is where the money is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's in streaming, it's not in cable, and so people
are going there. Of course, what ends up happening is
you circle back to the cable because in the end,
with all these nickel and dime operations, you end up
costing more money if you want to watch everything. Now,
what ends up happening is a lot of people turn
to the Russian websites. And you should not do that.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It's wrong. Eddie tells me it's wrong to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But it's a much better user service to watch on
the pirate websites than the actual websites where people are
willing to pay for the NBA product. What does that
say about the business of basketball? Whereas the user, the customer,
you're better off. It's more convenient for you to have
a one stop shop. You can watch every game on
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the Russian website, shall we say? As opposed to if
you go through the NBA's means of doing business, you
have to have five or six different streams, and you
have different tiers and all that.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Now the money part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Adam Silver as the guardian of the game, paid by
the owners. He is looking to take the league office
a massive, a massive slice of the seventy six million
billion dollar media rights, a seventy six billion with a
B like Ben and So Dolan's looking at this, He's like,
wait a minute. James Dolan's like, so you're taking over
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six billion dollars. You're siphoning that off for no good
reason in the middle of the day.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You're just not not the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You're taking six or six billion dollars being siphoned out
of the in the media Rice deal. And many aristocrats
are afraid to speak up because buy an NBA team.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's as a toy for rich.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
People, and you don't want to be kicked out of
the club and all that stuff. You don't want to
deal with the blowback and all that, and so you're
worried about that part of it. James Dolan, though, doesn't care.
He's unhinged, all right, turning the NBA completely.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
This is these are his words, not my words.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
He says that Adam Silver's turning the NBA into a
risk free, idiot proof business. That's that's what Dolan said.
James Dolan said it due to revenue pooling. You are
dead wrong teed to be neither a success nor a failure, which,
if I remember correctly I've been in school in a while.
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I think that is a form of communism socialism, right,
everyone gets the same, right in that somewhere in that,
in that little category. So that's what Dolan's complaining about.
But ultimately it's about MSG And if the NBA was
doing the same exact thing and taking six billion dollars
but they were keeping the regional cable model intact, then
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Dolan would not be complaining as publicly as he is.
But there is infighting and I will promise you that
he's not alone, because there were other owners, old school
owners in the NBA that also have a horse in
the race or a dog in the fight when it
comes to regional cable. And if they devalue that completely,
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then they're gonna lose a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Also.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now page two we go to Sweet Home, Chicago, where
Yuphimi and Eugene in Chicago, Eugene did not stop sending
me stories the entire time I was away. I kept
getting messages from Eugene in Chicago about stories that I
could not have cared less about.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
But anyway, one of the.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Stories involving Chicago indirectly es actually is directly. It's just
about a player leaving Chicago. There are reports that are
pinpointing the people's team, the Clippers, as a potential landing
spot for zach Lavine. And so the question is where
are you at on that as a fit. So my response,
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and I'll give this to Eugene in Chicago and all
the other guys that are in the Windy City there,
I give this one side eye that there's some kind
of fit there between zach Lavine from the Bulls and
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
There I don't believe that the Bulls are actually going
to trade Zach Lavine.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's the first thing, because if you pay attention to
the chatter around the NBA, he has been available for
three plus years.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I've done the show every night for the most part
for many, many years. And over the last three or
four years, Zach Levine's name has popped up in trade
rumors early and often, and yet he remains in the
Windy City. Plus, if you look at Zach in terms
of connecting him with the people's team, he would be
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out of central casting for the Clippers. He's a player
by basketball standards, is middle aged, he's in that weird
middle of career period, he's got a hefty contract, and
he's injury prone. A lot of empty calories there, a
lot of empty calories and a lot of meaningless statistics.
A stat bandito, as we like to say in these parts,
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Zach Levine.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Check this out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He has played five hundred and eighty regular season games.
How many playoff games has he played with the Bulls.
And he came up with the Timberwolves before that, So
it was in Minnesota for a few years and went
to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Been in with the Bulls for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Five hundred and eighty regular season games. He has played
not one, not two, not three, four four a four
pack of postseason games. And a lot of that is
because he doesn't elevate the player play of others around you.
That he's a good stat stuffer and he'll fill the
box score and you'll have a nice hammer dunk now
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and again, and that's exciting and people like that, but
in terms of actually making people around him better, he
hasn't done that. Now it's the old change of scenery.
And maybe I'll go to a team like the Clippers
and be.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Better and uh yeah, good luck.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Final point, we go to Viva Las Vegas, where Bronni
James actually did not suck at a time you should
not suck. Video at eleven. Nevertheless, he overall still has
had more bad than good, even with a stat line
that did not pop your eyeballs out when you looked
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at it. Now, I bring this up because FS one's
Rachel Nichols. Yes, she's working there. Rachel Nichols says the
criticism of Bronnie James' summer league performance is unfair, and
she's one of several that have said this is Eddie
told me, Brian know who sat in this chair for
me is singing the sorrows of Bronnie James, and what
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a tough, tough road this is for Bronnie James. But
in terms of Rachel Nichols saying that the criticism of
Bronnie James Summer League performances is unfair, is that a
valid or invalid take? So it is invalid with a
capital eye capital eye. And now I'll just use the
Rachel Nichols commentary. She used someone named Isaiah Wong as
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an example. Now why would she use somebody named Isaiah Wong?
You don't know who that is, but he was the
fifty fifth pick of the twenty twenty three NBA draft,
the same slot where Bronnie James was picked.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You don't know who he is at all. But that's
the example.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Jesus Well, nobody obsessed when he had a bad game,
and now people are upset with Bronnie James. I'm paraphrasing,
but that whole conversation is a night out. It's a
dinner at the rusty Pelican seafood Shack, is what it is.
It's the catch of the day. It's a red herring.
It is a red herring. Bronnie James was not treated
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like Isaiah Loong by anyone. He got a four year,
eight million dollars guaranteed contract from the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Didn't hurt it, didn't deserve it, got it. Why did
he get it?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Because he was born on third base, right, he had
the silver spoon and the Netpo baby and all that
Netbo James. Now, Isaiah Wong went to college, did things
the right way. He got you know what, He got
the standard two way contract. He played four minutes in
the NBA for the Indiana paces that's who drafted him.
Four minutes the Indiana Pacers. He mostly played for a
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team called the mad Ants. I'm told that's in the
G League, So that's where he played. He played four
minutes in the NBA, played for the mad Ants of
the G League. He made the minimum salary you can make.
He was fired by the Indiana basketball team. They released him,
and he's now with a G League team for the Suns.
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That's the story of Isaiah Wong. Now you look at
Bronnie James has got to say which mansion he wants
to live in? What private airline, what Gulfstream plane he
wants to fly, and.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
What car service he wants to pick him up? And
which armed guard is going to protect him.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's a whole different world. It's a whole different You
don't feel bad for a guy like it. Who feels bad,
you're a loser.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You're a loser.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If you feel bad for Bronnie James, shame on you.
That's not someone you feel bad for.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
What are you? Adope? It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's Mallard. How about that?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
To the third degree? This is one big fan gets grill.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
There are plenty of reports this week that DeVante Adams
is looking to get out of Vegas, and many analysts
say he will be gone by the trade deadline now.
Adams agents addressed these reports as baseless and unfounded, as
and there have been no trade talks.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Ben, do you believe any of that?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I learned when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
When you find bees, there's gonna be honey, right, Bees
and honey go together. This continues to be a storyline
around the Raiders Davante Adams has a wandering eye, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Adams, his agent comes out one day says.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Deny, deny, deny, no trade, and then he goes on
some fledgling podcasts and plays foot.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Seat with Aaron Rodgers. So make your mind up.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Next, with Kawhi Leonard getting replaced on Team USA's Team
USA Basketball, many assumed that it was a joint decision
between USA Basketball and the Clippers. However, the Clippers front
office said it was just USA Basketball's call.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
And they were just a pointed with the decision. Are
you buying that?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
No, of course, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Never any how many times do I It's never a
joint or mutual decision.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Someone acts first.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
When a relationship ends, someone steps up and reacts first.
And I get Steve Walmer's got a lot invested in
that into a dome, and they want Kawhi there to
actually play in the playoffs and not get hurt like
he does every You know, he's not been healthy.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
One year with the Clippers. It's ridiculous. So I'm real,
relatively confident.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
The Clippers made some phone calls and said get Kawhi
out of the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Next, Derek Jeter was asked in a recent interview if
Aaron Boone being too buddy buddy with the players is
to blame for their summer slide.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Jeter said, he isn't buying that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What do you think I'm buying the fact that Derek
Jeter is vanilla and he wouldn't say anything bad about
a former teammate and Aaron Boone. But Aaron Boone is spineless.
That's the problem. Not about being nice. He's spineless. He's
a middle manager. He follows the Nerds recipe. He doesn't
add his own spice. That's part of the problem with
the Yankees. He's not about being a hard guy or
tough guy, any of that. So how do we go
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We ride the way. The reading of the questions for
Ben and Friends, we go over to the Cooper Loop.
Justin Cooper would ask.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Ben, Sirias, Sean would like to know what do y'all
do for your birthday? It's mine today and I'm going
to the coliseum in Oakland.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know that that's on my list to do
on my birthday, to go to the coliseum in Oakland.
I'm not high up on my list. Good luck there, Sean.
You know I usually work on my birthday.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
I don't what a party animal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I know it's wild, like extra cake or something like that.
I don't know worthy point now, like Sean's still young
enough where I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think we're at the point now, Eddie where we
don't really get that worked up unless it's like a
big brown number because humans love brown numbers.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I don't really get all worked up. But bout
my birthday, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, it is your birthday in national holiday. Do you
have a birthday month like my wife does?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Is that what you do?
Speaker 9 (31:33):
No? But I do enjoy my birthday and I get
to kind of do whatever I want, and usually that
entails getting some delicious cake and eating wherever I want
for dinner.
Speaker 10 (31:43):
Basically, okay, Lorraine, I usually cry and wish I had friends, Ben, Wow,
you have.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Plenty of They're not real friends, they're radio friends. We
have a lot of radio.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
That's that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, I hear you, all right, Cooperloop.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Pretty much just dinner somewhere nice.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Now, I usually like, wait till the weekend, and there's
my birthday falls during the week.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Just wait till the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Good luck there and serious Sean, I thought he was
in la I told him to go to an Italian restaurant.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I don't think he did, though. All Right, what's next.
What do we have?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Art Puffin would like to know.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Oh, it's a big art Puffin's chime in.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Have you ever met somebody that you were starstruck by?
And who was it?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
No, not as an adult when I when I was
a kid, Yeah, there were people.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I was like, Wow, that's pretty pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Pretty wild that I'm in the same same room. I remember,
I've told the story before in the podcast. When I
was a kid, there was a famous comedian. I had
no idea who this guy was, but my mom thought
this guy was a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And I happened to be at a bar mitzvah.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And he was there a different event, and it was
this guy named Don Rickles, who was a famous comedian
when I.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Was a kid, and so I with him, didn't you did? Yeah,
I went up to him.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He was a jerk to me, but but that was
his stick, I guess when I was an adult. No, when
I started, I started in radio as a young guy,
I interview with like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
When I first started, it was like a huge deal,
but lately not so much. Now, what about you, Eddie.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
I mean, I've been around a lot of famous athletes
and for the most part, I'm not starstruck. I'm like, oh,
that's pretty cool, but I don't. One guy I did
kind of was like wow, and that was Bill Russell,
and I just was like, damn, that guy.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
What a legend, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
I don't know when when I saw him, and of
course he's tall, and I was like gosh, because I
was a little bit starstruck by Bill Russell.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
But you're not even a basketball I know.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
It just just one of the legends of all time.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Lorraine.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Oh yeah, I just talked about this the other day.
One of my biggest ones was Mariah Carey when I
was working at the Honda Center and I was like.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Super like close, like I could sniffer.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
She smelled like lavender. But you're not You're not supposed
to say anything and just supposed to act normal or
else you can get fired.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Did you sniff?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Though?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Obviously I breathed when I walked by. My nose is
good at that got a good sniffer.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I was in an elevator.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was in an elevator of Lorena, back when USC
had these great football teams every year with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
They were like a pro football team.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I was in an elevator was Spike Lee and
it was me him and this Rick Fox and the
guy that the coliseum in LA that ran me over.
And Spike Lee looked at me like, what are you
doing in here? Like he thought I was gonna kill
him or something.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
I thought you were gonna say he smelled really good.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Ben, No, I didn't smell him Lorena. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Coop, No, not really.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Uh, you had no choice, Coop, as he did. You
were famous people.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, I can think of like there are certain people
that if I were to meet, I think I would
be starstruck by, but it's it's limited to probably music acts.
Like if I met like James Hetfield from Metallica, I
would probably be starstruck or Maynard from Tool.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Or Obama that would be that's that's random.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Not a musician.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But no, okay, yeah, exactly from Hawaii though, I was
just in Hawai.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
What is next? A ferg dog?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Hi Fergie?
Speaker 7 (35:14):
He would like to know are pretzels chips or crackers
and trying to start some crap and he's talking about
the you know, the crunchy ones, not not soft pretzels.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
What is what are the choices chips or what chips
or crackers?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It's that's sold. It's a chip because it's it's a chip.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
I think I gotta agree. Yeah, I gotta agree with
Ben on this one.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's a chip. Yeah, it's you get the haze, you
get the ruffles, you get the hard pretzels.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Chip to be made out of tortillas or potatoes, No.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It does not. That's incorrect.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yes, no, plantain, there.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Are there are flower tortillas and that the pretzels made
out of flour. Right, No, I've debunked your argument, right,
take off fretzel.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's a chip. It is a chip. That's the way
it is.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
The way that I look at it is I feel
like chips are crunchier than crackers, and it doesn't get
too like to like much more crunchy than they.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Get a different pretzels a chip.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't think so that the pretzel is in the
same category like the hot dog.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Like the hot dog us in that category. There's certain
food certain food dishes that are in between.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I'm gonna get cracker.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
I'm going cracker.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Is it taco a sandwich?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
What is your reasoning behind choosing cracker?
Speaker 9 (36:34):
I just think when I think of the like, the
texture and the taste of a pretzel, I would compare
it more to a cracker than a chip.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
What kind of crackers you eat? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Saltines? I guess that's that's the closest one that I
can think.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Cracker, Join the crackers crew and the cracker Be careful?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
What is next here? What do we have?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Just by the way the artist sports talk save that
one for Queen of Hearts On Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
That's yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
More of a great love advice. What are you talking?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
All right, let's go with the King Rory. He wants
to know. Is it weird to watch kids cartoons by yourself?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
No, I think it would be weirder if you were
with like other grown ups.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
I think, I.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Don't know, how about other kids, Yeah, other kids, yourself?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I would know we would watch my little Pony with me?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, any I mean, yeah, that's you know, I don't
I guess if it's I don't know.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I haven't like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I feel like Network out of business.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Did, but I don't know if that was if that
was a rumor or not, but I think it did.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
I got some a little weird.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
I say, it's a little weird.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
No, not by yourself, but other people weird.
Speaker 9 (37:50):
It's weird all the way around.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
You just I mean, I have a kid, so.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's not weird.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
If cheese is weird, like if you don't have Yeah,
but I do it by myself.
Speaker 9 (37:59):
I've heard it's good to though I've never been not
cured pizza.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yes, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
On the spectrum. On the weird spectrum,
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