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May 24, 2017 55 mins

Ben Maller talks Kyrie to the rescue, the 5 second rule, Maller to the Third Degree, Odell Beckham Jr.'s shoe deal, and Password: Word Game of the Stars!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Ben Maller Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Now, if you had Marcus Smart scoring
a zillion points to the Boston Celtics, he had a
great game, right, seven of ten from three point shooting
in the previous game, Game three, and it was back
to reality for Marcus Smart, who was called a different

(00:24):
name by Marv Albert during the broadcast. But these Celtics
guard who for all intensive purposes, has replaced Isaiah Thomas,
took nine shots. He made one of them, one of
five from three point range. And if they had gotten
they being Boston, just a little bit out of Marcus Smart,
they likely would have won this game. So a very

(00:45):
winnable opportunity. But the Cleveland Cavaliers rally back and the
buzzword of the week continued for the Cavaliers. Not a
masterpiece by Lebron James. In fact, the stat line miss
leading considering the fact that it was Kyrie Irving that
did most of the damage, most of the damage in

(01:07):
that third quarter when Cleveland outscored Boston by seventeen points
in the third quarter. So there is some context that
is required because if you said, well, Lebron had thirty
four points six assists and five rebounds. That's not a
bad performance, and those numbers are not bad. But Lebron
was not the centerpiece of the Cavaliers come back. That

(01:28):
was Kyrie Irving, who for a period of time had
an out of body experience, and he was so good
in the third quarter, I'm starting to think the earth
is flat. That's how good Kyrie Irving was for Cleveland,
hitting shots all over the place, and the Cavaliers, who
were just a pedestrian team in the first half, they
were nothing spectacular, They weren't terrible. Boston played better in

(01:49):
the first quarter of the second quarter was even. The
Cavaliers shot forty seven percent in the first half, in
the second half seventy one percent. Seventy one percent shooting
in the second half, and that's how you turn a
ten point deficit into a thirteen point win. And now
the Celtics are down three games to one and the

(02:12):
Cleveland Cavaliers can wrap it up on Thursday. But this
was again more about Kyrie Irving. I wanted to talk
about it because Kyrie Irving had a playoff career high
forty two points on fifteen of twenty two from the floor,
and it was what he said after the game. Irving
they stuck on Mike Wright in his face on the

(02:33):
TV broadcast and Kyrie Irving said, quote, we need to
hit adversity to grow. That was the quote from Kyrie Irving.
And the reaction I had to that, I was like,
I was pointing at my TV and I was laughing.
I said, what kind of bizarro world is Kyrie Irving
living in? And I wanted to talk and get in

(02:56):
depth on that, and I'll tell you why I said that.
And now leading off, any problem the Cavaliers have had
against Boston, any problem, and they're very small problems have
been what they've been self inflicted. Cleveland played disinterested basketball
in the second half in Game three. We've chronicled that,
and in the first quarter they were sloppy. And you

(03:20):
play within in different approach, You're going to allow the
Celtics to have a chance. Now, in my handbook, and
I've written and rewritten this handbook many times, complacency does
not count as adversity. You can't like interchange adversity and complacency,
because that's the issue here for Cleveland. When they have

(03:40):
not looked particularly good at a couple of points the
last two games, Kyrie Irving was pretty much piggybacking off
Lebron James and his buzzword he said the other night,
talking about adversity. That's a big buzzword Lebron cooked up
for this series. Now in addition, the Cavaliers, unless I've
missed up and I'd love you for you to tell

(04:01):
me if I've missed something, I've I've not paid any
attention to it. If i have missed it, it's gone
right over my head here. But Calves have had no distress,
There's been no suffering, and so the adversity label, which
is now the talking point for the Cavaliers, let's nip
that in the bud. You gotta keep in mind that
that is by designed. Cleveland has benefited greatly from location, location, location.

(04:26):
They are in the JB Conference. They pick and choose
when they want to play, They pick and choose when
they want to play hard. There have been no crippling injuries,
none at all. For a second, it looked like Kyrie
Irving hurt his ankle and that could have been shifting
everything around in the basketball world, right all that everything
would have been jumbled up, no game changing events. The

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cavaliers have had to overcome. There's been none of that.
Let's hear from Kyrie Irving the man that believes the
planet you are standing on right now is na round
that NASA has lied to you the based program not
only in America, but in Russia and in China and

(05:09):
Japan and all these other countries. They are they are
a bunch of Khan people and they have gotten together.
And all those photographs of planet Earth are they're not real.
They're just an illusion, and the planet ex actually flat.
Here's Kyrie again trying to go with the narrative of
adversity for his team. It was one of those games

(05:31):
that you know, we had to fight through it and
we had to earn it. And you know that that
Boston Celtics teams coach well, very well coached. They gave
us everything they had and we had to withstand some
runs in the third and fourth quarter. We were able
to withstand him and create a separation for ourselves. Kyrie,
you said that Celtic teams well coached. Can I get

(05:54):
a list of the teams that aren't well coached, just
so I can compare and contrast, like the well coached
teams and the team that aren't well coached. Just I'm curious.
I just want to know. Here's more from Kyrie was
limping around for a second, clearly playing to the cameras.
His ankle looked mutilated, and then he rose back up

(06:16):
immediately and wailah. He was wonderful. What the hell happen?
I'm just thankful that I've twisted my ankle so many
times that plays like that. Um, you know, you have
two choices. Either you could, you know, sit there and
kind of will in the sorrow of you actually twisted
your ankle or captured the moment. My ajournaline is still
going at this point, so I'm pretty sure when I

(06:36):
get home, I'm my body will probably hate me. But
it's the magnitude of the moment and what's at stake.
And I wasn't coming out for any any margin. I wasn't.
I wasn't coming out. I knew how much we needed
this game, and how much my teammates needed me, the
importance of me leading these guys as well as bron
So you're a gladiator, Kyrie, You're a gladiator. Did he
just use the word sorrow with a sprained ankle. I've

(07:00):
never heard anyone mentioned the word sorrow involved with the
sprained ankle. That's have you heard I've never heard that before.
That's that's that's awesome. Isn't that great? Maybe that's because
he was born in Australia. That's like an in an
Australian thing. No, can I hear that? I want to
hear that again. So Kyrie Irving has a twists his

(07:22):
ankle a little bit and he mentions the word sorrow.
Did you let's listen here we go. I'm just thankful
that I've twisted minkle so many times that plays like that. Um,
you know you have two choices outther you. Could you know,
sit there and kind of will in the sorrow of
you actually twisted your ankle or captured the moment? Was
it roll in the sorrow? Is that what he said?

(07:44):
Is that? What was the word before? It was? I
know the sorrow part there? Couldn't understand the word before that.
It wasn't rolling sorrow. I'm just thankful that I've twisted
minkle so many times that plays like that. Um, you
know you have two choices out of you, could you know,
sit there and kind of will and the sorrow? Will
he said, will and the Sorrow. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

(08:08):
The Will and the Sorrow? So like Will and Grace,
what's he getting at there? Will and the Sorrow? Was
that somebody trying to act act all smart, like a
brainy act. And then Will and the Sorrow? Okay, it's
a new one. Did he learn that the two weeks
he was at Duke? Did he? Did he learn now?

(08:29):
When he? Maybe he learned that when he was in
New Jersey because he I think he went to high
school in New Jersey. Do you think he actually went
to class though he's such a good basketball player, they
probably didn't have to go to class. I would think not.
I won't know about you, Ben, but I'm using that
from now on. Will, Will and the Sorrow. Yeah, it's good.
I think we should all use that whenever we have

(08:50):
a bad segment, which very rarely happened. Ever since we
stopped giving out the phone number, the show's gone through
the roof here. But if we ever do end up
having a step back, then we'll will in the sorrow.
That's what we'll do. Here's lebron James Lebronji. Now, all
professional athletes are kind of cut out of the same cloth.

(09:13):
Here in the respect that they want everyone to believe
that they have the toughest possible things going on in
their lives. That adversity is everywhere. We mentioned the quote
from Kyrie which piggybacked off Lebron James. Now the question
is about closing out the Boston Celtics, and listen to
Lebron give a song and dance about the level of

(09:35):
difficulty that the Cavaliers are going to face, because our
game is always the hardest, and then also you're doing
it in Boston's gonna make it even harder, you know.
So you know, we have to go in with the
bunker mentality as we had in Game one and game two,
to go on and do what we do. But we
have to defend. We have to execute offensively, we have
to have low turnovers, and we have to we have

(09:58):
to try to make them miss because they you know,
some of those guys play a lot better at home.
You know, it's just how a game be played. But
we played a game and we'll see what happens. What
the hell are you talking about? They just Cleveland just
won by forty four points in Boston. The Celtics played
better at home. Some of those guys play who plays

(10:22):
better on the Celtics at home. They've been a much
better team in Cleveland than they were at home. Let's stop.
Let's stop as long as the Cavaliers show up and
are able to make it to the arena on time.
Now that there will be some foul calls that go
against the Cavaliers, the NBA would really like to see
an extra extra game in addition to the five games

(10:45):
that we're getting, get game on Thursday. They would love
a game this week because you want to build up
the hype around the NBA Finals. It's it's a little
tougher to do that when there's no game over the weekend.
So the marketing department for the NBA would really like
to see Cleveland lose Game five on Thursday. But that

(11:07):
does not mean that they aren't going to lose the
game on Thursday. Right. The final point here, the adversity
in this particular series is all on the side of
the Boston Celtics. Here, if you want to play that game,
they lost their MVP, they're all star out for the playoffs,
and Boston was put in the organ grinder. We mentioned

(11:31):
the forty four point loss at home on Friday, the
most embarrassing performance in the history of the Celtics franchise.
And so if you want to give a scoreboard on
misfortune and hardship, then the Celtics are not going to win.
That They're not. It's the Ben Maller Show on Fox
Edmund Dallas, Steamboat Willie Garcia. We have live base we

(11:57):
whole action and if you listen into the podcast, if
the game's still going on while we're doing this on
the podcast, ball, that would be something. But as we
are doing the show live, the Cardinals, the cheating Cardinals,
and the good guy Dodgers are tied at one in
the thirteenth inning. The Dodgers have two hits in twelve

(12:18):
completed innings of baseball, and they're in the bottom of
the thirteen. Claytonshaw went into the ninth and uh wild
pitch brought home the tying run. I would find YASMANI
grandall ten million dollars. That's would I think that might
like draw like a grievance. You'll have one job as
a catcher. One joy that was that was a pass ball,

(12:40):
that was not a wild pitch. What he should have
caught the ball. I would have caught the ball. I
would have, as I'm a trained professional athlete, I could
have caught that ball. I would have stopped the ball
from going all the way to backstop. And then he
looked around. No, no, no, no, how do know who
the ball is? Where the ball is? So he sounded like,
I don't think he embarrassing. It's an embarrassing job by him.

(13:03):
Some extra baseball here in Los Angeles. Not good? You
know why it's not good, Eddie? Why is it not good?
Because that game's on our affiliate in LA right now.
We're not on in LA right on the rating Los
Angeles cannot hear us. Wow, the smart ones are on.
iHeart satellite. Hello, I'd say satellite, but we cover up
by some youth soccer game. Again. Actually, you're an AYSL

(13:25):
game on tonight. But the night before it was like
USA and Ecuador or something. Okay, last night it was
England and uh, who is it Belize or some Belie.
Let me tell if there's one thing I know about
our guys that are truck drivers. They want to hear
what's going on with the Belize soccer world. That's what
they want. But it was something like Belie. No it's

(13:46):
very important, belies like, no, it's very important. Listen, it
was it was Guinea, that is, Eddie. Let me tell
you it was Guinea that is on the pulse of
the audience. Is what that sure? We're I think we
should give more updates on international soccer. I think it's
in Africa. Not sure football And no I'm not do
not call if you're gonna give me the same old logument.
It's all the Dodgers. The Dodgers to bed it now,

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it's only a game in May. The cheating Cardinals have lost.
All is right in the world. The good guys have
won the game. How long before our LA listeners can
now hear us on the radio three hours of Dodger
post game programming in LA. We'll be on maybe for
the last segment of our show. Right, Well say the
best that we will be like the Cavaliers, Eddie. Well,

(14:38):
we'll just have complacency and we'll go through the motions.
We'll just kind of, you know, work around everything. But
the how did they win the game? By the way,
kek Hernandez with a double I guess Jonathan Broxton, he's
always sucked at Dodger Stadium with the Dodgers. He looks
like Scores. He's a bum. I don't care. I don't

(15:00):
like him. He's a terrible. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weeknights at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. All Right, Spen Maller Show on Fox, and
you get at us on Twitter at Ben Maller at
Ben Maller. Darryl writes, Sin says Clayton Kershaw suffers from

(15:27):
i'm aphobia. The fear of birds is that I don't
think he spelled that right or I didn't say it right.
Will says, I think tonight you'll be covered up by
rugby with a Senegal playing on Serious X. Well, I hope, so,
I hope it'd be great. I know what truck drivers

(15:49):
want to hear. They want to hear rugby. That's what
they want. Big demand, give me more rugby. That's just
what you need, yes, exactly, all right. So meanwhile, let's
talk about an issue we yesterday we broke down. I
had great reaction on the email. People really enjoyed the
debate about a tuna fish shame which and a tuna

(16:10):
steak sandwich by the guy and his girlfriend that called
up from Oregon. I was compelling, it was entertaining, it
was mildly stimulating radio. So today I would like to
challenge and have some conversation. Challenge you to a conversation
about the five second rule. Do you, first of all,
know what the five second rules? Any most men know

(16:33):
what the five second rule is. Occasionally it's been referred
to as the three second rule. I'm old school. I
go with the five seconds, and it involves a very
simple concept. It's not that hard drop a little food
and there's a certain window of time. I say five seconds,
other people say three seconds. If you're very fast and

(16:54):
you're able to pick the food up, no harm, no foul,
even though you dropped the food and it's been exposed
to contamination. If it's a small amount of time, you're good.
I bring this up because while watching on TNT the
postgame coverage too, the Kevler stuff to go check this out,

(17:16):
and they had a whole spread of food in front
of Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley, and Shaquille O'Neill,
and I didn't catch the beginning of it. So I
really don't know why the food was there. I assume
it was just to keep Charles focused and Shack focused.
So they just put a bunch of ribs and mac
and cheese and some other stuff. Wouldn't that hurt their
focus in front of these guys. Well no, because the

(17:38):
food was in front of the camera, so they had
to look at the food, and then they allowed them
to eat while they were on. It was very, very odd.
So I'm watching this and they're all talking, having a
great times. It's a fine show. I think it's a
really good show. And Ernie Johnson is a true believer
in the five seconds because he starts eating some mac

(17:58):
and cheese while like Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neil are
going at it. And so Ernie Johnson is eating the
mac and cheese, and then, to my amazement, he drops
a little piece. Because he eat the mac and cheese
with a fork, sometimes it falls off the side of
the fork, and so on live television, Ernie Johnson is
eating mac and cheese, which is just great television. He

(18:18):
then drops some of the mac and cheese on the
countertop which had a bunch of paper and it appeared
to fall on one of the pieces of paper there,
and then Ernie, very smoothly, he went and he picked
it up off the table and he popped at his
mouth started tooting. So he's a believer in the five
second rule. Yeah, countertop though that's not floor. I mean different.

(18:42):
It was paper and there's ink on paper, so that
could be toxic. Would you drink ink out of a printer?
I don't think it's you can compare the two. I disagree.
Ernie Johnson. There, Ernie Johnson is a daredevil. He is
a non conformist. He is a rebel on live television

(19:05):
to eat mac and cheese that has fallen down and
you lean, no, it's not it is I've worked on
you've worked in TV. People people are pigs in television.
They're disgusting. They never clean that stuff. It's not a lot.
They have people specifically to clean and I will I
will tell you, Eddie the five second rue. I've looked

(19:26):
it up and I've double checked it. The five second
rule does not only apply to the floor. It's any
food that's been dropped and exposed to contamination. And that
mac and cheese on TNT was exposed to contamination. That
was an exposed piece of mac and cheese and Ernie Johnson,
he might be he might be in the hospital right now.

(19:46):
If you want to see the video on this, it's
shocking video. I'm sure it'll be all over the place
in the next twenty are really upset they're not hearing
this content right? This is great content. What's wrong with
this South Standing? You're wrong, by the way on your
your statement was on the floor. The five second rule,
it does not state the floor. It does not. First
of all, three second rule. Now it's the five I've

(20:07):
gone by the five second rule as my entire life,
and it's not the three seconds. It's not a mistake.
It's a five second rule. It's not a three second
The counter is a whole different ball game. It's not.
It is. It is not differ in your head. It is.
But you're wrong. I'm gonna fight on this, Eddie. I'm
gonna give you some blowback of it, because no, you're wrong.

(20:28):
It is any food that has been exposed to contamidation.
It's not whether it's been on the floor or not.
And the floor you walk with your dirty shoes, that's
nothing compared to the top of the desk. And Edie.
You do not know whether or not TNT has good hygiene.
You're assuming that I wouldn't risk it. If I'm Ernie Johnson,

(20:49):
I'm on TV, I would not risk it. There's bacteria
that could be all over that mac and cheese. Disgusting.
When it's a high profile show, they've got people at
clean desks there. Oh stop, no, we're a high profile show.
We're the only people here. There's no one cleaning. We
come in here on Sunday Country. There's nothing with pigs
at work here. Really, Oh yeah, you know that I'm

(21:10):
not a Am I a pig? There are nothing with
pigs that work here, lots of pigs. Well, I'm not
a pig. I mean clean up after myself. Well what
have I done? That's piggy. You don't clean up? I
clean every time I leave, I clean all my papers,
all the mess I make. I walk out of here,
it's perfectly clean. The next show comes in like twelve
hours after me. But I clean up anyway. Yeah, but

(21:32):
the clean up guy comes in between the time you
were here in the next year, And why do I
bother cleaning up? I don't know I shouldn't clean up.
What you're saying, well, you don't really, but I'm not
a pig because I clean up anyway. All right, we'll
have some more mac and cheese conversation. That's unfortunate. Oh no,
we're breaking down yellow dessert or not a dessert and

(21:53):
we'll have that coming up later on my list. That'll be.
That could be an hour number five Fox Sports Radio
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to the third degree. This is one big band gets

(22:15):
grilled and it is Mallard to the third degree. This
is something that is graded. We say hello to the
Cooper loop. It's almost like the coops at the Vatican
meeting Pope Francis, unless he's not. You see that Donald
Trump hanging out with the Pope? Did not? Yes, I
saw that. By those guys at CNN. Must be so upset.
All right, what do we have, Coop? The Wizards have

(22:37):
made it clear that signing John Walton extension is their
top priority this offseason. However, John wall has said that
he wants to see the bigger picture in terms of
where the franchise is headed before signing any extension. Well,
since Wall made third team All NBA, he is now
eligible to sign a designated veteran player extension with the
Wizards that would pay him somewhere around thirty six million

(22:58):
a year for four years. One Am I eligible for that?
I've been here for a long time. Yeah, I'd like
to be eligible for that. Don't hold your breath, Ben,
Is this a situation where John Wall would be stupid
to test free agency? Yeah? Well, here's my ten cents
on John Wall. John Wall thinks he's a lot better
than me is. He's a good NBA player, He's not
a great NBA player. I would expect him to test

(23:20):
the free agent waters. This is what I would do
if I'm John Wall, and I'll tell you why. Ay,
He's are clearly not happy. I mean, we've already seen
the signs that John Wall is not angry, but he's
got some angst towards the Wizard's front office, like there's
this grand conspiracy to hold him back that they never
addressed the Wizard's bench. And Wall wants to not that

(23:43):
he wants to necessarily get out of Washington, but he
would like to be on National TV more. He was
really upset that the Wizards did not get TNT time.
I don't think they were on there at all. Maybe
one or two games, that's it the whole year. And
b if I'm advising John Wall, I'd tell him to
make Washington sweat, to make the Wizard's sweat a little bit,

(24:05):
and at least let the Wizards think that you're Gonza.
Wall's twenty six years old. He's got another at least
seven to ten years, you would say in the NBA.
He's a good basketball player. He'll be around for a while,
so he's gonna make a lot of money. But this
is a nice opportunity to use a little bit of
leverage if you're John Wall, and see what else is

(24:28):
out there. Have some other teams flirt with you, canoodle
with the Knicks, let's say, or some of these other clubs,
and then ultimately you take the pile and you stay
in Washington for the short term. Next you enjoy a
good conspiracy theory, right Ben. Of course, they're great conversation
on radio. My homeboy George Norri lives on that well.
In twenty three and they'll be screen players for Steroids

(24:49):
and the results were not supposed to be made public,
but in twenty o nine, the New York Times publics
report that gave all the names that failed the test,
including David Ortiz. Just as past weekend, Ortiz set in
the radio interview that he believes the Yankees somehow leaked
his name to the Times because there were a lot
of guys from New York getting busted, but no one
from Boston. And how crazy is this one? Did Ortis

(25:14):
put the pipe down when he got done saying that
was going on? This is a classic red herring, right,
this is this is diversion by David Ortiz. I got
a couple of thoughts on this. That's the shoot the
messenger approach. Right. First of all, I'm going to blame
the cocktail of pharmaceuticals that I took and I took

(25:39):
until the end of my career on the Yankees, rather
than myself who took them. Watching David Ortiz, even his
final year in twenty sixteen, I went back to Boston.
I saw his last Friday game against the Blue Jays
regular season game against the blue Jays, and a rainy
night in Boston. He was let's just say he was.

(26:00):
He was doing something that was not a natural performance.
It's highly unlikely that Ortiz last year was not on
the Jim Juice. Again, he did things that no player
had ever done before at that advanced age. He got
away with it for the most part, other than that
test which was not supposed to be let out in

(26:21):
twenty three. And secondly, David Ortiz has been canonized, we
know because of the big hits with the Red Sox,
but the leaked peed test is the only real blemish
on his resume. And how upsetting must it be for
someone like Manny Ramirez, who was a better player than
David Ortiz, a more talented baseball player, Manny Ramirez, And

(26:45):
yet it's Ortiz that is the toast of New England.
And my man Mani Ramirez has been banished to the
Korean League. Gotten not He's like in the JV version
of the Korean Baseball League. So whatever Big Poppy was doing,
it worked. And no, I do not believe the Yankees
a leak that. But he is apparently selling a lot

(27:08):
of books, David Ortiz. He's on a barnstorming tour, doing
a victory lab selling books. Life not bad. Next and
also this past weekend, a wrestling fan reached out to
pro wrestler Cody Rhodes hoping to get slammed on thumbtacks of.
Rhodes accepted the request with the idea in mind that
he would use it as an opportunity to raise money

(27:29):
for charity about the Children. Yes, exactly. It's got me
to thinking, Ben, if you were raising money for charity,
would you let RUSSEV perform a WWE move on you?
Would you pick like a body slam through a table,
a chair to the back, or maybe Rus's finisher the accolade. Well,
it's funny you bring up Russef. We were just talking
about Russef and he's a senior member of the We

(27:50):
call if the Mallard Militias celebrity Wing. Where the famous
people that love the show. Fred Dryer, Russef. That's it. Oh,
Rob Fukuza, the sports guy in La. He still listens occasionally,
so Fuk shout out fuk Aaron Bender, the news guy
at KFI in LA, big celebrity. Who else do we
have any or the TV guy in Kansas City he listens.

(28:10):
We got a couple of TV people in Minnesota. So yeah,
well there's a lot of celebrities that love the show,
very influential people. But to answer your question, I'm not
gonna let Russef Body slam me through a table for charity. Now,
if he wants to sign a check to me to
my bank account, then we can talk. But if I
had to pick one of those options that you mentioned,

(28:31):
I'm gonna surprise you. I'm gonna pick a chair to
the back. And the reason I'm gonna pick a chair
to the back, I've worked in radio my entire adult life.
I have been stabbed in the back so many times
over my broadcasting career that I have scar tissue that's
been built up. So I don't believe that that would
cause much pain, and I think I'd be fine with that.

(28:52):
I'd be okay with that. But no, I'm not going
to allow the Russef Finisher move on me. I would
like to do a pile driver though. I think that
would be fun to jump. I think that would be great.
All right, there it is, we're getting late. It is
Mallard of the third degree. How did we do you pass?
This edition? That's a winner? All right, We're on in

(29:15):
La now, So for the second time this hour, we'll
welcome back our La audience. And I'm very upset with
Yasmani Granddall because we should have been on at the
beginning of the show. If he would have caught Clayton
Kershaw's pitch, we would have been on at the start
of the show when we came on the air an
hour and forty something minutes ago. But the bad job
by him. But the Dodgers did win, So you are

(29:36):
welcome in. You can call us up and yap at
us and all that time. Now for the instant trivia
and go back and hear the podcast. If you missed
the beginning of the show, Hot Mac and Cheese Talk.
We broke it down scientifically. We came up with what
we think will be the most defensive touchdown dance that
could happen next NFL season. You'll find out which player

(29:56):
could be involved in that. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Show weeknights at two am Eastern
eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaking of the NFL, Odell Beckham, we need to talk
about this. He's a lot of things. He's a talented receiver,
he's a free spirit, he spends a lot of money

(30:18):
on his hair, He likes to party, and he is
also the answer to a trivia question. You might not
have seen this, maybe you were not focusing on this
kind of business news. But the people over at Nike
gave Odell Beckham Junior the biggest sponsorship deal for a

(30:39):
football player. He's got it, that's what we're being told here.
So I wanted to talk about this now. Beckham got
a five year contract that will pay him a reported
forty five million dollars from the Swoosh. Now that's not
basketball money. And now why do basketball players get paid

(31:01):
more on their shoe deals than football players? There are
two reasons for that. Number one, the basketball sneaker as
seen by the general population as being a more important
factor in a player's performance. Like you don't often debate,
well Tom Brady would have been better if he'd been

(31:23):
wearing different shoes. People don't debate that. You won't think
about football cleats when they think about a football player.
But basketball, it's become ingrained the player. What kind of
shoo does he wear? And you think this perception that
you'll jump higher if you wear a certain type of shoe,
which we know is not true. And then the other

(31:44):
reason that basketball players get more than football players is
basketball players don't wear helmets, and that matters in the
marketing game. But the contract that Beckham got, it's about
two times more than any of the previous contracts that
Nike's handed out to a football player. He's twenty four
years old. He'll be a larger brand ambassador. I know

(32:07):
you're concerned about Nike's business, including different marketing outside of football.
So you could see a line of Beckham clothes that
do not involve football gear. So that's that's all on
the table. And according to the agent, did you hear
the agent for Odell said the agent for Odell, I'll

(32:30):
tell you. He said that this deal with Nike prove
that he Odell Beckham is an icon. That's what he said.
All right. So the question, Zobi is do you buy
the fact or sell the fact that Odell Beckham, according
to his agent, who clearly has a vested interest in this,

(32:50):
is an icon. Now you're likely expecting me to counter
this and say, well, he's not an icon. I can't.
I mean, I'm not gonna do it. He's not an icon.
But I'm gonna actually buy this. I'm gonna buy the
fact that Odell Beckham is an icon. I'll tell you why.
First of all, Nike market research clearly has shown that

(33:11):
Odell Beckham Junior is worth a whole lot of money,
that this is a reasonable investment. We're talking about a
massive conglomerate. They don't just hand out big shoe contracts
anymore like they're candy on Halloween. It does not happen.
There are a lot of people involved as red tape.
There's layers to the bureaucracy at Nike, and people had

(33:33):
to sign off on this, and they all signed off
on where enough of them did, and so Beckham was
also helped by the fact that we're told there was
a bidding war going on between some of the other
shoe companies. I heard Adidas was in on this and
they were trying to steal away Beckham. So that's the
old supply and demand rules, like when you're a free agent,
you want everyone to get in on you, and the

(33:56):
old line in baseball like you never want to trash
the Yankees, Red Sox or the Dodgers. Now because they're
the money teams, they're going to spend the money, so
you have to praise them even if you don't want
to play in Boston, New York or LA because they're
gonna up the offer. They're gonna raise the anti if
you will. And the shoe companies believe there is a

(34:16):
scarcity of people that will move the needle. It's not
a scarcity of football players, but there aren't very many
of them that have a good Q score and their
Q rating is not that great most of them. So
the ones that stand out, they can move the sneakers. Now,
the second part of this and the reason I am
buying what Beckham's agent said that this proves he's an icon.

(34:41):
See I did some research for this. By the definition
of the word icon, Odell Beckham now qualifies. Now you
got to move past the first definition because the first
definition is a painting of Jesus and some kind of
holy thing. I don't believe that Beckham. I'm not going
to compare him to Jesus Christ. I'm not going do that.
But Oxford dictionaries say that icon that the second definition

(35:04):
down is a person or thing regarded as a representative
symbol of something, and that is where Beckham falls. Clearly,
Nike is a fan of him, and the people at
Madison Avenue are treating Odell like a favorite son big fans.

(35:28):
He's a darling of Madison Avenue. And so there's a
couple of lessons from this mega contract that Odell Beckham
has gotten, this shoe contract. That location, yet again, does matter,
not only in real estate, but when you're trying to
become a brand spokesman. The New York market was a

(35:51):
gigantic factor. You know that, I know that. And deep
down Odell Beckham knows that there are twenty million people
that live in the Greater New York City area, the
metropolitan area around New York and that is huge, right.
And winning is also overrated and people talk all the time, Ah,

(36:13):
you haven't won, you know, it sucks like you're not
legit till you win. Winning in the advertising game does
not factor. It's great if you do win, but they
don't need you to win to get commercials. And Beckham's
just the latest example. He's never played in the Super Bowl,

(36:33):
He's only been around a few years. The Giants have
a losing record in the regular season with Odell Beckham,
He's never been on a team that won a playoff game,
and the one playoff game that he performed in was
tarnished by the boat scandal the end of the regular season,
and so the Giants have not had a winning team.

(36:54):
They had a good year last year, but they've got
a losing record overall. And the signature moment of Odell
Beckham's career was what it was, the one that's right,
the one handed catch against the Dallas Cowboys that happened
to be on a Sunday night football game. Do you
know who won that game? The Dallas Cowboys won that game.
Style matters. Also, style is important. Odell Beckham has had

(37:18):
all kinds of botchery off the field. He's been a
favorite son of the tabloids in New York City, and
that overindulgence living, that twenty four seven lifestyle has helped.
That's helped get to this point. Beckham is seen as
according to Nike and these other companies that he does
business with, he is cool man. It's absolutely cool. And

(37:41):
part of it is the fact that he was hanging
out with Trey Songs and all the other nut jobs
on the boat. Now, the final word on this, the
final word as it currently stands, oh Del Beckham. The
endorsement deal with Nike means he's going to get paid more,
at least for the short term Nike than he is

(38:01):
from playing in the NFL. Now, there's several NBA players
that have this setup. Beckham, we believe, will be the
first NFL player where he's going to make more money
from outside playing the sport that he is being paid
to play. That's not gonna last that long. The reason
that is is Beckham's on his rookie contract and you
would assume that the Giants in the near future are

(38:23):
going to break the piggy bank and toss a bunch
of coins at Odell beck If Odell Beckham NA make
a statement here, I believe I'm accurate on this. If
Odell Beckham had been drafted by the Detroit Lions or
the Tennessee Titans, and they're the teams that had the
picks before the Giants, the two teams in front of
the Giants that could have drafted Beckham, Lions and Titans.

(38:46):
If he plays in Tennessee or Michigan, does he get
the biggest contract in the history of football from Nike.
You know the ends. So the Ben Mahler Show on,
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(39:10):
That's at Ben Mallory you can be part of the festivities.
And Edmund Dallas steamboat. Willie Garcia is here. And there's
been a rumor going around Eddie the involving the Cavaliers
that Chloe Kardashian was banned from attending Cleveland Cavalier games.

(39:33):
I know this is very important to you and into
the hearts and minds of the American people. They need
to know this, and also our friends in New Zealand.
It's very important. But there was a big headline that
said that Chloe Kardashian had been banned from Cavalier games
by Lebron James, by Lebron because you know, she's dating

(39:56):
Tristan Thompson, Eddie, so you know, and they're still dating. Yeah,
I don't see that. Well, they the Cavaliers are denied,
but it is a widely reported rumor. Well that makes
it like she legitimate. She's shown up to playoff games.
She was in Toronto, right, or she's the game's in Cleveland.

(40:17):
Maybe she didn't go to the games in Toronto, but
I've seen like photographs of her at the game. Anywhere
the Kardashians go, there's a parade of cameras following them around. Well,
what's the what's the supposed explanation that she's a distraction
of the team or something? I mean, why why would
he care who was at the game? Yeah? Well, uh,
it's it's started on a gossip website, which is it

(40:39):
hits about ten percent this particular gossip website on their report.
It's not a very good batting average. Yeah, every once
in a while they get it right, though, they pretty
much will put anything on there, like you send him
a rumor, It'll be on the front page of the website.
Can clock is right twice a day? Right? That kind
of thing? Yeah, I guess every once in a while
to get one right. But apparently this is this is
not correct, So everyone stand down. There has been no

(41:03):
Kardashian band, no Kardashian band. But Chloe Kardashian must really
like Tristan Thompson would have to spend that much time
in Cleveland, right, she must really like be into him,
because she could be hanging out in La or the
south of France. Or she's the same one who was
with lamar odom right, yeah, she's they're all jock sniffers

(41:25):
and she uh yeah, absolutely love that term. Good terms
an accurate term some people. Women. You know, women find
men all kinds of different ways. But she watches NBA
games to find her boyfriends. That's what she does. Pencil next,
exactly where's pencil neck Raven? There's a guy that's a
good question. Gives a legend. They come and they go,

(41:48):
I know, it's like a one hit wonder. He called.
He called a couple of times. We miss pencil neck Y.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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radio dot com and within the iHeart Radio app. Some
people saying that they liked last week not having the games,
and they wish we would go back to the and

(42:08):
so people enough people want us to go back to that,
we will. We'll get rid of the games again. El
Nino was the person that really triggered the ban of
the games. He intentionally tanked a game, and so he
wants us to wish him a happy birthday. We don't

(42:30):
new shout outs and the fact that you tanked the game. Illino,
I hope you. I hope if you have a terrible birthday,
I hope your birthday sucks. Okay, I'm upset with you,
el Nino. You intentionally rigged a radio game show. That
is a federal crime. Now, the other side of the
coin is that he was just a bad contestant and
you lost. No, no no, no, no, he was not because

(42:51):
you lost. No no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no he just been no no no
no no no. My evidencesged, my evidence, my evidence. He's
played many games, Elninio. He's done a very good job
in all these games. He had a long run on Jeopardy,

(43:15):
which we don't play anymore. But now it's called balderdash,
and I believe the evidence is overwhelming. The listeners know
what happened, They know that Elnino was in the tank. No,
and just's embarrassing. Lebron James had a bad game the
other day, it happens Elino had a bad day. Shocking
that a cheater like Eddie would have Elnino's back. Were
you in on this? Did you pay El Nino Eddie. No,

(43:37):
I sure did not. There was nothing to be in
on Willie Willie. All right. Anyway, moving on from that now,
I assume that you have some kind of employment. You
listening right, and your job is better than my job
at least. I remember that study we talked about it.
I think we brought it up on the show a
couple of weeks ago, that the two worst careers to

(43:59):
have in twenty seventeen, according to a study by Career Cast.
I don't even don't know what that is, but the
study said the two worst jobs to have our newspaper reporter,
which I'm not, and broadcaster, which apparently I am. And
so I have one of the worst jobs in twenty seventeen.
Your job is better than my job. But if you

(44:21):
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(46:10):
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(46:31):
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Game of the Stars. Here's Ben Maller, and away we

(46:53):
go on password the word Game of the Stars. Welcome in,
our contestants, see we have lined up here to play password.
I was hoping no one would call. Unfortunately my hopes
were not My hopes and dreams were not realized. That's
so welcome in. Who do we have? We have Kathy

(47:15):
in Portland? Hello, Kathy? Well, hello, you and I've always
been partners. You didn't want me to call? Well, I
didn't want anyone to, but I know that really hurt
my feelings. I thought you were the Slash siblings. You
want to hang up? You want to no, I really
thought you wanted to be my partner. Yeah, okay, well

(47:35):
you're offering. Yeah, all right. What time do you start work, Kathy?
I have to day off? Oh you do a good Yeah,
I've got an optomology appointment. Oh I have the day off?
All right? So whatever? That is an okay, cool? You
are motivated, Kathy. That is dedication. I need a golden ticket. Okay,

(47:56):
well yo, if you win, you'll get one. And who
else do we have playing? We've got Pete in northern California. Hello, Pete,
Welcome in Pete. And what do you do for a living? Pete?
I work for the big brown companies that delivered your packages.
What can Brown do for you? That's not their slogan anymore? Though?
Is that still their slogan? Um? You don't know. I

(48:19):
have no clue, you have no idea, you don't care
about that. Yeah. Ups is a great country, great company.
I have a friend of mine who works there. Great benefits,
right befits? Yeah, absolutely, that's my fallback after a costco
won't hire me, I'll move over to what can Brown?
They probably won't hire me either. All right, A hold
on a sec. Pete, we have Pete. Kathy, you can

(48:41):
partner up with any one of us. Kathy, who would
you like to partner up with on the show? Hello, Kathy, Hello,
I'm sorry. There was a little quick Yeah, okay, this
is the partner. Okay, she picked me? Uh and Pete?
Who would you like to partner up with? Pete? Make
it a classic Eddie? Anything involving Eddie's not a classic?

(49:03):
Are you there? No? I stepped outside the room cut off.
You didn't get cut off. You're still there. You guys
are sabotaging the phone. You're fingers. I have five I have?
Did you you hurt her? She can't hear Can you
hear me? Kathy? I didn't cut you off? Can you

(49:25):
hear me? She can't hear me. She can hear you,
she cannot hear me. All right, it's Kathy and Ben.
All right, bad actor versus p Eddie. We're gonna have
a Oh she can't hear me. Why can't she not hear?
What are you doing in there? I've not touched anything.
We're not anywhere near the phones. You control the phones
during the games. She turned the radio up. She hung up.

(49:47):
Oh my god, you and you thought that was me?
Yeah again, you sabotage. We have done that. I don't know.
I don't know what you get, you idiots did, but
she's probably calling back. Answer the phone there boy, all right?
She but oh that's great. See this we had a
week last None of this has happened last week. None
of has happened last week. Try to be a grown up.

(50:09):
You stop the damn games, and then we bring the
games back, and then we got this nonsense. It's a crime,
is what it helped you. And yesterday's all right? Apparently
she's back. Are you there, Kathy? I love Kathy. I
think something's messed up, Danny. She can't hear clearly. All right,
let me try. Let me try something else here, hold

(50:30):
on a se Kathy? Are you there? Kathy? All right?
So sorry, I don't know what happened. All right now, Pete,
can you hear me? Pete? Okay, it's very odd. I
don't understand why it is. I just flipped them and
then it worked. All right, very good, let's get started out.
I'm gonna have Louise picked the work. Yeah, there you go.
You need somebody to pick one through ten. All right, Louise,

(50:52):
Now who's going first? That Kathy and Benner, so the
good team will go first, all right, to very good, Louise,
you want to pick a number between one and ten.
That would be number five, then number five? All right,
very good, let's do this. You ready to go? Kathy?
Absolutely all right? Uh, let's go. What did you say?

(51:17):
Rip city? All right? Uh? All right, let's go with
uh rivalry? Who Kathy? We're overnight radio preapre Kathy. We

(51:37):
don't even know we don't even know what that word is.
We're not highly educated here, all right, No, that's terrible.
Now now Pete, God, Pete, are you familiar with the
Mallard maneuver? You are? Okay, here we go, and he's
already stealing my tricks. Here we go, ready, family dude, Yes,

(52:11):
all right? And now what's what's the score? Coup? That
would be nine nothing And that was an excellent thank
yous of the Mallard. You guys haven't learned anything. All right,
let's s keep you. Pete and Eddie's first word and

(52:31):
Louise is gonna pick correct Yeah, go ahead, pick word
number two, number two, all right, Pete, the password is
percussion from yes. I was easy on. All right, let's

(52:54):
keep you keep keep going. N nothing, he's going short time,
keep going. Wath, snap out of Kathy. Kathy, couldn't be
Ben's fault. Come on, Louise picking on the number number eight,

(53:15):
number eight. All right, Oh, here we go, Kathy. Remember
we're doing overnight radio. We are not we are not
going to talk. This is yeah, exactly, yeah, all right,
demolish no, oh my god, Kathy. All right Pete, Oh

(53:40):
my Ben said demolish my pastor my password to you
would be oh my god, explode. Yes, out man, this
is fun. I'm show so glad the games are back. Yeah,

(54:01):
I'm in trouble. Ben's not gonna let me be his
partner ever again. Kathy, I'm made a poor decision. Did
Coo put you up to this? Here we go, Kathy?
Are you serious? Kathy? S just between us? I don't know, lady,
how dare you never do that? I am so embarrassed.

(54:21):
I'm so sorry. It's not your fault. The end the
game right now. But it was a fair game. There
was not as far as well. Danny wasn't cheating at least,
so thank you for that engratulations Pete. You want a
golden ticket my friend, well, thank you, Louise then and

(54:44):
running out of excuses, and our friend Kathy, we're gonna
give you the golden boot, whereas I don't hear the
golden boue wears. Let me see here there it is
the golden boat for Kathy in Portland, and great shame there.
And she he tried to tried a twenty dollars word.
I still don't know what she said. That is, Oh

(55:06):
my god, all right
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