January 2, 2020 • 43 mins
Chris Plank discusses the passing of former NBA commissioner David Stern, the Dallas Cowboys head coaching job, Buy or Sell, and more!
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you know what date is? Is a Wednesday? Is it Thursday?
Who cares? We have a Rose Bowl to recap. We
have I think one of the more interesting NFL conspiracy
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theories involving why Jason Garrett is still the head coach
of the Cowboys to hash through and anytime you're talking
NFL and it's the playoffs, it's about what a twenty
year tradition that we're trying to bury the Patriots. So
we'll dive into it all on yet another edition of
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eighty six Big Ben Eddie Garcia on updates. You just
heard him tonight. We'll get Eddie in here coming up
in just a bit. Rader Roberberto on the wheels of Steel, Cooper,
Loop Coop and his big head was all over my
Twitter feed this week. Coop, the Mallar Militia loves you
in Seattle, big head man. That's that's big time, so
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the cruise here. I'm fired up. The best way to
get in touch with the show is always is to
pick up the phone and call, though I don't think
I've used my phone to make a call in a year,
but she should at eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
Twitter is not only the best way to venture frustrations
just basically get as angry as you want, but it's also,
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to me the best way to get in touch with
the show. I'm at Plank Show, at Eddie on Fox,
at Raider Underscore, Rob and I always forget it, Coop.
What is It's something about the Broncos on there or
something as far as your Twitter? Yeahhaha, you forgot, by
the way. Congrats on the win. Congrats on moving us
up five draft spots and earning the title of the
Denver Broncos being a team to talk about during the offseason.
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I'm still bitter about that. At you h Bronco fan
for a coop as well, all right, and as always,
as always, we're all about your interaction throughout the night.
As I mentioned tons of NFL to get to tons
of Bowl reaction. Though, I found it interesting last night
in trying to get into the poll games, it was
an adjunct failure. I mean, there's a lot of things
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that when you look back on, you're like, maybe that
segment worked, maybe that didn't. I came to the realization
that we have a level of couldn't care less at
about nine and a half out of ten when it
comes to bowl games in college football at this point.
And I and I'm not just saying people that are
up at this ridiculous hour of night in the Central
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and Eastern time zone. It just seems to be that
way in general. So I think I hope that maybe
what we had tonight in the Rose Bowl Sugar Bowl
was okay, even though it may have been the longest
college football game ever. And we always get into a
good old fashioned Big ten v SEC kind of comparison
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when you have two of the blue bloods go at it.
But today, for me, as we kick things off on
another edition of The Ben Mallor Show, today wasn't even
about college football and its bowl games. And I'm a
diehard college football fan. I mean, it's my job, it's
what I live, it's what I do. Today was more
about celebrating what was, without a doubt, one of the
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greatest tenures in sports, and that is David Stern as
the commissioner of the NBA, as he passed away after
what a brain hemorrhage about a week and a half ago.
Now I understand, I get it that when someone passes away,
we usually get caught up in the greatness of the
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person and usually and typically we can make someone out
to be just a little bit more than they were.
I mean, we've all seen it, We've all experienced it.
In life. We remember only the good. We typically push
aside the bad. It's natural, it's what we do. It's life,
right and death in this case, But today, to me
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has been pretty amazing. And in celebrating the life of
David Stern, we either I guess I should say the
Royal we those who covered him closely, those who were
on the NBA beat or a team beat. It's almost
as if today was about accepting the shortcomings, the temper,
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this stand office offish nature that came with one David Stern,
all the things that we usually don't talk about when
someone has passed. It was almost like we were celebrating
today with David Stern. And I feel very confident when
I say that, and this comes from someone who, as
a Lakers fan, was very bitter about the whole Chris
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Paul Saga, without a doubt, he was one of the
greatest commissioners in the history of professional sports, not just
the NBA, not just the NBA where maybe you know
Larry O'Brien was a commissioner and Adam Silver as the commissioner.
Now you know in the NFL, we could probably go
about four deep in some of the commissioners that we know.
Major League Baseball obviously had a little bit longer, less
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depth chart wise of commissioners we may know, most of
us only had David Stern as the commissioner of the
NBA in most of our lifetime, So I understand that
it's kind of a small sample size, but to me,
I think with what he did, he was without a
doubt the greatest commissioner in the history of sports, and
I don't just relegate that to the NBA. He wanted
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to ban the global reach of the NBA. He wanted
the league to grow, and it did. I listen, we can.
We can sit here and debate tonight if you want
what's wrong with I don't think we need to get
knee deep in Oh my gosh, the NBA's and so
much trouble, and the TV ratings are down and nobody's watching.
It's it's a West Coast league now, after we grinched
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and moaned that it was too much of an East
Coast league for a long time, don't I don't think
that's the nature of what we do here tonight, based
on the history and the legacy that David Stern his lap,
he wanted to grow the sport and he did internationally
was a big deal to him. You know, we there
was a great Sports Illustrated cover. I guess you could say,
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maybe early in his tenure as the commissioner, that had
NBA teams all over the globe, I mean from Tel
Aviv to different places across England. I mean, it was
really his goal. It's kind of funny now to see
what the NFL is doing, But it was really his
goal to try to have a team overseas. Now, while
the game grew and became more global than ever and
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you had guys like the Tony Kup coaches of the
world and the Dirk Nowitzki that brought a foreign brand
of basketball to the NBA, we never quite reached the Oh,
I don't know as if a fair way to say
it is a true NBA team overseas. I mean, the
rackets kind of became China's team because of Yaoming kind
of look at Dirk Nowitsky in Germany, but you never
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truly ended up with a team overseas like he wanted.
But to that he grew the brand globally. I think
one of my favorite David Stern issues was the dress code.
When Tim Duncan would be showing up in what sweats
in a hoodie. What we didn't realize is that was
truly how Tim Duncan dressed, and in trying to implement
a dress code that at the time many people looked
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at and tried to find some underlying theme beyond just
that he wanted guys to look the part. I mean,
I can. I'm old enough to remember conversations on this
network about, oh, what's the undertone of trying to tell
people how to dress? How dare you David Stern? And
it's kind of catapulted the league to where pregame has
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become almost a fashion show. He was a guy to
me that didn't have a problem being the bad guy
and from someone I'm not good at that, you know,
I struggle with that. I had to block my first
person on Twitter because I'm not a I can't handle
criticism into a certain degree. I don't like being the
bad guy. I like being positive. I like being glass
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half full kind of person. David Stern couldn't care less
about this, and I appreciated that he wasn't afraid to
be the least popular person. He definitely didn't shy away
from the standoffish nature of some of his owners and
would go head to head and didn't didn't really seek
out popularity. He embraced conflict. I suck at conflict. I
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asked my wife, she wins every argument. Ask him like
Sunday Night host Arnie Spaniard, instead of fighting with him,
I have a brain. My head explodes and I'm just
like I'm the mic, I'm gonna cuss out loud, and
now we'll have this conversation. He was all about it.
I mean, I'm still bitter about vetoing the trade of
Chris Paul, but he would accept the repercussions from anybody
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who was going to complain. And if you look back
at what many have pointed out tonight as maybe his
shining moment, nineteen ninety one, Magic Johnson diagnosed with HIV.
I mean, as as a sixteen year old kid watching that,
I was pretty sure Magic Johnson was going to die
and that anyone that shook his hand was probably going
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to get HIV. That's just how clueless we were. David
Stern stood up and said, no, that's we're going to
embrace Magic, and they did, and it kind of changed
in a lot of our eyes the way in which
that disease was perceived and the way in which the
NBA would become more player centric. And I just as
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as a rap on this, I mean, I wish I
could have been a fly on the wall for some
of those conversations that he had with Mark Cuban, because
those had to be fascinating. But I think I think
in life we all kind of look at different ways
to determine success. We either want to grow our brand,
we want to make more money. We want to be
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better husbands or wives or our partners, and whatever it
might be. We want to find, for some of even
more strength in our faith. We want to read more,
we want to exercise more, whatever it might be, maybe
put the phone down more. As we're kind of in
this era of or at least this time right now
of New Year's resolutions, but as we sit here today
and we celebrate the life and the legacy of David Stern,
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it appears to me as if he's one of the
few people who kind of accomplished just about every professional
goal imaginable that he had for the NBA. I mean,
I don't have to sit here and tell you about
the tape delay era. I mean in the early eighties,
the NBA Finals were on after your late local news,
and I was like, coming up next Johnny Carson, and
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after Johnny Carson Game four of the NBA, and again
it was it wasn't on NBC, but it was on
CBS at that time, and his tape delayed, So it
was a disaster from a TV rights perspective and he
changed that. Oh and then one other thing too, which
is kind of wild looking back now, the NBA had
a big drug problem in the early eighties. And I'm
not just talking weed the I don't know what the
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best way to describe the cocaine on the areas, nose, candy,
whatever way you want to look at it. It was
an issue in the NBA, and he became one of
the first commissioners to come up with a league wide
drug testing policy and then implementing a plan to kind
of stand up against it. So David Stern, who had
been the commissioner for gosh, the better part of what
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thirty years in the NBA from eighty four to two
and fourteen, passing away today in one of my in
my opinion, one of the greatest commissioners in all of sports.
And as the night rolls on, we'll sprinkle in some
of the reaction from the players throughout the league, former players, administrators, writers.
As you might imagine, tributes have been pouring in throughout
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the evening. But he was something pretty special and he
grew the NBA to what it is today. All Right,
With that all in mind, let's welcome in the crew.
He is back after taking one night off hashtag no
days off for Eddie Garcia, the Man, the Myth, the
Legend is back. Missed you last night, Eddie. How is
your New Year's Eve celebration? A subdued but enjoyable, just
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family get together. It was not any any kind of
outrageous get drunk and collapse somewhere. It was. Yeah, it
was very low key, very low key. Yeah, it was
kind of low key on the show. You know, I
have a I guess I have a plan whenever it
comes to this program. It's it's either the two energy
drinks I have behind door number one, or it's the
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six pack of PAP's Blue Ribbon that I have behind
door number two. We didn't have to break out the
PBR last night, but but you were missed and it
was somewhat subdued the show as well too. So I
did you get to take in hockey today or no?
Absolutely no. You know I'm a huge hockey fan, so
I mean there were there were I was sad to
miss Minnesota Auburn because that looked like it was a
pretty good game. But I checked out the winner classic
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thought it was an awesome event that down there in
Dallas at the Cotton Bowl. When I first heard it
was at the Cotton Ball, it's kind of like, I
don't know about that, but it turned out to be
be awesome. As somebody who has spent many a saturdays
in the Cotton Bowl, yeah, I was. I was surprised
by how smooth it seemed everything went. I mean, there's
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you realize there's two games that are played at the
Cotton Bowl the entire there's two football games there's and
it's not the Cotton Bowl anymore. No, the Cotton Bowl
is played at at and T Stadium, right where the
Coboys played. It's OEU Texas and it's I can't think
it's um like Texas Southern and somebody plays and that's it.
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So you have basically two events in an arena all
Er Stadium, I should say, all year long. And then
they added hockey and I don't know, Eddie, I guess
it looked like it went off without a hitch today,
didn't it. Well. I know they had some weather issues
a couple of days before, a lot of rain and
they had to like completely redo the ice a couple
of days before, which isn't something you just do you know,
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in like a day. It takes a couple of days.
But evidently they were able to get it. They worked
you know, through the through the night, and we're able
to get it to work out. And the conditions, you know,
those outdoor games, they're never great, but it's you know,
the same for both sides. It's kind of like, I
guess playing a football game and some inclement weather. You
do get the puck bouncing around a little bit here
and there. But but it looked like you went off
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pretty well, smooth baby. Well, we'll have to talk a
little bit more about the Lord's game hockey coming up
a little bit later on in the program Reddy Rob
Roberto running the show Coop on the phone to d
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Robert to any
crazy stories from New Year's Eve or were you subdued
as well? Didn't end up slumped over anywhere on on
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Tuesday night, Nah chilled at the house with the wife, daughter,
my brother, sister in law, and the godson. So look
at you, Coop. Someone had to get wild on this
show last night. Coop, did you no, yes? No? Maybe?
You know, well that's not the best answer, to be fair,
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Coop's choice to party with leads to being subdued. If
you will right exactly, I'm not. I'm not really Uh,
you know, I don't drink, so yeah, I don't get
too wild. Did you see the lines in Illinois? By
the way, today Illinois became Illinois became, I think what,
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the fourth state to legalize weed recreationally. We have medicinal
weed here in Oklahoma. Boys. You have to get a
I don't think the word is a permit. A doctor
has to kind of give you what's what's basically called
a mari on a card and you can go to
a This shows you how stringent the process is, Eddie.
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You have to go to a website and type in
a few things to get your weed card. But in
in Illinois today, boom, it became legal and the lines
were substantial. So kudos kudos Illinois today. A good laid
back New Year's Eve. We didn't do a damn thing
on this show last night, and I stand up against
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the claims already being made by Terry on Twitter at
Plank Show, at Planks on Twitter, at Eddie on Fox.
You can hit up the whole crew. We did not
do list Radio last night. Terry, stop it. That's not
my mo, That's not what this is about. How dare
I actually mentioned some of the top stories from the decade?
I think we mentioned two. I don't know if two's
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really a list, is it. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. I am all in now and have been
for the better part of the last week on the
Dallas Cowboys job. And I don't know why I don't
like the Cowboys. I'm not a fan. I had to
fight with people last night about the NFL being better
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when Dallas is good. And I'm not saying it to hate. Well,
I guess I am Hayden. I just I'm not a fan,
never have been. But yet I'm in this position to
where you kind of look at it and you realize, damn,
this is dominating the headlines beyond anything else. It's we
have the playoffs starting right now, but yet what are
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people talking about? Boy, what's Jerry Jones doing? What's going on?
Why the delay? Why haven't we seen any movement? Now?
I know that that's probably falling on somewhat deaf ears
in Minnesota and in Nashville and in places where your
team is actually playing this weekend, but across the board,
it's the biggest story in the NFL right now. So
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I did a little dig in because Eddie got in
my mind thinking during the last segment of potential replacements
beyond just chasing a Josh McDaniels and I'll have a
couple of notes on college targets as well later on
here on The Ben Maller Show. But Mike Zimmer did
get extended beyond twenty nineteen this offseason and ended up
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getting a one year extension on his deal, and maybe
just maybe being mentioned this cowboy conversation could get that
deal extended longer, or maybe Rick Spielman in Minnesota. Move on.
There was an article on I think it was sometimes
I'm hesitant to give credit to like the yard Barkers
or the fansided sites because they're just basically aggregation. You
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say one thing and that ends up being a headline.
It's a most ridiculous thing ever. But still this was
well done, and there had been some noise that Zimmer's
job is on the line if they don't make a
deep run in the playoffs, which to me, based on
where Minnesota is now or they've been over the last
twenty years, I think it's kind of crazy. I think
Zimmer has done a heck of a job and it
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might be a situation in Dallas where he's had many
opportunities to potentially be the choice of Jerry Joins Jones
and the Cowboys for years. I mean, the dude was
there in ninety four, he was there through two thousand
and what seven. I mean, you're there thirteen years and
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you don't get an opportunity to become the head coach.
You're constantly kind of viewed as a defensive minded guy
and you not really given the rein. So I could
understand two where maybe maybefore a Zimmer that you look
at it and say, yeah, you know, appreciate the opportunity,
but I'm not going to talk to you. I'm not
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gonna do it. And I guess if you go with
the motivational mindset. And I heard Jonas talking about this
on was that Monday Night, Minnesota was left out of
the playoff promo. Oh maybe maybe they've got a little
bit more juice on that front. But as Ian Rappaport
reported earlier this week. Among the likely targets include not
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only three college coaches, but the potential to trade for
someone like Mike Zimmer, who, by the way, boys, if
I call him Don Zimmer for some reason, whenever her
Eddie reported on Don Larson, I started talking about Don
Zimmer during the break, So we're off to a roar
and start with my mind here to I said no
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when I'm meant to say yes. And I was having
a long term conversation about how I thought Don Zimmer
to actually passed away years ago when spoiler alert he had,
and Eddie was talking about Don Larson. So just to
kind of defend myself and call myself out so you
don't have to. If in talking about Mike Zimmer, I
call him Don Zimmer, just bust me out on it.
We've seen coaches get traded for before. I mean, obviously,
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the Raiders picked up a bunch of draft picks for
John Gruden back in two thousand and two, and I
didn't realize the Buccaneer has had to send a sixth
round pick to Arizona for Bruce Arians last off season.
But if you truly think about it, you're looking at
a guy that has had I don't want to say
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unparalleled success, because Minnesota has been a team that's gone
to Super Bowls before. I don't want to get too
carried away here, but as far as regular season success,
it's pretty impressive what you've seen so far. Out of
the run that Mike Zimmer has had as the Minnesota
Vikings head coach. Eric checks in on Twitter Zimmer is
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going nowhere. The Cowboys have a better chance of getting
Woody Hayes to coach leave my Vikings alone. Brow. That
would be something, would it not? If Woody Hayes may
he rest in peace, suddenly shows up as the next
head coach to the Dallas Cowboys. Eddie writes Brady and
McDaniels plus a lego head of Steve Harvey will end
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up in Dallas for Jerry Jones and adds the Jason
and Garrett conspiracy theory you outlined is true. Edward Snowden said,
so political humor. I like it, and yeah, you know,
it's kind of interesting. I was thinking about it at
Shady Shawn for twenty. Don't know what that four twenty means. Shaw,
I don't have to google it up, but he had
actually brought up this theory over the weekend. And again,
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I'm not saying that I'm all in on the idea
that Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are waiting for the
opportunity to talk to Josh McDaniels and their target and
their eyes on maybe making a push for Tom Brady.
But I think it's interesting, and I don't know would
that be considered a combo deal, Eddie. I think you
hit it on the head too before we get to
the phones at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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eight seven seven nine nine six three six nine. And
I love Tom Brady. I mean, what he's done is incredible.
But Edie, if you're going out and you're trying to
find yourself a guy to win me some football games,
Tom Brady sounds all well and good, But are we
not talking about a guy that's on the downward role
of his his NFL career right now? Is that really
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direction you go if you're trying to generate a spark
for your franchise. I don't think so. No, I agree.
I mean, maybe Brady will bounce back next year, or
maybe he goes someplace else and proves us all wrong.
But I mean, we've all been saying it as as
amazing as he's been over his career. At some point, right,
age catches up with you, and usually it hits you hard,
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and it seems like that's happened this year. Age is undefeated, y'all.
I know it sounds crazy because we see all the videos,
we see the workouts, we see he's in great shape.
Dude looks like he's in his early thirties. But at
some point, I mean, you are He says this a
lot on Sunday nights. Eventually the building stops. At some point,
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the skyscraper reaches a level where it can't grow anymore.
And maybe that's what we're dealing with with Brady. I'm
getting call in on this or two eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fix eight seven seven nine nine six
six three six nine. Let's let's Christine in here. Who's
in Minnesota? A little perspective on Jason Jason Garrett, what's
going on? Christine? Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. Yither, thanks,
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I listened every night. By the way, Um and the
thing about Um Zimmer, there's been a lot of talk
locally about him going to Dallas and the reason why
Jerry's drawing this out as he's trying to figure out
a way to keep Um Jason in house as maybe
like a player representative of some kind of scout or
something like that, and then bringing in Zimmer after the
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Vikings lose this weekend, which I hate to say it,
but I really didn't really think we're going to um
and that UM the Ziggy and whatever are going to
clean house here and start over, So that that seems
pretty reasonable to me. UM. I would not bring in
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Kevin Stefanski if I was anyone. He's only had one
year of offensive coaching and he didn't really start doing
good until we brought in Gary Kubiak. And I know
Kubiak doesn't want to coaching position because of his health,
but he'd be a damn good offensive coordinator. Again, he's
done really good. You know, we're our playoff chances are
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crap right now. But with Dallas, you know, I really
think that Jerry's trying to figure out a way to
keep keep what he wants and bring in a Zimmer
or someone like that. It's it's a fair point, Christina,
and I appreciate the phone call, and I saw this
laid out as well. In Pro Football Talk, and I
was going to jump on it here, but what if,
And again, I think we're unfortunately dealing in hypotheticals here,
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because you know, by the time that those of you
that listen to the podcast, by the time that you
finally download this on say a Thursday, this thing could
be over. I mean, Jerry Jones could have had his
third meeting with Jason Garrett made the decision that he's
moving on, and it's all well and good. But in
this moment, at one but twelve ten am Ppecific time,
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for some reason, despite three meetings a third meeting coming up,
Jason Garrett still the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
And to Christine's point, there is the possibility that the
Cowboys could be either negotiating a new contract for someone
to coach the team, or maybe maybe they're trying to
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find a way to keep Jason Garrett around, but just
not as the head coach. Here's the theory from Mike
Florio and Pro Football Talk. What if? What if the
Cowboys are considering hiring someone like, as Christine mentioned, Gary
Kubiak to be the head coach, but with very narrow
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and specific duties given the health issues that caused Kubiak
to stop being the head coach of the Broncos three
years ago. Kubiak has rejuvenated Minnesota's offense this year. Maybe
he could do the same in Dallas with Garrett occupying
a new kind of job with a new kind of
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title like simply coach. By the way, again, not hating here,
but coach is not a new title. I don't I
don't know where that came from, but that is absolutely
not a new title. You know, We've come up with
this very inventive and creative thing that we're going to
call you, Jason Garrett. Are you ready? Coach? Huh? You
like it? They did back it up though, to basically
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Kubiak's head coach or assistant head coach or assistant to
the head coach or co head coach. It continues here quickly.
Maybe the Cowboys will be the second NFL team to
essentially have two head coaches. Now, you have to go
back to World War two times, and I guess Eddie,
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at some point your Steelers had a blended team with
the Eagles. Go figure with Kubiak installed as maybe a
half step above Garrett, and with Garrett doing most of
the heavy lifting that would otherwise be done by Kubiak.
You know, I would almost I would almost buy Arnie
Spanier and his quote unquote sources with the possibility of
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looking at a front office role before. I think anybody
would take less of a responsibility to have someone come
in and take over their job that they've had for
a decade essentially, and then boom, you're no longer the
guy in charge. I don't understand how that would work.
Wouldn't you have guys undercutting each other all the time?
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I mean, it would take a pretty solid relationship for
something like that to work. I guess the bottom line
here more than anything else it is it's a question
that kind of permeates beyond just what we could debate here,
and it goes into kind of the compensation, the opportunity
to win. I mean, facilities aren't really a big conversation
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in the world of the National Football League, but it
does factor in when you have a stadium at and
T Stadium. Is the Cowboys head coaching job a good
job if you're an NFL head coach, or maybe we
need to kind of pigeonhole that down a little bit.
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If you're a college football coach and you're looking for
that next step and Jerry Jones wants you. Is that
the kind of gig that you would feel comfortable sliding
into knowing that you're constantly going to have the overlord
that will make every decision for you and Jerry Jones.
If you're comfortable on that, go go do it. If not,
it's gonna be pretty hard to find a gig in
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the NFL where you're not going to have power that's
just all yours. Not many people get a John Gruden
Bill Belichick set up, and maybe more specifically a John
Gruden set up right out of the gate. It's like, oh, welcome,
Oh you're a former you're a college coach right now, listen,
you're gonna be the GM. Go for go find your
personnel guy. That just doesn't happen. I mean, the owners
want there there, say so, I want to get your
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takes on that. So we'll pull the crew when we
come back on the Ben Mallers Show. But think about it,
is the Dallas Cowboys head coaching job still the best
job in the NFL. Is it a big time gig? Absolutely?
But is it a good job? I mean, is it
is it a place that should be able to have
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its pick of the litter. I'll say one thing in
defense of it, and I can't believe I'm having to
defend the Dallas Cowboys. But they've shown a commitment to
a coach. Jerry Jones has shown that he's not necessarily
going to knee jerk at the first sign of problems.
He's going to give a guy a chance. He gave
Jason Garrett nine years. They gave Bill Parcels obviously as
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much time as he wanted until Parcells lost his mind
because he was tired of the meddling. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at
two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Got your best tweets
of the night coming up. Also, a cowboy from Windsor
is hanging there. We'll get to him. Wait what am
I saying? He's hanging in there. We'll get to him
next here on Fox Sports Radio. In the meantime. In
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the meantime, I wanted to play a quick little segment
a buy or sell with the crew. This is where
I lay out either a scenario or I guess, maybe
more than anything else, ask a question, lay out a statement. Maybe,
and we'll see if the crew is buying or selling this.
As has kind of typified my takes tonight, we start
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with Eddie Garcia. So Eddie, here's our first buyer sell.
We'll go right, I got three of them. Will be quick.
I know we're up against it, but I want everyone's
take on this, all right, buy or sell, Eddie? And
I know we've discussed this quite a bit. But the
Saints or the team this week and that could end
up making a run to the super Bowl. I would
buy that, Yes, Roberto, buyer sell Saints or the team
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this week playing this week and that could make a
run of the super Bowl. Yes, definitely. They are one
of my pre predictions to manticipate. Bolgan the Saint. Nice Cooper,
you on board this as well? Or yeah, I am
by all across the board on a bye. The only
thing that could happen is maybe something weird. So with
that in mind, buy or sell, Eddie. There's too many
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bowls and something needs to be done about the college game.
It's at the toothpastes out of the tube. So I
just want to be clear. Nothing is going to be done,
but buy or sell. College football has to fix its
multiple uninteresting bowl games. I am totally buying that there
are way too many bowl games. I don't even care
about half of them. And I mean, call me old fashioned,
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but I think a bowl game should be a reward
for a not just a good season, but a very
good season and you know, going six and six or
you know, being barely above five hundred. I mean, who
cares why? I mean, I know they're just made for
TV events, and I guess some people watch them. I don't.
I love college football and I have zero interest in
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the great majority of these games. Now, there were some
great games today we're not talking about, you know, the
Rose Bowl and those types, even though they're not you know,
there's the rotation and sometimes they're not a part of
the playoffs. But no, they need to get rid of
a lot of these ball games. So are you trying
to tell me you're not fired up about the Ticketmaster
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Birmingham Bowl today between a six and six Boston College
team in Cincinnati, or the tax Lay or Gator Bowl
between India and Tennessee's now what you're trying to tell me, Eddie,
Because that's the vibe I'm getting, and I think I
agree That's what I'm trying to tell repair. Toe buyers
sell that too many bowl games. I'm buying that. And
now with not that there's a that, not that they
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have the college Football Playoff, that's only those are the
only games I watched. I don't even watch any of
the bowl games, even even the Rules Bowl. Man. I
just to love the Rose Bowl now too much. I
was getting yelled at for not talking enough about the
Rose Bowl on Twitter, and then I realized, well, what
can you say, Oregon one? Congrats? Yeah, I mean it's
a hell of a game. Hell of a game. Uh, Coope,
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what about you? And I gotta be honest with you.
I'm kind of in on bowl games. But I also
realized at one point I'm not gonna sit down and
make time for a six and sixteen playing Cincinnati tomorrow
as far as bowl season is concerned. How about you, Coop, Chris,
you can never have too many bowls? And I agree upon.
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I don't. I don't even I don't. I don't watch
college football at all anymore these days, So all right,
fair enough? You know what if if if you have
a gambling interest, it makes sense. I guess there's some
easy money to be made here. But still, I just
I love college football and I've usually had to take
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of listen. If you don't like the bulls, don't watch them.
But then I realize we're rewarding teams with mediocre season
and yet mediocre seasons. And yes, I'm all about the
kids and making it a great experience for everyone in involved,
but come on, and then, guys, since I won't have
a chance to hang out with you, sticking with college
football next week as Big Ben returns, Eddie buy Or Sell,
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Trevor Lawrence is going to do it again and upset
LSU in the National Championship Game. I'm selling that. Um.
I like Trevor Lawrence a lot. I thought his performance
against Ohio State was phenomenal. And I really love the
Clemson program. If I was a five star recruit and
I could pick any program to go to, I would
go to Clemson. But that haven't been said. Joe Burrow
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is out of this world, and LSU I think just
has a little bit better athlete. So and it's in
the game, by the way, is in New Orleans it
is Yeah, So um, sorry Clemson and Trevor Lawrence, It's
not gonna happen, Roberto, you're buying that, are selling it
on Clemson for the championship game. I'm selling that, lsu
Joel Burrow, so damn good Coop. How about you football?
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Go ahead, just guess with oh buy the Colors selling.
I will say this, I've been blessed in my other job,
if you will, to see some of the best of
college football up close for the better part of the
last twenty years. And I have never seen a better
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individual performance than Joe Burrow last week. And I'm telling
you what it's It looks like it's going to continue
this week. I think you're getting You're gonna get a
good game. Question why why didn't he make it an
Ohio State? Was that just bad decision to not goal
of Joe Burrow the offense? I think it's a great question.
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And since we're running so long here, let me table
an answer to that until after Eddie Garcia is update.
I'm trying to work on my clock management, Coup. I'm
trying to work on my clock management and it's been
horrific today, Robert though, so i'd send improvement over the normal,
but let me answer it after Eddie Garcia gets us
caught up on everything going on in the world of
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sports and coming up today. What's going on, Eddie. Well,
unfortunately we had two legendary sports figures passing away on
New Year's Day, former NBA commissioner Davis Stern dying at
the age of seventy seven following a brain hemorrhage three
weeks ago. Arguably the greatest commissioner in all of sports,
he guided the NBA to unprecedented heights from nineteen eighty
four to twenty fourteen. And former Major League pitcher Don
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Larson died at the age of ninety. He's the only
man in history of baseball to throw a perfect game
in the World Series. He did that for the Yankees
in nineteen fifty six against the Brooklyn Dodgers. College football,
he had four New Year's Day Bowl games. In the
Rose Bowl, Oregon gets by Wisconsin twenty eight twenty seven,
Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert, known more for his arm than
his legs, ran for three scores, including the game winner.
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In the fourth quarter. Sugar Bowl. Georgia had a nineteen
nothing lead at the half over Baylor and then went
on for a twenty six fourteen victory. Quarterback Jake From
a couple of TD passes for the Bulldogs. In the
Citrus Bowl, it was Alabama over Michigan thirty five sixteen
Mac Jones three touchdown passes for alb Amma for Michigan.
They now lost sixteen straight games away from home against
top fifteen teams, and in the Outback Bowl, Minnesota gets
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Chris if you're keeping scorer. The Dallas Cowboys have now
had with the three meetings with Jason Garrett meeting today
and we still don't know what they're going to do,
so we'll we'll maybe we'll find out later today, maybe not,
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but they've got to have more meetings to figure out
what they want to do. It's America's team. It's the
most American thing ever is to have an s ton
of meetings. They just waste everyone's time. I mean, welcome
to America. I will and I've been careful tonight too,
because well, in a roundabout way, because by the time
some of y'all podcast this, it could be done. I mean,
you could be listening to this right now, going, Oh
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my gosh. Plank was so hammered last night. He didn't
realize that Dallas Cowboys moved on from Jason Garrett because
this could happen in the next couple of hours. But
I just I don't see it happening. I think they're
gonna wait and drag it out. I don't know why.
I haven't been able to figure out why they want
to drag it out. But at the very least there
they're doing their due diligence on if they're better off
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quick before we get to Cowboy and windsor Roberto. You
would ask why didn't it work out for Joe Burrow
at Ohio State? And it's interesting because I felt the
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same way. But think about who he lost his jobs too, JT.
Barrett and Dwayne Haskins, and you look back in the
history of college quarterbacks and what they were able to do.
Those are two pretty intriguing guys and at least in
one a first round pick that we think has a
solid NFL future. With that said, Joe Burrow wasn't very
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good last year. I mean, there's a reason why my
fellow college football dorks and myself our writing articles are
throwing out talk segments about how this might be one
of the greatest one year turnarounds in the history of
college football. I mean, you go go look at his numbers,
and I just think, to your point, it's the perfect
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fit in the perfect place at the perfect time. And
ellis our Ohio State didn't end up too poorly getting
the transfer in justin fields and now they're set for
likely what at least the next two or three seasons.
So it's one of the wild things in college football.
The transfer portal now, and it has been for years,
but at least with now the immediacy of what has
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become almost immediate eligibility for any player that submits a
waiver or maybe when you're looking at a situation where
you have a grad transfer. Russell Wilson kind of started
this trend where you're looking, you watching, They're so good there?
Why didn't work out there? Well, as I've come to
understand it, you know, Joe Burrow is one of those
guys that was kind of a last minute throwing as
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a scholarship offered too, like Ohio State, and Kevin Wilson,
who was their offensive coordinator, was kind of debating if
he was even going to offer him. So it's wild.
That's probably ten thousand times more than you ever wanted
on it. But I think it's as simple as saying
that he's landed in the perfect position with Joe Brady
and Steve Enzinger running that offense, and it's just an
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absolute match made in heaven, and his coach is smart
enough to just get out of the way and let
it go. So could us at or drown from making
that move? All right? Let's because We're running short on time,
and I never want to short my man. Cowboy. Let's
hit up the phone lines and wrap up this edition
of the Ben Maller Show with Cowboys Corner. Cowboy from Windsor,
Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Well? Thank
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you boys, US Michigan Swamp Stanford forty nine and nothing
in the first Rose Bowl in nineteen o two, but
they're only eight and twelve in the Rose Bowl. My
uncle Huy Turner would have been ninety three today, but
he died of a brain hemorrhage at sixty nine in
nineteen ninety six. And on January first, eighteen sixty three,
President Abraham Lincoln issued the Imans in Patient Proclamation, which
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freely Confederators, including oftensibly my great grandparents and Castro also
Batista from Cuba. New Year's Day fifty nine and New
Year's Day sixty two, the Beatles failed the dation for
Decca Records, which signed the Tremolos instead of New Year's Eve.
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Nineteen seventy two, Roberto Clemente died in a plane crash
while delivering supplies to the earthquakes Nicaragua, and yesterday Franklin
was eighty two, as was Anthony harpin New Year's eight Country,
Joe McDonald was seventy eight, Grandmaster Flash sixty two, Morris
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Chestnuts on Facebook forty four, and Rest in Peace, David
Stern and Donson speak to people tomorrow, Martin. I always
enjoyed your reign. Is did you felt did you felt
like did you feel like Roberto? You kind of accelerated
the clock there a little bit for Cowboy. He seemed
a little bit rushed at the end there. No, we
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did all the time too. He know he knows the clock. Okay.
I just wanted to make sure he knew that I
was in no hurry, I did not. Did he give
a shout out to his uncle in the middle of that, Yes,
well done, Cowboy, well done. All right, we got a
break when we come back. Best a twitter from tonight,
and some final thoughts before we make way for Clay
Travis right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Mallar militia is happy tonight, the entire crew is back
eighty six Big Ben Eddie Garcia on updates. You just
heard him tonight. We'll get Eddie in here coming up
in just a bit. Rader Roberberto on the wheels of Steel, Cooper,
Loop Coop and his big head was all over my
Twitter feed this week. Coop, the Mallar Militia loves you
in Seattle, big head man. That's that's big time, so
(01:29):
the cruise here. I'm fired up. The best way to
get in touch with the show is always is to
pick up the phone and call, though I don't think
I've used my phone to make a call in a year,
but she should at eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
Twitter is not only the best way to venture frustrations
just basically get as angry as you want, but it's also,
(01:53):
to me the best way to get in touch with
the show. I'm at Plank Show, at Eddie on Fox,
at Raider Underscore, Rob and I always forget it, Coop.
What is It's something about the Broncos on there or
something as far as your Twitter? Yeahhaha, you forgot, by
the way. Congrats on the win. Congrats on moving us
up five draft spots and earning the title of the
Denver Broncos being a team to talk about during the offseason.
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I'm still bitter about that. At you h Bronco fan
for a coop as well, all right, and as always,
as always, we're all about your interaction throughout the night.
As I mentioned tons of NFL to get to tons
of Bowl reaction. Though, I found it interesting last night
in trying to get into the poll games, it was
an adjunct failure. I mean, there's a lot of things
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that when you look back on, you're like, maybe that
segment worked, maybe that didn't. I came to the realization
that we have a level of couldn't care less at
about nine and a half out of ten when it
comes to bowl games in college football at this point.
And I and I'm not just saying people that are
up at this ridiculous hour of night in the Central
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and Eastern time zone. It just seems to be that
way in general. So I think I hope that maybe
what we had tonight in the Rose Bowl Sugar Bowl
was okay, even though it may have been the longest
college football game ever. And we always get into a
good old fashioned Big ten v SEC kind of comparison
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when you have two of the blue bloods go at it.
But today, for me, as we kick things off on
another edition of The Ben Mallor Show, today wasn't even
about college football and its bowl games. And I'm a
diehard college football fan. I mean, it's my job, it's
what I live, it's what I do. Today was more
about celebrating what was, without a doubt, one of the
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greatest tenures in sports, and that is David Stern as
the commissioner of the NBA, as he passed away after
what a brain hemorrhage about a week and a half ago.
Now I understand, I get it that when someone passes away,
we usually get caught up in the greatness of the
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person and usually and typically we can make someone out
to be just a little bit more than they were.
I mean, we've all seen it, We've all experienced it.
In life. We remember only the good. We typically push
aside the bad. It's natural, it's what we do. It's life,
right and death in this case, But today, to me
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has been pretty amazing. And in celebrating the life of
David Stern, we either I guess I should say the
Royal we those who covered him closely, those who were
on the NBA beat or a team beat. It's almost
as if today was about accepting the shortcomings, the temper,
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this stand office offish nature that came with one David Stern,
all the things that we usually don't talk about when
someone has passed. It was almost like we were celebrating
today with David Stern. And I feel very confident when
I say that, and this comes from someone who, as
a Lakers fan, was very bitter about the whole Chris
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Paul Saga, without a doubt, he was one of the
greatest commissioners in the history of professional sports, not just
the NBA, not just the NBA where maybe you know
Larry O'Brien was a commissioner and Adam Silver as the commissioner.
Now you know in the NFL, we could probably go
about four deep in some of the commissioners that we know.
Major League Baseball obviously had a little bit longer, less
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depth chart wise of commissioners we may know, most of
us only had David Stern as the commissioner of the
NBA in most of our lifetime, So I understand that
it's kind of a small sample size, but to me,
I think with what he did, he was without a
doubt the greatest commissioner in the history of sports, and
I don't just relegate that to the NBA. He wanted
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to ban the global reach of the NBA. He wanted
the league to grow, and it did. I listen, we can.
We can sit here and debate tonight if you want
what's wrong with I don't think we need to get
knee deep in Oh my gosh, the NBA's and so
much trouble, and the TV ratings are down and nobody's watching.
It's it's a West Coast league now, after we grinched
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and moaned that it was too much of an East
Coast league for a long time, don't I don't think
that's the nature of what we do here tonight, based
on the history and the legacy that David Stern his lap,
he wanted to grow the sport and he did internationally
was a big deal to him. You know, we there
was a great Sports Illustrated cover. I guess you could say,
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maybe early in his tenure as the commissioner, that had
NBA teams all over the globe, I mean from Tel
Aviv to different places across England. I mean, it was
really his goal. It's kind of funny now to see
what the NFL is doing, But it was really his
goal to try to have a team overseas. Now, while
the game grew and became more global than ever and
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you had guys like the Tony Kup coaches of the
world and the Dirk Nowitzki that brought a foreign brand
of basketball to the NBA, we never quite reached the Oh,
I don't know as if a fair way to say
it is a true NBA team overseas. I mean, the
rackets kind of became China's team because of Yaoming kind
of look at Dirk Nowitsky in Germany, but you never
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truly ended up with a team overseas like he wanted.
But to that he grew the brand globally. I think
one of my favorite David Stern issues was the dress code.
When Tim Duncan would be showing up in what sweats
in a hoodie. What we didn't realize is that was
truly how Tim Duncan dressed, and in trying to implement
a dress code that at the time many people looked
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at and tried to find some underlying theme beyond just
that he wanted guys to look the part. I mean,
I can. I'm old enough to remember conversations on this
network about, oh, what's the undertone of trying to tell
people how to dress? How dare you David Stern? And
it's kind of catapulted the league to where pregame has
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become almost a fashion show. He was a guy to
me that didn't have a problem being the bad guy
and from someone I'm not good at that, you know,
I struggle with that. I had to block my first
person on Twitter because I'm not a I can't handle
criticism into a certain degree. I don't like being the
bad guy. I like being positive. I like being glass
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half full kind of person. David Stern couldn't care less
about this, and I appreciated that he wasn't afraid to
be the least popular person. He definitely didn't shy away
from the standoffish nature of some of his owners and
would go head to head and didn't didn't really seek
out popularity. He embraced conflict. I suck at conflict. I
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asked my wife, she wins every argument. Ask him like
Sunday Night host Arnie Spaniard, instead of fighting with him,
I have a brain. My head explodes and I'm just
like I'm the mic, I'm gonna cuss out loud, and
now we'll have this conversation. He was all about it.
I mean, I'm still bitter about vetoing the trade of
Chris Paul, but he would accept the repercussions from anybody
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who was going to complain. And if you look back
at what many have pointed out tonight as maybe his
shining moment, nineteen ninety one, Magic Johnson diagnosed with HIV.
I mean, as as a sixteen year old kid watching that,
I was pretty sure Magic Johnson was going to die
and that anyone that shook his hand was probably going
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to get HIV. That's just how clueless we were. David
Stern stood up and said, no, that's we're going to
embrace Magic, and they did, and it kind of changed
in a lot of our eyes the way in which
that disease was perceived and the way in which the
NBA would become more player centric. And I just as
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as a rap on this, I mean, I wish I
could have been a fly on the wall for some
of those conversations that he had with Mark Cuban, because
those had to be fascinating. But I think I think
in life we all kind of look at different ways
to determine success. We either want to grow our brand,
we want to make more money. We want to be
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better husbands or wives or our partners, and whatever it
might be. We want to find, for some of even
more strength in our faith. We want to read more,
we want to exercise more, whatever it might be, maybe
put the phone down more. As we're kind of in
this era of or at least this time right now
of New Year's resolutions, but as we sit here today
and we celebrate the life and the legacy of David Stern,
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it appears to me as if he's one of the
few people who kind of accomplished just about every professional
goal imaginable that he had for the NBA. I mean,
I don't have to sit here and tell you about
the tape delay era. I mean in the early eighties,
the NBA Finals were on after your late local news,
and I was like, coming up next Johnny Carson, and
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after Johnny Carson Game four of the NBA, and again
it was it wasn't on NBC, but it was on
CBS at that time, and his tape delayed, So it
was a disaster from a TV rights perspective and he
changed that. Oh and then one other thing too, which
is kind of wild looking back now, the NBA had
a big drug problem in the early eighties. And I'm
not just talking weed the I don't know what the
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best way to describe the cocaine on the areas, nose, candy,
whatever way you want to look at it. It was
an issue in the NBA, and he became one of
the first commissioners to come up with a league wide
drug testing policy and then implementing a plan to kind
of stand up against it. So David Stern, who had
been the commissioner for gosh, the better part of what
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thirty years in the NBA from eighty four to two
and fourteen, passing away today in one of my in
my opinion, one of the greatest commissioners in all of sports.
And as the night rolls on, we'll sprinkle in some
of the reaction from the players throughout the league, former players, administrators, writers.
As you might imagine, tributes have been pouring in throughout
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the evening. But he was something pretty special and he
grew the NBA to what it is today. All Right,
With that all in mind, let's welcome in the crew.
He is back after taking one night off hashtag no
days off for Eddie Garcia, the Man, the Myth, the
Legend is back. Missed you last night, Eddie. How is
your New Year's Eve celebration? A subdued but enjoyable, just
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family get together. It was not any any kind of
outrageous get drunk and collapse somewhere. It was. Yeah, it
was very low key, very low key. Yeah, it was
kind of low key on the show. You know, I
have a I guess I have a plan whenever it
comes to this program. It's it's either the two energy
drinks I have behind door number one, or it's the
(12:52):
six pack of PAP's Blue Ribbon that I have behind
door number two. We didn't have to break out the
PBR last night, but but you were missed and it
was somewhat subdued the show as well too. So I
did you get to take in hockey today or no?
Absolutely no. You know I'm a huge hockey fan, so
I mean there were there were I was sad to
miss Minnesota Auburn because that looked like it was a
pretty good game. But I checked out the winner classic
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thought it was an awesome event that down there in
Dallas at the Cotton Bowl. When I first heard it
was at the Cotton Ball, it's kind of like, I
don't know about that, but it turned out to be
be awesome. As somebody who has spent many a saturdays
in the Cotton Bowl, yeah, I was. I was surprised
by how smooth it seemed everything went. I mean, there's
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you realize there's two games that are played at the
Cotton Bowl the entire there's two football games there's and
it's not the Cotton Bowl anymore. No, the Cotton Bowl
is played at at and T Stadium, right where the
Coboys played. It's OEU Texas and it's I can't think
it's um like Texas Southern and somebody plays and that's it.
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So you have basically two events in an arena all
Er Stadium, I should say, all year long. And then
they added hockey and I don't know, Eddie, I guess
it looked like it went off without a hitch today,
didn't it. Well. I know they had some weather issues
a couple of days before, a lot of rain and
they had to like completely redo the ice a couple
of days before, which isn't something you just do you know,
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in like a day. It takes a couple of days.
But evidently they were able to get it. They worked
you know, through the through the night, and we're able
to get it to work out. And the conditions, you know,
those outdoor games, they're never great, but it's you know,
the same for both sides. It's kind of like, I
guess playing a football game and some inclement weather. You
do get the puck bouncing around a little bit here
and there. But but it looked like you went off
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pretty well, smooth baby. Well, we'll have to talk a
little bit more about the Lord's game hockey coming up
a little bit later on in the program Reddy Rob
Roberto running the show Coop on the phone to d
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Robert to any
crazy stories from New Year's Eve or were you subdued
as well? Didn't end up slumped over anywhere on on
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Tuesday night, Nah chilled at the house with the wife, daughter,
my brother, sister in law, and the godson. So look
at you, Coop. Someone had to get wild on this
show last night. Coop, did you no, yes? No? Maybe?
You know, well that's not the best answer, to be fair,
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Coop's choice to party with leads to being subdued. If
you will right exactly, I'm not. I'm not really Uh,
you know, I don't drink, so yeah, I don't get
too wild. Did you see the lines in Illinois? By
the way, today Illinois became Illinois became, I think what,
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the fourth state to legalize weed recreationally. We have medicinal
weed here in Oklahoma. Boys. You have to get a
I don't think the word is a permit. A doctor
has to kind of give you what's what's basically called
a mari on a card and you can go to
a This shows you how stringent the process is, Eddie.
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You have to go to a website and type in
a few things to get your weed card. But in
in Illinois today, boom, it became legal and the lines
were substantial. So kudos kudos Illinois today. A good laid
back New Year's Eve. We didn't do a damn thing
on this show last night, and I stand up against
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the claims already being made by Terry on Twitter at
Plank Show, at Planks on Twitter, at Eddie on Fox.
You can hit up the whole crew. We did not
do list Radio last night. Terry, stop it. That's not
my mo, That's not what this is about. How dare
I actually mentioned some of the top stories from the decade?
I think we mentioned two. I don't know if two's
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really a list, is it. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. I am all in now and have been
for the better part of the last week on the
Dallas Cowboys job. And I don't know why I don't
like the Cowboys. I'm not a fan. I had to
fight with people last night about the NFL being better
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when Dallas is good. And I'm not saying it to hate. Well,
I guess I am Hayden. I just I'm not a fan,
never have been. But yet I'm in this position to
where you kind of look at it and you realize, damn,
this is dominating the headlines beyond anything else. It's we
have the playoffs starting right now, but yet what are
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people talking about? Boy, what's Jerry Jones doing? What's going on?
Why the delay? Why haven't we seen any movement? Now?
I know that that's probably falling on somewhat deaf ears
in Minnesota and in Nashville and in places where your
team is actually playing this weekend, but across the board,
it's the biggest story in the NFL right now. So
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I did a little dig in because Eddie got in
my mind thinking during the last segment of potential replacements
beyond just chasing a Josh McDaniels and I'll have a
couple of notes on college targets as well later on
here on The Ben Maller Show. But Mike Zimmer did
get extended beyond twenty nineteen this offseason and ended up
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getting a one year extension on his deal, and maybe
just maybe being mentioned this cowboy conversation could get that
deal extended longer, or maybe Rick Spielman in Minnesota. Move on.
There was an article on I think it was sometimes
I'm hesitant to give credit to like the yard Barkers
or the fansided sites because they're just basically aggregation. You
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say one thing and that ends up being a headline.
It's a most ridiculous thing ever. But still this was
well done, and there had been some noise that Zimmer's
job is on the line if they don't make a
deep run in the playoffs, which to me, based on
where Minnesota is now or they've been over the last
twenty years, I think it's kind of crazy. I think
Zimmer has done a heck of a job and it
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might be a situation in Dallas where he's had many
opportunities to potentially be the choice of Jerry Joins Jones
and the Cowboys for years. I mean, the dude was
there in ninety four, he was there through two thousand
and what seven. I mean, you're there thirteen years and
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you don't get an opportunity to become the head coach.
You're constantly kind of viewed as a defensive minded guy
and you not really given the rein. So I could
understand two where maybe maybefore a Zimmer that you look
at it and say, yeah, you know, appreciate the opportunity,
but I'm not going to talk to you. I'm not
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gonna do it. And I guess if you go with
the motivational mindset. And I heard Jonas talking about this
on was that Monday Night, Minnesota was left out of
the playoff promo. Oh maybe maybe they've got a little
bit more juice on that front. But as Ian Rappaport
reported earlier this week. Among the likely targets include not
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only three college coaches, but the potential to trade for
someone like Mike Zimmer, who, by the way, boys, if
I call him Don Zimmer for some reason, whenever her
Eddie reported on Don Larson, I started talking about Don
Zimmer during the break, So we're off to a roar
and start with my mind here to I said no
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when I'm meant to say yes. And I was having
a long term conversation about how I thought Don Zimmer
to actually passed away years ago when spoiler alert he had,
and Eddie was talking about Don Larson. So just to
kind of defend myself and call myself out so you
don't have to. If in talking about Mike Zimmer, I
call him Don Zimmer, just bust me out on it.
We've seen coaches get traded for before. I mean, obviously,
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the Raiders picked up a bunch of draft picks for
John Gruden back in two thousand and two, and I
didn't realize the Buccaneer has had to send a sixth
round pick to Arizona for Bruce Arians last off season.
But if you truly think about it, you're looking at
a guy that has had I don't want to say
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unparalleled success, because Minnesota has been a team that's gone
to Super Bowls before. I don't want to get too
carried away here, but as far as regular season success,
it's pretty impressive what you've seen so far. Out of
the run that Mike Zimmer has had as the Minnesota
Vikings head coach. Eric checks in on Twitter Zimmer is
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going nowhere. The Cowboys have a better chance of getting
Woody Hayes to coach leave my Vikings alone. Brow. That
would be something, would it not? If Woody Hayes may
he rest in peace, suddenly shows up as the next
head coach to the Dallas Cowboys. Eddie writes Brady and
McDaniels plus a lego head of Steve Harvey will end
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up in Dallas for Jerry Jones and adds the Jason
and Garrett conspiracy theory you outlined is true. Edward Snowden said,
so political humor. I like it, and yeah, you know,
it's kind of interesting. I was thinking about it at
Shady Shawn for twenty. Don't know what that four twenty means. Shaw,
I don't have to google it up, but he had
actually brought up this theory over the weekend. And again,
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I'm not saying that I'm all in on the idea
that Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are waiting for the
opportunity to talk to Josh McDaniels and their target and
their eyes on maybe making a push for Tom Brady.
But I think it's interesting, and I don't know would
that be considered a combo deal, Eddie. I think you
hit it on the head too before we get to
the phones at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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eight seven seven nine nine six three six nine. And
I love Tom Brady. I mean, what he's done is incredible.
But Edie, if you're going out and you're trying to
find yourself a guy to win me some football games,
Tom Brady sounds all well and good, But are we
not talking about a guy that's on the downward role
of his his NFL career right now? Is that really
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direction you go if you're trying to generate a spark
for your franchise. I don't think so. No, I agree.
I mean, maybe Brady will bounce back next year, or
maybe he goes someplace else and proves us all wrong.
But I mean, we've all been saying it as as
amazing as he's been over his career. At some point, right,
age catches up with you, and usually it hits you hard,
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and it seems like that's happened this year. Age is undefeated, y'all.
I know it sounds crazy because we see all the videos,
we see the workouts, we see he's in great shape.
Dude looks like he's in his early thirties. But at
some point, I mean, you are He says this a
lot on Sunday nights. Eventually the building stops. At some point,
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the skyscraper reaches a level where it can't grow anymore.
And maybe that's what we're dealing with with Brady. I'm
getting call in on this or two eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fix eight seven seven nine nine six
six three six nine. Let's let's Christine in here. Who's
in Minnesota? A little perspective on Jason Jason Garrett, what's
going on? Christine? Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. Yither, thanks,
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I listened every night. By the way, Um and the
thing about Um Zimmer, there's been a lot of talk
locally about him going to Dallas and the reason why
Jerry's drawing this out as he's trying to figure out
a way to keep Um Jason in house as maybe
like a player representative of some kind of scout or
something like that, and then bringing in Zimmer after the
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Vikings lose this weekend, which I hate to say it,
but I really didn't really think we're going to um
and that UM the Ziggy and whatever are going to
clean house here and start over, So that that seems
pretty reasonable to me. UM. I would not bring in
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Kevin Stefanski if I was anyone. He's only had one
year of offensive coaching and he didn't really start doing
good until we brought in Gary Kubiak. And I know
Kubiak doesn't want to coaching position because of his health,
but he'd be a damn good offensive coordinator. Again, he's
done really good. You know, we're our playoff chances are
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crap right now. But with Dallas, you know, I really
think that Jerry's trying to figure out a way to
keep keep what he wants and bring in a Zimmer
or someone like that. It's it's a fair point, Christina,
and I appreciate the phone call, and I saw this
laid out as well. In Pro Football Talk, and I
was going to jump on it here, but what if,
And again, I think we're unfortunately dealing in hypotheticals here,
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because you know, by the time that those of you
that listen to the podcast, by the time that you
finally download this on say a Thursday, this thing could
be over. I mean, Jerry Jones could have had his
third meeting with Jason Garrett made the decision that he's
moving on, and it's all well and good. But in
this moment, at one but twelve ten am Ppecific time,
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for some reason, despite three meetings a third meeting coming up,
Jason Garrett still the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
And to Christine's point, there is the possibility that the
Cowboys could be either negotiating a new contract for someone
to coach the team, or maybe maybe they're trying to
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find a way to keep Jason Garrett around, but just
not as the head coach. Here's the theory from Mike
Florio and Pro Football Talk. What if? What if the
Cowboys are considering hiring someone like, as Christine mentioned, Gary
Kubiak to be the head coach, but with very narrow
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and specific duties given the health issues that caused Kubiak
to stop being the head coach of the Broncos three
years ago. Kubiak has rejuvenated Minnesota's offense this year. Maybe
he could do the same in Dallas with Garrett occupying
a new kind of job with a new kind of
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title like simply coach. By the way, again, not hating here,
but coach is not a new title. I don't I
don't know where that came from, but that is absolutely
not a new title. You know, We've come up with
this very inventive and creative thing that we're going to
call you, Jason Garrett. Are you ready? Coach? Huh? You
like it? They did back it up though, to basically
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Kubiak's head coach or assistant head coach or assistant to
the head coach or co head coach. It continues here quickly.
Maybe the Cowboys will be the second NFL team to
essentially have two head coaches. Now, you have to go
back to World War two times, and I guess Eddie,
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at some point your Steelers had a blended team with
the Eagles. Go figure with Kubiak installed as maybe a
half step above Garrett, and with Garrett doing most of
the heavy lifting that would otherwise be done by Kubiak.
You know, I would almost I would almost buy Arnie
Spanier and his quote unquote sources with the possibility of
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looking at a front office role before. I think anybody
would take less of a responsibility to have someone come
in and take over their job that they've had for
a decade essentially, and then boom, you're no longer the
guy in charge. I don't understand how that would work.
Wouldn't you have guys undercutting each other all the time?
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I mean, it would take a pretty solid relationship for
something like that to work. I guess the bottom line
here more than anything else it is it's a question
that kind of permeates beyond just what we could debate here,
and it goes into kind of the compensation, the opportunity
to win. I mean, facilities aren't really a big conversation
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in the world of the National Football League, but it
does factor in when you have a stadium at and
T Stadium. Is the Cowboys head coaching job a good
job if you're an NFL head coach, or maybe we
need to kind of pigeonhole that down a little bit.
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If you're a college football coach and you're looking for
that next step and Jerry Jones wants you. Is that
the kind of gig that you would feel comfortable sliding
into knowing that you're constantly going to have the overlord
that will make every decision for you and Jerry Jones.
If you're comfortable on that, go go do it. If not,
it's gonna be pretty hard to find a gig in
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the NFL where you're not going to have power that's
just all yours. Not many people get a John Gruden
Bill Belichick set up, and maybe more specifically a John
Gruden set up right out of the gate. It's like, oh, welcome,
Oh you're a former you're a college coach right now, listen,
you're gonna be the GM. Go for go find your
personnel guy. That just doesn't happen. I mean, the owners
want there there, say so, I want to get your
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takes on that. So we'll pull the crew when we
come back on the Ben Mallers Show. But think about it,
is the Dallas Cowboys head coaching job still the best
job in the NFL. Is it a big time gig? Absolutely?
But is it a good job? I mean, is it
is it a place that should be able to have
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its pick of the litter. I'll say one thing in
defense of it, and I can't believe I'm having to
defend the Dallas Cowboys. But they've shown a commitment to
a coach. Jerry Jones has shown that he's not necessarily
going to knee jerk at the first sign of problems.
He's going to give a guy a chance. He gave
Jason Garrett nine years. They gave Bill Parcels obviously as
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much time as he wanted until Parcells lost his mind
because he was tired of the meddling. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at
two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Got your best tweets
of the night coming up. Also, a cowboy from Windsor
is hanging there. We'll get to him. Wait what am
I saying? He's hanging in there. We'll get to him
next here on Fox Sports Radio. In the meantime. In
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the meantime, I wanted to play a quick little segment
a buy or sell with the crew. This is where
I lay out either a scenario or I guess, maybe
more than anything else, ask a question, lay out a statement. Maybe,
and we'll see if the crew is buying or selling this.
As has kind of typified my takes tonight, we start
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with Eddie Garcia. So Eddie, here's our first buyer sell.
We'll go right, I got three of them. Will be quick.
I know we're up against it, but I want everyone's
take on this, all right, buy or sell, Eddie? And
I know we've discussed this quite a bit. But the
Saints or the team this week and that could end
up making a run to the super Bowl. I would
buy that, Yes, Roberto, buyer sell Saints or the team
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this week playing this week and that could make a
run of the super Bowl. Yes, definitely. They are one
of my pre predictions to manticipate. Bolgan the Saint. Nice Cooper,
you on board this as well? Or yeah, I am
by all across the board on a bye. The only
thing that could happen is maybe something weird. So with
that in mind, buy or sell, Eddie. There's too many
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bowls and something needs to be done about the college game.
It's at the toothpastes out of the tube. So I
just want to be clear. Nothing is going to be done,
but buy or sell. College football has to fix its
multiple uninteresting bowl games. I am totally buying that there
are way too many bowl games. I don't even care
about half of them. And I mean, call me old fashioned,
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but I think a bowl game should be a reward
for a not just a good season, but a very
good season and you know, going six and six or
you know, being barely above five hundred. I mean, who
cares why? I mean, I know they're just made for
TV events, and I guess some people watch them. I don't.
I love college football and I have zero interest in
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the great majority of these games. Now, there were some
great games today we're not talking about, you know, the
Rose Bowl and those types, even though they're not you know,
there's the rotation and sometimes they're not a part of
the playoffs. But no, they need to get rid of
a lot of these ball games. So are you trying
to tell me you're not fired up about the Ticketmaster
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Birmingham Bowl today between a six and six Boston College
team in Cincinnati, or the tax Lay or Gator Bowl
between India and Tennessee's now what you're trying to tell me, Eddie,
Because that's the vibe I'm getting, and I think I
agree That's what I'm trying to tell repair. Toe buyers
sell that too many bowl games. I'm buying that. And
now with not that there's a that, not that they
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have the college Football Playoff, that's only those are the
only games I watched. I don't even watch any of
the bowl games, even even the Rules Bowl. Man. I
just to love the Rose Bowl now too much. I
was getting yelled at for not talking enough about the
Rose Bowl on Twitter, and then I realized, well, what
can you say, Oregon one? Congrats? Yeah, I mean it's
a hell of a game. Hell of a game. Uh, Coope,
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what about you? And I gotta be honest with you.
I'm kind of in on bowl games. But I also
realized at one point I'm not gonna sit down and
make time for a six and sixteen playing Cincinnati tomorrow
as far as bowl season is concerned. How about you, Coop, Chris,
you can never have too many bowls? And I agree upon.
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I don't. I don't even I don't. I don't watch
college football at all anymore these days, So all right,
fair enough? You know what if if if you have
a gambling interest, it makes sense. I guess there's some
easy money to be made here. But still, I just
I love college football and I've usually had to take
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of listen. If you don't like the bulls, don't watch them.
But then I realize we're rewarding teams with mediocre season
and yet mediocre seasons. And yes, I'm all about the
kids and making it a great experience for everyone in involved,
but come on, and then, guys, since I won't have
a chance to hang out with you, sticking with college
football next week as Big Ben returns, Eddie buy Or Sell,
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Trevor Lawrence is going to do it again and upset
LSU in the National Championship Game. I'm selling that. Um.
I like Trevor Lawrence a lot. I thought his performance
against Ohio State was phenomenal. And I really love the
Clemson program. If I was a five star recruit and
I could pick any program to go to, I would
go to Clemson. But that haven't been said. Joe Burrow
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is out of this world, and LSU I think just
has a little bit better athlete. So and it's in
the game, by the way, is in New Orleans it
is Yeah, So um, sorry Clemson and Trevor Lawrence, It's
not gonna happen, Roberto, you're buying that, are selling it
on Clemson for the championship game. I'm selling that, lsu
Joel Burrow, so damn good Coop. How about you football?
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Go ahead, just guess with oh buy the Colors selling.
I will say this, I've been blessed in my other job,
if you will, to see some of the best of
college football up close for the better part of the
last twenty years. And I have never seen a better
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individual performance than Joe Burrow last week. And I'm telling
you what it's It looks like it's going to continue
this week. I think you're getting You're gonna get a
good game. Question why why didn't he make it an
Ohio State? Was that just bad decision to not goal
of Joe Burrow the offense? I think it's a great question.
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And since we're running so long here, let me table
an answer to that until after Eddie Garcia is update.
I'm trying to work on my clock management, Coup. I'm
trying to work on my clock management and it's been
horrific today, Robert though, so i'd send improvement over the normal,
but let me answer it after Eddie Garcia gets us
caught up on everything going on in the world of
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sports and coming up today. What's going on, Eddie. Well,
unfortunately we had two legendary sports figures passing away on
New Year's Day, former NBA commissioner Davis Stern dying at
the age of seventy seven following a brain hemorrhage three
weeks ago. Arguably the greatest commissioner in all of sports,
he guided the NBA to unprecedented heights from nineteen eighty
four to twenty fourteen. And former Major League pitcher Don
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Larson died at the age of ninety. He's the only
man in history of baseball to throw a perfect game
in the World Series. He did that for the Yankees
in nineteen fifty six against the Brooklyn Dodgers. College football,
he had four New Year's Day Bowl games. In the
Rose Bowl, Oregon gets by Wisconsin twenty eight twenty seven,
Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert, known more for his arm than
his legs, ran for three scores, including the game winner.
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In the fourth quarter. Sugar Bowl. Georgia had a nineteen
nothing lead at the half over Baylor and then went
on for a twenty six fourteen victory. Quarterback Jake From
a couple of TD passes for the Bulldogs. In the
Citrus Bowl, it was Alabama over Michigan thirty five sixteen
Mac Jones three touchdown passes for alb Amma for Michigan.
They now lost sixteen straight games away from home against
top fifteen teams, and in the Outback Bowl, Minnesota gets
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Chris if you're keeping scorer. The Dallas Cowboys have now
had with the three meetings with Jason Garrett meeting today
and we still don't know what they're going to do,
so we'll we'll maybe we'll find out later today, maybe not,
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but they've got to have more meetings to figure out
what they want to do. It's America's team. It's the
most American thing ever is to have an s ton
of meetings. They just waste everyone's time. I mean, welcome
to America. I will and I've been careful tonight too,
because well, in a roundabout way, because by the time
some of y'all podcast this, it could be done. I mean,
you could be listening to this right now, going, Oh
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my gosh. Plank was so hammered last night. He didn't
realize that Dallas Cowboys moved on from Jason Garrett because
this could happen in the next couple of hours. But
I just I don't see it happening. I think they're
gonna wait and drag it out. I don't know why.
I haven't been able to figure out why they want
to drag it out. But at the very least there
they're doing their due diligence on if they're better off
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quick before we get to Cowboy and windsor Roberto. You
would ask why didn't it work out for Joe Burrow
at Ohio State? And it's interesting because I felt the
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same way. But think about who he lost his jobs too, JT.
Barrett and Dwayne Haskins, and you look back in the
history of college quarterbacks and what they were able to do.
Those are two pretty intriguing guys and at least in
one a first round pick that we think has a
solid NFL future. With that said, Joe Burrow wasn't very
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good last year. I mean, there's a reason why my
fellow college football dorks and myself our writing articles are
throwing out talk segments about how this might be one
of the greatest one year turnarounds in the history of
college football. I mean, you go go look at his numbers,
and I just think, to your point, it's the perfect
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fit in the perfect place at the perfect time. And
ellis our Ohio State didn't end up too poorly getting
the transfer in justin fields and now they're set for
likely what at least the next two or three seasons.
So it's one of the wild things in college football.
The transfer portal now, and it has been for years,
but at least with now the immediacy of what has
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become almost immediate eligibility for any player that submits a
waiver or maybe when you're looking at a situation where
you have a grad transfer. Russell Wilson kind of started
this trend where you're looking, you watching, They're so good there?
Why didn't work out there? Well, as I've come to
understand it, you know, Joe Burrow is one of those
guys that was kind of a last minute throwing as
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a scholarship offered too, like Ohio State, and Kevin Wilson,
who was their offensive coordinator, was kind of debating if
he was even going to offer him. So it's wild.
That's probably ten thousand times more than you ever wanted
on it. But I think it's as simple as saying
that he's landed in the perfect position with Joe Brady
and Steve Enzinger running that offense, and it's just an
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absolute match made in heaven, and his coach is smart
enough to just get out of the way and let
it go. So could us at or drown from making
that move? All right? Let's because We're running short on time,
and I never want to short my man. Cowboy. Let's
hit up the phone lines and wrap up this edition
of the Ben Maller Show with Cowboys Corner. Cowboy from Windsor,
Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Well? Thank
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you boys, US Michigan Swamp Stanford forty nine and nothing
in the first Rose Bowl in nineteen o two, but
they're only eight and twelve in the Rose Bowl. My
uncle Huy Turner would have been ninety three today, but
he died of a brain hemorrhage at sixty nine in
nineteen ninety six. And on January first, eighteen sixty three,
President Abraham Lincoln issued the Imans in Patient Proclamation, which
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freely Confederators, including oftensibly my great grandparents and Castro also
Batista from Cuba. New Year's Day fifty nine and New
Year's Day sixty two, the Beatles failed the dation for
Decca Records, which signed the Tremolos instead of New Year's Eve.
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Nineteen seventy two, Roberto Clemente died in a plane crash
while delivering supplies to the earthquakes Nicaragua, and yesterday Franklin
was eighty two, as was Anthony harpin New Year's eight Country,
Joe McDonald was seventy eight, Grandmaster Flash sixty two, Morris
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Chestnuts on Facebook forty four, and Rest in Peace, David
Stern and Donson speak to people tomorrow, Martin. I always
enjoyed your reign. Is did you felt did you felt
like did you feel like Roberto? You kind of accelerated
the clock there a little bit for Cowboy. He seemed
a little bit rushed at the end there. No, we
(43:31):
did all the time too. He know he knows the clock. Okay.
I just wanted to make sure he knew that I
was in no hurry, I did not. Did he give
a shout out to his uncle in the middle of that, Yes,
well done, Cowboy, well done. All right, we got a
break when we come back. Best a twitter from tonight,
and some final thoughts before we make way for Clay
Travis right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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