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May 9, 2024 38 mins

Chris Plank & Eddie Garcia are in for Ben Maller as they discuss the NBA playoffs, the naming process for the NHL's Utah franchise, Puck the World, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, it's been a blast hanging with you guys tonight
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(00:22):
going to I think the best way to put it
is puck the world coming up here in a moment.
But a few notes, just real quick. Number one. I
hate this for you, Stevie, but this tweet just absolutely
touched my soul. I don't know if you saw it, Eddie.
Stevie Wrights. I'm a forty three year old fan of

(00:43):
the Dolphins. They are the biggest team in my life.
I cry when they win and when they lose. When
Arnie talks about the Miami Dolphins, I don't like them.
It's like the weird feeling of self discussed when you
look in the.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mirror when you're high.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
All right, hold on, hold on a second, Stevie, you
shouldn't be discussed now.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It depends on what kind of high you are if.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You've taken a gummy or maybe you've taken a couple
of I don't know, puffs. I don't think you should
feel bad. Now, if we're talking crack maybe that's a
little bit of a different feeling. But that's like zero
to one hundred, right. You go from loving your team,
then all of a sudden you hear Arnie talk about
him and you feel like a crackhead.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's day, gentlemen, ladies too. Sorry Lorena, that's true's day.
But by the way, just so everyone knows, we're not
picking on Arnie and we're not picking on Ben. This
all started from the backwards hat. Colin Cowards take things
that we wish people would just drop. By the way,
one of the biggest stars of the Colin Coward podcast
network is John Middlecough.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
My guy, love middle Cough.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know how to tell Coward this, but on
the picture of his podcast Eddie, there is a picture
of John wearing a backwards hat. I hope that doesn't
his ability to become a major earner for the Colin
Coward podcast network. All right, so we've been in that
world tonight. I've got some NFL to get to at

(02:10):
the bottom of this hour, and as always, we've got
NBA playoff reaction. Nicks win last night. Rick Carlisle points
his finger at the officials, But what are we missing?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Eddie?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Are you ready to take us around the world of hockey?
Are you ready for a little Puck the World here?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am. I am humbled that you would have it
so early in the final hour of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You wanted to kick off the air because, like I said,
I don't know a lot of what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
As soon as the King's loss, I just tapped out.
Of the entire.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Playoffs, I did not, So I'm here for you. Do
we at least gets rejoice?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah? Do we at least give you a fancy imaging
or an intro to this? Or no?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It worked on that, all right? We got a little
here this awesome music. I thought it was imagine it.
It was perfect, it was great. It's my bad. I apologize, Eddie.
Would you like imaging for Puck the World?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Sure, do you think that?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I not not, just because like I think you deserve
imaging for Puck the World, but I also think it
would kind of annoy Ben.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh he was his mind right.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, he's got his damn fun fact thing he plays
twenty times. So yeah, absolutely, if we could do that.
I didn't know that was an option. Hell yeah, let's
do it. Yeah yeah, all right, well until that happens.
Oh yeah, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, without
further interruption, uh, the puck the World Report. The Stanley

(03:38):
Cup playoffs are in a round number two, but we're
gonna quickly recap the first round for Chris Plank and others.
In the Eastern Conference, the New York Rangers, your President's
Trophy winners best record in the regular season, swept to
the Washington Capitals in four games. Only first round series
to be a sweep. Panthers eliminated the Lightning four games
to one. First ever playoff series went for Florida over
their in state rivals. They were zero and three before

(04:00):
this season. Hurricanes took out the Islanders four games to one,
and in the highlight of round number one, the Bruins
beat the Maple Leafs four games to three into deciding
Game seven went overtime. David Pasternak for Boston scorers in
sudden death. As Toronto has now lost seven straight elimination
games six straight game sevens, and four of those who

(04:22):
were at the hands of the Boston Bruins. Toronto has
extended the longest streak in the NHL of having won
a Stanley Cup, now fifty six years and counting. In
the West, in the first round, you had the Oilers
beating the Kings four games to one, Edmondon scoring nine
power play goals. The Kings had zero. Avalanche eliminate the
Jets four games to one. The first game was seven

(04:43):
to six Winnipeg. After that, coloraut scored them twenty two
to eight. The rest of the series, Canucks down the
Predators four games to two. Vancouver used three different goalies
in the series due to injury. Rookie Arter Silofs won
the clincher in a shutout. Games three, four, five, and
six all decided by one goal. On the road team
won each of the final five games in that interesting series.

(05:06):
And then there was a Game seven out West between
the Stars and the Golden Knights. Dallas gets the victory
in game seven. The defending Stanley Cup champs Vegas out
in the first round, second time, or the second straight
year that the Stanley Cup Champs have been ousted in
the first round. Last year it was Colorado against the
Seattle Krackett, so we're in the second round. All four

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matchups are between the same opponents in the same division,
which is due to the NHL interesting playoffs setup, but
this is what they want and they got it. In
the East, he got the Rangers against the Hurricanes. That's
not only the top two teams the Metropolitan Division, but
the top two teams in the Eastern Conference meeting in
round number two. Rangers are up two games to nothing,

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winning both games four to three. Special teams and stories.
So far, Rangers are four to nine on the power
play and Carolina is zero for ten. He also got
the Bruins against the Panthers, a rematch of last year's series,
which is one in seven games by Florida. These are
the top two teams in the Atlantic. The series is
tied at one one. Boston won the first game pretty
handily five to one. The Anthers come back and win

(06:08):
the second game handley last night, six to one. In
the West, you've got the Stars against the Avalanche, top
two teams in the Central Division. Colorado with the one
zero series advantage. They were down three to nothing on
the road in Dallas in Game one, rally back for
the four to three overtime win. And then last night
they bed comeback by the Canucks against the Oilers' top
two teams in the Pacific Division. You've got the all
Canadian matchup. Last Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup, unfortunately,

(06:31):
Chris was the nineteen ninety three Montreal Canadians against r
LA Kings, but Vancouver up one game nothing. They were
down four to one, scored four and answered and win
it by a score of five to four. So there's
your update on the Stanley Cup playoffs. First, some hockey news.
The coaching carousel is spinning. Winnipeg Jets head coach Rick
Bonus announced his retirement after thirty eight seasons behind an

(06:54):
NHL bench. Sixty nine year old was the head coach
of the Jets. This year. They had fifty two wins
at one hundred and ten points and he was nominated
for the Jack Adams Trophy for Coach of the Year.
But he's calling it quits after a two thousand, seven
hundred and twenty six games on the bench as an
assistant or a head coach. Ottawa Centers hired Travis Green

(07:14):
to be their next head coach. He gets a four
year deal. This is his second time being an NHL
head coach. He previously coached in Vancouver, mixed results there.
He was most recently an assistant in New Jersey at
Saint Lewis. Blue took the interim tag off of Drew Bannister,
so he's now their head coach. He gets a two
year deal. He took over for the fired Craig Barube
back in December. We still have coaching vacancies in New Jersey, Seattle,

(07:35):
San Jose, Winnipeg. There's an interim coach in LA who
may or may not get the job, and we could
see a firing in Toronto of their head coach. Frankly,
I'm kind of surprised hasn't happened to this point. All Right,
your Heart Trophy finalists and your Ted Lindsay finalists. Now,
if you don't know, there are two awards for MVP.
One's voted on by the media, one's voted on by
the players. So you've had two of the same finalists

(07:59):
for the Heart and the Linz. That was Nathan McKinnon
to Colorado, Nikita Kucher out of Tampa Bay. The media
voted Connor McDavid at Edmonton as the third finalist. The
players voted Austin Matthews of Toronto as their third finalist.
They had sixty nine goals this year for the Leaps.
There was zero drama or intrigue in the NHL Draft lottery.

(08:20):
San Jose Sharks had the best odds to win it
with the worst record, and they won it. They'll get
the first overall pick for the first time in their
franchise history. There was zero change in the draft order
as far as where teams finished in the standings. Macklin
Celebrini is reportedly going to be the number one pick now.
He does have ties to the San Jose area. He's
the son of Rick Celebrini, who is the Golden State

(08:40):
Warriors director of Sports Medicine and Performance. Lived in San
Jose for a while, played for the Junior Sharks growing up,
so kind of cool that he does have ties to
the Bay Area. He was a freshman at Boston University
this season won the Hobe Baker Award as the NCAA's
top men's college player. Could become the first player ever
to win that award and then go number one overall
in the gonna make a decision on whether you return

(09:02):
to college or turn pro. He's only seventeen years old,
so him going back to college for another year and
might not be the worst idea ever. And finally, you
may or may not know, the Arizona Codes are moving
to Utah for next season. Now the logo and the
name Coyotes are staying in Arizona, So Utah looking for
a new team name. They announced that next year they're

(09:25):
gonna do a Washington football team move and go Utah
on the front of the jersey. Not gonna have a
nickname next year, but they are having fan voting to
decide what the nickname will be, and you can vote
online on this. So here are your list of choices.
You can vote up to four, but you can only
vote once. You're your list of twenty potential names Utah

(09:47):
Hockey Club, Boo oh Gosh, here you go, Blast, Powder Hive, Cariboo,
Black Diamonds, Squall, Fury, Fraud, Lost Canyons, swarm, Ice, Mountaineers,
Freeze Outlaws, Mammoth, Venom, Blizzard, Glaciers, and the one the

(10:12):
one selected by our own Lorrena, which we are one
hundred percent behind.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
The Yetti were the Utah yetdie got my vote? Uh,
that's your puck the World Report. It's fantastic, Eddie. I
I learned so much. I have nothing to offer. Accept
this question. Why do teams do that? And I say teams?
I think two have Washington with a football team in
now Utah.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Just get your name. Why does it need to be
this little drawn out process? Yes, I don't know, but
it does it help? Does it help generate interest? Fight
going through this process?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't know when I have a great story. This
was right before I started working in radio. There was
a basketball team and I don't remember what the you
have an aba, but it was like a minor league
basketball league, and they got a team. They brought a
team to Tulsa, my beloved nine to one eight, and

(11:09):
they they came on the radio station like listen fourteen thirty,
which was the radio station at the time. You are
going to be the exclusive place to decide the name
of our hockey team and that and let's I'm sorry
of our basketball team. Now, let's remember at that time
there weren't online polls. We're talking like mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
You had. It was calls.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's like, hey, guys, call the station and register your vote.
I mean, Eddie, we had shows where we could kick
our feet up, right, or at least that was the rumor.
This was before I started. They just kicked the feed up,
won't do anything. I think it should be the Tulsa
this I And so they came to this conclusion and
they had the winning name, and they submitted it to
the team. They're gonna have this big announcement and they're

(11:56):
gonna have this big unveiling and when they when the
team show up with the jersey to have the unveiling
of the name live on the radio show that the
listeners of I guess it was Sports Radio fourteen thirty.
At the time it picked out, the name was not
the name that anyone had voted on, and it was
the name they decided it was going to be regardless.
It was all a huge publicity's done, right, So they

(12:17):
did this thing forever talking about the team now, and
it wasn't It wasn't even a name that I think.
I think it was like the Fat like the Breakers
or something, and no one was even thinking that was
going to be it. So I wonder, you know, it's
not that hard. It's really not that hard. To get
a name and start creating an identity and a logo.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
But think, because you're overthinking this at Utah, it's not
that hard, so you're just gonna be I did.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It in one night.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Lorena did it in one night. She said, yetie, and
we're like, that's it, that's it.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I think that's perfect.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
The fact that it was taking months is killing me.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
So did you say that you could vote as up
to four times or you could Yeah, you can vote
for four and.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
A Yes, you can vote on four names, but only
one time.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do we even do it?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I guess they're gonna like draw it out longer, get
down to you know, a certain number of finalists, and
do it again. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's not even one of the quick note on this.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Sometimes you would do something like this to generate clicks
on a website and there'll be tons of advertising the pop.
This is just NHL in Utah Smith Entertainment. It's not
even a website where you're drawing people too. It's not
even the radio stage where they're trying to get calls
and then they're gonna make up their own name for it.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Come on, Utah, figure it out. Hey, so Kings real quick.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Just because I have kind of been following the coaching carousel,
I haven't decided who I think should be.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
The guy Drew.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Banister, by the way, looks like a like a high
school principal that you'm upset.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Look at it.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
He looks like you had to go talk to mister
Banister because you got in trouble for talking in class.
And it's just I agree, yes, But is there a
favorite out there right now? Is there a guy that
every Kings fan wants?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I you know, I certainly haven't pulled the Kingdom, so
to speak, but I'd love Craig Berubey, who won a
Stanley Cup with Saint Louis. I think he's going to
be the number one target for most teams that are vacancy,
so he's going to be He's gonna pick and choose
wherever it is he wants to go. I think New
Jersey would be a nice place. They underachieved, They've got
talent there. But I'd love for him to be the

(14:18):
King's head coach. But it seems like they're leaning towards
taking the interim tag off of Jim Hiller. So Jim Hiller,
he did a good job, but I just, you know,
time to get a new voice in there for me.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, I got some rock stars that are ready to emerge.
All right, Well, good stuff. There is Puck the World
with Eddie Garcia to kick off our final hour, which
means when we come back, we got to get caught
up on some NBA news from the night that was.
After the bottom of the hour. Players are speaking out
now about the potential expansion of the schedule and is
there a conspiracy theory as to why the NFL schedule

(14:52):
hasn't been released yet. It's all coming up on a
busy Thursday morning edition at the Ben Mallord Show.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
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Speaker 2 (15:07):
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(16:09):
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Speaker 1 (16:12):
So during the break, I saw this post from one
of the football aggregation sites. So I'm not necessarily gonna
bring you the best backstory about this study or understanding
what it's truly about, but I'm fascinated by it.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So here's the simple way of laying it out for you, guys. Eddie.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
It says NFL fans spending averages by team in the AFC,
and there's three levels. There's concessions are three categories concessions, alcohol,
and merchandise. So I don't know. I mean, I guess
this couldn't be anything but in stadium, right, because how
could you know how much alcohol I'm drinking if I'm

(16:59):
at a bar or if I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Going to the liquor store.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean, I don't go by my fit the crown
and say Raiders fan here put it up on that. Yeah,
I'm an alcoholic Raiders fan. Yeah, I mean, I just
I don't know how you could gauge it any other way.
But I gotta admit I'm kind of impressed with some
of the numbers here for Karen's Chargers are Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, this kind of threw me off. And maybe part
of this too is price.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Average fan spending by team alcohol wise the most. The
franchise whose fans spend the most, you guys want to
give a guest in the ass, I would guess Buffalo
Buffalo's a very good guess, but actually Buffalo's was kind
of surprisingly low.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
They must purchase all their their spirits before I.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, I guess so, because it's so just to give
you an idea, we'll use Buffalo as an example. Here
it says they're average spending per fan seventy five dollars
and fifty nine cents on concessions, thirty eight dollars and
thirty seven cents on alcohol, than one hundred and forty
six dollars and seventy one cents on merchandise. Boy, you

(18:11):
tack that on to three hundred dollars for tickets, and
I got to start working where you guys work.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, holy smokes.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
All right, So alcohol bills, as you could tell, kind
of a surprisingly low number. The number, and this is
the AFC only the number one team as far as
money spend by its fans on alcohol. The New York
Jets at fifty seven dollars and seventy eight cents. Hey,

(18:37):
I guess you could say relatively close second the New
England Patriots at fifty three dollars in three cents, and
Eddie Garcia the Los Angeles Chargers come in third.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Fifty one dollars in ninety five cents.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Is it just a party at those Chargers games? Or
what it's got to be the price of the liquor too?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Right? I mean, it's more expensive there than most places,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't know for a fact. I honestly, I'm one
of those fans. I never you never drank or drink
at the stadium. It's all. It's all before we go
when the gates open, and we tail gate until the
dates open. I don't, but I don't ever get anything
in the stadium is too expensive, so and plus is

(19:24):
not as good as what's being grilled out there in
the parkie line.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I think I was. I was having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think it was in a roundabout way, and I've
said I think like five times because I'm pretty sure
this was a point.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That Mike Carmen was making.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
We were complaining one night about the cost of a game,
and I think it might have been Danny g that said, well,
I just spent one hundred dollars on nachos and this
and that, and my Carmen's point was, you know, all
you have to do is not spend on the concessions,
and a sporting event can be incredibly affordable as long
as you make the decision in that hey, let's eat beforehand,

(20:02):
or let's eat in the parking lot or let's tailgate.
You're gonna save a ridiculous amount of I think that's
what I'm learning. And this is more than anything else, Eddie,
between concessions and alcohol and merchandise, and I don't think
alcohol is included in concessions. Maybe it is, but you're
spending an extra almost three hundred and fifty almost four
hundred dollars if you're doing that whenever you go to

(20:22):
a game.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't know why anybody does that, honestly.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that was the alcohol side.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
As far as merchandise, probably no surprise, but with the
Chiefs winning Super Bowls, they're the top merchandise biller, if
you will. Number two on that list the Raiders. Raider
fans average one hundred and ninety nine dollars and seventy
six cents on merchandise. And guess who's third, the Los

(20:53):
Angeles Chargers. Who AFC West, Baby, They're coming for you again.
I don't know Finance Buzz did this report. I saw
it off an aggregation site.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was it just last year from last year?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I would assume it was just from last year.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I would assume, because I mean this was I told
you there wasn't a lot of research done into this
actual study, but it was it was pretty hilarious. It
was pretty hilarious when you started digging into it you saw,
Oh my gosh, I wonder if that's more prices of
the food, prices of the alcohol, because isn't the big

(21:32):
thing and they don't have the NFC here, but everyone's
always bragging about how cheap everything is in Atlanta because
they've cut all their concession prices. I wonder if that
would mean there is this significantly Oh look here it
is the AFC. Yeah, Atlanta's concession prices for all the
bragging isn't even as low as Carolina. But again, is
that a product eddy of people not going to Carolina

(21:53):
Panther game?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah? I think that might be a factor.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Now, all right, we'll do with that what you made.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
But it's out there at underscore mL football, but fans
average spending. Meanwhile, we're still awaiting an update speaking of
the NFL, on the Rashi Rice situation.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Now, which one?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Ding ding, ding Ding.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I love the little gift that's made the round so
many times.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's a sheep, all right.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I think it's some sort of furry animal that a
farmer is helping to pull out of a ditch, and
it pulls it out of the ditch. He saves the sheep,
and the sheep jumps two more like two more steps
down the right and then falls right back in the
levee or whatever it is. And I like how people
have said, hey, look, it's the chiefs trying to help
Rashi Rice, because that's exactly what's happening here. But apparently

(22:47):
he did not have any physical contact with a photographer
at a nightclub. It was a verbal altercation, and according
to reports, he could now be cleared by police in
the investigation. I ask you this, Eddie, is it one
story about getting in trouble off the field with Rushi
Rice a little bit too much? I Mean, I don't
want anyone having the kind of incidents like he did

(23:08):
on the Dallas Freeway. But are we getting to the
point where he's about ready to get himself in enough
trouble where the chiefs just say, all right, dude, we're out,
We're gonna move on.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Uh well, maybe yeah, maybe. I Mean, look, if he
was innocent of this latest incident it was just a
verbal thing, then, you know, I mean the first thing
was bad enough. Yeah, he got very lucky that somebody
wasn't seriously injured or killed.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Frankly, so, I still get very triggered by the video
of that when they're just walking down the street. They're
literally just destroyed, big deal, endless amounts of card and
then they're just walking down the streets like I see
you later. I got to put a person that's gonna
come take care of this unbelievable But no new news
this morning on the Rushi rice side.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
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or the draft of beer.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, let's what you do. He did have a meet
up I think it was in Wisconsin, and it was
like an effusion Mexican christaurant.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So there's no rhyme or reason to this, is what
you're telling me.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, it was. It was the place that somebody there suggested.
I believe that's how.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It works, Stash English Breakfast. All right, So we'll see
you there coming up this weekend. Is he gonna fly
you guys out for it to be a part of it?

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yes, we're taking the Fox Sports radio jet and we
are excited uh to.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Do that, uh real quick before we get some NFL stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
The take that you'll hear incessantly, probably all day long
is the one of Rick Carlisle, who, well, I guess
there is a second part to this too that I
haven't really played enough tonight. But after the Nix win
over the Pacers one thirty one twenty one, Rick Carlisle
had seen enough. He's tired of this refereeing that's taking

(25:50):
place in Madison Square Garden. Maybe wait for it. It
would help if I actually unmute everything. Sorry, Lorena, let's
that's my bat. Let's take the second cut in three two.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
After Game one, we we always go through the film
and games where it felt like, you know, the whistles
weren't balanced, and we pulled the clips and there's a
there's a way you can submit them to the to
the NBA office. There were twenty nine plays in game
one that we thought were clearly called the wrong way.
I decided not not to submit them because I just

(26:23):
felt like, you know, we get a more balanced whistle tonight.
It didn't feel that way. A couple examples five A
way to the third. You know, the whole world knows
that Hellburn's got a bad back, and Heart comes up
and shoves him in the back, and it's all over
Twitter right now because a couple of people of a
few people have showed it to me and JB. De

(26:44):
Ros is looking right at it. You can see him.
He's got he's got vision of the play and he
shoves Ty right into the corner and there's no whistle
right in the back, and so that was that was shocking,
you know, and there there are many others. But I
can promise you that we're gonna submit these tonight, New
York and get ready, they'll see him too.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
You know.

Speaker 8 (27:02):
I'm always talking to our guys about not making it
about the officials, but you know, we just we deserve
a fair shot, you know, and it's just it's just
not it's just there's not there's not a consistent balance,
and that's disappointing. Give New York credit for the physicality

(27:22):
that they're playing with, but you know, their their physicality
is rewarded and ours is penalized, just you know, time
after time. And so I'm just really disappointed, just really disappointed.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Ooh, he showed them. And then one more.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I thought the most odd call of the night was
the overturned to double dribble. There's about a minute twenty
to go in the game. It was a six point game,
so it was already an uphill climb, but it would
have given in the end of the basketball back with
a chance to I don't know, maybe going a little run.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
One guy just said he didn't all dribble, but it
looked to me like you know, Tims went out there
and argued and they changed it.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's what it looked like.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
You know.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
So I can only go by what I see, what
I what I saw, and you know that's that's that's
small beans compared to everything else. You know, you know,
small market teams deserve an equal shot. They deserve they
deserve a fair shot, no matter where, no matter where
they're playing.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think we've come to the conclusion tonight that there's
been bad officiating in this game. But I don't know
if anyone's pushing the buttons in Adam Silver's NBA front
office Eddie saying do whatever it takes to get the
New York Knicks in the in the Western or Eastern
Conference finals. Make sure we because if he is, he's
sure failing at it in the West and keeping the

(28:47):
major market teams out in it. The Tea Wolves are
down to Zip and tonight the Mavericks are going to
go down to Zip. And I wouldn't say Denver is
a massive market. Dalla's pretty big, but I mean they're
both bigger than what Minneapolis and Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But he he's.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Out there campaign and he Rick Carlisle is making sure
that his team's getting a fair shake, and he's wise
enough to say, this thing's going crazy all over Twitter.
He knows if he can create some sort of conversation
about anyone getting an edge for any reason, then he's
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And I think, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I don't know if it's gonna work when they finally
play again, what like next Tuesday or whenever the NBA
decides to finally play game three. But Eddie, I do
kind of I appreciate the strategy. I don't see I
think I've changed a bit. I saw it his whining
early in the show. I think it's strategic. I think
he's trying to find a way to get a few
more calls here, and I think it's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, if you're willing to pay the fine, then then
go for it.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
As I said, it seems to me that game one
was more egregious than Game two, but maybe it for
him to add it up over both games and that
was the last straw. But like I said, they got
that two minute report. It's gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Everyone feel better.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
We got this wrong, We had this wrong, with this wrong.
So you know, it's not like he's making this up.
There are there are miss calls.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Here is one more quick on the Pacers side of things.
Here's Tyrese Haliburton on the officiating, but also the understanding
that it wasn't about it wasn't all about bad officiating.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
I mean, that's not my job. I don't really. I mean,
at the end of the day, we got out played.
We were right there to win the game. But I
like consistency, more consistency. Yeah, but let's not pretend like
that's the only reason we lost.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
We just didn't play good enough, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
But at the end of the day, it's too well,
we're going back to Andy, and you know, I like
us in any matchup, so I'm not I'm not I'm
not worried, but yeah, we would like consistency, just you know,
the I don't think he double dribbled. But if you
can overturn that call, why can't you overturn the kickball?
I don't really understand that. But like I said, they
they outplayed us, So let's not pretend like the rest

(30:56):
are the reason we lost. We just got to be better.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Uh, And then what we're seeing is I think the
birth and development of a star in Jalen Brunson. They
were chanting MVP whenever he started the second half.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
This place has been nothing but special for me, so
I appreciate everything they do. It was really cool to hear,
but I just knew I had to get my mind
in the right place to figure out how I was
going to attack the second half.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
It is still kind of wild to think of the
choices that were made in Dallas. Could you imagine if
they would have found a way to keep Jalen Brunton
around and make it We're not Kyrie is pretty awesome,
But if this was the Jalen Brunton that they were
going to get one more on Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Seeing the Knick's legends being there and supporting him.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
Having obviously the next legends around, its special and it's
really cool to see they come out and stress support
and it's not just one game, and they've been to
a lot of games, and they're not just sitting there
drinking and having us on popcorn, and they're up yelling
and screaming it into the game. So it's really cool

(32:05):
to see those guys there. And I'll be definitely appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Kind of Saddy to mentioned Reggie Miller, since that's all
the TV broadcast mentioned all night long. Eddie, before we
put a rap on this segment, put a rap on
the show. You got to feel on the rest of
this series, Big NBA guy, Eddie Garcia, you got to
feel on the rest of this You think Indy bounces back?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Ah, No, I think they'll get one at home. But
in the end, I think the five yeah Nicks went in.
Five Nicks though, as long as Field Bruns is okay,
by the way, I mean, it looked like he was
okay on the second half, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, you only had five in the first half and
what twenty four of his twenty nine in the second half.
But there's a couple of other injuries to keep an
eye for the Knicks two.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think the Knicks are gonna win the series, but
I think it goes five or six.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
When we come back to the tyrack dot Com studios,
I've got eighteen game schedule conversations because the schedule isn't
out yet, and for some reason, people think there is
a conspiracy theory behind and apparently the coin flip heard
through at Las Vegas. We'll dive into it next to
put a wrap on the Ben Mallord Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

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(33:40):
Rack dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. In for Ben Mallard,
It's Chris Plank.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So I said this, I don't know when do we
end up two pages stories notes a few things we
might want to get into on the show. I don't
think I hit hardly any of it. So I'm sorry
Eddie for wasting your time with that email. But i
will say I'm cracking up at the conspiracy theories around

(34:05):
the NFL schedule that basically they had a schedule that
what was it they decided to change at the last
minute because Goodell wanted to put games on Christmas and
they were going to jack up the price for Netflix
to be involved. Here's the rumors, with the league reportedly

(34:27):
selling a separate deal for Christmas games. Boomers Sison WFAM
had a theory that the NFL and Netflix could be
Christmas partners and it could be as much as fifty
to one hundred million dollars for the broadcast rights to
each two of the Christmas Day games. Now, I gotta

(34:50):
be honest with you, Eddie, don't I don't know how
that works out TVDAL wise, nor do I think anyone
cares to go to in depth. I'll be here for
some NFL on Netflix. I'm fine with that, even if
it is on Christmas. Now, I worry about what this
is gonna do schedule wise. If we're putting games on Wednesday.
So not like this is week two of the season.

(35:12):
This is Week sixteen, fifteen fifteen of the NFL season.
Whenever we're talking about Christmas, So are we doing something
gimmicky that's gonna end up affecting the regular season stretcher,
and that's the only thing I'm worried about with this.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I don't think so. I mean, I look, I didn't
play the game. Maybe you know, the guys like LeVar
Arrington would have a better take on this, to be
honest with you, but I don't know. As a fan,
I don't think it's that big of a deal. I mean,
they'll make it work, I would think, right, and it's
a rare occurrence, so yeah, they'll they'll figure it out.
I'm not worried about it.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Meanwhile, is there an eighteen game schedule in the future.
You've heard a lot of different takes on that. I agree.
I think we're getting there. Joe Burrow was asked about
it this week.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
You know, eighteen games is definitely a big as that's
not easy adding that extra game. Obviously it'd be great
for revenue, but I feel like adding that that bye week,
if you're going to have the eighteen games schedule, is
pretty critical for our bodies because if you keep that
first bye week and then you know some teams have
the buy week, five, week six, and then you're going
twelve thirteen games in a row. That's that's not easy.

(36:20):
Probably a Thursday night game thrown in there too.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So that's that's never easy.

Speaker 10 (36:23):
So those two buys are are pretty critical. Maybe you
could do something like the first buys kind of how
we have it now, and the second buy everybody has
it at once, and you make it like the Pro
Bowl week or something like a like an All Star
break for the NBA. I don't know, we'll see how
it plays out.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Whoa I ever thought of that, Joe, But I mean,
I think he's got a fair point that it is
that hits a lot of games. Man. Eighteen. I know
we all love football, we want as much as possible,
but mean the NFL, you know, we take you take
the health of the players seriously, eighteen games. Come on,

(37:00):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Love I love how the NFL preaches the health and
the safety of the players and then does the exact opposite, yeah,
of everything to protect them. And then from the files
of only my team. Terry and Arnold was a guest
on one of the eight billion NFL podcasts that are
out there right now, and here's what he had to

(37:22):
say about the Raiders drafting him.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
They knew that the Raiders, it was the popular that
they took me and Actually, the Raiders coach they called
me after the drive and they were like, you know,
we actually had a coin toss between you and brought
Bowers and man it on him. I was like, oh wow.
And then after the Raiders passed they said, okay, we
got to get up there before Jacksonville. So actually, Brad,
they were trying to trade all the way up fifteen

(37:46):
sixteen to get them. So it's just one of those
things where you go where you wanted and that right there, man,
that fit right.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It was a dream come true for me.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So I think that maybe something got lost in translation here,
because I'm not gonna lie to you. As a diehard
Raiders fan, it wouldn't surprise me to have them deciding
a draft pick on a coin flip. But I feel
like they basically just told him, Hey, buddy, it was
a coin flip between you and brock Bauers, and that's
how it went. Eddie, you're the man. Have a great

(38:16):
rest of your day. Enjoy Jonas Knox.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
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