September 14, 2020 • 36 mins
Doug gives praise to Aaron Rodgers for the Packers dominating win over the Vikings after an offseason where everyone questioned if he was still an elite QB. He also tells you why it's no surprise Cam Newton won his first game as the quarterback of the Patriots.
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to Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio? We are the only show,
the only one, and I listen to all of them
other networks, our network, the only one. Didn't freak out
when Jordan's love was drafted and didn't get on this
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this tray on this train too to overreaction town. What
did you hear about Aaron Rodgers? Well, you know, Pro
Football Focus said he was his town was slipping in it.
The Madden folks rated him like a ninety three, and like,
I don't care about the Madden folks, right, they make
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video games. They put a guy who hasn't played in
the NFL in four years in Colin Kaepernick ahead of
seventeen starting quarterbacks in the National Football League when he
wasn't in the top twenty starting quarterbacks when he was
in the National Football League four years ago. Either he's
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captured some magic pixie dust that's made him a better
quarterback while not playing football for four years, or they
actually don't know what the hell they're talking about, and
their job, which they do very well, is to sell
video games. I know I've bought one and we downloaded
it as well. I don't care about Madden honestly. I
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like the Pro Football Focus guys, but there's an overreaction there.
I talked to people in the NFL and they said
the Jordan Love pick made a ton of sense. What
did we tell you about it? He's a year away
from being a year away. If the worst thing that
happens to Aaron Rodgers is he gets a little ticked off,
guess what. Aaron Rodgers is really good when he's ticked off.
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They were in the NFC Championship game last year, in
his first year with a first year head coach who
had who ran a completely different system than anything Aaron
Rodgers was familiar with. Yes, they had crushed by the
Fortners twice because they couldn't stop the run, which, by
the way, I'm not sure if you watch did you
watch the game yesterday? I'm not talking about the numbers
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that he put up, which were filthy. Did you watch
the game yesterday? How many times that Kirk Cousins throw
the ball in the first half? Ramos? Any idea? Probably
not a lot. Tell you a guess, uh, first half?
I say ten passes? Ten passes? Music? Do you do
you know the answer to this? Or do you want
to hop in? I think I know the answer. I
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believe it was like eight, like seven or eight? Gascon.
Do you want to hop in on this? You're hard
at work with other stuff to say. I'll go nine,
I believe And you can look this up. Kirk Cousins
through five passes in the first Do you know why
getting your worth? No? Do you know what getting the
money's worth? And they watched the tape and they're like,
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you know, the only team to kick the crap out
of the nine out of the Packers last year was
the Niners. And you know what they did and they
had and who's there, who's their coach? Who's their offensive coordinator? Now?
Gary Kubiak. Gary Kubiak was the backup quarterback for Mike
Shanahan for years and he was the first one to
employ Kyle Shanahan it's the same system, and so people
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like freaked out, like, oh my god, I can't believe
what they're doing. Like, no, they watched the tape and
they're like, Okay, that's the way to beat him. Keep
Aaron Rodgers out the field. Run it, run it, run it.
They can't stop the run. And they did a good
enough job stop in the run. And Aaron Rodgers struggled
in the red zone a little bit in the first
three possessions and then figured it out and then the
rest is history. Here's the thing, the Packers, we're right,
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and we were right, and they were right again. Here's
where they were right. One. Aaron Rodgers is still legit.
He's still one of the two or three best quarterbacks
in the game. If you want to say Pat Mahomes
is fine, I'm not gonna argue Pat Mahomes the best
quarterback in the game, but he's right there in any
conversation with Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson, who hasn't even
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been close in a playoff game yet, right, it's it.
It went to the NFC Championship game in the first
year with the guy who was inexperienced and inexperienced wide
receivers around Davante Adams. And when he had Davantae Adams
last year, their offense was dominant. And guess what they
had Davantae Adams yesterday yesterday and their offense was dominant
and Alan Lazard, Mark Marquez, Valda Scantling. Turns out they
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can actually play, maybe they can evaluate play, and you
know why they drafted Jordan's love. Did you watch Drew
Brees play? Did you watch Tom Brady play? You know
two things are undefeated, one his father time. The other
one Daniel House found out about down in the bubble. Okay,
Aaron Rodgers now he isn't done, he ain't close. And
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the last dude you want to tick off is Aaron
Rodgers because that guy can play. And it wasn't just
that he can play. Play within himself. Then the offense,
I'm I I understand that Neil Hunter didn't play is
the best pass rusher for the Vikings. That changes everything.
I know that that the cap issues that have there's
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cap issues and age issues and reason they turned over
their defensive backfield. I get it. I'm not sure Minnesota
is nearly as good defensively as they've been I don't care.
I was told Aaron Rodgers skills are starting to fade.
Then I watched Ester, like, you know what, He's as
good as anybody I've seen play the position, which is
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what I said about him in his prime, and I
said about him last year, and I'll tell you about
him now. And if an ancillary benefit of drafting a
potential quarterback in the future, And again, worst case scenario
for Jordan's Love is he can't play and Aaron Rodgers
plays really well and they trade Jordan's Love for another
first round pick because nobody knows that he can't play
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and played in preseason game right a couple of years. Oh,
he's trained under Aaron Rodgers. Let's just get it for
another first round pick or even second round pick. Fine,
no sweat out there back and oh yeah, by the way,
it stands to motivate stands to motivate Rodgers. If if
you think he can't play, or you think his skills
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started to fade, bro, you should did you watch? Don't
give me box scores. And I'm not I'm not trying
to demean Russell Wilson was great, not trying to mean
Lamar Jackson, but he makes the old Aaron Rodgers throw
a guy open in the right side of the end zone.
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The Valdes scant link throw, which was a touchdown, was
one of those dropping the buckets right. You're like, you
put a big trash can in the corner of the
end zone thirty five yards away, and you drop back
and you throw it, and there's like five guys on
earth that can get it into the trash can whenever
they want. He's one of them. He looked mobile and agile.
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You already know he's tough. He can make every throw.
There's no arm strength issues. I mean, he's thirty two
of forty four four touchdowns, no interceptions. You tell me,
you know, you tell me. And there's none of these
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screen passes. You know, what do they do? What do
they shuffle passes that are considered passes that the guy
takes thirty five yards to the house. You're like, oh, yeah,
that's not a He does the old fashioned way, drafts
back down Davante Adams fourteen times through him, seventeen times
for a hundred fifty six yards. He's amazing. He's amazing.
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And by the way, like the dome does in fact help.
You don't have elements. That's why the old guys want
to play in good weather, playing a dome. And the
Packers aren't dopes for believing in their talent. They're not
dopes for drafting A. J. Dillon. They're not dopes from
getting a replacement quarterback for three or four years from now,
because that's about the age when guys start to fail.
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That's what happened with Brady and Breeze, and that's what
that's gonna happen with all of them. Everybody has an
expiration date, but I would just point out Aaron Rodgers
expiration date is not next week, it's not this year,
It's probably not next year. You know what Aaron Rodgers is.
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Do you ever buying at the store uncooked right, and
you put in your fridge and you look at the date, like, man,
it's been sitting in there a couple of days, and
you you're like, he should I open this up? Because
you assume that it's gone bad. There's nothing worse than
you open the package like, oh, oh, I guess I
gotta go back to the store if I want to
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cook dinner. Aaron Rodgers is the package of meat. And
everybody's like, man, I think that went bad and you
open it up like, nope, still good, throw it on.
He was every bit as sharp, every bit as talented,
have every bit of the arm and foot talent that
he's ever had, and you don't get dumber over time.
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He doesn't turn it over, and he scores a lot
of points. And against the division rival, granted one depleted
by major injury to arguably the best defensive player. I'm
gonna give you all that, he was as good as
he has ever been and maybe even better. Maybe those
other guys have actually improved. Maybe Alan Lazard, Marquess Ganton
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Valda Scantling are actually getting better. Huh shocker. There be
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Doug Olive Show Fox Sports Radio. Watch Patriots play yesterday
against the Miami Dolphins. They got to win. Ryan Fitzpatrick
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made some plays to make it close and then made
a bone headed throat to essentially seal the deal for
the Patriots. And it's always fascinating to me what what
we do here? You know, we we make the sense
that well, it has to be one or the other.
Either it was Brady or it was Belichick. It couldn't
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possibly be Brady and Belichick, right, We don't do that
with Gregg Popovitch Dewey. Was it him Duncan? Or was
the great Pop? No one's ever done it without players,
and no players have ever done it without great coaching,
have they not that I'm aware of. So when I
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watched yesterday, I was I was impressed, but I was
also reasonable about it. As as good as as competent
as Cam Newton looked, he threw the football nineteen times
for a hundred and fifty five yards. Everything was dinking,
dunk over the middle. Julian Edelman, his leading wide receiver,
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five catches fifty seven yards. Nikkil Harry, who had essentially
been left out in the dust by Tom Brady, had
five catches. I think he almost had like four in
a row for thirty nine yards. James White three catches
out of the backfield. Um the the only time he
threw the ball, and the the the longest step was
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um Ryanzzo, the tight end, who had a twenty five
yard catch. That was it. So here's the thing I'm
not gonna tell you that that Cam Newton was a
one hit wonder, but we do know they played the Dolphins,
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the Dolphins of the world's best five win team last year,
like the Dolphins were surprisingly not a train wreck by
the end of the year. That that's really what happened.
Go back and look last year. At the start of
the year, they were totally confused by what Baltimore did,
and Baltimore came in and it was an embarrassment. Then
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they go out to Dallas and the exact same thing happened.
We had real conversations, real conversations. Was smart not me?
Smart football people who said that might be the worst
football team of all time? Now it was just last year,
like mother thanking for Toua. Turns out they didn't have
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to tank that bad for Tuah. They did, in fact
get to uh he'll eventually be their quarterback. But they're
like in year two of a complete gut redo. The
Patriots won the division last year and what have had
home feel advantage throughout had they been on it will
beat the lowly Miami Dolphins at the end of the season.
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So I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, hey,
Cam Newton stinks. You can't play. I'm not that guy.
But the questions about Cam Newton really really simple. This
is an NFL GM told me. He's like, look, man,
I don't care about the suits, about the panash, the
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person like stuff doesn't matter. Guys like him, you know,
young guys grew up watching and play. Older guys know.
He's a tough embre and he's been in some big games.
He has some flaws, absolutely, but he can win a
lot of football games. The problem everyone had who I
talked to in the NFL was I don't know how
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well he throws the football and if he can stay healthy.
The question wasn't if he was healthy. He hadn't played footbll,
he barely played football in the last two years. Of
course he's healthy, and that's what those videos showed you.
The question isn't can he throw a football? Can you
throw a football well accurately down the field? Well, you
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don't know. And the Dolphins shures, hell, we're going to
try and make him prove it because they're just not
good enough. It's hard to play against the team that's
playing eleven on eleven football, that has a running quarterback.
It's hard to play against the Patriots, because hey, guess what,
that guy is just about the best coach we've ever
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had in the sport. And part of it is his
coaching philosophy, which is like, yeah, look, this is building Listen,
this is Bill Belichick. And the difference in building offenses
for Cam and Tom Brady. We always try to do
what's best for the team to win. And you know,
everything we've done for the last twenty years, and rightfully
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so has been for Tom Brady was for Tom Brady. Um.
Everything was dedicated to him, other than the games that
he didn't play in, like um, you know when Castle
played Um or Jimmy and then Jacobe Um when Brady
was suspended. So you know, there were times when we
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we had to plan differently. But you know, when you
you're starting quarterback has uh things that he's good at
are things that you can take advantage of them. I
think he tried to take advantage of right, don't be
so setting in a system. That's the stupidity of people.
Is a system with Cobody was a system quarterback. The
system was, Hey, let's try and win this game. Everybody's
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a system back. If that's the system, they are pragmatists.
What does it take to win this game with this quarterback,
with whoever is healthy this week? How do we do that?
They are pragmatic, right, pragmatists. And as soon as we
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wrap our heads around that, as soon as we figure
that out and understand that's an absolute gift and absolute skill,
and we take a breath and say, they're playing against
the Dolphins, who aren't good. I know Peter King picked
them to go to the super Bowl, but they're not good.
Right At some point to a is going to play.
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We just don't know when that point is because you're
worried about two is leg falling off. Right, if they were,
if they were good, if they were set, guess what
they wouldn't have done. They wouldn't have drafted to a
tongue of ioloa. If they were good, they were set,
they wouldn't have gone out and overpaid for free agents.
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So they're building. They have a nice draft, but those
rookies hadn't ever played in a preseason game. Now they
go into New England and take on the Patriots, who
all they do is they're they're the their dj Khalin
dj Kalin wishes he could win as much as the
Patriots win, especially in Foxborough. I'm not sure what people expected.
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I did think the Dolphins would keep it closer, and truthfully,
and Ryan Fitzpatrick not throwing a late pick, it would
have been closer. But the least surprising thing ever, is
Bill Belichick doing whatever it took to win a game
against the team that beat him last year, and it
ticked him off the entire off season. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show
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weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. All right, let's
let's check in with my mom and Brandon Chrystal. I
got a guy in Denver you want to get ready
for Monday night football? Who's better than my boy? B
K of course, uh works in Denver's Broncos. Inside he
joins in the Doug Gotlin Show on Fox Sports Radio
Courtland Sutton. What's his status? So I hate to be
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that guy in this case, but he's still a true
game time decision. Oh stop it, you know if he's
playing or not. No, I've actually been checking with people
within within the last few minutes because the Bronco has
made a couple of practice squad moves. But by league
rule this year, that doesn't mean they're necessarily going to
be active in either of my receivers. Doesn't matter because
they have seven receivers on the roster. Those are both
defensive moves. Obviously one to fill in for Vaughan Miller
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sort of, at least as a body. We can get
to that in a little bit. But big Fanjo did
say on Saturday that he's gonna give Cortland one of
the most primitive tests in football. If he can do
ten jumping jack's with a sprained shoulder, then he can play.
And I don't know how seriously vic knowing that's part
of it. Wait, he's really going to make a new
jumping Jack's. I guess we'll find out. And I talked
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to both players and people inside the building. I want
video of the jumping jack's, Brandon I want. Normally i'd
be able to probably get if they were in public.
This year, we're gonna be so relegated to our little
plastic bubbles up in the press box that the only
people will be down There will be a couple of
photographers in our sideline reporter. But I'll see if I
can get on her. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
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hold on Okay, so listen, I want you, guys. I
want to explain who Brandon Chrystal is. Okay, Brand's my
friend for seven so in six we meet in the spring. Okay, Okay,
we've been friends. Okay. There have been events where I've
literally had to call the very very top of CBS
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or ESPN or Fox to get me into right, and
I couldn't get in and I needed to. I need
to find a way or know somebody or whatever. And
I'm actually working for CBS at the time, and I
couldn't get into like a green room. Right. I get
there and I walk in and there's like I've never forget. Um.
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We're at the hard Rock in Dallas for the Final
four and I'm talking with Tony Romo and there's Charles
Barkley walking by and Jim nance Hello friends, and then
and then there's Brandon. Okay. So, if there's one human
being on earth who can break out of your proverbial
media bubble, it's you. Don't give me this. I'm stuck
in the press box. You get your ass down the field,
and you get me a photo or a video evidence
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of the actual jumping backs. You hear copeche all Right,
I'll do my best. And so I'm gonna say, now,
this is never seen that and this is usually those
are in social settings that don't affect my employment. This
would be one where you don't necessarily want to cross
the NFL's look the NFL A series, they do not
they do not mess around. I was doing I did sideline,
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as you know, for a Fox game one time, and
I was so excited. I'm like standing on that you know,
there's that little dotted line, and a security guard comes
up to me and he's like, uh, mr, golly, you
have to get behind that line. It's like okay. And
then I was like, you know, I'm watching the game
and then I hear tapping the shoulder in there, some
guy with a walkie talking to your piece and he's like,
New York just called and said, if you step over
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that line one more time, you're being escorted. I was like,
I'm calling the game, like they don't care anyway. That's
gonna be related to basketball coaches, who there's that kind
of imaginary box, but coaches kind of stand beyond that
play and then with safety protocols. As he heard, Dan
Buyer mentioned Troy Vincent's memo to the league. Yeah, they're
they're not fooling around. Uh. Nonetheless, with Courtland, I think
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he really is a true game time decision. Some coaches,
UH and personnel people that I've reached out to over
the last few days going back to when it happened,
and a couple of players think that if he can
take a shot and and can have a full enough
range of motion, he's going to try to give it
a go, because that's the kind of player he is.
Brandon christologians how much does losing Von Miller heard him
a lot? But I don't know if it's a difference
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between what their end result for the season would be
or not, because I'm not sure they're a super Bowl team.
I do think they're a playoff contender, and with that
extra playoff spot they're helped by the offense is going
to be a big key to their success in terms of,
you know, what they can really do, because the defense
is already gonna be really good with or without von
or with or without a healthy Bradley Chubb, assuming once
of those guys was there, like last year where they
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were still pretty good because the offense couldn't pick him
up enough until Drew lock got gave him a shot
in the arm late. So it looks it hurts to
lose maybe the best dage pass rusher and football, certainly
one of them, and the best player on the team.
I know, Justin Simmons, the second team All Pro. We
talked about Courtland Sutton, how good he is. And they've
got some Pro Bowl kind of running backs with Melton
Gordon and Philip Lindsay and Bradley Chub may get there,
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but he's not there yet. Von Miller is there. I
know he had a bit of a down year. He
had the best offseason he's had, and so to lose
him as a as a thirty one year old looking
to not only sement his legacy which is maybe in
some ways cemented, but probably work on a contract extension
and finish his career here because he does have one
more year less next year. Now he's gonna make him
seventeen million coming off that injury, unless he can sneak
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on to the roster at the end of the year
back on because of the i R rules where there's
no no limit like there normally is. It's a it's
a big loss, but I don't know it's one that
that will completely wreck their season because they did trade
for Drell Case. He's gone five straight Pro Bowls. Job
is coming back. They've got two good safeties, and Dick
Fangio's a hell of a defensive coach. He is Um, okay,
a bunch of other stuff I want to get to.
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You mentioned Drew lock. Um. The rest of the league
was kind of like, you know, he's fine. We know
he's talented, he's athletic. Um, he's young. He did get
some experienced last year. Um, you get a tightest team,
which very good, and then then they got to go
to Pittsburgh before they go to Tampa. So it gets
real in a hurry. What are returns on Drew lock
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in terms of the difference year one to year two? Well,
the kids losing with confidence from the second that I
met him last year the Senior Bowl and the Broncos
draft him, and I think it was unfortunately for him
a little out of character that he had to kind
of just wait in the wings, which he was fine with,
and then he gets hurt in preseason, so he's able
to kind of just sit and learn from Joe Flacco.
But he's a guy that used to be in the
guy he was. He went only the best high school
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football player in Kansas City, he was also that best
high school basketball player in Kansas City, and big time
D one programs ou in places like that where recruiting
him to come hoop. So this is the dude that's
used to walking into the room and being the man,
and he exuded that. But because he won four of
his five games, his teammates buy in and then you
see the athleticism and that you haven't seen around here
at that position since maybe Jake the Snake or or
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his boss John Elway were rolling out and thrown across
the body or flipping it as Pat Shermer likes to
call it the six d R check down. Uh. And
he can make all the throws now, as you Patrick
mahomes noe. But is he in that group below them
in terms of terms of arts arm talent but at
the top of the league. I think he might be.
And and he's not shaken very easily. So I think
that there's real optimism, like your pal Colin has. Is
he going to be the league m P. I'm not
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ready to say that, but I think that that he could.
He could end up being the guy and we won't
have to talk about John Elway not being able to
find quarterbacks for Mike Rabel got on the plane yesterday.
He had a mask on that said, give give Derrick
Henry the football. We we there's a lot of things
we don't know about NFL teams. We know what Tennessee
is wants to do tonight. How does Denver match up
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with them? Well, last year they messed up pretty well. Now,
they did have Von Miller, but they didn't have Bradley Chubb,
and they didn't have Drill Casey that time. But the
Broncos help him to eight yards on fifteen carries. I
get that that was Marcus Marrio is the last game,
and so Titan fans and a lot of ways can
thank the Broncos for getting Rable and company to pull
the trigger and make that move to to switch to Tannehill,
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which opened up their offense a little bit. But they
had a scheme last year that figured out how to
stop Derrick Henry. So I guess the question is, has
Arthur Smith, who by the way, is the richest assistant
coach and in uh in the NFL because his dad
owns a little company called FedEx, have they come up
with a new way to get Derrick Henry uh past
that Broncos defense because they couldn't do it last year,
or will the Broncos be able to duplicate it? So
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I'm not saying the Broncos are gonna keep him in
the twenty eight yards. That seems unrealistic. But maybe he
doesn't run for a buck fifty. I just want to
point out that his dad may be worth a bunch
of money, but he ain't right that when when your
dad is a bunch of money, I've heard all these
dads you said like I'm rich, You're You're not. You're kids.
So there's that you're not last thing, most important thing.
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Brandon Crystal Broncos in our Joinius Doug Gotlin show, Fox
Sports Radio, When is Kansas gonna go Division one in football? Uh? Well?
As funny as they opted out and those are just
a bunch of students that I think we're team. They
were able to get them together. You're in a row
Coastal Carolina shown to Clears come to Lawrence and have
their way with with the Jayhawks less Milan and may
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want to think about retiring again or stepping away. That
was pretty rough. But hey, basketball season we think is
right around the corner, Dug, and if they let us play,
whether it be COVID or otherwise, I think will be okay. Um,
the Nugget thing is like it it went under the
radar because it was against the NFL, But I mean
it's kind of remarkable. It shouldn't be surprising the team
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that plays an altitude is better than the second half.
But they've done this, They've gotten down big and coming
back against the Clippers. I think the pressures on the
Clippers tomorrow it kind of has to be. And that's
the way the Nuggets of Roses last few games, I
don't think so much. As they were down three one
Agasto Jazz. There was pressure there certainly that they put
on themselves. But the Clippers are supposed to be the
team maybe winning the championship. The nug It's win their
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second game and the Clippers odds went up to win
the championship, So I'm not sure exactly how that shakes out.
But uh, you know, I had our palstar Charles on
with me on k O S and in a couple
of weeks ago, right at the game one, he's like,
this is a terrible matchup. There's no way that the Nuggets.
I don't think they'll win a game, and I kind
of agree with them. And now they don't have any
of the pressure. And that's what the joker said yesterday
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after the game, was because we're just playing loose. There's
not none the pressures on us. So I think, yeah,
I'll even more on the Clippers. Doesn't mean the Nuggets
are gonna win, but they've proven they can win these
last two games. So you get to a game seven, Doug,
you know, anything can happen, Anything can happen. Great stuff,
b K. Enjoy the game tonight from your bubble. I
expect to see some video of those jumping jacks. We'll
talk to you very soon. Thanks, buddy, great talking to.
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Herd talking about Bruce arians criticism of Tom Brady. I
probably was at times. I shouldn't have Uh. It should
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have been a one on one conversation. It's hard. I mean,
any time you call out one of your players publicly,
especially a quarterback with their egos, you're gonna call some
tension there. And I think it's tension that you don't
really need reporters asking questions, you know, right off the cuff.
You want to give them the right answer. A lot
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of times you shouldn't give him the right answer. Belichick's
got it best, you know, owned a Cincinnati and so
I don't think it's good to publicly criticize your quarterback.
I think it depends on the guy, and Brady has
been able to take in the past. Will see if
he can take it from a guy who they don't
have great equity with each other, right Like Bruce Arians
has been the quarterback whisper, a quarterback guru for a
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long time. But this was supposed to be fun, and
it's not fun, you know, being being pointed out to
him not had a good game. On the other hand,
like Tom Brady's not an idiot. He doesn't think he
played well, So I don't know how they'll take it.
Look for most of my friends. I'll give you an example.
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I have a great working relationship with my boss is here,
one of whom I've worked I worked with previously a
different place. He sent me a note on Friday I
was doing the show, and I was like, man, that's
great feedback. One, it proved to me he's listening. He's
paying attention, which is a big thing in our business, Like,
I know you have a job, but I'd love for
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you to listen. And two he was right. He was right.
So as long as he's paying attention, and if he's
right and I know that I'm better that I played,
I don't really see that big an issue as long
as you don't make it personal, and as long as
as as I also get praise when I play really well,
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which I do think is one of the things that
allow Bruce arians to elevate himself as a coach in
comparison to where Bill Belichick would leave it. Um I
got one more piece of audio for you. This was
Nick right on first things first, talking about the Cowboys
lost of the Rams. Cowboys fans were so certain everything
was gonna be better now that Jason Garrett's going, you're
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running draw plays on third and six and you're taking
time outs home with you. It's same old story. And
I don't know how with this offense, Mike, you score
three second half points. I don't know how that happened.
I do. Dak Prescott has limitations. He was a fourth
round pick for a reason. The Cowboys wanted to pay
him a lot of money, but didn't want to make
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him the highest paid quarterback for a reason. And and
we've all said this about Dak Prescott. There's an Raymond
Green aspect to him, right. He's really good with the Cowboys,
but you put him on another team and he's fine. Right.
You wouldn't rather have him than Lamar. You'd rather have Lamar.
You would rather have him than Aaron Rodgers and Pat
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mahomes Um. You know, I don't know if you'd rather
have Kirk cousins than having him. There's a lot of
Kirk cousins to him. I think that's about that's a
that's about an accurate He's a better run than Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins is a more accurate thrower. Other than that,
they're about the same guy. And I think that's one
of the things that limits them is we have this
(31:37):
thing about about Dak Prescott Will. We can't adjust our
expectations of him as a player because our expectations of
the Dallas Cowboys are completely through the roof double clutch
on me. There can I talk uniforms for a second? Okay,
(32:02):
Rama's when the Rams new logo first came out, we
all made fun of it, correct I Yeah, they yes,
Rams uniforms in the uniform display. I don't know what
you thought, But when you saw them last night, what
do you think? I thought they were fine? I wasn't.
I think the classics are better, but they weren't as
bad as people made them out to be. And that's
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a bit of a backhanded compliment. But they're not as
ugly as at first. Um Ryan Music, Yeah, like, listen,
you look a lot better than you did in that picture.
How about was the picture? It doesn't matter, um Music?
Where are you on the Rams uniforms? I like them?
I think I do agree with John. I think, um,
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there were other styles that they had previously that I
probably liked a little better. But I do like them.
And for what it's worth, my fiance really liked them,
very nice. She was a big fan. She's like, I
like what the Rams are wearing, Kim, I like that.
I like that the pants like Saints episode well in
the middle the shows out there. But of the the
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Saints pants, she thought they were leggings. I go, no,
those would be black pants with high black socks, but
very close. Um, I really like them. I really like
the helmets. I feel like it's a this is two
thousand twenty and I you know, I like the Rams
classic ones, but I could use the Rams classic ones
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once a year. These ones look like like look uniforms
can change, it evolve, and these are these are good ones.
There have been some other ones that they've had. I
really didn't like the Navy ones that they had in St.
Louis with the gold pants, and that did not like
those at all. Um, I'll tell you so those look
better on TV than they didn't presentation. I think the
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opposite of the Chargers yellow pants. Now, if you see
the Chargers, Like if you follow him on Instagram or
you watch them up close, you're like, man, those are
really cool. But then watch him on TV and I
think whether the lightning bolt is too small or whether
the yellow is just too bright. It doesn't it doesn't
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translate as well on your TV set as as like
the Rams one did, and so the two out Whereas
again when they were released, I was like, man, freaking out.
These are awesome because their odes to the old AFL ones.
That's really the only kind of uniforms of note, right,
everybody else went with their classic ones. Is that about right? Well?
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I mean you technically you had the debut of the
new Falcons ones. Yeah, I didn't like that. I don't
like those a t L. Yeah, I don't know whatever
they're okay. I feel like it was a weird. That
was a weird because that's like the first day game
I remember watching there where the sun was shining through.
There was something weird there in terms of how that
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field looked, whereas last night the in so far like
that was a clearly that the lighting everything and at
night and being in the dome like it was made
for that TV setting. I thought the Rams of the
better uniforms of the two. And that's what the classic
Dallas Cowboys, yes from Must You Wanna Talk? And the
Washington team uniforms were interesting. They were like really like
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a odd read, right, that weren't the normal read that
they had last year or the years before or what
it was? Kind of is it? It looked odd to me?
I don't know. Maybe the number of the helmet didn't
really help either, and was so bad to start. Oh gosh,
they were terrible first half of the game. They were terrible,
terrible anyway, The charges were they have a number of
their helmet too, Is that normal? The number of uh special? Okay,
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I know, I thought that's what the old NFL ones
used to have. Oh well, okay, but they didn't have
that last year. Um no, but they've done away with
those those awful like navy with gold like that was
that was a great look. That wasn't It wasn't a
great look anyway. I mean, I do like the classics.
Jaguars had some kind of different uniforms coming up next.
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Browns had different uniforms. But guess what sat Brown's Baker Mayfield.
The Browns really struggled yesterday. I'll tell you why Baker
and Dak Prescott have a lot in common. This Doug
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to Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio? We are the only show,
the only one, and I listen to all of them
other networks, our network, the only one. Didn't freak out
when Jordan's love was drafted and didn't get on this
(00:47):
this tray on this train too to overreaction town. What
did you hear about Aaron Rodgers? Well, you know, Pro
Football Focus said he was his town was slipping in it.
The Madden folks rated him like a ninety three, and like,
I don't care about the Madden folks, right, they make
(01:10):
video games. They put a guy who hasn't played in
the NFL in four years in Colin Kaepernick ahead of
seventeen starting quarterbacks in the National Football League when he
wasn't in the top twenty starting quarterbacks when he was
in the National Football League four years ago. Either he's
(01:30):
captured some magic pixie dust that's made him a better
quarterback while not playing football for four years, or they
actually don't know what the hell they're talking about, and
their job, which they do very well, is to sell
video games. I know I've bought one and we downloaded
it as well. I don't care about Madden honestly. I
(01:53):
like the Pro Football Focus guys, but there's an overreaction there.
I talked to people in the NFL and they said
the Jordan Love pick made a ton of sense. What
did we tell you about it? He's a year away
from being a year away. If the worst thing that
happens to Aaron Rodgers is he gets a little ticked off,
guess what. Aaron Rodgers is really good when he's ticked off.
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They were in the NFC Championship game last year, in
his first year with a first year head coach who
had who ran a completely different system than anything Aaron
Rodgers was familiar with. Yes, they had crushed by the
Fortners twice because they couldn't stop the run, which, by
the way, I'm not sure if you watch did you
watch the game yesterday? I'm not talking about the numbers
(02:40):
that he put up, which were filthy. Did you watch
the game yesterday? How many times that Kirk Cousins throw
the ball in the first half? Ramos? Any idea? Probably
not a lot. Tell you a guess, uh, first half?
I say ten passes? Ten passes? Music? Do you do
you know the answer to this? Or do you want
to hop in? I think I know the answer. I
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believe it was like eight, like seven or eight? Gascon.
Do you want to hop in on this? You're hard
at work with other stuff to say. I'll go nine,
I believe And you can look this up. Kirk Cousins
through five passes in the first Do you know why
getting your worth? No? Do you know what getting the
money's worth? And they watched the tape and they're like,
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you know, the only team to kick the crap out
of the nine out of the Packers last year was
the Niners. And you know what they did and they
had and who's there, who's their coach? Who's their offensive coordinator? Now?
Gary Kubiak. Gary Kubiak was the backup quarterback for Mike
Shanahan for years and he was the first one to
employ Kyle Shanahan it's the same system, and so people
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like freaked out, like, oh my god, I can't believe
what they're doing. Like, no, they watched the tape and
they're like, Okay, that's the way to beat him. Keep
Aaron Rodgers out the field. Run it, run it, run it.
They can't stop the run. And they did a good
enough job stop in the run. And Aaron Rodgers struggled
in the red zone a little bit in the first
three possessions and then figured it out and then the
rest is history. Here's the thing, the Packers, we're right,
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and we were right, and they were right again. Here's
where they were right. One. Aaron Rodgers is still legit.
He's still one of the two or three best quarterbacks
in the game. If you want to say Pat Mahomes
is fine, I'm not gonna argue Pat Mahomes the best
quarterback in the game, but he's right there in any
conversation with Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson, who hasn't even
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been close in a playoff game yet, right, it's it.
It went to the NFC Championship game in the first
year with the guy who was inexperienced and inexperienced wide
receivers around Davante Adams. And when he had Davantae Adams
last year, their offense was dominant. And guess what they
had Davantae Adams yesterday yesterday and their offense was dominant
and Alan Lazard, Mark Marquez, Valda Scantling. Turns out they
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can actually play, maybe they can evaluate play, and you
know why they drafted Jordan's love. Did you watch Drew
Brees play? Did you watch Tom Brady play? You know
two things are undefeated, one his father time. The other
one Daniel House found out about down in the bubble. Okay,
Aaron Rodgers now he isn't done, he ain't close. And
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the last dude you want to tick off is Aaron
Rodgers because that guy can play. And it wasn't just
that he can play. Play within himself. Then the offense,
I'm I I understand that Neil Hunter didn't play is
the best pass rusher for the Vikings. That changes everything.
I know that that the cap issues that have there's
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cap issues and age issues and reason they turned over
their defensive backfield. I get it. I'm not sure Minnesota
is nearly as good defensively as they've been I don't care.
I was told Aaron Rodgers skills are starting to fade.
Then I watched Ester, like, you know what, He's as
good as anybody I've seen play the position, which is
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what I said about him in his prime, and I
said about him last year, and I'll tell you about
him now. And if an ancillary benefit of drafting a
potential quarterback in the future, And again, worst case scenario
for Jordan's Love is he can't play and Aaron Rodgers
plays really well and they trade Jordan's Love for another
first round pick because nobody knows that he can't play
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and played in preseason game right a couple of years. Oh,
he's trained under Aaron Rodgers. Let's just get it for
another first round pick or even second round pick. Fine,
no sweat out there back and oh yeah, by the way,
it stands to motivate stands to motivate Rodgers. If if
you think he can't play, or you think his skills
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started to fade, bro, you should did you watch? Don't
give me box scores. And I'm not I'm not trying
to demean Russell Wilson was great, not trying to mean
Lamar Jackson, but he makes the old Aaron Rodgers throw
a guy open in the right side of the end zone.
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The Valdes scant link throw, which was a touchdown, was
one of those dropping the buckets right. You're like, you
put a big trash can in the corner of the
end zone thirty five yards away, and you drop back
and you throw it, and there's like five guys on
earth that can get it into the trash can whenever
they want. He's one of them. He looked mobile and agile.
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You already know he's tough. He can make every throw.
There's no arm strength issues. I mean, he's thirty two
of forty four four touchdowns, no interceptions. You tell me,
you know, you tell me. And there's none of these
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screen passes. You know, what do they do? What do
they shuffle passes that are considered passes that the guy
takes thirty five yards to the house. You're like, oh, yeah,
that's not a He does the old fashioned way, drafts
back down Davante Adams fourteen times through him, seventeen times
for a hundred fifty six yards. He's amazing. He's amazing.
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And by the way, like the dome does in fact help.
You don't have elements. That's why the old guys want
to play in good weather, playing a dome. And the
Packers aren't dopes for believing in their talent. They're not
dopes for drafting A. J. Dillon. They're not dopes from
getting a replacement quarterback for three or four years from now,
because that's about the age when guys start to fail.
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That's what happened with Brady and Breeze, and that's what
that's gonna happen with all of them. Everybody has an
expiration date, but I would just point out Aaron Rodgers
expiration date is not next week, it's not this year,
It's probably not next year. You know what Aaron Rodgers is.
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Do you ever buying at the store uncooked right, and
you put in your fridge and you look at the date, like, man,
it's been sitting in there a couple of days, and
you you're like, he should I open this up? Because
you assume that it's gone bad. There's nothing worse than
you open the package like, oh, oh, I guess I
gotta go back to the store if I want to
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cook dinner. Aaron Rodgers is the package of meat. And
everybody's like, man, I think that went bad and you
open it up like, nope, still good, throw it on.
He was every bit as sharp, every bit as talented,
have every bit of the arm and foot talent that
he's ever had, and you don't get dumber over time.
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He doesn't turn it over, and he scores a lot
of points. And against the division rival, granted one depleted
by major injury to arguably the best defensive player. I'm
gonna give you all that, he was as good as
he has ever been and maybe even better. Maybe those
other guys have actually improved. Maybe Alan Lazard, Marquess Ganton
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Valda Scantling are actually getting better. Huh shocker. There be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
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Doug Olive Show Fox Sports Radio. Watch Patriots play yesterday
against the Miami Dolphins. They got to win. Ryan Fitzpatrick
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made some plays to make it close and then made
a bone headed throat to essentially seal the deal for
the Patriots. And it's always fascinating to me what what
we do here? You know, we we make the sense
that well, it has to be one or the other.
Either it was Brady or it was Belichick. It couldn't
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possibly be Brady and Belichick, right, We don't do that
with Gregg Popovitch Dewey. Was it him Duncan? Or was
the great Pop? No one's ever done it without players,
and no players have ever done it without great coaching,
have they not that I'm aware of. So when I
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watched yesterday, I was I was impressed, but I was
also reasonable about it. As as good as as competent
as Cam Newton looked, he threw the football nineteen times
for a hundred and fifty five yards. Everything was dinking,
dunk over the middle. Julian Edelman, his leading wide receiver,
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five catches fifty seven yards. Nikkil Harry, who had essentially
been left out in the dust by Tom Brady, had
five catches. I think he almost had like four in
a row for thirty nine yards. James White three catches
out of the backfield. Um the the only time he
threw the ball, and the the the longest step was
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um Ryanzzo, the tight end, who had a twenty five
yard catch. That was it. So here's the thing I'm
not gonna tell you that that Cam Newton was a
one hit wonder, but we do know they played the Dolphins,
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the Dolphins of the world's best five win team last year,
like the Dolphins were surprisingly not a train wreck by
the end of the year. That that's really what happened.
Go back and look last year. At the start of
the year, they were totally confused by what Baltimore did,
and Baltimore came in and it was an embarrassment. Then
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they go out to Dallas and the exact same thing happened.
We had real conversations, real conversations. Was smart not me?
Smart football people who said that might be the worst
football team of all time? Now it was just last year,
like mother thanking for Toua. Turns out they didn't have
(13:03):
to tank that bad for Tuah. They did, in fact
get to uh he'll eventually be their quarterback. But they're
like in year two of a complete gut redo. The
Patriots won the division last year and what have had
home feel advantage throughout had they been on it will
beat the lowly Miami Dolphins at the end of the season.
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So I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, hey,
Cam Newton stinks. You can't play. I'm not that guy.
But the questions about Cam Newton really really simple. This
is an NFL GM told me. He's like, look, man,
I don't care about the suits, about the panash, the
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person like stuff doesn't matter. Guys like him, you know,
young guys grew up watching and play. Older guys know.
He's a tough embre and he's been in some big games.
He has some flaws, absolutely, but he can win a
lot of football games. The problem everyone had who I
talked to in the NFL was I don't know how
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well he throws the football and if he can stay healthy.
The question wasn't if he was healthy. He hadn't played footbll,
he barely played football in the last two years. Of
course he's healthy, and that's what those videos showed you.
The question isn't can he throw a football? Can you
throw a football well accurately down the field? Well, you
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don't know. And the Dolphins shures, hell, we're going to
try and make him prove it because they're just not
good enough. It's hard to play against the team that's
playing eleven on eleven football, that has a running quarterback.
It's hard to play against the Patriots, because hey, guess what,
that guy is just about the best coach we've ever
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had in the sport. And part of it is his
coaching philosophy, which is like, yeah, look, this is building Listen,
this is Bill Belichick. And the difference in building offenses
for Cam and Tom Brady. We always try to do
what's best for the team to win. And you know,
everything we've done for the last twenty years, and rightfully
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so has been for Tom Brady was for Tom Brady. Um.
Everything was dedicated to him, other than the games that
he didn't play in, like um, you know when Castle
played Um or Jimmy and then Jacobe Um when Brady
was suspended. So you know, there were times when we
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we had to plan differently. But you know, when you
you're starting quarterback has uh things that he's good at
are things that you can take advantage of them. I
think he tried to take advantage of right, don't be
so setting in a system. That's the stupidity of people.
Is a system with Cobody was a system quarterback. The
system was, Hey, let's try and win this game. Everybody's
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a system back. If that's the system, they are pragmatists.
What does it take to win this game with this quarterback,
with whoever is healthy this week? How do we do that?
They are pragmatic, right, pragmatists. And as soon as we
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wrap our heads around that, as soon as we figure
that out and understand that's an absolute gift and absolute skill,
and we take a breath and say, they're playing against
the Dolphins, who aren't good. I know Peter King picked
them to go to the super Bowl, but they're not good.
Right At some point to a is going to play.
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We just don't know when that point is because you're
worried about two is leg falling off. Right, if they were,
if they were good, if they were set, guess what
they wouldn't have done. They wouldn't have drafted to a
tongue of ioloa. If they were good, they were set,
they wouldn't have gone out and overpaid for free agents.
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So they're building. They have a nice draft, but those
rookies hadn't ever played in a preseason game. Now they
go into New England and take on the Patriots, who
all they do is they're they're the their dj Khalin
dj Kalin wishes he could win as much as the
Patriots win, especially in Foxborough. I'm not sure what people expected.
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I did think the Dolphins would keep it closer, and truthfully,
and Ryan Fitzpatrick not throwing a late pick, it would
have been closer. But the least surprising thing ever, is
Bill Belichick doing whatever it took to win a game
against the team that beat him last year, and it
ticked him off the entire off season. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show
(17:51):
weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. All right, let's
let's check in with my mom and Brandon Chrystal. I
got a guy in Denver you want to get ready
for Monday night football? Who's better than my boy? B
K of course, uh works in Denver's Broncos. Inside he
joins in the Doug Gotlin Show on Fox Sports Radio
Courtland Sutton. What's his status? So I hate to be
(18:13):
that guy in this case, but he's still a true
game time decision. Oh stop it, you know if he's
playing or not. No, I've actually been checking with people
within within the last few minutes because the Bronco has
made a couple of practice squad moves. But by league
rule this year, that doesn't mean they're necessarily going to
be active in either of my receivers. Doesn't matter because
they have seven receivers on the roster. Those are both
defensive moves. Obviously one to fill in for Vaughan Miller
(18:35):
sort of, at least as a body. We can get
to that in a little bit. But big Fanjo did
say on Saturday that he's gonna give Cortland one of
the most primitive tests in football. If he can do
ten jumping jack's with a sprained shoulder, then he can play.
And I don't know how seriously vic knowing that's part
of it. Wait, he's really going to make a new
jumping Jack's. I guess we'll find out. And I talked
(18:57):
to both players and people inside the building. I want
video of the jumping jack's, Brandon I want. Normally i'd
be able to probably get if they were in public.
This year, we're gonna be so relegated to our little
plastic bubbles up in the press box that the only
people will be down There will be a couple of
photographers in our sideline reporter. But I'll see if I
can get on her. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
(19:18):
hold on Okay, so listen, I want you, guys. I
want to explain who Brandon Chrystal is. Okay, Brand's my
friend for seven so in six we meet in the spring. Okay, Okay,
we've been friends. Okay. There have been events where I've
literally had to call the very very top of CBS
(19:39):
or ESPN or Fox to get me into right, and
I couldn't get in and I needed to. I need
to find a way or know somebody or whatever. And
I'm actually working for CBS at the time, and I
couldn't get into like a green room. Right. I get
there and I walk in and there's like I've never forget. Um.
(20:00):
We're at the hard Rock in Dallas for the Final
four and I'm talking with Tony Romo and there's Charles
Barkley walking by and Jim nance Hello friends, and then
and then there's Brandon. Okay. So, if there's one human
being on earth who can break out of your proverbial
media bubble, it's you. Don't give me this. I'm stuck
in the press box. You get your ass down the field,
and you get me a photo or a video evidence
(20:22):
of the actual jumping backs. You hear copeche all Right,
I'll do my best. And so I'm gonna say, now,
this is never seen that and this is usually those
are in social settings that don't affect my employment. This
would be one where you don't necessarily want to cross
the NFL's look the NFL A series, they do not
they do not mess around. I was doing I did sideline,
(20:44):
as you know, for a Fox game one time, and
I was so excited. I'm like standing on that you know,
there's that little dotted line, and a security guard comes
up to me and he's like, uh, mr, golly, you
have to get behind that line. It's like okay. And
then I was like, you know, I'm watching the game
and then I hear tapping the shoulder in there, some
guy with a walkie talking to your piece and he's like,
New York just called and said, if you step over
(21:04):
that line one more time, you're being escorted. I was like,
I'm calling the game, like they don't care anyway. That's
gonna be related to basketball coaches, who there's that kind
of imaginary box, but coaches kind of stand beyond that
play and then with safety protocols. As he heard, Dan
Buyer mentioned Troy Vincent's memo to the league. Yeah, they're
they're not fooling around. Uh. Nonetheless, with Courtland, I think
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he really is a true game time decision. Some coaches,
UH and personnel people that I've reached out to over
the last few days going back to when it happened,
and a couple of players think that if he can
take a shot and and can have a full enough
range of motion, he's going to try to give it
a go, because that's the kind of player he is.
Brandon christologians how much does losing Von Miller heard him
a lot? But I don't know if it's a difference
(21:46):
between what their end result for the season would be
or not, because I'm not sure they're a super Bowl team.
I do think they're a playoff contender, and with that
extra playoff spot they're helped by the offense is going
to be a big key to their success in terms of,
you know, what they can really do, because the defense
is already gonna be really good with or without von
or with or without a healthy Bradley Chubb, assuming once
of those guys was there, like last year where they
(22:07):
were still pretty good because the offense couldn't pick him
up enough until Drew lock got gave him a shot
in the arm late. So it looks it hurts to
lose maybe the best dage pass rusher and football, certainly
one of them, and the best player on the team.
I know, Justin Simmons, the second team All Pro. We
talked about Courtland Sutton, how good he is. And they've
got some Pro Bowl kind of running backs with Melton
Gordon and Philip Lindsay and Bradley Chub may get there,
(22:27):
but he's not there yet. Von Miller is there. I
know he had a bit of a down year. He
had the best offseason he's had, and so to lose
him as a as a thirty one year old looking
to not only sement his legacy which is maybe in
some ways cemented, but probably work on a contract extension
and finish his career here because he does have one
more year less next year. Now he's gonna make him
seventeen million coming off that injury, unless he can sneak
(22:48):
on to the roster at the end of the year
back on because of the i R rules where there's
no no limit like there normally is. It's a it's
a big loss, but I don't know it's one that
that will completely wreck their season because they did trade
for Drell Case. He's gone five straight Pro Bowls. Job
is coming back. They've got two good safeties, and Dick
Fangio's a hell of a defensive coach. He is Um, okay,
a bunch of other stuff I want to get to.
(23:09):
You mentioned Drew lock. Um. The rest of the league
was kind of like, you know, he's fine. We know
he's talented, he's athletic. Um, he's young. He did get
some experienced last year. Um, you get a tightest team,
which very good, and then then they got to go
to Pittsburgh before they go to Tampa. So it gets
real in a hurry. What are returns on Drew lock
(23:31):
in terms of the difference year one to year two? Well,
the kids losing with confidence from the second that I
met him last year the Senior Bowl and the Broncos
draft him, and I think it was unfortunately for him
a little out of character that he had to kind
of just wait in the wings, which he was fine with,
and then he gets hurt in preseason, so he's able
to kind of just sit and learn from Joe Flacco.
But he's a guy that used to be in the
guy he was. He went only the best high school
(23:52):
football player in Kansas City, he was also that best
high school basketball player in Kansas City, and big time
D one programs ou in places like that where recruiting
him to come hoop. So this is the dude that's
used to walking into the room and being the man,
and he exuded that. But because he won four of
his five games, his teammates buy in and then you
see the athleticism and that you haven't seen around here
at that position since maybe Jake the Snake or or
(24:13):
his boss John Elway were rolling out and thrown across
the body or flipping it as Pat Shermer likes to
call it the six d R check down. Uh. And
he can make all the throws now, as you Patrick
mahomes noe. But is he in that group below them
in terms of terms of arts arm talent but at
the top of the league. I think he might be.
And and he's not shaken very easily. So I think
that there's real optimism, like your pal Colin has. Is
he going to be the league m P. I'm not
(24:33):
ready to say that, but I think that that he could.
He could end up being the guy and we won't
have to talk about John Elway not being able to
find quarterbacks for Mike Rabel got on the plane yesterday.
He had a mask on that said, give give Derrick
Henry the football. We we there's a lot of things
we don't know about NFL teams. We know what Tennessee
is wants to do tonight. How does Denver match up
(24:54):
with them? Well, last year they messed up pretty well. Now,
they did have Von Miller, but they didn't have Bradley Chubb,
and they didn't have Drill Casey that time. But the
Broncos help him to eight yards on fifteen carries. I
get that that was Marcus Marrio is the last game,
and so Titan fans and a lot of ways can
thank the Broncos for getting Rable and company to pull
the trigger and make that move to to switch to Tannehill,
(25:15):
which opened up their offense a little bit. But they
had a scheme last year that figured out how to
stop Derrick Henry. So I guess the question is, has
Arthur Smith, who by the way, is the richest assistant
coach and in uh in the NFL because his dad
owns a little company called FedEx, have they come up
with a new way to get Derrick Henry uh past
that Broncos defense because they couldn't do it last year,
or will the Broncos be able to duplicate it? So
(25:36):
I'm not saying the Broncos are gonna keep him in
the twenty eight yards. That seems unrealistic. But maybe he
doesn't run for a buck fifty. I just want to
point out that his dad may be worth a bunch
of money, but he ain't right that when when your
dad is a bunch of money, I've heard all these
dads you said like I'm rich, You're You're not. You're kids.
So there's that you're not last thing, most important thing.
(25:58):
Brandon Crystal Broncos in our Joinius Doug Gotlin show, Fox
Sports Radio, When is Kansas gonna go Division one in football? Uh? Well?
As funny as they opted out and those are just
a bunch of students that I think we're team. They
were able to get them together. You're in a row
Coastal Carolina shown to Clears come to Lawrence and have
their way with with the Jayhawks less Milan and may
(26:20):
want to think about retiring again or stepping away. That
was pretty rough. But hey, basketball season we think is
right around the corner, Dug, and if they let us play,
whether it be COVID or otherwise, I think will be okay. Um,
the Nugget thing is like it it went under the
radar because it was against the NFL, But I mean
it's kind of remarkable. It shouldn't be surprising the team
(26:40):
that plays an altitude is better than the second half.
But they've done this, They've gotten down big and coming
back against the Clippers. I think the pressures on the
Clippers tomorrow it kind of has to be. And that's
the way the Nuggets of Roses last few games, I
don't think so much. As they were down three one
Agasto Jazz. There was pressure there certainly that they put
on themselves. But the Clippers are supposed to be the
team maybe winning the championship. The nug It's win their
(27:01):
second game and the Clippers odds went up to win
the championship, So I'm not sure exactly how that shakes out.
But uh, you know, I had our palstar Charles on
with me on k O S and in a couple
of weeks ago, right at the game one, he's like,
this is a terrible matchup. There's no way that the Nuggets.
I don't think they'll win a game, and I kind
of agree with them. And now they don't have any
of the pressure. And that's what the joker said yesterday
(27:21):
after the game, was because we're just playing loose. There's
not none the pressures on us. So I think, yeah,
I'll even more on the Clippers. Doesn't mean the Nuggets
are gonna win, but they've proven they can win these
last two games. So you get to a game seven, Doug,
you know, anything can happen, Anything can happen. Great stuff,
b K. Enjoy the game tonight from your bubble. I
expect to see some video of those jumping jacks. We'll
talk to you very soon. Thanks, buddy, great talking to.
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Herd talking about Bruce arians criticism of Tom Brady. I
probably was at times. I shouldn't have Uh. It should
(28:24):
have been a one on one conversation. It's hard. I mean,
any time you call out one of your players publicly,
especially a quarterback with their egos, you're gonna call some
tension there. And I think it's tension that you don't
really need reporters asking questions, you know, right off the cuff.
You want to give them the right answer. A lot
(28:46):
of times you shouldn't give him the right answer. Belichick's
got it best, you know, owned a Cincinnati and so
I don't think it's good to publicly criticize your quarterback.
I think it depends on the guy, and Brady has
been able to take in the past. Will see if
he can take it from a guy who they don't
have great equity with each other, right Like Bruce Arians
has been the quarterback whisper, a quarterback guru for a
(29:09):
long time. But this was supposed to be fun, and
it's not fun, you know, being being pointed out to
him not had a good game. On the other hand,
like Tom Brady's not an idiot. He doesn't think he
played well, So I don't know how they'll take it.
Look for most of my friends. I'll give you an example.
(29:31):
I have a great working relationship with my boss is here,
one of whom I've worked I worked with previously a
different place. He sent me a note on Friday I
was doing the show, and I was like, man, that's
great feedback. One, it proved to me he's listening. He's
paying attention, which is a big thing in our business, Like,
I know you have a job, but I'd love for
(29:51):
you to listen. And two he was right. He was right.
So as long as he's paying attention, and if he's
right and I know that I'm better that I played,
I don't really see that big an issue as long
as you don't make it personal, and as long as
as as I also get praise when I play really well,
(30:12):
which I do think is one of the things that
allow Bruce arians to elevate himself as a coach in
comparison to where Bill Belichick would leave it. Um I
got one more piece of audio for you. This was
Nick right on first things first, talking about the Cowboys
lost of the Rams. Cowboys fans were so certain everything
was gonna be better now that Jason Garrett's going, you're
(30:32):
running draw plays on third and six and you're taking
time outs home with you. It's same old story. And
I don't know how with this offense, Mike, you score
three second half points. I don't know how that happened.
I do. Dak Prescott has limitations. He was a fourth
round pick for a reason. The Cowboys wanted to pay
him a lot of money, but didn't want to make
(30:53):
him the highest paid quarterback for a reason. And and
we've all said this about Dak Prescott. There's an Raymond
Green aspect to him, right. He's really good with the Cowboys,
but you put him on another team and he's fine. Right.
You wouldn't rather have him than Lamar. You'd rather have Lamar.
You would rather have him than Aaron Rodgers and Pat
(31:14):
mahomes Um. You know, I don't know if you'd rather
have Kirk cousins than having him. There's a lot of
Kirk cousins to him. I think that's about that's a
that's about an accurate He's a better run than Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins is a more accurate thrower. Other than that,
they're about the same guy. And I think that's one
of the things that limits them is we have this
(31:37):
thing about about Dak Prescott Will. We can't adjust our
expectations of him as a player because our expectations of
the Dallas Cowboys are completely through the roof double clutch
on me. There can I talk uniforms for a second? Okay,
(32:02):
Rama's when the Rams new logo first came out, we
all made fun of it, correct I Yeah, they yes,
Rams uniforms in the uniform display. I don't know what
you thought, But when you saw them last night, what
do you think? I thought they were fine? I wasn't.
I think the classics are better, but they weren't as
bad as people made them out to be. And that's
(32:23):
a bit of a backhanded compliment. But they're not as
ugly as at first. Um Ryan Music, Yeah, like, listen,
you look a lot better than you did in that picture.
How about was the picture? It doesn't matter, um Music?
Where are you on the Rams uniforms? I like them?
I think I do agree with John. I think, um,
(32:46):
there were other styles that they had previously that I
probably liked a little better. But I do like them.
And for what it's worth, my fiance really liked them,
very nice. She was a big fan. She's like, I
like what the Rams are wearing, Kim, I like that.
I like that the pants like Saints episode well in
the middle the shows out there. But of the the
(33:08):
Saints pants, she thought they were leggings. I go, no,
those would be black pants with high black socks, but
very close. Um, I really like them. I really like
the helmets. I feel like it's a this is two
thousand twenty and I you know, I like the Rams
classic ones, but I could use the Rams classic ones
(33:29):
once a year. These ones look like like look uniforms
can change, it evolve, and these are these are good ones.
There have been some other ones that they've had. I
really didn't like the Navy ones that they had in St.
Louis with the gold pants, and that did not like
those at all. Um, I'll tell you so those look
better on TV than they didn't presentation. I think the
(33:49):
opposite of the Chargers yellow pants. Now, if you see
the Chargers, Like if you follow him on Instagram or
you watch them up close, you're like, man, those are
really cool. But then watch him on TV and I
think whether the lightning bolt is too small or whether
the yellow is just too bright. It doesn't it doesn't
(34:09):
translate as well on your TV set as as like
the Rams one did, and so the two out Whereas
again when they were released, I was like, man, freaking out.
These are awesome because their odes to the old AFL ones.
That's really the only kind of uniforms of note, right,
everybody else went with their classic ones. Is that about right? Well?
(34:31):
I mean you technically you had the debut of the
new Falcons ones. Yeah, I didn't like that. I don't
like those a t L. Yeah, I don't know whatever
they're okay. I feel like it was a weird. That
was a weird because that's like the first day game
I remember watching there where the sun was shining through.
There was something weird there in terms of how that
(34:53):
field looked, whereas last night the in so far like
that was a clearly that the lighting everything and at
night and being in the dome like it was made
for that TV setting. I thought the Rams of the
better uniforms of the two. And that's what the classic
Dallas Cowboys, yes from Must You Wanna Talk? And the
Washington team uniforms were interesting. They were like really like
(35:15):
a odd read, right, that weren't the normal read that
they had last year or the years before or what
it was? Kind of is it? It looked odd to me?
I don't know. Maybe the number of the helmet didn't
really help either, and was so bad to start. Oh gosh,
they were terrible first half of the game. They were terrible,
terrible anyway, The charges were they have a number of
their helmet too, Is that normal? The number of uh special? Okay,
(35:41):
I know, I thought that's what the old NFL ones
used to have. Oh well, okay, but they didn't have
that last year. Um no, but they've done away with
those those awful like navy with gold like that was
that was a great look. That wasn't It wasn't a
great look anyway. I mean, I do like the classics.
Jaguars had some kind of different uniforms coming up next.
(36:04):
Browns had different uniforms. But guess what sat Brown's Baker Mayfield.
The Browns really struggled yesterday. I'll tell you why Baker
and Dak Prescott have a lot in common. This Doug
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