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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What Up. Welcome in Doug Gottlieb Show Podcast. Uh got
some thoughts for you on Bubba wall also share with
you in a second Baseball's back, will react Avery Bradley,
They're not going to Orlando. Give you my thoughts there.
But let's let's let's get to Bubba Wallace the saga
which took a weird turn yesterday and then not sure
we got the reaction we thought we'd get originally from
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Bubba Wallace. Let's get after it. Thanks for listening to
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Sports Radio Boom, What of America, Doug Gottleap Show, Fox
Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day. Week
creep closer and closer to sports being back on TV. Yes,
I know we've had some Nascar, I've had some golf
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whoop and baseball on the way by the end of
next month. So roughly a month away from Hoop and
Baseball on TV. I'll get in on Avery Bradley on
why he hurts his case with a two headed case
for why he's not gonna play with the Lakers. Um,
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we gotta we got a good amount to get to.
I want to start with the Bubba Wallace apology, which
you heard from Brian Finley if you were just listening.
This is a day after what happened at the end
of our show. So we're like twenty three or so,
twenty two hours from the FBI releasing their findings that
there was no hate crime. There was simply a rope
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and a news for the type of not which could
be considered an news was I was found, but it
had been there for well over six months, if not
a year, and had nothing to do with the number
forty three car. So the progression of it is Bubba
Wallace was supposedly told that it was a noose, and
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of course he was very emotional about it. The race
was canceled that or postponed that day. That was on Sunday.
On Monday, it became a big national story and he
led the procession out for the national anthem with everyone
in the pits following him out and had those really
powerful tweets I g s with the the flag on
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his mask and all of NASCAR behind him. There was
a symbolic nature to it. After the race, and when
she finished fourteenth, he did somewhat of a victory lap,
showing support for the fans that showed support for him.
It was a feel good through a very what looked
like ugly tail. But there was part of it which
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I did feel bad about, asking the question, I don't
this feels this feels fake? Right? It it the idea?
It just felt fake something. Something was wrong with that story, right,
You're like, yeah, just something. It doesn't make sense about
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that story. What what what could it be? I don't know.
There's only five thousand fans. They're nowhere near getting into
the garages. This isn't like an average NASCAR event where
there are people that get tours through the garages and
through the pits. Nobody's getting because of coronavirus. There's cameras everywhere,
limited people in there. Because those cars are worth hundreds
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of thousands of dollars, it's too easy to find out
who did it, and when NASCAR are comes out one
day later. As soon as the FBI comes out one
day later with their findings, you either ask yourself, wait,
either that wasn't the most thorough of investigations or they've
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known for a while something was wrong with this tale, right,
So to be fair, Okay, to be fair, Bubba Wallace's
statement earlier today was close to perfect. Right. It's it's
really this is really not that hard, Okay, really not
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that hard to just go like, hey, you know what,
that was an unbelievable show solidarity, and thankfully it was
just a misinterpretation. Is something we just we just you know,
are bad. You know, somebody walked into the garage and
thought they saw something that they didn't actually see. And
you know what, the most importan thing was that everyone
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in NASCAR had my back, whether it was a real
or a fictitious noose that actually took place. Right that
That's all we kind of needed to hear. The problem
was the denial last night on CNN with Don Lemon
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or here's Bubba Wallace earlier today talking about those who
would call it a hoax. Sorry if I come off
as I'm piste off on our interview, but I am
just because of how it's been portrayed, and how it's
been on me, and I'm sitting here telling me the
facts of how I'm just being told information and kind
of following suit and and now all of a sudden,
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I'm playing the victim card. But at the end of
the day, it's you know, I never wanted to be,
you know, carrying the weight of all this, even weeks prior.
So it's all this madness. It just so happens that
I am the voice, I am the face, I am
the one that that is, you know, carrying this message.
And now to have this happen. Uh. And and it
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ended up not being an act a hateful act towards me,
which is great, um, but it just adds that much
more drama, that much more pressure that again I didn't
ask for. I didn't want to be a part of. Um. Yeah,
look I don't think. Yeah, look, just own it where
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it It's okay. You it was. It was a mistake.
It was a misinterpretation, that's all. It totally happens to anybody.
It could happen to anybody, could happen to anybody that
was today when he's kind of angry and defiant, and
then just moments ago, he tweets, it's been an emotional
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few days. First off, I want to say how relieved
I am the investigation revealed this wasn't what we feared
it was. I want to thank my team, NASCAR, FBI
for acting swiftly and treating it as it uh, treating
this as a real threat. I think we gladly take
a little embarrassment over what the alternatives could have been.
Make no mistake, though some will try, this should not
detract from the show of unity we had on Monday,
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as the progress we've made as a sport to be
more a welcoming environment for all. I kind of think
you took away from it, right because instead of that statement,
instead of saying, hey, it's just overblown, it's just a mistake,
just a misinterpretation. The important thing was the solidarity shown.
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That's not what Bubba Wallace did. Now, that doesn't make
him a horrible human being. It makes him a human being.
The idea that he didn't invite this, like, okay, right,
he's the only black full time driver on NASCAR, you know,
NASCAR circuit, so you know he he was he was
kind of thrust into it, but he did embrace it,
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and he did take a victory lap and he did.
You know, it doesn't make him the worst person, but
he was feeling himself when he was on TV the
past couple of days. He was empowered, emboldened, and he
frankly should be because he has the support of everybody
in the sport. But look, we we got to get
out of this thing. I call them vard Texas. He
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has known of vor Texas. Promis you don't have vord Texas.
I kind of do, but I don't know. I mean,
isn't like some sort of something that spins and you
go into nowhere or something like that. Um, okay, A
vortex of vortices. Um, there's several different you know, several
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different uh uh, you know definitions of it. But a vortex,
if you go to the Webster's Dictionary, is usually within
a body of water, a circular motion that tends to
form in a cavity and vacuum in the center and
circuit and draws the cavity and vacuum bodies subject to
its action. It draws things down, It sucks everything down
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that's sort of board to sees of vortext does And
we're we get in this vortex of of of evil
and of racism and of suspicion, and it just pulls
us down to where we see something we automatically go racism,
anti semitism, right, And I'm not gonna sit here and
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tell you that racism and anti semitism and and homophobia
like that those things don't exist. But there's a couple
of things that happen. One, social media does spread stories
that aren't totally true or don't provide all the facts,
like wildfire, and social media hasitency to jump to conclusions
where you're either all in or you're all out, Like
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to those of us who are like, man, that was
a great show of solidarity, but that's a weird case, like, oh,
that's that's because you're a racist, Like, no, that's actually
because it just kind of strikes me as weird, Like
who would bring a news to a a ace and
think they can get away with it when there's such
a limited number of people. It just didn't make just
didn't add up, Like you've been doing a long doing
long enough, you're like that that doesn't make sense. Do
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I think there are some evil people in the world, Like, yeah,
do I think there's a criminal that's stupid, boy. I
don't know, smart enough to be one of the few
to get in, dumb enough to be the only guy
to bring a noose like it just didn't seem right.
But but all Bubba had to do to win, win,
win was the statement that he released earlier, you know,
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an hour ago, whenever he got released. But instead it
was it looked if you read what the FBI wrote,
it was a noose. Like, Yeah, a noose is a
name for a not. And I've said this time and again,
and this is really really important. Okay, I am anti
black face. Anybody should be anti black face. But the
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big problem is that a lot of people, especially knuckleheads
on so social media, think that any time you imitate
a black person or you actually put makeup on your
skin to look like a black person, that's black face.
It is not just like any time you see a
rope with that loop, it's a noose. If you want
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to use the technical definition of the type of not
it is, you may, but that is not the evil
type of noose that most people were referring to. And
this is our problem. All right. There's there's a couple
of different problems. One and I think Bubba. Bubba was
guilty of this one. You want to be heard. Everybody
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wants to be heard, and people are willing to listen
except the people who say they want to be heard.
Because had Bubba simply even after that, or at any
point time, had he simply listened to the Okay, well
where's the rope? How big was it? But it was
just a rope pole? Well we sure, we sure. This
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is the type of news that has meant for me.
Because I'm we were sure about this. There should have
been some sort of who would have done that? Instead
the immediate reaction you had to be willing to listen.
This was like, remember that the tone and tenor of
a statement today was great. This was yesterday last night
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on CNN. The image that I have and I have
seen of what was hanging in my garage is not
a It's not a garage pool. I've been racing all
my life. We've we've raced out of hundreds of garages
that never had garage pools like that. So people that
want to call a garage pool and put out old
videos and photos of of of knots being as their evidence,
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go ahead. But from the evidence that we have and
that I have. It's a straight up noose. The FBI
has stated it was a news over and over again.
NASCAR leadership has stated that it was the news. I
can confirm that I actually got evidence of what was
hanging in my garage, over my car, around my picker
guys to confirm that it was a noose, and never
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seen anything like it. This is just a story that
grew and grew and grew, right, I once kind of fish.
This big. A noose by definition, is a loop of
the slip knot that binds closer the more it's drawn
like that. That's actually what a noose is. It is
not necessarily the type of noose that everyone seems to
believe he was referring to. It's just the what we
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have here is a failure to communicate, right, That's what
we have here lost in translation. If you will it,
it does happen. Like. I don't think that Bubba is
evil or wrong or a race spader in any way,
but sometimes you see things and you it's here's here's
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the deal. As a sports fan, okay, you know some
sports fans, because their team is always bad, that they're
just waiting for something bad to happen like that's a
sign we're gonna lose this game. Many of you are
that guy or that girl who watches your team play.
You wait for a sign, and that sign tells you
you're gonna lose, because we always lose. That's how people
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seem to be approaching racism. At any sign of something
that could be racial or racial injustice, we always assume
when we don't know it to be the case, and
if we just take a breath, we can find out
what's what, We can get to the bottom of things. Um,
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what what felt like an amazing galvanizing moment on Monday
at exactly this time at Talladega We now becomes a
bit of an embarrassment to Bubba Wallace. And it wasn't
because of the misinterpretation. And it wasn't because he's wrong
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that there have been racists that are NASCAR fans and
not in any way. And it wasn't even because of
his celebration after the race, unless, of course, he knew
what we were told yesterday before the race ever began,
and he Bubba Wallace's problem was, just like many protesters
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have told the rest of America, you're not listening. He
heard what he wanted to hear. He imagined what he
wanted to see, and that is that just like anybody
who is protesting wants to tell you, like, look, you're
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you're curing what you want to hear your he did
the exact same thing. And until we're all willing to listen,
all wanted to learn, all want to take breath, things
like this are gonna happen. So I do I feel
a little bad for Bubba Wallace, but much of this
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he's done to himself because he is feeling himself and
unwilling to listen to the actual findings and just go like, hey,
this is the affirmation information now was working on my bad.
Thank you so much to NASCAR. All those guys have
my back, and they'll still, by the way, have his back.
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We all just want that conspiracy theory to somehow be true.
And we did land on the moon. Lee Harvey Oswald
did shoot Kennedy, and the Bubba Wallace thing was it
was a misinterpretation. It was just a mistake. It happens.
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there's there there's two different things going on here with
Avery Bradley. And have you guys ever heard of split
in the vote? He isn't a split in the vote,
is right? So, uh, splitting the vote is usually something
that you refer to in politics. Uh, but vote splitting
as an electoral effect in which the distribution of votes
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among similar candidates reduced the reduced the chance of winning
an election. Right, So that's kind of what's happening. That's
kind of what's happening with Avery Bradley. So, Avery Bradley
was part of this player's coalition who questioned whether or
not it was right for the NBA players to go
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back to playing when to all this kind of civil
and social unrest, Right, would it be a distraction? And
he just wondered if there were better things to be
doing with your time than just playing basketball. It's actually
it's a really it's an interesting thought. Okay. So look,
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my immediate thought was like, are you kidding? You know,
you're you're allowed to protest your and you have a
great platform and playing the NBA, but that doesn't mean
you have to sacrifice your day job. I know. Yeah.
By the way, all that money you make in your
day job, you if you want to, you can donate
as much as you want to causes, which that that
does more in many ways than marching on the street. However,
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it would be a big sacrifice. You're on the Lakers,
you got chance of winning a championship to make such
a sacrifice. But again, that's that that's only half of
the thing. So Avery Bradley is not going to join
the Lakers in Orlando, but not for just one reason.
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His oldest child is six years old, Lizabeth's mom in Austin,
and because he I guess wouldn't be able to attend
because he has some respiratory problems. It's one of the
two reasons Avery Bradley is not going to go. The
other reason he's not gonna go is well, he wants
to donate some of his time to these social causes. Okay, look,
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I I actually understand what he's doing here, Avery Bradley.
I guess he's too woke to work. That's where the
way it is. He's too woke to work. He's too
bothered by what he's seen to go to work. But
instead of just owning that and being the guy, Kyrie
wasn't going to Orlando anyway. He wasn't gonna play anyway.
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So Kyrie offering this up, it's like it doesn't matter.
But but see what Avery wants is he wants the
best of both worlds. He wants to be able to
be recognized as protesting instead of playing. On the other hand,
he doesn't want to be criticized for it, so he
puts the family thing out there. I let me put
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the family thing out there. You know why because and
you'll get this on social media and you'll get pushback
from other radio guys or whatever got leaves a jerk.
You can't question family, Yes you can. Most of those
guys aren't bringing their families. Do you know why? Because
if you actually look at it, players have to be
quarantined for our twenty four to thirty six hours when
they get their family members have to be quarantined, I believe,
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for four days before they reunite with the players. If
you have if you have anybody who is I mean,
nobody wants to be quarantined for four days, let alone
you got little kids and they gotta stay in a
hotel room, be quarantined four days. No thank you, no
thank you. Is it a sacrifice to go and play
in the NBA and leave your family behind? Sure? Is
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it is, But you know what it's called. It's called
a job, and you have earned the right, Avery Bradley,
to be one of it's not just a four fifty
best basketball players on Earth. But if you break it
down right, if you really kind of want to get
down to it, Avery Bradley is part of the twenty
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two teams that go I think they expanded their roster.
But if not, you know, I mean, you're talking about
the best three players on the face of this earth.
Three hundred guys, that's it get to play basketball in
this bubble and get paid handsibly nearly five million dollars
his contract this year to do so. And oh yeah,
by the way, you just got three months at home.
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You've got more time at home than you've ever gotten.
So which is it? Is it family? Because it's family?
Then I would go like, you know, look, I think
it's a I I think you you don't want to
end up resenting your family turning down a chance to
play for and win a championship. Is it family or
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is it these social causes are too important for you
to play concentrate on basketball, because if that's it, again,
I disagree with you, but I would actually respect it
more than the listen's family can't question me about it
or his family, then don't throughout the social cost thing.
And I and I know what what and I am
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a reasonable person. A reasonable person says, well, look, you
don't want to leave family behind, so since he's staying
at home, he's gonna donate his time. Like that's all reasonable, okay,
But it's all a bunch of it. All feels like
he's hiding behind the family thing. Look, I have kids,
They're awesome. And I remember when I would do the
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n C a term for CBS. Okay, I do a
week of games, maybe home for a day, then Championship week.
Right where you would do. I would go to Vegas
and do the Mountain West, fly on a red eye,
go to New York, do the UH selection Sunday shows,
sometimes fly home for a day, but oftentimes fly right
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to the first site and go from first sight to
New York City to the final four. It's a month
and a half away from seeing your family unless you
fly your wife in much like these guys. But it's
an unbelievable job. And while it stinks, just like all right,
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the other part is they got three months at home.
What we're doing here? Oh yeah, And this is not
society telling me this. This is not you know, I'm
not I'm I'm middle of the road, got lab all right,
But I will tell you in the real NBA. Do
you think Lebron James happy about this? I want, like
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Avery Bradley wasn't good the first half of the year,
he started to play way better. He's an incredibly important part.
They're gonna have to shut down Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams.
He's guard. That's who he was brought in to do.
That's what he was brought in to do, and he's not.
You're not gonna show up what you want to win
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an NBA You get so few opportunities to win an
NBA championship. He'd been on bad teams. You get to
play for the Lakers with Lebron James would arguably the
best team in the league. And you're not gonna do it.
You think Lebron wants you back? He's got a player
option next year. Imagine if they lose and they get
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lit up by the Clippers guards, by the Bucks guards,
or by the Rockets guards. How's that conversation go. That's
not politics, that's not that's not politicians, that's not talking heads.
That's real in the NBA, those guys going down there
have every right to go. What the like the Trevor reason,
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things different, right, It's just different. You know, he's got
a twelve year old son. I still would have gone,
but he only gets to see he gets a month
with them in the summer, and because of the dates
and school and all that other stuff. I would still
find a way to bring bring your you know, even
though he's got to be quarantined because of his age
for four days or whatever. I would still find a way.
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But the reason thing, at least the reason is like, look,
it's family. This is the way it is. You know,
it's it's not pretty, but this is this is what's
what custody looks like. Bradley is trying to do both.
He's trying to do social justice warrior and put it
off on a six year old. Bro. You got a
legit chance to win a championship. If you think Lebron
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James is happy with that news that that ain't that
ain't the case. Doug gotlip show here, rolls on on
on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, look, there's a realness to it,
and what happens in what happens is media guys. Okay,
media guys, look at the we we all do this.
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We look at the world through our own biases, through
our own lifestyle, and so you'll get a lot of
media guys will come today to Avery Bradley's defense, like,
you can't. I got one of these last night. You
you can't question, you know, you can't question what he's doing,
why he's doing it like that actually isn't even close
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to being how it works. Of course we're allowed to
question it, right, of of course, we are absolutely positively
allowed to question a matter of fact. That's my job,
by nature. Oh that's the story. Well good, that's the
story that I believe the story, and nobody ever questions
the story or whatever of it. It's ridiculous. This, this
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is what I'm talking about. Um last night Nate Jones,
who I mean, I really like his his work. Um
Nate Jones, who you can follow on social media at
Jones on the n B a very popular NBA writer.
So Nate Jones goes on the bird and says, hey,
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you can't question this, dude, Right, that's what he said.
You can't question it. There's no right or wrong. And
what players decide to do, playing or not playing when
the season resumes, that's a person's choice. Save the judgment
that ain't that works. Hey, there may not be right
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or wrong in your mind, but if you have a job.
Like a team meets at the start of the year, right,
And not every team does this in the NBA because
they know they don't know have a chance. But the
Lakers meet the start of the year, and what do
they say, Well, we want to we want to the
best record in the West, and we want to get
to the NBA finals. We want to win an NBH
Like winning an NBA championship is their goal. Avery Bradley
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has bounced around the NBA searching for just such an opportunity.
Your goal is still out there. You get paid to
play basketball. Now. I know the NBA put in a
stipulation like, hey, look, you don't want to go, you
don't have to go. We'll still pay it, all right,
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But make no mistake about it. This is a job.
It is a job, a really glamorous job, really well
compensated job. And I'm not I'm not somebody to sit
here and tell you those men haven't earned the right, okay,
And and for the most part, they've earned that money
because there's just not a lot of guys that can
do what they can do. They're not like Avery Bradley
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six one six too. They're just not a lot of
guys that can make that can play coup positions, make
that volume of threes and guard almost you know, three
or four positions at the defensive end. He's worth what
he gets paid. But he gets paid to play basketball,
and he's on a team that was put together to
win a championship, and those options, those possibilities are right
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out there for him, and he's like, my my six
year old can't come. And this is gonna take away
from Black lives matter, right, He's not gonna take away
from Black lives matter, because you have a bigger platform
when you're playing in an NBA championship than you do
when you're not playing and you're supposed to be caring
for your six year old son. Yes, John Rolos, do
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you think he changes his mind at some point before
they head down to uh Florida. You think he's gonna
hold tight on it. I think he's I think they've
moved on. Okay, I think Jr. You know, j R.
Smith is the guy that they're gonna sign, and it
wouldn't And I'm I'm sure they're gonna try and call
up Darren. They're gonna try and get Dearren Collinson talk
him out of retirement again. And he was close last
Remember he came to the game when they played the
Clippers and they beat the Clippers and he sat with
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Jennie Bust and he's like, yeah, no, Derren Collinson has
got more family time. It was all about family time.
Is Jehovah's Witness is a different guy, right, religious beliefs,
and obviously he's gone through some off the court issues
going back to the Sacramento deal. He's got plenty of
family time. Like, look, dude, that guy didn't want to come.
Do you want to come? This is the the way
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I understand if you're a writer or if you're a civilian,
you're like, look, these are really reasonable stuff. He's really
shaking up. I get it. Basketball players are wired differently.
Basketball players play basketball just so happens. You can go
play center of basketball, get paid to do it. When
a championship do it, do it with Lebron and do
it in lak Er uniform and be on national TV.
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Any of your social causes. The NBA has never slowed
down anybody from speaking out, you know, on most most
social causes. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific. Is this the Twilight Zone? It is from
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it is a twilight Zone. Go to air Ring Golden
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this is their hit right, I'm stepping too. The twilight
Zone pass is a man house, feels like being gone
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what I gotta play this to my my daughter plays
(31:04):
the bass guitar. Oh yeah, this is a good one
for it. Golden Earring, I had no idea. You put
it right out of the hat. You No, I didn't
know as Golden Earring. I knew what the song was.
I just didn't know who I didn't know who, saying
I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't didn't know
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who you're with, I didn't know who you're with. Twilight
Zone was by a Dutch band called Golden Earring. It
was written by the band's guitarist, George ku Kumans Kuman's
whose inspiration by a book by Robert Ludmin Love Robert Ludlin.
Robert Ludlam wrote the Born series The Born Identity. Twilight
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Zone appears on the two album cut Plays pays tripute
to the Twilight Zone, which is the scariest, freakiest TV
show ever. I can't believe people in the nineteen sixty
with Ozzy and Harriet on were like, let's watched the
Twilight Tone and scared the p out of Twilight Zone
movie also scared the hell out of me. Do you
remember that there was like four movies in one right,
(32:09):
Twilight Zone movies directed by John Landis who directed Animal House. Wow,
very nice. Okay, So the Twilight Zone movie there were
four different scenes, right, that's right. Okay, One was the
Nazi one, right, that's correct with Rick Morrow. Okay, one
was the scariest. One was uh for me, was the
(32:30):
airplane one with John Liftgow. What were the other two?
The other one was something to do with people in
old people home and they became young again. Yes, yeah,
I watched them. Somebody should remake that one. I think
the last one was the kid that that made everything
go bad, like you couldn't say you had to always
say good things to him or else he'd make you
(32:51):
go away. I think that was the fourth one, but
I'm not sure about that one. Okay. Something scary was
two men are driving a car on a lonely country road.
The conversation episodes of the Twilight Zone found that that's
the start. Time Out is an original story based loosely
on death Heads revisited. Um. Bill Connor is a bitter man.
(33:13):
That's the that's the that's the Nazi one kick the
can old May named Mr Bloom just moved to Sunnyvale
Retirement Home. That's where they get young a good life.
That's the one we're forgetting. Um. Helen Foley traveled for
a new job, visits a rural bar for directions. While
she's talking to the owner, she witnesses Anthony, a young
(33:33):
boy playing arcade game. He's harassed. Um. Anyway, he goes
to these weird people's home. That that's the third one.
That's when we forget, and then there's the Nightmare Feet.
It should be point out all four of those, there's
four like different movies in one and there were four
different directors. Right, John Lands did the kind of the
(33:53):
whole thing. But it was produced and it was produced
on the Kick the Can with Steven Spielsberg. Steven Spielberg. Yeah,
let's get to the les. This is game time time
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Alright, Doug, we got a
game real news, fake news. Let's started off with Adrian Peterson. Doug.
(34:18):
He believes could this be his final year playing in
the NFL? Fake or real? Um, I'll say that's real news.
You are fake news. He thinks he canna play forever.
You know why? Why does he's broke anyway? God? Yeah,
so he said, quote, man, why not four more years end?
(34:38):
Quote Seahawks? Do they have interest in Antonio Brown? And
have they had internal discussions? Was signing Antonio? They're real
and they're spectacular. Yeah. Mike Silver of NFL Network says
the teams are looking into Antonio Brown, including the Seahawks,
and he has been Brown working out with current Seahawk
(35:03):
backup quarterback Geno Smith. And that's a possibility, all right, Doug.
But the problem is that we signed Antonio Brown, there's
an expectation of some level of suspension from the NFL.
That's just a great unknown. True. I do think the
Seahawks could really use this town. Absolutely next to DK Metcalf,
that's going to be special, Doug. As far as the Knicks,
you know their track record as far as hiring front
(35:25):
office folks and in being successful in that category. Do
they add front office man in William Worldwide West Wesley
as executive vice president also as senior advisor? Is this
real or is this fake? They're real and they're spectacular. Yeah.
So Leon Rose, who took over as the team president
(35:47):
back in February, brought on his former colleague from c
A A. William Wesley Worldwide West as they call him.
Bears wide receiver Ted Gin says, the starting quarterback position
is quote up for grabs, real or fake mm hmmm,
uh fake news, you are fake news? You are right again.
(36:10):
Was on NFL Network not long ago, and he said
he believes Rubinsky is going to be our guy and
that He is willing to play for whoever it is
and fight for whoever it is, so he says Rubinsky,
and then he adds a little political anybody will do
whatever it works out. I'll be happy with. Well, look,
Mitrobisky is gonna get the right of you to get
the first shot. Um, And that's because Folds has been
(36:31):
a back up before, is a great backup who can
in fact start now. Foles has had success with all
of the offensive coaches and the head coach working with
them previously. He knows the system cold. But but look,
I don't think there's any question, Mr Rubinsky. He has
to lose the job more sol than fools can win it,
and with a shorten offseason that that shouldn't be hard
to do. Question is Canny hold onto it the entire season?
(36:52):
That we won't know until we see how he plays?
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(37:20):
you from sunny Southern California. Man we got a lot
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see him on Fox Sports one covering all sports, especially
the NBA and college basketball. He's the one only Eddie
(38:03):
House and he joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Um Eddie Avery Bradley has a chance to play for
a championship now. He, like the rest of the world,
was under quarantine for better part of three months. Apparently
his his oldest child's only six, lives in Austin, has
some respiratory issues. But he's kind of splitting the why
am I not playing well? Part of it is I
(38:25):
think it's a distraction from social justice, and part of
it is my oldest son can't go what what What
would your reaction be if you were on the Lakers
and this is what you heard from every Bradley? Why
would respect his decision? Um? Everybody has the right to
have their own um us on what's going on with
this social man justice and um the way that they
(38:48):
wanna approach it and attack this problem. And everybody has
their right to try to keep their families safe from
this pandemic. So I would respect his decision. UM. I
would not try to talk anybody out of what their
decision is, because at the end of the day, that
is you know, that's theirs, and that's what they own,
(39:09):
and that's how they feel. And you know a lot
of times you you will have an opinion right and
there's nothing that somebody can do that can talk you
away from that. You can listen to him, you can understand,
get some more information about what whatever the situation is,
but at the end of the day, your opinion and
how you feel and how strong do you feel about
your stance. I don't think people can move you off
of that. And I think that's where you have to
(39:31):
just respect a man and his decision. Do you think
this is I'm I'm asking your opinion now though, because
your opinion does not have to agree with his opinion.
Do you think that uh if if that that attacking
the the issues of social justice UH is more important
or playing basketball is a distraction from those, do you
(39:51):
agree with that stance. I don't agree that it's a distraction. UM.
I think you can do both. I think you could
play and you can still fight UM for social injustice
against social injustice and UM so, I think it's also
a platform. It's a great opportunity because everybody will be
tuned in for your voice to be heard that much louder,
(40:14):
that much stronger and touch that many more people. UM.
You know, you could send a post on Instagram or
or have a picture and have a little comment underneath,
but it's totally different when you are actually saying it
out of your mouth and somebody seeing you saying it
UM and standing on your stands. I think that that
that holds a lot more power than you know. It's
just like when somebody's Twitter beef and you know somebody's
(40:35):
hiding behind we call the Twitter fingers. You know you're
hiding behind Twitter, not that somebody's hiding behind social injustice.
But what I'm saying is that it holds a little
more weight to me. Like with Stephen Jackson out there,
and he's out there, you see him talking and you speaking,
you can feel that. So I think it's an opportunity
to to also push for for the cause that we're
pushing forward. But at the same time, you're able to
(40:58):
to steal go out and enjoy a game. And I
don't think that enjoying the game and taking your mind
off because that's been our sanctution, where As the basketball
court is an opportunity to get out there and kind
of free your mind from what's been going on with
the pandemic and the social injustice. Yeah, I mean, like listen,
I I want to I happen to agree with your opinion. Um.
And but two, I also think that we're just looking
(41:20):
as if he plays. Imagine if you win a championship,
how much big, how how much higher the profile is
in terms of the ability to do interviews. Now, maybe
if you turned down a championship and the team whence
I just here here's the other question I have. Next year,
he's got a player option. Let's say they lose, and
one of the reasons they lose is they can't handle
(41:41):
Lou Williams right, and he was brought in to handle guys,
to guard guys like a Lou Williams, to make shots
and to stretch the defense. Do you think there could
be any pushback from from a guy like Lebron when
I get it, I understand all these issues. We're all
having all these issues, but but you chose to nut
show up on us. No, I don't think you'll be
(42:02):
any pushback. I think Lebron respects him. Uh will will
respect his decision ultimately. And if if you got one guy,
you can't stop one guy in the NBA number one
nobody's stopping one guy one on one. That's just not happening,
especially guy like Lou Williams. That's gonna take a team effort.
What you can do is make it a little tougher
(42:22):
with one guy, but the rest of the team has
to be behind that one guy. So it would be
hard pressed for me to believe that Avery Bradley was
the reason why the Lakers didn't win a championship, because
at the end of the day, you still have Lebron,
James and Anthony Davis and it will be a damn
shame if somebody was to blame Avery Bradley for the
(42:43):
reason the Lakers lost when they have two of the
top players, two of the top five players in the league. Uh,
doug out the show here on Fox sport Trader. That's
the voice of Eddie House. Do you like the bubble idea? No,
I really don't. I think it is is almost virtually
impossible to control everybody's movement. Um. And you're talking about
(43:04):
young guys. And I've said this on The Old Couple
with Chris Bussard and Rob Parker that you know, when
you're young and you have money, you feel invincible, and
you will be doing things that possibly can put only
not only your teammate at risk, but everybody else in
the league at risk. And it's not because you're just
going you're gonna want to have you know, most of
the guys are are well to do. Guys who um
(43:27):
are going to have. You know, if you're single, you're
gonna have interactions with some females. And to me, that's
where in lies the problem. The problem lies. I mean,
we have to be honest with ourselves to think that
guys are gonna be in the bubble and sell a
bate for the whole time that they're in that bubble.
To me, that's it's it's really hard pressed. I mean,
I know if I was a single guy, would definitely
(43:47):
be hard for me. And I mean it just to
really just to be honest though, you know, And I
think that's that's one of the issues. The other issue
is just, um you know, they were talking about having
a hotline where you could call, and now you're opening
up to the gambling. You know, now there's a big
game coming on, the spread looks a certain way. You
lay a heavy bet on one team. Then you call
up and say, I've seen this guy out. He has
(44:09):
to get quarantine. It could be one of their main guys,
or it could be just a man called from the bench.
And to me, those are all risks, high high, high risk,
um to to, I don't think that it's worth the risk.
You know, yeah, um I I it's not just the risk.
I just I feel like three months in quarantine to
(44:30):
decide a championship. You know how guys get like two
weeks in a hotel on a on a long road
trip and you're tired of each other. Plus you're just
physically kind of worn down, you're not yourself. I'm not.
I just I don't know about the level of basketball
will actually have. That's that That's that's kind of my
my thing with it. I'm not sure it's the best basketball,
and it does feel like with the entire world opening
(44:52):
up doesn't mean you have to have fans in the stands.
I don't know why you don't just play it an
empty arenas like they're doing all across the all across
the world, where they're having sport. There's many ways to
do it where you're not just under complete quarantine. You
can't leave, and you don't get the best possible project
any house. Our guest on the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio, does it benefit the Clippers or Lakers
more this time off? I think it benefits both teams.
(45:16):
The teams that it benefits the most are the teams
that are are are great defensive defensive teams. You talk
about Milwaukee's a great defensive team, um the Clippers, and
because the Clippers are deep as well, UM, the Lakers
a great defensive team. Those teams that are out there
that can because it's gonna take a while for the
offense to catch up to the defense. We all know
that's how it usually goes. And when you have a
(45:37):
team that's able to just lock down and when they
go through their offensive walls, they steal are getting stops
on the other end, when the other teams aren't that
great defensively and and have lasses defensively mentally, uh, they
break down and and you know, you get easy baskets.
And those are the things that to me, are gonna
favor these these these really good defense some teams. Is
(46:00):
the fact that you're gonna have to catch up offensively.
Nobody's gonna come in blade guns, blades and fresh out offensively.
But those teams that are able to lock down, that's
been locked down, that's all gonna. That's gonna. It's it's
gonna they're gonna pick up right where they're they left off.
All right, What about the the j R. Smith of
the world, the guys that are haven't played this year?
How hard is that too? Even if you're still in shape,
(46:22):
then to go through training camp and to play and
to be effective. Well, this is different from playing pickup
hoop and from really getting out there and get going. Um,
it's a different level of being in shape. It's a
different level of going hard. It's it's it's that other level.
And I mean he's he's a pro though he's been there,
and it seem's gonna take him some time to get
acclimated back to the game. The speed of the game, UM,
(46:44):
and just finding his win. It's almost like when you
play in in Utah or you're play in Denver. That
first quarter, that first quarter and a half, you're just
trying to catch your win. And once you catch it,
you're fine. You'll be able to push through because you're
in Ultimately, you're in the ultimate shape. Eddie House, Eddie Great,
did catch up with get me in. Thanks so much
for being our guest, and can't wait to see what
this basketball look like looks like when they finally get
back on the court. I know, right, thanks for having
(47:06):
man than all right, the pleasure is all mine. That's uh,
Eddie House, who joined us here on the Doug Otlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, coming up next, Um,
if you haven't been following this, Bubba Wallace new Skate,
there was a there was a a plot twist yesterday
and some reaction last night, continue reaction today, and then
(47:31):
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Heart Radio app Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
so here's the progression of what happened. Okay, here's the
(48:58):
progression of what happened. What happened first was, uh, word
got around on Sunday that there was a noose found
in Bubba Watson's garage. Bubba Watson's the only black full time.
But what did they say, Bubba Watson? My mad, my bad?
Take to Bubba Watson of course, one of the masters
(49:18):
a couple of times, left handed golfer, Bubba Wallace, only
African American driver, only African American driver on the tour,
so on on the NASCAR circuit. So Sunday there's a
Confederate flag that flies above and some being like prop plane,
like what are you doing? Um, which is embarrassing in
(49:42):
NASCAR considering they just banned it. And then you find
out like men there's a noose in like what is
going on? Like rednecks on Revolt. And by the way,
this is I just want to make sure this is
really clear. Redneck does not mean racist. Yeah, you are
allowed to be a redneck and not be a racist
very much, and not because I have friends and family
(50:04):
members that are in fact rednecks, aren't racist racist. The
racist racists come in all shapes and sizes, from all
demographics and all parts of the country. I personally believe
there is a very very small minority of racists. But
what happens is with social media, you see one, you
shoot it, you shame them, and it's like these people
(50:26):
are everywhere, Like now, you just it's just about something
going viral. Anyway, there's a report this is a noose
in Bubba Wallace's garage. On Monday, they're getting ready for
the race Talladego, which is postponed because of rain. We're
sitting here watching and all of a sudden, there's this
amazing procession led by Bubba Wallace and he takes him
selfies with with all his with all the other racers
(50:49):
and their pit crews in the background, like man, that
is solidarity. I even mentioned at the start of the show. Look,
this is an amazing moment for NASCAR. Fast forward another
day and on Tuesday, the FBI announces that thankfully, this
is not a hate crime, and though the news was found,
it's really a rope pool for the garage and had
(51:10):
been there since at least two thousand nineteen, meaning wasn't
designed for them. It's just to open the garage. So
you would think this would be a time for Bubba
Wallace to go like, you know what, that was an
amazing moment. We just overreacted. Nope, this was Bubba while
it's last night on CNN with Don Lemon. The image
(51:31):
that I have and I have seen of what was
hanging in my garage is not a It's not a
garage pool. I've been racing all my life. We've we've
raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage
pools like that. So people that want to call a
garage pool and put out old videos and photos of
of of knots being as their evidence, go ahead. But
(51:52):
from the evidence that we have and that I have,
it's a straight up noose. The FBI has stated it
was a news over and over again. NASCAR leadership has
stated that it was the news. I can confirm that
I actually got evidence of what was hanging in my garage,
over my car, around my picker guys to confirm that
it was a noose and never seen anything like it. Okay,
(52:15):
but a noose is just a slip knot, that's all
it really is. So um, this is this? What is what? So?
I mean? Like, look, Bubba Wallace was rightfully like he
just he wouldn't come off the news thing. He wouldn't
come up that it was it was racial. He I
know what I was told that was there, and that
(52:36):
possible that that's there, that's what that's what it was.
But it wasn't. And I think for all the good
that has been done by NASCAR, and there's been a
lot of good, you know, banning Confederate flags should have
been done a long time ago, but they smartly did it.
(52:58):
The support that Bubba Wallas had, even though it was
blind support, was right. But all Bubba Wallace had to
say was what he eventually wrote today. It's been an
emotional few days. First off, I want to say how
we're leaved. I am that the investigation revealed this wasn't
what we feared it was. I want to thank the
team NASCAR and the FBI for acting swiftly and treating
(53:19):
it as if it was a real threat. I think
we gladly take a little embarrassment over the what the
alternatives could have been. Make no mistake, though some we'll try,
they should not detract from the show of unity we
had Monday and the progress we've made as a sport
to be to be more welcoming environment for all. He's right,
but you took away like this is a big thing.
(53:39):
We have to be accountable. Bubba has to learn to listen. Okay, wait, news,
what it looks like. How is there? Can't we find
out who's back here? It just didn't. As soon as
you heard the story, you're like, that is either the
bravest racist ever or the dumbest racist ever. Now you
either brave been boldened to do it when there's no
(54:01):
one gets that far into the pits, and right now
with with COVID nineteen, nobody's getting back there and there's
cameras everywhere. That's either the bravest or dumbest dude ever.
Turns out it was neither. It was already there, and
it's not a representation of anything racial. And and Bubba's
smartly backing down from even if this is his interview
(54:25):
earlier today. This is Bubba Wallas before he released that statement.
This is early this morning on with Dan Patrick. Sorry
if I come off as I'm piste off on our interview,
but I am just because of how it's been portrayed
and how it's been on me. And I'm sitting here
telling me the facts of how I'm just being told
information and kind of following suit and and now all
of a sudden, I'm playing the victim card. But at
(54:47):
the end of the day, it's you know, I never
wanted to be, you know, carrying the weight of all this,
even weeks prior. So it's all this madness. It just
so happens that I am the voice, I am the face,
I am the one that that is, you know, carrying
this message and now to have this happen, uh and
and end up not being an act and hateful act
(55:08):
towards me, which is great, um, but it just adds
that much more drama, that much more pressure that again
I didn't ask for. I didn't want to be a
part of Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sport Tradiola, So
I understand you didn't ask for you didn't want to
be That's actually not true, right, Like you know, you're
born black and you're only black driver, so you didn't
(55:30):
ask for but you you took on Black Lives Matter
and and as your cause and you have every right
to okay, and that's signified you want to be a
leader in this and but with that leadership comes responsibility.
That's the problem with Kaepernick, to be honest, Like what
Bubba is doing, there's some mistakes and there's some arrogance
(55:52):
there and he was feeling himself a little bit going back.
But at least Bubba is out in front of this thing.
Colin Kaepernick, he's still not really to speak on or
march with anybody in social injustice Like, well, he's funding
these things and that's great. That's not leadership. That's not leadership.
(56:12):
Speaking of Cooperstown baseball, let's get jpm Ross to John
Palm ROSSI joins us on the Doug Gotlip Show, covers
Major League Baseball for both Fox and the MLB network. JP.
We we finally have a deal. We finally have baseball.
But uh, can the damage be undone? Well, good afternoon dog.
(56:37):
The answer is yes, it can. I believe that it
would have been easier on the sports future to have
been playing where it's safe to play by now, or
at least in spring training mode. That would have allowed
the season to start around the fourth of July and
really own the month of July across the country from
the standpoint of sports. But I also sense that there
(56:59):
there's a combination and today of of remorse at how
long it took to get the agreement, but also excitement
over having a season. And we have to realize too
that we are in no way in the clear here.
We've got a lot of states that have that had
increases in COVID nineteen positive tests, and we just heard
in the update as well it's it's continuing to affect
the sports world. But but baseball for now moving forward
(57:22):
with plans and also now they can really focus on
the key thing here, which has health and safety. And
if you're not able to to give the proper bandwidth
to those concerns, UH, then the the unique season and
the entire experiment of playing baseball in the pandemic I
think would would not have a great chance to succeed.
John palm Rossi joining us to Gotlip Show here on
(57:43):
Fox Sports Radio JP um, Okay, so there's there's a
lot of interesting Okay, so there's universal d H. Right, Okay,
you're only going to play against your division or the
same division for um, the the opposite league. Right, So
if you're the AL West, you're only gonna play against
(58:06):
a O West and the n OST Right. I think
they're gonna play in home stadiums with nobody there. Am
I missing anything yet? Well, the latter part is still
to be decided. We saw today a statement from Jim
Crane of the Houston Astros owner and saying that he
hopes to at some point in time play in front
(58:27):
of some fans. Now we don't know when or how many,
but it is I think Doug at this point in
time premature to say that all teams will play before
no fans all season. I think we're we're we're still
in the process now of of seeing what the economic
realities will be and what the health realities more importantly
(58:49):
will be, uh for these teams. And I think we're
still a month away from from that decision really happening
for good because we're still a month away from the
regular season starting. Uh. It's it's a great point. So
we don't. We don't know. Um, Okay, it feels like
whoever has the greatest depth of pitching is the most
likely to be successful. Is that a fair? Is that
(59:11):
what most baseball people are thinking? Yes? I think that's fair. Uh.
The Dodgers, interestingly, probably they would have been the best
team in won sixty two and they're probably the best
team in sixty because you think about their rotation Clayton Kershaw,
Walker Bueller, David Price. Uh that they've got some young
guys coming up as well, Uh Bruiser Graderol who they
(59:33):
got in the trade from the Twins, Gonselin Dustin May.
They still have Julio Rias was still a very young
up and coming arms. So they've got the best depth,
and most importantly, they will be able to have Mookie
Betts play for them, which was not obviously assured just
a few short days ago. So I think overall the
Dodgers and their fans that feel pretty good right now.
(59:53):
Uh they do. What about the Yankees? Obviously they went
out and they had the biggest signing in terms of
arms in the off season. Where did they sit in
terms of UH in their their roster for this type
of season? I think the Yankees aren't pretty good shape
as well, and and having Garrett Cole ready will be
huge for them, obviously of a fundamentally different situation for
(01:00:16):
them in comparison to the Dodgers, and that their marquee acquisition,
for it was a long term free agent signing who
knew was going to be part of the organization for
a long time, which is of course the case for
Garrit Cole there in New York. I think overall they
did have some injuries and sprinting spring training. Of course,
Aaron Judge uh had his issues in spring training from
a standpoint of injuries, but the hope is that with
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the additional time to rest, the Judge will will be
more of a factor in the course of the second
half of a normal season, which is the season now
and and so I think overall the Yankees will begin
this season as the likely favorite in the American League.
But I'll mention one team you, Doug, that I think
needs to be paid very close attention to, which is
the Cleveland Indians. The Indians are a team that they
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nearly traded away for Cisco Lindor during the off season.
They didn't. They still have a very very good rotation
right now, and so they will still have lind Or
to begin the season. And then, really interestingly, the trade
deadline is still going to happen, Doug, just a month later.
So August thirty one is the deadline after you've only
played about thirty games. So good luck making a really
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strong termination on your team buy or sell after only
thirty games. It's gonna be one of the more bizarre
and unique trade deadlines in MLB history. They're they're changing
the extra inning rules. Okay, So you start with a
run run second base and how many outs second base?
Nobody out. It's it's the international tiebreaker, Doug, that we
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have seen in uh in in different tournaments in the
in the past, including the World Baseball Classics. It's unique.
So you start run around second base, nobody out and
and basically the whoever ended the last inning. Uh So,
the basically there's gonna be a spot that that will
whoever the batter previous to the ones at the play
to begin the inning is the one of the second base,
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um okay, which means they're going to speed this trying
to get this thing done right. What's the unintended consequences
of it? I don't think there is really any unintended consequence,
because that the consequence is a very very intended one,
which is to make the game end sooner. Do we
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do we envision a scenario where that could happen in
the regular season in the future. I think so, and
frankly does I hope. So. I am not someone that
believes that we've got to play an eighteen inning game
all the way to the end for it to be
a legitimate result for a season. I I'm someone that
believes that you skew the result of the next game
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if you have to make three roster moves because you
had to burn two or three different starting pitchers to
get through an extra inning game during the course of
the season, that is as as to meet distorting as
as the outcome of the game itself. So I'm a
big believer in in letting there be the the extra
ending tiebreaker that we see an international baseball I think
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it's actually good, healthy, and it keeps the games at
a shorter amount of time. And I think the reason
why we're seeing it here is that allows the game
to end sooner, which involves less of a taxing effort
on the pitching staff, but also very crucially gets everybody
out of the ballpark at a reasonable enough hour for
it to be cleaned deep cleaned before the next day,
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which is part of the daily routine now of Major LEAGUEA. Yeah,
it's gonna be really interesting to see, you know about
it's not just it's not just a lot of games
in a short period time. It's a lot of games
short period time, adding in the the need for extra sanitation.
John Paul Morossy joined us MLB network Fox Sports, covering
Major League Baseball, and of course, um, this all comes
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on the heels of like two days ago, I thought
they were going to sign the deal because it would
expand the playoffs, they would have made more money. Instead,
they did not. The players. Uh then you know, chose
kind of the nuclear option, which you know, the commissioner
had to had to use the previous agreement where he
could just start the season. Is it is the grievance
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that valuable to the players? Uh they think so. Uh,
that's the only conclusion that I can reach. Either they
think so, or or they wanted to preserve um uh,
some sort of a stand or a stance that they
wanted to make a very firm position on principle in
relation to MLB's position, and certainly we're all entitled to
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make our own stances based on principle. In this case, though,
I'm not sure I see it really being worth that effort,
because had the players accepted the deal, they would have
gotten more money this year that there would have been
greater salary promises this year, They would have had more
money this year, and they also would have had the
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expanded playoffs, which Doug I can't stress enough. Expanded playoffs
are crucial for everybody because it expands the league's revenues
via media rights and for the players. It will make
more teams feel as though they are close to being
a playoff team, and we have seen time and time
again the single factor that makes teams want to spend
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money the most is believing that they've got a few
more marginal wins to pick up to get into the playoffs.
And by not expanding the playoffs, the players I believe
did themselves a disservice. Now their chances of succeeding in
the grievance. Some analysts have said it's very low. I
am not a lawyer, so it's hard for me to
really gauge on that, but it seems to me that MLB,
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based on the way the March Agreement was written, had
the ability to have a separate conversation about the economic
realities with no fans of the stands, which is what
the case has been and is right now, and they
made multiple offers to that effect. To me, it's hard
to say that MLB have been negotiating in bad faith. Yeah,
I don't. I don't get it, and I know they're
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setting up for that CB a fight in a year,
but I I just think you gotta get back out
in the field and and get to playing games and
build up some equity, because you just they gave away July.
July was the month of baseball, unquestionably the month of baseball.
They gave it away. And I understand, like you're like, hey, look,
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the owners weren't being right, they weren't being fair. Okay,
that's what bosses have intended to do that because they're
looking at the bottom line and they don't want to
they don't want to just hemorrhage money. But you gave
away the month of July. Even this feels like this
deal could have been done a long time ago. I
understand you wouldn't play sixty games a long time ago,
but giving away July does not sit well with so
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many people. Last thing, any idea what this does to
the economy of the sport in terms of contracts like
a Mookie bets in the upcoming off season. Great question, Doug,
And it's really hard to say it at this early juncture.
A lot is gonna depend on the revenues of the
sport this year, where we're at as a country and
economically in the winter. But I think it's safe to
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say that that the forecasts of a four or a
million dollar deal for Mookie, unfortunately for him, and he's
done nothing wrong obviously, it's it's probably not gonna come through,
just based on where we're at and in the overall
UH rollbacks you're seeing in salaries across frankly our our
entire country right now. But I think that's gonna be
one of the more UH one of the more pressing
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questions for everyone will be what does free agency look
like and and how satisfied are the players with the
way the market functions this winter after a season that
is not as lucrative as it probably should have been,
especially as it relates to postseason revenue. So it's a
it's a great question, hard to predict, but it's also
for me difficult to really expect that he's going to
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get every dime that you would have expected he was
going to get a year ago. And and the big
question there, Doug will be this, in these times, do
the Dodgers, as respectfully as they can, at some point
in time in the season, say Mookie, we love you.
This is a crazy time. What about either a one
year extension at at great money or or maybe even
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above market for a shorter term deal that would put
him still in the in the open market eventually. It's
it's a really interesting question to maybe say the time
to get out there and strike the market rather than
signing a ten year deal now at reduced numbers, Do
you sign a really lucrative two year deal and then
take another bite at the apple in a couple of years.
That may be the way that Mookie Betts played. It
might be, but I don't know if he's what would
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he do knowing that there's the the potential for a
lockout or for a strike upcoming in the next offseason.
The off season after that, there's there's so much unknown
there or what the new CBA is gonna look like.
I don't think it would limit his his earnings, but
we we have really no idea. Well like listen, JP,
you got one month to get yourself in shape and
get ready to a lot of games, a lot of talking.
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We appreciate you join us. Dog. I wanted to be
in the best shape of my life by the time
the game started. I'm not quite sure I'll get that,
but I'm surely gonna try. JP. Thanks so much. John
Paul Morosy loves baseball covers baseball is fabulous at both.
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This was Colin Cowherd talking about the real reason the
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Seahawks are pursuing Antonio Brown. I think the San Francisco
forty Niners are so formidable that it is forcing everybody
in their division Seattle, the l A Rams in Arizona
to take big swings when you wake up in the
morning and that division and you at San Francisco, you
see what appears to be the best young coach in
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the NFL, the best tight end in the NFL, the
best defensive line, and most are really really young and
getting better. You have a better than average young franchise
quarterback that could be there for ten years, and the
front office appears to know what they're doing. It's scary.
And so the Rams last year took a big swing
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on Jalen Ramsey, an unhappy player with loads of talent,
wasn't always the greatest teammate, and gave up a bunch
of picks for him. And Arizona bailed on Josh Rose
and and said we're gonna get Kyler Murray, We're gonna
get this college coach. We're gonna go get d Hop
at wide receiver. And now Seattle is saying we're not
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beating them head to head roster wise, Um, I don't
think it's about anybody else's roster other than the Seahawks. Right,
didn't Doug Baldwin retire? That would have like Doug Baldwin's gone.
He was the guy. And you know, look, they were
able to they were able to draft an absolute monster
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outside of the first round, which is great. And I think,
like anybody, like anybody, they appreciate the town of Antonio Brown.
One of the great things about Pete Carroll's He's been
able to have, uh, whether it's Michael Bennett or Earl
Thomas or Richard Sherman. And like I want to make
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sure I point this out, Richard Sherman has never been
in any sort of trouble, Okay, So I'm not correlating
the off the field troubles of Antonio Brown to Richard Sherman.
But Richard Sherman was a handful because of the the
bombastic way in which he handled his business, the fact
he did he only talked to talk. He walked the walk,
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but he definitely talked to talk. But you know, look,
they've had a lot of outspoken players, They've had a
lot of big personalities, and Pete has a great way
of handling those guys. And so I think there's I
think it's more they needed to tell stud wide receiver
he's available. You can get him on the cheap, and
he can handle him. That that's really it. Like the
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Ravens are a great organization. They wouldn't add him just
because of something the Steelers are doing, or the Browns
are doing, or the Bengals are doing. They ad him
because it's a great, great piece that they can get
on the cheap. The the issue is, there's enough other
teams that have passed, there's enough other legal issues. He's
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already been essentially run out of Pittsburgh, run out of Oakland,
and now run out of New England. No matter how
much they want him, everyone feels like he's going to
be suspended once he's clear to come back and play.
And so with all that in mind, a lot of
teams are just like and he's probably on a bunch
of other teams. Seattle is the one team that's had
those type of personalities and been able to make it
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work in the past. Good. It really does make some
it doesn't make some sense. Uh, doug out the show
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Limitations apply, limitations apply. Um, we're in the waning kind
of weeks here, like now we're now, we're getting to
the point. Do you guys remember it was? It's usually
like August, last weekend in August where you basically tell
your wife or girlfriend or mom, Hey, whatever you need
me to do, ask me now, because once we get
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to pass Labor Day, don't ask me for nothing on Saturday,
and don't ask me for nothing on Sunday, maybe Sunday.
Look at your East Coast, you got Sunday up until
eleven or twelve o'clock. Right, it's worse than the West Coast.
You got me till ten ten o'clock. I'm on Red
Zone channel, okay, and maybe I can get in the
back end if I'm not in the Sunday night game.
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That's where I feel like we are with sports. We're right,
we're on that. We're on that precipist we're on these
last couple of days. You know, if you're gonna get married,
get married now. You want me to attend get married now?
Don't get married and now you can get married in August,
Like yeah, Hot Plus got games on TV. Games on TV. UM,
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I will say that one thing that's that's legitimately interesting.
You know, Look, do I think basketball loses its personality
being played in empty arena? Yes? Have you seen what
and of you guys seen what they've done in Israel?
Maccabi Tel Aviv is the best team in Israel, and
so for their home games, they've actually brought in brought
down these big giant monitors and they they put on
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the screen fans, so when you're watching the game, it
looks like there's fans and it sounds like there's fans
in the arena. They've done that. You can't do that
world of sports, I don't believe, although maybe they can,
you know, and in in you know, you got a
month to find those types of big screens or whatever
they're called that that you can use. I actually think
baseball playing in these parks it'll be cool because you
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see him. But baseball is about the park, is about
the It's really about the experience of the day more
so than just the game. And this is gonna be
crushing towards crushing towards h all right, coming up next,
I do have some thoughts for you on baseball. It's
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so baseball agreed, to have a season, all right, So
this upcoming hour we'll talk about baseballiste game season. We'll
talk a little b about Bubba Wallace, who, man, did
he back He back pedaled really really quickly because he
was he was bowing up and clenching up fist last
night on CNN and even earlier today when he said
he was, he say ticked off or you say the
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P word. Think we'll go ticked off on and Patrick,
he took a breath and looked around. And then I
want to get in on Avery brad a little little bit,
trying to play both sides of the deal. And Avery Bradley,
along with some others, not going to attend the Orlando bubble.
And I have not. I've been an opponent of the
Orlando Bubble. I feel like it's a dated idea and
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one that won't bring out the best in players. But
not think not maybe a true champion. It's just a
weird field that said they're gonna have it. And Avery Bradley,
l a Lakers defensive stopper, three point sniper, is not
going to make the trip. So we got Avery Bradley,
Bubble Wallace, and my thoughts on Major League baseball season
up coming next to The Doug Gotlip Show. Be sure
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. What Up,
Tug Godlip Show, Box Sports Radio, Do do do? Uh?
We got news story I want to get to. So
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you know what's Here's what college sports is, right. College
sports is the ability to recruit and motivate young men, uh,
keep them you know, in lines, so to speak, in
terms of like, look, it's college. There's a lot of
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you know, there's a lot of distractions, and you gotta
get guys focused on the sport at hand, football or basketball.
For consideration of this discussion, you gotta be able to
deal with the athletic director. Uh. You have to be
able to deal with boosters. You gotta have. You gotta
hire really good people around you because there's a ton
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of there's a lot of players, a lot of different
things that you gotta do. But it's about motivating guys,
staying organized, hiring good coaches, and coaching what you know
and hiring guys that coach what you do. Not coaching
in the NFL. It's it's a lot like coaching in
the NBA. It's not as much about the XS and
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ohs kay, it's about can you command the respect of
the guys in that room. Like look, that's We talk
all the time about arm strength with Joe Burrow, but
Joe Burrow's arm strength is a very It's probably fifth
or six in regards to what's most important most important
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for a quarterback. You know, the ability to process, that's
probably the most important. You've gotta have pocket athleticism at least. Um, Yes,
you need to have arm strength, but you also have
a quick release, and you've got to be accurate and
oh yeah, by the way, you've got to be able
to stand in front of forty six guys on game
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day and make them believe, or at least ten other
guys on a game winning drive and make them believe.
That's the same thing with with coaching. This from um
the New York Daily News Minish Meta, who does have
He's widely known as the guy with the best sources
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with the New York Jets. Uh, it appears things have
taken a turn for the worst New York since Jets
All pro safety Jamal Adams requested trade from the team.
One person may have a lot to do with it.
According to Minichhe Meta, Adam Gaze is a major factor
in why Adams has requested a trade. Sure, that's not ideal.
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The piece goes on, but according to Meta Get the
Gaze saga gets even worse. The Jets coach apparently isn't
respected in the locker room. To this point, the ongoing
dispute between Adams and the Jets has has resolved around
New York's lack of urgency to give the twenty four
year old his extension. So the latest report from Met
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certainly is interesting. Man Schmanta said Adam Gaze major factors
of why all pro Jamal Adams felt it's felt uncomfortable
with his long term future with the Jets and requested
a trade. Jamaldam's is not alone his feelings towards Adam Gaze.
Gaze is not respecting the locker room. Now, we don't
know if it's two guys or three guys for four guys.
It should be pointed out that the Jets are not
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only kind a bit of a dysfunctional mess. They did
finish seven and two. Adam Gaze is an offensive guy.
I'm guessing he spends a ton of time in the
meeting's room, meeting rooms with Sam Donald, especially when Donald
was out and came back from having mono nucleosis. You
gotta get the guy up to speed. You spend extra
special time there. Gaze has been a head coach before
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with the Miami Dolphins, and maybe that's part of the
reason he doesn't garner the respect from the locker room
right because one of the hard things about being a
pro football coach or an NBA coaches in order to
get respect from the locker room, you have to have
one before in order to win, you have to have
respect for the lock him. It's to catch twenty two.
But I I always take these things to mean, oh,
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Jamal Atom is not getting his way, so he wants
and he's not getting his contract, so he wants out.
Let's play the coach roim feeling uncomfortable. To be fair,
Adam Gates didn't draft him, wasn't the head coach when
he's drafted. Adam Gays is a little bit quirky, But
that doesn't mean that Adam Gates is gonna be fired.
It feels to me like they'll just search out the
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Mike mccaddn and guys and the guys of the previous
regime guys and they get rid of those guys. I
I do always wonder though, and I have no idea
if Adam Gaston coach. I think he did a good
job with the Dolphins. They couldn't figure out the quarterback,
then they did figure out the quarterback, and then Ryan
Tandell got hurt when once they figured out the quarterback.
I don't know if he's a good, great, whatever coach.
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I I do know that, um, he's very very bright,
and he's actually pretty fun to be around. But I
also know that, like if you don't know him, he
does can put off a weird vibe. And you know,
remember Jamal Adams was in the division they played against
the Dolphins, and he wasn't drafted by Adam Gates. So
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there's a lot more to it than that. My guesses
those players go before Adam Gates goes, although Gates was
very much hanging on for dear life before Sam Donn
returned and then they finished seven and two. All right,
let me give my thoughts on Major League Baseball. What
we have to do now is forget about it. Right.
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Did they lose July? Yep, they lose a bunch of money. Yep.
Do we lose the chance to see an entire season
the mookie bets in a in a dodging uniform. Yep?
But you know what, which you cannot allow that to
consume you. It's like we all and especially baseball, needs
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to go through therapy. This is a hard one, you know.
It's it's one of the reasons that teams don't keep
around players, even if you know in a contract negotiation
you what you're seen as low balling, and a player
holds out and then he the most money he can
get is back from his same team. Right. Take Melvin
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Gordon for example. Melvin Gordon wanted a contract worth thirteen
million dollars per year. The Chargers are willing to give
him ten million dollars per year. Before last season, he
decided to hold out. He held out, He held out.
They did not budge. They told him they weren't gonna budge,
and they didn't budge. He came back, didn't have a
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great year, and I think he ended up signing for
what was a six million a year with the Denver Broncos.
Six millionear with Denver Broncos, and I'm not sure Lindsay's
probably a better all around player, but together they should
be outstanding. He didn't need to spend six million on it.
So he gets he gets a golden parachute from the
Denver Broncos. And so you might ask yourself, well, the
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Chargers want to give him ten. Why did the Chargers
get in there? They could have give him six or
six and a half or seven, and you get the
same player at an absolute bargain basement price. And the
reason is you don't want a guy who thought he
was gonna make thirteen million dollars she was offered ten
million dollars to be walking around making seven million dollars
because he's gonna be ticked the whole time and he's
gonna be blaming your team the whole time. What what
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you don't want in baseball is a bunch of those
type of guys who are just in a bad way
all year because they're not getting paid nearly what they
think or what their contract tells them they should be
getting paid simply because they waited way too long that
you absolutely positively do not want. You have to process
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what happened and understanding we are moving forward. It's what
Bill Belichio. We are onto Cincinnati, so I'm fired up
that the a L and n L West and East
will all be matched up. You're gonna have Mets and
Yankees and Red Sox and Yankees and that's fun, you know,
and Yankees and Phillies, and that n L East, the
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n L Central and a L Central. I mean, the
Brewers are gonna be back playing in the a L again.
That'd be cool. And the n L West NLS will
be fun. Like I really legitimately like it, and I
would enjoy if baseball found a way to make because
it's such a regional sport, to make their matchups more
regent regional, not just for this year that's what they're doing,
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but for years to come. Um, I don't love the
runner at second base for overtime in order to get
overtime extra innings, in order to get get this thing moving.
But every baseball guy I talk to is like, dude,
extratings in baseball is bad for baseball. It just is
you tax too many arms, you last way too long,
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you start screwed up your rotation. Like, let's just get
it over with. There's a hunt. Now, maybe it changes
because there's only sixty. But that's generally been the sense.
I will not look back at the errors of the
MLB owners or the MLB p A. It come to agreement,
they're gonna play baseball. It's at the end of the
month of July. Does it suck that they missed the
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month of July? Shore? Does it suck? We don't have
a full season or even half a season of games
to check out stas Shore, but we'll have baseball, so
let's move forward. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific, Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. All Right, look,
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I'm gonna speak for everybody here. Please stop with making
your argument about the stats with COVID nineteen because I
am not an epidemiologist. Okay, I am not a doctor.
I didn't say to Holiday and Express, and neither are
most of you. Clay, that includes you, Okay, it just
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does um and we we simply have no idea. We
just kind of throw out stats. I saw this story
from Sam Amick, and there is there's a certain amount
of fear with these two NBA teams in cases if
the cases keep spiking in Florida, things are gonna happen.
I'm really concerned for the league big picture wise, in
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many many ways. That's one general manager quote. I'm uncomfortable.
How how can anyone not be? That's a four GM said,
this a lot of uncertainty. All I know that the
proper measures are being taken, but there's still a lot
of unknown you know, I know why we are planned
for the money. If not that do we do? You
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really think we'd be playing? I get it and I'm in.
But with hesitation. On Wednesday, Florida set a new record
with more than five thousand kate and new cases of coronavirus.
It blew past the previous mark of four thousand and
forty nine that record, said June. The state is now
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also well passed one hundred thousand total cases of the coronavirus.
Orlando is experiencing its own spike with COVID nineteen Orange County.
That's in Orange County, Florida, where Orlando is located. It
had just one thousand, five seventy seven case on May sevente,
now cases. Furthermore, the athletic daily positive rate has eclipse
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ten plus for the week, and otherwise the numbers look
really bad, But as I've told you before, it's really
important to understand positive tests did not mean that you're symptomatic.
Symptomatic does not mean you need to be hospitalized, Being
hospitalized does not mean you need um to have ventilator,
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and being an eventilator does not mean that you're going
to die. So I think part of it is we
have to kind of unwind exactly what all of this means.
And what it means is we're probably not going to
school anytime soon, and colleges will probably be out for
the summer, which at least in southern California will be
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super super interesting, um, you know, super super interesting in
terms of what happens with young people, what happens with schooling,
you know, like look part of elementary schools and why
they need to get backing session to have school kids
and his parents got to go back to work. But
what do they do for for daycare if both parents
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are working? It's a lot. I do know that that
some of these stats, Yes, the numbers are going up,
it feels like it's spiking, but the are the hospitalizations,
are the ventilators? Are those numbers going up? And aren't
we more prepared now for the number of ventilators needed.
All right, let's get you a quick updateds Brian Finlan,
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pig you backing off what you said. I think people
are really acting emotionally before looking at the facts, like
you said, looking at the numbers, and if they can
back off and think more of a big picture, they
can realize and put everything into perspective. You you heard
about what Doug was talking about with Jets defensive back
Jamal Adams wanting out of New York, and now we're
hearing from the New York Daily News about more on
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the motives for why Adams wants to leave. Adams cannot
stand his head coach Adam gaze and Gaze is quote
not respected in the locker room end quote. According to ESPN,
the NFL has a conference call slated for tomorrow where
they will update team motors on operating during the COVID
nineteen situation and how to safely reopen facilities. The call
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will also spotlight the league's response to the growing social
justice movements. Sports Business Journal reporting the NFL will designate
the first six to eight rows of their stadiums this
season with ad space. This decision will curb the economic
hit the pandemic will have on the league and give
players a buffer from the fans in order to reduce
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any possible transmission of the virus. ESPN is noting Jets
defensive lineman Quinnin Williams has his court appearance moved to July.
Coronavirus postponed his original court date. In March, he was
arrested after trying to take a gun on a plane
at Laguardi And finally, Brooks Kepka and Graham McDowell withdrawing
(01:31:42):
from this week's Travelers Championship after both of their caddies
tested positive for coronavirus. Also, Web Simpson is out after
a relative of his came down with the virus, and
commissioner of the PGJ Tour says, quote, we need to
learn to live with this virus. It's not going anywhere.
End quote. Doug back to you, Doug got the show
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Brian Billick want a super Bowl as the head coach
of the Baltimore Ravens. Now he's our coach, man, he joins.
When he joins us, we learned so much. Uh, Coach Billick,
thanks so much for joining us. Um, how difficult would
(01:32:27):
you You had an unbelievable level of preparatics, whether it's
on the radio or on TV and the NFL network.
Of course, going back to your day's offense. According to
your coach, one of the things that you are known
as the guy who really really prepared for meetings, for practices,
and obviously for games. How much would it throw you
off the inability to be face to face with all
(01:32:49):
of your players as we get worked towards July. Yeah.
I mean, it's just obviously just the fact that it
is so unique, and the fact that coaches have to
have not one, not too but probably four and five
different practice scenarios and schedule. You talk about, you know,
my focus on schedule and preparation. I can't imagine how
(01:33:11):
many different variations you have to go through. If Okay,
camp is gonna be normal, we'll play the preseason games. No,
it will be longer, fewer preseason games. No preseason games. Uh, No,
We're gonna report later. No, the season is going to
be later. I mean it's yeah, it's daunting, and and
to have to work through that and compound it, particularly
(01:33:33):
when particularly for your other players and the rookies, that's
the one that you really kind of lament for, because
these guys are going to be coming in and thrown
into the deep part of the pool real quick. Uh.
And and it's sink or swim. And your biggest fear
as a coach is missing talent in a young player
(01:33:54):
that can maybe help your team, when in fact he's
just not up to snuff yet. He's a good player,
but he just hasn't processed enough yet, and you miss that.
So yeah, this this happens with so many different layers
that I imagine the coaches, you know, you could even
be easily be overwhelmed by it. Okay, so how would
(01:34:14):
you change your offseason plan? I was just reading and
Rappaport he's talking about potentially not having veteran players there
until July. How would you alter your plans for the
early part of the season considering O t S and
so much of the summer work has taken away. Yeah,
I think that's a valid observation that you're gonna need
(01:34:37):
a little more time with your rookies. Typically, as you
go through the O t A the you know, the
rookies really felt like our players were going to get
three indoctrinations to the offense. There's the initial and O
t A S. There's initial part of training camp, where
again you basically install three quarters to the offensive, defense,
(01:34:57):
special teams, and then when uh, the preseason games happened,
you kind of reinstalled based on the game plan, so
they get three waves of it. Well, obviously that first
wave has been disappeared, so I think coaches have to
make up for that. Initially, it can't be a matter
well let's just bring the rookies in with the veterans
and and we'll get them caught up. They're gonna need
(01:35:18):
some time, and so I can see where a coach
would say, let's tell you what, let's hold off on
the veterans coming in. They'll pick this up pretty quickly, unless,
of course, it's a team that has a new coach
in a new system. Now, now you're now it's tough
because now you've got to get those veterans in there
as well. But if you've got an established team, then yeah,
maybe bring the rookies in a little earlier, or let
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them be in camp on their own a little longer
to indoctrinate them to to just how you practice and
how you do things before you bring the veterans in.
Ben Roethlisberger admitted to some some addictions and and overcoming
a lot of things. He's coming off of Tommy John surgery,
claims to be ready, claims to you back throwing the duke. Uh,
(01:36:00):
what are your thoughts on on how you proceed if
you're Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers now that they
have their Hall of Fame quarterback back, but he's coming
off an injury which very few have suffered in the NFL. Well,
you can't. You can't go into any other way. But thinking, Okay,
he's either ready or is not. I mean, if the
doctor said yeah, he is ready to go, and Ben says, yeah,
(01:36:22):
I'm ready to go, you gotta proceed now like any veteran,
particularly an older quarterback, You're gonna be very judicious about
his pitch count anyway, even without the injury during early
training camp and again, and what is the schedule? When
is he going to play? When is the season going
to start. So again, for someone like that, a thirty
eight year old quarterback that is coming off the injury,
(01:36:44):
clearly that's going to take a special set of circumstances.
But by the same token, uh, they've got some challenges.
You know. I was on the NFL network the other
day and saying, well, it is, does a healthy Ben
Roethlisberger make the Pittsburgh Steelers a playoff team? And my
answer was no. But that's not Ben's fault. I mean,
in two thousand uh eighteen, he could go back to
(01:37:05):
the two thousand eighteen numbers and and which were phenomenal.
I mean, he was six seventy five throws and he
was better than six and two to one touchdown interception ratio,
but there were nine six and one didn't make playoffs.
The year before, his numbers weren't quite as good. Good
but not quite as good. But he had monster years
from lady On Bell and Antonio Brown. So the question
(01:37:28):
going to last year was, well, Ken, Ben Roethlisberger, as
he's done so many times, bringing around a different core
of receivers and running back to that same level of productivity,
and we thought we'd see it last year but of
course he got hurt. So now we're gonna have to
see it again, and so that time that he has
to develop. If this were a more veteran group, he
had a you know, a lady on Bell and Antonio
(01:37:50):
Brown and players he was familiar with back with him,
it would be a different formula than Hey, I gotta
get out in practice and I gotta work with these
guys because we got to find that rhythm. They got
to find out how I do things. So it's it's
a lot of moving parts for Ben and the Steelers.
It is uh that that's the voice of Brian Billick,
super Bowl champion, head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. Seem
(01:38:10):
on the NFL Network, kind of spend some time this
here on the Doug Otlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
Tom Brady is out throwing with the guys. There are
some that are criticized. Of course. This is his ability
to get to know all the new players and get
to integrate in the system. Is there. I've heard you
know you talk there's there's a pitch count thought with
some of these older quarterbacks. How do you manage that?
(01:38:31):
If you're Bruce arians He's got to get a volume
of reps with the younger guys with all these new
wide receivers. On the other hand, he is in his
forties and you've got to keep an eye on that
pitch count. How do you monitor that if you're the
head coach. Well, Fortunately he doesn't have to worry about it,
because Tom Brady is such a particular you know, he
has such a unique regiment and as such a focus
(01:38:54):
on his preparation. He will have a plan on this
is how much I need and this is how I'm
gonna do it. So he's just gonna rely on tom
Brady and then wrap the rest of the team, the
rest of the moving parts around him, because no one
knows better what Tom Brady needs going into a season
than Tom Brady. Now, having said that, you're exactly right,
I mean, this is this is uh, you know, as
(01:39:15):
uh Johnny Depp said in in Parts of the Caribbean.
We'd be off the map now because he's never done
this at forty okay, and he may think he knows,
but each experience is a new one even for him.
And yes, does he have to be careful about pushing
himself too far in order to get that integration with
(01:39:35):
his other teammates, so that he leaves himself vulnerable and
runs out of gas or leaves himself vulnerable to injury
because he's pushing himself a little farther than he normally would. Yeah,
he's got to be very aware of that. Um, there's
a story out of New York that Adam Gaze isn't
respected by Jamal Adams or it's one of the reasons
that Jamal Adams wants to be traded and nem and
(01:39:57):
he spent two covers his team said, Yeah, there's there's
multiple players, more than one player that doesn't respect Adam Gazed. Now,
he wasn't there when all those guys are draft. He's
only been there a year. They did recover and finished
seven and two when Donald got back healthy, but he
was in the same division. So I'm sure there's not
buy in from everybody. If you're a head coach and
you hear these stories, how do you go about fixing
(01:40:20):
those relationships? Well, at one player at a time. It's
no one standing up in front of the team and
give one speech and everything's fine. Uh. If indeed that exists,
then you've got to be careful in terms of drawing
too many observations from guys that are in contract situations.
I want to do this and that you know players
are are at times can uh, you know very much
(01:40:43):
fall into the category of the stand up and I
confess he did it mode um and and particularly when
it comes to a head coach. So, but that doesn't
mean those observations aren't real. So as a head coach,
whether whether those observations are public or not, you better
go about on a Ailey basis, on a player by
player basis, developing those relationships that they believe in you,
(01:41:06):
They believe in what you're doing in a system across
the board. Uh. And of course winning certainly cures that
makes it better. But what you're really doing is preparing
yourself for that tough stretch where maybe you aren't winning.
Maybe something's happen that the players now very readily or
want to jump onto that. Well, hey, this is an
our fault. There's something wrong with the head man. Doug
(01:41:27):
Gottlieb show here on Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice
of Brian Billick, super Bowl champion head coach with the
Baltimore Ravens. Um. I'm I'm fascinated by the Jamal Adams deal. Um,
you know, look, he's not Derwin James in terms of versatility,
but he's very, very good at what he does. On
the other hand, he's still under contract with his rookie deal.
(01:41:48):
We're coming up in his fourth year, not even his
fifth year option, and and he wants a new deal. Um,
how do you handle that? If you're the Jets, you know,
it's always a tough one because, yeah, there's love to
reward players uh and and get ahead of the curve
and and maybe get to uh satisfy some cap needs
going forward. But anytime you're renegotiating a deal early part
(01:42:12):
of the problem people have to realize is if you
do it for one, then there's gonna be a line
outside your door with a bunch of other guys going, well, hey,
how about me? What am I chopped liver? And you
can't treat everybody the same, You just can't. Um. Also,
going into a season where you're talking about renegotiations some player,
some players can handle that during the course of a season,
(01:42:33):
some can't. And and so you've got to be very
conscious about how you're dealing with that going you know,
the smart ones are going to look, okay, we're starting
the season this way it is, I'm not talking about
during the season till after the season and and hold
it at arm's land. That's the business side of the NFL.
That's probably the smart thing to do, because if you
if you open the door and say, well, we'll talk
(01:42:54):
about this during the course of the season, then then yeah,
then it's going to be the recurring theme tick talk
day by day from the media and offense. What's going
on house contract is are we close to getting done
that you really don't want to be talking about as
you're getting ready for an opponent. Plus you've got those
other players are going, well, if you're doing this for
this guy, what about me? The the the Chicago Bears
(01:43:16):
want to have an open quarterback competition. Mitch Drabinski has
been there for a couple of years, obviously knows the system.
But so to just dick fools right between head coach
Matt Naggy and John d Philippe. Bo's offensive quit in
your last year. Um, I mean you know you look
Bill Laser, he worked with before as well, so he
knows those guys, he knows that system. Can you legitimately
(01:43:39):
have a quarterback competition in the NFL. No, not particularly
given what we just talked about in terms of the
unique preseason or training camp that we're gonna have. You're
really going to tell the difference between these guys in
practice or in an abbreviated preseason schedule. You know, you
can say that and it all sounds well and good,
but I I don't see it. And and if your
(01:44:02):
game this out, I think Mitchell Trobinsky becomes is the starter.
Because if you if you don't, if you start with
Nick Foles for any number of legitimate reasons and it
doesn't go well, then you gotta go back to Mitchell Trobinsky.
You've got a world problem. Because now it's okay, this
guy who we drafted for our first overall pick, who
(01:44:23):
we've decided is not good enough, hence we brought in
Nick Foles and starting him. Now we have to go
back to this guy. And I gotta stand from my
team and say, okay, we can win with this guy.
That's hard to do. Um. I think if you start
with Mitchell Trobinsky, you know you can go and if
he does not play particularly well early, which you know
could very well happen, then you can go to a
(01:44:44):
Nick Foles and and that scenario seems more logical to me,
easier to sell a team and the players are gonna know,
they're gonna know earlier whether Trabisky is going to be
the guy. But if you go with Foles first, um,
I don't know how you then go back to him,
And yeah, I I completely and totally agree with you.
And that's why, by the way, he Folds is the
(01:45:05):
great guy for this because he's been in both parts
of this situation. He's got plenty of money and I'm
I'm sure he knows and they've communicated to him it's
Mitch is gonna have to lose this job first, and
once he does, then you'll get your opportunity. But you know,
based upon the equity, sweat equity that Mitchell Trubisky has
within those walls, I totally agree with you. Coach Listen.
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My friend? Yeah? Hey, Doug, so you were talking about
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this earlier. Adam Gaze, reportedly, according to The New York
Daily News, is not respected in the Jets locker room
and Doug. The dislike of Adam Gaze has a lot
to do with why Jets defensive back Jamal Adams wants
out of New York. Yeah, if Jamal Adams got a
(01:46:50):
big contract, he'd stay in New York. Can You'll be fine?
So you know, look, Gaze is a quirky guy. Um,
he didn't draft Jamal Adams. His his his defensive and look,
I think part of the thing is Greg Williams can
be a divisive force back there, like Greg Williams can
(01:47:12):
be an US against the world sort of guy. And
I think it's very curious that you know they don't
like that coach the defensive side. One guy is like,
none of this matters. I would guess that he's not
gonna vouch for a guy because Adam Gates probably believes,
like many people in the league, that as good as
(01:47:32):
the safety is, you don't need to give him a
ton of money. Now, you may not ever need to
give him a ton of money. He was against the
Levy on Bell deal and guess what they got rid
of Mike mccagnen um, who signed that deal shortly after
he was signed. So I think gays finishing seven and
two and not he kept his job. But you'll you'll
(01:47:55):
find out who isn't a gaye guy a Gays believer,
because they'll get sent out of town. Jamal Adams notwithstanding,
and it seems Doug that Jamal Adams, according to the
New York Daily News, is not the only one in
the locker room that has these feelings for Adam Gaze.
So we'll see. Look, I like Minnie. She does a
great job. Let's just be honest though, Like you can say,
(01:48:15):
multiple players too, is multiple? Right? There's fifty three dudes too?
Is multiple? So is three? Lots of guys don't like
respect head coaches. That's okay, that's fine. Okay, you're gonna
have to play. Are you gonna get cut? All depends
on is it your best player? Are they leaders? Are
they people that others rally around, or they just guys
that Minie's calling, Like, yeah, I don't like that dude
either too. Here's what we do know, Doug, there will
(01:48:38):
be more. According to University of Tennessee athletic director of
Philip Fulmer than three people at their football games this year,
he's expecting full stadium, seeing more than one one thousand
fans in neelan one excuse me, one hundred thousand fans
of Neilan this Saturday. And he said he's very confident
(01:48:58):
that this will happen Hellion, I have no doubt. If
they opened up the gates and said anybody can come
into an SEC stadium, right now, you get it. The
the issue they're going to have is how many parents
are sending their students there. Let my parents sent us
to now, look, I would probably I have one kid
who's got she's got some respiratory stuff, but my other
(01:49:21):
two I would send their knowing a couple of things. One,
you're gonna get you have healthcare there. But two, to
this point, kids of their age don't seem to be
in dire straits if they contract COVID nineteen. But also
they're not going around. If you're on a college campus,
you're not going back home, You're not going to your like.
That's actually the big thing that I think is curious
(01:49:43):
is we're sending We're gonna send students back home early
and to stay home at Thanksgiving, which is a gateway
to sending COVID nineteen. If they get it on campus
back home, that's a mistake. So there's a lot of
issues there, and we just need to catch our breath. Uh.
Most people think of vaccines coming probably in January, and
(01:50:03):
we just keep kicking the can down the road till
then no question about it. Doug And already, according to
bet online, Dot A G the l A Dodgers are
the ones with the best odds to win the twenty
World Series? Are you sold on this? Yeah? Why not? Yeah?
(01:50:23):
I mean why why wouldn't I be? They got a
great roster. I think that not trading Jock Peterson ends
up helping them because now he can d H. You're like, man,
they got a lot of outfielders. Guess what universal d
H problem solved? Um, so you know, I don't think
Houston is going to be nearly as good and why
does that matter? I know they're in the a L.
But remember the Dodgers are gonna play against the a
(01:50:44):
L West and the NLS. That's the only team that
they're only who they're playing against. So uh, you have
A's they're good, Mariners are not. You got the Cheaters,
and you got the Angels and then you got the
n L West like I I yeah, I think the Dodgers.
But but again, a sixty game season is not always
give you a true sense of who the champion is.
(01:51:06):
Neither does the playoffs, so this could be a weird year.
I think the the Washington Nationals would attest to you saying,
what A with a shortened season doesn't really represent how
good they are based upon how bad they were, and
then to to look at the rest of the top
five of these projections, You've got the Yankees and second
according to bet online dot a g third Astros, number
four the Twins, and the fifth team would be the
(01:51:28):
Atlanta Braves. Brooks Kepka along with Graham McDowell also Webb
Simpson are not going to be taking part in the
Travelers Championship this week's PG Tour event. Kepka and McDowell
had caddies that tested positive for COVID nineteen. Simpson had
a relative that tested positive, and so they are trying
to be precautious here and want to limit the spread.
(01:51:52):
You are right, the ramos, you gotta the beds, and
I got a little lot. Okay, okay, fair enough. First
of all, Travis Championship is like is usually a really
fun one in Connecticut, um because the fans, because the
setup of the stadium set up did they do they
(01:52:13):
even put up the stands? Like what do they That
seems like a waste that they just play on an
empty golf course right for now? Yes, yeah, that's gonna
look that's gonna look really random because it is a
very uh I mean, they trick it up and they
make it good, but it's kind of an average golf
course when you don't have the stands to cover some
(01:52:33):
cover up some of it. So that's the interesting party, Like, oh,
that's just a regular old golf course. Um. Look, people
are gonna contract COVID, they're gonna get quarantined, they're gonna
get healthy. The big thing is the limited hospitalization, people
on ventilators and people in in real danger ever getting it,
and keeping the elderly away from this thing. That that
(01:52:55):
seems to be the biggest deal. And and PG Tour
Commissioner j Monahan said, after the news of these withdrawals,
you said, yeah, like you were saying, we are going
to have to live with this virus. It's not going anywhere.
We are going to have positive tests moving forward. It's
how we can work around them and continue to operate. Yeah,
I mean, I think that's that's that's a great way.
(01:53:16):
It's a smart way of looking at It's the reality
of it. It's not going anywhere if you want to
If if you want a COVID free UM sports world,
you're gonna have to wait until we have vaccine. We're
not having a vaccine two thousand twenty totally with you,
Doug back to you, all right, that is Brian was
(01:53:38):
the press. Doug back to you. Okay, day, we'll keep
an eye on that. Our situation, our situation. That that's
the old uh. Ron Franklin. Ron Franklin used to be
super super focused. So when you're when you do a
when you do a game basketball or football or whatever,
(01:53:59):
you have what's called mixed minus. So mixed minus is
what the programming is. And they go to students say
they go to studio out of break and even though
like on TV, it looks perfectly clear, and it's like, uh,
you know Cassid how Arthur or you know Rhese Davis
or or any of the Fox guys whatever, Kirk Menafee
(01:54:19):
throwing it back to you know whatever. It it looks
like perfect in your ear, it's it's a little bit
undelayed and it's a little bit quiet or whatever. And
a lot of the play by play guys like you're
just focused on doing your job. Ron Franklis is Ron
Franklin is famous for this. So there's a little like
there's there's a group of probably thirty or forty of
(01:54:40):
us that know, this kind of imitation where you go
like uh where It's like in Mixed Minus and Ron,
there's a meteor headed for your stadium and it's gonna
blow the entire place to smithereens. And oh yeah, by
the way, you owe a hundred thousand dollars on your Texas. Okay, Dave,
we'll keep an eye on that our situation because nobody
acts he pays attention to Mix Minus. It's a lot
(01:55:02):
like when music is here, right, we don't actually beat
talks in the ear, and we don't pay any attention
to him, any attention to him. But Byron, music are off.
Music is moving into his his his first house right tomorrow, tomorrow,
moving in this first house. What what should we get them?
He's a big wine guy. What's he's a big wine guy?
(01:55:22):
Does anybody he's a red wine guy as well a
cab cabernets telling No, I don't I don't think he's
I don't think he's more low and I don't think
he's um. He's a mail back guy. They throwing out
all these stuff. I have no idea the difference to them.
(01:55:42):
I do know this. I toured a vineyard last year
in Canada. Did did you know that a lot of
people think, uh, the difference in white wine and red
wine is the color of the grapes. There's nothing at
all red grapes, alright, grapes that it has nothing to
do with it. It is the process, the fermenting process
(01:56:04):
of them. And yes, it is the type of grape
that produced the type of wine, but it's not a
green grape that produces the white wine. How about it
drew bled so wine? For right? I drew bled sow wine?
Sounds expensive? How about some you know, how about some
mad dog, about some barefoot? Uh yeah, listen, I mean
(01:56:26):
it is the thought that counts candlesticks also really really good. Um,
all right, so I gotta get a housewarming gift for
for music. It's gonna get it. And he's gonna be
living in sin because he wasn't able to be married. Right,
That wasn't his fault, not his fault, not his fault.
See how that works with St Peter. St Peter, St Peter. Listen,
I know I was living itsin But do you remember
(01:56:47):
two thou twenty COVID nineteen quarantine? Okay, fine, just just
come in, just come. We're still about eighty years away
from that, from that, from that happening. All right, Howard
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