June 2, 2017 • 50 mins
Doug explains why LeBron James is the most dominant player in the NBA for the past decade but why he’s no longer the best player remaining in the Finals. He talks about Penn State school officials being sentenced to prison time and why this is something they will never be able to recover from. Plus, Hall of Famer and Seahawks Radio Analyst Warren Moon joins the show to talk about why Colin Kaepernick didn’t sign with the Seahawks as a back up quarterback.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up Doug gott Leap Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live and direct from the City of Angels.
What a night I was able to have thanks to
some great friends. What an incredible night. Kevin Durant and
the Golden State Warriors had remarkable energy at Oracle Arena.
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And while we shouldn't freak out about one blowout, since
there were six essential blowouts last year, it feels like
this is freak out worthy. Good afternoon, Tia, Good day
to you wherever you listen to the show, however you're
ingesting it, uh, whether it's the I Heart app Series,
XAM Channel eighty three, Fox Sports, Rader dot Com, of
course our hundreds of affiliates nationwide. This is the Doug
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Gotlip Show. Let me give the phone number, because I
actually want your opinion. I don't usually all normally sometimes
don't want I kind of want your opinion today. I
want to give you a chance to react. It's really
really hard to prognosta, Kate when we haven't seen something
play out right. It's really hard to go like, why
I think this? And and I'll be honest with you.
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We miss things when we proagnosticate, Like I feel like
I missed something really really big. Get to that in
a second. But you've seen one game, are you ready
to call it? Or does with history as your guide,
do you want to take a deep breath? Eight seven
seven eight seven seven six three six nine. If you
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do the spell out thing, it's eight seven seven nine
on Fox last night was about Kevin Durant. A matter
of fact, maybe this series is about Kevin Durant, right
have it? Isn't that what we've we've done, We've made
this and either affirmation of the right decision or why
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possibly this becomes the proof that Kevin Durant can't play
or can't win at this high level. Sometimes we oversimplify things,
but sometimes we over complicate things. The Warriors are different
than they were last year. They are comprised differently. Bogan
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and Jaja Pashulia are different. But you could say the
same thing with Chevelle McGhee off the bench. You could
say the same thing um with some of their other
bench players being different. But where they're the same is
at their absolute peak with their best lineup. Draymond Green
is the center, Andrew Goudala is one forward. Steph Curry's
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the point guard, Clay Thompson, and now you add Kevin
Durant and you take out Harrison Barnes. It seems as
though if we just simplify it, that's a better death
lineup than the one we saw last year, is it? None?
But we were supposed to use this says, well, we've
seen Durant big moments and when I've told you, and
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this goes back to the my previous employer, which is, hey,
look he said basketball decision and he meant it. And
so much of what makes a player is not just
who he is, but who surrounds us. That's the same
in my job, it's the same in your job. You know,
quarterbacks will tell you. In the National Football League, unless
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you have somebody that can take the top off a defense,
everything gets the windows get much tighter, get much tighter,
unless you have a star wide receiver that demands a
double team. Now, the sudden safeties can be in help
on both sides. If you can't run the football, well,
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they don't have to commit an eighth man to the box. Like,
all of these things are important, and the more weaponry
you have, the better some of the ancillary parts. Look
last night, I thought there's an affirmation of Kevin Durant
not just making the right decision, but being the best
player in the NBA. I said it, the best player
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in the NBA. While he's not a lights out defender,
he's a better defender than he has probably ever been
in his career. While he's not a prolific rebounder, he's
rebounding at a better rate than he has at any
point in his career. While he's not some go to
rim protecting shop blocker, he's blocking Moore shots and he
has at any point in his career. And that's just
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on the weaker side of the floor, of the defensive
side of the floor. On offense, he's an incredible weapon
with the ball, without the ball, from three, in the
post and in transition. And the only difference between this
year and last year is that we won the matchup
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and to the fact that now he has space so
that if he goes by his guy, if he abuses
his I, there's a there's a half second longer for
him to pull up or get into his move or
decided to make a pass that didn't previously exist because
he was going against two players oftentimes as the Thunder
played four on five or three on five on offense.
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You don't want to take my word for it. Listen
to Lebron James. You take uh, one of the best
teams that we had ever assembled last year. You know
that we saw it in the regular season and in
the postseason, you know, and then you know an off
season you add a high powered offensive town like that
and a great basketball i Q like that. You know,
that's what stands out. I mean, it's no, it's no
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I fans or butts. I mean, it's it is what
it is. And you know, we got to figure out
how to uh, you know, how to combat that, you know,
which is gonna be a tough challenge for us. It's
gonna be a tough challenge for them. Now, I'm not
willing to call the series over. I'm not willing to
you know, say, hey, if your Cavaliers fans don't buy
green bananas. But I do think that at the heart
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of it, there is a massive mismatch problem at that position,
because what are your options, Like, what are your options
if you're the uh, if you're the Cleveland Cavaliers, you
can't could your guard him with Kyrie Irving? I guess
you could, but you would wear Kyrie Irving out as
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Kyrie got worn out last night chasing around Steph Curry
and chasing around Clay Thompson. Could you guard him with
j R. Smith? I guess you could, but he's so
much taller than j R. Smith. What can j R.
Smith do to disrupt him when he's shoting the basketball?
Not much? Could you guard him with Lebron James? Sure,
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but again that we're out factor, tell me who the
second best option outside of Lebron is to guard Kevin Durant.
And then, if you're going to commit to help, now,
the sudden Golden States passing Golden States shooting Golden States
skill kind of takes over. I went to the game
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really fortunate of a great friend who was able to
do me a solid. I invited some of my Fox brethren,
and ah I got. I just had an incredible night,
an incredible night. And when I was when I was
sitting there, I was watching I've I've seen Michael Jordan
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played live. I've seen le Bron James play live. I've
never seen a guy that tall, that agile, that's skilled.
I it's when Kevin Garnett first came into league. I
played against Kevin Garnett in a high school all star
game in which he missed was the Magic's Roundball Classic.
When he missed the whole week because he was studying
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for his s a t reason he went straight to
the pros. He didn't pass or get it. It It would
have been a property, and so he went straight to
the pros. But when he showed up the day before
the game for practice, and this was a all star
game with Sharif abdur raheem a one and done player.
Stephon Marbury, Vince Carter, Ron Mercer, like you kind of
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go through the list, Robert Trailer, late Robert Trailer, there
was some dudes there. He was and he was markedly
better than anybody else on the court at eighteen years old.
He was. He was just better. But even Kevin Garnett,
though his skill was at a higher level than a
seven footer we had previously seen. Then you take it
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yet a step further and there's Kevin Durant. I did
Rihanna's talking trash to him. He's hitting buckets and and
talking back to her. He was completely unfazed by the moment,
completely in rhythm, completely at peace, and anybody who had
thought he'd do too much, he didn't, he'd do too
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little and be too passive. He didn't. In in a
week or two weeks in which we've started to proclaim
Lebron Jay is to be Jordan's like, and some have
put him ahead of Michael Jordan's. Many have put him
right there in competition with Jordans. I still have a
notch below Jordan's. I can tell you unequivocally from a
man who was there, and I feel like I do
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know a thing or two about WoT was the best
player on the floor, the best player on the four,
And I'm not sure what the Calves can do to
solve that problem. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
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Heart Radio app. Welcome to Carlos Boozer, UH, former All
Star in the NBA kind of to spend some time
with us here at NBA, A national champion, champion in
college as well. Uh, Carlos, thanks for taking time. I'm
after watching last night like I'm not willing to call
it like it's a sweep. But boy, I I don't
know how they have an answer for thirty five Like
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that's because the only guy that has the build really
to guard him is Lebron and he can't chase him
around that just wears him out. And other than that,
you're going to like Richard Jefferson and r J was
great ten years ago, but he wanted to retire at
the end of last year. Do you see that being
the problem that ultimately wins this championship for the Warriors? Doug,
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thanks for having me on. But hey, now I'm gonna
tell you last night was the first time that I've
ever seen k D take it to Lebron. You know,
we've I've been used to seeing the other way around.
Lebron don dated k D, and there was a big
difference in um, you know, Lebron being obviously the best
player in the league and then k D, and last
night it seemed the opposite. I'm not saying that Brian
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didn't have a great game. Um he did, you know, points,
fifteen rebound, I think he had eight assists or something
like that, but he also had more turnovers than we've
seen him seeing used to seeing him having ever either.
Um so for Lebron, it was a subpart game and
you never really see someone that Lebron defends outdo him.
That's why at the interview, the first thing you said
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was you know, what were you that's with with about
to State Warriors or whatever, and all you said was
k D That's what's aboupted him, that he was, that
he was great, that he outplayed Lebron. That we don't
ever see that. So, to be quite frank, you know,
Golden State, you know, kick their but pretty good. But
I expect to see a Bettle Lebron, which is crazy
to say that, but I expect to see a Bettle
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Lebron guarding Kevin Durant on Sunday and Game two. I'm
fascinated by it. And maybe more interesting is uh that
they waxed. They waxed the Calves and Clay didn't do
anything like McLay Thompson could not make a shot, Draymond
struggle with his jumper as well. My my guess is
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that the way the Calves can defend the Golden State
Warriors is gonna have to be you make somebody outside
of the Big three beat you right like you you
have to dare Draymond to shoot, you have to dare
Eagy to shoot like they did two years ago. You
gotta not guard Javel, you gotta not guard And they
had some of that, but they weren't They didn't do
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a good enough job of it last night. Is that
probably the best way to because that, to me, last
night was the perfect example of y K D left
Oklahoma City because they respected the other shooters so much.
It gave him space to just be himself. And obviously
we can see how much skill and talent the guy
actually has. I kind of think you got to take
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that away from him. Is that what you would project
to be the game plan heading forward? Oh, that's a
great observation night. I mean, obviously, he he played amazing,
He had space to operate. You know, clearly they were
very Cleveland was very worried about the Golden State where shooters.
You know, that's why even though Clay you know, had
a terrible shot at night. Um, you can't leave him
open because he's also got what do you have, sixty
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points or something like that in the game of the season,
and maybe even more than that. Um, So you can't
just leave him by himself like he's not a threat,
because clearly he is. So my brother gonna say to you,
was Cleveland if there comes to a point in a
series where to a man, you just gotta step up
to the plate. And last night Golden State just took
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us straight to Cleveland. And I'm not used to seeing that,
even though we saw that, you know obviously last year
in the finals as well the first four games, and
then obviously that the tides turned. But at some point
in this series, whether that's now you know, as they're
watching film or preparing for the game too. Um, but
somewhere on the series of Cleveland wants to have a
chance to win. You know, Kyri's gonna have to step
up and guard staff and lock that down if if
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that's possible. Um, Lebron's have to step up and lockdown
KB if that's possible. So you know, these guys have
to step up to a man and stop the man
that's in front of him if I want to have
a chance to win. In my opinion, you can't. You
can't give a team like Golden State dunks and layups
and also give them open three points. You just you
just can't give them. They gave him everything last night.
You gotta take away or lose something. And even though
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Clay didn't play good, like I said, you have to
guard you. No, no, you have right like everybody respect
and like you don't want to be the guy that
leaves Clay open. So he gives you thirty and a
quarter exactly. Uh, he's a He was a gold medalist
in the Olympics, at two time NBA All Stars of
national champion in colleges. Carlos Boozer spent some time this
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year on Fox Sports Radio the day after Game one
of the NBA Finals. Um, here's the thing about Kyrie.
There was some moments in the first half to which
you're like, Wow, I've that guy. Is he just freaky
amount of game I was. I was at the game.
I don't know if you went. He wore out, he
got tired. And I think the level of conditioning that
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he has to have in order to one handle the
ball and make so many plays on offense and then
guards Steph or Clay on defense. I thought that was
a bit of a problem last night. How do you
adjust that? How do you how do you You're like,
I agree with you, like to win it he's gonna
have to take over while taking staff out of his game.
But how do you do that considering so many of
these guys get worn out if they those big minutes. Yeah,
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I think part of that also, I mean that's a great,
great observation too. I think part of that is also,
you know, you gotta that's why it's the team sport.
You know, obviously, you know you got other guys to
step in there, maybe throw a champer on step a
little bit. I remember, throw a couple of different guys
at him, and obviously Baron comes off the advantage, does
a good job, but at the end of the day,
it's still gonna come down to Kydirie Garden them. So, yeah,
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he might be fatigued. But you know, it's like all
the commercials that we see what Scottie Piper doing with
the NBA and other guys doing with the NBA, where
it's like, yeah, you're gonna be triable, you know, hop
hop back. You want the championship, so you don't have
to fight through some of that fatigue because his team
needs him to score. Because even though even though you know,
I love Tristan Thompson, I love with Kevin's doing right
now as far as on the glass, but we need
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to keep from to score more last night if they're
gonna win, I don't think he happened, but he couldn't
score to score more points booze. He couldn't score in
the post. They tried to run post that for him.
He couldn't score on Clay Thompson, couldn't score on a step.
So I mean like like, I like that Kevin Love
can make a jumpshot, but like, you gotta give me
something down low. And Tristan was a complete no show?
Why why was you watch it? Like, look that's where
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you did your your your business? Why why was he
was it? Was it him or was it their defense
and their attention on him? Like what was your assessment
of why Tristan was so ineffective last night? Yeah? I
give it all the cold the state. I mean that
they knew moved at Tristan Thompson. Um it's one of
the premier offensive rebounds and the game that we had today,
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and they definitely did a good job, but focusing on him,
they sent you know, Libvissy McGee. They they had but
two wey are on him. They sent two or three
guys his way just to get him off the glass.
And that's what also freed up Kevin loved to get
the twenty one rebounds that he got. He got more
offensive remounds and he's normally getting because they focused so
much on Tristan. So it's given to take a little bit.
But um, and to go back to the point you
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just made, Clay may not have made any shots last night,
but I saw a crazy stat somewhere on on on
online last night where I think Cleveland was like one
for fourteen or one for fifteen or one for something
going on one against Clay. So defensively he showed up.
I may haven't made that many shots last night, but
he contributed their victory, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes,
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like you said about about about Kyrie, sometimes putting the
effort for it on defense can affect your offense a
little bit. But they're gonna need Kylie to do both. Yeah, No,
I agree with you. I was watching he was guarding
Kyrie and and it did. It wore him out. I
just I'm concerned if I'm the Calves that at some
point Clay Thompson is going to hit some of those
jump shots and when he does it just becomes like
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an avalanche. You feel like there will be there will
be one game. Um, how hard is it for you?
Like I saw David West and he looked a little hesitant.
Lest there's a couple of times you wide open, like, dude,
David West eighteen feet away, that's your office. You have.
Darren Williams comes out the bench like these are you
had this? What you were a superstar player at one
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point in time in the NBA and then as you
kind of get into your thirties. Now, guys that stay
in the league, they got to play these bit rules.
How hard is that to be? And I know they
spent the whole year evolving into these roles, but how
difficult is that to kind of get your motor running
in short order make shots when for your entire basketball
life you've always been a twenty to thirty shot a game. Guy.
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I'm just wondering from your perspective being a long time pro. No,
it's it's definitely a destment period. You know, we're used
to being, uh, one of the main options on the
team and now you're coming in from maybe five minutes,
maybe ten minutes, you know, um, to get to get
to get going to help the team out. But that's
kind of a that's kind of a progression as you
as you play you know, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
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years unless your Kobe Brant and again you can play twenty,
you know. So at the end of the day, that's
that's your role. So I hope figure it out though.
And I think David has been a great player, great
great pro for a long time. Uh what has been
a very good player and a great player for a
long time as well. So and he's actually been playing
very well. I thought you played great inn in the
Eutern Conference finals. So those guys will find their spots
to to to be effective offensively. But they also they
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do more than just shoot the ball though. They're also
good rebounders, are good defenders. David West is a great
pastor obviously d Willison the best plants you've had in
the league um over the years, especially when he was younger.
So at the end of the day, they'll find their
pockets to help the team win. All right. So you've
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You guys can go U get your get your your
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different cities. You know, I grew up in Uni, Alaska.
I will go to Sica and I would bring my
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Dreamer sleeping bag that had Michael Jordan on it, or
or you know, Karl Malone on it, or you know
Shaquille O'Neal, So I had a regular blue one. Yeah,
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my son has I gotta get one for my son,
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probably a step He he's got a big he's got
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planning on this June second, big sleepover, big blowout sleepover. Uh.
He's super excited about I love. And then the best
is like the there's all different sorts of ages. At
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they're just the next day, they're just hurt. They feel terrible,
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their breath is bad, they're cranky, they're grouchy, Like, all right,
so you did it. How do you feel about? Like
that was a terrible idea, But it is a it
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This is great stuff. Fall on Twitter at Mr c Booze.
Of course you can go to active Dreamers dot com
and check out those pillow heads. Carlos, thanks so much
for spending some time with us again on Fox Sports Radio.
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Not any time alright, Carlos Boozer, two time All Star
course of former Olympian as well. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific. Three former Penn State
officials are getting jail time for familing report at convicted
sexual predator Jerry Sandusky to authorities. Former Penn State President
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Graham Spaniard former Vice President Gary Schultz will spend two
months in jail. Former athletic director Tim Curley will spent
three months in jail. The rest of their sentences will
be served in her house arrest. Spaniard received a sentence
of four to twelve months, plans to appeal. Curly seven
to twenty three months, Schultz six to twenty three months.
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Sentencing guidelines had called up called for up to a
year in prison. They're not gonna They'll serve very little time,
if any um, the judge Judge Bob Judge John Baba
Boca Bella said why Mr Sandusky was allowed to continue
to the Penn State uh to the Penn State facilities
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beyond me. All three ignored the opportunity to put an
end to Sandusky's crime when they had a chance to
do so. My hypotheses on the Jerry Sandusky thing is
very very simple. Things make sense right in. I mean,
there's early accusations of sexual misconduct and apparently there were
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some even going back previous to it. But the year
prior to when he was when he resigned from his job,
there was an investigation into Jerry Sandusky. When there's an investigation,
and that's I'm not talking about the two thousand one investigation,
which was two thousand one was the one that the
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late Joe Paterno said, well, well, you know, I I
chicked it upstairs. I sent it upstairs. I did what
I was supposed to do when somebody was alleged to
have walked in on Sandusky with a boy in the
showers at at Penn State's football facilities. Several years prior
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to that, there was an investigation with in the Jerry
Sandusky on a college campus the size of Penn State,
size the town of State College, with the power of
Penn State football. Based on my years of both playing
in college athletics, my brother and father working in college athletics,
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and over fifteen years covering college athletics, I can tell
you unequivocally that and forgive the expression if they if
you fart on campus, they smell it in the in
the football office. That's what we used to say in basketball.
You fart on campus, they smell on the basketball office.
Joe Praturner was the most popular and powerful person in
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that town. Frankly, in many ways in that state, but
especially in that part of the state. If they're investigating
the defensive coordinator from Penn State's football team for child abuse,
for child molestation, of course he knew. And then one
year later he summarily resigns. I was born at night,
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not last night. They found out and they said, hey, dude,
and they went to Sandusky and said, you gotta what
are you gonna do? This is a problem. And Sandusky,
you're if you're a pedophile and you're able to get
away with it for as long as he was able
to get away with it. In addition to being a pedophile,
you're also a liar, and probably a pretty good one.
You're living a double life right like he was, as
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he had a foundation for at risk kids and then
he was molesting these at risk kids. You only get
away with that if you're not just a liar, but
a convincing liar. So what's most likely to have happened?
They found out he tried to talk his way out
of it. They said, look, you're just gonna have to resign.
He resigns, They allow him to stay around state college.
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He convinces them that this is just one, you know,
one kid making up a story. And then by two
thousand one, when it becomes evident that Jerry Sandusky has
a problem, they're already pot committed to Jerry Sandusky. He's
still been around campus for several years after the initial investigation.
So the best that they can do is just managed
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the problem instead of by their estimation at the time,
it was probably managed the problem. Otherwise they're guilty of
a cover up. Bocabella also is the judge criticized the
actions of Joe Paterno, who, like other administrators, failed to
alert child welfare authorities or police to the two thousand
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one campaign. He said, Paterno could have made a phone
call without so much as getting his hands dirty. Why
didn't he do it was beyond me. Why didn't he
do it? Because they would ask him, how long have
you known? And the truth was three years. He didn't
do anything. The narrative is that Joe Paterno didn't do
enough right. That's even what they did too much. They
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did too much. Paterno knew and asked them to stop
investigating and to anyone, even Paterno's family. While Joe Paterno's
football teams in many ways lived up. Did you guys
know what the credo was Penn State athletics before this
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any idea, I kid you not so. Tim Curley was
the athletic director. I used to cover Penn State. I
used to get the short straw when I was at
ESPN once a year. My boss got named Dan Stereo
hired me. Bro, Bro, you can do me a solid.
You do a Northwest Terrin Penn State basketball game. The
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way it works in college athletics is, uh, when your
conferences on like ESPN or CBS or now we're getting
the Big Ten now Fox, every conference team has to
be on ESPN once a year in basketball, once a
year in football. And so Penn State was bad in basketball,
Penn State was Northwestern was bad in basketball. So instead
of having them play some good like, let's just put
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it on ESPN too. Somewhere in January, you know, nobody
will know. Like, we'll put it on really early in
the day, like eleven o'clock start. Let's just get two
birds one stone. We don't have to put them on
TV the rest of the year. I did those games.
Their mantra, their motto was success with honor. There is
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no success without honor. We do things the right way
at Penn State, and this was the wrong way. And
they're all going to jail, and they deserve to go
in jail. They deserve to go to jail. But but
to anybody who's I understand that there are guys that
played at Penn State that I feel like this crushes
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so many of the wonderful memories of the football games
and of the brotherhood that they shared to stay college.
I get that, But that statue can never go up
again because what that statue symbolizes to the rest of
us is the story they all knew, and nobody thought
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enough to pick up the phone and said, Hey, we
got a problem here. You gotta get this guy off
a college campus. You've got to get this guy away
from a foundation that's bringing bringing kids around him. He
is bad, bad news, bad news. So the Penn State officials,
former president Graham Spaniard, vice president, Gary Schultz, Tim Curley
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all going to jail, and Jerry Sandusky is sentenced to
a lifetime in hell. Mhm, but a sad story. Fox
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it was just pills like and have you ever, how
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do I getting oxy cotton? Like highly addictive, highly uh
potent um. Those are in fact narcotics, right, Like, we
just have this weird thing where at some point we
were starting to kind of get there or like, oh
weed bad, legalized narcotics? Good? Excuse me? Like would you
(29:38):
rather gout and and look, I don't think you should
smoke a bowl and get behind the wheel of a car.
It's one of the one of the big issues they're
gonna have is marijuana has been decriminalized as legal in
some kind of sit legal in some states is going
to be um, how you manage people smoking and driving,
smoking and working, Like, Look, I don't really like I
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do I think it should be go. I'm more of
a decriminalized sort of guy. On the other hand, do
I want my kids bus driver smoking a bowl and
be like, I gotta go take the kids to school, right,
not so much. They're like, well, you know, uh, if
your stone driving, you're driving slower, Like yeah, your reactions
are sower, Like I don't want somebody stoned driving my
(30:20):
kids bust. You're like, well obviously, well none, obviously, you know,
like how do we manage the d W I driving
or d U I but for weed or four pills?
But like if you asked me, hey, would you rather
a guy be smoking weed or a guy addicted to
weed or a guy addicted to oxy? I would say weed.
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I would say oxy is way stronger, way stronger. You
don't know the strain of my stuff, like it's easy,
but I really don't. And I sometimes videos have to
come out because that's what it looks like, right, the
Ray Rice video, the Joe mix a video like that's
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what violence against women looks like. You need to see it.
You need to see how awful it is. And people
need to see that Tiger Woods video. I need to
see it, not for humiliation of Tiger, but to just understand,
Like you may think, like a doctor prescribed me these pills,
how bad could it be? Like if you take too
many of them, if you get addicted to him, or
if you get behind the wheel of a car, like
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that's it. And I'm like anybody else, like I've taken
stuff where you know I had in college. You have
a doctor goes like, whatever you do, don't knock it
down with a beer. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Right, what
do you do? You're knocking down with the beer and
you're like, man, I don't even remember last week. Oh gosh. Yeah,
there's people, you know, there's um, I know people that
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take ambient Like, dude, you that's the kind of stuff
you gotta have a prescription for. Like, you don't just
pop an ambient because I haven't sleep and slept in
a couple of days, so I'm gonna take an ambient
Like that's not really good idea. Not a doctor, and
you didn't stay at Holliday Express. Yes, music. Two things
on this Tiger. Do you think that there's something much
more to the story that hasn't been uncovered yet. I
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have a friend who works for TMZ and he's sort
of trying to uncover the details because he's convinced that
there's some sort of I don't want to say cover up,
but there's a lot more to the story that hasn't
been revealed yet. And then also just like what's next
for Tiger. Do you think that it's more about just
repairing his image now than it is getting back on
the golf course. Well, I think the only thing that
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repairs his image is getting back in the golf course.
So I just don't know. I have friends in golf.
I have friends that are in Tiger's camp that have
wanted him to shut it down and just say, can't
do it. Do TV do something, you know, do TV
beat beat Tiger Woods, be a you have a foundation,
do those things. I think he needs golf. I think
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he needs another comeback. I think he needs to to
clear that out of his system. And then I've I
have friends that like, look, he actually could come back
from this thing. He actually and if he can come back,
if he can twist his back and not be in pain,
he could be good like people do forget like he
won I don't know what it was five years ago whatever,
Like he won more golf tournaments than anybody one year.
He just didn't win any majors. So, oh eight was
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when everything went bad, right, we're in two thousand seventeen.
You're like, so for nine years, like I think it
was like two thousand thirteen or so, he actually won
more tournaments than anybody's, any other golfer. He just didn't
win majors. Like he has played good golf. He just
hasn't been able to stay healthy. He was a PGA
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Tour Player of the Year, but we've completely forgotten that
because of this story, because of the video, because he
was so he was so out of it. He thought
he was driving from Orange County to San Diego. Like Tiger,
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I Heart Radio app. When you talk to former NBA players,
they don't think the league is particularly good. They think
the league lacks developed players, well rounded players, which brings
us to the discussion, which uh is an offshoot of
an interview which Colin Calherd had with Adam Silver yesterday.
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My senses it's not working for anyone. It's not work.
Certainly from the college coaches and athletic directors. I hear
from They're not happy with the current system, and I
know our teams aren't happy either, in part because they
don't necessarily think that the players are coming into the
league are getting the kind of training, um that they
would expect to see among top draft picks in the league.
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You know, they're just not ready. They're not ready and
and in all honesty, they're also not equipped two train
nineteen year old kids. Um, Ryan, you remember you kind
of you took an interesting path. I was talking about
the possibility of taking the Oklahoma State job and how
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one of the thoughts that I had, which was very
very honest, which was in terms of evaluating players, I
can watch two players play and tell you which one
I like more. But one of the things I have
not done enough in my life is going and evaluate
a sixteen year old and then watch him matriculate to
being in nineteen twenty year old like my brother has
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done that for the last twenty years. And so recruiting
is it's more than just about recruiting. It's about evaluating
where somebody is and where they're gonna end up and
how they're gonna fit into what you want to do.
There's like an art to it. And so my strength
is I know it works in college basketball because no
one studied it or seen more of it than I have. Additionally,
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I believe that I can evaluate college players against one
other because no one's seen a wider swath of of
college players than I have during my time, and so
I would I think I would do a pretty good
job of recruiting transfers and understanding like what a team
would need and how they would need it to which
you said, like, wasn't that a weakness that you wouldn't
be able to recruit, And I said, no, no, it's
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not about recruiting, it's about evaluating. I would allow my
assistance to evaluate. I would do the recruiting, the the
sales if you will, But you also have to be
able to understand when you take a like I'll never
forget when I got to Notre Dame as a freshman,
I was nineteen year old freshman during twenty I was
still only a hundred sixty pounds when I arrived on campus.
I was a hundred and seventy seven pounds by the
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time of my first game. So part of that is
like when you get to campus, like you're it's gonna
be and I had lifted weights before, I had trainer before,
but your body just develops differently during that period of time.
You need people who are It's one of the reasons
I don't like Gunner Peterson being the new strength coach
for the l A l A Lakers. That's Gunner Peterson
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makes Kim Kardashian look great, and he's worked with athletes.
That's that's great. But Brandon gram his success or failure
in the NBA is mostly going to be based upon
two things. His work ethic and how his body is
put together. You need somebody who is an expert in
a nineteen year old and creating an athletic freak of
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nature for years and not screwing up all the other
gifts that he has. That's a specialized skill. And I
think what you can tell me keep their mind. This
about the one and done rule. Players can come right
out of high school and go to the D League.
Go there for a year, they're eligible for the draft.
They make money, they get per diem and believe it
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or not, the salaries next year in the D League.
Some guys in the D League, D League only, we're
making six figures dollars. But they it's not smart to
do it. Twofold one kills your brand? Can anybody tell
me anything about the D League this year? Of course,
not nobody watches minor league basketball. Nobody cares kills your brand,
as opposed to everybody knows Lonzo Ball. Why player U
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c l A played in those big games playing the
n A Tournament. Correct, there's a college basketball has a value.
It's not the players bringing the value is a very
small amount of the value. Most of the values based
upon the brand, based upon the n A Tournament and
the production of CBS, Fox, ESPN, et cetera. Um. But
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the other reason you shouldn't go to the D League
is the D League is a developmental league, not just
for players, but also for coaches. Who is more likely
to develop a player better Roy Williams, Mike Chowski, Bill Self,
Steve prom Brand, McCaffrey, that amount of or one of
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these minor league coaches or an assistant coach in the NBA.
It's a system that's worked for a long time and
we're skipping steps. And yes, it would make Lebron go
to college. It would likely make Heavin Garnett go to college.
I know what they do they'd be dominant college basketball players,
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and then they be lottery picks, and then they'd be
great NBA players because they are that much better. But
it would also create a more competitive college game, and
it will allow players to invest more in their own
personal evolution basketball evolution, learn how to play, learn how
to dominate at their appropriate level before they go and
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try and compete against the best players in the world.
The only people holding this thing back are the agents.
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Warren Moon joins us in The Doug Gollup Show The
Hall of Famer. Um. I mean, like, look, Rihanna is beautiful.
If she wanted whoever, if she cheered for me, I
would be happy. But I just I don't know what
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Lebron's wife thinks about. Like Rihanna front row cheering for
her man. I mean, that's a am I the only
one thinking this, Lauren, his wife Pride just is excited
that Rihanno's cheering for a man. As long as he's
cheering for a man, that's where it stops. I'm with you,
like it sounds good but I don't know. Uh. You
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every time I have you one, you want to talk hoop.
I want to talk football with you, but I can
bury that for a second. What's your takeaway from Game
one last night? Uh? I was a little bit surprised
that Cleveland didn't play with a little bit more aggressiveness
physicalness on on their side of the ball um. Defensively,
I thought they were terrible if they didn't move their feet.
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They looked confused at times, you know, letting guys dribble
the length of the court for slam dunks and everybody's
looking at each other. They looked really totally out of sinks. Defensively,
and then offensively, they just didn't shoot the ball well.
They missed a lot of open shots. You got to
give the Warriors a little bit of credit for that,
but I thought there were enough open shots there for
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Cleveland to make that more of a game. But they've
got to come back and play more physical. They've got
to play better deef fans and get in front of
people and not let the Warriors score as easy as
they did in this in this basketball game. And then
they've got to shoot the ball better. And are we
allowed to at least discuss the possibility that Lebron is
more accomplished and has been better for his career, that
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Kevin Durant is actually the better basketball player right now.
I'll say that when the series is over, Lebron's you know,
he's still at twenty eight points eight eight and eight.
Last night, I think, and and he didn't play his
best game. He missed some shots that he normally made,
so uh, he had a little bit more contest on
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his shots than than than KG did. And uh, I
mean KD did. And I think that you'll see that
stiffing up a little bit more as a series goes along.
I still contend Lebron is the best basketball player in
the world right now. All right, that's at Warren Moon
the Hall of Famer. Why why did the Why did
the Seahawks, who need a backup quarterback, who have an
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athletic both in and out of the pocket starting quarterback,
why in your mind did they not sign Colin Kaepernick.
I don't think Colin Kaepernick wants to be a backup,
and I don't think he wants to play for the
minimum um. I think he came up to Seattle just
to take a look. See and and see what Seattle
was talking about. But I think when it all came
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down to it, that that he wants to look for
an opportunity where he can maybe be a starter, maybe
not walk in and be the starter, but at least
somewhere where he compete to be a starter. And he
can't compete to be a starter in Seattle with Russell
Wilson there. So I never thought it was a good
trip anyway. But Seattle, Seattle looks at every possible opportunity,
and it doesn't have to be for right now. They
could be looking down the road, but at least they
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get a chance to see who Colin Kaepernick is, get
a chance to know him a little bit better from
this visit, and if something happens down the road, and
now they have a better understanding of what they'll be
bringing in. But I never thought it was a good visit,
uh as far as signing him right now as a backup,
because I don't think Colin Kaepernick wants to be a backup.
That that's a that's a fascinating point that I don't
think anybody has made. Uh not, not the point about
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doesn't want to be a backup. He's his campus kind
of denied that, but you make warm Moon joining us
in the Doug Gotlieb Show not only a Hall of
Famer and a broadcaster for Seahawks game, but also somebody
who has counseled and worked with many of these quarterbacks
they come up into the NFL draft while they're in
the in the National Football League. Okay, so is it
Do you think his best opportunity to become a starter
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is meet with people, sit, continue to work, wait till
somebody gets hurt and then and then riding on the
white horse. Or do you think it's fine the right
opportunity where a guy will ultimately lose his job, you know,
either one of those. But I think a lot of
people just want to see where Colin is right now
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in his mind, uh you know, just what he's thinking about,
what his long range plans, how much does he really
love football? How much do the other things off the
field play into who he is right now? And they
get a guy that's gonna be really focused in on
just playing football right now and not some of the
other things that he's interested in. So I think there's
a lot of fact finding missions out there as Colin
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travels around and talks to these different teams so people
can get a better feel for him, because all they've
really seen over this last year is what they saw
on the sidelines and what they heard, you know, from
the San Francisco four and nine his locker room. Now
they're getting a chance to get a field for themselves
by bringing him in and spending some time with him.
Warremon joining us on the Doug Otlip Show on Fox
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Sports Radio. I have heard that a lot about how
much does he love the game? Is that code because
of the protest? Or is it is that only a
portion of that discussion that there's there's more to him
maybe not loving maybe not loving the game, which you know,
so much of that position is about how much you're
willing to just get in there every morning, early in
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the morning, stay till at late at night. How much
of it is the protest and how much of it
is other stuff? See, I think the protest is just
a small part of it. The tests is just something
that happens on Sunday afternoon. But what causes the protests,
it's all the other things that lead up to the protest.
As far as how he feels about you know, how
how African Americans and minorities are treated in their communities.
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How police brutality has uh has a lot to do
with what's going on in our society. All these different
things that he's thinking about that leads up to to
what makes the protest happen. But when you're thinking about
all these different things that he has going on socially,
within the within the community, your mind can't be focused
totally on football all the time. So that's what everybody's
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concern is, how focus is he gonna be because it
takes a lot of focus to be a quarterback in
the National Football League, and your mind can't be all
over the place with all these very important topics that
he's dealing with. When I want to ask you about
this ESPN story about Richard Sherman, about the defense and
about the idea that they still it still bothers them,
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the play calling and the fact that they let one
get away. We all know how hard it is to
win a Super Bowl, but we also know that at
some point you kind of got to build the bridge
and get over it. How accurate as a guy who
covers the team knows Seattle knows the Seahawks so well,
How accurate. Do you believe the narrative to be that
that team that the defense uh still still not happy
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about the result of the Super Bowl three years ago. Well,
I don't think it's the whole defense. I think it
might be one player on that defense, and that one
player is a little bit more vocal than others. But
I think for the majority of the players have gotten
over all of that and have tried to move forward.
But when you have you know, a very vocal flip
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member of your football team that still feels that way,
that voice tends to be heard a lot more. But
from what I've talked to from most of the players,
they've gotten over and they've moved on. But I think
they all have to be able to move on before
they're gonna be able to do what they want to
do going forward as far as winning a championship. You
can't allow that negativity to linger in your locker room
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and within your your football team because it's just going
to tear them apart. So whoever it still has a
problem with that needs to get over it and move
on and past it because there's nothing you can do
about it now. And it's it's just like any tragedy
that happens in your life, whether it's a breakup of
a marriage or a relationship, or a death or whatever
it might be. Somehow you have to move past it
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and and get it behind you and start moving forward
before you can really make things happen in your life.
All right, last thing, Warre Moon the Hall of Famer
kind of to spend a little extra time with us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we all have this
like that, Like, look, you can be a pain in
the ass if you're really really good, right and there's
you know, there's a relationship there, you know, Like if
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you're a backup, we can't have it be a pain.
But if you're a starter in all pro like, all right,
we can put up with something. Have we have we
gotten to? Have the Seahawks gotten to the point where
as talented as Richard Sherman is, he not as dominant
as he's been and some of this other stuff is
distracting to the point where it might be time to
shake hands and part ways, Like are are we to
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that point yet? In your opinions? Well, I think they
were at that point during the offseason. That's where the
Seahawks were looking at other offers from other teams, but
when you have a player of his caliber, it's hard
to find equal value. And I think that's what the
Seahawks problem was, trying to find equal value that they
were to move him, because you're still moving a really
good football player and you want to get something in
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return that's that's equals. So uh, I would rather keep
a guy like that if I'm not going to get
the same type of return in a trade, because he's
still a really good player. And if we can get
him to focus in on just what he's supposed to
be doing on the football team and not the other stuff,
then I think we've got one of the best corners
in the league. If not, it can become a distraction.
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And that's the decision you have to make whether you
want to continue to keep going through this or do
you want to move the player and uh and clean
out your locker room war and great stuff. Man, Listen,
I love having you on. We can talk who, we
can talk football, we can talk whatever you want. Thanks
so much for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio anytime. Doug.
I just hope this series gets a little bit better,
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because I was really looking forward to it and last night.
Really disappointed. Hey, can I ask you one more? I
almost forgot um. You watch a ton of you dub
Husky basketball. I know that Romer's great dude. Also another
Husky sucks to see him fired, but they just they
weren't competitive enough the last couple of years. A lot
of people who haven't watched Marquelle Folks are worried about
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the idea that he might be really talented but he
didn't win games. What's your take on Marquelle Folts and
whether or not he should be the first pick of
the NBA draft. Well, I think that's legitimate. This kid
is very very special. He was on a team last
year that wasn't talented in a lot of areas. And
people have to remember he missed the last so many
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games of the season with an injury himself, but whenever
he played, I tell you what, he was really really special.
I think he was a leading scorer in the FACT twelve,
But the FACT twelve was a very good tougherence year
as well. So if you if you couldn't come and
play because you had Oregon, you had arizonly at U,
c l A, at USC had some really good teams
in the Conference. They lost a lot of close foot
(50:10):
basketball games because they just weren't good. And it's quite
good enough even though they had a great player on
their basketball team, but they were playing against some really
good players as well. Great stuff, Warren, Warren Moon in
the Hall of Famer. Thanks so much, Warren. Okay, take care,
all right, it's Warren Moon, dub Husky NFL Analysts, Hall
of Famer
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What a night I was able to have thanks to
some great friends. What an incredible night. Kevin Durant and
the Golden State Warriors had remarkable energy at Oracle Arena.
(00:25):
And while we shouldn't freak out about one blowout, since
there were six essential blowouts last year, it feels like
this is freak out worthy. Good afternoon, Tia, Good day
to you wherever you listen to the show, however you're
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(00:46):
Gotlip Show. Let me give the phone number, because I
actually want your opinion. I don't usually all normally sometimes
don't want I kind of want your opinion today. I
want to give you a chance to react. It's really
really hard to prognosta, Kate when we haven't seen something
play out right. It's really hard to go like, why
I think this? And and I'll be honest with you.
(01:07):
We miss things when we proagnosticate, Like I feel like
I missed something really really big. Get to that in
a second. But you've seen one game, are you ready
to call it? Or does with history as your guide,
do you want to take a deep breath? Eight seven
seven eight seven seven six three six nine. If you
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do the spell out thing, it's eight seven seven nine
on Fox last night was about Kevin Durant. A matter
of fact, maybe this series is about Kevin Durant, right
have it? Isn't that what we've we've done, We've made
this and either affirmation of the right decision or why
(01:56):
possibly this becomes the proof that Kevin Durant can't play
or can't win at this high level. Sometimes we oversimplify things,
but sometimes we over complicate things. The Warriors are different
than they were last year. They are comprised differently. Bogan
(02:19):
and Jaja Pashulia are different. But you could say the
same thing with Chevelle McGhee off the bench. You could
say the same thing um with some of their other
bench players being different. But where they're the same is
at their absolute peak with their best lineup. Draymond Green
is the center, Andrew Goudala is one forward. Steph Curry's
(02:44):
the point guard, Clay Thompson, and now you add Kevin
Durant and you take out Harrison Barnes. It seems as
though if we just simplify it, that's a better death
lineup than the one we saw last year, is it? None?
But we were supposed to use this says, well, we've
seen Durant big moments and when I've told you, and
(03:04):
this goes back to the my previous employer, which is, hey,
look he said basketball decision and he meant it. And
so much of what makes a player is not just
who he is, but who surrounds us. That's the same
in my job, it's the same in your job. You know,
quarterbacks will tell you. In the National Football League, unless
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you have somebody that can take the top off a defense,
everything gets the windows get much tighter, get much tighter,
unless you have a star wide receiver that demands a
double team. Now, the sudden safeties can be in help
on both sides. If you can't run the football, well,
(03:46):
they don't have to commit an eighth man to the box. Like,
all of these things are important, and the more weaponry
you have, the better some of the ancillary parts. Look
last night, I thought there's an affirmation of Kevin Durant
not just making the right decision, but being the best
player in the NBA. I said it, the best player
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in the NBA. While he's not a lights out defender,
he's a better defender than he has probably ever been
in his career. While he's not a prolific rebounder, he's
rebounding at a better rate than he has at any
point in his career. While he's not some go to
rim protecting shop blocker, he's blocking Moore shots and he
has at any point in his career. And that's just
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on the weaker side of the floor, of the defensive
side of the floor. On offense, he's an incredible weapon
with the ball, without the ball, from three, in the
post and in transition. And the only difference between this
year and last year is that we won the matchup
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and to the fact that now he has space so
that if he goes by his guy, if he abuses
his I, there's a there's a half second longer for
him to pull up or get into his move or
decided to make a pass that didn't previously exist because
he was going against two players oftentimes as the Thunder
played four on five or three on five on offense.
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You don't want to take my word for it. Listen
to Lebron James. You take uh, one of the best
teams that we had ever assembled last year. You know
that we saw it in the regular season and in
the postseason, you know, and then you know an off
season you add a high powered offensive town like that
and a great basketball i Q like that. You know,
that's what stands out. I mean, it's no, it's no
(05:39):
I fans or butts. I mean, it's it is what
it is. And you know, we got to figure out
how to uh, you know, how to combat that, you know,
which is gonna be a tough challenge for us. It's
gonna be a tough challenge for them. Now, I'm not
willing to call the series over. I'm not willing to
you know, say, hey, if your Cavaliers fans don't buy
green bananas. But I do think that at the heart
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of it, there is a massive mismatch problem at that position,
because what are your options, Like, what are your options
if you're the uh, if you're the Cleveland Cavaliers, you
can't could your guard him with Kyrie Irving? I guess
you could, but you would wear Kyrie Irving out as
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Kyrie got worn out last night chasing around Steph Curry
and chasing around Clay Thompson. Could you guard him with
j R. Smith? I guess you could, but he's so
much taller than j R. Smith. What can j R.
Smith do to disrupt him when he's shoting the basketball?
Not much? Could you guard him with Lebron James? Sure,
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but again that we're out factor, tell me who the
second best option outside of Lebron is to guard Kevin Durant.
And then, if you're going to commit to help, now,
the sudden Golden States passing Golden States shooting Golden States
skill kind of takes over. I went to the game
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really fortunate of a great friend who was able to
do me a solid. I invited some of my Fox brethren,
and ah I got. I just had an incredible night,
an incredible night. And when I was when I was
sitting there, I was watching I've I've seen Michael Jordan
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played live. I've seen le Bron James play live. I've
never seen a guy that tall, that agile, that's skilled.
I it's when Kevin Garnett first came into league. I
played against Kevin Garnett in a high school all star
game in which he missed was the Magic's Roundball Classic.
When he missed the whole week because he was studying
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for his s a t reason he went straight to
the pros. He didn't pass or get it. It It would
have been a property, and so he went straight to
the pros. But when he showed up the day before
the game for practice, and this was a all star
game with Sharif abdur raheem a one and done player.
Stephon Marbury, Vince Carter, Ron Mercer, like you kind of
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go through the list, Robert Trailer, late Robert Trailer, there
was some dudes there. He was and he was markedly
better than anybody else on the court at eighteen years old.
He was. He was just better. But even Kevin Garnett,
though his skill was at a higher level than a
seven footer we had previously seen. Then you take it
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yet a step further and there's Kevin Durant. I did
Rihanna's talking trash to him. He's hitting buckets and and
talking back to her. He was completely unfazed by the moment,
completely in rhythm, completely at peace, and anybody who had
thought he'd do too much, he didn't, he'd do too
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little and be too passive. He didn't. In in a
week or two weeks in which we've started to proclaim
Lebron Jay is to be Jordan's like, and some have
put him ahead of Michael Jordan's. Many have put him
right there in competition with Jordans. I still have a
notch below Jordan's. I can tell you unequivocally from a
man who was there, and I feel like I do
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know a thing or two about WoT was the best
player on the floor, the best player on the four,
And I'm not sure what the Calves can do to
solve that problem. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
(09:34):
Heart Radio app. Welcome to Carlos Boozer, UH, former All
Star in the NBA kind of to spend some time
with us here at NBA, A national champion, champion in
college as well. Uh, Carlos, thanks for taking time. I'm
after watching last night like I'm not willing to call
it like it's a sweep. But boy, I I don't
know how they have an answer for thirty five Like
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that's because the only guy that has the build really
to guard him is Lebron and he can't chase him
around that just wears him out. And other than that,
you're going to like Richard Jefferson and r J was
great ten years ago, but he wanted to retire at
the end of last year. Do you see that being
the problem that ultimately wins this championship for the Warriors? Doug,
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thanks for having me on. But hey, now I'm gonna
tell you last night was the first time that I've
ever seen k D take it to Lebron. You know,
we've I've been used to seeing the other way around.
Lebron don dated k D, and there was a big
difference in um, you know, Lebron being obviously the best
player in the league and then k D, and last
night it seemed the opposite. I'm not saying that Brian
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didn't have a great game. Um he did, you know, points,
fifteen rebound, I think he had eight assists or something
like that, but he also had more turnovers than we've
seen him seeing used to seeing him having ever either.
Um so for Lebron, it was a subpart game and
you never really see someone that Lebron defends outdo him.
That's why at the interview, the first thing you said
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was you know, what were you that's with with about
to State Warriors or whatever, and all you said was
k D That's what's aboupted him, that he was, that
he was great, that he outplayed Lebron. That we don't
ever see that. So, to be quite frank, you know,
Golden State, you know, kick their but pretty good. But
I expect to see a Bettle Lebron, which is crazy
to say that, but I expect to see a Bettle
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Lebron guarding Kevin Durant on Sunday and Game two. I'm
fascinated by it. And maybe more interesting is uh that
they waxed. They waxed the Calves and Clay didn't do
anything like McLay Thompson could not make a shot, Draymond
struggle with his jumper as well. My my guess is
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that the way the Calves can defend the Golden State
Warriors is gonna have to be you make somebody outside
of the Big three beat you right like you you
have to dare Draymond to shoot, you have to dare
Eagy to shoot like they did two years ago. You
gotta not guard Javel, you gotta not guard And they
had some of that, but they weren't They didn't do
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a good enough job of it last night. Is that
probably the best way to because that, to me, last
night was the perfect example of y K D left
Oklahoma City because they respected the other shooters so much.
It gave him space to just be himself. And obviously
we can see how much skill and talent the guy
actually has. I kind of think you got to take
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that away from him. Is that what you would project
to be the game plan heading forward? Oh, that's a
great observation night. I mean, obviously, he he played amazing,
He had space to operate. You know, clearly they were
very Cleveland was very worried about the Golden State where shooters.
You know, that's why even though Clay you know, had
a terrible shot at night. Um, you can't leave him
open because he's also got what do you have, sixty
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points or something like that in the game of the season,
and maybe even more than that. Um, So you can't
just leave him by himself like he's not a threat,
because clearly he is. So my brother gonna say to you,
was Cleveland if there comes to a point in a
series where to a man, you just gotta step up
to the plate. And last night Golden State just took
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us straight to Cleveland. And I'm not used to seeing that,
even though we saw that, you know obviously last year
in the finals as well the first four games, and
then obviously that the tides turned. But at some point
in this series, whether that's now you know, as they're
watching film or preparing for the game too. Um, but
somewhere on the series of Cleveland wants to have a
chance to win. You know, Kyri's gonna have to step
up and guard staff and lock that down if if
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that's possible. Um, Lebron's have to step up and lockdown
KB if that's possible. So you know, these guys have
to step up to a man and stop the man
that's in front of him if I want to have
a chance to win. In my opinion, you can't. You
can't give a team like Golden State dunks and layups
and also give them open three points. You just you
just can't give them. They gave him everything last night.
You gotta take away or lose something. And even though
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Clay didn't play good, like I said, you have to
guard you. No, no, you have right like everybody respect
and like you don't want to be the guy that
leaves Clay open. So he gives you thirty and a
quarter exactly. Uh, he's a He was a gold medalist
in the Olympics, at two time NBA All Stars of
national champion in colleges. Carlos Boozer spent some time this
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year on Fox Sports Radio the day after Game one
of the NBA Finals. Um, here's the thing about Kyrie.
There was some moments in the first half to which
you're like, Wow, I've that guy. Is he just freaky
amount of game I was. I was at the game.
I don't know if you went. He wore out, he
got tired. And I think the level of conditioning that
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he has to have in order to one handle the
ball and make so many plays on offense and then
guards Steph or Clay on defense. I thought that was
a bit of a problem last night. How do you
adjust that? How do you how do you You're like,
I agree with you, like to win it he's gonna
have to take over while taking staff out of his game.
But how do you do that considering so many of
these guys get worn out if they those big minutes. Yeah,
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I think part of that also, I mean that's a great,
great observation too. I think part of that is also,
you know, you gotta that's why it's the team sport.
You know, obviously, you know you got other guys to
step in there, maybe throw a champer on step a
little bit. I remember, throw a couple of different guys
at him, and obviously Baron comes off the advantage, does
a good job, but at the end of the day,
it's still gonna come down to Kydirie Garden them. So, yeah,
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he might be fatigued. But you know, it's like all
the commercials that we see what Scottie Piper doing with
the NBA and other guys doing with the NBA, where
it's like, yeah, you're gonna be triable, you know, hop
hop back. You want the championship, so you don't have
to fight through some of that fatigue because his team
needs him to score. Because even though even though you know,
I love Tristan Thompson, I love with Kevin's doing right
now as far as on the glass, but we need
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to keep from to score more last night if they're
gonna win, I don't think he happened, but he couldn't
score to score more points booze. He couldn't score in
the post. They tried to run post that for him.
He couldn't score on Clay Thompson, couldn't score on a step.
So I mean like like, I like that Kevin Love
can make a jumpshot, but like, you gotta give me
something down low. And Tristan was a complete no show?
Why why was you watch it? Like, look that's where
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you did your your your business? Why why was he
was it? Was it him or was it their defense
and their attention on him? Like what was your assessment
of why Tristan was so ineffective last night? Yeah? I
give it all the cold the state. I mean that
they knew moved at Tristan Thompson. Um it's one of
the premier offensive rebounds and the game that we had today,
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and they definitely did a good job, but focusing on him,
they sent you know, Libvissy McGee. They they had but
two wey are on him. They sent two or three
guys his way just to get him off the glass.
And that's what also freed up Kevin loved to get
the twenty one rebounds that he got. He got more
offensive remounds and he's normally getting because they focused so
much on Tristan. So it's given to take a little bit.
But um, and to go back to the point you
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just made, Clay may not have made any shots last night,
but I saw a crazy stat somewhere on on on
online last night where I think Cleveland was like one
for fourteen or one for fifteen or one for something
going on one against Clay. So defensively he showed up.
I may haven't made that many shots last night, but
he contributed their victory, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes,
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like you said about about about Kyrie, sometimes putting the
effort for it on defense can affect your offense a
little bit. But they're gonna need Kylie to do both. Yeah, No,
I agree with you. I was watching he was guarding
Kyrie and and it did. It wore him out. I
just I'm concerned if I'm the Calves that at some
point Clay Thompson is going to hit some of those
jump shots and when he does it just becomes like
(17:29):
an avalanche. You feel like there will be there will
be one game. Um, how hard is it for you?
Like I saw David West and he looked a little hesitant.
Lest there's a couple of times you wide open, like, dude,
David West eighteen feet away, that's your office. You have.
Darren Williams comes out the bench like these are you
had this? What you were a superstar player at one
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point in time in the NBA and then as you
kind of get into your thirties. Now, guys that stay
in the league, they got to play these bit rules.
How hard is that to be? And I know they
spent the whole year evolving into these roles, but how
difficult is that to kind of get your motor running
in short order make shots when for your entire basketball
life you've always been a twenty to thirty shot a game. Guy.
(18:13):
I'm just wondering from your perspective being a long time pro. No,
it's it's definitely a destment period. You know, we're used
to being, uh, one of the main options on the
team and now you're coming in from maybe five minutes,
maybe ten minutes, you know, um, to get to get
to get going to help the team out. But that's
kind of a that's kind of a progression as you
as you play you know, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
(18:36):
years unless your Kobe Brant and again you can play twenty,
you know. So at the end of the day, that's
that's your role. So I hope figure it out though.
And I think David has been a great player, great
great pro for a long time. Uh what has been
a very good player and a great player for a
long time as well. So and he's actually been playing
very well. I thought you played great inn in the
Eutern Conference finals. So those guys will find their spots
to to to be effective offensively. But they also they
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do more than just shoot the ball though. They're also
good rebounders, are good defenders. David West is a great
pastor obviously d Willison the best plants you've had in
the league um over the years, especially when he was younger.
So at the end of the day, they'll find their
pockets to help the team win. All right. So you've
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you a big sleepover kid? Yeah? Man, I mean that's
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I will go to Sica and I would bring my
sleeping back with him. But I didn't have an Active
Dreamer sleeping bag that had Michael Jordan on it, or
or you know, Karl Malone on it, or you know
Shaquille O'Neal, So I had a regular blue one. Yeah,
at least that's why you can actually dream hang out
with one, you know, one year idols. No, my my
my son has I gotta get one for my son,
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probably a step He he's got a big he's got
a big sleepover tonight. He and his buddies have been
planning on this June second, big sleepover, big blowout sleepover. Uh.
He's super excited about I love. And then the best
is like the there's all different sorts of ages. At
some point though, everybody does the I want to try
and stay up all night and that's just and then
they're just the next day, they're just hurt. They feel terrible,
(20:45):
their breath is bad, they're cranky, they're grouchy, Like, all right,
so you did it. How do you feel about? Like
that was a terrible idea, But it is a it
is a right of right, of right of passage. Booze,
This is great stuff. Fall on Twitter at Mr c Booze.
Of course you can go to active Dreamers dot com
and check out those pillow heads. Carlos, thanks so much
for spending some time with us again on Fox Sports Radio.
(21:06):
Not any time alright, Carlos Boozer, two time All Star
course of former Olympian as well. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at
three p m. Eastern noon Pacific. Three former Penn State
officials are getting jail time for familing report at convicted
sexual predator Jerry Sandusky to authorities. Former Penn State President
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Graham Spaniard former Vice President Gary Schultz will spend two
months in jail. Former athletic director Tim Curley will spent
three months in jail. The rest of their sentences will
be served in her house arrest. Spaniard received a sentence
of four to twelve months, plans to appeal. Curly seven
to twenty three months, Schultz six to twenty three months.
(21:49):
Sentencing guidelines had called up called for up to a
year in prison. They're not gonna They'll serve very little time,
if any um, the judge Judge Bob Judge John Baba
Boca Bella said why Mr Sandusky was allowed to continue
to the Penn State uh to the Penn State facilities
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beyond me. All three ignored the opportunity to put an
end to Sandusky's crime when they had a chance to
do so. My hypotheses on the Jerry Sandusky thing is
very very simple. Things make sense right in. I mean,
there's early accusations of sexual misconduct and apparently there were
(22:32):
some even going back previous to it. But the year
prior to when he was when he resigned from his job,
there was an investigation into Jerry Sandusky. When there's an investigation,
and that's I'm not talking about the two thousand one investigation,
which was two thousand one was the one that the
(22:52):
late Joe Paterno said, well, well, you know, I I
chicked it upstairs. I sent it upstairs. I did what
I was supposed to do when somebody was alleged to
have walked in on Sandusky with a boy in the
showers at at Penn State's football facilities. Several years prior
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to that, there was an investigation with in the Jerry
Sandusky on a college campus the size of Penn State,
size the town of State College, with the power of
Penn State football. Based on my years of both playing
in college athletics, my brother and father working in college athletics,
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and over fifteen years covering college athletics, I can tell
you unequivocally that and forgive the expression if they if
you fart on campus, they smell it in the in
the football office. That's what we used to say in basketball.
You fart on campus, they smell on the basketball office.
Joe Praturner was the most popular and powerful person in
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that town. Frankly, in many ways in that state, but
especially in that part of the state. If they're investigating
the defensive coordinator from Penn State's football team for child abuse,
for child molestation, of course he knew. And then one
year later he summarily resigns. I was born at night,
(24:24):
not last night. They found out and they said, hey, dude,
and they went to Sandusky and said, you gotta what
are you gonna do? This is a problem. And Sandusky,
you're if you're a pedophile and you're able to get
away with it for as long as he was able
to get away with it. In addition to being a pedophile,
you're also a liar, and probably a pretty good one.
You're living a double life right like he was, as
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he had a foundation for at risk kids and then
he was molesting these at risk kids. You only get
away with that if you're not just a liar, but
a convincing liar. So what's most likely to have happened?
They found out he tried to talk his way out
of it. They said, look, you're just gonna have to resign.
He resigns, They allow him to stay around state college.
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He convinces them that this is just one, you know,
one kid making up a story. And then by two
thousand one, when it becomes evident that Jerry Sandusky has
a problem, they're already pot committed to Jerry Sandusky. He's
still been around campus for several years after the initial investigation.
So the best that they can do is just managed
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the problem instead of by their estimation at the time,
it was probably managed the problem. Otherwise they're guilty of
a cover up. Bocabella also is the judge criticized the
actions of Joe Paterno, who, like other administrators, failed to
alert child welfare authorities or police to the two thousand
(25:55):
one campaign. He said, Paterno could have made a phone
call without so much as getting his hands dirty. Why
didn't he do it was beyond me. Why didn't he
do it? Because they would ask him, how long have
you known? And the truth was three years. He didn't
do anything. The narrative is that Joe Paterno didn't do
enough right. That's even what they did too much. They
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did too much. Paterno knew and asked them to stop
investigating and to anyone, even Paterno's family. While Joe Paterno's
football teams in many ways lived up. Did you guys
know what the credo was Penn State athletics before this
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any idea, I kid you not so. Tim Curley was
the athletic director. I used to cover Penn State. I
used to get the short straw when I was at
ESPN once a year. My boss got named Dan Stereo
hired me. Bro, Bro, you can do me a solid.
You do a Northwest Terrin Penn State basketball game. The
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way it works in college athletics is, uh, when your
conferences on like ESPN or CBS or now we're getting
the Big Ten now Fox, every conference team has to
be on ESPN once a year in basketball, once a
year in football. And so Penn State was bad in basketball,
Penn State was Northwestern was bad in basketball. So instead
of having them play some good like, let's just put
(27:24):
it on ESPN too. Somewhere in January, you know, nobody
will know. Like, we'll put it on really early in
the day, like eleven o'clock start. Let's just get two
birds one stone. We don't have to put them on
TV the rest of the year. I did those games.
Their mantra, their motto was success with honor. There is
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no success without honor. We do things the right way
at Penn State, and this was the wrong way. And
they're all going to jail, and they deserve to go
in jail. They deserve to go to jail. But but
to anybody who's I understand that there are guys that
played at Penn State that I feel like this crushes
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so many of the wonderful memories of the football games
and of the brotherhood that they shared to stay college.
I get that, But that statue can never go up
again because what that statue symbolizes to the rest of
us is the story they all knew, and nobody thought
(28:26):
enough to pick up the phone and said, Hey, we
got a problem here. You gotta get this guy off
a college campus. You've got to get this guy away
from a foundation that's bringing bringing kids around him. He
is bad, bad news, bad news. So the Penn State officials,
former president Graham Spaniard, vice president, Gary Schultz, Tim Curley
(28:47):
all going to jail, and Jerry Sandusky is sentenced to
a lifetime in hell. Mhm, but a sad story. Fox
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it was just pills like and have you ever, how
(29:10):
do I getting oxy cotton? Like highly addictive, highly uh
potent um. Those are in fact narcotics, right, Like, we
just have this weird thing where at some point we
were starting to kind of get there or like, oh
weed bad, legalized narcotics? Good? Excuse me? Like would you
(29:38):
rather gout and and look, I don't think you should
smoke a bowl and get behind the wheel of a car.
It's one of the one of the big issues they're
gonna have is marijuana has been decriminalized as legal in
some kind of sit legal in some states is going
to be um, how you manage people smoking and driving,
smoking and working, Like, Look, I don't really like I
(29:58):
do I think it should be go. I'm more of
a decriminalized sort of guy. On the other hand, do
I want my kids bus driver smoking a bowl and
be like, I gotta go take the kids to school, right,
not so much. They're like, well, you know, uh, if
your stone driving, you're driving slower, Like yeah, your reactions
are sower, Like I don't want somebody stoned driving my
(30:20):
kids bust. You're like, well obviously, well none, obviously, you know,
like how do we manage the d W I driving
or d U I but for weed or four pills?
But like if you asked me, hey, would you rather
a guy be smoking weed or a guy addicted to
weed or a guy addicted to oxy? I would say weed.
(30:45):
I would say oxy is way stronger, way stronger. You
don't know the strain of my stuff, like it's easy,
but I really don't. And I sometimes videos have to
come out because that's what it looks like, right, the
Ray Rice video, the Joe mix a video like that's
(31:07):
what violence against women looks like. You need to see it.
You need to see how awful it is. And people
need to see that Tiger Woods video. I need to
see it, not for humiliation of Tiger, but to just understand,
Like you may think, like a doctor prescribed me these pills,
how bad could it be? Like if you take too
many of them, if you get addicted to him, or
if you get behind the wheel of a car, like
(31:28):
that's it. And I'm like anybody else, like I've taken
stuff where you know I had in college. You have
a doctor goes like, whatever you do, don't knock it
down with a beer. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Right, what
do you do? You're knocking down with the beer and
you're like, man, I don't even remember last week. Oh gosh. Yeah,
there's people, you know, there's um, I know people that
(31:51):
take ambient Like, dude, you that's the kind of stuff
you gotta have a prescription for. Like, you don't just
pop an ambient because I haven't sleep and slept in
a couple of days, so I'm gonna take an ambient
Like that's not really good idea. Not a doctor, and
you didn't stay at Holliday Express. Yes, music. Two things
on this Tiger. Do you think that there's something much
more to the story that hasn't been uncovered yet. I
(32:13):
have a friend who works for TMZ and he's sort
of trying to uncover the details because he's convinced that
there's some sort of I don't want to say cover up,
but there's a lot more to the story that hasn't
been revealed yet. And then also just like what's next
for Tiger. Do you think that it's more about just
repairing his image now than it is getting back on
the golf course. Well, I think the only thing that
(32:35):
repairs his image is getting back in the golf course.
So I just don't know. I have friends in golf.
I have friends that are in Tiger's camp that have
wanted him to shut it down and just say, can't
do it. Do TV do something, you know, do TV
beat beat Tiger Woods, be a you have a foundation,
do those things. I think he needs golf. I think
(32:55):
he needs another comeback. I think he needs to to
clear that out of his system. And then I've I
have friends that like, look, he actually could come back
from this thing. He actually and if he can come back,
if he can twist his back and not be in pain,
he could be good like people do forget like he
won I don't know what it was five years ago whatever,
Like he won more golf tournaments than anybody one year.
He just didn't win any majors. So, oh eight was
(33:18):
when everything went bad, right, we're in two thousand seventeen.
You're like, so for nine years, like I think it
was like two thousand thirteen or so, he actually won
more tournaments than anybody's, any other golfer. He just didn't
win majors. Like he has played good golf. He just
hasn't been able to stay healthy. He was a PGA
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Tour Player of the Year, but we've completely forgotten that
because of this story, because of the video, because he
was so he was so out of it. He thought
he was driving from Orange County to San Diego. Like Tiger,
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I Heart Radio app. When you talk to former NBA players,
they don't think the league is particularly good. They think
the league lacks developed players, well rounded players, which brings
us to the discussion, which uh is an offshoot of
an interview which Colin Calherd had with Adam Silver yesterday.
(34:26):
My senses it's not working for anyone. It's not work.
Certainly from the college coaches and athletic directors. I hear
from They're not happy with the current system, and I
know our teams aren't happy either, in part because they
don't necessarily think that the players are coming into the
league are getting the kind of training, um that they
would expect to see among top draft picks in the league.
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You know, they're just not ready. They're not ready and
and in all honesty, they're also not equipped two train
nineteen year old kids. Um, Ryan, you remember you kind
of you took an interesting path. I was talking about
the possibility of taking the Oklahoma State job and how
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one of the thoughts that I had, which was very
very honest, which was in terms of evaluating players, I
can watch two players play and tell you which one
I like more. But one of the things I have
not done enough in my life is going and evaluate
a sixteen year old and then watch him matriculate to
being in nineteen twenty year old like my brother has
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done that for the last twenty years. And so recruiting
is it's more than just about recruiting. It's about evaluating
where somebody is and where they're gonna end up and
how they're gonna fit into what you want to do.
There's like an art to it. And so my strength
is I know it works in college basketball because no
one studied it or seen more of it than I have. Additionally,
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I believe that I can evaluate college players against one
other because no one's seen a wider swath of of
college players than I have during my time, and so
I would I think I would do a pretty good
job of recruiting transfers and understanding like what a team
would need and how they would need it to which
you said, like, wasn't that a weakness that you wouldn't
be able to recruit, And I said, no, no, it's
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not about recruiting, it's about evaluating. I would allow my
assistance to evaluate. I would do the recruiting, the the
sales if you will, But you also have to be
able to understand when you take a like I'll never
forget when I got to Notre Dame as a freshman,
I was nineteen year old freshman during twenty I was
still only a hundred sixty pounds when I arrived on campus.
I was a hundred and seventy seven pounds by the
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time of my first game. So part of that is
like when you get to campus, like you're it's gonna
be and I had lifted weights before, I had trainer before,
but your body just develops differently during that period of time.
You need people who are It's one of the reasons
I don't like Gunner Peterson being the new strength coach
for the l A l A Lakers. That's Gunner Peterson
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makes Kim Kardashian look great, and he's worked with athletes.
That's that's great. But Brandon gram his success or failure
in the NBA is mostly going to be based upon
two things. His work ethic and how his body is
put together. You need somebody who is an expert in
a nineteen year old and creating an athletic freak of
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nature for years and not screwing up all the other
gifts that he has. That's a specialized skill. And I
think what you can tell me keep their mind. This
about the one and done rule. Players can come right
out of high school and go to the D League.
Go there for a year, they're eligible for the draft.
They make money, they get per diem and believe it
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or not, the salaries next year in the D League.
Some guys in the D League, D League only, we're
making six figures dollars. But they it's not smart to
do it. Twofold one kills your brand? Can anybody tell
me anything about the D League this year? Of course,
not nobody watches minor league basketball. Nobody cares kills your brand,
as opposed to everybody knows Lonzo Ball. Why player U
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c l A played in those big games playing the
n A Tournament. Correct, there's a college basketball has a value.
It's not the players bringing the value is a very
small amount of the value. Most of the values based
upon the brand, based upon the n A Tournament and
the production of CBS, Fox, ESPN, et cetera. Um. But
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the other reason you shouldn't go to the D League
is the D League is a developmental league, not just
for players, but also for coaches. Who is more likely
to develop a player better Roy Williams, Mike Chowski, Bill Self,
Steve prom Brand, McCaffrey, that amount of or one of
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these minor league coaches or an assistant coach in the NBA.
It's a system that's worked for a long time and
we're skipping steps. And yes, it would make Lebron go
to college. It would likely make Heavin Garnett go to college.
I know what they do they'd be dominant college basketball players,
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and then they be lottery picks, and then they'd be
great NBA players because they are that much better. But
it would also create a more competitive college game, and
it will allow players to invest more in their own
personal evolution basketball evolution, learn how to play, learn how
to dominate at their appropriate level before they go and
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try and compete against the best players in the world.
The only people holding this thing back are the agents.
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Warren Moon joins us in The Doug Gollup Show The
Hall of Famer. Um. I mean, like, look, Rihanna is beautiful.
If she wanted whoever, if she cheered for me, I
would be happy. But I just I don't know what
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Lebron's wife thinks about. Like Rihanna front row cheering for
her man. I mean, that's a am I the only
one thinking this, Lauren, his wife Pride just is excited
that Rihanno's cheering for a man. As long as he's
cheering for a man, that's where it stops. I'm with you,
like it sounds good but I don't know. Uh. You
(40:10):
every time I have you one, you want to talk hoop.
I want to talk football with you, but I can
bury that for a second. What's your takeaway from Game
one last night? Uh? I was a little bit surprised
that Cleveland didn't play with a little bit more aggressiveness
physicalness on on their side of the ball um. Defensively,
I thought they were terrible if they didn't move their feet.
(40:33):
They looked confused at times, you know, letting guys dribble
the length of the court for slam dunks and everybody's
looking at each other. They looked really totally out of sinks. Defensively,
and then offensively, they just didn't shoot the ball well.
They missed a lot of open shots. You got to
give the Warriors a little bit of credit for that,
but I thought there were enough open shots there for
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Cleveland to make that more of a game. But they've
got to come back and play more physical. They've got
to play better deef fans and get in front of
people and not let the Warriors score as easy as
they did in this in this basketball game. And then
they've got to shoot the ball better. And are we
allowed to at least discuss the possibility that Lebron is
more accomplished and has been better for his career, that
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Kevin Durant is actually the better basketball player right now.
I'll say that when the series is over, Lebron's you know,
he's still at twenty eight points eight eight and eight.
Last night, I think, and and he didn't play his
best game. He missed some shots that he normally made,
so uh, he had a little bit more contest on
(41:36):
his shots than than than KG did. And uh, I
mean KD did. And I think that you'll see that
stiffing up a little bit more as a series goes along.
I still contend Lebron is the best basketball player in
the world right now. All right, that's at Warren Moon
the Hall of Famer. Why why did the Why did
the Seahawks, who need a backup quarterback, who have an
(41:58):
athletic both in and out of the pocket starting quarterback,
why in your mind did they not sign Colin Kaepernick.
I don't think Colin Kaepernick wants to be a backup,
and I don't think he wants to play for the
minimum um. I think he came up to Seattle just
to take a look. See and and see what Seattle
was talking about. But I think when it all came
(42:20):
down to it, that that he wants to look for
an opportunity where he can maybe be a starter, maybe
not walk in and be the starter, but at least
somewhere where he compete to be a starter. And he
can't compete to be a starter in Seattle with Russell
Wilson there. So I never thought it was a good
trip anyway. But Seattle, Seattle looks at every possible opportunity,
and it doesn't have to be for right now. They
could be looking down the road, but at least they
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get a chance to see who Colin Kaepernick is, get
a chance to know him a little bit better from
this visit, and if something happens down the road, and
now they have a better understanding of what they'll be
bringing in. But I never thought it was a good visit,
uh as far as signing him right now as a backup,
because I don't think Colin Kaepernick wants to be a backup.
That that's a that's a fascinating point that I don't
think anybody has made. Uh not, not the point about
(43:05):
doesn't want to be a backup. He's his campus kind
of denied that, but you make warm Moon joining us
in the Doug Gotlieb Show not only a Hall of
Famer and a broadcaster for Seahawks game, but also somebody
who has counseled and worked with many of these quarterbacks
they come up into the NFL draft while they're in
the in the National Football League. Okay, so is it
Do you think his best opportunity to become a starter
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is meet with people, sit, continue to work, wait till
somebody gets hurt and then and then riding on the
white horse. Or do you think it's fine the right
opportunity where a guy will ultimately lose his job, you know,
either one of those. But I think a lot of
people just want to see where Colin is right now
(43:47):
in his mind, uh you know, just what he's thinking about,
what his long range plans, how much does he really
love football? How much do the other things off the
field play into who he is right now? And they
get a guy that's gonna be really focused in on
just playing football right now and not some of the
other things that he's interested in. So I think there's
a lot of fact finding missions out there as Colin
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travels around and talks to these different teams so people
can get a better feel for him, because all they've
really seen over this last year is what they saw
on the sidelines and what they heard, you know, from
the San Francisco four and nine his locker room. Now
they're getting a chance to get a field for themselves
by bringing him in and spending some time with him.
Warremon joining us on the Doug Otlip Show on Fox
(44:29):
Sports Radio. I have heard that a lot about how
much does he love the game? Is that code because
of the protest? Or is it is that only a
portion of that discussion that there's there's more to him
maybe not loving maybe not loving the game, which you know,
so much of that position is about how much you're
willing to just get in there every morning, early in
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the morning, stay till at late at night. How much
of it is the protest and how much of it
is other stuff? See, I think the protest is just
a small part of it. The tests is just something
that happens on Sunday afternoon. But what causes the protests,
it's all the other things that lead up to the protest.
As far as how he feels about you know, how
how African Americans and minorities are treated in their communities.
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How police brutality has uh has a lot to do
with what's going on in our society. All these different
things that he's thinking about that leads up to to
what makes the protest happen. But when you're thinking about
all these different things that he has going on socially,
within the within the community, your mind can't be focused
totally on football all the time. So that's what everybody's
(45:36):
concern is, how focus is he gonna be because it
takes a lot of focus to be a quarterback in
the National Football League, and your mind can't be all
over the place with all these very important topics that
he's dealing with. When I want to ask you about
this ESPN story about Richard Sherman, about the defense and
about the idea that they still it still bothers them,
(45:56):
the play calling and the fact that they let one
get away. We all know how hard it is to
win a Super Bowl, but we also know that at
some point you kind of got to build the bridge
and get over it. How accurate as a guy who
covers the team knows Seattle knows the Seahawks so well,
How accurate. Do you believe the narrative to be that
that team that the defense uh still still not happy
(46:18):
about the result of the Super Bowl three years ago. Well,
I don't think it's the whole defense. I think it
might be one player on that defense, and that one
player is a little bit more vocal than others. But
I think for the majority of the players have gotten
over all of that and have tried to move forward.
But when you have you know, a very vocal flip
(46:39):
member of your football team that still feels that way,
that voice tends to be heard a lot more. But
from what I've talked to from most of the players,
they've gotten over and they've moved on. But I think
they all have to be able to move on before
they're gonna be able to do what they want to
do going forward as far as winning a championship. You
can't allow that negativity to linger in your locker room
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and within your your football team because it's just going
to tear them apart. So whoever it still has a
problem with that needs to get over it and move
on and past it because there's nothing you can do
about it now. And it's it's just like any tragedy
that happens in your life, whether it's a breakup of
a marriage or a relationship, or a death or whatever
it might be. Somehow you have to move past it
(47:21):
and and get it behind you and start moving forward
before you can really make things happen in your life.
All right, last thing, Warre Moon the Hall of Famer
kind of to spend a little extra time with us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, we all have this
like that, Like, look, you can be a pain in
the ass if you're really really good, right and there's
you know, there's a relationship there, you know, Like if
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you're a backup, we can't have it be a pain.
But if you're a starter in all pro like, all right,
we can put up with something. Have we have we
gotten to? Have the Seahawks gotten to the point where
as talented as Richard Sherman is, he not as dominant
as he's been and some of this other stuff is
distracting to the point where it might be time to
shake hands and part ways, Like are are we to
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that point yet? In your opinions? Well, I think they
were at that point during the offseason. That's where the
Seahawks were looking at other offers from other teams, but
when you have a player of his caliber, it's hard
to find equal value. And I think that's what the
Seahawks problem was, trying to find equal value that they
were to move him, because you're still moving a really
good football player and you want to get something in
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return that's that's equals. So uh, I would rather keep
a guy like that if I'm not going to get
the same type of return in a trade, because he's
still a really good player. And if we can get
him to focus in on just what he's supposed to
be doing on the football team and not the other stuff,
then I think we've got one of the best corners
in the league. If not, it can become a distraction.
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And that's the decision you have to make whether you
want to continue to keep going through this or do
you want to move the player and uh and clean
out your locker room war and great stuff. Man, Listen,
I love having you on. We can talk who, we
can talk football, we can talk whatever you want. Thanks
so much for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio anytime. Doug.
I just hope this series gets a little bit better,
(49:08):
because I was really looking forward to it and last night.
Really disappointed. Hey, can I ask you one more? I
almost forgot um. You watch a ton of you dub
Husky basketball. I know that Romer's great dude. Also another
Husky sucks to see him fired, but they just they
weren't competitive enough the last couple of years. A lot
of people who haven't watched Marquelle Folks are worried about
(49:28):
the idea that he might be really talented but he
didn't win games. What's your take on Marquelle Folts and
whether or not he should be the first pick of
the NBA draft. Well, I think that's legitimate. This kid
is very very special. He was on a team last
year that wasn't talented in a lot of areas. And
people have to remember he missed the last so many
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games of the season with an injury himself, but whenever
he played, I tell you what, he was really really special.
I think he was a leading scorer in the FACT twelve,
But the FACT twelve was a very good tougherence year
as well. So if you if you couldn't come and
play because you had Oregon, you had arizonly at U,
c l A, at USC had some really good teams
in the Conference. They lost a lot of close foot
(50:10):
basketball games because they just weren't good. And it's quite
good enough even though they had a great player on
their basketball team, but they were playing against some really
good players as well. Great stuff, Warren, Warren Moon in
the Hall of Famer. Thanks so much, Warren. Okay, take care,
all right, it's Warren Moon, dub Husky NFL Analysts, Hall
of Famer
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