April 30, 2019 • 48 mins
Doug is tired of the Rockets continuing to complain about the refs and tells you why it has officially become embarrassing. He also thinks LeBron James finally showed everyone last night, for the first time in a long time, he’s actually really bored. Plus, Doug talks to Hall of Famer and NBA analyst Grant Hill about the playoffs and whether the Rockets can comeback against the Warriors.
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the Hall of Famer, will join us later on in
the show. He is both a an NBA analyst, a
college basketball analyist, and a part owner of the Atlanta Hawks.
Will ask him about the officiating in the NBA. If
I am, what's for Tita's first name? Tillman for Tita.
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Great name, by the way, and Tillman for Tita is
a remarkably successful man. Tilman for Tita. If you know
Mastro's Steakhouse, for example, Like that's his chain, upper end steakhouses, restaurants,
high end stuff, and he and his family have absolutely
killed it, so much so that their reward was probably
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overpaying for the Houston Rockets, right, like a two billion
dollar price tech. And if I'm Tillman Fritida today, I've
reached the point of embarrassment. I'm not upset, hey, um
in the in the the reactions that we have, you know,
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and the different reactions that we have to things that
go wrong, the stages of grief, if you will. Today,
I'm embarrassed and maybe maybe a little ticked off, But
not the officials, not I'm Adam, Not at Adam Silver
who runs the NBA, Not at other owners, not at
the Warriors or Steve Kerr for kind of clowning the
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idea of the flop. I'm ticked off at my own
management team. I paid two billion dollars for a championship
ready franchise, one that has the league's m v P
and James Harden, one that has Mike D'Antoni, who several
times has knocked on the door of being an NBA
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Finals team but as yet to kick it in. I
bought into the whole plan. I bought into the idea
of analytics, bath sketball. I bought into all the things
that I thought were this close from winning the whole thing.
What I didn't buy into is this senseless, mindless crap,
which is, let's use a portion of the two billion
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dollars I spent the money that I used to fund
this franchise, and let's go back and look at last
year's footage of Game seven and try and great out
what was and what was not a good call. Don't
get me wrong, Reviewing the past to help your own
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future is good business. It's the same reason we should
watch tape, we should listen to audio here in our business. Right,
you should listen to yourself when you conduct an interview,
when you go on an opening. Right, what could I
do better called listing session. That's great to help you,
But the idea of let's let's start with the premise
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that we got screwed and then have confirmation bias and
use our analytics department to determine just how badly we
got screwed is a laughable embarrassment. And oh yeah, by
the way, this story just happens to get out right
when they happen to play against the Golden State Warriors,
and Scott Foster, who had been put on Game two
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well before the series ever began, just so happens to
be officiating tonight's game. I was born at night, just
not last night. These things just don't happen. They're not
just coincidences. This is the Rockets trying to do what
Phil Jackson would do for years, what pat Riley had
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done for years, and Jeff ben Gundi, Greg Popovitch a
little bit which but they have taken it to the
inth degree. Not only we're gonna bitch and complain about
past calls, We're gonna go a year in the past
and use analytics department. Look, the major flaw in it
is there's something called the butterfly effect in sports and life.
If this one thing doesn't happen, then a litany of
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things may not happen in succession. So the idea that
a missed call stands on itself and you can judge
each miss call and grade some sort of numerical value
for it is the worst possible use of analytics. And
it's a total lie that's told to the public because
there is no true control group. There is no reality
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to it. But do you mean to tell me that if,
in fact, they did review Game seven of last year's
Western Conference Finals, where they did not have Chris Paul,
which is fair. They also missed twenty seven consecutive three
point shots, and oh yeah, by the way, the Golden
State Wars didn't have Andrea Guadala. There's a lot of
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other factors that go into who wins and who doesn't
win a game. But you mean to tell me that
they didn't have this information for the last year. Again,
I was born at night, not last night. And now
I'm telling Fa Tita, And now you've you've forced the
NBA and the NBA's officials into a corner. Whatever you're
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intent game. Look, dude, you have somebody who led the
NBA in free throw attempts, who, by the way, had
fourteen free throw attempts the other night. It wasn't like
he didn't go to the line. I was like, man,
James Harden, you're getting roughed up here. Your success has
benefited from the officials, even in the postseason, and yet
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you have the goal. You have the the Yiddish words hutzpu,
which means bulls, the lower Intestine affortitude to put out
some report the day before what could be a defining game.
I'd be embarrassed if I'm tilborn for Tita. This is this,
you know, this reminds me of This reminds me of
the Democratic Party that can't get out of their own way.
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They keep tripping all over themselves about how they lost
the election of Donald Trump. Instead of figuring out how
you in the next election, they're still trying to figure
out and point fingers as to why Russia or she
didn't go visit Wisconsin or this or that, or we
pick some dope Virginia because he was bilingual to be
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the vice president, or dude, you lost. Figure out how
to get better for the next time around, right, I mean,
that's the whole thing about the about the Golden Golden
State Warriors, or or the Houston Rockets, Like, if you're
the Rockets, you should have said us out there and
go like, all right, well, hey, maybe we should have
mixed in a two point shot every now and again.
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Can we get a post up? Can we figure out
a way to to get have a more sustainable offense
instead of just chucking and ducking, Because while the numbers
will tell you ultimately you'll start making these threes, the
reality of sports is that when you start missing shots,
it's like the fluid spread to the whole team. And
when you start making him same thing, that doesn't work
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out mathematically, That doesn't work out in in a in
the analytics department. But the reality of sports is hot
streaks do happen. Cold streaks do happen. Analytics guys will
tell you if there's no such thing as protection in
the batting lineup, but human nature tells you absolutely there is.
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Absolutely there is. If I got Aaron Judge sitting on deck,
whereas in front of him, I'm gonna throw strikes to
you know why, I don't want to have Aaron Judge
hit a ball so far that the concession man in
the top rows like, damn that needs a stewardess. I
don't want to be a two or three run jack.
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So the point is this that you're you're telling for
TEENA you invested in a team that wanted to win
and lose by analytics, which is smart. Like the rest
of the NBA has taken what the takeing, what the
Rockets have used, and go like that's really smart, just
like they've taken what the Golden State warris are done
with small ball and go that's really smart. Points per
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possession of low post scoring, low post shots post up
shots is like point seven seven. That's a low percentage shot.
That's why nobody post up anymore. On the other hand,
when he got Kevin Durant and he's guarded by a
guy four inches smaller than him, and he's one of
the elite shot makers in all the sport, guess what
the Warriors do when they need to bucket occasionally they
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post up. Because the analytics, though right, also don't necessarily
focused on the elite players and on specific players who
in specific shots actually have a high points per possession
in the low post area. It also causes defense to
rotate into sag and to help which opens up shots
for other people. I'm not saying analytics is stupid, not
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at all. I think it's smart. I think it's useful.
I'm not even saying that breaking down the officiating and
showing it to the public is is stupid. It's not.
It's the timing of it. It's the over reliance on it,
it's the whining of it. It's a team that benefits
from officiating throughout their the entirety of of their of
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their march towards prominence. And they are a prominent team
on what was the eve of and now the day
of a huge playoff game where they had to know
the officiating crew had won change and two would have
Scott Foster's respected official. Otherwise it wouldn't be officiating these games.
There is zero accountability. This is and and by the way,
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it's a bad look for us as adults. This is
my biggest challenge as a youth coach. I coached my
son in football and baseball and basketball. And the thing
I do not allow my son or anybody else on
our teams to say is oh, the rafts, because I
tell them just like I would tell do you really
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think that an official who is getting at most fifteen
dollars a game gives a damn about whether or not
you win or the opposing team wins. They might if
you bitch and complain about every call, because they'll sit
there and go like, f that kid, he's a brat.
You know. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you
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believe the refs are out to get you, the refs
will then be out to get you. Because you're a
jerk and you act like the refs are out to
get you. This is a victor We become a victims society.
Oh everybody did be wrong or make a shot? Take
a better high quality shot. How many times did James
Harden push off to get open to create that space
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that was then closed up on somebody went underneath him?
Oh yeah, by the way, we need shoot a jump shot. Yeah,
you need your landing zone, but you also should land
slightly forward. How do we adjust that? And this is
as I pointed out yesterday, this is how officiating has
always been in every sport. In the NFL, they call
it a super Bowl call, which is you don't call
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close past interferences in the Super Bowl. You just don't.
You don't why because There's sixty million people that are
watching the game that never watch football, and you don't
have to explain to them what what is and what
is in past interference? Did you catch it? Did he
not catch It's pretty easy to tell. The same thing
happens in baseball. The strike zone for the regular season
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is different than the strike zone at the end of
the season. The in the neighborhood rule doesn't work in
the playoffs, and in the NBA it has not sometimes.
It has always been a much more physical game. Men
win in the playoffs. And if your style is dependent
upon calls, just like the Atlanta Braves right fourteen years
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in a row or something to night playoffs that won
one World Series. Remember their style was based upon the
fact that the strike zone seemed to be a little
bit wider for Greg Maddox. Get to the playoffs. Now
I got the real strikes. And as great as Maddox was,
power pitching wins in the playoffs because you're not gonna
get the just off the black call. You don't. You
gotta throw it over the white. The reason that the
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Seahawks were so good on their march to the Class War,
they were super They would force you to throw a
penalty flag. Sometimes the backfire, but that was their style.
It was made, It was created for the Super Bowl.
Physical teams win in Super Bowl. That's what happened this
year in Super didn't you not watch? It wasn't like
the Rams suddenly had no offense. You ask any Rams
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player or any Rams fail like they were mugging us.
They were hold us. Yeah, that's what happens in the
Super Bowl. And if you go back to the Jordan rules,
since people don't seem to properly understand or articulate what
happened when Michael Jordan's finally won a championship. Michael Jordan
couldn't get past the Detroit Pistons because every time he
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would drive in the lane, they would mug him because
they knew he wasn't did not trust his teammates. He
would not pass the basketball. And when they put in
the triangle offense, it was because they were so brutally
physical with Michael Jordan's he would be forced to pass
the ball and the trian go offense give him proper
spacing so his teammates could make shots. And that one
him six championships. And just like we don't call the
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fouls in the NBA, we don't. We didn't call the
push off on Michael Jordan's when he scored over Brian Russell.
Did We of course not. And if you want to
call the in the neighborhood rule, if you want to
call the running under me rule, that's fine. We're gonna
start calling all the travels and the pushofs as well.
But if I'm tilman for Tita, an incredible businessman who
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was within a whisker of getting to the NBA Finals
last year and his four wins away essentially from getting
to an NBA finals this year, I know it's only
the second round, but we all look at this as
the Western Conference finals. I'm not just embarrassed by the
depth of the report and by the amount of resources
that were expended for this report, the timing of it
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makes it even worse. It makes you seem like whiners
and people who are not accountable for the fact that
you couldn't make a jump shot and you kept taking them.
I'd be embarrassed today. Be sure to catch live editions
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Heart Radio app Let's welcome and Jason lack Camphor Jason,
I got I got bigger topics to get to. But
I looked at this list of unsigned currently unsigned free agents,
and I was like, Wow, that seems like some big,
big names. But isn't there a reason that teams are
waiting before they go and get some of these guys? Yeah,
in many cases now, dog after teams have kind of
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got most of the meat off the bone in free agency. Hey,
you're you're waiting it out and waiting for bargains. B
you never know exactly what you're gonna come out of
the draft with. So um, there's some Paull's there. And
then see a lot of these teams now already looking
forward to and they know the free agents they've lost,
and they know the free agents they've signed. And nobody
knows exactly the super double top secret equation that goes
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into awarding compensatory picks. But people have a pretty good idea,
and a lot of these teams are like, if we
give you fair market value, now, we're going to lose
a potential third or fourth round pick um, depending on
the individual circumstances for signing you. And we really want you,
But we really want you May eighth, because then we
can tell you what we think you're worth and what
you think you're worth, and it won't cost us a
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draft pick. Um. It's kind of a byzantine uh system.
It rewards teams for being frugal. The rich tend to
get richer. No one has exploited this system more than
New England, and we all know that they win more
than anybody else. But other teams have caught on and
and now that you can trade compensatory picks, which they
changed a few years ago, they're worth even more because
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you have that same flexibility with those picks come draft
night as you would with any other So that certainly
is playing a role in this and it's it's become
really all the rage. I wrote a column one in
a few months back. Um, you know, kind of like
letting people know it. A lot of these cats are
not going to be signed, and it's not necessarily through
any fault of their own at this point. It's just
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the way that teams are playing the game. They're exploiting
the market where they're able to. And in this case,
you know, it's if that third round pick that those
are gold. You just saw how many trades were made
second day, you know what I mean, over the weekend,
Like that's where you can really make a lot of
make a lot of Hey, um, I want to get
back to the NFL in a second, but there's something
that came came to mind. I was kind of I've
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kind of been on this, hey, educating people as they
watched the NBA. The NBA playoffs are officiated differently than
the regular season. And I remember Sean Payton when he
didn't get the call in the NFC Championship game against
the Rams. You could hear him saying, that's a that's
a super Bowl call. That's a Super Bowl call. Tell
me if I'm wrong. But isn't Is it very well
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known in the in NFL circles that in the Super
Bowl they almost never want to call defensive holding or
pass interference, uh, to kind of slow down and muddy
up the game. Is that is that fair? I mean,
I think the bigger the game, the bigger the stage, um,
the closeness of the game, the lateness of the game.
I mean, officials are human beings. I mean I think
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in in you know, we we we tend to think
that holds true. And and I don't think it's a
football specific thing. I think sports in general, right, the
magnitude of the game and the stakes that high let
them settle it on the field, you know what I mean,
interpret things maybe a little looser than you might. You know,
week two on a you know, one pm Sunday game,
with nine other games going on around the league, there's
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probably something to that. The case though, of this play,
I mean, that was so egregious, you know, I mean,
that wasn't a football no. I I just I understand,
but I'm just I'm relating that it's one of those
like the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year, we're
super super physical with the with the Rams wide receivers,
and people in the league like, yeah, that's how the
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super boy is. They don't like to call penalties, yeah,
and they don't like to call a front of them,
and um, you know, I think we've seen we've seen
that play itself out in big game situations from time
to time. Sure, Okay, so let's start with the Daniel
Jones pick. I know what people on TV and fans
how they're freaking out. What what are people in the
NFL saying about what Dave Gentleman has done. I mean
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it's it's a reach. I mean, there's no doubt about that.
It doesn't mean it's wrong, um, but it's a reach.
And the idea that there were two teams dying to
get in front of them at seventeen for Daniel Jones,
I just don't think that's true. And I don't know
anybody who does think that's true. And maybe that's what
Dave Gentleman's intel was telling him, but that's not what
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anybody else's intel did. This did the Skins wanted because
the Skins everybody said the Skins were split. You know,
there's there's two people who matter in that organization, and
one of them is Dan Snyder and the other ones
Bruce Allen, who push comes to shove, will do whatever
Dan wants. And and Dan has been aware of Haskins.
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Kids were in high school with him at Bullis. I
mean he's been on their radar. I mean you saw
the story he wrote for the Bulls School newspaper. I
mean that probably made its way to Dan Snyder's desk. Okay,
so his mentor, Sean Springs. Sean Springs is pretty close
with Dan Snyder. No no, no, I understand, but what
about the rest of the organization. They like Daniel, they
like Daniel. I didn't say it mattered and that they
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would have drafted. Here's how Redskin's personnel meetings go. Bruce
Allen sits at the end of the table, and guys
make their reports and they stake their case and he
looks at them stoically and he scribbled some things down
and then they move on. There's no quorum, there's no
uh back and forth, there's no engagement, there's no give
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me five reasons why you really love them. You set
your piece and they move on it. When when Shanahan
was there, it was much more um, give and take.
It was much more um asking guys to stump for
players and trying to form a consensus. That's just not
how the process works there, especially not when we're talking
about first round quarterbacks Jason Champford, Joni Us and the
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Doug Gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, there's
there's other teams everybody's talking about. But you know the
Ravens inside and out, and this is the first draft
without Ozzie Knewsom, and they took Hollywood Brown, who freaked talent,
great speed, but I don't how does that fit with
Lamar Jackson, a guy who's not an accurate tour does
have a big arm, but not an accurate thrower, and
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he seems like a guy a wide receiver who would
require a high amount of volume like that. That just
it's not that he's not a good players, not that
he's not talented, but it sure it feels like it
doesn't fit what they would need. Well. I think they
feel like they saw how the Chargers defended them and
pretty much everybody else. And if you've got an eight
eight and a half nine man box, all it takes
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is two over the top. I mean, I don't really
think it's volume. I think it's it's quality um and
not so much quantity. I think the volume will be
screen passes to the kid Hill. I think the volume
will be the two tight ends Andrews and Hayden Hurst,
Andrew more moving the chains and Hurst more um, you
know as that true motion tight end um. You know.
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I think what we snead is volume. I think that
this kid is take the top off, forced them to
be more honest than how they defend us, and when
things break down, you run down the sideline and he
throws at sixty five yards and you get there first.
I mean, I I think it's it's that element. And
if they flash it and it clicks a few times early,
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you better dan believe people are going to change the
way they defend this team. This was an outfit last
year that went six and one down the stretch and
did some dynamic things in the run game. But they
did all that with time Montgomery and you know, Gus
Edwards and Alex Collins and Michael Crabtree and John Brown.
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That that has now turned into you could have a
formation with mark Ingram and Hill both back there um
with you know, in the backfield with Lamar, with Hollywood
Brown coming across. You don't know. If it's a jet streep,
you don't stream, you're sweep, you don't know. If it's
an end around, you don't know. If it's a pitch
play you can and they run misdirection off of that.
I mean, if they were able to run the ball
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like they did last year with just a scheme, a
dynamic quarterback and a bunch of dudes, I'm very intrigued
to see what Greg Roman can do with a group
of four or five, super twitchy four three, four or
four guys now to play around with that is the
antithesis of what they were a year ago. Why did
no one seem to want Josh Rosie right? If the
the is it? I mean, like, look, um, I get
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that he was on the market, and it perks up
your ears when you just drafted a guy, But that
was a late second round pick for a guy who issues,
you know, supposed to issues aside everyone thought looked like
a pro quarter starting quarterback. He had no offensive line
last year, no scheme. There's no way he's the best
quarterback in this draft. Okay, So why was he just
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giving away timing and mismanagement and lack of leverage and
hubris on the part of the cart those and you know,
wasting three months with this BS charade that you've got
this monster decision to make, thinking and hoping against hope
that somebody is going you're somehow going to create this
leverage for Rosen. I mean, they should have just come
out of a combine and this is a Monday morning quarterback.
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You should have come out of combine said you know what,
Kyler Murray measured all we could hope for. He's fits
our system. We're all over for business. At one somebody
wants to trade up. Never say never, but we're gonna
do right by Josh Rosen. We're gonna trade him in
the next seventy two hours. They shouldn't could have done
it before free agency, but you wait till after free agency,
and you wait till teams have already evaluated other quarterbacks
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and fallen in love with them, and then you try
to make a trade like that, Um, going into day two.
I mean, should more teams have been interested? Absolutely to me,
Cincinnati first and foremost they take a developmental risk tight
end in round two. I mean I would have traded
that pick for Rosen all day long. And and that's,
by the way, that would have been classic. And I
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know Marvin Lewis is in the coach there. That was
classic Marvin Lewis back in the day, right. That's how
they became good was they got guys that for pennies
on the dollar, right, Drafting guys cost you anything. He's
a better fit in Zach Taylor's offense right now than
Andy Dalton, and you're only renting Dalton at this point.
I think some teams were shortsighted I think other teams
were already had their eyes you know, like the like
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the Raiders towards and seeing what they could do there.
And and looked there was historic quarterback movement a year ago,
historic trades, historic signings, cousins, you know, eighty three million
guarantee fully guaranteed UM and and just historic number of
quarterbacks taken in the first round. Supply wasn't going to
meet demand. So I don't know how the Cardinals didn't
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see it coming. But um, at the end of the day,
other teams already saw kids on the clock who they
were willing to take. And if you you know, no
one was going to bail them out. No even Miami
was able to trade down, pick up you know, extra picks,
which was genius and get him even lower in the
second round. They had no leverage. Jason lackhamp for are
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
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Sports Radio. Who's the team that when you talk to
your NFL source, as they say, you know what, those
guys did a really good job. There's a number of them.
You know, this was that there was a lot of
kudos going around. Um, you know what New England was
able to do and continuing to trade down and just
get value, value value, John Schneider turning four picks before
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the Frank Clark trade into like ten afterwards. Not everyone
loved the pass rusher he took in the first round,
but you know, hey, maybe didn't know something other people don't.
And you know, they obviously did it for a reason,
but they were able to address things across the board.
I think people, I mean, Baltimore in Arizona, if you're
gonna go with that type of quarterback, then you better
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give him plenty of dudes who who run like him
and twitch like him, and and they both did that. Now,
it doesn't mean that it will work out, but you
understand the science behind it. You know a lot of
people were enamored um with that. I mean, those are
a few of the teams that come to mind when
Jason looking forward joining us on the Dug out Lip Show.
What people think of the job? Mayock, did you know
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the first pick obviously shocked a lot of people. Um,
it's safe in that that players, you know, relatively safe,
But you know, I don't I don't know that you know,
Cleveland Farrell is going to be a top ten sack
guy the way that Josh Allen might be a lot
of years but but he he fits their mold and
they got him for a bunch of different reasons. Um,
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they loved Josh Jacobs and they were able to get
him without having uh to move around. They took a
couple of thumpers along the way who they like. Um,
you know, I I think, I mean again we we
nobody knows how I mean this is going to turn out.
But they stuck to their guns and made some smart moves.
I think if you compare to what they did a
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year ago at this time, which people conveniently often forget,
you know, trading a three from Mark Quavis Bryant, you know,
the trade down out of ten, you know, they probably
could have handled that situation maybe a little better. And
how I sight, you know, running around signing Jordy Nelson
doing some of the stuff they were doing. Uh, this
certainly seems more sound than that. It definitely does last thing.
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Am I wrong? But what happened with the Kancer Chiefs
on Thursday might have been, um, the biggest thing to
affect the NFL this year. I hope you're right. I'll
believe it when I say it. You know, I'll believe
it when I see some sort of stance or change
or corrective measures coming from it. It should um, But
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the league's on network didn't address it during how many
however many how many hours were they live during the draft?
I mean, and ungodly amount? They never talked about it, right,
not that I'm aware of, Wow, not a whole lot
the league. So you know, Roger Goodell, We're going to
keep looking into it. I mean, you know, well, well,
guess what I mean. The d A reopened the case,
and there's audio of of a young man who to
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this point no one has said, is not this this
this this um, this three year old who's endured this abuse,
saying Daddy did it? And you know the moment the
state steps in and says, right, some a crime was
committed here. We can't prove it right now, but we're
going to give mom supervisor visitation. We're gonna give dad
no rights whatsoever to see this child under any circumstances.
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Like you might think that was the threshold for your cut.
Will worry about your status later. You know, you're not
gonna be playing football for a long time. But we're
not there yet. And Frank Clark got a hundred million
dollars from the same Org team within you know, within
what twenty four hours of the audio coming out Thursday, Jason,
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great stuff. Thanks for your passion and thanks for your information. Appreciate.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Dot
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Were you guys on social media last night? Did you
do you see that that all of a sudden Lebron
James was talking about answering questions on social media. Fellas,
I think we've gotten to the point where Lebron James board,
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We've got to that place where like, if you had
all the money in the world, all the fame in
the world, you got a couple of kids, you could travel.
You don't have to work for another five months. Yea,
Lebron James, you have You've been to the finals eight
straight years. Now you can go go wherever you want,
do whatever you want. He chooses Twitter on a Monday night,
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I like, like, I don't have enough. I don't have
enough time. You know last night yesterday I got home
my son and he hit he wanted he has a
game to day. You want to hit some baseball, hits
some baseballs, ah practice fielding. Wants to play Lottle catcher night.
He's left handed, not really a catcher position, but he
wants to play it. All right, We'll let himlay Lotle
catcher nine. When to practice a little bit. Then we
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had basketball practice. Then I get home and we had dinner.
We watched some of the game. I helped move from
furniture in the house. Get the in laws in town,
like I have no time. Here's the dude with the
most time ever and all kinds of money and a family,
and he's in laws as only there's nothing to do,
so are like watch takes some Twitter questions. There's a
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guy who loves attention. It's exactly what you think, and
we've all kind of been part of it, but you
often think like, well, it's Lebron. He's got to be
tired of the attention because everywhere he goes it's something
He took the first round off, didn't hear from him,
was on vacation. Then he goes to his son's a
you tournament over the weekend, does whoop it up a
(31:31):
little bit and does some push ups, and as much
as you want to say, nah, Lebron doesn't want attention.
Then you see him tweeting ask him for questions, and
you're like, I guess he does. You're worth a billion
dollars the Monday night. You've got three kids, a wife,
and you live in Los Angeles. I don't know. I
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could think of fifty thou things that I would rather
do other than answer people's questions on Twitter. But he's bored,
which is why he should appear on Inside the NBA
on t NT right now. He should wait until the
Conference finals to do so, but he should definitely do
with that. Definitely definitely do it that. Fox Sports Radio
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R to listen live. Grant Hill joins us in the
Doug Gallip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Where were you
during that when when the Bucks are in the Eastern
Conference Finals? Do you remember who you're playing for them?
Was that? Were you with the Pistons? No, I was
with Orlando. I think that was the two thousand, one thousands. Yeah,
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so I was in Orlando. It was our first year there.
I was hurt and we played them in the first
round and we actually beat them, I think, I think
in game two in Milwaukee we beat them and then
they came back I think and beat us in four.
Um in Orlando, it's when Tracy McGrady just went and
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totally outplayed big dogs. But uh, they had ray Allen
Sam because said all those names you guys mentioned certainly
brings back good memories. Those are guys from my time.
And uh and May of course went on to that
Eastern Conference finals, so uh that that was a long
time ago, but that that team is back and uh
they got a tough one here coming up here a
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game too. Can I ask you about team Mac Like
he until he was was really late in his career,
and we'll give him credit for being with the Spurs,
but he never got out of the first round. And
I look, I know it's a team game, but and
I know he had Yeahmin got hurt a couple of
different times, and there was some bad luck. But how
how do you never get out of the first round? Yeah,
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I mean I don't know. I mean, you know I
was part of that pad luck too in Orlando. Um,
and as talented as as he was, and I wish.
I wish I could have just been right and healthy
at least one of those years. Um. But yeah, I
mean it's just, you know, I don't know, It's just
I think it was tough circumstances. Uh. I know one
of those years, I think two thousand and three with
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the Magic they were up three games the one against
the Pistons, and uh, and the Pistons came back and
won three in a row and ended up, you know,
getting to the Eastern Conference finals themselves, I believe. Um.
But yeah, I mean it's Towns that as the player
we've ever seen and certainly during that generation, and just uh,
you know, just for whatever reason, bad luck, um, you know,
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just circumstances, whatever the case may be, was not able
to get out of that first round until, you know,
until he was in a more of a reserve role
at the end of his career, coming off the bench
and limited minutes with the Spurs. Grant Hill joining us
in the Doug Gallup Show on Fox Sports Trading. I
want to get back to the NBA stuff in a second.
I want to talk about, uh, what you're doing, because
this is, uh, this is an incredible campaign. It's really
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really important it's called choices matter, and it's it's having
an open conversation about the opioid epidemic that's plagued our country.
I would throw all your surgeries. I assume that you
were given opioids after each one of these procedures, right, Yeah,
that's a that's a fair assumption. I was, uh, doug.
I had eleven surgeries during my career, and um, you
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know everyone until the last one, the last surgery, uh,
the end. Actually when I was done playing after my
I retired on my knee. Um, that was the first
time that I was introduced to this long acting numbing
medication and uh, and so my post surgical process or recovery,
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there was no opio opioid use. And thankfully all that
exposure I had, I never you know, never developed any
type of addiction to them or anything like that. But
I just didn't like the way they made my body feel.
And that was the part I dreaded was always immediately
after surgery, managing your pain and having to take these
pills to do that. And so having gone through that
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on my last surge, I was like, wow, like this
is amazing and and so really, what we're doing with
choices matter. It's just exposing patients to this particular procedure
and letting them know that there's an there's an alternative. Uh,
there's an option there that you don't have to expose
yourself self to opioids. We have a prescription over prescribing
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issue in our country. Um, and people, I think one
in three people who are considering surgery are worried about
taking opioids. So here's an alternative, no medication. Take it
from someone who's had plenty of surgeries, Um that this
is by far, in terms of recovery, the best. And
so I appreciate you giving us your platform at least
(36:45):
talk about it. And um, you know, people can go
to the website and read up more about about that. Yeah,
it's Planning against Planning its pain plan p l a
N Against Pain p ai n dot com is the website.
So wait, it's a it's another medication. It's a procedure
so you don't need it, so you don't feel the pain. Like,
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how does it? How does it work? Yeah? I mean
it's it's it's it's kind of like it's this numbing thing, uh,
numbing medication. Uh that basically numbs the paint and it
does it for for four days post surgery, so you know,
that's the period of time when you have the most paint.
And usually after four or five days, the paint subsides,
(37:27):
and you know, you can you've been giving all these
pills and you're kind of like, we'll manage it, and
you know, and you end up taking them longer than
you should. And so I know when I had a
surgery on my knee, and after four days, as the
numbing medication wore off, um, I didn't feel anything and
I didn't have any pain, and I was like, wow,
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like this is I wish this was around a few
years ago when I when I had more surgeries. But um,
so yeah, I mean I experienced it. I felt it,
I went through it, and and I didn't see, you
know that the way that the opioids make you feel.
You know, I didn't have that, just headache and my
stomach hurting. I didn't throw up or you know, not
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to be graphic, but I didn't get sick. And um,
you know, and as athletes, you you're very much in
tune with your body, and all of a sudden you're
putting something in there that that that's essentially poison, your
body is going to react a certain way, and it
certainly did with me. Um so I was relieved by it.
I couldn't believe it. And uh and then years later,
obviously the opportunity to to work with with them on
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on getting this out here, on this Choices Matters campaign
is something that I'm I'm excited to be a part of.
It's playing against pain dot Com Hall of Famer Grant
Hill joining us do glip show here Fox Sports Radio.
What do you make of Houston's not just complaints about
the deficiating. We've seen that before, but they actually use
their analytics department to reportedly go back and look at
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game seven and and and give them points for fouls
that were not called in their in their favor. As
a guy who played in this league, now an owner,
a partial owner of a team in this league, and
an analyst for this league, what do you think of
the reaction to some of the miscalls in Game one? Well,
you know, initially does I thought it was like, as
you said, posturing the gamesmanship. We've seen it time and
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time again, year after year, where a game happens and
maybe a coach goes to the press conference and complains
about the officiating maybe gets fined the same with players,
So that's nothing new. Um, but I think taking it
a step further with the analytics, I guess it shows
you you can always, um, you know, you can always
sort of justify your your your case or your point
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or your position with with numbers and analytics. Uh. Not
that I'm against analytics. I embraced analytics and they play
a role. But UM, the thing I worry about with Houston,
they played really well. They played well enough to possibly
win that game. Um, you can't do anything about it now,
and you know you have to sort of move on
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and get yourself ready and prepared for that next game.
And you just get the sense that they haven't let
it go, and you worry is that going to be
too much of a distraction for them? Uh? You know,
we always know that, you know, game one on the road,
you can always try to steal that game. We also
know that Golden Stages came off of a pretty tough
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series against against l A. I do worry are they
gonna be mentally focused and prepared here for game two?
Um one, the Warriors are gonna be I think maybe better.
But all this talk and just not you know, not
moving forward and getting themselves in the right frame of mind.
So look, I've been wrong before, and they very well
could use that as fuel and go out and have
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a great game. But I think it's a little bit
too much. If you ask me, I would I would
agree with you. Um, what's your take on how KD
is playing? Um, you know, I've I've thought he's the
best player in the game for a couple of years now.
Most people, many people have rebuffed that and said, but
still Lebron maybe until this year. It's hard because Lebron
is not playing now, but it feels like he's taking
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the challenge of the early Clippers games and just showing us, uh,
how how good he is. What's your sins for Kevin
Durant and what's happened over this last kind of four
or five game stretch. Yeah, I agree, I mean, you know,
I think I think he's the best player. I mean,
and respectfully to Lebron, I think Lebron dominated in a
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different way. I mean, I think Lebron was you know,
he's Lebron, you know, I mean, he's versatile, he does everything.
But I don't know if there's a player that's that unguardable. Um.
I mean, and I've guarded all these guys and obviously
Durant when he was a little bit younger and maybe
not even as good as he is now. But you know,
he can put it on the floor. He can, he
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can shoot over you. He can you know, off the dribble,
get to the basket, get to the free throw a line.
You know, he doesn't post up, you know, because he
has a wiry frame and um, and that's the one
area of domination that he hasn't, um really developed. But
everywhere else. Um, he was that one guy that I
know years ago when I guarded him when he was younger,
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you could do everything right and play perfect defense. And
because of his length and his quick release, I mean,
he would just shoot right over you and and there
was nothing you could do about it. And um, but yeah,
I mean, right now, he's playing as good as I've
ever seen him play. He's efficient. Um, he's sort of
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mastered their system and figuring out his spots and UM,
he's just he's playing with confidence, and they're and they're
writing him and uh, it's really a lot of fun
to watch. If I let you write, go ahead, I'm sorry,
but I say it's fun to watch. If if if
you're not a fan of the team he's playing. No question,
if I let you write the rules on on playoff
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basketball in terms of landing area, and how would how
would you? What do you think is fair? Because you've
been a shooter and you've been the defender, right like
you were a two end player and a really good
one at at both. Obviously, if you could rewrite the rules,
I just said, Grant Hill, he knows the game. He's
he's an you know, he's a partial owner, he's an analyst,
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he's a player. He's played against all of the best
of the best of the best. He knows all the
tricks to the trade at both ends of the floor.
What's the fairest way to officiate a game? Well, I
mean it's tough. I mean I'm I'm okay with the
rules as they are now. Um, the question is is
you know is enforcing those rules? And and there was
a lot of commotion and look, officials are you know
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they're not going to get it right all the time?
I thought, Um, I thought that last shot was a
clean play. And you know, look, I'm sensitive. I had
issues injuries. Um, you jumping up somebody purposely putting their
feet under you, like that's a dirty play and and
that is uncalled for. I don't think that was on
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any of the plays even throughout the game. Was the intent?
I think you look, you got a great player in
heart and you're trying to contest him and distract him
from from scoring. Um, but you want to protect the
shooter her in those cases. Um, you know, I think
you have to be consistent. I think you know that.
You know, if you want to give the officiating crew
that night credit, they were consistent and not calling that. Um.
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But I think you want to protect players, particularly really
good ones who you know, if if Harden gets hurt
on a play like that, then, uh, you know that
that that's just a bad look for everybody, uh involved.
We want James Harden playing and playing at his best
in the playoffs, as fans, as owners, as as as
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everyone associated with the NBA. So, UM, I don't mind
the rule. I just think you got to enforce it.
And I didn't think that they were consistently uh calling
that throughout the game. And look, Houston has a valid point,
but you gotta move on, you know, And Uh, I
do think playoff stball in general, I don't mind it
being a little bit more physical. I don't mind. Actually,
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I don't mind in general the game getting back to
being more physical. And I think back in the nineties, Uh,
it was tough to watch because it was too physicals.
But I think the skill level has increased tremendously, uh
since then. No, no, no, that's my radar, detective. I'm
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sorry about that. But I do believe that the skill
level overall and the shooting and the scoring is so
much better than what it was some years ago, and
at almost as like it's it's too much of a
disadvantage to the defense. So I think, you know, maybe
putting in or allowing for a little bit more physicality,
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um might be a good thing, because I think it's
maybe gone a little too far where it just gives
all the advantage to the offense and you're almost penalized
if you're trying to play good defense, no question, because
you get to go like I would I picture you
now if you were playing now, you'd be like in
a honest type of role, right like you had not
yet at that point be developed in you know, even
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in your prime is a great three point shooter, but
somebody would have smartly given you the ball, played point
power point forward and put four shooters around you and
the lane is wide open. I mean, think of think
of the straight line drives that you'd be able to
or get by guys with when there's no power forward
and center in the lane. And if anybody touches you,
it's a foul. I mean, it's really really kind of
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Everyone talks about it being a shooters game, but if
you have shooters and you have a great ball handling
athlete like yourself or Lebron or Jannice like those guys
are really hard to guard because you can't put a
hand check on to slow him down. That's it. I mean, look,
I thought about that. I played in sort of multiple errors,
and you know, I remember trying to guard Michael Jordan's
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and being allowed to to use my eyes and and
and and and what little strength I had to try
to stop them. And then I also remember guarding you know,
Kobe Bryant, Lebron and Carmelo and all those guys. At
the end of my career, you couldn't touch him and
uh and so uh not an indictment on players today
versus players back then. Um, but I just think I think, um,
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it's different. It's different in a lot of ways. And
I sometimes like, wow, if if if when I'm my
slasher days and attacking the rim and and then you know,
middle mid range game to be able to to play
now where if you just breathe on somebody, you get
you know, you get called for a foul. Um I
would have you know, I'm salivating thinking about it. Um. So,
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but yeah, I mean it's a different game. You you
see it was you honest. I mean, look last year
he had a really good year, and was it was
you know, maybe in the m v P consideration. Um,
But now you bring in you know, you bring in
Bud and you spread the floor, you shoot more threes,
and you're bringing the big guys like Merritage and Lopez
and now those quarters really space with shooters and you
can't touch him, and so it just it puts the
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defense out of disadvantage in more ways than one. And
and I'm not opposed to that. Um, I just I
don't know, I just feel like it's it's gotten a
little bit out of balance. It was two two in
favorable of the defense back in the nineties and now
I think it's too too in favor of too in
favor of of the offense now. And then they kind
of try and level back out in the playoffs, and
that's when guys struggle to react, like, hey, the whole season,
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it's been a different way than than than than it
is now. Grant, I appreciate not just joining us, but
what you're doing with choices matter. Again, that's playing against
Paine dot com. Thanks for joining us. Good to catch up.
Let's catch up in person sometime soon. Let's do it. Doug,
thanks for having me. I appreciate you. Grant Hill.
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(01:06):
the Hall of Famer, will join us later on in
the show. He is both a an NBA analyst, a
college basketball analyist, and a part owner of the Atlanta Hawks.
Will ask him about the officiating in the NBA. If
I am, what's for Tita's first name? Tillman for Tita.
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Great name, by the way, and Tillman for Tita is
a remarkably successful man. Tilman for Tita. If you know
Mastro's Steakhouse, for example, Like that's his chain, upper end steakhouses, restaurants,
high end stuff, and he and his family have absolutely
killed it, so much so that their reward was probably
(01:48):
overpaying for the Houston Rockets, right, like a two billion
dollar price tech. And if I'm Tillman Fritida today, I've
reached the point of embarrassment. I'm not upset, hey, um
in the in the the reactions that we have, you know,
(02:12):
and the different reactions that we have to things that
go wrong, the stages of grief, if you will. Today,
I'm embarrassed and maybe maybe a little ticked off, But
not the officials, not I'm Adam, Not at Adam Silver
who runs the NBA, Not at other owners, not at
the Warriors or Steve Kerr for kind of clowning the
(02:32):
idea of the flop. I'm ticked off at my own
management team. I paid two billion dollars for a championship
ready franchise, one that has the league's m v P
and James Harden, one that has Mike D'Antoni, who several
times has knocked on the door of being an NBA
(02:53):
Finals team but as yet to kick it in. I
bought into the whole plan. I bought into the idea
of analytics, bath sketball. I bought into all the things
that I thought were this close from winning the whole thing.
What I didn't buy into is this senseless, mindless crap,
which is, let's use a portion of the two billion
(03:17):
dollars I spent the money that I used to fund
this franchise, and let's go back and look at last
year's footage of Game seven and try and great out
what was and what was not a good call. Don't
get me wrong, Reviewing the past to help your own
(03:37):
future is good business. It's the same reason we should
watch tape, we should listen to audio here in our business. Right,
you should listen to yourself when you conduct an interview,
when you go on an opening. Right, what could I
do better called listing session. That's great to help you,
But the idea of let's let's start with the premise
(04:00):
that we got screwed and then have confirmation bias and
use our analytics department to determine just how badly we
got screwed is a laughable embarrassment. And oh yeah, by
the way, this story just happens to get out right
when they happen to play against the Golden State Warriors,
and Scott Foster, who had been put on Game two
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well before the series ever began, just so happens to
be officiating tonight's game. I was born at night, just
not last night. These things just don't happen. They're not
just coincidences. This is the Rockets trying to do what
Phil Jackson would do for years, what pat Riley had
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done for years, and Jeff ben Gundi, Greg Popovitch a
little bit which but they have taken it to the
inth degree. Not only we're gonna bitch and complain about
past calls, We're gonna go a year in the past
and use analytics department. Look, the major flaw in it
is there's something called the butterfly effect in sports and life.
If this one thing doesn't happen, then a litany of
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things may not happen in succession. So the idea that
a missed call stands on itself and you can judge
each miss call and grade some sort of numerical value
for it is the worst possible use of analytics. And
it's a total lie that's told to the public because
there is no true control group. There is no reality
(05:25):
to it. But do you mean to tell me that if,
in fact, they did review Game seven of last year's
Western Conference Finals, where they did not have Chris Paul,
which is fair. They also missed twenty seven consecutive three
point shots, and oh yeah, by the way, the Golden
State Wars didn't have Andrea Guadala. There's a lot of
(05:45):
other factors that go into who wins and who doesn't
win a game. But you mean to tell me that
they didn't have this information for the last year. Again,
I was born at night, not last night. And now
I'm telling Fa Tita, And now you've you've forced the
NBA and the NBA's officials into a corner. Whatever you're
(06:08):
intent game. Look, dude, you have somebody who led the
NBA in free throw attempts, who, by the way, had
fourteen free throw attempts the other night. It wasn't like
he didn't go to the line. I was like, man,
James Harden, you're getting roughed up here. Your success has
benefited from the officials, even in the postseason, and yet
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you have the goal. You have the the Yiddish words hutzpu,
which means bulls, the lower Intestine affortitude to put out
some report the day before what could be a defining game.
I'd be embarrassed if I'm tilborn for Tita. This is this,
you know, this reminds me of This reminds me of
the Democratic Party that can't get out of their own way.
(06:56):
They keep tripping all over themselves about how they lost
the election of Donald Trump. Instead of figuring out how
you in the next election, they're still trying to figure
out and point fingers as to why Russia or she
didn't go visit Wisconsin or this or that, or we
pick some dope Virginia because he was bilingual to be
(07:18):
the vice president, or dude, you lost. Figure out how
to get better for the next time around, right, I mean,
that's the whole thing about the about the Golden Golden
State Warriors, or or the Houston Rockets, Like, if you're
the Rockets, you should have said us out there and
go like, all right, well, hey, maybe we should have
mixed in a two point shot every now and again.
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Can we get a post up? Can we figure out
a way to to get have a more sustainable offense
instead of just chucking and ducking, Because while the numbers
will tell you ultimately you'll start making these threes, the
reality of sports is that when you start missing shots,
it's like the fluid spread to the whole team. And
when you start making him same thing, that doesn't work
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out mathematically, That doesn't work out in in a in
the analytics department. But the reality of sports is hot
streaks do happen. Cold streaks do happen. Analytics guys will
tell you if there's no such thing as protection in
the batting lineup, but human nature tells you absolutely there is.
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Absolutely there is. If I got Aaron Judge sitting on deck,
whereas in front of him, I'm gonna throw strikes to
you know why, I don't want to have Aaron Judge
hit a ball so far that the concession man in
the top rows like, damn that needs a stewardess. I
don't want to be a two or three run jack.
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So the point is this that you're you're telling for
TEENA you invested in a team that wanted to win
and lose by analytics, which is smart. Like the rest
of the NBA has taken what the takeing, what the
Rockets have used, and go like that's really smart, just
like they've taken what the Golden State warris are done
with small ball and go that's really smart. Points per
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possession of low post scoring, low post shots post up
shots is like point seven seven. That's a low percentage shot.
That's why nobody post up anymore. On the other hand,
when he got Kevin Durant and he's guarded by a
guy four inches smaller than him, and he's one of
the elite shot makers in all the sport, guess what
the Warriors do when they need to bucket occasionally they
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post up. Because the analytics, though right, also don't necessarily
focused on the elite players and on specific players who
in specific shots actually have a high points per possession
in the low post area. It also causes defense to
rotate into sag and to help which opens up shots
for other people. I'm not saying analytics is stupid, not
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at all. I think it's smart. I think it's useful.
I'm not even saying that breaking down the officiating and
showing it to the public is is stupid. It's not.
It's the timing of it. It's the over reliance on it,
it's the whining of it. It's a team that benefits
from officiating throughout their the entirety of of their of
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their march towards prominence. And they are a prominent team
on what was the eve of and now the day
of a huge playoff game where they had to know
the officiating crew had won change and two would have
Scott Foster's respected official. Otherwise it wouldn't be officiating these games.
There is zero accountability. This is and and by the way,
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it's a bad look for us as adults. This is
my biggest challenge as a youth coach. I coached my
son in football and baseball and basketball. And the thing
I do not allow my son or anybody else on
our teams to say is oh, the rafts, because I
tell them just like I would tell do you really
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think that an official who is getting at most fifteen
dollars a game gives a damn about whether or not
you win or the opposing team wins. They might if
you bitch and complain about every call, because they'll sit
there and go like, f that kid, he's a brat.
You know. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you
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believe the refs are out to get you, the refs
will then be out to get you. Because you're a
jerk and you act like the refs are out to
get you. This is a victor We become a victims society.
Oh everybody did be wrong or make a shot? Take
a better high quality shot. How many times did James
Harden push off to get open to create that space
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that was then closed up on somebody went underneath him?
Oh yeah, by the way, we need shoot a jump shot. Yeah,
you need your landing zone, but you also should land
slightly forward. How do we adjust that? And this is
as I pointed out yesterday, this is how officiating has
always been in every sport. In the NFL, they call
it a super Bowl call, which is you don't call
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close past interferences in the Super Bowl. You just don't.
You don't why because There's sixty million people that are
watching the game that never watch football, and you don't
have to explain to them what what is and what
is in past interference? Did you catch it? Did he
not catch It's pretty easy to tell. The same thing
happens in baseball. The strike zone for the regular season
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is different than the strike zone at the end of
the season. The in the neighborhood rule doesn't work in
the playoffs, and in the NBA it has not sometimes.
It has always been a much more physical game. Men
win in the playoffs. And if your style is dependent
upon calls, just like the Atlanta Braves right fourteen years
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in a row or something to night playoffs that won
one World Series. Remember their style was based upon the
fact that the strike zone seemed to be a little
bit wider for Greg Maddox. Get to the playoffs. Now
I got the real strikes. And as great as Maddox was,
power pitching wins in the playoffs because you're not gonna
get the just off the black call. You don't. You
gotta throw it over the white. The reason that the
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Seahawks were so good on their march to the Class War,
they were super They would force you to throw a
penalty flag. Sometimes the backfire, but that was their style.
It was made, It was created for the Super Bowl.
Physical teams win in Super Bowl. That's what happened this
year in Super didn't you not watch? It wasn't like
the Rams suddenly had no offense. You ask any Rams
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player or any Rams fail like they were mugging us.
They were hold us. Yeah, that's what happens in the
Super Bowl. And if you go back to the Jordan rules,
since people don't seem to properly understand or articulate what
happened when Michael Jordan's finally won a championship. Michael Jordan
couldn't get past the Detroit Pistons because every time he
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would drive in the lane, they would mug him because
they knew he wasn't did not trust his teammates. He
would not pass the basketball. And when they put in
the triangle offense, it was because they were so brutally
physical with Michael Jordan's he would be forced to pass
the ball and the trian go offense give him proper
spacing so his teammates could make shots. And that one
him six championships. And just like we don't call the
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fouls in the NBA, we don't. We didn't call the
push off on Michael Jordan's when he scored over Brian Russell.
Did We of course not. And if you want to
call the in the neighborhood rule, if you want to
call the running under me rule, that's fine. We're gonna
start calling all the travels and the pushofs as well.
But if I'm tilman for Tita, an incredible businessman who
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was within a whisker of getting to the NBA Finals
last year and his four wins away essentially from getting
to an NBA finals this year, I know it's only
the second round, but we all look at this as
the Western Conference finals. I'm not just embarrassed by the
depth of the report and by the amount of resources
that were expended for this report, the timing of it
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makes it even worse. It makes you seem like whiners
and people who are not accountable for the fact that
you couldn't make a jump shot and you kept taking them.
I'd be embarrassed today. Be sure to catch live editions
so the Doug Got Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern
three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
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Heart Radio app Let's welcome and Jason lack Camphor Jason,
I got I got bigger topics to get to. But
I looked at this list of unsigned currently unsigned free agents,
and I was like, Wow, that seems like some big,
big names. But isn't there a reason that teams are
waiting before they go and get some of these guys? Yeah,
in many cases now, dog after teams have kind of
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got most of the meat off the bone in free agency. Hey,
you're you're waiting it out and waiting for bargains. B
you never know exactly what you're gonna come out of
the draft with. So um, there's some Paull's there. And
then see a lot of these teams now already looking
forward to and they know the free agents they've lost,
and they know the free agents they've signed. And nobody
knows exactly the super double top secret equation that goes
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into awarding compensatory picks. But people have a pretty good idea,
and a lot of these teams are like, if we
give you fair market value, now, we're going to lose
a potential third or fourth round pick um, depending on
the individual circumstances for signing you. And we really want you,
But we really want you May eighth, because then we
can tell you what we think you're worth and what
you think you're worth, and it won't cost us a
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draft pick. Um. It's kind of a byzantine uh system.
It rewards teams for being frugal. The rich tend to
get richer. No one has exploited this system more than
New England, and we all know that they win more
than anybody else. But other teams have caught on and
and now that you can trade compensatory picks, which they
changed a few years ago, they're worth even more because
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you have that same flexibility with those picks come draft
night as you would with any other So that certainly
is playing a role in this and it's it's become
really all the rage. I wrote a column one in
a few months back. Um, you know, kind of like
letting people know it. A lot of these cats are
not going to be signed, and it's not necessarily through
any fault of their own at this point. It's just
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the way that teams are playing the game. They're exploiting
the market where they're able to. And in this case,
you know, it's if that third round pick that those
are gold. You just saw how many trades were made
second day, you know what I mean, over the weekend,
Like that's where you can really make a lot of
make a lot of Hey, um, I want to get
back to the NFL in a second, but there's something
that came came to mind. I was kind of I've
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kind of been on this, hey, educating people as they
watched the NBA. The NBA playoffs are officiated differently than
the regular season. And I remember Sean Payton when he
didn't get the call in the NFC Championship game against
the Rams. You could hear him saying, that's a that's
a super Bowl call. That's a Super Bowl call. Tell
me if I'm wrong. But isn't Is it very well
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known in the in NFL circles that in the Super
Bowl they almost never want to call defensive holding or
pass interference, uh, to kind of slow down and muddy
up the game. Is that is that fair? I mean,
I think the bigger the game, the bigger the stage, um,
the closeness of the game, the lateness of the game.
I mean, officials are human beings. I mean I think
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in in you know, we we we tend to think
that holds true. And and I don't think it's a
football specific thing. I think sports in general, right, the
magnitude of the game and the stakes that high let
them settle it on the field, you know what I mean,
interpret things maybe a little looser than you might. You know,
week two on a you know, one pm Sunday game,
with nine other games going on around the league, there's
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probably something to that. The case though, of this play,
I mean, that was so egregious, you know, I mean,
that wasn't a football no. I I just I understand,
but I'm just I'm relating that it's one of those
like the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year, we're
super super physical with the with the Rams wide receivers,
and people in the league like, yeah, that's how the
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super boy is. They don't like to call penalties, yeah,
and they don't like to call a front of them,
and um, you know, I think we've seen we've seen
that play itself out in big game situations from time
to time. Sure, Okay, so let's start with the Daniel
Jones pick. I know what people on TV and fans
how they're freaking out. What what are people in the
NFL saying about what Dave Gentleman has done. I mean
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it's it's a reach. I mean, there's no doubt about that.
It doesn't mean it's wrong, um, but it's a reach.
And the idea that there were two teams dying to
get in front of them at seventeen for Daniel Jones,
I just don't think that's true. And I don't know
anybody who does think that's true. And maybe that's what
Dave Gentleman's intel was telling him, but that's not what
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anybody else's intel did. This did the Skins wanted because
the Skins everybody said the Skins were split. You know,
there's there's two people who matter in that organization, and
one of them is Dan Snyder and the other ones
Bruce Allen, who push comes to shove, will do whatever
Dan wants. And and Dan has been aware of Haskins.
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Kids were in high school with him at Bullis. I
mean he's been on their radar. I mean you saw
the story he wrote for the Bulls School newspaper. I
mean that probably made its way to Dan Snyder's desk. Okay,
so his mentor, Sean Springs. Sean Springs is pretty close
with Dan Snyder. No no, no, I understand, but what
about the rest of the organization. They like Daniel, they
like Daniel. I didn't say it mattered and that they
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would have drafted. Here's how Redskin's personnel meetings go. Bruce
Allen sits at the end of the table, and guys
make their reports and they stake their case and he
looks at them stoically and he scribbled some things down
and then they move on. There's no quorum, there's no
uh back and forth, there's no engagement, there's no give
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me five reasons why you really love them. You set
your piece and they move on it. When when Shanahan
was there, it was much more um, give and take.
It was much more um asking guys to stump for
players and trying to form a consensus. That's just not
how the process works there, especially not when we're talking
about first round quarterbacks Jason Champford, Joni Us and the
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Doug Gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, there's
there's other teams everybody's talking about. But you know the
Ravens inside and out, and this is the first draft
without Ozzie Knewsom, and they took Hollywood Brown, who freaked talent,
great speed, but I don't how does that fit with
Lamar Jackson, a guy who's not an accurate tour does
have a big arm, but not an accurate thrower, and
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he seems like a guy a wide receiver who would
require a high amount of volume like that. That just
it's not that he's not a good players, not that
he's not talented, but it sure it feels like it
doesn't fit what they would need. Well. I think they
feel like they saw how the Chargers defended them and
pretty much everybody else. And if you've got an eight
eight and a half nine man box, all it takes
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is two over the top. I mean, I don't really
think it's volume. I think it's it's quality um and
not so much quantity. I think the volume will be
screen passes to the kid Hill. I think the volume
will be the two tight ends Andrews and Hayden Hurst,
Andrew more moving the chains and Hurst more um, you
know as that true motion tight end um. You know.
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I think what we snead is volume. I think that
this kid is take the top off, forced them to
be more honest than how they defend us, and when
things break down, you run down the sideline and he
throws at sixty five yards and you get there first.
I mean, I I think it's it's that element. And
if they flash it and it clicks a few times early,
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you better dan believe people are going to change the
way they defend this team. This was an outfit last
year that went six and one down the stretch and
did some dynamic things in the run game. But they
did all that with time Montgomery and you know, Gus
Edwards and Alex Collins and Michael Crabtree and John Brown.
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That that has now turned into you could have a
formation with mark Ingram and Hill both back there um
with you know, in the backfield with Lamar, with Hollywood
Brown coming across. You don't know. If it's a jet streep,
you don't stream, you're sweep, you don't know. If it's
an end around, you don't know. If it's a pitch
play you can and they run misdirection off of that.
I mean, if they were able to run the ball
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like they did last year with just a scheme, a
dynamic quarterback and a bunch of dudes, I'm very intrigued
to see what Greg Roman can do with a group
of four or five, super twitchy four three, four or
four guys now to play around with that is the
antithesis of what they were a year ago. Why did
no one seem to want Josh Rosie right? If the
the is it? I mean, like, look, um, I get
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that he was on the market, and it perks up
your ears when you just drafted a guy, But that
was a late second round pick for a guy who issues,
you know, supposed to issues aside everyone thought looked like
a pro quarter starting quarterback. He had no offensive line
last year, no scheme. There's no way he's the best
quarterback in this draft. Okay, So why was he just
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giving away timing and mismanagement and lack of leverage and
hubris on the part of the cart those and you know,
wasting three months with this BS charade that you've got
this monster decision to make, thinking and hoping against hope
that somebody is going you're somehow going to create this
leverage for Rosen. I mean, they should have just come
out of a combine and this is a Monday morning quarterback.
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You should have come out of combine said you know what,
Kyler Murray measured all we could hope for. He's fits
our system. We're all over for business. At one somebody
wants to trade up. Never say never, but we're gonna
do right by Josh Rosen. We're gonna trade him in
the next seventy two hours. They shouldn't could have done
it before free agency, but you wait till after free agency,
and you wait till teams have already evaluated other quarterbacks
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and fallen in love with them, and then you try
to make a trade like that, Um, going into day two.
I mean, should more teams have been interested? Absolutely to me,
Cincinnati first and foremost they take a developmental risk tight
end in round two. I mean I would have traded
that pick for Rosen all day long. And and that's,
by the way, that would have been classic. And I
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know Marvin Lewis is in the coach there. That was
classic Marvin Lewis back in the day, right. That's how
they became good was they got guys that for pennies
on the dollar, right, Drafting guys cost you anything. He's
a better fit in Zach Taylor's offense right now than
Andy Dalton, and you're only renting Dalton at this point.
I think some teams were shortsighted I think other teams
were already had their eyes you know, like the like
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the Raiders towards and seeing what they could do there.
And and looked there was historic quarterback movement a year ago,
historic trades, historic signings, cousins, you know, eighty three million
guarantee fully guaranteed UM and and just historic number of
quarterbacks taken in the first round. Supply wasn't going to
meet demand. So I don't know how the Cardinals didn't
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see it coming. But um, at the end of the day,
other teams already saw kids on the clock who they
were willing to take. And if you you know, no
one was going to bail them out. No even Miami
was able to trade down, pick up you know, extra picks,
which was genius and get him even lower in the
second round. They had no leverage. Jason lackhamp for are
joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox
(26:02):
Sports Radio. Who's the team that when you talk to
your NFL source, as they say, you know what, those
guys did a really good job. There's a number of them.
You know, this was that there was a lot of
kudos going around. Um, you know what New England was
able to do and continuing to trade down and just
get value, value value, John Schneider turning four picks before
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the Frank Clark trade into like ten afterwards. Not everyone
loved the pass rusher he took in the first round,
but you know, hey, maybe didn't know something other people don't.
And you know, they obviously did it for a reason,
but they were able to address things across the board.
I think people, I mean, Baltimore in Arizona, if you're
gonna go with that type of quarterback, then you better
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give him plenty of dudes who who run like him
and twitch like him, and and they both did that. Now,
it doesn't mean that it will work out, but you
understand the science behind it. You know a lot of
people were enamored um with that. I mean, those are
a few of the teams that come to mind when
Jason looking forward joining us on the Dug out Lip Show.
What people think of the job? Mayock, did you know
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the first pick obviously shocked a lot of people. Um,
it's safe in that that players, you know, relatively safe,
But you know, I don't I don't know that you know,
Cleveland Farrell is going to be a top ten sack
guy the way that Josh Allen might be a lot
of years but but he he fits their mold and
they got him for a bunch of different reasons. Um,
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they loved Josh Jacobs and they were able to get
him without having uh to move around. They took a
couple of thumpers along the way who they like. Um,
you know, I I think, I mean again we we
nobody knows how I mean this is going to turn out.
But they stuck to their guns and made some smart moves.
I think if you compare to what they did a
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year ago at this time, which people conveniently often forget,
you know, trading a three from Mark Quavis Bryant, you know,
the trade down out of ten, you know, they probably
could have handled that situation maybe a little better. And
how I sight, you know, running around signing Jordy Nelson
doing some of the stuff they were doing. Uh, this
certainly seems more sound than that. It definitely does last thing.
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Am I wrong? But what happened with the Kancer Chiefs
on Thursday might have been, um, the biggest thing to
affect the NFL this year. I hope you're right. I'll
believe it when I say it. You know, I'll believe
it when I see some sort of stance or change
or corrective measures coming from it. It should um, But
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the league's on network didn't address it during how many
however many how many hours were they live during the draft?
I mean, and ungodly amount? They never talked about it, right,
not that I'm aware of, Wow, not a whole lot
the league. So you know, Roger Goodell, We're going to
keep looking into it. I mean, you know, well, well,
guess what I mean. The d A reopened the case,
and there's audio of of a young man who to
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this point no one has said, is not this this
this this um, this three year old who's endured this abuse,
saying Daddy did it? And you know the moment the
state steps in and says, right, some a crime was
committed here. We can't prove it right now, but we're
going to give mom supervisor visitation. We're gonna give dad
no rights whatsoever to see this child under any circumstances.
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Like you might think that was the threshold for your cut.
Will worry about your status later. You know, you're not
gonna be playing football for a long time. But we're
not there yet. And Frank Clark got a hundred million
dollars from the same Org team within you know, within
what twenty four hours of the audio coming out Thursday, Jason,
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great stuff. Thanks for your passion and thanks for your information. Appreciate.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Dot
Leaps Show week days at noon eastern three pm Pacific.
Were you guys on social media last night? Did you
do you see that that all of a sudden Lebron
James was talking about answering questions on social media. Fellas,
I think we've gotten to the point where Lebron James board,
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We've got to that place where like, if you had
all the money in the world, all the fame in
the world, you got a couple of kids, you could travel.
You don't have to work for another five months. Yea,
Lebron James, you have You've been to the finals eight
straight years. Now you can go go wherever you want,
do whatever you want. He chooses Twitter on a Monday night,
(30:25):
I like, like, I don't have enough. I don't have
enough time. You know last night yesterday I got home
my son and he hit he wanted he has a
game to day. You want to hit some baseball, hits
some baseballs, ah practice fielding. Wants to play Lottle catcher night.
He's left handed, not really a catcher position, but he
wants to play it. All right, We'll let himlay Lotle
catcher nine. When to practice a little bit. Then we
(30:46):
had basketball practice. Then I get home and we had dinner.
We watched some of the game. I helped move from
furniture in the house. Get the in laws in town,
like I have no time. Here's the dude with the
most time ever and all kinds of money and a family,
and he's in laws as only there's nothing to do,
so are like watch takes some Twitter questions. There's a
(31:09):
guy who loves attention. It's exactly what you think, and
we've all kind of been part of it, but you
often think like, well, it's Lebron. He's got to be
tired of the attention because everywhere he goes it's something
He took the first round off, didn't hear from him,
was on vacation. Then he goes to his son's a
you tournament over the weekend, does whoop it up a
(31:31):
little bit and does some push ups, and as much
as you want to say, nah, Lebron doesn't want attention.
Then you see him tweeting ask him for questions, and
you're like, I guess he does. You're worth a billion
dollars the Monday night. You've got three kids, a wife,
and you live in Los Angeles. I don't know. I
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could think of fifty thou things that I would rather
do other than answer people's questions on Twitter. But he's bored,
which is why he should appear on Inside the NBA
on t NT right now. He should wait until the
Conference finals to do so, but he should definitely do
with that. Definitely definitely do it that. Fox Sports Radio
has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch
(32:13):
all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com
and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s
R to listen live. Grant Hill joins us in the
Doug Gallip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Where were you
during that when when the Bucks are in the Eastern
Conference Finals? Do you remember who you're playing for them?
Was that? Were you with the Pistons? No, I was
with Orlando. I think that was the two thousand, one thousands. Yeah,
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so I was in Orlando. It was our first year there.
I was hurt and we played them in the first
round and we actually beat them, I think, I think
in game two in Milwaukee we beat them and then
they came back I think and beat us in four.
Um in Orlando, it's when Tracy McGrady just went and
(33:00):
totally outplayed big dogs. But uh, they had ray Allen
Sam because said all those names you guys mentioned certainly
brings back good memories. Those are guys from my time.
And uh and May of course went on to that
Eastern Conference finals, so uh that that was a long
time ago, but that that team is back and uh
they got a tough one here coming up here a
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game too. Can I ask you about team Mac Like
he until he was was really late in his career,
and we'll give him credit for being with the Spurs,
but he never got out of the first round. And
I look, I know it's a team game, but and
I know he had Yeahmin got hurt a couple of
different times, and there was some bad luck. But how
how do you never get out of the first round? Yeah,
(33:40):
I mean I don't know. I mean, you know I
was part of that pad luck too in Orlando. Um,
and as talented as as he was, and I wish.
I wish I could have just been right and healthy
at least one of those years. Um. But yeah, I
mean it's just, you know, I don't know, It's just
I think it was tough circumstances. Uh. I know one
of those years, I think two thousand and three with
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the Magic they were up three games the one against
the Pistons, and uh, and the Pistons came back and
won three in a row and ended up, you know,
getting to the Eastern Conference finals themselves, I believe. Um.
But yeah, I mean it's Towns that as the player
we've ever seen and certainly during that generation, and just uh,
you know, just for whatever reason, bad luck, um, you know,
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just circumstances, whatever the case may be, was not able
to get out of that first round until, you know,
until he was in a more of a reserve role
at the end of his career, coming off the bench
and limited minutes with the Spurs. Grant Hill joining us
in the Doug Gallup Show on Fox Sports Trading. I
want to get back to the NBA stuff in a second.
I want to talk about, uh, what you're doing, because
this is, uh, this is an incredible campaign. It's really
(34:49):
really important it's called choices matter, and it's it's having
an open conversation about the opioid epidemic that's plagued our country.
I would throw all your surgeries. I assume that you
were given opioids after each one of these procedures, right, Yeah,
that's a that's a fair assumption. I was, uh, doug.
I had eleven surgeries during my career, and um, you
(35:12):
know everyone until the last one, the last surgery, uh,
the end. Actually when I was done playing after my
I retired on my knee. Um, that was the first
time that I was introduced to this long acting numbing
medication and uh, and so my post surgical process or recovery,
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there was no opio opioid use. And thankfully all that
exposure I had, I never you know, never developed any
type of addiction to them or anything like that. But
I just didn't like the way they made my body feel.
And that was the part I dreaded was always immediately
after surgery, managing your pain and having to take these
pills to do that. And so having gone through that
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on my last surge, I was like, wow, like this
is amazing and and so really, what we're doing with
choices matter. It's just exposing patients to this particular procedure
and letting them know that there's an there's an alternative. Uh,
there's an option there that you don't have to expose
yourself self to opioids. We have a prescription over prescribing
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issue in our country. Um, and people, I think one
in three people who are considering surgery are worried about
taking opioids. So here's an alternative, no medication. Take it
from someone who's had plenty of surgeries, Um that this
is by far, in terms of recovery, the best. And
so I appreciate you giving us your platform at least
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talk about it. And um, you know, people can go
to the website and read up more about about that. Yeah,
it's Planning against Planning its pain plan p l a
N Against Pain p ai n dot com is the website.
So wait, it's a it's another medication. It's a procedure
so you don't need it, so you don't feel the pain. Like,
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how does it? How does it work? Yeah? I mean
it's it's it's it's kind of like it's this numbing thing, uh,
numbing medication. Uh that basically numbs the paint and it
does it for for four days post surgery, so you know,
that's the period of time when you have the most paint.
And usually after four or five days, the paint subsides,
(37:27):
and you know, you can you've been giving all these
pills and you're kind of like, we'll manage it, and
you know, and you end up taking them longer than
you should. And so I know when I had a
surgery on my knee, and after four days, as the
numbing medication wore off, um, I didn't feel anything and
I didn't have any pain, and I was like, wow,
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like this is I wish this was around a few
years ago when I when I had more surgeries. But um,
so yeah, I mean I experienced it. I felt it,
I went through it, and and I didn't see, you
know that the way that the opioids make you feel.
You know, I didn't have that, just headache and my
stomach hurting. I didn't throw up or you know, not
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to be graphic, but I didn't get sick. And um,
you know, and as athletes, you you're very much in
tune with your body, and all of a sudden you're
putting something in there that that that's essentially poison, your
body is going to react a certain way, and it
certainly did with me. Um so I was relieved by it.
I couldn't believe it. And uh and then years later,
obviously the opportunity to to work with with them on
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on getting this out here, on this Choices Matters campaign
is something that I'm I'm excited to be a part of.
It's playing against pain dot Com Hall of Famer Grant
Hill joining us do glip show here Fox Sports Radio.
What do you make of Houston's not just complaints about
the deficiating. We've seen that before, but they actually use
their analytics department to reportedly go back and look at
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game seven and and and give them points for fouls
that were not called in their in their favor. As
a guy who played in this league, now an owner,
a partial owner of a team in this league, and
an analyst for this league, what do you think of
the reaction to some of the miscalls in Game one? Well,
you know, initially does I thought it was like, as
you said, posturing the gamesmanship. We've seen it time and
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time again, year after year, where a game happens and
maybe a coach goes to the press conference and complains
about the officiating maybe gets fined the same with players,
So that's nothing new. Um, but I think taking it
a step further with the analytics, I guess it shows
you you can always, um, you know, you can always
sort of justify your your your case or your point
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or your position with with numbers and analytics. Uh. Not
that I'm against analytics. I embraced analytics and they play
a role. But UM, the thing I worry about with Houston,
they played really well. They played well enough to possibly
win that game. Um, you can't do anything about it now,
and you know you have to sort of move on
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and get yourself ready and prepared for that next game.
And you just get the sense that they haven't let
it go, and you worry is that going to be
too much of a distraction for them? Uh? You know,
we always know that, you know, game one on the road,
you can always try to steal that game. We also
know that Golden Stages came off of a pretty tough
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series against against l A. I do worry are they
gonna be mentally focused and prepared here for game two?
Um one, the Warriors are gonna be I think maybe better.
But all this talk and just not you know, not
moving forward and getting themselves in the right frame of mind.
So look, I've been wrong before, and they very well
could use that as fuel and go out and have
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a great game. But I think it's a little bit
too much. If you ask me, I would I would
agree with you. Um, what's your take on how KD
is playing? Um, you know, I've I've thought he's the
best player in the game for a couple of years now.
Most people, many people have rebuffed that and said, but
still Lebron maybe until this year. It's hard because Lebron
is not playing now, but it feels like he's taking
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the challenge of the early Clippers games and just showing us, uh,
how how good he is. What's your sins for Kevin
Durant and what's happened over this last kind of four
or five game stretch. Yeah, I agree, I mean, you know,
I think I think he's the best player. I mean,
and respectfully to Lebron, I think Lebron dominated in a
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different way. I mean, I think Lebron was you know,
he's Lebron, you know, I mean, he's versatile, he does everything.
But I don't know if there's a player that's that unguardable. Um.
I mean, and I've guarded all these guys and obviously
Durant when he was a little bit younger and maybe
not even as good as he is now. But you know,
he can put it on the floor. He can, he
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can shoot over you. He can you know, off the dribble,
get to the basket, get to the free throw a line.
You know, he doesn't post up, you know, because he
has a wiry frame and um, and that's the one
area of domination that he hasn't, um really developed. But
everywhere else. Um, he was that one guy that I
know years ago when I guarded him when he was younger,
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you could do everything right and play perfect defense. And
because of his length and his quick release, I mean,
he would just shoot right over you and and there
was nothing you could do about it. And um, but yeah,
I mean, right now, he's playing as good as I've
ever seen him play. He's efficient. Um, he's sort of
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mastered their system and figuring out his spots and UM,
he's just he's playing with confidence, and they're and they're
writing him and uh, it's really a lot of fun
to watch. If I let you write, go ahead, I'm sorry,
but I say it's fun to watch. If if if
you're not a fan of the team he's playing. No question,
if I let you write the rules on on playoff
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basketball in terms of landing area, and how would how
would you? What do you think is fair? Because you've
been a shooter and you've been the defender, right like
you were a two end player and a really good
one at at both. Obviously, if you could rewrite the rules,
I just said, Grant Hill, he knows the game. He's
he's an you know, he's a partial owner, he's an analyst,
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he's a player. He's played against all of the best
of the best of the best. He knows all the
tricks to the trade at both ends of the floor.
What's the fairest way to officiate a game? Well, I
mean it's tough. I mean I'm I'm okay with the
rules as they are now. Um, the question is is
you know is enforcing those rules? And and there was
a lot of commotion and look, officials are you know
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they're not going to get it right all the time?
I thought, Um, I thought that last shot was a
clean play. And you know, look, I'm sensitive. I had
issues injuries. Um, you jumping up somebody purposely putting their
feet under you, like that's a dirty play and and
that is uncalled for. I don't think that was on
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any of the plays even throughout the game. Was the intent?
I think you look, you got a great player in
heart and you're trying to contest him and distract him
from from scoring. Um, but you want to protect the
shooter her in those cases. Um, you know, I think
you have to be consistent. I think you know that.
You know, if you want to give the officiating crew
that night credit, they were consistent and not calling that. Um.
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But I think you want to protect players, particularly really
good ones who you know, if if Harden gets hurt
on a play like that, then, uh, you know that
that that's just a bad look for everybody, uh involved.
We want James Harden playing and playing at his best
in the playoffs, as fans, as owners, as as as
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everyone associated with the NBA. So, UM, I don't mind
the rule. I just think you got to enforce it.
And I didn't think that they were consistently uh calling
that throughout the game. And look, Houston has a valid point,
but you gotta move on, you know, And Uh, I
do think playoff stball in general, I don't mind it
being a little bit more physical. I don't mind. Actually,
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I don't mind in general the game getting back to
being more physical. And I think back in the nineties, Uh,
it was tough to watch because it was too physicals.
But I think the skill level has increased tremendously, uh
since then. No, no, no, that's my radar, detective. I'm
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sorry about that. But I do believe that the skill
level overall and the shooting and the scoring is so
much better than what it was some years ago, and
at almost as like it's it's too much of a
disadvantage to the defense. So I think, you know, maybe
putting in or allowing for a little bit more physicality,
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um might be a good thing, because I think it's
maybe gone a little too far where it just gives
all the advantage to the offense and you're almost penalized
if you're trying to play good defense, no question, because
you get to go like I would I picture you
now if you were playing now, you'd be like in
a honest type of role, right like you had not
yet at that point be developed in you know, even
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in your prime is a great three point shooter, but
somebody would have smartly given you the ball, played point
power point forward and put four shooters around you and
the lane is wide open. I mean, think of think
of the straight line drives that you'd be able to
or get by guys with when there's no power forward
and center in the lane. And if anybody touches you,
it's a foul. I mean, it's really really kind of
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Everyone talks about it being a shooters game, but if
you have shooters and you have a great ball handling
athlete like yourself or Lebron or Jannice like those guys
are really hard to guard because you can't put a
hand check on to slow him down. That's it. I mean, look,
I thought about that. I played in sort of multiple errors,
and you know, I remember trying to guard Michael Jordan's
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and being allowed to to use my eyes and and
and and and what little strength I had to try
to stop them. And then I also remember guarding you know,
Kobe Bryant, Lebron and Carmelo and all those guys. At
the end of my career, you couldn't touch him and
uh and so uh not an indictment on players today
versus players back then. Um, but I just think I think, um,
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it's different. It's different in a lot of ways. And
I sometimes like, wow, if if if when I'm my
slasher days and attacking the rim and and then you know,
middle mid range game to be able to to play
now where if you just breathe on somebody, you get
you know, you get called for a foul. Um I
would have you know, I'm salivating thinking about it. Um. So,
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but yeah, I mean it's a different game. You you
see it was you honest. I mean, look last year
he had a really good year, and was it was
you know, maybe in the m v P consideration. Um,
But now you bring in you know, you bring in
Bud and you spread the floor, you shoot more threes,
and you're bringing the big guys like Merritage and Lopez
and now those quarters really space with shooters and you
can't touch him, and so it just it puts the
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defense out of disadvantage in more ways than one. And
and I'm not opposed to that. Um, I just I
don't know, I just feel like it's it's gotten a
little bit out of balance. It was two two in
favorable of the defense back in the nineties and now
I think it's too too in favor of too in
favor of of the offense now. And then they kind
of try and level back out in the playoffs, and
that's when guys struggle to react, like, hey, the whole season,
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it's been a different way than than than than it
is now. Grant, I appreciate not just joining us, but
what you're doing with choices matter. Again, that's playing against
Paine dot com. Thanks for joining us. Good to catch up.
Let's catch up in person sometime soon. Let's do it. Doug,
thanks for having me. I appreciate you. Grant Hill.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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