June 22, 2020 • 41 mins
Doug reacts to the NASCAR drivers joining driver Bubba Wallace in solidarity after a noose was found in his garage stall. He also tells you why people who think Dak Prescott is being “disrespected” are completely wrong. Plus, MLB Columnist Scott Miller joins the show to tell Doug the latest in negotiations between the players and the owners.
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I do think there are moments in which you have
to adjust. Um, I'm gonna tell you something I really
like about how this time slot and how I've always
done a radio show. Right. There are many radio there.
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There are I know, a very successful radio show not
on this network in which the host and has he
has people help him, rights the show, and it's very
well written, it's entertaining, it's been good for a long time.
I'm not I'm not necessarily taking a shot at it.
I'm just only pointing out the biggest flaw to that
style is what do you do when something happens? Can
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you adjust? Can you react? And by my estimation, the
um and every time slot is different. This one we're
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we get the stories of the morning, and we get
to also forecast more for the evening, and very occasionally,
like today, for example, we get a story in the
middle of the day where we're gonna change. Okay, I'll
tell you about Dak Prescott up coming in fifteen minutes.
But there's something symbolic taking place at Talladega. Talladega Motor Speedway,
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of course, is in Alabama. We I wasn't joking. I
thought maybe it be cool to go there, considering it's
a Fox race, and you know, although only five thousand
spectators can get in and forty four I think r
vs can get in. The fact is that because of Fox,
you know, I might be able to pull some strings.
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I've been tested and tested negative. Maybe you get in.
Yesterday's race, of course, was canceled because rain, so they're
gonna race today Yesterday though before the race, there was
a Confederate flag that was flown on the back of
some private little prop airplane. And to add insult to injury.
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Bubba Wallace, who's a black driver, reportedly found a noose
when he got back to his garage. UM, a noose
is pretty much the most offensive I'm trying. I can't
think of anything more offensive to a black man to
find than a newse. I I don't have to explain
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the association to you. You have a brain, you're able
if you're smart enough to tune into a national sports
radio show, and I get that that on some level
you want to get away and just talk about sports.
But on some level, this is where sports and whether
it's politics or racism, do intercede. The reason I wanted
to change because this was all well known, UM is
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because right now they're doing the Star Spangled banner and
oh yeah, by the way, while uh, everyone of the
drivers are standing in attention with their hands over their heart,
they also walked out following Bubba Wallace and his car.
It's a very symbolic thing taking place. I know. I
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know how the news makes you feel. I know how
videos make you feel. You feel when you watch something
on video, you think everybody's doing it right. And I
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actually understand NASCAR and they're play a great deal. I
do think that many of their fans and most of
their drivers. I would like to believe, like the rest
of America are not in fact racists, but because there have,
because it's been essentially a white sport, a white male sport.
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It's a seen as the sport of the South because
we've seen Confederate Like you, the idea that you had
to put a rule that there's no Confederate flags tells
you kind of all you need to know, right, and
then on top of it, like a noose, it's like
what what? Look? Let me speak for the rest of America.
I cannot understand what it's like to be black in
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America because I'm not black, but as a white person,
and whoever the white people are, the people are, they're
doing these things. You can feel free to walk off
a cliff because you're you're making We have a great country,
we have awesome sports, we have good people. And when
I look at this, I note I I note that
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point nine percent of human beings are good human beings
that want nothing more than their kids to live safe, healthy, happy,
and grow up and grow strong and have a better
life than they have. But the point oh one percent,
which again do the math right or so million people
in our country. That's actually a lot more people than
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uh point one percent or point five percent actually feel like.
But those people, you suck and we'd like you to
go away. And I do think that I don't know
how every guy feels, but the idea that an entire
sport is gonna sit here and go like this said,
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we've had enough of this um powerful symbol powerful symbolism
in their supportive bubble walls. It just the the whole
I don't know, this is the whole thing strikes me
as I mean, completely and totally stupid. I don't even
understand the Confederate flag thing. It's like, there's no argument
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you can make. They lost, it's all it's been over
for a long time. In addition to the symbolic nature
of what it says to people of color, just the
idea that you'd fly a flag when you lost. You know,
I don't that that one. You're gonna have a tough
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time getting past those two elements of it to me,
But you know, this is this is NASCAR. The first
step in fixing a problem is admitting you have a problem.
And while I was surprised that the Confederate flags had
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to there had to actually be a rule that went
down that somebody didn't think enough to go like, hey,
maybe I shouldn't fly this thing. Maybe this is probably
not you know, by the way, the king's out there,
Richard Petty. There's lots of kings in different sports like
Barry Switzer king and college football. Right, Michael Jackson is
the king of pop and I do know he races
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for I think Richard Richard Petty racing right. Uh, Elvis,
is you know the king an interesting interesting day? I
mean wait, there was what in his locker? How is
that even possible? The The only proof of someone's level
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of stupidity is there's there's a limited number of people
that have access to a garage, especially right now, and
I'm guessing there are cameras everywhere, but I want to
be very careful is to not let's not call like
all NASCAR fans racist or whoever, like that's one idiot.
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gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon
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a app. Charles Robinson's our Guest's NFL reporter for Yahoo
Sports check out the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. Um, why
do you think Dak we're only here at at you know,
end of June, although I'm like the days are starting
to drag, Why do you think he would relent and
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sign a franchise tag? Now? I have a seri I
but I don't know that it's this is not based
on anything. There you go in terms of how I
would look at this tactically. Um, if the Cowboys are
you know, if you're the Cowboys and you're thinking about
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trading for Jamal Adams and there has to be salary
considerations there, it becomes a lot more difficult when Dak
locks that money onto your cap, as opposed to Dak
not having locked that money onto your cap, which would
give you breathing room until when July to do a
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deal to get an extension done or whatever. But if
Dak Prescott were to lock that money in now, it's
significantly curbs the amount of money that Dallas has to
play with if it was to say, decide to make
a run acquiring Jamal Adams in a trade and potentially
doing a deal with Jamal Adams. Now, if you're gonna
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do that, you probably have to get an extension done
with with Dak Prescott first to try and alleviate some
of that upfront money. So that and again that's completely
just a theory on my my part that it puts
more more pressure on the Cowboys to have to come
to the table. It's interesting here, here's what I've heard
regards of Jamal Adams. It's that the Jets don't have
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to trade him, don't necessarily want to trade him, and
he can't go anywhere else. But one of the one
of their reluctance to pay through the roof is not
just the fact that you gotta put a team around him,
but no one knows what the salary caps gonna look
like next year and beyond. We don't. We don't know
if they'll be fans in the stands, we don't, we don't.
There's so much unknown that it would be unw It
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would be an unwise financial risk too, when you don't
need to to re up a guy to uh, the
biggest contract of safety had ever seen when you don't
know what the salary caps gonna do. Yeah, I mean, look,
that's true, but I would say, honestly, that's probably a
third or fourth consideration for the Jets like at this
point because look for the Jets, they've looked at like,
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if you're the Jets, you sit down, you look historically
players who defensive players who have gotten a deal an extension,
a first round pick who have who have gotten extensions
after three years. Well, there are guys of magnitude who
had to play through four years before they got their
big deals. Aaron Donald, Okay, Khalil Mack like, people who
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literally won Defensive Player of the Year awards before getting
their contract extension and they had to play through a
fourth year. Um. So that's one consideration, the fact that
you you had game changing edge rushers who not only
were first team All Pros, but we're defensive players of
the Year who got paid and had to play through
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four years. So he's putting himself ahead of that group.
Number one by saying, hey, I wanted after three years.
He's a safety. Number two. Now, I know safeties are
used in a multitude of ways a different league now,
especially safety like him. He's not your quote unquote traditional
box safety. He's a He's a versatile safety who can
play in the box. I get all that, um, but again,
I don't know that he is the player of magnitude
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to all of a sudden just get get it after
three years. Um, So that's that's part of the consideration.
Another part of the consideration, it was hanky at the
trade deadline last year when all of a sudden, um,
you know, the Cowboys are checking in to see if
Jamal atoms someone who that you know, who could potentially
be gotten in the trade and on all this flood
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of information comes out, um from reporters who surround the
Cowboys orbit about Jamal Adams, you know, potentially being on
the trade deadline trade block for the for the Jets,
which upset the Jet um because he wasn't necessarily on
the trade block. The Cowboys called and the Jets picked
up the phone, and then it seemed like the Cowboys
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lead that information to maybe poison the well. Um, yeah,
you know that. Will McClay okay, who's in personnel with
the Cowboys, has a close relationship with George Adams, Jamal
Adams Dad. Okay. There's just a lot of stuff going
on in the background with the Jamal Adams deal. And
I think Jamal Adams, what the number he's trying to
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get to from the Jets is not just resetting the
safety market. It's resetting the safety market considerably. Then you
get to the realities of where the salary cap could
be going next year. So it's there's a lot there's
many layers here, but a lot of messed up stuff
kind of tied into no, no question about it. And
it's it's going to be fascinating no matter how valuable
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with safety is, and they're very, very valuable, especially in
in this NFL. If you can cover uh, it's it's
is it really are you? And and the idea of
re saying the market sounds good until you realize that
you don't actually have the leverage that you want unless
you're willing to sit out a here. And that literally
has happened once and that was Levan who lost money
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in the end because of it. So it's it's gonna
be fascinating. Charles Robinson joining us UH, senior NFL reporter
for Yahoo Sports. What is the actual likelihood that Colin
Kaepernick ends up in a camp? Um? Man, I you know,
somebody asked me this a couple of months ago or
about a month ago when all this you know, kind
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of started, and um, yeah, I guess it a month
ago and uh, and I said zero. You know, I
still thought it was zero. But you know, look, I
do think that there is some stuff's going on. You know,
I think that there's league pressures being exerted. Why say
league pressures being exerted out mean that leagues leaning on teams.
I think the league is looking for teams that might
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be interested in in Kaepernick and trying to figure out
a way to get dialogue started in a way that
that doesn't go bad for a team. So, for example,
say you're a team that is potentially interested in looking
at him, but you're afraid of like, hey, we look
at him and we don't like what we see, or
we want to back away. We don't want to get
shelved for it, we don't want to get destroyed for it.
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So we're afraid, you know, to to to step out.
Is there some way maybe the league could facilitate this um?
You know, so, I look, I still think it's extremely low,
I think, but I do think that, you know, the
league is an active participant in trying to see if
maybe you know, there's a team out there that that
is willing to bring him in and give a good
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look at him in in camp, now even that is
you know, teams have to go through the process of
considering like, hey, we want to get a good look
at him, but then can we make a football decision.
On the other end of it, Could we cut Colin
Kaepernick at the end of camp because we don't think
he played well enough? Then what happens to us. We
get celebrated at the beginning, Hey we signed Colin Kaepernick.
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Everybody's happy, and then we got to cut him because
we don't We actually think that three year layoff was
too much and he's not where he needs to be.
So you know, there's it's it's a complicated question, I
think from both ends, but I will say this, I
do believe I don't think this is fake on Kaepernick
sent I believe he wants to play. I believe he
wants to play. I believe he wants to be in
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the NFL. And I believe he thinks that he is
still um a guy who can eventually ascend to a
starting job, that he can be a starting quarterback in
the NFL. It's going to be fascinating because I've heard
exactly it's like, what would we be popular for signing? Yes,
but could we cut him, and and you know, like
how it? How it? In addition, could he actually be
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a backup? Right? Everybody wants to be a starter, but
you have to have a completely different mentality to be
a backup because no one, no one, no one wants
the backup quarterback to be more popular than the starter.
This is in college football. That's not the way it works.
There's only one leader and there are no starting jobs available.
Just ask Cam Newton. Which is why I think the
team matters and I think the starter matters. I so
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people have asked me, like, you know, ballpark it, what
do you think is a situation that would really work
well for in Baltimore? Straight up? But but how how?
How could the owner? How why would the owner do
that after after the meme that his girlfriend put out there?
Like okay, yeah, you're right, Okay, I get it. You
want to you know, we talk about what NSSA did.
I I totally understand that, but that was three years ago.
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A lot of changed in three years. No, no, I
I get it. But there has never been any sort
of apology, nor do I believe there will be any
sort of apology for for the meme. And and like
they have they have our G three. I can, I can.
I share with you the team. I think it works
most for Okay because I do. Look, I realized his
former offensive coordinators there. It totally makes sense. He's not
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replacing Lamar Jackson, no matter how if Lamar Jackson struggles
this year, I get it. There's there's two. But the
best possible scenario is Kansas City. Okay, same idea. You
gotta lead m v P. You got a super Bowl champion.
He is not replacing Pat Mahomes. It doesn't matter how
you know, it does not. But and you, Reid is
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rehab Mike Vick's image. You know, whatever you think of
Colin Kaepernick's image because of kneeling, he does need some
image rehab in terms of leadership and quarterback play or whatever.
There'll be no no force to play him. And oh yeah,
by the way, if he could learn and thrive in
that system. In practice, Andy Reid protegees are spread throughout
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the NFL, in places like Chicago and Philadelphia and and
other places as well. The only other one would be
the Houston, Texans. Uh. Bill O'Brien could use some good
public city. He too, already has a guy who no
one would argue is ever going to be replaced by
Colin Kaepernick? Straight up? Houston is is the two, the
number one. The best possible scenario for the league and
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for Kaepernick to me would be Kansas City. I I
don't I don't disagree with Kansas City like I think
Kansas City is a is a logical landing spot like
and I think it. I would say though that in
terms of the schemes that are run and and again
this is Andy Reid. He can tailor to whoever he wants,
and he can he can make it work. Again, it
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comes down to the mind of the head coach or
who's running that offense. So I get it. Absolutely, Kansas
City can work. Absolutely. The reason why I say Baltimore though, is, uh,
you know the depth of knowledge that I have, not
only in what Greg Roman offensive coordinator obviously that was
the peak of Kaepernick's career in San Francisco, but you
have a head coach who very much I think I
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don't know if you know. Look, have I talked to
to John Harbor about this? You know? Recently? No, But
I can tell you that over the last three years,
the one one of the head coaches who felt strongest
about Kaepernick needing to be in the league and deserving
it and being like befuddled at why he wasn't was
John Harbaugh, his father, Jack Harbaugh, his brother Jim Harbaugh,
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Like it's you have essentially an entire family's sitting there
going this guy, this guy should be in the league.
Why is he not in the league? I I get it.
I just I can't believe an owner would be made
to look that way. And I mean that would be
a that that would that would be an about face
that I just don't know. And oh yeah, by the way,
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they had to get rid of r G three. Who
knows that system has been in that system? Oh yeah,
I don't. Hey, hey, I'm not I'm not. I I
get it what you're saying. I totally understand that. But
I also didn't think I would hear Roger Cadell ever
say we the National Football League were wrong for not
listening to play you know, I mean things. I can
only say that things have happened in the last two
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weeks that I was like, that will never happen, and
then things happened, and so it's just hard for me
to completely deforce. Look, Bill O'Brien and again you're talking about,
you know, may rest in peace. Bob McNair passing away,
cal McNair takes over the Houston Texans and Bill O'Brien
steps up and says, you know what, I'm gonna make
a statement today, and he gets on a zoom call
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and he makes like a ten minute statement about how
he feels about what's going on with police brutality and
all these different things. And I sat there, and I
live in Houston. My jaw was on the floor, like
I was like, whoa this is? This is? This is
not It's like I never thought like I would see
this happen. But the environment changed around Bill O'Brien and
he felt, I've got the ability to do this. I
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want to do this. This is where I'm aligned. I
feel like it's something I want to say, and he
did it. So I I guess I've just seen enough
things happened that I thought were impossible that I could
see see Steve Bashatti. And again I'm not saying something
couldn't happen behind the scenes or whatever, or there wouldn't
be a man culpa, but um, you know, is it
possible for me to believe Steve Maschatti would go, hey,
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no one forever. The fact that they have r G
three there. I mean, you're right, there are other factors
there that obviously make it less likely. And I'm just
saying in terms of fit, yeah, I think Baltimore is
not a bad place. Yeah, no, no, I I agree
with you. Unfit, that's what. But that's to me, that's
the the untold part of the story, right, is we
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we go back. We every you know, he got non
non football people or not people who follow it like
you and I do. And obviously you've done it for
a lot longer and a lot more in depth than
I have. But if you don't follow it, you're like,
oh he kneeled, he was out a league Like No,
it's more complex than that. You almost always go where
you know the system, where you have a relationship. The
only place in the league that he had that was Baltimore,
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and he he told napalmed it right. He went to Seattle,
he visited there. I have no doubt that Russell Wilson
was like, no, thanks, dude, that's not I'm not having
that as my backup. I've had enough trouble, you know,
in terms of leadership here plus he said he wanted
to be a starter and that's not the way to
get a backup job, right, so nobody knew how much.
But all that aside, I agree with you, Baltimore is
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the fit. Uh and especially with Lamar, he's not gonna
be the starter unless God forbid Lamar gets hurt playing
you know, sand football in front of a jet ski
or something like like you did a week ago. Um,
but but I just I don't know, man, Steve Bashotti
doing a one eighty, that would be that would be
a bigger one eighty than we saw from Goodell, which
which was which was a big one. I agree, Oh listen,
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I agree. And that look, that's that's a tent pole
moment in the Kaepernick story. What what happened with NESSA? Okay,
Like I don't there's no disagreement there whatsoever. And um,
you know, I just it's hard for me just to
discount anything anymore. You know, I I'm kind of out
of the discounting business because I, like I said, a
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month ago, I was asked straight up by some people
like is is he getting back? And I said, no,
no way, Like there's no way he's gonna get back
in the league and I laid it out and probably
two weeks later I was like, oh, that might have
been a bad call. This might be changing. Yeah, I
would agree with when when he threw last year, he
looked it looked like he was playing catch. It didn't
look like he had a great feet obviously, you know,
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deciding when the NFL, you know, tried to let him happen,
went all of the pushback over a simple workout. I
was like, no way, that that's it. That's the that's
that's the that's the the end of it. But now
you you never know. Charles, I hope you're well, can't wait?
Do we have actual football in the meantime. Thanks so
much for joining us. We'll make sure to check out
Charles Yahoo Sports NFL podcast from Fallum on Twitter at
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Charles Robinson. Charles, Thanks again. Absolutely be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Scott Miller joins us
MLB columnist or Bleacher Report at Scott Miller b B,
Big B, Little B L is the Twitter handle. All right, Scott,
one final vote before the commissioner says enough and we're
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gonna play baseball based upon the people you've spoken with,
do you believe that the players will agree to the
sixty game season. Yeah, I think it's fifty. Um, I
think it should be a really close vote. I don't
think it's I think there's a chance, and but yet
I don't think it's a slam dunk. Um. That said,
I do believe either way we are going to see
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baseball back on the field in some way, shape or form,
whether it's a fifty four game schedule sixty game schedule
late July, August, September. And I also think, going back
to what you just said a little while ago about
people freaking out, um, you know, I mean, we've had
an interesting seventy two hours in baseball, and that on Friday,
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word came that five Phillies players minor leaguers but unidentified,
and three staffers in clear Water at their spring training
site tested positive for the coronavirus, and close by in Dunedin, Florida,
some Blue Jays in their camp tested positive. So to
your point, a lot of people I think immediately like,
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oh my god, baseball so much for that, we k
that baseball is gonna have to cancel and that's not
the case. I think what you said is important. Regarding
the COVID nineteen. Baseball has canceled all its spring training sites.
I mean they've shut them all down for now to
disinfect and to sanitize. But going forward, this is gonna
be all about if they can get in agreement, and
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whether it's agreement or Manford ordering the game back on
the field. As I said, I think we will see
the game back on the field, and then it's all
going to be about managing the COVID nineteen. Because you're
exactly right, we're not going to go through the baseball season,
but football season anything with Okay, we have so many
health protocols in place that nobody's going to test positive.
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There will be positive tests. The question is if all
of a sudden of the league test positive, well then yeah,
they're gonna have to shut it down. But if it's
a lesson, you know, if it's a it's all about
managing the numbers and quarantine eating those who test positive.
And I think baseball and it seems like other sports
are prepared that that's how we're going to have to
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do it, and that's what we're gonna do. Okay, so
what will baseball. Let let's say they agree to this
deal because they have to. What does this deal look? What?
What does what does baseball look like for this year? Well,
then it will look unlike anything we've ever seen before
in Major League Baseball. Logistically, it'll be the shortest season
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including strike seasons, you know, whatever, the number ends up
being sixty games season. Let's just say that there's gonna
be universal d H. We're going to see the Designated
hitter and National League for the first time ever. UH. Scheduling.
Teams will stay in their geographic regions and so like.
For example, UM, Nationally West teams will play Nationally West
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for the most part, and they'll have a handful of
inter league games, but those will be against American League
West teams. So, in other words, the Western divisions will
all play the Western Divisions, Central Divisions play the Central,
Eastern play the Eastern. UM and within all that, UH,
it sure looks like we're going to have some wacky
rules like that have been floated this summer and such
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as you hit the tent ending any extra endings, you
start with the runner at second base. UM, and I
think basically baseball is looking at, say take that rule
in particular, and they're they're gonna say, let's try that
and others and we'll see what, you know, since it's
such a crazy schedule, short season anyway, and we'll just
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do different things that we've never been allowed to do
in this sport, and we'll see what works, what doesn't,
what people like, what people don't, and then they'll sort
it out from there. Doug Gotlix show here on Fox
Sports Radio. How does this affect the contract the CBA
negotiations in the future, You know, I think that's why
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Rob Manford and the owners. Manford's doing everything he can
to cut a deal with the players instead of unilaterally
ordered the game back on the field. I think part
of there are two reasons for that. One. That's why
Manford's always worked. He's he's always thought it's better to
negotiate a deal. When Bud Selig was still commissioner, Manford
was his point man for the last couple of collective
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bargaining agreements that see and the players got done, and
Manford as a result, because of that, baseball is on
an unprecedented run of twenty five years of labor piece
right now, and Manfred his fingerprints are all over that.
So now fast forward to where he's commissioner, and he
from experience understands it's better to negotiate than than it
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is to use my commissioner powers in order the field
the players on the field. So so the next c
b A, this current one expires after one season, so
they're gonna have to start negotiating again within the next
few months. And I think Manford certainly understands if we
can get something done short term right now for this season.
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As rough as relations are right now between players and owners,
and they're not good there, I'd say they're they're worse
than any time since players don't trust the owners. Owners
are getting frustrated the players for various reasons. Um. That said, Um,
it's not that if they get an agreement to get
back on the field this season, all of a sudden,
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everybody's going to be singing Kumbaya. But Manford understands that's
still a better way to go entering the negotiations they're
going to have to start very soon. Then if they
can't reach an agreement, he orders the game back on
the field, then the relations are going to get even worse,
and they're going to start from an even worse place
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when they pick up talks for the CBA that expires
after Scott Miller, major League Baseball columnist for Bleacher Report,
He's done it for a long time. There's a great job,
he joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Boards Radio. Let's assume it gets done. Let's assume we
have a season, we have these new rules. What what
do you think is going to be the most interesting part?
Because I don't know how many regular sports fans know
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that baseball had changed to where you know, you had
to face three batters unless, of course you come in
the middle of the inning. You know, there's some of
the rule changes. Um, you know, the d H the
playing against like this. There's a lot of good Scott
that could come from this. Um. I know that baseball
loves the a L and the n L. But the
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idea of you know, if you want to put people
in the seats playing, you know, change what the league's
are like. What to you is the most interesting part
of the actual game play and how it will work
within within baseball. Yeah, and and and to your point, Doug,
the in terms of the National American leagues being separate
really once they instituted inter league play, which started in
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so that's like a long time ago, right, that's twenty
one years, twenty two years ago. Once that started, really
the line of demarcation between the American National League disappeared.
So there's still the separate leagues, but really in name only.
And the only difference because they there's interleague play every
year now. Uh, the only difference is that the National
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League hasn't had the d H. So you know, almost
by definition, that's gonna be both interesting and radical change
this year. And some team. The interesting thing within that
as well is remember when we last were all at
spring training in February and March, the National League was
not going to have a d H. The d H
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all of a sudden, this is a very last minute thing.
So some teams are going to be better equipped in
the National League to have a d H than others.
And you know, for example, the Los Angeles Dodgers, remember
when they made the Mookie Betts trade right before spring training.
During those negotiations, they had traded Jack Peterson the Los
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Angeles Angels, and then all of a sudden, as when
the first itineration of the Bets deal got canceled, that
did as well. Then they eventually did get the best
steal done. But Jack Peterson, who knew he was gonna
be with the Angels, all of a sudden that deal
got canceled. Jock's back with the Dodgers. That ends up
being fortuitous because this guy that hit thirty home runs
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last year and had a pretty good offensive season, And
now that there's a d H in the National League.
You know, with as far as the Dodgers are concerned
that the rich get richer, that they already have great depth,
but but now that they didn't trade Jack Peterson, that
he's gonna come in really handy as a d HL.
The DH is gonna be fascinating. Um, you know the
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extra rating rules. I I hope they don't stick long term,
but you know, I get it for this year. Also,
they're talking three substitution and extra intings, which is something
we've never seen. Guys could come back in back in
even if they what is for for people who haven't
been following, what will what will extraly things look like
this year with these rules? Right? So a runner will
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be on second base to start the tenth ending for
each at bat, uh and the design of that is
so that we don't get eighteen nineteen analysts inning games. Um,
so that's that. And and free substitution is what they're
looking at two, which again never been done. And for
that is you know, for the casual baseball fan, Uh,
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you don't. Traditionally, once a baseball players subbed out, he
can't go back into the game. And and that's part
of what makes the National League managerial decisions and well
all managerial decisions so fascinating because a manager, if he's
going to remove a guy, he's got to do with
the knowledge of you know what inning are we in,
and this guy, once I take him out, I can't
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use him again. He's done. Well. Now, once extra innings
hit this year, it looks like unless things change again
at the last minute, but there will be free substitutions.
So if I've removed my shortstop in a double switch
or whatever for whatever reason in the seventh inning, now
we're in the twelfth inning, I can put that shortstop
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back in the game. And um, you know that'll be
interesting both from the standpoint has never been done before.
And also you know, as we know, baseball's a game
of routine and habits. So the players, their entire lives
have been used to the not free substitution. Real. So
if I'm a short stop I'm removed in the seventh inning,
I know I'm done for the day all of a sudden.
Now this year, I'm gonna have to stay loose, stay
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in uniform, because if we go twelve innings, I might
be called on to go back in m Well, let's
see if they get this thing done at five o'clock
when they vote. If not, we'll see what the commissioner
does in the meantime. Scott, just like you, Just like you,
all those baseball fans, we wait on bated breath, and
I can't wait till you get to actually cover the
games being played. Even if there's only sixty of them,
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It's better than nothing. Thanks so much for joining us
on Fox Sports Tradio. My pleasure, Thank you. Pleasures all mine.
MLB calumnist and a good one for Bleach Report Scott Miller.
Follow him on Twitter at Scott Miller b b L.
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search f s R to listen live. So Dak Prescott
apparently has signed his franchise tender. Now what this means
is if they don't, if they don't get a deal
done by July, a long term contract extension, then he'll
play under the franchise tender and he'll make thirty one
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thirty two million dollars just from the Cowboys alone, guaranteed
for this year. Injury, No, injury doesn't matter. If if
I'm the Cowboys and I don't get a deal done,
I sit there and go, hey, finally, finally, Jerry Jones
stuck to his guns. Now, there is the possibility that
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this puts a lot of pressure on the Cowboys because
some in the Cowboys believe that there's a chance that
they could deal for Jamal Adams, and the ability to
deal for Jamal Adams, who would require a contract extension,
would mean that you first have to negotiate Dack's long
term contract before you negotiate a trade for Jamal Adams.
That said, I think this is the challenge to the
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Dallas Cowboys. Can Jerry Jones? Will Jerry Jones stick to
his guns and say, look, we don't want to go
to the forties. We are we want to stay in
the low thirties. We want to go to a fifth year,
not just four years. Why does that matter? Because Dak
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wants to be back out in the market again and
cash in again, and he has every right to want that,
and the Cowboys have every right to go like, yeah,
you know what, we actually prefer that extra tact on year.
Why because we said so. If we're willing to pay
you somewhere in the neighborhood of one hundred and twenty
million dollars for four years, then you know what, if
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we want right a first refusal for one additional year,
We're gonna take it. We're gonna take it. And what
I don't want to hear, what no one really wants
to hear, is any idea that they disrespected Dak Prescott
by not giving into his desires to be the highest
paid quarterback to surpass Carson Wentz to have a four
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year deal so we could be back out in the market,
because the truth is that Dak does not actually have
the leverage. He doesn't. There is absolutely only reason that
the Dallas Cowboys would give in and want a long
term contract extension is that they wanted to free up
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some money to pay some other players because his money
will count dollar for dollar when he's on a franchise
tag against the cap. But unless they're going after Jamal Adams,
and even if they go after Jamal Atoms, the truth
is he only makes three million dollars and change this year.
There's a way to creative math, so they don't have
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to do that. But whatever, Like the Dallas Cowboys already
signed everybody else. Mark Cooper signed, Jalen Smith is signed,
the offensive line is all signed, Zeke Elliott signed, like
Jarwin their tight end signed long term extension. While this
normally would put pressure on a team to free up money,
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the Cowboys money is pretty much all accounted for. Could
they use some help on defense, absolutely, but they don't
have to. They don't have to do anything. They can
stick their heels in the ground and say we're not budging.
This is our bottom line. If not, look playing the
franchise tag, and if we can't come to a deal
next year, you're playing the franchise tag again, and you've
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made sixty five million dollars guaranteed over two years. No
one would bat an eye over that. So the challenge
for the Dallas Cowboys is to not repeat history and
give into contract demands. They've never done that, but until
July fifteenth, they have the ability to do that. But
whatever you do, please don't say it's disrespectful. You offer
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a guy somewhere in the one d thirty to one
hundred and fifty million dollars with over a hundred million
dollars guaranteed for four to five years, paying him in
the top ten salaries in the sport when you didn't
beat a winning team last year, that is the opposite
of disrespect. That's saying, hey, those things that went wrong,
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none of them are your fault. That's what's saying. So
I like Dak Prescott. I don't think he's one of
the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. I do think
there's a value to having a guy who you've had
matriculate through your system. Not so much so that I'm
willing to break the bank, and I like that. This
is why the franchise tag exists. It works for the
players because they get ungodly absorbed absorbed amount of money
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and they could be back doing this exact same dance
next year. For some reason, we've decided that the franchise
tag is a bad thing. Why because you listen to
the players and their agents. That's what you do. It
is not a bad thing. It is not a great thing. Hey.
What it does is it protects the teams so that
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they're not constantly dealing with young players who get downe
with their players that get done with their contracts, that
want to become free agents. They don't want what the
NBA has become. That's not good for their business. And
the reward to players for staying put, even if they
can't find middle ground for their contract is to be
paid guaranteed for one year at the average of the
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top five salaries at their position, and then you can
do it again next year, and you can do it
again the yefter that in the third year it's actually
uh like x plus one, there's actually even more money.
You have to have a transitional tag. You can tell
me this doesn't work out well for the players. I
give you Kirk Cousins, who had to franchise tag he
played under and then signed a huge deal eighties six
million dollars guaranteed some totally made about a hundred and
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twenty million dollars over five years. At the time that
was among the top salaries in the entire sport, and
as as as good as Kirk Cousins has become despite
being a fourth round draft pick, he is not one
of the top five quarterbacks in the sport. He's not
one of the top five players in sport. He used
the system, played it out, and were was rewarded, and
then got a contract extension this year, So you're not
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gonna find me as somebody to go, Oh, I feel
so bad for you. Got a guaranteed contract for a
year at thirty disrespected. He wasn't disrespected. The album a
five year contract. He wants four, all right, that's called
a negotiation. We want you so much, we want you
contract under contract longer, not shorter. That's disrespectful. That's not disrespectful,
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that's negotiating.
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I do think there are moments in which you have
to adjust. Um, I'm gonna tell you something I really
like about how this time slot and how I've always
done a radio show. Right. There are many radio there.
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There are I know, a very successful radio show not
on this network in which the host and has he
has people help him, rights the show, and it's very
well written, it's entertaining, it's been good for a long time.
I'm not I'm not necessarily taking a shot at it.
I'm just only pointing out the biggest flaw to that
style is what do you do when something happens? Can
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you adjust? Can you react? And by my estimation, the
um and every time slot is different. This one we're
on three to six in the afternoon on the East
coast twelve three in the in the middle of the
day on the West coast, Doug Gotli show, Fox Sports Radio,
we get the stories of last night. If there are games,
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we get the stories of the morning, and we get
to also forecast more for the evening, and very occasionally,
like today, for example, we get a story in the
middle of the day where we're gonna change. Okay, I'll
tell you about Dak Prescott up coming in fifteen minutes.
But there's something symbolic taking place at Talladega. Talladega Motor Speedway,
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of course, is in Alabama. We I wasn't joking. I
thought maybe it be cool to go there, considering it's
a Fox race, and you know, although only five thousand
spectators can get in and forty four I think r
vs can get in. The fact is that because of Fox,
you know, I might be able to pull some strings.
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I've been tested and tested negative. Maybe you get in.
Yesterday's race, of course, was canceled because rain, so they're
gonna race today Yesterday though before the race, there was
a Confederate flag that was flown on the back of
some private little prop airplane. And to add insult to injury.
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Bubba Wallace, who's a black driver, reportedly found a noose
when he got back to his garage. UM, a noose
is pretty much the most offensive I'm trying. I can't
think of anything more offensive to a black man to
find than a newse. I I don't have to explain
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the association to you. You have a brain, you're able
if you're smart enough to tune into a national sports
radio show, and I get that that on some level
you want to get away and just talk about sports.
But on some level, this is where sports and whether
it's politics or racism, do intercede. The reason I wanted
to change because this was all well known, UM is
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because right now they're doing the Star Spangled banner and
oh yeah, by the way, while uh, everyone of the
drivers are standing in attention with their hands over their heart,
they also walked out following Bubba Wallace and his car.
It's a very symbolic thing taking place. I know. I
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know how the news makes you feel. I know how
videos make you feel. You feel when you watch something
on video, you think everybody's doing it right. And I
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actually understand NASCAR and they're play a great deal. I
do think that many of their fans and most of
their drivers. I would like to believe, like the rest
of America are not in fact racists, but because there have,
because it's been essentially a white sport, a white male sport.
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It's a seen as the sport of the South because
we've seen Confederate Like you, the idea that you had
to put a rule that there's no Confederate flags tells
you kind of all you need to know, right, and
then on top of it, like a noose, it's like
what what? Look? Let me speak for the rest of America.
I cannot understand what it's like to be black in
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America because I'm not black, but as a white person,
and whoever the white people are, the people are, they're
doing these things. You can feel free to walk off
a cliff because you're you're making We have a great country,
we have awesome sports, we have good people. And when
I look at this, I note I I note that
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point nine percent of human beings are good human beings
that want nothing more than their kids to live safe, healthy, happy,
and grow up and grow strong and have a better
life than they have. But the point oh one percent,
which again do the math right or so million people
in our country. That's actually a lot more people than
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uh point one percent or point five percent actually feel like.
But those people, you suck and we'd like you to
go away. And I do think that I don't know
how every guy feels, but the idea that an entire
sport is gonna sit here and go like this said,
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we've had enough of this um powerful symbol powerful symbolism
in their supportive bubble walls. It just the the whole
I don't know, this is the whole thing strikes me
as I mean, completely and totally stupid. I don't even
understand the Confederate flag thing. It's like, there's no argument
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you can make. They lost, it's all it's been over
for a long time. In addition to the symbolic nature
of what it says to people of color, just the
idea that you'd fly a flag when you lost. You know,
I don't that that one. You're gonna have a tough
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time getting past those two elements of it to me,
But you know, this is this is NASCAR. The first
step in fixing a problem is admitting you have a problem.
And while I was surprised that the Confederate flags had
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to there had to actually be a rule that went
down that somebody didn't think enough to go like, hey,
maybe I shouldn't fly this thing. Maybe this is probably
not you know, by the way, the king's out there,
Richard Petty. There's lots of kings in different sports like
Barry Switzer king and college football. Right, Michael Jackson is
the king of pop and I do know he races
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for I think Richard Richard Petty racing right. Uh, Elvis,
is you know the king an interesting interesting day? I
mean wait, there was what in his locker? How is
that even possible? The The only proof of someone's level
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of stupidity is there's there's a limited number of people
that have access to a garage, especially right now, and
I'm guessing there are cameras everywhere, but I want to
be very careful is to not let's not call like
all NASCAR fans racist or whoever, like that's one idiot.
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gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon
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a app. Charles Robinson's our Guest's NFL reporter for Yahoo
Sports check out the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. Um, why
do you think Dak we're only here at at you know,
end of June, although I'm like the days are starting
to drag, Why do you think he would relent and
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sign a franchise tag? Now? I have a seri I
but I don't know that it's this is not based
on anything. There you go in terms of how I
would look at this tactically. Um, if the Cowboys are
you know, if you're the Cowboys and you're thinking about
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trading for Jamal Adams and there has to be salary
considerations there, it becomes a lot more difficult when Dak
locks that money onto your cap, as opposed to Dak
not having locked that money onto your cap, which would
give you breathing room until when July to do a
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deal to get an extension done or whatever. But if
Dak Prescott were to lock that money in now, it's
significantly curbs the amount of money that Dallas has to
play with if it was to say, decide to make
a run acquiring Jamal Adams in a trade and potentially
doing a deal with Jamal Adams. Now, if you're gonna
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do that, you probably have to get an extension done
with with Dak Prescott first to try and alleviate some
of that upfront money. So that and again that's completely
just a theory on my my part that it puts
more more pressure on the Cowboys to have to come
to the table. It's interesting here, here's what I've heard
regards of Jamal Adams. It's that the Jets don't have
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to trade him, don't necessarily want to trade him, and
he can't go anywhere else. But one of the one
of their reluctance to pay through the roof is not
just the fact that you gotta put a team around him,
but no one knows what the salary caps gonna look
like next year and beyond. We don't. We don't know
if they'll be fans in the stands, we don't, we don't.
There's so much unknown that it would be unw It
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would be an unwise financial risk too, when you don't
need to to re up a guy to uh, the
biggest contract of safety had ever seen when you don't
know what the salary caps gonna do. Yeah, I mean, look,
that's true, but I would say, honestly, that's probably a
third or fourth consideration for the Jets like at this
point because look for the Jets, they've looked at like,
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if you're the Jets, you sit down, you look historically
players who defensive players who have gotten a deal an extension,
a first round pick who have who have gotten extensions
after three years. Well, there are guys of magnitude who
had to play through four years before they got their
big deals. Aaron Donald, Okay, Khalil Mack like, people who
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literally won Defensive Player of the Year awards before getting
their contract extension and they had to play through a
fourth year. Um. So that's one consideration, the fact that
you you had game changing edge rushers who not only
were first team All Pros, but we're defensive players of
the Year who got paid and had to play through
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four years. So he's putting himself ahead of that group.
Number one by saying, hey, I wanted after three years.
He's a safety. Number two. Now, I know safeties are
used in a multitude of ways a different league now,
especially safety like him. He's not your quote unquote traditional
box safety. He's a He's a versatile safety who can
play in the box. I get all that, um, but again,
I don't know that he is the player of magnitude
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to all of a sudden just get get it after
three years. Um, So that's that's part of the consideration.
Another part of the consideration, it was hanky at the
trade deadline last year when all of a sudden, um,
you know, the Cowboys are checking in to see if
Jamal atoms someone who that you know, who could potentially
be gotten in the trade and on all this flood
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of information comes out, um from reporters who surround the
Cowboys orbit about Jamal Adams, you know, potentially being on
the trade deadline trade block for the for the Jets,
which upset the Jet um because he wasn't necessarily on
the trade block. The Cowboys called and the Jets picked
up the phone, and then it seemed like the Cowboys
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lead that information to maybe poison the well. Um, yeah,
you know that. Will McClay okay, who's in personnel with
the Cowboys, has a close relationship with George Adams, Jamal
Adams Dad. Okay. There's just a lot of stuff going
on in the background with the Jamal Adams deal. And
I think Jamal Adams, what the number he's trying to
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get to from the Jets is not just resetting the
safety market. It's resetting the safety market considerably. Then you
get to the realities of where the salary cap could
be going next year. So it's there's a lot there's
many layers here, but a lot of messed up stuff
kind of tied into no, no question about it. And
it's it's going to be fascinating no matter how valuable
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with safety is, and they're very, very valuable, especially in
in this NFL. If you can cover uh, it's it's
is it really are you? And and the idea of
re saying the market sounds good until you realize that
you don't actually have the leverage that you want unless
you're willing to sit out a here. And that literally
has happened once and that was Levan who lost money
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in the end because of it. So it's it's gonna
be fascinating. Charles Robinson joining us UH, senior NFL reporter
for Yahoo Sports. What is the actual likelihood that Colin
Kaepernick ends up in a camp? Um? Man, I you know,
somebody asked me this a couple of months ago or
about a month ago when all this you know, kind
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of started, and um, yeah, I guess it a month
ago and uh, and I said zero. You know, I
still thought it was zero. But you know, look, I
do think that there is some stuff's going on. You know,
I think that there's league pressures being exerted. Why say
league pressures being exerted out mean that leagues leaning on teams.
I think the league is looking for teams that might
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be interested in in Kaepernick and trying to figure out
a way to get dialogue started in a way that
that doesn't go bad for a team. So, for example,
say you're a team that is potentially interested in looking
at him, but you're afraid of like, hey, we look
at him and we don't like what we see, or
we want to back away. We don't want to get
shelved for it, we don't want to get destroyed for it.
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So we're afraid, you know, to to to step out.
Is there some way maybe the league could facilitate this um?
You know, so, I look, I still think it's extremely low,
I think, but I do think that, you know, the
league is an active participant in trying to see if
maybe you know, there's a team out there that that
is willing to bring him in and give a good
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look at him in in camp, now even that is
you know, teams have to go through the process of
considering like, hey, we want to get a good look
at him, but then can we make a football decision.
On the other end of it, Could we cut Colin
Kaepernick at the end of camp because we don't think
he played well enough? Then what happens to us. We
get celebrated at the beginning, Hey we signed Colin Kaepernick.
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Everybody's happy, and then we got to cut him because
we don't We actually think that three year layoff was
too much and he's not where he needs to be.
So you know, there's it's it's a complicated question, I
think from both ends, but I will say this, I
do believe I don't think this is fake on Kaepernick
sent I believe he wants to play. I believe he
wants to play. I believe he wants to be in
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the NFL. And I believe he thinks that he is
still um a guy who can eventually ascend to a
starting job, that he can be a starting quarterback in
the NFL. It's going to be fascinating because I've heard
exactly it's like, what would we be popular for signing? Yes,
but could we cut him, and and you know, like
how it? How it? In addition, could he actually be
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a backup? Right? Everybody wants to be a starter, but
you have to have a completely different mentality to be
a backup because no one, no one, no one wants
the backup quarterback to be more popular than the starter.
This is in college football. That's not the way it works.
There's only one leader and there are no starting jobs available.
Just ask Cam Newton. Which is why I think the
team matters and I think the starter matters. I so
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people have asked me, like, you know, ballpark it, what
do you think is a situation that would really work
well for in Baltimore? Straight up? But but how how?
How could the owner? How why would the owner do
that after after the meme that his girlfriend put out there?
Like okay, yeah, you're right, Okay, I get it. You
want to you know, we talk about what NSSA did.
I I totally understand that, but that was three years ago.
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A lot of changed in three years. No, no, I
I get it. But there has never been any sort
of apology, nor do I believe there will be any
sort of apology for for the meme. And and like
they have they have our G three. I can, I can.
I share with you the team. I think it works
most for Okay because I do. Look, I realized his
former offensive coordinators there. It totally makes sense. He's not
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replacing Lamar Jackson, no matter how if Lamar Jackson struggles
this year, I get it. There's there's two. But the
best possible scenario is Kansas City. Okay, same idea. You
gotta lead m v P. You got a super Bowl champion.
He is not replacing Pat Mahomes. It doesn't matter how
you know, it does not. But and you, Reid is
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rehab Mike Vick's image. You know, whatever you think of
Colin Kaepernick's image because of kneeling, he does need some
image rehab in terms of leadership and quarterback play or whatever.
There'll be no no force to play him. And oh yeah,
by the way, if he could learn and thrive in
that system. In practice, Andy Reid protegees are spread throughout
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the NFL, in places like Chicago and Philadelphia and and
other places as well. The only other one would be
the Houston, Texans. Uh. Bill O'Brien could use some good
public city. He too, already has a guy who no
one would argue is ever going to be replaced by
Colin Kaepernick? Straight up? Houston is is the two, the
number one. The best possible scenario for the league and
(18:11):
for Kaepernick to me would be Kansas City. I I
don't I don't disagree with Kansas City like I think
Kansas City is a is a logical landing spot like
and I think it. I would say though that in
terms of the schemes that are run and and again
this is Andy Reid. He can tailor to whoever he wants,
and he can he can make it work. Again, it
(18:32):
comes down to the mind of the head coach or
who's running that offense. So I get it. Absolutely, Kansas
City can work. Absolutely. The reason why I say Baltimore though, is, uh,
you know the depth of knowledge that I have, not
only in what Greg Roman offensive coordinator obviously that was
the peak of Kaepernick's career in San Francisco, but you
have a head coach who very much I think I
(18:54):
don't know if you know. Look, have I talked to
to John Harbor about this? You know? Recently? No, But
I can tell you that over the last three years,
the one one of the head coaches who felt strongest
about Kaepernick needing to be in the league and deserving
it and being like befuddled at why he wasn't was
John Harbaugh, his father, Jack Harbaugh, his brother Jim Harbaugh,
(19:15):
Like it's you have essentially an entire family's sitting there
going this guy, this guy should be in the league.
Why is he not in the league? I I get it.
I just I can't believe an owner would be made
to look that way. And I mean that would be
a that that would that would be an about face
that I just don't know. And oh yeah, by the way,
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they had to get rid of r G three. Who
knows that system has been in that system? Oh yeah,
I don't. Hey, hey, I'm not I'm not. I I
get it what you're saying. I totally understand that. But
I also didn't think I would hear Roger Cadell ever
say we the National Football League were wrong for not
listening to play you know, I mean things. I can
only say that things have happened in the last two
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weeks that I was like, that will never happen, and
then things happened, and so it's just hard for me
to completely deforce. Look, Bill O'Brien and again you're talking about,
you know, may rest in peace. Bob McNair passing away,
cal McNair takes over the Houston Texans and Bill O'Brien
steps up and says, you know what, I'm gonna make
a statement today, and he gets on a zoom call
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and he makes like a ten minute statement about how
he feels about what's going on with police brutality and
all these different things. And I sat there, and I
live in Houston. My jaw was on the floor, like
I was like, whoa this is? This is? This is
not It's like I never thought like I would see
this happen. But the environment changed around Bill O'Brien and
he felt, I've got the ability to do this. I
(20:40):
want to do this. This is where I'm aligned. I
feel like it's something I want to say, and he
did it. So I I guess I've just seen enough
things happened that I thought were impossible that I could
see see Steve Bashatti. And again I'm not saying something
couldn't happen behind the scenes or whatever, or there wouldn't
be a man culpa, but um, you know, is it
possible for me to believe Steve Maschatti would go, hey,
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no one forever. The fact that they have r G
three there. I mean, you're right, there are other factors
there that obviously make it less likely. And I'm just
saying in terms of fit, yeah, I think Baltimore is
not a bad place. Yeah, no, no, I I agree
with you. Unfit, that's what. But that's to me, that's
the the untold part of the story, right, is we
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we go back. We every you know, he got non
non football people or not people who follow it like
you and I do. And obviously you've done it for
a lot longer and a lot more in depth than
I have. But if you don't follow it, you're like,
oh he kneeled, he was out a league Like No,
it's more complex than that. You almost always go where
you know the system, where you have a relationship. The
only place in the league that he had that was Baltimore,
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and he he told napalmed it right. He went to Seattle,
he visited there. I have no doubt that Russell Wilson
was like, no, thanks, dude, that's not I'm not having
that as my backup. I've had enough trouble, you know,
in terms of leadership here plus he said he wanted
to be a starter and that's not the way to
get a backup job, right, so nobody knew how much.
But all that aside, I agree with you, Baltimore is
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the fit. Uh and especially with Lamar, he's not gonna
be the starter unless God forbid Lamar gets hurt playing
you know, sand football in front of a jet ski
or something like like you did a week ago. Um,
but but I just I don't know, man, Steve Bashotti
doing a one eighty, that would be that would be
a bigger one eighty than we saw from Goodell, which
which was which was a big one. I agree, Oh listen,
(22:28):
I agree. And that look, that's that's a tent pole
moment in the Kaepernick story. What what happened with NESSA? Okay,
Like I don't there's no disagreement there whatsoever. And um,
you know, I just it's hard for me just to
discount anything anymore. You know, I I'm kind of out
of the discounting business because I, like I said, a
(22:49):
month ago, I was asked straight up by some people
like is is he getting back? And I said, no,
no way, Like there's no way he's gonna get back
in the league and I laid it out and probably
two weeks later I was like, oh, that might have
been a bad call. This might be changing. Yeah, I
would agree with when when he threw last year, he
looked it looked like he was playing catch. It didn't
look like he had a great feet obviously, you know,
(23:10):
deciding when the NFL, you know, tried to let him happen,
went all of the pushback over a simple workout. I
was like, no way, that that's it. That's the that's
that's the that's the the end of it. But now
you you never know. Charles, I hope you're well, can't wait?
Do we have actual football in the meantime. Thanks so
much for joining us. We'll make sure to check out
Charles Yahoo Sports NFL podcast from Fallum on Twitter at
(23:32):
Charles Robinson. Charles, Thanks again. Absolutely be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Scott Miller joins us
MLB columnist or Bleacher Report at Scott Miller b B,
Big B, Little B L is the Twitter handle. All right, Scott,
one final vote before the commissioner says enough and we're
(23:55):
gonna play baseball based upon the people you've spoken with,
do you believe that the players will agree to the
sixty game season. Yeah, I think it's fifty. Um, I
think it should be a really close vote. I don't
think it's I think there's a chance, and but yet
I don't think it's a slam dunk. Um. That said,
I do believe either way we are going to see
(24:17):
baseball back on the field in some way, shape or form,
whether it's a fifty four game schedule sixty game schedule
late July, August, September. And I also think, going back
to what you just said a little while ago about
people freaking out, um, you know, I mean, we've had
an interesting seventy two hours in baseball, and that on Friday,
(24:39):
word came that five Phillies players minor leaguers but unidentified,
and three staffers in clear Water at their spring training
site tested positive for the coronavirus, and close by in Dunedin, Florida,
some Blue Jays in their camp tested positive. So to
your point, a lot of people I think immediately like,
(25:00):
oh my god, baseball so much for that, we k
that baseball is gonna have to cancel and that's not
the case. I think what you said is important. Regarding
the COVID nineteen. Baseball has canceled all its spring training sites.
I mean they've shut them all down for now to
disinfect and to sanitize. But going forward, this is gonna
be all about if they can get in agreement, and
(25:23):
whether it's agreement or Manford ordering the game back on
the field. As I said, I think we will see
the game back on the field, and then it's all
going to be about managing the COVID nineteen. Because you're
exactly right, we're not going to go through the baseball season,
but football season anything with Okay, we have so many
health protocols in place that nobody's going to test positive.
(25:45):
There will be positive tests. The question is if all
of a sudden of the league test positive, well then yeah,
they're gonna have to shut it down. But if it's
a lesson, you know, if it's a it's all about
managing the numbers and quarantine eating those who test positive.
And I think baseball and it seems like other sports
are prepared that that's how we're going to have to
(26:08):
do it, and that's what we're gonna do. Okay, so
what will baseball. Let let's say they agree to this
deal because they have to. What does this deal look? What?
What does what does baseball look like for this year? Well,
then it will look unlike anything we've ever seen before
in Major League Baseball. Logistically, it'll be the shortest season
(26:30):
including strike seasons, you know, whatever, the number ends up
being sixty games season. Let's just say that there's gonna
be universal d H. We're going to see the Designated
hitter and National League for the first time ever. UH. Scheduling.
Teams will stay in their geographic regions and so like.
For example, UM, Nationally West teams will play Nationally West
(26:53):
for the most part, and they'll have a handful of
inter league games, but those will be against American League
West teams. So, in other words, the Western divisions will
all play the Western Divisions, Central Divisions play the Central,
Eastern play the Eastern. UM and within all that, UH,
it sure looks like we're going to have some wacky
rules like that have been floated this summer and such
(27:16):
as you hit the tent ending any extra endings, you
start with the runner at second base. UM, and I
think basically baseball is looking at, say take that rule
in particular, and they're they're gonna say, let's try that
and others and we'll see what, you know, since it's
such a crazy schedule, short season anyway, and we'll just
(27:37):
do different things that we've never been allowed to do
in this sport, and we'll see what works, what doesn't,
what people like, what people don't, and then they'll sort
it out from there. Doug Gotlix show here on Fox
Sports Radio. How does this affect the contract the CBA
negotiations in the future, You know, I think that's why
(27:58):
Rob Manford and the owners. Manford's doing everything he can
to cut a deal with the players instead of unilaterally
ordered the game back on the field. I think part
of there are two reasons for that. One. That's why
Manford's always worked. He's he's always thought it's better to
negotiate a deal. When Bud Selig was still commissioner, Manford
was his point man for the last couple of collective
(28:21):
bargaining agreements that see and the players got done, and
Manford as a result, because of that, baseball is on
an unprecedented run of twenty five years of labor piece
right now, and Manfred his fingerprints are all over that.
So now fast forward to where he's commissioner, and he
from experience understands it's better to negotiate than than it
(28:43):
is to use my commissioner powers in order the field
the players on the field. So so the next c
b A, this current one expires after one season, so
they're gonna have to start negotiating again within the next
few months. And I think Manford certainly understands if we
can get something done short term right now for this season.
(29:06):
As rough as relations are right now between players and owners,
and they're not good there, I'd say they're they're worse
than any time since players don't trust the owners. Owners
are getting frustrated the players for various reasons. Um. That said, Um,
it's not that if they get an agreement to get
back on the field this season, all of a sudden,
(29:27):
everybody's going to be singing Kumbaya. But Manford understands that's
still a better way to go entering the negotiations they're
going to have to start very soon. Then if they
can't reach an agreement, he orders the game back on
the field, then the relations are going to get even worse,
and they're going to start from an even worse place
(29:48):
when they pick up talks for the CBA that expires
after Scott Miller, major League Baseball columnist for Bleacher Report,
He's done it for a long time. There's a great job,
he joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Boards Radio. Let's assume it gets done. Let's assume we
have a season, we have these new rules. What what
do you think is going to be the most interesting part?
Because I don't know how many regular sports fans know
(30:10):
that baseball had changed to where you know, you had
to face three batters unless, of course you come in
the middle of the inning. You know, there's some of
the rule changes. Um, you know, the d H the
playing against like this. There's a lot of good Scott
that could come from this. Um. I know that baseball
loves the a L and the n L. But the
(30:31):
idea of you know, if you want to put people
in the seats playing, you know, change what the league's
are like. What to you is the most interesting part
of the actual game play and how it will work
within within baseball. Yeah, and and and to your point, Doug,
the in terms of the National American leagues being separate
really once they instituted inter league play, which started in
(30:57):
so that's like a long time ago, right, that's twenty
one years, twenty two years ago. Once that started, really
the line of demarcation between the American National League disappeared.
So there's still the separate leagues, but really in name only.
And the only difference because they there's interleague play every
year now. Uh, the only difference is that the National
(31:18):
League hasn't had the d H. So you know, almost
by definition, that's gonna be both interesting and radical change
this year. And some team. The interesting thing within that
as well is remember when we last were all at
spring training in February and March, the National League was
not going to have a d H. The d H
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all of a sudden, this is a very last minute thing.
So some teams are going to be better equipped in
the National League to have a d H than others.
And you know, for example, the Los Angeles Dodgers, remember
when they made the Mookie Betts trade right before spring training.
During those negotiations, they had traded Jack Peterson the Los
(32:01):
Angeles Angels, and then all of a sudden, as when
the first itineration of the Bets deal got canceled, that
did as well. Then they eventually did get the best
steal done. But Jack Peterson, who knew he was gonna
be with the Angels, all of a sudden that deal
got canceled. Jock's back with the Dodgers. That ends up
being fortuitous because this guy that hit thirty home runs
(32:21):
last year and had a pretty good offensive season, And
now that there's a d H in the National League.
You know, with as far as the Dodgers are concerned
that the rich get richer, that they already have great depth,
but but now that they didn't trade Jack Peterson, that
he's gonna come in really handy as a d HL.
The DH is gonna be fascinating. Um, you know the
(32:42):
extra rating rules. I I hope they don't stick long term,
but you know, I get it for this year. Also,
they're talking three substitution and extra intings, which is something
we've never seen. Guys could come back in back in
even if they what is for for people who haven't
been following, what will what will extraly things look like
this year with these rules? Right? So a runner will
(33:05):
be on second base to start the tenth ending for
each at bat, uh and the design of that is
so that we don't get eighteen nineteen analysts inning games. Um,
so that's that. And and free substitution is what they're
looking at two, which again never been done. And for
that is you know, for the casual baseball fan, Uh,
(33:28):
you don't. Traditionally, once a baseball players subbed out, he
can't go back into the game. And and that's part
of what makes the National League managerial decisions and well
all managerial decisions so fascinating because a manager, if he's
going to remove a guy, he's got to do with
the knowledge of you know what inning are we in,
and this guy, once I take him out, I can't
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use him again. He's done. Well. Now, once extra innings
hit this year, it looks like unless things change again
at the last minute, but there will be free substitutions.
So if I've removed my shortstop in a double switch
or whatever for whatever reason in the seventh inning, now
we're in the twelfth inning, I can put that shortstop
(34:09):
back in the game. And um, you know that'll be
interesting both from the standpoint has never been done before.
And also you know, as we know, baseball's a game
of routine and habits. So the players, their entire lives
have been used to the not free substitution. Real. So
if I'm a short stop I'm removed in the seventh inning,
I know I'm done for the day all of a sudden.
Now this year, I'm gonna have to stay loose, stay
(34:31):
in uniform, because if we go twelve innings, I might
be called on to go back in m Well, let's
see if they get this thing done at five o'clock
when they vote. If not, we'll see what the commissioner
does in the meantime. Scott, just like you, Just like you,
all those baseball fans, we wait on bated breath, and
I can't wait till you get to actually cover the
games being played. Even if there's only sixty of them,
(34:53):
It's better than nothing. Thanks so much for joining us
on Fox Sports Tradio. My pleasure, Thank you. Pleasures all mine.
MLB calumnist and a good one for Bleach Report Scott Miller.
Follow him on Twitter at Scott Miller b b L.
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(35:14):
search f s R to listen live. So Dak Prescott
apparently has signed his franchise tender. Now what this means
is if they don't, if they don't get a deal
done by July, a long term contract extension, then he'll
play under the franchise tender and he'll make thirty one
(35:34):
thirty two million dollars just from the Cowboys alone, guaranteed
for this year. Injury, No, injury doesn't matter. If if
I'm the Cowboys and I don't get a deal done,
I sit there and go, hey, finally, finally, Jerry Jones
stuck to his guns. Now, there is the possibility that
(35:57):
this puts a lot of pressure on the Cowboys because
some in the Cowboys believe that there's a chance that
they could deal for Jamal Adams, and the ability to
deal for Jamal Adams, who would require a contract extension,
would mean that you first have to negotiate Dack's long
term contract before you negotiate a trade for Jamal Adams.
That said, I think this is the challenge to the
(36:18):
Dallas Cowboys. Can Jerry Jones? Will Jerry Jones stick to
his guns and say, look, we don't want to go
to the forties. We are we want to stay in
the low thirties. We want to go to a fifth year,
not just four years. Why does that matter? Because Dak
(36:39):
wants to be back out in the market again and
cash in again, and he has every right to want that,
and the Cowboys have every right to go like, yeah,
you know what, we actually prefer that extra tact on year.
Why because we said so. If we're willing to pay
you somewhere in the neighborhood of one hundred and twenty
million dollars for four years, then you know what, if
(37:02):
we want right a first refusal for one additional year,
We're gonna take it. We're gonna take it. And what
I don't want to hear, what no one really wants
to hear, is any idea that they disrespected Dak Prescott
by not giving into his desires to be the highest
paid quarterback to surpass Carson Wentz to have a four
(37:23):
year deal so we could be back out in the market,
because the truth is that Dak does not actually have
the leverage. He doesn't. There is absolutely only reason that
the Dallas Cowboys would give in and want a long
term contract extension is that they wanted to free up
(37:45):
some money to pay some other players because his money
will count dollar for dollar when he's on a franchise
tag against the cap. But unless they're going after Jamal Adams,
and even if they go after Jamal Atoms, the truth
is he only makes three million dollars and change this year.
There's a way to creative math, so they don't have
(38:05):
to do that. But whatever, Like the Dallas Cowboys already
signed everybody else. Mark Cooper signed, Jalen Smith is signed,
the offensive line is all signed, Zeke Elliott signed, like
Jarwin their tight end signed long term extension. While this
normally would put pressure on a team to free up money,
(38:27):
the Cowboys money is pretty much all accounted for. Could
they use some help on defense, absolutely, but they don't
have to. They don't have to do anything. They can
stick their heels in the ground and say we're not budging.
This is our bottom line. If not, look playing the
franchise tag, and if we can't come to a deal
next year, you're playing the franchise tag again, and you've
(38:49):
made sixty five million dollars guaranteed over two years. No
one would bat an eye over that. So the challenge
for the Dallas Cowboys is to not repeat history and
give into contract demands. They've never done that, but until
July fifteenth, they have the ability to do that. But
whatever you do, please don't say it's disrespectful. You offer
(39:10):
a guy somewhere in the one d thirty to one
hundred and fifty million dollars with over a hundred million
dollars guaranteed for four to five years, paying him in
the top ten salaries in the sport when you didn't
beat a winning team last year, that is the opposite
of disrespect. That's saying, hey, those things that went wrong,
(39:33):
none of them are your fault. That's what's saying. So
I like Dak Prescott. I don't think he's one of
the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. I do think
there's a value to having a guy who you've had
matriculate through your system. Not so much so that I'm
willing to break the bank, and I like that. This
is why the franchise tag exists. It works for the
players because they get ungodly absorbed absorbed amount of money
(39:55):
and they could be back doing this exact same dance
next year. For some reason, we've decided that the franchise
tag is a bad thing. Why because you listen to
the players and their agents. That's what you do. It
is not a bad thing. It is not a great thing. Hey.
What it does is it protects the teams so that
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they're not constantly dealing with young players who get downe
with their players that get done with their contracts, that
want to become free agents. They don't want what the
NBA has become. That's not good for their business. And
the reward to players for staying put, even if they
can't find middle ground for their contract is to be
paid guaranteed for one year at the average of the
(40:41):
top five salaries at their position, and then you can
do it again next year, and you can do it
again the yefter that in the third year it's actually
uh like x plus one, there's actually even more money.
You have to have a transitional tag. You can tell
me this doesn't work out well for the players. I
give you Kirk Cousins, who had to franchise tag he
played under and then signed a huge deal eighties six
million dollars guaranteed some totally made about a hundred and
(41:04):
twenty million dollars over five years. At the time that
was among the top salaries in the entire sport, and
as as as good as Kirk Cousins has become despite
being a fourth round draft pick, he is not one
of the top five quarterbacks in the sport. He's not
one of the top five players in sport. He used
the system, played it out, and were was rewarded, and
then got a contract extension this year, So you're not
(41:27):
gonna find me as somebody to go, Oh, I feel
so bad for you. Got a guaranteed contract for a
year at thirty disrespected. He wasn't disrespected. The album a
five year contract. He wants four, all right, that's called
a negotiation. We want you so much, we want you
contract under contract longer, not shorter. That's disrespectful. That's not disrespectful,
(41:48):
that's negotiating.
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