July 24, 2020 • 49 mins
Doug Gottlieb celebrates the return of sports and explains why baseball games worked seamlessly without fans present. He talks about the likelihood of a cancelled college football season and tells you who it would hurt the most. Doug sounds off on Jamal Adams taking a page out of the NBA’s playbook and speaks with ‘3 and Out’ podcast host John Middlekauff about all of the hottest topics heading into the weekend!
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Boom Up America, Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Man,
I hope you're well getting ready for a weekend in
which we have sports. Yes, their sports back watched last
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night in l A. You could watch the Lawyers and
the Lakers same time. What was that like, Oh my goodness,
this is amazing. No, it's not. It's actually life getting
back to whatever the new noise normal is. And you
know that's what it was. It's the new normal, the
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new normal. And um, I just think that, huh. I
just think it's really interesting to me how I was
watching the Dodger game last night and I was and
I say, the Dodgers they played the Giants. T K Hernandez.
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Is it that much to ask ke K to spell
his name differently than the way in which he spells it,
just just saying right, like in this, I know it,
there's no attempt to offend. But in this, let's let's
not even give the nickname to the Washington football team
because we can't figure it out without offending somebody. Is
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it that hard to go like, hey, k K, you
could just spell it k E E K A Y
same thing, right, just phonetically. Anyway, watching baseball last night
and I was like, feels like baseball. It looks like baseball.
It is baseball. And I don't think we missed them all, right,
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but I think it's good to be back. I don't
think we missed the fans. So we're now a month
in the almost a month into quarantine with the NBA,
and they've had no positive test, and they have preseason
games and they seem to be functioning in their new normal.
We have Major League Baseball games being played, and they're
functioning in their new normal. And we'll learn within the
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next week how college football intends to come back. The
NFL is trying to work out the financial details of
them coming back, and as we scale down the cost
because the revenue is going to be far less without fans.
We do realize that sports at least can distract for
this period of time, it can happen. It's it's interesting.
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It's like, um, we talk about essential businesses all the time,
right and for for for a good portion time in
southern California, only essential businesses were open. Well, what's an
essential business? What's truly essential? Sports may not be a prime,
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primarily essential business, but it's pretty damn essential. It's essential
in terms of the number of people it actually takes
to make it happen, and the balance it brings to
life and oh yeah, by the way, think of all
the other things that it does. It also helps, you know,
pay our bills, not just sports radio, but with TV
jobs as well. You have all the sponsorships that it
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brings to the table. You also bring in sports gambling,
which may be bad for a lot of people who
out of work, but it does generate a ton of
money and now tax revenue in states where betting has
become legal. Sports is a lot more essential than you
think it is, and fans are a lot less essential
than we think we are. Like you think of yourselves
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as part of the game, and turns out You're really not.
Just like the factory guy that can be replaced by
by a computer, YouTube can be replaced by a noise
machine and a placard. Is it the same? No, it
lacks the human touch, the human feeling. But is it
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Does it make it completely Uh? That does it change
the sports so much that it's completely unwatchable? Now? It doesn't.
It was a good watch. I watched last night, and
I'll watch again tonight, and we've gotten back to the
place where sports is on at least, you know, major
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League Baseball is on as at least background noise in
your home. John Ramos, who is our biggest Dodger fan,
assumed you watched last night. I did, expecting the Dodgers,
the boys in Blue, to go sixt left left. They're on.
They're well on their way if they play the Giants
every game they were Remember when the Giants were they
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were the NLS, like they were the iconic franchise in
the NLS. I don't know, now you got, you know,
like for the podect there's all kinds of jokes on Twitter.
You know, Dr Fauci flattening the curve with his with
his first pitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a did
I mean brilliant scientists, But there's some bad parenting there, right.
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If you can't throw a pitch, if you can't use
a grill, if you can't change a tire, you can't
change the oil. Um you don't know how to catch
a fish? What else are things you need to you
know how to throw a baseball, throw and catch a football,
shoot a basketball without looking like These are all things.
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I don't blame Dr Fauci, I blame his father. These
are these are parenting miss uh, parenting flaws. That's what
it is. So I don't know, I've I felt as
normal as you could be with What's what? What happened
last night? Is it? Is it the exact same thing?
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No sun stun, the pomp, the circumstance, the seventh inning
stretch where you you pan the crowd and you've got
some little kid or a foul ball and somebody chases
after a home run ball. But let's be honest, the
game itself was still cool, still good to watch, still interesting,
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and still a little bit slow and boring because it's baseball.
And oh yeah, by the way, there's new rules in
terms of how long you have to leave some of
these backup pictures in these these relievers in so we
we told you for a long time it could be done.
It has been done, it will be done, and we're
officially back the Dodgers on their way to being undefeated
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and the Giants on their way to another long, uphill
climb of the season. Um okay, So now that leads
us to what about football? If you've been listening, we
got some breaking news in regards to the NFL. What
it's gonna look like. Will they get the financial deals
uh done before they you know, before camp starts on time?
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What will the season look like? All of those things.
But there's a story out about the importance of college
football to one network, how Rome could officially fall if
college football doesn't happen. I'll explain that up coming next.
But first, hey, Doug out leave. And with all that's
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I sent the story to a couple of friends. I
thought it was fascinating. And look, if you think it's fascinating, great,
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If you don't, all right, well that's that's too too bad.
It sucks to be you. Right, Um, Okay, So industries
are are tied together. And I would say that the NFL,
which by the time Roger Goodell leaves his post, it
will be on every network and on ESPN, maybe on
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T and T, maybe on Turner as well. That that's
the genius to Goodell is he's been able to spread
out instead of instead of giving exclusivity to Fox, or
to CBS or two, NBC or to ESPN, because his
product continues to draw such great ratings, he's been able
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to get more and more money for more and more networks.
And the thought is that ESPN, in an effort to
keep the Monday night football package, we'll move more. We'll
move back to ABC so they'll still have ESPN games.
We got Thursday night, Fox and NFL network games. Right,
So you got Fox, NFL Network, ESPN, ABC, CBS, Big Fox, NBC.
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That's like seven networks all carrying the NFL that nobody
has that nobody has that, So the NFL almost has
to play because if not, that is a gigantic not
just financial hole to dig out of for the league,
but for all those networks because they're they're they're advertising
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is sold based upon having NFL games. And it's not
just the actual games. It's the shoulder programming. Right, CBS,
you come up the big a f C game into
sixty minutes. Sixty minutes would not draw nearly as well
if there was no NFL game leading into it. Even
though there's a Sunday night game. Many people just they
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get drawn in by one promo, one story coming up
the sound and you're like, Okay, I'll stay and then
maybe change over to the to the Sunday night game
at some point. Except on the West Coast, we get
it all by the way. So I saw this story
and I just found it to be fastest. So college
football we're getting closer and closer to decision making time
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right now. Many of the conferences have announced, the big
conferences announced they're going conference only play. I read this
story in Sportaco. Sportacos a website that really tracks UM.
We use it mostly for contracts. You can I don't
know how they do it. They get the details to
like every contract in American professional sports sportacal rights, no
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company has more money tied to the fate of the
upcoming college football season in the Walt Disney Company, the
dominant corporate force in college football. Disney's ESPN co owns
two conference networks, has broadcast deals with nearly all the
college football's top division and televises every major bowl. It
also owns literally a chunk of the smaller postseason games,
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and controls commercial rights to sponsors and naming rights to
the biggest. Last year's ESPN family of networks devised televised
two two games and sold seven point five million dollars
in ads, according to Standard Media Index. To put that
in perspective, ESPNS NFL package only generated thirty one point
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thirteen point eight million dollars. The numbers don't include the
college games televised by ESPNS a CC network, SEC Network,
nor the plethora of other matchups streamed on ESPN plus
the digital service, which called five dollars a month, and
it's popular among college football fans. I think it's crazy.
It's not just the five two million dollars that they're
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in it for ABC, which is also owned obviously by Disney,
is two fifty eight million dollars. So I think here's
this is interesting. Dave dan Cohen says ESPN business in
college sports, primarily college football, is actually an ecosystem, and
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their business is organic, as opposed to inorganic buying rights
to Major League Baseball then selling ads and securing affiliate
deals off the content is inorganic. It's a transactional piece
of business. When you own the Bowl games, when you
own the networks, that become the business unit of itself.
Here's the downside to it. They're so all in if
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it doesn't happen. Remember Disney's parks haven't been opened for
months either. Disney also has a cruise line. Anybody going
to Cruise Diamond and a cruise anytime soon. We're talking
the Walt Disney Company. Now. The good part is that
Disney Plus. Because everybody's been stuck at home and you
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want to get your Star Wars fix in or you're, uh,
you're what's the what's the not Superheroes? What's the Marvel?
You want to get your Marvel Comics movies? Right, you
gotta go Disney Plus and then you can watch him,
and that's what a lot of us have been doing.
You signed up for Disney Plus when you didn't think
you would because it didn't have the content previously. But
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now your kids are stuck at home, and they may
be stuck at home for another year, and you better
have that Disney. But that's the good side. The bad
side is Disney parks. No one's been in for months,
and now they can be open. They can only have
like capacity, and we'll see how long that lasts. Disney
Cruises essentially shot. ESPN hasn't had games, and if they
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don't have college football games now He's is the ecosystem
of college football because as much as they take in,
they also pay out to those conferences, and those conferences
use that money for all of their sports. Like this
thing all works together. If you don't have college football,
and not only does college football and the college system
possibly collapse, but so too does the Walt Disney Company.
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Think about that. Think think about that for a second,
the Walt Disney Company. If you don't have college football,
if you try into this college football in the spring,
you're talking about imminent collapse. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. Jamal Adams wants to be traded.
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This is not breaking news. Jamal Adams is a tremendous player.
Also not breaking news. But Jamal Adams is is uh, well,
he's doing that thing that guys do which at the
time they think is helping them and is really hurting them,
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right and really really hurting them. Um, look, he's a
hell of a player. But going public and destroying your
head coach while being under contract for at least the
next two years and up to the next five years,
where you're not even a free agent, it's it's the
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ultimate stalemate, ultimate stalemate. You're in a pandemic. You got
a GM that didn't draft you, a coach that didn't
draft you, and you're calling out the coaches leadership and
coaching style. Meanwhile asking to be traded because you want
to change the market in terms of the contract that
you would get. If the desires to trade change teams,
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well that you listen. You're allowed to do that if
you think, hey, the best way to get paid, or
I don't like playing for this guy, I get it.
It happens. We've all had a boss like it's not
my not my type of dude, or you've worked for
a company where you think you know they're just perpetually
cheap and I'm never gonna get what I feel like
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I rightfully deserve. However, when you start calling out the coaching,
even if what you're saying is true, that this is
what people are missing. Jets fans don't like Adam Gates.
He said that Adam Gates never says anything in front
of the full team. Just not a leader, not the
right leader for for the franchise. Al Right, So a
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portion of me says, like, if you're the Jets, you
go to Jamadam said, okay, well what if we change coaches?
Would you stay? Then? No, because that's not what this
is about. This is simply about money and in your
desire to get paid. The more the more saber rattling
there is, the more of a peeing contest this becomes,
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the more you start to realize, hold on a second, dude,
the only way we're gonna trade you is if we
get a high level first round pick and something else
likely in return, not just account Why would we give
away one of the top safeties in football when we
got you under contract for one more year at almost nothing,
two more years in a reasonable sum, and up to
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four years at top of the market. Why would we
do that. We're not just gonna give you away. But
the more you say, the more it hurts your trade value.
But it doesn't hurt the trade value in the in
the eyes of the Jets, because they probably sat down
and said, look, we're not doing unless we get a
first to the third for this guy. And to this point,
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no one's ever never come to that place. So I
I think it's it's fascinating. You know. Sure, plenty of
teams are asking about the asking price, what does it cost?
But the asking price is not gonna go down even
if his value is down because they think he won't
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play for the Jets. He's going to play for the Jet.
This is the big misconception that people have. Jamal Adams
is not a free agent. He is not. He's not
going to be a free agent anytime soon. If the
Jets want to sit there and stick it to Jamal Adams,
they absolutely can't. And here's the other lie that you're
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gonna be told, You're gonna be told, well, you know,
he's only set to make eighty five thousand dollars in
base salary. The rookie contract that he signed was a
four year guaranteed deal. Within those four Within those four
year guaranteed deal, he got fourteen points seven nine million
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dollars up front. That's what he got in the very
first year. Now the second year, hey, the second year
he didn't make nearly as much cash, but he got
a three point five eight two million dollar signing bonus,
and then he made about five fifty five dollars all
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in one point uh four seven last year, two point
four this year, three point five Next year is the
fifth year option at his position goes up to nine
point eight million dollars. Then he would be a uh
technically an unrestricted free agent, but they could franchise tag
him for up to two more years and then transition
tag him after that. Jamal Adams isn't going anywhere. He's
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dealing from no leverage, and instead of trying to establish leverage,
he's killing it by killing the cavery coaching staff who
he'd have to play for or would have to trade him.
Because what does the rest of the league, as they say, well,
you know, how much value does he really have? He
doesn't want to play for the Jets anymore, But the
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Jets are still sitting there going like, who cares. He's
one of the top safeties in football. The asking price
for him heading into his second contract should be a
first and something else. The Jets are. The Jets are
gonna rightfully believe his value is still the same, whereas
the rest of the league is going to take his
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value down a notch and maybe even two. And I'm
not saying it's because he calls out, calls out uh
his head coach. It's because the appearance means it makes
it really sticky for him to play for set head coach.
That's what it does. But I always find these things
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interesting where you'll get people who just lie about NFL players.
They'll say their contracts aren't guaranteed. Yes, say, our first
roundraft picks contracts guaranteed, and most of it is paid upfront,
most of it, like his his contract was twenty four years,
twenty two million dollars. He made fourteen point seven when
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he first signed the contract. He made over a half
his money the second he signed that contract. And then
that doesn't take into account next year's fifth year option,
which is ten million dollars, so it's front and backloaded.
He's in the middle, so it makes him look like
he makes pennies on the dollar when the truth is
that's just based upon how the contracts actually built. That's
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what that is. Eight seven seven ninety nine Foxes the
phone number. Great second hour of the show We have
for you, Absolutely phenomenal. John middle Cauf will joined us
upcoming get his thoughts on Jamal Adams. But if I'm
the Jets, I sit there and I put my price down.
This is what I think he's worth. You know, if
if you like real estate, you guys like you, guys
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like the site zillo Zilla has the make Me Move.
You know, you can list your house. You just go, hey,
make me move. Oh you like my house, cool, pay
me two hundred above what everyone else in the neighborhood
is getting for their house per square foot, and I'll
give it to you. That's to make me move price.
That's the Jets should be. We got a guy under contract.
If you want them, you're gonna have to overpay based
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upon this offer. If you can't do it, you move on.
That guy in order to get paid has to keep
showing up be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio,
a app Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. John middecaff
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will join us in the second. You know, here's the thing, Uh,
I've done a lot of these shows here. I remember
doing the show when um, when Drew Brees uh said
I will never agree with somebody who disrespects the flag.
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And I remember walking out there's like a sound stage
basically we're Colin does the show, and I was hosting
the show thinking to myself, God, these shows are no
fun because there's nothing you can really say because look,
who's the who's the cat from the Is it the
Orioles who didn't kneel before the flag? Kneel for the flag?
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Last night? There's the giants giants and and I think
it's a great point that that's being made, which is
by by some people, which is like, hey, to the
people who kneel, and it's your right to kneel. If
you want people to believe it's your right to kneel,
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you know what else you have the right to do?
You have the right to stand at attention before the
flag as well. That's how this country works, that's how
the exercise works. Figure it out. Okay. No one is saying,
or at least I'm not saying that you're not allowed
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to protest peacefully, especially when the national anthem is being played.
I wouldn't do it. I do think it's disrespectful for
the before the flag. It's intentionally distres respectful. Also, please
stop being dishonest. It's not about the flag. It's not
about yes it is it is. It's about what the
flag represents to you, and if to you it represents
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oppression or police brutality, like okay, and you believe that
kneeling before it is your personal protest, you're allowed to.
You're also allowed to burn the flag, that is, that
is protected right. But you're also allowed to respect the
flag and to stand at at at attention before That's
what you're supposed to do. And I think different situation
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calls for different things, you know, like if it was
the Olympics this summer, I don't believe you kneel before
the flag. If you're at the Olympics, you're representing the country,
you stand at attention on the national anthem's play. It's
different than when you're in the country. That's a different discussion.
We'll get to that next summer. If if next summer's
sports actually happened, we don't know. But I was I
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was doing the radio show and Drew Brees and look,
I disagree with the tone own because Drew was doing that.
I don't even want to hear it. This is what
it means to me. I didn't think it was the
worst thing in the world. I think he was saying
what the flag meant to him, which is honest, but
you would have thought people said, you were saying things
about somebody's mother, right, how people call him out And
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I remember walking out saying like, look, if we can
take away the tone of what he's saying, and that
one those couple of words when he said, I will
never agree with because that just that sounds kind of
closed off. When when had he simply said, look, this
is what the flag represents to me. Here's why I stand.
I don't think anybody could have had had found and
found in fault with it. They had a couple of
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grandpas who fought and died and okay, like that sort
of represents to you, to some people representing something different. Um,
but but we we become the least fun country ever.
And America is a lot of things. America is fun.
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We're fun. We're fun. If it's got water, we found
a way to put something in it that you know. Now,
everybody's doing that water surfing. You gets see this. Everybody's
doing the water surfing where you catch the wake behind
the boat and you don't you no longer have the handle,
Like that's fun. I don't know if that was invented
in America, but we're gonna take that one and count
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call it as our own. Jet skis feel American big
power boats, American surfing, American Hawaiian but American. Whatever that
we'll we'll take it America. There's a lot of fun
things to this country that individually you can get other places.
You can't get everything we do in another country. But
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the Washington formerly known as Redskins football team not picking
a nickname only only shows what I've long said, which
is that's actually a hard to find a dictat. You
don't want to be offensive. On the other hand, you
don't want to be carked tun ish, and you just
don't have time on your side. And oh yeah, by
the way, I think the thing that they're gonna find
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is the biggest mistake is losing the Redskin moniker on
the side of the helmet. That was anyone who who
wants to point out anything about the name being disrespectful.
The Native American leader on the side of the Washington
Redskins helmet look like look like a proud warrior. That's
what it looks like. So now they're not gonna have
a name for a football team. This is this is
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the the if the police are running buck we I
think we can all agree that so too are the
the PC police. Because you can find fault with almost
every name, and instead of rushing it, the Redskins will
just go with the Washington football team. Maybe they add
a nickname, maybe they don't. Let's just see what the
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polling says as the season gets underway. Let's get you
tis to go and try and find out what else
is going on. I quity got Doug. We're still awaiting
the results of voting by NFL player reps who proved
the owner's proposal of changes to the c b A.
If the proposal does pass, it paves the way for
training camps to begin full bore. The NFL Players Association
Executive Committee voted unanimously to recommend the approval of the
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owner's proposal. Big news in college football. Michigan State's entire
football team will quarantine for the next fourteen days after
one player and two staff members tested positive for the coronavirus. Now,
get this, about four hours before this news broke publicly,
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Michigan States starting right tackle Jordan's read tweeted quote, guys
are testing positive across the country, left and right. Why
is there still discussion on a season? Why is it
taking so long to make a logical decision? Let me
guess revenue unquote with revenue in all caps. Yes, you idiot, God,
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I just don't look. Look, Jordan reed, college football fans writers, Okay, yes,
college football makes money. That money is used to pay
for everything that you have, you idiot. Revenue is not
a bad thing. It is a fact of life with
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we're not operating charities. Okay, it's not what this is.
College football is not a charity because if it was,
you wouldn't have all that gear, you wouldn't have all
the stadiums, would have those coaches who wouldn't have all
the the cryo chambers. Let me get revenue. Yeah, they
want to play or they lose massive, massive amounts of money.
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That this is what happens when you have a little
bit of your intelligent and you have a little bit
of knowledge, you know part of the story. Like look, dude, yeah,
Like obviously you have no real world experience. I don't
know if people understand how Parisley close we are to
the college system, not just sports, the college system collapsing,
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and that would be catastrophic to the economy, catastrophic. Like
you have zero clue what you're talking about. You should
do yourself a favor and not speak. Okay, let the
adults in the room that understand how things work. Okay,
Michigan State is a school of people, Okay for people.
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So in addition to the athletic department likely losing in
the hundred million dollar range if they don't have football,
and they'll still lose a bunch of money if they
have football and don't have fans, but it won't be
as much money. So that would set all of Michigan
State athletics back for years. If you don't have students
on campus, it's not just their fees. It's not just
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the room, the room and board which the school would
lose out on. All of the fundraising functions would would
go away. That builds up, uh, that builds up the coffers,
the town. All the hotel rooms. What what what? What
are the hotels not just you know bed and breakfast,
but all the big hotel chains, all the big restaurants
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and the local pubs. What do they do for revenue?
Like you just didn't, just stop talking. Revenue is not
a bad thing. I'm not sitting here as the ultimate
capitalists saying throw kids out there. Look, if you test positive,
your quarantine for two weeks and then you go back
and you play football, this is not hard m And
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if you go home, you still would have the same
or greater likelihood of getting sick, only you don't have
the medical care you have at home. So shut the
hell up with the revenue. Dude. You don't know what
you're talking about, you know, but you don't actually know
a little bit of knowledge. It's actually a scary thing times.
Lets get the John Middle coffee joints. Us. God, these
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people driving crazy? How are you like you're excited? I
just I don't like this is what happens with college
football fan, college football writer, now college football player. They're like, man,
they make a lot of money. Yes, they make money. Yes,
all of these things cost money. You have to make
money to pay for things. That's how the world works.
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You can't just keep cutting checks to people with no
revenue coming in. I don't. I don't know why. It's
such a it's it's like a boogeyman. You know. You
bring up a good point about some of these cities,
and on the West Coast, I think timetimes we forget
because you know, like usc U, c l A, they're
in major cities. But I worked at Fresno State and
Fresno State football is a major revenue driver for the town. Also,
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the Save Marks Center, where Fresnen State plays basketball in
brings everyone from Taylor Swift to the Rolling Stones come through,
which equal a lot of money. And then obviously a
lot of the big programs outside of the West Coast
are not in major cities. When I worked for the Eagles,
I went to a Penn State practice in the middle
of nowhere. All my friends that do the SEC it's
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all these cities are not major cities, right, and I
just think that people don't quite grasp especially the media
can be very anti capitalism and business and listen, the
n C double has their own issues, but I don't
think people quite comprehend. And if you haven't understood it
during the coronavirus of when you shut down or when
you don't do things go away and they do not
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come back, you know, it's it becomes very complicated, and
I think a lot of people just either don't want
to get it or or incapable of quite understanding the
ramifications of some of this stuff. Uh, we're watching Major
League Baseball being played, watching uh NBA basketball being played.
I mean, logic is that the NFL can work this
thing out as well. What do you your guys in
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the league that you talked to, they think we're having
a season. Yeah, a buddy yesterday, he's like, I'm officially
an NBA or NFL quarantine. Basically he just gets tested
every day, you know, just as a scow and coaches
and right now the players you know, are doing that
thing where they get tested and then they at least
the quarterbacks the veterans don't officially report for a couple
more days where they get tested and they stay away
(35:11):
for a couple of days. You know. In pro sports,
I don't think people quite grasp this. Like in college
sports they had like coach k or Nick Saban. They
impact and their words for the way you're gonna run
the business have a lot of influence. Andy Reid and
Bill Belichick have no impact on the setup of these protocols.
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It's a league office thing. It's an owner thing. The
coaches and gms. I mean, they may have their opinions,
but no one care. It's all about money, and I
think they're just kind of have to figure it out
as they go. The the NBA has the bubble. I
think baseball is a better example, right because these guys,
like last night for the Dodger game, the Dodgers all
go home and then they come back. So there's gonna
have to be a lot of self responsibility. And I
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was thinking about it today, Like the older players in
the league, like a J. J. Watt or Richard Sherman,
especially guy with families, It's like, yeah, it won't be
an issue. But think about a lot of people in
the NFL. A lot of guys are single players under
twenty five years old. You know, to have those guys focus,
especially in some of these cities that are are are open. Uh,
could be a little challenging. Uh, you know, just the
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just the number of people you have on an NFL
team is double a baseball team, and baseball's double a
basketball team. So it's just you're just dealing with a
lot of a lot of younger people that have, you know,
discretionary income, so they can kind of do whatever they want.
There's an expression I've heard in in media which I
think works for Jamal Adams something which is you can
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be right and you can be out of a job. Right. Um,
I don't think he'd be out of a job. But
he may be right that Adam Gaze isn't the right guy.
He may be right that he's underpaid. He might be
right that they don't, you know, love him or appreciate
him because Joe Douglas didn't draft him or eating these things.
But that doesn't mean that they're going to move him
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because well, he's hurting his own value with many of
his statements. And oh yeah, by the way, he's under
contract for the next couple of years because he's not
a free agent, right he's in his fourth year. Then
he's got his fifth year option, then potentially could be
franchise tag for two or three years. Like, there's no
reason that they have to move Jamal Adams, even if
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everything he's saying is in fact correct. Well, and the
and the flip side is if you are the Jets
and you're like on the fence, like you would move him.
If you think about probably the three most famous kind
of younger players hold out slash trade demands recently was
Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, and Khalil mac Now, Aaron Donald
was never available, but if he they had said, like, yeah,
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we'll think about trading this guy, every team in the
league would have been lined up. Gruden makes him available.
Every team in the league has lined up offering multiple ones.
Jalen Ramsey maybe a little less because he had just
you know, it's not like a bad character guy, but
he's got of a pain, but he's so elite and
he's a corner. Multiple teams were willing to trade a
boatload of picks. Jamal Adams is a box safety player,
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you know, very good against the run, good blitzer, but
you get paid those two guys, the two defensive lineman's
rushed the passer. Jalen covers the wide receivers. This guy
plays the run. You know, if I need a sweet safety,
I need a guy, especially in the prime of his career.
Can he cover George Kittle and Travis Kelsey. That's because
that's like what they just drafted Isaiah Simmons to do
in Arizona. Like that's the thought process behind it. That's
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not really Jamal's deal. So every team, if I am
Joe Douglas and I inherited this problem because I didn't
draft this guy or hire the coach, I go, well,
we did draft this guy six overall and he's one
of our better players. I'm not just gonna give him
away to like Belichick for a third or Howie Roseman
or something, because no one's gonna be offering a first
round pick. So I'm just unless he's a complete headache,
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which I'll give Jamal credit, he's he's doing everything possible
to to kind of will his way out of there.
But I you just you're not gonna give him away.
And that's it's a tough spot. You know, welcome to
the NFL, Joe Douglas as your first GM major problem, Like,
is he gonna show up because jama All gonna hold
out because if he shows up the camp, he just
lost a bunch of leverage right there. Uh, this is
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not the NBA where you Kyrie Irving goes trade me
to one of these three teams, Ranthony Davis, you get
traded those teams. Like what. Joe Douglas doesn't care. So
I think the situation is a little complicated on Jamal
Adams side. Now, I will give him his media strategist credit.
If you do want to force a trade, just come
out and blast the coach, even though he's already done
it before. But like legit put it in print and
you've got a chance to get traded. What do you
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what do you do um with with the coach? If
you're Joe Douglas, Well, I mean I know they're friends, right,
they had worked together in Chicago. I have friends in
the league that worked with Adam Gaze, and you know,
everyone will say he's a little weird, but I think
most coaches are kind of like them. I think things
have gotten a little weird in his career. Whether it's
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the money, whether it's just not handling the power, I
don't know, it's it's not gone well, you know in
uh in New York, but they think goes seven and
nine last year with some disasters. What who's to say
the division is much more wide open with Brady gone.
Everyone's kind of annoyting the Bills. And I think the
Bills are gonna be good. But what if we'll be
winning nine games? I mean, we'll see. I wouldn't just
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Adam Gate was kind of like Kyle Shanahan and Sean
McVeigh before those guys that his personality is completely different,
and that's clearly kind of feels what's holding him back,
not like no one ever goes you know what Adam
Gaze doesn't know offense, but it feels like, you know,
he understands scheme. It's this he can't get along, you know.
He kind of feels like a lot of the Belichickie
and guys over the years. He just he can't have
(40:30):
a conversation as a human. And I would say in
two thousands, if it was like, well if he can coach,
who cares? In two thousands twenty, in the times we
live in, it feels like it's a little harder to
be like that. It puts Donald into a really weird situation. Right,
because his whole thing is I'm going to be the one.
I'm gonna ride Donald, right because because Manning is the
guy who, um what, whether it's real or imagined, like
(40:53):
That's loves him that he yeah, Gaze, Manning loves Gaze.
And if Manning loves you, he squares by him, then
there you go. Um it puts Donald in this, uh
in having an unenviable position like he didn't he didn't
pick Gaze. He's a second coach. I'm not sure he's
an actual fit for that system anyway. But but but
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if Sam's good for Adam, and Adam makes them like
you know, a Pro Bowl level player that's gonna put
a lot of money in Sam's pocket, make him a
star in New York, and then he'll like them. Right.
It's it's really that simple. Unless their relationship is already
kind of weird. Who knows. I mean, i'd say Adam
Gaze and just that whole Jets organization was what's going
on with you? It's just it's kind of in tatters
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right now. It's it's it's closer to the Washington football
team than I think most people. Uh you know, when
we just say names of teams like they're dumpster fire
right now, and Sam's really the only thing that can
save them. I feel like the Washington football team is
the perfect example of how paralyzing so much of this
stuff is, right, that's that's I actually think it's perfect
(41:59):
to not having to day because no matter what you do,
somebody's gonna be ticked. No matter what you do, somebody's
gonna be ticked. You just pick a random nickname like yeah, no,
I mean you know you're gonna do away with anything
Native American. Okay, if you want to say that Redskins
was uh, you know, it was a slur, like I
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would argue with you that wasn't the attent and no
one actually uses it as a slur. But okay, if
if enough Native Americans think that, that's fine. I don't
think anyone was offended by the actual mascot logo, right,
that was like a proud Native American warrior. But if
you completely wipe clean any Native American, um, uh, you know,
(42:40):
remembrance on it now of a sudden, like well, that
that's weird. Um. You know there's the uh, the Ron
Rivera wanted some sort of military thing to it. Okay,
but if you, but do we love all aspects of
the past? Military red tails maybe makes sense. I don't know,
Like I almost feel like they're so realized by obviously
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the times period you don't have enough time, but also
the we don't want to offend everybody, but people are
offended by everything and anything. I think not having nicknames perfect.
I don't know why. I was shocked by the reaction,
but when they announced that they were just gonna go
by the Washington football team this year, and everyone freaked,
like did you just expect that people? And maybe they
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did that they were going to have a new nickname
before the season. This was an owner who was Adam
and he was never going to change. So when he
was forced into it, it's not like because my first
reaction was, well, you know, you just gotta take your
time before, like you would get married, right, but at
least if you get married, you can always get a
divorce if it doesn't go wrong. He could not pick
a nickname and have it this year, and then realized, wow,
we gotta change next year. Who whatever they pick is
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their next name. It's got a stick. And like you said, whatever,
let's say hypothetically they would have called the Red Tails
or the Red Hawks or half the people would not
have liked it, and then you know, it would have
been like, oh did we pick the right one? It
would have in a disaster. I think it looks pretty solid.
I would if you look at like a lot of
these soccer clubs in Europe, just called the Washington Football Club.
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I mean, just call it something like that. It's fine.
I think it looks solid. Washington's a solid name, the
color is good. Who cares? That's fine. Maybe maybe just
go with a big W, you know, instead of instead
of the R, and just move on like that. I
think there's a chance they just keep it as is. Um,
the the l A Rams, they're an interesting story. Right
two years ago McVeigh was so hot that anybody had
(44:30):
coffee with him had a chance to get a head
coaching job. Um. He's made some changes, reworked the staff,
got rid of Todd Gurley and now there you know,
and look, if the playoffs were expanded last year, he
would have made it. What are your expectations for the
Rams this year? Well, I think something no one's talking about,
and uh, I don't know all the details of the
(44:51):
Wade Phillips situation. I think sometimes way he gets to
a point where he wants to be paid, like he's
like Steph Curry or something. He wants stupid money and
as he goes big but he's good and uh they
got rid Away Phillips didn't renew his contract. However you
want to quantify it or you know, verbalize it, they
went with a guy who's never been a coordinator, who
has only been a league like three years. So to me, defensively,
(45:15):
and you look at their roster, they lose Littleton, who
was one of the better cover linebackers in the league.
They got two sweet guys and Donald and Jalen Ramsey
the rest of the guys, Like are they that good? Uh?
Their offense gonna be fine, you know in that scheme
Sean McVeigh. The offense wasn't really the problem last year
beside when they couldn't pass protect. But defensively, remember those
first couple of years, like they were really really stout
(45:36):
because they were so deep and I just I don't know,
I the the divisions really hard. Uh It's not like
Seattle or San Francisco are intimidated by them, even the
even the Cardinals. So I think it's gonna be difficult. Now.
I still think McVeigh is good. They have enough good
players on offense. But if you tell me that like
Ramsey or Aaron Donald were to have him injury, they
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would be in major trouble. Because I think the biggest
question mark for any team that's like a legit, you know,
playoff contender, and that the Rams, like you said, they
would be in the playoffs if they had last year,
had the seven teams. I don't know, man, I think
the margin freyre on a first time defensive coordinator who
doesn't just inherit some loaded defense is gonna be is
gonna be a lot more difficult than I just think
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people assume what can we legitimately expect from the Buccaneers.
You know, I think there are a major question marks
just with the the head coach and the quarterback. I mean,
they philosophically have operated consistently very different over the last decade,
especially as Tom has gotten older. He has done all
his work in the short and intermediate game, and that's
what they built the team around. Throwing the running backs,
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throwing the Edelman, throwing the Gronk, like the days of
Randy Moss throwing bombs away just has not been happening.
And when you close your eyes and you think of
Bruce arians I think of Carson Palmer and now Jameis
Winston throwing bombs because that's what Bruce likes to do.
And you go back to when he had been Ben
Office Burger, like he likes throwing the ball deep and
Tom can't move that offensive line. I know they drafted
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a guy early, but that that's that's the type of
thing that would an offseason and a normal training camp
would be beyond invaluable because you would work things out.
And I think Bruce is an excellent coach, so most
any good coach can adapt, but it takes time to
adapt because you you know things work and you go, well,
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we got Mike Evans, we got Chris Godwin, like we're
ready to roll now. And Tom's like, wow, I love
this play against this defense and it's the wheel route
to the running back. And Bruce is like, well, I
like hitting Mike Evans on that skinny post. You know.
Just that's what they're it just and they're two high
level guys, and I think they would come to an agreement.
How do they have time? Like I understand I'm sure
they've been texting Colin, probably even spent some time together
(47:47):
when they shouldn't have. That. That's different than having the
whole unit out there at practice. O t A s
are stupid for the most part, unless you have a
brand new quarterback and you're implementing a new offense or
melding an offense together. I think definitely early on in
the season. Tom has run the Tom Brady offense for
the last decade. Right, it wasn't Josh's, it wasn't be
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It became Tom's offense, and Josh melded it to his own.
But Bruce arians has not run the Tom Brady offense now.
The Tom Brady's an all time great, the greatest player ever,
one of the greatest athletes of all time. You'd say
he should be able to adapt. He's forty three, you know.
It's not like you're getting him at thirty four where
he's gonna be open like Tom does what Tom does
because he has physically he can't move anymore. He never could,
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but he really can't now, and there's some pressure. It's like, well, okay,
you're away from Bill, what's it? And Tom knows that,
so I it's gonna be challenging. I think it's gonna
be a lot harder than despite the roster on paper,
especially the skill guys look sweet. It's just we've seen
it before in football. Unlike baseball. It's not like a
plug and play league. Yeah, last thing playing golf this weekend.
(48:56):
H Now, I'll probably just hanging out, just enjoy some
enjoy some baseball, drink some beers. Actually might I might
get out getting nine. And tomorrow maybe I'm playing a
Tustin ranch where I have in tusting where I went
to high school. I grew up in Orange. I've actually
never played the course playing over this afternoon, but I
I was nearly arrested in high school. That was a
(49:17):
spot we go to one of the greens and and
have some old English had I had a couple of
those spots with some mad dog. Every everyone in high
school has a good spot to drink on a golf
course with some alcohol. Today you couldn't pay me to
drink now. Yes, that's that's actually very very accurate. Alright,
owee on tap for the weekend, have a good one,
Thanks so much. John, anybody all right? That's a John
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I hope you're well getting ready for a weekend in
which we have sports. Yes, their sports back watched last
(00:44):
night in l A. You could watch the Lawyers and
the Lakers same time. What was that like, Oh my goodness,
this is amazing. No, it's not. It's actually life getting
back to whatever the new noise normal is. And you
know that's what it was. It's the new normal, the
(01:06):
new normal. And um, I just think that, huh. I
just think it's really interesting to me how I was
watching the Dodger game last night and I was and
I say, the Dodgers they played the Giants. T K Hernandez.
(01:27):
Is it that much to ask ke K to spell
his name differently than the way in which he spells it,
just just saying right, like in this, I know it,
there's no attempt to offend. But in this, let's let's
not even give the nickname to the Washington football team
because we can't figure it out without offending somebody. Is
(01:48):
it that hard to go like, hey, k K, you
could just spell it k E E K A Y
same thing, right, just phonetically. Anyway, watching baseball last night
and I was like, feels like baseball. It looks like baseball.
It is baseball. And I don't think we missed them all, right,
(02:11):
but I think it's good to be back. I don't
think we missed the fans. So we're now a month
in the almost a month into quarantine with the NBA,
and they've had no positive test, and they have preseason
games and they seem to be functioning in their new normal.
We have Major League Baseball games being played, and they're
functioning in their new normal. And we'll learn within the
(02:34):
next week how college football intends to come back. The
NFL is trying to work out the financial details of
them coming back, and as we scale down the cost
because the revenue is going to be far less without fans.
We do realize that sports at least can distract for
this period of time, it can happen. It's it's interesting.
(03:01):
It's like, um, we talk about essential businesses all the time,
right and for for for a good portion time in
southern California, only essential businesses were open. Well, what's an
essential business? What's truly essential? Sports may not be a prime,
(03:22):
primarily essential business, but it's pretty damn essential. It's essential
in terms of the number of people it actually takes
to make it happen, and the balance it brings to
life and oh yeah, by the way, think of all
the other things that it does. It also helps, you know,
pay our bills, not just sports radio, but with TV
jobs as well. You have all the sponsorships that it
(03:45):
brings to the table. You also bring in sports gambling,
which may be bad for a lot of people who
out of work, but it does generate a ton of
money and now tax revenue in states where betting has
become legal. Sports is a lot more essential than you
think it is, and fans are a lot less essential
than we think we are. Like you think of yourselves
(04:11):
as part of the game, and turns out You're really not.
Just like the factory guy that can be replaced by
by a computer, YouTube can be replaced by a noise
machine and a placard. Is it the same? No, it
lacks the human touch, the human feeling. But is it
(04:33):
Does it make it completely Uh? That does it change
the sports so much that it's completely unwatchable? Now? It doesn't.
It was a good watch. I watched last night, and
I'll watch again tonight, and we've gotten back to the
place where sports is on at least, you know, major
(04:55):
League Baseball is on as at least background noise in
your home. John Ramos, who is our biggest Dodger fan,
assumed you watched last night. I did, expecting the Dodgers,
the boys in Blue, to go sixt left left. They're on.
They're well on their way if they play the Giants
every game they were Remember when the Giants were they
(05:17):
were the NLS, like they were the iconic franchise in
the NLS. I don't know, now you got, you know,
like for the podect there's all kinds of jokes on Twitter.
You know, Dr Fauci flattening the curve with his with
his first pitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a did
I mean brilliant scientists, But there's some bad parenting there, right.
(05:43):
If you can't throw a pitch, if you can't use
a grill, if you can't change a tire, you can't
change the oil. Um you don't know how to catch
a fish? What else are things you need to you
know how to throw a baseball, throw and catch a football,
shoot a basketball without looking like These are all things.
(06:06):
I don't blame Dr Fauci, I blame his father. These
are these are parenting miss uh, parenting flaws. That's what
it is. So I don't know, I've I felt as
normal as you could be with What's what? What happened
last night? Is it? Is it the exact same thing?
(06:28):
No sun stun, the pomp, the circumstance, the seventh inning
stretch where you you pan the crowd and you've got
some little kid or a foul ball and somebody chases
after a home run ball. But let's be honest, the
game itself was still cool, still good to watch, still interesting,
(06:49):
and still a little bit slow and boring because it's baseball.
And oh yeah, by the way, there's new rules in
terms of how long you have to leave some of
these backup pictures in these these relievers in so we
we told you for a long time it could be done.
It has been done, it will be done, and we're
officially back the Dodgers on their way to being undefeated
(07:15):
and the Giants on their way to another long, uphill
climb of the season. Um okay, So now that leads
us to what about football? If you've been listening, we
got some breaking news in regards to the NFL. What
it's gonna look like. Will they get the financial deals
uh done before they you know, before camp starts on time?
(07:39):
What will the season look like? All of those things.
But there's a story out about the importance of college
football to one network, how Rome could officially fall if
college football doesn't happen. I'll explain that up coming next.
But first, hey, Doug out leave. And with all that's
(08:01):
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I sent the story to a couple of friends. I
thought it was fascinating. And look, if you think it's fascinating, great,
(09:29):
If you don't, all right, well that's that's too too bad.
It sucks to be you. Right, Um, Okay, So industries
are are tied together. And I would say that the NFL,
which by the time Roger Goodell leaves his post, it
will be on every network and on ESPN, maybe on
(09:52):
T and T, maybe on Turner as well. That that's
the genius to Goodell is he's been able to spread
out instead of instead of giving exclusivity to Fox, or
to CBS or two, NBC or to ESPN, because his
product continues to draw such great ratings, he's been able
(10:12):
to get more and more money for more and more networks.
And the thought is that ESPN, in an effort to
keep the Monday night football package, we'll move more. We'll
move back to ABC so they'll still have ESPN games.
We got Thursday night, Fox and NFL network games. Right,
So you got Fox, NFL Network, ESPN, ABC, CBS, Big Fox, NBC.
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That's like seven networks all carrying the NFL that nobody
has that nobody has that, So the NFL almost has
to play because if not, that is a gigantic not
just financial hole to dig out of for the league,
but for all those networks because they're they're they're advertising
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is sold based upon having NFL games. And it's not
just the actual games. It's the shoulder programming. Right, CBS,
you come up the big a f C game into
sixty minutes. Sixty minutes would not draw nearly as well
if there was no NFL game leading into it. Even
though there's a Sunday night game. Many people just they
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get drawn in by one promo, one story coming up
the sound and you're like, Okay, I'll stay and then
maybe change over to the to the Sunday night game
at some point. Except on the West Coast, we get
it all by the way. So I saw this story
and I just found it to be fastest. So college
football we're getting closer and closer to decision making time
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right now. Many of the conferences have announced, the big
conferences announced they're going conference only play. I read this
story in Sportaco. Sportacos a website that really tracks UM.
We use it mostly for contracts. You can I don't
know how they do it. They get the details to
like every contract in American professional sports sportacal rights, no
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company has more money tied to the fate of the
upcoming college football season in the Walt Disney Company, the
dominant corporate force in college football. Disney's ESPN co owns
two conference networks, has broadcast deals with nearly all the
college football's top division and televises every major bowl. It
also owns literally a chunk of the smaller postseason games,
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and controls commercial rights to sponsors and naming rights to
the biggest. Last year's ESPN family of networks devised televised
two two games and sold seven point five million dollars
in ads, according to Standard Media Index. To put that
in perspective, ESPNS NFL package only generated thirty one point
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thirteen point eight million dollars. The numbers don't include the
college games televised by ESPNS a CC network, SEC Network,
nor the plethora of other matchups streamed on ESPN plus
the digital service, which called five dollars a month, and
it's popular among college football fans. I think it's crazy.
It's not just the five two million dollars that they're
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in it for ABC, which is also owned obviously by Disney,
is two fifty eight million dollars. So I think here's
this is interesting. Dave dan Cohen says ESPN business in
college sports, primarily college football, is actually an ecosystem, and
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their business is organic, as opposed to inorganic buying rights
to Major League Baseball then selling ads and securing affiliate
deals off the content is inorganic. It's a transactional piece
of business. When you own the Bowl games, when you
own the networks, that become the business unit of itself.
Here's the downside to it. They're so all in if
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it doesn't happen. Remember Disney's parks haven't been opened for
months either. Disney also has a cruise line. Anybody going
to Cruise Diamond and a cruise anytime soon. We're talking
the Walt Disney Company. Now. The good part is that
Disney Plus. Because everybody's been stuck at home and you
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want to get your Star Wars fix in or you're, uh,
you're what's the what's the not Superheroes? What's the Marvel?
You want to get your Marvel Comics movies? Right, you
gotta go Disney Plus and then you can watch him,
and that's what a lot of us have been doing.
You signed up for Disney Plus when you didn't think
you would because it didn't have the content previously. But
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now your kids are stuck at home, and they may
be stuck at home for another year, and you better
have that Disney. But that's the good side. The bad
side is Disney parks. No one's been in for months,
and now they can be open. They can only have
like capacity, and we'll see how long that lasts. Disney
Cruises essentially shot. ESPN hasn't had games, and if they
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don't have college football games now He's is the ecosystem
of college football because as much as they take in,
they also pay out to those conferences, and those conferences
use that money for all of their sports. Like this
thing all works together. If you don't have college football,
and not only does college football and the college system
possibly collapse, but so too does the Walt Disney Company.
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Think about that. Think think about that for a second,
the Walt Disney Company. If you don't have college football,
if you try into this college football in the spring,
you're talking about imminent collapse. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. Jamal Adams wants to be traded.
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This is not breaking news. Jamal Adams is a tremendous player.
Also not breaking news. But Jamal Adams is is uh, well,
he's doing that thing that guys do which at the
time they think is helping them and is really hurting them,
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right and really really hurting them. Um, look, he's a
hell of a player. But going public and destroying your
head coach while being under contract for at least the
next two years and up to the next five years,
where you're not even a free agent, it's it's the
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ultimate stalemate, ultimate stalemate. You're in a pandemic. You got
a GM that didn't draft you, a coach that didn't
draft you, and you're calling out the coaches leadership and
coaching style. Meanwhile asking to be traded because you want
to change the market in terms of the contract that
you would get. If the desires to trade change teams,
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well that you listen. You're allowed to do that if
you think, hey, the best way to get paid, or
I don't like playing for this guy, I get it.
It happens. We've all had a boss like it's not
my not my type of dude, or you've worked for
a company where you think you know they're just perpetually
cheap and I'm never gonna get what I feel like
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I rightfully deserve. However, when you start calling out the coaching,
even if what you're saying is true, that this is
what people are missing. Jets fans don't like Adam Gates.
He said that Adam Gates never says anything in front
of the full team. Just not a leader, not the
right leader for for the franchise. Al Right, So a
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portion of me says, like, if you're the Jets, you
go to Jamadam said, okay, well what if we change coaches?
Would you stay? Then? No, because that's not what this
is about. This is simply about money and in your
desire to get paid. The more the more saber rattling
there is, the more of a peeing contest this becomes,
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the more you start to realize, hold on a second, dude,
the only way we're gonna trade you is if we
get a high level first round pick and something else
likely in return, not just account Why would we give
away one of the top safeties in football when we
got you under contract for one more year at almost nothing,
two more years in a reasonable sum, and up to
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four years at top of the market. Why would we
do that. We're not just gonna give you away. But
the more you say, the more it hurts your trade value.
But it doesn't hurt the trade value in the in
the eyes of the Jets, because they probably sat down
and said, look, we're not doing unless we get a
first to the third for this guy. And to this point,
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no one's ever never come to that place. So I
I think it's it's fascinating. You know. Sure, plenty of
teams are asking about the asking price, what does it cost?
But the asking price is not gonna go down even
if his value is down because they think he won't
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play for the Jets. He's going to play for the Jet.
This is the big misconception that people have. Jamal Adams
is not a free agent. He is not. He's not
going to be a free agent anytime soon. If the
Jets want to sit there and stick it to Jamal Adams,
they absolutely can't. And here's the other lie that you're
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gonna be told, You're gonna be told, well, you know,
he's only set to make eighty five thousand dollars in
base salary. The rookie contract that he signed was a
four year guaranteed deal. Within those four Within those four
year guaranteed deal, he got fourteen points seven nine million
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dollars up front. That's what he got in the very
first year. Now the second year, hey, the second year
he didn't make nearly as much cash, but he got
a three point five eight two million dollar signing bonus,
and then he made about five fifty five dollars all
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in one point uh four seven last year, two point
four this year, three point five Next year is the
fifth year option at his position goes up to nine
point eight million dollars. Then he would be a uh
technically an unrestricted free agent, but they could franchise tag
him for up to two more years and then transition
tag him after that. Jamal Adams isn't going anywhere. He's
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dealing from no leverage, and instead of trying to establish leverage,
he's killing it by killing the cavery coaching staff who
he'd have to play for or would have to trade him.
Because what does the rest of the league, as they say, well,
you know, how much value does he really have? He
doesn't want to play for the Jets anymore, But the
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Jets are still sitting there going like, who cares. He's
one of the top safeties in football. The asking price
for him heading into his second contract should be a
first and something else. The Jets are. The Jets are
gonna rightfully believe his value is still the same, whereas
the rest of the league is going to take his
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value down a notch and maybe even two. And I'm
not saying it's because he calls out, calls out uh
his head coach. It's because the appearance means it makes
it really sticky for him to play for set head coach.
That's what it does. But I always find these things
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interesting where you'll get people who just lie about NFL players.
They'll say their contracts aren't guaranteed. Yes, say, our first
roundraft picks contracts guaranteed, and most of it is paid upfront,
most of it, like his his contract was twenty four years,
twenty two million dollars. He made fourteen point seven when
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he first signed the contract. He made over a half
his money the second he signed that contract. And then
that doesn't take into account next year's fifth year option,
which is ten million dollars, so it's front and backloaded.
He's in the middle, so it makes him look like
he makes pennies on the dollar when the truth is
that's just based upon how the contracts actually built. That's
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what that is. Eight seven seven ninety nine Foxes the
phone number. Great second hour of the show We have
for you, Absolutely phenomenal. John middle Cauf will joined us
upcoming get his thoughts on Jamal Adams. But if I'm
the Jets, I sit there and I put my price down.
This is what I think he's worth. You know, if
if you like real estate, you guys like you, guys
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like the site zillo Zilla has the make Me Move.
You know, you can list your house. You just go, hey,
make me move. Oh you like my house, cool, pay
me two hundred above what everyone else in the neighborhood
is getting for their house per square foot, and I'll
give it to you. That's to make me move price.
That's the Jets should be. We got a guy under contract.
If you want them, you're gonna have to overpay based
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upon this offer. If you can't do it, you move on.
That guy in order to get paid has to keep
showing up be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio,
a app Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. John middecaff
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will join us in the second. You know, here's the thing, Uh,
I've done a lot of these shows here. I remember
doing the show when um, when Drew Brees uh said
I will never agree with somebody who disrespects the flag.
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And I remember walking out there's like a sound stage
basically we're Colin does the show, and I was hosting
the show thinking to myself, God, these shows are no
fun because there's nothing you can really say because look,
who's the who's the cat from the Is it the
Orioles who didn't kneel before the flag? Kneel for the flag?
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Last night? There's the giants giants and and I think
it's a great point that that's being made, which is
by by some people, which is like, hey, to the
people who kneel, and it's your right to kneel. If
you want people to believe it's your right to kneel,
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you know what else you have the right to do?
You have the right to stand at attention before the
flag as well. That's how this country works, that's how
the exercise works. Figure it out. Okay. No one is saying,
or at least I'm not saying that you're not allowed
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to protest peacefully, especially when the national anthem is being played.
I wouldn't do it. I do think it's disrespectful for
the before the flag. It's intentionally distres respectful. Also, please
stop being dishonest. It's not about the flag. It's not
about yes it is it is. It's about what the
flag represents to you, and if to you it represents
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oppression or police brutality, like okay, and you believe that
kneeling before it is your personal protest, you're allowed to.
You're also allowed to burn the flag, that is, that
is protected right. But you're also allowed to respect the
flag and to stand at at at attention before That's
what you're supposed to do. And I think different situation
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calls for different things, you know, like if it was
the Olympics this summer, I don't believe you kneel before
the flag. If you're at the Olympics, you're representing the country,
you stand at attention on the national anthem's play. It's
different than when you're in the country. That's a different discussion.
We'll get to that next summer. If if next summer's
sports actually happened, we don't know. But I was I
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was doing the radio show and Drew Brees and look,
I disagree with the tone own because Drew was doing that.
I don't even want to hear it. This is what
it means to me. I didn't think it was the
worst thing in the world. I think he was saying
what the flag meant to him, which is honest, but
you would have thought people said, you were saying things
about somebody's mother, right, how people call him out And
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I remember walking out saying like, look, if we can
take away the tone of what he's saying, and that
one those couple of words when he said, I will
never agree with because that just that sounds kind of
closed off. When when had he simply said, look, this
is what the flag represents to me. Here's why I stand.
I don't think anybody could have had had found and
found in fault with it. They had a couple of
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grandpas who fought and died and okay, like that sort
of represents to you, to some people representing something different. Um,
but but we we become the least fun country ever.
And America is a lot of things. America is fun.
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We're fun. We're fun. If it's got water, we found
a way to put something in it that you know. Now,
everybody's doing that water surfing. You gets see this. Everybody's
doing the water surfing where you catch the wake behind
the boat and you don't you no longer have the handle,
Like that's fun. I don't know if that was invented
in America, but we're gonna take that one and count
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call it as our own. Jet skis feel American big
power boats, American surfing, American Hawaiian but American. Whatever that
we'll we'll take it America. There's a lot of fun
things to this country that individually you can get other places.
You can't get everything we do in another country. But
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the Washington formerly known as Redskins football team not picking
a nickname only only shows what I've long said, which
is that's actually a hard to find a dictat. You
don't want to be offensive. On the other hand, you
don't want to be carked tun ish, and you just
don't have time on your side. And oh yeah, by
the way, I think the thing that they're gonna find
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is the biggest mistake is losing the Redskin moniker on
the side of the helmet. That was anyone who who
wants to point out anything about the name being disrespectful.
The Native American leader on the side of the Washington
Redskins helmet look like look like a proud warrior. That's
what it looks like. So now they're not gonna have
a name for a football team. This is this is
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the the if the police are running buck we I
think we can all agree that so too are the
the PC police. Because you can find fault with almost
every name, and instead of rushing it, the Redskins will
just go with the Washington football team. Maybe they add
a nickname, maybe they don't. Let's just see what the
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polling says as the season gets underway. Let's get you
tis to go and try and find out what else
is going on. I quity got Doug. We're still awaiting
the results of voting by NFL player reps who proved
the owner's proposal of changes to the c b A.
If the proposal does pass, it paves the way for
training camps to begin full bore. The NFL Players Association
Executive Committee voted unanimously to recommend the approval of the
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owner's proposal. Big news in college football. Michigan State's entire
football team will quarantine for the next fourteen days after
one player and two staff members tested positive for the coronavirus. Now,
get this, about four hours before this news broke publicly,
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Michigan States starting right tackle Jordan's read tweeted quote, guys
are testing positive across the country, left and right. Why
is there still discussion on a season? Why is it
taking so long to make a logical decision? Let me
guess revenue unquote with revenue in all caps. Yes, you idiot, God,
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I just don't look. Look, Jordan reed, college football fans writers, Okay, yes,
college football makes money. That money is used to pay
for everything that you have, you idiot. Revenue is not
a bad thing. It is a fact of life with
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we're not operating charities. Okay, it's not what this is.
College football is not a charity because if it was,
you wouldn't have all that gear, you wouldn't have all
the stadiums, would have those coaches who wouldn't have all
the the cryo chambers. Let me get revenue. Yeah, they
want to play or they lose massive, massive amounts of money.
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That this is what happens when you have a little
bit of your intelligent and you have a little bit
of knowledge, you know part of the story. Like look, dude, yeah,
Like obviously you have no real world experience. I don't
know if people understand how Parisley close we are to
the college system, not just sports, the college system collapsing,
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and that would be catastrophic to the economy, catastrophic. Like
you have zero clue what you're talking about. You should
do yourself a favor and not speak. Okay, let the
adults in the room that understand how things work. Okay,
Michigan State is a school of people, Okay for people.
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So in addition to the athletic department likely losing in
the hundred million dollar range if they don't have football,
and they'll still lose a bunch of money if they
have football and don't have fans, but it won't be
as much money. So that would set all of Michigan
State athletics back for years. If you don't have students
on campus, it's not just their fees. It's not just
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the room, the room and board which the school would
lose out on. All of the fundraising functions would would
go away. That builds up, uh, that builds up the coffers,
the town. All the hotel rooms. What what what? What
are the hotels not just you know bed and breakfast,
but all the big hotel chains, all the big restaurants
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and the local pubs. What do they do for revenue?
Like you just didn't, just stop talking. Revenue is not
a bad thing. I'm not sitting here as the ultimate
capitalists saying throw kids out there. Look, if you test positive,
your quarantine for two weeks and then you go back
and you play football, this is not hard m And
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if you go home, you still would have the same
or greater likelihood of getting sick, only you don't have
the medical care you have at home. So shut the
hell up with the revenue. Dude. You don't know what
you're talking about, you know, but you don't actually know
a little bit of knowledge. It's actually a scary thing times.
Lets get the John Middle coffee joints. Us. God, these
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people driving crazy? How are you like you're excited? I
just I don't like this is what happens with college
football fan, college football writer, now college football player. They're like, man,
they make a lot of money. Yes, they make money. Yes,
all of these things cost money. You have to make
money to pay for things. That's how the world works.
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You can't just keep cutting checks to people with no
revenue coming in. I don't. I don't know why. It's
such a it's it's like a boogeyman. You know. You
bring up a good point about some of these cities,
and on the West Coast, I think timetimes we forget
because you know, like usc U, c l A, they're
in major cities. But I worked at Fresno State and
Fresno State football is a major revenue driver for the town. Also,
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the Save Marks Center, where Fresnen State plays basketball in
brings everyone from Taylor Swift to the Rolling Stones come through,
which equal a lot of money. And then obviously a
lot of the big programs outside of the West Coast
are not in major cities. When I worked for the Eagles,
I went to a Penn State practice in the middle
of nowhere. All my friends that do the SEC it's
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all these cities are not major cities, right, and I
just think that people don't quite grasp especially the media
can be very anti capitalism and business and listen, the
n C double has their own issues, but I don't
think people quite comprehend. And if you haven't understood it
during the coronavirus of when you shut down or when
you don't do things go away and they do not
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come back, you know, it's it becomes very complicated, and
I think a lot of people just either don't want
to get it or or incapable of quite understanding the
ramifications of some of this stuff. Uh, we're watching Major
League Baseball being played, watching uh NBA basketball being played.
I mean, logic is that the NFL can work this
thing out as well. What do you your guys in
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the league that you talked to, they think we're having
a season. Yeah, a buddy yesterday, he's like, I'm officially
an NBA or NFL quarantine. Basically he just gets tested
every day, you know, just as a scow and coaches
and right now the players you know, are doing that
thing where they get tested and then they at least
the quarterbacks the veterans don't officially report for a couple
more days where they get tested and they stay away
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for a couple of days. You know. In pro sports,
I don't think people quite grasp this. Like in college
sports they had like coach k or Nick Saban. They
impact and their words for the way you're gonna run
the business have a lot of influence. Andy Reid and
Bill Belichick have no impact on the setup of these protocols.
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It's a league office thing. It's an owner thing. The
coaches and gms. I mean, they may have their opinions,
but no one care. It's all about money, and I
think they're just kind of have to figure it out
as they go. The the NBA has the bubble. I
think baseball is a better example, right because these guys,
like last night for the Dodger game, the Dodgers all
go home and then they come back. So there's gonna
have to be a lot of self responsibility. And I
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was thinking about it today, Like the older players in
the league, like a J. J. Watt or Richard Sherman,
especially guy with families, It's like, yeah, it won't be
an issue. But think about a lot of people in
the NFL. A lot of guys are single players under
twenty five years old. You know, to have those guys focus,
especially in some of these cities that are are are open. Uh,
could be a little challenging. Uh, you know, just the
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just the number of people you have on an NFL
team is double a baseball team, and baseball's double a
basketball team. So it's just you're just dealing with a
lot of a lot of younger people that have, you know,
discretionary income, so they can kind of do whatever they want.
There's an expression I've heard in in media which I
think works for Jamal Adams something which is you can
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be right and you can be out of a job. Right. Um,
I don't think he'd be out of a job. But
he may be right that Adam Gaze isn't the right guy.
He may be right that he's underpaid. He might be
right that they don't, you know, love him or appreciate
him because Joe Douglas didn't draft him or eating these things.
But that doesn't mean that they're going to move him
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because well, he's hurting his own value with many of
his statements. And oh yeah, by the way, he's under
contract for the next couple of years because he's not
a free agent, right he's in his fourth year. Then
he's got his fifth year option, then potentially could be
franchise tag for two or three years. Like, there's no
reason that they have to move Jamal Adams, even if
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everything he's saying is in fact correct. Well, and the
and the flip side is if you are the Jets
and you're like on the fence, like you would move him.
If you think about probably the three most famous kind
of younger players hold out slash trade demands recently was
Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, and Khalil mac Now, Aaron Donald
was never available, but if he they had said, like, yeah,
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we'll think about trading this guy, every team in the
league would have been lined up. Gruden makes him available.
Every team in the league has lined up offering multiple ones.
Jalen Ramsey maybe a little less because he had just
you know, it's not like a bad character guy, but
he's got of a pain, but he's so elite and
he's a corner. Multiple teams were willing to trade a
boatload of picks. Jamal Adams is a box safety player,
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you know, very good against the run, good blitzer, but
you get paid those two guys, the two defensive lineman's
rushed the passer. Jalen covers the wide receivers. This guy
plays the run. You know, if I need a sweet safety,
I need a guy, especially in the prime of his career.
Can he cover George Kittle and Travis Kelsey. That's because
that's like what they just drafted Isaiah Simmons to do
in Arizona. Like that's the thought process behind it. That's
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not really Jamal's deal. So every team, if I am
Joe Douglas and I inherited this problem because I didn't
draft this guy or hire the coach, I go, well,
we did draft this guy six overall and he's one
of our better players. I'm not just gonna give him
away to like Belichick for a third or Howie Roseman
or something, because no one's gonna be offering a first
round pick. So I'm just unless he's a complete headache,
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which I'll give Jamal credit, he's he's doing everything possible
to to kind of will his way out of there.
But I you just you're not gonna give him away.
And that's it's a tough spot. You know, welcome to
the NFL, Joe Douglas as your first GM major problem, Like,
is he gonna show up because jama All gonna hold
out because if he shows up the camp, he just
lost a bunch of leverage right there. Uh, this is
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not the NBA where you Kyrie Irving goes trade me
to one of these three teams, Ranthony Davis, you get
traded those teams. Like what. Joe Douglas doesn't care. So
I think the situation is a little complicated on Jamal
Adams side. Now, I will give him his media strategist credit.
If you do want to force a trade, just come
out and blast the coach, even though he's already done
it before. But like legit put it in print and
you've got a chance to get traded. What do you
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what do you do um with with the coach? If
you're Joe Douglas, Well, I mean I know they're friends, right,
they had worked together in Chicago. I have friends in
the league that worked with Adam Gaze, and you know,
everyone will say he's a little weird, but I think
most coaches are kind of like them. I think things
have gotten a little weird in his career. Whether it's
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the money, whether it's just not handling the power, I
don't know, it's it's not gone well, you know in
uh in New York, but they think goes seven and
nine last year with some disasters. What who's to say
the division is much more wide open with Brady gone.
Everyone's kind of annoyting the Bills. And I think the
Bills are gonna be good. But what if we'll be
winning nine games? I mean, we'll see. I wouldn't just
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Adam Gate was kind of like Kyle Shanahan and Sean
McVeigh before those guys that his personality is completely different,
and that's clearly kind of feels what's holding him back,
not like no one ever goes you know what Adam
Gaze doesn't know offense, but it feels like, you know,
he understands scheme. It's this he can't get along, you know.
He kind of feels like a lot of the Belichickie
and guys over the years. He just he can't have
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a conversation as a human. And I would say in
two thousands, if it was like, well if he can coach,
who cares? In two thousands twenty, in the times we
live in, it feels like it's a little harder to
be like that. It puts Donald into a really weird situation. Right,
because his whole thing is I'm going to be the one.
I'm gonna ride Donald, right because because Manning is the
guy who, um what, whether it's real or imagined, like
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That's loves him that he yeah, Gaze, Manning loves Gaze.
And if Manning loves you, he squares by him, then
there you go. Um it puts Donald in this, uh
in having an unenviable position like he didn't he didn't
pick Gaze. He's a second coach. I'm not sure he's
an actual fit for that system anyway. But but but
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if Sam's good for Adam, and Adam makes them like
you know, a Pro Bowl level player that's gonna put
a lot of money in Sam's pocket, make him a
star in New York, and then he'll like them. Right.
It's it's really that simple. Unless their relationship is already
kind of weird. Who knows. I mean, i'd say Adam
Gaze and just that whole Jets organization was what's going
on with you? It's just it's kind of in tatters
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right now. It's it's it's closer to the Washington football
team than I think most people. Uh you know, when
we just say names of teams like they're dumpster fire
right now, and Sam's really the only thing that can
save them. I feel like the Washington football team is
the perfect example of how paralyzing so much of this
stuff is, right, that's that's I actually think it's perfect
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to not having to day because no matter what you do,
somebody's gonna be ticked. No matter what you do, somebody's
gonna be ticked. You just pick a random nickname like yeah, no,
I mean you know you're gonna do away with anything
Native American. Okay, if you want to say that Redskins
was uh, you know, it was a slur, like I
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would argue with you that wasn't the attent and no
one actually uses it as a slur. But okay, if
if enough Native Americans think that, that's fine. I don't
think anyone was offended by the actual mascot logo, right,
that was like a proud Native American warrior. But if
you completely wipe clean any Native American, um, uh, you know,
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remembrance on it now of a sudden, like well, that
that's weird. Um. You know there's the uh, the Ron
Rivera wanted some sort of military thing to it. Okay,
but if you, but do we love all aspects of
the past? Military red tails maybe makes sense. I don't know,
Like I almost feel like they're so realized by obviously
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the times period you don't have enough time, but also
the we don't want to offend everybody, but people are
offended by everything and anything. I think not having nicknames perfect.
I don't know why. I was shocked by the reaction,
but when they announced that they were just gonna go
by the Washington football team this year, and everyone freaked,
like did you just expect that people? And maybe they
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did that they were going to have a new nickname
before the season. This was an owner who was Adam
and he was never going to change. So when he
was forced into it, it's not like because my first
reaction was, well, you know, you just gotta take your
time before, like you would get married, right, but at
least if you get married, you can always get a
divorce if it doesn't go wrong. He could not pick
a nickname and have it this year, and then realized, wow,
we gotta change next year. Who whatever they pick is
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their next name. It's got a stick. And like you said, whatever,
let's say hypothetically they would have called the Red Tails
or the Red Hawks or half the people would not
have liked it, and then you know, it would have
been like, oh did we pick the right one? It
would have in a disaster. I think it looks pretty solid.
I would if you look at like a lot of
these soccer clubs in Europe, just called the Washington Football Club.
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I mean, just call it something like that. It's fine.
I think it looks solid. Washington's a solid name, the
color is good. Who cares? That's fine. Maybe maybe just
go with a big W, you know, instead of instead
of the R, and just move on like that. I
think there's a chance they just keep it as is. Um,
the the l A Rams, they're an interesting story. Right
two years ago McVeigh was so hot that anybody had
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coffee with him had a chance to get a head
coaching job. Um. He's made some changes, reworked the staff,
got rid of Todd Gurley and now there you know,
and look, if the playoffs were expanded last year, he
would have made it. What are your expectations for the
Rams this year? Well, I think something no one's talking about,
and uh, I don't know all the details of the
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Wade Phillips situation. I think sometimes way he gets to
a point where he wants to be paid, like he's
like Steph Curry or something. He wants stupid money and
as he goes big but he's good and uh they
got rid Away Phillips didn't renew his contract. However you
want to quantify it or you know, verbalize it, they
went with a guy who's never been a coordinator, who
has only been a league like three years. So to me, defensively,
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and you look at their roster, they lose Littleton, who
was one of the better cover linebackers in the league.
They got two sweet guys and Donald and Jalen Ramsey
the rest of the guys, Like are they that good? Uh?
Their offense gonna be fine, you know in that scheme
Sean McVeigh. The offense wasn't really the problem last year
beside when they couldn't pass protect. But defensively, remember those
first couple of years, like they were really really stout
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because they were so deep and I just I don't know,
I the the divisions really hard. Uh It's not like
Seattle or San Francisco are intimidated by them, even the
even the Cardinals. So I think it's gonna be difficult. Now.
I still think McVeigh is good. They have enough good
players on offense. But if you tell me that like
Ramsey or Aaron Donald were to have him injury, they
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would be in major trouble. Because I think the biggest
question mark for any team that's like a legit, you know,
playoff contender, and that the Rams, like you said, they
would be in the playoffs if they had last year,
had the seven teams. I don't know, man, I think
the margin freyre on a first time defensive coordinator who
doesn't just inherit some loaded defense is gonna be is
gonna be a lot more difficult than I just think
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people assume what can we legitimately expect from the Buccaneers.
You know, I think there are a major question marks
just with the the head coach and the quarterback. I mean,
they philosophically have operated consistently very different over the last decade,
especially as Tom has gotten older. He has done all
his work in the short and intermediate game, and that's
what they built the team around. Throwing the running backs,
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throwing the Edelman, throwing the Gronk, like the days of
Randy Moss throwing bombs away just has not been happening.
And when you close your eyes and you think of
Bruce arians I think of Carson Palmer and now Jameis
Winston throwing bombs because that's what Bruce likes to do.
And you go back to when he had been Ben
Office Burger, like he likes throwing the ball deep and
Tom can't move that offensive line. I know they drafted
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a guy early, but that that's that's the type of
thing that would an offseason and a normal training camp
would be beyond invaluable because you would work things out.
And I think Bruce is an excellent coach, so most
any good coach can adapt, but it takes time to
adapt because you you know things work and you go, well,
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we got Mike Evans, we got Chris Godwin, like we're
ready to roll now. And Tom's like, wow, I love
this play against this defense and it's the wheel route
to the running back. And Bruce is like, well, I
like hitting Mike Evans on that skinny post. You know.
Just that's what they're it just and they're two high
level guys, and I think they would come to an agreement.
How do they have time? Like I understand I'm sure
they've been texting Colin, probably even spent some time together
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when they shouldn't have. That. That's different than having the
whole unit out there at practice. O t A s
are stupid for the most part, unless you have a
brand new quarterback and you're implementing a new offense or
melding an offense together. I think definitely early on in
the season. Tom has run the Tom Brady offense for
the last decade. Right, it wasn't Josh's, it wasn't be
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It became Tom's offense, and Josh melded it to his own.
But Bruce arians has not run the Tom Brady offense now.
The Tom Brady's an all time great, the greatest player ever,
one of the greatest athletes of all time. You'd say
he should be able to adapt. He's forty three, you know.
It's not like you're getting him at thirty four where
he's gonna be open like Tom does what Tom does
because he has physically he can't move anymore. He never could,
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but he really can't now, and there's some pressure. It's like, well, okay,
you're away from Bill, what's it? And Tom knows that,
so I it's gonna be challenging. I think it's gonna
be a lot harder than despite the roster on paper,
especially the skill guys look sweet. It's just we've seen
it before in football. Unlike baseball. It's not like a
plug and play league. Yeah, last thing playing golf this weekend.
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H Now, I'll probably just hanging out, just enjoy some
enjoy some baseball, drink some beers. Actually might I might
get out getting nine. And tomorrow maybe I'm playing a
Tustin ranch where I have in tusting where I went
to high school. I grew up in Orange. I've actually
never played the course playing over this afternoon, but I
I was nearly arrested in high school. That was a
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spot we go to one of the greens and and
have some old English had I had a couple of
those spots with some mad dog. Every everyone in high
school has a good spot to drink on a golf
course with some alcohol. Today you couldn't pay me to
drink now. Yes, that's that's actually very very accurate. Alright,
owee on tap for the weekend, have a good one,
Thanks so much. John, anybody all right? That's a John
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