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and I apologize. So here they are from the Mercedes
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Where do you think you are on the Dan Patrick Show? Greetings,
Welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Jason Smith. Doug Gottlieb in for Dan My show hurt

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nights here on Fox. Doug every day, and you do
you have like forty five jobs the next couple of days, right,
Like you're actually doing a show on an airplane. I think, right,
that would be amazing. I think that's actually be the
first guy to do that. You will do a show
to do it. By the way, if you have WiFi
like you can do like a Facebook live, you don't

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really matter dropping out. It's not the dropping out. I'm
not sure if it has the bandwidth to do it.
But I mean I FaceTime my kids from the airplane.
That's actually how I parents. Nobody home, like, Hey, go
to bed instead of wait till your father got us,
wait till your father FaceTime your father face that you
look at this phone, you look around, and look at

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this phone right now, and you look at your father.
Turn that phone around, turn that phone around. I mean,
we can't be that far from that from actually being it.
I'm on a I'm on a plane, though I can't
do no, you could do the show. No, I mean
flying from l A to New York. He got the
shows at noon. You're in the air. You have already
taken off. You're in the middle of that flight. We have,
by the way, reached it at my at at my

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household the uh text me from upstairs, Hey dad, can
you get me some water please? For bedtime? You open
the door to that. That's yeah, texting from upstairs. Yes, Well,
my wife has always I've always texted her, you know, like, hey,
is any you want? And then somehow my daughters became
aware of the fact that she has texted me down

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her request for water before bedtime, and uh yeah, and
so now all of a sudden, I'm like, all right,
let's let's see what you Basically, it's more I'm a
mobile order service. Okay, yes, certainly, I collect no no fees,
which needs to change. You're gonna put a dumb waiter
in your house, so you just put it in and
just you know how to have a go all the
way up to us like that out grandmall. Use of
the dumb waiter. That's a that's a great one. Right.

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There's like five words in the five five names for
things in the English Dictionary that you just love to use,
right that and also the uh the ball in um
what is it? Yes, yes, hut, there's like five of
those which like anytime you hear you laugh, even there's

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no actual reason to laugh. And lazy susan. Oh yeah yeah,
lazy susan is good. Right. If you can get them
all in one sentence without without forcing it, that's pretty good. Yeah,
I dig that. Yeah, well, listen, I I dug through
the lazy susan in order to try and find the
shuttle cock, which I could not seem to recover, and

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I sent a note to my wife using the dumb
waiter I need like to there's there's, there's two more.
We'll figure it out. That's okay. I mean just the
fact you're keeping your shuttlecock in your kitchen. Yes, I
think it is shuttlecock stiving the kid. Yep, you know,
same spot, yeah, right below where the dishes are on
the bottom. But a lot of NBA to get to.
We got Rick Bucker coming up in a few minutes.
Who's got the latest on so many uh situations in

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the NBA that are starting to escalate, none bigger than
what's been going on with the Lakers for the past
few days. They had the big game on Thursday night
where they come from behind to beat the Celtics, and
the Celtics have all kinds of problems as well. Then
they get boat raced by the seventies Sixers on Sunday,
and Sixers are debuting their new lineup, which has gone

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gang bushes for them so far. But still, even though
the trade deadline is in our rear view mirror, Magic
Johnson still weighing in on it, still telling everybody about
why they didn't make a trade for Anthony Davis. Basically
Magic said before the game against the Sixers that the
Pelicans didn't really have any interest in making a deal. Basically,

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at the end of the day, what happened happened, and
we knew that when we started. But hey, it is
what it is. I'm gonna say this again with making
this about thinking these guys babies, because that's what you're
treating about their professionals, all of them. And this is
how this league works. They know it, I know it.

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That's how it goes, all right, So take us inside
because you know the stuff that it was. By the way,
that is one of the least impressive representations of you know,
like the the smiling, laughing it off as the we've
been had you know that we've we've and the media
has been duped. Is I don't know. I just I
don't feel like, you know, Magic saying they didn't act

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in good faith or whatever. You gotta give us a
little bit more details, because I think if he did,
his point would be made smarter, wouldn't it. Yeah, Well, look,
the because the Lakers got played, they got played this
entire process. They didn't have control of it, and they
allowed control to get out of themselves to the Pelicans,
and the rest of the NBA has now turned things

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on them. Hey look Lebron and the Lakers. Look how
arrogant they are during this whole thing. Mentioned Anthony Davis's name,
the Lakers name is kind of mud and in many
NBA circles because of this. And now the Lakers get
out try to make a trade and they get played.
All their players names wind up being mentioned on TV
many times, and they have a very listless effort two
nights before the trading deadline, and now they're trying to

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pick the pieces up and go forward. I mean, they
got this whole process. They got played. Um. I would
also say the media got played to be to be
totally candid, like the media got duped because from what
I've told, none of the trade proposals had were even
close to what has been reported to being offered. And

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that's really what he was kind of getting down to
it is, uh, is that basically kind of these leak
sources were all coming from the Pelicans. Hey, look look
what they're throwing at us. Look where they're throwing at us,
which is not what they were doing. Look, compare it
to any other Tobias Harris was traded. Now, look, I'm
not saying Tobias Harris is Anthony Davis, okay, but in

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the should have been a should have been an All
Star or borderline all star, like Tobias Harris have an
outstanding And whether you want to credit um uh you know,
the front office of the Clippers, or just compared any
other trade, these these gms move kind of silently and
the deal just gets made. Why does it do it

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so that it doesn't affect the team the way it
affected the Lakers. The Pelicans simply wanted their piss because
they know they're losing Anthony Davis, and their reaction to
being offered several different trade options from the Lakers over
the past several months was to not only make it public,
but to completely inflated to try and poison the well.
And it worked. It absolutely worked, because because you know,

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you have young players that are on social media, like damn,
they're throwing all of us in there. They have zero
value for us. And they also bought into, i think
the idea of Lebron's the GM Bronze the coach and
and this is what Lebron wants, you know, regardless of
what's what's true and what's not true, I can only
tell you that the Lakers didn't just get played. The

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media got played. Where now we're making out to see
magic made all these offers and they got rebuked. That's
not what happened. They got rebuked, But that was those
weren't the offers, um and so now so there were
combinations of those. What you're saying is there were combinations
of these guys offering Alonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Zubas who
doesn't not part of the team. And they're not offering

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all of their players for Anthony Davis. They're not idiots,
they're just not There's there's no compare that too, and
that's a herschel Walker trade. They're not making the herschel
Walker trade. They're not complete. They they think Kyl Kuzma
is really really good. They think most people think Alonzo
Ball his dad aside, has a chance to be really
really good. Um, no one. I don't think people love

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Brandon Ingram, But look what Brandon Ingram did to to
Kyle Kyrie Irving when he played against the Boston Celtics. Like,
look he has a lot of value. They're not throwing
them all into a pot and going like here, take
all our first round picks, take our caps face, take
it all. Like that's that they don't feel the nest.
They know Anthony Davis wants out. They know he's out
either now or at at at uh during the off season.

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Like that's just the reality of it. And so no,
those those those deals weren't offered. That's just what's been
that's just what's been reported. But that's just because the
Pelicans duped everybody there. It was actually the one smart
thing that Dell Dems did. On the other hand, here's
the stupidity of it. You end up making it. So
the Lakers are like, dude, f that, dude, Now, we're
not gonna offer anything near what we offered before. And

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they're hoping that the Celtics offered Jason some Jayson Tatum deal.
But the cellthing, like I said this Friday on Colin Show,
like you think you're gonna get over on on Danny
Ainge in a trade. Who's gotten over in Danny Age
in a trade. He's gonna crush you. Why because he's
crushed everybody else. And Dell Demps has done nothing to
help the Pelicans. Like Dell Demps consider here puff out

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his chest, like what a great job he did. But
he let Rondo walk, he signed Julius Randall, and the
team is worse for it. They just are so I mean, like, look,
he's hoping that the Knicks not only land the number
one pick, but decided to trade the number one pick
for Anthony Davis. The Knicks are going to give him
a bunch of crap and return, Like that's what people
do when you have a guy who wants out and

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only lists a couple of different destinations as possibilities. So
I don't think that magic um articulated himself as well.
He did the magic thing he did. You know, these
guys are professionals. We got it all under control. Like, look,
he doesn't have a perfect team. They're trying to figure
it out on the fly. He does. He needs to

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understand that though these guys are professionals, they're far less
mature and far more prone to believe social media than
they are anything else. And part of the part problem
with social media and media in general is they just
took the Pelican story and ran with it. And that's
what they believe to be the asking price for Anthony Davis,
which which is not in any way accurate. Well, yeah,

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the price for Anthony Davis is gonna be whatever the
market bears. And the Pelicans can pat themselves on the
back right now, going to look at that we took
care of The Lakers were a small market team and
and hey, we we did phenomenal stuff here and and
we stood up to them and wouldn't you know, count
out of their demands. But they're gonna get to the
off season and they're gonna go, oh, we really screwed
ourselves because this is the only there's only one star

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available right now. It was Anthony Davis in theory, and
these are the offers that came in, so you could
be underwhelmed by them, but it doesn't mean that in
the future they're going to get better. This is the
one guy you could have right now. And the Lakers
they had the best quote offer on the table. They
seemed to be the team that most most engaged. They
didn't like what other teams had. They shut the Knicks
down right away. Porzingis doesn't want to come and sign

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long term. Okay, great, we'll revisit that later on, but
now you're gonna get to the off season and these
other teams are gonna move on. And it's not like suddenly, Okay,
we get to the off season and it's still just
Anthony Davis. You're talking about a lot of big time
players that are going to be available that the same
teams that want a d are gonna go after. They're
gonna go after Kyrie and Kevin Durant and Kemba Walker

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and all these guys. And it's like, Okay, so I
can go after one of these players and pay the money,
because money no teams care about you. I'll give you
money out of whatever you want. Or I can go
for Anthony Davis. Where you're gonna tell me, I gotta
give up three first round picks or four first round
picks and player X and player. Why I'm not gonna
do that. You know, it's because it's not like you
have to have Anthony Davis. Teams are gonna say, well,
we'll make it work with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving,

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will make it work with Kemball, work with that. I
I look, I just think it depends. I think there's
just a lot of things like pick the team. Okay,
is it the Knicks? Okay, think about the things that
have to go in the knicks favor in order to
make the Anthony Davis thing. Work. Hasn't happened. Well, it's
not just that, it's it's it's the idea that, Okay,

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they gotta get either Kemba or Kyrie, and then you
would think they they you know, they're telling everybody again,
they're telling everybody they're getting Kevin Durant, Like Kevin Durant
doesn't always gonna have for breakfast this morning, let alone
what he's gonna do in July. I Like, we can
say he's going to leave the Warriors. He just had
thirty nine for the Warriors and probably double dribbled at
the end of the game. But this this this thought

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that while he doesn't fit, it won't work, they can't
keep it together. Like, okay, what's to say? He wins?
Then the Finals wins another Finals MVP, his third consecutive win, Like,
are you really gonna leave Golden State? Maybe? Maybe? But
is that are you definitely going to New York because
his boy Rich Kleiman is in New York? Like maybe,
and even if if that happens, you know, what do

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the Knicks have to offer back? And it's like all
of these things have to work out in their favorite
in order to get the dream center in area from
the Knicks. What about the Celtics, who you know, appear
to be a blue bit of a dumpster fire right now,
is they're going limping into the All Star break, Kyrie
gets hurt, They give away a twenty three point lead
when he goes down with injury and lose that home
to the Clippers, and seem to have some uh seem

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to have some chemistry issues, Like we don't know what
the Clippers look like in July because we didn't know
the Clippers. We didn't assume the Celtics. We didn't know
what the Celtics would look like in February, and they're
gonna look completely different in July. And and I think this,
this is it's the mistake of Look, I think the
Spurs did as good a job as anybody in getting

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DeMar derozen last year. But the fact is that if
you tell me you don't want to trade the Lakers
just because there are the Lakers, that's dumb. Like if
you can, if you they could have gotten a dream
scenario out of the Lakers, they showed up. Who cares
if they're in their conference? Who cares that they're stealing
your players? Like, make them pay for that. But what
they did was they made them pay uh in social media.

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They made they hurt the chemistry of their team simply
out of spite. But you end up spiting yourself. You
end up that's your bigg your potential biggest bidder, and
you don't want to chase off your whale. And it
feels like there's a chance they chased off their whale.
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or bleach your report longtime NBA insider Rick Buker, who
is working on a ten thousand word opus that's gonna
blow the doors off of Ben Simmons taking his first
three pointer of the season yesterday, Rick, I hope your
research gets done for it soon, and they both went so,

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I think that's pretty much it. I don't know that
we need ten thousand, ten might do it. Well, I
don't know. It's the crowd gasped when he shot that
three yesterday. Wouldn't wouldn't you. It's it's like seeing YETI
I mean you just like I didn't. You know, we've
heard that it could happen, but we actually haven't seen it.
So uh, look at it. I just wanted I'd like

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to see him consistently take one from fifteen sixteen seventeen
feet before we go for the whole enchilada and start
shooting threes um. But who knows. And and I will
say this in all seriousness, if he's going to become
everything that that he's projected to be, he has to
develop a jump shot of some kind. And we'll see

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if that. We'll see if that ultimately happens. Yeah, I'm listening.
I mean, you go back to last offseason and as
you know, Buke, how many NBA people said, why isn't
shoot right handed? You know, because everything in the lane
he shoots with his right hand, all the floaters and
go to the basketball and shoot right handed, and and
so there's there's some question about that. On the other hand,
I do have I do actually like the fact that
he only takes shots that he's gonna make as the

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other guys taking shot you know, Janice for years has
taken threes that he has very little chance of making,
simply to try and keep you honest. It's just it's
it's an interesting kind of juxtaposition, you know, guys that
can't shoot taking shots that can't make, as opposed to
Ben Simmons only taking shots he can make, but being guarded,
you know, in the in the in the paint, because

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everyone knows he won't shoot the basketball. Ultimately, this is
this is what I don't really understand. He had a
full year off coming to the NBA. He had a
full year, He's had plenty of time at the collegiate level.
Why has this never been developed, especially for a guy

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with his size who doesn't need to develop. He doesn't
need to be working on shot release or any of
that in terms of timing, speed, you know whatever. He
just needs to be able to catch the ball and
unleash a shot from range. And the fact that he
does not have one whatsoever is perhaps the most baffling

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aspect Because of all the people that have come into
the league, he's had to do time to be able
to do it, especially the first year being out what
what else? What else could he be he worked on
other than that, So that this is the part that
I really don't understand. His wife. We're still waiting for
this thing to happen. Yeah, look, I'm with you. And

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it wasn't like he was going he by his own accounts,
it was like he was going to class at l
s U. Right uh uh And you know, like look
his dad, it's not like his He doesn't come from
a family with a good work ethic or from from
uh you know, from a dad that wasn't a basketball
players that was a pro pro ball player in Australia. Um.
The only the only way which I will side with

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him is if you look at the progression of you know,
Blake Griffin. It took him till year five or six
before he started shooting it. You know, you look at
how um you know Brook Lopez, who's again a center.
Uh And it wasn't until kind of late in his
career now where he became a three point shooter. It
is something that he takes time to felt before you
on cork it. And I do think there's a there's

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a mental aspect to it not not quite Marquel Folds,
but in the he didn't believe he can make it.
That's why he didn't take it, because he in college
he wouldn't take wide open shots. Yeah, well, yeah, I
get all that. I would say with Blake, we saw
a progression though Blake. Blake came in. He struggled at
the free throw line. He there was really even the

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mid range wasn't quite there. But you saw him gradually
get better. And now from three particularly this year, he's
he's lights out. How many how many years is this?
Remember this is only and I agree with you that
he sat his first year. Blake said his first year
as well. So I mean, but you're also you're talking

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about legitimate bigs. We're talking about Simmons, who plays the point.
He's always played largely on the perimeter. Yes he can
attack with that size, Yes he can get some other
things done. But this evolution, I mean, marcusol is the
same thing. Marcusols Uh will shoot threes now. Uh, he

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didn't have to be to be in the role that
he had. I just feel as if if you're gonna
say I'm a point guard, this is a position that
I play, and you look at the NBA and where
it's at. I need you to be able to shoot threes.
But good raj On though functioned without it for a
time until he realized he had to have it. We've

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seen it with Derrick rose Is shooting from three point
range this year. I mean, guys realize that they have
to have it for me. Simmons came in in an
in an era and uh in a generation where you
have to know coming in that what we talked about
it all the time, like you got a you got
you got kids that are going out there and they're
not there's not shooting threes. They're they're practicing step back

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three as warmups for games. And that's where I questioned
that Ben hasn't coming along, come along faster or developed
it sooner. We are kind of burying the lead though,
right was the story the Sixers yesterday or the stories
the fact that the Lakers couldn't stop the Sixers? Yeah,
that was that was really interesting, particularly after that that

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big emotional win over the over the Boston Celtics, and
you thought, Okay, maybe they're they're on their way. And
I to say this, the guy that I'm keeping an
eye on is Lebron James right now, I can't figure
out exactly where he's at. The numbers are always going
to be impressive, but there was just too many times

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where I thought, man, he's really not he's not feeling
this game, and that considering what their aspirations are, and that, hey,
we're past this. We're past the trade deadline and the
celebration at the end of the Boston game. You know,

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there was all the innuendo about Lebron trade and half
the team and being disgruntled that a D wasn't there,
and his energy level at times in that Philly game
made me question, Okay, maybe everyone else is trying to
get past it. Is Lebron really pasted? Plus, if you're
gonna go to the Duke Virginia game, nobody's got any
problem with you going to Charlottesville, right whether what do

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you want to see a good ball game or see
coach k or you were recruiting for clutched sports, which
feels uh, it feels more accurate. Uh, But like Sunday
afternoon on ABC, and I don't know if he I'm
with you, I'm with you. He was a defensive liability
and offensively he was just kind of out there, just
kind of out there, and and they're not good enough

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for him to just be kind of out there, nor
is that what they signed up for. That was that
was that was weird because they they had people remember Jason,
they had two days off, like they played Boston and
they turned around, they play Philly, and then they got
to turn around play Atlanta, and then they come home
and play New York Like no, no no, no, they played Boston,
they won on kind of a miracle shot, and then
they had two days off before they played phil Yeah. No,

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I mean, as I said, I think it bears watching
to see where that goes and see what the the
engagement level with with Lebron is. And you would think
that in a game like this, in a statement game
like this, you have an opportunity to have a really
great little run here between Boston and Philly, re establish yourself.
And I almost feel as if this Philly loss in

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the way like say two games, but this Philly loss
in the way it happened, took away whatever good feeling
they got out of Boston. You know, the one thing
about Lebron that I've seen Rick that this this goes
even back to when he signed, is that he still
seems kind of like the hired gun. He's still like
he seems the Lakers are still at arm's length from him.
As far as just his overall dedication. I mean, just

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to say the other day, I'm not chasing anything, and
I get that as part of part of his legacy. Look,
he's done a lot of stuff, but you know, he's
got to realize that there's an entire fan base going Dude,
you are here to win championships for us. You better
be in for chasing stuff and not just you know,
worried about setting up the next part of your career.
And you got show's debuting and that's awesome, and you're,
you know, living in Brentwood and everything is wonderful. Year

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here to win championships, and I haven't seen that from him.
Is Hey, I'm buying and this is my team, which
it should have been by now. Yeah, I'm I'm leary
of buying totally into anything that Lebron says at any
given point in time. I believe if you go back
to his decision to come to l A and I

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think this is the prevailing feeling around the league that
he didn't come there to play for the Lakers. That
he didn't come there to win championships, because if he did,
as he has in every other place, there would have
been prerequisites for him coming. It would have been you
gotta go get this guy or the this you know,

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this is what the roster has to have. He's always
held and utilized his leverage to get the team structured
the way that he wanted it. He didn't do any
of that this time. And he didn't do it like
and I'm only signing a you know, a one and one.
I'm only signing a short term deal. So if you
don't have it when I get there, you have better

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have it soon afterwards or I'm out. He he signed
on the dotted line. He signed a long term deal,
and he did it before he even knew what they
were going to have on that roster. So to me,
that's the real tell in terms of why Lebron made
this move. He wanted to get to l a. The
Lakers made more sense than the Clippers, if I'm not mistaken.

(27:12):
The Lakers had the wherewithal sign him as a free agent,
and the Clippers didn't because of their money situation. And
uh and and it's where he wanted to live. He
wanted where that to be the place that his son
grows up, and so those were the most compelling reasons
for him to go and everything else, Look, can you

(27:32):
get something done, We'll see ultimately. I think at times
he has played like a guy who wants to lead
this team, and you never know when he's gonna downshift.
I mean, that's the most analizing beguiling thing about Lebron
is that I don't know like when it's going to

(27:53):
be important to him, but it's it's he's he's gauging
it and there are times it will be important to him,
and then there's times that not that it's not, and
sometimes it's just kind of mystifying why it's not. Let
me ask you about what Magic Johnson said where Um
he said that the Pelicans didn't act in good faith? Um? What? What?

(28:14):
What's your take on on that? From Magic? The whole
thing kind of felt like amateur hour. To be honest
with you, it was, and I will I'm still gonna
put it on the Lakers. They they were desperate and
they go from acting arrogant and doing things that kicks

(28:38):
off the entire league. And I don't mean by the
NBA front office, I mean, the other teams in the
league and not getting punished to the level that the
other teams think, and so they take that matters into
their own hand. Look, people, people don't like winners to
begin with, and the Lakers have certainly had more than
their share of that. And then on top of it,

(28:59):
you act like you can kind of flaunt the rules,
and then you you saw you bring in a guy
who acts the same way. I was just I was
just talking to Dwyane Wade last night and we he
said something about, you know, Lebron knows the rules and
he knows what he can get get away with. And
I said, yeah, I said, those two aren't the same.
They are the rules and then there's what Lebron can

(29:22):
get away with. And and Dwayne laughed and said and
agreed with me and said, but you have that combination
now where you're going back to the Paul George situation.
When you do stuff like that, um and you get
a five thousand fine, which is basically their parking receipts
for one night, it it makes people mad. And so

(29:42):
the same way that San Antonio treated the Lakers, Lakers
had you know, we're getting this guy, and it was
all out there and we're making this offer, and we're
making that offer that wasn't for moverything. I know that
wasn't coming out of San Antonio. Now it might have
been coming out of New Orleans this time around, but
the after the matter is, they made it painfully clear

(30:03):
that they were desperate to get a D just as
they went whole hog after Kauhi, Leonard and other teams
are just looking at it going, you know, you don't
get everything you want. And the inside of Rick Buker
a guest here on The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith,
Doug Gottlieb in for Dan right, lastly Rick when it
when it comes to k D, we watch what's going
on with Kevin Durant at Golden State upset with the media,

(30:25):
has a big night last night. The Knicks actually put
out on their season ticket holder package a picture of
Kevin Durant guarding Mitchell Robinson as they want to get
people to try to buy season tickets for next year.
I mean, what is it with Kevin Durandy. You know,
he plays phenomenally on the court, but obviously all this
stuff just really just takes up so much in that
space between his ears. It's really true, and I wish

(30:47):
I could fully explain it to you other than he's
making up for lost time in that he didn't say anything.
He didn't rock the boat when he was in Oklahoma City,
and now he's to let you know everything and anything
that that he's feeling, and he's taking as we know,

(31:08):
he's taking note of everything, and he doesn't feel the
need to apologize to anyone for for any of that.
And so it is it is a bit of a circus.
I was in the Warrior's locker room last night, and
I think it's Ethan Strouss that that that Strouss that
he called out in the in the press conference, and

(31:33):
now it's but he's got It may end up being
a solidarity thing because because Ethan was trying to talk
to a couple other players in the locker room and
they were having having none of it. And so it's whatever.
If I will say this, it's not a it's not
a thing that is tearing at the fabric of the Warriors.

(31:57):
If anything, they seem to be allying around k D. Now,
whether that's to the core or whether that's just for
appearances with the media. The fact is it's it's not
as if he's on an island. He does seem to
be angry about a number of things, and I think
I think a big part of it is the Katie

(32:19):
really wants to find a way to be his own man,
and he and he and he hasn't quite figured that out.
And so when he has it being dictated in terms
of what he's gonna do or where he's going to
go by anybody on the outside, that, uh, that's annoying
to him right now, and that's why he had the
reaction that did. Senior writer rat Bleacher Report. You can

(32:41):
filem on Twitter at Rick Buker. That's at Rick Buker.
Check out the Buker and Friends podcast as well. Rick
is always buddy. I appreciated my friend. We'll talk to
you soon, all right. So there goes Rick Buker and
Doug summing things up. At the end, Kevin Durand is
a millennial who is just trying to find out who
he is. No question, let's him amazing about Kevin Durant
is as messy as it appears to be with the

(33:04):
media and maybe with his future. You dropped thirty nine.
He's having an unbelievable season, you know, like Steph Curry
went through a nasty shooting slump, Clay Thompson has gone
through a nasty, nasty shooting slump. They're trying to figure
out how to work to Marcus Cousins in which completely
changes who they are and how they play. Draymond Green

(33:25):
hadn't been able to hit a shot at all season,
and he looks like offensively a shell of his former self,
although he's has come around of late. Durant has been
their best player in many ways at both ends of
the floor. And so it's weird, like you want to
say he's mentally weak because he does seem to let
little things that the media says and does affect him.

(33:46):
On the other hand, it doesn't actually affect him in
his place of work, which leads you to think maybe
he's mentally stronger than we're giving credit for. It's a
really weird confluence of of of kind of facts and
things that are going on to try and figure out
who and what Kevin Durant is. See, I look at
it this way because I'm already getting my Kevin Durant
necks jersey ready for next year. Ready, you know the look.

(34:08):
The Knicks put him on their season ticket holder package
before they took it down to going That might be
a bad idea, but he will get eaten alive by
the media in New York. He is someone who has
to realize that up until now he has a pretty
good reputation. He doesn't have Steph Curry's reputation, but he's
been treated pretty well by the media compared to how
other guys get look and see you want to be
Lebron James Lebron gets stuff thrown at him every single day.

(34:31):
Lebron is much more polarizing Kevin. Kevin Durant has not
been treated nearly in that in that vein no question
Oklahoma City, very soft, right, Like he had the one
headline Mr. Unreliable and then actual TV appearance where the
guy sat down with them and they talked about why
you were Mr. Unreliable and they actually made the newspaper
apologize for a headline which was accurate. Right, The usually

(34:53):
reliable is now unreliable put together. But I will take
Kevin Durant side in this. It was the MVP of
the last two finals. He was guarded and guarded Lebron
James and was the better player in the second half
of four the five games. The year before, you know,
he like he was a better player. Um. You know,

(35:14):
if you want, if you want to say Lebron had
an incredible Game one and he wasn't good in Game one,
I'll go with that, and then j R. Smith blew
it like that. That's okay. But in totality of the series,
whether you want to say the surrounding cast or whatever,
the year before, Kevin Ryant was better. This year Kevin
Ryant was better. He hit the essentially see series clinching
shot in Game three in the same spot in Cleveland

(35:36):
both times. And you know, at some point he's like, hey, look,
you know, like Lebron went through one year of this
when he went to Miami, but not two years of this.
And Katie hasn't been able to climb out of the
Why am I wearing the black hat? Why don't I
get the respect that deserves? So I do I actually
understand a lot of his emotions to it. I think

(35:56):
he goes above and beyond obviously with the with the
Twitter burner, a ounce and and the overreaction to reporters stories. Um,
but I I do actually marvel at the fact that
with all that nonsense going on, he's still a walking bucket.
He's just he's still a walking bucket, which doesn't exist
in most every other arena in the NBA Twitter at

(36:19):
how about a Fresca Doug At gottlieb Show, Jason Smith,
Doug gottlieb In for Dan and the Dan Nets Today.
We'll have more NBA coming up in about twenty minutes.
But coming up next, a big debut this weekend in football.
But was it really a big debut? Yes it was,
But was it really a big debut? Yes it was,

(36:39):
But was it really a big debut? We'll see Fox
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implosion of an NBA team at the latest on that

(37:00):
coming up in a few minutes. One of their players says, Hey,
we need toughness, we need maturity, we need all of it.
We don't have it right now. But this weekend will
forever be known as the weekend of the debut of
the Alliance of American Football. Doug Gottlieb, who signed up
to do a f fantasy at the last minute, is
now in four different leagues. I don't know how you

(37:22):
did week one. Hopefully you did, okay, And uh, I
know you're writing a bit for Fox. It's a keeper league,
dynasty league. I thought it was. You were doing a
few of them, aren't you. Yes, all right, you had
hackenburg number one, I did. Yeah, you gotta take him.
But I also I get I get credit for curse
words when when Hackenburgers is miked up, that's a big thing.
That's a that's a big bonus to having uh Hackenburgers

(37:44):
my quarterback. You know, it also is a big bonus.
No points, that's that's also a bonuses. Did not lead
his team to a point? Right, But but we have
this weird league where if you're the worst quarterback, you're
actually the best quarterback. That's why. Oh so it's the
fewest points. Oh he's got to be your number one
pick every year that us he was. That's why. It's
a keeper that is all. Yeah, he's gotta be And
I got points for curse words, and and there's got

(38:05):
to be people in your league are upset with you go.
You know, it's an unfair advantage. You have to just
keep hackenburg every single year. Can I ask you an
honest question? Okay, everyone, every sports radio hack like us
is reacting to the whe they get a two point
oh nationally on Saturday night the two nine, Right, did
you actually watch? Yes, Like this is one of those
things where you're like, I have I don't know anybody

(38:28):
who watched. I I understand that people did, in fact watch,
and the number did somehow surpass that of the NBA
on ABC that night, right Oklahoma City in Houston, UM,
which was honestly a great game, I mean really entertaining game, game,
very entertaining game, a lot of shots, a lot of shots,

(38:49):
a lot of points, and I'm supposed to think this
shakes up the foundation of spring sports, although I balanced
it out with the fact that the XFL did like
an eight or an nine. UM. When the XFL launched.
This is you know, I don't know, fifteen years ago whatever,
However many years ago it was. I really did XFL
Fantasy by the way I did, and I won my league.

(39:10):
You are I had Tommy Maddox is my quarterback. I
was got a good team, Tommy MANI touched Tommy Maddox Tommy,
oh yeah, I was. Tommy Maddox is the quarterback of
my sister was cheerier at U c l A like
Tommy Gunn. Could could fire it. I could sling it anyway.
So but I don't know anybody who watched this thing.
I don't. I know people watch clips and people and

(39:32):
I and I've seen the I've seen the replay of
the replay monitor right. They have the Eye in the
Sky the Sky Sky Official, which is great, and there
are things that are gonna be taken from this and
used in real football, which is awesome. But again, just
like the XFL, let me reiterate, I don't know anybody
who actually watched the every This is one of those
things like did you watch it, Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

(39:54):
yeah watch it? Really no. I saw some highlights on Twitter,
and I saw it on I shot on the highlight shows. Yeah,
you could get the highlights. You could get the highlights.
That's not a problem. I can't even find the box scores.
That's I couldn't even find the box score. I'm like, okay,
I want to see how some guys did couldn't even
find him. I'm like, where are they now? They have
the recaps? Look, and CBS is all in on this, obviously,

(40:16):
their broadcast the games. It's all over the website. They're
treating it like it's a big deal. They're making a
big push there. You know, the game is done very well.
You have a lot of respected people who are announcing
the games. You know, you have players that you've heard
of that are playing in the games. I get it,
but I mean I can't even find box scores of this.
I mean really, I'm like, okay, where where where? They're
not even on CBS Sports dot com. I'm trying to

(40:37):
find the the box scoress. I can't even get them
out there. We really can't get me stats kicking stats
with this, I think I can actually can you do
you have your old CBS Sports app? Yeah? Is that?
Do you still pay for it or no? No, it's
it's a free deal because they make you pay for
fantasy at CBS. They do. Oh see, that's the last one,
the last bastion of of paying for fantasy on the internet.

(40:58):
Can you name can you name any of the mascots
for any of these teams? Yes, wait, Orlando is the Apollos? Yes,
did you see they had the guy who flew Apollo
seven bring out the football. How do you not have
Apollo Creed bring out the football? He probably wasn't available.
Apollo create died. That's why Carl Weather, I know, Carl Weather,
he's not available, is not available, but totally ruin it

(41:22):
for people who haven't who don't realize that Rocky is
not real life, right, think of all the Italians out there, like, wait,
rock was not really Wait what Apollo is alive? You
could still have Apollo come down, just like in Rocky
four they play I'm a you know, they play uh
living in America and he comes down, he's got the
thing on, he delivers the coin to midfield with the
with the boxing gloves on. You could have had that. Really,

(41:43):
he's not available, Apollo Crean is not unless they got
him for a future game. And that's that's what it's
gonna be. Because the Apollos and the guy who flew
Apollo seven comes out and he brings the football out,
which is also strange because they have no kickoff, no
no kickoff, no no kickoff, and we just start thinking
it's like a scrimmage in high school when no KICKO.
We didn't get a chance to work on special teams
this week, so we're just gonna just gonna start start

(42:05):
to play right here. Uh So, and then people like well,
and then and then you get the well nobody misses
kickoffs because nobody's watching this thing. Sorry, like this well
two point nine niner watch it? Like all right, Like
call me in week five, let me know the numbers
in week five? Do I do? I think CBS man

(42:26):
it look pretty Yes, that's what CBS does. They spend
a ton of money in their production. They have good
people that have good announcers, and I think there's a
lot of things at work. It's gonna be a massive
money loser, massive money loser, and the quarterbacks are reputable.
It's not terrible football. There is a need, there's a
there's a there's a need to have some sort of
minor league system outside of college football. There's there's a

(42:48):
need for it, uh in order to uh, in order
to kind of fill the coffers of the NFL in
terms of players, Like, you're just running out of players here.
There's fewer players playing youth football, playing high school for ball.
You know, hurt college football. You need to have in
minor league system. But there's a reason that the D
League or the G League whatever it's called now is
not on network TV. It's not because the talent isn't good.

(43:11):
It's because noboe wants to watch it. And I don't
think enough people will want to watch this thing. You're
all you just said the quarterback play is good after
we mentioned Hackenburg, like we talked about, well, it's better,
more reputable than what they had in the XFL going back,
and it's good having names. I mean, it's good having
names of people that you remember who, oh, Trent Richardson played.

(43:31):
If they want to make it good, they really want
people to watch. Put Kaepernick back there. WHOA, that's an idea?
Signed Tebow la tibo play quarterback? I mean, look Tebow said,
Tebow wants to be a baseball player. Kaepernick wants to
be a quarterback. Why is he not playing in one
of these in this league? Twitter at how about a
Fresk I got Lee back Gottlieb show value question Like, hey, dude,

(43:52):
if you still want to play football, play football. We
get into that. We got more. Don't worry, we have more.
A f talk and a special quiz coming up next
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(45:40):
do you want? My show is not as good as yours.
That's popular as my hair doesn't look as good as
your twice my age. Your hair is better. It's not fair.
You are pathetic. Yes, just go away. Today Doug is
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(46:00):
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(46:20):
you know, just just to set the record straight, I
think you are good for college basket, Well, thank you.
I think you are like I love Dan and Dana
has got to sit chance see them at the Stroup Bowl.
Obviously they're coming back from Pebble Beach where Dan got
a chance to play and broadcast, and we still don't
have a conclusion to that tournament. No, it got really
dark at three o'clock in the afternoon. It's very, very

(46:42):
very dark. That was That was odd. Was there was hell,
There was all kinds of crazy stuff happening. It was
the conditions were I was just texting with Scott Stallings,
who uh is at least tied for second second as
of right now. He's in he's in the clubhouse waiting
for others to finish, and he was like, you got
embraced the condition, that's part of playing up there. But
it was just he said, wild, wild stuff. So he's

(47:03):
okay because this is this is a big deal. Now.
If you know, if Casey he could win nextra hundred
and fifty two grand, if Casey falters these last couple
of holes and here has no control, he's there going Newton, Newton.
It's like gambling without actually gambling. You're watching going off.
You know, I never want to root for a guy
to play poorly and golf, and I get that part
of it. Still, it's a hundred and fifty grand fed

(47:24):
X points. There's a lot of stuff at steak? Can
I help you? Can? I ask you just a question? Real? Quick?
Is loading? Dump button? Ready? No? No? No, no, no good.
I just happened to be on the Twitter machine. I
saw this from Newsweek. Fox News host Pete Headset says
he has not washed his hands in ten years because
germs are not a real thing. Germs are not real.

(47:46):
Germs are not real. Germs are not real. Wow. My
two thousand nineteen resolution is to say things on air
I say off air. I don't think I've washed my
hands for ten years. Really, I don't really wash my hands.
Should I tweet at jose Can Saco? He'll be the
guy to tell if I inoculate myself. Germs are not
a real thing. I can't see them, therefore they're not real. Okay,

(48:08):
all right, can't see ghosts and they're real. Are No.
But I understand the philosophy of I don't know. I
don't wash my hands. Anybody with kids understands that. When
I have kids, boy, I notice I'm getting sick more.
And if you start washing your hands, you don't get
sick as much. I mean, that's really it's really that simple.
I noticed, like I never get the amount of stupidity

(48:30):
wrapped around in the statement that I cannot see it,
therefore it does not exist. I cannot see it, therefore
it does not exist. Nuclear power power in general, it
doesn't exist. I guess unless you can see unless it's sparks, right,
I cannot see it, Therefore it doesn't exist. The Alliance
American you can see thee it were those real highlights

(48:52):
or were they just people that got together to show highlights.
It was not a real game. But it's like the
moon Landing that they shoot in the back lot of
Universal Studio. The the just that that there's an actual
human being that speaks to other human beings on the
in the It's we. When you were a kid, did
your parents ever called the idiot Box? Oh yeah, yeah,
my grandfather. That the idiot. That guy on the idiot

(49:14):
box that keeps yelling at me, right, that guy Pete
Headset is officially the the keynote speaker at the Idiot
Box convention. Like he's he's in a position. Now, look,
he works for a play. He works at If you're
a news organization, sometimes those guys just read prompter some
kind of guys, a guy's right prompter. I don't know
which of the two it is, but he is. People

(49:36):
believe that things on TV are real, and that someone says,
I can't see germs, so they must not exist, and
other people are forced to listen to him. That's among
the five dumbest things ever uttered by human being in
two thousand nineteen. And there have been some really dumb
things uttered already in this very early year. Uh, the

(49:58):
Knicks winning a game. Can't see it doesn't happen many things,
these things. But you can see the Knicks win a game.
People pay money to see the Nicks. It's tough, not
in a long time. No, But they're trying to not
win games, right exactly when they're trying successfully, But you're
still not seeing it. So you have seen it, not
for a while that you forget it. Adams's exist, jeans

(50:19):
don't exist, blood cells can't see him. None of those things.
None of those things exist, by the way, Uh, flat chillings,
I guess did he say he didn't say anything that smells?
Can't see it though you can't see it, can't see
it doesn't exist, right, No, because nothing makes you smell. No,
curveballs don't exist. No curveball. You can see the curveballs,
but people can't do it. You can see the book.

(50:41):
Are you seeing the ball curver optical illusion? Yes, may
not be seeing it. That's God help me, Like I
don't wash my hand, Like I'm I'm with you on kids.
Though my son we lost in a basketball in the
playoffs yesterday and weird devastated. But I was like, my
one of my proudest moments is we get to we
go like, hey, let's all get together. I'll go to

(51:02):
pizza and we take them out of pizza and he
comes in. I was like, hey dude, and he was.
I didn't actually want to ask him about washing his hands, like, oh,
I forgot to go wash bands. Just because you talk
about kids being a Peatriot dish, there's no greater Petrie
dish in sports than the basketball because it touches all
of the kids, the officials, and the floor which is
covered in dirt. Right, And I am not a germophobe

(51:25):
as some of my friends in media are, Like I
have friends um Dave Revson and Andy Kat's longtime friends
covering college basketball. Uh they actually for years Andy was
Andy would he change the channel in his hotel room
with a cloth over the channel change. It was like, Andy,
why don't you And I was like sarcastic, I was,

(51:46):
but there's a little bit of truth in sarcasm, Like
why don't you just bring a zip block bag, put
the remote in the zip block bag, and then you
can change channels while you could actually see what you're pressing.
And he's like, that's a great idea. And you know what,
and he cast does now he travels with zip black bags.
This actually happens. But the point is, I am not
have to watch TV either. I am not a germophobe

(52:09):
to that level of germophobia. I'm just respectful of germs, right.
It's it's a lot like it's a lot like heights,
Like I'm not scared of heights, but I respect the
fact that you can die if you fall from a
certain height. Therefore, I will not put myself in position
to die from five falling and putting myself in harm's way.
And there's a difference there, at least for me, there's
a mental difference. I'm not a germophobe. I understand that.

(52:32):
A lot of times I don't get a flu shot
just because I realized, you know what, my immune system
is strong enough for if I do get the flu,
that it's maybe a good thing that I can fight
it off, that I do have a I lived, you know,
and traveled in and out of New York, and I
did go to the subway, and I tried to wash
my hands every day when I got home. But I understood,
I'm still absorbing a lot of the germs of of

(52:53):
the city that never sleeps. That said, I'm not I'm
not so obtuse that I would actually say against see it.
So don't believe it. No New York City subways clean,
no germs. No germs in New York City, none, absolutely
not none, No, no germs. Okay, I'm sorry. Where we're
the Boston Celtics, Boston Celtics. Boston Celtics don't exist, Boston Celtics. Yeah.

(53:15):
Still with the whole thing with the washing of the hands.
Jason Smith Doug Gottlieb in for Dan Patrick today and uh,
that's certainly a big headline that I know will circle
back to. But uh, we talked to Rick Puker last
hour on the show. We got into lebron a bit.
We talked about Katie which love more on him coming
up in a few minutes. But the implosion of the
Boston Celtics could be here. A couple of incredibly difficult losses.

(53:38):
They lose to the Lakers, they blow a huge lead,
They lose Kyrie Irving uh to a knee injury against
the Clippers. He is day to day right now, and
Marcus Morris adding injury and acting insult to injury said
this that the team needs to get tougher. Look at
all these other teams and guys are jumping unaccorded. The

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guys have being some help each other, going deep finished guy,
you know what Jane had before each other? And I
live in this team. I don't see that. We don't
have no attitude, We had no toughness. Where you having fun?
You know it's gonna be a long season. No attitude,
no toughness, long season. No one's washing their hands. Things
are very difficult right now in Boston. Level of one

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to ten, with ten being this thing is ready to
implode and it's going to be awful, or one being hey,
this is very minor and things are gonna get better soon.
Because the Celtics are talented. They have a lot of
good players. Where are you on on the implosion factor
about a six six? Uh? But but there's there's a

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bunch of reasons for volatility, and then there's there's other
reasons for me to think it'll all work out in
the end. Which ones you want me to get to first?
Whichever one you'd rather go? I would say the volatility
can course. First, you start with the fact with the
idea that they they believe they were good last year
with out Kyrie Irving and without Gordon Hayward. They we

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we quickly forget they very could easily lost the first
series to Milwaukee Bucks. And had they done that, maybe
there would have been a different vibe in that locker room.
Um so, I think it affects them, you know, for
Kyrie trying to prove himself and trying to become trying
to be an alpha in that locker room. You know,

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you've got the Terry Rogiers, who's still really the fourth guard, right,
Like that's what he is, the fourth guarden the roster
or the third guarden the roster, depending on how you
look at Jalen Brown with the Knight, he's a guard
or not. And and he thinks, look I took us
to the Eastern Conference finals. Why do you need Kyrie?
Why does he get to take all these shots? And
I don't. And then the Gordon Hayward who has not

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been nearly what he was before injury, and you know
there's that eleph in the room of man that's a
really bad contract. Is he ever going to get better?
How long is it gonna take him to get back there? Um?
And then you have Brad Stevens, who, look, I think
Seevens a great coach, he's a friend, and he's an
incredible guy. I think he completely gets it, and I

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think usually he understands the psychology of people well, but
this isn't. This isn't what he's ever dealt with, and
I'm interested to see how he deals with it. When
he first took over the Celtics, all those guys were
just trying to fight to stay in the league. Right,
He got guys that were tough guys to kind of
buy it. Isaiah Thomas is a guy not not really
beloved by anyone who coached him previously, and he got

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the most out of him. But again, Isaiah Thomas had
something to prove, whereas now you have kind of the
mixture of some older Al Horford professionals and younger guys
trying to prove themselves, and guys that have you know,
Marcus Smart, which seo they probably overpaid to keep, and
even though they didn't have to overpay to keep him,
like you have kind of a volatile mixture of personalities
and ridiculous expectations, and everyone else in that at the

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top of the East making big moves, and the Celtics
standing pat although tinkering with the idea of, hey, you know,
we might be Anthony interested in in Anthony Davis at
the end of the season, which creates even more volatility
in the locker room. Like I think there's a there's
a little bit of a powder kig there. On the
other hand, there is the All Star break, which I
think allows people to go to there, get time away, right,

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get space. I do think they have a bunch of
they have a lot of talent. I do think grad
Brad is great with people, and I still I think
one of the reasons that their roster is going to
stay as it is is because I think they think
we're actually good if we play well. Like lost in
the Clipper collapse was they were up twenty three till
Kyrie got hurt. You know Kyrie, and now you're depending

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on Kyrie did not get hurt, which is a hard
thing to depend on because he's been hurt so often
as the NBA career. But I think it's an interesting
mixture there of of of hope, because of Brad, because
of the talent, because of Danny, because of how well
they did last year without their two best players. On
the other hand, it's it's reasonable think that that's it's
a powder kig there, mixture of old and young, expectation,

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ego contracts, that of wanted, and the thought that if
it doesn't work out, half these guys are gonna be
gone anyway. Well, I look at it from the perspective
of Kyrie, because the guys we've talked about the most
of the season, obviously, as far as their relationship and
what they're doing in their future and everything, have been
Katie and Lebron. Right. We'll have more on Katie coming
up in a few minutes. Do you have Kevin Durant,
who is playing phenomenal on the court, but still off

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the court, is upset by everything that's said about him.
But as you said, earlier, the Warriors have kind of
rallied around him a bit and had his back. You
have the Lebron situation in which you're wondering what's going
to happen, the disengagement level that he's had from the franchise,
and now you have Kyrie Irving, who could be in
kind of the same type of situation that Kevin Durant
Isn't you know? He says, I'm gonna stay in Boston,

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very big. If you'll have me, I'll stay. This is wonderful.
Everybody collapse at a big fan event and now it's
all But now he's linked to Lebron. Hey, I always
thought it was hard. I didn't think it was as
hard to lead people, and it's you know, it's difficult,
which is a way for the Celtics go, WHOA, We're
difficult to lead now. And then the last thing you
had from him publicly on his future was asked me
July one, I don't know anything. So how much of

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that plays into it? Because I feel like, you know,
it's it's Kyrie's team obviously, and now if there's a disconnect,
he could solve it. I mean not by saying I'm
gonna sign, but he could solve it by making things
a little bit easier, a little bit smoother as things.
Obviously staying healthy helps as well. But I mean it's
kind of like a mini k D situation. Obviously the
Celtics not handling that as well as the Warriors handling

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with govern Durant. Yeah, and I and I think that's
one of the reasons that he probably reached out and
talked to Lebron James. He don't want to play with
Lebron James gay like he I would. I would be stunned,
stunned if you want to play with and and the
reason is what's happened the last couple of weeks, which
is it's not playing with Lebron James like it's that
it's not crazy fun, but you generally are going to win,

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and as Kyrie knows, you get to take the last
shot because Lebron doesn't really care. He's not that's not
his thing. He'd rather pass for the last shot. It's
the all the other stuff. Lebron picks, the coach, Lebron picks,
the players. Lebron, it's the style, like this is what
we do, and that you know, you're just not into that.
On the other hand, there is a healthy respect for
the fact that, like, I don't know if I want

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all this attention. I don't know if I want to.
You know, my emotions are the emotions of a team.
But you're right, you are who in basketball, you are,
who your best player is. And if your best player
struggles with leadership, if your best player struggles with sometimes
being selfish, sometimes playing to win, sometimes playing defense, sometimes
not your breast player struggles are being healthy, that's your
team is. And that's the probab probably biggest problem with

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now every time I hear music today, I'm gonna think
about the Grammys because last night did you watch any
of the Grammys last night? Did you get any of it?
I watched a little bit. I mean we turned it
on and j Low was singing Motown. I was like, click, Yeah,
that was a that was an odd It was an
odd choice. It was a very odd choice. But that's
the Grammys. They make odd choices like that. You you
informed me. I had no idea about the difference in

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the awards shows like I. I just always think you
turn them on. I just thought the idea. So the
Grammys are what, like, what what is the what is
the premise? Who makes these who gives these awards? These
are awards giving out by the Recording Academy, and it's
for best Album, best Song, best Lyrics, Best Newcomer, best
Best New Artist. Is always the big one. That that's

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the big one. Here's a question, why not just have
those people perform those songs that are deemed to be
were the by the Academy well seeing, and there in
lies the game because last night you saw not only
because you're thinking about music, that every big person who won,
they use music to play them off in the middle
of their acceptance speech. And the last one, the big

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one at the end, best It's best album, best Casey
Musgraves wins, played her off at the end, last last award,
at the end, played her off with music, play her
one very, very big night. She gets played off in
the middle of her peep. Now, granted, a lot of
these speeches are the same. You would figure people who
are you know, are used to performing in front of crowds,
don't have to sit there for forty five seconds ago.

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Oh my god, I don't know what to say. Oh
my god, I know what to say. Oh my god.
Well the possibility, Thank you Cleveland, I love you, we
love you. But you know it's almost on you. I
love you. It's forty five seconds if I don't know
what to say, and then it's rambling about, oh, follow
your dreams and you could be on stage, and then
they play you off. I understand that. I don't know
why people aren't better at that. But the whole thing

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is is that, wait, what you're playing me off, my
being played off right now shows let's talk about sports.
Don't listen listen Nick fans, don't don't give up on
your dreams. Just get to the off season chance of
getting that number one pick. Just just save it. It said,
get that pick. Wow, that's good work in radio radio.

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We'll do that when we have guest son. We don't
that that they've they've gone too long when they give
and I love Rick Buker. When they give a Buker
length answer, Wow, you start playing them off. Yeah, I'm sorry,
you're no. They you don't have to say it. They
like figure it out. They just kind of figured it
out on their own, and they just make the music
get louder towards the end and then eventually just cut
you right off. I think that that's amazing. I just
I just don't know that the groundbreaking in radio. I know.

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I guess that's what the Grammys have always done. I
can't tell you that. I've watched too. I just think
they're asking the wrong people right whoever is telling them.
I want to hear the Motown hits, like sorry, I
know Tom Petty died. I'm sad Tom Petty died by
the way Tom Petty's greatest hits to come down. When
I got a chance to call um Utah came from

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seventeen down five and a half minutes to go to
beat U. C l a P. Called that game Saturday Afternoon,
coming in out of breaks. We're playing Tom Petty because
apparently like they paid for the rights to play Tom
Petty because his greatest hits are coming Like, that's great,
you know, it's really good about Tom Petty when Tom
Petty plays Tom Petty, Like, I don't want to hear.
I can't have that anymore, though I understand, but I

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just that's I'm sorry that And then part of that,
you know, you can do the hologram thing. You hologram
Tom Petty. I don't. I don't know, it's it's kind
of weird. Um My. My point is, I just don't
know who they're asking. That goes, you know what I
really want to hear j Lo play Motown? No they
this is this is how crazy it was. And and honestly,
Travis Scott playing Travis Scott was just as bad as

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JL doing Motown. My son waited an hour. He's like, Dad,
Travis Scott's coming on and then this is true story.
He got done rapping and he did us um what
he called when he dive in of the fans. We
do the we do a stage diving and he's like,
how cool would that be to be carrying one of
the greatest, the greatest rapper of all time? And I go,

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it would be cool, Hayes if that was him. He's like,
what do you mean? I go, Travis Scott's not one
of the fifty best rappers alive and rapping today. He's like,
he's not. Somebody's married to a Kardashian. No. I was like,
I was like, was was that sound good? He's like,
not really, He's like, I like sicko mode. That's so
we had a great discussion on rappers, like he's not

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in the not in the conversation. Then the conversation of
top fifty right now? No that I I agree. Look,
and there's some people that you see on the show
and they're making debuts and you're like, I, I don't know,
I don't know who that is. Yeah, I really don't know,
And it could be it could be Raptors Country Act
that made his debut. I don't know who that Yeah, yeah,
I didn't know which one was Dan and which one

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they should have. They should have a label or being funded.
I'm Dan and I'm Shay and we are Dan and
Shade taste tequila. So, oh yeah, the tequila song. This
is the new one when I taste tequila. Yeah, yeah,
you know the other stuf the tequila song though tequila. Oh,

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I don't know you mean what you mean? Pe is
big Avenge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the tequila song. Yes, that's
the real tequila song. There's been many a tequila song.
But the fact that Ariana Grande, who's the biggest pop
star in the world right now, didn't perform because ostensibly
they wouldn't allow her to perform seven Rings, which is
the number one song in the country right in her
to do. My daughter had me download it last night.

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We were doing a little workout in the garage. She's like,
this song rocks. Yeah, that's dumb. Wouldn't let her do it?
Like a good frontra Ariana Grande, Like I came here
to play my music. That's what my music is being sold. Like.
I don't want to play somebody else's song. I want
to go see a cover band. I go down to
the local bar, and watch a cover I don't want
to see cover band. I want to see creative artists

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sing their music every time. As long as they sing,
they cannot. Yeah, I don't want to see them lips second. Yeah. Well,
and everybody's saying, yeah, you have to like that's that's
what I'm saying about the Grammys. I don't want to
see them. It's it's one of the deals with like
sometimes we do this at All Star games. I don't
want to see basketball players at All Star weekend play

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baseball or play football like that is that what they do?
Just have them do what they do. Every time I
see a sports like I see a commissioner do something
or not acting, I go, oh my god, this is
just this. I can't believe they're not doing anything, whether
Adam Silver who does nothing, or Rob Manfred who unless
it's Pace the play, he won't pick up his phone.
I go, at least it's not you know, the recording
artist or the Oscars, because you're gonna have another horrible Oscars.

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It's gonna be hostless. With movies that nobody has seen.
I can talk about ratings that's gonna be abysmal. I've
heard Adam Silver does nothing except champion whatever the players do, know,
whatever the players want. He was like, Oh, that's a great,
great idea Aboutely And then but Manfred, I've I've heard
the opposite of Manfred is a behind the scenes, uh

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hard heart negotiator, very invested in the future of the sport.
I don't know if that means that the d H
is coming in the National League. I would guess that
it is. Um it didn't happen this year, but it
probably will in the very near future. But at least
they're trying some stuff. And I and I think that
I think the baseball thing is fascinating. I just do.
I didn't. I don't think baseball is fascinating. Well, you're

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an Angels fan. It's been a long time. That's not
what I mean. I just mean, thank you for playing
that out, Mr Jets fans, Mr Mets fan like, I
don't understand Mets fans like you guys are just in
the playoffs two consecutive years in the World Series and
you act like the the end is new year. No,
you're not. All Mets fans are like, we are, stink,
what are we doing? That's just being no. But I

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I see it for reality, right, people are but but um,
but I think that that if baseball finds religion or
a baseball has a I don't know, restructuring of contracts,
but hey, what do they call it in real estate
or what do they call it? A market correction? They

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call it in right sizing, not downsizing or right sizing correction, Like, look,
this is out of control, and the ten year contracts
are stupid. Eight year contracts are dumb, Like, like, give
me an eight year contract. I like to think I
would come to work with the same energy. It doesn't
work for anybody. Like I know one guy in this

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business that has ay, had got an eight year contract
and he's in the last couple of years of it,
and it's one of those things which he's like, man,
it's just too this is too long, too long to
lock into that type of relationship. It's hard enough to
be married for that long, let alone be married to
your job for that long. But the market correction, which
appears to have started last year with veteran players and

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may continue on with Manchado and Bryce Harper, two young
players in their prime, Johnny Hustle himself, Um, I think
it's fascinating I really do. I think it's way more
interesting than the NBA stuff, which is, you know, everybody
just throwing money at guys, even though a lot of
these contracts haven't haven't worked. You know, like, we don't

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care about the fact that you're you're you're if you're
a small market team, you're damned, you do you're damn
You have to offer Anthony Davis two forty million dollars,
yet he can get close to that elsewhere, and he's
made so much money he can actually turn that down.
Any of you signed Anthony Davis your two hundred forty
million dollars, it means you're probably not going to make
any money on your team unless you sell it what

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you don't want to do. And it's really hard to
put a team around Anthony Davis, you know what I'm saying,
Like a hard that's a hard decision. Um. Whereas I
think the baseball thing is it's absolutely fascinating. Here are
two really talented players, both not yet age wise in
their prime, and they may have priced themselves and priced
themselves out of a market and they're gonna end up

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but they're still gonna end up killing it in terms
of what they make, but compared to what people thought
they would make. Like people legitimately thought Bryce Harper would
sign for four hundred four hundre million dollars just because
Scott Morris says it doesn't mean it's gonna happen, but
that's what people believe. And then you're like, okay, well,
pool Holes, who was you know, coming out at the
end of his prime signed for three hundred million dollars,
Like yeah, this is ten years later or eight years

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later or something. Why wouldn't Bryce Harper? Well because baseball
figured out like, well, this is a bad idea, like
both of Alex Rodriguez's big contracts for bad ideas. Um So,
I think it's a fascinating thing to watch, I really do.
I think that baseball needs to borrow a little bit
from the NBA. Jason Smith Doug Gottlieben for Dan and
Dan has today Fox Sports Radio. But when the first

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team's names came out about Machado and Harper, because what
you hear was these are going to be long term
deals seven eight years, three d million plus, the only
teams you saw that were in were the Phillies and
then a little bit of the White Sox. The Padres
and Scott Boris Manny Machado's representations are going, Wow, we don't,
we don't, we don't want this. We don't want to
go to any of these teams. Even the Nationals who

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came with tenant three hundred million. They went back to
talk to them a little bit. That's where he would
go if he wanted to go there. But they don't
like any of these offers. The money was coming in,
it wasn't what they expected it to be, wasn't for
the lengths. Because this is not collusion. This is just
teams going, we're not gonna get in for seven eight
years for a guy because it's not worth it, because
it's all front loaded. When it comes to the success,
you're gonna get the backload is terrible. The last couple

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of years of Albert Pools's deal is going to be awful.
The last couple of years of a Rod's deal was awful.
Any picture you give seven eight years to the last
four years could be terrible for it. So now it's
now what they've done is when this happened, I said,
I remember saying on my show, now you're gonna not
hear anything, and then you're gonna start hearing in a
week or so other names of bigger market teams who
are going to be involved because they're gonna have to

(01:12:40):
try to save face, and Scott Boris is going to
try to play the Okay, what we're gonna do now
is get one or two years with a big market
team for about that money, because I think many teams
would go, oh, two years and sixty million will do
that for Bryce Harper two years in fifty some ud
million from Manny Machado. Okay, but we want to be
able to move on if it doesn't work out. And
that's exactly what's going on right now. You're hearing the

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Giants for a shorter amount of time with Bryce Harper.
There's a lot of momentum towards that. Right now. Baseball
would be better and be better for everybody if the
elite players took the attitude of Lebron and Kevin Durant
and guys who were signing for a short period of
time for a lot of money because the relevance and
the interest level and what these guys are gonna do next, Look,

(01:13:23):
the interest level, what Kevin Durant is gonna do next
is better than what the Warriors do on the court.
The drama behind Kadi and Lebronn and everything are better
than the games. I mean this drop. This is the
stuff we talked about more than Look, we talked about
Katie and lebron a lot this morning, and the only
reference you've made to the game was, Hey, Katie double
dribbled the end of the game last night. But this
is all right, and he had thirty nine. That's it.

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That's That's four seconds of an entire show of the drama.
Baseball needs to push these personalities more. That would be
great for the game. If Bryce Harper would sign for
a year at the Yankees and is he gonna stay?
Can they win? What's this gonna be? Suddenly the interest
level is through the roof and is he gonna resign?
Is he gonna go someplace else? Same thing with Manny Machado.
If the best players would do this, that would be

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so huge for Major League Baseball. But but what's what's
stopping them from doing that? The same thing that created
these monster contracts doesn't want that to happen because everyone
else in sports, like man, we want one. Baseball has
long term security, and the union would would freak if
that happened, would freak. They're like, look, we fought for

(01:14:26):
these long term, guaranteed contracts that that that are the
envy of every other professional sport. Like like take take
Bryce Harper two years ago, right, like Bryce Harper. The
hard part about Bryce Harper is not yet in his prime,
but so far it's been wildly it's been a wild ride, right,

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it's been. He's got a lot of talent. He can
be the best player in the sport. I just want
I don't I don't see it. I think the whole
thing is dumb. I think you don't win that way.
And people think, well, you sell tickets and you you
sell advertising on your on your regional sports network, Like, no,
you don't, you sell regional you sell if you win.
It's better off to get three players for the price
of one player, my my estimation, that's what the smart

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teams have shown themselves to be able to do. But uh,
but if you're Bryce Harper, you're sitting there going like, hey,
it's baseball, what if I just have one of those years,
will have a terrible year? And the Union has sat there,
has has fought and been able to create a system
where everybody's getting more for a longer period of time
guaranteed money than anybody else. And oh yeah, by the way,

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I remember also as much as we laud baseball, baseball
is the best, No, it's not. Those guys don't get
paid at all for the first five years you know
of being a major league player, let alone toiling and
obscurity of being a minor league player. I remember. This
is the This is my argument with for Kyler Murray
Will it said locked up since you go to the NFL,
because when you if you get draft in the first round,

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especially in the NFL, that's four years guaranteed, and you're
in the NFL, and if your first round draft pick
you're going to play in your first year. Don't believe me,
even Lamar Jackson played the year right. If you go
to major league baseball, you sign a contract, you get
some money up front, and then you're in the minor
leagues until unless your contract says and your clock as
a major league in terms of getting paid in year
four or five on arbitration, that doesn't start into you

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actually have a certain number of at bats in the
major leagues, So you could go he Aaron Judge six
d six hundred thousand dollars last year. He's been a
professional baseball player for five years, six hundred, six hundred
thousand dollars plus some incentives that thoughts all he made.
So as much as we can sit here and go like, yes,
that's what these guys should do, the union doesn't want

(01:16:35):
to do it. The reality of it is they haven't
unlike other professional supports, they haven't been paid. And you
can have a terrible, terrible year, and you have one
of those bad years, you don't want to become a
new contract here. Instead cash in when when you're hot.
And that's why they've always pushed for longer term. Dear no,
and that I understand. But sometimes if you realize, okay,
the marketplace changes and you can have these beliefs for

(01:16:56):
a long time. And this is what we fought for.
This is here. But now sometimes things come up in
twenty nineteen that didn't come up in but here we are.
We have to we have to deal with it now.
Everybody thought, oh, the next big thing, big wave is
gonna be everybody's gonna have computers on their TVs, right,
that's gonna be the next big thing? Was that that
was a whole thing was gonna see inten. You remember
two thousand ten, it was in ten years, everybody's gonna

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be having their computers on their TVs, and that's and
instead it was what No, Now we're all on our
phones and it's your phone, phone, phone, it's a small
screen everywhere else. It's like, okay, you can still do
that great stuff with TVs, but it's not as big
a deal as the phone. So you have to change.
You know, if you're pushing stuff television wise and computer wise, okay,
I'm not gonna market for that. I gotta market towards
something different. You can push towards something, but when the

(01:17:37):
marketplace changes, you have to correct. And if this is
the way things correct, if no one's giving it, you
can't make people give out seven year deals in Major
League Baseball. All you can do is make sure they
get their fair market values. So if teams can say, listen,
here's what happened. If you want to, if the MLB
p A wants to call, hey, Giants, why didn't you
sign Bryce Harper. We're investigating. He's unsigned. He should be
getting they could say, okay, well he's only knocked in

(01:17:57):
a hundred runs once he's hit under two fifty two
of the last three years. You could say that, or
you could just say we offered them two years and
sixty million, and he said, no, So what do you want?
But really, what are the teams doing wrong? We didn't
want to offer something I'm not I'm not saying the
teams are wrong. You asked why more guys don't do it?
And the point you're you're kind of making my point

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for me, which is the market the guy's got after
If you start doing this, things will change, and things
will You will get money. Everybody will get money. Know
they won't for short amounts of time, ye know, Oh no,
they won't. What they'll end up we end up doing
is if Bryce Harper is only worth a two year deal,
so well, all of these other guys that have are
they're already getting nickel and dime. They'll get nickel and

(01:18:39):
dimes even more. That's not the way the market works.
You end up shrinking the market for people. Look, the
baseball has already changed with the expansion of bullpens, right,
that's the big thing that people are spending money on
their bullpens and and and spreading it out because you
can have a bullpen day instead of having starting pitchers
and just throw a bunch of money in your bullpen.
And then also in terms of everyday players, it's more

(01:19:02):
platoon based that that works against uh, superstar sluggers are
are are are going the way they're not yet they're
they're going the way of running backs in the NFL,
where hey, you're better off, you're smarter getting two guys
do one person's job at half the cost, right or
at most half the cost. That's what we're seeing in
the National Football League. And that's the hell. Todd Gurley

(01:19:25):
basically was usurved by C. J. Anderson who was on
his couch for for a couple of weeks. And I
just Major League Baseball has been has been. The MLB
p A has been one of those Hey, we're not
taking less for fewer we're not taking fewer years. We're
not doing that. We're not giving back years and giving
back money because once we do, it becomes a trickle
down effect. And all right now the rank and file

(01:19:48):
guys are getting shorter term deals with less money, with
less money. I know what you're saying, it's smart business.
It should be smart business to get you on the
free agent market all all around. But again you're you're
a meeting that the market has changed, and it could
change even more in the next two years and could
change for the worst. And that's why guys don't want

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and still not letting the Anthony Davis lack of a
trade go as they continue to talk about it. But
this weekend was the debut of the Alliance of American Football.
Did pretty good ratings because you know it's it's on CBS.
Two point nine million people apparently watch some of the
action on Saturday. But did anybody really watch? If you haven't,

(01:21:14):
that's okay, because I'm going to test the a F
knowledge of Doug Gottlie menu with the first ever Alliance
of American Football quiz. Did this happen this weekend in
the a F Are you ready? Yeah? All right? You've
never had a quiz quite like this? Just so you
look nervous. I've had a lot of quizzes quite like this. Really, Yes,

(01:21:35):
I did not prepare, which I've had before, and I
did not actually see the material, like I didn't watch
any of it. Okay, good night, didn't either. I only knew. Well,
we'll see. There's there's like two or three factoids I
happen to know about the league. And that's it. All right,
all right, here we go. First question, did young Wake

(01:21:58):
Kup kick a field all this weekend? I'm gonna go yes,
Young Way coup. Yeah, it's very authoritative. Yes, I mean, look,
he he was. He won the Charger's job last year,
didn't play in the NFL this year? Sounds Young Way.
If if Christian Hackenberg can start a quarterback. Young Way
Coup should be a kicker in this late Young Way
Cou did kick a field goal this weekend for the

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Orlando Apollos. Very nice, Doug Gottli, how bad first points
in a f history, Young wau Really the first points? Yeah,
first points. Finally found a field goal he can make exactly,
just not the pressure of winning games in the end.
Right in the preseason for the Chargers last year, he
was good. Well, that's how he won the job, and
then he lost it after two weeks. Remember when he
missed the field goal the first week and the Charges
let the cannon go off. They thought they made it, Like,

(01:22:44):
oh no, he didn't win, Jet Fanning, you're making fun
of my Chargers. Just great, and we figured out and
and look we had the perfect kicker. If they eliminate kickoffs,
yeah that is true. Yeah, the money Badger cannot get kickoffs.
That's the only thing you can do. Did a team
run the Philly Special this weekend? Oh that's it? Yes, yes, yes,

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yes they did. Jalen Marshall threw a touchdown to Garrett
Gilbert again Orlando Apollos. Uh Derek Gillart Gilbert, I believe
now he's former Texas quarterback, right, and he was one
of the guys that Mac Brown chose over Highsman Trophy
winning quarterbacks instead, he wanted those Highestman Trophy winning quarterbacks
to play defensive back, right. That's the uh he couldn't

(01:23:29):
get didn't get Andrew luck Um who went to Stanford,
and he didn't get Jameis Winston, he didn't get Johnny Menzel.
He he wanted Johnny Manziel to play defense back as
he did r G three, and Garrett Gilbert was his quarterback.
That's what happened to Texas football did. CBS sports is
official Twitter account tweet out an interception by the San
Antonio Commanders with the tagline the biggest interception in franchise history.

(01:23:54):
That is accurate. I'm gonna I'm gonna go yes in
I and T by the San Antonio Commanders. The biggest
interception and franchise history was first game I'm gonna go
yes yes. That is a factually true statement that absolutely happened.
So I'm three for three. You're doing without watching the games.
You're one of the two you watched, admitted watched two
point nine million. You watched it all right, Trent Richardson

(01:24:18):
ran for a hundred yards for the Birmingham Iron. I
know Trent Richardson. No he did not. That's false. He
did not run for a hundred yards. I saw his total,
and Trent Richardson scoring a touchdown does really strike at
the heart of Hey, this is a legitimate football, professional
football league. But no, he didn't rush for a hundred yards.
He did not. He ran for fifty six yards and

(01:24:39):
he was under three yards of carry. So you wonder
why Trent Richardson is not still in the NFL. There's
your answer right there in the a f His yards
per carry is still under three four. By the way,
you're pretty good. And I didn't see a snap. Did
Steve Spurrier wear an orange and blue polo to coach
Orlando this weekend? That Steve sp are you were an orange?

(01:25:01):
He had a He had a Waukee tucky. I saw
that when the highlights was really like they had a
walkie tucky. When he told one of the guys I
am telling to catch it this time. Uh, I wish
he would. The only thing worse than Alwaukee talking would
have been if he had one of those uh uh
cans like soup cans with a string where he was
talking or wall wall open open. I believe their color

(01:25:25):
was red. I'm gonna say their color is red. So
I'm gonna say no, he did not wear orange and blue.
Steve Spurrier did not wear an orange and blue polo.
You are perfect so far. I mean you had to
have watched you had to have I mean no, no
one knows this much. The headlight of him talking in
the microphone. One, coach, but what's your ty come back?

(01:25:49):
Can you tell some of the guys on defense don't
know their names? Set it's not a Wakie Tucket Breca one.
Not this here? They had ball coach all play look
there too, and then all this whole thing going on.
I like, I like to come back? Very nice. Uh.
Did Zach Stacy play in the a F this weekend?

(01:26:10):
I should know who Zack Stacey is. Zach Stacy, who
former running back running back for the Rams, had some
fantasy value a few years ago. Very short, a little
too deep in my fantasy football knowledge. I'm gonna go, yes,
Yes he did. Zack Stacy did play in the a
F this week there. Did Matt Asiata play in the

(01:26:33):
a F this weekend. I like a good aciata bagel. Um,
that's asiago. That's okay, same thing. Um, I'm gonna say,
yes he did. He did play in the A of
this week. You are perfect, Doug Golly, this is got
the answer to them. All Right, here's a tough one
for you. What's the first match if you google Sunday

(01:26:56):
Alliance American Football box scores? What comes up if you
put into Google Sunday Alliance American Football? Man, Wait, you
went with you went with the the what's it called
when you fill in the blank? Fill in the blank? Uh?
You went perfect. I gotta get true false before now
you go fill in the blank. I'm sorry to test
can be a little bit sciance football, Alliance football. The

(01:27:17):
first thing that came up, Uh, it's a moving company
Alliance moving Company. Now box score of the Super Bowl.
That was your first thing. But that was a tough one.
That's like an extra credit one. He's got me clearly
cheating on the test. And they may have thrown that
last answer just to throw off the teacher. Twitter and

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have five big time sporting event kicking things off right now,
we'll get to the latest with Magic Johnson the second.
But all the drama yesterday at Pebble Beach now carrying
over to today. Phil Mickelson in the lead has a
three stroke lead with a couple of holes. Left very
upset that at the end of the day yesterday there

(01:30:20):
was a couple of weather delays and and so play
went along and Paul Casey didn't want to continue to
play at the end of the day, felt it was
too dark out. He had a put waiting for him,
and he said, nope, I want to wait till the
next day. Phil Nicholson was not happy about it. So
I could finish seventeen, I could tee off on eighteen. No,
so they postponed play until today. Now for Casey, I

(01:30:41):
kind of get it because it's not about beating Phil Mickelson.
It's if he winds up tied for second, which he's
tied for second right now, that's a difference of a
hundred and fifty two thousand dollars in in purse money.
So he wanted to be able to have a good
frame of mind and feel confident going in it today.
It was late yesterday was probably was about six some
thing they played because they had a couple of delays,

(01:31:02):
had a hail delay where they tried to figure out
part of the greens. But for him, it's well, it's
FedEx points, it's you know, I want to finish in
second and you know, make an extra hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. So Phil was upset, but now they're just starting. Now.
Paul Casey just made his pot that he was standing
over when he wanted play to be called yesterday. So
now we have real live Phil Mickelson ISO camera work

(01:31:26):
at eleven o'clock East Coast time, eight a m. Pacific.
I I do think that we're kind of you're you're not,
but kind of bearing the lead here whereas the Phil
can win. Granted, the conditions are gonna be different at
the US Open, but the course is still the same,
and he obviously has a ton of confidence on this course.
Like we we've we've thought of this as the year
for Tiger, and you know, Phil hasn't shown the ability

(01:31:49):
often to compete, you know, on the third and fourth day.
But this might change that perspective a little bit in
winning this tournament because sometimes it's just but not about
if he can get out to the first couple of
days and hold on. It's not that you have to
continually play lights out for four days. Since the old
Bobby Jones golf, he says, you know, one good shot
makes up for two bad shots. If he has his

(01:32:11):
first two days are really good and his last two
days are okay, and he shoots par one under. That
could be enough to win. I mean that, you know,
you don't need to go three under, three under, three
under three under it you got you could, you could
be phenomenal day one and come and we've seen that
from Lefty before. He's come out and been Oh is
he seven under? I guess he's gonna fish this tournament
at eighteen under, but he finishes at ten or eleven under.
He could do that for the first two days, and

(01:32:32):
that could mind up being a big precursor. I mean,
how many times has he come close to the U
S Open and and not come through? So it's it's
fast anyway, watching watching a little golf, watching Kevin Durant
on TV, I think the double dribble that end up
helping the Warriors, uh win the game last night is
fast ending. And then and then what what Magic Johnson

(01:32:52):
had to say? Uh, before I believe the Lakers were
pummeled by the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Right, that's before
the Yeah, so there's a there's a lot to dig into.
You want to go to the magic first, Let's go
to magic. Let's go to magic first. Alright, So so
magic met with reporters remember he flew out from l
A to meet with the team. There's JaVale McGee. You know,

(01:33:14):
in terms of you know, how do you how do
you feel Magic standing kind of in front of you.
But Magic made this big thing of Hey, I'm gonna
go and talk to these guys and have an open,
you know, discussion back and forth about what went down,
how we and they respond by getting their asses kicked
by Joel and Joe. Embid was just unguardable yesterday. But
the seventy six was just too good on offense. The
Lakers are too bad on defense. But here was Magic

(01:33:36):
before the game talking about their dealings with the New
Orlean Newance Pelicans. We knew that basically at the end
of the day, what happened happened, and we knew that
when we first started. But hey, it is what it is.
I'm gonna say this again with making this about thinking
these guys babies, because that's what you're treating about their professionals,

(01:33:57):
all of them, and this is how this league works.
They know it, I know it. You can say that,
but I've never seen I've never seen what happened last
week happened. Uh in the NBA generally, g MS operates stealthily,

(01:34:18):
right that you don't you don't know something's going down,
to the whispers about it, and then it just happens.
And that's not what happened between the Pelicans and the Lakers. Know,
the Lakers wound up getting played and after the arrogance
they had that many many teams were upset about the Lakers.
With all you Lebron could just mentioned playing with Anthony Davis.

(01:34:40):
The story comes out. Hey, now Rich Paul is trying
to maneuver things, and now let's get Anthony Davis to
the Lakers. And the Lakers allowed their business to be
put out in front of everybody. They allowed everybody outside
of Lebron to be thrown in in trade talk. Everybody
was out there, but they were that's the problem. But
whether whether it was everybody or not, all the names
were out there and the Lakers couldn't control it. And

(01:35:03):
now they don't make the trade. And now you have
to figure out, all right, this is a team that
what Lebron wants is going to happen. Does Lebron want
me trade it? Does he want me what all the
misinformation stuff that's out there, nobody knows which way is up?
So now the Lakers have to figure out this season
after getting played by the Pelican. Now the Pelicans hurt
themselves in the in which we can get to but
the Lakers allowed themselves to be played. Now they're trying

(01:35:23):
to pick up the pieces because of that. I look,
I agree with all of that that they could not
control the narrative at all. You know that that whether
they were acting out of desperation or acting out of
arrogance or a little bit of both, they could not
control that. I'm telling from my friends inside the Lakers, like, look,
none of this came from us. We absolutely did not

(01:35:46):
offer anywhere near the package that was reported being offered.
And we they thought, and maybe again this is the
Lakers true arrogance is they thought most of the world
would see through that, like we're not giving Kuzma, Lonzo Ball,
Brandon Ingram, Like we think these guys are pretty good?
Are they are? Any of them individually? Anthony Davids like no,

(01:36:09):
but they're all in the rookie contracts and they're all
pretty good, pretty good players. But because they couldn't control it,
I think the media honestly got played in this one,
and that you know, all the sources, there were just
Pelicans people just going like, hey, guess what they offered
us now, and we're laughing at them. We'll see if
they're gonna offer us four first round picks, and and
Magic chose to operate under the the idea of like,

(01:36:30):
we're gonna be stealth and we're gonna make an offer
and be smart about it. And people know how to
hand up, people know what the truth is. But they didn't.
They couldn't control it, and it did kind of spin
out of control. And you know, I understand that Lebron.
You ask anybody, the Lakers are like, look, Lebron always
sits in the last seat. And the reason that there
were three seats in between Lebron and the rest of

(01:36:52):
the team is because they didn't have that many guys
dress that night, right, they didn't, and a couple of
guys win in the game. I mean, it's just a bit.
Picture was just a bad. It was bad. It was
just a bad. It was bad. And look like Rondo
would normally sit next to him in a suit, but
Rondo actually sat courtside next to the coaches because the
Pacers didn't sell those courtside seats they always sell. So

(01:37:14):
he sat down closer. Where's Lebron always sits in that
big kind of throne chair, you know, to help to
help his back. He always sits in there, sits in
the Phil Jackson chair. Literally always sits in that chair.
But but again, this is the Lakers. They they were
not They were reactive and not proactive in getting out
in front of it. Like they never came out and

(01:37:34):
said none of what's being reported is true or in
any ways accurate. They never came out at They should
have come out immediately after the Pacer game and go
Lebron always sits in that chair, and the three spaces
are because we we had made a trade we didn't,
you know, or because we didn't have all of our
guys dress because we had injuries, and this is how
it always works. And no, he doesn't get up for

(01:37:55):
every time out when it's in a blowout game. It's embarrassing.
That's just kind of the way we were ole Um.
But yeah, that the narrative became Lebronze disconnected and was
there some disconnect? I'm sure there was. Were the guys pissed,
I'm sure they were, But it's because magic that they
There's a famous line from The American President, you know

(01:38:15):
the movie Michael Douglas is michaelokas Michael President, right where
he says, in the absence of true leadership, um, we'll
listen to whoever yells the loudest. And that's really what
it became is the Pelicans were the only ones were,
you know, releasing these these rumors and these stories, and
we took the bait and they couldn't control it. And

(01:38:35):
now Magic's in there going like, hey, they're grown ups,
they can handle it. And clearly those guys have not
been able to handle it. No. And and really from
the Pelicans side of it, they wound up screwing themselves.
They're gonna wind up at the end of this screwing themselves.
It's you know, look, I I'm not a big economics guy.
I took economics in high school and I understood a
little bit of it, but I understand supplying the men
right and supply right now. Of elite NBA players before

(01:38:58):
the trade deadline was Anthony David That was it. I mean,
there a couple of guys, maybe, well, are the Wizard's
gonna move on? Maybe Bradley Beal would have been available.
Turns out he wasn't. But you know, Kyle Lowry being
Danglish Barrital, you jury just hates him. But you know, okay,
Anthony Davis is the guy. So Davis is out there.
Here are your offers that came in. You may not
like a lot of them, and Anthony Davis and a
vacuum is worth way more than than what's being out there.

(01:39:20):
But this is reality. These are the offers that were
out there. So they don't take the Lakers offer because
they want to stand up and say, we're not cow
towing to the Lakers. And you know, hey, we stood up,
small market. We're gonna wait and we're gonna do this
in the off season because the Celtics made us a
pinky square promise that they would negotiate with us in
the off season and we're gonna get forty five great
players from them. So now you get to the off
season and here's a bunch of teams at the same

(01:39:42):
teams that we're in on Anthony Davis. Now free agency
is here, and yeah, the Pelicans are sitting there with
Anthony Davis. But now Kevin Durance out there, Carrie Irving
is out there, Kemba Walker's out there, Clay Thompson is
out there, but Cousins is out there. You have a
lot of really high level, talented players out there that
T teams are gonna say, Okay, we're in on these guys.
We gotta we got a bit of an interest level

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on Kyrie. Kyrie wants to come to the Knicks. So
now the Knicks, who may have been a fit, they go, oh, well,
we're gonna get Kyrie and we're gonna get k D
and we're gonna still have the number one pick. Yeah, no,
we're not. We're not in on Anthony Davis. Well, okay,
let's go to the Celtics maybe or maybe then Kyries
at all, Kyrie says, I'm staying with Boston, and then okay,
well maybe now the Celtics are and is in on it.
They have so much change, and now these teams that

(01:40:26):
can go out and get a big player again, the
same ones that are on Anthony Davis are gonna say, well,
I can go get this elite player and just pay
them money. And I don't care because it's money. We're
just gonna pay him. I don't have to give anything
else up. But if You're not gonna hold Anthony Davis
ransom for me and I gotta pay and I have
to trade for well, I'm not gonna do that. So
you tell me how that that marketplace is going to
be even better for them in the off season. It's

(01:40:48):
it's it's it actually is a really interesting I do
actually have a degree from the Spears School of Business
in a pill State university. Is that a real thing?
Mark Spears has a school of business, and the Spears
School Business spears in front of my university. We just
want to make sure it's real. Um, And you know
there there there's the old belief in in business that

(01:41:12):
that that competition only kind of grows the market, right,
that that that if you if you look at the
true economics of it, yes there is supply and demand.
But the fact is that more players being out there
creating you know, more kind of liquidity or fluidity of
assets is a good thing because now the sudden, instead

(01:41:32):
of having the Lakers bid against themselves, you're having the
Lakers bid against the Knicks, but against the Clippers, but
against the Celtics, and that drives up the market. That's
that's that's the general belief, UM, uh, whereas you know,
it's like, what what Walmart's being able to do? The
walmartization of the marketplace, which is Walmart so big that

(01:41:54):
they're able to low ball all their suppliers and just
go like, hey, you want to be in Walmart? This
is what we hey and if not, we're onto the
next one who gives us the exact same product. And
it works for Walmart, it does, and so that would
be That would be where business people would disagree with you.
Where I will agree with you is bidding against yourselves.
You had the chance. I don't think you had the

(01:42:15):
home the herschel Walker package that was being proposed, But
I do think that the Lakers would have preferred to
get it done. Not just because they're not they don't
they're not sold they can get anybody, or that they
think the market will be better, but because they thought
they were gonna get Paul George. They legitimately thought that
was going to happen. They soured on the whole thing

(01:42:36):
on maybe Paul George the last three months, uh, the
last three weeks or of the regular season in the
postseason last year, but they thought that was happening, and
then they thought they were gonna get Kauai Leonard and
then that thing turned on them and both not not
not landing either leads them to think, we gotta get
this thing done sooner rather than later. And you had

(01:42:58):
you had the Lakers where you had what's the old
hand and relationship? Was that in Seinfeld right, we had
a hand in relationship they had they had the upper
hand in negotiation. And instead of as Magic said, and
here's where I will agree with Magic, instead of operating
good faith, sitting down and saying like, look, he don't
want to be here, he wants to be with you.

(01:43:18):
What's the most you'll be wanting to give us and
then asking for a little bit more, instead they played
a game link stories to the media and piste them
off and oh yeah, by the way, his his value
is probably not as great in the open market this offseason.
Twitter at how about a Fresco Doug at Gottlieb Show,
Jason Smith Doug Gottlieb in for Dan Patrick, I'm making
fun of Spear School of Business. No, well, no, that
was pretty good. I like that. I mean I wanted more.

(01:43:40):
I wanted want you in supply side economics, is that
what you're doing? I was looking for more technical terms.
You know, I want I want to apply side economics. Yeah,
that's that's pretty good. That's a good one. But just
words I don't even understand. I mean, that's what I wanted,
because that always sounds any word I don't understand makes
it seem like it's it's it's a lot. Apply side
economics is a macroeconomic theory arguing that the economic growth
could be most effective created by lowering taxes and decreasing regulation. Anyway, Yeah,

(01:44:04):
he used taxes right there. It's a big word Texas.
I think we're Texas, a big thing, like five letters.
Uh left. Lefty is on eighteen still with a three
stroke lead at Pebble Beach. Out the sun is outshining.
We're not gonna it's a beautiful day. But it's a joke, right,
Like he's got this hill. Micholson could play with a

(01:44:24):
blindfold and win this tournament, couldn't he? Uh well at
this point, yeah, sure, well I played playing Pebble Beaches.
Yeah he could play with the blindfold and win this tournament.
He's like, maybe, really I had to stay an extra day.
I didn't need to have a degree from the spears
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(01:45:48):
actually do a show from a plane, then land to
a show from the airport he lands in. Then you
got a game, then you have the show again, and
then you have the show from a plane again. I
mean that's a very busy next four to forty eight
hours for you. Yea, yeah, but I mean it was fun.

(01:46:08):
Eventually you will be able to do a show on Actually,
I also have three hours of of coaching basketball this
evening as well. Oh you do alright, alright, so that
well it's even busier, will you be Now wait a minute,
but you're leaving tonight. You're doing what Louisville duke, right, okay,
so but you're coaching basketball or are you actually gonna
be coaching basketball via skype? That would be a good idea,

(01:46:29):
but no, you need we I'm actually there in person.
We have yeah, we have youth workouts for three hours.
So we'll get after it. Because I figured the two
people that would do that for the first people able
to do that to coach via skype would either be
you or Phil Jackson. Yeah, yeah, you Max Headroom actually
was the first to do it. He was actually he
coaches his son, Maxi's youth basketball tea. Do you do

(01:46:51):
you do you remember Max head Yeah yeah Mac Max
Headroom Yeah yeah see Actually, well okay, I like that.
And pretty soon you will be able to do a
show from a plane. I think we can. You'll be
doing speak for yourself for something. You can do stuff
from your phone where you can actually plug into an
I sd N line from your phone. There's actually a
way to do it. It's pretty amazing. You like calling in.
I think you'll be able to new technology is incredible.

(01:47:13):
You have to worry just about like will drop out,
You're gonna go are suddenly you can't can see you?
Or or get below ten thousand feet? Yes, yeah that
belown thousand feet. That's that's a that's a problem. Well
I only got a couple of minutes, like my fifteen
thousand did We did ten shows from Israel uh a
summer and a half ago, a year and a half ago.
In the summer. Yeah, it sounded great. Remember they played
promos I go where is dug E's And he's like

(01:47:35):
a wow, it sounds really good. And if you saw
where we were in Israel, were like in some TV
radio studio, Like you know, everything in Israel looks completely random,
you know, it was. It was pretty pretty interesting. Wow.
Fox Sports Radio were an afternoon driving Fox Sports Radio Israel.
That's nighttime, so it's nights three or six Eastern is
It was ten to one am. Oh okay, alright, okay,

(01:47:58):
all right. So you were doing late in getting up early,
and I'm coaching all day, you know, I'm doing stuff
all day and then get done, have dinner. You know,
guys go out to have a beer and we'd go,
we go over there and do the show. It's pretty cool.
You have way more energy than I do, way more energy.
Are you? Are you in eight hours of sleep or else? Guy? Yeah?
I need it? Can you send on an email? I

(01:48:19):
got the email as to what you want to talk
about very early yesterday. Yeah. Well, I because I well,
and it's tough for me because I went went to
bed last night at like nine, and because normally I
go to bed like I get done the show gets
unt eleven o'clock at night, I go home unwindful, but
I go to sleep twelve thirty one. If I watched
Little TV time o'clock. Yeah, yeah, nine, ten o'clock. Yeah,

(01:48:40):
I don't. I don't know. You're my wife needs eight
hours of sleep? I need. It's amazing. I I require
very little in my life, but I know what it's
like if I have five, It's like I'm I'm gonna
be just sitting on the couch and falling asleep randomly
throughout the whole day. I need it much else I
can do it. I could figure other stuff out. Sleep
I kind of need. You apparently don't need it, which
is great. I have plenty time to sleep. When I die,

(01:49:01):
I will sleep very very well. That's a lot for
a long time, Yes, for a long time. Yes, dirt
nap uh Kevin Durant after last night's game. The drama
continues for Katie and what he's doing on the court
and off the court. On the court, things were phenomenal
the Warriors. I watched him last night fall behind six
to two UH in the first quarter, come from behind,

(01:49:25):
beat the heat on eighteen for k D. He went
for thirty nine, six rebounds, four assists, and didn't melt
down against or towards the media after the game. But
still this has been the common refrain for him has
been playing really well on the court, as you alluded
to earlier, and then completely showing he has issue and
letting the media affect him and what is said about

(01:49:47):
him what, whether it's by people who are journalists or
what people are saying on Twitter or social media. I
think he's a little bit too affected by social media.
And it said there's a weird kind of trap to
social media where you feel like you want to be
not only relevant social media, you if you're Kevin Durant,
you want to feel like you're you're you're tangible, you're touchable,

(01:50:09):
that people can know you. On the other hand, the
more you let people in, the more you have no
control over who you let in. And then you start
you don't know what's real and what's not, and you
read stories and you freak out and and it's it's
a hard It's it's a universe that parallels are social media,
but it is not the same universe. And I think

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a lot of his negative reactions are towards social media,
and of course that's what got him in trouble with
the burner accounts, which people I think rightfully hold against
him in what was probably an honest and forthright discussion
he wanted to have, and maybe a little bit of
a scolding of the media. Going back to last week.
What I would tell him is, I tell him a couple.

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Number one, I would say, dude, if you really have
this much trouble, don't go to New York. I mean,
I'm getting my Kevin Durant nick stuff printed, you know,
like they did in the in the in the season tickets.
And oh, by the way, the Knicks put out a
thing to their season ticket holders for next year. It's
a picture of Mitchell Robinson being guarded by Kevin Durant
from a game. Then the Knicks took it down realizing, okay,
they kind of saw through our ruse. But I would
tell them, dude, stay away from New York because you

(01:51:13):
will be eaten alive by the New York media. I mean,
this is this is the junior varsity compared to what
you're gonna get with with New York. But I would
say this, I'd say, dude, you have to realize when
you do something creative for a living, you have to
be okay with people telling you you suck. And that
falls into many a wide variety of things you suck.

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Could be simply you suck. You suck could be about you,
and here is about your family, and this is about
your friends. It can take on many forms, but you
have to be okay with that. You have to be
okay with that because that's simply what's going to happen
if you don't like what's being said on social media.
Don't read your acts, you know, takeing stuff out, don't
read your acts. Here's what uh at M lethal M

(01:51:57):
lethal spelled with two ease, got leave show. Being the
de facto fill in for DP show recently made my
morning listening routine into an absolute nightmare. Right, you know,
burn or whatever your name is at M lethal that
that sucks to be you. But again, like if you
don't want to if you don't want to take it's

(01:52:19):
not easy to fill in for Dan Patrick. Like Dan
has been doing this a long time. He's got right hair.
But more than anything, he's got credibility. He's got a
different way of doing it. He's got the Dan eds.
You're trying the radio, you know what you're gonna hear
every every morning. You and I we have our own
radio shows, we have our own careers. We don't have
to do we do it because it's awesome, awesome platform,
awesome way to talk about sports and do a show

(01:52:40):
together as opposed that you were doing it with Mike
on a daily basis. Right, Um, But the point is
kind of the same, like, look, if you're gonna do
this show, you know you're gonna have you know, five, ten, fifteen,
maybe a hundred guys tweet at you going like, hey
you suck, Like, okay, cool, thanks, I still have the gig,
They still have me. I'm still You're still here all week.
I'm here Thursday and Friday as well. You don't have

(01:53:02):
to like it, but that's kind of the way that
that's the way it goes. And it's the same thing
that's on the macro, on the micro level to KD
like you you want to be as big as Lebron. Okay,
these are the things you have to put up with
with you know, Lebron. And look, if you didn't want
us to talk about where you're gonna go. And I
do think that he has a point I'll get to
in a second, but you could have signed you know,
you could say I'm not opting out this player option,

(01:53:23):
I'm not opting out staying here. I want to stay
here as long as they have me. You don't, you
leave ambiguity, and you're gonna cause people to ask questions.
I guess my one issue with the media would be, UM,
is what really is the point to reporting what people
inside the organization are thinking now about Kevin Durant, Because

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if you did the exact same poll his last year
in Oklahoma City, they always have said like he ain't
go anywhere, Like it's not go anywhere. He's got a
place downtown, He's got a restaurant downtown. He loves it
here like he and Russ it may seem like it
doesn't work, but it does kind of work together, like
he ain't going anywhere, and then he decided I am

(01:54:07):
going somewhere. Um, not only does he not know what
he's going to do, but there's no way to know
that even if he knows what he's gonna do, he's
not gonna change his mind. And be very normal to
change your mind in terms of moving from a championship
caliber team with guys that you know, with guys that
you've won with, and placing you won two Envy Finals
MVPs to a place in which how many guys have

(01:54:29):
tried to crimeb that Knicks Mountain right, you could name them,
could name them right, not succeeded. No, you know, John McCloud,
Mark Jackson, Uh, all the way to Larry Brown, Phil Jackson,
pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy, Pat Ewing Um, don't forget
Marie Stodomeyer. Like, look, those guys got to the NBA finals,
like they almost got there and they're still revered because

(01:54:51):
of it. Charles Oakley, Right, but and and if you
go since that generation went away, they've been nowhere close.
But it's not for lack of trying. They've tried. They
tried Phil, and they tried Larry. There's no two better
names in terms of guys have won championships and guys
have been credibility and guys that are either New Yorker
or a guy who won a title as a player
with the Knicks, and neither could get it done in

(01:55:12):
both got run out of town. There's a ton of
history that supports your point of do you really want
the New York thing. On the other hand, we both
know having lived in New York, if you're the guy
I mean ticker tape parade, they still talk about red Holzman.
They still talk Look you and never won. They still
talk about it. But Oakley, all these guys are legends,

(01:55:33):
and they got to the finals. Did you win? No,
but we got there. How many times did you fail? Oh?
The entire nineties except for one year when Michael Jordan
wasn't playing. We got there and then we got there
as an eight seed. They still love Latrell Sprewell in
New York because he got there and and they didn't win.
They still love lj in New York because they got
there and they didn't win. There's that allure that's there
for him and and on the court would be awesome,

(01:55:55):
but off the court, he would do that first press
conference after two in a row, Kevin, do you feel
the um, uh, you're not playing up to park that
right now? You've just lost two in a row. Well,
we just lost to What are you talking about? You
guys are in last place. You were all in too. Yeah,
but uh, do you think the Knicks expected more for
your money? I do think that there's also there's a
certain amount of confidence, maybe even arrogance, which is he

(01:56:16):
thinks if their plan is him in Kemba or he
and Kyrie and trade for Anthony Davis, You're like, look,
I ain't going there but myself, and we get done
it done. It doesn't matter if we're in New York
or in tim buck two. We're gonna win. There's a
confidence level there. You know, he's a he's still a
walking bucket wherever he goes um. But but the point

(01:56:37):
is more, Look, he he doesn't know where he's gonna
go or it's all speculation, and it's just gonna be
speculation to when he decides. So at what point? At
what point does the enough is enough? At what point
do we do we satisfy her appetite for not truly knowing,
but thinking right now he could be gone. Well that's

(01:56:59):
the I agree the part of the sources familiar with
the club's thinking, thanks, Kevin Durant's gonna stay. But when
stories go on, you get guys who cover the knicks
with blue check marks and say, hey, I got it
on authority. I'm going okay, Well, you know what, that's
a question the press conference, and there's many ways you
can answer it. I mean, you don't, you don't have
to answer those questions. It's it's Kevin Durant feels like
this is you No, you don't get paid, you don't

(01:57:20):
get paid to tweet. You know, you can easily blow
these off. You can even say, well, I don't know
how much he does, but he can easily say no, no,
truth to that, I don't. I don't. Next question, and
he could shut stuff down, But what did he do?
Went on on Friday? That doesn't shut it down here,
but it at least shuts it down for you go
through that instead of all season, You go through it
for a couple of weeks and then okay, we've moved

(01:57:42):
on to other things, and and here's what's going because
they're not gonna move on to other things, but you have.
But that's also a part of of what's called the
what is it the acceptable um? The price of fame? Yeah, no, no, no, no,
what go what goes along with being a star basketball
player getting paid that kind of money. That's part of
the occupational hazards. Absolutely fair and that and I do

(01:58:05):
think to make a point, I agree. I honestly think
that a lot of these guys don't understand that the media,
while we're not there to simply write fluff stories about them,
like you benefit from the media. You like what do
you guys, that's why I just want to talk about basketball?
Is like, yeah, but that's not how it works. You
don't get to choose what you want to talk about.

(01:58:27):
You don't. You don't. You don't get to choose what
we want to write about. You know, we want to
write about what we find interesting. And to Ethan Strauss's defense,
who is apparently writing a book about the Warriors, it
is interesting that to bookmark the first week in February,
at this point in time, there's generally a wild, widely
held belief inside that organization from at least reputable people,

(01:58:48):
that he's gone, that he's going to the Knicks again.
That doesn't mean he can't change, but at this point
that's the widely help help feeling, and him writing about
that when people find that far more interesting than a
how the Warriors covering the pick and roll with DeMarcus
Cousins is not the decision of a Kevin Durance. Sorry, dude,
not your call. Look, I also think there's one other
part to this which I've run into in college basketball.

(01:59:13):
Throughout the sixteen years i've done this, there have been
places that I've been where you're like, wow, you can
be a little negative, Like, No, I just think I'm honest, right,
and that all stories are told, if they're truthfully told,
can have some sort of negativity, right, Um, even like
the Kurt Warner story, greatest story ever, but he went
through five years of being an awful quarterback. Right, He's

(01:59:34):
the polar opposites. And Kurt's a friend, like he invites
playing his pickup game in his house when him in
temped like he's a great dude. But even he'd admit
like because of injury and playing outdoors and you know,
trying to hold the fort together for you like Manning,
Like there's five years where he's bad, but in the
middle of his career, in the middle of his career.
So it's it's hard to tell the Kurt Warner story
and not tell the rise, the fall, the rise again, Right,

(01:59:59):
But in college sports, a lot of times that's glossed over. Right,
A lot of times that's that's glossed over. And I
think that one of the one of the issues with
basketball players specifically is they've been treated with such kid
gloves for so long, And honestly, during his years in
Oklahoma City he was treated with kid gloves. He thinks

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the media is simply there to suck up to him,
and that anytime they come at him, you know, with
the Mr Unreliable when he stunk against Memphis in a
playoff series and they didn't have Russell Westbrook, that that
that that's the exception, not the norm. And it's because
of everything about who we are as or most of
it is about either you know, was it nature or nurture, right,

(02:00:45):
how we were raised and kind of who we are
and who he is as a product of a you know,
single parent home, you would think, you know, growing up
in a tough neighborhood, like he's a little bit tougher.
But I'm sure that he's a little bit of a
mama boy, which is a good thing. And he's been raised.
You know, he went away, he went to Texas where
they've never been that good, and he put up a

(02:01:06):
bunch of points and they didn't win much. But he's
still a great athlete. And I like Kevin Durant, I'm
I'm like the only guy going like, hey, you know,
he might actually be the best player in the league.
But it's not without pointing out, damn, he really does
not take criticism well. He really seems to be trying
to figure out who he is at a late point
in life, and some of that is based upon how

(02:01:27):
we have raised him at Texas and Oklahoma City. Well
not that's for every college basketball player, because look, I
can come on the show. I have no problem coming
on the show at night. Let's just say Syracuse plays,
and you know Elijah Hughes has a bad game, I go, boy,
Elijah Hughs was just terrible tonight. He was awful, three
for sixteen, couldn't hit a three. That's why we lost.
Now we're not going to the tournament, all this kind

(02:01:47):
of stuff until we beat Duke again and then but
you don't hear that if the game is but you know,
Elijah really struggled with his shot instead of this guy
was terrible. It was he struggled with his shot or
he he needs, you know, hopefully next game is better. Boy,
he's really having a difficult time. That's why when you
see Beheim say stuff like oh, I don't care who plays.
You know, Frank Scott, Frank Howard has two more games
to figure it out. And then we're moving in other

(02:02:08):
directions like whoa This is how a guy normally talks
in the pro. But he's talking about his players in college.
But you know that's actually how all college coaches talk
when usually when the microphone is gon on Beheim is
just at the point he's at the spuryor zone where
he's still accomplishing. Yeah, he doesn't care. But but that's
Jenny when when you see it and you see the
games broadcast on TV, you don't get that, you know,
get oh what all another miss boy? He's got to

(02:02:30):
get it going at some point when in the NBA,
it's boy this, they're gotta pull him out of the game.
This is where Charles Barkley says he's got to have
a seat on the on the bench and he's he's
got to not set up again until he goes to
get me a coffee or something like that. But you
don't get that from the players. So when they get
into the league, they're more Well, I've not really been criticized,
I mean coaches on coaches on my ass, but I've
not really been criticized. Now now I'm getting it, and
not on social media. All this stuff is everywhere. But

(02:02:52):
by now, Kevin Durant's gotta figure that out. I mean,
that's that's not like he's coming out. He he doesn't
have a resume. This is a guy that's when you
know finals, he's thos m VPS and he could have
another one after this. I understand, but I can. I'll
take Kevin Durant's side from this perspective. He's like, look,
I want an m v P in Oklahoma City, and
I wanted a shot at Lebron. I got two shots

(02:03:12):
Lebron and I beat him both times, and I was
the finals m v P. And I was better in
the second half of more of the games that he
was better than the second half of Like what why?
Why he? Why can't I get the respect that I deserve.
It's just a search for respect, and um, I don't
know if it's in your insecurity. I don't know if
it's It's said. Lebron is widely. Lebron is widely viewed

(02:03:36):
as one of the greatest players. Lebron is also a
much bigger star superstar globally than Kevin Durant, and that's
what goes into a lot of it. He's got and
Kevin Duran's gotta understand that you could be the better place,
but Lebron star size is going to dwarf you just
because of that, right, And but again to k D's
point is, hey, we got to an NBA finals in
Oklahoma City a little bit too early on. We lost

(02:03:57):
lebron Um, and like, look he was in the East,
like the idea, like we're just dismissing the fact that
it was easy in the East. It was. It's the
same thing as the Patriots, right, Like why the fact
that the Patriots have gotten the playoffs in one ten
games all these years, Like, let's be honest, a lot
of it said that they're in the A f C
East that has really really helped them. There's not been

(02:04:18):
one other reputable quarterback at any of those other three
teams during isn't like who's the best other quarterback in
the last fifteen years? Probably the only honestly, the only
one because they didn't win the they won the division
was chatting chat Pennington, who played on two different of
the of those teams, but had no arm great leader,
but no arm Um. And and it's the same with

(02:04:39):
the like we we we make it out like he
gets credit for getting to the finals when I'm sure
Kevin rants like, look if my Ocloma City teams were
in the in the East, we would have got in
the finals too. So now he goes to a team
that he knows he's gonna match up with Lebron. He does.
He beats him twice. He's the finals MVP. He hits
the dagger shot in the first and the second NBA Finals.
He's like, people still don't can said er me right there?

(02:05:01):
Like what what do you want me to do? People
still say Steph Curry when Steph wasn't as good in
the finals and we gotta hide step on defense, Like
what do I gotta do? So I do? I understand
your side is not wrong, but there is some you
have to understand where he comes from in that. I
think he thinks he's so accomplished he should be viewed
in that light, and for whatever reason, he's not twitter

(02:05:23):
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You are never too drunk to fish, You are never
too old to play golf. Don't believe me. Phil Nicholson,
the oldest winner of of the of Pedal Beach, shot
a sixty five on its final day. The final has

(02:06:06):
just come through. Phil Micholson is your champion. After having
the big weather and UH time delay last night got
a little too dark for Paul, Casey wanted to stop,
and for him it turned out to be the right decision.
He finishes alone in second place and so he doesn't
have to split that extra hundred and fifty two grand
by finishing in a tie, and he gets the extra
FedEx Cup points. So even though that decision piste off

(02:06:27):
Lefty a little bit, it worked out much better for
Casey in the long run, and Phil end up shooting
a sixty five. Yeah, you know, sixty five on the
final day is pretty amazing. Where's Paul Casey shot a
seventy shot at seventy one uh and and managed to
save face uh coming into the coming into the final
round as the leader is opposed to Phil who shot
a seventy in his third round. So one of the

(02:06:48):
big highlights this weekend came from basketball. But it was
a college basketball play from a guy who's widely expected
to be the number one overall pick in this year's
NBA draft. Maybe you heard it, maybe you saw it.
Maybe you saw a guy fly. He tries leave it
to Zion Hammerson, Holy rocks the river and the pain
Zion Williamson. That was a big dunk from Zion Williamson.

(02:07:10):
He had the big block that is gaining all the
big momentum. You saw him, You've seen the highlight of
him leaping into the air to block a three. And look,
every time every weekend, I feel like there's something from
Zion Williamson that is something incredibly athletic that we haven't
seen and we marvel this guy. I mean, obviously it's
men against boys, the way he's playing, how good he is.

(02:07:30):
But I ask you this dog, Look, you cover the
game a lot, and you go through all of it.
You know, you did U c. L A's game, You
got Louis, you got a Duke game coming up, you
got Duke Louisville coming up in a in a day.
Zion Williamson is so freakishly athletic guy weighs two five pounds,
he'd be the second heaviest guy in the NBA. Now,
I think if he went in, is he really this
good or is he just so tremendously freakishly athletic and

(02:07:52):
he makes all these plays, he runs up and down
on the break and he gets in and does all
these things that he gets a little overvalued or is
he really really to be this good when you get
to the next level. Uh, the the let mean, let
me kind of go kind of down through it. He
is not Duke's best player, right, and he might not
even be Duke's best prospect. Like you could easily make

(02:08:15):
the argument that that r. J. Barrett, you know, can
can bring more to the table having some kind of
James Harden to his game. There's like a legit discussion.
Coming into the year. I would have told you I
thought R. J. Barrett was giving the number one pick.
And now Cam Reddish just starting to hit jump shots
and Cam Reddish is big enough to get him off
and you know, to be a Paul George type, you know,

(02:08:36):
maybe not that big or you know or you know,
maybe some he's like an elite jump shooter and he's
big and has a high release. I mean, he's gonna
be a top five draft pick. So I think I
think Zion is gonna go number one because of a
couple of things. One, it's not just the freakish athleticism,
but he also plays hard. And what I like best

(02:08:57):
about him is he's not their best play here. He's
not not running a ton of plays for him, but
he's still able to have a tremendous impact on the
game at both ends. And let's be honest, when he
gets to the NBA, no matter how freakishly athletic he is,
he's not going to he's not skilled enough to be
the guy to turn the I don't know if he'll
ever be a guy that you're gonna turn the team

(02:09:17):
over to and he's going to create shots himself or
for others. But the way the NBA game has changed,
where Draymond Green can play center on a championship team
when it matters, you know for three of the last
four years that that's changed with Zion Williamson can be
because now he doesn't have to become a small forward.
He can be a power forward, he can be a
small ball center. At six ft he's really six ft

(02:09:39):
five and bear bear feet right is a big question. Well,
because you're two eighty five. When you're that all, I mean,
you're just gonna get bigger. Well maybe maybe, I mean
Draymond got smaller. I just don't know where the way
it goes because it seems to be mostly, if not
all muscle, right, but it's not the jumping gets the
landing rights. It's landing with that amount of force for

(02:10:01):
a hundred games is a lot. But yeah, like look
this whole talk of well you trade the number, want
to pick for Anthony Davis, Like, I don't know if
I do, I don't know exactly what he'll be, like
a better, more athletic Rodney Rodgers. Is he Charles Barkley.
But there's a lot that I like. He likes to pass,

(02:10:21):
plays hard, plays both ends. He's a better shooter than
I thought, although there's still massive room for improvement. Uh,
he has pretty good basketball, like you and understanding, like, yeah,
he's he's pretty damn good. And he's accepting a role
where he's not the primary go to guy and excelling
in it. I don't know what there's not to like
about him except two eight five. If he if he
gets to be a better Draymond keeps the weight under that,

(02:10:44):
that would be that would be acceptable ceiling for you.
Is a better Draymon, better offensive game? I just mean
somewhere in the Barkley Draymond, a bigger Barkley, more, a
little more. People forget how athletic Barkley was when he
came out. He was a freak athlete. So Barkley d Amon. Yeah,
like Draymond defensively, Barkley offensively, Yeah, I would. I would

(02:11:05):
sign up for that. Plus great personality and the jaw
dropping plays. Yeah, I would sign up for that. Twitter
on how about Afrasca dug At Gottli Where is r J. Barrett?
The ceiling is is is hardened? The problem is that
what happens if r J. Barrett is not a go
to guy because he's not maybe a good enough shooter.
That's a hard thing. Where a zion has shown he
doesn't have to be the best player to have a

(02:11:25):
ton of impact on the game. Jason Smith Gottlie been
for Dan and the Dan That's back tomorrow. Ryan Hollands.
You're ditching me tomorrow, I am, I'll be in Louisville. Well,
you get to do louis Zion on Thursday. That sounds awesome.
Are you doing your show today? Yes? Uh no, I
could have said no. This is Fox Sports Radio. Fox

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