HOUR 1- Colts announce Daniel Jones as QB1

Doug sums up the latest in baseball news before weighing in on the Colts' decision to make Daniel Jones as QB1. Doug gives his take on Micah Parsons. Doug welcomes former Chargers and Raiders GM Tom Telesco onto the show to talk about the Colts, Browns and all of the headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em". 

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it's been over for a while, but now it's officially over.

(00:46):
We'll get to that. That means as a starting quarterback
has been named for the Indiana Indianapolis Colts went to
Cubs Brewers yesterday the day of the Day night Doublehead
of the Night was rained out. They're playing the second
game now, which is a makeup game. Making it up now.

(01:09):
We got great baseball. Dodgers sweeped the Padres over the
weekend and now have three with the Rockies before then
going down to San Diego, down to Local and taking
on the Padres yet again, which is weird though, because
they sweep the Padres and then lose to the Rockies.

(01:29):
Gotta be frustrating from my boy Jas two, especially, you know,
losing the game when you have a run lead going
into the seventh inning. Grant, it's Colorado. That's a really
hard pace to pitch, but not against this Rocky team.
And who was it Robleski That's who blew the game
for the Dodgers yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, I mean that's the pitcher that gave up I guess,
the game deciding hit. But I mean, we have a
right fielder who can't play right field on a major
league level. It's such an urgency that there was a
reported meeting between Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts and Mookie
Betts coming off of a game where two Hernandez dropped

(02:09):
a ball. He's been misplaying balls all year long. He
takes horrible angles, and he needs to be in left
field or on the bench or at DH. But we've
already talked about the DH problem. When you have the
best player to ever play baseball as your DH, you
can't give your catcher a day off and you can't
put a teo Hernandez, who is a natural designated hitter

(02:32):
anywhere about left field.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
A natural designated hitter is such a nice way of
saying Edgar Martinez, Yeah, a natural I love the natural
designated hitter. So he just stinks in the field. Yeah,
or natural designated whatever you ever you want to have,
you want to air it byer. I had a great
Chicago day. Yes, it was like the perfect Chicago day.

(02:55):
I mean, could not have been more spectacular in terms
of weather. Got to the stadium at like eleven thirty,
had field passes, watched the game, went up and saw
my boy boog Shambi during I think it was the
fifth inning, which is when the only ending the Brewers
had trouble, uh where Freddy Peralta couldn't throw the ball

(03:16):
across the across the plate, But they ended up putting
it on the Cubs late and getting a win. Cubs
got a lot of booze at home. They went out
and had dinner at RPM's Seafood in the city, and
all of a sudden there's a gigantic line of thunderstorms
and so the nightcap got rained out and now back
in Green Bay. But a spectacular Chicago day.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
We tried to guess when you left the game. I said,
top nine.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I was with I was with
four donors, and you know, it was one of those
like when it was like four to nothing, it was like, well,
one more, that's probably it was fine. I was like,
well one more, it's probably it, you know, but we
had dinner pre planned. If we didn't have dinner pre
plan and two of the guys they took off, we'd
had dinner pre planned, yeah, I would have. It probably

(04:03):
would have been bottom seven because it was over right
as soon as the seventh inning was like's over. It's
a rap because then he you know, you want to
get out of Chicago. It would have been like three thirty,
and then you may may have been getting out of
Milwaukee before the rush hour traffic driving back instead of
stayed for Top nine. Top nine. Some I didn't know.

(04:25):
And we'll get to the news and we'll get to
the cold story in a second. So my boy boog,
John Shomby, he's the voice of the Cubs. So where
he broadcasts from is Harry Carey's booth. Have you ever
been up there? Dan, No, I'm going to tell you
that the coolest part is not just the view of Wrigley,

(04:48):
it's you can see the lake from there. I had
no idea, did you know. No, no, again, I'm just clueless.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I just yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
You go up there, and usually you go up and
obviously it's a little high. Everyone is different. That one
is almost stuck, almost catbird see, kind of old school
style whatever. But you have this unbelievable view of Wrigley,
you know, and you have, you know, all the buildings
behind it, some of which are now blocked off because
the new jumbo tron in right field and left field.

(05:18):
But now you can see kind of in all of
its glory everything you're looking out at it Wrigly. But
then if you look beyond the buildings UK you can see.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
The lake, not necessarily surprising since Chicago is on the lake,
but you don't see it from the normal camera views
that you would you would get. All right, let's get too.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Far, let's get to the story of the day. I
don't think this is a huge surprise to people, because
Anthony Richardson had struggle. Plus Anthony Richardson is always hurt,
and then answe Richardson has had just lots of little things,
you know, last year when he took himself out. I
mean that was that was odd. But now Danny Dimes
comes in and has a chance to resurrect his career,

(05:58):
and Daniel Jones comes over from the New Giants and
he earns the starting job with the Indianapolis Colts. Now
what does that mean? Well, there's there's a variety of
things that it means. I think our guy Dan Dockich,
who joins the show occasionally, who does radio in Indianapolis,
I do think he nailed this one thing where Anthony

(06:19):
Richardson was talking about how man he really wants to
dive in and know everything about the playbook. And I
saw one tweet from Dockitch which was like, wait, you
want to know the playbook? Now, what were you doing
while you were hurt the past two years? I saw
innthe Richardson play last year against Green Bay and he
just didn't look like an NFL quarterback. Now. I don't

(06:42):
profess to be a quarterback whisper, a quarterback guru, or
a town evaluator for the Nation Football League, but when
you go and see in person, it's a lot like
do you guys remember the discussion we had a couple
of years ago about Tua and Justin Herbert, and there
were some on television on Fox who were saying, like, yeah,

(07:05):
that Justin Herbert's a phony two is the better quarterback.
And look, you don't have to throw one hundred miles
an hour to be a great pitcher. You don't have
to have a laser arm. Anthony Richard has one to
be a great NFL quarterback. But my point was, if
you went to the Dolphins Chargers game, which I think

(07:27):
was a Sunday night game, which I did, and if
you walked away thinking that Tua was anywhere in the
stratosphere of Justin Herbert as a quarterback, you had to
walk in with such an anti Herbert pro to a bias.
It's silly because it just it's it's like a different sport.
It's much like if you know what a golfer looks

(07:49):
like who you know, like a guy who's a long
drive champion. You know they hit the ball, or your
buddy who hits the ball of mile like man, he's
really talented, and then you him against a pro, and
a pro is just different. The touch is different, the
reader the greens is different, the approach is different. They
hit the ball, not just the right distance, but to

(08:10):
the very right area of the fairway so they have
the right approach. And then when they get it on
the green, it's not just get on the green like
you and me, we just Hey, if I can get
on the green, it's great. They want to be below
the hole. There's a specific reason they hit the ball
a specific way with a specific spin. That's the difference
in Anthony Richardson and NFL quarterbacks. It's not that he

(08:30):
can't throw, it's not that he can't move. He can
really move. They haven't been able to use him as
a runner enough because he's gotten hurt every year he's
been there and they want to protect him. But to
protect him, you have to not run him. To not
run him, that emphasizes the part of his game which
is the part that needs to improve the most, which
is his touch in reading of the defense, which he

(08:51):
doesn't have. I'm also going to be fascinated by Daniel
Jones because what was the store sory of last year
quarterbacks in the NFL. I would make the argument that
last year's story was how many of these resurrection projects

(09:11):
ended up benefiting the quarterback and the new team at
their home at their new home, because you get essentially
a veteran like Daniel Jones has not been in the
league for a long time, but he's been in it
long enough right to have a contract extension. So you're
in the league six years and you're a veteran, and

(09:33):
because the Giants had moved on, you get him at
a fraction at the regular price. So you get backup
money on a guy who started a lot of games,
and he's super motivated to not just impress, but also
do what you want because he's been in a league
long enough to know. Okay, I went with Shane Stikeen. Shane,

(09:54):
if I just do what Shane Stikeen wants, I got
a great shot of winning the job, of winning games,
and of being on this roster moving forward. So last
season we had Baker Mayfield, we had Sam Darnold. Obviously

(10:15):
it didn't work out nearly as much in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I feel like Geno Smith is part of that. Even
though it wasn't just last year, I still felt he
was part of the conversation.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Sure, great call, great call, and it's it's we talked
about it in the off season. Would it be a
trend where you're trying to get a guy who had
kind of worn out his welcome or they moved on
from him. But he did have a lot of experience,
and you get him at a at a fraction of
the of the normal rate for an experienced quarterback of

(10:46):
that elk. In Daniel jones last five starts last season,
excuse me, in his last five seasons, he started fifty
seven starts, forty six tds, thirty five interceptions, eighty three
point four passer ratings. That great. Here's Colt's head coach
Shane Steiken talking about the decision to make Daniel Jones

(11:08):
QB one.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Daniel Jones would be our starting quarterback this season. You know,
I don't want to have a quick lease on that.
I feel confident in his abilities. I think he's a
veteran guy that's been around the block and seeing a
few things, and seeing how he interacts with his teammates
and how they've taken to him and how he's taken
to them. I think he's done a really nice job,
and I think the guys.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Are excited for his opportunity.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Behind the scenes, stuff that people don't see with Daniel
Jones is his work ethic, the way he connects with
his teammates, the operational stuff, like I said at the
start of this thing, in the huddle, the communication, the checks,
all that, and I think we got a good group
around him overall our football team offensively, the weapons we
have that I feel that he can be successful in it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And look stike in when he called plays with the
Chargers were very good, but he called plays with the
with the Eagles they went to the Super Bowl, and
you know when he had Joe Flacco, they were pretty
good as well. So I'm sure he's one of these
guys a lot like Kyle Shanahan. Just run my plays,
connect with our teammates. And by the way, if you

(12:07):
don't make a lot of money, we can build a
pretty good roster around you. But everything you heard from
Shane Stychen is everything we've talked about. These guys is
they've been humbled, okay by losing their previous job. They
still have a confidence, but they know how to connect
with teammates and because they're not making a gargantuan some money,
they're able to be kind of just one of the guys.

(12:32):
So you do wonder if the Colts are able to
do what the Buccaneers, or what the Seahawks and now
Raiders have done with a Gino Smith.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
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Speaker 1 (12:52):
Let's steal a little broadcasting talk, by the way, next hour,
next hour, we're going to play for you a conversation
I had with Mark Shapiro. Mark is the president and
COO of TKO. That's one of the companies that they
own and run the UFC now as well as WWE,

(13:16):
and they just linked a They just signed a seven years,
seven point seven billion dollar deal with Paramountain CBS seven years,
seven point seven billion dollars. He used to be the
head of programming at ESPN when I was there. There's
a lot of reasons to have guests on one, I
think it's an amazing story where UFC is compared to

(13:38):
where it was. Also, they're on the Tiffany Network on CBS,
like that's a big like CBS handles and treats themselves
a little differently. But also how this deal kind of
came together, I thought, And he's a dynamic dude, so
I thought you'd appreciate that. That's top of the hour.
Speaking of broadcasting, I love Troy Aikman two point zero.

(14:04):
At Fox, he was good, he was always solid, and
he was kind of superstar Troy Aikman, Right, he was
Dallas Cowboys super Bowl champion, three time Super Bowl champion,
Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman. He was good, he
was informed, he was solid, but he wasn't as strongly opinionated,
I believe as he has been at ESPN. Now. Some

(14:27):
of that is again we talk about different networks. Different
networks push you for different types of commentary. You know,
when I was at CBS, it was a lot more about, hey,
tell great stories. I don't say be a cheerleader, but
sort of be a cheerleader for the game. Whereas ESPN
because they felt like, if you're watching an ESPN college

(14:49):
basketball game on ESPN two, you're a real hardcore fan.
You've got to feed those hardcore fans. It's a little
bit more inside the belt Way commentary. Fox is always
in a little bit more big namey and now what
he's at ESPN and ABC and covering Monday night football.
I actually think he and Joe are better I just

(15:11):
I do. I use that because Trougman was on Monday
Night Football last night and he said this about the
Cowboys and what they look like without Michael Parsons.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Without Michael Parsons, I just don't think they're gonna be
able to slow anybody down. I mean, he's a total
game wrecker and he's proven that, and he's certainly worth
every penny that he's ultimately going to get paid. The
longer it goes, the more money he's gonna make, So
I wouldn't stress too much ifows him.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm not stressed, But I also I do think there's
a limit to what you can make. I think the
deal's probably close to already done. You know, they had
the Jerry I had a deal and then the agent
stepped in. You know, they'll probably add something with non
guaranteed money to make it look even better. But the
counter argument to Troy's argument is, yes, he's a game wrecker,

(15:59):
Yes it's a great football player, but what if the
Cowboys aren't good with him? All? Right? This was the uh?
Was it? Khalil mac Who is the raider that he's
now with the Chargers? It's the raider he got traded
to the Bears. I keep thinking Khalil Mack, but it's

(16:21):
not right. It's I'm go ahead, Buyer, I'm sorry, yeah,
say It'skhlil Mac. God why, I don't even know why?
So Khalil Mack. Remember the Raiders traded him for two
first round draft picks. Sorry, guys to the You guys
are sitting there nod in your head and you're like, no,
you got it right? You ever? I don't know. Maybe
I'm just questioning myself today.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Sorry, it's Google, Doug. You know, you think you have
the right answer, and you're like, I still have to
check it.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I was looking at by and Byer gave me the nod,
and if Buyer gives me the nod on the YouTube
YouTube channel, then I'm like, okay, Well Byer knows way
more about this than I do, so yeah, okay, go ahead.
I'm sorry, Byr. His MIC's not on there we go.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Here, we go. I don't know if I'm being told
something in my ear or if it's on the air.
So when a that's what was happening. So when Sam
was saying Khalil Mack, I thought he was telling it
to you, but he was saying it in my ear.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh, I'm watching it like I'm I'm watching him like
Khalil Mack. And then you're like you look at me
like yeah, And then I was like, well, something in
my brain was some of my brain was telling me
what wasn't was. Anyway, the question becomes, how much better
would if the Cowboys can't stop anybody of or slow

(17:38):
any He even said slow anybody down? Can they slow
anybody to stop anybody? With Khalil With Michael Parsons, Tom
tellusco joins us. He's a former general manager of the
Chargers who signed Khalil Mack, brought him back or not?
Did you wait, did you bring Khalil back back? Or
was that after you? My timeline is screwed up.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
We traded uh with the Bears for Khalil Mack, right.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
But when the Bears traded for Khalil Mack from the Raiders,
the Raiders thought was, yeah, we can resign him to
exorbitate some but we're not any good with him, so
let's go get two first round draft picks instead instead. Right,
So that's my question for the Cowboys. I don't think
they're trading h. I think this deal is already done.
But there is a part of you which wonders, hey,

(18:22):
you know, if we get two, we're not any good anyway.
Why not get too first round draft picks instead of
putting a bunch of money into one guy, which is
not going to change our trajectory all that much.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Well, this is the thing. I mean, two first round
draft picks really aren't enough because if you just look
at the law of averages, those two first round picks,
you'll definitely hit on one of the two. You hopefully hit
on two, but it says basically you're not going to
hit on both and need if to do. Are you
going to hit on one of those that's a premium
player at a premium position, that's an all Pro player,

(18:52):
The odds aren't with you, so to me, if you
did trade them, which they're not going to, but it
have to be picks, plus like premium players, it's hard
to get value for a player like him. He just
can't get enough. It can't just be draft picks because
draft picks are essentially lottery tickets, whereas he is a
proven all Pro young player. So yeah, I don't and

(19:13):
I don't see a trade happening at it Anyways.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
What's the what's the usual timeline that most of these things,
you feel like, all right, it's really going to get done,
and about this window so he has enough time to
be ready for week one of the season, Well.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
Then he needs to get it done right now. This
one is it's just confusing to me because it just
it sounds like I'm just like you now, Doug. So
I'm on the outside looking in. But if they're not talking,
I don't understand why they're not talking that Usually you're
you're working on the contract, you're negotiating. It sounds like
they're not so that I don't know what's going on there.
But you know, you've got three weeks to go before

(19:49):
opening day. You know, he doesn't need all of the preseason,
but he certainly needs some work, some high intensity work
to get ready for it for the opening game, which
is really important against the Eagles. Now, rushing the pastor
you can get out there and you can do that,
but to play a lot of snaps especially it's probably
gonna be warm. He needs to be in right now.
But just sounds like it's just been so quiet. There's

(20:10):
just nothing going on with that situation right now. I'm
not exactly sure why. Maybe we'll find out soon.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
What is your reaction to Daniel Jones being named the
starter in Indy?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Yeah, to me, I mean neither quarterback really went out
and won the job, at least in the games they
did not. Maybe practice looked a little bit different, But
my thinking is Shamesdiken just looked at it and between
the two players, he went with the player with more
experience both as a college quarterback and a pro quarterback.
He has a lot of starts under his belt, and

(20:44):
he went with the more comfortable option for right now
with Daniel Jones, and we'll see what he can do.
But in these situations, I wouldn't be surprised if both
guys play at some point of the year. Daniel Jones
had a little bit of an injury history. Hopefully it
doesn't show up, either do the performance or injury. I
think it's a chance that still Richardson plays at some point,

(21:04):
but I can see the decision today on. You know,
they want the more consistent quarterback and has of right now,
Dana's more consistent right now than than Richardson. Even though
Richard they can make some eye popping throws and eye
popping plays, but the up and down, the accuracy, just
the overall in consistency level. This isn't quite there yet.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Last year, I don't know if you want to call
it a trend, but it was sort of trendy last
year for these guys getting a second shot, you know,
at starting And I mean obviously Sam Donald had a
spectacular year in with with with the Minnesota Vikings. Baker

(21:44):
has found a home with with with Tampa. You know,
Kirk Cousins obviously was a guy who he was more
high end talent back when he was with Minnesota, but
early on before it fell apart, the returns were good
in Atlanta. I bring it up because last year you
were kind of in this situation with Raiders right where

(22:04):
you don't have a you don't have a guy, ain't
O'Connell like, you don't have a guy on the roster.
You hadn't drafted a guy. Instead you went and drafted
the best tight end in football. What was your thoughts,
thought process behind trying to find the right fit, the
right guy to get you through a year, to get
you to this draft or freegency period where you can

(22:26):
then maybe potentially get a starting quarterback.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
Yeah, you're essentially looking for a bridge quarterback, someone that
you know they can come in play, consist in football,
hopefully win some games for you. But you also known
the back of your mind that you know that's not
your long term franchise quarterback and you do not have
to find out in the draft at some point. But
which is why last year, even during the season, I

(22:49):
tried to try to convince Daniel Jones to come to
the Raiders and you know, just to give us another
option down the stretch. But Daniel Andization, they actually give
them credit, they made it really good decision. Even though
it was a practice squad with Minnesota goes, there are
size in the practice squad, rehabilitates a little bit, learns
of the new offense. Then is a free agent and

(23:10):
he picked a team and the Colts that has a
chance to go to and really compete for the job.
He went in there competing for the job. And one
but you're just looking for smart playing, consistent play to
get you through. I mean, if you don't have the guy.
And this year about a third of the teams are
going into the season with a new quarterback, so you
know everybody's whether it's our drafted player or a free agent,

(23:32):
But I think Daniel Jones fits that category of it
can hopefully can bring it suple consistency. But the other
quarterbacks you mentioned a lot of times, it's just right place,
right time, maybe the right coordinator, maybe the right head coach,
maybe have right talent around them on offense, to the
offensive line, the weapons that they have. And then when
some of these quarterbacks as a failed one, like Anthony Richardson,

(23:53):
he'll always get another chance. He'll just can get one
more chance to the Colts. I'm sure if that doesn't
work out, somebody else will give you a chance because
he does have talent. He's just still learning the professional
game and everything that goes into being an NFL quarterback,
and most of it is Monday through Saturday with all
the preparation that goes into getting ready to play that game.
And I think right now they're just more comfortable with

(24:13):
the Dandon Jones Stug.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice
of Tom Telesco, former general manager of both the Chargers
and then for last year the Las Vegas Raiders. He
joins us first weekly visit here in the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio The Browns. Uh First, what
h what'd you think of how Dylan Gabriel played.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
I thought he played well. I thought he he made
quick decisions, got the ball out of his hands. Yeah,
I thought he played very well. So you know, in
Schador played well. So you've got two young quarterbacks that
you know they're going to be on their roster. But
I think we all knew, you know, even with the
four quarterbacks that had it really wasn't a four man
competition for the starting job. I think we all realized

(25:00):
it was going to be Joe Flacco, and then we
didn't get a chance really see Canny Pickett playing much.
But we kind of know what he is, but we
need to see these two young quarterbacks play. And Dylan is,
for not the biggest guy in the world. He has
good arm strength. The ball really comes out of his
hand with some pace and velocity, and he made quick decisions.

(25:21):
It was accurate with the football. I didn't think that
the I n T threw wasn't necessarily his fall the
two guys at Saint Mary and the players starting to
pull his hands back thinking it was not going to
go to him, which happens, but I thought he did
it fine. So we'll probably see a lot of those
two guys this week, I assume. I hope. I'd love
to see these two guys play more because they're gonna

(25:41):
have to set back end of their depth chart. If
something happens with Joe Flack will either injury or just performance.
They have to know who the next guy in is
that Gabriel is the shooter Anders as a picket. You know, well,
they keep four going in the season, and they may
at least for a couple of weeks. I don't think
they can do that the whole season, but they may
go with four to start off take it from there.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Can you keep four quarterbacks?

Speaker 8 (26:03):
You know you can if you're healthy. I think you can. Initially,
You're just gonna have to go short in some areas
that you really don't want to go short in. I
think as the season goes on, as injuries hit, I
just I don't see a way you could really keep
four on your roster. But I'm sure they can probably
juggle it for the first couple of weeks if.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
They had to.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
When they want to, you're just going to have to
be completely healthy, because you know, the margins are top.
You know, you're fifty three man roster, you can only
dress forty eight. So they have a couple of players
in your roster that you know there's no way they
can contribute on game day because they're not going to
play and they don't play special teams. Obviously, it's going
to be difficult, but I think Andrew smart you can
probably pull it off for a little bit, but in

(26:41):
the end they'll have to make a decision at some point,
probably get the three.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Okay. I know you don't watch practice tape right and
you're not in on meetings, so I just trying to
be fair. But if it was you, what would you
do with four quarterbacks? What would you do?

Speaker 8 (27:00):
I'd probably try and trade Picket. You know, at least
he has a body of work. He's a former first
round pick, really high character player, and I wouldn't want
to give up on Gabriel or Story yet. So I
think in the end, if there's a team out there
that needs a backup, maybe you can move Picket for something.
I know it's not going to be a lot, probably
be a late day three pick. At least get something

(27:20):
in return, and then you've got you know, an older
veteran quarterback with Flacco. Hopefully he can hold the ship
down this year. And if he can't, you've got two
young players waiting in the wings to get some time.
So that would probably be my thought.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well you did, then what was the purpose of signing Picket.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, don't forget that they signed in before the draft,
so no, I know, yeah, it's a completely it's a
completely new quarterback room because they've run in Flack as well.
Flack it was with the Colts last year, so they
signed Joe. You just never know how the draft is
going to play out, so it probably made sense, and
they made the trade for pick. I think they made
the trade for Pickets, so you have somebody in the
house with a little bit of background and and they

(28:00):
probably thought was well, draft a quarterback, which they did,
and then just happened to be Gabriel and then they're
in the fifth round and Shoulder are still there. So
you know, Andrew took Andrew Barry took a you know,
really talented player late in the draft. So now you
got four. It's better than having none, but yeah, it's
it's going to be hard to keep all four for

(28:21):
the whole year. It's almost impossible.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Uh okay, let let's time to let's go our guest here,
Doug Ottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Trey Hendrickson is still
sitting out. They're listening to offers. The Bengals usually do
a very good job of keeping their own. But he's
a little bit older and wants a lot of money.
What do you do if you're the Bengals.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
Yeah, this is this has gone on a little bit
longer than I thought it would. And you know, they
they listened last spring. I mean they they looked at
the trade route last spring and just really nothing materialized
and I don't think anything more would materialize now and
something hugely changed with somebody else, but it doesn't sound
like that's going to go anywhere. I think he's either
playing for the Bengals or nobody. But at some point,

(29:07):
you know, the player has to realize that, you know,
you're looking for an extension. You're not a free agent.
You know, you're not an unrestricted free agent where you
can dictate all the terms that you want, you know,
the years and the average per year and the total
and the guaranteed money. So you know, at some point,
at some point, you have to get to work because
this is this is where you're playing and you're in

(29:28):
a contract, so hopefully they get to that.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Again this you know that the Bengals do it the
right way. They don't negotiate in public. Really don't know
what their offers are. If it's just one year guaranteed money,
that I agree with the player in the agent that
he's going to have to have some guarantee the year
two a good amount of guarantees I was thinking, and
I wouldn't have a problem with that. I mean, I
know he's an older player, but pass rushers play well
later into their career and I'm not as concerned about

(29:54):
him having a huge drop off later on, certainly not
in the first two years. And you know, he's a
really good rusher to me, he's not in that Nick Bosa, Miles,
Garrett Watt, Crosby, he's not in that area. But he's
the next group down. So you know, if the hang
up guaranteed money, then that has to be figured out
a year two. But again, you know it's time to play,

(30:16):
like we got three weeks to go before opening day.
Obviously they need them, but you also can't you have
to do the right contract with the player too, and
with a lot of these players. Look, if you want
the market price and everything absolutely you want in a contract,
then play out the season and become a freegment at
the end of the year. That's one option you have.
Then you are a true free agent. He's send anywhere
you want and get the exact deal that you want.

(30:37):
But you have to get the freeency first, which would
be come in, play the season and go from there.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Tommy, really really quickly, you said, the Bengals do it
the right way. The Bengals are a team that I
think the national narrative is they're cheap and they don't
do it the right way. What do they do that
you would you would say is the right way?

Speaker 8 (30:55):
Well, what I meant and that that statement was we
haven't heard a lot publicly about what they're offering, negotiating
contract that stuff. You just there's no sense doing that publicly,
So they've kind of kept that under wrap, sure, which
you know, for me, for me and you, it's not
fun because I want to know exactly what they're offering.
But they're doing that the right way and they've resigned
their own where they can.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
So you know, I know they're the Bengals and they
take a bad rap, but look, they do things a
little bit differently sometimes, but I like what they're doing here.
It's just at this point, both sides got to get
together and figure this out and get it going.

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Speaker 8 (31:35):
Right, thanks Doug. Take care.

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Speaker 5 (32:07):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Hello, Doug.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Hello, The game today is rank him.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
You saw a little eager list his favorite singer as
Bob Seeger and his favorite athlete is Walter Payton.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
I love that dad's making him do research.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Was it the Little League World Chairs from nineteen eighty four?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Seriously? Like Dad or Grandpa's been quite an influence on
this kid's life. But all right, today we're ranking stuff. Doug,
you were at Wrigley yesterday. I don't know if you've
ever been to Williamsport. I'd actually like to check it
out once, just to see what the whole deal is
about happened there? But Doug, rank your top three ballparks.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
In Major League Baseball? Huh?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I just said ballparks.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah. When I think ballparks, I think major League Baseball sports.
And I've been to Bright which is Oklahoma. Staateress is amazing.
I'm gonna do major League Uh. I mean yesterday Wrigley
was perfection. I think Dodger Stadium, Wrigley, Fenway, Fenway.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, in what order? I liked him in that spot,
I really did.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'm gonna go Dodger Stadium one. I'm a I'm a
big Dodger Stadium guy. I do love the Neighborhood Ballpark,
don't get me wrong, But I'll do Dodger Stadium one
because I also think they've added some a lot of
things to Dodger Stadium throughout the years and modernized it
some and it still has still feels like basically the
same place. And they do the same with with Wriggly

(34:00):
and with with n Way. The moving the bullpen to
where you can't see it and Wriggly is a big change.
I like, you remember used to grow up. You grew
up watching those guys get loose in the pen and
it was just so different. Now you can't see it.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
That is different, all right, Doug rank your favorite nineteen
nineties Dallas Cowboys players. It is not only on the
heel of your heels of your Troy Aikman take from earlier,
but also that Netflix documentary that has dropped.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I haven't seen it good.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I haven't seen it either. I think it just came out.
I think overnight.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
It's all the rage. It's all the rage. It's everywhere online.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
And because I have this weird thing, I have this
fomo thing, I have to watch it, just like this
movie Weapons. A couple weeks ago, I was on vacation.
You're like, why would you go see a movie on vacation?
Because I kept seeing everyone talking about this thing, weapons, weapons, weapons,
so I had to go see it for myself. I
can't help myself.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Jason sent me four dms about weapons on TikTok. I
didn't open one of them because I didn't want my
algorithm to become weapons so everywhere.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Yeah, Jason sent me a d M about Weapons.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Was it good?

Speaker 9 (35:13):
Was one of the most unique movies I've ever seen?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Okay unique? I wasn't a good. That wasn't good, but uh,
what was the question? Again?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Was my favorite? Nineteen nineties Dallas Cowboys playing Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm gonna go with oh Man, what was a Flozell
the Motel Adams Oa? Oh, he just blocked out the
sun at three, Troy at two, and then Moose.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
All right, Doug, rank your top three Colts quarterbacks of
all time?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I mean do I have to? I have to say
Uniteds even though I've never seen him play.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Hey, if a little leaguer could say Walter Payton, you
can say Johnny Johnny.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I'll go Johnny you three?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well, I mean I'm like, never saw Johnny United as plasure.
I'm like, what am I really talking to? He was
charger at the end? Was it wasn't it didn't didn't
Matt Hasselback start like, I mean, he was like forty
like won a game. I just I love Matt. I'll

(36:33):
do Matt houssel Back too, and then manning.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
One Andrew Luck on this.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh shoot, but I forget sorry my bad changing Andrew
Luck too. I knew I was forgetting Jim. Andrew Luck
was awesome. And and by the way, if you look
online like I defended Andrew Luck's honor, it's how good
he was. Uh to uh Nick Wright my first start working.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
At fin.

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